I want the SCANNER on the VISOR to read out the system coordinates and/or Seed of a targeted ship / weapon
#nms-modding
hearty wasp
that's improbable tbh
hushed bronze
I figured
But I thought maybe by crossing information from the beacon and the scanner, it might be possible
IDK about getting the seed though
hearty wasp
the proc gen names are p hard to extract tbh
there are options to read seed in debug options but I dunno if that works in the first place
let alone carrying that info onto anything else
rotund vine
/r/NoMansSkyTheGame: <OhhhSnakes> [Screenshot Modding] ReShade No Vulkan ๐ญ โ https://redd.it/begrkw
This mod looks pretty cool, it almost looks like atlas rises shadings
hearty wasp
it's really mostly just the colour lol
when everything is mushed together it can be hard to differentiate different "shadings"
pallid tartan
Pipes, wires
Old fashioned computer monitors
Funky seats?
Run down buildings
Stuff youโd find in a cramped apartment
Origami as an OG bladerunner reference?
hearty wasp
rn I already have some pipes and wires, a box air-con, some metal scaffold pillars and bridges
I wanna do something like a cage textured wall and some glass related door window and railings too
I can rescale the boxed monitor for tdem CRTs I guess lol and we can already build rundown buildings with the rust or concrete
going for a walled city look will probably be easier for me cos I'm literally living in one of em buildings
steel crypt
Updated to v1.77.9
Bugfixed some green colors. Improved multi-color grass colors.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968
copper gorge
can anyone recommend some good colour/reshade or planetgen/enviro mods?
hearty wasp
hushed bronze
Jasondude is very careful about his color design, the only one being nearly as exact with it
As for terrain gen mods, the only one Ive found to be decent is Back to Foundations Terrain part
hushed bronze
Personally I would suggest trying this specific combo: Jasons colors, BtF Terrain, and my own grass correction
Im not 100% sure my grass works on BtF terrain but I think it does
hearty wasp
I gotta get jenga into the modding discord soon
hushed bronze
That your GF?
hushed bronze
oh how bout that
hearty wasp
thinking I have a gf
rotund vine
๐
hushed bronze
the new shader folder for pc has 81,000 files in it.
And they are .SPV files which only open with an exceptionally expensive program IBM SPSS
cool
I can only imagine thats wrong and its "Shander ? Vulkan"
In any case its more mess than I'm willing to tackle right now
hushed bronze
@hearty wasp What I mean is that its a nightmare code wall 81 thousand files long that I don't even know how to open and I'm not even a programmer
So for me, that would be exceptionally ambitious and time consuming when I still need lots of time toward school for now
BUT in case you don't already know about it, here'/s a page that can probably get anyone rolling toward this goal
https://vulkan-tutorial.com/Drawing_a_triangle/Graphics_pipeline_basics/Shader_modules
hearty wasp
didn't say it's not retarded 
thin viper
People have tried and it doesn't compile back properly. So ๐คท
hushed bronze
The SDK cant compile these files?
hushed bronze
I guess I'll just have to hope that programmers who know what they're doing in this zone take up the challenge ๐
steel crypt
Okay, so people have decompiled, and it is shader code like it was before? Only problem is compile?
hushed bronze
Based on what I see in the SDK tutorial, If you open the files with the SDK after decompiling, its recognizable shader code. I think the issue is then saving the altered SPV and putting it back in a .pak
....which probably hinges on whether monkeyman decides he's willing to update the MBIN compiler for SPV's
@steel crypt
omg im so tired
steel crypt
Oh, so we can recompile the SPV file, but the SPV file can't be compiled by mbincompiler?
hushed bronze
Why did I sleep for three hours
Yeah the compiler has never been used with or intended for SPV files so its not really a surprise that it chokes
thin viper
Unchanged spv won't compile back to what came with vanilla
hushed bronze
Fortunately theres a lot we can do without shader access in the meantime
thin viper
So it's definitely a custom tweaked sdk that was used to make the shaders
hushed bronze
Unfortunately that means we're stuck with vignette and scanlines lol
thin viper
They removed it?
hushed bronze
No the way Vignette and Scanlines were handled was through BIN shader files, which have been entirely thrown out for the new Vulkan stuff
So those mods dont work and we cant make a new one at the moment
steel crypt
I am stupid, forgive me. So, there is a SPV file in a pak and we can decompile the SPV file (assuming we are using some kind of SDK for SPV crap?) and then we recompile using the SDK and it not the same? What does mbincompiler have to do with it? I am obviously not understanding this LOL. Anyone want one more try at it? haha
heavy merlin
Exactly.
hushed bronze
BTW the shader files in the old version have a note thart says "copyright 2008"
Dear god did they start development of this thing in '08??
steel crypt
okay, only issue is SPV recompile. How do we know it's not the same? In what way? Is it a header issue? Or just f-broke and don't work in-game?
hushed bronze
Its not something we can handle. I wouldn't worry about it right now, jason
heavy merlin
Nah, they obviously reused headers and didn't update stuff.
hushed bronze
anyway, here's SL and V on experimental
hearty wasp
nothing says cyberpunk like... slave trading?
obsidian tree
As Jason said, mbincompiler has nothing to do with the shaders
brazen pumice
so do any of lo2k mods work?
obsidian tree
Sure they are a binary format now, but recompilation and decompilation is now on whatever sdk is used for that
And I'd guess not but I havent tried
hushed bronze
monkeyman cnat do it. We're hosed X_X
obsidian tree
I havent look but people who know more about that stuff than I do have...
lime mesa
This mod is nice
Those two are my screenshots
I just installed it rn and I don't feel like going back to normal clouds
hushed bronze
Grass Fix for clouds lol
hearty wasp
good luck when the vulcan update goes to the main branch when HG fucks you in the ass by blocking us out of shaders then
hearty shuttle
Are we able to mod in our own ships yet?
would love to have my own Space Engineers Ships in NMS lol https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1511128628
hearty shuttle
doesnt that screw up multiplayer though?
hearty wasp
see the documentation regarding modding behaviour in mp environments here https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/824?tab=images
steel crypt
v1.77.10
Added 3 new water colors.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968
lime mesa
yay
smoky wing
purty water
lime mesa
@lime mesa that cloud mod is pretty nice
steel crypt
Rip shader mods......๐ข .....WE WILL FIND A WAY ๐......maybe?
hushed bronze
Maybe.
steel crypt
Yeah, haven't had time to look at the compiler situation. We'll see....๐ค
hushed bronze
You headlight-cranking, message-deleting monster.
lime mesa
Is there a mod to remove scanlines for the vulcan build?
hearty wasp
can't
hushed bronze
@lime mesa It was cut down by the new shaders which cant be compiled properly yet, so no
hearty wasp
a couple girders and metal bars later
hushed bronze
So I just spent an hour scratching my head why none of my mods were making any changes
Turns out I forgot that the "recompile step was a thing"
So I didnt recompile a damn thing for an hour
lime mesa
๐
hushed bronze
Ive accidentally turned the weird ugly outcroppings into regular rock in my newest experiments lol
copper pollen
Not bad at all!
steel crypt
@hushed bronze hey, that looks cool!
smoky wing
@hushed bronze New tile types arrangements?
oh no wait, that's just for colors isn't it
hushed bronze
no
smoky wing
cool tho
hushed bronze
hearty shuttle
has anyone added in "Halo" Rings as planets yet? xD
hushed bronze
Ever wondered what would haoppen if I fused Grass fix into Redmas' Fantasy Worlds mod?
