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jade lake
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do you need vr for it

echo hill
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for beat saber?

jade lake
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for déraciné

echo hill
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oh

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idek what that is

jade lake
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its what gmr was talking about

idle saffron
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Yes, you need vr for it

jade lake
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o

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bummer

cinder vessel
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yeah, also move controllers

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although tbh i kind of feel like they could/should push an update to allow for standard controller use. There's nothing in how it plays that absolutely necessitates the move controllers

cinder vessel
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ohffuuu, so I thought Déraciné didn't have multiple endings given its simplicity but I was totally wrong apparently, and only found out by wondering how the fuck i missed the last trophy

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I knew it seemed off how it ended, but I thought that was sorta the whole point to it

cinder vessel
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makes so much more sense now why it has the option enabling you to skip completed parts to revisit the last now, they clearly noticed folks overlooked the true ending

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incidentally, even with that option present, looking at how many people even got the last two-thirds of the game's trophies suggests many people trailed off before it got to the good stuff

rigid haven
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Skip completed parts??

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Holy shit that's great

cinder vessel
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Yeah, but only once you've reached the end

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There's one little thing that makes you loop through each part, but there's no trophy for it and it's only really there for ultracompletionists, or confused ppl like me that thought there was a trophy for it

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And even then, it only makes you do that if you missed the hidden things the first time through, and given there's no time limits or anything, you can take as much time as you need/want looking for'em

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So I literally found 7/8 of them first time through & only had to loop back around for the last, which kinda sucked but it's super quick to breeze through once ya know what to do

rigid haven
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Interesting

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I'll have to see if I can find a playthrough, I've seen you speak super highly of it recently

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I also think it was mentioned at E3? So I'm surprised I forgot

cinder vessel
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It might have been? Very briefly if so

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It's not a great game, I'd say, but I think it's good, particularly if you enjoy visual novel style stuff

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Not heavy on puzzles or anything, mainly just a hidden object game I'd say, find the thing, put it with this to do the things, etc.

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But I mean it makes the second strictly VR title I've completed, for whatever that's worth

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also i should mention its main cast is children that don't make me hate them so that's doin' somethin' right so far as I'm concerned

rigid haven
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Hidden object game in VR?

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That sounds pretty odd, but maybe great

cinder vessel
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literally one of the first major tasks is find where the kids hid their herbs

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and that's...really the basic gist of the game, find the key objects here or there to get things moving along when used at the appropriate places

rigid haven
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isn't that more akin to point and click?

cinder vessel
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so hidden object/point & click

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yeah, more point & click i guess

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but a lot of point & clicks remind me of hidden object stuff sometimes, lol

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pixelhunting & all that

rigid haven
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Oh yeah, true

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Point and click games are just hidden object games with more passwords

cinder vessel
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i guess I didn't think point & click because it doesn't really have you combine any items in an inventory

rigid haven
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That too

cinder vessel
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waitasec...This makes Déraciné my first game of this year finished

rigid haven
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OH SHIT it does

cinder vessel
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aayy

rigid haven
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I wonder what mine will be bitch_think

cinder vessel
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Nier: Automata again

rigid haven
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I lent my copy to my brother so nope GWnanamiKonataCry

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I'd like to make it KH3 but there's still 25 days left

cinder vessel
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can't remember, have you been playing through the old ones as ya wait?

rigid haven
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I've been wanting to

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But I'm also trying to replay P5 and max all confidants

cinder vessel
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aah

cinder vessel
raven frost
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well damn

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I thought dreams died

cinder vessel
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nope

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just in perpetual development as they accidentally a new game engine basically

raven frost
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that's... cool, I guess? I still hate Mm for what they did to LBP

cinder vessel
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?

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as in put it off to a diff. dev to go on & make Dreams?

raven frost
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yeah

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I'm judt salty because LBP3 was fucking garbage

meager panther
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what is LBP3?

raven frost
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LittleBigPlanet 3

cinder vessel
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I think they coulda been more upfront about that, so I agree there

echo hill
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that game was so fun

cinder vessel
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I only barely knew they weren't the ones developing it tbh

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And then I read about it being rough on PS3 and that made me bummed

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But supposedly PS4 is/was better

raven frost
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PS4 was still buggy as hell

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and it couldn't find my old progress

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as well as the dlc I paid for, so it tried to make me pay for all of it again

meager panther
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Link to little big planet?

raven frost
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uh

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LittleBigPlanet (LBP) is a puzzle platform video game series created by Media Molecule and published by Sony Computer Entertainment on multiple PlayStation platforms. The series follows the adventures of Sackboy and has a large emphasis on gameplay rather than being story-dri...

meager panther
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Oh it's a platformer

echo hill
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its so fun tho

brisk merlin
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its the best

meager panther
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It's only console too

fluid hare
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Personally wish there was a Halo 3 campaign on PC.

cinder vessel
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MCC on PC when

echo hill
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^^

cinder vessel
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on a different note, has anyone here played Death Mark?

cinder vessel
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whatdis

meager panther
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Osiris

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New dawn

cinder vessel
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Huh, I didn't realize they got into space, new update/addition?

meager panther
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Yeah

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It's got planets now

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New stuff

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Lots of it

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Like these

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Are being worked on now

echo hill
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Those look like the Apothicons from Black Ops

iron inlet
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I really like PoGo's Buddy system

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I walk about 5 km a day, so I'm getting 5 Aron Candy a day, and I'm almost at a Lairon, so then I can start working up to Aggron

full pivot
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Maybe ill have to give Osiris another look

jade lake
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has anyone here played hyper light drifter

rigid haven
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Yes

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It's been a while though

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It's good i like it

jade lake
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its a neat game

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super relaxing but can also be frustrating

full pivot
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i think i might jump back into Star Trek Online and see if its any good anymore

rigid haven
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I've a friend who was super into it, mainly because it was Star Trek

full pivot
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yeah I binged TNG over the xmas break so that's why i wanna play it again haha

rigid haven
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I should take a look myself since they said some good things

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And my laptop will be able to run it now

full pivot
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i'm prolly gonna check out being a TOS character first 😛

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i still have a previously max level Federation engineer

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but i get so lost trying to re-acquaint myself with all the jimmy jams i had on it

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i also need to look into changing my username since its so ancient

rigid haven
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Is it something dumb like, uhh

