#other-games
shadow tartan
austere lance
eternal kettle
I'm trying to decide whether to get Squadrons, or if it not worth it since they aren't planning to add to it which means it'll probably just be a beta for their next Battlefront
wet warren
Idk what they've shown already looks pretty neat
shadow tartan
dry copper
I like Tom Hardy
As a person. Good guy.
Tom has a very considered view of interviews. He treats them like conversations and seems to really appreciate when people he's talking to as well. He can tell right away when someone's there as their job and there as a fan.
As a general fan and not a superfan, I find that refreshing
You get a really amusing interview from someone who can look at the interviewer and ask "why" without being or sounding obnoxious
winter yew
I dont regret looking in here. Pretty space.
humble trout
What game is this?
charred badge
universim?
cinder vessel
Space Engine, knowing Starnomaly
austere lance
I hate myself and got the Dishonored 2 achievement where you take out the Clockwork Mansion owner without letting him know you're there, lol
dry copper
@wet warren How accurately does that engine simulate astrophysics?
wet warren
@dry copper Like orbits, star types/placements and how planets are affected by that?
dry copper
More than that. That, but also including thermodynamics, quantum mechanics. It would be really cool if I could create a planet, effectively identifying the characteristics necessary to facilitate the natural development of life.
I have never used one of those simulators, but I always see people on youtube using them to basically just blow shit up
cinder vessel
i don't think space engine goes in that direction
that sounds more like universim, to a degree, minus the life stuff
er, not universim...Uhh
wet warren
Space Engine currently isn't capable of creating life. Though a planet can be identified as having life based off of scientifically accurate factors
cinder vessel
Universe Sandbox, that's what I meant
dry copper
Imagine being able to design a strategic methodology to terraform an alien world to support life, using a video game....hah, that would be awesome.
wet warren
That would be amazing
wet warren
But yeah the parts that are meant to be accurate are the scale, stars affecting anything orbiting it based off of placement/type/etc, and how the orbits would behave
wet warren
Oh dang that's crazy
dry copper
The future of space exploration isn't necessarily as dark as I imagined, even if we have to wait a century to return to space due to space debris. The development of simulation technology could very well expedite everything from environmental planning, to solving the debris issue and designing global mechanisms that allow countries to combat climate change taking into consideration everything from social issues to even socio-anarchy.
Gaming isn't a game anymore.
Gaming is life.
Also those pictures were pretty.
👍
winter yew
👍 👍 👍
daring spear
dry copper
I just had the WEIRDEST sensation
winter yew
Bum tingles
dry copper
If you've ever used a VR headset or watched a 3D movie, you know the sensation you get when you observe a 3D image. Now imagine that same sensation with 2D...that isn't even trying to be 3D....I got the same 3D sensation without the 3D information, like my brain was in some sort of crazy state of fantasy
daring spear
Weird
dry copper
It felt so surreal.
daring spear
Sounds like it would honestly
Cutrently listening to the song I posted on repeat cuz I can't sleep
Seeing if it can help clear my mind
Discord doesn't but if I can get my mind off what's bothering me I'll be good
dry copper
Do you want to talk about it?
daring spear
Stressing over all the stuff that needs to be done prior to an appraisal on the house later in the month
Personally I dont have a ton to do but my mind is going a mile a minute thinking of little things that could make a huge difference
dry copper
Have you sat down and written it down on paper? I find writing a list when I have a lot to do and think about, helps me keep perspective. I wrote a poem about it years ago. Weathering the storm of never knowing.
daring spear
Yeah, it's all written out
It's mostly the smallest of things like whether or not I cleaned specific wall corners or stuff like that
dry copper
Are you concerned about things you can't do that are going to impact the appraisal more?
daring spear
Oddly enough, no. It would make more sense to worry about that rather than whether I dusted a light fixture but... I dunno, the mind isn't the most logical thing
dry copper
As a home owner who has had two homes appraised, professionally, I can attest to some things the appraisers look at here. Not sure if the issues are universal.
It depends on who the appraiser is for also
If it's for a bank, it's not the same than if its for someone considering a purchase
daring spear
Actually that isn't quite true
I am concerned with things that I can't fix
Like, there's a giant hole in the back yard against the house. I'm positive that would make a difference since it's a giant hole in the ground against the foundation
But dirt is surprisingly annoying to get
dry copper
How big is the giant hole?
daring spear
Also theres the part where the appraiser has no experience with it and is a former realtor
So she's focused on how modern the interior looks
It's pretty big
dry copper
It might be worth taking dirt from somewhere else away from the foundation just to fill the hole. Holes near the foundation are a big issue. A hole in the middle of the yard is annoying and inconvenient.
A hole on the foundation compromises the entire structure
err near the foundation
Water seepage and all
daring spear
There isn't anywhere aroumd the house to get enough dirt to fill it ahhah
dry copper
Sounds like you need to take a trip to the beach. Dig about two feet down until you hit clay and start collecting dirt :P....You want clay, not sand.
daring spear
I wonder if I have a picture still of the spot the foundation itself is messed up...
I should add that it isn't technically my house
We're staying with s0ul's parents currently
dry copper
Other issues they look at...How old is the roof, are the windows sealed. Is the glass double pane, are the pipes copper, is the wiring up to code, any signs of bug infestation in the wood...mold in the basement or concrete, leaks in the attic
daring spear
Can't find a pic of the hole
The foundation shifted on them when it was set. So that's...
I think we've got the majority of that list covered at least
dry copper
A shifting foundation is bad. Did it crack?
daring spear
It has an interesting fissure in it
It supposedly hasn't caused problems... It's been here for like 20 years. I dunno. Long term stuff could still happen
dry copper
Was it water sealed after the shift?
daring spear
That's most definitely counting against us
I think so? I haven't asked about that honestly
dry copper
If you look at the foundation, it will look like a black layer on it.
