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silver sparrow
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big work blowup πŸ˜„ 😒

bronze wind
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Haha yeah no rush, I'm gonna pick it up as well later on

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It's fun so I'd like to know if you think so too πŸ˜„

winter yew
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Is Moonlighter the Stardew Valley-esque game?

bronze wind
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Uhh

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Not really

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You raid dungeons at night and sell the loot in your shop

winter yew
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Ah

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Yeah that's the game

bronze wind
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There are big bosses and the dungeons are procedural

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No farming or anything tho

winter yew
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I remember seeing it a while back when it released on Steam.

bronze wind
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Yeah

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I got it on release, or close to

winter yew
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It got compared to Stardew Valley which is why I ultimately didn't buy it.

bronze wind
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I guess the idea of heading into the dungeons is similar

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There is no farming at all

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Day/night cycle tho

winter yew
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I guess I'll give it a chance then.

bronze wind
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but you can ignore that, only thing that matters is daytime is when then shop can open

winter yew
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No idea why people were comparing to Stardew Valley then.

bronze wind
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Maybe because of the dungeon mechanics

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Although I didn't get far enough with the Stardew stuff for it to be similar at all

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It's way more fleshed out in that aspect too

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Like

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You unlock parts and there's economy and all that

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But some of the rarer parts can be used to craft elemental weapons, or more powerful base power weapons

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Then you can enhance them via the alchemist

winter yew
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Oh nice.

bronze wind
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There's an okay amount of depth, probably more since they've added stuff since release

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Like before, when you beat a boss in a dungeon, their roomw as just empty next time you beat that dungeon

meager panther
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When is star dew coming to android

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Any dates?

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It's on iOS already GWhighpolySansDab

bronze wind
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Which sucked because you needed to grind that dungeon multiple times, and you didn't get a reward for beating it again

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But they changed that and added challenges or something to the boss room after you've completed the dungeon

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So beating the entire thing over again is more fulfilling now

winter yew
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I'll add it to my wishlist so I don't forget about it.

bronze wind
winter yew
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Because I will, so many games I've forgotten about.

bronze wind
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That's their dev roadmap, they just released the Adventure milestone a week or so ago

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Although

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hmmm

winter yew
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I'm sold on NG+ tbh

meager panther
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It sounds like gas lighting lol

bronze wind
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Last one is for Halloween

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So idk

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Seems like they did a halloween mini update instead

raven frost
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hmmmmmmm...

winter yew
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πŸ€”

topaz wedge
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yeah right

raven frost
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well I'll be damned, it boots up

topaz wedge
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eeeh?

bronze wind
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I'm confused

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Did you not buy it?

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lol

raven frost
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I got invited into the F76 beta and wondered if the game would boot up

winter yew
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o i c

raven frost
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I knew it wasn't going to let me play from the start, I was just curious

bronze wind
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Oh Icey

silver sparrow
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so @bronze wind it seems that even though i make money from selling my loot, i can't make enough to "buy" a merchant

plucky mesa
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Apparently they're giving away Destiny 2 for anyone logging in with a pre-existing BattleNet account.

jade lake
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old news

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but yea

bronze wind
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@silver sparrow It ramps up as you head to new floors, and learn the prices of things

jade lake
bronze wind
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Once you beat a dungeon, you can advance and make a lot more as well

silver sparrow
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all i have is the pendant so far

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so at least i can keep from dying

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playing on hard

jade lake
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how much is moonlighter on switch

silver sparrow
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25

jade lake
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oof

silver sparrow
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i also picked up Hidden People πŸ˜ƒ

jade lake
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ive been playing twin snakes on dolphin

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hardly as good as the psone version

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but still good

austere lance
limber harness
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listens to lifelight at 75% volume

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SMAAAAAAAAAAASH

jade lake
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im gonna wait for a free weekend for 76

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its too bad

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i really wish it was good

austere lance
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@jade lake Make sure to hack infinite health for yourself

jade lake
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on PC the player speed is determined by FPS

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what the hell is wrong with bethesda

austere lance
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There's already mods for it

jade lake
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wrong thing

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i posted this up top but its a great example

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this isnt even a hack

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just jimmying with the files a bit

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ini files*

austere lance
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If you have Wireshark you can basically use it as a Game Shark from the old PokΓ©mon games, lol. Hack yourself items, HP, weapons, armor, etc. And you can disconnect people from your game! @jade lake

jade lake
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jesus fucking christ

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fallout 76 is not a funny joke anymore bethesda

austere lance
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Yeah, look at that Reddit post I shared up there ^

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@jade lake Isn't it great, lol?

jade lake
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it is

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i was really looking forward to 76

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shame

winter yew
raven frost
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According to BeamNG.drive, not only is my installation corrupted, but it's also got a shitload of cache files built up from years of having the game installed

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oh now I can move my user folder too, cool

silver sparrow
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@bronze wind do i need to do the dungeons in order? i ii iii iv v?

bronze wind
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Yeah you can't access the future ones without beating the previous

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So you start in the golem dungeon and will move to the forest, then desert, then tech

iron inlet
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I enjoy this post from DTG

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it's essentially "DON'T YOU DARE BE KIND TO OTHERS, BE KIND TO ME!"

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but said in a semi-nice way

bronze wind
jade lake
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so basically im

light cairn
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tracer

jade lake
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monky

jade lake
cinder vessel
jade lake
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some kind soul gave me a pc beta code for 76

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maybe r/fallout isnt so bad

cinder vessel
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weren't you pretty meh about it?

jade lake
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i played about an hour on my friends xbox, but i think trying it for myself might be better?

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im still expecting disappointment

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also it was a code for PC

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so its gonna run like absolute shit

rigid haven
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A free game is a free game

jade lake
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^^

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actually im not sure if the beta gives me the game at launch

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probably not

cinder vessel
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wouldn't think so but 🀷

rugged dove
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GUYS

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IT'S

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ALMOST

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HERE

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Also I don't know why the video didn't embed that's weird

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But yea, if anyone here plays Warframe, Fortuna this week

rigid haven
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So I heard

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So uh

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What is fortuna

rugged dove
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If you play Warframe it's impossible to have not heard about it by now

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The next big open world update

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The rain of life to bring us out of the content drought the game's had since The Sacrifice

cinder vessel
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hm

rugged dove
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Which they announced a while ago with an amazing fucking song

rigid haven
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Ohhh

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Open world stuff

rugged dove
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Yus

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Was announced back in July iirc

rigid haven
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God damn

rugged dove
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whenever the last Tennocon was

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Venus' open world

rigid haven
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Is this what the ARG thing was about?

rugged dove
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Yes

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You seriously haven't heard about Fortuna until now?