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One of my old ones is Lolmaster3333

idle saffron
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As long as it isn’t Drink Bepis, she should be good

rigid haven
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Drank Bepis

idle saffron
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Drunk Bepis

full pivot
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no its EP-Athena

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from an old CoD clan

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i just want everything to be MsAethena these days 😛

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oh yay my computer's being a complete a-hole tonite

idle saffron
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Kick it

full pivot
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tfw the lowest height setting in a game is taller than you are 😭

idle saffron
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Lol

meager panther
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Lol

idle saffron
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Call of Cthulhu

full pivot
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so it does get into somewhat cooler stuff

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good to know i kinda gave up on it haha

idle saffron
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It’s ok- coulda been great

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The story is decent, the pacing is not

full pivot
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yeah the pacing is what lost me :c

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mebbe i'll give it another try sometime

idle saffron
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I played it in little bursts - the clunky movement and load times don’t help immersion, but there are a few decisions you make that actually affect how the game unfolds - some of the occult happenings are pretty neat as well

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C-

jade lake
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Unreal pt is pretty neat

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its basically PT but on pc

rigid haven
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PC

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Oh wait that's not a clever pun

jade lake
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😒

full pivot
austere lance
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I see you're playing Wolfenstein

jade lake
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nice one detective

austere lance
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😉

jade lake
full pivot
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decided to check out Beat Hazard and like an idiot i indexed my music folder

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guess i'll be here for a while

winter yew
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Beat Hazard is a great way to go blind

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I typically play death metal songs on it x)

idle saffron
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Call of Cthulhu

meager panther
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Holy shit

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Look at this

winter yew
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hmmm

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and gaming laptop in the middle

meager panther
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They have 4xboxs apparently

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Idk it's looks like the perfect place to spend the summer at

winter yew
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Can tell it's not in the UK cause of the air conditioning.

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So, that's me out.

meager panther
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It's down under

winter yew
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Ahhh, that'll do it.

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I'll start walking now, I might be there in time for Christmas 2020

rigid haven
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Just come to my house

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Best UK place

winter yew
rigid haven
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Bepis everywhere

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And everywhere is cool and there's a jukebox that constantly plays my theme

winter yew
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Oh wow.

meager panther
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Is bepis a name for something else?

brisk merlin
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no

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its for bepis

meager panther
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No

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It's woop

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It's obviously

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Something else

winter yew
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Your name is ho ho ho claus and it isn't even Christmas. 🤷

meager panther
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I told I am year round santa

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I don't do stuff only one day a year and disappear

rigid haven
meager panther
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That's actual santa

winter yew
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🤔

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GOOD point

meager panther
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I give gifts to kids year round

winter yew
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Oh

meager panther
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Sometimes to even well behaved adults

jade lake
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Oh

wide warren
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Give me coal so i can use it to cook my final meal

winter yew
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Paradigm is a good game.

rigid haven
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Phat Beatsies

austere lance
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Oof, you can get the Xbox version of BF V Deluxe Edition for $26 from CDKeys

austere lance
cinder vessel
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was the mission 15 mins tops? 🤔

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was seeing stuff about them showing that mission in full

austere lance
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Yep

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It's a helluva 15 minutes, lol

shut lynx
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n e 1 in a nice Fallout discord? For 76 mostly. Could be fun to hook up with more players time to time and talk about the bugs features

rigid haven
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I'd like to find one and see if I can salvage my current character

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Their stats are all over

shut lynx
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Your S.P.E.C.I.A.L.?

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That would be a taunt in another place in the net GWskarzzLUL

idle saffron
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Rude

rigid haven
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Yes

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They really are special KonataCry

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I found the almighty power of a VATS build while trying to stay melee main

shut lynx
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I'm just stuck at level 20~ because l move camps and spend hours on my wooden shacks, between occasionally advancing quests

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Got into a random group of 4 yesterday. Did a little tour together, was really fun. Suprisingly you can decently fight level 60 enemies being a 20 something like so

rigid haven
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I've been at the high school on Watoga, real nice place to level

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I'm about 42 or something, hopefully I'll reach 50 soon so I can use more weapons

shut lynx
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Last night l went all the way south over the quarries and built a nice hut in the little hill forest. I'll do two objectives there and rebuild elsewhere GWmythiBlobLUL

rigid haven
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I really want to go to the swampy area but I haven't had the chance

shut lynx
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l had a peek of one of the more rugged areas east while in the team. One was lvl101 and another lvl62 so l was pretty safe 🐤

rigid haven
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I met this one level 180 in power armour and he took me on a trip to kill a mirelurk queen and a god damn 91 deathclaw

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The deathclaw killed me in one hit but damn was the xp worth it

shut lynx
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Yeah l did 4 level ups with that team.

winter yew
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anthem more like worse destiny 2

teal mason
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just wait for a year dryaxxAnime

austere lance
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I'm hyped af for Anthem 😍

teal mason
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ew mobile gaem

austere lance
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@winter yew *better Destiny 2

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Actually, that would require it being like Destiny 😄

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The loot system and Javelin abilities are very much like Diablo

cinder vessel
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diablo 🤢

jade lake
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^

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agreed

austere lance
cinder vessel
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lil' reminder if u got into the Assassin's Creed Odyssey Project Stream testing thingum, you have until January 15th to play it for over an hour to get it for free on PC

iron inlet
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So, Soldier 76 is gay

brisk merlin
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good for him

iron inlet
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Agreed

rigid haven
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Who's that

iron inlet
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from Overwatch

limber harness
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...

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way to be progressive, blizzard

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it totally doesnt feel forced and/or offensive

brisk merlin
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offensive?

iron inlet
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I don't think it feels forced at all

limber harness
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and it's totally not saying "HEY GUYZ LOOK WE HAZ GAI CHARACTERS ARENT WE KEWL AND PROGRESIV"

rigid haven
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Only the people who get offend by that find it offensive

brisk merlin
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I mean there are too many gay people in some games nowadays

rigid haven
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It's just whatever really

limber harness
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diversity for diversity's sake only makes the problem worse

iron inlet
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The ratio should be roughly equivalent to reality

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and in terms of Overwatch, I'm pretty sure it is

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there's how many heroes? This is now 2 that are gay

rigid haven
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I don't think any ratios should be incorporated or anything, if they're gay, they're gay 🤷

iron inlet
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True, but when it comes to the "forced" comments, I think ratios are a good thing to quote

limber harness
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better way: is it relevant to their backstory/lore?

