other-games

[sleek shadow]

What y'all talking bout

[ocean wind]

it would be cool if the bridge was rounded on the same radius as the tree

[teal trench]

@sleek shadow RuneScape.

[shy badger]

heyoo

[sleek shadow]

Would be cool if I could design the side of the bridge that's next to me to fit my style

In terraforming that peninsula anyway

[brisk merlin]

Can someone get rid of "kevs real estate" for me? Thanks... I didn't want that building

[sleek shadow]

It's gonna be a giant Zen rock garden

I'll buy it ❤

[brisk merlin]

And I didn't ask for that building

[sleek shadow]

I'll buy it anyway ❤

[brisk merlin]

Give me money

[sleek shadow]

£££

[agile raven]

@sleek shadow feel free

[ocean wind]

where did it come from

[brisk merlin]

Whale

[sleek shadow]

Wait to which suggestion @agile raven

[agile raven]

That side was only a placeholder anyway

[sleek shadow]

Oh

Yeah ok

[teal trench]

@light cairn https://i.imgur.com/USfhCCG.png

[sleek shadow]

I'm busy for the next week though but I'll see if I can sneak on

[brisk merlin]

I dont want the real estate place so redo it or remove it

[light cairn]

neat

[ocean wind]

how do you get things labeled on the map

[sleek shadow]

^

[brisk merlin]

Only mods

[teal trench]

@ocean wind Ask a Helper+ rank.

[sleek shadow]

I want my teahouse to have lable

[teal trench]

Deluxer, Joey, and Whale all have the perms now.

[sleek shadow]

@limber harness

Please add a lable

For my teahouse

[limber harness]

i have no idea how

[sleek shadow]

Oh

[brisk merlin]

O h

[sleek shadow]

Then sorry for bothering you

[teal trench]

I'll do it then. >.>

[sleek shadow]

Thanks quav

[brisk merlin]

Remove my real estate too, thanks

[teal trench]

What are the coords?

@sleek shadow

[sleek shadow]

It's the asian house

On the peninsula

Next to the new bridge

I don't have the coords

[teal trench]

Oh, Deluxer is on.

Ask him

[sleek shadow]

I have to go back to work

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/GlYGTDc.png

[sleek shadow]

I'll be back in a few hours

[sick arrow]

is that like cheaper casa bonita

[ocean wind]

it's actually more expensive

[teal trench]

@primal inlet https://i.imgur.com/9WKRvfC.png https://i.imgur.com/WczYnSn.png

[primal inlet]

right, one sec

[sick arrow]

what style of asian architecture was the inspiration

i havent seen it yet

[brisk merlin]

Hey furrydog remove my real estate

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/Ka6cEq6.png

[primal inlet]

...is there any issue with you guys if - okay

[ocean wind]

wa?

WA?

[brisk merlin]

WA

[ocean wind]

im moving out east to this now

[sick arrow]

i have those mountains riddled with tnt pressure plate traps be careful

[cinder vessel]

lol wait seriously?

[limber harness]

no

[sick arrow]

no i wish i had that much tnt

also you dont know kaz

[agile raven]

Check the logs

[limber harness]

i mean or do i

[teal trench]

@brisk merlin https://i.imgur.com/LTqHCg3.png

Just grass now.

I relocated it to the creative world, though.

[ocean wind]

sad

the signs inside were pretty funny

[teal trench]

It's in creative, if you want to see it.

[sick arrow]

is creative about to become the museum

[teal trench]

I guess.

I moved the giant obby thing there, too.

https://i.imgur.com/4MsmDIz.png

[ocean wind]

FUCK

my elytra broke mid flight from the launch pad

[teal trench]

Banana found the secret cow lair.

https://i.imgur.com/hfaHrE2.png

[ocean wind]

@limber harness can you change the MC commands to allow for 1 character sethome names?

[limber harness]

I don't think I can

But I'll look when I get home

Or when I get on the other train line.

[ocean wind]

ok, Deluxer said he could and it might be a perms thing

ty

[teal trench]

@limber harness for context: https://i.imgur.com/1GTRg30.png

[limber harness]

Maybe. Not sure tbh

[teal trench]

Remember to vote, people: https://i.imgur.com/YULur7d.png
https://www.atlasdivision.net/t/minecraft-server/168/10

[daring badge]

Hey Quav? What mod u use for the health bar

[teal trench]

It's a mod called Neat.

Literally.

[rare coral]

neat is a nice mod

[teal trench]

^

[rare coral]

I love inventory tweaks and mouse tweaks as well

[teal trench]

@daring badge https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/neat

[light cairn]

neet

[rare coral]

yea only reason I didnt add that is the server has a similar function

[daring badge]

Thx.. so I will need to install forge? (I remember trying to get forge to work with optifine was a real bitch)

[rare coral]

I dont have optifine(mostly cause I dont need it)

but yes

mods use forge

[daring badge]

Yes. But optifine dissnt

But you can’t install optifine, then install forge

In the same orofile

Can forge run optifine as a mod itself?

Like just any old mod

[rare coral]

I personally havent used optifine with forge so I have no clue

[daring badge]

Huh. GOOGLE!!! COME OVER HERE!!

I NEED SONETHING

[primal inlet]

google is always there for you, you don't need to yell

also you can install Optifine exactly like any other mod

you don't even need to "extract" it or anything

[ocean wind]

what's a google

[teal trench]

@ocean wind @sick arrow, sorry. I have really strong opinions about PvP and the related behaviour that tends to accompany it. I got snippy ingame, because I was irritable and sick of the topic at large. This is about as reasonable an explanation as I can give: https://i.imgur.com/CnbVhBf.png

[agile raven]

Optifine is ridiculously easy to install

[ocean wind]

ok, but I mean, it's a game

[teal trench]

It's not a game when the people act the way I described in that screenshot.

[ocean wind]

I respect your opinion, but I've had a couple really good experiences with it

well ban them?

we're in control here

[teal trench]

"Hurr durr it's just a joke bro!" "calm down!"
Is what I'm getting out of you.

[ocean wind]

...

how?

[rare coral]

thats not what they said at all?

[teal trench]

Since you're unwilling to read, I'm not gonna continue.

[ocean wind]

wat

you are a ranked member on the server. there are active mods/admins on frequently. and we all communicate in discord. if pvp issues arise , there is ample power here to take care of it.

that is what I am saying.

I don't know how you interpreted the former

[sick arrow]

i will also say while pvp can breed that behavior it is very far from the only time that happens

go play Ark pve

shudders

[cinder vessel]

O_o

what happens with that?