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That's almost impressive, honestly

rigid haven
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I've heard of the name, no details though

rugged dove
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That's still very surprising

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The announcement back in July cause giant hype in the community, then it kinda died down to a sort of dull but constant buzz, and then the hype revved back up with the last Devstream where they confirmed that it'd was coming this month :P

cinder vessel
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if you don't pay attention to Warframe it's easy to skim over the details

rigid haven
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I've been trying to get into it but too many games

cinder vessel
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think i heard about upcoming content, but since i don't play Warframe i've not looked into the details

rugged dove
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I mean, yea, if you don't actually play the game, then yea it makes sense that you'd not be in the loop

cinder vessel
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but i'm more or less in the same boat as Hit or Miss

rugged dove
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Which is understandable. So many games, so little time

rigid haven
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I guess I never miss, huh

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Especially with next week

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Next week is papa Woop's birthday, too ibukiheheh

rugged dove
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Mhm

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But yes, honestly, I'm kind of exploding with hype right now. Prolly wont be seeing much of me when the update finally drops :P Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

rigid haven
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Hahaha

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I hope you have fun with it!

rugged dove
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I am going to :3

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Moa pets, kitguns, hoverboards, and so much more stuff

rigid haven
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Hoverboard?? Holy shit

rugged dove
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Yus

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Just imagining all the maneuvers and shit you could do combining parkour, hoverboard, and archwing makes me excited

cinder vessel
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πŸ€” single player spinoff when?

rugged dove
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Well, Warframe's technically a spiritual successor to an old game called Dark Sector

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Dark Sector was originally going to be what Warframe is today, except single player, but due to various factors, Digital Extremes, the devs behind the game, made a lot of creative compromises with it

cinder vessel
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i know more about the background to Warframe than Warframe itself, lol

rugged dove
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lol

cinder vessel
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but really, i'd love to dig into its weird universe in a spinoff game or something

rugged dove
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Why not play the actual game instead tho? :P

cinder vessel
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it's constantly updated, always online, and basically wants to monopolize your time because the more you play the better the chances you'll spend some money

i prefer to play games at my own pace, without having to catch up on updates, and without feeling tempted to spend money. i like the single entry fee approach for games more, personally

rugged dove
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Except Warframe's monetization is not like that at all

rigid haven
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Apparently you can make the premium currency in-game

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So it's true f2p, which I really like

rugged dove
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You can, I'm in the process of typing out a way too long explanation of it :P

rigid haven
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Hahaha

cinder vessel
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it's free to play, it's generally hoping you'll spend something

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Note i didn't say it was the extra gross exploitative kind

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just that it hopes, as one would expect, that you might spend some money on it

rigid haven
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True

rugged dove
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Long story short, anything that's exclusively paid for is cosmetic, you can earn premium currency by trading things that aren't too hard to get with other players, and the only things that are gameplay related that requires premium currency is inventory slots, but even then with the starting amount of platinum they give you, you're pretty set up until you get to the point where you can start earning your own plat through trading

cinder vessel
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and i just want to spend a flat amount for games, personally, and not be tempted with odds & ends

rugged dove
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Warframe's basically the shining example of how any free to play game should be monetized, really. Though I can still kind of understand your point there

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Unfortunately for you, though, I highly doubt there's going to be any sort of spinoff game in the Warframe universe :P

cinder vessel
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boo

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at least maybe they have action figures πŸ€”

rugged dove
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So I guess it's either play the f2p game and be slightly tempted by the shiny fashion store, or just watch people on youtube :P

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And, yea, there kind of are action figures I guess. Though not really action figures. More like collectible statues :P

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And a plushie of the Excalibur frame :P

winter yew
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The first FO76 "cheat" mod is already uploaded.

cinder vessel
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lol

winter yew
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@rugged dove I know I’m suuuuuuper late to this conversation but I am so HYPE for tuna πŸ˜‰

teal mason
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well no one ever told bethesda to make a mp game with a broken and highly exploitable engine

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just getting what they deserves I'd say

iron inlet
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@alpine gull please don't advertise other servers πŸ˜ƒ

cinder vessel
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winter yew
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Well, I guess I know what I'm playing this weekend.

iron inlet
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65 straight days lmaoo

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that's 453 hours in 65 days 😩

light cairn
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i didn't even know it went purple

cinder vessel
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πŸ’œ

bronze wind
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πŸ†

cinder vessel
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😯

bronze wind
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😏

cinder vessel
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🀸

topaz wedge
teal mason
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it's ok, I don't play games by Chinese companies anyway

topaz wedge
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The point is: we already have facial recognition, so why not use to regulate a citzen's private time? it seems like they're more afraid of wasting labour resource than anything

teal mason
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It's China, they put a point system on the people's behaviour, I would never be surprised by the Chinese destroying their own privacy

jade lake
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so i came home expecting to get at least 10 minutes in the 76 beta

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the bethesda launcher doesnt even open

winter yew
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πŸ€”

topaz wedge
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On a side-note, to make them give the game for free just because the game's anniversary ... Yeah, they want to attract their player base.

jade lake
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i already own it, not really my cup of tea

gaunt hare
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Ya I own Destiny 2 on PC and PS4 now without every paying for it

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and I don't even want it

gaunt hare
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Also, I prefer coffee

winter yew
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Lmao

gaunt hare
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A cup of tea isn't really my cup of tea.

winter yew
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There’s some people out there that think Destiny 2 went freetoplay like Warframe or whatever

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I’m like bro do you even read

cinder vessel
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🀦

gaunt hare
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@cinder vessel why face palm?

light cairn
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probably the f2p comment

gaunt hare
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Oh good just checking that my amazing joke didn't get a facepalm

thorn ice
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Facepalms aren’t my,

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Cup of tea

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I now have the mysterious urge to reverse liveth

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πŸ€”

rigid haven
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THY ONLY LIVETH ONCE

cinder vessel
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the f2p comment
but tbh
destiny would probably be better off as f2p

thorn ice
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yeah

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fortnite br probably would be nowhere as popular as it is now if it wasn't f2p

cinder vessel
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all these games trying to be games as a service should just say screw it & go f2p

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not interested in buying something that can be switched off down the line

thorn ice
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aka my wi fi

winter yew
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destiny would be better off consigned to the abyss

winter yew
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PUBG is free on XB1

brisk merlin
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As it should be

topaz wedge
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PUBG is coming to PS4 soon

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Not that I care tho

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argh, I hate to type while people is speaking to me

winter yew
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lol

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who cares about pubg

winter yew
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Nobody which is why they made it free I guess.

topaz wedge
thorn ice
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That game is the sh**

winter yew
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Yeah it's quite bad

bronze wind
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lmao

jade lake
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so how about that game and watch controversy

bronze wind
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What controversy?

jade lake
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just look up game and watch

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should be dozens of articles

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it’s a mess

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on both sides

bronze wind
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ahh I see now

rigid haven
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What an odd thing

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All over a feather

bronze wind
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Lol it's easy to diminish it

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But it's not just "a feather" to some

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I can't speak to this from that perspective because I'm not Native American, but I can see why someone would be upset. Whether or not they change it isn't going to be a deciding factor for me though.

