but hey
#other-games
cinder vessel
It shook a genre?
tough heron
it certainly set the standard
lavish obsidian
Joey Jumped.
tough heron
mhm
lavish obsidian
I miss Jumping Joey
cinder vessel
standard set: strip away creativity, turn hands into particle streams, wheee
tough heron
see?
teal trench
Ah, ha. The 5th of Feb 2014 was when I did the closed beta: https://i.imgur.com/VPP2qq1.png
It was a stress test thing.
lavish obsidian
..thanks quav
teal trench
o_o
Hmm
So maybe it was open beta, then.
I did the Morrowind closed beta though, apparently...
I don't recall that.
Well, anyways. It's been downloading since I first complained about it, and it's only at 4%.
I'm gonna nope out.
@agile raven, how hot does your GTX 1080 get, with SEUS Renewed?
I can't use it for a single minute, without it jumping to 80c+
agile raven
It takes about 5min
lavish obsidian
yay
agile raven
Yes ^
And seriously, stfu about the creative shit. I'll stop building conveniences in creative if we as a whole decide on more serious gameplay
In fact this is as much as I planned to build anyway
knotty osprey
oh, i wasnt complaining
i was curious which bridge you meant
teal trench
Another reminder to vote, if people haven't: https://www.atlasdivision.net/t/minecraft-server/168/10
https://i.imgur.com/jSEJSPB.png
uncut bramble
Ohhh 50/50 on the first poll!
uncut bramble
There's only one losing out of the four :p
knotty osprey
i can see why creeper griefing would want to be disabled, but if we are going to enforce more serious gameplay (no messing around with op stuff and creative mode), why would a normal mobs main ability be disabled?
agile raven
Guys while you're here, I'm running a new look for the alpha site. Nothing set in stone just trying things out
lavish obsidian
The font on the banner looks a bit squished
cinder vessel
RandomGamer, at least so far as I'm concerned, Creeper's default ability has always been cheap and bad
Much prefer more gradual destruction rather than, "Surprise, your build's busted!"
knotty osprey
i can understand that.
but werent we going for a more vanilla experience?
cinder vessel
Yeah, but think this was a small compromise on that
I think zombies could still break in or something...?
cinder vessel
Speaking of, anyone else pretty excited for State of Decay 2?
knotty osprey
100x100 area that im gonna flatten out to 65 blocks above void for the next few days
serious terraforming project aaaaaaaaaaa
cinder vessel
65 blocks of static
strong hazel
That green and white thing looks like some kinda candy
knotty osprey
it’s gonna be a lighthouse I think
teal trench
primal inlet
it is a lighthouse
cinder vessel
A candycane perhaps
primal inlet
there's a slightly wrong version fully built in the creative world
knotty osprey
nice
primal inlet
there's a creative world and a survival world
and they're fully set apart from one another, connected by the /warp command
blazing torrent
oh ok but how are some people in creative in the survival world
or did i read that wrong
cinder vessel
certain role permissions and all that
sleek shadow
Abuse of higher level permissions??? 
blazing torrent
oh
sleek shadow
Understandable
agile raven
There is no abuse going on 😩
But some people don't like the OP users building in creative
sleek shadow
Imagine what I could build with op
The asian house would be completed instantly
Not to mention I could build so many ships
Ahhhhh
teal trench
We have a creative world, if you really want to do that, Dalek.
agile raven
@sleek shadow feel free to customize your end of the bridge btw
I can spare you some resources if you need
agile raven
I've been expanding the village with a modern area with good intentions but it looks like that won't be happening anymore if people don't want it
yeah k lol
cinder vessel
lol, gathering isn't that bad
blazing torrent
gathering fun wheres your runescape pride
hidden falcon
fun
rain flicker
@primal inlet are you here?
Would You Kindly add this on top of your lighthouse? 😉
it would make me very happy thank you
primal inlet
Right, but...what is it?
rain flicker
Would You Kindly
primal inlet
fuck I need to finish bioshock
rain flicker
Right. You can find the reference in the creative world
winter yew
So is there a way to get spawn eggs in survival? I saw people walking with them
blazing torrent
winter yew
What?
lavish obsidian
Well, some administrators choose to use their powers to spawn wolves or etc.
I don't know, but Mystic Mob spawns can be also configured to allow the possibility of custom drops.
winter yew
ooh
blazing torrent
i didnt know that mobs dropped eggs
lavish obsidian
Then it's admins then.
rain flicker
That's how my tree suddenly had a thousand parrots at 1 spot
lavish obsidian
ah..
rain flicker
Only 2 are left at the top somehow
lavish obsidian
Good night then!
winter yew
I really want a spawn egg
primal inlet
of?
blazing torrent
i want a spawn egg of a spawn egg 
rain flicker
Spawn eggs
primal inlet
hm
spawn eggs can be tagged to spawn dropped item entities, but they crash the client immediately and the dropped item can't even be defined
I really hoped I could spawn a spawn egg that spawned spawn eggs on the floor where you clicked
winter yew
What is a socket gem?
primal inlet
If you have a socket sword, you can put it in there
Socket swords are only wood right now,though....