Like someone painted it black
Typical sealant is a tar derivative
Or professionals now a days will actually use a layer of thermal sealant over a foundation
dry copper
How deep would you guess the hole is?
daring spear
The ground hole? Uh... Probably like three feet if I were to guess
Not small at all
As much as I appreciate the help, I really do need to try to focus on something else
dry copper
If the appraisal is for a loan from the bank, I wouldn't worry about it.
daring spear
It's for refinancing
dry copper
Is it an older home with equity?
I mean...I ask because you could easily make the argument that a part of your refinancing is upgrades.
A bank isn't going to look at refinancing as anything but an investment in you.
Don't worry about it.
daring spear
Part of it is upgrades
I don't know that much about the house itself
It was built like 20 years ago I think, other than that I'm clueless haha
daring spear
Oh wow
Yeah, S0ul's parents built this house when he was little
His dad wants to use this opportunity to build a garage in the spot he had approved for it back then
then there won't be a car in the basement any more
dry copper
Bank is going to look at the roof, check the foundation for cracks, ask questions about any damages like storms or flooding, ask how old the house is, check the basement (if there is one) for any signs of mold...and a 20 year old house prob has newer up to code wiring and pipes...So that's a huge bonus
My home still had the infrastructure from tube electrical in the joists
daring spear
Oh damn
dry copper
Wasn't connected to anything,b ut still
If your biggest problem is a hole in the ground near the foundation, I wouldn't worry about it
daring spear
Alright, cool
dry copper
If you are worried about it at all, buy some currigated steel...or find some, and put it up against the house over the hole. If the appraiser asks, tell em you removed a tree root and are in the process of fixing it
daring spear
Interesting trick. I like that
dry copper
Is the ground at the base of the house sloping away from the foundation everywhere else?
daring spear
I wanna say yes
dry copper
Where I'm at it's a building code requirement so rain doesn't collect at the foundation
daring spear
I honestly haven't paid a lot of attention to it aside from the hole, since it's hard to miss
dry copper
If you don't get big rain puddles against the house, you're good
Obviously the hole gets rain
daring spear
Oh. Yeah we're good in that regard
Well of course
dry copper
Thats why you put something over it just to suggest it's a "newer" issue
Not flat over it...Sloped
daring spear
Yeah
dry copper
So run off goes away from house
So your hole problem really shouldn't create too much of an issue for refinancing. The bank doesn't want your house. They just wanna assess its value in case you can't pay and your fixing problems like tree roots against the foundation is actually a huge plus for you
The bank would look at that as you being invested in improvements
daring spear
Interesting
All I know about the process here is that they take pictures and ask questions
And that the lady doing it sounds like a bitch but that isn't really part of the process lol
daring spear
Right
dry copper
The garage might not be a good idea to mention tho
Do not mention that
Garage increases property taxes
daring spear
I'm not the one talking to her
dry copper
Oh
daring spear
Which is actually a big part of my tress since it isn't my house or my call, and I just exist
Stress
dry copper
If someone mentions adding a secondary structure to the property, the bank might want to reassess after that's done
daring spear
Hmmm
I don't think it'll be mentioned, that seems like something they'd know about the thing
daring spear
I was told how much this one cost but I forgot
I just remember that they want to not have to pay it again
dry copper
Personally, I think the refinancing will be fine. Paying down the mortage means the house cost went down over the years but the house value went up...and refinancing is based on value
My house in 7 years more than doubled in value
and as I mentioned it's almost a century old
You can probably get a general idea on the value of your property just looking at the sales of properties in the neighborhood
daring spear
That makes sense
dry copper
Obviously the property sales are going to be above value by a significant amount, but it's a way of determining a ball park figure
daring spear
I haven't been here long enough for anything to be sold around it hah
dry copper
Most real estate is sold a little above property value
Oh that's good news, too
Fewer house sales mean the property values in the neighborhood are more stable
Property taxes will be lower
daring spear
Oh nixe
Nice
Hmm
A house nearby is for sale. That isnt the same as it being sold yet though
I'm actually not sure how much counts as the neighborhood... The town is petty small haha
So I could have just not seen sales happen
dry copper
My bank refinances my mortage over the phone lol
daring spear
Nice
dry copper
Do you know how long its going to be before refinancing? Have you checked for the interest rates?
Interest rates are great rn
I mean...At least here.
Real estate interest rates are low in large part because banks are investing in home ownership, keeping the markets strong
daring spear
I haven't
I would have if I was in charge of anything though
I've been told it's a great time for refinancing though, with the marker rstes being lower
Market
dry copper
Lower interest rates mean cheaper mortage, mean lower monthly costs, mean faster principal payments.
daring spear
I'm gonna try to remember all of this for when I do actually have my own house to manage
Haha
dry copper
I got my home refinanced at 2.3%...It was a fukin BOON. Two months later the rates rose a full % point
daring spear
I'm not sure why stress is worse when I'm not directly involved. I'm just helping fix stuff up some
dry copper
I think you'll be surprised at how little she'll appear to give a fuck 😛
daring spear
I shouldn't be this worried about it regardlesd under the circumstances
daring spear
...i just pictured a literal stack of papers with a realtor face... My god
dry copper
She's not a realtor 😛
daring spear
She used to be
dry copper
She probably doesn't even have a license anymore lol.
I mean...she's working for a bank
Realtors get paid a fucktonne
daring spear
I'm just picturing the generic media realtor look I mean
dry copper
My brother is a realtor.
daring spear
Oh nice
dry copper
He gets paid upto 4% on a property sale.
So, you use him and sell a house for 100k, he gets $4000 for that one deal.
daring spear
Not bad at all
dry copper
Yeah. He uses his real estate sales to float his primary business.
daring spear
Smart
dry copper
He owns a business that hires hair stylists, manicurists pedi wtf ever those are called...It's a whole weird fucking girly experience.
daring spear
Lol
Cool though
dry copper
Ends up doing a lot of celebrities make up and hair etc
I considered getting into cutting hair, but I hate people so....