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no? ok dont mention it

brisk merlin
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I mean it was brought up in a comic

limber harness
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(protip: this works for people too. if it isn't relevant it doesn't matter)

iron inlet
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Yeah it's part of his backstory

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it's not like it's actually part of the game

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it's in the lore for Overwatch

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(also for reference 3.8% of people identify on the LGBT+ spectrum so that's 1/20)

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There's currently 29(?) playable heroes in overwatch, so it's a believable ratio

echo hill
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2/29?

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i mean idk what the issue is

idle saffron
echo hill
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if theyre gay, theyre gay

limber harness
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all i'm asking is: does it matter they're gay? like, how does that affect anything other than PR for Blizzard?

echo hill
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no it doesnt matter

iron inlet
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I mean, it's just part of his lore

limber harness
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if it's just a PR stunt, that's disgusting and low of Blizzard.

brisk merlin
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explains backstories or who they are doing it for maybe

jade lake
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i agree with kaz here

limber harness
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If there's a true genuine reason for that, then sure ok

jade lake
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it feels cheap

iron inlet
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I feel like the true genuine reason for it is that people wanted Overwatch Lore

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and Soldier:76 is gay

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so that's part of his lore

rigid haven
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True, all the lore things are optional

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Like, you can play overwatch and not see anything about the characters

iron inlet
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Exactly

jade lake
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hey guys spy from TF2 is actually pansexual

cinder vessel
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overwatch having any story at all is pretty lol

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same with tf2

jade lake
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i agree

cinder vessel
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it's very much like, why...not make a narrative game...instead?

jade lake
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blizzard: "UH UH THIS CHARACTER IS GAY". everyone else: "uh ok cool"

cinder vessel
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leaving them as they are, people can imagine they're however they wish so it all works out

echo hill
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while i don't play the game that much... i do think an overwatch movie would be kinda cool

cinder vessel
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overwatch has always been more interesting via its cutscenes & comics than the game itself imo

iron inlet
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I mean Blizzard is known for games with deep and rich story, so when Overwatch came out and it obviously didnt have one, fans wanted the option for one

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so they got one

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@jade lake it's more like

Everyone Else: ALL OF THEM ARE GAY AND YOU CANT CHANGE MY MIND
Blizzard: I mean, these 2 actually are though
Everyone Else: SURE I'LL TAKE IT

cinder vessel
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tbh i associate blizzard more with the gameplay of their stuff than the stories

echo hill
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i just hope to god that there wont be a fortnite movie/tv show

cinder vessel
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lol

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how would that even work

echo hill
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hell, the game is stil in early access xD

austere lance
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The only Blizzard game I play is Diablo, lol

iron inlet
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god remember the fortnite TV show rumour?

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Dark times

cinder vessel
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the only one i played was starcraft

jade lake
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actually u rite, the OW fanbase is more ravenous than i remember @iron inlet

iron inlet
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"Coming Spring 2019, Fortnite: Battle Royale, only on Cartoon Network!"

cinder vessel
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but then they decided to be dumb af and divide the sequel into three entries so i just dropped it

echo hill
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kill me now

iron inlet
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Starcraft 2 was actually really good

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like, all of it

rigid haven
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Winston is a gorilla he's actually nonsexual

iron inlet
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I'd recommend going back and playing it now

cinder vessel
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oh i know, but fuck the way they handled the selling of it

iron inlet
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pretty sure it's F2P

rigid haven
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Unless one of the overwatch characters are a furry

iron inlet
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Winston is actually just a guy in a harambe fursuit

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change my mind

cinder vessel
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it's as bad hitman season 1 was imo, fine game, but goddamn the business side of it puts me so off

iron inlet
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dude same

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I hope Hitman Classic will be good

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Absolution and Blood Money with the new graphics

idle saffron
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Nomnomnom

iron inlet
jade lake
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i played the game a year after it came out and DAMN hitman 2016 is actually quite good

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but the episodic stuff can fuck off

cinder vessel
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and the always online bullshit

idle saffron
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I liked it, but I waited for the whole thing also

iron inlet
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also lmao worst part about Hitman 2016

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You can get it in game pass

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but literally only the training levels

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like what the actual fuck

idle saffron
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Wet your whistle

cinder vessel
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that's the part that kills my interest in hitman 2016 & 2018, you can't progress unless you're online

jade lake
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same

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its so annoying

cinder vessel
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and sure, you keep it afterward if you wanna play offline but like goddamn fuck off

jade lake
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i want to try hitman 2 but that online shit is so unbelievably stupid

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its a fucking single player game

cinder vessel
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hitman has never struck me as needing any of that online garbage

iron inlet
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Hitman 2 is very good, because it has Hitman 1 in it iirc

fallen notch
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It's not like it's some kind of magical effective always-online-DRM either, as 2 is already cracked as far as I know...

idle saffron
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You don’t have to be online for the story

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Just the ghost and other mp style stuff

iron inlet
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When it came out there was dumb online stuff

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like if you lost connection it'd take you back to main menu

cinder vessel
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yeah, it's just an added layer of why even Moo, so silly

idle saffron
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You can’t switch halfway through still

iron inlet
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yuck

cinder vessel
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wha?

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whaddya mean Gleam?

fallen notch
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You make a profile as offline or online, and it stays that way, or something like that...?

idle saffron
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It still separates online and offline saves

cinder vessel
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oooh

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bleh

idle saffron
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🤷

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Game is good enough for me not to care about that

cinder vessel
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my favorite part was watching Giant Bomb trying it & even they couldn't keep which save was which clear

idle saffron
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Lol

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My Xbox is always online when it’s on anyways, so I don’t ever have the problem

cinder vessel
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but yeah, my concern is like, i take games stupid slow most of the time so i don't want to deal with some dumb online BS down the line if i go to revisit or finish it

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and i mean sure IO may keep goin' for forever in a day, but knowing my luck somethin' dumb would happen with'em

idle saffron
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I getcha

echo hill
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Gotcha

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Gotem

idle saffron
cinder vessel
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on an entirely different note...does anyone know how the name vive came about?

idle saffron
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Not me

austere lance
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Lol, all the racehorses in this show are named after Destiny guns

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Patience and Time, The Last Word, Touch of Malice, The Fourth Horsemen, Down and Doubt

rigid haven
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Maybe destiny guns are named after the horses

austere lance
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😄

echo hill
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no, how did it? @cinder vessel

cinder vessel
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i wish i knew

idle saffron
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Lol

cinder vessel
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Finished normal run of Minit

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It's not bad, not really sure I understand the load of praise for it tho

full pivot
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People have things they like, but I think more specifically gamers tend to flock to things that other gaming community figures they like praise

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Imo theres a lot of clustered thinking cuz I rarely understand the high praise of certain games

echo hill
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Hola familia

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Oh wrong chat

iron inlet
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Oh man

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the NieR automata speedrun at AGDQ was over 4 hours long

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woof

winter yew
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How long is that game normally

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(I ask that even though I’ve played it lol)

iron inlet
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long as fuck iirc

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but the fact that the speedrun was 4 hours is a testament to the length of that game

rigid haven
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About 60 hours

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Wait

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I'd say about 40

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HLTB has it at 20

idle saffron
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GameFly has shipped: Soul Caliber VI

winter yew
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Nice!

iron inlet
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Some of the Marine dialogue in Halo 2 is amazing

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"Come back here so I can kill you!"

