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teal mason
austere lance
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Some decent bundles in there for cheap

jade lake
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its too bad those castlevania games kinda suck

austere lance
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I've heard people like Mount and Blade

teal mason
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there are people who don't like M&B?

austere lance
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Lol

jade lake
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i hope the dueling system is better in RDR2

jade lake
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the wait for this game is reminding me of the wait for MGSV lol

jade lake
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this looks insane

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this is like little big planet on every imaginable narcotic

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holy shit

cinder vessel
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Dreams would really benefit from being on every viable platform

cinder vessel
jade lake
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these visuals are a total hit or miss, ultimately a miss, and bringing a self conscious look into that doesnt really change the fact its still a miss, i appreciate the effort from them, but it looks like its just another indie banking off that unlimited supply of 90's nostalgia.

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but hey thats just my take

cinder vessel
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yeah, was gonna say, for you it may be a miss. It works fine for me for the most part

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even just structurally that space looks way more interesting to me than some modern spaces I've seen lately ๐Ÿคท

jade lake
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idk it just feels somewhat lazy? i mean i understand where they're coming from, i grew up on the PSX Final fantasy's and while i love those, its realllly time to move on from it and for a good reason, but if it plays well has a nice soundtrack and writing, i'll check it out

cinder vessel
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eh, if moving on means pouring a ton of time into high res graphics that strain tech just to keep up with the joneses, i've no interest in that personally. I'm more interested in seeing a variety of art directions, which is what this is

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could they do it with a modern look, maybe, I guess? But then it'd just be a different thing

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like honestly i'm not sure what this but modern would look like

jade lake
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im not all about big budget pretty games either, but DQXI has super simplistic graphics yet still retains a beautiful look, obviously this is just an example, and a pretty unfair one now that i think about it. but yeah, who knows? it'll probably work out for the better in the end for them

austere lance
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The best graphics I've seen in a game I've played are in Battlefront II, I'm kinda behind videogame-wise tho

cinder vessel
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DQXI honestly has me a tad mixed in some ways. In some scenes and areas it feels like it doesn't mesh

jade lake
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some aspects look awesome, like the open plains and such, especially near the oceans. towns look iffy at some points tho

cinder vessel
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Have you seen the newer Star Ocean?

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DQXI never crosses into that territory for me, but sometimes it very much feels like it's right on the edge of that

jade lake
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the mobile game?

cinder vessel
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No, gimme a moment, will dig up a trailer

jade lake
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ah i see it

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yea i see where you're coming from

cinder vessel
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Very much like they have two clearly distinct art directions for the characters & environments, and the teams didn't really talk to each other

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Thankfully DQXI doesn't run into that as much, but in some spots & with some of the effects used, it cuts close imo

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One of my favorite examples of this sort of contrast & wtfness is probably Kingdom Hearts 2 and the Pirates of the Caribbean world, like holy shit that wasn't a great idea

jade lake
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^^

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that right there

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pirate world was so ehhh

cinder vessel
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just nooo

jade lake
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eww

austere lance
jade lake
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^^highly recommended if you've never played it

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not my favorite metal gear by a longshot, but an absolutely stellar experience anyway

cinder vessel
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I wish Kojima & his team would get the money from sales of it & not Konami

jade lake
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i wish konami ceased to exist

gaunt hare
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FucKonami

winter yew
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goes to play Spider-Man... 4GB download starting

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fuuuuuu

teal mason
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laughs in 300mbps downspeed

winter yew
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pfft

jade lake
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ive finally succumbed to playing dark souls

winter yew
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i cant get the hang of that game

jade lake
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im going to try, obviously going to get my ass not only handed to me, but shoved down my own throat

austere lance
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Which DS? @jade lake

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I'll pray for your soul if it's the first one

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Even if you get the remastered version you're still gonna get cucked, lol

jade lake
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Dark souls 1 lol

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copped it on switch

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im not ready

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but when im at work on break, or when im out of town not playing RDR2, dark souls is what i'll be grinding

austere lance
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You get the remaster?

jade lake
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i hear the switch version is technically the PS3 and Xbox version

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but its titled remaster

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sooo... yes?

austere lance
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Ok, lol

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At least it won't be a laggy mess like the original version

jade lake
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i heard the switch version can at least run blightown, so thats a start lol

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i remember watching my friends do blightown on his PS3, was a fucking mess

austere lance
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Yeah, that place is the reason I never beat the game

jade lake
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i think because its on the switch is the reason im going to beat it, even if it takes a few months

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theres a fine line between good, challenging game design

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and fucking bullshit

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dark souls seems to answer that by just saying "fuck it"

austere lance
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You say that til you fight the first hydra, lol

gaunt hare
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Dark Souls best game

winter yew
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Never got through the first boss

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In the first game

gaunt hare
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Ya they are hard

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I've beaten every one of them at max NG+ and beat Dark Souls 2 without dying.

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So ya.

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I'm kind of a big deal.

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Cant get past the third boss of Nioh though, no matter how often I try.

jade lake
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odd flex

gaunt hare
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You may have heard of me.

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DS2 is the easiest one to do it though.

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because of those lifegems

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I can't even come close in Demons Souls, Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3, or Bloodborne

jade lake
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well im good at mario kart 8 soooo

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lol

gaunt hare
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DS2 just requires patience and backing up if anything touches you

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in all the other ones you have to actually have the reflexes.

graceful dove
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i prefer the copy of tf2

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overwatch

gaunt hare
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I've finally been able to play Overwatch on PC

graceful dove
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xD

gaunt hare
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I love that game.

graceful dove
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OW is GOTY

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literally xD

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โค

gaunt hare
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I'm hard stuck in plat on PS4, have been for fucking years

jade lake
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OW has kinda lost itself recently

gaunt hare
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on PC I just started comp and I'm 2400

jade lake
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used to be a big fan but it feels like they dont really care anymore

gaunt hare
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I've seen people say that, but I think its better than its ever been.

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by a lot.

jade lake
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i think im just getting bored with it

gaunt hare
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This meta is really fun

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Ya, its already a game of attrition

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and heroes are slow to come out.

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so I can totally see getting tired of it after 2+ years

jade lake
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ye who knows maybe i'll get into it again later

gaunt hare
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but in my opinion they are doing awesome stuff. I love the focus on balancing and hero improvements

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like this Torb rework is great

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I thought they didn't give a shit during the Mercy meta though

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or SOMETHING. I don't know what happened there.

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That was so ridiculous.

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6 months of Mercy. Every game.

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It still boggles my mind. They fucked up so bad.

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Not even that they fucked up, just that they let it be a problem for so long.

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It was so horrible and boring.

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When they broke Bastion they fixed it after a week or two, or at least made it not game breaking

austere lance
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I prefer Paladins, lol

gaunt hare
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I've thought about checking that game out

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but then I thought "What if I like it?"

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then I'll either be playing a new overwatch or heaven forbid I'll be playing both

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How's the updating of that game coming?

jade lake
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paladins is kinda a joke

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its unfathomably easy

gaunt hare
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Isn't it a multiplayer game?

