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royal tendon
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It really is

light cairn
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you'd think cause of the style it wouldn't be but it actually is

royal tendon
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You need some great internet

teal trench
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I've honestly never even tried overwatch. I saw that huge ... "thing" about Tracer's butt, and Blizzard taking it down, and the internet going mad about it. That was the first, and only time I read anything about Overwatch. The drama was insane.

royal tendon
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Dan from EC explained it

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Or at least, gave an explanation that seemed logical and understandable

gaunt hare
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I mean, to be fair the internet only made you think it was that big of a deal.

teal trench
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"That image offends me. Don't talk to me, or my son ever again."

light cairn
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the butt thing was so dumb

royal tendon
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The first 15 minutes or so is about pose design though, so if you wanna skip that go right ahead

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It did feel a bit dumb till I watched this 😅

gaunt hare
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I understand that it didn't fit her character, but outrage isn't the right reaction.

cinder vessel
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i've said it before and i stand by it that Overwatch shoulda been a CG show with the game coming in later as a tie-in

gaunt hare
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People should care about more important things

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That's a horrible idea

light cairn
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well it was like the weird re-purposing of Titan

royal tendon
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Mhmm

cinder vessel
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Overwatch is better as a dumb, goofy series of wonky characters doing stuff than a game, but that's just me, lol

teal trench
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Oh, I guess I ought to clarify - I found the drama to be stupid, and insane. Not the choice Blizzard made. The rubbish that people on the Net decided to start, is what I find to be ridiculous

cinder vessel
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I get way more enjoyment out of the OW shorts & silly fan stuff than the game itself

royal tendon
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Maybe we'll get an Overwatch Go, kinda like teen titans go GWchinaSakuraThinking

light cairn
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yeah, what Flan said

teal trench
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Blizzard can do whatever they want with their assets. They own it.

royal tendon
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Indeed

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

light cairn
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alright so now what

rigid haven
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Drama about Tracer's butt?

teal trench
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Yup

rigid haven
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Wait, wait, that was a real thing?

silver garnet
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ok

teal trench
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Yes lol.

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Hello, Spaceman.

cinder vessel
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for some vocal minorities

teal trench
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^

cinder vessel
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KEEP DAT BOOTY, DA BOOTY IS OUTTA CHARACTER

royal tendon
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🙌 check the vid I linked up there Woop

silver garnet
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hi @teal trench

light cairn
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using steven universe as a reference 👌

royal tendon
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xD

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Pose, pose, pose, and pose

cinder vessel
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I hope Sea of Thieves picks up

gaunt hare
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Dude same

royal tendon
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Mhmm

gaunt hare
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I hope it comes to PS4 too

cinder vessel
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I don't have it, but I like watching it for now

gaunt hare
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I wanna be a pirate

light cairn
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never gonna come to PS4

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Rare is a 1st party developer

royal tendon
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😢

gaunt hare
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DONT YOU SAY THAT

light cairn
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it's a fact

cinder vessel
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Your best bet for pirate game is Ubisoft now

rigid haven
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I wish they showed of cowboy man's but

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"It's high moon"

gaunt hare
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DONT YOU DO ME LIKE THAT

light cairn
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just like Bloodborne is never coming to Xbox

royal tendon
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Ahhhh

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Skull and bones

rigid haven
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What?

royal tendon
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Coming this year was it?

teal trench
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Am I the only one who has never watched these new ... uh, "cartoons", like steven universe and adventure time? Idk jack squat about them, other than people won't stop talking about them, and they're kinda creepy/weird.

cinder vessel
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Skull and Bones looks a tad too edgy for my tastes, but eh

royal tendon
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I never watched steven universe either

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Except this one episode on an airplane

light cairn
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i don't follow the "fandom" or anything at all, i just like the show

rigid haven
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Yeah, it seems too story-oriented for my tastes

royal tendon
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😅

teal trench
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o.o

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But..

royal tendon
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The music covers I see are great though GWnanamiAquaThumbsUp

rigid haven
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Simply angry eyes? Not even "Woop, what does that even mean?"

light cairn
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it means you're dumb /s

royal tendon
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xD

rigid haven
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I remember an undertale version of one of the songs

cinder vessel
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I can dig small amounts of the new stuff but trying to follow them is, eh. Regular Show/Adventure Time/Steven Universe are all fun here & there

teal trench
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Story driven is the only reason I watch something, lol. I don't like "episodic" shows, where every new episode is a different story.

royal tendon
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I miss shows like the original teen titans

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😓

teal trench
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^

light cairn
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Steven Universe has a really good overarching plot

gaunt hare
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Classic

light cairn
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imo

rigid haven
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I like story driven things, but it seems too story driven

sleek shadow
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Finally

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Got the right symbol

royal tendon
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What does that even mean

gaunt hare
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You're a hard woop to please

royal tendon
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Yes

sleek shadow
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It took forever to find the correct alpha symbol

cinder vessel
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Probably like you can't miss a beat or you'll get really lost

rigid haven
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It means that I'd watch it when it ends

light cairn
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rood

rigid haven
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Speaking of, adventure time ends soon

wispy shoal
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^.^

cinder vessel
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Like Ghost in the Shell, do not try to follow that unless you can marathon it

light cairn
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GITS ❤

gaunt hare
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Anime is gay.

cinder vessel
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I'm into it

rigid haven
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Then I must like watching gay things

light cairn
teal trench
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I like to binge-watch tv shows, so I'm actually with Woop on that specific point - I don't watch something, unless it's completed.

light cairn
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naruto finished 😉

rigid haven
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No

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Naruno

cinder vessel
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Did Bleach ever finish 🤔

rigid haven
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Those ninjas can stay invisible

light cairn
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yes

cinder vessel
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also why was it called bleach

wispy shoal
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Hi everyone

rigid haven
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Hi

gaunt hare
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I just realized Im surrounded by anime fans....

rigid haven
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Yes, you zebra-butted fool

teal trench
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Hello, person with massacre in their username.

gaunt hare
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All those anime girl face reactions

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It makes sense now...

rigid haven
cinder vessel
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lol

light cairn
wispy shoal
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Does anyone play Slime Rancher?

teal trench
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o_o

gaunt hare
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My God...

rigid haven
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I played it for a bit, yeah

light cairn
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No but i've looked at it for ages

rigid haven
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Though my computer doesn't run it too well

cinder vessel
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Slime Rancher is such a soft aesthetic, I dig it

rigid haven
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I heard there was an update recently

wispy shoal
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Do you know if there’s a discord for it? Yes, there was an update. New slimes

rigid haven
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Honey Slime 💛

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Hmm, I'm not sure

primal inlet
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on the topic of things that are depressing, check out this actually good multiplayer-centric game that was in Humble Monthly

light cairn
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such is games

rigid haven
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I would imagine so, due to pretty much everything having a discord server

gaunt hare
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Laserbreakers

rigid haven
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Even I have a discord server

