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teal trench
limber harness
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Windows troubleshooting:

  1. Reboot
  2. Reinstall
shy badger
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  1. Don't opt into windows insider
teal trench
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Yeah, it was just being stupid because I was trying to access shadowplay as it was updating lol.

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That's it.

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Nothing but full screen capture.

shy badger
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lol.. well i fixed some recording problems, i only clip 1 min rocket league videos... but streaming is fine too if i wanted to do it.. by completely shutting down xbox dvr in regedit haha

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really odd

cinder vessel
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@light cairn you ever play Bound?

light cairn
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i have not, but i think i got it through ps+?

teal trench
cinder vessel
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Haha, no worries

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Also I know not to mention anything Souls/Bloodborne related to Skip when it comes to choosing games, as I'm pretty sure Skip will opt for Souls/Bloodborne content

light cairn
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i highly recommend the old hunters

primal inlet
teal trench
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Hahaa

cinder vessel
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The new bosses are a good challenge and not cheap (cheap in Souls/Bloodborne terms, that is)?

winter yew
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The old hunters is amazing

light cairn
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i'd go so far to say it's probably one of the best parts of the entire game

cinder vessel
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well fuck

teal trench
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I wish my biases were as clear-cut as that. I tend to make things annoyingly (and stupidly) overly complicated.

primal rover
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Anyone get Sea of Thieves?

winter yew
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I'd Cree with skip honestly

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If agree *

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I'd **

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God

cinder vessel
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Guess it's probably Statik & Old Hunters then...Which is still a good as hell combo I think

teal trench
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And that's why you don't use a phone to chat. <.<

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.>

winter yew
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Lol

light cairn
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especially if you like expanding your build roster old hunters adds some really cool weapons

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WHIRLYGIG SAW BAYBEEEEEEEE

winter yew
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Yas

cinder vessel
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Although I'll probably dig about some more for reviews on Statik & Bound, as I dig the style of both of them

teal trench
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@primal rover, we were discussing Sea of Thieves, earlier. So far, I think @shy badger is the only one who said they played it.

cinder vessel
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I'm kind of fixed on Old Hunters + something or Statik + something, but I should certainly review reviews of each, lol

primal rover
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Cool, thanks for the recap ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

light cairn
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i'd be lying if i said i realized that sea of thieves released

winter yew
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Bloodborne is one of my favorite games of all time so I'm bias but you'll love it

primal rover
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I've still got an hour and a quarter until it really releases for me

cinder vessel
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Yeah, I dug the core content so I'm sure I'd probably dig it

light cairn
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Bloodborne is probably my favorite of all the souls games

winter yew
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Same here

teal trench
winter yew
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Maybe tired with ds1

cinder vessel
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If I had more spare cash it wouldn't be such a decision, lol

light cairn
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i'm looking forward to portable souls so much โค

cinder vessel
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But I'm keeping myself capped at $20

light cairn
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you can get a lot of play out of the old hunters

winter yew
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Me too skip. Oh yeah I did add you on switch

light cairn
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yes indeedy

winter yew
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I just got Kirby today

cinder vessel
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I'm frequently juggling whether I want a lot of play from something or just a really wild experience

winter yew
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Good so far.

light cairn
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nice!

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yeah old hunters has both of those covered ๐Ÿ˜›

cinder vessel
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Lot of times short games pull off the latter much better than the former, but it's definitely not a mutually exclusive thing

primal rover
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The Microsoft Store shows you the minimum and recommended requirements for games, and also compares your PC to the requirements to show if you meet them. Cool little addition so you don't have to use systemrequirementslab all the time lol

teal trench
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@cinder vessel

insert free GoG game archive sites
The games that GoG releases for free still exist, and still work - despite not still being hosted on the GoG site. Just gotta find a copy. Since it was legitimately released for free from GoG, it's not pirating. <.<

limber harness
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Er...

cinder vessel
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wat, lol

light cairn
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wrong ping?

cinder vessel
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I, uh, dig the advice but cool stuff?

teal trench
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It was about that.

light cairn
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ah

cinder vessel
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Was thinking that was it, I'm just talking in terms of buying from the PSN sale atm

teal trench
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Ohh, okay.

cinder vessel
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Gotta budget ya hobbies & all

teal trench
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A copy of GoG's free 2016 release of NMS was how I got the game at first, but I later purchased it for $60 on Steam.

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Maybe should have waited for a sale lol.

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It's whatever, though.

shy badger
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@primal rover Hey buddy.. if you're playing SoT then add me! Micklov1n is the GT

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hopefully this will curb my bordering on insanity addiction to rocket league

teal trench
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o_o

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I keep seeing posts about that game, and it's always spammed all over Imgur's public gallery.

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Never got around to trying it.

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(Rocket league.)

shy badger
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its hard to discribe now that ive played for like 3 years and have 777487987984 hours in it

teal trench
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Football, but with mini cars.

sleek shadow
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I'm pretty sure that equates to more than three years

teal trench
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Or soccer if you're american.

shy badger
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but its addicting because it has the best skill progression ive expereinced

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like you first get it and go this is easy .. stupid rocket cars with a big ball

primal rover
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Added, @shy badger. One hour left for me ๐Ÿ™„

sleek shadow
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That's

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That's like hundreds of years

shy badger
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then you get a little better and see people do things you didn't know were possible...... then it keeps going, when you practice and pull that shit off in a game it feels so damn guuuud

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me to Iron

sleek shadow
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Three years equates to 26280

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Hours

shy badger
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so i was off by a little

sleek shadow
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No

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You were off by centuries

shy badger
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i mean

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it depends on how you view centuries

sleek shadow
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I not to mention you wouldn't play that game for three years straight due to work/school sleeping and eating

teal trench
sleek shadow
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So divide that number by like 10

teal trench
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I started in 2004.

sleek shadow
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Or even more

shy badger
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mother of god @teal trench

sleek shadow
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Still a startlingly large number

shy badger
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YOU KNOW WHAT

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IT WAS THAT LONG

teal trench
shy badger
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in my heart of hearts

teal trench
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So, I have 35k hours.

shy badger
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i know it was

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yeah you got me beat

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i was an everquest guy

sleek shadow
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What

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WHAT

shy badger
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i never even played runscape

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google is a shill organization its fake news

sleek shadow
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What

shy badger
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lmao

sleek shadow
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Anyway

teal trench
sleek shadow
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That counter probably isn't counting time played

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It might be years you've owned the game

teal trench
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Me?

shy badger
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how much of that play time was idle you think flan?

teal trench
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I started playing it in 2004, lol. I promise you it's accurate.

shy badger
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gotta keep that into account

sleek shadow
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I would assume most of it is idle

teal trench
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Nope.

sleek shadow
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No one

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No one has that much time on their hands

teal trench
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I played an average of 7 hours a day.

shy badger
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hey man priorities

teal trench
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Yes, every Rs player on the /r/RuneScape subreddit has that much time.

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Most play 10+ hours

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I'm a nobody.

shy badger
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if you like what your doing and you got the time it happens

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lol shut up. hes just a meany mean face

sleek shadow
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I'm not being mean

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I'm trying to stay logical

teal trench
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Well, it's highly illogical given the facts.