Should probably fix that
winter yew
Socket sword?
primal inlet
Rare-ish drop from mobs
Socket gems give them unique effects
It's a server plugin thing
hidden falcon
eggs
limber harness
what do i need to unbreak or explain
lavish obsidian
I think Cycka simply wants a spawn egg
rain flicker
And I want the rapture statue on the lighthouse
winter yew
I got griefed btw
I came online a few hours ago and bam griefed
Do we have raid protection?
primal inlet
What kinda griefing?
primal inlet
^^^^
sick arrow
are you outside of the safe zone
bc if so and it was an explosion it could be a creepy creeper
also yeah socket swords seem like they could be cool but wood aint worth it especially with mute deafens, mine is at sharp 4 unbreak 3 now lol
also i know im talking a lot but I had an idea, what if we started a hardcore difficulty world, no plug ins, no ease of use features, pvp on, you're dead you're dead
could be a game night event or could go on if people are good
limber harness
yeah i can def spin up an event server
sick arrow
only if people want it and understand what hardcore and uhc entails though
primal inlet
speaking of socket swords I'll try and throw together a MythicDrops custom item yml with better socket swords when I get home
sick arrow
did someone break it 
sick arrow
i think if its protected you cant use it
rain flicker
1 map is missing a corner
I'll go fix that
actually, quite some maps are missing parts
ehm wtf
Spirit removed the sign
4.89 h ago
@limber harness
limber harness
hmm
limber harness
@agile raven ?
rain flicker
can I atleast get it back meanwhile?
rain flicker
oh sure
limber harness
> lag
Uptime: 1 day 19 hours 11 minutes
Current TPS = 19.96
Maximum memory: 5,947 MB.
Allocated memory: 5,947 MB.
Free memory: 1,528 MB.
World "world": 1,444 chunks, 996 entities, 2,074 tiles.
Nether "world_nether": 0 chunks, 0 entities, 0 tiles.
The End "world_the_end": 0 chunks, 0 entities, 0 tiles.
World "creative": 256 chunks, 53 entities, 99 tiles.
o.o
rain flicker
we all got worldedit in creative right?
limber harness
no not yet
rain flicker
oh
limber harness
sorry 😦
rain flicker
well I'm in the creative world right now that may explain that thing
but I didn't do anything weird
I'm going to test out some designs for my tree
sick arrow
oh if we do do hard core or UHC maybe the one and only plug in we could have is player heads. it could encourage killing and play into an economy because there will only be one head to every player
daring badge
yo
primal inlet
oy
daring badge
i kinda like playerheads...
idea
but maybe thats a third wold
survival, creative, hardcore
limber harness
This would have to be a separate event server.
sick arrow
yeah i didnt think you'd be able to like, seperate plugins over worlds
daring badge
o could u bungeecord?
sick arrow
?
limber harness
I could use BungeeCord
daring badge
link servers together
hence, type a command/click a sign and autojoun that server
and you can have mySQL to link perms
using pex
limber harness
daring badge
i did this
limber harness
are you telling me how to run a server network
daring badge
nah
sick arrow
no one gets perms on hardcore
daring badge
just how i did it
sick arrow
limber harness
seriously. ultra hardcore is pretty much gonna be 98% vanilla.
sick arrow
like i said maybe heads, only things that add exactly 0 additional features
limber harness
Those do not work.
daring badge
huh. id did for me
limber harness
That was also 1.8
PerWorldPlugins are notoriously buggy and cause massive stability issues when deployed at scale.
daring badge
i hosted an entire server network on just one 3gb server (hub and 2 games) one 512mb server (proxy) and 3 1gb servers (games)
ahh
sick arrow
1.12 bois
daring badge
XD
i have a satble 1.13 server running on my PC rn... just messing around
anyway. Ima go back to installing mods
brb
limber harness
But yeah, it would be pretty easy to set up an event server
limber harness
If I do the bungee route that may take more time (as it involves a full deploy of the MCCN ILB stack), so that may be a concern/whatever. CC <@&411888940052774932>, as this could be a potential path we go down.
ashen sable
Hmm?
limber harness
Someone mentioned the idea of ultra hardcore as a game night event
limber harness
Yeah... no.
sleek shadow
That's even worse!