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And a subreddit

wispy shoal
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I know Qoop, but i can’t find one

rigid haven
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Letsee...

teal trench
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If you want to talk about depressing, look at RuneScape's playerbase. Went from having literally millions of unique players login every single day, to having ~80k or so every day.

primal inlet
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check their subreddit?

gaunt hare
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Check your favorite slime rancher YouTubers. Sometimes they say "join me for slimey adventures on this discord!"

rigid haven
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I don't think I want to join any slimy adventures

silver garnet
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Makes sense

gaunt hare
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Then you should definitely not go to that discord.

primal inlet
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yeah, /r/slimerancher has a discord

gaunt hare
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I hear it is very slimey and adventerous

primal inlet
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I'm not going to link it here but it's there

teal trench
gaunt hare
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Why not link it here pupper?

rigid haven
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Slimy and Delicious

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It's not allowed

primal inlet
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technically cross-server advertising

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also I'm lazy

gaunt hare
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Oh dear

light cairn
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🦌

rigid haven
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And yeah, the runescape player drop is kinda sad, even though I don't really play it

wispy shoal
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Okay i will check it out from youtubers and subreddit

cinder vessel
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(mostly lazy)

rigid haven
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Multiplayer games going downhill really sucks

primal inlet
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also I FOUND A MATCH

gaunt hare
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That is not true

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All gaming is better than ever

light cairn
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hey, if EVE can survive with like 40k concurrent players then runescape is fine

cinder vessel
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but specific multi games you enjoy going downhill sucks

gaunt hare
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There's more of everything and new things and shinier and better and more expensive

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Oh, yes

cinder vessel
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that last one isn't so great, lol

gaunt hare
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Sorry.

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Guys don't tell anyone but I think Kev (no u) might be a furry

teal trench
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@light cairn, yup. EVE is a perfect example - it's actually used as an example by many RuneScape players, to say "RuneScape in space".

light cairn
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i think EVE is a bit more complicated

gaunt hare
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Just a wee bit

teal trench
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I'd disagree.

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<.<

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I've played both pretty extensively.

light cairn
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did you play on three accounts simultaneously?

gaunt hare
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Oh shit

teal trench
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Yup. One of my old friends did that.

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I do that on Rs

gaunt hare
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fight fight fight

light cairn
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dang

teal trench
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I have .. um, just a sec. I'll dig up a screenie for you lol.

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^ Five accounts there.

cinder vessel
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o_o

light cairn
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moar

rigid haven
light cairn
teal trench
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Six accounts shown there. ^

light cairn
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six accounts and anime on the side, perfect 👌

teal trench
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Lol, yeah. I was rewatching the dragonball tv shows at the time.

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Anyways, um. Yeah, the point was that EVE is basically Rs is space, but with less complexity. EVE is a lot simpler, despite having a frak-tonne more gameworld to explore. That's really the only upper hand it has, over Rs.

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Oh, and graphics. EVE has far superior graphics lol.

cinder vessel
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🤔

rigid haven
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I really should get to installing runescape

cinder vessel
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I feel like one would say the opposite in a comparison of EVE & RS

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EVE being higher complexity vs RS being simpler

teal trench
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I wish I could say that was the case, but it isn't.

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EVE is pretty shallow compared to Rs.

bleak otter
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Move or Die is a good multi-player game, although it's better as a couch MP game.

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Same with Duck Game.

teal trench
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Don't get me wrong, I love EVE Online lol. It's on my list of favourites.

rigid haven
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It's a shame that my internet is too bad to play Duck game 😓

bleak otter
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Quack quack quack

primal inlet
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...I mean, we could try

light cairn
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go to bed Woop aeyes

teal trench
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There's another game, called Wurm, which makes both Rs and EVE look like a children's game regarding complexity. Wurm is complicated out the wazoo, with soooo many mechanics and stuff to learn.

primal inlet
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wurm is terrifying and...really really clunky

teal trench
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It's stupidly clunky, too.

rigid haven
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Silly old Skip, didn't you know? There's no such thing as a Gruffalo

teal trench
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Yeah

primal inlet
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Jinx, hah

bleak otter
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The most complicated game I play is Civ

light cairn
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i'll show you a gruffalo god dammit

primal inlet
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My limited impression of it is that it's Minecraft but EVE

teal trench
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^

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Fun fact: The creator of Wurm is actually Notch.

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<.<

rigid haven
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Please stop skip from showing me his gruffalo

teal trench
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Notch made Minecraft, afterwords.

primal inlet
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I thought it was him and another guy but same difference

rigid haven
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Oh damn

bleak otter
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Billy Goats Gruffalo

teal trench
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Yeah, it was Notch and someone else; they made a studio together.

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Can't recall the name.

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Notch left, and decided to go develop on his own.

bleak otter
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Worked out okay for him

primal inlet
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and apparently there was a major Wurm update just last Friday

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huh

teal trench
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Yup

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Wurm might be old and clunky, but it still gets updated.

cinder vessel
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I feel like high complexity games in terms of mechanics are quantity over quality much of the time. They're clunky and cumbersome because rather than figure out how to consolidate mechanics and/or make them work well together, they just keep them as-is or clumsily try to make them coordinate, or in the worst possible scenario: add more mechanics

teal trench
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Wurm recently pulled a Jagex, and dumped Java in favour of C++.

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Their new game client is C++ and uses a lot of new visual stuff.

cinder vessel
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I think Dwarf Fortress is probably a great example of a bunch of granular interactions but with probably the worst user experience design imaginable, lol

teal trench
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Well... I'd rather have 10 clunky mechanics, over a single well-made mechanic. Despite the obvious "quality over quantity" thing, I feel like lots of complexity makes a game feel more... well, more "worth it" to stick to it, and play.

cinder vessel
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If it's tedious as hell to do anything, I just won't be assed to do it, lol

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That's what real life is about, don't need it in my games

teal trench
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Opposite here - that's exactly why I'd do it. Since no one else will, it means I'd be one of the few grinding it out.

light cairn
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i've never heard anyone say that Flan GWcfcThonk

gaunt hare
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When I was playing mad Max last night I was like "huh this ain't so bad" and then I zoomed out the map for the first time and I was like nope.

cinder vessel
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It also depends on how it's clunky though, tbh

gaunt hare
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Uninstall.

teal trench
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Wurm clunky is a nope for me. The whole... thing. Um, the character controls and how you actually get around to doing stuff.

bleak otter
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Just give me one good mechanic and I'll play for hours: see DDR, Lumines, Tetris, Peggle, etc.

teal trench
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Combat in Wurm, especially.

cinder vessel
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Same Devin

teal trench
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Rs and EVE clunky is a yes, for me.

light cairn
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Rhythm Games ❤

cinder vessel
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One really well made mechanic can keep me jammin' with a game for ages

light cairn
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tetris baybeeeeeeeeee

teal trench
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I wish I could share that feeling. =/

gaunt hare
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I guess I'm with Flan on this one

teal trench
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I get extremely bored, extremely quickly if something is too... barren, and simple.

cinder vessel
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It's like Mega Man, same basic stuff each game, but I tend to enjoy them

light cairn
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MEGA MANNNNNN

bleak otter
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Rocket League is pretty simple but I've got like 400 hours with it.

light cairn
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rocket league 👌

cinder vessel
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It's very game by game for me. If it takes forever to teach you how to play, or just tosses you in the deep end, much of the time I just don't want to give a game that kind of attention

gaunt hare
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I loved rocket league but I got burnt out.