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Lol

shy badger
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wheres the logic in precieving how others spend their time?

sleek shadow
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I was using averages

teal trench
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I rarely run into a player who doesn't spend over 10 hours a day online.

sleek shadow
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I can't guess accurately

teal trench
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My daily playtime of 7 hours gets laughed at.

shy badger
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yeah runescape is also more accessible at say a boring job

sleek shadow
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Jeez you get ticked off easily tone it down

primal inlet
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...no u

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for real

shy badger
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what?

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me?

sleek shadow
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Understandable dog โค

primal inlet
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Dalek lol

shy badger
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noo

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i mean the ticked off comment

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lol

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if i was ticked off it'd be pretty evident

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I'm just protectin mah boi here

teal trench
sleek shadow
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Understandable

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I mean I'm just assuming everyone just gets as busy as I do

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Balancing highschool with a job plus extracurriculars

teal trench
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Oh.

shy badger
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highschool?!

sleek shadow
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I haven't been able to play NMS for weeka

shy badger
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sonny boy

primal inlet
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completely unrelated, but Mick, is there more to the Sea of Thieves download than the ~20GB I'm seeing in MS store?

shy badger
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im 31.. believe me it gets worse

sleek shadow
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Not to mention

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It's going to get worse

teal trench
sleek shadow
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Huh

teal trench
sleek shadow
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I think next year

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Once I start my first year at uni

primal rover
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Hey Mick, were you able to predownload SOT?

sleek shadow
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I might give up gaming for a while

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Still keep in touch though

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But yeah

shy badger
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thing is though man, you'll start noticing that people are in different situations in life. so someone you think has no life cause they play that many hours might be on disability or have something else going on. People have that whole different life thing going on

sleek shadow
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College is like a new chapter

shy badger
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i havent yet iron

teal trench
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raises hand I'm living off of disability payment lol.

shy badger
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ima check

sleek shadow
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I didn't say someone didn't have a life for playing games for a long times

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I just assumed that people just have lots of stuff they need to do

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I remember freshmen year all I did was play PC because my classes were extremely rudimentary

teal trench
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I'll be turning 27, this April.

shy badger
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they do. of course.. shits hectic, people get it done there way

teal trench
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^

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I have a lot that goes on in a day.

sleek shadow
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Sometimes I feel like I have too much

shy badger
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yeah i have 1000000 things to do lately

sleek shadow
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I already wake up an hour earlier to take an extra class at 7 am which is the name of my existence

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So no breakfast for me

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Sometimes I just want to slow the hell down

shy badger
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but i am going in for a big surgery soon so i have some time too kill. I find free time, if i didn't my wife would slap me lol

sleek shadow
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I hope it isn't something bad

shy badger
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you're in highschool ? Dude live it up

teal trench
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On a different note... @blazing torrent, when you see this, please don't forget to close doors to people's homes, when you go exploring. You left mine open, and a creeper wandered in. I had to repair my floor. https://i.imgur.com/YpRyUbL.png

shy badger
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i loved high school so much

sleek shadow
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I hate highschool

tough heron
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highschool was fun

shy badger
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well my school was a shit show

tough heron
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but uni is soo much better

sleek shadow
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I want college now

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Yee

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I'm ticking down the days

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Spending my time in these dreary halls

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Wasting then my summer

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Begging for agust to come

shy badger
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you know where your going?

sleek shadow
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August*

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UC Santa Cruz is for my 4 year bachelor's

shy badger
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good stuff little buddy!

sleek shadow
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Then I hope to transfer to Caltech for more advanced studies

shy badger
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santa cruz is beautiful

sleek shadow
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That's a hope though

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It really is

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The only problem is

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I love out of state

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And they don't give any financial aid to out of state

teal trench
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<.<

shy badger
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haha i pulled us way off topic

teal trench
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I did the same thing with the computer stuff.

sleek shadow
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This conversation took so many turns lol

shy badger
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i got a new keyboard. so really im rambling cause i like the sound hahahah

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ill be back though

sleek shadow
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Lol

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Speaking of which though

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It's getting late

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And I don't want to wake up tommorow feeling like hell

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I'm going to catch some sleep

teal trench
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Sleep well.

sleek shadow
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Thanks

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Good night all

cinder vessel
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@teal trench, huh, you don't do the standard pressure plate auto-open/shut doors in your structures?

teal trench
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Nope. I'm a weirdo who doesn't use those on doors.

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I like closing them manually.

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If I use pressure plates, then it's going to be a piston door.

cinder vessel
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Gotcha, I thought maybe it was an aesthetics thing

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Btw, anyone here get into Warframe?

rare coral
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ps4 warframe yea

teal trench
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Lol, Warframe... I had an aussie friend, years ago, who loved that game. He would always try to get me to play it. It was that, and PoE. I finally caved in, and tried PoE, but ended up not liking it.

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I've still yet to try Warframe.

rare coral
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its fun

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but quite grindy

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its not for everyone

cinder vessel
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I've tried Warframe but haven't kept up with it, so every time I pop in I'm going, "Wait, what is any of this"

teal trench
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PoE, being 'path of exile'. Different game, unrelated to Warframe.

cinder vessel
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I was just watching the first part of the Noclip documentary on how Warframe came about, hence the thinking about it

teal trench
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I know Lloyd (my friend) said that I could use a sword and be a "melee" character, despite it being a Sci-Fi game. That was one of the main things that made me consider playing it. Normally, I don't like Sci-Fi games (NMS is one of the handful of exceptions, along with Starcraft.), and I can't stand shooters. But... hack and slash is another thing. I quite like those kinda games.

cinder vessel
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I'm thinking I might try to get back into a bit, maybe, but always feels weird playing free games when I still have other paid games to finish

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Oh yeah, that's one of the interesting aspects of it, it's basically "space ninjas"

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So you can pick up some melee gear and do all sorts of crazy acrobatic style moves to take down enemies

teal trench
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o_o

cinder vessel
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Well, maybe not super crazy or anything, but still, ya can jump about/wallrun/etc.

rare coral
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yea

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melee weapons are so fun

teal trench
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Is it anything like BDO? The combat in BDO feels ... "retro". I absolutely adore it. It feels like I'm playing an old SNES arcade style combat game, and having to use different combos. It's not just button mashing abilities, like so many other generic MMOs these days.

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Black desert online.

rare coral
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more like spam circle as your running down a hallway and kill everything

teal trench
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o_o

rare coral
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circle cause ps4

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yea theres certain weapons you can run while using

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its great

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and stance mods to do a helicopter move

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now I wanna start playing it again

teal trench
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Um

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Okay, I have a question... can I play it like I would play Skyrim? Just do my own thing, killing stuff, exploring, and ignore storyline?

rare coral
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there really isnt too much story in the game

teal trench
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Okay, so... is it open world? Or what exactly?

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I've honestly never really... looked into it.