ashen sable
Actually, it can be quite fun :P
sleek shadow
I like it sweet and simple
sleek shadow
Normal survival with a few new tricks
sleek shadow
^^^
ashen sable
:(
limber harness
And, depending on the mods, makes it very hard for some users to play. Game Night should not be exclusionary because certain users don't have a four-processor Xeon server with 4-way SLI Titan GPUs
primal inlet
There's also the issue of 1.12 modpacks often requiring, at minimum, 6gb allocated
though we could always go back to good old 1.2.5 👀
sleek shadow
No
ashen sable
@limber harness I could run RR3 on intergrated graphics with an i3
I'm not saying a whole modpack though
limber harness
Oh god, forcing users to install individual mods. That's somehow even worse.
ashen sable
Anyways, if the modpack is made properly then it doesn't require a giant computer
sleek shadow
Yeah
primal inlet
Distribute through CurseForge?
limber harness
Or... just do near-vanilla
ashen sable
Kaz have you ever heard of curse or multimc >.>
sick arrow
Well I said game night but really it could be a consistent thing if we have good players
ashen sable
NOT individual mods
limber harness
Yes, I have, Sky.
sleek shadow
Installing individual mods can be very unorganized and if not in the right configuration would screw them up
limber harness
If you want to design a modpack that will run on all operating systems (I will be testing on Solaris) on pretty much all systems, be my guest.
ashen sable
I'm not saying we throw download links at people for mods, just one for a modpack we could make
I'm already helping make a couple modpacks, one of which runs very well on the majority of computers
sick arrow
Does vanilla Minecraft even run on Solaris
limber harness
Yes. I like running vanilla. Makes everyone's life easier, and nobody needs to learn 200 new mechanics.
sick arrow
I like the idea of a vanilla (possibly with heads) hardcore or ultra hardcore that could start on a game night but runs until everyone dies
sleek shadow
I just want vinilla with a few added features
Like the weird mob plugin
Whatever you guys installed
ashen sable
Mods doesn't have to add 200 new features you know
sleek shadow
Then why does every modpack do that
sick arrow
modded isn’t as bad as people are making out but for what will likely be (unless we have super good players) a short lived couple day game, we don’t need mods
at least not to start
ashen sable
Modded can be whatever you want
limber harness
Yeah. this isn't a persistent server. It'll be around for 72 hours, tops.
There is no compelling reason to require mods.
ashen sable
It's just a lot more interesting then vanilla at least to me
sick arrow
I like the idea of mods on the main server considering the state it’s currently in but not a short thing like this
ashen sable
Or a seperate modded server
limber harness
If we want to make a separate modded server, I can look at doing that.
ashen sable
I'd be up for helping maintain a modded server
strong hazel
Didn‘t you make a modpack for that kinda thing erock?
primal inlet
shhhhj
ashen sable
We could either make a modpack ourselves, or choose one that's already made
limber harness
or, you know, we can just use the already existing infrastructure.
sick arrow
I did make a partial one but I doubt its well optimized I haven’t tested it
I like the idea of an established FTB pack like direwolf or thaumcraft or something
primal inlet
Is RR on curse now? Or is ATLauncher still a thing
sick arrow
Rr?
primal inlet
ah
strong hazel
What‘s RR?
daring badge
heeey
strong hazel
Does that have the thermal mods?
ashen sable
It's a kitchen sink pack yeah
Got a fair amount of magic mods, tech mods
All sorts
primal inlet
Could get some nice variety on a server with that, assuming it had a large enough playerbase
limber harness
^ Another thing.
sick arrow
All I need is quarries and twilight Forrest
limber harness
This server has a very small playerbase
Splitting things persistently like this will cause the death of the server.
limber harness
No, it won't.
sick arrow
We vote on whether we add mods or not? See if people like it or not
strong hazel
Yeah, some people don‘t like modpacks
ashen sable
There's more to do, so you wont get everything done within like a day or so
primal inlet
I guarantee some people are just scraping by, is yet another issue
strong hazel
Oh it has draconic evolution...
sick arrow
Wouldn’t be the first time we voted on a major gameplay alteration
primal inlet
As in, barely enough RAM as is
sick arrow
that’s also a consideration
limber harness
Any modded games will definitely be a new server, no way around that. I'm not altering the existing server to force people to use mods.
ashen sable
I only have 8GB RAM, I can run it fine. And I used to be able to as well
strong hazel
Yeah that‘d be bad kaz
limber harness
Thing is, users will find whatever they want more and stick there. Meaning, we will have users leave one for the other, and that will spread our already-thin userbase even thinner
ashen sable
Nothing higher unless you use a resource pack because java sucks
limber harness
Tacking on a new gamemode will not increase a playerbase. It never has, it never will.
ashen sable
You never know unless you don't shoot down ideas instantly
limber harness
Or... or... I'm speaking from experience?