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After between 50 and 100 hours

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I really don't care for indie games so that used to be my favorite indie game

teal trench
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Football, but with cars instead of humans. I noped out after reading that, and haven't had any desire to touch it since.

gaunt hare
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you'll never guess what replaced it as my favorite indie game

primal inlet
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undertale

bleak otter
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I don't really care for AAA games. Basically just play Indies.

gaunt hare
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NMS

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maybe you've heard it.

bleak otter
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No More Shadows? 🤔

teal trench
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Idc what/how a game is, or how it's made, or who it's made by. That indie vs AAA rubbish ticks me off.

cinder vessel
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Get me into what you want me to do, or do something to get me hooked enough to want to give your game that attention. Don't just toss your work out there and expect me to immediately get it. That's just dumb. There's a fuckton of stuff to check out.

gaunt hare
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I mean, indie vs AAA seems pretty fair when every single one of my favorite games is AAA

light cairn
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downwell 👌 👌 👌

teal trench
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Let the game speak for itself, and quit comparing AAA vs Indie.

bleak otter
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Yeah. If a game doesn't grab me in the first hour, I'll probably just move on.

gaunt hare
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and Devin only plays indie

teal trench
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If the game is bad, it's bad. It doesn't matter who developed it.

rigid haven
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Oh shit, I agree with Quav

gaunt hare
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I mean, I think the conversation is more about whether or not you like AAA or indie

bleak otter
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I like Nintendo games. Are those AAA? And Quantic Dream games. Tomb Raider was pretty good.

cinder vessel
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I mean it is really dumb to compare megacorps with money to burn to indies barely keeping afloat, lol

gaunt hare
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I don't think anyone is saying either shouldn't exist

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Nintendo are usually AAA

cinder vessel
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"Why doesn't this scrappy indie have AAA quality & content?" um you just answered yourself

teal trench
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I like games that I like, lol. idc, nor do I pay attention to if it's Indie or AAA. I just play it, and if I like it, yay.

bleak otter
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I don't normally think about it in those terms but the vast majority of what I play is more indie stuff.

cinder vessel
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I mostly play indie stuff because typically my PC can handle it better, lol

teal trench
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Um, I do know that ... ten years or so after I started playing RuneScape, that it was an Indie MMO.

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I learned*

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I didn't know that before.

bleak otter
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My first MMO was Ragnarok Online.

teal trench
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Jagex was privately owned and developed by Andrew Grower, a british guy who lived in Cambridge, England. He and his two brothers - Ian, and Paul - were the sole developers of it.

cinder vessel
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i remember wanting to try Ragnarok

teal trench
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I say 'was', because it's past tense.

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They sold it in 2009/2010.

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It's currently owned by a Chinese investment firm.

rigid haven
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I always feel an odd sense of patriotism when I find out that a game is made in the UK 🇬🇧

cinder vessel
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so like everything these days?

teal trench
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Jagex Limited is a British video game developer and publisher based at the St John's Innovation Centre in Cambridge, England. It is best known for RuneScape, the world's largest free-to-play massively multiplayer online role-playing game. The com...

cinder vessel
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re: owned by Chinese investment firms

bleak otter
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Team 17 is from the UK and they've made like 40 Worms games.

teal trench
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"Jagex was acquired by Chinese company Hongtou, which in turn was acquired by another Chinese company, Zhongji Holding, in September 2016."

rigid haven
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There, Got Runescape installed with a teeny 1.4 mb

bleak otter
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Does anyone remember Mischief Makers on the N64?

rigid haven
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My graphic drivers are 841 days old

bleak otter
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That's pretty out of date

teal trench
rigid haven
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Yup, don't worry, I remember 👌

teal trench
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@rigid haven Um, whilst sitting in the lobby, hold alt and press the ` key. The one to the left of your 1 key. That opens the developer console. Once there, type in "displayfps" and hit enter.

cinder vessel
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anyone know if the latest GeForce drivers are somewhat okay? Last time I tried to update them, they botched NMS & Maia

teal trench
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@rigid haven That will show you your cache size, and other info.

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You close it the same way.

rigid haven
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Oh, sweet, nice to know

teal trench
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Alt `

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@cinder vessel, yup. I'm using the most updated one.

cinder vessel
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I sorta wish FPS didn't become such a focal point for the gaming community

teal trench
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It runs NMS without any issues.

cinder vessel
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Hrrm. I dunno how well it might work with my old ass GPU tho

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Many of their latest drivers are more tailored for 900 series to 1050+ GPUs it seems like, despite what they say

teal trench
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Oh, yup. Make sure you specify your gpu model, on the site.

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I recently downloaded one for my 560 Ti.

cinder vessel
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That's the awkward part tho, I did and it was still borked

teal trench
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Might have just been a bad driver.

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They do that sometimes.

bleak otter
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I dislike FPS and mobas. So like most of the popular games.

cinder vessel
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lol, Devin, I was thinking of Frames-Per-Second there

teal trench
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^

bleak otter
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Oh my b

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I do like those fps

cinder vessel
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But same time, over-focus on FPS has been grating to me at times

cinder vessel
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Hrrm, maybe I'll give the latest batch another gamble...They should improve performance, I'd hope...But who even knows with these fellows

teal trench
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Yeah, it should be okay.

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If not, you can always revert.

bleak otter
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Switch 540 to revert

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Into a manual and then a kickflip

cinder vessel
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lol

bleak otter
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I miss those Tony Hawk games

cinder vessel
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Sometimes I wonder if the driver updates are really even applicable to any other game than whatever they mention

bleak otter
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They don't seem to do much most of the time.

teal trench
bleak otter
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Cache money

rigid haven
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Alright, That isn't much

cinder vessel
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lol can you run commands to download the world ahead of time? I remember that used to be a thing people did with Guild Wars to improve load times

teal trench
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@rigid haven Oh, um... also, best review the Rs rules. Jagex is reaally, really weird, and nitpicky about stuff, in comparison to other games. They are trigger-happy with bans.

rigid haven
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Oh dear

teal trench
rigid haven
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I'd better break out my dictionary of "almost swears"

teal trench
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No, they're fine with profanity.