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Kinda tried to avoid it.

primal inlet
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Oh, Warframe?

teal trench
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Yup

primal inlet
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It's not typical MMO combat at all

rare coral
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it has missions style of gameplay

teal trench
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You get assigned a task and sent to a level?

rare coral
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more like you pick what you wanna do sort of thing

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its very hard to explain

teal trench
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Um. Have you ever played the old 007 console games? Goldeneye on N64, or Tomorrow never dies on Ps1?

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Those kinda levels.

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It's a pre-created map, made specifically for that mission.

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Is that what it's like?

primal inlet
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If I remember correctly, maps are procedurally generated out of many set pieces (but I could be wrong)

cinder vessel
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No, that's right

primal inlet
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Basically, you choose a tileset and a mission type

cinder vessel
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You select a mission and go off to the proc-gen level, basically

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Although they've since added some more open areas

primal inlet
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It's not framed that way, but that's what it is

rare coral
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stuff like defending points or killing enemies

teal trench
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Okay, so in a sense it's like those old games, but the "level" is generated as you play?

primal inlet
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Yeah

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You still go in, do a task, extract

cinder vessel
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Er, well you load into the generated level

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Depending on how ya meant that

teal trench
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That's likely what it was that was keeping me away from it, then. I feel like Lloyd explained this to me before, and I kinda recoiled when I realised it wasn't open world, or whatever.

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I knew I was avoiding it.

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Just didn't know why.

rare coral
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theres like one "open world" type area

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that was recently added

teal trench
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Yeah, I kinda prefer stuff like NMS, Minecraft, and Skyrim. The one thing they all share, is a completely open-ended gameworld.

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Thank you for taking a moment to explain it to me.

rare coral
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no problem

cinder vessel
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Skyrim frustrates me, but for the same reason all handcrafted open worlds do

teal trench
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Yup. Handcrafted stull will always be limited. That bothers me a bit, but I still like it.

cinder vessel
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Which is largely that they don't take advantage of it with interesting systems to better stave off the exhaustive nature of it

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Worse still is that they clearly recognized that, and talked up radiant junk and all that, but frankly never really did much if anything with that concept

rare coral
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only open world game I've really liked is HZD

cinder vessel
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no NMS? lol ๐Ÿ˜›

rare coral
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prob second

teal trench
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googles 'HZD'
Huh, that's why I've never heard of it. It's Ps4 only.

rare coral
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HZD first

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yea sadly

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but its an amazing game

cinder vessel
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Horizon: Zero Dawn is crazy

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The mechafauna are brilliant

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Easily my favorite aspect of the game

rare coral
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I love the story

cinder vessel
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it feels sooo slooow

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Even as I've tried to focus through it

rare coral
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the story?

cinder vessel
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Yeah

rare coral
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I dunno it feels fine to me

cinder vessel
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To be fair I'm still around the start-ish of it all but bleh

rare coral
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start-ish where exactly?

cinder vessel
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I mean I also just really don't care all that much about figuring out the enemy group, since I'm more into the mechafauna, lol

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So like shortly after ya go & raid the ruined stadium

rare coral
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oh your actually quite far in

cinder vessel
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waitwat

rare coral
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relatively

cinder vessel
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This is like after your region is attacked and you're trying to trace down the attackers

rare coral
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I get what you meant by start-ish

cinder vessel
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That struck me as like first third still

rare coral
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yea its kinda far in but not really far in

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if that makes sense

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def first third

teal trench
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I'm guilty of dropping Path of Exile at an extremely early point. Right off the bat, the game angered me and annoyed me on several things when I tried it in 2015. A few months ago, I tried to play it again to give it another chance, and was irked by the same exact rubbish.

cinder vessel
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lol yeah maybe, I'm guessing you may have thought I was still going through like childhood/first little bouts of training

rare coral
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yea I thought you were pre-proving

cinder vessel
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Path of Exile always struck me as too lootgrindy

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Since it's basically a Diablo-style game

teal trench
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I'm talking less than an hour after character creation.

cinder vessel
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o_O

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did it have a really obnoxious UI because i can totally follow that, lol

teal trench
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No, it wasn't that. I'm searching to see if I had explained it on reddit, because I kinda don't want to type it all out again lol. It was kinda lengthy.

cinder vessel
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lol

teal trench
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Grr.

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I guess not.

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I know I typed it out; it was likely in the old discord server I ran.

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Not in it any more.

cinder vessel
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๐Ÿคท It's whatevs

rare coral
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just got a "slap stick" from a silver fish

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lol

lavish obsidian
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You can also pick up a mute sword if you're lucky

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Mine was lost to a mob encounter

primal inlet
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I'm very very proud of myself for the slap stick

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not much else though

agile raven
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I have a slap stick

rare coral
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I just thought it was funny a silver fish dropped a stick

primal inlet
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oh, Sea of Thieves is up

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...I think

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It's just giving me a grey screen

cinder vessel
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yarr that be the fog o' war!

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also i just went with my initial decision re: PSN sale, so Old Hunters & Statik were picked, for anyone interested, lol

primal inlet
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I'm actually stuck on a loading screen now. I get this funny feeling that thousands of people are trying to sign in at once ๐Ÿค”

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also yes statik looked good

rare coral
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I dont miss launch days

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such a long wait to get into a game on launch day

teal trench
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Lol.

Hype up a game
Advertise it everywhere
Constantly show off the graphics
Make absurd claims about needing high-end hardware
Have a timed release date for servers to go online

... yeah. They succeeded in baiting all the high-end pc gaming enthusiasts out of their benchmarking circlejerks, to give it a test run. I'd imagine the login servers are being overloaded to an extreme.

lavish obsidian
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I'm just going to wait a few months.

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It is fun, however.

cinder vessel
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Sea of Thieves is strictly online & multi, yeah? Not sure about the former, but if latter is true, wouldn't surprise me

primal rover
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Yeah, GMR

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But you can choose to solo-sail

primal inlet
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...Judging by the Reddit it appears that the matchmaking servers are completely down

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just uh fyi

teal trench
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Hit character limit again... yay.

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@cinder vessel Okay, about the PoE thing... I'm sure it's common knowledge now that I get stupidly angry about stuff, way too easily. Upon loading the game up for the first time in 2015, I was met with the character selection screen in the brig of a ship at sea. Rather than show me base stats, what each character can do and is capable of, it instead insisted on auto-playing an audio dialog of the character's background story every single bloody time I switched the cursor to another character. It had a long, annoying auto-scroll textbox which the game was reading from. No actual data about the class's stats or anything. Don't get me wrong, I love reading, and I love lore. This was just... absurd, and extremely annoying to me.

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@cinder vessel After finally settling on one, I was introduced to the gameworld, which... was not what I was expecting, after that cinematic intro. I don't mind the graphics at all - I actually liked them. What irked me, was the camera angle. It's locked at that weird isometric angle, and makes it difficult for me to see what I'm doing. I don't like that. Then, there's the inventory.... items that drop don't fill a single slot like any normal game. Instead, the item's shape dictates how many slots it takes up. It was bloody annoying, having my inventory fill up so quickly. Then, there was the combat itself. It's worse than Minecraft (in my opinion) with its constant spam clicking. It felt like I was playing one of those clicker cheap games where you're encouraged to use an auto-clicker software.