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As some people pointed out, they have changed this to a generic "bandit" in the past, so it's possible that's all they'll do this time, which is fine.

jade lake
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my take on it is: get rid of it. which they are doing

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what’s with all the spaces lol

bronze wind
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Not sure haha

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And yeah it's east enough to get rid of I'd imagine

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Just a few frames

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Less of a reason to be upset about its removal than keeping it

jade lake
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ye, people complaining about it are incredibly dense

bronze wind
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It's like, "I know this upsets people and it's easy to change but it doesn't upset me so who cares"

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The people it upsets? lol

meager panther
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Pretty much the whole world after 2012

topaz wedge
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hmm ... "Why there's not a single female avatar on NMS? If HG doesn't introduce a female avatar soon I'll ask for a refund"

bronze wind
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That's not super related tbh

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And if they choose to leave it, which they won't, I'll still get the game honestly. Just sucks for people who may take offense to it.

topaz wedge
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The point is: people must stop shaping games over their real lifes

meager panther
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But then half of game industry would cease to exist

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Looks at rdr2

topaz wedge
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Well, people also complain if a game is too realistic

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Looks at rdr2

meager panther
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Reddit had a drama about the KKK in rdr2 already

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πŸ‘Œ

bronze wind
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I mean being offended by something that offends you and asking for it to be changed in a thing that you would otherwise enjoy isn't ludicrous

topaz wedge
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Well, you have the option to boycott it

bronze wind
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There are extremes on both sides and that's not okay in most cases but in this case it's just a few frames of an animation

meager panther
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One side:killing KKK is wrong despite all their wrongs. Other side:. It's just damn NPCs covered in white texture

bronze wind
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Which is easy to change, and has been done in the past for the actual game it originated from

meager panther
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Oh like how that Lilo and Smith movie had frames changed after. 9/11

bronze wind
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Recognizing that something is offensive and removing it, especially when it literally makes no impact on the game content, isn't a huge issue lol

topaz wedge
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I get where you're coming from Zoid, for a company its better to fit some criterias and avoid losing money than keep their own game distinction

bronze wind
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In this case there isn't even distinction to lose

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It's a feather on a dude that plays for a few frames of a single animation

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But that animation happens to be an offensive depiction of some people's culture

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And doesn't actually serve to improve the presence of the animation

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Again, keep it or not, I'll get the game, although I'm sure they'll remove

topaz wedge
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To be honest I'm still trying to find something regarding that controversy you're talking about, but I'm only finding one about Netflix, Ciri and The Witcher 3

bronze wind
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If you google game and watch there are a few articles at the top

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They said they'll change it tho so not much to really debate I guess

topaz wedge
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LMAO, that's why I couldn't assimilate that discussion, I posted a link from TW3 and though it was still related, but I see now

bronze wind
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ohhh lmao

topaz wedge
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damn, I lost one msg that abutchera posted

sterile vortex
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What if I get offended by people taking undue offense to something? Then what? Do I win??

bronze wind
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Is that the situation here?

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Are you offended?

winter yew
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I'm offended you even asked that question.

jade lake
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I think the 76 beta is tomorrow

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i hope it’s good

light cairn
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heh

jade lake
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im expecting more fallout 4

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which is what it looks like

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hopefully they at least succeed on that end

bronze wind
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It's like midgame FO4 right away

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Best way I can describe it

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Just minus most NPCs obviously

light cairn
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also super easy hacking

bronze wind
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They "fixed" the FPS thing apparently, just capped it

light cairn
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lol

cinder vessel
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the, uh, recent post on the Fallout 76 subreddit about incoming fixes doesn't sound promising tbh

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no clear indication of when certain fixes are coming in, like within x months of release or anything, which with Bethesda makes me more skeptical

jade lake
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the "fixes" seem to just be pussyfooting around and not actually fixing anything

light cairn
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at least they doubled down on saying that fov changing is impossible without breaking animations

cinder vessel
jade lake
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the potential for 76 looks like it can be extremely fun, and the foundation for them to build on it IS there. its so incredibly annoying that they're scrambling to fix all this

cinder vessel
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if that's a fundamental engine problem concerning the FOV then oh man is that engine more of a mess than i realized

jade lake
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they should have delayed the game

light cairn
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i bet it'd be a blast to play with just friends without worrying about griefing, but no private servers at launch hurts it

cinder vessel
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they should have built it on a different engine, frankly. they're trying to piggyback multiplayer on an engine that seems it really wasn't built for it. at all.

jade lake
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im gonna try the beta, because free stuff is always cool, but im not paying full price until the game is genuinely fixed

light cairn
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smart

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i wish i could try the beta

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but i think they realized they wouldn't sell as much if it was public πŸ˜›

jade lake
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someone on r/fallout was awesome and gave me a free code, maybe r/fallout isnt so bad

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other than that neat encounter, its a pretty shitty sub

cinder vessel
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lol

jade lake
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i can see a free weekend happening really soon lol

cinder vessel
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i was offered a code by someone here but turned it down, considering i didn't think my PC would meet the specs. plus even if it did it sounds like the game's not in a stable enough state for that to matter

jade lake
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apparently the optimization is a total hodge-podge. a friend of mine said he got 70 frames on a gtx 970, while what im hearing is that 1080s get like 45-60

light cairn
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i'm pretty sure the engine is more cpu bound

jade lake
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i heard they capped it at 63 which is odd

light cairn
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that doesn't sound right thoinking

cinder vessel
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yeah why not 76 /s

jade lake
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the fov is also capped at 90, which im actually cool with

light cairn
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i need 180 /s

jade lake
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i can barely handle anything more than 100 lol

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i tried playing wolfenstein 2 at max FOV and i got a headache

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not smart lol

light cairn
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there was that one doom mod that gave you 360 view

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hurt so much

jade lake
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oh god

cinder vessel
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lmao

light cairn
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oh wait no it was quake

cinder vessel
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that sounds much worse

light cairn
jade lake
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thats putrid

cinder vessel
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...I kind of don't mind it?