Instead I got into accounting
daring spear
Those are very different things
dry copper
Yes. Yes they are. Now I'm studying to work for a job that manages billing for provincial health insurance
daring spear
welp
dry copper
Right now I'm supposed to be studying brain damage...lol
I have a psychology test to do tomorrow.
daring spear
Even if I was interested in studying that line of work, theres also the little MS things that would get in the way like my mind and hamds doing completely different things
"Why is this number 5067 off what it should be"
"I have no idea, I thought I put the other number and it looked right"
dry copper
What other number, though?
daring spear
dry copper
Could be worse. You could have auditory aphasia.
daring spear
True
dry copper
Crazy shit. People can hear normally but they don't process the words.
At all
Like all words sound like a foreign language
If it's something they got after learning the language, they have to communicate with text
daring spear
That does happen occasionally to me
Or I hear it completely wrong and respond weird
dry copper
Voices don't sound like words. Like that mirror situation in Control
daring spear
Ahh
dry copper
but instead of the words being backwards...they just don't sound like words
daring spear
I get the occasional not being able to understand words because the person talking sounds like they're talking through a mattress
If nerves could like. not be in charge of literally everything that would be great
dry copper
Do you take Ocrevus for MS?
daring spear
I do
dry copper
Does it work?
daring spear
It does work. It probably doesnt work for all kinds but it has pretty high success with RRMS
dry copper
Do you have problems sleeping a lot?
One of the side effects of poor sleep is a decreased efficacy in gileal cell function and they are responsible for myelin sheath production and cell repair in the brain.
daring spear
Off and on
It isn't a constant issue but Ibe had sleeping problems off and on for as long as I can remember
Before Ocrevus. The medication hasn't had any impact on it as far as I'm aware
It could be from the MS, from anxiety, or possibly a factor I'm not thinking of. But not the medication
dry copper
I think there's going to be a cure for MS soon.
daring spear
They did figure out a way to temporarily reverse it, so that's a huge step in the right direction
Or. Reverse the damages and symptoms caused by it
It requires a complete reset on the immune system
Which makes sense, I think...
dry copper
Epigenetics is a growing field of research. It's going to completely revolutionize that kind of science.
Just finished reading a short essay on epigenetics in MS on NCBI
daring spear
There's always newer and better medications lately. It's amazing hiw far we've come in the last ten years with it
I helped with their need to test medications for pediatric safety. Probably the only positive about being diagnosed as a kid
dry copper
Trying to remember the name of the gene research responsible for epigenetics explosive growth
daring spear
I was the second youngest in the US .-.
dry copper
Has some sort of fancy name
daring spear
Maybe we should jump to off-topic. The previous conversation ended
winter yew
Gonna continue doom 2016 in a few minutes
Need to download spyro again for spyro 3 platinum. But no space left because of warzone lol
dry copper
daring spear
I'm so confused
crimson kelp
That is awesome.
shadow tartan
winter yew
bronze wind
Haha woman dumb 😎
thorn dawn
So edgy
winter yew
Can vouch for that at least.
thorn dawn
How about we post the memes in #401847751249362945
winter yew
My turn
Some crazy new metal song I found earlier this morning
Woke my ass right up
winter yew
Ayyy
Century Media signs some damn good bands
They’ve been reliable for good metal for decades
winter yew
I’m not too keen on Black Metal style vocals
winter yew
Well it’s mostly that guttural puking sound I can’t take lol
winter yew
About a minute and a half in to that Omens track he has some cool vocals though
Yes Bloodywood kicks ass
winter yew
That song from Bloodywood was apparently intended for use in Beyond Good And Evil 2 but that didn’t end up happening
Wait why the sheep
silver sparrow
you beat me on my reaction
winter yew
Lol
shadow tartan
Really?
winter yew
Yeaaa
shadow tartan
That would have been so cool
winter yew
Lamb of God delivers too
shadow tartan
Check out the keyboard player
https://youtu.be/KcFy-lYmncE
winter yew
I just downloaded the newest DevilDriver album, it’s pretty good too.
winter yew
No kidding
shadow tartan
People have been busy during lockdown
winter yew
Just this week 4 new albums I need to sit down and listen through haha
shadow tartan
Not to mention old albums I want to listen to again
winter yew
Wildly different but Amaranthe’s new album came out too
winter yew
This fucking surprised me
I was like holy shit ANGELAA
haven’t heard her demonic voice in years
winter yew
Bruh
winter yew
You need to check out the album Tony Iommi did with a bunch of guest singers
I think it’s literally just called IOMMI
shadow tartan
You remember Strait Up?
winter yew
Yup
winter yew
That’s where I first heard Dez Fafara of Coal Chamber really let loose with his vocals
winter yew
I was like holy shit he can scream like that
winter yew
austere lance
shadow tartan
shadow tartan
crimson kelp
@balmy plaza I love watching Vai’ live performances, and Petrucci.