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So if it has a ranking system it SHOULD be as difficult as you want it to be

jade lake
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its a weird game

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i found it to be pretty easy, played around 20 hours

winter yew
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Yeah it's really easy

idle saffron
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No u

gaunt hare
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Does it have a competitive ranking?

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cause if you mean easy to learn, so is Overwatch

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but no multiplayer game should be "easy" with a proper ranked mode

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that's the fun.

jade lake
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OW is not easy to learn depending on who you wanna play

gaunt hare
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Playing people your level

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I disagree. I found Overwatch to be one of the most easy to learn multiplayer games I've ever played.

winter yew
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I disagree

gaunt hare
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Every character is just one way, all the time, from the beginning. No unlocking or customization

jade lake
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mastering ana took a hot minute for me

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but i generally suck at any game

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so

winter yew
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I disagree with that too

gaunt hare
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and you can pick any character so only a few have to click

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at first, anyway

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How can you disagree?

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Tracer is always Tracer

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same buttons, same abilities, every game.

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I mean I see how you can disagree with the "easy to learn" statement. Thats subjective.

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But in overwatch a character plays the same way every time. HOW you play them might change as you learn, but its easy to "get"

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And the objectives/rules are pretty much as simple as can be.

jade lake
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well when they changed hanzo that definitely set me back

gaunt hare
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In a game like Last of Us multiplayer, Battlefiled, there's custimization where you can change loadouts and things

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and in Battleborn you level up your character with skill choices as the match goes on

jade lake
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characters dont change in OW we know

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they remain the same

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no matter what

gaunt hare
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but in overwatch Mei has two abilities, two shooting options, one ultimate.

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That's why I think its so easy to learn

jade lake
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its all in a matter of learning how to use said abilities

gaunt hare
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I tried out characters until I found one that clicked, then played. I had a grasp on the game in fifteen minutes.

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Right, but that's every game ever.

jade lake
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yes but especially more so in OW considering those are the only cards you're dealt

gaunt hare
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Thats precisely why I think its easy to learn though

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Not a lot of cards.

jade lake
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ok

gaunt hare
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Does Paladins have like an upgrade as you play a match?

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and then it resets with each new match

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like battleborn?

jade lake
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nah

gaunt hare
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Thats the impression I got looking at gameplay

jade lake
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its a carbon copy of OW in almost every sense lol

gaunt hare
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Haha

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The dunkey video was great

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Part of why I never tried Paladins was it really, really looked like a blatant ripoff.

jade lake
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its shameless too, it knows its a piss poor excuse lol

gaunt hare
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Apparently the game was in development before Overwatch was announced

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so I don't want to say they ripped it off completely

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I do think its funny though that the devleopers of Paladins act like these comparisons are 'absurd'

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'totally ridiculous'

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like come on man

jade lake
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but was it a hero shooter when it started?

gaunt hare
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I do not know!

jade lake
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oof

gaunt hare
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That's a good question

jade lake
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i mean fortnite jumped ship after BR got popular and now look at it. Maybe after a good while they decided that hero shooters were the new "in". I mean the comparisons OW and paladins have to each other in terms of the characters are fucking uncanny

gaunt hare
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Haha

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apparently not too long ago

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paladins introduced a battle royale mode

jade lake
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wait??

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really???

gaunt hare
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According to Kotaku

jade lake
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thats fucking hilarious

gaunt hare
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The mode is called Battlegrounds

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Guys...

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come on...

jade lake
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they just do NOT care lol

gaunt hare
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I mean, it doesn't look completely unfun

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Can't say I care for the artstyle

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Fortnight is ugly as sin.

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Overwatch didn't do anything for me at first but I've grown to love how expressive the characters are

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I don't get that impression with Paladins

austere lance
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Paladins was in development way before Overwatch, it was supposed to feel more like Team Fortress and the devs compared it to that during testing. Then Overwatch got announced and the Paladins devs were like "shit, should we change our game?" And they tried some changes but their testers wanted them to keep the old ways, so they did. Then 8 billion OW fans REEEEEd over it and called it a copy ๐Ÿ™„

jade lake
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well i mean have you seen the characters?

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they shouldnt have changed their original game

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and it wouldnt be getting shit

austere lance
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They didn't change their game, that's the point

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They changed some stuff, their old testers told them to go back to the original design, and they did. Even though they knew OW fans would crap on em they went back to the original design

jade lake
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i mean i would say its worked out for them

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it has a pretty steady playerbase

austere lance
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I prefer it, personally

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I like the fantasy characters and the fact it's free with the same quality as OW

iron zinc
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@patent tapir knew you were from here

jade lake
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yo whats a good beginning build for dark souls 1

gaunt hare
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Well

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a lot of people prefer to play with a shield to begin with

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I tend to think you should learn how to roll, so I reccomend two handed weapons

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but shield and smaller sword might be easier at first

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The go to beginner weapon is the Zwiewander or whatever its called

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Two hand that bad boy, level it up

austere lance
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I went for the dragon sword, leveled up my strength enough to use it one-handed, and beat 6 bosses with it xD

gaunt hare
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Dragon sword is also a dope beginner weapon

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You'll have to look up how to get it. It involves shooting arrows at a dragon tail for a long time

austere lance
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Eh, it's like 30 arrows

gaunt hare
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As for leveling, focus on Endurance (for stamina) and Vitality

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for health

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or was it Vigor?

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Whatever makes your health go up

austere lance
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I think I chose a pyromancer for my character

gaunt hare
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making those green and red bars bigger is what most people do to learn the ropes

austere lance
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I liked the option to back up from using my dragon sword and toss fireballs

jade lake
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im gonna suck no matter what lol

gaunt hare
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Definitely try not to look up to much stuff

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just persevere

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try going a different way if you get stuck

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like if something seems to hard, try looking for a different area to explore. It might be easier.

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Figuring it out for yourself is the fun part.

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Basically just try not to worry too much about "messing up" your character or whatever

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For the most part, as long as you level up the health and stamina, (and don't touch the skill Resistance) you can't like break your experience

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Just a matter of trying and trying new things and tactics

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and eventually you'll bust through whatever wall you're at.

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When I first started playing I was stuck at the first area for dayyyys

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The Undead Burg area

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Anyway ya, some games are hard because you can work yourself into a corner (like strategy games) but in Dark Souls you're basically never in an impossible situation. You can work it out.

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If you're going to get so frustrated you're going to stop, just either "grind" by killing things, resting at a bonfire, repeat to put your level up

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or (even better) summon help from other players

austere lance
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Don't go too far into the fuckin forest without leveling yourself, lol

gaunt hare
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Once it clicks, it will click though.

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"It gets better" like those youtube videos for LGBT youth

austere lance
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I hate that place

gaunt hare
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You'll have more fun if you don't listen to us and just try different things until it makes sense to you.

austere lance
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Forest is hell

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I thought there were other players in it cuz they kicked my ass

jade lake
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lol

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aight im gonna attempt to go n blind

winter yew
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Do what

gaunt hare
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Dark Souls

winter yew
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Oh

jade lake
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oh no i meant im trying to go blind

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*my bad

cinder vessel
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Two handed weapons always make me feel clumsy and inflexible

gaunt hare
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Casual.

gaunt hare
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Oh my goodness.