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It's not that.

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Some specific things, are third party software and automation tools - those are a massive nope.

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Stuff like binding a key to a macro on a mouse/keyboard.

cinder vessel
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"play the damn game guys"

teal trench
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You can't do that.

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You have to actually press the button itself, and click with the mouse.

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Not binds.

bleak otter
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Extra mechanics: installation, disk space allocation, setting up a server, etc.

rigid haven
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Oh

cinder vessel
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lol Nvidia doesn't appear to recognize my old drivers it's just like Old Version: None

teal trench
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Jagex has relaxed their iron fist, regarding ingame chat and social stuff in recent years. They used to mute you on the spot, for even saying the word "youtube" or "myspace".

cinder vessel
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O_o

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wat

teal trench
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The rule "Advertising other websites".

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<.<

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The myspace thing fell under that, and asking for personal info.

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"Asking for or providing contact information"

cinder vessel
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Yeah, I could follow that one

teal trench
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LIke I said, they're weird and nitpicky in comparison to other games.

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I was never muted or banned, because I was a goody-two-shoes, who followed the rules exactly.

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RuneScape is to blame, for my aversion of automation software, and "fancy" keyboards/mice.

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A simple 3-button mouse, and a simple generic keyboard with letters and numbers.

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Nothing more.

cinder vessel
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If I start thinking, "Maybe I should automate this via macros/other software," I know I should probably just stop playing

teal trench
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Yup, lol. They make you agree to some rather unorthodox ToS when you make your account, too. Most people don't read it, but they should.

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For example, the Rs client is a "low level" RAT, which actively monitors what you have open, your mouse movements, your keyboard input, etc. It can't control anything; it just sits there and watches. They tie this into a bit of software AI, called "botwatch", which is fed this, and automatically bans anyone who uses automation, or anything of the sort.

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It monitors an account's actions and determines whether or not it is human behaviour. Certain checks are also in place to determine whether or not the game is being played using an official Jagex client.

The Botwatch system has banned players directly, making it the first automated banning system in RuneScape. This being said, Jagex is quite confident in this system and guarantees that all legitimate players will be safe. However, a major glitch did arise from an early flaw in the system, resulting in thousands of innocent players being wrongfully banned.
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^ Extra stuff to note, @rigid haven.

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Just in case you still haven't read the rules.

rigid haven
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Ouch

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Kinda reminds me of the game Orwell GWchinaSakuraThinking

light cairn
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were you planning on botting? 👀

rigid haven
#

My computer can't even run a game normally, nevermind running one AND a bot

teal trench
#

I'm just trying to make sure you don't accidentally do something that would make BotWatch glare at you.

#

For example, one of my old friends - a 65 year old Russian - was very adamant about not wanting to play RuneScape. I bugged him about it for over two years, before he finally gave in, and tried it. He was banned on day one, because he had TeamViewer open alongside the game.

rigid haven
#

Oh shit

teal trench
#

That kinda ruined any chances of him playing it, ever again lol.

cinder vessel
#

lol

teal trench
#

Remote desktop software can, and will be wrongly identified as botting software, because it can control the mouse and keyboard.

#

Jagex has no intentions in fixing this.

rigid haven
#

Ahh, right

teal trench
#

Rs has enough rules, customs, and regulations to make it feel like you're requesting citizenship in a new country.

#

<.<

cinder vessel
#

Heey, the new drivers didn't kill NMS again!

#

Yay!

teal trench
#

Grats lol.

cinder vessel
#

Can't stand when the recommended/certified drivers still can cause issues

#

Like yo, that's why I went with those drivers, to avoid beta flakiness

teal trench
#

Another bit of clever wordplay, in the ToS:

All intellectual property or other rights in any game character, account, content, virtual currency and virtual items in the Jagex Products are and will remain the property of Jagex and/or its licensors. You are only granted limited permission (which can be revoked at anytime) to use such content or Jagex Product, subject to and in accordance with these terms and conditions.

Jagex does not recognise any purported: (a) transfers of virtual items or virtual currency which take place outside the rules of a Jagex Product; (b) transfers of accounts; or (c) sale, gift or trade in the real world of anything that appears or originates in a Jagex Product.

Jagex reserves the right to stop offering a Jagex Product or a particular part of a Jagex Product at any time either permanently or temporarily, at which point any license granted to you to use the Jagex Product or a part thereof will be automatically terminated or suspended. In such event, Jagex shall not be required to provide refunds, benefits or other compensation to users in connection with such discontinued elements of the Jagex Product unless required by law. 

It boils down to: You don't own jack squat, and it doesn't matter how many years you've invested into the game, or ow much money you've spent on it. Jagex owns everything, and you're just 'using' their property on their goodwill. They can, and will ban you and offer no support, no refunds, no chances at an appeal.

cinder vessel
#

I feel like you should take up a job as a RS attorney, lol

teal trench
#

.>

#

Sorry, I'm just in love with this game.

#

<.<

rigid haven
#

Damn

#

Haha. It shows

cinder vessel
#

"how committed are you to your game?" "i read the Terms of Service and End-User License Agreement" "fuck, you're married!"

tough heron
#

hmm

#

yeah but about that automation thing

#

what if you just build a lego robot to do it

#

i certainly never have because i was too stupid to understand there was software for it

light cairn
#

does that mean my logitech macros are illegal? 😱

tough heron
#

😮

teal trench
#

Yes to both of you.

#

Both of those are bannable.

tough heron
#

damn

#

how would they pick up the robot?

light cairn
#

guess i'm never allowed to press two buttons at the same time GWnanamiLaceShrug

tough heron
#

i'm like curious

teal trench
#

Surprisingly, people have actually posted about "physical" devices, such as attaching something to a rotating fan head, or whatever. Jagex has replied, and said it can get you banned.

tough heron
#

okay

#

i mean but c'mon

#

at that point they're putting more effort in then they are getting reward out haha

teal trench
tough heron
#

hmm

teal trench
#

If you're mechanically pressing the same key over and over at the same intervals, that would be flagged as non-human behaviour in botwatch.

#

@light cairn >guess i'm never allowed to press two buttons at the same time

That's exactly it. There's an unspoken "rule", that says: "One input, one output." This means that every button press must equate to a single action. If you bind two actions to a single button, that gets picked up as automation and your account gets flagged.

light cairn
#

so there's nothing in the game that requires more than one button press to trigger?

#

well, it is just clicking i guess

teal trench
#

Yeah, it's just an old point and click game.

