nms-modding

[dreamy tulip]

I remember seeing on NexusMods once... where an author wrote "This contains, (x) user's method of doing this and that with npc's. Therefore, you are not allowed by any means to make use of this apart from this mod". Meanwhile, turns out that 1. These are in-game assets and 2. It's HelloGames method; and there were literally doing that in old demo files still floating around in the filesystem from pre-release. Therefore, they own nothing and they cannot say that.

I found that quite humerous lol

[lime mesa]

Is there a "moveobjects on

oh, hit enter too early

basically, is there a mod to place anything anywhere? Building is so weird

Making a container room was pure pain, also i can't plant in bio dome if there is a fundament under it

[hearty wasp]

Anywhere on a planet yeah, and you don't need a mod for that, just turn on RemoceBaseBuildingRestrictions in yiur graphics settings file

Anywhere in the space station, no

Containers are a special case afaik, it's a building type that can't be plonked down on the ground by itself, and you do need a mod for that

Probably can change it to the same one as cube rooms and make it able to put it on the planet ground, but it'll restrict placement of em indoors

[lime mesa]

It would be cool to have a mod that removes "invalid position", but it probably is not posssible, seems like a hardcoded thing

still building anywhere on a planet is nice

[dreamy tulip]

@lime mesa Hi

In regard to 'Invalid Position'

Where exactly are you referring to?

Is it when you attempt to place certain objects on the ground?

[lime mesa]

Placing ramp on a paving, also making a building with containers on the first floor, maybe i should try making it 2 cubes tall instead of 1

[dreamy tulip]

Ah, I see. Well, I created a mod that removes all the restrictions (filebased) relating to basebuilding. If you'd like to give it a try. I can extract it from my fan project.
Also, I do recommend using what Winder suggested. I am aware that some things are hardcoded. I did make a .dll based mod that would get injected into the memory (when added to the binaries folder) and turn off the hardcoded restriction that prevented placing objects in mid air... but I have not updated that for NEXT yet.

[lime mesa]

My game already has a lot of mods so I see no problems with using another one , also is that project an overhaul? (i kinda have that mod page in bookmarks in case it will be updated)

[young solstice]

I wonder if it's possible to make a "sell this starship" mod...

[dreamy tulip]

Oh, the 'RaYRoD's Overhaul' mod?

Yeah, I am working on a NEXT version - which will be under a new name/title for the mod. However, the new version will be a fresh new take and superior to all old custom nms multi-build hybrids that I've made from scratch.

Here is a video, photo album of the some worlds on the pre-NEXT version with my work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wctlrXOCukM

And here's the mod that you'd like to try:

[drowsy lagoon]

base restrictions like....build anywhere and any size?

[sudden meteor]

Is the Save Editor stable? Not gonna crash my game? Do I have to be offline to use it?

[young solstice]

it's stable...and you keep the stuff in multiplayer

[sudden meteor]

That seems broken, but I'll take it. I just want a better freighter 😢

• broken in a fabulous way

[hearty wasp]

just use the json editor

there might be new shit in the save in the new experimental so GUI might not work

haven't tried myself tho

[drowsy lagoon]

works for me just fine!

and it also do auto update now!

[hearty wasp]

nice to know

[bronze mantle]

dang, I wish the save editor would add some json functions to the GUI though

Pick Current Ship/Exocraft

[gleaming dew]

What are some of the go to mods that people are using with 1.55.

[hearty wasp]

just learn how to read json

[hallow pumice]

No u

[hearty wasp]

I mean, I did

how do you think I made my AR freighter base into my legacy base

[hallow pumice]

I was just using a shitty joke 😞

[lusty shadow]

@rugged trail but do the wild plants take the same time to grow as the others?

[lethal solstice]

Today I am proud to announce the biggest update I ever made (yet) for DS96_GameplayOverhaul.
Introducing a new way of navigating : Water vehicle (bike affected only)

This bike mimics the physics of a boat in the most possible way, You can go on land but the vehicle is gonna hate you for it!
Also, remember my old mod PlanetLifePro ? Well, it's fully merged with this mod now!
Another mod integration is AdaptiveTerrain, yup, the mod that fixes some little annoyances while placing concrete/wood/metal tiles. Please be aware that Adaptive Terrain is still udner development so if you have any basebuilding terrain related issues (like a part doesn't flatten terrain enough), make sure to tell me. Eg : Glass corridor : Flattening area is too small/too large. And don't forget a screenshot if possible.

Have fun! -DawnShadow.

[dreamy tulip]

@drowsy lagoon It removes the biome specific restriction (in relation to certain specific basebuilding objects), alongside disabling the cap on maximum amount of global, system, planet, and region objects that can be spawned in-game. The exocraft garages also don't remove the grass (as I found it a bit unnecesarry). There's some other adjustments, but it's a pre-NEXT file that I updated. There is another thing that I made, which disabled a hardcoded check; thus allowing you to build anywhere, even in mid air. I haven't updated that yet. Just to answer your question

[lethal solstice]

Current issues : bikes (Nomads) drives underwater. i would like to know if the majority of you players would like me to change that or not.
The Nomad vehicle tends to somewhat bounces a bit if idle.

[lusty shadow]

would it be possible to mod the Heart of Gold someday?

[lethal solstice]

Wym?

[toxic goblet]

Spaceship from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

[lethal solstice]

I still don't get it...

[toxic goblet]

http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Heart_of_Gold

[lethal solstice]

Oof i cant do it

[toxic goblet]

Modding in the actual Infinite Improbably Drive will likely be impossible, but I suppose the ship model can be spliced in.

[lethal solstice]

Going to be massive...

I see that more like a freighter...

[spice agate]

@dreamy tulip Is you still working on the NEXT version of your mod? q.q

[fresh trail]

I mean

He just said he was 14 hours ago

😛

[rotund yoke]

i m missing the hovercraft mod.

that let me travel massive distance on a exocraft.

in atlas rises.

[lethal solstice]

Performance issue patch is coming soon for DS96_GameplayOverhaul.

@rotund yoke In the update v1r10 there is going to be a rebalance for ground vehicles. :) You surely will be happy about it.

[rotund yoke]

hmm, will have to see about that then.

[lethal solstice]

:)

[spice agate]

Pewpew? q.q

[bronze mantle]

@toxic goblet You know, that actually seems to be what the Anomaly resembles most.

So it would be kinda neat, and very thematic, to have a reskin/remodel of the Anomaly...

[rotund yoke]

this is a known bug of "adaptive terrain" , right? @lethal solstice
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471868642204712971/479537694524047370/20180816120038_1.jpg

[languid raptor]

I have an idea for a mod:

A mod that adds to the build menu all the structures and items u can unlock with the blueprint analyzer that don't appear in the build menu

Like this

This one even has a recipe already, but it isn't in the build menu so I can't make it

[hearty wasp]

Just

Edit your save

You can just add all blueprints with one button using the save editor

[languid raptor]

I have the blueprint

It isn't in the menu

[hearty wasp]

Then it's not a product you can build, gotcha

[languid raptor]

But it even has a recipe :(

[hearty wasp]

Then it must just be you not finding it in the menus lol

[languid raptor]

Why do such things exist? Is it simply to torment those of us who want something smaller than a cargo container to hold their stuff?

[hearty wasp]

Uhh, that green box doesn't hold stuff

[languid raptor]

Its not in the menus, but pinning the recipe from the guide gives u the list of materials needed

This box is yellow

[hearty wasp]

So you can build the green box?

[languid raptor]

I can build the green box

This box is not in the menu, it is a yellow box

[hearty wasp]

Ahh, the decor that does fuckall

I just didn't give a shit about ut cos I add my own version of it in Eucliea, sorry

[languid raptor]

According to this storage container's recipe, it costs 5 pure ferrite and an ion battery

And the description says it holds stuff

So basically this is the storage everyone wants but nobody can have

[hearty wasp]

Nah it's likely just the game fucking with you

Or to be more precise, HG

They just put obsolete shit in the build table all the time and not delete em later

[languid raptor]

That's pure agony

Why are we not allowed to have normal sized storage?