These things, and a number of other things just kept on adding up, and I got sick of it to the point where I couldn't bring myself to enjoy it at all. If I'm not enjoying something, then what's the point of playing it? A game is meant to be played for fun. So I dropped it after the first hour or so, and didn't return until a few months ago (like November 2017). The same exact things that bugged me last time, bothered me again. However, this time there also seemed to be alternate game modes and I couldn't find any form of ingame explanation as to what these do, or what I should choose. I had to resort to googling it, and then locating a tiny snippet - as if added by afterthought - to the Wiki, explaining briefly what the game modes are. I left again, and haven't returned.

limber harness
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this is why you make sure your servers can handle 50x the expected load

teal trench
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^

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Always go overkill on hardware and network.

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Never try to guess a limit

limber harness
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with any sane design, there should be absolutely no difference between 1 and 1,000,000 records

primal inlet
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SoT discord is alternating between complaints and apologism for Rare

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nobody has a clue what's going on

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honestly, this is why I love launch nights

gaunt hare
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I'm really disappointed in Elite so far

primal inlet
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I can easily understand why, but there's a wide variety of reasons

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so...why?

cinder vessel
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Oof, yeah, that's a whole mess of unwieldy decisions even before ya entered the game Quav, so I can follow being put off by it

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Too simmy? ๐Ÿ˜›

gaunt hare
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Well, I guess it's a few things. One of the biggest is that as I learn about the game, players who have been playing it are so pissed

cinder vessel
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FUCK YOU FOR LEARNING OKAPI

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SHOULDA BEEN HERE SINCE BEFORE YOU EVEN KNEW ABOUT IT

gaunt hare
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It's like the more you play it the more you know why it's shit

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I've heard some of their reasons why, but it's just the kind of thing like

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one guy was saying he loved the game 200 hours in

cinder vessel
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sunk cost wooooo

gaunt hare
#

and someone said "ahh you're still in the honeymoon phase"

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I don't know if I want to play a game 500 hours just to hate it

cinder vessel
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or invert and love, lol

shy badger
#

Yeah @primal inlet im waiting a little bit to log in. I knew it would swamp the servers since its a huge release

gaunt hare
#

The other reason is since today's patch it FUCKING crashes the gamewhen I try to enter a planet a la NMS

cinder vessel
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๐Ÿ˜ฑ

teal trench
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That's RuneScape in a nutshell, @gaunt hare. People who have played for thousands of hours have a love/hate relationship with it, whereas new players tend to be heavily put off by it at the get-go.

gaunt hare
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I've been playing it for 2 days straight basically

shy badger
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i love elite dangerous

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you stop that naughty talk sir

gaunt hare
#

I'm having a lot of fun playing it

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but when you start to see the long term

shy badger
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in fact when i get the oculus soon ill never leave

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ive played for the long term hahah

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maybe i enjoy the pain

gaunt hare
#

Some people love it 500 hours

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and never stop

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I don't know. I guess I've realized I'm gonna die one day so I want to be sure if I'm sinking that time in it feels worthwile

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compared to all these other games I have

shy badger
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yep if you get in with good groups of people and start doing serious exploring it can be really good for people who like that type of game

gaunt hare
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but on the other side go'ddamn elite is so much fun so far.

rigid haven
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That's a depressing realisation

teal trench
#

How does Elite: Dangerous compare to NMS and EVE? The gameplay and content.

shy badger
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hahaha i was just about to say that

gaunt hare
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Well I can only find time for so much video games!

shy badger
#

totally different

gaunt hare
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@teal trench opposite sides of a spectrum

shy badger
#

Elite is basically a simulator

gaunt hare
#

arcade to simulation

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but their flow is really similar

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surprisingly similar

shy badger
#

elite has what i need NMS to have

gaunt hare
#

Travel from star to star

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visiting space stations

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grind

shy badger
#

that unknown feeling of maybe possibly finding something

gaunt hare
#

Land on planets drive around or walk/drive in nms

shy badger
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its beautiful too

gaunt hare
#

Very realistic graphics

teal trench
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Okay, lol. I look at it like this: Flying a spaceship through systems, exploring galaxies, entering/using space stations, landing on planets, and space battles. Does Elite have this?

gaunt hare
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Exactly

shy badger
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you gotta just look up videos

gaunt hare
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It is exactly that

shy badger
#

i mean it is that

teal trench
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So I can land on planets?

shy badger
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but it has a learning curve

gaunt hare
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Certain ones

shy badger
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yezh but you cant walk around yet

gaunt hare
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just drive a cute buggy

shy badger
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and its only non atomphereic planets you can land on

teal trench
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Well, it's already surpassed EVE if you can land on planets.

shy badger
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the srv is great

gaunt hare
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Entire customization being locked behind micro transactions sucks tho

shy badger
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its really in depth theres a big learning curve.. but its worth it

gaunt hare
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cosmetically

teal trench
#

So somewhere between NMS and EVE, then.
How about combat? Is it clunky like NMS, or dynamic and responsive like EVE?

shy badger
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holy balls combat is good

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you have complete control over the ship

cinder vessel
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What do you find in Elite tho? ๐Ÿค”

shy badger
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energy distribution .. ship scans .. you can silent run which shuts down shields but makes it so you can't be targeted

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uhh a billion weapons to customize and all the customization inside the ship and outside

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duddde

cinder vessel
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wait EVE has good combat lol?

teal trench
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Game content being locked behind microtransactions makes it sound way too much like EVE. They shouldn't sell a game, and then have ingame purchases on top of that. At least EVE is free, now. It used to be sub only.

shy badger
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the first person to witness a thargoid was a random guy exploring around

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the thing just took him out of hyperspace

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and it scared the balls out of him

teal trench
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Combat in EVE is one of the main selling points, Leon.

shy badger
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theres no microtransacton.. its just like for decals and shit

teal trench
cinder vessel
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Most combat vids I can think of seeing from EVE are the dullest stuff, lol

teal trench
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Watch that.

shy badger
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so in ED their were signs of aliens and shit and tons of odd things popped up but a year ago a random dude happened to get interdicted while in hyperspace. it was completely random. he was just in an area where they had activity and the game is so big it was going on while the game was happening

cinder vessel
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Yeah, I've seen that vid before, I'm not into the whole phase beam approach, re: EVE & Quav

shy badger
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thats the kind of exploration aspect i like

gaunt hare
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Elite looks super complicated and it kind of is but once you see gameplay you'll get it

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@shy badger PC elite?

shy badger
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yeah.. i just like the unknown stuff, why i like space ๐Ÿ˜„

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yeahp

teal trench
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@cinder vessel It's not meant to be a realistic simulator. It's more of a ... "space pirates rule the galaxy" type space combat arcade sim.

cinder vessel
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The Thargoids are literally the only major interesting discovery I've heard/read about from anyone in relation to Elite, lol

shy badger
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thats the major one that has story and changes to the different economies

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but you can explore deep space and come across some crazy planets and systems

