#nms-modding | No Man's Sky | Page 153

hearty wasp Mar 13, 2019, 3:16 PM

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I can't be arsed to edit each of em and post em on #nms-photomode-gallery so here they are

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might still do some refinement on the walls i.e. putting the upper walls inwards

hearty wasp Mar 13, 2019, 3:43 PM

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also doors

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lime mesa Mar 13, 2019, 10:39 PM

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i wanna talk to someone about a crafting project

hearty wasp Mar 13, 2019, 10:56 PM

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you can just talk, no one is stopping you thonk

steel crypt Mar 13, 2019, 11:09 PM

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DUD'S SKY - COLORS
Updated to v1.77.5
Now 14 sunset/sunrise colors!
Added blue light/sun and green light/sun to existing yellow light/sun. (During sunrise/sunset only.)

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

DUD'S SKY - COLORS

Grass, plant, sand, water, snow, & more... color mod. Compatible with NMS v1.77

lime mesa Mar 13, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Well its kinda of a secret plan of sorts lol

hearty wasp Mar 13, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Then just roll into the modding discord and choose someone at random

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Cos we don't have secrets there seanbomination

lime mesa Mar 13, 2019, 11:39 PM

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lol

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isnt this modding? lol

supple wadi Mar 13, 2019, 11:44 PM

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there's another modding discord server all secreted away (except not really)

lime mesa Mar 13, 2019, 11:53 PM

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lol

hearty wasp Mar 13, 2019, 11:57 PM

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It's a secret in the sense that no one care enough to discover it

supple wadi Mar 13, 2019, 11:57 PM

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pretty much, lol

lime mesa Mar 14, 2019, 1:22 AM

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Its not built yet lol

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I actually want to get a crew together to build something

hearty wasp Mar 14, 2019, 1:33 AM

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if you wanna crew, you probably won't find one lol

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we will help with talk but you're better off doing the actual making yourself

lime mesa Mar 14, 2019, 1:34 AM

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ok

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Maybe thought some people want to be a part of it thats all.

hearty wasp Mar 14, 2019, 1:35 AM

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well I'm just saying that others have tried and none of em has succeeded yet, but just take that as a sidenote

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anyway, the best chance you'll have is probably still at the modding discord

lime mesa Mar 14, 2019, 1:44 AM

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ok thank you for your time

hushed bronze Mar 14, 2019, 1:58 AM

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@obsidian tree i HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR LOADING TIMES

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Not meant to be caps

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any way you said a big one took 20s, but I wanted to say, as long as the game loads whatever models come from your program within its expected timies, I, personally, would worry less about the editing utility taking a bit to boot up

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I mean, fast is nice, but a lot less important on that end of business

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That being said, I'm really impressed you can do this sort of thing at all. I bet you would get along with my best bud Cody, he does shit like this too

obsidian tree Mar 14, 2019, 2:00 AM

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I'm just making it so that blender loads the modela from the game

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I can shave a bunch of time off by reading the material mbins directly instead of using mbincompile to convert go exml then read them

hushed bronze Mar 14, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Forreal though, he tells me one day, "Hold on, there's a satellite passing overhead and I need to interface with it before it moves on". and he isnt kidding lol

obsidian tree Mar 14, 2019, 2:02 AM

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Haha

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If mbincompiler wasnt written in .net it would be easier to use as a fall with python then I could use the API with NMSDK to make it all easy, but sadly I cant :/

hushed bronze Mar 14, 2019, 2:02 AM

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I just wanted to speak up about that before you go and spend weeks or months on the load time if its that kind of thing

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Because I know from Cody, you elite programmers can be a perfectionist to a fault and forget the thing you were trying to tighten up wasnt that big of a deal lol

obsidian tree Mar 14, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Nah, it will take like an hour to probably halve the time I think

hushed bronze Mar 14, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Thats perfectly reasonable I think

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I spent more than that trying to figure out why my mod setup wasnt working only to find that the filename was too long (although i still dunny why that was an issue)

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Standard windows filestructure used a symbol the app didnt care for

obsidian tree Mar 14, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Thats a common coding issue

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The worst thing is the error is normally pretty obtuse. Doesnt often indicate that is the problem

hushed bronze Mar 14, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Does this export to standard blender OBJ?

obsidian tree Mar 14, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Nah. This just loads directly into blender

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Blender literally reads a scene file

hushed bronze Mar 14, 2019, 2:07 AM

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I would like that because im pretty sure OBJ interfaces effortlessly with autodesk, the program Im actually familiar with. Though some have told me blender has made huge progress since the older days

obsidian tree Mar 14, 2019, 2:07 AM

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And loads the associated geometry

hushed bronze Mar 14, 2019, 2:07 AM

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I'll probably just learn blender one of these days, though an undertaking like that would have to wait for summer

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Youre being too specific I think, I mean blender scenes save as .something

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used to be OBJ i thought

obsidian tree Mar 14, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Well you can just export from blender into obj

hushed bronze Mar 14, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Anyway I was wondering if I can take the blender scene, save, open in 3DS, play with it, save, send back to blender, open that, and still not break it

obsidian tree Mar 14, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Also, I have super patchy internet right now so messages are being sent in odd orders

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I dunno. Possibly

hushed bronze Mar 14, 2019, 2:10 AM

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I had a blizzard today!

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It knocked out my powwer for over 3 hours

obsidian tree Mar 14, 2019, 2:10 AM

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I will be importing it into blender in the format so that it can easily be exported back into the game

hushed bronze Mar 14, 2019, 2:10 AM

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I was not sure what to do with myself without light or electricity so I went out and walked three miles in the blizzard

obsidian tree Mar 14, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Haha

hushed bronze Mar 14, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Im glad jason is making colors while actually testing them

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He has a distinct preference for muted themes and i wish the palette was broader but man its better than certain other color mods blowing shotgun shells at walls while blindfolded

hearty wasp Mar 14, 2019, 4:56 PM

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wall and floor stacking

lime mesa Mar 14, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Damn dude. I'm loving watching the progress of this.

harsh moth Mar 14, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Hey, excuse me, can someone tell if there's mod that removes those particles that goes around the screen during pulse drive

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I seen just outdated one

brittle zinc Mar 14, 2019, 11:51 PM

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why would you want to remove them

smoky wing Mar 15, 2019, 12:18 AM

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That might be one of the options in the current Space Dream mod?

alpine oasis Mar 15, 2019, 1:37 AM

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@harsh moth https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/623 removes pulse drive lines and also has an option for more subtle lines

left sentinel Mar 15, 2019, 7:47 AM

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are there any mods yet for making the game a little less cpu intensive

hearty wasp Mar 15, 2019, 7:51 AM

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No

lime mesa Mar 15, 2019, 9:09 AM

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No speed lines, no space dust, no space plasma get all these three @harsh moth

lusty gorge Mar 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Hey folks; Is there a mod around to let me pick up autonomous mining units? I tried looking around on the nexus, but couldn't find anything like that.

magic lava Mar 15, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Because you don't need a mod for that, or shouldn't

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If it has no fuel and is empty , you should be able to remove it

lusty gorge Mar 15, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Nope, can't. Don't get a Middle Click option, and even the wiki says it can't be picked back up

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I can't Z and then CTRL + f it either because it's a portable tech

magic lava Mar 15, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Ooof

hearty wasp Mar 15, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I don't even remember the ID of it

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but techplus probably had it

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and if it did Eucli-ea would have it too

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yep techplus has it

lusty gorge Mar 15, 2019, 3:01 PM

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https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/770?tab=files This?

hearty wasp Mar 15, 2019, 3:02 PM

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ye

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I don't think homesick bothered to update it

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but Eucli-ea has it incorporated so I don't give a shit okglove

lusty gorge Mar 15, 2019, 3:03 PM

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So... Which do you recommend I use then? 🤔

hearty wasp Mar 15, 2019, 3:04 PM

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just get Eucli-ea, you'll get >500 new buildable pieces along with it anyway so that's just a bonus

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blob

lusty gorge Mar 15, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Eee...

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The Eucli-ea makes me lag like a bitch when i open the building menu

hearty wasp Mar 15, 2019, 3:12 PM

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yeah because of HG design blob

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someone mentioned a "viewing pack" that doesn't shove the bp into the build menu but I can't be arsed to put more work onto myself

lusty gorge Mar 15, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Eh?

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What do you mean?

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If you think you could find that, it'd be very helpful

hearty wasp Mar 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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find what

lusty gorge Mar 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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This "viewing pack" or whatever.

hearty wasp Mar 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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no you can't find it cos I don't bloody make it thoinking

lusty gorge Mar 15, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Oh, you didn't... Specify that they suggested you make it.