[hearty wasp]

Idk they're assholes

[languid raptor]

Lol

[hearty wasp]

Might make a small version myself

Entity is easy enough to attach lmao

[languid raptor]

Well some of the work is already done for u lol

[hearty wasp]

Aye, and I have safes already kitbashed from a year ago

[languid raptor]

U just gotta find the thing in the code

[hearty wasp]

Now I just need to uhh make 9 copies of it

[cloud grotto]

yeah the yellow storage box!

where is it???

I unlocked that one too and was wondering where it went

[hearty wasp]

it's comin back... with a shit ton of bugs

also strangely if a scene has some some mesh the game doesn't crash even if it has a reference that leads to a file that doesn't exist

wait wrong fuckin server

[dreamy tulip]

@rotund yoke Hi, when you say 'hover craft' mod. Do you mean, like a literaly hover craft custom model that used to be a thing? Or modified handling?

Ayeee @hearty wasp Glad to see that you are working on Eucli-ea again

I'm working on C# based mod automation, which will reduce a huge workload and explode my modding capabilities... perhaps, when I get around to the basebuilding table (which is nice, because the file is a dynamic list) - I can make something that would save you a ton of time as well

[wooden cobalt]

@dreamy tulip Mod Automation?

[supple wadi]

streamlining file changes/custom files instead of having to write out by hand

[rotund yoke]

the modified everything. the way that mod worked in atlas rises. handling, models, speed, jump, flying

[dreamy tulip]

Okay, was thinking that you were thinking of a literal 'hovercraft' mod that my friend and I had PRE-NEXT, at 3:44:
https://youtu.be/dFQPKcL1uA4

If it's strictly in terms of handling, dunno if it's it's your style, but I made a vehicle overhaul (not relevant to the video above), which does handle to nomad exocraft

You're welcome to give it a try if you'd like

[rotund yoke]

k, that's good. new exocraft bay.

where's that specific mod.

[lime mesa]

https://nomansskymods.com/mods/better-sparks/ This mod is great if you're tired of the old sparks

[shut ginkgo]

wait

is there a mod that actually fixes the snapping points when building

[delicate palm]

Is there any news on whether mods will be coming to consoles? Like, even if it's featured mods checked by Hello Games, will mods ever come - however limited - to consoles?

[dreamy tulip]

I am still planning to port over my fan project to the PS4 build that I have decrypted at some point, but it will take time (as I prioritize my PC build first)

[rotund yoke]

Snapping points fix, DawnShadow is working on.

[sudden meteor]

Can the Save editor be used while in a game? Or just before you load in

[obsidian tree]

save is only loaded when the game loads

[supple wadi]

Very low chances in any official capacities @delicate palm

[hearty wasp]

lmfao "fixing" snappoints, good luck with that

[hexed wing]

Does anyone know of a mod that fixes the "half-my-moon-is-inaccessible-due-to-planetary-rings" visual issue? I'd even be happy with a mod that removes all planetary rings.

[brisk bear]

same, planetary rings look so bad

[hearty wasp]

lo2k's version still looks better, objectively

been hearing the current rings are still shader based but we can only hope he tackles dem rings soon ™

[dreamy tulip]

The current rings are shader based, global based, other mbin based, material based, and some other things

[hearty wasp]

ah, so it's complicated

or a shitshow

[dreamy tulip]

There's a lot of really cool flexibility that they have and new features to them, but I wonder if they can be made to look really nice

I was doing this before: https://i.imgur.com/FyAR52e.png

https://i.imgur.com/Rmuw6MN.png

Just testing things with them, as the ring formations are curiously procedural; and can be manipulated

[round creek]

yo is there any mod that makes grass lush green again?
like this? https://i.imgur.com/Jk7TZ4b.jpg

[hearty wasp]

think someone was looking into it but haven't got much solid stuff yet

[hexed wing]

So likely not going to be something that will remove the rings from modville, given how all-over-the-place the changes would need to be?

(if it's even possible from the mod side of things)

I see someone has adjusted the visibility of distant planet rings viewed from on-planet... I was hoping it was just some kind of alpha setting. 😃

[hearty wasp]

it'll take time is all

with all the patches it's pretty wild rn

so many mods to update, so little time

[hexed wing]

Yeah, it's great that they're pushing out updates, but it must be rough on the folks who mod the game to be better when their changes break things.

I'm thankful people take the time to make the mods

[quartz cargo]

there is also a mod that changes ring colours to be shades of orange.

changes things up a bit, it's nice. Can't wait to see how people elaborate on them though.

[ashen brook]

Are there any mods for site to site transport ? I'm thinking of using portals instead of stairs/ladders for my base

[ashen brook]

Ahia! I found a fix for the interior stairs not matching the floor edge for the interior floor/roof platform.

Limited fix but still

Use a solid cuboid and don't use the floor/roof platform at all. Attach the stairs to cuboids only.

[sacred zealot]

Is there any mods that makes the grass appear from far away? And not only limited around you?

[hearty wasp]

nop

[lime mesa]

Did anyone edit biomepalettes? I was only able to replace values but not add new one. Was trying to fix expanded colour palettes (not my mod)

The idea was that instead of "lush biome - lush palette" it would be "lush biome - lush+frozen+scorched+dead etc".But the game sees only the first line, ignoring the others. Judging by comments it worked before the NEXT update.

[brisk bear]

Anyone know if 1.57 broke 1.55 mods?

[lime mesa]

it did, instant button reaction was broken

[brisk bear]

:(

[ashen brook]

Faaack found a bug already

[dreamy tulip]

The Generational Depth of RaYRoD's Multiverse: Coming Soon

https://justpaste.it/5c7xc

[simple jetty]

well i finally got the reshade program to work by disabling my laptops intergrated graphics card. I have a questiong and sorta problem when i hit Shift+f2 my cursor/mouse is stuck to the middle and doesn't allow me to move to select certain fx...if it does move it just goes back to the middle.

[dusk horizon]

Reshade in nms makes it look better?

I used for pubg ages ago lol

@simple jetty

[simple jetty]

well back then in 2016 i used it mainly for the clarity and sharpness and it did made it look better imo but rn i can't tell you since i can't seem to use it.

i'm pretty sure it would though since its pretty much the same from 2016 just with newer fx's

[slender thistle]

I was looking at some old rayrod pack videos

and I think I saw my mod being used in it

so thanks I guess for using my mod Rayrod

[obsidian tree]

Removing rings would be super simple I think. There is a single value which says what percentage of planets have rings. I assume if you make that 0 then there will be none...

[heavy merlin]

It does kind of seem like everyone complained about there being no ringed planets, now there's too many.

[simple jetty]

anyone know why this happens? I can't move the cursor to choose different fx sorta like its fixed on the middle and when i do move the cursor it just goes back to the middle. I hope its ok to post this here.

[gilded grotto]

you need to set ReShade back to block all mouse input while the config window is active

[simple jetty]

any idea where i could do that or how?

[gilded grotto]

click on the settings in reshade

should be right there near the top. a drop down box

[simple jetty]

i'll try to do it somehow not sure how i'll be able to click it lol we will see

[gilded grotto]

if not we can try doing it through the .ini

[simple jetty]

ok somehow i manage to get to the settings and manage to get the drop down arrow on the input processing
gave me 3 options
1.pass on all input
2.block input when cursor is on overlay
3.block all input when overlay is visible (guessing go with this one?)

[gilded grotto]

yes 3

If I recall correctly that is the default option with ReShade and last time I tried ReShade with NMS that was the only setting to where it didn't cause that issue you was having.

[simple jetty]

dam nothing change...i restarted it also

[gilded grotto]

I would try your luck with each setting then

[rugged cloud]

your not running autohotkey as well right?

[simple jetty]

ok, dam sorta feels like they don't want me to play the reshade i been trying to figure out how to use the reshade since 2017 lol worked fine in 2016 but in 2017 it won't launch anymore then figured out that i had to disable my intergrated graphics for it to run yesterday.

hmm not sure let me check

[rugged cloud]

reshade works fine on my end with default settings

[gilded grotto]

I had some wonky experience like his image showed but reverting it back to blocking the input while the overlay was up fixed it for me

[rugged cloud]

input issues was why I stopped using autohotkey 😛

[gilded grotto]

try reloading reshade @simple jetty

in game

[simple jetty]

ok no autohotkey

[gilded grotto]

if you want to bind it to a key, open up ReShade.ini and find KeyReload=

Make it
KeyReload=82,1,1,0
This is CTRL+SHIFT+R

[simple jetty]

ok i'll try that thanks

[gilded grotto]

this might allow things to work. worth a shot

[rugged cloud]

did you also try deleting all the reshade stuff and reinstalling

[simple jetty]

yeah

[gilded grotto]

hmmm by chance do you run an AMD or nvidia GPU?