#

Nothing requiring multiple complex button presses.

brisk merlin
#

Samr

knotty osprey
#

lmao

teal trench
#

I'd rather read a guide.

lavish obsidian
#

These are Youtube personalities.

cinder vessel
#

sorry not interested i'll go try dating again before i bother getting to know you Mx. YouTuber

teal trench
#

If people could be serious, concise, and get straight to the point, I'd probably be more inclined to watch their videos.

cinder vessel
#

but at that point, a written guide is better

teal trench
#

^

lavish obsidian
#

mhmm.

rain flicker
#

If they go straight to the point the video is not 10 minutes long and they cant put another ad on it

rigid haven
#

I would make a YouTube channel like that. Hell, I probably will

#

The "straight to the point" thing

cinder vessel
#

many people that do just record their screen and put on some music they like then type instructions in notepad as they lead you to whatever it is you're trying to do...At least if it's PC related stuff, lol

iron inlet
#

Youtubers are widely fucking idiots

#

any youtuber that starts with "HEY WHATSUP GUYS WELCOME BACK ITS YA BOI [NAME] AND WELCOME TO ANOTHER VIDEO MAKE SURE YOU LEAVE A LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE AND COMMENT YOUR THOUGHTS DOWN BELOW I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, SUPPORT MY PATREON HERE AND DONATE HERE ETC ETC NOW LETS GET TO VIDEO AFTER THIS 1 MINUTE LONG SPEIL OF SHIT"

#

is just not fucking worth any time

#

Like yo put that shit at the end of the fucking video not the god damn beginning

winter yew
#

I hate those and the ones that have a whacked out too-loud dubstep into

#

There’s one YouTuber I can put up with

#

Robbaz

#

He just says

#

‘Robbaz here!’

#

Simple and short

lavish obsidian
#

I do have a biased view towards minimalism, but I hope other channels follow these kind of opening cards

winter yew
lavish obsidian
#

Gaming Youtubers are usually more bearable if they have good morale

winter yew
#

Fuckin lol at his role plays in games that have almost nothing to do with the games actual plot

brisk merlin
#

I like robbaz

winter yew
#

He’s funny as hell

#

My favorite video of his is when he made a War Corgi in Beseiged

#

And it’s dick was the cannon xD

royal tendon
#

I only really pay attention to gaming youtubers, and they're generally alright

teal trench
#

^

brisk merlin
#

Oh yea I remember that

royal tendon
#

The whole "leave a like and subscribe and hit the bell notification" thing does get a bit old, but if they've got good content, I don't mind it

#

Besides, youtube itself is having issues

#

Notifications don't work unless you actually hit the bell, and the whole subscription feed thing may still be an issue

winter yew
#

Short and sweet and non-intrusive

lavish obsidian
#

The subscription feed seriously triggers me

#

Why?

#

Just why?

royal tendon
#

Mark's intro is pretty basic but it stands out

teal trench
royal tendon
#

It's simply "hello everybody, my name is markiplier"

brisk merlin
#

Whoisthat

lavish obsidian
#

slicedlime.

winter yew
#

I died laughing at Marks videos where he was trying to stay calm

#

While playing I Am Bread

lavish obsidian
#

Quav sung his praises before

brisk merlin
#

Mark?

winter yew
#

Markiplier

royal tendon
#

Poor mark xD

winter yew
#

Was funny as hell

brisk merlin
#

Oh, dont like markiplier

royal tendon
#

I loved watching him play hearts and heroes

#

That game itself is pretty darn sweet

#

If it was episodic, that would've been awesome

lavish obsidian
#

His playing Subnautica was one of the most unbearably painful videos I've ever watched

winter yew
#

Oh geez

royal tendon
#

I never watched him play subnautica

winter yew
#

He’s in Subnautica

#

As a doll

brisk merlin
#

I watched parts of jacksepticeye playing subnautica

lavish obsidian
#

very old

teal trench
#

That title alone, is enough to make me avoid it.

lavish obsidian
#

Suit yourself.

winter yew
#

dunkey is pretty funny too

lavish obsidian
#

Personally, I watch them for mindless entertainment

#

Dunkey's a masterpiece

winter yew
#

His Monster Hunter World video had me in tears

lavish obsidian
#

a living masterpiece at that

winter yew
#

‘This game fucking sucks’

#

Ten seconds later

brisk merlin
#

I dont really like dunkey

winter yew
#

‘This is the best game ever’

#

XD

lavish obsidian
#

Have you seen Fry Car 5 acey?

winter yew
#

Lol?

#

No

lavish obsidian
#

new video

winter yew
#

Oh shit

#

Lmao

#

ThE beaver hahah

rigid haven
#

As a kid doing YouTube, my intro devolved from "Hello guys and gals, welcome to (game)" to just "hello"

winter yew
#

Dude

#

That helicopter reminds me of when I first played Ghost Recon Wildlands

royal tendon
#

Oh god the beaver xD

teal trench
winter yew
#

You’d be flying along and suddenly the games physics would freeze

lavish obsidian
#

"aaam not sure who's doing that"

winter yew
#

And the heli would just be stuck in the air

rigid haven
#

🙇 🙇 🙇

winter yew
#

Like the world was still moving around you but the heli was frozen

teal trench
#

I can't find a more "serious", unamused face than the Queen of England.

#

It fits this context perfectly.

rigid haven
#

That's just the queen's normal face

royal tendon
#

Oh god, the paddle hit her head xD

lavish obsidian
#

Sorry for not amusing you, Quav haha

rigid haven
#

How amused could you be, ruling a place like England?

lavish obsidian
#

you have a point

teal trench
#

Speaking of which, isn't there some kinda joke about the Queen of England not being amused? Like, unrelated to this conversation.

brisk merlin
#

Idk but she has a tv program

teal trench
winter yew
#

Gonna share this one because it amuses me

lavish obsidian
#

Mhmm

#

Not sure if Victoria actually said that quote

teal trench
#

^

#

It's disputed.

cinder vessel
#

personally i'd like a game where you just go beat up stereotypically stodgy british people because let's be real here, they suck

teal trench
#

.>

brisk merlin
#

Lmao

teal trench
#

But, I like stereotypically stodgy british people.

lavish obsidian
#

several people are typing

rigid haven
#

Good god, Far cry 5 looks fun as fuck

cinder vessel
#

I WILL DESTROY THEM WITH THEIR OWN TEACUPS

winter yew
#

Lol

brisk merlin
#

GOOD DAY OL CHAP

winter yew
#

Kev

cinder vessel
#

TEACUP SMASH

teal trench
#

Wot'cha guvna?

winter yew
#

Just play Bioshock and pretend that’s how Brits are normally

lavish obsidian
#

it's raining quotes

#

i love it

cinder vessel
#

my fav part of bioshock was killing all those splicers

brisk merlin
#

ALRITE GOVNA

cinder vessel
#

and their stupid wannabe britishness

brisk merlin
#

ABSOLUTELY SMASHING

winter yew
#

ELLO GUV’NA

cinder vessel
#

LET ME PUNCH THEM ALL

winter yew
#

#regularshowquote

brisk merlin
#

OH I DO SAY OL CHAP

teal trench
cinder vessel
#

oh my gosh We Happy Few will be so good

winter yew
#

Oh

brisk merlin
#

Iwaswaitingforthat

winter yew
#

I gotta try that

cinder vessel
#

I'll get to smash so many stupid hypocritical Brits

brisk merlin
#

SPLENDED OL CHAP

#

TOP NOTCH

cinder vessel
#

look you fuckers don't get to forget your genocidal shit with drugs!