[sick arrow]

Ark is full of doxing and ddos, theres a feature that makes it so you cant build close to someone elses structure and people abuse it to block off areas

and since theres no pvp you cant break the structures because they belong to a player

[teal trench]

Every game, every community, even irl, has its toxic corners. That screenshot was regarding the PvP communities specifically. It wasn't naming them as the sole type to commit such acts.

[cinder vessel]

Jeez, wtf Ark

[teal trench]

That Ark rubbish sounds pretty similar to the PvM community in RuneScape.

[cinder vessel]

That's beyond your typical trolly, obnoxious behavior

[teal trench]

Yup.

[cinder vessel]

PvM? Not sure I'm familiar

[teal trench]

Player vs Monster

Bossing

The high lvl combat stuff.

[light cairn]

is that different to PvE?

[teal trench]

Erm, think WoW raids.

[light cairn]

ah

[teal trench]

Big team taking down a big boss.

[cinder vessel]

Yeah, follow now, not accustomed to it being called PvM

[teal trench]

Yeah, that's an Rs thing lol. Idk why they call it that either.

[cinder vessel]

My first thought was, Player vs. Monster but had the same second thought Skip said, lol

[teal trench]

PvE in RuneScape, is what we call "Skillers".

People who focus on non-combat stuff.

If you don't do a lot of combat, and mainly train your skills, you're a skiller.

The Skiller community has just as toxic people in it.

[sick arrow]

i guess pvm is a more focused like, sub group to pve most games dont bother using, interesting

[light cairn]

now you've got me wanting to do raids

but i don't like pairing up with randos

didn't have to talk in Tera though

[teal trench]

Well, RuneScape has a lot of dedicated clan chats, that you can join and meet people to form a proper team.

So at least there's that.

I mean, you can do stuff with randoms, but the result will be the same as any other game - lack of communication/teamwork.

RuneScape's current most difficult boss is called "Telos". To my knowledge, only three players have been able to max out its "enrage mechanic" and defeat it. The higher its enrage, the higher its combat stats are. That means it has higher defence and damage output, so you miss a lot of your hits, and take more damage. The max enrage is 4,000.

You also attain an ingame title for doing this.

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Telos,_the_Warden

[light cairn]

daaang

[teal trench]

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/The_Warden

The title the Warden is unlocked by defeating Telos with at least 500% enrage. Killing the boss at 2,000% enrage unlocks the silver version and at 4,000% (maximum) unlocks the golden version.

[light cairn]

oh wow, so the alt versions were only just added

[teal trench]

Yup. Initially, Jagex didn't expect anyone to actually hit the cap.

It took an entire year, for the first player to do so.

On 11 August 2017, the player sadden became the first player to defeat Telos at 4000% enrage.

The golden and silver versions of <player name>, the Warden were added, because of this.

Due to players proving Jagex wrong, they're working on an even more difficult boss, called "Solak".

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Solak,_the_Grove_Guardian

Sadly, RuneScape isn't immune to the 'power creep' that affects combat in most MMOs. So, they keep having to release higher levelled equipment, and higher levelled bosses with even more difficult and complex mechanics.

[light cairn]

yeah, not an easy thing to balance/figure out

[daring badge]

when u said golden and silver versions, (being the nerd i am) immediately jumped to POKEMON

i need a second monitord for discord 😦

[teal trench]

Unpopular opinion: The original Gold/Silver on the gameboy colour was better than the remakes on the DS.

[light cairn]

fire red and leaf green were pretty good tho

[teal trench]

Eh, I still liked the original Red/Blue/Yellow, but I'll admit that Fire Red/Leaf Green had a lot of new, welcome content.

Especially the Sevii Islands.

[limber harness]

FrLg were amazing.

Still think emerald is the best

[teal trench]

^

Emerald will forever be my favourite.

I tried editing an Emerald ROM before, in an attempt to remake the entire gameworld on a larger scale, and add the Johto and Sinnoh Kanto regions.

Oops

Johto and Kanto.

[cinder vessel]

I'm still surprised that series is still going to some degree

[teal trench]

Yeah, Pokémon is just one of those things that never die out. There's a few things like that.

[light cairn]

i mean, it's literally the number one grossing media franchise of all time, it's not going anywhere

[teal trench]

Yup, that's true.

I can only name a handful of things that are like that.

[cinder vessel]

franchises are gross, that's true enough

[light cairn]

?

[teal trench]

Eh, as long as they're creating things that I like, and enjoy, I don't care how scummy or whatever they are.

[light cairn]

i don't really understand what you mean by that Leon

[teal trench]

Capitalism is.... um. Well, it's not a good thing, but it's better than alternatives.

@light cairn I think they're referring to the generalisation that people in the upper corporate 'area' are corrupt, and that type stuff.

Like the CEO and Board of Directors make more money than the normal employees.

[cinder vessel]

Beyond corporate culture being awful, it's also just culturally stagnant to maintain franchises

Like there's a reason Horizon: Zero Dawn felt like a good breath of fresh air. New properties and the like are so much better than churning out Assassin's Creed/Final Fantasy #999999999

[teal trench]

Or EA and the Star Wars Battlefront fiasco.

.>

[cinder vessel]

Give or take with certain franchises, there's a certain safe boundary they have to play into

Move past those boundaries, and you get people annoyed as fuck, which is in itself frustrating as hell

Like Call of Duty tried for a bit there with its more futuristic titles, then snapped way the fuck back to WW2...Again

I'd comment more on Battlefield, but I honestly don't keep as much of an eye on it, since it just seems so safe for the most part

Like the most it tried was, what, Hardline or whatever?

[light cairn]

i've gotten away from battlefield more recently

1 just has such a lack of variety of customization and it makes me really sad, and the amount of time to get back into battle after dying felt way too long to me

[teal trench]

Battlefield is that War game on the 360 where you can play as a tank, and stuff, right?

[cinder vessel]

lol

[light cairn]

but yeah, hardline actually had some really cool gadget stuff like ziplines even if they didn't thematically fit with the rest of the gameplay

[cinder vessel]

I mean roughly speaking, yeah, Quav

[light cairn]

what's a good way to sum it up, "combined warfare" i guess?

[cinder vessel]

Maan, the last really experimental Battlefield was years ago now...

[light cairn]

just make a sequel to 2049 you DINGUSES

or even bad company 3

just something

[cinder vessel]

Er, 2142?

[light cairn]

ok yeah that's the more appropriate year

think i got it confused with bladerunner

[cinder vessel]

Only know due to having the wiki page up, lol

[teal trench]

One of my irl friends I went to highschool with, had a 360, with Battlefield and a few CoD games. It was the only time I ever played that genre.