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Huh.

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I thought it'd be much worse

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That Mercator projection tho, oof

jade lake
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i think it looks noticeably nasty when its on a monitor

jade lake
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is it me or do rockstar open worlds get way to much praise

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they all just feel like more of a backdrop to the story than anything

cinder vessel
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tbh i've never really found them to be interesting, even from a setup perspective.
"Go visit...A city! ...A boarding school & its surrounding town! ...The old American west!"

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And typically as just an ordinary person, more or less

jade lake
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the story itself is pretty fantastic

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but the world is all looks

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nothing else

cinder vessel
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eh, i'm too much of a fantasy/scifi type to get into them i think

jade lake
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ye

north glacier
jade lake
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rip diablo

wheat wharf
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haha i love those videos

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that guy's laugh is just the best

winter yew
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oh god

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you're right X3

topaz wedge
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Lmao, way to not go Blizzard, seriously who there came with that brilliant idea of making a mobile Diablo?

cinder vessel
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stockholders

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it's gonna make bank, as long as they go through with it

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because regardless of all the fussing over it, you know people will play & pay for it

gaunt hare
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Blizzard has said they are going to focus more on mobile games than they have been.

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Also, Diablo 4 is in the works

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It is mind blowing though that they chose that moment to announce a Diablo mobile game

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Literally the announcement is the whole controversy

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because it has such awesome clips.

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If they announced the mobile game in not such a center stage way, and just after a video showing the mobile game showed a super brief "Diablo 4" title card

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No one would have cared.

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Also like why choose to use such a center stage to announce a mobile game. You should know that people who pay money and travel are PC gamers

cinder vessel
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🀷 I mean I'd think they're general Blizzard fans, so would be happy with other announcements there. I honestly can't imagine going to an event for a single game, but that's just me

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Anywho, if you want a good cheap game Venusian Vengeance is on sale on Steam for the lowest possible price the dev could set it to: $0.51

gaunt hare
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Right but a lot of these people are blizzard superfans. We know they are superfans because they took the time to leave their house, get on a plane, and go to an event. That means all of them play games on PC, for the most part. Also, Diablo players have been begging for a sequel for a long time.

cinder vessel
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when haven't they, lol

gaunt hare
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Just seems really dumb to not forsee this.

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And so easy to avoid.

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Just announce it like some bonus.

cinder vessel
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I'm only half-kidding there, seems like Blizzard fans are always waiting for some new entry and it's kinda weird to me with so many other games

gaunt hare
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Instead they teased Diablo announcement, got a room full of Diablo fanatics, and announced a mobile game.

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So dumb.

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I felt bad for the two dudes on stage.

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Could see them sweating

cinder vessel
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They'd also said before that that they didn't have like a main entry to announce tho from what I gather

gaunt hare
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I think it's because blizzard has a very signature style

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Like fromsoft

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All their games have a similar... thing

cinder vessel
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blizzard's style is basically apple's style

gaunt hare
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So people who like one of their games tend to play the others.

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Ya, pretty much

cinder vessel
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take existing thing, put their coat of paint on it, get people going SLDKFHSDLKHFASHDF

gaunt hare
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Actually watching blizzcon, the fans totally reminded me of that brand loyalty thing

cinder vessel
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tbh that's probably exactly why they thought they could just announce a mobile game

gaunt hare
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What is Venusian Vengeance

cinder vessel
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It's a short little shoot'em up

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Pretty fun for what it is

gaunt hare
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PS Plus games this month are Yakuza Kiwami or whatever

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and Bulletstorm

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Both are fun, I think.

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I had never played either but I played those two games like all day

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Makes me want to get Yakuza 0

cinder vessel
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hard to go wrong with Yakuza, tbh

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wish there were more silly FPS games like Bulletstorm around

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if memory serves it has an arcadey vibe to it

gaunt hare
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It's my first Yakuza and I'm into it

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Bulletstorm is a pleasant surprise to me.

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The whole game plays arcadey because it was very slightly ahead of it's time

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using the arcade point system as the main point of the game

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Similar to Doom2016

cinder vessel
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forget. RPG systems.
bring. back. arcade. style!

gaunt hare
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You get cash to buy ammo and upgrades by killing in creative ways

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I also like how sunny and bright and pretty it is

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The dudes look gears of war but almost the whole game is during the day and colorful

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Instead of grimdark

cinder vessel
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not gonna lie, i'm pretty sure i looked past that game because of the character designs, lol

gaunt hare
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I love shooters that aren't cover shooters though, and though it's a great example of being a classic shooter, the Call of Duty health regeneration was a mistep in my opinion

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The would have been served much better by having you gain health from good kills, or health packs, or both

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Instead, if you take too much damage, you have to just stand behind something and wait.

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They have that whip that grabs things too, so they could have made a system where some enemies drop health packs, then you use your whip to snap up the health

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Keep the high pace violence going, the combos being chained

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None of this "oh they shot me too much, guess I'll crouch behind this box for a while"

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Dude holy shit

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CliffyB made Bulletstorm

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Man, that guys aesthetic taste is just awful.

cinder vessel
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lmao

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it really is

gaunt hare
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I think he's much better suited to level design and gameplay mechanics

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which he is quite good at

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And should leave aesthetic, characters and visuals to other people who aren't perpetually 14 years old, when it comes to those things.

idle saffron
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Bulletstorm was terrific - over the top dialogue and cliches - it was a perfect arcade shooter

cinder vessel
winter yew
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Isn’t Bulletstorm on PSPLUS this month?

topaz wedge
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Aye

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Yakuza Kiwami too

gaunt hare
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I definitely, definitely wouldn't call it perfect.

bronze wind
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You're perfect

gaunt hare
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😊

bronze wind
inland grail
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there a new game looking like ksp

topaz wedge
cinder vessel
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vroom vroom

rugged dove
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FORTUNA IS HERE

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

rigid haven
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Oh cool

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I'll have to update my game, then

winter yew
jade lake
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what is that

winter yew
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From the Warframe ARG server

rigid haven
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What are cache, scrawls and sigils?