[simple jetty]

nvidia

[gilded grotto]

aight nvm then

[rugged cloud]

🤔 thats not the problem then

[gilded grotto]

reloading reshade fixes issues with AMD users

[rugged cloud]

stupid question.....have you updated windows or restarted at all?

windows is dumb some times

[simple jetty]

well windows updated yesterday

and yes i did restart

[rugged cloud]

then thats not it

[simple jetty]

the reload thing didn't work dam

should i try a different version reshade i'm using the latest one atm

3.4.1.

[gilded grotto]

ok

open the ReShade.ini

find InputProcessing=2

[rugged cloud]

yeah I dont have the latest one either.....cause if it works why update 😛

[gilded grotto]

change this to 1, reload reshade, see if it fixes, if not then try 0

make sure to save the reshade.ini text file before each reload

[simple jetty]

which version do you have cosmo? and i'll try that 🙏

[real barn]

are there any mods for the vehicles ?

or am i the only one who wants to turn them into cars

[rugged cloud]

redmas has some mods for them

search on Nexus

[fast shale]

Anyone reporting any mods not working with the 1.57 update so far?

[simple jetty]

@gilded grotto nope didn't work i'm going try using an another version of reshade if not then i'll just go maybe another 2 years trying to get the reshade to work -.- lol

[gilded grotto]

ahh

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/8ar1jhh1809cl/ReShade_Repository

my repository

[rugged cloud]

I PMed him mine

but if that one dont work its not the version

[gilded grotto]

yeah its a weird issue

[rugged cloud]

I mean it could be an update broke something but we shall see

[gilded grotto]

yeee I would like to try 1.0 reshade on NMS heh

I did have that issue he was having a couple weeks back tho

even before reshade 3.4.1

[simple jetty]

nope still same thing with your version cosmo dam and this time i have to go through the tutorial lol

back in 2016 i would get this problem but i would just hit windows key and click the window of the reshade but that doesn't work now :/

[gilded grotto]

what are you trying to achieve with reshade?

[rugged cloud]

try doing this
close discord and turn off steam overlay

[simple jetty]

just want to mess around with the fx

[rugged cloud]

then restart the game

[simple jetty]

see what i like

ok i'll try that

[gilded grotto]

ReShade 2.0.3 has an external GUI

But you would be limited to the amount of shaders and updated shaders I'd say

[simple jetty]

oh ok i'll try that one i don't mind a few as long as i can use it but if it doesn't work i'll just play without it for now eventually i'll find a solution just like i found out why i coudn't launch NMS anymore with reshade installed but took 2 years to find that out lo

thank you both for the help though i appreciate it i'll see how 2.0.3 turns out

[gilded grotto]

You're welcome. 2.0.3 is a tad wonky and I cannot say for sure if it'll work with NMS 😛

[simple jetty]

yeah i ran the exe i don't even know what to do lol

[gilded grotto]

under profiles you need to go select NMS.exe and choose OpenGL

and then hit confirm and save confirm. I always click it twice in reshade 2.0.3

click over on presets and click the little + again and add a profile name or whatever you want to make it

make sure you highlight the profile you just made and then click on shaders

left click to checkmark the shaders you want enable, right click to highlight them and then click on shader settings

@simple jetty

[simple jetty]

oh alright thanks for the help i'll try that

[dreamy tulip]

@slender thistle What mod is that?

Hi, by the way.

I'm curious, because I've worked on nearly every aspect of the game (being here since the beginning), and I wouldn't be surprised if (in one or even a few of the 46-50,000 files that I have) that we've crossed paths in regard to similarities of preference. It tends to happen at times. However, my mod is not a 'mod pack' - it is a singular mod on a large scale (of my work); with a few contributed components, and a few other things - full documentation provided.

In the same way, I've noticed a lot of other (mods sharing similarities) etc... (Like for eg. A. mod does lowflight. B. Mod does lowflight and this here. C. Mod does lowflight, that thing there and something else and maybe 5-6 other things) - within HelloGames files... etc...

🤷

Anyway, to anyone here... I'm offering to do some mod requests (given that they are reasonable and not too time consuming). Feel free to let me know.

[hexed wing]

eliminate rings on planets with moons? 😃

[dreamy tulip]

Unfortunately, rings are currently a global thing (across all planet types) :P
But I can remove then totally; or reduce their probability

[hexed wing]

I'd personally be OK with removed totally.

[dreamy tulip]

Sec

Feel free to see if that removes them

It was a small change

[hexed wing]

I will give it a go. Thanks 😃

[fast shale]

Hey has anyone had issues where they don't have the option to transfer items to another person in their party? I have options to transfer to everything else but not to another person

[hexed wing]

I saw monkeyman192 mentioned that it was just a flag, and I just, seconds before you posted that, asked him where the change was. Timing is everything. 😃

[dreamy tulip]

Yeah, Monkeyman is right about that, it's a float value that is handled globally

@fast shale Is it possible that you are far away from that player?

I think there is a min/max range

[fast shale]

No I've pretty much been right next to them, its like the transfer to another person option is just not on the menu. I can transfer to all my vehicles and storage containers

ANd I've been able to transfer to others before

[dreamy tulip]

That's strange, I haven't had much time to play yet... but, if I find out that it can be fixed with filebased modifications, I'll pass something to ya

[fast shale]

Fantastic, thanks!

It was just last night, and a couple times before, maybt it'll be fixed with this recent update

[dreamy tulip]

I wonder if it might be a server related issue, but from the bit that I've played... it's been a smooth experience

Pre-NEXT, there were some issues on ocassion

[fast shale]

I'll try again tonight, and I'll remove any mods too and see if that helps

[dreamy tulip]

But yeah, maybe the update might've fixed it

Yeah, that's a good idea

Could also be that

Ugh, remaking a modernized E3 2015 HUD for NEXT is going to be tedious: https://imgur.com/kx7BDlr

I actually, really like the new HUD. The HUD that we currently have is probably the closest to that style that we've gotten officially

But I've gotten a few requests to update it

Also, @cyan oracle Maybe some day :P
https://imgur.com/tUv1nPa

How are your ship adjustments coming along?

[simple jetty]

i sometimes wish things like that creature would come up to you and swallow you whole the first time you encounter it lol and next time you will be careful when you see creepy creatures. I need more danger in NMS

[heavy merlin]

I don't know how that thing would manage to swallow anything 😅

[simple jetty]

haha true that thing would grind you 😂

[dreamy tulip]

I can see something like this doing that: https://imgur.com/aWmmTlp

https://imgur.com/fSxgSre

[simple jetty]

dam wtf that is huge but yeah lol

[dreamy tulip]

Giant Spider: https://imgur.com/gkKzSXE

[simple jetty]

dam that would be scary to see and it would be nice if it shot you web then pulled you and ate you

lol

[dreamy tulip]

It honestly looks terrifying in-game lol

And Godzilla: https://i.imgur.com/SUYPWI8.png

[simple jetty]

lool

now we need king kong

[dreamy tulip]

Lol, would be awesome

[simple jetty]

yeah i sometimes wish the some of the animals were like monster hunter style lol

just have some very dangerous animals but i think eventually there will be more dangerous creatures. The xenomorph is an example we need more of those with different attack styles.

[quartz cargo]

godzilla with broken fingers

😃

[hexed wing]

@dreamy tulip - not sure this is what you were going for :)
https://imgur.com/a/9SyXC5h

Now, to be completely fair, I haven't loaded the game since it was updated... so the update and your mod to remove rings were being tested simultaneously... I don't know which is causing these effects. One thing that is better is that when on-planet, the effect has a limited width... it seemed to go on forever before.

