@winter yew favorite MGS game?
#other-games
jade lake
winter yew
Oooo.
1
But in 4 when you go back to shadow Moses.
That hits me in the feels every time
jade lake
@winter yew 2's my personal favorite, but followed by 1 and 3, then 4. 4 is underrated as hell man, the ending is so fucking good
zealous kernel
mate, most of very good games are underrated and take for example FireWatch, VERY OUTSTANDINGG GAME ❤
jade lake
firewatch had its moments, but was kinda underwhelming IMO
winter yew
@rigid haven I wanna finish Signal From Tolva but it’s got some weird performance issues for me, like a kind of stutter sometimes. Not sure why, my pc should be able to handle it just fine.
cinder vessel
Maybe try turning down the shadow settings? It seems to not handle those very well at least on my end
primal inlet
I love that Ghost Recon Wildlands lets me dress as a Division agent because I own that game
light cairn
yes
rigid haven
When that happens to me, And damn right it does, I from and bear it
teal trench
Then there's the RuneScape stutters, where it randomly decides to quit using your gpu and 'hang' for a millisecond:
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lavish obsidian
teal trench
On top of temps above 80c, when you max it out:
Solid 60fps is a pipedream, even with overkill hardware.
It's just such an old game, with so many inconsistencies.
teal trench
blazing torrent
LOL
teal trench
@blazing torrent Uh... wait, what. It's none of my business, but may I ask why you're not a mod any more? I noticed matthew wasn't either, but now it's both of you.
Sorry. I should keep my nose out of other people's business.
brisk merlin
Lmao no one seems to care about gal
brisk merlin
4?
teal trench
o.o
Well, the minimum ram is 4GB, so... maybe you should be running in minimum.
You only have 2GB.
teal trench
Well, ram is weird. Everything can be running great, and then when Windows doesn't have enough memory to do something, it borks.
Do you know the specific error it threw?
The words on the blue screen.
rigid haven
I actually didn't read it, damn. I'm sure it was the usual "Windows ran into a problem"
teal trench
Well, that error can help diagnose the issue.
rigid haven
Time to try that again 😅
teal trench
When you get back on, would you mind running the windows event viewer?
rigid haven
Windows event viewer? Uh, I don't really know what that is, But sure
teal trench
This section, either under Critical, or Error: https://i.imgur.com/DDmLSXW.png
rigid haven
Ah
rigid haven
Yeah, Probably. That's, like, the third time total that that has happened
teal trench
When you find it, right click it and select this: https://i.imgur.com/29D4AKA.png
That will bring up a new screen, which will have all of the blue screens listed.
rigid haven
Ohh, right
teal trench
Clicking on the top one, will show exactly what caused it.
In my specific one, it shows this: https://i.imgur.com/zZJfSG0.png
rigid haven
I didn't even know that was a thing before
teal trench
Well, you learn something new every day lol.
Welcome to Windows debugging.
Did you find it?
rigid haven
Yup, thanks, just waiting for it to pop up
teal trench
o_o
rigid haven
Slow computer life ftw
teal trench
It should have been instant.
lavish obsidian
Another happy landing
teal trench
Wow.
rigid haven
"Adding snap-in to console"
teal trench
Um, what? o.o
rigid haven
No clue
teal trench
No, I mean where did you see that? Lol. It shouldn't be saying that in the event viewer.
It has nothing to do with it.
rigid haven
It was on a loading thingy
teal trench
o.o
rigid haven
Ah, It's reading Data, So it should pop up soon
teal trench
Erm..
rigid haven
Ha, It did it
teal trench
Woop, you really need a new pc lol...
rigid haven
Yup
lavish obsidian
Atleast something NOT Celeron.
teal trench
^
brisk merlin
Celeron
teal trench
Anywho, let me know when you get to that blue screen error message.
@rigid haven Oh, woops. I forgot one thing due to assuming you know how to operate it.
rigid haven
Oh?
teal trench
Once it opens, click this: https://i.imgur.com/LF7ThlZ.png
That will show this: https://i.imgur.com/BbpJMK3.png
Then expand the "Critical" [+] thing.
rigid haven
Oh yeah, I got that
Just gotta open up discord on my laptop and I'll show you the thing
Under the details or the general tab?
rigid haven
Much like a flower in spring, discord is taking blooming ages to open
rigid haven
Oh
teal trench
That's a power loss error.
brisk merlin
C o o l
teal trench
@rigid haven, try going here: https://i.imgur.com/g03lZtS.png
Is there a red (x) thing in that list?
Oops, red (!) thing.
rigid haven
Hmm
teal trench
Well, either way... I'm inclined to believe it was either from overheating, or not enough ram.
Rs3's minimum ram requirement is 4GB, and you only have 2.
teal trench
Um, the SynTPEnh.exe is the touchpad.
The thing you use to control your mouse.
"synaptics touchpad"
rigid haven
Oh
teal trench
knotty osprey
touchpad ran out of ram
teal trench
No, lol.
knotty osprey
i was joking
rigid haven
Nope, I use an external mouse
teal trench
Well, then yeah. You can get rid of it if it's causing crashes.
teal trench
It seems that Windows tries to update that driver at the same time as windows, so it may have replaced your old driver, and broke it.
That's the issue I'm seeing by Googling.
rigid haven
Oh
knotty osprey
i think its strange that the usual troubleshooting sentence, "try turning it on and off again" has the timeline backwards
if something isnt working you should turn it off, then turn it on again, instead of trying to turn the device on while its already running, then turning it off, right.
teal trench
I say the opposite, but yeah. I've seen people say it that way too.
knotty osprey
i usually see people say it that way lol
teal trench
@rigid haven https://i.imgur.com/iwgpV6d.png
I can't seem to find the "minimum" specs, but 4GB seems to be "recommended".