hushed bronze
solid fog
has anyone looked into the experimental branch shaders yet?
guessing they're shipped as SPIR-V
hushed bronze
Yep they're .SPV and they don't compile properly with our current/existing mod tools
solid fog
any decent SPIR-V decompilers out there?
hushed bronze
It doesn't matter, there's apperently something custom about the ones found in NMS files
At least thats what the author of our mbin compiler said
solid fog
hushed bronze
HAte to say it but for the time being, you'll have to be content with modding ourtside the realm of shaders
unless you're a professional programmer or something maybe
hearty wasp
just sneak into HG's office and take their custom shader program 
solid fog
writing their own SPIR-V compiler sounds.... weird
hushed bronze
Im not sure they did....
solid fog
any chance somebody could chuck me a random shader? i have no idea how to extract this archive format
hushed bronze
Im more willing to bet the MBIN compiler just isn't fully prepped for uit
which would make sense nobody had any idea vulkan was coming till they dropped it in experimental
steel crypt
mbincompiler is not dealing with the SPV files. mbincompiler is dealing with .mbin files. A SDK for the SPV files is compiling it. There are many options for compiling/decompiling. It gets a little deep.
@solid fog sorry, I don't have a copy of experimental, or I would pass you a file. I want one myself, so I can look at it too.
If anyone has a SPV file......
My guess would be it is just not being done right...but I don't know shite.....
I would just be trippy if they customed one.
hushed bronze
Monkeyman mentioned that SPV's extracted, left untouched, and re-packed.... don't work.
Im not a coder, so I'm not qualified to assert anything about that
steel crypt
Right, but they were doing that with the SDK for SPV. There are a lot of options.....hold on a sec.
hushed bronze
You don't need to explain to me, that stuff is out of my reach anyway
steel crypt
https://www.khronos.org/spir/
It's a hell of a read.....LOL
Shit it will take me a week just to read the SDK docs.
obsidian tree
@hushed bronze just fyi I dont know anything about the new shader format. So maybe dont go saying I am saying things about it that I am pretty sure I didnt say :) I dont think what you said is incorrect, just that I dont think I said it...
hearty wasp
p sure it was either greg or seekker
obsidian tree
yeah, I am keen to look into the issue, but I have lots of ideas for stuff to do with mbincompiler and nmsdk. The mbincompiler I hope to quite useful and handy to quite a few people ๐
steel crypt
It's a little bit of a read, and I don't really have time right now. Damn.....who knows a vulkan guy?
Maybe this guy?
hearty wasp
now for something completely different
feel like people would notice if I just put one giant glass there so I might as well do 6
hushed bronze
@obsidian tree NP I'll just keep my mouth shit on the subject since im pretty much clueless either way
hearty wasp
just invest more time into the modding discord
tame mica
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
hushed bronze
If anyone Downloaded standard version Grass Fix 2 in the last four-ish hours, you got an .nmf (useless) file. I have uploaded the correct file now
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1005?tab=files
hushed bronze
Ever wanted to just make everything grassy forever and ever?
Introducing.... "The Carpet Bomber"!
stuck geyser
Are buildings grass-covered
solid fog
nah was just asking what Jason needed a Vulkan guy for
hearty wasp
probably for the shader in spv or whateverthefuck file extension they're in
they been tryin to decompile and recompile dem shaders to make dem mods work again
hearty wasp
Btw what'd be a nice cyberpunk thing to advertise
Tryna make some 3d hologram blade runner-esque billboards
sacred frigate
hearty wasp
I can just make a giant version of the scanner in game I guess lol
I gotta figure out how to make some good hologram textures too
Cos the holograms in game are hot garbage
rotund vine
The kind of draw distance fog unmodded post-next needs as well
hallow pumice
Any good terrain mods?
rotund vine
Back to Foundation
hearty wasp
hearty wasp
not sure if pri or sec colours look better
I found some other neon signs as well so I can export em later too
should add up to a workable cyberpunk bunch
wicked spear
there is any mod with vulkan support to make the water actually good?
steel crypt
What is good water?
north nebula
has anyone run across a mod that increases stack size that works, or doesn't randomly revert if there's an update? I've been using the java based save game editor to "enhance" a bit of my current game, mostly fixing things like lock up roll backs and other bugs. I can easily increase the number of storage slots, i've tested it and it works, but i'd rather stay within the storage constraints and just have much... MUCH larger stack sizes....
plucky shadow
@north nebula That editor can change stack size
ive heard players talk about having 10K storage slots in the exosuit cargo if they wanted with a java based editor
north nebula
Yeah, but that big red warning makes me hesitate... but if that's the best option then I'll probably try it out.
hushed bronze
@north nebula I've heard about nothing but problems from messing with stack sizes since as long as people have been messing with stack sizes. Probably best to just not do that
I don't love it either but thats the truth of it
north nebula
well I backed up my game files so I'll give it ago and see what happens... I've gotten myself to the point where I'm just gathering mats to make stuff to make cash for future upgrades... so if the stacks revert and I loose a bunch of resources it's not a huge thing... not like loosing a freighter or anything...
hushed bronze
Well I guess if you re-backup every now and then, you can revert if it screws up. Be an easy reason to use manual saves
smoky wing
@wicked spear Shader mods are not currently possible in Vulkan, so no.
obsidian tree
I have just pushed all the most recent changes I have made to NMSDK to the Experimental branch.
This includes all the functionality for importing models into blender.
There is still a fair bit of work to go before the proper 1.0.0 release (current version is 0.9.6...)
https://github.com/monkeyman192/NMSDK
If people could have a play around with it and let me know how it goes it would be greatly appreciated!!! ๐
(This will allow you to import the ship models from the game directly into blender which can make it really easy to 3d print them ๐ )
magic lava
Nice!
lime mesa
Oh what, that's cool AF.
obsidian tree
it is a fair bit slower than the model viewer. I have tried to optimise it as much as possible, but I am not quite sure what I can do to speed it up more. The first time opening a scene is always longer than the second time unless you have already decompiled the scene files. Once you have already imported a scene it uses the converted exml files instead of converting the mbin files again
oh shit, I forgot this update works best with an update of mbincompiler I haven't pushed yet...
whoops...
:S
exotic violet
Nexus still the best place to download mods?
steel crypt
Yep. As far as best place goes. It's the "pro modder" site. LOL
hushed bronze
@exotic violet There's a worthy second in Nomansskymods.com or w/e
But it pretty much ends with those two
steel crypt
๐ Thank you
hushed bronze
@steel crypt Hey jason I have a mystery you might have a clue on (Aren't you the one trying to port legacy texture sets?)
Basically I have abn odd phenomenon occuring in zones of Grass Main and Grass Alt colors
I vastly expanded the areas affected by the alternating colors but its offered an unexpected clue - in the large areas where the Alt is dominant, the texture that should be that grass subtexture is matching the rock, all on its own
Top, you see the saturated green undergrass, bottom, similar situation but no grass-colored subtexture anywhere
and this is consistent throughout any such space anywhere in those respective regions
I also notice that the distinctive sort of "fossilized starfish" imprint that occurs in the grass Primary textures is missing in the Grass Alt ares, leading me to believe it may be a different texture, also
If we can crack this it means I can match slopepower to grass angle properly and create a seamless illusion as well as the best aesthetic
steel crypt
Okay (not at pc) so maybe the grass and grass alt use different textures (I don't know) and that can change the hue but.....is that actually rock or is it the grass under texture and if it is actually grass texture then I don't understand what is making it color the same as rock...?