[lethal solstice]

Hello players of No Man's Sky, I am DawnShadow and today I am bringing on the table a fix for the glass material that tends to reflect awkwardly... The current bug is :

And with this mod DS96_Glassbug_fix it shouldn't happen anymore. Here it is ! ⏬

[quartz cargo]

could you show a pic of the after?\

[lethal solstice]

ye

[hexed wing]

OK, just tried it without the ring mod, and it's the same as ever. So adding in the mod you provided did make it entirely playable (the ring effect is just 100u wide or something), but it didn't completely eliminate the rings.

and they look strange from space

https://imgur.com/tFyiO51

[lethal solstice]

Bug

[dreamy tulip]

@hexed wing Thanks for the heads up 😛

Yeah, will look into it more in a bit

[hexed wing]

Cool. I'm still going to use it, because it makes on-planet better... and I'm not honestly all that jazzed about how planets look from space anyway. 😃

But I look forward to what other wizardry you can cook up

I cleared out the SHADERCACHE folder - is there anything else I should clear out to make sure?

[dreamy tulip]

I've never really ever had a need to delete the shader cache

If you want, let's see if that works 😛

[hexed wing]

Giving it a go now.

I've never had to before, either, but I'd seen some mods recommend it when they're fiddling with visuals.

Brilliant. zero ringage. 😃

[dreamy tulip]

Nice, glad it worked

[hexed wing]

Me too - thanks for the mod-on-request. 😃

[dreamy tulip]

No problem! Glad to share

[rotund yoke]

is there a mod that decreases the time the teleporter takes

[rotund yoke]

k

runnning on SSD.

over 80GB free space.

for trade routes, i setupped a base below trade outposts.

i teleport to and fro

buy sell

[clever adder]

mak sure you dont try to defrag it

[rotund yoke]

ehh. defrag, dont u mean trim

defrag ssd => ssd dead

so why u said defrag ssd

every1 does mistakes,
only few correct them.

hmm. is multi-player fixed?

[dreamy tulip]

@clever adder Hey, didn't know that you were still around lol

[clever adder]

yesyes it me

[dreamy tulip]

Enjoying NEXT?

[clever adder]

yees

[dreamy tulip]

Likewise, @clever adder

[lime shoal]

@dreamy tulip Hey Ray, are you still doing a mod on request? 😄

[crimson kindle]

Are the refinery recipes in one of these mbin files?

[lime shoal]

I wanted a mod that increased the range that the grass/tress appears, because now it's only around you

Is it possible to do?

Hm, no, like from really far away lol

hm, it would lag that much?

even if the pc is good?

Sent you a screen shot

[dreamy tulip]

@lime shoal Hi, just seeing your tag

Seamless generation is a component of my fan project, that I am eager to release as soon as it's ready

I recorded a video of it in action, pre-NEXT (in this video) - where you can see nothing generate. It's as if it was always there, and always will be there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mQBh61_8uE&feature=youtu.be

I will balance everything out; (even with it) - working in coherence with various other components, it actually performed better than the vanilla game

It's the methods of implementation, alongside various non-biome related things at play

[crimson kindle]

Anyone know where all the refiner recipes are located?

[dreamy tulip]

This is my current page (for the upcoming version) - https://justpaste.it/5c7xc

[lime shoal]

I've seen all your videos, lol

I thought it would be easier to do it so that's why i asked

I'm looking forward to your mod

[ashen brook]

@dreamy tulip You're such a tease with that overhaul. Wavin' it around in my face.

Anyone can recommend a good mod for removing space dust? Clean space and dark space still leave puffs of smoke everywhere

[hearty wasp]

I'm trying to get some people to help me update my 500~ scenes again for eucliea, dm me if you want eucliea to happen faster

[open vortex]

You guys think Mod support could ever be added to console?

[magic lava]

They have it for other games now, so yeah. Will it is another question- I kinda doubt it personally

[glass ferry]

pc master race

[hearty wasp]

!PIN 480393872405692426

[hardy aurora]

@hearty wasp OK.

[hearty wasp]

ahh, power well abused

[vagrant iron]

Eulicea 🙌

[hearty wasp]

tfw people who contacted to help you goes off the grid for 2 weeks straight after

[vagrant iron]

i'd help... except i am not sure needs to be done

[hearty wasp]

I usually just give the bulk of the "batch" scenes I made for people to update for me, decals, flags, trees, rocks, etc cos they're straightforward

... other than these, which are more custom and complicated

also planters

[hallow pumice]

I'm currently learning how to mod. Just been adjusting values though, I'd like to help but not sure how proficient I'd be at it.

[hearty wasp]

most of the stuff is just comparing and copy-pasting

usually recommend KDiff for the batch stuff cos that makes stuff easier

[hallow pumice]

I've actually been using KDiff for comparing value changes from the original values. If it's mainly just copy pasting and comparing I'm sure I can help out with that.

[hearty wasp]

hmu in dm if you're up to it

[quartz cargo]

im checking out your Eucli-ea mod atm

lol payday 😛

it's cool

[hearty wasp]

yeah, the drill not only broke itself

it broke people's games

only a drill that breaks games can be worthy of a PAYDAY drill

[hallow pumice]

GUYS THE THERMAL DRILL GO GET IT

[quartz cargo]

😛

i thought it was hilarious seeing the screenshot of the drill, drilling a tiny box (safe)

and the video was entertaining

id actually love to see Hg make more facilities that can be found, that are guarded, and you have to break in with either explosives or a drill.. lol (or some other interesting way, that isnt just shooting it)

and when inside you can collect rare resources inside, data etc, but it takes time and you might have to hold out 😛

but that might not rly fit the style of NMS

[hearty wasp]

I mean having an alternate way to get into more heavily guarded places for more reward can be interesting

[quartz cargo]

i definitely want to see NPC's able to move.. and add pirate NPC's that can fight back

not just sentinels

[hearty wasp]

tbh I'm little bit glad the drill is fucking broken cos the innard of the thing is too damn complicated

takes a load off my shoulders to know I have all the excuses not to update it, no matter how revolutionary it may be lol

[quartz cargo]

but... 😦 i want the drill

😄 im kidding, its fine

sometimes its not worth trying to fix stuff

[hearty wasp]

I mean I want it too

but HG needs to fix their saving systems first

[rugged cloud]

saving works fine

do you mean server saving?

[hearty wasp]

nah, from what I've heard I've deducted that the reason the drill makes the games CTDs is because of the AR save system not being able to save custom mission data properly

[rugged cloud]

mmmm...ok thats interesting

[pastel tendon]

Anyone here familiar with the tessellation fix mod? I want to know what it does exactly and the site descriptions aren't very accurate

[dreamy tulip]

The tesselation mod intends to fix the muddy/blurry terrain tesselation that occurs when you enable that feature via the TkGraphicSettings file in your No Man's Sky > Binaries > Settings directory. It increases the draw distance of the effect.

[lusty shadow]

hello there, is there any mod to enable cutting off ship engines?

you know, conserving momentum while being able to turn around freely in space

[neon rover]

hey i havee a general mod question

if i have mods can i play online

[quartz cargo]

yes

[neon rover]

REALLY oko

[opal scaffold]

Is there a mod that makes caves dark again?

[neon rover]

y tho its hard to see

[quartz cargo]

id love that

i use darker nights, and that isnt dark enough

caves, and oceans getting darker would be awesome

though oceans, only if you go deep.

[opal scaffold]

Hard to see. That's why a flashlight exists

At the moment the flashlight is pretty much useless

[hearty wasp]

hey fellow scrubs! Some fellow modders and I have been working hard on a in-game faction for a while, and now that we actually started aggregating together, we can finally reveal this to you guys.
We still need a lot of help charting systems and planets, so hit us up if you wanna contribute by simply playing the game!
https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Artifices_Caeli

!pin 480696503770284033

[hardy aurora]

@hearty wasp OK.

[tribal mason]

is there a newer mod like this one compatible with NEXT?
https://nomansskymods.com/mods/portal-translator/

[hearty wasp]

isn't that just a texture replacer

should just work

[tribal mason]

oh yeah it does

[hearty wasp]

it just works

[frozen spire]

I love how the Artifices Caeli description is just a large star wars meme

[hearty wasp]

fuck someone finally noticed it

[frozen spire]

what kinda help do you exactly need with?

also did you name the home system or was it random?