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I see now.

hearty wasp Mar 15, 2019, 3:17 PM

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I'd welcome someone to do it for me but it's hard enough to find someone that can be arsed to modding as it is now lol

hushed bronze Mar 15, 2019, 5:40 PM

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@left sentinel Best mod for that is a faster CPU

hearty wasp Mar 15, 2019, 6:18 PM

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lmfao perfect answer

supple wadi Mar 15, 2019, 7:24 PM

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u trained them well

hearty wasp Mar 15, 2019, 9:19 PM

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colours

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cosmic pendant Mar 16, 2019, 7:29 AM

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New player here - any must-have mod recommendations?

hearty wasp Mar 16, 2019, 7:50 AM

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mods in recently updated on Nexus

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and NMSmods

buoyant sand Mar 16, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Personally, I find Meki's Multiple Maneuvers mod to be pretty essential. Or any mod in similar vein that removes the flight limits on planets.

maiden flame Mar 16, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Framerate killer

hearty wasp Mar 16, 2019, 3:09 PM

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more colours

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I am probably not gonna make this happen for trees/stones since it take an hour or so for each set I've done here

hearty wasp Mar 16, 2019, 5:42 PM

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magic lava Mar 16, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Lovely

hearty wasp Mar 16, 2019, 7:11 PM

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collisions are being iffy tho lol

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can't really do much with primitive collisions

magic lava Mar 16, 2019, 7:13 PM

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In a game where a decal used to block me exiting a doorway, I'm sure it's tough

hearty wasp Mar 16, 2019, 7:40 PM

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this is how fucked this looks rn https://gfycat.com/EqualGrouchyEwe

Gfycat

windertp

NMS 2018-09-08 18-12-20-99

▶ Play video

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at least I made it so you can't walk right off the stairs rn

magic lava Mar 16, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Lol bouncy

smoky wing Mar 16, 2019, 8:52 PM

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nice, but what's with the weird doubled-up steps?

hearty wasp Mar 16, 2019, 8:53 PM

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just the way I have to deal with vanilla assets

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the vanilla steps are 3 steps

smoky wing Mar 16, 2019, 8:55 PM

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ahh, weird

hearty wasp Mar 17, 2019, 9:01 AM

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lotta space magic went into this

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also it's really neat how 2 bases can get so close to each other, cos this is 2 bases

cyan oracle Mar 17, 2019, 12:00 PM

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cool stairs @hearty wasp

hearty wasp Mar 17, 2019, 12:00 PM

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Thank I got the idea when chatting with kibbles a while back

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Kinda wanna make one that sticks on the outside of the circular outpost but dunno how useful that'd be in the current environment

stray kraken Mar 17, 2019, 7:03 PM

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So with the modding on NMS..if I was to use mods to get rich or make huge structures on normal, would that get uploaded to the while NMS server so anyone can see my badass creations

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Or is it all just on my game only

lime mesa Mar 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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in your game only @stray kraken

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Unless they also have the mods

stray kraken Mar 17, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Okay awesome. Are there any mods structures you can place from mods that others cant see? @lime mesa

harsh moth Mar 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Wondering how much client-sided would nms be

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Does client still send info about some custom structure? That can't be rendered on other pc

lime mesa Mar 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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no

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AFAIK custom structures don't have their info sent

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Maybe if the player walks on them then they will appear to float

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but the other play can pass right through it

marsh wyvern Mar 17, 2019, 8:39 PM

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oooooo i can download mods for no mans sky now lol that i have a pc

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and the pc version of the game

harsh moth Mar 17, 2019, 9:17 PM

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I need help with XMM, for some reason, when merging 2 files, the second file just reapply the value changes from first mod, the second doesn't even have the values that first mod changes

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The heck

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Like i have hover mod, which changes minspeed from 20 to 0

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Ok

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But second is x6 pulse speed

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And xmm just copies the value changes from hover while processing Pulse-speed mod

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Even better, the values still unchanged in result

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It's all vanilla

patent plank Mar 17, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Is the tessellation fix mod needed if you updated your AMD driver

hearty wasp Mar 18, 2019, 12:55 AM

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@harsh moth if the other people have the mod installed they will see the same structures

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same goes with base objects, as shown in my screenshots of the current Facade build

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you can also find out more about modding behaviour in mp environment in the doc here https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/824?tab=images

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Intelligence Enhancer (Mod and Resource)

This simple mod will enhance your intelligence to remind you that mods, in fact, work in multiplayer.

hushed bronze Mar 18, 2019, 6:43 AM

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OH BTW the Back to Foundations Terrain component not only enhances grass coverage, but also entirely eliminates that incredibly shitty tiny-grass that fails at being grass

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Because the mini grass was a NEXT addition

maiden flame Mar 18, 2019, 8:47 AM

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@hushed bronze ive never seen tall grass in next

hearty wasp Mar 18, 2019, 8:50 AM

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tall grass is a myth

maiden flame Mar 18, 2019, 8:54 AM

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Tall gras is cool cuz it makes you feel shorter

hearty wasp Mar 18, 2019, 4:01 PM

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so all these are colourisable now

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harsh moth Mar 18, 2019, 4:09 PM

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"now"?

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ikea mod?

hearty wasp Mar 18, 2019, 4:19 PM

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"now" in my test pack

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"later" in an Eucli-ea update

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turns out some of the glow stuff are inherently colourisable

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hence the magenta glow on the left

lime mesa Mar 18, 2019, 4:55 PM

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vanilla, modded, trainer or otherwise …. are we all on the same server?

hearty wasp Mar 18, 2019, 4:56 PM

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ye

lime mesa Mar 18, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Thank you.

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You would think that would cause some balance issues...lol. Obviously not. 😃

hearty wasp Mar 18, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I mean the only moments when modded people would have an advantage on you is when they play with you in the same lobby

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I don't really see much disadvantage on vanilla players' part apart from in PvP but you can already turn that shit off lol

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if you are concerned you can always refer to my documentation on how mods work in mp btw https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/824?tab=images

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

Intelligence Enhancer (Mod and Resource)

This simple mod will enhance your intelligence to remind you that mods, in fact, work in multiplayer.

undone stone Mar 18, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Hello guys! Just a quick noob question: which mods are generally recommended, like must have mods for the base game?

harsh moth Mar 18, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Just install what annoys you in game

lime mesa Mar 18, 2019, 7:20 PM

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I am really interested in getting to the civilizations that have begun

heavy merlin Mar 18, 2019, 7:28 PM

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#communities maybe

harsh moth Mar 18, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Heh i wonder, will there ever be a system where lots of players

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Like community build city

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And yet not become a minecraft server

hearty wasp Mar 19, 2019, 12:43 AM

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mount loper?

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they're trying, at least

tame mica Mar 19, 2019, 6:00 AM

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I hope there’s not a universal reset for the update.

hearty wasp Mar 19, 2019, 6:04 AM

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I doubt there would be major terrain gen changes at this point

magic lava Mar 19, 2019, 9:52 AM

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💔

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Their accuracy has gotten better anyways, Abyss showed they could do large changes without a reset. Is it possible for them to change the terrain gen, but not have it affect terrain within the radius of a base?

timber lark Mar 19, 2019, 10:40 AM

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it is possible, but without a lot of extra work being done you'd see sharp changes between the base radius and the rest. One option could be that planets with bases on them don't get their terrain gen modified at all (which is very possible to do but would require them adding rather than replacing code)

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it would be like a 'legacy planet' system.

heavy merlin Mar 19, 2019, 11:51 AM

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The only way they could do that and have it work offline would be to bake in a long list of planets that had bases on pre-Beyond...

hearty wasp Mar 19, 2019, 11:53 AM

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One thing to say they can, another to say they can bother

heavy merlin Mar 19, 2019, 11:53 AM

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And they may only know those that have been uploaded, and I'm guessing not everyone does that, as it doesn't appear to do anything.

magic lava Mar 19, 2019, 12:37 PM

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So slim or no chance, and slim is outta town

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 11:58 AM

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I know we already have the link pinned but now we have the best server picture ever https://discord.gg/NYZqm8c

magic lava Mar 20, 2019, 12:13 PM

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That's amazing

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 12:15 PM

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Thank jason he made it

magic lava Mar 20, 2019, 12:19 PM

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Ty Jason

steel crypt Mar 20, 2019, 12:39 PM

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No, Jason didn't make it. Although I wish I did. It was monkeyman. A while ago. I just dug it up. LOL

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 12:40 PM

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thanks for digging it up

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it's the kind of history that must be preserved

magic lava Mar 20, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Ty monkeyman

maiden flame Mar 20, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Hey

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How do you revert versions on steam?

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 1:23 PM

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you don't

magic lava Mar 20, 2019, 1:25 PM

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The pins in the legacy channel have a link on how to play previous versions

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I haven't looked at it since I'm on console, but worth a look maybe for you

maiden flame Mar 20, 2019, 1:25 PM

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Thx

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 2:45 PM

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pls send help how do i recover my Atlas Path mission?

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the last time i seen it it was at the stage of telling me to explore the galaxy

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and i also had encountered a weird transmission, but i have never gotten the waypoint

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Have you tried asking in the anomaly about atlas?

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 2:47 PM

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the space anomaly with nada and polo?

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Yes

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 2:47 PM

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no, how do i do that?

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never really had a chance to do that i think

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also what's this mission?

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heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Nada has an option "Resume the path of the Atlas", but that may only be if you've chosen to ignore it before.