Also, worth looking at this since you're on a laptop: https://support.runescape.com/hc/en-gb/articles/205979101
rigid haven
Nice!
lavish obsidian
👏
teal trench
@rigid haven, I poked one of the NXT people for you: https://i.imgur.com/lOH1ayF.png
Would you be okay with doing what he suggested?
Lowering the gameworld render to 75%, which would make it look a bit jpeggy.
It would help performance a lot.
rigid haven
Oh? How can I do that?
teal trench
It's a matter of editing a value in the cache, via 'DB Browser for SQLite'. This: https://i.imgur.com/iL3nIle.png
rigid haven
Huh, alright, I'll see about doing that
teal trench
Make sure you click on this, after: https://i.imgur.com/b09btMC.png
rigid haven
Alright
teal trench
It's not technically an "official" feature yet, and is hidden away along with some other features inside the cache files.
Like DoF and GUI scale.
rigid haven
Those are things too? Neat
teal trench
@rigid haven https://i.imgur.com/DcHB8mD.png
rigid haven
Ah, right
cinder vessel
Ooh, this is pretty cool: https://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/984814887766577153
brisk merlin
dragon
rigid haven
Ohwowah
haughty rapids
anyone tried everspace? 🤔
cinder vessel
Wanted to, but haven't picked it up yet
light cairn
night!
uncut bramble
Night Dragon!
jade lake
anyone here played earthbound
teal trench
Oversized 2h sword, anyone? https://i.imgur.com/82MLpz2.png
rigid haven
Pshh, That's barely a normal-sized one handed sword
primal inlet
For some reason I'm desensitized to swords the size of the character wielding them, lol
teal trench
@rigid haven https://i.imgur.com/p09M6X4.png
teal trench
@rigid haven, this is the current largest sword ingame: https://i.imgur.com/Ff3cDAL.png
Makes the other one look like a stubby dagger, in comparison.
It's a white 2h
rigid haven
Woah, I really like your big sword
teal trench
It has the same bonuses as a black 2h sword, but for an unknown reason, the white 2h sword is very large compared to the black 2h sword, and is the largest 2h sword in the game.
It's a monstrosity of a sword.
rigid haven
The white one is bigger than the black one
royal tendon
That's a very nice sword
teal trench
Here's the black one: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Black_2h_sword
royal tendon
I prefer the white one for sure
teal trench
The tiny size makes the model's appearance, irrelevant. It's soooo small.
rigid haven
Well, it's not size, it's what you do with it
rigid haven
Oh damn, that is small
teal trench
Let me grab one ingame.
royal tendon
It's still a pretty big sword
teal trench
Here, I dropped them both on the floor for a better comparison: https://i.imgur.com/o7QSVLp.png
That's the top down view.
teal trench
Personally, I think it has to do with the White Knights of Falador; they're so full of themselves, and think they're better than everyone else lol. The "white" equipment is their equipment.
So, they probably made it larger on purpose.
rigid haven
Wait hold on
teal trench
The White Knights may not be as pure as they seem. Also, the Burthorpe Imperial Guard believes the White Knights have illegally taken control of the Kingdom of Asgarnia when King Vallance disappeared.
Yup, they're puns.
Every last one of them.
RuneScape is full of puns, and Monty Python style humour.
rigid haven
Oh... Good god
teal trench
The mightiest tree is the Grand Tree in the Tree Gnome Stronghold.
Yes, Tree Gnomes.
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royal tendon
25 hours in \o/
Running around doing fetch quests 😓
teal trench
rigid haven
Yup! Which is quite good
teal trench
On another note... really wish I could play maxed graphics, without my gpu overheating. It's sitting at 86c right now.
rigid haven
Damn, I wondered why you didn't use ultra graphics, with a rig like yours
teal trench
Yup, it's my own stupidity for buying a Founders Edition card.
They run way too hot no matter what you do.
rigid haven
Damn
teal trench
I mean, at least I know what I'm missing out on: https://i.imgur.com/mAcQ2hc.png
lavish obsidian
FE cards are bad.
teal trench
^
lavish obsidian
Fact
teal trench
Irrefutable fact.
They run hot, and perform far worse than any third-party ones, like ASUS.
I'd kill for a DirectCU II cooler right now.
As far as I'm aware, ASUS doesn't make those any more.
Something about them being too expensive to produce.
They were the king of the hill for air cooling, though.
rigid haven
Ha, My cooling system is me blowing into my keyboard and hoping that it goes through and cools down the internals
teal trench
@rigid haven, honestly... I would suggest just playing Osrs indefinitely, until you can get a better laptop/pc.
Rs3 is going to be really hard on it.
It's horribly unoptimised, and inconsistent.
rigid haven
Yeah, that's probably the best thing to do
But hey, This thing and I have gone through a lot together 
It should be able to magically run it occasionally
teal trench
Osrs was built to run on machines from 1995 - 300MHz processors and 256MB of ram.
rigid haven
Oh wow, Specs that I beat? I didn't know those existed
teal trench
For ancient games, yup.
RuneScape is one of the oldest MMOs in existence.
In the top three, for sure.
Ultima Online has it beat by a few years; I can't think of an older one than that.
rigid haven
Damn, It just hit me that it has been running for more than 20 years
rigid haven
Ahh, right
teal trench
And that's only if you want to be technical.
It was called "DeviousMUD" in 1998, and renamed to "RuneScape" in January 2001.
MUD means Multi User Dungeon.
rigid haven
Huh, Today I learned
teal trench
MUDs were the grandfathers of MMOs.
rigid haven
Really? I've never heard of them before. Neat!
teal trench
light cairn
good ol' multi user dungeons
teal trench
@rigid haven, from that Wikipedia article:
Games such as Meridian 59, EverQuest, Ultima Online and Dark Age of Camelot were routinely called graphical MUDs in their earlier years. RuneScape was actually originally intended to be a text-based MUD, but graphics were added very early in development. However, with the increase in computing power and Internet connectivity during the late nineties, and the shift of online gaming to the mass market, the term "graphical MUD" fell out of favor, being replaced by MMORPG, Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game, a term coined by Richard Garriott in 1997.