Try it maybe with a different color and see what happens
hushed bronze
Im wondering if there's something to do with a rock alt, or maybe if alt color zones actually just desaturate colors that dont have an alt (I've also noticed that the rocky texture is always a perfect grey even if its brownish in the primary color zones) and I've already seen this phenomenon happen in a bunch of different color sets @steel crypt
supple wadi
i half-wonder if there are some HG lurkers bewildered at our prolonged focus on figuring out how they handle colors
exotic violet
@hushed bronze thanks mate
steel crypt
@supple wadi Yes.....I am an international man of mystery.
hearty wasp
they'd be laughing at us crying about shader mods first
steel crypt
@hushed bronze My guess goes like this: There is a ground texture and a blade texture. They both use the same color from the palette. The grass ground texture and the grass blade texture have different HSV values. Blade grass itself because of grass type having different textures might have HSV differences also. I know that the ground color vs blade color is always different. I know they use the same palette entry for color. They are using the same shaders. The only thing that I can think of that would then make the color different is texture HSV values or some other control (which I have never seen).
Texture HSV values and how they affect color is tricky. I have learned some things about it. But it is not static. The way the texture color affects the eventual outcome depends on context of many things.
For instance, you could have a texture color of say (I'm explaining this in a very basic generic way LOL) purple and your palette color is orange, and the outcome in game can be orange. At the same time, you can have a purple (yet slightly blue) texture and apply the same orange palette color, and the result is very light blue. This is with all other things such as shaders etc. being equal. With some colors (palette) the blades might be the same color, but the ground is shifted (because of texture HSV) and it can be a different hue. With a different color (palette), the blades might be the same color as palette (again), but the ground is not as much of a different hue as before. This can happen because of the relation (variance) in the palette vs texture HSV. The variance being closer or further away has a different impact on the resulting color.
That rock colored area might just be that way because that is how that color works out with that ground texture. That's why I was saying try a different (vastly different if possible) color to see what happens.
I'm also not positive I'm understanding fully what you're seeing. ๐
hushed bronze
I dont fully understand what Im seeing either, but Im trying to. The ultimate goal for me with Grass Fix would be to completely neutralize the grass-ground texture where there is not grass
Thanks for your Input ๐
dapper venture
With the grass fix mod I find grass vertically and upside down around caves. I think its great
hushed bronze
I think you're talking about the "Carpet Bomber" verion @dapper venture
hearty wasp
now this is cyberpunk
lime mesa
Holy shit dude.
hearty wasp
that's like 2 weeks of work lmfao
still wanna add more neon signs but I gotta find a way to source more first
lime mesa
I love your commitment tbh and that end result is freaking beautiful.
gusty stone
put a little noodle stand like in Bladerunner and put your korvax npc guy behind a counter like he's serving
hearty wasp
I actually have plans for basic wall sized counters for that
but I'd want some more... cybernetic food
whatever that fucking is
gusty stone
iron fortified nanite infused smart food. helps you digest food and absorb the nutrients you need while blocking the stuff that doesn't help or is harmful. if you subscribe to the bonus package of Super Cyberfoods, it'll even do regular checkups of your body to insure optimal performance.
no need to worry about overeating lasagna or snack cakes, just get the cybernetic food versions and eat as much and whatever you want and you're guaranteed to be in tip top shape.
with the bodybuilders plugin you can have nanites work out your muscles and maintain peak muscle mass and muscle tone without ever having to lift a thing.
smoky wing
I dunno man, that's what they told the Gek...
smoky wing
Well that's interesting. In BIOMEFILENAMES.EXML I replaced the Dead Filename with ...TOXIC/TOXICBIOME.MXML. It seems to spawn atmosphereless Toxic worlds with the TOXICOBJECTSDEAD settings, which otherwise I've never seen Next use.
smoky wing
Okay, presumably that's because of the "ChooseUsingLifeLevel" flag. Which suggests that value is set internally for the dead biome before the biome definition (and no longer seems to be possible on non-dead biomes). I suspect the same is true for the lack of atmosphere, because I'm not having luck finding a setting for that in the exmls.
glass eagle
Any mods that increase inventory limits and make button actions happen immediately instead of waiting 3 seconds?
smoky wing
Fast Actions https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/624
There's various inventory / stack size mods on there too, some should still be compatible
full creek
Do all mods work in multiplayer? Or are there limits?
hushed bronze
The great majority will work
I couldn't think of a single one that doesn't without searching for one@full creek
Thats not to say things wont get screwy if you and you're buddy are running two diifferent terrain generations
full creek
Ah ok, thanks @hushed bronze
hushed bronze
I did it. I got a thing.
gusty stone
grats
stuck geyser
"not the cloud shadow, ignore that"
That's the only thing I can see now
smoky wing
A lighting control?
smoky wing
I made a mod to lighten up the cloud shadows a bit. Looks better IMHO, but was very annoying to work on because it mods the main lighting shader so every restart did the loooong loading shaders thing.
And of course it'll only be useable until Vulkan takes over ๐
lime mesa
@hushed bronze What does each grass fix version do? There's the normal high ludicrous and honestly I want to go for ludicrous but don't want to destroy performance
hushed bronze
@lime mesa in the grass fixes, the levels correspond to spawning radius of grass. If you remember geometry at all radius squared times pi is Area so an increase of radius from 40 u in normal to 200 u in ludicrous is a massive multiplier
Actually I think I went with 144 or something
Still tho
It's roughly 5k square u vs. 65k
hushed bronze
Exosolar has a few good ones ๐
@manic ember I would send them straight to you in PM but its not working
manic ember
ah ya I have PM disabled
hearty wasp
we don't do mod packs here
manic ember
fair
hushed bronze
@hearty wasp I normally drop my suggestions in PM but he had it blocked so what can I do
But I also recommend just surfing nexus and just having a look at any mod that seems remotely interesting
The ones I dropped there are all no-impact on performance and mildly visual
Lights.pak is the only one thats mine int hat grioup. it putts some extra wattage in the standing lights@manic ember
hearty wasp
I'm talking more about the all-in-one packs
manic ember
are mod packs created by unofficial third parties who give no credit? i hate it when people do that
steam has a thing against that kind of practice
so does minecraft
hushed bronze
Some people don't give credits but I mean its pretty obvious to anyone with a clue that HG made the core game and deserves all of that credit, it really goes without saying
hearty wasp
most of them didn't ask for permission either
hushed bronze
As far as mod vs. mod, a lot of modders break open older mods to learn how to do something, and the original guy may have grown sick of NMS two years ago and is nowhere to be found, and certainly isn't responding to PM's about permission to reference their little 1-hour project from two years ago
manic ember
lets see if i can download these.
hushed bronze
Some modders do their best to give all the appropriate credit and some don't
hearty wasp
we are a bit more conscious about it nowadays
since it's easier to scan for dupes and shitty "updated mods" on Nexus and NMSmods
hushed bronze
oh shit you guys are talking about flat out theft lol
Here I was thinking "give credit to monkeyman for the compiler" lol
hearty wasp
The early days are p fucked in that regard
west notch
@lime mesa Does your NMS Fantasy mod have the mountains we can see in this video? Loving your mod so far
manic ember
hey so
i put the paks in the mod folder
but i donโt think it modified the game. is there another step I need to do?
hearty wasp
have you deleted disablemods.txt
manic ember
ah perhaps not. where do i find that? @hearty wasp
hearty wasp
1 level out of mods folder
manic ember
thanks!
hearty wasp
the best neon signs you'll ever see in this game
srsly cos one of em has like 50k tris
lime mesa
"Broken Social Scene Coffee"
hearty wasp
yep that might be a real place
these are all just exported pre-made models someone else made but I know at least 2 of the signs are of real places
also most of em flickers
lime mesa
I should start playing with mods, the stuff I see here is just honestly amazing.