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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nope

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he doesnt give me that option

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 2:52 PM

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That's part of the atlas path... I guess the start

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 2:52 PM

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hmmm

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i wish i knew what the progress thing meant

lime mesa Mar 20, 2019, 2:52 PM

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restart

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save

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You messed up

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You could fix it

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 2:53 PM

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i want to fix it

lime mesa Mar 20, 2019, 2:53 PM

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But you'll end up having other problems

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Pff. Messed up missions happen without doing anything strange.

magic lava Mar 20, 2019, 2:53 PM

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True, but he has already edited it

lime mesa Mar 20, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Yeah though if you mess with the save editor it can get worse

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 2:54 PM

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gon go try to set that thing to 1

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and reaload the save

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when my autosave which isn't edited of the thing set to 1 will load

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Likely the worst that will happen is that you'll have to repeat stuff you've already done.

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 2:54 PM

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and that's not so bad

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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I mean if you recommend restarting it probably wouldn't hurt to mess up this save blob

magic lava Mar 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Good point lol

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Yeah, if the choice is between "start over" and "possibly fix it"

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There's not a lot to lose.

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 2:59 PM

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i've gotten something

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that's when i find nada and polo

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means that i gotta make it go forward a bit more

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maybe 2 will be good

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 3:01 PM

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if you're already in a system with an anomaly try warping to another and then scan in space

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:01 PM

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hmm

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oh shit

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lime mesa Mar 20, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Ayyyyy nice.

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:02 PM

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okkk and the mission is now gone

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ah

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it auto sets itself to 10

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what if i make it 11

magic lava Mar 20, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Spinal tap sues

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:04 PM

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what"?

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nope 11 is nothing

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hmmmmm

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i need the right progress id

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:25 PM

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A fresh save has -1 for each of the AP_ATLASx ones, and basically all other quests too.

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:26 PM

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hmmmm

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-1 is off

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10 is pretty much when you go to nada and polo

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i assume i need atlas2

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:28 PM

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The last one that doesn't have -1

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:28 PM

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i have many AP_ATLASx quests with -1

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:29 PM

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yeah, so which is the highest that isn't?

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Presumably the lowest-numbered ones aren't -1, then after a point, all are -1

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:30 PM

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the highest is the atlas1

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which is 10

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:30 PM

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no ugh

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:30 PM

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everytihng after of the atlasx missions are -1

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Oh, ATLAS2 is -1?

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:31 PM

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ye

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it was -1

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i changed it to 1

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still nothing

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:31 PM

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And the other AP_ ones? AP_ANOMALY?

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:32 PM

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ap anomaly is -1

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ap explore is -1

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ap blackhole is -1

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:32 PM

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There's a load of AP_ANOMALY1 etc after the AP_ATLAS ones

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:33 PM

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anomaly1 is 39

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anomaly2 is 46

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anomaly 3 is the same as 2

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4 is the same aswell

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5 same aswell

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6 is 26

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7 is -1

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everything else is -1

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Try setting 6 to -1

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:35 PM

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ok

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now this

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heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:37 PM

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What is that thing on all your screenshots?

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And I guess try doing what it says?

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Had you got to that point before?

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:38 PM

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probably

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it says to go to polo

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when i go to polo

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then polo says to wait two hours

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worst thing is that the mission disappeared not when i changed the save

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like it wasnt i modified the save and then the nxet time i played it was gone

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Tried talking to Nada?

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:42 PM

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now?

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Yeah

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:42 PM

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no

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he just talks about milestones

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i wish i could figure out the last mission id and the progress thing

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before the mission disappeared

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:46 PM

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If you edited the save before the problems appeared, there should be a backup in there you can load.

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:47 PM

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k

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:48 PM

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On the first tab of the editor, the "save file" dropdown...

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:49 PM

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ah

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:50 PM

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You could find one from when the missions were ok, then copy the entire text of the mission section into notepad or something, then load the live version of the save, paste it back in.

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:50 PM

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wait what do those numbers represent

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heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Probably epoch time.. You can just click one and it'll show you the date in the window

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:51 PM

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ok

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i wish the save text was not a single line

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Eh

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Copy it in the json editor?

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:53 PM

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my json editor is notepad++

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:54 PM

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no

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the thing in the editor

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where you were changing the other stuff...

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/377229206351773696/557938411147624459/unknown.png

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that

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:54 PM

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i cant really quickly compare what was different

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:54 PM

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scroll up in the left to the "MissionProgress"

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:54 PM

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in that

heavy merlin Mar 20, 2019, 3:54 PM

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yeah, no comparing

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well you could

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but anyway

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scroll up to the missionprogress and click on that

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Then the right side will show the whole lot at once...

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You can paste that into kdiff or whatever to find differences

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but I was suggesting just copy the whole thing from the old one to the new

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 3:55 PM

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ok

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i have a quick comparsion app on my laptop

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lemme try to use that to compare

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nvm you're right

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in old save AP_EXPLORE was set to 1

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atlas2 was set to 2 aswell in the old one

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:03 PM

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I made even more gabage

📎 20190320235534_1.jpg

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📎 20190321000246_1.jpg

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at this point I'm exclusively making garbage and structural pieces

magic lava Mar 20, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Nice garbage

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What do you do with the top bits? Wall stuff?

thin viper Mar 20, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Staff for jedis

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Or stick fighting

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:07 PM

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top 2 are technically ceiling beams

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:07 PM

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hmmm

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still nothing

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:07 PM

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but they're set to surface normal so you can stick em onto walls too

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I made the pipe stuff for the cantina I'm still waiting to build so I hope that works well on the walls

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:11 PM

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oh fuck

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fuc

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lime mesa Mar 20, 2019, 4:15 PM

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KaguyaWienerLUL

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:17 PM

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eh

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the autosave ain't broken

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that's good

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god why is it so hard to determine which thing is the broken part in the save

magic lava Mar 20, 2019, 4:28 PM

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It's almost like you are doing something they never thought you would

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:35 PM

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its exactly the thing that you described

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except it is not mainly my fault

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because my base missions have disappeared before aswell

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and in before i didnt use save editor

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:46 PM

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and things one random person wanted for a long time

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lime mesa Mar 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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You might as well restart @quiet plover

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:53 PM

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what i could try with the restart is uhhhh

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play the game at the point until i get the mission for the strange signal

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then try to move the mission stuff to my old save

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:54 PM

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or you can just move your entire inventory to the new save

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:54 PM

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yeah but cant do that with the save

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:54 PM

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wym can't

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it's just copying a different block of json

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:55 PM

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i'd need to find the very specific planet

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and hope that the terrain locations would align

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:55 PM

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no idea what you're talking about

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:55 PM

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so i wouldnt get my base stuck in the ground

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:56 PM

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your bases has galactic addresses in their own block already

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where anything else are has no bearing on it

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:57 PM

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galactic address

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i'd need to find the planet then

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:57 PM

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no?

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:57 PM

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why not?

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:57 PM

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you have teleport endpoints

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:58 PM

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so if i woould put the json block the teleport point would appear for me?

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:58 PM

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yeah but that has nothing to do with where the bases actually are either

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:58 PM

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okay

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 4:58 PM

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only where the bases are actually stored in the save has anything to do with where the bases are

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 4:59 PM

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ok

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which one of those things i should move to a new save

📎 unknown.png

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well

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i'd have to exclude some of the substuff in there

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but how would i mainly get the inv, the base, and the storage stuffs in the base moved to a new save

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and the all researched technology

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 5:01 PM

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all the blocks at the top with "Inventory" in em

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TeleportEndpoints if you want the teleport endpoints

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PersistentPlayerBases for bases

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 5:01 PM

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ok

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hmmm

📎 unknown.png

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inventory would be inv

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 5:02 PM

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all the blocks with "Known" in the name for the blueprints

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 5:02 PM

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inventory techonly would be the techs

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that is in my exosuit

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and inventory_cargo is my high capacity cargo which has smaller capacity than my normal inv

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 5:02 PM

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you might want CurrentWeapon for the gun seed

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 5:03 PM

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currentship aswell so i get back my ship

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oh god

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so much to transfer

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i think transferring the atlaspath missions only would be way easier

hearty wasp Mar 20, 2019, 5:05 PM

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you will try

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 5:05 PM

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yeah

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on the other hand tohugh

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it would be better to transfer my current save inv and shit to my new save

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because if i get the transmission

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i feel like i would need to reach a whole different galaxy

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wouldn't i

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well

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if the RNG would be unlucky

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and even then

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i may be required to go to the other side of the galaxy

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okay so

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i shouldn't touch the atlas missions

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and only move the other missions from my original save

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to the new one

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 5:41 PM

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so i should avoid transferring the missions that have the AP prefix, right?

hushed bronze Mar 20, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Im wondering what you modders think.... I was considering continuing my colors mod at some point around now but, with beyond announced, and given HG's penchant for obeying the will of the players and the recent Foundation/Pathfinder reversion craze, how do we feel about the odds of HG themselves reintroducing all sorts of bright colors n stuff on their own? (I dont want to waste tons of time and work if its already coming)

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If you aren't familiar, a while back I was working on a new color mod that tries to offer a true variety, with bright colors, mute colors, earth colors, etc without heavily biasing to a single style

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It was going just fine but my semester started and I shelved it for the time being

warm copper Mar 20, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Does anyone know if Project Atlas and The Next Big Adventure are mutually exclusive of each other?

supple wadi Mar 20, 2019, 6:19 PM

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@hushed bronze could always just fuck around and do it for yourself and stow away this version of the game as your personal custom version to play while beyond gets issues sorted out

hushed bronze Mar 20, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Well colors dont interfere with versioning.. but I hear you

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 7:21 PM

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what kind of missions have the T_ prefix?