Woah, History
teal trench
@rigid haven, if you play Osrs, you can enjoy music like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJhF0L7pfo8
rigid haven
Ooo
teal trench
Or, masterpieces like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkR7zClEkAo
The Rs3 music just can't compare to the originals.
So, I play Rs3 muted. >.>
rigid haven
Haha, And put your own songs on while you play?
teal trench
I put on these good old .midi soundtracks; this specific channel has a massive playlist with all of the old music.
rigid haven
Ah, right, Sweet
brisk merlin
.midi
cinder vessel
teal trench
I wish I could get "into" Terraria. The two dimensional side-scroller thing is a major put-off, though.
The game's depth really intrigues me.
I'm usually the one toting around the saying "Graphics doesn't matter" and "content is more important", but Terraria is just too far backwards for me.
rigid haven
It's like minecraft with a more, uh, PvE feel
It's fine, though. I think a few people are kind of put off from terraria for a multitude of reasons
cinder vessel
lol
Terraria's fantasy vibe (i.e. no scifi tech, instead magic & the like) is kinda what put me off from it
Although if memory serves it does have a sweet as hell vine grapple thing
light cairn
the grapple hooks in terraria are great
strong hazel
terraria is amazing but it does feel kinda small to me personally. THere's a lot of gameplay depth and all that but not a lot of space, and the 2D can be off putting. but it's still a great game
light cairn
dunno, for a second i thought you meant small content-wise, since there was tons of updates since launch
winter yew
Do you think video games will eventually look this good ?
somber tulip
Someday. :P
cinder vessel
I'd rather not
agile raven
I love terraria
teal trench
Got my first ever "valuable" clue scroll reward: https://i.imgur.com/oADOPMi.png https://i.imgur.com/wxIjdFy.png
rigid haven
Woo! I don't know what it is, But Woo anyway!
brisk merlin
Nou
teal trench
@rigid haven, it's an extremely rare reward, with an excessively rare "drop rate". It's the most common one out of the five Treasure Trail dyes. http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Barrows_Dye
The drop chance of Barrows Dye is approximately 1/8533 (0.05858%) per reward spot from hard clues, and approximately 1/8389 (0.05959%) per reward spot from elite clues.
It's basically an item that's consumed, to dye a piece of equipment.
lavish obsidian
like how ramsey doesn't like his meat
winter yew
new Indie Game! http://www.mobiusdigitalgames.com/outer-wilds.html
winter yew
Indeed !
rigid haven
Oh wow, that sounds cool
Though also kinda stressful if everything starts changing with time
Kinda like that one FMV game thing, Night Trap, was it? Trying to see the story whilst making sure you don't lose is...quite a feat
winter yew
What i like so much about Indie Games, it's mostly a new IP a new start of something new.
winter yew
^^
royal tendon
Night trap is really silly
rigid haven
Yup, I prefer Her Story in terms of FMV games
winter yew
I'm glad #other-games has been added, whas awhile ago but still enjoying it xD
rigid haven
I'm not really sure if it means there should be no game talk in general or what, but I, too, am quite happy this is here
uncut bramble
game talk is fine here too really 😃 #other-games is there for more concentrated talk, but anything goes here xD
winter yew
#other-games is probably to prevent invasive talking about one specific other game like players
that play League Of Legends a lot xD
uncut bramble
haha, it was mainly for the minecrafters when that went big
winter yew
Haha, i remember that
It whas getting out of hand, the NMS vibe almost went gone or whas gone actually :p
uncut bramble
I didn't mind it at all. There's a lot of likeminded people here
I joined the minecraft server and there was a lot of hard work in there
winter yew
Ah, i see xD
i almost thaught it whas for No Man's Sky or something
uncut bramble
Kind of an official unoffical server for NMS fans 😃
rigid haven
Oh, Any of you heard of Piku Niku? It's a new game that Devolver is publishing
bright lake
What game should i play rn
bright lake
welp
rigid haven
Well, there's Runescape
bright lake
my message got deleted?
rigid haven
Oh, It's cheap enough during steam sales, Don't do that
Yeah, uh,
That's not exactly on the legitimate side, if you get my meaning
rigid haven
Hmm, What games do you usually play?
rigid haven
Osu is a neat free rhythm game, but it's not really for everyone
uncut bramble
There's some good streaming sites that will give you a ton of games (some of them even have free trials).
Rime normally turns up on those - it's a great game and a vast change from FPS - great for just relaxing with
rigid haven
Uh, Hmm
I can't seem to think of many Free to Play games
You Have 10 Seconds is free, and is kinda short
(and I'm in the credits 
)
uncut bramble
Ohh, what are you credited as Woop?
rigid haven
Oh right
I gave the dev a few ideas, and since it was only me and him, he decided to make credits
uncut bramble
That's so awesome! nice one !
rigid haven
Most of them are him, I think I'm under "Additional Help"
Markiplier played it, too. My phone exploded with messages from the dev once that happened
Oops, I'm bragging, Anyway...hmm
Toribash is a thing
Oh! And Awesomenauts
uncut bramble
haha, no harm in some bragging 😏
rigid haven
As for games that you need Money to buy, There are a ton that are really super good
NieR Automata, Va-11 Hall-a, Red Strings Club, Cuphead, Crypt of the Necrodancer, Shovel Knight
Cave Story is free, the original one, at least
uncut bramble
I hear so many people raving about Crypt of the Necrodancer
I haven't checked it out yet
It's on switch now too
rigid haven
Yeah, It's great if you're into dungeon-crawling and rhythm games
The music is kinda great, too
rigid haven
Haha, You should check it out one day, whether it be through a video or playing it yourself
Ohh, yeah
Orwell is great
I know a lot of good games because somebody kept telling me about a ton of neat ones
uncut bramble
I got Orwell, but haven't fully started it yet. It looks great!