[hearty wasp]

oh the home system is the proc gen name

cos discovery ain't working

[frozen spire]

oh

cuz Aiqing means love in chinese lmao

[hearty wasp]

huh, didn't notice that myself

[frozen spire]

sounds like this project is fated

[hearty wasp]

lolz

also

as for what we need help with, it's mostly just charting the nearby systems of the current main system or the old "candidate systems" that we have

[frozen spire]

so all I need to do is find my way to the system and look around

[hearty wasp]

writing down the names and the relevant info, take a screenshot or two for each planet, take one for the system, and then put them up onto the wiki

[frozen spire]

welp time to collect glyphs

[hearty wasp]

or you can just join us with mp lol

[frozen spire]

oh righ

[hearty wasp]

check the pins for the link to our discord, we have a channel there for the civ itself

[frozen spire]

oh shiz Im having abit of trouble finding the link

scrub that found ti

[hallow pumice]

what save you on @frozen spire ? I might be able to give you a ride

[frozen spire]

?

Im sorry Im new do this so all I got is 1 save

[hearty wasp]

which mode

[frozen spire]

normal

[hearty wasp]

also here link https://discord.gg/9QBKg6Z

[glad fjord]

No mod to sell ships? Damn, thought there would be one with the amount of reddit post asking for this option.. Is there something that stops modders to do so or it's just not done yet

[hallow pumice]

@glad fjord What you mean sell ships? Like sell a ship with out having to trading it in?

[glad fjord]

ya

just raw

so i can have places in my freighter

and earn units by doing so

[hallow pumice]

You can use the save editor to delete a ship

[glad fjord]

that wouldnt give me my units :/

[hearty wasp]

yes

edit your save

[thin viper]

First mod from project atlas generator is out interlopers. New procedurally generated planetary colors mod for NEXT. https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/788/ . If you interlopers run into any bugs while testing it let me know

[hallow pumice]

Looking awesome @thin viper

[dreamy tulip]

Lookin good 😛

[pastel tendon]

anyone here familiar with the TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS.MXML file?

I'm trying to understand why the texturepagesizekb is only at 64

[glad fjord]

Do I need anything before putting files in my game? (i just put a TEXTURE folder in my PCBANKS and wonder if i need anything else, or the game will just recognize it)

[fiery kestrel]

the file named DISABLEMODS.TXT must not be present, remove it or rename it

[glad fjord]

deleted

anything else?

there's no core mod like SKSE for Skyrim?

[fiery kestrel]

that's it

[glad fjord]

alright, good

[fiery kestrel]

texture folder?

[glad fjord]

ya, was for a crosshair

[hearty wasp]

yeah sure just run unpacked and it'll work

[glad fjord]

always unpack, new to NMS but veteran in Skyrim modding eheh (hope it wont be as hard as Skyrim in the future xd)

[fiery kestrel]

yeah haha for Skyrim modding you need 5 utilities before even considering modding

[glad fjord]

e x a c t l y

[hearty wasp]

but jokes aside, you don't need to fuckin unpack

just make a MODs folder and pack the mod into a pak and put the pak into the folder

[glad fjord]

Do you need a Mod folder in your PCBANKS or just drop .pak files into it? seems like nothing's workin even with the DISABLEMOD.txt file removed

[heavy merlin]

Yes, "Mods", with the file in

As the disablemods file describes

[glad fjord]

like this

i didnt read disablemods

:/

gonna check it

[heavy merlin]

Yes

[quartz cargo]

dumb question that i never bothered to figure out

when making a mods folder, is it case sensitive, or does it matter?

[glad fjord]

i just made it in full caps

since it's written in full caps in the disablemod TXT file

[quartz cargo]

yeah

just never bothered to try lower case

[fiery kestrel]

lol why would ya

[quartz cargo]

for knowledge 😛

[fiery kestrel]

knowledge is power

[quartz cargo]

i read that, pretending terry crews was saying it

[fiery kestrel]

I would like to know how to mod nms

[hearty wasp]

there's a modding wiki

read it up

[fiery kestrel]

yeap I'll do that

[quartz cargo]

id recommend joining the NMS modding discord, easy to obtain the tools there, and ask for any help you may need

[fiery kestrel]

there's a discord? cool

oh yeah saw it in the wiki's home

[glad fjord]

Cant launch my game anymore 😮

deleted everything and placed the disablemods.txt back but the game doesnt launch

[hearty wasp]

verify game integrity

[glad fjord]

how

[hearty wasp]

probably delete some extra

[glad fjord]

wdym

:c

[hearty wasp]

sorry, deleted*

[glad fjord]

my pcbanks folder is like it used to, but i press play on steam, start the game but instantly close

:/

oh got it

nvm

moved a wrong file

xd

[thin viper]

So apparently my mod makes all npcs purple hehe

What is weird is setting plastic to some color makes it affect terrain and npcs

Which is so weird

[lime mesa]

npcs are plastic, confirmed

[fiery kestrel]

send a ss

[lime mesa]

your mod made my ship toxic green

[hearty wasp]

you saying like that's not dope

[lime mesa]

could it be possible to make even more toned down version? Like 5-10%. My planet was a rave party

it got rid of other colors, just a green ship-sized blob

[thin viper]

Yeah the mod mostly out there so that i can get all them bugs

I totally didnt see the whole NPC coloring stuff when testing

Which was kind of why i put the mod out there

So that people can report them bugs

And i can fix them before i release the gen

I mean purple vykeens are best considering i hate vykeens

[glad fjord]

hehe that looks cool but

:thonk:

[thin viper]

Huh? What am i seeing?

[lime mesa]

best vykens are vykens with lipstick

[glad fjord]

a space station

that's a space station

[lime mesa]

am i pretty, interloper?

[thin viper]

Wait whats wrong in that pic?

[glad fjord]

mmh, id say, everything

xD

[thin viper]

Wait is it with the mod?

Wtf ..like i didnt have any such issue when testing lmao

[glad fjord]

ye i have your new mod

but that might come from other ones

i'll tell you if it's your thingy

[thin viper]

Yeah coz the space station inside colors are not at all in the files used in the mod

And the interior is static colored

[glad fjord]

mmhh that was deep space

but now

[thin viper]

Hmmm

Nice then

Thas what i thought

[glad fjord]

I dont think THIS is supposed to happen

[thin viper]

What is wrong in that?

[glad fjord]

it's a hot planet

wait

no

toxic, but that looks like a ice one

gonna check if it's your thingy

[thin viper]

Yeah its the mod

Its those damn npcs

If i set terrain colors..the npcs get colored too

[glad fjord]

it's so awkward to see man

same place

[thin viper]

If i turn off npcs coloring..terrain becomes white

[glad fjord]

i'm gonna check if there are compatibilty problems with deep space

caus i had a black screen, might help you

[thin viper]

Hmm sure

[glad fjord]

Nop

deep space alone gives a black screen

a black screen playable

but a black screen

so nothing from your mod but only DeepSpace

[hearty wasp]

think this will be more handy now that it's pickupable

[quartz cargo]

that a part of your mod?

[hearty wasp]

ye

[quartz cargo]

that'd be useful.

[hearty wasp]

yeah I know

that's why I made it

[quartz cargo]

it adds an item that lets you do it, like yours. so i deleted the post.

[hearty wasp]

the only other one I know of is quantus's old one

[quartz cargo]

@hearty wasp curious, does it let you transfer items back to the ship, from the freighter?

[hearty wasp]

which is fuckin creepy cos someone's using his name for the update lmao

[quartz cargo]

yeah quantus is the 1 i was talking about

its updated for next

[hearty wasp]

yeah he quit back in PF iirc

[quartz cargo]

weird someone is using his name

[hearty wasp]

it's old history, don't think too much into it

but the interaction is literally the same as talking to the freighter captain

[heavy merlin]

I wondered what that was for. You can transfer stuff from your ship to the freighter in your inventory, so why talk to a guy to do it?

[hearty wasp]

cos you can't transfer shit from your freighter to your ship on a planet?

[heavy merlin]

I meant the original interaction, with the captain.

[hearty wasp]

oh, it was done back when freighters are first introduced

you could only do it with the captain back then

[heavy merlin]

Oh, wow, yuck.

Now they just need to add a similar page to the inventory for the storage...