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oh nvm

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what;s markerstack?

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or what about storedinteractions

quiet plover Mar 20, 2019, 8:01 PM

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@hearty wasp does the persistentplayerbases also contain the stuff in biodomes?

hearty wasp Mar 21, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Ye

pastel tendon Mar 21, 2019, 2:27 AM

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anyone have an up-to-date black space kind of mod?

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the one I had caused game crashes

hushed bronze Mar 21, 2019, 2:47 AM

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What did you have?

hearty wasp Mar 21, 2019, 2:57 AM

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lo2k's one should be up to date

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just get space dream

wooden cobalt Mar 21, 2019, 10:05 PM

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what mods are still compatible?

hushed bronze Mar 21, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Only mine

steel crypt Mar 22, 2019, 1:17 AM

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👆 😄

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.........hmmmmm....if I could ever understand sound in NMS....gotta make Tiny Tim exosuit voice....slowed down 1/2 speed...note to self.

hearty wasp Mar 22, 2019, 8:56 AM

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I'm sure monkeyman knows a bit about sound

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And I think sound replacement is still possible

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 11:53 AM

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Depot download failed : error unpacking chunk for file "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\content\app_275850\depot_275851\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS\NMSARC.282B741D.pak"

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hey any idea what that means?

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im trying to download foundation thru steam console

hearty wasp Mar 22, 2019, 12:07 PM

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it means it has problem during download

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just download it again

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 12:54 PM

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ok

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my connection is pretty unstable but wnted to make sure if thats that

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ithx

brittle zinc Mar 22, 2019, 12:58 PM

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wait why are you downloading with steamcmd

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 1:23 PM

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Bcs i want foundation

hearty wasp Mar 22, 2019, 1:25 PM

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just get a cracked version

heavy merlin Mar 22, 2019, 1:25 PM

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@maiden flame probably... Try again?

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 1:28 PM

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@heavy merlin yeah i just wonder if all the files will download if i just enter the command over and over

heavy merlin Mar 22, 2019, 1:30 PM

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I think it may not cache anything, so it may be downloading everything again each try... Wait until you have more reliable internet? Or maybe just use a version from elsewhere, as was suggested.

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 1:36 PM

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Yeah... i guess

quiet plover Mar 22, 2019, 1:43 PM

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eh

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its difficult to find older versions of cracked games, when the newer ones are cracked @hearty wasp

hearty wasp Mar 22, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Probably still have better chances than doing the same thing over and over again

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And failing

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Don't give up until you've tried it all at least okglove

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 1:52 PM

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hmm does anybody have a link to download foundation?

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by any chance?

lime mesa Mar 22, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Not here they don't.

hearty wasp Mar 22, 2019, 1:55 PM

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^

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 1:56 PM

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where do they have it?

lime mesa Mar 22, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Not here.

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 1:57 PM

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ok i understand

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now

lime mesa Mar 22, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Excellent. 😛

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 1:57 PM

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lol

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sorry

lime mesa Mar 22, 2019, 1:57 PM

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I'd hate to see you banned for something so petty.

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 1:58 PM

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oh is it because you care about me?

lime mesa Mar 22, 2019, 1:58 PM

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I never said that

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 1:58 PM

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ok...

magic lava Mar 22, 2019, 1:58 PM

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aeyes2

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#off-topic-bond-james-bond guys

lime mesa Mar 22, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Sorry Gleam.

magic lava Mar 22, 2019, 1:58 PM

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sean2

maiden flame Mar 22, 2019, 1:59 PM

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😅

quiet plover Mar 22, 2019, 2:09 PM

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is theer any way to see how would a ship would look with a different seed

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without having to load in the save

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with that different seed

hearty wasp Mar 22, 2019, 2:18 PM

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no

heavy merlin Mar 22, 2019, 2:21 PM

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Different seed means completely different looking ship.

quiet plover Mar 22, 2019, 3:14 PM

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yeah ik

hearty wasp Mar 23, 2019, 3:10 PM

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📎 20190323230259_1.jpg

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I just wanna finish this soon so I can play sekiro instead aeyes

magic lava Mar 23, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Heeeey

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Looking good

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I can hear the band playing almost

thin viper Mar 23, 2019, 3:19 PM

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Is it supposed to be the star wars cantina?

hushed bronze Mar 23, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Star Wars Cantina had a band didnt it?

maiden flame Mar 23, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Im using a save editor while having installed many nms versions

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My save editor seems to only recognize my steam save states

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Anyone might have an idea what i should do to be able to modify my 1.0 saves?

heavy merlin Mar 23, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Doesn't load your old saves, or doesn't even display them?

maiden flame Mar 23, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Doesnt even display anything

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Just my steam saves

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They are all hg files so i find it quite puzzling

hushed bronze Mar 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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You probably need a much older version of save editor

heavy merlin Mar 23, 2019, 7:49 PM

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If you look in windows explorer, are the files from the old version in the normal place?

maiden flame Mar 23, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Yes they are in appdata files the same location as the steam ones

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The usual place for saves

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Arent save editors supposed to be backwards compatible with versions? @hushed bronze

heavy merlin Mar 23, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Very early versions of the game had encrypted saves, I think? You may need to decrypt them with another thing then use the normal editor.

maiden flame Mar 23, 2019, 8:47 PM

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How to decrypt those

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Any program?

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Im mot super great with all that stuff tbh

heavy merlin Mar 23, 2019, 11:13 PM

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https://github.com/matthew-humphrey/nmssavetool hmm, 1.37 and 1.38

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Maybe it was removed in NEXT?

hearty wasp Mar 23, 2019, 11:15 PM

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saves are specific to versions

heavy merlin Mar 23, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Eh... Maybe back then, not now.

hearty wasp Mar 23, 2019, 11:17 PM

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I'm grossly simplifying things

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whenever defaultsaves are changed the save formats are changed

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that means every 1-3 subversions

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if you gonna edit old saves you gonna use an appropriate version of the save editor

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and I dunno if there's even one for 1.0

hushed bronze Mar 23, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Save editors are unlikely to be Back Compat with versions that are extremely different

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Editor probably fails against anything pre Next

maiden flame Mar 23, 2019, 11:26 PM

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You know what it doesnt work

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Just resets my save

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Ill put it off

median pewter Mar 24, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Hey guys, so I just found out that NMS had a discord and have been working on a few mods over the last week that are almost ready to be published to the public, from a range making the game harder and some quality of life mods. Do people hate waiting hours for fleet missions to complete or hate only fining C class fleet ships, well that comes to an end with my mod I have made fleet missions insta complete & S-class ships are found more common. But if you find them to easy I have made missions have a lower success rate but higher rewards.

median pewter Mar 24, 2019, 5:57 AM

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If people have mod ideas or anything they want let me know and ill make it

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im also thinking of changing manufacturing facility loot table, on some questions if u get it wrong you get nothing, well I think even if you get it wrong you should not go empty handed so -rep is better than nothing if you get it wrong but if you are correct then u get +rep

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😃

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y gek

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they look like fish that been out of the water to long

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but that could be something to look into - there are a few Abandoned system that have no life forms could pimp a few old stations out make them into clubs 😃

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I do many things from coding to 3d modelling, making mods seem easy

hearty wasp Mar 24, 2019, 7:26 AM

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lmao that'd be glorious

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also join the modding discord ctp

median pewter Mar 24, 2019, 7:42 AM

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there is a modding discord?

hushed bronze Mar 24, 2019, 8:06 AM

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@median pewter You probably should not mess with manufacturing facilities' loot table

median pewter Mar 24, 2019, 8:10 AM

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okay, owl ill join that discord

hearty wasp Mar 24, 2019, 11:24 AM

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All the loot are just in reward table anyway who gives a fuck what you do with it in there blob

harsh moth Mar 24, 2019, 2:19 PM

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How do i combine 2 shaders?

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Oh welp, will do manually through code i guess

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black space conflicts with natural light

hearty wasp Mar 24, 2019, 2:22 PM

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just get space dream

harsh moth Mar 24, 2019, 2:25 PM

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natural lighting is different

hearty wasp Mar 24, 2019, 2:27 PM

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what

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if you can't comment out things in a shader file then you probably can't combine 2 shaders

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blob

harsh moth Mar 24, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Comment out? They change the same piece of code

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Wait how do i put pic here

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Nevermind, done with it anyway

hearty wasp Mar 24, 2019, 2:42 PM

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I literally showed you Space Dream incorporated both Black Space and Natural Lighting

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unless there is another mod called Natural Lighting you can just get Space Dream and comment out all other modules in one shader file

harsh moth Mar 24, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Yeah i used them both all this time, just everytime running through mcd and watch those 2 conflict, made me look into that

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They both change same pieces of code, so it was up to me from which mod i will apply the change

hearty wasp Mar 24, 2019, 2:45 PM

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if you wanna learn how it was done and all you need to do is download Space Dream and open the shader file and search for the name code specified in that one shader file I mentioned

noble cove Mar 24, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Mods

harsh moth Mar 24, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Im currently sitting at those lines where they collide in shader file

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there's no problem at all, what are we even talking about xD

hearty wasp Mar 24, 2019, 2:48 PM

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ok so you're deliberately trying to learn the hard way

noble cove Mar 24, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Skills

harsh moth Mar 24, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Probably

hearty wasp Mar 24, 2019, 2:48 PM

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I thought you just want a mod that works lol

harsh moth Mar 24, 2019, 2:48 PM

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I want to combine those

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I don't want to see 2 mods that change 1 file, i need 1 file that change 1 file

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Optimization man

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xd

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And now im just thinking whose formula is the best

noble cove Mar 24, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Dwsd

maiden flame Mar 24, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Does anyone know whats up with rayrod?