rigid haven
Yeah, It is! It's more of an interactive story than a game, though, so keep that in mind while playing it
uncut bramble
Oh yeah for sure, like TBW
bright lake
rythmn game?
rigid haven
You know, Do things to the beat of a song
rigid haven
DDR and such, but in more unique ways
Yeah
In Osu you click circles, COTND can be played with a dance pad, but is a dungeon crawler where you have to do inputs to the beat
rigid haven
Anytime!
rigid haven
Yup! Everyone who was toxic was filtered out due to the, uh, less than optimal launch of NMS
bright lake
yeah i heard about that launch
rigid haven
Though we have had some people here who were slightly undesirable
rigid haven
Oh, it's alright, they're not here anymore
One of the most notorious is a shitposter who goes by the name of one of the days of the week. Rumour has it that, if you say his name 3 times in the mirror, he comes out and spams you with all sort of nonsense
We owe the niceness of the community to the mods, though, They're great!
bright lake
Yes thank you mod
rigid haven
Oh yeah, Oneshot is a thing, too. It's awesome. Pick it up when you have the chance!
It's kinda like undertale but with no battles and a focus on storytelling
bright lake
Paid also?
rigid haven
Yup, But it will go on sale occasionally
Actually, Try Mad Father
That's free, and great
rigid haven
Sorry, Once I get started about games, It's hard to stop 😅
bright lake
nah its fine
jade lake
someone name some games with good osts
rigid haven
Hmm
royal tendon
Bastion too, but transistor has the best out of the three supergiant games imo
Just about any persona game
rigid haven
I think Supergiant as a whole make good games
rigid haven
I really have to get those
royal tendon
I do wish they made more stuff
rigid haven
Bastion especially
royal tendon
I'd love to own transistor
rigid haven
Maybe you'll get lucky in the whole GOG thing tomorrow 👀
royal tendon
Oh shoot, I need to fill in that wish list
Then again, transistor was a 2014 game or something, no?
rigid haven
Yeah, I think so
Oh, man, I still haven't played Oxenfree
Oh, Undertale has a nice soundtrack as well
Uh, though I don't doubt you've heard of that
royal tendon
The people at Night School (oxenfree devs) have a new project coming
I forgot the title, but it sounds like they're gonna up the comedy a little bit and make your choices matter more. We'll see 😛
rigid haven
Oh yeah, wasn't it that hell one?
rigid haven
Haha, I always have the time
rigid haven
I know the question was posed a damn while ago, but Furi has a neat soundtrack, too
"Thus begins Afterparty, an adventure game set around one debaucherous night of a pub crawl in Hell where your ultimate goal is to make it to Satan’s exclusive afterparty, convince him to challenge you to a drink-off, and then subsequently defeat the Prince of Darkness in said drink-off"
Afterparty is starting to sound amazing
cinder vessel
wonderful*
uncut bramble
This is one of the games from one of the WARE indie partners
It looks pretty awesome! 😮
cinder vessel
To the best of our knowledge, just part of the ARG
I mean the tech is also just way out there anyway
rigid haven
Oh woah
cinder vessel
Ooh, if you want a solid local coop game, this is a great deal: http://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS/?newsId=39105
rigid haven
Oh, I remember when that was free on PS+ or something
It has some weird global thingy
cinder vessel
That's part of the fun 😄
winter yew
Yea
I played it on my vita for a tiny bit
Got kinda discouraged by the difficulty curve
Reminds me of Alien Swarm on Steam
primal inlet
holy crap, the final area of the Witness is intense and super fucking cool
like no spoilers but
primal inlet
it's honestly kinda what I'd like if my "puzzle dungeons in NMS" idea ever came to fruition...except with more than just line puzzles 😉
rigid haven
Oh hey, neat!
https://www.fanatical.com/en/bundle/fear-bundle
I remember seeing Fear as a kid, It scared the absolute everything out of me
I was scared of the dark for a while after seeing a few spooky bits
brisk merlin
spok
cinder vessel
Witness kinda bugs me
light cairn
fear 3 is a decently fun coop game, but the original game is legitimately fun
royal mirage
Original is amazingly crazy
Especially when slide kicking in slow motion as you shoot your way through the enemies
dual pistols all the way, man
cinder vessel
I enjoyed it a bunch but...can only vaguely remember much of it? 🤔
light cairn
the gameplay is the biggest part, slowmo and melee in it are so good
cinder vessel
I hardly remember finding those all that necessary
It was just kind of, "These are here...Use'em if ya want, we guess?"
light cairn
that's like the whole point of what makes it fun
also the AI is actually really really good
like still better than a lot of today's stuff
cinder vessel
I guess? I just never felt any need to go, "whoa slowmo!"
It was just as quick to shoot'em normally, lol
royal mirage
It makes for cool action sequences
And the fact that the bullet holes left over weren't even decals
Like, you were actually chipping away at the walls
primal inlet
you ever get stuck on a puzzle, and you know exactly what the end goal is, but you can't quite figure out how to get it
because I'm there right now
and it's physically painful
teal trench
^
primal inlet
slider puzzles are just
teal trench
This is the end result:
primal inlet
ouch, not a good time
teal trench
@rigid haven You know that dye I got from that clue scroll? I had to go through innumerous puzzles.
teal trench
@rigid haven Sorry, had to go afk. No, I have little to no patience, and an extremely short fuse. I know I was called (by innumerous foster parents) "that demon child", because I was always extremely angry and upset, and destructive. Violence was always my first choice. I was shipped in and out of so many homes, because of that - I was a "problem child". No one wanted me, and the ones that did eventually got sick of me, or scared of me. Sadly, it was only recently (maybe 2014) that I stopped destroying my own stuff. It was my stupid anger, that made me realise I had to learn how to build and repair pcs... because my anger made me wanting to own a computer, a very expensive upkeep. Lag? Computer gets a quick flight lesson, where it inevitably smashes against the wall. Idiot decides to be rude/mean? Keyboard, and tower likely suffers damage. Disconnect? Everything gets destroyed.