Not a fan of it.

[light cairn]

i don't expect you to like any PvP games now 😛

[cinder vessel]

Neither am I for the most part, but I do like some of the weirder titles

[light cairn]

the originals were definitely a product of their time (as in 1942-2142)

[cinder vessel]

Black Ops/Advanced Warfare/Infinite Warfare were cool moves on CoD's part, I've to give that to'em

[teal trench]

Um, I did like Medal of Honour for the Ps1, and 007 Goldeneye on the N64.

[light cairn]

i still can't believe they're doing black ops 4

[cinder vessel]

Not that I've played any of those, mind, but just from having watched vids & read about them

[light cairn]

i mean treyarch is my favorite dev of the bunch but holy cow

actually the black ops 3 story was pretty cool

[cinder vessel]

Black Ops is so fuckin' outta its mind from what I've heard, lol

I think 2 was the really overwrought one?

[light cairn]

it's technically in the WaW universe so it's great in my book

[teal trench]

My friend was pretty obsessed with Black Ops, and he had 1 and 2. Always tried to get me to play the zombies thing.

[light cairn]

2 was weird because they tried to do a kind of branching narrative thing but not entirely

[cinder vessel]

Zombies honestly should be a spinoff at this point, but it probably wouldn't survive on its own

Yeah, if memory serves 2 is where they tried to get sorta meta but played it safe so said basically nothing with the story? lol

[light cairn]

i feel like they could develop zombies into a much more fully featured game if they had a full budget

[cinder vessel]

I can't remember much of what I heard about 3, 🤔

[teal trench]

I just know he'd camp the zombie thing for over a hundred waves, and get bored.

[light cairn]

i really can't remember much about 2 at all other than you can make a few choices that change the outcome

the new zombies is actually better because you can "beat" it

imo

[cinder vessel]

I can literally rewatch CoD vids and be like, "Oh...Wait a sec...I did watch this once...Wow this was all forgettable."

[light cairn]

3 was basically all bout cyber soldiers with enhancements and stuff which was cool to me

[cinder vessel]

I seem to recall 3 sorta reeled the narrative back in somewhat

But that's about all I can remember about it

[light cairn]

had some really memorable setpieces for me

i love when games go all "trippy" for lack of a better word

also i have to commend them for being one of the only series that still keeps split screen play a thing

[cinder vessel]

Noah Caldwell Gervais is who I've typically watched the vids of covering the CoD series. He's maybe not the best, but he offers an interesting perspective at least

[royal tendon]

I miss splitscreen co-op

I remember playing the older Halo games with cousins on the couch

We were usually messing around in Forge, or playing Infected (now Flood) with other random players

Splitscreen was then removed, though I'm not sure which installment of it was first

[rigid haven]

Forge was like the "creative mode" right? Jesus Christ

That really takes me back

Though I sat around at my friend's house playing it

[royal tendon]

Mhmm

I know the oldest cousin would create these weird structures and things

he was really into it

Me and the others? We'd play around doing random things

Fighting on Banshees, testing random guns, etc

I remember we'd try to see how much damage a Focus Rifle would do to a Scorpion

[rigid haven]

My friend and I would just spawn in vehicles and ride them around, killing each other. It wasn't quite what I wanted to do, but it was fun nonetheless

[teal trench]

@light cairn @cinder vessel Um, sorry. I had to go afk real quick. I'm back. I was typing out a question when I had to go.
What was the CoD on the 360 Arcade, where the missions started you off in boot camp/training camp and then dropping you off somewhere in a Blackhawk helicopter? Online/Multiplayer on that, was the one I recall playing the most.

I think it was CoD 4?

[rigid haven]

Hmm, I wasn't really a player of the COD games

I was more causal as a kid

[teal trench]

All I ever did was run around with a shotgun and knife people lol.

It was fun ticking people off with insta-kills.

[rigid haven]

Heh, I had Brawl for the Wii years ago, my brother and I would just screw around, not actually fighting

[light cairn]

was it the killpit or whatever?

was it indoor or outdoor?

[teal trench]

The campaign?

[light cairn]

yeah

the training section

pretty sure you're talking about cod4

[teal trench]

Uh... it was a military base type thing, and there was an indoor shooting range.

[light cairn]

yeah that was Cod4

[daring badge]

@limber harness hey i was wondering. Im getting really frustrated trying to put stairs on the roof of a house i am building... could i have access to /fly? or maybe just somebody who comes on and enables fly mode for me for a bit? I would really appreciate it

[teal trench]

@daring badge I can place them for you.

[daring badge]

they are really freaking specific to match up... but u can try

[rigid haven]

Heh, look at us, a bunch of kids reminiscing

Well, technically only I would be a kid at the point we're talking about...

[light cairn]

you're still a kid shut your face

[rigid haven]

I'm 17

Seven-TEEN

[light cairn]

legally in the US you'd be a minor

[rigid haven]

Though I'm not the youngest 😏

[light cairn]

well that certainly sounds creepy

[rigid haven]

Uh

...

🍑

[light cairn]

[sleek shadow]

Mawaru

[rigid haven]

Anger all you want, but I just diffused the situation with a peach

[sleek shadow]

Penguindrum

🍑

[light cairn]

holy crap did you just say Penguindrum? one of my favorite series?

[sleek shadow]

I just finished episode 5

It's sooooo goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

[light cairn]

if you're only that far in and like it you're gonna love the rest

[sleek shadow]

Anyway I'm going to go sleep now so I can binge tomorrow

Cya

[teal trench]

Sleep well.

[cinder vessel]

Sorry, was editing a file, I have like absolutely minimal, high level knowledge of CoD. Specifics are beyond me

[light cairn]

bang bang shooty shooty ad nauseum

[daring badge]

@light cairn could you make a !dynmap command to spurt out the dymap link?

it might be usefull

[light cairn]

nope, i got no control over the bots 😛

[daring badge]

also an !nmsmcip

[light cairn]

it's in the pins anyways

[daring badge]

ok

[cinder vessel]

Speaking of Minecraft, I'll probably jump back in once we've settled the current poll decision

[rigid haven]

Damn, the conversation earlier sent a ton of memories flooding back. I wish I remembered more of my childhood

[teal trench]

Speaking of the poll... reminder to vote: https://www.atlasdivision.net/t/minecraft-server/168/10
https://i.imgur.com/Ff3H6fx.png

[rigid haven]

Creeper explosions again?