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Hes not posted anything on yt since forever

supple wadi Mar 24, 2019, 6:36 PM

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🤷

maiden flame Mar 24, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Dang i was hyped for multiverse

harsh moth Mar 24, 2019, 6:44 PM

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He said he's working and then nothing

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If i were him, i'd've stopped already because of Beyond

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Just save all models, textures, lods and etc

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Gen probably break

maiden flame Mar 24, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Yeah

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I guess ill come back to ar with immersion update

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That thing was nuts

pallid tartan Mar 24, 2019, 6:48 PM

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He’s been posting on Twitter I think

maiden flame Mar 24, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Oh

harsh moth Mar 24, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Who sits on Twitter anyway

pallid tartan Mar 24, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Seeing it takes so long to release his updates, beta testing would help speed things up surely

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Plus when the come out they’re compatible for like a month or two

harsh moth Mar 24, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Not to me to criticize, but he's just making it complicated to himself

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Making so many mods in 1 major is just not effective

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He's doing a big thing, BUT the thing is, should i sacrifice most of my mods in favor of his?

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I doubt

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Why just not make it modular?

supple wadi Mar 24, 2019, 6:58 PM

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'cause they just want you to use it altogether for reasons or whatever

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i mean you can request certain bits be made standalone if you can get in contact with'em, but they just don't do that by default because ???

harsh moth Mar 24, 2019, 7:07 PM

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I can just dissassemble his mod

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I don't know, fixing stuff separately is easier ain't it?

supple wadi Mar 24, 2019, 7:14 PM

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i mean i'd think so, but people think differently so 🤷

wooden cobalt Mar 24, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Rayrod is still developing

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and it is far more than those, it's not just "Wording"

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And he learned coding JUST to create a program to make it compatibilize with new versions, far more quickly then regular

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the only reason it hasn't released yet, is because he wants it to be highest quality it can be, rather than kinks and broken-ness

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The mod itself completely reworks pretty much the entire game, from terrain generation, to caves, to animals, it has a complete rework of the biology/creature sounds/behaviors etc.
New Assets, Completely New biomes, Compatibilization to make EVERY version of the games generation spawn ETC

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOjuhaHydIs

maiden flame Mar 24, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Id day rayrod excites me with all the biomes that look just really good

wooden cobalt Mar 24, 2019, 8:30 PM

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It's far beyond scope of ANY current mod.

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Yeah, his biome creations are incredible

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvH9K8EPqnU

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The first planet on this <3

lime mesa Mar 24, 2019, 8:38 PM

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best mods ever

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wooden cobalt Mar 24, 2019, 8:38 PM

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His life has basically been NMS since it launched.

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And as someone ALSO who has played his mod, it was incredible.

lime mesa Mar 24, 2019, 8:38 PM

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What's with them spam mods? 🤔

wooden cobalt Mar 24, 2019, 8:39 PM

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you can call it fake all you want, but its not Abloane

lime mesa Mar 24, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Expands screenshot

wooden cobalt Mar 24, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Esspecially when, thiers two video proof of his mod 😂 fom multiple different youtubers, and playthroughs

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No offence to Redmas nor Gamer, but those mods don't even come close to comparing

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lol.

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Just because you don't understand it, doesnt make it "Word salad", he explains, in quite detail what the goal is, and what he has done

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and has never said 25 million handcrafted procedural planets

lime mesa Mar 24, 2019, 8:46 PM

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the only thing I've ever questioned about rayrod's mod is why he proposes hello games only uses "1%" of their engine

wooden cobalt Mar 24, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Esspecially when he gives, actual work, people who have played it, screenshots, etc.

lime mesa Mar 24, 2019, 8:46 PM

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just wondering where he got that from

wooden cobalt Mar 24, 2019, 8:46 PM

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their is ALOT of stuff that the engine can do, that they don't do with it

lime mesa Mar 24, 2019, 8:46 PM

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well I'm sure of it, just wondering what makes it 1%

wooden cobalt Mar 24, 2019, 8:48 PM

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I absolutely have, part of his server

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and have been following progression

lime mesa Mar 24, 2019, 8:49 PM

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also some of these bigger mods are just completely undermined by official hello games updates. that's why I stopped modding my saves on PC. there are many things that look cool in these overhauls but don't perform well-- but that isn't specifically speaking to rayrod or anyone really, just generally

haven't followed his own suit, so I don't know what he's doing

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modding in terms of massive overhauls I mean

rotund vine Mar 24, 2019, 8:50 PM

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But still post-next graphics

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uwu

lime mesa Mar 24, 2019, 8:50 PM

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might have to check that out then. been looking to spam my mods folder again, in that sort of mood

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I don't download entire overhauls, I just download loads of smaller changes to the game and compile them to make my own. it's like a mix tape

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I really hope beyond improves the clouds

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we still don't have what the next trailer showed us

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rayrod's cloud thing came the closest

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but I think something happened to it or something

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and it wasn't exactly the same as the trailer because there was a banding effect I think?

maiden flame Mar 24, 2019, 8:59 PM

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So what is the best mod for next so far?

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In terms of planet generation?

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Ok ill search that

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How big of a difference does it make?

supple wadi Mar 24, 2019, 9:25 PM

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i should just only mod foundation, lol

steel crypt Mar 24, 2019, 10:04 PM

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https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968

Updated MOD_DUD_DeadColors_v1776:
Added several dirt colors.
Changed all plant and leaf colors.
Added 12 RockSaturated, RockLight, and RockDark colors.

Nexus Mods :: No Man's Sky

DUD'S SKY - COLORS

Grass, plant, sand, water, snow, & more... color mod. Compatible with NMS v1.77

hearty wasp Mar 24, 2019, 10:50 PM

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sometimes modularity means compatibility and in that case fixing 1 big mod with 1 sort of compatibility is considerably better than fixing 20 compatibility issues

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I already am making 2 versions of Eucli-ea metadata and I dislike it cos people are prone to not read installation instructions, leading to improper installation, and then like to proceed to complaining when they install shit wrong

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not to mention fixing the same thing 20 times

steel crypt Mar 25, 2019, 12:29 AM

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as long as you don't go "too far" 😛

hearty wasp Mar 25, 2019, 1:21 AM

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lmao

median pewter Mar 25, 2019, 10:38 AM

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Easy quick mod for people that hate waiting for Fleet missions.
https://nomansskymods.com/mods/complete-fleet-missions-instantly/

hearty wasp Mar 25, 2019, 4:09 PM

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toilets

📎 20190325235832_1.jpg

steel crypt Mar 25, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Nice. Now you just need to make that crapping mod...crap my pants mod or whatever. You crap your pants and use toilet to remove stain.

wooden cobalt Mar 25, 2019, 6:08 PM

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does reduced launch cost still work?

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also does this still work?

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https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/616?tab=files

harsh moth Mar 25, 2019, 6:30 PM

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i'd actually wanted not vignette-like hazard but whole screen

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Especially freezing

wooden cobalt Mar 25, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Does anyone have an updated version of the learnmorewords mod?

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I tried using the lua updater but it doesnt seem to do anything

harsh moth Mar 25, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Ah ye rairod praiser xd

lime mesa Mar 25, 2019, 11:37 PM

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I’d lay off a bit. Seems a little passive aggressive

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(To Ablo. and Exchy)

hearty wasp Mar 26, 2019, 12:50 AM

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it's ok cos they're talking about rayrod

obsidian tree Mar 26, 2019, 1:47 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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blender render of imported models looking a bit nicer 😃

maiden flame Mar 26, 2019, 8:19 AM

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Blender huh?