This youtuber is quite funny https://youtu.be/QidQiH4OwNw
shadow tartan
austere lance
Suffer
https://youtu.be/naqZx5oF9Yg
silver sparrow
Fallen order thirty bucks on ps4
I watched some on twitch and I’m still on the fence
Same on squadrons
austere lance
Fallen Order 😍
silver sparrow
So I’m playing nms survival and generation zero 🙂
I saw some draggy boss battles @austere lance
young tree
austere lance
RIP, Sea of Thieves is reaching ridiculous toxicity levels
https://kotaku.com/sea-of-thieves-streamers-quit-the-game-in-protest-again-1845238513/amp?__twitter_impression=true
silver sparrow
@austere lance how much kotor vibe is in the game
austere lance
What? It's thousands of years after KotOR and not an RPG, lol
silver sparrow
lol
austere lance
Takes place a couple years after Order 66
austere lance
It's made by the Resident Evil director, are you really surprised
cinder vessel
RIP, Sea of Thieves is reaching ridiculous toxicity levels
https://kotaku.com/sea-of-thieves-streamers-quit-the-game-in-protest-again-1845238513
@austere lance see, multiplayer was a mistake
austere lance
winter yew
Never actually played Payday before, but I've seen plenty of gameplay.
austere lance
I tried Payday 2 and it felt like a weird Left 4 Dead mod, lol
winter yew
yeah I couldn't get into it
austere lance
Same
Mainly cuz the stealth was ass
Hopefully the stealth is good in 3
And it's actually fun to play singleplayer, cuz 2 was 😴 in singleplayer
bronze wind
that's pretty badass
shadow tartan
I think it's their own design
But go see the figures
I'm thinking of backing it
This one is a render but the idea is so cool
wide kestrel
that's awesome
crimson kelp
Hehe for yourself?
full pivot
Maybe 
keen wigeon
first NMS gets the variation update and now Minecraft is in Smash and gets the CAVE UPDATE
2020's getting pretty good
cinder vessel
so y'know how Godfall has looked kinda eehh so far? Apparently on top of all that it's Always Online:
https://twitter.com/PlayGodfall/status/1312102007751147520
Twitter
austere lance
LMFAOOOOOO
full pivot
Nou
winter yew
yesme
epic games store, eh?
lol. of course
Oh yeah I think I remember it from... fkn e3 or something?
November 12
dunno there was this giant online thing, and they showed it, didn't strike me as warframe'esque.
a lot sooner than I expected
more like, diablo or some god of war thing.
they talked about different 'valor' or something
basically saying different suits
armors, whatever
with different abilities or something
now that sounds warframe'esque
fkn love rice in this game.
Here's healroot. To the right you can see hops.
Rice tho? Yeah just throw that shit whenever. 😄
from what I can gather, it seems the team for Godfall is made of devs that worked on Destiny 2 at some point too
I guess we'll see how it turns out
Ah piss. Now that's fucky.
I need to send out a caravan with the goods to finish a quest.
caravans need food to survive, that's kinda their thing.
But your colony needs food as well, and right now, kinda neither have it.
I could pack droppods with goods and animals, then buy some food at the city, and come back, but there's no guarantee we'll be able to buy much.
anybody else's Youtube home page looking like mine?
that damn blank spot :(((((
weird tags and suspicious ad space?
probably
Looks good to me
OH you're right
it is an ad
i turned off adblock for a moment
Knew it. 😄
lol
nice catch x)
gotta swap adblockers every now and then, cause they tend to pass on some ads eventually.
Had adblock+ for some time, then Adblocker Ultimate, then they I guess struck a deal, now I rock ublock origins.
Some of those are very nice. 😄
coarse swift
Godfall's definitely looked "eh" so far
The word I've been using is generic
Like, it reminds me of something
And I just cant put my finger on it
But I really don't see it taking off.
winter yew
Now that just feels like cheating.
I heard I need to do this hard task to get an AI core, meanwhile they offer one for wiping 4 shmucks.
I kinda want those serums more tbh, and then do the quest like it was intended.
nocturne tapir
anyone excited for cyberpunk 2077?
wide kestrel
Finally made it past cycle 350! Alas, my hydrogen reserves will run out before they can be replenished and my colony will suffocate.
azure tangle
Lol congrats @wide kestrel
wide kestrel
thank you
winter yew
Got to cycle like, 120 I think on my first go, but after that everything was falling apart.
Our water began to disappear, temperature was unbearable, crops not growing etc etc.
azure tangle
Got to cycle like, 120 I think on my first go, but after that everything was falling apart.
@winter yew same :c
wide kestrel
I got to cycle 80. c:
winter yew
Oxygen was the last of my worries. 😄
azure tangle
problem after problem #feelsbadman
winter yew
the entire heat system could fuck right off and the game would be just as good if not better.
wide kestrel
aquatuner cooling loops are a pain cuz the aquatuner keeps overheating and idk how to get it to stop
winter yew
Mostly because heat in this game has one peculiar quality.
namely, it FUCKING NEVER GOES AWAY.
wide kestrel
wheezeworts
winter yew
Yes.
winter yew
Entire fucking biomes filled with ice and cold.
Will eventually melt and go to shit because heat just never goes away.
wide kestrel
again, gotta make aquatuner cooling loops
in case you dont know, that means putting polluted water through a thermo aquatuner that's in a insulated chamber filled with water, and then using a steam turbine to remove heat from the steam
you can then use the cooled water for whatever you want
wet warren
Ok the new Minecraft update looks amazing. I've been hoping for something like this for a long while. Best part is that this is only a little bit of the full thing
crisp sparrow
ikr I'm hyped to see what else they have in the works
cuz it seems weird that amethyst has only one pretty meh use
pretty sure there's going to be more if we're to farm it
winter yew
@winter yew @wide kestrel are you sure that's not just a California simulator?
wide kestrel
😭
winter yew
Punchline: it's always fucking hot here
wide kestrel
at least in the game you can mitigate the heat somewhat
winter yew
Last night at midnight it was still 80 fucking degrees
It was 105-108 basically all the way until 11, and only then did it start cooling down a bit
wide kestrel
wtf
my keyboard turned Russian'
It was 105-108 basically all the way until 11, and only then did it start cooling down a bit
sounds like an urban heat island. do you live in an area with lots of cement/asphalt?
dry copper
I must be depressed. I know I've been under stress studying and doing tests, but I've got HUNDREDS of video games that I just don't want to play.
and I can't shake this feeling of just being...bummed
I hate feeling this way.
winter yew
Yeah, its a constant battle, haven't really found a solution myself.
I just force myself to do things, sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't.