[light cairn]

oh god it's 50/50

[limber harness]

Note on casual survival: either way we're gonna crack down on op items and similar. It's just a question of "how much"

[light cairn]

i feel like it shouldn't say "no changes" then

[rigid haven]

I would vote, but I don't intend to come back. Voting would be changing things for something that I'm not a part of

[limber harness]

E.g. serious survival is "absolutely no use of staff powers outside of staff problem resolution" vs casual survival is "stay on our current path of definition"

[lavish obsidian]

Kinda sad that you're leaving Woop

I loved searching down your little nomadic homes

I also harvested your crops last time for you

[limber harness]

(current path is "eh, you can use creative and such if you're staff as it's technically your right, but don't make the game worse for others/make measurable impacts on the survival aspect of the server as a result")

[lavish obsidian]

Plus aren't we supporting X-ray in a sense? The gm3 sign at spawn I mean

[limber harness]

We are.

And my god is that feature bugged right now, because people keep trying to find ways to abuse it.

[lavish obsidian]

Haha

[limber harness]

(which honestly saddens me, because it was meant as an easy way to explore builds, take screenshots, etc. But some people just have to exploit it and ruin it for the rest of us)

[lavish obsidian]

exactly..

I'm planning to make a tour cinematic soon

If all goes well

[cinder vessel]

😮 What are you up to now Woop?

Bouncing through Nier: Automata, think I saw from earlier?

Hrrm. Anyone know if there's a GOG site to check the records of different filename releases?

[teal trench]

Um, the only GoG related site I'm aware of (other than GoG itself) is a site used for cataloging the releases of free games on GoG.

They list the versions on those released games.

What game is it?

[cinder vessel]

It wouldn't work for this, unfortunately

I'm trying to find a listing of the different update filenames for NMS to verify what version of the game this installer is for

The file metadata suggests right before 1.24 but that is just too weird to me

[teal trench]

Size: 2.5 GB
No Man’s Sky (GOG)
Size: 2.49 GB
No Man’s Sky Update 2 (2.2.0.4) (GOG)
Size: 2.54 GB
No Mans Sky Update 3 (2.3.0.5) (GOG)
Size: 2.50 GB
No Mans Sky Update 4 (2.4.0.6) (GOG)
Size: 2.56 GB
No Mans Sky Foundation (GOG)
Size: 2.58 GB
No Mans Sky Update 4 (2.8.0.10) (GOG)
Size: 5.77 GB
No Man’s Sky (Atlas Rises) (GOG)

Does that help?

GoG released it for free in 2016, so they start it off from that time.

[cinder vessel]

Hmm, afraid not. Appreciate it tho

[daring badge]

im gunna make a ferret texture pack

https://imgur.com/a/5BC9s

[teal trench]

o.o

Unrelated: "Virtual Wearable UI Tracking Technology"
Creator: https://twitter.com/keiichiban/status/971809788450324480
Imgur post: https://imgur.com/gallery/fCHPm

Keiichi Matsuda (@keiichiban)

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Tech is advancing like crazy.

[daring badge]

holy shit

thats awesome

I WANT IT XD

thats gunna be amazingly powerfull

like really powerful

if they can get that mobile

[teal trench]

That'a a surface Pro tablet.

It's already mobile.

[daring badge]

is shocked

who made that?

[teal trench]

I linked the creator's twitter.

[daring badge]

ok

XD i really am ignorant

[cinder vessel]

Puts me in the mind of MagicLeap

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/rLTUGPq.png

[lavish obsidian]

dear god..

[teal trench]

It's written in the stars.

[limber harness]

Dare I ask why or how

[teal trench]

Purple Ferrets.

<.<

.>

[lavish obsidian]

..is that the survival world?

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/oAdbHhh.png https://i.imgur.com/krY5wJl.png

Yes.

Made it in the creative world.

Pasted it here.

[lavish obsidian]

ah so that was what you were working on

[teal trench]

Took a screenie

[lavish obsidian]

I stalked you using dynmap

[teal trench]

Then undid it.

[daring badge]

hey guys. im having trouble locating the json model files

for vanilla

[limber harness]

Note that if anyone complains about that, my only response will be this: Why do you care?! It isn't hurting anyone, it's just a joke. This isn't some travesty of a build that screams admin abuse, because it's not abuse by our current definition

[teal trench]

Yeah, I quickly undid it anyways.

Just wanted a screenie of it.

[limber harness]

Even if you didn't undo it, it's still not abuse or anything.

[lavish obsidian]

personally I would want it to stay

it's a good joke

[teal trench]

o.o

[daring badge]

yeah

im making an entire texture pack for it XD

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/S6iRdAg.png

Done

[lavish obsidian]

well done

[daring badge]

sooo.... im having trouble locating the json model files

anyone? kaz?

[teal trench]

Yes, I saw that.

[rare coral]

I don’t know how to help

So I didn’t respond

[daring badge]

maybe kaz does

[limber harness]

I have no idea about the client side.

Though iirc aren't the JSON models a Bedrock feature, not a Java one?

[teal trench]

It's Java too.

You have to make them yourself, is the thing.

\assets\minecraft\models\block

That's where they go.

@daring badge

[daring badge]

uhhh..

for entities

[teal trench]

Ah

[daring badge]

i have stuff for cows

[primal inlet]

Those aren't changable in Java, are they?

[daring badge]

yeah

its just a .json file with x, y, and z

a lot of em

[rare coral]

Yea pretty sure you can change all mob skins

[daring badge]

  "texturewidth": x,
  "textrueheight": y,
  "bones": [
    {
      "name": "body part name",
      "pivot": [ x, y, z ],
      "cubes": [
        {
          "origin": [ x, y, z ],
          "size": [ x, y, z ],
          "uv": [ x, y ]
        }
      ]
    }
  ]
}

i just need to know where that file is for cows

then i can make a ferret!!

[teal trench]

\minecraft\textures\entity\cow ?

[daring badge]

there will be two

hmmm. that will give me the skin

[primal inlet]

all the mob models are found in <resource pack/assets>/models/mobs.json

[limber harness]

Even if you add a ferret entity, you won't be able to use it

[daring badge]

no.. im using the cow

it has the same motion

[primal inlet]

oh

[daring badge]

and there are two cows

for two types of ferrets

and they are milkable

[limber harness]

You still need to define the entity type, the AI, the skin, plus then you have a lot of multiplayer annoyances.

... oh.

Okay that is a lot easier.