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I just saw that Elon Musk tweet

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"Twitter is the Dark Souls of social media. Reddit is Bloodborne. Insta is Zelda"

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Fuck offffff Musk

cinder vessel
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lol

cinder vessel
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Hmm, any PC folks dig into Planet Explorers? I followed it for awhile but then NMS came out, lol

jade lake
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i agree @gaunt hare

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that tweet made me fucking twitch

cinder vessel
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he should set up blocks for himself from social media so he can stop sticking his foot in his mouth, lol

jade lake
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not sure what to think

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the MGS superfan side of me is twitching on the floor, the logical side of me is expecting something disappointing

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also MGS is 20 today woo

cinder vessel
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๐Ÿคท Twin Snakes Remaster? lol

winter yew
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crab battle remastered

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Also holy fuck way to make me feel old

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20 years ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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I was 13 when that game came out

austere lance
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Does anybody else want a new Prince of Persia game that follows the Sands of Time storyline/a reboot of the series?

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My gf just started playing Sands of Time and the nostalgia hit me hard, lol

winter yew
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Ehhh

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Never got to play that one

austere lance
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It was crazy for its time

cinder vessel
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i'd be into a game with its style of combat & environmental navigation, but wouldn't need to be Prince of Persia

raven frost
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good god

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star citizen runs decently now but is so crash-prone

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can't stay in a game longer than 10 minutes

austere lance
stable grail
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hi

austere lance
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Some sexy stuff coming in the next few months ๐Ÿ˜

cinder vessel
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kind of surprised they're still working away at it after the backlash

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Tbh I'd have preferred they let the Bioware team that worked on Andromeda continue working on it than Battlefront 4

teal mason
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Not like they can back down, that'd cost em the license

cinder vessel
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yeah, sucks that star war prints money

teal mason
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Still not getting mine, that's for sure

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I love the superior 2005 one just fine

winter yew
winter yew
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The picture mode is really cool

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The music in picture mode is even better!

winter yew
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yes

bronze wind
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@austere lance @jade lake Either of you see the leaked 30 secs of combat for RDR2?

winter yew
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Quality looks better than the official gameplay trailers. ๐Ÿ˜

austere lance
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Nope

bronze wind
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Looked very nice

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Won't talk about it much in case you don't want spoilers, although there aren't any actual spoilers lol

winter yew
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I saw a horse

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In RDR?

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No way

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yup

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and a gun

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possibly a revolver

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Wow, guess I need to watch it again and see if I can see it.

bronze wind
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There was also at least one hat

austere lance
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@bronze wind where's the leak?

bronze wind
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I saw it on Reddit

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Don't have the link handy atm, believe it was on /r/games though

winter yew
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Rockstar are copyrighting them super fast.

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But as soon as they are down, more are up.

iron zinc
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cool

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sadly on console

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24 fps kek

winter yew
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=\

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PC is a guarantee to happen though.

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Probably a year away but it'll come.

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No way they'll ignore that money from RDR Online.

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that comes in less than a week right?

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November IIRC

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November isn't in 4 days lol.

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Red Dead releases this Friday.

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Red Dead Online releases at some point in November.

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Don't give two shits about Red Dead Online

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if the state of GTA Online is anything to go by

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Same

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GTA O is a joke.

idle saffron
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Iโ€™m a cowboy

austere lance
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They actually built the game to run on the basic consoles, so it should have solid FPS

winter yew
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I was into GTA O until they started adding Trackmania and TRON and other wacky shit into the game.

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and the outrageous cost of the cooler vehicles

austere lance
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I put 20+ days of play-time into GTAO before it moved to next-gen

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Then I quit

winter yew
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I think I played up until the Doomsday heists

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those were fun

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and the addition of first-person mode was pretty nice in some situations

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Sometimes I'd just load up into my fastest car and go against traffic on the highway

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in first person mode

austere lance
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Me and my friends were some of the first people to log onto GTAO, it was a fucking mess for the first night xD

winter yew
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I usually played until I either 1. Got bored or 2. Got pissed at hackers

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The first time I encountered one he dropped a toilet on my head that caused my player to seize like has being tasered

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Was the most hilarious thing

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until I started seeing chrome plated trash trucks flying through the air

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and then everything exploding

austere lance
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I had fun in the lobbies full of people dropping billion dollar bounties on people, lol

winter yew
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soooooooo yeah

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yes

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money was nice

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for those of us that have real full-time jobs

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and can't treat GTA O as a part time job lol

austere lance
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Money hackers were the first hackers, I loved them

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Troll hackers didn't show up til later

teal mason
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I got basically all my money in GTAO from cash drop lobbies

winter yew
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nice

teal mason
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don't promote em for EULA reasons

bronze wind
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My favorite* type of hacker in GTAO was the one that would just auto-explode all players in the lobby whenever they respawned

*least favorite

teal mason
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but that was what I did

winter yew
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I was gonna log in to GTA O just now to get a nice picture of on e of my favorite cars but then I remembered I don't have it installed

austere lance
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Rockstar took all my money cuz I had too much, they left me 250k. Too bad I'd already bought everything, including the tank ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

teal mason
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did you have a bil or someshit

austere lance
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I collected a couple billion dollar bounties off people, lol

cinder vessel
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yeah billed for their bil

teal mason
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I have like 500mil and never banned once

teal mason
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while people gets banned for no reason lmfao

austere lance
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After they locked down hackers more we had to resort to car duplication glitches. I had two 12 car garages full of Entities that I slowly sold off

austere lance
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Best air vehicle

austere lance
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Tanks were stupidly OP at first, you could only kill them with other tanks or fighter jets

cinder vessel
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I like how a lot of GTAO's issues stem from people chafing against the rigid design

austere lance
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Fuck their grindy bs, my friends and I did every money and xp glitch we could find

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We never hacked tho

cinder vessel
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the others are just like, let the players run their own silly servers ya goofs

teal mason
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one of my favourite ironic moments in GTAO history is when R* removed people's glitched outfits and telling people to "make their own style" in the glitchers' dressing rooms

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like what tf do you think we were doing with dem glitched outfits R* your vanilla clothes are shit

winter yew
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I wish I had this in a higher resolution

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I loved going around taking pictures of stuff in GTAO

teal mason
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I loved making machinimas with GTAO, good times

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but then I got a job

cinder vessel
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basically

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they're bankin' on this sellin' a fuckton

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and then squeezing out more via the microtransaction garbage

winter yew
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I can't wait for the eventual crash of video games.

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It's just greed.

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No other reason for it.

cinder vessel
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crash of AAA junk anyway

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What sucks is I was initially pretty stoked for DMC5

winter yew
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I was too tbh.

cinder vessel
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but Capcom had to Capcom it up

winter yew
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Microtransactions should not be in single player games.

bronze wind
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Shouldn't be in any imo, but they make even less sense in SP

cinder vessel
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Monster Hunter World on PC has DRM junk, their remasters/rereleases are inconsistent outside of major titles/series like Mega Man & Mega Man X and Resident Evil, then what they're doing with DMC5

winter yew
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A Youtuber said it best, I don't remember who but he said something along the lines of "If a player needs to pay to skip parts of your game then your game was not good."