I'd say tackle whats causing you the stress, but its never really that simple.
cinder vessel
Really dig how this dude manages to convey disappointment without seeming hateful about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCYMH-lp4oM
shadow tartan
winter yew
dry copper
I have discovered one underlying cause of my state of malaise and the cure is really simple.
Oxygen.
Being indoors too much, the air has a significantly lower oxygen saturation than the atmosphere outside
Going outside for a little while just to get fresh air really helps restore equilibrium. This suggests the cause is a prolonged exposure to deprivation.
Not enough to be deadly, but enough to impact brain chemistry.
It does not take much to convince an axon to accept alternative neurotransmitters in the event of deprivation, to fill a role.
silver sparrow
Plus vitamin d
thorn dawn
oxygen isn't the issue, humans are good down to 19%, and there's 21% in the air
CO2 is what has the effect
silver sparrow
Plus brain activity increases while in motion
thorn dawn
human breathing is driven by the need to get CO2 out of the lungs
dry copper
This is true
thorn dawn
CO2 in the atmosphere is 0.04%, so its level fluctuates a lot
and we're sensitive to it
silver sparrow
U fuctuate
dry copper
Could it be triggering a sympathetic nervous response to slowly increase the CO2 saturation?
winter yew
'this video is not available'
what did you do
ataripunk/chiptune/noise
if you like that, check more out here https://nationalbroadcastnetwork.bandcamp.com/
dry copper
The day classical and rap truly blend is going to be one magical fucking day
The power of the lyricist holding the sword of notation.
winter yew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6t1gAgDHaQ also some new MBR from a game he did the soundtrack for ❤️
winter yew
Progress.
Through hardships we prevail.
AI Core acquired, now we only need to finish last 2 engines, and we can power the ship up.
Heard that's going to be fun.
full pivot
i'll go for abstract
worthy viper
@arctic thistle ikr it's similar Zelda BOTW.. But i think those game half people's are pay to win
dry copper
Genshi?
worthy viper
Genshin impact
arctic thistle
I know some people spend a lot of the money but I haven't really had a need to yet. I know it's a gacha game and I've seen the shop and drop rates but the game doesn't really enforce the microtransactions to player. Been playing since release and progressing the story and other stuff at a reasonable pace without spending any money.
Like, I know some ppl spend hundreds of €£$ but I'm not that type of person
If I get hours worth of playtime I'll be willing to buy some in-game subscription for a month or so just to support the devs
cuz then I feel like they've earned the money
dry copper
How much is it?
arctic thistle
free to play
arctic thistle
It's co-op
arctic thistle
or you can join randoms
domains (games dungeons) also have a matchmaking system if you wish to play the content with others
I tried it once but I prefer to do them alone or with a friend
dry copper
smart. requiring you to invite to play with others gets the playability of co-op without the annoying overhead of managing tons of different threads of players at the same time
winter yew
that and you have to be a certain rank before you can do that anyway
Adventure rank 16 i believe
dry copper
prob to avoid gold sellers
arctic thistle
game had 10mil players on launch or something
dry copper
By forcing people to invest to get to a point where they can advertise to customers, it becomes not worth pursuing
arctic thistle
the loot and upgrading system is extremely satisfying imo
dry copper
I'll check it out later. Doing hospital forms rn
Need to learn how to do all of the forms as part of health services graduate
balmy plaza
austere lance
Tf even is the gaming community these days, lol? First that Fall Guys game took over the world, then Among Us and now it's looking like a Chinese gacha game is???
full pivot
its like everything this year, nothing lasts for more than a month
trending and short attention spans
austere lance
I'm just entertained by a Chinese gacha game hitting this hard in the west, lol. I think it's cuz it's basically being marketed by popular streamers and whatnot as a BotW clone
full pivot
waifus
austere lance
winter yew
It's chewed my entire weekend.
I rate it 9/10. Very fun.
My wife moved my PS4 so she could play too.
😕
meager panther
Its literally a botw clone with good characters lmao
Of course it will do good in West on pc players
winter yew
It's nothing like BoTW tbh. Art style is the same, that's about as far as the comparison goes.
austere lance
My friend said it has Nier combat, lol
meager panther
But it literally looks like botw and looks pretty lmao
Given how bad everything is in general i mean , people will like pretty
raven frost
waiting for more big vr games
https://media.tenor.com/images/c72bfcddf5766699ba0254fce7e4d3cc/tenor.gif
raven frost
the MoH one looks awesome, though last I checked it was gonna be facebook only
dry copper
@austere lance That nodding gandalf looks like a happily riding the pony gandalf
Sitting on the dryer gandalf
Listening to skrillex gandalf
I can't see just a nodding gandalf...Not after I saw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYajv8xsgIk
crisp sparrow
It's chewed my entire weekend.
@winter yew bro I'm already lv 22 and cleared the prologue, I got way too into it
I got sidetracked so much
Definitely the most fun RPG I've played do far
silver sparrow
feels like MP botw with a little ni no kuni thrown in mebbe
austere lance
This is the most anti-achievement hunter thing I've ever seen (you HAVE to solve this riddle for an achievement) 🤣
And the riddle details change for each playthrough, so you can't just Google it
dry copper
@crisp sparrow I'm installing Genshin. How is the game socially? Do you see strangers? Are they strange? Is there a char customization?
I feel only very slightly bad that I ordered ink for my printer and paid six bucks extra for 1 day delivery
I know how hard they work to get 1 day deliveries out the door so that stress I felt slightly bad for, but holy crap I had Epson rn. The printer won't work unless I have AAAALL colors of ink at least to some degree
even if I only want to print in black.
winter yew
I'm installing Genshin. How is the game socially? Do you see strangers? Are they strange? Is there a char customization?
@dry copper You don't see strangers, it can be fully played as a single player game, but you can invite friends to do co-op missions.
dry copper
Holy crap. Just finished my first run of "Genesis Alpha One....