[daring badge]

he yeah

just WHERE IS THE FOLDER WITH ALL THE MODELS ARRGHH

[primal inlet]

There is no folder, they're all in /models/mobs.json

[limber harness]

Word of caution - you may start getting weird hitbox errors on servers, as the models aren't synchronized.

[rare coral]

[daring badge]

hmmm...

if you can get the server to have a defualt tecture pack...

[primal inlet]

I mean I assume you're reading this, since you got your code snippet off it https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Changing_Minecraft_entity_models

[daring badge]

yeah

ok i finally got it

but my pc doesn't have that file...

🤔

[teal trench]

The existence of that file is bedrock only, it seems. You'll have to create it yourself, in Java.

[daring badge]

😢

[teal trench]

Yup

[primal inlet]

hmm

[daring badge]

well.. i cant even find it

[primal inlet]

but Optifine does allow custom entity models

[daring badge]

there is no documentation anywhere

yeah but not everyone on the server has optifine

i guess the models are HARD CODED

sigh

[primal inlet]

well yeah

[daring badge]

i mean, not editable

whitch SUCKS ASS

bc i want ferrets 😦

[teal trench]

@daring badge On the topic of OptiFine custom entity tutorials: https://i.imgur.com/LBPPdVQ.png

[daring badge]

yeah

[teal trench]

https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/resource-packs/resource-pack-help/2754570-optifine-custom-entity-models

https://github.com/sp614x/optifine/tree/master/OptiFineDoc/doc
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/1272953-optifine-hd-d1-fps-boost-dynamic-lights-shaders?comment=52789

[primal inlet]

the CEM documents are pretty thoroughly self-documenting in themselves TBH

[daring badge]

Block models

their talking about block models

[primal inlet]

nope

[teal trench]

Entity models.

https://i.imgur.com/CoO2Vj8.png

[daring badge]

you've tinkered with custom block models before, you should have an easier time figuring things out.

[teal trench]

Yes, that was a reply to the thread asking for entity models.

".If you've tinkered with custom block models before, you should have an easier time figuring things out."

You left out the "If"

@daring badge

[daring badge]

yeah

[teal trench]

Clearly, they aren't talking about making block models.

[daring badge]

OHHH

ok nvm

[primal inlet]

[teal trench]

Please stop skimming, and read...

[daring badge]

im in way over my head in this stuff .... 😦

sigh OfficialNMSdiscordMinecraftServerLand maybe not get ferrets 😭

[primal inlet]

Not milkable, but you could retexture ocelots

[daring badge]

oh true

[cinder vessel]

(are we sure this isn't really becoming the Official NMSMCFerret server?)

[daring badge]

i guess i have to do that... i wanted it to be milkable tho sigh

JUST PRETEND MAGGOTS

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/20qITUw.png

[primal inlet]

I mean, we don't really have the equipment to milk ferrets anyway

[limber harness]

(I'm also not adding server side resource packs)

[daring badge]

😦

[cinder vessel]

what if you just retexture the cows to be giant ferrets

[teal trench]

@primal inlet U wot
https://i.imgur.com/spAmc2F.png
https://i.imgur.com/l3yDPxJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/vUclKqm.png
https://i.imgur.com/HNa8xt7.png

[primal inlet]

well smack my ass and call me sally

anyone here good at coding Spigot plugins?

[soft anvil]

ok sally 😏

[lavish obsidian]

I used Skript once

[primal rover]

I've done some coding for a few years

[daring badge]

huh thats cool https://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/transmobifier-v1-0-50-custom-mob-skins-custom-mobs-using-nametags/

[primal rover]

Not the best though lol

Skript is really nice for beginners or quick patch-ups though.

[daring badge]

ATOM

[limber harness]

Why do we want custom plugins?

[primal inlet]

Ferret jokes.

That's really it

[lavish obsidian]

exactly, skript has the versatility to execute simple tasks or automate them without much effort

[limber harness]

Yeah no, not doing skript

For a lot of reasons.

[lavish obsidian]

understandable

[primal rover]

Why not 🤔

[limber harness]

Besides a laundry list of performance and potential security issues, it's completely unnecessary as I can just write plugins directly.

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/F3FAf7G.png

[primal rover]

Have had Skript as a major contributor to custom content for years now and we're still at a steady 19.8 tps lol

[teal trench]

Yes, well... we currently don't have access to a dedicated cpu. We share cores with others.

So that makes a difference.

[primal rover]

Ah, okay. Gotcha.

[limber harness]

Also I just really dislike these scripting engines in general

They're a lazy solution. If you want to code, write a damn plugin.

[lavish obsidian]

I thought personal bias at first.

[primal rover]

Only benefit of Skript over ordinary plugin development is ease of access imo

[teal trench]

CraftBook's custom recipe support is sorta jimmy-riggy like Skript.

[primal rover]

Instead of shutting down the server for small code changes, you can reload the file ingame for instant results. Besides that, I would also vouch the ordinary plugin development route.

[limber harness]

Uh.

[primal inlet]

Java really isn't too difficult to learn

[limber harness]

What? You can push live code changes to Java.

[teal trench]

^

[primal rover]

?????

[light cairn]

mind blown?

[primal rover]

very

[limber harness]

My old network did that literally all the time.

[teal trench]

Many plugins have a dedicated /<name> reload command.

[lavish obsidian]

I don't recommend ingame reloads

[primal rover]

I've seen reload commands in plugins for yml-reloads

Never for code changes

[limber harness]

Yeah no it's definitely a thing. Worked very well too

[primal rover]

I'll be damned

[teal trench]

Dedicated plugin reloads, are different than the bukkit/spigot /reload command.

[primal rover]

The more you know I guess lol

[limber harness]

Only time we'd have to actually restart the host machines was to either update the reloader, or if the update contained some real abuse of Java (like reflection)

Though those were actually kinda common, so we just did something I call a transparent rolling restart.

[teal trench]

Ohh, I see now. You mean a live hotfix for the .jar itself; not a config reload. That's actually awesome.

[primal rover]

^^

[limber harness]

That is, between matches, send users to a different server, remove the server from the pool, restart it, add it back.

Fully transparent to the user.

[lavish obsidian]

👀

[primal rover]

So it wasn't technically a "live" code update?

[limber harness]

We did those too

We could do either.

[primal rover]

Shit

[daring badge]

wow

nice

ima give up on the ferret pack 😦

[teal trench]

I can attest to Java being editable and reloaded live. RuneScape's game engine is 100% java, and they have done many hotfixes without a reboot.

[limber harness]

But if changes touched the users/db structure/anything actually in use, things could get weird.

[lavish obsidian]

ah.