I got a few ideas using them neons already.
hearty wasp
cool
I'm still organising ideas for the Project Facade Cyberpunk build and I dunno if I'll go thru with that or just switch to doing something else
olive shoal
hushed bronze
I'm amazed how few DL's my filter flipper has lol, it just adds the weird filters as possibilites on the barren exotics
Its one of the least intrusive mods around
hearty wasp
most of the people only care about a very specific range of aspects in this game
hearty wasp
I think it's literally listed in the mod page
steel crypt
Mod idea: Land waves....discuss......you're welcome.
Imagine that shit in VR ๐
Someone needs to send an invite to Sean. This is a world class think tank.
lime mesa
Any programmers want to work with me to create a mod pack? Iโm a 3D environment artist
hushed bronze
@lime mesa I'm not sure what TP is talking about there. I think he took your phrasing a bit too literally or something
@steel crypt Land waves is now priority one. All modders drop what you're doing and figure out how to make NMS mountains do The Nightmare Before Christmas
hearty wasp
I'm taking mod packs as a pack of mods from other people lol
if they'd elaborate on the idea it'd be a lot clearer
lime mesa
Remember that dude that re-created a Nightmare Before Christmas scene?
That one ๐
hushed bronze
@hearty wasp I think its clear from what she said that her idea has nothing to do with bundling stolen mods
hearty wasp
you never know, and "mod pack" just has the same meaning in every other modding scene I know of so it can get confusing
hushed bronze
She asked for a programmer and said she was an asset creator
lime mesa
Why would you even assume the content would be stolen unless you're just being cynical
Really friendly community in no man sky afterall
hushed bronze
I dunno but ofc none of the modders are cool with stolen mod work, that should go without saying
hearty wasp
lmao I didn't specify "stolen"
lime mesa
I'm an artist, I create stuff but I can't code, I don't steal https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487957137411145729/511704161847476237/ss2018-11-13at11.48.30.jpg
hearty wasp
I said "mods from other people" which means people can ask for permission and attribution ๐
hushed bronze
We should ditch the initial misunderstanding, its dumb and has nothing to do with the goals in question...
hushed bronze
Anyway ofc I can't make your decisions for you but it seems to me you could make a good team
lime mesa
I want to see things like this in No man sky, a planter of bushes
something I can put in my frieghter
hearty wasp
that's p easy I can do that
lime mesa
I would make all of the assets, just need htem to be programmed
hearty wasp
btw if you made some wild bushes / trees gamer will probably be glad to take em too
lime mesa
like, stuff for random gen on planets?
hushed bronze
yes
lime mesa
I can make a bunch of tree packs
hearty wasp
ye
hushed bronze
Don't rush though, learn some stuff about LOD both in the general sense and the NMS-specific sense that gamer could know about
Some games, LOD is full auto but I don't know if the NMS engine does anything like that
hushed bronze
Too much snow
lime mesa
Snow?
lime mesa
If you mean fuz that's because it's a quick render with low samples
hearty wasp
that's ash
hearty wasp
anyway we can get more details figured out in the modding discord if you want
or you can just dm us or wahtever
lime mesa
DM sounds good
I have experience working with indie game studios, I generally create props and environments, buildings, landscape etc
this is some of my unfinished work in my portfolio, it's there because of grey box
hushed bronze
Well I don't think these guys can/will pay you , if thats an issue
hearty wasp
I can't even pay myself
lime mesa
I didn't think mods were paid?
hushed bronze
Ofc you can't any payment you make to yourself would also be deducted from yourself
lime mesa
I don't suppoort paid mods
hushed bronze
Mods aren't paid,
lime mesa
It would be free, was just saying I have experiuence
hushed bronze
But you seem to be professional to some extent, so I wanted to make that clear
lime mesa
Never worked for a tripple a studio, only indie
hushed bronze
So you're used to not being paid?
lime mesa
although I might have a job ad cdprojektred next year L)
hushed bronze
lol I kid
lime mesa
ye haha, I'm use to not being paid
hushed bronze
next year? Why not now?
hushed bronze
Well I'll just say I've been close to a lot of people getting into competitive job slots and you can't count on companies that don't immediately hire you for anything
lime mesa
I know some people from the studio, itโs not garaunteed but they liked my work and told me to apply when they open jobs
hushed bronze
if they don't give you employment forms, then they haven't promised anything, even if the people you talked to were not being deceptive
lime mesa
Their are forms, I can apply now but theyโre not taking people until then
Checkout their website
hushed bronze
So yeah, Im mostly just saying "stay vigilant" dont count that as anything resembling a sure thing
lime mesa
Im not, I generally do freelance work now days
Iโve not worked for an indie studio in a while due to some mental issues
hushed bronze
Do you have a Spacemouse?
hushed bronze
Elite. Right here, this girl
lime mesa
Lol, sorry my nickname is just mouse
obsidian tree
@lime mesa if you are interested in adding models to the game I have developed a blender plugin which does just that - https://github.com/monkeyman192/NMSDK
I still need to do a little bit more work on the documentation to make it more obvious how to do stuff, but if you are already familiar with blender then that is most of the battle.
It exports pretty much everything you need for it to be in the game.
Re; making a resource pack, this is something that I have been trying to push people to adopt more widely, but it is mainly only for resources added like extra custom objects (such as custom content like you would be making). The idea is that you would make a mod that itself does nothing; it just contains all the models etc that you have created, then you or someone else can make a separate mod which actually implements the objects into the game. This way your mod can be used by anyone, and anyone wishing to use it simply tells people to download your mod so that they can have the resources ๐
lime mesa
Awesome ๐ @obsidian tree
magic lava
Awesome
echo oxide
hearty wasp
I really need someone to build some great rooftop bridges / crossbeams for a screenshot
cos this just ain't gonna work for shit
btw
hushed bronze
Wooo you did the hexagonal lights! (and those other ones, too)
I knew you were cool
hearty wasp
I realised I need some fluorescent tube lights to help the cyberpunk look so I just did the whole folder cos I might as well lmao
hearty wasp
probably should lower this into the ground right
steel crypt
You have to now, just so I can have a comparison pic
hearty wasp
sure I did done it few hours back
stiff terrace
Hello ! I tried to install few mods and this one is not working : Deepspace (from nexus)
Could you tell me if there is a mod like this one please? https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/71?tab=images
hearty wasp
Space Dream
also try to not download something from Aug 2016 next time, sort by last updated
steel crypt
I think it might contain shader stuff.
lime mesa
@west notch hello, you will have the same montains if you use the same terrain mod he is using in his video. ๐ the mod sounds great. I recommand to test any terrain changing mod on a different save that your main one though.
west notch
The one modifying terrain is the thegamer3006 mod? Because DIVERSE ENVIRONMENTS is a cool mod, but the problems with cts and draw distance make the game unplayable
Thanks for answering, Redmas
lime mesa
i am not sure, if it is this one. But for use with my mod it is better if the terrain mod that makes high cliffs only changes voxel and not the biomes objects spawn
looks like this one, but this one, is outdated https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/291
west notch
Thanks, Redmas
lime mesa
but i think the vanilla terrain has pretty high cliff as well
signal pawn
any mods to combine storage units?
hearty wasp
no
hearty wasp
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/367
https://nomansskymods.com/mods/eucli-ea-more-buildable-decorations-next-edition/
Crossing the 1k line and still getting fucked everyday no problem
Also update to Tesseraction I guess https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/999
https://nomansskymods.com/mods/tesseraction-angled-basic-wall-and-floor-snapping/
hearty wasp
btw this
kindred birch
Does anybody know of a mod or config file that gives you Discoveries summary information? I want to track how many systems and planets I've discovered and claimed, as well as number of Fauna and Flora scanned and how many bases I've built, maybe beacons placed too...