Now, stack all of this on top of an extremely low IQ, and you have someone who wants to do the puzzles, but is mentally incapable of doing so. Every slider puzzle for me, is multiple hours of stupidity-induced rage, where I stupidly refuse to give up, but stupidly can't solve it. This wouldn't be the case if these puzzles were always the same and had reproducible steps. I could easily look up a guide and just follow it in a matter of moments. However, this isn't the case and the puzzles are randomised every single time. It's different for every person. On top of this, closing out the puzzle erases your progress and randomises the pieces.
rigid haven
God damn. I'm the same with slider puzzles. They're so bad but really hard to stop just in case you magically find a way to solve it in the next couple of moves
And don't even get me started on the times when you have it all perfect except two pieces which should be in eachother's place
teal trench
RubixCube.jpg
rigid haven
I've had 3 rubix cubes
primal inlet
It does seem like there should be some kind of algorithm for those puzzles
rigid haven
There is?
teal trench
That Wiki link is the page that describes it.
rigid haven
I just rotate the pieces around the centre and hope it all works out
teal trench
@primal inlet https://i.imgur.com/ZHKp3QQ.png
primal inlet
Isn't a good sliding puzzle algorithm just a set of steps to get one piece to another place?
Yeah ok
rigid haven
Ohhh
primal inlet
Rubik's cube, there are a bunch of little methods you can do to get X piece to Y spot
teal trench
This is the chart and colours those instructions are referring to:
rigid haven
Yeah, you posted it earlier. God damn, that's really helpful
primal inlet
should be similar here, but I guess nobody's developed the exact methods
teal trench
I'm sure someone has.
Rubix cubes have been around too long, for there not to be guides.
Again though, those instructions depend heavily on one's intelligence. For someone as stupid as me, you might as well be speaking chinese.
I'm sure Woop can do it, though.
rigid haven
Aww, you give me too much credit
Computers and the like are waay out of my grasp, but I was rewarded as someone who knew what to do with them because I got lucky. Everyone has things they're good at, though
Heh, maybe you should take up coding or something. You might be good 
teal trench
Intelligence is not the same as knowledge. An idiot (me) can know how to type properly, and know how to build a pc, and learn about computer hardware. That doesn't make me "smart". It makes me knowledgeable about those topics.
Intelligence is the ability to piece things together on your own, improvise, and that sorta thing.
rigid haven
Ohh, right. People have said that intelligence =! Knowledge, But I never got that until now
Yeah, I'm far from smart
teal trench
And no, lol... coding is the bane of my existence. I've tried to get into Java, and HTML, and CSS, but it was like beating my head against a brick wall, for all the good it did.
Always in one ear, and out the other.
rigid haven
Ah, right
teal trench
Hardware is my thing, whereas software might as well be an alien language.
rigid haven
Huh, yeah, that's, uh, my weakpoint
I could probably throw together a computer, sure, but I wouldn't be able to tell you what specs are good specs, or anything like that
cinder vessel
it's that big number
did you know FFXV is the best Final Fantasy?
'cause big number
teal trench
The first Final fantasy on the NES, from 1987 is the best one. >.>
cinder vessel
nah it doesn't even have a number
rigid haven
Haha, Somehow I expected you to say that
cinder vessel
best game is pong end of
rigid haven
I've only played 7
teal trench
@rigid haven, regarding the computer hardware stuff again, my knowledge about hardware is self taught, with no actual classes.
Idk proper names/phrases of a lot of things, and explaining stuff to people is extremely difficult without the help of Google. When it's in my hands irl, I'm fine because I know where/what everything is, and how it functions. "This doohickey goes here, and does this. That thingamabob connects to that." kinda stuff.
Also, the majority of my hardware knowledge is mostly Intel and Nvidia, so a lot of AMD's stuff (unless it's much, much older) I tend to be ignorant about. Back when AMD was actually able to compete at the top levels, I used them and knew about them. A lot has changed since then, and they're only at the mid, low, and "lower" high-end areas right now. I know bits and bobs about motherboards, psus, and other components, but it pales in comparison to what I know about processors and graphics cards. So, one could say that I'm kinda ignorant about anything other than those two categories.
rigid haven
I think somebody once told me that a static shock can destroy an entire motherboard, So I can break a computer pretty easily, That's about it, though
teal trench
Um... an actual shock can cause problems, yes. Like say you rubbed your socked feet on the carpet and whatever on purpose, to try and generate a charge, before touching something. That can cause a temporary "failure". As in, it won't function at all, until the static dissipates.
The whole thing about having to wear gloves, and not touching the metal bits, is a load of bollocks.
Same with the wire management thing.
I wish people would quit spreading that rubbish around.
rigid haven
Haha
primal inlet
...I thought it was just a lucky miracle that my PC has worked for a year straight
welp, good to know
light cairn
i've accidentally shocked my front panel and it restarted my computer
teal trench
^
cinder vessel
pro techies know that frequent shocks to PC components keep them running longer 😈
teal trench
Lol, if only...
I'd love to give my old Prescott 2M Extreme Edition a shock, to make it live again.