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also they have found mega ships people didn't know exsisted

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they still are

gaunt hare
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Ya they hiding stuff

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Are you looking forward to the rest of Beyond?

shy badger
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haha i know to much about ED. I still like NMS a bit more, but honestly ED really nails down the scope

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of space

cinder vessel
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Mega ships like you can get ooorrr

shy badger
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when i say mega ships

teal trench
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So, the microtransactions in Elite are only for decals and recolours? No actual game content, or equipment/parts for ships/etc.?

cinder vessel
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And crazy planets/systems how? ๐Ÿค”

shy badger
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i mean like a ship thats the size of a moon basically

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yeah flan

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uhh

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i can show you pictures

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lol

cinder vessel
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that's a station at that point, not a ship, lol

shy badger
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describing stuff stinks

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yeah well mega station whatever

teal trench
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Okay. I still think MTX is bad, but whatever. At least the game itself is buy to play, with no sub.

cinder vessel
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buuut it's always online so they get ya there

gaunt hare
#

Ya seriously. Elite is hard to describe but just watch some gameplay

shy badger
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nope you can play offline

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and it carries over online

gaunt hare
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You guys might like it

cinder vessel
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Not true, we've gone over this several times when Elite comes up, lol

gaunt hare
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Nah, it's always online I thought

shy badger
#

well

gaunt hare
#

You have to be connected to servers

shy badger
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yeah always online sorry

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you can solo play though i meant

gaunt hare
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You can be in private lobby tho

cinder vessel
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Yeah, which is kinda eh in its own way

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Since if memory serves the econ is still influenced by the multi side, hence keeping it always online

shy badger
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I mean hey its a niche game

teal trench
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I've only briefly looked at Elite. The little I saw was mildly terrifying - it triggered my bathophobia. (Extreme fear of depths)
EVE Online did that too with a lot of areas; the graphics were too realistic. NMS is more cartoony, which makes it easier.

shy badger
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but if you like space games its a must play at this point

cinder vessel
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Eh

shy badger
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Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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lol

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well fine then

gaunt hare
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Yes, it is

shy badger
#

its all mine you can never play it gmr

cinder vessel
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lol

gaunt hare
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I've been playing it 8 hours a day past two days

shy badger
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haha yeah

teal trench
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Where's Dalek when you need him to say no one has that much time.

cinder vessel
#

My eh is largely directed at their dumbass tech decision to require online connections, hate that noise

teal trench
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@sleek shadow

shy badger
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its a mmoish

teal trench
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Oh, he went to bed.

cinder vessel
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It's a noncommittal dalliance with MMO-ishness.

teal trench
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That's right

cinder vessel
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GET MARRIED FRONTIER OR GTFO

shy badger
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hahaha i know flan

cinder vessel
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๐Ÿ˜›

shy badger
#

well the whole point of the game really is nothing stops happening when you sign off.. its supposed to be a fluid galaxy

cinder vessel
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Don't tease me with that solo mode shit, lol

shy badger
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thats why missions have time limits

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and if you dont complete it the factons will hate you

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lol

cinder vessel
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Ya ever try X3: Terran Conflict?

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It has timed missions, econ sim, etc.

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But ya can play it offline. >_>

shy badger
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yeah i heard.. i looked at it for a hawt minute

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i like the online thing

teal trench
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@shy badger, that reminds me of an old sci-fi pc browser game I played in 2006.

shy badger
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so hah

cinder vessel
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lol

teal trench
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The "when you log off, stuff keeps happening" thing.

cinder vessel
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If it suits ya it suits ya so all's good with ya there

shy badger
#

it is so realistic when you warp in and someones there

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yeah

cinder vessel
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I'm just gonna be over here miffed that they don't offer an offline variant lol

shy badger
#

this dude has a voice that melts my heart

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also hes got good videos to show you different aspects of the game

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but yeah watch that i guess.. i cant talk about it

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lol

cinder vessel
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One of my fav. things about NMS is honestly just the scale & the sheer sense of solitude

shy badger
#

ED is so big its out of control. its got the same feel

cinder vessel
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So like, if I would just put up with the net req shit I'd probably be into the solo mode of Elite

shy badger
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i play mostly in solo mode

teal trench
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@shy badger It was one of those um... you know the multiplayer kingdom management games? Like, you can build up your kingdom, construct buildings, make war machines, etc., and then wage war on other players on the map. It was an RTS Sci-Fi, like Starcraft with that level system for buildings and npcs, who do what they're assigned to do. However, it was online and stuff kept happening when you logged off. So you could log back in to your base being destroyed.

shy badger
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but it depends

teal trench
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It was in 2006 or so.

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And in the browser.

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There was no download.

shy badger
#

hmm

teal trench
#

Idk the name of it, or even if it still exists.

shy badger
#

i never played it thats for sure lol

teal trench
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I love those types of games.

shy badger
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elite is a little more forgiving.. it wont like keep your ship floating in space while your gone

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hahaha

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but elite has neutron stars... binary star systems craaazy ringed planets accurate planet rotation ect

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NMS is lacking in that shit so bad, i needs it. if NMS had the things it should have i would be so happy

teal trench
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If they ever let GoG release it for free, I'll grab a copy. I'm not gonna spend any money on a game that easily triggers my bathophobia.

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I don't enjoy feeling fear.

shy badger
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noo you dont want that man

gaunt hare
#

Honestly I went back to NMS after Elite started crashing when entering planets

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and it does make NMS scale seem sillier

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Just in the way where there's a lamp in the sky and then a cluster of 1-6 planets and moons

shy badger
#

yeah thats exactly what im saying

gaunt hare
#

Elite has like actual sun's and orbits

shy badger
#

and every system has aliens lol

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like thats a SHIT ton of aliens

gaunt hare
#

and you can watch yourself travel through thousands of light seconds

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Quite exhilarating

shy badger
#

but NMS still has the promise

gaunt hare
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and NMS will always have the planets

shy badger
#

they can fix it. they gotta

teal trench
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Can you point your ship in a direction, and fly between systems? Or is it like NMS, with a "fake" boundary between systems that force you to use the galactic map to warp?

shy badger
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no you can just fly

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theirs no fluff really

gaunt hare
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There is a lot of warping from system to system

cinder vessel
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but realistically you never want to just fly

shy badger
#

nope

gaunt hare
#

It's very similar

shy badger
#

lol just flying wouldl take fooorever

teal trench
#

Can you upgrade your ship's engines, beyond what you can do in NMS?

cinder vessel
#

If NMS were to get more "simmy" so to speak, I'd rather it be weird fucked up simulation

gaunt hare
#

it's just... it's hard to describe because games take liberties, but this is like a 1:1 scale of the galaxy

shy badger
#

me too leon

cinder vessel
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Screw the natural orbit shit, just get weird

shy badger
#

NMS is a totally different game

cinder vessel
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Get so fuckin' weird, lol

shy badger
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it needs to get weird dude. i mean WT made it weird

teal trench
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I'd like to be able to upgrade my normal engines to the point where I can fly through space at a rate of a few light years per second.

cinder vessel
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Because every "serious" space game is gonna try to do that samey boring physics sim shit, which is cool here & there but for every space game? Nah man

teal trench
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No warping.

shy badger
#

you can do that

gaunt hare
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@cinder vessel they both do different things very well.

teal trench
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I can?