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"I don't know who was laughing, but it sure wasnt you little girl scout!"

fluid hare
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I love that game!

iron inlet
austere lance
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They kept the dialogue for H2 Anniversary 😄

fluid hare
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I’ll see what I can do about getting the MCC.

cinder vessel
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Spyro is still great

echo hill
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Wait gamefly is still a thing?

winter yew
cinder vessel
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vroom!

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also yeah, gamefly still is

meager panther
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So is elite getting on planet stuff any time soon?

winter yew
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Can already land on planets.

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Atmosphere and space lags is rumored for this year.

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legs*

meager panther
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No like biomes

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And stuff

winter yew
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This year apparently

meager panther
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Oh cool

winter yew
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There are some biomes already, just super rare.

cinder vessel
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huh, like variations of barren? Last I checked there's still no life goin' on besides whatever bases are built

winter yew
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I dunno, I'm super new to the game so unsure what is or isn't new.

cinder vessel
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finally got around to watching the 15 min Anthem vid posted earlier, and halfway through they...they really took on the mission design of a Destiny mission. That is, you interact with thing, AI partner has to take a moment to do thing, in the meantime here's some enemies to blast

brisk merlin
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because that's exclusive to destiny

cinder vessel
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what i mean is, it doesn't help Anthem set itself apart

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and even if we were to set aside comparisons, that's just boring activity design in any game imo

gaunt hare
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Elite has some alien like fauna

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on planets

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flora*

iron inlet
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My PoGo team is getting gud

austere lance
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@cinder vessel Actual gameplay sets Anthem apart, lol. That and the much-better RPG mechanics of it

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Abilities aren't some boring thing that takes forever to charge, you get way more choices for abilities and they charge faster so you can do an ability-only build if you want. Especially once you have gear with Inscriptions that boost your cooldowns

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I feel like people are gonna make some mage builds for Storm 😄

brisk merlin
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I played the alpha and it was fun

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sorry im not supposed to give opinions

austere lance
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Alpha was the tutorial with locked gear 😂

jade lake
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lol

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anthem is the appetizer before the inevitable D3

brisk merlin
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im excited for D3

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and the other DLCs

rigid haven
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I hope D3 doesn't come out

jade lake
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bungie like $$$

brisk merlin
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activision

jade lake
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actuall

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u rite

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more them than bungie

austere lance
#

Anthen>Destiny by a mile. Much better RPG mechanics and free DLC and cosmetic-only mtx

brisk merlin
#

its not even out yet

jade lake
#

^^

austere lance
#

Luckily I'm in the Anthem Discord and watch all the gameplay videos devs post there 😉

brisk merlin
#

I'm on there too

austere lance
#

Plus they lifted the gameplay embargo from a bunch of streamers and they've all been posting vids

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Datto did a gameplay vid with Interceptor, lol

brisk merlin
#

and byf

austere lance
#

Yee

brisk merlin
#

GOD IDK WHAT TO CHOOSE

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I love the look of the interceptor because bouncy boye

austere lance
#

Datto just spams flip-kick 😂

brisk merlin
#

but I always play mages in games like this

austere lance
#

Storm has a stupid amount of elemental abilities

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Plus his shield gets boosted when he's flying/hovering

brisk merlin
#

Sound, what's your origin tag?

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I need more friends on it lmao

austere lance
#

I'm on Xbox

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😢

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Wish cross-play was a thing

brisk merlin
#

they did say "maybe" to the cross play thing

austere lance
#

I'm going Ranger all day, that boi can lay down some hella single-target DPS @brisk merlin

cinder vessel
#

for what it's worth I was definitely thinking the way you play Anthem differs, but if the structure of many activities isn't great that concerns me a bit

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I get the sense the writing may hold together with Anthem more than it did with Destiny though, so that should be interesting

austere lance
#

The streamers that have played it said it's more fun to play solo than Destiny is because the dude that talks to you in missions is way more entertaining than a Ghost 😄

#

They haven't shown off any of the Elder content yet, which is apparently the Hardcore-RPG endgame stuff

#

I'm gonna make a mean-ass Ranger build like the one in the loot dev stream, that "hovering increases cooldown speed" Inscription his rifle had would be nasty with a few of Ranger's abilities/gear

raven frost
teal mason
#

so first hours of JC 4 has been fun

#

got some lag spikes every now and then and the graphics looks less saturated than JC3 but I fuckin love the new grappling hook shit and that's all that matters

teal mason
reef storm
#

Oh - there's a release date!

#

Yay

full pivot
#

i think i figured out why all my XV2 mods broke the other day; new DLC came out and i didn't have it 😅

#

they need to stop updating that game already ffs

reef storm
#

@rigid haven Yeah - let me make sure it's still F2P to that point

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But I do know it's restrictive as hell.

rigid haven
#

I suppose that's to be expected if you're playing a game for free

reef storm
#

True

#

There you go

#

So yeah, restrictive as hell, but it lets you experience a good piece of the 2.0 storyline

rigid haven
#

Ooo

reef storm
#

Yeah. I enjoy it. Just rerolled a new character to play through again.

rigid haven
#

I've just heard it has different combat from the usual FF games

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Though I suppose that's a given since I have no clue how a turn based system would work in an mmo

austere lance
#

I'm enjoying Ark

reef storm
#

I'mma DM you a link Woop.

jade lake
#

im so sorry soul

austere lance
#

It's stupidly fun, it's like adult Minecraft 😂

gaunt hare
#

I got drunk and bought Hitman 2

jade lake
#

goddammit

gaunt hare
#

Hm?

jade lake
#

i was joking

#

i heard hitman 2 is pretty good

gaunt hare
#

Yes, it seems fun, I just shouldn't be spending 30 bucks

#

Could be worse though

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The other game I bought while drunk was much, much worse

echo hill
#

sometimes drunk you just wants to buy sober you a gift

jade lake
#

i bought fallout 76 sober

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i have bought everything sober actually

#

never not been sober lmao

gaunt hare
#

I bought minecraft

#

Don't do drugs, kids

jade lake
#

i still hate myself for buying 76

echo hill
#

minecraft is fun tho

gaunt hare
#

Ehhh I bought it for ps4

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my sister got fun out of it though so no harm

#

I don't care about minecraft, especially not without mods.