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Might have been Jim Sterling tbh

cinder vessel
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Not to mention what the fuck has Capcom been doing with Street Fighter lately? Like man, that's been a weird wreck

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I'll give them this much, they sort of seem to be trying to do better/good, but left & right it's like the moneymen in the business are shooting their feet

winter yew
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Cause it is, they see last years profit as a target to beat.

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Rinse repeat

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More than likely people that don't even play games.

bronze wind
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That's generally where these kinds of decisions come from

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For most products

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It isn't some software engineer sitting in a room going "I'l make my shit suck hard" (although I'm sure there are people like that). It's some exec or financial planner that's like "We need this because of X" and the devs have no say

#

And if they do have a say it won't actually pan out so they can't do anything about it

#

Or they're the shitty ones that implement it anyway

cinder vessel
#

yup, greed as a sole ethical principle is fucked

#

thanks capitalism

winter yew
#

Hurrah

bronze wind
#

Denuvo does suck but I wish more people were informed about why rather than spouting random BS like "it broke my PC" or something

#

Because then it makes it difficult to take complaints seriously lol

winter yew
#

I love /r/crackwatch for that. They HATE Denuvo.

cinder vessel
#

Yeah, misinformed people in any circle is stupidly frustrating

winter yew
#

Seen many graphs proving without is better performance.

bronze wind
#

Eh

cinder vessel
#

It all depends on the implementation tbh

bronze wind
#

Taking away CPU cycles from things is never going to improve performance.

winter yew
#

I also hate the fact I don't technically own my games.

#

They can kill it any time.

cinder vessel
#

this is why i avoid online games tbh

bronze wind
#

But it does really depend on how it's implemented, like Rime just fucked it up but it wasn't solely Denuvo

winter yew
#

It's hard to do now days tbf

cinder vessel
#

It's not that I dislike people, it's just why get invested in something they can cancel

#

they can basically cancel my hangout and great

winter yew
#

I bought Hitman GOTY and it pings a server regularly mid game.

#

To the point I couldn't get a connection, couldn't save and then couldn't continue

cinder vessel
#

wait still?

winter yew
#

Yep

austere lance
#

Yeah I wasn't touching the new Hitman after I saw it was episodic

cinder vessel
#

I was digging around about that & I thought I saw where one of the versions ran without that junk

winter yew
#

I bought it Friday just gone.

cinder vessel
#

I think maybe one of the PlayStation versions of it? ๐Ÿค”

winter yew
#

Maybe, i did the Steam version.

cinder vessel
#

It threw me for a loop, lemme just say that

austere lance
#

I've played two Hitman games and wasn't super impressed, so seeing the new one is episodic didn't help my view of the franchise any ๐Ÿ˜„

cinder vessel
#

'cause I was like, wait wtf is going on here?

winter yew
#

GOTY gives all episodes, not that I'm promoting it.

cinder vessel
#

The new Hitman being episodic didn't phase me, just knew I'd wait for the collection

bronze wind
#

The game is actually pretty fun

winter yew
#

It really is.

bronze wind
#

Can be hilarious too lol

winter yew
#

I;ve done 30 hours since Friday.

bronze wind
#

"Hey, shitbag!"

winter yew
#

Hahaha

bronze wind
#

every 10 seconds

idle saffron
#

The new one comes out next month

bronze wind
#

yos

reef storm
#

Excite.

idle saffron
#

Looks good

bronze wind
#

no u

reef storm
#

And Sean Bean is the first elusive target lol

idle saffron
#

๐Ÿค—

austere lance
#

I played like 20 minutes of Blood Money and ๐Ÿ˜ด, Absolution was kinda cool but I'm not a fan of the stealth in general

winter yew
#

Grandpa Joseph is the only Hitman "friend" on my list.

#

Some of his scores are high.

reef storm
#

Yis

winter yew
#

Like, the hell dude?

bronze wind
#

I haven't gotten too far

idle saffron
#

Iโ€™ll beat you all!

reef storm
#

The game is fun.

idle saffron
#

Rawr

bronze wind
#

But the amount I played was fun

austere lance
#

I might try Absolution again someday

bronze wind
#

I love just donking people in the domepiece with random shit

idle saffron
#

Xbox is giving away blood money this month

austere lance
#

I know, that's how I played it @idle saffron

#

Was meh

idle saffron
#

No you

bronze wind
#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

austere lance
#

I ๐Ÿ˜ด after 20 minutes

bronze wind
#

You know what's a good game that I play often, with no DRM or mtx?

#

No Man's Sky ๐Ÿ‘€

reef storm
winter yew
#

I should play it tbh

idle saffron
bronze wind
idle saffron
#

Lol

winter yew
#

Humble Bundle has Hitman GOTY for $12.

reef storm
#

Nice

winter yew
#

Which I found out after I got it from Steam.

#

=\

bronze wind
#

๐Ÿ˜ž

#

I have a key for it

austere lance
#

I'm selling my soul to RDR 2 on Friday, I have it pre-downloaded already xD

cinder vessel
#

๐Ÿค” the discussions i'm digging up are still weirdly mixed on the online req

bronze wind
#

I wish it was on PC

#

Makes me a saddo

winter yew
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

reef storm
#

Same

cinder vessel
#

Supposedly the retail copies of the new Hitman are what I was thinking of

winter yew
#

I haven't looked too much into new Hitman.

cinder vessel
#

by new i mean like 2 years old Hitman, lol

reef storm
#

For any of you city builders, the next Cities: Skylines expac comes out tomorrow

cinder vessel
#

Speaking of citybuilders, have any of you tried Aven Colony? I've been looking into it to get a scifi citybuilding fix

reef storm
#

Haven't heard of it

austere lance
#

I almost downloaded it the other day but apparently it has horrible balance and randomly makes you fail with bs @cinder vessel

winter yew
#

Ouch

cinder vessel
#

wha, did they have a free weekend somewhen ago?

austere lance
#

You're either doing really good with an abundance of resources or you're fucked beyond all redemption and have to start over

bronze wind
#

I wanted to try Survive Mars or whatever it's called

winter yew
#

I'm most excited for X4 Foundations, I can not wait to sink a shit ton of time into that game.

reef storm
cinder vessel
#

Survive Mars & Planetbase were the other two I was looking into, but the dome-look isn't what I was wanting from scifi citybuilding

austere lance
#

Surviving Mars looks better than Aven Colony, lol

cinder vessel
#

Although I still think I'd enjoy them

winter yew
#

Wow, that looks surprisingly fun.

cinder vessel
#

It does, yeah, but it doesn't have the open air cityscape style I've been trying to find

#

To S0ul, mind

austere lance
#

Aven makes you dome your city too at some point cuz aliens can attack you

jade lake
#

@bronze wind oh yeah the gameplay looked sick

austere lance
#

Surviving Mars has much better player reviews compared to Aven

cinder vessel
#

what is with these scifi games and their dome fetish

winter yew
#

Cause that's what the future vision looks like I guess.

#

Like we should have Nikes that tie themselves by now.

cinder vessel
#

the funniest part of many of these is how they all share the same vision of...basically just slightly fancier looking solar panels and wind turbines

austere lance
#

Cuz it's easier to dome a whole settlement for protection than to dome each building individually

winter yew
jade lake
#

dome fetish

winter yew
#

๐Ÿ˜

cinder vessel
#

i mean i get it, but it's not a great way to try and set yourself apart

winter yew
#

I see your point.