cinder vessel
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tetris effect tomorrow, aayy

jade lake
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Friday tomorrow

rigid haven
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oH

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One week until Let's Go tomorrow

winter yew
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I'm sorry but if you don't play Warframe and don't know what those icons are on the screenshot there, then I can't bother to explain lol

silver sparrow
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what is a war frame

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a picture with soldiers in it?

winter yew
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yes

willow crypt
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No PS4 release date for Fortuna yet?

rigid haven
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They look like helmets

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Also I don't know, my Warframe updated but I haven't check it yet

willow crypt
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I hear it's just PC right now

winter yew
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They aren't helmets lol

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100 Ducats (used to buy stuff from the Void Trader Baro Ki'teer) 5 Orokin Cells (crafting component of all kinds of stuff) 1 Orokin Catalyst, 1 Orokin Reactor (both used to double the mod capacity of weapons/Warframes), 5 Fieldron (used to craft mostly Corpus tech weapons) 3 Vitus Essence (redeemed for special mods from the Arbiters of Hexis faction) 1 Warframe specter blueprint (crafts an AI controlled deployable copy of your Warframe to fight alongside you in missions) 3 Forma (used to change the mod polarity of your mod slots or used to craft certain weapons) and the K-Drive skin (hoverboard) and that symbol in the middle is a wearable sigil (cosmetic, logo you can recolor, place on the front or back of your warframe)

rigid haven
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Ooo

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HOVERBOARD OH BOY

winter yew
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it's pretty fun

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and you can build your own eventually

rugged dove
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Yea, and they give you a sort of stock one that you get to use until you get around to crafting your own

winter yew
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it took me a minute to realize that lol

rugged dove
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Same here :P

winter yew
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i looooooove the voice acting for the npcs in Fortuna

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especially Rude Zude

rugged dove
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Yeeeeeee

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It's all so good

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DE really outdid themselves

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Even better than PoE

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Not to mention that one of the new operator cosmetic sets looks like something out of deadspace

winter yew
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yea

rugged dove
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Nabbed that one off the market real quick

winter yew
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WHere do I get those Training Debt-Bond things

rugged dove
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Bounties

winter yew
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OH ok

rugged dove
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Also, BEING ABLE TO ACCEPT BOUNTIES WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK INTO TOWN

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so much yes

winter yew
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I was doing a bounty then got distracted by the K-drive and those markers that pop up

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I forgot what I was supposed to be doing and I shot something and failed a bounty lmao

rugged dove
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lmao

winter yew
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x(

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I guess I should pay attention

rugged dove
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I also like the new helmet designs of the new enemies

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I hope they port some of those to some of the other corpus enemies

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Also those slight UI changes like the little loading tick

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So nice

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Another really nice part of the update is that we finally get to see the turret from the Valkyr Prime trailer in game

winter yew
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oh yes

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sooooooo that one bounty mission where you have to collect cases is kinda ehh

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maybe will be better with a full party

rigid haven
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Ha, full parties are for people with friends

rugged dove
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I havent had trouble with it :P

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Just spray gunfire towards the second one while you're capping the first

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That's how I do :P

winter yew
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Later, I gotta go to work

limber harness
brisk merlin
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UwU

iron inlet
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I've been trying to get into Blighttown in DS1 for the past day and I keep falling off the fucking platforms

iron inlet
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The worst thing about Dark Souls (even the remastered) is how clunk the controls are

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you try and run and it just rolls

winter yew
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Isn't there a mod to fix the controls?

cinder vessel
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πŸ‘€ ooh

winter yew
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Yesss

silver sparrow
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when i saw the headline i thought Crunch was the name of one of the characters in the game

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😊

teal mason
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Tbh you can't really truly "avoid" the crunch without being small enough and indie imo

silver sparrow
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true

teal mason
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that's just a problem when you have to deal with actual distributors and a set release date

charred badge
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This sorta deal. Not necessary for nms, of course.
The real benefit for simpler games is just comfort

glass tartan
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i'm ps4, not steam

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but ya, on steam i do config my controls. could probably figure out how to link my ps4 controller and the computer

charred badge
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Works over simple bluetooth

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Even uses the gyro

glass tartan
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ya i assume it'd be an easy sync. just gotta get around to doing it

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With the pS4β„’ wireless controller adapterβ„’ it even extends audio to the controller ports

glass tartan
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that's actually a feature i've been using a bit more recently.

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(now that i got an okay pair of headphones)

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It's nice with family

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Most of my game time lately is after wife+kid head to bed, so headphones are vital if I don't want to play muted

glass tartan
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same

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i learned nms has some real chill music most of the time

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The things you can do with the touchpad via steam are pretty nuts too

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Got your basic mouse, touch menus, touch radial menus...

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Can set one side to one thing and the other to something else...

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So yeah. Got hand issues, so M+K gets painful in a matter of minutes.
This lead me to the joys of figuring out comprehensive control schemes that fit into muscle memory well.

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It's surprisingly finicky!

glass tartan
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i have an mmo mouse with about 20 something buttons.
with patience it's really nice to use with many games

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it's nice because i can set everything to operate one handed. leaving the other hand free to swat people or things

charred badge
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Yeah, I have one of those too. Fun to mess with, but still hurts.

meager panther
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Voice control would be better

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And move cursor using eye

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Both hands now free

glass tartan
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not if you're trying to play quietly because you don't wanna disturb the fam

meager panther
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glass tartan
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they are still working on controls which use brainwaves for control. but i don't think those are ready to hit the mainstream

charred badge
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Voice Attack is a fun idea

meager panther
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Idk star Citizen has pretty hilarious face tracking

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😩

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Star citizen is pretty hilarious

glass tartan
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voice controls are one of my least favorite ways to play a game

meager panther
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Me too

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But could be the future

charred badge
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Watching streamers try to park a spacebike in their trunk

meager panther
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Lol

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But it is impressive

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It's game for next generation

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Oh yeah. It's a neat tech demo.

meager panther
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2020-2030

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Basically full span of star citizen

glass tartan
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wait, so they've actually released something?