lavish obsidian
#

oops

cinder vessel
#

i mean that's sorta the real context of the game We Happy Few, lol

#

they do some bad shit, presumably genocide

brisk merlin
#

Oops?

lavish obsidian
#

ouch

teal trench
brisk merlin
#

POTAYTO

cinder vessel
#

Irish & Scottish people don't count in my lineup of fuckin' miserable stereotypical Brits

lavish obsidian
brisk merlin
#

Potato

rigid haven
cinder vessel
#

oooh fuck, it'd be so good to play as an Irish or Scottish person fuckin' up Brits, you just know there's a market for that

teal trench
#

I've always attributed "British" to solely being England. Only learned a few years ago, that Britain was scotland, wales, england, and northern ireland.

rigid haven
#

Why do you want to hurt the British 😰

cinder vessel
#

only the stereotypical fuckery ones

#

you're good Woop

rigid haven
#

The tally ho ones?

teal trench
#

I like stereotypical brits, though.

cinder vessel
#

Yeah those fuckers

rigid haven
#

but those are good

teal trench
#

^

lavish obsidian
#

it's raining quotes~

cinder vessel
#

you should have killed your royalty like the fucking French

brisk merlin
#

This chat is as spammy as that fucking bigboi

lavish obsidian
cinder vessel
#

the Vy'keen are right

#

except insofar as they don't also show distrust to the Korvax

#

all games should encourage the Violent Revolution

teal trench
cinder vessel
#

all i'm sayin' is we need more games with royalty and stodgy Brits/aristocrats gettin' punched

lavish obsidian
cinder vessel
#

wat

#

the Violent Revolution is about overthrowing Oppressors and the Bourgeoisie

teal trench
#

The first step, should be removing all YouTubers from existence other than slicedlime.

cinder vessel
#

Korvax submit to oppressors and enable them, Gek are former Imperalists

lavish obsidian
#

I forgot that you capitalized "Violent" as in the actual event

#

and due to my subjectively controversial fake history, I've killed the chat once again

#

good job whale!

rigid haven
#

Bourg

brisk merlin
#

YAY GO WHALE

teal trench
#

No, I was just looking for a signature I made a few years ago.

#

It was with this text: "Na Trioblóidí nár dar críoch."

rigid haven
#

What does that mean?

teal trench
#

Irish, for "The troubles have not ended.".

rigid haven
#

Oh, right

lavish obsidian
#

Mhmm.

teal trench
#

The Troubles never ended, lol.

#

The Troubles (Irish: Na Trioblóidí) was an ethno-nationalist conflict in Northern Ireland during the late 20th century. Also known internationally as the Northern Ireland conflict, it is sometimes described as a "guerrilla war" or a "low-level ...

lavish obsidian
#

When was that quote first seen?

brisk merlin
#

Sean

teal trench
#

I've no idea.

#

It's old, though.

cinder vessel
#

The Troubles will end when they kill the British Monarchy

teal trench
#

Lol

#

Or, each other..

cinder vessel
#

but first: get rid of the royalty

lavish obsidian
#

theresa may is a bit incompetent

rigid haven
#

😱

lavish obsidian
#

but I'm not overly politicc though

rigid haven
#

Do not get rid of royalty

#

It is good and cool

royal tendon
rigid haven
#

And my only way to get knighted

lavish obsidian
#

haha

#

Sir Sama

rigid haven
#

Honestly, I have what I would think is a typical doctor's last name

lavish obsidian
#

Geoffrey?

#

Bradley?

rigid haven
#

Huh, Never heard of that

brisk merlin
#

Politics s u c k

cinder vessel
#

lol the royalty eclipses the much more interesting tourist sites of the UK

rigid haven
#

No, Littler

teal trench
#

About the North vs South Ireland issue.

brisk merlin
#

Absolute corker amirite

lavish obsidian
#

"Corker Gaming"

brisk merlin
#

Ye

rigid haven
#

Huh

cinder vessel
#

in Age of Empires I spent much of my time wrecking the British. good times

rigid haven
#

So, uh, is the Minecraft server actually down for good? Does anyone even know the answer to that?

lavish obsidian
#

We should ask Kaz.

#

This is quite problematic

teal trench
#

Kaz is no longer part of this discord server, and I kinda don't want to message him. I left his DIY Tech server on a bad note.

brisk merlin
#

Corker - an excellent or astonishing person or thing.

cinder vessel
#
lavish obsidian
#

I need a few more shots to make my Communism minecraft server trailer

rigid haven
#

Ouch. It's alright. I have my own ways of finding out 😉

lavish obsidian
#

What?!

rigid haven
#

Aka, trying to connect to it

lavish obsidian
#

Atlas Division is..

#

shutting down.

teal trench
rigid haven
#

Yeah, Kaz is probably trying to just cut his ties with this server as a whole 🤷

lavish obsidian
#

This is not helping me overcome my slump.

brisk merlin
#

Mhm

rigid haven
#

Ah, don't worry whale

#

Things will look up eventually

cinder vessel
#

communities are weird & tough

teal trench
#

I'm more than happy to host it again, if that would help. Just don't expect it to be stable. Also, bear in mind that the copy of the world I have is from the 10th of March.

lavish obsidian
#

I think we should let it go now.

teal trench
#

Okay.

rigid haven
#

Yeah, I suppose the Minecraft server is gone 😅

lavish obsidian
#

We don't want to bother you really

teal trench
#

Let me just make this clear: It doesn't bother me - I'm happy to do it. If anything, I'm worried about bothering others with my crappy internet.

lavish obsidian
#

Atleast I have a few replay mod recordings left.

rigid haven
#

Haha, well. If people will actually play it, go ahead! There's no need to use your computer's resources on something that might go unused

lavish obsidian
#

^

teal trench
lavish obsidian
#

Deluxer's stream is probably the best archival data we have left

teal trench
#

Well, I do have 48GB of ram now, so that's a huge extra buffer on its own.

rigid haven
#

Hot damn

#

You're intimidating my tiny 2 gb

teal trench
lavish obsidian
#

..this is fine

rigid haven
#

Woah, it's a monster

lavish obsidian
#

8GB peasant here

rigid haven
#

That's 4x mine... Man, I really do need a new laptop

lavish obsidian
#

oh dear

#

let me guess

#

840m?

rigid haven
#

I have no idea what that is

lavish obsidian
#

radeon?

teal trench
lavish obsidian
#

Celeron!

rigid haven
#

Yes, those are my specs. Quality as you can see

lavish obsidian
#

Now that's a name I haven't heard for a while

teal trench
#

Did you ever find the "something-something"? lol.

rigid haven
#

Oh yeah

#

It might be that one

lavish obsidian
#

How do you play games on that thing?

teal trench
#
type : Intel® HD Graphics 
memory amount : up to 781 MB shared memory with 2 GB system memory installed, and up to 1,696 MB with 4 GB system memory, (with pre-installed 64-bit operating system) 
memory type : shared 
#

Holy crap

#

I mean, I expected that... but, wow.

cinder vessel
#

sheer magic

teal trench
#

^

brisk merlin
rigid haven
#

I call it luck of the Woop

lavish obsidian
#

Witchcraft.