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I used that

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Its great

median pewter Mar 26, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Mod Release: Purchase all frigates “Fleet ships” - https://nomansskymods.com/mods/purchase-all-frigates-fleet-ships/

hearty wasp Mar 26, 2019, 9:05 AM

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you should put the mod on Nexus as well

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if you haven't already

median pewter Mar 26, 2019, 9:15 AM

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okay

obsidian tree Mar 26, 2019, 12:32 PM

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Yeah. Was working on having it read the materials data in a smarter way so that things metallicity etc are read and rendered correctly in blender

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Will hopefully look real nice

median pewter Mar 26, 2019, 1:02 PM

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Mod Release: Increased Fleet Purchase Distance - https://nomansskymods.com/mods/increased-fleet-purchase-distance/

I have also made a Mod pack for anyone using more than one of my Fleet Mod.

left nacelle Mar 26, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Can we get mods on PS4

unreal jolt Mar 26, 2019, 2:22 PM

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What kind of mod is possible on No man sky?

hearty wasp Mar 26, 2019, 3:13 PM

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anything not adding new mechanics

timber lark Mar 26, 2019, 3:15 PM

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if only there were a way to hook a dll into NMS and gain access to lower-level functionality. sigh

hearty wasp Mar 26, 2019, 3:15 PM

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there was back at launch

timber lark Mar 26, 2019, 3:16 PM

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oh really?

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I had no idea

hearty wasp Mar 26, 2019, 3:16 PM

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no one gave a shit about updating it

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and most people just complained about mods not working without actually doing anything else so it was lost in time blob

timber lark Mar 26, 2019, 3:17 PM

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ah, thats a shame

wooden cobalt Mar 26, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Why isn't new mechanics possible?

hearty wasp Mar 26, 2019, 4:22 PM

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because no one is arsed to do it

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because the required effort far outweighs the effect of the outcome

thick robin Mar 26, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Can you add a custom ship design to the game?

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Hiw would you go about doing that

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I dont have a model yet, I just want to know how it's done to see if I can do it

hearty wasp Mar 26, 2019, 4:59 PM

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you make a model

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you reference it in the spaceship scene of your choosing

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you try to attach a cockpit to your ship

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you fail multiple times and hold back tears

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and hopefully you finally succeed by figuring out how the cockpit works

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cos Krem ain't gonna teach no one anymore

thick robin Mar 26, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Neat

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Sounds simple enough

hearty wasp Mar 26, 2019, 5:02 PM

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and if you are too lazy to make your own models you can update MoarShips for Krem first

thick robin Mar 26, 2019, 5:03 PM

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I'm learning modeling for a class anyways, so I might aswell try to make one

hearty wasp Mar 26, 2019, 5:03 PM

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sure but people would be a lot happier if you update that mod along the way is what I'm saying

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I'd do it but I can't even move the viewing camera in blender

thick robin Mar 26, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Lol

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I'll look Into it

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But I haven't made any mods before

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Although I have plenty of free time

hearty wasp Mar 26, 2019, 5:04 PM

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I haven't made any mods 1.5 years ago

hushed bronze Mar 26, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Since or until?

harsh moth Mar 26, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Like excluding possible answers from "ask directions" and barter something

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Is it?

maiden flame Mar 26, 2019, 8:35 PM

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what ver of back to foundations is the best?

wooden cobalt Mar 26, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Is their a mod that makes the stars more distinct?

obsidian tree Mar 26, 2019, 9:14 PM

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The stars are literally just a skysphere texture...

wooden cobalt Mar 26, 2019, 9:25 PM

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I mainly ment the color

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idk if im color blind but they just all look the same to me

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On the galaxy map,

hushed bronze Mar 26, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Well, they arent terribly distinct until you get close anyway

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ONE thing I can tell you if it helps is that all of the "colored" stars, Green Red and Blue, are Huge compared to the yellows which are small

rotund vine Mar 26, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Modders, is it possible to change the graphics in the current version to something like we had pre-next

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Just colors don't do justice

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It helps, but since the lighting and stuff are still from post-next it won't give the same look

obsidian tree Mar 26, 2019, 11:11 PM

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Oh sorry, I misread your message. There was a colourblindness mod which changed the colours, but it is pretty easy to change them yourself if you want

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 12:30 AM

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@rotund vine Using the Back To Foundations assets pack helps too, it fixes the borked grass

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BtF is three parts and you can keep or drop any of them so I use the assets part as just a grass fix 😄

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 12:45 AM

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@wooden cobalt This shows star colors further away on the galactic map. Updated for 1.75, unknown if it's 1.77 compatible. https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/374

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@rotund vine I've been fooling around with modding these kinds of things myself. Unfortunately there's really a ton of changes all over that add up to the huge visual difference in Next. Terrain palettes & textures, sky palettes, water palettes, object textures, screen filters, etc. "Back to Foundations" is a good start for some pre-Next nostalgic feelings.

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Textures are the most prohibitive part... I've had success using some 1.38 textures in 1.77, but it's impractical (and probably illegal) to make a mod available that does that.

obsidian tree Mar 27, 2019, 1:11 AM

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you'd be fine to use old game assets in a mod for the same game

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in other news, still improving the importer 😃

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smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 1:26 AM

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It's not just the iffyness of essentially making a bunch of game assets publically available, the sheer size of the files becomes impractical.

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:26 AM

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But the textures aren't among the biggest factors in play there I imagine

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Its colors and shaders mostly, i think

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Unless people are itching for the old school ship textures

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 1:28 AM

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It's mostly terrain & some foliage/rock textures I was thinking of.

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:29 AM

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Terrain textures, you mean?

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 1:32 AM

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Yup. The colors don't seem as difficult, the palettes can be fairly easily replaced with older versions. Next seems to use most of the colors the same way as AR.

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:32 AM

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My personal issue is that prenext colors weren't exactly infallible either

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people get sidetracked trying to replicate something across two different lighting systems

supple wadi Mar 27, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Argh mentioned a little of that in the legacy channel, some experiments around avoiding the uglier aspects of it

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 1:34 AM

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Yeah, copypasta: There's an interesting possibility for better palettes I learned looking at thegamer3006's color mods... NMS can define different variations of a main biome as "subbiomes". It's currently used in the game for frozen/hqfrozen and barren/hqbarren variants. This means you can duplicate a biome definition many times, but give each a different set of limited compatible palette choices. This could allow a lot of variation, while still maintaining more control to avoid the clown-barf style clashes. That's the angle I'm currently exploring.

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Sounds good

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 1:35 AM

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I think overall I'd like some kind of compromise between the two versions. I'm still quite early in my experiments tho

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:36 AM

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But I hope you're prepared for a lot of manual effort becauce none of that is automatic

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Every attempt to shortcut that work so far turns into either trainwrecks or clown barf

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Yeah, I've already written a couple small utils to import/export various palettes into photoshop editable formats. I'll eventually try to polish those a bit and make them available to other modders.

supple wadi Mar 27, 2019, 1:37 AM

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arguably the same with variety, at least imo
although that's also the case even with manual effort

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Yep

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And ofc the work I had put in before vanished

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like... without a trace lol

supple wadi Mar 27, 2019, 1:38 AM

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but short of creating new assets yourself i don't think i'd really be happy with any variety improvement mods so 🤷

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:38 AM

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I think I overwrote it with a homework assignment by accident lol

supple wadi Mar 27, 2019, 1:38 AM

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wat

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:39 AM

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I was tracking my colors in a word doc

obsidian tree Mar 27, 2019, 1:39 AM

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one thing to remember between looking at old stuff and new stuff is that how the shader handles some textures has changed a little bit between maybe 1.2 and now

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:39 AM

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dies

supple wadi Mar 27, 2019, 1:39 AM

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oooh

obsidian tree Mar 27, 2019, 1:39 AM

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if you are just doing colours of palettes you may be fine, but if you try and use old textures they may look weird

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:39 AM

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Im personally not interested in textures mods, they're fine I say

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Argh wants some texture tricks

supple wadi Mar 27, 2019, 1:40 AM

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yeeaahh, in some/a lot of cases i'm pretty sure any texture changes would probably need some accompanying shader adjustments to achieve desired effects

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well, depending on desired effects

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 1:41 AM

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Yeah I tried some old terrain textures out and they seemed okay, but I kinda dismissed that idea. I've had some success with tweaking some of the tree textures n stuff tho. Next desaturated a bunch, been able to restore some color.

supple wadi Mar 27, 2019, 1:41 AM

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if reversion is what one's after particularly

obsidian tree Mar 27, 2019, 1:41 AM

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I'm currently playing around with partially implementing the uber shader into blender as a node material

supple wadi Mar 27, 2019, 1:42 AM

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issue i find with current textures is really just intertwined with current/recent objects tbh

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which is simply that they're more static by design

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:47 AM

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whats the uber shader?

supple wadi Mar 27, 2019, 1:47 AM

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a thicc shader what does a lot

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(seriously, that's the simplest explanation i have, it's just one of the shaders that tends to handle a lot across various objects in the game)

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 1:48 AM

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is it a shader used in nms?

supple wadi Mar 27, 2019, 1:48 AM

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yeah

obsidian tree Mar 27, 2019, 1:49 AM

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it's the shader that basically delegates other shaders to be used

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(is what I understand)

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uberfragment does a lot of the actual calculations

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ubercommon.h is the header which handles what is defined for what

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I'm actually editing the info on the modding wiki wrt some material parameters it looks like we have wrong...