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I like how they're hyping a system for... Not loading things that are far away

glass tartan
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i thought star citizen was just a scam

meager panther
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There will be a announcement next month

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On release date

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Of stuff

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They're seemingly pushing updates as slowly as humanly possible

meager panther
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TBH the hate is becoz the dev process is completely transparent

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And actual basic systems keep getting pushed back in favor of fancy stuff

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The hate is also due to their ridiculous monetization

glass tartan
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that's what has me a bit riled up, i'll be honest.

meager panther
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Usually all this dev stuff is kept under wraps for the first decade of dev time.except since it's publicly funded...the dev process is being shown tranparently

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Nobody would care if it was just taking forever

glass tartan
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how monetized it is, and it's not even a game yet. at least not as far as i know

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It's like what happened when Ark started pushing DLC while in alpha

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Except.. multiply the cost of content and the outrage by factors of 100

glass tartan
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star citizen might be a good game if/when it ever comes out

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The profit reports are kinda nuts

meager panther
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I think star Citizen isn't profitable

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Becoz those who buy have already bought it

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😩

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That's why they keep pushing new ships

meager panther
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They gotta push that after releasing sq42

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And separating permanent ownership of them

meager panther
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I backed it already

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Sq42

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So by December we will probably get a release date for it

charred badge
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I feel like sq42 is just an implementation of that thing Eve did

glass tartan
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what is sq42 and "that thing"?

charred badge
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Moment

glass tartan
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eve does lots of things

meager panther
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Sq42 is probably like nms but better is guess

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It's just a offline part of the star citizen universe

glass tartan
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i'm still not holding my breath for a star citizen release

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Eve: Dust 514 (stylized as EVE: DUST514) was a free-to-play first-person shooter developed by CCP Games for the PlayStation 3. Dust 514 took place in New Eden and was directly connected to CCP's game Eve Online. There was direct interaction between the two; player actions in ...

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Sq42 doesn't look at all like nms. It's an fps

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NMS is a fas

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Faff about simulator

glass tartan
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dust

meager panther
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Eh it's still land on planet ,explore and go to New planets etc

glass tartan
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funfact: dust is why i bought a ps3

meager panther
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More or less like nms

charred badge
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Do you gather resources, build bases, scan things?

meager panther
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Kind of

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There are loot areas with minerals etc

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On planets

charred badge
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From what I saw it was just raiding ships/bases

meager panther
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You have exo crafts

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You can land on planet using ship

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Drive using exo craft

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There are creatures biomes etc

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Even if sq42 is a let down

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Star field by todd

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😩

charred badge
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Yeah. I mean I'll check it out if it ever releases. It just reaks of pyramid/Ponzi scheme

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Iron Men looks like a fun game

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(Anthem)

meager panther
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Link?

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Oh

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Ok

charred badge
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And the Warframe update is fantastic

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Still humming the goddamn sci-fi chaingang song

long gale
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For anyone who plays Warframe, has the captura mode button been moved?

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Oh, found it.

winter yew
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@charred badge loving the new update

charred badge
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G and X, iirc

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T to advance time

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Turn off grain filter for not ugly photos

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Can place text and set up a camera pan also

long gale
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Taking a photo with my space dog was a case of "Can I get my Kubrow to stand still?"

charred badge
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Immersion

long gale
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Game needs to let you command your Kubrow to stand in a spot

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I'd also like to say my Kubrow is at about chin height next to my Valkyr

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I think he's the tallest Kubrow I've ever seen.

winter yew
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my friend was buzzing around me lol..

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i wonder what was making that sound

charred badge
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Is that a challenge?

winter yew
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My favorite thing about Kubrows is how they grow in scale compared to the enemies they are pinning down

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like, get a kubrow to pin down an Ancient

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suddenly get a horse sized kubrow

long gale
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What location is that, Turkey?

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winter yew
#

that's Fortuna

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its just outside the entrance to Orb Vallis

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πŸ˜„

long gale
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Ooh. I'll need to look into getting to fortuna

echo hill
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guys what are some good switch games?

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other than botw

long gale
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Mario Odyssey is good if you like the franchise. Kirby: Star Allies is quite fun

meager panther
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All of Mario games are great

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Also Splatoon

charred badge
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smash bros is coming soon

long gale
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Tiny Barbarian is enjoyable if you like difficult 2D pixel platformers

charred badge
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there's a spiritual sequel to suikoden too

long gale
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Shovel Knight is also on switch iirc

charred badge
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it's also getting a bazillion ports

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warframe, even

long gale
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The bulk of the switch is ports and indie games

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Splatoon 2 is really popular

echo hill
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lol i havent even beat botw maybe i should work on that

winter yew
rigid haven
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Pokemon Let's Go is a good switch game

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I need people to play with me

long gale
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Is that game out? I lost track honestly

bronze wind
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Not yet

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Like a week

rigid haven
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Yes

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Exactly a week

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For me at least

charred badge
#

Ugh. Stomp is just a less flavorful Blue Man Group

winter yew
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now now

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dont be hating πŸ˜›

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I was just making a slight comparison πŸ˜›

charred badge
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Watch a video of blue Man group and see if you can honestly say I'm wrong

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:P

winter yew
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I know who they are

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but honestly STOMP was around long before Blue Man Group

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or maybe i'm wrong

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i dont know

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either way

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I remember hearing of Stomp only because of the constant commercials for it on TV in the 90s

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Didn't hear of Blue Man Group until the 2000s

echo hill
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you ever play a game and you're like genuinely good at it and it makes you feel good

winter yew
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yes

echo hill
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is very fun

winter yew
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That's me with Lumines

echo hill
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CoD for me

winter yew
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I am totally garbage at any FPS

echo hill
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haha

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it depends for me

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im good at cod but some other fps games i suck ass

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like csgo

winter yew
#

also Geometry Wars Dimensions

echo hill
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never heard of it

long gale
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I do almost complete melee in Warframe

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I main Valkyr with a pair of nunchucks and just shred shit

winter yew
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@long gale that's what I do sometimes in Warframe, but the last few patches before Fortuna dropped fucked up melee channelling so I started using my guns mainly, and learned to survive without Life Strike x)

long gale
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Oh really? Interesting

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Channeling like

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Where your weapon glows?

winter yew
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yes

long gale
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Because I never used that

winter yew
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there's some mods that do things when you're doing that

long gale
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I completely forgot how

winter yew
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Life Strike lifesteals enemies when you channel

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and kill them

long gale
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I've been just basic attacking shit with my nunchucks.