[quartz cargo]

yeah, they need an upgrade module that allows you to send it to your inventory from anywhere within the same system

also, they need better storage. like crafted storage, i find it weird that you can just send things to and from your storage container from the menu and not physically go to it

[glad fjord]

they need to add so much things

xd

[quartz cargo]

id personally love some storage to work as it does now, but have it ahrder to craft, but then a lesser form of storage that you actually have to run up to to get the mateirals

which tbh, on planet id prob hate

but on freighter id like it

[hearty wasp]

you reminded me that I need to make my safes storage containers

[quartz cargo]

omg, shaideks generation and big things 4 is awesome

though...

some things need collision changed with it.

and the camera being pushed forward (collision) is annoying as well.

[dreamy tulip]

Shaidak is awesome and genuinely a nice guy

He's a good friend of mine, and yeah, his mod is cool 😎

[warm thistle]

What's this Project Atlas I've been seeing talk of? I cant seem to find much about it, sounds pretty cool though

[rotund yoke]

just 1 question.
How many things will this Mod break in the game?

[rotund yoke]

will multiplayer be ok, cause that matters more than others

[hexed wing]

Since someone mentioned the storage containers on the freighter... do they leave gaping holes into space for everyone, or is my freighter just drafty? 😃

[hearty wasp]

they do leave a gaping hole, HG couldn't be arsed to fix it

I've seen people connecting it to a curved corridor and it looks better, tho

[quartz cargo]

theres a texture bug in my freighter

i assume everyone has it

when you head back to the open room you start with, the corridor's floors seems textureless.

[cerulean sluice]

does anyone here have a problem with the DISABLEMODS.TXT reappearing in pcbanks?

[rotund yoke]

if u verify integrity of files .

it will come back

[cerulean sluice]

im pretty sure i didnt do that

[lost dirge]

hey all

hey @lethal solstice how are ya

Ive been coming across a refrence to a mod pack possibly called Next Big Adventure, know anything about it?

sorry for the noob q's

[hearty wasp]

Yeah, don't download mod packs

Unless it's rayrod cos he actually ask for permission for the few people he get from abd does everything else himself

[vagrant iron]

Guys.. we are free

RayRod has left the server

[hearty wasp]

Lmao

[vagrant iron]

Not when they are "handcrafted"

[hearty wasp]

Yeah, cos I've literally seen how the community rolled for next to 2 goddamm years

I know who's good

And who fuckin thieves

If the mod is dead 2 weeks after you made it it'd be really sad

Nah, I like bein an asshole

Also I'm just spewing facts, at best

Also the thief I was saying is someone who's not in this server, don't worry

[charred isle]

If you guys can't be civil then don't speak in here

[hearty wasp]

Well I wasn't crackin any inappropriate jokes

[charred isle]

You're not having a constructive conversation

So stop.

[hearty wasp]

Sure, but saying I like someone's work wasn't provokin anyone, just confirming

[charred isle]

That's clearly not all you said

[hearty wasp]

Yeah well, sometimes cold facts does sound hurtful from an asshole

[charred isle]

I'm not seeing any facts, just someone being upset for no reason on the internet.

In any case, take it to DMs if you have issues with someone. It's not what this server is for.

[hearty wasp]

Ah well, couldn't hate somethin I haven't seen lol better run off and do more ArC shit before I get yell at again

[frosty vine]

@lost dirge thats redmas mod I think

[lost dirge]

okay thanks

[heavy merlin]

Decorate your base with UI elements?

[lusty shadow]

I'd like to add decals not just to that, but also to vehicles in general

also it would be nice if your ship had marks from previous battles in the same play

[heavy merlin]

Seems like a good idea, as presumably they're already "available" and won't need graphics in the mod or anything. I'm sure some creative people (not me...) could find some good uses for a lot of those.

[rigid mesa]

Do you play Portal (Believe me dis is not off topic)

Ah.. It's just I always wanted to make a crossover mod between the 2

I'm writing a story but idk

[lime mesa]

anyway to mod the intro movies off?

[lilac bloom]

is there anyone here i wanted to ask about a mod

?_?

[obsidian tree]

just ask, if people know they will reply

[hearty wasp]

lmao you'd have a better chance trying to find people in the modding discord

hey no worries just don't get triggered there no one's there to save ya

switch that to MSSP's face and you got a deal

ahhh, sweet innocent boi, MSSP is a legend that is past down the generations

generations being updates and legend being... a really great person, I guess

[hearty wasp]

well, not with that attitude!

I mean, they've been trying to explain why your offer might not succeed and offer alternatives

yeah I can see that, no one takes criticism or 9/11 jokes well first try, don't worry

but try to see their role and reasoning in time

that's an important skill for teamwork, afterall

oh, don't worry, everything's a joke for me, equally

I just talked myself into thinking people shittalking me makes me feel strong cos they feel me threatening

it's great once you lose most ability to give a shit lol

[rotund yoke]

Expressing ones Feelings in words is always a hard thing to do.

[hearty wasp]

That's why we should talk like those giant ass bois in Mass Effect games

Jokingly: haha yes

[lime mesa]

Implying that people can see your emotions through text based chat. Look, I get that communication is complex for you. But, buddy. Can you maybe get why folks might mistake your attitudes for toxicity?

[hearty wasp]

Oh, they don't mistake my attitude

You can't mistake what's true

Talking like an asshole is just my way of life now, much more fun than having to act nice all the time

[lime mesa]

So, are you capable of genuine human emotions or are you strictly anti social by default now? Curious.

[hearty wasp]

I can use my emotions when I need em, but there's not much need for that on the internet

[lime mesa]

I make it a policy to be nice to folks who are nice to me. Otherwise, I don't really pay them much mind.

[hearty wasp]

Oh I can be nice when having a nice civil or serious discussion

I just also like to crack hitler jokes where I seem appropriate e.g. when I'm not workin on somethin with people

Talking like an asshole just makes me not need to care about stuff like etiquette

[lime mesa]

Just make sure to read the room before you talk. Lol.

Common sense.

[hearty wasp]

Nah just jump in and shout "HEY WHATSUP YOUTUBE ALI A HERE WITH ANOTHER SICK FORTNITE VIDEO REMEMBER TO SMAHS THAT MOTHERFUCKIN LIKE BUTTON"

Most people I dwell with are open minded/memey enough to accept that most of the time

[oblique moon]

Can I get 'PC' role plz

[quiet island]

@oblique moon #roles has the info for that

[oblique moon]

to easy; thanks :]

[hearty wasp]

No don't have parental control functions here, sorry

But at least you can say heck and darn all you want

[crystal haven]

Anyone aware of a way to make the music play more frequently -- rather, constantly -- instead of sparingly?

[hearty wasp]

don't think I've seen or heard anythin about it

cos it's not about the choice of tracks but when the game plays em, and that kinda thing would probably be hardcoded

[crystal haven]

That's what I thought

Dang, guess it's just spotify in the background for now 😃

[static basin]

I'm using Rayrod's flight overhaul is there a reason when i take off from the ground it acts as if it damages the ship?

its only for a split second just curious if there is a fix or maybe its just me experiencing the bug

[rotund yoke]

is Factory automation Possible

[quartz cargo]

@static basin because he has the flight take off time rly low, so instead of lifting up, your flying at ground level, which if the terrain isnt perfectly flat, its colliding with the ground technically

shouldnt rly be a problem.

i changed the take off time because of that though

[static basin]

oh I see thats ok then just checking it wasn't something conflicting

thank you 😃

[coral forge]

Avali mod for NMS when

👀

[shut ginkgo]

o.O

[gleaming dew]

Does anyone use No Man's Connect?

[cyan oracle]

For those that want a garage..

[fast shale]

@gleaming dew I've toyed around with it a little, but tbh haven't really figured out how it works aside from teleporting myself to random spots listed there.

[hearty wasp]

I'm guessing setting building category to decoration @cyan oracle ?

At least I'm hoping it's that simple lol

[cyan oracle]

even simpler and more compatible with other mods @hearty wasp just removed the cylinder collision nodes from the garage scene files

[hearty wasp]

Lmfao

[cyan oracle]

given that vanilla roamer could plant, I compared and the nomad and roamer had 5 collisions (1 mesh, 1 box and 3 cylinders).. the roamer only had 2 (1 mesh and 1 box)..