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 1:55 AM

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I couldn't seem to save a working custom terrain texture, based on the wiki specs or anything else I tried. I was using the old nvidia dds plugin though, didn't realize there was a newer intel one. I haven't tried that yet.

obsidian tree Mar 27, 2019, 1:57 AM

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yeah, no-one has ever managed to get it to work

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the hsv file is the one that is the problem

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:01 AM

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crazy

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 2:02 AM

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I dream of randomizing the color of sentinel paint

supple wadi Mar 27, 2019, 2:07 AM

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i would think that should be an "easier" task than ground textures, at the very least

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Maybe

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You never know before trying, which thing is gonna be absurdly more difficult than expected, lol

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:08 AM

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@smoky wing That's actually what I was playing with. The sub pallets. I was looking at doing the different NMS versions as subs, but the colors would have to be mostly reworked because it doesn't have the same filter/shaders applied and the colors don't look like they did in that game version.

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But yeah, at that point you pretty much have whatever control you want.

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Hey man. Yeah, that's what I've found too.

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:11 AM

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I don't know any easy way to know the color numbers with the old shader applied.

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I mean it would be applied to all the colors the same, so it might not be too hard to manually do it to the whole pallet at once by looking at it "in game" and tweaking the whole pallet.....?

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:15 AM

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That's a cool idea to do the versions as subbiomes. I've mostly been playing with mixing Next + AR colors, which definitely needs tweaking to get them in the same general range.

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:15 AM

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I've been looking at the old color pallets and trying them... and they are just weird with the current shaders.

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Yeah, they just weren't designed for the current textures/shaders. What did you mean about knowing the color numbers?

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:19 AM

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I may be wrong, but if the shader, which was more consistent (now there are different ones per planet etc.) is applying a HSV variance to the whole pallet (that is used on a planet) then I think the whole pallet could be adjusted at once by creating the pallet in say paint.net etc. and tweaking the HSV values for the whole thing, then using those colors to get numbers from.

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It's a lot of work though lol

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I mean if you like neon, you could just import them as is because baby they are neon.

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Oh, right the screen filter shaders. For now I've basically disabled mine. Changed everything in METADATA/EFFECTS/SCREENFILTERS.EXML to DEFAULT.DDS

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:22 AM

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If you are going to have them that way, then it probably could be done how I'm saying?

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But you are going to need to compare them to the originals which had a shader applied. Like trying to make the original pallet+shader into just pallet.

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Oh I think I get what you're saying, you mean try to reverse the effects of the filters on the palette colors themselves?

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:25 AM

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exactly

obsidian tree Mar 27, 2019, 2:25 AM

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@steel crypt I can send you the shader folders for the versions you are looking at...

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Were talking about the screen color filters, the stuff in METADATA/EFFECTS, and TEXTURES/LUT/FILTERS

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:27 AM

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MUCH thanks dude, but I am not good enough with shaders to attempt to add those as variants....LOL that is Lo2K or lawnreality

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Hrmm, lemmie check somethin...

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:29 AM

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I don't know if there might be info in the shaders that will point to exactly what HSV values it changes? Or something that could be converted to tell you? Dunno shaders much.

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I know it's not usually that simple

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The only way I would know how to do it is manually look at screenshots.....blah blah blah, and adjust them.....PITA

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Okay, it looks like you might not have to do that reversal if you use subbiomes. At the bottom of the biome definition file it sets the name of the filter for that biome type. So if you define a subbiome for an older version, you should be able to just specify the default filter, or leave it blank like "<Property name="FilterOptions" />"

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The old colors would still look very different though, like you said it's all neon, lol.

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:36 AM

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Right, you can use whatever current shader including "default" for a biome/sub, but there used to be a different shader on the older versions. Say 1.1 or 1.2 had a different shader than 1.7, so "default" is not the old "default" and it made the colors different. If you use the old pallets with 1.7 (current version) then it doesn't have say the 1.2 shader in action, so different looking colors. You would have to (without using the old shader somehow in this version as a sub biome shader???) adjust the old pallets to be the "same looking" with the current shader. Which I think would just be a HSV change to the whole pallet. Am I making any sense?

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Oh okay, I see. Yeah I think the new default is more contrasty, I think Atlas Rises may just be "identity"?

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So you basically want to make the old palettes also work with the new filters?

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:41 AM

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The easy way would be to define the old shader in the sub biome, somehow inject the old shader into use, and make sub biomes with the old pallets as they are. I just am not good enough with shaders to do it. But if the shader could be added then it could be just used (defined) in the sub biome file. Problem solved.

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Yeah, okay that's what I was getting at.

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Well I don't really care for it much, but people would like it I think, to have all the versions in one version....per planet.

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:42 AM

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So then the trick is trying to get ahold of the old filter

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:44 AM

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getting the old filter is easy......putting it into use is the tricky part.....maybe tricky....I just don't know. It might be as easy as giving it a name in the shader definitions and using it.....it might be as hard as trying to fuse it into the current shaders somehow...?

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:46 AM

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I think it's probably the easier way. The filters are really just RGB lookup tables, so they're more straightforward. Looking at the files, I think most of the 1.3 ones are still there. And "vintage" basically emulates the really old versions.

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:47 AM

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I mean there are people that have the old files, but you would first have to know the name of that particular shader file by looking in the old biome files or something.

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So, you think they are still in the files and can be chosen for a sub biome? like they have a different name than the current ones?

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Is it that freakin easy?

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If that is the case, then it might be pretty easy to make it.

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Oh and hey, DUD'S SKY - colors has a bunch of custom colors in it if you want to use them or anything.....

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:50 AM

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I still have 1.3 installed so let me try to find where those filters are packed... see if I can confirm.

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:50 AM

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This is interesting.....

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:51 AM

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Thanks, I like your mod, I usually download the latest of that to wander around in from time to time 😃

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:51 AM

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I wonder if the old biome files....hold on a sec.....

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Where is the old shader defined for the biomes......I don't see it in 1.1 or 1.2...maybe it's just one I think ....a global shader?

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 2:58 AM

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In 1.3+, the filters are in TEXTURES/LUT/FILTERS. They're dds volume textures.

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I have no idea about the older versions

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 2:59 AM

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I know nothing much at all about textures. does it define a RGB value?

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Okay I just checked, all the 1.3 filters are also still in 1.5+. They're unchanged, so the default is the same.

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Yeah, they're basically just lookup tables. A 3d array R,G,B, that shifts the original color to a new value

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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I have been messing with 1.1 and 1.2 colors. They seem different. I wonder if those versions had a different filter? I distinctly remember the color tones, and have screenshots that don't seem to match the colors at all......maybe it's the light shaders? I dunno.

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Well 1.1 still had that yellow filter didn't it? I assume that's what the "vintage" filter is.

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I think the bigger problem in Next is that there's a bunch of changes everywhere that really add up. Not just the planet filters, but the new textures, the lighting, etc. Makes it very hard to try to duplicate the older versions.

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Right. I guess it might be the vintage. That was the only super distinct filter difference I remember, but it seems like 1.2 had something different than the current default. Looking at screenshots, it looks different. 1.3 (atlas rises right?) when everything went to short trees with neon leaves? That version forward seems to use the same filter.

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You are correct....yes with the things adding up. I agree, very hard to make it exact.

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Maybe 1.2 didn't have any filter then? That would be the same as the current "identity" filter.

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 3:11 AM

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"identity"?

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Yeah, just returns the same color that gets put in.

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Okay, which is different than the current "default" filter correct?

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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I don't think it's available in the photo menu or anything, but the file is there. Yeah, the current default filter is different, it's brighter / higher-contrast

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Okay. It might be that. I'm trying to account for the differences in texture, light, etc. and....that might be it, because it just seemed like it was too bright, too much contrast....exactly. That might be rather easy then. Copy the old pallets into sub biomes, and define the identity filter for the 1.2 stuff maybe and the vintage for the 1.1 maybe? Doesn't seem too hard actually.

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Worth a try!

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 3:17 AM

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It's your baby if you want it......I might not have time anytime soon. If I find myself having time (yeah right) and you haven't done it, I might give it a go.

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Gotta crash. Nice talk dude. PM me if you can use my pallets...color boards...or anything related.

smoky wing Mar 27, 2019, 3:19 AM

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The version subbiomes was your idea. I'm prolly gonna keep trying to mix stuff together for now. Okay cool, cya later man!

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 3:20 AM

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👍

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 9:20 PM

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I would love to get some help understanding this sub-biomes method

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I'm not much of a programmer so Simpler stuff can stump me much easier than it would an actual coder

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I pretty much have to use the mod station to be able to even make sense of the organization, lol

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 10:50 PM

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@hushed bronze I understand the concept, but haven't taken time to implement it...see what exactly I would need to do. I mean I can explain what I think might need to happen.

hushed bronze Mar 27, 2019, 10:51 PM

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no worries. I usually think I should be making ship models or something.... people already did colors like 7 times

steel crypt Mar 27, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Haha okay, fair. Just lemme know, I'll help when I can.

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Doing a test on adding a new subbiome now...

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okay, that crashed, lol

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oh, dumb mistake, forgot to recompile my changes

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 1:21 AM

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boooooooom

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lol

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being a nonprogrammer I cant even tell you sometimes I lose hours to something stupid any coder would have noticed

topaz oxide Mar 28, 2019, 1:22 AM

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booooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOM?

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 1:22 AM

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any way is it just me or does lighter rock look WAAAAY better?