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My cousin bought 76 because he loves fallout and he never finished it

jade lake
#

its so bad

echo hill
#

minecraft is bad??

jade lake
#

i thought "how bad could it possibly be??"

echo hill
#

😮

jade lake
#

no 76

echo hill
#

ooh okay

#

minecraft is hella fun

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every once in a while

gaunt hare
#

I don't like Minecraft very much. Wouldn't call it bad, but I don't care for it.

jade lake
#

i have never played mc

gaunt hare
#

Only have fun playing with my sister

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Some friends bullied me into buying it before I remembered I never play with my friends anyway

echo hill
#

im so glad i grew up playing minecraft instead of fortnite

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omfg

jade lake
#

fortnite ew

#

stop

gaunt hare
#

Oh, I much, much prefer Minecraft to Fortnite

#

I consider it a better game.

jade lake
#

ofc

echo hill
#

blackout best br

jade lake
#

fortnite is hardly that good at all

#

kids fuckin DEVOUR it though

gaunt hare
#

I think its a bad game. I don't think Minecraft is a bad game.

jade lake
#

i feel bad for the parents

gaunt hare
#

Also Minecraft has one of the better video game soundtracks

echo hill
#

indeed

jade lake
#

yee

echo hill
#

nostalgic for me at least

gaunt hare
#

Minecraft also represents indie games exploding

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while fortnite represents microtransactions, battle royale, flossing, and Ninja

#

In terms of trends in gaming.

jade lake
#

and shit

echo hill
#

I despise ninja aeyes

austere lance
#

I'd say I grew up playing Minecraft but I was like 14 when it released, lol. I didn't really get the hype for it

echo hill
#

i started playing in uhh

#

2011

#

i think

#

i was 10 at the time

austere lance
#

When it released? 😄

echo hill
#

it came out in 2010

winter yew
#

I started playing mc when I was 12

#

I think

echo hill
#

i still play it occasionally

austere lance
#

I don't think I even heard about it til 2011 tbh

echo hill
#

my friends and I had a server about a month ago where we built this crazy cool farm village

gaunt hare
#

Even when kids I've been around play it, like at family events and things, the kids playing minecraft go "look at this castle I built!"

echo hill
#

it was awesome

gaunt hare
#

kids playing fortnite go "KILL THAT ***DAMMN ******" -dabs-

#

I don't know how I made the word do that

#

I was trying to censor bad word

austere lance
#

LOL

jade lake
#

metal gear solid 2 > anything

gaunt hare
#

bloodborne > anything

jade lake
#

overrated

#

souls series is so much better imo

gaunt hare
#

bloodborne > abutchera

jade lake
#

well anything is better than me

#

so

gaunt hare
#

bloodborne > metal gear 2 > anything > abutchera

jade lake
#

facts

echo hill
austere lance
#

The only Souls-like game I've really enjoyed was Ashen, lol. I didn't even like Dark Souls itself 😄

echo hill
#

wait shit

#

a few days after

gaunt hare
#

See??

#

Minecraft was good for the kids

echo hill
#

twas bueno

gaunt hare
#

Good for developing minds

fluid hare
#

It’s very good.

echo hill
#

indeed

austere lance
#

Remember when people thought Minecraft was the cringey game for kids that was ruining gaming? Then Fortnite BR came out, smh

gaunt hare
#

I always thought they were full of it though

#

even back in the day

austere lance
#

They're eating their words now, lol

#

"We're sorry, bring it back!" 😂

gaunt hare
#

Anything kids like becomes "cringey" because kids are cringey

#

The dancing is really bad though.

fluid hare
#

It’s not original dance moves either.

#

Flossing is from the ‘30s, I believe.

gaunt hare
#

Haha I heard Carlton was suing fortnite

fluid hare
#

They stole his dance.

gaunt hare
#

They did but he's not going to win

#

probably

fluid hare
#

I’m not sure if he copyrighted it though.

austere lance
#

I'd say Fortnite BR is bad but honestly it introduced an entire genre to a lot of people in a fun way. The gameplay mechanics were pretty bad for awhile but after they tuned a bunch of stuff it just became simple BR game with building mechanics

gaunt hare
#

I think he's going by the fact that he did it on the show and the show is copyrighted

fluid hare
#

And dances.

gaunt hare
#

The legal precedent is not good for him though, I hear

fluid hare
#

Oof.

austere lance
#

The dance shit is pretty bad, lol. Hell, the basic dance is stolen from Scrubs

jade lake
#

all of the dances are from somewhere

austere lance
#

My boi Turk was doing that dance long before Fortnite was a twinkle in Epic's eye, lol

fluid hare
#

Scrubs is a pretty good show, from what I heard.

gaunt hare
#

everything in fortnite is from somewhere except the building

austere lance
#

God I miss Scrubs

gaunt hare
#

It was okay. Didn't age well for me though

austere lance
#

The real problem is Epic going from making badass games like Gears of War to........Fortnite

gaunt hare
#

I don't really like Blezinski's style

austere lance
#

Gears is the only series of his I've played 🤷

gaunt hare
#

the "HECK YA DUDE HARDCORE BLOOD AND GUTS CHAINSAW ON A GUN" -guitar noise-

austere lance
#

I bet you love DOOM 😄

gaunt hare
#

New DOOM is pretty good

austere lance
#

And that wasn't the entire point of Gears, lol. They had a pretty good story and some great characters

gaunt hare
#

a key difference is DOOMguy doesn't talk

#

I did not care for the story and characters of Gears at all, even if they had a great voice actor for main character