That game is kind of fun
You're basically managing power systems and navigation for an entire ship and fighting various alien infestations that get in through your exploring the cosmos
I don't know all the systems, but there are tons of power nodes to manage, oxygen distribution, research, crew, defense, offense...
My only complaint. It said put down a turret but never told me how
Just was like...K, go get a turret. Now put it down.
I spent so long trying to figure out how to do that an infestation destroyed the vital nodules maintaining my oxygen levels, which just cascaded from there
By the end of it I was stuck in the crew quarters with one other crew mate and the main corridor was destroyed
Entire ship went after I was unable to travel around to restore it
But it was awesome...
First time I never felt frustrated dying...I felt like...Yeah, that's a learning curve
austere lance
That just makes me wanna play Void Bastards again, lol
dry copper
I have void bastards. Does that have ship maintenance in it?
I like the art style but haven't installed it
austere lance
It's a rogue-like where you fly around to ship wreckages and loot em for whatever things your current mission requires. There's different sizes of ships you can land with randomized enemies and loot on em (but it'll tell you if the items your mission is asking for are there). You have guns and gadgets that you can upgrade that carry between characters (when you die you become a new prisoner with new perks, some good some bad)
I think ex-Bioshock devs worked on it
Your little ship requires fuel and you require food, so you gotta try to loot as much of both as you can find. Traveling to new ship wreckages takes in-game days and costs food+fuel
Sounds complicated on paper but it's pretty simple in-game, lol
raven frost
Void Bastards is a fun little rougelike, lots of character
dry copper
Genshin is obnoxiously beautiful....
winter yew
yeaa
winter yew
Destiny 2 wasn't free to play to begin with so it doesn't count
i dont know why i accidentally marked that as spoiler
its just from warframe photo mode
dry copper
Oh this is clever.
This is sneaky clever.
They hide this treasure chest in the starter area. You can only swim to it if you take your time, otherwise you run out of stamina and drown
The reward...Heal buff, crit buff, sword and bow
what do 3 stars mean?
dry copper
what the hell is this diaper wearing fairy helping me?
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Do we have another bravely default
dry copper
Is this game an allegory for China's struggle with self actuation in a foreign land? This story is....different
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winter yew
oh hey
i was playing my 3ds earlier too
but i was just getting frustrated at Super Mario 3D Land and not my usual games 😭
raven frost
yooooooo
winter yew
yeeee
raven frost
SM3DL most underappreciated mario game
raven frost
it's such an odd game tbh, like it feels oddly unfinished somehow
like the whole thing was a test
raven frost
which might be true considering 3DW was released not long after
might've been nintendo dipping their toes in the water
winter yew
prolly
raven frost
I love games like that, that feel like they're not entirely finished in a way
like yeah they're finished, but it almost feels like a piece of concept art turned physical
dry copper
Okay I just got a shit load of rewards for checking my mail and notices.
winter yew
yeaaa
winter yew
well i mean.. it is a gacha game
dry copper
So...There's no sneak or crouch?
I can walk.
If you're playing with friends that all just started, do they all look the same?
A bunch of blonde dudes or girls?
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I got oddly bored by 3d land
raven frost
I never got to get my hands on it
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It's not particularly rare?
raven frost
3D World
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Ah
raven frost
it was a Wii U exclusive and I skipped out on it
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My last consoles were a ps3 and wii, so yeeeeah
raven frost
I very nearly picked up a Wii U but later decided against it
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I mostly use my ps3 to backup my vita, lol
raven frost
kinda ashamed I didn't, they're gonna be pretty fuckin collectable in the next 5 or so years
winter yew
i borrowed a friend's ps3 to redownload some PSP games that you could only download through the ps3 to transfer to the vita..
then backed them up multiple places on my pc
raven frost
I remember buying a PS3 exclusively for littlebigplanet
I had the PSP version growing up and I fucking loved it
dry copper
hahaha the dialogue
raven frost
then LBP2 released and I probably logged 1000 hours at least on LBP2
LBP3 doesn't exist.
dry copper
"Who is this?"
Options include
"We're friends"
"Emergency food"
dry copper
I was so tempted to say emergency food
raven frost
should've tbh
winter yew
emergency food lmao.
i loved that bit
this was the first digital download game i bought on psp
was trippy as heck
then I got this
still looks good today even on the ps vita screen
though there's a Stardust that came out on vita that looks closer to Geometry Wars 3 than anything
the vita looks so TINY in that guy's hands
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Fun fact. I've imported something like 8 psp/vita games
winter yew
cool
winter yew
I bought one of those LimitedRun copies of Shakedown Hawaii awhile back
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MH2ndG back when G rank was never localised
winter yew
and uhhh Lumines Remastered for PS4
finding physical vita games in my state seems to be basically impossible nowadays.
when it was new, they were more widely available but I wasn't into the vita much the first couple years, so i missed out on a lot.
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P3rd that got a ps3 version, right?
Phantasy Star Portable 2
Gundam Breaker 3
God Eater 2:RB
Bonus: pso2
winter yew
nice
I own physically for vita : Lumines Electronic Symphony, Shakedown Hawaii, Freedom Wars, and Rayman Legends.
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It was so annoying to pay a premium to import a game, only for it to get an English version
winter yew
oof
dry copper
lol little timmie's like "You're scaring the pigeons!"
So I respond "They'll be back"
To whit he opines: "But what if they one day don't come back, like daddy"
...But they wouldn't let me respond
"Then you wouldn't have shit all over the place anymore, like with daddy"
winter yew
wow
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...what?
winter yew
a kid just outside of the first town you visit in Genshin Impact
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Ah
cinder vessel
I very nearly picked up a Wii U but later decided against it
@raven frost yo do it, backwards compat with Wii & native HDMI out, whereas Wii just doesn't have that as I recall
raven frost
I would if I wasn't stripped for cash rn
cinder vessel
RIP, also sorry i think i saw you were just trying to go to bed or somethin'
raven frost
though that being said I have my Wii somewhere, the only reason I'd pull it out was to rip ROMS off discs
cinder vessel
the wii is the best gamecube game ripper ever, lol
cinder vessel
yeah it's not bad at all
i've put homebrew on 2 wiis, first was a family member's so we could more easily share games & then my own when I got one
dry copper
I had to force myself to stop playing. I have a test to study for tomorrow...but the game is alright.