sick arrow
Either it wouldnt get used or people will split. I know if we add quarries it’ll make my build idea easier and I’ll permanently move to modded
strong hazel
Yeah, I gotta agree with kaz there. Splitting players isn‘t a good idea
daring badge
r u guys voting an making this a modded server?
limber harness
No, we are not.
daring badge
ok. discussing?
sick arrow
Kaz doesn’t like a vote for that we’re deciding if a new modded server will kill it
ashen sable
Yeah no, we're not having a modded server then I'm guessing
strong hazel
What if we just look how the vanilla server evolves, and if that one starts dying out and people play less, we‘ll play a modpack.
limber harness
We're discussing the possibility of adding a modded server separate to the existing one.
ashen sable
Sorry I brang up the idea 🤷
daring badge
ok.
sick arrow
I like the idea but unless we voted in adding mods to the current map it won’t work
sick arrow
Though I will say it doesn’t hurt to put it to a vote
limber harness
A server split won't work because it will kill us. We don't have the userbase to sustain it, and adding mods will not bring in new users from the community.
daring badge
but it would mean that each server would bearaly have anyone on
uncut bramble
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daring badge
yeah what kaz said
ashen sable
I'm out of this argument
limber harness
If we want to do this, we need to convert the existing server. And that is something that I do not think will ever pass.
primal inlet
(psst, Matt - 11pm GMT)
daring badge
are the jackbox games free?
uncut bramble
Yeah, which is 5 hours from now 😃
sick arrow
Well again it doesn’t hurt to vote
devils advocate
but I’m also a devil
So just advocate
limber harness
I can start up a vote if you guys want, but I do want to make my stance very clear about this.
That is, if we do this, it will kill the server solely because of how small we are.
daring badge
yep
hidden falcon
small
ashen sable
Look, if it's going to kill the playerbase there's no point then
That's all I'm gonna say
sick arrow
Well we don’t know unless people vote
If it’s a no it’s a no but we won’t know until we know it’s a no
uncut bramble
If it’s a no it’s a no but we won’t know until we know it’s a no
Favourite quote of the day
ashen sable
Kaz is speaking from experience so he's probably going to be correct
sick arrow
❤
light cairn
they don't think it be like it is but it do
primal inlet
I believe we've hit 12 at a few points
sick arrow
Well if people vote yes then Kaz is wrong unless people are dumb and vote for things they don’t want like Brexit or something
ashen sable
Kaz will be correct
daring badge
the server needs to be featured in game night XD
hidden falcon
🤔
uncut bramble
Kaz is correct xD 😛
sick arrow
he normally is but we aren’t time travelers
hidden falcon
if it is you should probably make a backup or something 🤔
primal inlet
We could do a game night, but there's...not much we can do to spice it up without a lot of preparation
hidden falcon
🤔
primal inlet
Well, that
limber harness
98% vanilla (playerheads, maybe some other small tweaks).
daring badge
That sounds good
hidden falcon
i meant cause a lot of new people might just eat everything 🤔
limber harness
I would have it up tonight, but I don't have the resources/capability to do that right now.
light cairn
i stole the letter!?!?! (had that typed before kaz's message)
hidden falcon
my think is yellow
uncut bramble
give back the b
primal inlet
give ack the b*
primal rover
agreed, return the b
uncut bramble
give ack the *
limber harness
Plus it takes more than 30 minutes to deploy the full MCCN ILB stack
primal inlet
Yeah, take your time, this night's been set in stone for...a few days now?
knotty osprey
🤔 there is an argument here but I don’t know what it’s about
uncut bramble
Best not to know 😂
ashen sable
It was just a silly arguement
primal rover
It's about returning the b to it's rightful owner
uncut bramble
Well that's important for sure
knotty osprey
🐝 ?
primal inlet
embolden the b
uncut bramble
Skipspace the Theif
knotty osprey
🅱
primal inlet
no go back
knotty osprey
upgrade
primal inlet
I SAID GO BACK
limber harness
Putting up a poll now
knotty osprey
about what
light cairn
giving back the b
limber harness
This server is the community's more or less, so the community does have the final say in these matters.
limber harness
soon meaning now
daring badge
i think you should add another world/server (whitch ever is easier) and make it hardcore
daring badge
and we can wait for a modpack when everybody can vote
knotty osprey
it already got posted
limber harness
I think hardcore is happening regardless as part of a future Game Night.
daring badge
o cool
daring badge
I yeah
winter yew
Private chests and claimable area's
sick arrow
claimable area is pretty abusable
limber harness
^ this
limber harness
the server is small enough and made of a small enough user circle that i don't see the point of requiring claiming. we all know each other here, in other words.
winter yew
Btw Kaz why do I have Cult Of Dave as a rank ;P
sick arrow
/co i is good enough for a tiny community server
limber harness
Because you have Cult of Dave here
strong hazel
Yeah Claiming really isn‘t needed
light cairn
how often does the dynmap update?