#

I really wished DOOM 2016 let you barge through the story as fast as possible

#

I hope the new one lets you do that

jade lake
#

play dusk

#

you will love dusk

austere lance
#

Gears had hella good characters, there's a reason there's books based on the series

gaunt hare
#

Ohhh

#

I had never heard of that

austere lance
#

Dusk looks wild

gaunt hare
#

That looks pretty sweet

#

There's books based on every big video game series

#

its that $$$

jade lake
#

dusk is the fucking bomb dude

#

its so damn good

#

better than doom 2016 imo

gaunt hare
#

I wish I could play dusk. Not on ps4

jade lake
#

and i love doom 2016

gaunt hare
#

haha

#

live was better

echo hill
#

any time killer games you guys recommend?

austere lance
#

Go find me a CoD or Battlefield book, lol. The only ones I can think of are Halo, Assassins Creed, Mass Effect, and Gears. All of which had great stories

echo hill
#

something i can kill a few hours in but not get super invested?

austere lance
#

@echo hill Far Cry Primal

#

It's stupidly fun

echo hill
#

what about like point and click games?

austere lance
#

You're talking to a guy that only plays singleplayer games nowadays, trust me 😄

echo hill
#

haha

#

noted

echo hill
#

Do I smell a fellow Zombies fan 👀

austere lance
#

That's a comic book, lol

gaunt hare
#

No I was just showing him there's a call of duty book.

#

Still a book

echo hill
#

oh rip

#

ill go back to my club

gaunt hare
#

also an uncharted book

austere lance
#

I meant actual books

gaunt hare
#

book for any video games

echo hill
#

there are several halo books

#

and comics

gaunt hare
#

Umm they're called GRAPHIC NOVELS

#

sir

#

I do love zombies though, bee

echo hill
#

😄

gaunt hare
#

I've seen most zombie movies

#

Train to Busan was great

echo hill
#

o i was talking more CoD zombies specifically but i do like zombies in general as well

gaunt hare
#

Zombies is the only CoD I enjoy playing

#

I still don't have black ops 4 but its the first CoD game thats made me slightly interested in years

echo hill
#

have you played BO4 zombies?

#

its a fun game

gaunt hare
#

I kind of want to play it but no money. I want to try the BR and the zombies

echo hill
#

maybe not worth full price, but fun nonetheless

gaunt hare
#

I might get the Horizon Zero Dawn DLC

echo hill
#

😮

#

that game is fantastic

gaunt hare
#

Have you played DLC

echo hill
#

i have

gaunt hare
#

was it worth ten bucks

#

i bet it was

echo hill
#

very

austere lance
#

@gaunt hare People love Uncharted story too, lol

gaunt hare
#

ya, I'm already convinced really.

echo hill
#

i really hope they make a sequel

gaunt hare
#

I don't like video game stories in general.

echo hill
#

the ending was a bit of a cliffhanger...

gaunt hare
#

I'm a bit tired of sequels, but Horizon is at least original and not to mention that game really has a vibe where it feels like the second one could be even better.

echo hill
#

agreed

gaunt hare
#

Like if they made the human on human combat deeper

echo hill
#

or even just more DLC

gaunt hare
#

Did they confirm a sequel in the works?

echo hill
#

i think a horizon zero dawn with a sort of Spiderman-esque human on human combat would be amazing

gaunt hare
#

looks like it. I mean, I don't seen an official confirmation there, but isn't playstation lifestyle a sony website?

echo hill
#

not sure 🤷

#

Horizon Zero Dusk xD

gaunt hare
#

It's not. I'm surprised they can call themselves playstation lifestyle without sony claiming copyright

#

Horizon surpassed NMS as biggest selling original IP

#

on PS4

#

I bet there will be a sequel. That game blew up.

rigid haven
#

Did NMS even sell well to begin with?

gaunt hare
#

Very, very well

echo hill
#

yeah like 3 million copies right?

rigid haven
#

Huh

echo hill
#

on launch

gaunt hare
#

and then back to top of charts on all three platforms after NEXT

#

Lotsa moneys

austere lance
cinder vessel
#

aayy

jade lake
#

or its their questionable game design lmao

full pivot
#

I mean for people who keep buying from companies like this maybe its fair to question their intelligence? 😜

jade lake
#

^^^^

#

this lmao

full pivot
#

But seriously though I'm gonna quit trusting any of these cookie cutter AAA studios who create generic games with generic Hollywood-esque stories, microtransactions, and are so egotistical they constantly call their customers stupid when they release unfinished garbage

#

Its too much of a trend lately

jade lake
#

facts

full pivot
#

I mean I never really trusted Bethesda Blizzard or Bungie but everyone used to attack me for it haha

jade lake
#

nah i dont blame you, its even worse when you realize all three of those are slowly becoming more and more like EA

full pivot
#

Its concerning me that the reaction doesn't seem the same

cinder vessel
#

i look at a lot of their games and just think i don't have time for any of that and move on, lol

full pivot
#

I mean I don't understand why the Bethesda thing is even shocking to people, except that they had blinders on

jade lake
#

fallout 4 is when i became really wary of what they were doing

#

and then

#

it happened

full pivot
#

But at the same time I didnt love Fallout 3, New Vegas, or Skyrim as much as most people

jade lake
#

fallout 76 happened

#

and it was real

#

real bad

cinder vessel
#

i was wary from morrowind

#

when i couldn't go for a couple hours without it CTD'ing

jade lake
#

i was a kid when i played NV and 3 so nostalgia was the only reason i liked those 2

full pivot
#

They did well with Wolfenstein and DOOM although even in DOOM there were concerning things

jade lake
#

im sure if i played them now for the first time i would hate them

cinder vessel
#

and then 3 just hardly even runs outside of vista

jade lake
#

the thing is they didnt even make wolfenstein or doom, they just published it

#

bless up id games

cinder vessel
#

this^

jade lake
#

🙏

full pivot
#

"I was a kid when I played NV".... You have no idea how old I feel now lobosCry

cinder vessel
#

Bethesda Game Studios aren't great

full pivot
#

Well that explains things then

cinder vessel
#

but a lot of the devs under Bethesda as publisher are decent/good

jade lake
#

i dont they ever have been, they haven't shown any progross whatsoever since morrowind

#

their games have become LESS stable lmao

full pivot
#

I enjoyed morrowind

cinder vessel
#

they're good at building settings and creating an atmosphere but then you can't really play their games very well

full pivot
#

But I quickly got to the inch deep concept

#

And then when Oblivion claimed to be more and wasn't I got wary of TES

cinder vessel
#

tbh they would probably be much better at developing walking sims

#

everything breaks when they try to develop more involved gameplay systems

#

so stick to a good world to explore, some very basic interactions, voila

full pivot
#

Having buggy engines in good games wouldn't curse them imo

#

Its the lack of concern over fixing them, continuing the trend, avoiding the criticism by making it a joke, etc

jade lake
#

i think its gonna be very funny if outer worlds is more stable than BGS games

#

obsidian putting the extreme salt on the wound

full pivot
#

Its like how blizzard changed WoW in the expansions, and although people liked the changes and there was an argument for trying to not get stale...