I'm not sure I like the combat, but the art style is great and the story isn't horrible.
I'm put off by how little I know about the story so early on...it feels like I just got dumped into a foreign land at the start of a major event....which, incidentally, the character I play has...but it didn't help that I was equally aloof before even getting to THAT point.
I half expected NPC to be talking about events and for me to trip over exposition to better shape the environment
Instead, they were all pretty quiet beyond actually talking to them directly
Haven't seen a bad review of the game
cinder vessel
here is my bad review of the game:
it's gacha
gacha is notoriously predatory business model
that sucks
it bad
the end
dry copper
I want to see a dunkey review
He'd probably be just like that
"This game sucks. Don't play it. I love it."
"This is fun and you shouldn't have it"
"I hate myself for liking this and I'm okay with that"
daring spear
sounds pretty accurate
daring spear
so for anyone else who enjoys the adorable cuteness that is Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion... I just learned of a brand new dlc for it
dry copper
I'm so angry. This medical book teaching me latin to demonstrate punch biopsy shows me a biopsy of a nipple...and all I can think now is OUCHYEFUCKINGUBNNIPPLE!
glass plinth
Well, I put sooo many hours into Genshin and I can say, without much doubt, I enjoy the hell out of it. Playing with maybe 12 other people right now. Really isnt a mmo since its more or less a co-op.
Well the thing is, you do want all the heros, however if your willing to just enjoy the game with the heros you get, you can basically play it with what it provides. I havent ran into a single pay wall, my friends closer to half way through the game and hasnt really ran into one.
You just sorta, wander around like a old fashioned console game
Id say like hrmmm
Chrono trigger maybe or lufia?
The story line definitely is tounge and teek
TON of references to mordern stuff thats hilarious. Not to mention they sure dont make any allusions to hide who one faction si supposed to represent, AHEM russia
Lol leon
Your a dork
So did some basic math, since all the heros can be obtained by primogen, and primogen respawns daily, how long to get all the characters if you played daily 2 hours, LOL 540 hours, give or take. IF you were going for all the current ones without help from mission wishes and achievements ones.
THats suprisingly lean for a gacha
Thats also with the worst rolls
Btw, leon, you play console games much
I may just be estatic to play a console style , I havent in like... 13 years
crisp sparrow
He plays offline games
So this is totally the opposite of a game he'd play
Ignore his reactions he's missing out
cinder vessel
Well, more than that, I just don't like the business model
austere lance
I like how the gaming community bitches about lootboxes then immediately hype-trains the shit out of a gacha game
cinder vessel
It puts me a little in the mind of Let It Die, which I wanted to like, but was bogged down to hell & back by being free to play.
Had a weird, fun atmosphere as Suda51's known for, and imo pretty enjoyable gameplay, but it woulda been better as something ya just bought instead of prodding you to buy this or that
austere lance
@cinder vessel I reached the damn riddle in Dishonored 2 that gives you an achievement if you solve it, 10/10 say not worth it 😆
cinder vessel
And that's what's always looming overhead or in the background of free to play games
Which, hey, gotta make that money somehow...But also, y'know, for some of'em, I'd be willing to pay upfront instead...
But that's just not as profitable as mindfucking some portion of your audience into spending hand over fist, which doesn't happen as much if they can just buy the game
glass plinth
I personally usually play gacha games like a mini sub
I spend 5 bucks a month
I enjoy the game, so I just sub a bit and get little perks
THats the nice thing with that model, you can basically do anything and if you do contribute, the game does well. It develops more content
Its a net win
I played Black desert that way for.. well over a year methinds
cinder vessel
blegh, but then, it figures you wouldn't mind these. You play more of this sort of servicey game and don't appear to be as susceptible to it manipulating you
glass plinth
Yup
Precisely. Ive been gaming for ages. So I know how it all works.
The great thing is, with these model of games they tend to develop content rather rapidly
Since the more they put in it, the more money they make lol
Also the devs for this studio seem geniunely sorta nice
I sent them a letter in game, just to thank them for the game and told them my perspective
THey sent me a letter back thanking me for the time spent writting a heart felt letter and gave me 10 free wishes lol
glass plinth
Not to mention the letter was suprisingly not automated haha
I was a bit surprised it was actually written by a person
ha, bribes indeed
Also a lot of questions..
THey geniunely seem to be interested in how the game is percieved and wanting to let me know how they percieve it
from a storyline and gameplay approach
cinder vessel
okay so be like, "yo make a game you just buy"
austere lance
Day 3 of me laughing at Godfall requiring an internet connection, on top of its boring af gameplay
glass plinth
hehe, games are never just bought
Not even the pay to buys
Just different scales of time and profit
Never forget that
austere lance
Wot
austere lance
Looks at my copy of Morrowind I've had since 2002
glass plinth
Yes and how many dlc came out for it?
glass plinth
Actually i think a few, lemme check
austere lance
Oblivion had DLC
austere lance
Yep
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Morrowind had 3? Expansions
glass plinth
A lot of it has to do with expected scale too
austere lance
I've never ever ever ever heard of Morrowind having expansions
glass plinth
I seem to remember it did
But I cant be sure
Something about the blood coast..