#

Needs someone to step outside the box for a second.

austere lance
#

Dome is most efficient way of protecting an area on a planet

cinder vessel
#

I've a similar issue with stuff like Elite: Dangerous & Star Citizen & Everspace & X3-X4. They're each relatively impressive looking graphically, but they all have this very plain style to them that doesn't really push much further ahead than other scifi material you've seen before.

Although some of the alien ships in X3 try a little more, so kudos on that. Same with Elite's alien ship designs.

austere lance
#

Elite makes me want to die

#

Space Trucker Simulator

cinder vessel
#

I think it's because each of these types of games goes after a harder scifi aesthetic

austere lance
#

Making your ships "complicated" to fly and locking half the game's content behind a paywall=/=a good space game

cinder vessel
#

but simulation!

austere lance
#

๐Ÿคข

cinder vessel
austere lance
#

The irony is that ship flying would be much more streamlined than that in the future

cinder vessel
#

@inland grail Horizon: Zero Dawn's not a big franchise thing, plus there's Until Dawn, but if you have a good enough PC & the exclusives don't interest you, there's really not much of an argument for any of the consoles, since a lot of great stuff is crossplatform

inland grail
#

i think spiderman is a thing i would like

#

Like going around the city with the spiderman music

jade lake
#

ok

cinder vessel
jade lake
#

i agree

#

i was interested in 76

#

but at this point, fuck them

#

and that game

bronze wind
jade lake
#

admitting you arent releasing a finished game from the start is also pretty fucking scummy and stupid. being self aware doesnt do jack shit for anyone

#

imo of course DootDoot

cinder vessel
#

I mean mainly I'm just frustrated at this statement because Bethesda

#

And their history of buggy games

#

They basically did this same noise with Fallout 4 but minus the statement (as far as I'm aware)

bronze wind
#

Honestly the headline for that just feeds into the cookie cutter opinion everyone already formed about it

#

Reading it they don't say "our game isn't finished" as much as they say "we want to expand". And the whole bug statement was mostly about the beta, although yes I'm sure it will expand into launch.

jade lake
#

also, releasing a game in any vicinity of RDR2 is just a bad idea

#

or rockstar game in general

bronze wind
#

Lol

#

As if people won't buy both

jade lake
#

i mean

#

kinda

bronze wind
#

Okay

#

Including all the PC players who can't even buy rdr2

cinder vessel
#

Zoid, they do say, "With 76, we feel we have not finished, but reached a starting line where all new work begins." That is essentially saying it's not finished, and that they're simply moving from the core to additional stuff, which is still not finished.

bronze wind
#

I mean sure, but they aren't saying it's a broken unfinished pile

cinder vessel
#

It may not mean "isn't finished" as in broken as fuck, but yeah, lol

bronze wind
#

They're saying they want to add more

winter yew
#

Are there any Warframe players here? PM me, itโ€™s important

jade lake
#

i might pick 76 up in like a year

cinder vessel
#

Either way, they may as well just use that letter as a template for all their future games, lmao

jade lake
#

idk theres too many other games for my money to go towards over how sided i feel about 76

cinder vessel
#

Edit where needed, but it fits their past games about as well as 76

winter yew
cinder vessel
winter yew
#

looks neat

cinder vessel
#

just finished trying the demo for a bit, it's pretty good!

reef storm
#

Looks interesting

austere lance
#

Combat looks kinda like R-Type Command

cinder vessel
#

Aaah, was about to say

#

I'm not familiar with R-Type Command tho ๐Ÿค” Gives me something to look into

austere lance
#

I have it on PSP, it's pretty fun

#

It's called R-Type Tactics in Japan

cinder vessel
#

Turn-based?

austere lance
#

Apparently it's only on PSP ๐Ÿ˜„

#

Yee

#

That gameplay of Crying Suns reminded me of it

cinder vessel
#

Ah, so yeah they're a tad similar, but Crying Suns isn't turn-based, it's realtime with pause

austere lance
#

Ah

#

The grid thing is what reminded me of Command, lol

cinder vessel
#

Yeah, and they are pretty close! Although to win the fight in Crying Suns you have to take out the battleship on the opposing side, whereas I'm not sure what the victory condition is with R-Type Command, guessing it varies more?

austere lance
#

You had to get to the other side of the map and either get more kills before the timer runs out or kill the enemy capital ship

#

I think the deciding factor if you couldn't eliminate their capital ship/giant Bydo monster was who had more allies left by the end of the game

#

It was cool, I liked it

cinder vessel
#

Sounds cool, think I would too tbh

austere lance
#

There were weird crates full of parts on the map that you could collect for currency and parts, and you could research new ships to use on future missions or older ones. Re-doing the first couple missions with OP fighters and bombers was hilarious xD

gaunt hare
#

Did anyone play the horizon zero Dawn frozen wilds dlc

winter yew
#

I havenโ€™t gotten to it yet

#

I had to backtrack at my first cauldron because Iโ€™m getting my ass kicked

cinder vessel
#

i keep meaning to play the base game some more but just...eh

#

i've been a bit mixed about its setting since they first talked about it some more and it carries through. a lot of the mystery that's intended is watered down thanks to it basically being about near future Earth

gaunt hare
#

My issue is more with the gameplay being very...

#

safe.

cinder vessel
#

like if it had been a failed space colony it might feel more mysterious and strange, but as it is...eh

winter yew
#

Safe?

cinder vessel
#

it's got pretty normal action adventure style gameplay

#

at least for more recent games

winter yew
#

I honestly was hoping it was a M. Night Shamalamadingdong twist

cinder vessel
#

i still haven't gotten to the end, mind

#

so i'm just speaking to poking through the city ruins you first encounter around the start

winter yew
#

Like I was thinking the world of HZD was contained on an island like Jurassic Park and whatnot

cinder vessel
#

now that would have been amusing & interesting

winter yew
#

Yea

gaunt hare
#

Ya safe as in it's gameplay isnt very interesting to me.

cinder vessel
#

some science experiment gone awry

winter yew
#

Yes

gaunt hare
#

The gameplay loop, I should say.

cinder vessel
#

i feel that too Spookapi, I think that's why I haven't been able to motivate myself to get back into it

winter yew
#

Right

gaunt hare
#

I'm interested by the story, I really like the main character, I think the big fights can be pretty great

cinder vessel
#

it reminds me a bunch of Ubi-style open worlds, or even Sucker Punch's open worlds

gaunt hare
#

Also the world is very lovely and visually expressive and obviously graphically impressive

#

but it feels too busy to me

cinder vessel
#

like visually busy?

gaunt hare
#

Ya, where theres so many different area types

#

Crammed into a map that's certainly big enough, but not big enough for the amount of places.

cinder vessel
#

oh, i was thinking like the detail feels very busy to me

gaunt hare
#

Yes, that too

#

It feels like instead of a gradual transition into a desert or jungle, it's like I cross a line and it becomes a new area

cinder vessel
#

i'm glad there's enviro-variety, but so far as i'm aware it still seems rather limited.