Poor thing burned itself out, from too much usage.
light cairn
you just haven't given it a big enough shock
rigid haven
Better overused than underused, I guess
light cairn
holds back joke
teal trench
.>
lavish obsidian
a little bio-shock
teal trench
My warped mind already thinks it knows what you'd say.
rigid haven
Oh skip, you're such a merry prankster!
light cairn
i'm 100% sure no one could guess it
teal trench
The internet has ruined me.
primal inlet
fucking hell, Witness is just
amazing
Puzzles are stupidly hard, but they keep surprising me with interesting twists
and it's all line puzzles
cinder vessel
The art is good, the whatever the fuck it's trying to say is whatever
primal inlet
I haven't gotten to the end yet but I've heard it's barely less disappointing than NMS
cinder vessel
some of its puzzles piss me off because they expect correct color vision & good hearing
cinder vessel
The former fortunately I have, but the latter is a bit...Iffy, like I can hear pretty well, but some of it is stupid subtle
primal inlet
I still haven't finished the (implied) puzzle set based on sound because the one I'm on is too confusing
cinder vessel
Worse still, some of it seems to just appear outta nowhere, with no prior link to other puzzle solutions
So you get to it, and it's just like, "Wait what am I even doing here?"
And your only real solution, outside of using a FAQ, is to just beat your head against it till you catch the dumb unique thing
light cairn
the sound area is a pain in the ass
cinder vessel
But it's not just the sound area, it sort of reemerges elsewhere
And it's way, way fuck you
The Witness really comes across as one big fuck you in terms of some of its gameplay
Which sucks because the island itself is fucking lovely
primal inlet
I can think of a single puzzle that's solely, entirely, a massive "fuck you"
I'm probably missing some though
light cairn
jon blow is unforgiving
cinder vessel
Have you found some of the side/"secret" puzzles where it hides the lines and some of the dots from you (if I remember right)?
Jon Blow is an ass, lol
primal inlet
...There are some puzzles like that in the finale, but I don't remember any in the rest of the island
rigid haven
Jon Blow can definitely blow something....
primal inlet
IIRC there's a particular puzzle in Witness that requires like half an hour of waiting for the right moment
light cairn
god damn
cinder vessel
What really started to kill the Witness for me was recognizing I was solving puzzle after puzzle for next to no payoff
light cairn
shh i still need to watch that
primal inlet
I mean, I just like seeing what comes next
The only real area where it goes "here, have a bunch of puzzles to """"test"""" your """"skills"""" lol" is the town (and a secret place™)
Everywhere else, it's constantly iterating on ideas and mechanics
royal mirage
I don't even understand half of the puzzles
cinder vessel
I don't care much for raw mechanical iteration without much narrative unless it's an arcade style game
light cairn
yeah, the witness is more for hardcore puzzle fans
who for just the act of solving is all they need
cinder vessel
I had hoped there'd be a mystery or narrative to it =/
royal mirage
Like the Talos Principle?
cinder vessel
Talos Principle, from even the demo alone, is so much better than The Witness
primal inlet
oh, FUCK OFF
light cairn
._.
light cairn
primal inlet
I think I just got a big fuck you from the witness
lavish obsidian
cinder vessel
Jonathan Blow hates everyone
lavish obsidian
Braid was good
ocean wind
I looked up half of the puzzles in the Witness lol
it's too fucking hard
I don't have time for it all
cinder vessel
Every one of Jonathan Blow's games so far is a plus in terms of the artwork, and in Braid's case art & music, but not too much else, lol
light cairn
i got stuck in one point in braid cause i too big a dumb for him apparently
cinder vessel
The gameplay is always just, "Let me just take this much further than any reasonable person would"
primal inlet
I mean, I like that, it's just that it's also painful
light cairn
i don't think it teaches the player properly a lot of the time (braid, and the witness at times)
cinder vessel
It's pointless most of the time. It's not like he's pushing some tech that others could use
lavish obsidian
Mhmm
royal mirage
I got that one laser thing working, and everything else went downhill from there
cinder vessel
I wouldn't be so rough about it, had it some narrative context to make it more interesting 🤷
primal inlet
The island does seem like it's got a narrative thing going on...until (I'm unfortunately aware) it doesn't
cinder vessel
Like you almost think the statues are a hint of some weird incident, but the more you notice they just fold into puzzles the more you're like, "Oh fuck off"
primal inlet
...Well, the finale area too
lavish obsidian
I liked the meta ending though
cinder vessel
Then again I also didn't care for the inclusion of random ass videos
Cool art, cool art, brrrpt, "Hey here's video from reality"
cinder vessel
Didn't mind those as much
primal inlet
Just wondering, because that's actually my thought exactly
ocean wind
the videos are also really fucking long
primal inlet
yeah
also there's a puzzle in one of the videos that also takes a fucking long time to solve
cinder vessel
Audio blends better than a sharp cut to video with a completely different visual than the game
The Witness to me is largely:
-Beautiful island
-Some clever puzzles
-Okay you've overdone this
-Where's my fucking payoff Jonathan Blow, what's even going on with this island
-Oh fuck me you're really doing this stupid intelligence fetish thing to the core, huh?
-This is going nowhere but deeper up your ass, fuck off Jonathan Blow
primal inlet
lol
That was Yahtzee's description, wasn't it? "Slowly crawling up a very nicely decorated and interesting ass"
cinder vessel
I dunno, I don't follow Yahtzee
primal inlet
Either way, it says something that two people would use the same turn of phrase to describe the game
cinder vessel
I just know the more I played of The Witness, the less I appreciated the cleverness and the more pissed I was that the entire island felt like a hollow idol to a superficial admiration of the pursuit of knowledge
It offers numerous perspectives on that pursuit but says nothing itself, so far as I could tell
That all said...Gemini Rue and Primordia are fun puzzle games
And they try to say stuff
lavish obsidian
Ah
rare coral
the one that resets?