#

Pure witchcraft

cinder vessel
#

also I'm with ya Whale on the RAM

#

sittin' at 8 here too

teal trench
#

@brisk merlin Lol, speccy. I'd still use that if it was capable of identifying ddr4 ram.

lavish obsidian
#

Haha yeah

#

Sweet spot

cinder vessel
#

I think my two major bottlenecks are processor & GPU, but maybe mainly the GPU

teal trench
rigid haven
brisk merlin
#

48GB WTF

rigid haven
#

Oh wow, emote

lavish obsidian
#

nitro

rigid haven
#

Lotsa memory

teal trench
#

Also, speccy hates my 1080 Ti It claims 3GB of vram in it.

cinder vessel
#

wait what are you & Kev using to net that info?

teal trench
#

Speccy.

cinder vessel
#

oh, speccy?

brisk merlin
#

Why are you using alienware?

#

B l e h

teal trench
#

There's the proper one.

brisk merlin
#

Ah

teal trench
#

I saved $400 by buying alienware. Building a machine with the same specs would have been $2,500.

rigid haven
#

Monthly payments, huh?

teal trench
#

It's usually the other way around; building your own is cheaper. Not in this case, though.

rigid haven
#

Really? Wow

teal trench
#

And yeah.

#

Dell lets you pay it off via monthly payments, which is awesome.

brisk merlin
#

Nice

rigid haven
#

I'll have to take a look

teal trench
#

There's a Dell UK site, so yeah.

rigid haven
#

Literally anything is better than this laptop 😅

cinder vessel
#

wait why the hell did i pick up a 2 gb GPU years back, fuck old me

teal trench
lavish obsidian
rigid haven
teal trench
#

That unidentified i5. Yet another reason to avoid speccy in this day and age.

#

Use hwinfo.

#

Speccy has gotten crappy these past few years.

lavish obsidian
#

i5 7300HQ

teal trench
#

Ohh.

#

The i5-7300, 1050 Ti, and 8GB of ram is still a solid mid-tier gaming laptop.

lavish obsidian
#

The outside is quite the aesthetic look

#

Sleek, black and a carbon-fiber finish

#

The inside is a different story though

#

Red EVERYWHERE

teal trench
#

I can't stand it.

brisk merlin
#

Lmao

lavish obsidian
#

haha

teal trench
#

The full setup info, and whatnot if you're curious.

lavish obsidian
#

Mhmm.

#

FE cards

teal trench
#

Yup, never buy FE.

#

Never.

brisk merlin
#

O

cinder vessel
#

🤔 what temp should a GPU idle at?

teal trench
#

~30c - 35c.

lavish obsidian
#

yee

#

secret bot

rigid haven
#

~ does it

gaunt charmBOT
#

~ does it

rigid haven
#

See

lavish obsidian
#

~lenny

gaunt charmBOT
#

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

teal trench
#

So, I'm not allowed to start messages with ~, or it'll error the bot?

#

.>

#

Weird lol.

rigid haven
#

You can end sentences with it though~

lavish obsidian
#

exactly~

rigid haven
#

Its like \

brisk merlin
#

~isloveislife aaa

teal trench
#

Yeah, I use a tilde for saying "around this", sorta like the word "circa".

brisk merlin
#

~~islife aaa

rigid haven
#

\[T]/

#

Yeah, I do too, occasionally

lavish obsidian
#

[T]/

#

mine lost a limb during the process

brisk merlin
#

[÷]

rigid haven
#

Gotta do two \

#

\

lavish obsidian
#

\[T]/

#

ah there we go

teal trench
#

\[T]/

rigid haven
#

Oh sweet

teal trench
#

Backtick, not apostrophe.

lavish obsidian
#

thank you

brisk merlin
#

Np

lavish obsidian
#

And finally!

#

I reach level 44

#

time to get Undaunted

brisk merlin
#

iscream

teal trench
#

~Pickles are Bumpy

brisk merlin
#

Owo

teal trench
#

~PicklesAreBumpy

brisk merlin
#

~ pickles

gaunt charmBOT
#

~ pickles

brisk merlin
#

Space

lavish obsidian
#

Beware the Lettuce~

teal trench
#

~ Pickles are Bumpy

gaunt charmBOT
#

~ Pickles are Bumpy

teal trench
#

Yay

gaunt charmBOT
#

~ Thank you for your cooperation.

#

~ number 15, burger king foot lettuce

#

~ Sincerly, the best bot of all time

lavish obsidian
#

Hmm.

teal trench
#

~ Beware: Cabbage Crossing. The cabbages will eat your brains.

gaunt charmBOT
#

~ Beware: Cabbage Crossing. The cabbages will eat your brains.

lavish obsidian
#

I would argue that Gunter is better

teal trench
#

Gunter is scary.

lavish obsidian
#

Hmm.

brisk merlin
#

Like this server

lavish obsidian
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what do you think of utilibot?

teal trench
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Idk anything about it.

brisk merlin
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It's b a d

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Gunter us the one true bot

lavish obsidian
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The bot to reunite all good bots

brisk merlin
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That bot g a y

rigid haven
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Oh dear

brisk merlin
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Gunter is m i n e

teal trench
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I mean, I really doubt anyone here would be interested in it.

lavish obsidian
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Purple Ferret Pictures

teal trench
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@rigid haven, maybe you, but only to get a rough idea of what Rs has to hold.

rigid haven
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Oh wow, 27 videos, all either just under or over one hour

teal trench
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Yup.

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I start recording, and then play. Then forget about it, and upload it later.

rigid haven
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Hah, your enjoyment really does show

teal trench
rigid haven
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Oh. Well. I hope you decide to do more at some point in the near future! And I hope whatever happened is sorted out

teal trench
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Sorta, but not really.

rigid haven
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I see

teal trench
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That's the best explanation I have for it.