[hearty wasp]

Why is there 3 cylinders tho

[cyan oracle]

also changed the transY values on the summon node (and it's children) in the roamer's scene.. so it doesn't spawn 1½ stories up

I have no idea.. lmao, doesn't make sense.. would imagine they all have the same shape and size, just different scale.. so the mesh and box should be it..

and with the mesh and box, they're still good enough..

makes for making a garage really easy.. or if you want to put it in a room like a showcase item, you can always hop in to make it the active exocraft, then go outside and summon it..

[obsidian tree]

@cyan oracle have you looked into the mesh collisions much? There doesn't actually seem to be any of the mesh data in the geometry files... :S

[hearty wasp]

wait what then where tf does the scene grab it from

[obsidian tree]

good fucking question

[cyan oracle]

@obsidian tree tbh, I haven't done much looking at anything.. I seent the new min max and hash values and was like: "Oh great, they threw out more insane wizardry at us so they don't get sued for Star Wars content."

but if I had to guess, I'd say the collision mesh is essentially (if not exactly) the same vertpath (for lack of better words/terms) as the actual mesh, it just lacks a material file..

basically duping the original mesh as an accurate collision model, minus all the convex hull stuff?

so I am now looking at it for the first time.. first thing I see that stands out is collision mesh uses batchstart and count like models did back in Atlas.. but the non-collision mesh nodes have "BATCHSTARTPHYSI" (which seems to be what we used to call "BATCHSTART"?) and "BATCHSTARTGRAPH" (which seems to always be set to 0)

but the file I'm looking at (MODELS\PLANETS\BIOMES\COMMON\BUILDINGS\PARTS\BUILDABLEPARTS\TECH\VEHICLEGARAGECUSTOMISER.SCENE.MBIN) does appear to have a collision referencing a BATCHCOUNT of 360 with a BATCHSTART of 0.. the mesh nodes themselves start at "BATCHSTARTPHYSI" of 360.. So I think the collision is still the first in the geometry

[obsidian tree]

Well tell me if you can find it, because I have had a pretty good look and canmot find the actual collision mesh data in the geometry file. The indexes are there but point to indexes that are higher than exist in the file

[lime mesa]

im trying to add ,"^FRIGATE_FUEL_2" to the knownproducts array in my save file but nothing happens. i think i have to update some time value, but not really sure what im looking for ><

[rotund yoke]

theres always 2 save files.

[lime mesa]

i have to update both?

[rotund yoke]

if slot 1. there will be save.hg, save2.hg

so u have to update both

for the changes to register

[lime mesa]

ohh ill try this

thanks so much! ill let you know how it goes

[rotund yoke]

k. np

[lime mesa]

sweet it worked

thanks for the help!

does modding help you become a better programmer?

[rotund yoke]

ehh

[lime mesa]

im pretty novice ><

[rotund yoke]

programmer is one who can code to make the computer do a certain work

companies dont pay for programming skills

they pay to the programmers who can solve Hard mathematical problems (in Computer science/IT) using programming

[lime mesa]

thats true modding is kinda too niche?

just give me your money 😢 lolol

[thin viper]

There is no programming in nms modding

[vagrant iron]

Modding this game, in general, doesn't require any programming knowledge and doesn't really help develop that skill

[lime mesa]

oh really

[vagrant iron]

You just modify XML files

[thin viper]

Nms modding is just open files in notepad and modify values

[vagrant iron]

All the game logic is controlled via thos efiles

[thin viper]

Yeah what architect said

[vagrant iron]

handcrafted edits to XML files, if you will

[thin viper]

Lol

[lime mesa]

ok so i dont even know if im asking this right but

where is the game logic?

[thin viper]

Thats the thing...we cant control any logic at all

[lime mesa]

ahh ok thought as much just wasnt sure

[vagrant iron]

The files control the variables that the game engine then uses to generate stuff

[steady crow]

How safe is NMS cheat engine?

[vagrant iron]

If you downloaded it from legit place, should be fine. just make a backup of your save in case things go bad

[steady crow]

nomanskymods.com ?

[vagrant iron]

yep

[lime mesa]

@vagrant iron right! i get that part, so the game engine is basically impossible to change

[vagrant iron]

yeah... i mean... thats really Hello Game's IP

They won't expose that

[lime mesa]

would something like an 'FPS type respawn' be possible to make?

maybe with the script extender?

[thin viper]

There hasnt been a working script extender in like forever after 1.1 got released

[gilded grotto]

@rotund yoke so if that mod is removed what would happen is more or less what I was wondering.

Will those extremely large stacks disappear or try to go back to default size or what

[rotund yoke]

the value will set back to the original, 20x less

[gilded grotto]

↑

[rotund yoke]

well, they nerfed a lot

reduced the storage slot from 8 to 5

reduced the freighter from 48 to 34

reduced the exotic from 30/10 to 20/6

[marble escarp]

using no mans sky editor to fix a glitched quest, but it keeps saying error trying to save the file

any suggestions?

game's not running

[oblique moon]

@rotund yoke what if you go to use another computer, do you have to change it on both

[rotund yoke]

what change it on both

[oblique moon]

like im using my backup computer atm, but if I go back to my regular PC would I haave to install the mod there too?\

I keep running out of space and that seems likea good solution instead of buying haulers\

[rotund yoke]

ye.

u need mods on every computer. u have the game installed

[obsidian tree]

@thin viper "There is no programming in NMS modding"
Shit.. I have been doing it wrong this whole time! 😢 😛

[gilded grotto]

I'm one of those exml file editors but if @obsidian tree mbin compiler didn't exist then what we we do? So ya it is more than that

[supple wadi]

we do lots of tedious hex editing without it, lol

[gilded grotto]

Used to do* or do you still use hex editor? o.o

[supple wadi]

I personally have never bothered with the hex editing approach, but I know some of us have during times when MBINCompiler is in the process of being updated

[obsidian tree]

yeah, no-one should really need to do any hex editing now as there is no point when mbincompiler just makes it human-readable 😛

and to do hex editing you need the mbincompiler source structs anyway to know what you are looking at lol

[hearty wasp]

imagine kitbashing scenes with hex, HAH

get eternally anally fucked

[obsidian tree]

Yeah, cos fuck writing list headers by hand. That will get real old real fast

[rotund yoke]

is there any jetpack HOVERing mod?

NMS-Save Editor, is broken now.

it doesnt allow me to svae changes of one save.hg to save2.hg

[hexed wing]

Are you running the newest update (16 hours ago)? 1.5.21

I've never had to specifically save out to save2.hg in order for the changes to work.

[cyan oracle]

@obsidian tree you may have already found this out yourself, but JIC you didn't, it might be worth sharing.. I think part names are some how stored into the geometry now? In previous versions of NMS, we were able to rename a mesh node and as long as we renamed the attachment meshlink to match, it worked.. in NEXT, if you change the name of the mesh, it won't show up.. which means I get to use references to different scenes to complete my growmoar mod now.. can't just rename the parent mesh nodes to STEPx_MESH, but I can use STEPx_MESH locators that have children references to the plant scene for that step..

@rotund yoke I just downloaded the NMS Save Editor last night and it worked for me.. v1.5.21

[obsidian tree]

Yea I know ;)

Thanks :)

[cyan oracle]

lol, I wish I knew before I spent two days rebuilding my plant models only to have them not display in game.. :\

[lime mesa]

are there any furniture mods? theres not much to choose from interior decor wise

[tidal pebble]

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[obsidian tree]

ah damn :/
Yeah, we have got a complete picture of all the geometry stuff now. The only thing is the fact that mesh collisions have no data anywhere despite there being indexes for them in the geometry file.

[cyan oracle]

and scene files have batch and vert values for collision.. but none of the new min/max/hash values..

[obsidian tree]

mesh collisions use the old style of mesh info

they look identical to what they did in 1.38

[supple wadi]

For what it's worth, if ya hop back in the Modding Discord there's a bunch of cool stuff that's being figured out & generally in-dev Krem

[lime mesa]

is there a no misson wait time mod

[obsidian tree]

greg has put up an exe of the model viewer for people to mess around with too 😃

[lime mesa]

hello is there a gek korvax and vekeen translater

[hearty wasp]

hah so I ain't the only one getting my their brains multilated by the new way scenes work

but srsly HG what the fuck why use names to link shit up

[cyan oracle]

yea @hearty wasp I'm trying to rebuild my Antrium model and I can't do it.. I can't even make a duplicate w/o the vanilla entity nodes because the model won't generate, even with the descriptor present in the same folder..

even just removing the leading "_" for a proc part's name will keep it from rendering in??