#

i'd take that abruptness over an artificially extended map, personally

gaunt hare
#

Like the Witcher 3 and as far as I can see (haven't played it) BotW did a great job of making the transition feel natural

cinder vessel
#

although it may have been better served by showing a gap between them, but then that would cut down further on the sense of the world's being connected

gaunt hare
#

I don't want a bigger map, it just feels like not a real place

cinder vessel
#

I don't mind that, as noted, but i understand what ya mean

gaunt hare
#

The environment doesn't make sense to me.

#

I kind of like the story though, for a video game.

cinder vessel
#

i think a larger part of the problem stems from the general aesthetic striving towards realism making that way more jarring, but maybe that's just me?

gaunt hare
#

Hmm

#

Maybe

cinder vessel
#

if it was a little more fantastical ya might be more willing to accept the abrupt transitions, but hard to say

#

or just a wildly different setting, not Earth, for instance

gaunt hare
#

My little sister loved this game for the main character

#

Aloy is really cool

#

By the way, I'll never stop being amused how many gamer dudes harp on about how representation doesn't matter and then getting super pissed when they arent being represented by a scruffy 30 year old white guy

#

But I digress

cinder vessel
#

heh

#

Aloy's a bit dorky, but not in an annoying way, so it works

gaunt hare
#

My sister's a bit dorky so that makes sense

#

I'm redownloading all the playstation games I haven't finished since my brother has a pc

#

So most games id rather play on his pc

#

I literally just started up horizon again and I'm doing that whole, getting used to "what the hell I was doing" phase

cinder vessel
#

that's simultaneously a nice and frustrating feeling, lol

#

familiar and unfamiliar all at once

gaunt hare
#

You guys didn't like the near future earth thing?

#

I like what the story did with the concept.

#

Trying not to voice spoilers, but have you gotten to the parts where the term Horizon Zero Dawn is explained?

#

Definitely not like super original a concept for sci fi, but I found it pretty refreshing for a video game.

#

Haha, so many of my video game story critiques involve the phrase "for a video game".

cinder vessel
#

I dunno about Spooky Stripes, but I know for me personally it kind of took away much interest in the mystery of the place

frail wyvern
#

I'm not in the US so this isn't much use to me, if anyone wants some Hollow Knight merchandise from Fan Gamer here is a 20% off coupon and the redemption instructions HK-APTY-HWMF-XE7N https://support.humblebundle.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010178893

#

please just say if you used it

jade lake
#

what should the name of my dark souls character be

#

first playthrough

#

ever

winter yew
#

Cpt. n00bit

reef storm
#

Usually comes up with some funny ones

topaz wedge
#

Earnmund, Luminous Grand Master of the End
OMG, this is so OP

austere lance
jade lake
#

friday salsasean

austere lance
#

๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜

cinder vessel
raven frost
#

star citizen: if you don't crash, someone's going to ruin your fun anyway

#

It's like if the game doesn't stop you from having fun, the people in game will

#

I was exploring an outpost when some dude in a bigass ship destroys mine and then proceeds to pin me down in some wreckage

#

had to kill myself just to escape him

#

fun times

#

I'm so fucking sick and tired of waiting for this shit, I'm done

#

I backed sc back when I was, what, 16 or so?

#

I'm nearing 20 now and I have better things to do than keep up to date with it

#

I'm done

#

goodbye

#

and if it isn't obvious yet I'm pretty fuckin salty

jade lake
#

lol buddy you're JUST NOW feeling that way?

#

people that still support SC are being abused

raven frost
#

I've been regretting backing it for a long time

#

however, since I put money into it, I just kinda felt obligated to check in on it all the time

#

it's a cool idea and the groundwork is definitely there now this coming patch, but I'm just tired and done with trying to act interested in it now

#

my tastes have changed, I really don't have time to sink hours into a game anymore and that's pretty much EXACTLY WHAT sc will require out of people I imagine

austere lance
#

It's gonna be hella P2W, if it ever actually releases

raven frost
#

it's what brings me back to NMS a lot, I can sit down and play for an hour or two then leave and not have to worry about anything

#

THAT TOO

#

fucking

austere lance
#

Buys $500 OP ship that can take out a fleet

raven frost
#

I'm appauled that they haven't dropped the backer system and set the game at a flat rate

#

hell they could make it $60 for the game and it would be KIND OF OKAY right now IMO

#

anything's better than what they've got

#

what sucks the worst is that despite every attempt to just forget about it I always come back to it thinking "is it decent now?" only to get my hopes fucking shattered

#

I want it completely erased from my memory

#

good god

#

there's only 2 games that hold that title in my mind, this is one of them

#

uuuuugh

#

anyways, another topic

#

games that relieve stress

jade lake
#

stardew valley

#

animal crossing

#

personal preference: hotline miami

gaunt hare
#

Dark souls

#

Bloodborne

#

Dark souls 2

jade lake
#

recently started dark souls today

gaunt hare
#

That relieves my stress

jade lake
#

made a goofy lookin character

gaunt hare
#

Because I know those games like the back of my hand

#

So I can play them while listening to music or podcasts

#

@jade lake how far have you gotten

jade lake
#

started an hour ago, im just exploring the shrine

#

*firelink shrine

#

lootin peeps

gaunt hare
#

What system

daring spear
#

does anyone know anything about the game Bless Online? It's new and ftp but I figured I'd ask

jade lake
#

switch

gaunt hare
#

Fack

jade lake
#

the audio succcckkks

#

its super compressed

gaunt hare
#

I was going to say I'd watch you stream

jade lake
#

i wanna get a switch capture card

gaunt hare
#

Because I like watching people play dark souls

#

I'm guessing switch can't hang

jade lake
#

my brother recently picked it up on switch, so he'll hopefully help me out

#

hes beaten it a few times

teal mason
#

Mattel Electronics Presents

topaz wedge
#

XD

#

Looks like Intellivision is the company now, instead of a product trademark

teal mason
#

tbh it looks interesting but I can't wait to laugh my ass of at how this will inevitably flop

topaz wedge
#

Ouya feelings?

teal mason
#

just that it won't be easy to break the oligopoly

topaz wedge
#

oh well... I suppose it'll compete with Atari VCS

#

It's fine for now if both find a sustainable niche

#

anyway if PSX Classic sells (because really Sony?), these ones have a chance of profitting as well

cinder vessel
topaz wedge
brisk merlin
#

it runs awfully though

austere lance
#

I love that game

bronze wind
#

Runs okay for me, my save just got corrupted like 85% of the way through ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

winter yew
#

Same and I never went back to it.

topaz wedge
#

ouch

iron inlet
#

I know some people had that same issue with Witcher 3

bronze wind
#

Impossible

#

CDPR do nothing wrong /s

jade lake
#

what have they done wrong

bronze wind
#

I was being sarcastic, because of nyx's comment about save corruption and the general circlejerk around them

winter yew
#

I only found out not that long back that they own GOG too.