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o.o

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Then that already makes it more ideal for me, than NMS.

cinder vessel
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Yeah, Elite: Dangerous totally has its whole realish sim stuff down pat, so good on that for what that's worth

shy badger
#

you can upgrade everything about the ship

gaunt hare
#

And the combat

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and customization.

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And mission design

shy badger
#

yeah they really arn't compairable besides the space shiat

cinder vessel
#

But space is so fuckin' weird & full of stranger potential

gaunt hare
#

Arguably graphics

cinder vessel
#

Eh, that's an art direction preference

teal trench
#

I assume I can potato-ise the graphics, right?

gaunt hare
#

Space is very, very weird just being space.

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Space is the most insane concept out there, physically

teal trench
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If I can make the graphics look cheap, that will help with my bathophobia.

gaunt hare
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It's whole existence is mind boggling, so a realistic interpretation done well can feel extremely alien.

shy badger
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space is beyond what we can concieve but its fun as fuck to try lol

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Flan its not too bad for your bathophobia, but I don't know exactly how its triggered

teal trench
#

Making it feel like I'm really there - a realistic simulator.

shy badger
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its never completely dark or anything .. theirs orbit lines you can have on so it has shit always going on the screenn

gaunt hare
#

Look into the void

shy badger
#

you can do things to subvert that

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just dont get VR for it hahaha

teal trench
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I looked up a video in low graphics. It looks like SNES graphics a bit, lol. I'm okay with it.

shy badger
#

sorry bud that sounds like a miserable thing to deal with

teal trench
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It's the realism of the depth, and how ... "big and empty" something is.

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Like a giant cavern with a ceiling I can't see.

shy badger
#

well the good thing is its really hard to get the sense of scale without VR

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you can't really it all looks realitive, nothing seems overwhelmingly big even though it is

gaunt hare
#

I hear it makes the best vr game ever

shy badger
#

but please don't get it if you think itd trigger that.

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yeah its the best gaming experience i think ive ever had oka

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and i only got to play it for 3 hours with vr

#

i needs more ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

it was mind blowing though

gaunt hare
#

Damn, apparently there's no way it's coming to psvr

teal trench
#

I miss this game.

light cairn
shy badger
#

skip comin in hot with those dry eyes

#

ima try to log into the SoT servers hahaha

#

gamers whine sooooo much

#

everything is the end of the world

teal trench
#

Apparently, James Earl Jones is one of the voice actors in that old ps1 game.

shy badger
#

hahaa wow thats a name i totally forgot about

teal trench
#

He does the intro story.

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"Luke, I am your father."

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Haha

shy badger
#

they need to make a game where Morgan Freeman just narrates every single thing you do in the game.

light cairn
#

only for jim carrey

shy badger
#

make it a sandbox game with no purpose besides having Morgan Freeman tell you what you're doing

teal trench
#

Like that, @shy badger ?

shy badger
#

hahahaa yeah

#

only insert the freeman

gaunt hare
#

Ahh RuneScape

#

Simpler times

blazing torrent
#

@teal trench sorry bout the door

teal trench
#

It's fine, lol.

agile raven
#

I finally made a house in town

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Right behind spawn

sleek shadow
#

Yay

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I might make the open land next to my house a garden

blazing torrent
#

runeSCCCCCCCCAPE

sleek shadow
#

Hot

knotty osprey
#

I canโ€™t access the minecraft server from my iPad :(

#

it ainโ€™t connecting

ashen sable
#

Because pocket edition has different servers

#

Same with windows 10 edition

#

Though they both have the same server capability

plucky mesa
#

@sharp parcel Colony Wars PSX was fine?

#

I should burn a copy

daring badge
#

๐Ÿ˜ฑ DONT SET A GAME DISC ON FIRE

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!!!

limber harness
#

@knotty osprey MCPE and the Java version of Minecraft use different servers.

knotty osprey
#

I expected that already, but it was worth a shot lol

limber harness
#

As of now, there is no plan to host Pocket Edition servers, nor do I even have the technical capability at this time. If it's something you guys are interested in though, let me know and I'll see what I can do. It'll definitely be a different map and experience though, sadly.

knotty osprey
#

ha

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I was just trying because I randomly got minecraft PE for free from the App Store

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I donโ€™t plan on playing MCPE a lot either, so I donโ€™t think itโ€™s necessary.

daring badge
#

Itโ€™s pretty easy to host MCPE server

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It takes a LOT less ram

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@limber harness

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You just have to download a third party server software

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Bc Mojang doesnโ€™t want to give everyone their own server, bc they have realms

limber harness
#

Concern isnt hosting. Management

daring badge
#

Ohhh

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Itโ€™s the same for installing olugins

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Itโ€™s just the servers are buggy unless you basically rip apart the software are fix it

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So itโ€™s definitely not worth it

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Also, I am now home!! So I can play on the server again!! Did anyone wreck my wall?

uncut bramble
#

I wanna play minecraft! But already own it for the switch. Not buying it again ๐Ÿ˜‚

ashen sable
uncut bramble
#

Damn, so did my meeting! ๐Ÿ˜‚ Shout out if anything exciting happens

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I'm not big into Indies ๐Ÿคท

rigid haven
#

Ohhh shit

ashen sable
#

So you don't like Cuphead? Shovel Knight? Like any great games ever?

uncut bramble
#

Emm haven't played either of those... ๐Ÿคท lol

rigid haven
#

WHAT

uncut bramble
#

Bare in mind I am PS4 gamer, I don't think either of those are on PS4. ๐Ÿ˜‚

ashen sable
#

I believe they are

uncut bramble
#

Cuphead isn't

ashen sable
#

wat

rigid haven
#

Shovel Knight is, though

uncut bramble
#

Cuphead is exclusive

rigid haven
#

Yeah, Cuphead never came to PS4

ashen sable
#

Tbf, I've not played either either, not had a chance to

#

ADULT SWIM GAME

rigid haven
#

Ooo

#

Damn, my internet fails me at the most vital moments GWnanamiKonataCry

royal tendon
#

๐Ÿ˜…

#

I'll see what ps4 indies I can find for you tomorrow morning. Maybe we can introduce you to a few ๐Ÿ˜›

uncut bramble
#

Haha! I think I have a few. Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Journey, emm that's probably about it ๐Ÿ˜‚

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I don't have timmeeee lol

rigid haven
#

Furi is a good one

winter yew
#

Check put a game called forma.8

#

Pixeljunk Shooter Ultimate is pretty good too ๐Ÿ˜‰

rigid haven
#

Oh

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Hyper Light Drifter

winter yew
#

I have that on pc

rigid haven
#

Grow Home and Grow Up

#

Firewatch

uncut bramble
#

Grow Home I liked ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

winter yew
#

Itโ€™s ridiculously tough but worth the challenge

rigid haven
#

Don't Starve

#

Titan Souls

#

(I'm just listing stuff ๐Ÿ˜…)

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Broforce

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Amnesia: The Dark Descent

#

Little Nightmares

winter yew
#

Retro City Rampage, Shovel Knight, uhhh that one Metroidvania game I canโ€™t remember the name but it starts with an A

rigid haven
#

Not a Hero

#

Hmm

#

Invisible Inc.