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.. and, it's the first and only time I ever made an effort to type it all out.

rigid haven
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Alright, let's see...

cinder vessel
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oof

rigid haven
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...damn 😓

teal trench
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That person who I'm chatting with in private messages in the Rs videos - Snoedragon - is that same William.

rigid haven
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Ah, right. That explains the indefinite hiatus then

teal trench
rigid haven
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Dragon Plate Skirt. Sounds mildly protective

rigid haven
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Wow, It's like the second manliest skirt, Right after a kilt

teal trench
brisk merlin
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Damn them legs

rigid haven
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Oh, sweet

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I have no idea how far I can get in Runescape without membership

teal trench
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You can play Rs for free, indefinitely.

rigid haven
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Damn, Look at it's Low-poly goodness

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Really? oh, neat

brisk merlin
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Gimme that dragon armour

teal trench
rigid haven
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Oh yeah, I remember you saying that

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Good stuff

teal trench
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Both Rs3 and Osrs do this.

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Oh, speaking of which, what's your username? I'll add you to my friends list, if that's okay.

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I'm just 'Quavelen'.

rigid haven
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Hmm, I think it's "W00Perstake"

teal trench
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So, you recently recovered the account?

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o.o

rigid haven
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Apparently

teal trench
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That jibberish name thing is what happens when an account is inactive.

rigid haven
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It really has been a while since I've played, other than today, of course

teal trench
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Old friends who quit, and never returned.

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I'm keeping them added, just in case they do return.

rigid haven
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Oh damn

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How long do you need to be inactive for that to happen?

teal trench
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For f2p, it's... 6 months?

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For members, it's a year.

rigid haven
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Oh, good, That's a nice amount of time

teal trench
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Oh, here it is:

Former members who haven’t logged into their account for 2 years
Players who have never been a member who also haven’t logged into their account for 6 months
rigid haven
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Aha, Yeah, that's a long time

teal trench
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I mean, having over 250 million registered accounts, means that unique names without numbers start becoming a bit difficult to create.

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So they had to do that.

rigid haven
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Ah, right

teal trench
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@rigid haven Oh, also... the armour and weapons in Rs3 kinda got ruined (in my opinion) with the mid-2012 armour/weapon model graphical update. Like, Dragon armour as an example. It looks like this in Rs3:

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Everything got graphically updated, in a horrible way.

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All armour and weapons.

rigid haven
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It looks kinda alright, but also kinda like a cheap plastic figurine

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Oh. I don't really like the look that helmet either

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I suppose, in the end, it all falls down to personal tastes

teal trench
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I don't have the Jack o' Lantern mask in Osrs.

rigid haven
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Hey, the armour in Osrs looks kinda cosy

teal trench
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Yup, it's true to the medieval style.

rigid haven
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Oh, dude, looking at the armour sets in Terraria was one of my favourite things since the later ones look kinda cool. I should probably do the same with Runescape

teal trench
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(Gif, because a still image doesn't do it justice.)

rigid haven
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Oh woah

teal trench
rigid haven
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Well there's a list of items that I'll need to find at some point, because that armour 👌

rigid haven
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Sweet, Now I have a little wishlist

teal trench
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That's only in Osrs, mind you.

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Rs3 doesn't have that armour.

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It has the boots, holy symbol, gauntlets, cloak, and sword. However, they look wildly different.

rigid haven
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I thought as much

teal trench
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The (t) and (g) variants of armour below black, only exist in Osrs. In Rs3, only black and above have (t) and (g) variants.

rigid haven
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What are the t and g variants? Just different designs?

teal trench
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Bronze, iron, steel, black, mithril, adamant, rune, and dragon are the "standard" armour metals in RuneScape. The (t) and (g) variants of them (or in Dragon's case, (or) and (sp)) are simply decorative.

rigid haven
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Ah, I see

teal trench
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The (t) stands for "trimmed", whereas the (g) stands for "gold trimmed".

rigid haven
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Ooo, Gold

teal trench
knotty osprey
lavish obsidian
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👏

rigid haven
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Damn, Some good looking armour

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Also, congrats

teal trench
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Each class (melee, magic, and ranged) has its own, complex armour table.

rigid haven
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I find that really odd since, in most games I've played, it's the opposite

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ranged > melee > magic

teal trench
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@rigid haven Well, it's based on this "logic":
• Melee users have metallic armour, which conducts magical energy and - in a sense - "fries" them in their own shell. However, arrows will just bounce off the metal.
• Rangers have animal hide armour, typically made of dragonhide at higher levels. Since dragons are resistant to magic, they have an inherent defence buff against magic, whereas melee users can just slice right through it.
• Magic users have robes which tend to offer little to no defence against anything, other than melee weapons in some of the higher-end sets. Arrows can pierce right through it, regardless.

rigid haven
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Ahh, I suppose that makes sense

teal trench
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... okay, now I'm irked. I just spent six bloody minutes typing that out, when I could have just screenshotted the explanation on the Wiki page. For some reason, I didn't think to check if they had one.

rigid haven
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Oh well, it's the thought that counts ¯_(ツ)_/¯

teal trench
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This doesn't necessarily mean that just because you're melee and you're fighting a ranger you'll automatically win. It's just the way armour, weapons, and spells were structured to keep any one style from being the most powerful. A high-level ranger can defeat a melee user by trapping them behind an obstacle such as a fence, for instance.
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Despite that effort, melee comes out on top as the strongest.

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.>

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In both f2p and p2p.

rigid haven
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Yeah, I'm sticking to melee

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Even if I want to try a different class, I always revert back to melee. Commonly, maintaining distance gets awkward as ranged and Mana just puts a limit on my destructive capabilities.

teal trench
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Best, being highest stats/bonuses.

rigid haven
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Boots for adding 2 step verification?

rigid haven
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Ahh, right

teal trench
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The dungeon was created to enhance the security of players by filling out security question in their account management, and answer questions that relate to account security. Before being allowed to claim any rewards, you must have a RuneScape Authenticator on your account via the account management page.
cinder vessel
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It just occurred to me, what competitors does Elder Scrolls even have in terms of open world, single-player fantasy RPGs that let you create your character? 🤔

teal trench
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None, to my knowledge.

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EVE Online is close.

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Not very close.

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But, it's the closest I'm aware of.

cinder vessel
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...Er...

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I'm not sure you read my question correctly, lol

teal trench
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in terms of open world, single-player fantasy RPGs that let you create your character
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This fits EVE.

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Hmm, okay. You're not talking about ESO, are you?

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That single player bit is what I misread as "multi-player".

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Again, though - my answer is still the same. To my knowledge, there's nothing that fits those specific criterias. Remove single player, and EVE can be on the list.

rigid haven
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Fallout?

gaunt hare
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Elex (haha)

teal trench
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I totally forgot Fallout existed, lol.

rigid haven
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Haha, I've only really played 4

cinder vessel
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EVE isn't fantasy...

teal trench
cinder vessel
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Still nope

teal trench
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It's a yes.

cinder vessel
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Scifi and fantasy are separate for a reason