.
pearl torrent
It says all that when you open trade terminals.
hearty wasp
prepare for DฬงฬทาอฬนฬOฬงาอกาฬบฬผฬณOฬตฬตฬขMฬจออ
pearl torrent
O_O
kindred birch
it does?
pearl torrent
That is the one squadron I'm not messing with.
Yes, all the info is above the interactive options.
kindred birch
hehehe
they don't need weapons, they'll scare you to death or just 'steam roll' right over you...
pearl torrent
Warps out of the system.
kindred birch
Well I'll be... there it is
It says I 'collected' 212 planets!
and walked 464km! ๐
hearty wasp
I'm struggling between keeping the crane as the walker or just mal forming another thomas
obsidian tree
are they proc? Can you just do both?
hearty wasp
I haven't dabbled with proc stuff like ever
If it's as simple as doing one descriptor file I might try
obsidian tree
you can do it in NMSDK even ๐
hearty wasp
ah ok
obsidian tree
and I'm working on some stuff that may make it even easier ๐
re: my re-working of reference nodes etc
so you could just import the 2 objects into blender, make them both reference nodes, which are the child of the main node, and then just specify that the main scene is proc-gen and give them prefixes and it will export them to separate scenes
but that is a little way off still
hearty wasp
can I use existing objects for the reference nodes for now
hidden robin
can you send more thomas photage plesa
hearty wasp
ok
weary magnet
Anyone happen to know about a mod that removes the photo mode boundary?
hearty wasp
Mjjstral has it in his modbuilder page I think
weary magnet
How would I find that?
hearty wasp
nexus
cyan oracle
@hearty wasp looks like you're pretty close to picking up where I left off.. ๐
also, anyone able to tell me if HG is still pushing updates each week?
hearty wasp
depends on if I have enough time to be arsed to actually fixing MoarShips
they're pushing vulcan updates here and there
cyan oracle
@hearty wasp I just meant importing new ships into game.. pretty sure you'd need to re-export my ships from blender with the updated NMSDK to make them compatible.. I maybe converted half a dozen over before the frequent updates broke me like a stubborn horse..
obsidian tree
@hearty wasp you have been able to do that for a while now...
hearty wasp
let me dump some more mundane screenies in here
walker loot drop
chopper pilot
dead walker debris
failed attempt at a proc gen quad
drone loot drop
quad loot drop
normal drone
also when you get a normal wanted level since the ships spawn at the same place you get mostly the same trains
hearty wasp
I need a break
brittle zinc
what about crashed freighters
thin valve
What about train stations
hushed bronze
Why are you going so nutty with Thomas the Train? lol
hearty wasp
I don't half ass a meme
crashed freighters are actually not hard to edit but I dunno what I can do with it lol
unless you want me to make it into a train station
in that case I dunno what the fuck I'm suppose to make of it
hearty wasp
tbh I add the trains into the current ship pools
lime mesa
LMAO this is just fucking madness.
hearty wasp
but I wanna wait until I can be arsed to update MoarShips altogether
magic lava
Lol
hearty wasp
which is probably never at this point
magic lava
You should send some of these screens to HG
lime mesa
It's the most ridiculous thing ever but it's brilliant.
magic lava
Agreed
hearty wasp
I'm posting them one by one on Facebook now and Imma do the same for twitter tmr
I might also see if I can get into sound editing for the choo choo sounds
magic lava
Lol
magic lava
Yes
hushed bronze
@hearty wasp As far as the crashed freighter, just scrap the "crashed" thing and make it the train station flat out.
Or the Quarry
Yes my memory goes back 27 years lol
@hearty wasp Serious question, and I aplogize for not being properly informed: Is it currently possible to export a native NMS model, modify it, and re-import? Your work as of late seems to say yes
Also, is it possible to change, re-map, or replace the textures also?
Only 13 more days before I can mod in earnest again ๐
obsidian tree
@hushed bronze my work on NMSDK is working towards exactly that ๐
obsidian tree
and I think my progress on updating the export system is going well so I think importing > modifying >exporting with blender will be a reality quite soon ๐
it's essentially the feature* I want for the 1.0 release ๐
hushed bronze
Fantastic!
I just hope Beyond's release doesn't totally rape it to bits
lime mesa
Could change how crashed freighters generate
hearty wasp
yeah I can just make it another set of descriptor children
stone token
I can't even get into a random game. is this game dead?
hearty wasp
wrong channel
I wanna know what effects I should use in Audition to emulate the exosuit voice lol
lone spire
I'm pretty sure the exosuit voice is some kind of text to speech. I say this because they have lines recorded for all languages
hearty wasp
yeah but they still have used some modulation/reverb to make it more robot
anyway here's my attempt
smoky wing
So I re-enabled the old infrastructure parts for building. That was easy, and they appear fine, but the snapping is strange. The corner post doesn't snap to anything but itself. However, the wall parts have no problem snapping to the posts if I build the posts first. So any insight into why they work in one direction but not the other?
hearty wasp
I wrote about it in the wiki
smoky wing
I found your section on object snapping. Still doesn't explain the Next weirdness tho. Looking at the exml & in modelviewer, all the snap points seem setup correctly for bidirectional snapping (unless I'm missing something).
I didn't want to add anything new, just reactivate these existing objects for building. Being valid vanilla objects, other people should be able to see them without a mod.
smoky wing
Oo oh, I getcha, I missed that part in the description. Okay. Alright, I should be able to add some snappoints in the same spot for the other direction then. Glad it's only a few parts.
smoky wing
Looks like 1.38 handled it differently, because so far I'm seeing the same snappoints on those objects there. Weird
hearty wasp
nop I updated the wiki on 1.5
stuck geyser
Don't
hushed bronze
@hearty wasp Addition of human feet is only appropriate for the floating drone
smoky wing
@hearty wasp Yup, I see that your wiki info describes the behavior of the current system, that was very helpful once I read it more carefully. I meant that in 1.38 the snapping behavior was different, bi-directional, yet the model file's snappoints are actually the same as they are now.
Was easy to get that corner post fixed now, just duplicated (and rotated) the side snappoints to be wall_in ones. Didn't need to touch the other infra parts. There are some other missing/changed connections now though, like with cuberooms and ladders. I may try to fix those. Really I just want to be able to build with those pieces again, and hopefully have others see the results without mods. Not that I have anything against building mods! ๐
obsidian tree
NMSDK is getting closer to import > modify > export ๐
will hopefully have a 1.0beta release within the next few days ๐
smoky wing
kewl, I'm gonna hafta reinstall Blender... been quite a while since I used it
ashen solstice
Is there a mod that let's you delete ships you have collected? Accidentally hit 5/6 and I'm scared I'll lock out other ships from landing in my freighter.
heavy merlin
I think you can do that with the save editor
Well, you definitely can, manually. I forget if it has an easy way to do it though.
hearty wasp
what if I add feet
onto the trains
and then make it a separate version
called "Enhanced Edition"
hushed bronze
Modding is amoral
Trains with feet are amoral
Winder has gone full-blown Skyrim with his mods lol
hushed bronze
@smoky wing @hearty wasp Making build parts that are much much larger regular walls or floors could be great for large builds
smoky wing
They would be. I'm way out of practice with modeling though. I just started playing with editing snapping points by text. Winder's got some larger resizes of base parts in eucli-ea though.
hushed bronze
I'm not talkin 'bout resizes....