#

The way they attacked the vanilla servers is when I lost respect for them

jade lake
#

its too bad blizzard is declining so fast

full pivot
#

Its that arrogance of telling your customers that they're wrong

jade lake
#

diablo immortal was that wake up call for everyone else

cinder vessel
#

sometimes the customers are wrong tho, but yeah i follow

jade lake
#

"dont you guys have phones??" fuck off man

full pivot
#

They are wrong sometimes but its how you approach that too

cinder vessel
#

mmhmm

#

like the phone response

#

that was just oof

#

people don't go out of their way to attend a games convention for mobile games so far as i'm aware

full pivot
#

Honestly at this point I think being quiet and patching the game a la HG should be followed more

cinder vessel
#

or at least, not a blizzard style games convention thing

full pivot
#

Because these ppl don't seem to have good PR ppl

#

Well I'm hating this trend too

cinder vessel
#

at the same time tho the quiet approach has its own faults like, "wait have you noticed these consistent reports about mission being broken/flaky snapping/etc."

#

so it's pretty fucked either way

full pivot
#

CnC on mobile, Diablo on mobile, Aliens on mobile

cinder vessel
#

I wouldn't mind mobile, if it hadn't just nuked its feet out from under itself to the point that seemingly the only viable business model is annoying shit

austere lance
#

"I was a kid when I played New Vegas"
Say what now

full pivot
#

I think that is the problem yeah

#

Mobile is just too sleazy

cinder vessel
#

the only mobile games i tend to play are the ones i can directly buy

jade lake
#

i was like 11 when it came out @austere lance lol

cinder vessel
#

💀 😩

full pivot
#

And since these companies seem already in love with some of those practices its hard to believe they ain't going to it for that reason

jade lake
#

damn that was 8 years ago

#

gonna be 9

#

fuccck

full pivot
#

I'm just never gonna say my age here again hahaha

austere lance
#

Mobile is sooooooo easy to put minimal money into and get ungodly amounts of money out of if you're a dev, lol

cinder vessel
#

What's wild to me is that these companies then think it wise to even...advertise the game...To some extent

full pivot
#

Kinda wish the Switch would kill mobile

cinder vessel
#

I understand why obviously

jade lake
#

i agree aethena

austere lance
#

@full pivot Same

full pivot
#

You can even use it at a high security worksite!!

jade lake
#

there should be a price cut, it would totally kill the mobile market

austere lance
#

Now that we have Diablo mobile and Aliens mobile, lol

cinder vessel
#

But like...If they want to avoid backlash, best approach is to quietly release mobile title & let it rake in the ill-gotten dough

jade lake
#

just slaughter it

cinder vessel
#

only reason i haven't bought a switch is def. the price

full pivot
#

Well and I agree people dont want it to be the feature at a convention unless its like a mobile convention

cinder vessel
#

coupled with the fact that Nintendo rarely has sales aeyes

jade lake
#

LA noire being full price can zuc my donk

full pivot
#

Cheaper than my last phone tho

jade lake
#

phones are so goddamn expensive

#

before we know it its gonna be 2 grand for a fucking phone

cinder vessel
#

but like, don't you have one /s

jade lake
#

lmao

full pivot
#

I bought the cheapest one I could too to use at work because I aint pay in $800 to accidently destroy it trying to remove the cameras

#

I ain't gonna play Diablo on this tho lobosGame

cinder vessel
#

how about dungeon keeper /s

full pivot
#

Id rather play puyopuyo tetris on my switch

cinder vessel
#

fuck yeah

jade lake
#

i just need that animal crossing

#

but nintendo is big dummy so they havent announced the release yet

cinder vessel
#

if u put ur switch along an animal crossing u get animal crossing

jade lake
#

oh fuck

#

gonna go do that rn

cinder vessel
#

lol

full pivot
#

My friend played through all of harvest moon over a couple weeks at work in SD haha

cinder vessel
#

😮

full pivot
#

This was after she wouldn't buy a switch cuz "it was too expensive"

#

So I played mine with Stardew Valley in her face on a really boring 12 hour shift, and she had one the next day mwahaha

cinder vessel
#

lmao

jade lake
#

oh god u just reminded me to play more stardew

bronze wind
#

Yeah wtf abutchera

full pivot
#

Yeah I should prolly play it more at work

bronze wind
#

Why are you even here

#

You should be playing stardew right noW

jade lake
#

zogg

full pivot
#

Id go get it but I'm trapped at this table 😭

bronze wind
#

Destory the table

#

--flip

nocturne parrotBOT
#

flips a coin and... HEADS!

bronze wind
#

Wait no

#

--flip @full pivot

nocturne parrotBOT
#

(╯°□°)╯︵ ɐuǝɥʇǝ∀sW

full pivot
bronze wind
full pivot
gaunt hare
#

Is that lobos?

full pivot
#

Yes

wide warren
#

Anyone play the Black desert?

full pivot
#

Not me I don't do mmos

austere lance
#

Has never played or watched gameplay for Stardew

wide warren
#

Hmmmm

jade lake
#

@austere lance play it

austere lance
#

No u

jade lake
#

im jk i wont force you to do anything

#

😏

full pivot
#

Have you seen harvest moon?