#

Surprised me.

bronze wind
#

Yee

raven frost
#

hmmmmm

austere lance
#

A Clone Trooper with braces, lol

raven frost
#

I think I should've followed the instructions

austere lance
#

Or orthodontic head-gear

raven frost
idle saffron
#

Astroneer is fun

winter yew
#

Mhm

austere lance
#

60 hour story in RDR 2, holy shit

#

And that's after they trimmed a bunch of extra missions off

idle saffron
#

Thatโ€™s not counting all the other shit Iโ€™ll be doing

austere lance
#

They had a love interest but cut her in the end, they removed extra stuff they felt wasn't needed

grave elbow
#

Im so hyped for rdr2

austere lance
#

Hell yeah, I've got it pre-ordered and downloaded

#

Same with my pre-order bonuses

#

My body is ready ๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ’ฆ ๐Ÿ’ฆ

bronze wind
#

Never preorder

#

๐Ÿ˜Ž

plucky mesa
cinder vessel
oblique crescent
cinder vessel
#

By the by, if you have PSVR and are looking for a longer game, The Persistence is really great for that & is on sale on the US PlayStation Store

gaunt hare
#

@cinder vessel you have VR?

cinder vessel
#

yeah

gaunt hare
#

Huh...

#

for some reason I assumed you'd never play on VR

cinder vessel
#

๐Ÿค”

winter yew
#

Holy shit, I went to pre-load RDR2.
ยฃ59.99 for the standard.

#

Fuck that, I can wait.

brisk merlin
#

Lmao

winter yew
#

That's the equivalent of $77.30

#

I genuinely expected it to match the normal price of games here.

brisk merlin
#

Yea

topaz wedge
brisk merlin
#

Weeb

lavish obsidian
#

PSVR's catalog is impressive though

#

Gotta give them that

gaunt hare
#

RDR2 is so hype I don't even want to look at it

#

I can't afford it right now and I don't even want to hear about it

#

Like I'm already sold. I'm going to play it one day

#

Feels like any information is irrelevant

winter yew
#

I agree, almost all of the gaming channels I sub to on Youtube posted RDR2 gameplays at pretty much exactly the same time today. My sub list is basically RDR2.

#

But yeah, I have all intention on playing too just not right now. Can fuck off with the price they're charging.

topaz wedge
#

IGN: 10/10

topaz wedge
gaunt hare
#

I have no interest in looking at that

#

I would have already pre ordered if I had the money

#

Rockstar has already won

#

I must see for myself

#

I understand why people stick with "never pre order" but personally, I've never regretted a pre order in my fifteen years of pre ordering games when I feel like it

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And I'm an adult so I can spend my money on what I want, thank you very much

winter yew
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RDR2 would have been my first pre-order since Titanfall.

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I generally wait for the immediate discounts after the first month.

teal mason
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I'm kinda OK with Sony's censorship because it has the potential to drive some people off from both consoles and lower tier VR devices

gaunt hare
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I think Titanfall games are insanely overrated

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Titanfall 2 campaign was barely "fine" for me

winter yew
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I never played Titanfall 2.

teal mason
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I only played Hawken

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like, 5 years ago maybe?

winter yew
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I skipped that too.

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I don't think even anyone in my circle of friends even played it tbh

teal mason
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it's a bit meh

topaz wedge
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@teal mason ppl that don't respect age ratings should be driven away anyway

gaunt hare
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Age ratings should be driven away

topaz wedge
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That would make things even easier for censorships

gaunt hare
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I mean they are fine as a general guideline, but they are way, way too powerful in the gaming or movie industry

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No, no it wouldn't

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Books and music do just fine without them

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for obvious reasons

teal mason
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the thing is age rating based on violence is fuzzy at best, whereas sexual content is pretty easy to define based on the parts showed

gaunt hare
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Because they are so prevelant in gaming and movies we are used to them, but they serve basically no purpose.

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Especially now with the internet, where someone could look up content if they REALLY cared about controlling what content their young child saw

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In film and gaming a lot of time they are run by very conservative censorship that focuses on controlling what content is deemed "permissable" for the creatives

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You might think that, but actually sexual content in ratings for movies is insanely biased

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Things like lesbian, gay, or female pleasure are censored and deemed inappropriate far more often than heterosexual sex

topaz wedge
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Although I also agree with Winder's viewpoint, I think age ratings are shield about baseless accusations. Let's a say a child play a game with a rating M and get to see something gruesome. What do you think the parents would do?

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Sue the industry

gaunt hare
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A very limited view of hetersecual sex, at that

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Age ratings are basically useless, at this point

limber harness
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I mean they do anyways, rfns

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Or they try.

teal mason
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just let every single child play Hatred when they reach the age of 12

bronze wind
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I mean they can't really sue since the age ratings are there for a reason lol

teal mason
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problem solved ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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or postal 2

topaz wedge
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@bronze wind bingo

bronze wind
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Just throw them on discord at 13

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They'll lose their innocence quickly

gaunt hare
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Basically what I'm saying is hey, maybe don't give them the opportunity to control what creatives do at all

teal mason
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actually, I did play postal 2 earlier than the age of 12

limber harness
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Especially around our mods

topaz wedge
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@limber harness don't speak like that doesn't include you lol

gaunt hare
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If they really hink it's important for people to have a sticker to tell them what content they might deem offensive (subjective as hell) is in the game, fine

limber harness
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It absolutely does include me.

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I'm one of the worst offenders in modlounge

bronze wind
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@gaunt hare I agree, I think at this point it's more of a protection than it is an enforcement

gaunt hare
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but in film and games it has actually controlled what people are allowed to put in their game

bronze wind
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Like no one will arrest you for playing a rated M game if you're like 14

gaunt hare
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Hopefully things like streaming and steam will erase that

bronze wind
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But you aren't legally entitled to some sort of retaliation if your kid gets traumatized lol

gaunt hare
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since so far it's been that if your game gets adult only, or if your movie gets nc17, most retailers won't carry your game

bronze wind
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I do see what you're saying though

gaunt hare
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And you won't be able to find a mature audience

topaz wedge
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Like I said, ratings are shield for the industry, not the consumer

gaunt hare
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It's an outdated system

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No, ratings are always run by people totally out of touch that has nothing to do with the creative process

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And totally forces creative people to design their game around arbitrary rules

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It used to be you couldn't show a toilet

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Or a married couple sleeping in the same bed

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It's "better" now

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But that doesn't make it any less dumb

bronze wind
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Just make everything rated M and let the world burn

topaz wedge
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I'm certain that game age ratings came due to Mortal Kombat, that should be a reason no?

gaunt hare
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Which were introduced due to a hysteria over games that look insanely old and silly compared to what we see now

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Literally due to a small group of old bastards who get offended and try to shoehorn their definition of offensive into everything created by anyone ever

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Who try to introduce laws to ban violent or sexual content or homosexual content or cigarettes in a game or whatever is up their craw

topaz wedge
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Do you think that getting rid of ratings would stop these bastards from blaming the content because they didn't expected (supposedly) what they found?

gaunt hare
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Do you think that the ratings are run by anything other than people blaming content?

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We thank our lucky stars that we are no longer banned from showing things that now seem totally silly to be banned

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but it's still the same logic, and the same people, it's just been pushed back.

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Show a penis in gta, that would have been totally Adults Only and therefore unable to be sold in something like GameStop a while ago

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these days, it's better, but at this point why even bother with them.