I'm talking about pieces made for the job, not stitched together or scaled up from others
That said though I can't touch it till post-semester anyway...
smoky wing
I'm guessing, based on that old survey/roadmap, that better base building is going to be part of Beyond. So, probably better to wait anyway - see what's in there so ya don't waste the effort.
I'm thinking a nice addition would be some basic parts that are resizable in game. Like a wall you could stretch out to the dimensions you need and it would adjust accordingly.
Could also be used to reduce some details, which could help with bigger builds. For instance, being able to place one huge seamless wall, instead of a dozen individual small ones.
hushed bronze
I seriously doubt they're gonna drop eight-floor prefabs even if better base building happens
What I have in mind is mainly about huge frameworks so people can build fairly large without utterly wrecking thier systems
Even PC's can't hold up against 6,367 tiny parts
noble hare
are there any mods that can unlock the third person camera from the spaceship? or at least just when the flight is rolling
hearty wasp
it's called the quick menu?
hushed bronze
I think he means making the camera not roll with the ship, staying level
hearty wasp
oh ok
lime mesa
No sorry I don't think that's possible @noble hare
hearty wasp
I mean there could be a parameter that defines how much lag the camera movement has
but I haven't read too much in to the file to confirm or deny anything
sacred meadow
is there a mod to make the instrument panel not looked washed in your starship cockpit?
hearty wasp
there are lotta texture replacers on both Nexus and NMSmods
for ship hud shit even some of the old ones should still work so just look for retextures
sacred meadow
hmm nexus mods doesn't appear to have it
hearty wasp
oh wait nexus doesn't actually store the searched text in the url
just search ship huds or whatever
idle gazelle
Is there a scanline removal mod for the vulkan/test build patch? Having fun but scan lines are meh lol
hushed bronze
I don't think so, at least not yet
The advanced modders who make that stuff possible probably don't want to put in potentially wasted work on experimental branch
idle gazelle
May have to try and figure it out myself then xD
Not a, "modder" perse but I'm sure I could try and figure it out... maybe it will lead somewhere, maybe no where but it's a fun project xD
smoky wing
If it's a shader-dependent effect, then there's nothing anyone can do about it ATM. Clever folks may crack the issue in the future, but for now it's not possible to successfully mod vulkan shaders.
hushed bronze
@idle gazelle theres lots of modding you can do but going after the shaders is off the table for now if you're not an advanced programmer
exotic violet
Has anyone ever tried adding more freighter mission logs?
hushed bronze
I think that one would be pretty easy... but it's also kinda pointless, unless, maybe... it might be a good teacher if those logs mentioned distinctly which type of event they are, because even going on an exploration expedition you will get some random rolls toward other types like combat and mining and a lot of people have real trouble figuring that out, and have this ongoing problem with frigates being damaged because they send out nothing that could handle an alternative encounter type and there's nothing to clarify what the problem is
I've noted this in my personal list ๐ Now that I think it through, it sounds helpful, actually
hearty wasp
hearty wasp
hearty wasp
imagine you're playing single player GTA
smoky wing
Lol
hushed bronze
Make them run in terror and scream Gek profanities
exotic violet
@hushed bronze yeah I have limited experience modding but it seemed like it could be as simple as adding new text, Iโll take a look tonight maybe
hushed bronze
@hearty wasp Pretty sure ive seen move speeds in globals, dunno details or even if I'm mistaken or not but maybe that helps
lime mesa
But he's correcting what you said
hearty wasp
but I didn't say anything about who said the lines @lime mesa
lime mesa
K
smoky wing
Ugh, trying to tweak building snappoints can be frustrating. Atlas Rises definitely handled them differently while building, object links were one-directional, but in-game it checked both directions. Now it doesn't, so I'm getting things like only being able to build wall stacks upward but not downward. So I try to add links in the other direction, which works to build downward, but then it also lets you snap a second object to itself in the exact same space. So I try to change the angles of my new links, which prevents that problem, but now the objects can get flipped the wrong ways. Argh!
hushed bronze
Have you reverse engineered tesseraction to learn from what it did?
smoky wing
Nope. I did take a quick look at eucli-ea for some hints, but it was a bit overwhelming in size.
Well I think I got it to work right by using different names for the snappoints going up vs. the snappoints going down. Will have to test more. What a pain.
polar pebble
@hushed bronze Are you sure having points outside of the expedition type matters at all? At first I would always send a combat ship to protect my expeditions, but those expeditions didn't seem to fare any better than just stacking the mission stat.
hushed bronze
@polar pebble Yes, I'm sure, it's configured as such in the game files. also, the secondary expedition types are random, so if you send Combat ships with some Miners, they can just get squashed by an unlucky trader-type encounter
Its not guarantees of anything, but your odds get many times better.
polar pebble
I suppose the fact that no upgraded frigate has 100% specialization in any stat probably helps deal with any sub-expeditions outside of the main type.
hushed bronze
It does help, but when you send 5 Trade ships against a 3 star expedition, you can see how easy it is for someone to both be hit with failed encounters and damage, and also be baffled as to how that could possibly happen
If you have 5 S class trade ships but their average Mining stat is 6.2, then a random encounter with the mining type can wreak havoc anyway
polar pebble
Gotcha. It's definitely a subject of confusion -- everything I'd read on the wikis indicated that stacking the primary stat was the way to go, and that it's all RNG based on the difference of your fleet's star rating and the mission star rating.
hushed bronze
Well, I might need to go deal with that.... could be the source of the damn problem...
Cause I mean.... the odds of non-standard mission types n stuff that I'm talking about are written out in plain text in the code (and can be altered, for that matter)
In other words, Blindly stacking the main stat is pretty much suicide, lol
In short, having a high main stat is important, but having abysmal other stats is a recipe for failure
lone spire
That was totally me that said it was text to speech. Because they would have had to record it in every single language that the suit is voiced in. That's pretty impressive if it was a real person doing all those languages @steady breach
hushed bronze
I'm having a look at the wiki now, and its really quite good and thorough, but it does seem to me the info was collected through ingame (brute-force)
I can see how the above-mentioned dynamic could be overlooked, it's not especially obvious
It's not a mod but I dropped it in my mod notes anyway. (to add the secondary random types into the info on the wiki) It's no wonder this keeps happening...