[obsidian tree]

@cyan oracle you should look at what i wrote in the main modding discord about what you need to be careful of when renaming mesh nodes in the scene

maybe I should write something about it on the wiki...

[cyan oracle]

@obsidian tree I'mma have to find my way back to the main modding discord since that drama last december..

[obsidian tree]

ok, well basically if you modify the name of a mesh node in the scene you need to update the names in the metadata in both the gstream and geometry files

[cyan oracle]

okay.. I found where to edit the geometries.. but where do I find the gstream data?

[obsidian tree]

there is geometry.mbin.pc and geometry.data.mbin.pc

we call the data the gstream one because it uses the TkGeometryStream struct 😛

gstream = geometry.data

and it sounds funny

blame greg

because why not 😛

[cyan oracle]

and I think 1.57.0-pre2 is having a tough time with the geometry.data files.. it can decompile and recompile okay, but trying to decompile an edit throws mbin error

[obsidian tree]

yeah probably

[cyan oracle]

but yea, I edit both already, seems to have no effect.. I get random lines at best

[obsidian tree]

at the moment you will need to hex edit the values to ensure it works correctly

[cyan oracle]

ah 😦 I suck @ hex

[obsidian tree]

geometry files are a pin in the ass

this is easy

you only need to change a script

*string

[cyan oracle]

I can do that..

[obsidian tree]

there is really not much you need to do

[cyan oracle]

as long as I know where/what I'm looking for

[obsidian tree]

oh, well a little bit lol

just remember they need to be processed by a null character (\x00) ie. 00 in hex

so like a string looks like HIKREM\00\FE\FE...

they pad everything after the null value with 0xFE's

up to 0x80 I think

you'll see what I mean

[cyan oracle]

ok.. so I make the edits to the geometry.data file, recompile then hexedit? or is mbincompiler not even used for gstreams yet?

[obsidian tree]

if you are jst editing the hex files you don't need mbincompiler

but mbincompiler will decompile the file fine

but it isn't really for human consumption

[cyan oracle]

oh, I think I see what you mean..

[obsidian tree]

😉

we did that on purpose for libmbin

it allows other porgrams to use the data better

[cyan oracle]

I want to look for the part name, but it'll be somewhat broken with hexcodes and I have to find the "_" and 00 it out?

[obsidian tree]

you will want to shift it...
so:
_TESTSTRING\x00\FE\FE...
becomes
TESTSTRING\x00\FE\FE\FE...

[cyan oracle]

oh, cool, even easier.. wasn't sure if it would throw off an end of file check or something

[obsidian tree]

the game reads the string by going character by character until it hits the \x00 character then shops reading and jumps to the next place to read (0x80 from the start of the string)

[cyan oracle]

❤ thanks monkeyman 😃 hexedit got thing goin in the right direction..

[cyan oracle]

is it just me, or are the megaplanters broken?

the 4 square planters.. they seem to have an issue with snapping ("planting") plants..

[obsidian tree]

😉 glad to help 😛

I wrote a script you may be interested in at some point. It merges gstream files

I want to get it to merge geometry files and scene files too, so that we can add new player parts

but the geometry and scene file merging is harder

gstream files are easy to merge

if they had optimised all the geometry stuff better it would be easier 😛

[hearty wasp]

I just read that and I nofu fucking idea on what I just read

I haven't edited a single hex in my entire life but is shifting easy

[cyan oracle]

I couldn't get it with removing the "_" w/o crashing the game when trying to load.. but replacing the "_" with a "K" was good enough to make parts link up and render in

[hearty wasp]

replacing the character does sounds safer than shifting the whole file

cos from what I've always seen the in past an underscore below the name makes the node not get loaded by default

and removing that is what made it work back in the day

[cyan oracle]

I get what you're sayin.. but this is a custom file.. a clone of a vanilla edited for my bidding.. it's a static model, so it doesn't need a descriptor or "_" parts..

[hearty wasp]

Yeah that's what I mean

[old snow]

im in my discord overlay....i can move anything..

can't*

[cyan oracle]

7 down.. 2 more to go..

[hearty wasp]

btw what hex editor do you use

haven't used any once in my life

also do I uhh edit all 3 geometry files

[cyan oracle]

I'm using hexedit 4.. and yea, I'm doing all 3, but I'm not sure if all 3 are necessary.. I'm sure the mbin.PC ones are at least, and I figured one more for safe measure was probably a wise idea

[hearty wasp]

ye, better safe than sorry

[cyan oracle]

and ofc, I am only changing the names of the nodes I need to change.. anything I'm not using I'm still leaving default name..

[hearty wasp]

exactly what I'm gonna do too

[cyan oracle]

I'm worn and exhausted on just GrowMoar.. man, I can't imagine the nightmare you're facing with Eucli-ea

[hearty wasp]

I haven't much proc gen to force... except for trees and rocks

and those are only, what, 10 geometries for 50 scenes max?

probably fewer

if this works my biggest concern would be NPC spawning in buildables

[hearty wasp]

it worked, nice

[cyan oracle]

lol, interesting head.. is that the Korvax mk½?

j/k, that's really cool.. reminds me of the 3D hologram in Maze Runner

[hearty wasp]

lol

nah it's just my old bootleg suit chamber

remember when I actually drew diagrams for shit to kitbash

[valid gyro]

Hey I'm pretty new to modding no man's sky. Is there any danger to my save file if I Uninstall graphical mods and run vanilla?

[hearty wasp]

nop

not even if you remove everything

game's good at looking over your past mistakes

[valid gyro]

Nice, is there anything I need to do like delete the shader cache? I remember some save breaking happening in skyrim when going back to vanilla so I wanted to make sure.

[hearty wasp]

yeah, you can delete shader cache just to be on the safe side

now not doing it rarely crashes the game tho

[valid gyro]

Ok thanks!

[undone sparrow]

@hearty wasp dude did you published this or still on progress?

[hearty wasp]

207/517 scenes updated atm

if you want it faster and have basic knowledge of markup language slide into my dm and I'll have work for you to do in no time

no pay tho, I'm poor

[undone sparrow]

xd

i just ask to see more footage

[dreamy tulip]

Uranium Forest

[cyan oracle]

moarsnaps

[dreamy tulip]

Nice, @cyan oracle

Did you get it working?

Was Greg's updated viewer, helpful?

[cyan oracle]

still need to do zinc.. been dicking w/ megaplanter for last couple hours

haven't used it yet.. still going off old exmls and new vanilla files.. luckily the batchcount hasn't changed for any of the mesh pieces, so that's helping to be a useful identifier

planters can now be placed outside or placed like decoration on any surface lacking snapping points.. if the surface has snapping points for the planter to link to, it will.. also restored the ability to rotate plants in the planters, eliminated the fuel requirement and interaction in general, and added a blue glow effect to the megaplanter..

[dreamy tulip]

Awesome man, I'm glad that you found the necessary solution

Despite how tedious

Have you looked into the farm grow timing?

[cyan oracle]

same setup as it's always been.. guessing they just changed the times themselves

atm, my entities are using 2 seconds to full bloom and harvest ready.. so I can quickly test each stage

but the entities will be a variety pack of flavors to go in combination with the model/texture .pak.. a 2 part modular~ish mod..

this way players can have quick growing plants, or longer growing (more time consuming) plants.. however they wish

[dreamy tulip]

Yeah, would make sense for it to be entitiy or global related

I would assume entity

Oh, we should update our Oblivion Style sentinel drone mod at some point

I haven't gotten around to it yet

As I've been pretty tied up studying C#, and writing in this base

for my next mod-release in the future

[cyan oracle]

yea.. I'm not very anxious or excited to update that bish.. model manipulation isn't easy atm..

[dreamy tulip]

I'll take a look

I updated a few things so far

[bronze mantle]

Actually, I think modified shaders are set to auto rebuild now.

[dreamy tulip]

@cyan oracle

LOL

[bronze mantle]

there's gold in them thar hills