sick arrow
Once every thousand years as the prophecy dictates
winter yew
What happens if the fuck book sees the daylight?
primal inlet
nothin' good
ocean wind
what is fuck book
teal trench
o.o
winter yew
#.#
teal trench
Just my opinion, but... as far as servers go:
Plugins > Modded
Mods are neat and all, but I agree with almost everything Kaz said on the matter. I do disagree with the sentiment that it's somehow "difficult" or "annoying" or whatever to install client-side mods. Even just one at a time, it's extremely simple - just a matter of dragging and dropping into the mod folder. Installing Forge is a single click, and has an install button. It couldn't be any easier.
rain flicker
No no mods
limber harness
@teal trench What's difficult is getting everyone on the same version/use the same configs/etc
teal trench
^
I was only discussing the sentiment about annoyance/difficulty with installing lol.
100% agree, no mods.
rain flicker
Also it's kinda vague how heavily it will be modded
teal trench
OptiFine was updated, if anyone uses it: https://optifine.net/adloadx?f=OptiFine_1.12.2_HD_U_D1.jar
teal trench
Reminder to vote on the casual vs survival gameplay poll - it's currently at 54/46 with 13 votes.
Link: https://www.atlasdivision.net/t/minecraft-server/168/10
https://i.imgur.com/PlWK4bl.png
agile raven
@rain flicker my god something we agree on 
agile raven
I believe people were abusing it as an xray hack
rain flicker
...
you can't even
you don't see diamonds or anything
only caves, and you can only use it in spawn
you, spirit, made an entire town in creative
limber harness
that is, until people started abusing the hell out of it and using it to travel to specific places very easily.
rain flicker
yet are afraid of abusing
limber harness
It was meant to allow people to explore in spectator in peace and to take photos/whatever.
rain flicker
Kaz you didn't even know about this when I told you
what is the sudden change of mind
agile raven
Because he'd already brought it up
rain flicker
how can you even abuse this really, you can only get it in spawn, you can only see caves, that's it
limber harness
But, people kept deciding they really wanted to abuse the feature and use it to get into caves, sethomes, etc.
limber harness
I was considering removing it because of the constant attempts to exploit it. Spirit just seemed to beat me to it
rain flicker
so will your creative build town be going away as well? once again no offense, I do like it, it's just... it could have easily been made in survival
agile raven
I get some people's wants for that experience. I got rid of the op items, or put them away somewhere. They aren't being used anymore. If the poll wins in your favour, the creative building in the survival world will cease
For
Fuck
Sake
It is seriously a moot point.
limber harness
I do want to ask a question - who is it hurting?
teal trench
^ LIke I said before, I'm happy and perfectly okay with creative stuff in survival. Creative does not equal cheating.
I do get and understand (to an extent) that players have an issue with it.
I personally don't have any qualms.
knotty osprey
its not hurting anyone, its just annoying that people with mod powers build stuff in creative while all the other people build stuff in survival in the same world
rain flicker
^^
we got the most strict rules ever not allowed to abuse even the smallest slightest thing to make things a little bit easier (which I get) while someone with mod does everything no problem. it just feels unfair that I'm putting so much time and effort into my stuff
knotty osprey
conclusion: it just feels unfair.
brisk merlin
i was hoping for a m o d d e d server :<
knotty osprey
also im bored and have read all the messages everywhere
help
limber harness
see, reasonable argument. thank you!
rain flicker
I actually didn't want to continue the discussion since I thought it wasn't going anywhere. So I'll stop now
nobody is getting happy from having it
knotty osprey
^
rain flicker
it = the discussion
strong hazel
oh ok
I though it = pineapples on a pizza
cause noone gets happy from having that either
knotty osprey
light cairn
hawaiian pizza 👌
uncut bramble
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agile raven
<@&425639805758603269> ^
sick arrow
You can also argue game mode 3 hurts people just as little as building a whole town in creative, or spawning items, so I mean I don’t think it should have been just removed
NICE THROW
knotty osprey
aaaaa
game night is at 00:00 for me, and i have to be asleep by then :(
brisk merlin
oof
sleek shadow
Hot
agile raven
If people want more serious gameplay and are being sort of jerkish about it, they will get it. No soft edges
winter yew
Btw I just got added in the Mod election list! YAY!!
agile raven
Gamemode 3 can be abused by players in a vanilla survival world, so it will go.
sleek shadow
What if we don't want it
teal trench
I'm with spirit on this. >.>
agile raven
You can't pick and choose
sick arrow
I agree but in the servers current state it should not be removed until the vote is made
winter yew
^
agile raven
@winter yew who are you in game?
teal trench
People were indeed being arsehats about your creative stuff. They should get as much as they give.
agile raven
No I mean your username xD
safe umbra
What’s happening?