#

Hatoful Boyfriend

winter yew
#
  1. Mark of the Ninja Remastered(edited)
  2. Fantasy Strike
  3. Just Shapes & Beats (NS first)
  4. Garage (NS first)
  5. ???
  6. Bomb Chicken (NS first)
  7. Lumines Remastered
  8. Reigns +Reigns Her Majesty
  9. Light Fall
  10. West of Loathing
  11. Pode
  12. The Messenger
  13. Bad North (this looks awesome)
  14. Banner Saga 3
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was that the list

#

I didn't catch 5

#

Aaero is pretty good, I'm not sure if it's on PS4 though.

#

Wait. LUMINES REMASTERED?!

#

yeah

rigid haven
#

This War of Mine

#

Hm?

#

Oh, neat

#

Thanks Clover

winter yew
#

oh shit

#

I'm looking forward to that <3333333

#

most seem to come out by the end of summer

#

Wait, is it actually coming to PS4?

royal tendon
#

What's all this?

#

Oh

winter yew
#

it should be

royal tendon
#

I know now

winter yew
#

I am only seeing Nintendo Switch announcement ๐Ÿ˜›

royal tendon
#

the switch nindies, was it?

winter yew
#

they never said NS only

rigid haven
#

Mark of the Ninja Remastered?

#

Hmm

#

I will definitely pick that up

royal tendon
#

Just shapes and beats is good

#

West of Loathing is a great game, glad that's coming to switch

rigid haven
#

Oh

#

Ohhhh

royal tendon
#

Bad North is a familiar title, but hmm GWchinaSakuraThinking

#

I can't recall what it is

rigid haven
#

I've not heard of many of them

winter yew
#

bad north looks super fun

#

I have it on PC

#

reminds me of REZ

#

Yeah its heavily inspired by Rez

royal tendon
#

I know of aaero

rigid haven
#

Time to search up nearly all of the games you just mentioned

royal tendon
#

It's an interesting take on rhythm ๐Ÿ˜…

winter yew
#

Rez was super hard to find about 5-6 years ago

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then they remastered

#

Rez Infinite <33333

#

the spider boss on Aaero is amusing and scary

#

that little 'meow' when it hops out

#

I showed that clip to a friend of mine that has a fear of spiders

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I feel bad lol.

#

this looks awesome

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The idea is to keep your shots in sync with the beat for more damage

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oh

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that outtro

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is Tranquility

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love that song

royal tendon
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Direct GWnanamiThumbsUp

ashen sable
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That was the list of the games announced

knotty osprey
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Reigns kings AND queens ๐Ÿค”

ashen sable
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@winter yew pool panic was the one you missed

winter yew
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oh that was it

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I knew it was some billiards one

ashen sable
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Yup, the Adult Swim game

rigid haven
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Merci, Mon ami

uncut bramble
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Anyone picking up Sea of Thieves?

winter yew
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debating it

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not sure if it has enough content to justify

uncut bramble
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The aesthetic looks amazing

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Heard it's shy of content

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And I don't really have anyone to play with, and going solo is a bit risky I've heard ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

winter yew
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that's what I've heard too

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I'd rather buy kirby for the switch

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... so I did

uncut bramble
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I prefer single player experiences, lol. I don't like relying on people to play games with lol

winter yew
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๐Ÿ˜›

uncut bramble
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The demo of Kirby was great!

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I shouldn't be making decisions today, pay day isn't for a week or so yet haha

winter yew
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I feel you

uncut bramble
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And Sea of Thieves wasn't an option for me till I bought my new laptop muhaha

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I'm watching a guy on twitch playing solo

winter yew
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care to link me?

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I wanna check it out

uncut bramble
winter yew
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man the water looks so good

uncut bramble
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It looks like it's never likely to come to PS4 so I guess if I want to be serious about gaming on my laptop then this is the one

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The water looks amazing

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Since it's out for Xbox too I'm assuming controller support is there which would be good for me. Keyboard and mouse don't like me

primal inlet
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I grabbed Sea of Thieves and played it for four hours last night with some randos I found on the SoT Reddit discord

uncut bramble
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Oohhh how was it?

primal inlet
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It's kinda repetitive in terms of missions, but it's really just great because of...playing with people

uncut bramble
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But I don't like people ๐Ÿ˜‚

primal inlet
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That's the most generic sentence I've written in a while, but it's correct

uncut bramble
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I like watching this guy repair his ship

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Those visuals โค

primal inlet
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Well, it does look really good too :P

uncut bramble
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It looks like it's included in Xbox game pass. I don't have an Xbox but it sounds like that works on PC too? So I could bmaybe get the free trial of that and try it out that way

rare coral
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worth 60$?

primal inlet
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And performs well, too - I had every video setting on "Rare", which I think is their Ultra, and the worst I got was slight stuttering on loading a new area

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...I don't know yet, maybe not at this time

winter yew
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it does work on PC I'm pretty sure

uncut bramble
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It's on there, on Xbox pass. It's just whether or not that works for PC too

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Nice

winter yew
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how well, unknown

primal inlet
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They're planning on doing NMS-style updates, but more frequently and more openly

rare coral
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I'll keep an eye on it then

uncut bramble
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The Xbox Game Pass is an Xbox One, Xbox Play Anywhere, and Xbox 360 backwards compatibility game subscription for Xbox One. The Xbox Game Pass currently features a select number of Xbox Play Anywhere games that is continually increasing. The latest list of Xbox Play Anywhere titles can be viewed at xbox.com/gamepass

primal inlet
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I mean I like it but I also like digging thousand-block-long tunnels on the Minecraft server :P

uncut bramble
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hhaha

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This game pass thing makes me want an Xbox though! Zoo Tycoon ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

winter yew
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HYPPPPPPPPPE

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โค

iron inlet
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The top post on the Sea of Thieves subreddit was something like

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After 5 hours of Sea of Thieves I've already experienced most of what it has to offer

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so I'm probably gonna refrain from picking it up ๐Ÿ˜…

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Is Elite Dangerous any good?

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Like give me a rating out of 10

uncut bramble
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I got that Xbox trial thing so I'll get my 5 hours for free I hope lol.

Elite dangerous for me was like a 7. Got loads of hours our of it but very grindy

iron inlet
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This sucks

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I've got nothing to play

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like yo there's no games I want

primal inlet
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New Humble Jumbo Bundle released half an hour ago, and it looks really good (if you don't have half the games already :v)

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Most are single player too

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if not all...

iron inlet
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See my issue is tho

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all those games look great

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I just dont want to play them

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like idk what game I want to play

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and it's frustrating as fuck

primal inlet
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are you sure that's not just video game burnout

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I tend to do that to myself a lot

iron inlet
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But I want to play something

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but everything I look at I'm just like "ew no"

primal inlet
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"ew no" as in "that doesn't look good" or as in "nah, not in the mood for that one"?

iron inlet
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Like not in the mood

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But Like I want to play a game

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for example, I looked at DOOM

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was like "Yeah I should totally play that"

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got to the main menu and went "Nah, don't want to."