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I'm a living meat tenderizer.

winter yew
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you need to get yourself some Dual Kamas my friend x)

long gale
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What I want are a pair of claw weapons

winter yew
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Dual. Kamas.

long gale
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I made myself a lectra whip to try out but I've got no melee weapon space. Also, I'll need to Google them.

winter yew
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short range slash weapon

long gale
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The scythes? Interesting

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I need to find a real balance

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Fast but medium range

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Short range leads to me getting swarmed I think

winter yew
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oh uhhmm

long gale
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Heck I don't even on any more

winter yew
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I recommend a Serro

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if you want a good long range melee

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looks like a trafflic light lmao

long gale
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I'm just trying whatever looks like it would work

echo hill
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damn now i wanna go home and play bo4

long gale
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I'm excited to try out the lectra when I get a free slot.

winter yew
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ig

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ohh

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uhmm

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some of the chain-whip weapons are pretty nice too

long gale
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I haven't played in a year

winter yew
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err Blade and Whip i mean

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Jat Kusar

long gale
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Do we have no shave November moustaches this year or did they stop doing that?

winter yew
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I havent seem 'em

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"The Jat Kusar is a Grineer Blade and Whip with rocket boosters attached, giving it innate Heat damage."

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making it good for dispatching infested

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There's also the Lacera, and the Mios

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Lacera deals electrical, and Mios, well, it deals primarily Slash damage.

echo hill
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i hav to shid

winter yew
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watch this to see how the Blade and Whip handles

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they are pretty nice

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I'm a fan of healing return

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Doesn't cost anything, and works with quick melee

winter yew
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go like 2 minutes into that video

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Gives ~14 hp per status effect per enemy hit

winter yew
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looks like he's not added a Fury mod to it

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which doesn't really matter if you're playing as Valkyr buuuuuut

charred badge
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Berserker?

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It has high crit

winter yew
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yeah that would be good

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I believe you get the Jat Kusar from clan research

long gale
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Hard to find a good picture of the moustaches but they were great

winter yew
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yeah they were fun

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The dullahan mask seems to be permanent

long gale
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If they stopped bringing them in I honest to goodness hope they start selling them and donating the proceeds to charity

winter yew
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Right

charred badge
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They have the blood cancer ribbons

long gale
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The moustaches in particular were only available in November. They were deleted from you after.

winter yew
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Holy frick that riven tho

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Would be great for Fortuna runs

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Only deleted if you changed your cosmetics

winter yew
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Especially the higher level bounties

charred badge
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Some people still have them, iirc

winter yew
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I still have the candy cane skin for scythes lol

long gale
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Friend I never changed my cosmetics, the day after the update the moustache just wasn't on my face after I logged in

rigid haven
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Dual scythes??? What???

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How do I get???

long gale
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This was also like.. years ago. Probably 2014

winter yew
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The dual kamas are in clan research

winter yew
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You need to be in a clan that has researched the blueprint

rigid haven
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I have no idea what that is but I will LEARN so I get those SCYTHES

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Oh

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Hmm

charred badge
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There are also regular scythes

rigid haven
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Are they big?

charred badge
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Kinda mediocre right now, but you're early game anyway.

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They're axe sized

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Not anime

rigid haven
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I don't know how big that is

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Scythes are like a polearm so they should have a pole and a blade

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If they were like

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The size of two people with a blade as thick as one, that's be fucking amazing

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But I know my standards are too high

winter yew
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Also

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You have to build two single kamas to build the Dual version

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They are fairly cheap to build so it’s not too terrible

long gale
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The scythes in Warframe are like small swords.

rigid haven
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I'd love scythe weapons Woah

winter yew
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If you want a stupidly big sword go for the Galatine

long gale
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Not like big ass grim reaper or anime type scythes

winter yew
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The kitanas are pretty nice too :p

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But I prefer the hammer weapons

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Jat Kittag is my personal favorite

long gale
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Anything that isn't gained from clan workshops

winter yew
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If you don’t have a clan you could easily find one on the Recruiting chat in-game

long gale
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Last time I joined a clan, the dicks deleted it overnight and "merged" it with their friend's clan

winter yew
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People always looking for new members

long gale
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There went about 40,000 credits at least that I wasn't getting back

winter yew
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Geez

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Yes

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For the key right

long gale
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It was a clan of like 4 people, so I was paying for a lot of the upgrades

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Then suddenly poof, overnight. No warning.

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I gave up on most clans that day.

winter yew
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Geez

long gale
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I've got a kubrow to maintain, I can't take that bullshit

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*This was also when it was more expensive to buy stabilizers.

winter yew
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Right well I thought they said they were doing away with those

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Maybe not I dunno lol

long gale
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Are they? I know they're a lot cheaper now

winter yew
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Maybe that’s what they opted for instead

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Anyway I need to get off here

long gale
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Later!

winter yew
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Nice chat

long gale
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o/

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Worth noting that pets will automatically go to stasis if at critical stability, even without the upgrade

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And now we have pet vacuum

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Couldn't have full range universal vacuum, nooo

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3m is better, but still

rigid haven
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I just use the staff thingy that you get at the start

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Good fuckin staff

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it has a prime, too

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do you have a stance for it?

rigid haven
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Uh

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uhm

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I don't know what that is

charred badge
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the top center mod slot that adds capacity instead of costing it

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they also give you combos

rigid haven
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Oh damn

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I honestly haven't played much

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I think I beat the first mission where you kill man and that's about it

charred badge
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Auras work similarly for frames, but they have benefits that affect the entire party instead of combos

rigid haven
#

...

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There's a lot more to the game than I thought

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the game is extremely deep

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conveniently, the game also has a veritable army of video creators that love explaining it all

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I believe iFlynn is recommended for newbie guides

iron inlet
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I've always regarded the Souls games as bad games because they're hard just to be hard and it's very vague where you're supposed to go, you're just supposed to guess

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having followed a walkthrough and had some good RNG (I got the BK Sword from the BK in Undead Burg) I've enjoyed it a lot more

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I just killed Nito, and I'll be going to Seath next, but it's a lot more enjoyable with a walkthrough personally

bronze wind
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Yeah honestly I enjoy how each playthrough can be different because of all of the hidden questlines with different outcomes depending on who you kill or what order you do things in, but a lot of the time it's just frustrating how arbitrary those things are

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And I'm a completionist so having to play the game more than once while paying attention to really specific details to make sure I can experience everything is annoying

cinder vessel
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I've always found them pretty blunt in where you're to go. Die really easily? Nogo yet. Make some headway? There's the path

austere lance
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Late-game RDR 2 is sad 😭😭😭

bronze wind
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That part is more or less clear, but once you've gotten some decent gear it's kinda unclear what path you're to take. Wandering around is only so fun when shit kills you all the time haha

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But I do love the games, just some things that frustrate me

cinder vessel
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nah i follow, i just have found that if something hits me really hard i set it aside till i can get through it more easily with better stuff or whatever, lol

bronze wind
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I think the only real thing I find annoying in any situation is invasions, specifically because of the attitude the fanbase has