Well nothing is perfect

[limber harness]

So to be on the safe side we usually did a transparent rolling. A sudden disconnect is bad UX.

[primal rover]

Did you disable and re-enable the plugin, Kaz? Or was it a custom method of updating the code to the server and allowing it to recognize those changes?

[limber harness]

Custom method. We effectively livepatched the code.

[primal rover]

Hats off to you then

that's cool as hell

[limber harness]

One of our devs called it "swapping a book when nobody is looking"

[light cairn]

neat!

[limber harness]

The tldr to how it worked was some very creative abuse of debuggers.

Other than that... partly trade secret, partly some third party software, partly some magic I can't really explain in Discord. (Our own internal docs for this was 17 pages long)

[primal rover]

gross

[lavish obsidian]

👁

[daring badge]

im all alone guys

[primal inlet]

on the server?

[daring badge]

yeah

[light cairn]

maybe it could help all of the downtime discord has been having lately

[primal inlet]

lemme finish this mission

[daring badge]

and bord

Skip waht?

[limber harness]

And quav, RuneScape is probably doing rolling restarts on their servers.

[daring badge]

o

i get it now

FUCK

i need to stop skimming

[limber harness]

So they do reboot but it's just transparent to the end user.

[light cairn]

is a rolling reboot like only restarting certain aspects at a time instead of everything at once?

[limber harness]

Tldr infrastructure is really fun.

[daring badge]

kaz ur smart

[teal trench]

o.o

[limber harness]

And if you get dev and ops working on the same page, your servers will sing

[lavish obsidian]

I sincerly apologize for offending backend development

[light cairn]

answer me

[daring badge]

XD

[limber harness]

See: project rain. It was our load balancer for a while (and was reponsible for a lot). Supported up to (2^63)-1 concurrent users in theory.

[light cairn]

[daring badge]

yep

[primal inlet]

k, now can you go work at Rare

pretty please

[lavish obsidian]

That was my initial thoughts

[limber harness]

Well I am still applying to discord backend

[teal trench]

Kaz, does that image accurately depict Backend vs Frontend development?

[daring badge]

im more into music ...

[lavish obsidian]

I thought so

[limber harness]

Er... you can't really depict that.

[daring badge]

that whatever is happening here

[limber harness]

Backend and frontend are two sides of the same program.

[daring badge]

TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN

wait

[teal trench]

The horrors and complexity of backend, vs the simple, clean interfaces of frontend.

[daring badge]

with a one way hole

[limber harness]

Er... it can be either way.

[cinder vessel]

lol quav haven't you asked that before?

[daring badge]

XD

[teal trench]

I think so, but I never got a reply.

[limber harness]

I've seen absolutely beautiful backends but the frontends are an absolute mess.

[daring badge]

like minecraft

[primal inlet]

wot

[limber harness]

Ive seen atrocious backends with some of the best frontends ever.

[lavish obsidian]

the unreadable complexity and single-usage only selfish code.

usually that's my issue

[daring badge]

wait nvm

[primal inlet]

IIRC minecraft is mediocre on both ends, lol

[daring badge]

yeah

.... i like music

[cinder vessel]

every setup is heavily dependent on the organization and coordination of those developing things, lol

[limber harness]

generally though (in my experience) backend code is cleaner because it's focused for performance, and written by developers for developers. The frontend tends to be messes of kludge and spaghetti code to make it look "pretty" or to provide arbitrary/stupid design requirements given to them by the product team (as sold by the sales team)

[daring badge]

the nerdiest thing ive done, is write a python scrpt to scrape articles of a newspaper and orginize it in a mongoDB

the 65daysofstatic album ended... RESTARTING

FROM THE TOP

[teal trench]

Well, I guess the image depicts RuneScape well enough. The backend is engine, whereas the frontend is the content developers. The devs are always complaining about how difficult and annoying digging through the engine code is. Sometimes they specifically deny suggestions, with "Nope, that would require engine work." and leave it at that. It's a horrible, spaghetti filled atrocity.

[lavish obsidian]

I've seen plenty of selfish code meant only to be used for developers themselves than other devs that might come along. Usually.

[daring badge]

XD

im gunna write an Alexa skill that will tell me if school is canceled on any given day

that shouldnt be too hard

[teal trench]

@limber harness, that explanation you gave is the exact opposite of RuneScape development.

[daring badge]

just grab a specific banner from the school site

[limber harness]

It really is all over the place.

What it is in one company does not mean its like that for the entire tech world

the best answer actually is "it all sucks"

[lavish obsidian]

Meh, although Kaz is technically experienced in backend development doesn't mean that he's not strictly unbiased

😏

[daring badge]

XD

[limber harness]

very relevant: https://blog.toggl.com/lightbulb-cartoon-developers/

[lavish obsidian]

haha

[daring badge]

XDXDXD

this is my only response now ... ^^

ever

[teal trench]

Off topic: TIL the subway restaurant up the street from me is open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

[knotty osprey]

🤔

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/vslhOke.png

[knotty osprey]

who goes to a subway at midnight even

[teal trench]

Idk lol

[limber harness]

programmers

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/3vnrYDf.png

[limber harness]

source: i have. multiple times.

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/3NdzXjQ.png

This is awesome.

I've had a craving for subway at early morning hours before, but always assumed they were closed.

[limber harness]

subway cravings... first i've ever heard of those tbh

[teal trench]

I'm weird.

Herb and cheese bread, Spicy italian, add tuna, add swiss and provolone, add lots and lots of olives, 4 lines of mayo, 1 line of mustard.

That's what I get, every time.

@limber harness lol

I know a few people who would do this.

Mod Dolan, being one.

Mod Easty is the main engine dev.

He's done stuff like that, a lot.

[limber harness]

yep. that's common

blame frontend is the answer to everything

[primal inlet]

what

[daring badge]

o god

god pls help

[lavish obsidian]

Ferret.

It says FERRET.

[daring badge]

pls

send help

cool huh

kk cant live with 3 fps

[limber harness]

The only correct formatting settings

[daring badge]

sry guys about ferrets

[teal trench]

@limber harness These are mine: https://i.imgur.com/ioZOSX8.png

[limber harness]

utc, nice

[teal trench]

Yup

https://i.imgur.com/OcKI00f.png

I use UTC for the purpose of time stamps.

[daring badge]

alright well, gaming is fun, but producing is better 😃

ima head off of MC and open up ABLETON YESS

anyone here produce?