I dunno
been awhile
Generally most gamers like the size of the games these days, they want more and more content, since well more is better.
austere lance
Oh yeah, those got packaged with it a year later
glass plinth
DLC sorta allow for that
you pay more, get more, which makes another and another
it pays for the development cycle
The gacha style games are fundamentally doing the same thing, with other mechanics. Some are downright ugly
Where you cant even get most of the items without money
Others, not so much
In the end, the mechanics relaly dont mean much though if they are fair
just differing models for progressive development
NMS really is incredible in that it keeps it development going, just by attracting more buyers with better content
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I forget #3
The players guide that was packaged in the jumbo pack was amazing
Because the game didn't have quest markers or a compass, 90% of the quest walkthroughs were walking directions
And the authors had fun with it
Compared vampires liking storms due to lower sun damage to being The Munsters
The one on nord island gave a werewolf transformation ring
cinder vessel
Hmm, doing some research into Mihoyo's (devs of Genshin Impact) previous work, it looks like my misgivings weren't too off the mark.
There is a chance they'll take what they've learned from their prior games and try not to put people off in the same ways, but by players' own accounts of their spending, they have little reason to do so.
TL;DR is, Mihoyo is like any gacha game dev and mucks with their gacha designs to push people to spend more than they might normally via FOMO manipulation and flat out pay to win balancing.
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With none of the downsides
glass plinth
I think the fundamental thing they wanted people to feel was.. comfort while grinding, they cut out almost all the time syncs of bad design. IE really bad time consuming UI and such
Hehe, one sure fire way to get people to spend money is make it so painful to do something you want to make it end and pay for it
The other thing they sorta wanted players to feel was, at ease. Like the game was just comfortable and really awesome inspiring
Its sorta weird
I keep getting that vibe
cinder vessel
Just one example, but in responses to others asking if they should get into it, you'll see some others warning about it being pay to win.
https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/ev8frm/parting_words_from_a_veteran_player/
glass plinth
Yeah, I guess they hired another developer for game flow design in this game
austere lance
I just like games I buy once and be done with, lol
glass plinth
Yeah I never felt that
Shrugs
Ive never really played many games like that
Kerbals
Simcity
So on
All games i knew would develop over time
SCREW THE SIMS!
cinder vessel
Yeah, like I said, they may have learned from their past work and have eased up on it...Or they're taking it easy right now to get loads of folks in, then they'll start squeezing them for cash through whatever they add
austere lance
Singleplayer offline games make up 90% of what I play, lol
Buy it once, don't have to worry about it ever again
cinder vessel
Fortnite did the same sorta thing with its Battle Royale, light if not nonexistent (at the very start) monetization that ramped up over time
glass plinth
Hrmm
cinder vessel
I suspect Genshin Impact will see a similar path develop, where it's all chill & fun at first but they start ramping up monetization and you feel increasingly left out of new stuff if you don't pay
glass plinth
I think if the amount of money friends are spending on the game now is any sign, theyll be able to stay pretty loose.
Indeed possible
I mean look at black desert, fundamentally you can get most everything without money
the time sink is insanity though
cinder vessel
yeah making it a joke to even suggest that you can
glass plinth
Mind you the PVP is utter garbage
Well I can
I did
Mind you I have a way to.
Some people lack... creativity
😛
cinder vessel
not sure if implying cheating or not 
glass plinth
No no
austere lance
Imma stick with phat singleplayer games, lol
glass plinth
Well, you got for it!
I mean there are some amazing singleplayers
Whats the best single player you played recently Sound?
austere lance
I'm perfectly fine with my games not "evolving over time" or whatever, I like a complete game at release 😆
cinder vessel
you still rerolling through KotOR, or juggling that & Dishonored 2 atm?
glass plinth
Yeah, I think if the game industry wont be able to do full releases for much longer, due to cost.
austere lance
Best singleplayer recently? Hmmmm, hard to say. Ori and the Will of the Wisps is probably my GOTY, phenomenal game 😍
glass plinth
Yes!
I love that game
hehe
Although, that one has updates. So its driving development costs too
austere lance
@cinder vessel Hooked on Dishonored 2 rn, gonna finish my first playthrough as Corvo then do NG+ as Emily
glass plinth
I bought that for my ex
great game
Frankly, I dont buy many games anymore
Red dead redemption 2 being the last
Cyberpunk will be probably the only I get next year.
austere lance
I very very very rarely buy anything at release, I just wait for sales
glass plinth
Hehe
thus me waiting on cyberpunk until next year.
Fairly sure Genshin will have me busy until febuary anyways
austere lance
I have a bunch of Microsoft Rewards Points saved up so I'm gonna use em all to knock $40 off Cyberpunk's price and get it (if it doesn't suck, lol)
glass plinth
hehe
I cant be sure
I mean I know someone who did the low end spec tests who loved it
But I dont persay trust his judgement
He hated a few games I loved 😛
lavish obsidian
cinder vessel
Yeah, I think if the game industry wont be able to do full releases for much longer, due to cost.
@glass plinth and that's where smaller games (not necessarily indie, but obvs including indie) will continue to be refreshing
glass plinth
Indeed!
Though I think the billion dollar game sims down the line will be kick ass
LOL
I personally like seeing more complex stuff with time, Ill pay more to, since, obviously they offer different gameplay then a small game
that being said, as time goes on, what small studios can make scales upwards to
So in 10 years what we consider premium now, will be standard later.
Which is great to think about
Though I think there is a upwards limit to what small studios will able to develop.
We will see.
Hrmm, one game im watching right now besides Cyberpunk is paralives
SO nice a smaller studio is going to try and enter the fray and develop a THe Simcs style game
Frankly, love the genre
HATE EA
thats all there is to it
Saying alot, I QA tested games for them for years.
Id never do that ever EVER again
Personal reasons!
hehe, time for bed!
take care all!
shadow tartan
Have a great week everyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNjeAnwGhzc
coarse swift
what the f-
crisp sparrow
vases bro
winter yew
She like em thicc
silver sparrow
scent of sprung