primal inlet
Yes
rare coral
yea streamer I watched had the same reaction
primal inlet
I mean, the cinematography was cool, but I want answers
light cairn
it resets!?!?!/
primal inlet
It puts you in a new save, but you can go back to your old one with a single click
light cairn
oh ok
rare coral
yea
primal inlet
like I immediately did
haven't done four of the lasers or most of the secrets
Oh, but the meta ending is cool so far
at least the way they've done the credits
...I'm not entirely sure that this isn't a W/ARE tie-in
rare coral
the witness?
primal inlet
yes
rare coral
didnt it come out awhile ago?
primal inlet
I know 2 years
light cairn
the long con
primal inlet
is it spoilers to talk about an ending with no leadup or foreshadowing?
light cairn
well, it's an ending, is it not?
primal inlet
I suppose
brisk merlin
What a good game
winter yew
❤
brisk merlin
💙
teal trench
agile raven
Subnautica is legendary
lavish obsidian
I agree
rigid haven
Huh, You know, wizard man spouts some truth
teal trench
Urgh. the Witcher 3 is chock-full of the exact same graphical flaws that Skyrim has, with high resolution texture packs. Like they slapped high res textures on it, and didn't think about the clipping.
Looks nice, as long as you don't look too closely.
rigid haven
Oh, you got it?
rigid haven
Neat! I've kinda been put-off because of the "3"
teal trench
lavish obsidian
HALF LIFE 3
teal trench
Turns out I was right.
The screenshots and videos told the whole story.
Kinda disappointed, but I expected this.
@rigid haven: https://i.imgur.com/JFmdfyb.png
So far, what Leon said is right.
brisk merlin
Subnautica is best game
winter yew
that has been established, yes
cinder vessel
too bad it's like a really good cake
munch it & savor it...Then you have to wait awhile before you can make it again & enjoy it as much as before
unless you're one of those mad people that can replay stuff right after thoroughly playing something, in which case, props to ya
teal trench
This kinda stuff in rpgs, annoys the hell out of me: https://i.imgur.com/Lq2utAf.png
I don't want to say the wrong thing and get reprimanded or whatever.
I'd choose option 1
Idk anything about the story though.
If it's against his character.
strong hazel
oh don‘t worry, you can miss out on stuff in the witcher 3 by picking something over the other, but there‘s no wrong choice
There will always be something to it, not like the game ends cause you made a „wrong choice“
teal trench
Well, I've a few nitpicks with it so far, but the game is ... enjoyable, so far. I can't say I don't like it.
I haven't played 1 or 2, either.
Biggest nitpick so far, is the movement. It feels so clunky and unresponsive.
Especially in combat.
It's gonna get me killed, eventually.
iron inlet
Yeah the movement is difficult
Try using the alternative movement response in the settings
That helped me out a lot
But movement can definitely get you killed in The Witcher; got me killed a lot
iron inlet
Good idea then 🙂
But yeah I played the shit out of TW3
I ended up finishing it at NG++ and at level 100 with all dlc done and the ideal route complete
Who did that react I’m on mobile I can’t see 
rigid haven
It was the person
iron inlet
Woop 
rigid haven
You know, that person
teal trench
@iron inlet https://i.imgur.com/juO9sxT.png
iron inlet
Wednesday is here? 😉
brisk merlin
Open mouf
rigid haven
Oh dear, I've been revealed!
iron inlet
Woop it was you and Leon too
brisk merlin
Lemon
iron inlet
Both of you
rigid haven
Leon was the original, I'm simply a copy-cat
iron inlet
Ahh okay
rigid haven
Also, you can see who reacted on mobile
iron inlet
Lies
iron inlet
I don’t have that option
rigid haven
Are you clicking a message with reactions on it?
rigid haven
Huh
brisk merlin
Gaff
rigid haven
Odd
iron inlet
Giff
teal trench
@rigid haven Try it now? reminded me of this image: https://i.imgur.com/WmDlHoS.png
rigid haven
I've actually never touched cow
brisk merlin
TOUCH IT OR YOUR FAMILY DIES
iron inlet
I don’t know if I’ve touched a cow ngl
I mean
I touched one of my exes
Does that count?
cinder vessel
🎮
rigid haven
Don't moan the control
cinder vessel
games we game you game that game
iron inlet
W/RE - Moan Better
lavish obsidian
cinder vessel
no see that's B/-RE, Oh Better
lavish obsidian
cinder vessel
can't just repeat moan
cinder vessel
haunt haunt
lavish obsidian
👻
brisk merlin
Haunt the haunt
lavish obsidian
Taunt the Haunt
teal trench
Hmm, 'standard' movement is even worse than 'alternative'.
@iron inlet, is there any way to turn off the auto-run when holding W?
It's kind of annoying.
strong hazel
do you have a controller? If so, I found that playing tw3 with controller works better than kb+m and I normally don‘t like playing with a controller
teal trench
Yup, just a cheap xBox 360 "afterglow" controller. It's a knock-off one, not a MS one.
I'd use it, but the bottom stick is heavily overused.
It gets stuck.
And it sits slightly off-centre, so the character will list a bit no matter what.
strong hazel
I think you can change walking speed with ctrl if that‘s what you mean
teal trench
No, it's not what I mean at all lol.
When I hold the W key to walk somewhere, Geralt automatically starts running without any other buttons pressed.
I want to walk.
Not run.
strong hazel
I think what he does on w is just his running, and if you press ctrl on a default setup it should switch to walking
strong hazel
Yeah, geralt is pretty fast, but at least there‘s a lore explanation for it
Cause he‘s an enhanced witcher and all that
teal trench
Urgh, so much clipping...
Ran through some doors, and my screen started flashing/shaking until I turned the camera.
It got stuck on the door.