[teal trench]

@limber harness, idk if you're interested in this, but I dug up one of the NXT dev blogs, from when theyt were still creating the C++ client: http://services.runescape.com/m=news/dev-blog--nxt---gielinor-in-a-new-light

[cinder vessel]

Ableton wat

[teal trench]

Oh, and they talk about Vulkan and DX12 here: http://services.runescape.com/m=news/dev-blog--nxt---future-updates

[daring badge]

Ableton..

its the best

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ableton_Live

[teal trench]

._.

Well, to each their own.

[cinder vessel]

Oooh. I think I have heard of that now that I see the description

[daring badge]

XD

im working on a cover for a NMS song

its a piano that really precessed

its cool

add some sub base and MM

AAAAAnywy

[knotty osprey]

👀 quav did you make the giant purple “ferret” in the sky

[daring badge]

XD

[teal trench]

<.<

.>

[knotty osprey]

quaaaaaaaaaav

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/6CxGeHf.png

[knotty osprey]

ugh, let’s hope my blast test base thingamajig is safe from the ferrets for now

[teal trench]

I did try to delete the giant ferret text, but whale and kaz stopped me.

.>

So blame them.

<.<

[limber harness]

i didnt stop you

i just said i dont consider it abuse

[cinder vessel]

kaz, be real here, you cut off their hands

[knotty osprey]

wat

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/QCDrcEj.png

Yeah, I meant you said stuff that made me realise I didn't have to get rid of it lol.

I assumed it would have to be removed.

[knotty osprey]

I don’t consider it abuse or anything either lol

[teal trench]

Yay

[knotty osprey]

it’s just a joke that isn’t hurting anyone

[daring badge]

True

Except it’s hard to take aerial photos

[teal trench]

<.<

[knotty osprey]

the only issue I could imagine people can have with it is the shadow it casts on the ground 🤔

[daring badge]

Or taking aerial photos

[teal trench]

I can //copy it, then remove it and repaste it in creative spawn.

[daring badge]

Nah

Just don’t take aerial photos

I’m still gunna look for a ferret pack

[knotty osprey]

hm, I do imagine taking photos from above would be a bit obstructed.
still, I would only see that as a minor inconvenience lol

[daring badge]

Bc it’s cool

Daily Ryan

[primal inlet]

aaaa

My lighthouse is coming along

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/6RVKPp5.png

Repasted into creative, and moved out of survival.

[rain flicker]

Phew

Glad I missed that

[winter yew]

I'm in the daily ryan

I cool

[rain flicker]

The what

[knotty osprey]

I’m probably going to install a texture pack and some shaders when I’m back home from school to see if I can make the game look way better.
let’s just hope my pc can handle it

[rain flicker]

Texture packs are easy to handle

Shaders, those are the real killers

[teal trench]

^

[knotty osprey]

Yeah I guessed that was the case

[teal trench]

So, you have a GTX 760.

What processor?

The 760 can easily run SEUS in medium

Maybe some high stuff

[knotty osprey]

i5 something

[teal trench]

Well, the model is what matters.

The numbers after i5

[knotty osprey]

I forgot the actual designation and GHz lol

[teal trench]

Okay, could you check when you have time?

[knotty osprey]

it’s a good one from what I recall tho

yeah, once I’m back home from school I can do that

[teal trench]

A gpu can only perform as well as a cpu lets it; if the cpu causes a bottleneck, then performance will be less than expected.

I know that an i7-7700k causes a small bottleneck with a GTX 1080 Ti.

I hit that in games a lot.

If I recall... it's a 9% bottleneck?

Found it.

8%

https://i.imgur.com/E3tL6r7.png

[knotty osprey]

hm, I know I can run a texture and shaders modpack for kerbal space program at least.
It had 3 variants, 2K, 4K, and 8K. I can run the 4K alongside some other mods at 60 FPS, so there is that I guess

[winter yew]

That ain't 9%

[teal trench]

I just said 8%.

[winter yew]

[teal trench]

@winter yew https://i.imgur.com/rKzQ0dF.png

[knotty osprey]

don’t mind cycka, he’s a bit of an edgy idiot.

[winter yew]

no u

Xoxo

[knotty osprey]

nee jij

[winter yew]

Love you babe

Nee jij

[knotty osprey]

dutch argument incoming

[winter yew]

jij stinkt naar vis. Owwww

[teal trench]

@knotty osprey, the issue with Minecraft shaders, is horrible optimisation, and spaghetti.

[knotty osprey]

hm

[teal trench]

It eats up my 1080 Ti like candy.

[knotty osprey]

oof

[winter yew]

I like spaghetti

[teal trench]

This is what I mean: https://i.imgur.com/w7ZOUcR.png

[winter yew]

Oof

[teal trench]

Sub-40fps and it won't even use my hardware to its full potential.

[winter yew]

Ultra or Normal?

Or low

[teal trench]

Default settings on SEUS Renewed v1, and maxed out settings in Minecraft.

Well, 16 render.

[winter yew]

I use seus low... 15 fps

With like 5 chunks render distance

[teal trench]

And now its at 60fps...

https://i.imgur.com/3974QMk.png

As I move around - even just a little - it dips below 40.

If I stand still, it's at 60.

Anyways, here's a nice screenie: https://i.imgur.com/AdndeMt.png

Back to no shaders.

Below 60fps is unplayable for me.

I wish it would stay at 60.

[cinder vessel]

lol, I'm guessing that's horrible shader optimization on top of horrible Java optimization

[lavish obsidian]

Seus's going under a recode, if I'm correct?

[teal trench]

Yup - to both of you.

I'm using the first released version of the WIP recode of SEUS.

[rain flicker]

Why can't you see trough my glass quav

[teal trench]

Shaders.

Well, SEUS, specifically.

[rain flicker]

It's supposed to be like an area where you can watch over the city

But you can't use that now

[teal trench]

Yeah, SEUS is weird with glass.

Especially coloured glass.

It makes it act like stained glass windows, in a church.

Not see-through.

[rain flicker]

Isn't that an option in the settings?

[lavish obsidian]

It's half transparent?

Correct me if I'm wrong?

[teal trench]

Not an option in the settings, no. And yes, you're correct Whale.

@rain flicker https://i.imgur.com/UjRRsny.png

[rain flicker]

Hmm

Not the best thing to look trough

[teal trench]

https://i.imgur.com/u2HN5L0.png

[rain flicker]

Almost like night vision

[teal trench]

Oops, I still had my FOV on.

Here: https://i.imgur.com/yuEodRE.png

I play on 'quake pro'.

[lavish obsidian]

Quake Pro?!

I thought PVPers only used that

[teal trench]

Makes small areas look larger.