📎 20190327191556_1.jpg

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📎 20190327192122_1.jpg

brittle zinc Mar 28, 2019, 1:23 AM

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no

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 1:23 AM

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no?

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darn

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 1:28 AM

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I like both

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 1:36 AM

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well they're on the same setting it was two diff examples of the same thing

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Well, getting wonky results atm... Seems to recognize my new subbiome, but it's not using my custom palette.

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 1:37 AM

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see what you did?

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you broke everything

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I thought I raised you better than that

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Ahh, I think I figured out the issue... The forceboime debug option only works with known subbiome names. I was using an arbitrary number value. (sigh, more testing needed...)

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 2:42 AM

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aww

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So in Notepad++ in the find/replace feature is there a way I can do a sort of "find 0.32" "replace with (original number *1.3) ? some sort of logic based switch like that?

supple wadi Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 AM

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regex

heavy merlin Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 AM

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Nah, can't do calculations with regex...

supple wadi Mar 28, 2019, 2:48 AM

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yeah, would have to just run the calcs and then replace with results

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Man, now I'm crashing again... sigh... how the heck did the color overhaul do this successfully, can't see what I missed. 😛

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Because that guy is exceptionally skilled at what he does. Just wish he had the patience to include some quality control over the results

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Dont you love when you go looking for the single-character fuckup you accidentally made somewhere and actually find it?

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 3:18 AM

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heh

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Oh! Duh! So we can use any of the known valid subbiome names to make new ones (there's 18), so yay for that. But looking at thegamer's mod, he made hundreds of subbiomes and he just used numbers for their names. When I tried to do that, the game kept crashing. But I forgot he also made a crash fix! So now I examined that, and he also had to change all his numbers to known valid names. However, that reused the same names repeatedly, which might mean most of his palettes aren't even being used. Now I'll have to test that out, see what happens with duplicate names.

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And yeah I agree some quality control would really help his mods.

supple wadi Mar 28, 2019, 3:39 AM

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lol

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 3:41 AM

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Well, they kinda take everything plus the kitchen sink approaches. You get some lovely planets right next to others that are like melted crayon boxes :}

supple wadi Mar 28, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Oh no, i get it, the lol is at the "fix" which basically goes back to what really works

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 3:43 AM

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ahh yeah

supple wadi Mar 28, 2019, 3:44 AM

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But also yeah, many of the broader mods have the issue of quality control falling to bits

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This on top of them basically banking on the specific hardware specs of the modder involved doesn't help things

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Since sometimes they'll push things that work well on higher end hardware, but crash & burn on middling to lower end hardware

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Heh yeah, the hardware thang can be a problem for a lower-spec system like mine :/

supple wadi Mar 28, 2019, 3:45 AM

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What's a bummer is that HG isn't much better at times 👀

hearty wasp Mar 28, 2019, 3:56 AM

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I mean the worse HG can do is crash my game when I haven't installed Eucli-ea with all those IDs littered within the save

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and occasionally un-optimise base object loading blob

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also when you're working alone and making everything by yourself it can be hard find faults until someone points it out

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and that's why I have Project Facade as an excuse to make people beta test my mod 😩

supple wadi Mar 28, 2019, 4:01 AM

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aayy

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 5:02 AM

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Honestly when I use gamers mods I see repeats al ot so prob

thin viper Mar 28, 2019, 5:40 AM

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That's because the game doesn't seem to pick any of the other files

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Visions update changed how you can add stuff. Now it only allows you to add around 15 new entries

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So obviously I can't add any more than that

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 6:00 AM

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Ive been seeing repeats since well before visions

thin viper Mar 28, 2019, 6:37 AM

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There was roughly one month where the mod worked properly before visions

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 7:15 AM

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Can confirm, my testing tonight showed what I expected - duplicate subbiome names just override previous definitions. Bummer. Wish I'd seen you on earlier, I could have just asked you about it instead of repeating the work to test it all.

thin viper Mar 28, 2019, 7:15 AM

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I had the same issue

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Even the mbincompiler maker took time to figure it out

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If only hg just tells the changes they make

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All this can be avoided

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 7:17 AM

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Yeah. Man, I really wish we'd get a more proper mod sdk from HG, or like you said some better documentation.

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Just started playing around with all this and it's definitely a slog to learn sometimes.

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I'm thinking the biome limitations might still not be too bad for expanding palettes. Hell, the game itself only uses one set per biome. I still have hope multiples can be used to craft a better, more "artistic" series of palettes.

thin viper Mar 28, 2019, 7:25 AM

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So far any new method just crashes the game

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🙃

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 7:38 AM

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Well yeah apparently. :} But still, there's 17-18 additional unused ones for each normal biome, right? Should be enough to create a bunch of nice new palettes.

thin viper Mar 28, 2019, 7:41 AM

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Yeah kinda

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 7:52 AM

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if only I had a fraction of your coding ability 😃

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Color mods: fun, but very time consuming

📎 20190328020018_1.jpg

smoky wing Mar 28, 2019, 8:02 AM

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very pre-Nexty

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 8:04 AM

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Im still using the BTF asset pack because next doesnt know how to accomplish grass coverage

noble cove Mar 28, 2019, 8:14 AM

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Wats uo moddess

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 8:14 AM

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explosions

lime mesa Mar 28, 2019, 8:33 AM

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I would love to use the assets pack of BTF but I can't stand those trees that follow you

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Terrain seems to get the job done

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the colours are nice but I like DUD's colours along with the NEXT colours

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 8:34 AM

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I dont have any particular love for the trees, I just hate the failed grass of Next

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And I have every intention of pastels / dark / bright / ashy colors

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purple is just where I started after the wheat color

lime mesa Mar 28, 2019, 8:35 AM

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What's the difference between the next grass and the foundations grass?

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I'm asking genuinely

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 8:35 AM

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I can show you, in a few min...

lime mesa Mar 28, 2019, 8:36 AM

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since I don't remember foundations grass at all

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alright

hearty wasp Mar 28, 2019, 8:36 AM

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there's definitely more variety in height for grass for sure

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 8:40 AM

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📎 20190328023800_1.jpg

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📎 20190328023935_1.jpg

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I call that there,

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A HUGE FUCKUP

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@lime mesa

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@hearty wasp

hearty wasp Mar 28, 2019, 8:41 AM

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that too

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 8:41 AM

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I want to figure out exactly the part of BtF that fixes grass coverage and just extract that as its own mod

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Thats like "healthy dog vs. dog with Mange"

thin viper Mar 28, 2019, 8:44 AM

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Lmao

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 8:46 AM

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The short grass would probably look amazing if it had the forced high angle high density like that top pic

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Its the reason Ive hated the short grass, because it takes the above huge fuckup and just amplifies it

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So yeah all my mod tests look really pre-next style because it stole the Foundation trees because I cant deal with that damn mangy-dog grass

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I'm just glad that mod got made

hearty wasp Mar 28, 2019, 8:50 AM

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you gotta wonder why HG made that choice

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maybe to avoid upside down grass

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 8:53 AM

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That's like sacrificing your firstborn daughter so that men won't give her creepy looks

hearty wasp Mar 28, 2019, 8:55 AM

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wouldn't be the first time for HG

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 8:57 AM

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no kidding lol

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Im sure some similar reason was why we got color cut to four

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then upgraded to 8

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like.... whhhhhyyyyyyyy

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would you think that was okay

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Did they think people wouldn't notice?

thin viper Mar 28, 2019, 9:05 AM

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Thing is outside of social media and forums,the average "gamer" don't notice that

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 9:07 AM

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Thats cuz they didnt know

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they didn't knowww....

thin viper Mar 28, 2019, 9:08 AM

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🤷

hushed bronze Mar 28, 2019, 9:09 AM

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Im betting a lot of people got bored and bailed without noticing the lack of colors because they noticed every planet looks the same, just didnt figure out exactly whty

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I think someone was probably smashed for time and they put this new and improved graphics core in and it fucked all the old stuff and whoever was responsible for suddenly replacing the entire color system had to take some shortcuts

thin viper Mar 28, 2019, 9:16 AM

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Most people just play any game for 30 hours max

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This game exactly gives that

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If I have never heard of nms,then now bought it and played it for a few hours

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I would never notice

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Hg play test stuff

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For long times

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I presume

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Obviously they push out stuff only if qa goes ahead

lime mesa Mar 28, 2019, 9:18 AM

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which one is next?

thin viper Mar 28, 2019, 9:18 AM

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The less grass one

lime mesa Mar 28, 2019, 9:18 AM

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OH

harsh moth Mar 28, 2019, 10:07 AM

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Do we have "no stars" mod or something alike?

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like in reality you would see no stars

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(in space)

lime mesa Mar 28, 2019, 10:08 AM

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there is black space

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but

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it has stars

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Why do you want no stars tho

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It adds to the aesthetic of the game

harsh moth Mar 28, 2019, 10:09 AM

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i want no stars to be seen in space, as it would be irl

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yeah i sacrifice stars while on planet

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but in space, you see no stars

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May someone know where that texture is

lime mesa Mar 28, 2019, 10:11 AM

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so you want space realism in a game that doesn't follow realism birb

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birb

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That's cool

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But you won't find it anywhere