agile raven
I'm being fair.
safe umbra
Serious gameplay
brisk merlin
I do
sleek shadow
Bad dragon
sick arrow
The vote isn’t made yet, just like you can still use creative we should have gamemode 3 until if and when the time comes for serious gameplay
agile raven
That's what about 50% want yes
winter yew
I want an little rp really. Or just normal survival
agile raven
I'm not using creative mode to build anymore
brisk merlin
bad dragon OWO
agile raven
I've finished what I set out to build
teal trench
Just a reminder: Don't be upset if serious gameplay wins and you get reprimanded for your behaviour/actions. You voted for serious, and that's what you'll get.
safe umbra
was this similar to how WYIM was giving out diamonds
sleek shadow
Oh no
sick arrow
and that’s your choice but no official change has been made
sleek shadow
Look what you made me do kev
winter yew
Roleplays on Minecraft are quite fun
safe umbra
eRock especially complained on how the admins was giving us free stuff at a party
winter yew
Wat
sick arrow
I did yes
safe umbra
Said it was ruining his gameplay
sleek shadow
Why not
sick arrow
I don’t get how that applies right now but
sleek shadow
Split the world into two
Have one that's serious and unregulated
People do what they want
Anarchy
safe umbra
Here was my solution to that; He decided not to get those diamonds, thats fine, and its not his fault then yes?
sleek shadow
And the other gentle and regulated
safe umbra
How would it be affecting your gameplay
primal inlet
lejet that's not the current topic
safe umbra
It sort of is
winter yew
When I find my 2nd llama I can be a llama supplier for Euclid :P
safe umbra
He wants serious gameplay
primal inlet
Very yes
sick arrow
See some people see serious as regulated there’s a big discrepancy over what serious means and that’s why I haven’t voted
primal inlet
to Cycka
safe umbra
very yes to me
sleek shadow
Who doesnt
safe umbra
I dont care
winter yew
Idc
winter yew
I like RP's and I like Survival and I like sirious gameplay
safe umbra
No one can bother you for that
sleek shadow
What does spirit want
safe umbra
Ok
winter yew
I played sirious all the time btw
agile raven
I don't care
sleek shadow
Someone link me to the vote
safe umbra
What’s ruining your gameplay to the people who wanted to play seriously
winter yew
So actually: Nobody cares
safe umbra
That others arent playing seriously??
safe umbra
^
safe umbra
nO!
sick arrow
Honestly I don’t want serious. I want free items and creative to stop. This vote is very much on the opposite spectrums though and idk what’s going on lol
winter yew
Reminder to vote on the casual vs survival gameplay poll - it's currently at 54/46 with 13 votes.
Link: https://www.atlasdivision.net/t/minecraft-server/168/10
https://i.imgur.com/PlWK4bl.png
safe umbra
Uhm
sleek shadow
That is serious though
primal inlet
wow look it's exactly my opinion (@Erock)
safe umbra
Whats wrong with creative now
sleek shadow
Wait who has creative
I don't
What am I missing out
Creative is the best game mode
safe umbra
What’s wrong with creative mode
winter yew
50% true
safe umbra
It has nothing to do with survival yes?
winter yew
75
primal inlet
PSA that the creative world does exist, even if it's mostly a bunch of meaningless builds right now
safe umbra
But why the need to remove it
light cairn
there isn't?
winter yew
I'm on my phone under the shower. Show me a toe
light cairn
wat
safe umbra
Nicethrow said so
winter yew
Wat
safe umbra
Wow that rhymed
winter yew
Its kev for u
agile raven
Jet you're misunderstanding
sleek shadow
And broke the tie
brisk merlin
kev
agile raven
Just, shhh until you know what people are talking about
sleek shadow
Kev
brisk merlin
kev?
safe umbra
I’ve always been misunderstoof
sleek shadow
:kev:
knotty osprey
🐉
sleek shadow
Too green
brisk merlin
yes
winter yew
How to tame a kev
safe umbra
@sick arrow Said that he wanted free items and creative to stop
brisk merlin
you dont
safe umbra
I wasnt mentioning kev
sick arrow
Yes that’s what I said
sleek shadow
No u
brisk merlin
no u
sleek shadow
Wot
primal inlet
you are misunderstanding though
winter yew
What shampoo should I use? Rituals or axe?