<.<

.>

I don't like how claustrophobic default FOV is.

[winter yew]

^^

[rain flicker]

Hmm. Higher fovs give me a headache tho

[lavish obsidian]

^

[winter yew]

<

[rain flicker]

v

[knotty osprey]

pineapple pizza tastes good

^^vv<><>BA start

[lavish obsidian]

Konami code

[rain flicker]

Rando I pointed down. You could have said anything you wanted and I agreed with it

How could you let that chance slide by

[knotty osprey]

editing message...

there

[lavish obsidian]

[rain flicker]

Rando

We are dutch

Ofcourse we like those kinds of pizza

[knotty osprey]

yes

[rain flicker]

I would have done ^ as well

[knotty osprey]

pizza in general is good

[rain flicker]

If I had the chance

[knotty osprey]

heh

i dont know why pineapple pizza is such an argument on the internet tbh

its a matter of opinion

[teal trench]

I just don't like pineapple at all - on anything. By itself it's gross, too.

[knotty osprey]

again, opinion

[teal trench]

Yup.

Pineapple apparently gives you "dark powers".

<.<

[knotty osprey]

lmao

[royal tendon]

Egg is egg xD

[knotty osprey]

lmao yeah

[rigid haven]

It's true!

[blazing torrent]

eggisegg

[knotty osprey]

newmeme

[rigid haven]

Eggcellent

[lavish obsidian]

Eggtastic

[teal trench]

What have I done. o_o
I was scrolling through an imgur 'dump', and saw that image as Random was talking about Pineapple. So I shared it.

[knotty osprey]

egg

you have released the egg

[teal trench]

This was the dump: https://imgur.com/gallery/sLHtP

It's about... uh

25-30 images in.

[knotty osprey]

egg is egg
egg is egg
egg is egg

egg

[rain flicker]

Milk

The

Ferret

owo

[knotty osprey]

uwu

[rain flicker]

Btw the first book I read was from my furnace. I thought that was why page 25 was burned

[cinder vessel]

ferret...
...
...
...
...
...cheese

[rain flicker]

Leon read the Ferret milking book

You'll find out

[teal trench]

@cinder vessel https://pastebin.com/PNNKrsnD

[rain flicker]

I'm sure there are a few thousands still scattered across the map

[knotty osprey]

ye

[rain flicker]

If you do manage to find some, Leon, here is a tutorial of how to act

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0iA0W-ATBA

[knotty osprey]

why is the thumbnail of that vid suddenly broken 🤔

[teal trench]

Not broken for me.

@knotty osprey

[knotty osprey]

it used to just show the text at the start

but now it does that

[rain flicker]

Still is the text for me

[teal trench]

LIkewise.

It's a thing on your end.

[cinder vessel]

And apparently mine too, lol

[knotty osprey]

🤔

[cinder vessel]

Vid still plays fine tho so nbd

[rain flicker]

Well it was the original thumbnail before I changed it to that

So

[teal trench]

Oh, speaking of videos... I recorded one 2 hours ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbmX9csZ7Lk

Just, randomly running around with SEUS Renewed v1.

No real point.

[knotty osprey]

im bored so imma watch that

[rain flicker]

Why don't you play fullscreen

[teal trench]

Full screen is gross.

(To me.)

I like a resizable window.

[cinder vessel]

yoo that's what's up

[uncut bramble]

@teal trench thanks for sharing your video. Let me have a look around since I don't have the java edition! Now I want it more lol

[teal trench]

Yup, you're welcome. Hopefully you get a copy. =)

[tough heron]

ooh

what does my house look like with shaders 😮

[teal trench]

@tough heron I don't recall which house is yours, but it should be in the video if it was at spawn.

[tough heron]

the hobbit hole

i'll take a look at the video then

I didn't realise you were doing a full tour!

[teal trench]

Uh

I didn't.

https://i.imgur.com/nUeToxK.png

[tough heron]

oh haha

oh well

[teal trench]

Holy crap.

87GB?!

https://i.imgur.com/mxHWUkC.png

There's no way that's just the game.

Skyrim wasn't that big.

And this is a bloody MMO, not a single player game.

[cinder vessel]

lol

[teal trench]

What on earth is taking up 87GB in ESO?

[strong hazel]

Assets probably

[cinder vessel]

I mean...It's supposed to feature multiple parts of Tamriel, I believe?

Not just a single province or whatever

[teal trench]

It's still an MMO, and from when I last played the closed betas in 2013/2014, the graphics were disgusting.

Jpeggy and blobular.

It was like 9GB, then.

[cinder vessel]

🤷 I guess they've improved & added a ton?

[teal trench]

o_o

[cinder vessel]

From what I've heard of others talking about it, they've been continuing to develop it a lot

[teal trench]

I only have a 256GB SSD, and I kinda don't want this taking up like 50% of the entire space left.

87GB for an MMO is still ridiculous.

[agile raven]

Fucking 87...

What the fuck

[teal trench]

^ Thank you.

[agile raven]

That's not normal for an MMO

[cinder vessel]

Hmm, yeah, guess not, GW2 was just 20GB back when I last played it

But that's without expansions or anything, so dunno how much space those took

[teal trench]

Well, Skyrim was ~15GB.

That was the remastered one.

To my knowledge, the Skyrim Remastered graphics are far superior to ESO.

[agile raven]

https://i.imgur.com/ceDsSE6.jpg

@tough heron

[cinder vessel]

Skyrim Remastered shoulda been bug fixes, lol

[tough heron]

😮

[agile raven]

https://i.imgur.com/mSdl66P.jpg

[tough heron]

😮 😮 😮

its gorgeous

my queenslander hobbit hole

[lavish obsidian]

SEUS renewed?

[teal trench]

@cinder vessel And ESO - the base game client - is just one region. Not all of them. Morrowind, and other 'expansions' are entirely separate.

[agile raven]

I have Textures and Shaders so it looks a little different

https://i.imgur.com/gNmheK8.jpg

This looks cool. What is it?

https://i.imgur.com/girCCTG.jpg

[cinder vessel]

Ah, and that was only for the client Quav?

Yeah, that's wtf

[teal trench]

For the base game.

Not the seperate areas.

[lavish obsidian]

I think it's a lighthouse?

[agile raven]

Isn't the Base ESO just Cyrodil and some of Southern Skyrim?

And talking about TES makes me look forward to TESVI again

[tough heron]

thats deluxers wip lighthouse

[agile raven]

it's going to be genre shaking, again

probably

[tough heron]

i hope so

FO4 was alright but nothing mind boggling