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What's the point

austere lance
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I've had RDR 2 pre-loaded for 4 or 5 days now, someone kill me

bronze wind
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ok

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๐Ÿ”ซ ๐Ÿค 

austere lance
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Lol

bronze wind
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oh wait

winter yew
bronze wind
austere lance
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I'm ready to play as my boi Arthur

gaunt hare
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First of all (and this is beside the point, to me) it's not even like the current system is doing the job of keeping r rated movies or m rated games out of the hands of kids anyway??

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With streaming and torrenting and their parents just buying it for them

topaz wedge
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@gaunt hare I agree with you that ratings enforces restrictions that are 90% of the cases, exaggerated, but you must keep in mind that ratings are just an obstacle, the public itself would become the critics

austere lance
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They got rid of typical Rockstar hair-growing physics and made it more realistic than Witcher 3 hair physics, you can't magically get more hair at a barber. You can only style the hair you've grown already ๐Ÿ˜„

gaunt hare
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It's literally not doing anything.

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The public has already been critical in the first place

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because some of the public are a bunch of whiney babies

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And those whiney babies are the one that enforcing this system in the first place

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I mean, I wouldn't let my kid play GTA if he was young.

topaz wedge
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yeah, but the system works like this whiny babies (minority) + media = power to takeover

gaunt hare
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That doesn't mean I want an "all knowing" secret entity controlling what people can create, which is exactly what they do sometimes

bronze wind
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I think if it was purely a legal thing and it didn't have any influence on content it'd be fine. But that's not how it plays out in practice unfortunately.

gaunt hare
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Those same whiney babies are losing anyway.

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What, we want to appease those morons so let's let a secret group control artistic content?

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No way

topaz wedge
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@bronze wind you mean limited to being a label?

bronze wind
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More or less yeah. Like disclaimers on products that say "yeah don't fucking do this stupid thing you absolute idiot"

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So if the absolute idiot does that stupid thing they can't say "you didn't say I couldn't!!!"

gaunt hare
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Haven't you ever heard of a director being sent those notes by the rating system dark society?

bronze wind
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That's how it works now but it unfortunately also affects the creative process

gaunt hare
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Literally "edit down this women having performed oral sex on her, the licking was too loud" or "show some of the leg being blown off but not the whole thing" and they have to do that rating or they can't show the movie in a theater because barely ANY theaters will run an nc17

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It's ridiculous.

topaz wedge
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That's just because censorship is glued with age ratings

gaunt hare
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It's literally just based on the arbitrary notes by some random person

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Ya but these ratings are so silly

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And change with time

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And don't reflect artistic integrity at sll

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all

topaz wedge
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take censorship out and ratings would have nothing to be blamed

gaunt hare
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You have no idea who the people who are deciding these things are

limber harness
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Unless you pay them enough

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Then you can show anything you want

gaunt hare
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It's literally secret groups of unelected, random people with connections carrying out their whim

topaz wedge
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oh, yeah... and old and bad corruption

austere lance
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There's a group of dudes you have to explain your movie to and/or show them, they give it a rating afterwards

gaunt hare
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and "shockingly" people who get involved in this rating process tend to be totally ass backwards conservative people with a grudge

austere lance
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And they'll usually be lenient if you throw money at them

gaunt hare
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Because no one else would want to do that job

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because it's a silly job

limber harness
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won't someone PLEASE think of the children?!?!?!

gaunt hare
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That somehow controls the creative process of literally millions of people

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It's crazy.

austere lance
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You can have heads get ripped off in a PG-13 movie if you throw enough money at the guys rating it, lol

gaunt hare
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The corruption is literally just icing on the cake

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when the cake is already a massive dung pile

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The corruption is a byproduct of a system that is just silly and useless and does nothing to protect young people and actively harms the creators, as well as reinforcing outdated social standards.

austere lance
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I wish I was joking but Rampage had heads getting ripped off and people getting torn to bits and it was PG-13, it was a big budget action movie that they thought was guaranteed a bunch of money so they let it slide

gaunt hare
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It's a function that should be restricted to like a website

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As like a tool for parents to decide if they want to pay for their kid to see a movie

austere lance
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If your movie has a phat budget, big name actors, and is projected to make millions they'll generally be lenient on you. If you're a less-famous director with only a couple good actors you're gonna have to work for your rating

gaunt hare
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Not a Nationwide mandate that applies to every artistic product made in the United States, or any country for that matter.

austere lance
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All the stuff I'm talking about is in the US btw, idk how other country's rating systems work

gaunt hare
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And it certainly should have absolutely zero say in what a creator puts into their creation.

austere lance
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Ratings people have spent the last 30 years not liking R rated movies cuz they used to (generally) make less money than PG-13 movies. Deadpool and Logan obviously broke that barrier but all the ratings dudes are still a bunch of old fucks with set in stone ideals

gaunt hare
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I'm much less concerned about the corruption in the MPAA because in my opinion it's corrupt from the ground up

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Same with the ESRB

austere lance
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We won't see a change in how ratings people perceive things until we get a new generation of people controlling them

gaunt hare
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People complain about video games being immature, yet want there to be a board that controls how much mature content can be in a game.

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That's crazy.

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The change in public perception of ratings have been happening for years and it's going to keep happening. Like I said, with things like steam and Netflix taking over it's becoming more and more pointless

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I just think it's always been pointless

austere lance
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There could be 36 R rated movies that make as much money as Deadpool and they would still have the same ideals, smh

gaunt hare
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Like, did the rating system help parents decide if they should pay for their ten year old to see Saw?

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It serves no purpose, especially with freedom of information.

austere lance
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All the jackass parents that took their 6 year olds to Deadpool cuz they thought it was a superhero movie then cried all over the internet about it

gaunt hare
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It was definitely a very small amount of parents who made a loud noise

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because it's a very small overlap of "parents who don't want their kids to see violent movies" "parents who take their kids to see Deadpool" and "parents who know how to use the internet"

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That's a very, very small group with all three of those traits.

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If you know how to use the internet than it would take five seconds to Google "Deadpool" to see what kind of movie it was.

limber harness
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I mean, deadpool's top google results dont reveal much

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just the rating

gaunt hare
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Come on though

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In the context of this conversation

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I guess I've already said my piece on the subject more than I needed to, probably.

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It feels like talking about Deadpool is backtracking by miles

bronze wind
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It's a weird situation

gaunt hare
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Goddamn. Nobody talk about red dead

bronze wind
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๐Ÿ˜ฉ

gaunt hare
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I'm going to email Kotaku

bronze wind
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I may pick it up on xbone. Even though I didn't really want to get it on console.

gaunt hare
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Just stop

winter yew
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Same

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I could probably wait till PC release.

gaunt hare
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Nobodies allowed to talk about it. My heart can't take it

winter yew
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But I know I'm gunna grab it before then.

gaunt hare
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Definitely grab it.

bronze wind
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That's my feeling as well

winter yew
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I'll pick it up as soon as the price drops, ain't no way I'm paying ยฃ59.99 for standard edition.

bronze wind
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Like, if I don't get it soon I'll just get it before the PC release anyway