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Yeah if I get mad I usually just put the game down too lol

cinder vessel
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oh, yeah, i haven't really played in online mode in forever

bronze wind
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I did PvP for a bit just to get better at it so invasions annoyed me less

cinder vessel
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oh i meant the in-game thing, i set it aside, but also the game itself if it's really being a dick

bronze wind
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Oh I know lol

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I just take it to the extreme

austere lance
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Why must this game have so many feels 😭😭😭

cinder vessel
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because you're a felt fellow

bronze wind
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After trying to play PvP competitively for like 13 minutes I decided to hop into the mindset of "friendly invader" lol

cinder vessel
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πŸ€”

austere lance
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And I thought the first Redemption was sad, smh

bronze wind
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Leon, by friendly invader I just mean I'd invade and hangout instead of shitting on people

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In DS3 I used Aldriches covenant so if I died I didn't lose souls or anything

cinder vessel
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I was just thinking there's an entire system for that tho, lol

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I forget what it's called, but y'know what I mean, where ya join in to help folks

austere lance
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I've officially finished all of the Honor missions for the camp, I think I'm close to beating the story. I'm already sad and I'm not even done yet 😭

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@jade lake fuck this game and its feels 😭

brisk merlin
jade lake
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im still in chapter 4 but I got spoiled the end game spoilers

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that sentence could have come off much better

glass tartan
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okay so deltarune is pretty rad

brisk merlin
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it is

cinder vessel
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tetris effect is also great

jade lake
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@glass tartan you just found that out??

rigid haven
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Also yeah, really good

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Shame it might take a bit for chapter 2

jade lake
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I played it 3 times over

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I don’t know why

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it was really damn good

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and no im not talking about the suzie default dance gif

cinder vessel
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why not

glass tartan
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no lalala, i'm still playing

jade lake
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Tetris effect

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more like

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Mandela effect

cinder vessel
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played it for a good few hours waiting on a call back for somethin' but never got that call, so some more play, lol

cinder vessel
light cairn
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i literally forgot that it came out even after reading how poorly it was received

cinder vessel
light cairn
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i feel like there can't really be "lingering mysteries" after a week lol

cinder vessel
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lmao someone's got a video up already with the audio & subtitles (I think?)

light cairn
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oh noooo

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i feel kinda bad because i imagine the dude had a really cool vision for this

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or maybe not Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

cinder vessel
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i genuinely can't tell from what i've seen of it

light cairn
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i'm ready for a n s w e r s

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maybe he just couldn't hire a sound designer

cinder vessel
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okay i've watched a bit of it and i still don't know what's with the main character

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in some scenes they describe him as deaf, sign to him as if he's deaf, then other scenes they just have...Relatively normal spoken conversation

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I know deaf people can learn to speak, but like...Isn't that typically pretty hard?

long gale
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Depends if the person was born deaf

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If they weren't born deaf, depending on when they lost their hearing they may have learned to speak already

cinder vessel
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Yeah, was thinking about that

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okay now that i've sated my curiosity about just wtf was going on in The Quiet Man...It was roughly what I thought from muted version, typical revenge story of sorts

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but also has a stupid as hell twist to it

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The twist is basically that the detective/cop guy (Robert?) was the main character Dane's dad, and he was an abusive asshole that blamed Dane for the death of his wife. Rob never let Dane get over his own mother's death, and so Dane turned into a fucked up guy that got involved with gangs and crime.

Rob at some point realized how much he fucked up and uses this woman (Lala) that's the spitting image of his wife, and Dane's mother, to try to reconnect with his son...By making it look like the guys that actually killed Dane's mother kidnapped her, so he'd go fucking ballistic and kill them. Then, Dane finally having gotten his revenge, would get over his mother's death and forgive his dad.

Despite his dad literally having just fucking manipulated him into killing two men, one of which he had become practically family with.

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i'm just sitting here like...what the fuck

teal mason
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If I ever heard of that game I don't remember it

cinder vessel
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it only just came out a week ago

teal mason
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Is it like Her Story

cinder vessel
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Nah, it's a brawler

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It's just that they released it with all the live action scenes & in-game VO muted for the first week

teal mason
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Oh I remember now

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Saw it from E3

cinder vessel
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Yeah, it's bad, and it's not any better with the audio...Which isn't surprising, but like...Someone genuinely thought they had somethin' great here and...Nah.

teal mason
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I think I didn't put my expectation score on it in E3 cos there ain't any gameplay footage lol

cinder vessel
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"Yeah let's make a brawler about the tragic story of a guy that's mom gets killed from two kids fighting over shoes and his dad blames him for her death and then tries to make amends by manipulating him into killing those two kids decades later."

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Like...Wat

teal mason
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So it's a brawler with live action footage?

cinder vessel
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Yeah

teal mason
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Reminds me of that one AVGN episode...

cinder vessel
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It cuts from live action scenes to in-game scenes for...reasons, I guess

rigid haven
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Weird

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I thought it'd take a more artsy approach

cinder vessel
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If this had been a movie it woulda been laughed outta the room before it even got funding to be made

teal mason
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Is it a Ubi gaem?

cinder vessel
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I have no idea how it got made as it is

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Square Enix

teal mason
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Ohh

cinder vessel
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They published it, some other studio, Human Head Studios, developed it

teal mason
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Then no it's probably never meant to be artsy

cinder vessel
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No, see, it's very clearly trying to be artsy and failing miserably

rigid haven
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Thought so

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Not many things succeed at being artsy

cinder vessel
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Like the FMV scenes have to be there for artsy reasons, it makes zero sense why they were done otherwise

rigid haven
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Maybe they didn't have anyone who could animate

cinder vessel
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And releasing it with the VO all muted? Clearly artsy move or somethin'

rigid haven
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Wait, they really did that?

cinder vessel
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No see this is where it gets weirder, they have in-engine scenes sometimes

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Yeah, they really did that. All muffled/muted for the first week

rigid haven
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Okay, yeah, definitely going for an art approach

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Hey, maybe in 10 years time it'll be known as a gem

cinder vessel
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One of the lines you hear after the patch is Dane's mother insisting they don't need words, which is I think why they released it as they did

teal mason
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Just like Harvester!

cinder vessel
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There's not even any great quoteworthy lines tho

teal mason
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Also all I'm caring about SE rn is DQXI on switch and JC4

rigid haven
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And if there were, you wouldn't be able to hear them