austere lance
#

Isn't just a weird pixelated farming sim

full pivot
#

Cuz you have a good idea then

austere lance
#

No

#

I want Moonlighter

jade lake
#

its like moonlighter

#

but like

#

so much better

#

actually its quite different

gaunt hare
#

stardew is the dark souls of harvest moon

austere lance
#

Moonlighter with romance and town building, lol

jade lake
#

you can leave 🚪

cinder vessel
#

i want...to play rez/tetris effect with synced controllers strapped to my shoulders to massage me with cool beats

jade lake
#

@gaunt hare

#

🚪 🏃

gaunt hare
#

My God what have I done

cinder vessel
#

YOU HAVEN'T WATERED YOUR CROPS

austere lance
#

Wot

#

Does Stardew have dungeons

jade lake
#

in a way yea

gaunt hare
#

Dude Stardew is the Harvest Moon of dungeons

jade lake
#

there are 2 dungeons

#

one is required to unlock the other tho

austere lance
#

Whenever I see people talk about it they just talk about the farming and romance 🙄

jade lake
#

its tedious but incredibly relaxing and overwhelmingly varied

#

the romance is whatever imo

#

the same reasons i love animal crossing are the same reasons i love stardew

gaunt hare
#

Video games do romance so badly

jade lake
#

atmosphere and music

austere lance
#

Witcher 3 did good with Yen romance

gaunt hare
#

There's only a few romantic films I like, even

#

Ehhhhh

austere lance
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Triss was 🤢

gaunt hare
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I agree, but I can't take romance in Witcher 3 too seriously because it looks too much like a porn

austere lance
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LMAO

gaunt hare
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Ah, a fellow team yen

austere lance
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Triss is a mega-thot

jade lake
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witcher 3 is overrated

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😳

austere lance
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Shani is fuckin bae tho

gaunt hare
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🚪

jade lake
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no i wont leave

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😩

gaunt hare
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best video game romance?

cinder vessel
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the witcher games are the most expensive pr0n games ever produced

austere lance
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Lol

gaunt hare
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last of us DLC

austere lance
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It's all about Shepard and Tali

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Don't @ me

gaunt hare
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ya that's a good one

austere lance
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If you pick Ashley you're a fuckin square

gaunt hare
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For romance movies my favorites are Her and Annie Hall, which are very, very male centric picks

cinder vessel
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her is a romance movie

austere lance
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Liara is just b8 for horny teens

cinder vessel
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?

gaunt hare
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Ya, at least, I'd say so

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most of the movie revolves around love and relationships

austere lance
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Only commies pick Asari romances

gaunt hare
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literally the whole movie is about relationships

cinder vessel
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lol

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at S0ul

gaunt hare
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it doesn't END well

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but I'd still say its a romance

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none of the romances I like end well anyway

cinder vessel
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nah it ended fine

gaunt hare
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hence my pick for Last of Us DLC...

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It ended beautifully

cinder vessel
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it was about AI maturation & independence, lol

gaunt hare
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buuut

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ya, I agree

austere lance
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Remember when we finally got to see Tali's face and it was just a fucking Google stock image

cinder vessel
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lol

full pivot
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I remember how everyone else freaked out

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And I was like idc

cinder vessel
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i don't remember any of it

austere lance
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Like, I romanced her through 3 games for that? 😂

cinder vessel
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because i wasn't paying attention to it

gaunt hare
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I gotta say, sounds pretty bad

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seems like something that should be designed

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if they show her face at all

jade lake
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👮

austere lance
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They never showed her face in-person, she just gave you a picture of her on her home planet and she seriously looked like someone from a stock image

gaunt hare
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Shame about Andromeda

cinder vessel
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tfw she was never interested in u & this was her last ditch attempt to get u to realize it

austere lance
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She gives you that after she risks her life boinking you tho

rigid haven
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What

full pivot
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Well I was femshep so it wasnt an option

austere lance
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Garrus or gtfo

cinder vessel
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garry?

full pivot
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Nope

austere lance
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Omg, imagine romancing Mordin 😂

wide warren
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Whos garrus? You mean best birdman?

full pivot
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I choose neither as I always do

gaunt hare
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Romance in video games is so bad.

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I would love a great video game love story.

full pivot
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I didnt romance anyone on my first play through the cuz the options sucked

austere lance
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If I was female I woulda hella romanced Garrus, he was a fuckin bro

rigid haven
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Romance in games is usually a side thing unless it's a romance game

full pivot
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We became best friends but that's about it

wide warren
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I liked the sniping challenge in me3

austere lance
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Gotta romance Legion 😂

gaunt hare
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Ya. I would like a video game that isn't specifically a romance game but is built around a love story

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It's going to happen!

full pivot
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I kinda hate love stories so I'd pass

gaunt hare
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Just might take a few more years

wide warren
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I like shooting things. Like deadspace

austere lance
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I'd say I'd romance Kaiden but I let him die in the first game, so I had Ashley's OP Soldier powers with me through all 3 games

full pivot
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Kaiden is lame

gaunt hare
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I'd like to see a game do for a relationship like what God of War does for father and son

rigid haven
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Automata has a cute love story kinda

wide warren
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Isnt kaiden the one who exploded? I forget

gaunt hare
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I'm not surprised, but I haven't finished that one

full pivot
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I also ain't into guys usually anyway lobosShrug

wide warren
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I know someone exploded

jade lake
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oooo

gaunt hare
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The bants between the two characters is good

jade lake
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explosions are cool

austere lance
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Kaiden stayed behind to set off the bomb in ME 1

gaunt hare
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Doesn't have to be a guy and girl. Any story of a relationship

full pivot
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I wanted to kill them both off

austere lance
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Out of the optional deaths in all 3 games I only lost Kaiden and Grunt

wide warren
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You mean you told him to stay with the bomb cause f em ;)

full pivot
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They both become even more obnoxious in ME2

austere lance
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I felt bad about Grunt, he got ganked by evil bugs

wide warren
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Did you...cure the genophage, only to have all that work undone by andromeda?

full pivot
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The only optional death I ever had was Zaeed cuz I told him to fuck off on his loyalty mission

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Its not undone in Andromeda; it takes place before it

wide warren
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Oh, i got the timeline wrong then xD

gaunt hare
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Andromeda isn't after ME3?

austere lance
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I was max Paragon through all 3 games

stuck violet
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anyone waann play NMS wit me

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pc

austere lance
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I had to sacrifice Legion tho 😭

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And Mordin 😭😭😭

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Poor Legion. Absolute Unit

full pivot
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Andromeda is before ME2 I think?

cinder vessel
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thought it was like between 2 & 3 when ships launched, but once reached, not sure if it's way after or what

wide warren
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I thought it happened after cause the cryostasis an all but i skipped alot of context

full pivot
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Well more like; if the mission started before the genophage is cured, then by all accounts for those people involved in Andromeda; its not cured yet

full pivot
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I didnt play far enough into it to really be sure so I could be totally off target haha

meager panther
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@ripe frost

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See this is not a scam

full pivot
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That looks like it cost like $200mil to make

meager panther
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Because it does cost

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And it works

ripe frost
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GTA V works too

meager panther
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It cost a billion dollars to make and market