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which is super fuckin frustrating

teal trench
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@limber harness, if there is interest in a Bedrock edition server, I'd like to note that there would be some minor problems with hosting. To my knowledge, the only way to currently run a Bedrock server, is to have it located on one of three platforms - Win10, a mobile device such as an iPad, or an xBox. I know there was discussion from Mojang about allowing the playstation users and Nintendo users connect, but that hasn't been finalised yet. Anywho, this means you'd have to have access to a dedicated server that uses Win10 as its OS. Or, find someone with decent hardware and stable network with Win10.

Then of course, there's management issues, as you said. There is currently no support (and no known conversion) for standard plugins on Bedrock servers. Instead, it uses an entirely different API, requiring "Addons" developed in C++. I still don't know how these work, and I haven't taken time to really dig up much info on them. There's also the fact that Bedrock servers currently only support a maximum of 10 players.

limber harness
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iirc there are unofficial builds

teal trench
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Oh, certainly lol.

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There's cracked versions of everything.

limber harness
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eg Nukkit

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and PocketMine-MP

teal trench
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Is there also unofficial clients to connect to these, for players who don't have Win10?

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I haven't looked into that scene yet.

limber harness
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I'm not aware of any, but I assume you need an official Bedrock client

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especially for online mode, as iirc most of that is done through Xbox [???]

teal trench
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Yeah, Win10 connection is via xBox live.

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Huh, so Nukkit has been around since 2016.

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That's neat.

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Ooh, plugin support.

limber harness
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very few things are actually ready on the bedrock side though

teal trench
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Yeah.

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Mojang is still actively developing it.

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Hmm. How up to date is Nukkit? The current Bedrock build is caught up to 1.12.2's features.

limber harness
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No idea.

teal trench
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Looks like they've converted it to Java, which is kinda sad.

limber harness
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Again, java is not as bad as people say

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seriously

teal trench
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I know.

limber harness
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Nukkit is up to bedrock 1.2.11

teal trench
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You don't have to convince me of that; I've been playing a Java game addictively since 2004, created by developers who make the claim "Java gaming experts". They felt confident enough that Java was the language to choose.

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I made the note that it's sad Nukkit is Java, because the C++ edition (Bedrock) performs faaarrr greater than the Java edition, or Java servers. That said, I haven't yet tried this Nukkit. So hopefully they were able to retain the performance boost.

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I mean, Bedrock edition has the option in the vanilla client to have render distance at 128.

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Lol.

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Java can't do that.

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(To my knowledge)

primal inlet
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It seems like Nukkit is only written in Java - it's only compatible with Bedrock

limber harness
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It can

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Well-optimized and written Java can perform just as well as C code

teal trench
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Okay, let me rephrase. The current Java edition of Minecraft can't successfully run at 128, without a severe performance impact.

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I wasn't talking about Java as a whole.

iron inlet
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People complain about Java purely because it's unoptimized as shit in terms of minecraft

limber harness
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^ this

teal trench
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I know.

iron inlet
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So most people's PCs can't run it well

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which is why people bang on about bedrock edition being better

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but honestly Java is just fine

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as long as your PC can handle being shat on by several thousand java-based pigeons

teal trench
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You're preaching to the choir.

limber harness
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look at what optifine does. java is performant

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Also, Bedrock Edition is a completely different architecture

primal inlet
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There's also this weird little brand new project I found that claims to bridge Spigot and Bedrock, I might experiment with it when I get home

teal trench
limber harness
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JE was written by a couple people out of boredom and the idea to make a neat game without knowing what would happen. Bedrock was written by professionals.

iron inlet
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Nah I'm not trying to explain I know you're all understanding it

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I just felt like airing my grievances ๐Ÿ˜›

teal trench
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Oh, okay. I felt like it was an attempt to explain to me, or try to tell me to stop complaining about it lol.

limber harness
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bridging spigot and bedrock sounds very dangerous, @primal inlet

iron inlet
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Oh nah ๐Ÿ˜›

primal inlet
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it does

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which is why I'm in no way suggesting even attempting it on the server

iron inlet
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I literally have 150+ games WHY THE FUCK CANT I PICK ONE TO PLAY

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AGH

primal inlet
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Paradox of choice?

limber harness
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dragonproxy looks cool, but there are a lot of things that could go very wrong

iron inlet
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The more choice you have the less you want to choose?

primal inlet
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yes

limber harness
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I mean I'd be willing to try it, but it seems like it could do some really really fun things

teal trench
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@iron inlet That's me. I've played hundreds (I want to claim thousands) of MMOs and PC games since 2004, yet I always return to RuneScape and MineCraft. I can't ever find one that is capable of retaining my attention as well as those two.

limber harness
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and by fun i mean "kaz will be up until 2 AM fixing a server"

primal inlet
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...I honestly just want to see how well it works myself, I doubt it'll work well

iron inlet
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@teal trench Literally I've been going hard in phases for games

primal inlet
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the first release is NINE DAYS OLD

limber harness
iron inlet
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I hard went for Destiny, then NMS, then The Witcher 3, then Skyrim, then NMS again, then Destiny 2, then The Divison, Then Monster Hunter World, and since I got done with MHW I've been ded

primal inlet
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...

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Okay, maybe I was looking at the wrong page?

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Hold on

limber harness
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actually hmm

iron inlet
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oh and I fucked the life out of Superhot for a few days

limber harness
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i guess i'll try dragonproxy tonight

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you got me curious now, deluxer ๐Ÿ˜„

iron inlet
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I got like 150 kills in Endless mode and then I burnt out

teal trench
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o_o

iron inlet
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It took like 90 minutes lol

primal inlet
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don't do it on the main server don't do it on the main server

limber harness
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i'm reading the code now

teal trench
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Honestly, the last time I actively tried to play a proper PC game, that wasn't an MMO, was like... before 2011 or so. It's been nonstop MMO hunting for me. So, a lot of the PC games you named, I haven't touched.

limber harness
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it shockingly looks mostly harmless

iron inlet
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a lot of them are really good

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Destiny 2 turned out to be garbage sadly

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dont bother

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The Divison is good now, until you burn out after a month

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Superhot is great

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"It's the most innovative shooter I've played in years"

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but it's very much a one trick pony

teal trench
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I played Skyrim, then the remastered version, and then mods, and still didn't enjoy it as much as people hype it up. That's really the only proper PC game I've played since 2011.

iron inlet
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once you master it (which is pretty quickly) it loses its novelty

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I put like 2k hours into Skyrim

teal trench
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Morrowind will forever remain my favourite Elder Scrolls game.

iron inlet
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about 300 into vanilla, a further 1400 into modded, then 300 into SSE

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I missed Morrowind and now it's too old for me to want to play it

teal trench
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No idea how many hours I put into Morrowind.