sleek shadow
Such poor rendering
brisk merlin
both
safe umbra
i dONT UNDERSTANND
winter yew
Yes sir
safe umbra
You cant make me sleep
winter yew
This is for the grown ups LeJet
safe umbra
Especially on the weekend
sick arrow
Sleepy boi
sick arrow
Lejet wouldn’t wanna miss game night
sleek shadow
Yay
light cairn
I can't make you sleep but I can do something else 
🔇
safe umbra
What other term can he be talking aboout
winter yew
safe umbra
Other than creative mode
light cairn
winter yew
Explain it to him Kevofefe
sleek shadow
And people who know how to build
brisk merlin
UWU
winter yew
Kev
sleek shadow
Bring us the FAWE
winter yew
Show me ur lungs
sick arrow
serious gameplay is gunna probably also include no homes, no keep inv, no spectator, no /back, no small fun builds etc. and I don’t think anyone actually asked for that. What people asked for is what I said
safe umbra
Look at this
sick arrow
show lungs
primal inlet
erock speaks the truth, at least for me
sleek shadow
And what is it you said?
safe umbra
Look at how much we have feared to become
sick arrow
I just said no creative and free item access for specific people
winter yew
So what shower gel should I use? Rituals or Nivea
sick arrow
That’s all
teal trench
Just want to say this: When I started hosting it initially, it was a creative server with a secondary survival world. That was changed, when people started wanting things to be more serious and survival friendly. If y'all want to go back to being a casual goofy creative server, I'm all for it.
safe umbra
Jesus fuck Cyka
winter yew
I don't want to get raped
winter yew
Because I thicc
sick arrow
Why are the only two options casual creative and serious vanilla. No one wants those to be the only options
safe umbra
someone made them that way
sleek shadow
JUST MAKE TWO FUCKING WORLDS
sick arrow
WE HAVE TWO WORLDS
primal inlet
There are two worlds.
sleek shadow
Download fucking multiverse
winter yew
What shower gel bois
primal inlet
The issue occurred when Creative was used in Survival
safe umbra
Alright
teal trench
We have multiverse.
sick arrow
And we can only vote on those two there aren’t any middle ground options
sleek shadow
Then just set specific permission for each world
sick arrow
That’s the issue
safe umbra
For fucks sake
sleek shadow
It's that fucking easy
teal trench
We have creative and survival - specifically because of multiverse.
safe umbra
Who is unhappy with the survival’s current state
teal trench
It's already setup, Dalek.
sleek shadow
All you needn
teal trench
You people keep voting, and changing your minds.
sleek shadow
Is world edit access on creative
safe umbra
Answer me question lads
sick arrow
No one has changed their minds people just keep assuming
light cairn
how bout just delete the server and then everyone is happy 
teal trench
You - the players - run the server. You control the direction things go, by voting. The state the server is in right now, is from voting.
sick arrow
Skip is very chaotic evil today
strong hazel
I actually don't mind people using creative from time to time, as long as they don't just cheat everything. If you still mainly play survival then it's fine
teal trench
Democracy caused the current state.
winter yew
Last questo_O
strong hazel
also yeha, skip has a great idea
primal inlet
For the most part, people are fine with it, Lejet - but IIRC it's the row of modern houses near the portal that crossed a line for some people
safe umbra
How about we never mention minecraft ever again
sick arrow
yeah when someone builds a small town and a bridge in less time than it took us to build the statehouse that’s a problem
winter yew
Brb need to put my clothes on
sleek shadow
There's this magic trick with world edit
sick arrow
Even if you cut out all the goofing off
primal inlet
We do have stuff built in those chunks
sleek shadow
Make fix the area
primal inlet
Minecart tunnels
safe umbra
Is anyone complaining about my house
sleek shadow
Regen doesn't edit the chunk
primal inlet
No.
safe umbra
Specifically the di- tower
sleek shadow
It edits the selected region
teal trench
Dalek, it's almost like you're the only one who understands how simple world edit is. Why not explain some more, to us simpletons?
sleek shadow
It just uses data from the chunk
sleek shadow
I can explain world edit and vs because I proffesionally build with them lol
limber harness
^ tbh this is looking more attractive right now
winter yew
doit
sleek shadow
What do you need to know
limber harness
nah
safe umbra
We’re here because we p-
primal inlet
wait, then what?
sleek shadow
You don't need to delete it
winter yew
Penetrate?
agile raven
Because this is what happens every time I try to do something nice on that server
Jfc
teal trench
^
limber harness
safe umbra
It’s stupid
sleek shadow
Don't make them delete it
winter yew
No u
sleek shadow
Just don't fucking play on it anymore
safe umbra
I can’t believe someone’s complaining that an admin was giving free drops, at a party
primal inlet
once again, that's not the issue on the table, Lejet
sleek shadow
I can't believe anyone's complaining right now
agile raven
That argument has already been beaten to death jet
safe umbra
I WILL BEAT IT AGAIN MORE
primal inlet
Then perish That's not very helpful
safe umbra
Cause it relates to this whole serious gameplay
sleek shadow
Jesus Christ it's like I'm trapped in a room with first years
agile raven
This is a new grievance against my tyrannical reign of terror
teal trench
NMS_discord_minecraft_drama.exe has initiated.