Well, I mean the suit only says about 12 things, google translate plus certain sites that demonstrate pronunciations of foreign language words could make it actually pretty simple
I'm willing to bet it's not always perfect either, theres a mod on Nexus by a french-speaker who wasn't satisfied by the subpar translations and re-translated a bunch of it himself
That tells me that legit translators weren't always on-hand
I added to the wiki "Game files show that, even during expeditions of any of the four specialist types mentioned above, expeditions will randomly include occasional encounters of other types, which means that all expedition fleets should avoid leaving extreme weaknesses in any stat."
magic lava
๐
lime mesa
Should I add an actual sun with the colors of the sun changing depending on the color in the galaxy map and change the skybox to remove the sun that is static?
then add orbits to planets & moons
hearty wasp
the question should be "can"
hearty wasp
btw I'm so excited for tonight
thin viper
Just call it spa edition
hearty wasp
lol
hearty wasp
I should make a short vid on the Enhanced Edition too but I dunno if that'll spoil the fun of seeing it in-game for the first time
hearty wasp
https://youtu.be/sDlzevSjWVE
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1011/
https://nomansskymods.com/mods/beautiful-sentinels-thomas-and-friends-go-on-a-rampage/
Dอญอฬาอ ฬธอOอฎอญอOอฎฬพอคMอฅฬอซ
hearty wasp
I figured the non-cinematic way would make it more authentic and akin to other Thomas mods
also I still think it's too long but I can't make it shorter without not showing everything from the mod lmao
hearty plover
there is a bugged observer location in my game. it shows up in my teleport list, but not my discovery list. is it possible to mod something so i dont see it
weary ruin
I think it is in your save, under the name 'TeleportEndpoints' as seen in the JSON file of No Man's Sky Save Editor. Backup to save first and proceed with caution...
My best guess
heavy merlin
Yup. Not sure what "observer location" is, but IIRC the names of the teleporter destinations are visible in the save.
heavy merlin
Oh dear... Did you go there?
heavy merlin
Ah yes, I saw you'd got there but I wasn't around when it happened. Good that you managed to escape, many aren't so lucky.
hearty plover
what is that?
heavy merlin
It's a bug
You probably went through a portal, or joined someone's game, and ended up there?
heavy merlin
Someone who got there at some point.
Or maybe his "friend" got there and named the planet after him... Who knows.
hearty plover
๐คฃ
heavy merlin
Actually, if you zip your saves and DM them to me, I'll do it for you.. Probably easier than trying to explain how.
smoky wing
Game could really use a "remove this destination" option. I have a bunch of bases that I visited but will never return to that I wouldn't mind trimming (but am also too lazy to saveedit out).
hushed bronze
I thought bases properly delete from TP lists after a certain update?
heavy merlin
They said deleted bases should... I think people have still had problems with that since though.
brittle ledge
Hi all, just wondering if there is a mod for better in game inventory?
hearty wasp
not really
hushed bronze
@brittle ledge There are some attempts. They tend to be either visual-only or laced with problems
hearty wasp
can't wait for tmr when I can finally make the trains go choo choo
hushed bronze
I need to make a mod that removes scary trains from NMS
magic lava
I need one to make me forget the feet
hushed bronze
Ok, Just ask TP for something so horrifying that the feet will be forgotten
magic lava
Too afraid of what he might think of next
smoky wing
I like the giant Korvax
smoky wing
Anyone happen to have an archive of the SHADERS dir from Foundation or earlier?
hearty wasp
I found a perfect steve head
hushed bronze
@smoky wing You could use the method to install older versions and dig them up yourself?
I dont know, setting up a foundations age mod config might be trickey
smoky wing
Yeah I could, but that's a lot of downloading for one small dir. Especially when anything I might learn won't even be useful after the official Vulkan update drops.
Was just wondering if I could glean something from the old lighting shaders.
steel crypt
Sorry, I no longer have it. Monkey keeps some stuff. You might hit him up for it.
hushed bronze
@hearty wasp replace the floaty shop ball with CL4PTR4P
hushed bronze
The hovering store shpere in trade Outposts
hearty wasp
oh ok
can I have it saying "Gearbox didn't pay me enough"
and "Randy Pitchford physically assaulted me"
hushed bronze
His whole deal is to be a Jokester, knock yourself out, lol
echo oxide
randy pitchford assaulted me with a pitchfork
smoky wing
@heavy merlin Sure, I'd still like to check that out if you could. ๐
heavy merlin
You may not be able to find an mbincompiler that will convert stuff that old though.
steel crypt
@smoky wing I might have a compiler if you can tell me the NMS version.
heavy merlin
Initial release
Or thereabouts... I may have a newer version somewhere if that's no good, not sure.
smoky wing
@steel crypt was just looking for the shaders, so don't need the compiler
steel crypt
Oh, duh right.
smoky wing
@heavy merlin that'd be great, I'm mainly interested in how they did their lighting. See if I can learn anything from that
heavy merlin
Oh yeah, duh, I glanced at the files and saw .bin, misread as mbin.
smoky wing
wondering if I can apply anything like the heavy rim lighting to the current version (at least until vulkan)
steel crypt
There was an on/off control in a global somewhere for rim lighting on trees etc. I don't know if it's off in this version or something?
smoky wing
Hrmm, I see some vars for something to do with "rim" in the graphicsglobals, but I'm not sure they do anything.
steel crypt
Yeah never messed with it, just remember seeing it. Just thought I might give you heads up.
hushed bronze
@smoky wing The Vulkan version of NMS seems to use nearly all of the same code, so if anyone figures out how to recompile the files, then the lessons you learn about the shader code will likely carry over
hearty wasp
T H I C C
hushed bronze
Why is the Bioshock guy trying to kill you
hushed bronze
Did you swap some herd animals withMr. Bioshock?
hearty wasp
yeah just swapped out the antelope type
done more than that to make it actually work, of course
don't care enough to learn too much more about the entity shit, I just wanna see if I can add interaction data and have them have convo
hushed bronze
Maybe switch out the feed function?
thin viper
Do they attack each other and poop?
hushed bronze
Also maybe use a passive type so they don't scramble like cockroaches in light at the sight of you, lol
thin viper
So if you feed them,they like you and follow you around
hearty wasp
I don't care enougn for that
I just set it to always spawn herbivores cos mapping melee anim as attack anim is hard
hushed bronze
Thats what I mean, for you human swap in, put the convo feature in place of the feed feature
hearty wasp
yeah I know I can do that
I just haven't had time
for reason you'll see in a minute
hushed bronze
Thats just mean
thin viper
So they move around on their own?
hushed bronze
You're awful lol
thin viper
Do they like scan things?
thin viper
Make a video or something of it
hushed bronze
mod will be denied from Nexus otherwise
hearty wasp
I'm not sure if the game's using anything other than the gek rig either
cos every one of em looks like dwarves
https://gfycat.com/BriefSlimyBuckeyebutterfly
@echo oxide
Is this what you wanted
I made it extra corrupted
cos it twitches when shooting a bolt
lime mesa
@magic lava - Just making sure you don't miss this.
hearty wasp
"Appropriate for all ages"
hushed bronze
@hearty wasp The humanimals you're making may be referencing the maximum body scaling factors
thin viper
Record a gif of these
hearty wasp
but they still looks dwarfed
hushed bronze
I dont mean overall scale I mean that p[iecewise thing introduced after NEXT
where you can make yourself look fat n stuff
hearty wasp
yeah ik but there are actually still joint rigs for different races
in the scene
I might just... yeet some Gek shit in the entity
hushed bronze
Maybe you just have been unlucky rolling gekless humanimals
hearty wasp
yeah maybe
hushed bronze
Seems there are only 3 races and only three or so major body segments
hearty wasp
tbh the player character model's got so many different skeletons I don't think I can be arsed to figure out lmao
hushed bronze
But also maybe splicing in copies of non Gek parts can force the odds a bit
Much like having two reds and six blues in a list of eight colors forces bias toward blue
thin viper
Make a gif of them walking
hushed bronze
Nah skip the gif and make that mod releasable lol
hearty wasp
you can actually already see em in the thomas vid lol
I haven't figured out forcing passive-neutral ratio either
so every one of em runs away like goddamn pussies
thin viper
hearty wasp
nop definitely is the skeleton
I like this better
but I can always have 2 models under a descriptor
thin viper
LMAO going to be weird when they just keep running around like kids
hushed bronze
You should totally make a ton of different animal heads possible
hushed bronze
Nah I think with some polish this could be one of the most popular mods
hearty wasp
Thomas & Friends have sounds now https://youtu.be/YCbKwojl5Ew
supple wadi
lol
fair quest
I wish i could mod like that XD
hushed bronze
You CAN! all you have to do is be WinderTP
smoky wing
@hushed bronze re: the vulkan shaders thing. Yeah I did see some of the decompiled attempts too, made me a bit more hopeful.