These doors: https://i.imgur.com/SstQ3bP.png
@strong hazel https://gfycat.com/ObeseSatisfiedGalah
Why does this stuff happen...
strong hazel
Oh wow
Never seen that
I don‘t know a lot about software and all that but could it be that your graphics drivers aren‘t up to date? I had a similar problem in AC:O and it was fixed by updating my drivers
teal trench
Nope, I've the latest driver: https://i.imgur.com/U3uhqNV.png
teal trench
I've been having tonnes of graphical bugs like those doors; not just door related.
strong hazel
Damn
teal trench
Movement is horribly slow to respond, and has almost killed me twice now. It's literally an exact replica of GTA V's movement system. That disgusting "realistic physics" thing, where it tries to act like irl.
strong hazel
I only ever had one floating drowner in tw3 and no other bugs, have you tried revalidating the gamefiles yet? Maybe that helps
teal trench
Validating the files was the first thing I did.
strong hazel
Oh yeah the movement delay on turning is strange too
If you use the updated movement option it should adjust it a bit
They implemented that to help with the delay while still keeping the turning animations
teal trench
strong hazel
huh
Yeah alternative is still different to a lot of games but you‘ll get used to it quickly. But it‘s probably more noticeable with kb+m than with controller
Cause kb+m are way more precise
teal trench
Well, first impressions so far is pretty bad. Lots of issues, lots of annoyances, and disappointment galore.
Also, idk what "kb+M" means.
Sorry.
strong hazel
Keyboard+mouse
teal trench
Oh
strong hazel
but yeah, that sucks... hope you can fix it or it fixes itsself, cause the story and world is amazing imo
teal trench
The graphics are especially disappointing. I was led (misled. >.>) to believe they were "amazing". Turned out - even in max - to just look like Skyrim with a high res texture pack slapped on it. The models are clipping with the textures in all movement.
strong hazel
You don‘t like the graphics? I always thought they looked pretty good
teal trench
The faces are horrible, too. Everyone looks like they've had a high injection of botox to make their faces look stiff.
They barely respond, and the lips are so stiff and out of sync with the dialog.
strong hazel
huh
Never noticed the lips out of sync, but I guess I‘m used to that cause I don‘t play everything in english
But yeah the faces aren‘t that good, you‘ll also notice a lot of npc‘s looking similar
I hope you can still enjoy the game even though it does seem to have some bugs for you!
brisk merlin
I didn't like the witcher 3
lavish obsidian
Hahaha
brisk merlin
Yes
teal trench
... and all of a sudden, my HP started draining of its own accord. Nothing was attacking me, I wasn't in combat, and I hadn't been anywhere near anything hostile. Yet, it just randomly started draining at a steady rate and killed me.
I'm done.
uncut bramble
you might have been poisoned or something
There's buffs show at the top of the screen if you're infect irrc
teal trench
There've been enough problems so far (up in chat history), that I just don't want to have anything more to do with the game. It's to the point where it's too much, and making me angry.
Waste of time and money, but oh well.
uncut bramble
Aw, damn! Sorry you don't like it 😦
But if it's making you angry, you're right to get out of there lol
rigid haven
Yup!
knotty osprey
okay
my laptop is too shitty to run fortnite
fortnite needs an intel HD 4000 as a minimum GPU
my laptop has a nvidia NVS 4200m
and apparently
the NVS 4200m, a dedicated GPU, has a worse performance than the Intel HD 4000.
rigid haven
Just get it on that, then
knotty osprey
i do
rigid haven
Fortnite seems like it'll have very limited appeal, anyway
knotty osprey
I have it on that, but I was just pointing out that my laptop has a GPU which is pure shit
knotty osprey
it was fun for a while, then I stopped playing for a long time.
lavish obsidian
Short lifespan I expect
rigid haven
I still like the whole hero shooter genre, even though I don't play any games of it much
knotty osprey
it’s not really my type of game, but it can be fun
teal trench
This is possibly the most terrifying creeper texture bug I've ever come across:
rigid haven
Good God, that is horrifying
teal trench
Oh, neat. I found a screenie of my first "big" castle, from 1.2.5, in 2012: https://i.imgur.com/NXCdrDW.png
lavish obsidian
1.2.5 was my favorite era
rigid haven
Oh my god. I've always tried to make giant castles but I'm never creative enough to do so. That's awesome
rigid haven
CnU?
rigid haven
Haha, This is amazing
sleek shadow
I remember building this scrawny boye ages ago
Lmao so many lighting glitches and the colors are so bad
rigid haven
Oh woah 😮
daring badge
7 year old walks in “LETZZZ PLAY STTSTHOME MMMIIINNEECCRRAAFFTTZZZ”
primal inlet
let's not
bleak otter
Riff Racer on sale for $2.50
primal inlet
so worth it
light cairn
that's not ridge racer
bleak otter
No it's not. It's a race your own mp3s game.
Although it's more about drifting and catching air than racing.
light cairn
maybe i'll check it out 
bleak otter
If you've got a bunch of mp3s on your PC, I'd recommend it.
primal inlet
I'm honestly surprised nobody's partnered with Spotify and made the ultimate music powered procedural generation game yet
I mean you can find the MP3s for most any song with enough effort but
light cairn
no
bleak otter
Yeah Spotify integration would be awesome
Audiosurf 2 does YouTube and Last.fm (I think), which isn't bad.
bleak otter
Maybe that's what what it is. I only use my own songs and YT on it.
brisk merlin
you can partner up last fm and spotify
winter yew
Yes I was looking at Riff Racer but it just reminds me too much of DISTANCE
Which has a slightly different concept of ‘generated’ tracks.
brisk merlin
seeee
bleak otter
I never played Distance but I remember looking at it.
winter yew
Rather than making tracks based off of the music, the game’s visuals play off the beat of the music
brisk merlin
👀
winter yew
The tracks are generated by seeds like Minecraft worlds
bleak otter
That's kinda cool.
winter yew
So I could put in ‘devinup’ and get a track that might be cool :p