safe umbra
If someone gives you free stuff
light cairn
delet
light cairn
LeJet STOp
sleek shadow
You guys need a new approach to governing
Stop the democracy
Establish a constitutional dictatorship
safe umbra
And the other fact that having modern houses in our village
primal inlet
Can we have a democratic republic or something?
safe umbra
who cares
safe umbra
Are all of these houses we built legit
primal inlet
Yes
safe umbra
silently screeches
limber harness
Yeah. I think that was a mistake.
sleek shadow
And makes a decision based on their wants and on the server
teal trench
How about this: No more democracy, and make it a dictatorship. Clearly, people don't know what they want, and are unable to make proper, concise decisions.
sleek shadow
But not souly on the people
He adds his own intentions and what the server needs
And right now we're doing just fine so
Yeah
Don't make it an absolute dictatorship
Make it constitutional
teal trench
Dictatorship with advisers.
sleek shadow
Maybe oligarchic
teal trench
Admins being the advisers.
sick arrow
dictatorship is a bad idea lol
safe umbra
Not the server
sleek shadow
You need a constitutional oligarchy
primal inlet
Representative democracy?
agile raven
Dear god
sleek shadow
Listen to the people but still have the server depend on your leadership and decisions
primal inlet
lmao
safe umbra
No
agile raven
This is turning into the UN
safe umbra
What you need
strong hazel
you know, democracy doesn't work if people don't educate themselves about what exactly they want and are deciding on
teal trench
Don't worry, Spirit. We're creating Russia v2.
sleek shadow
Clearly you need a democratic technocracy
safe umbra
is the SECRET POLICE
agile raven
USSNMSDIISCORD
winter yew
Minecraft needs communism
sleek shadow
Heed the words of the technocratic state
teal trench
MeinKraft?
agile raven
We need a mosque tbh
winter yew
It's not mine craft it's ourcraft
primal inlet
bold does not make your argument more valid
sick arrow
do any of us actively play nms tbf
sleek shadow
Nah we need science labs
safe umbra
Debating what to do with a god damn minecraft server
sleek shadow
Kaz take the reigns on your server already
limber harness
Alright. So at this point I'll just make a vote "Do you just want the admins to run the server based on what they think is best?"
sick arrow
no
winter yew
No
winter yew
We need to have a sort of council
sleek shadow
Take it from me
agile raven
I'm going to eat something
sleek shadow
I've staffed dozens of servers
winter yew
Bye Spirit
teal trench
TIL spirit is into vore.
sleek shadow
If you want advice
limber harness
So have I.
honest trench
Wuts this about drama?
sick arrow
everyone type up a business plan style document about what kind of server you want and we vote
xd
limber harness
I just decided to go with "let the community regulate itself" here because that was how the server was set up when I got the files.
agile raven
Imagine if Hypixel was run by user wants
sleek shadow
Absolute democracy is the drama wamp
teal trench
^
agile raven
Fuuuck me 
honest trench
Fuck democracy
sleek shadow
I'm trying to teach him how we staff things on hippout
sick arrow
imagine if we had 1000s of players this isnt hipixel wtf argument is that
teal trench
That's what I said, Wamp.
sleek shadow
How hipp has all the power but still takes the people into consideration
Just not entirely
winter yew
There needs to be a council for the plans with all staff + some normal players
teal trench
Dictatorship with advisers - the admins.
honest trench
^
winter yew
we do not grant you the rank of master
teal trench
Oligarchy is a form of power structure in which power rests with a small number of people. These people might be distinguished by nobility, wealth, family ties, education or corporate, religious or military control.
Yes
sick arrow
gamenight is gunna be fun
winter yew
Let's just become America and search for oil
honest trench
This isnt real life, imo democracy is better than dictatorship but thats when people actually care about living and what they want, here we just need 1-3 sources of absolute power
light cairn
y'all are crazy lol
teal trench
I like how Putin has things setup.
limber harness
sleek shadow
And used hiro hito as a figure head
sick arrow
do it kaz
sleek shadow
No Kaz
sick arrow
do it
limber harness
sleek shadow
Just take the reigns
primal inlet
you know he'll do it
sleek shadow
And stop the wild horse
sick arrow
end it
light cairn
destroy it
sleek shadow
Before it hits it's head in the tree
winter yew
Do it
sick arrow
i know i know he'll do it
strong hazel
kill it with fire
honest trench
Do it
teal trench
strong hazel
burn it all down
honest trench
Complete your training
winter yew
Kill him
honest trench
Do it anakin
sleek shadow
Burn it
agile raven
Kaz, just run things however you want.
teal trench
^
honest trench
^
sleek shadow
🔥 🔥 🔥
winter yew
Your on this council... But we do not grant you the rank of master