rotund pollen
Is there a working mod to remove the rainbow lines while on pulse drive?
hearty wasp
how do I make this into a troll and make people think I've an early build of Beyond https://gfycat.com/spectacularcolossalamericanratsnake
lime mesa
Well that escalated quickly.
thin viper
Feels weird watching them jog in place
hearty wasp
no one answered my question of how I can make them physically go faster so they're gonna be stuck like this now
hushed bronze
@hearty wasp All you gotta do is make the mod good enough to be convincing (not still running during convo and stuff)
hearty wasp
that's not controllable lmao
hearty wasp
so I got the speed right but I can't make it so they can either run or jog
so now they only jog which still ain't so bad
also apparently you can't aim directly at them when you they have interaction data
hearty wasp
are you wtfing on the corrupted sentinel
magic lava
Most of the last few pics actually
hearty wasp
also I made dem hobos idle now
magic lava
Niiice
hearty wasp
and they do random emotes
magic lava
LOL
hearty wasp
I may replace them into the grunt type cos they're more commonly spawned as passive instead of prey
magic lava
Pretty weird, I love it
magic lava
Lol
ivory oak
hey, anybody recommend any mods for better looking planets and such. Im very new whats good and not good mods in this game
hearty wasp
sort by recently updated on Nexus and NMSmods
hearty wasp
some updated movements/animations later https://gfycat.com/silkyflawlesscondor
severe leaf
lmao nice ragdoll physics
hearty wasp
you can see some gestures in the fist segment and that's already an improvement
lime mesa
I don't know why I find the sudden massacre so funny.
severe leaf
feels like gta combined with nms
hearty wasp
the ragdoll's actually p easy to do, I just need to specify the right joints that'll be ragdolled and the game literally handles with rest
and yeah GTA's what I thought of first thing when I got it working too lol
severe leaf
i like it, keep doing what you're doing!
hearty wasp
I think the thomas sentinel icon'd be enough to tell that this ain't vanilla so Imma share this on the reddits and see if people are dumb enough to not see that lmao
obsidian tree
@hearty wasp can you do something with the entities so that the interaction triggers an animation? Specifically their stationary one?
hearty wasp
I mean if you just want a specific anim to play I just need to hook a simple interaction up to an action trigger which can call an anim
thin viper
Looks better than before
Now the question:can you feed them
And have them follow you
magic lava
Lol
hearty wasp
you can only have either interaction data or simple interaction data
and I haven't figured out some bugs related to models with different entities within different parts of a proc model
so you can feed em if I set it up that way but I dunno if the following thing is a role descriptor thing cos when I fed em back when I can they just roamed around anyway
obsidian tree
I believe entity files stack in a way
hearty wasp
they still shit on the floor tho
lime mesa
Lmao
thin viper
๐
obsidian tree
so often in the scenes there is a locator with an entity, and then there can be child objects with entities also
some structs compound and some overwrite the others
I think action triggers compound
but it has been a while since I have looked at that stuff
hearty wasp
I have my models set up as individual scenes and then I ref em in the main scene
thin viper
Can you add the scan entity from flying cans to these
hearty wasp
Nah I those are sentinel AI shit
I mean I can hook an ID up so they use their binoculars
thin viper
Oh do that
hearty wasp
But since the binoculars anim are in 3 parts I dunno how well it'd work out
hearty wasp
A lotta stuff a scene can do are in the same vein
Sp as long as they're within that vein it's doable to an extent
obsidian tree
anims have a thing which tells it what anim to play next
multi part ones can auto play other ones I think
hearty wasp
Just don't expect them to get in a ship and then shoot you
obsidian tree
or you might be able to mess around with things so that you do or don't trigger the next anim
lime mesa
Oh so it's just setting up a timeline in a simple sense?
hearty wasp
I've only seen anim sequence done in action triggers tho
And from what brief amount I've seen in the Trees block of anim data it's more about blending anims
Thing is I think some of the creature anims have their IDs called from somewhere undiscovered by me
So I can only rename anims to have em called by the game directly and I can't use action triggers as a result
west notch
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1012?tab=description could i use this mod which modifies GCGRAPHICSGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN with the No Man's Sky Fantasy mod by redmas?
Or they don't work together?
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968 And this would work? Or the "vivid colors" mod of the redmas folder of optional mods make them crash?
Sorry, sometimes idk which mod modifies which file xD
hearty wasp
you just just try em out one by one and see
west notch
the problem with this "colors" mods is that if one doesn't work it's hard to see if it's not working, unless it makes the game crash, but sometimes mods don't work and even then the game doesn't crash
But yes, i'm gonna do that
smoky wing
Brighter Sunlight likely only modifies graphicsglobals. Dud's Sky should work with it then, it doesn't modify that file AFAIK.
west notch
Thanks! My main worries was about the compatibility with No Man's Sky Fantasy by Redmas
By now no crashes
But idk if they're working fine xd
smoky wing
Yeah, I'm not sure about Fantasy. I haven't tried it yet, and it does appear to have a lot of changes.
lime mesa
Hello @west notch , they are both compatible ๐ but for dudsky colors mod, you ll have to use the "____" renaming in front of his filename.
lime mesa
Yes, just by putting "__".
The more underscores in front of a file increases the load priority but 2 is plenty enough.
hushed bronze
@hearty wasp Your earlier comment made me want to add feeding and pooping to the sentinel drones
make robots poop, damn you
hearty wasp
I'm not sure how shitting's handled by the game
hushed bronze
Well its super important that you learn how to do that, it's the greatest mod of all time
hearty wasp
I mean if's literally just in sequence with feeding then it can be done easily
hushed bronze
make everything poop
NPC starships, shop balls, birds, your own char, even the Atlas
hearty wasp
for the record I did try to make my player character shit
hearty wasp
nah the player character scene works extra weirdly
if you destroy any node the game fucking dies
lime mesa
@west notch yeah sounds fine ๐
you should do it with rift better clouds as well
nms fantasy all in one as a clouds fix / improvement
low nexus
Does anyone know how to reset all of your missions, such as the base building missions and employee missions, using a save editor?
My missions, like the atlas path, are messed up and I just want to reset them and do them over again.
smoky wing
tweaking the big common shaders makes for some very slow testing... "loading shaders..."
Hrmm... well, simply uncommenting the "Rim" section of commonlighting.shader.h.bin isn't enough to make it work. The screen just promptly fades to nuclear white
Oh wait, that result doesn't make any sense. The Rim light calculation gets overridden on the next line anyway so It should actually do nothing.
hushed bronze
Atlas is just fucking with you, don't worry about it
smoky wing
Lol. I'm thinking there's prolly some syntax error in HG's code that I'm missing.
smoky wing
Well, found the bad line, just gotta figure out why.
lime mesa
@low nexus did you tried to reset them from the game menu ?
smoky wing
Oh there we go, one var was not being declared if certain flags were not defined. Okay, let's try fixin that...