#nms-modding | No Man's Sky | Page 120

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:20 AM

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You edited it out

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Yeah

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That's what I just tried too

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:20 AM

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Remember, HUD.MBIN has all the default settings right there.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:20 AM

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Maybe it's called elsewhere

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:21 AM

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I think the individual files are in part called from there, tbh. But there's definitely some extra .exe junk going on.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:24 AM

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What do you tihnk the datafilenames are for?

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Currently testing by adding it to the ROOT.MBIN

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:27 AM

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They're precisely for loading up the separate files.

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But there's the standard lurking .exe madness at play on some level in it.

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There's also the trick that you have to ensure you've adjusted every datafilename path.

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At least, I'm pretty positive on that from when I gave it a go with a custom file.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:32 AM

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Ah yeah, did you try with ROOT?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:35 AM

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Nah, didn't find any solid HUD info in there.

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As relating to the HUD files themselves, that is.

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I think I saw more to do with the .dds files?

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Reviewing prior iteration tests.

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I tested the custom file swap like 50 iterations ago.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:37 AM

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I know that it's possible to specify custom mbins in here

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in root

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:38 AM

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If it's not where the HUD is being pulled in from tho...

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:39 AM

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It's weird, like it works for inventory stuff

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through there

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:40 AM

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HUD & GUI=Separate things.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:40 AM

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Yeah, fair enough

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:40 AM

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I'm sure ya know that, but...Yeah.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:41 AM

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That's weird

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I was able to call my modified mbin

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through there

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using ROOT

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At line...

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581212

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:42 AM

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Hmm.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:42 AM

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But the weird thing is...

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It still made the default one now get loaded

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:43 AM

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lol

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:43 AM

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arghhh

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📎 275850_20180220204330_1.png

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And I know that there's no custom mbin in

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UI/HUD

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I just got an idea tho

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What if...

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I null the other details out

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Except planet

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So that it doesn't try to load it twice?

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wait holdon

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Gotta retry

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:50 AM

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I'm just trying a quick, straight-up only root file tweak.

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It is similar enough to the HUD formatting for some of the iterations I've tried to maybe work on that.

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But I'm suspecting there'll be some distortion or somesuch in the mix.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:51 AM

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Actually nvm

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didn't work

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and wtheck?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:51 AM

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Heh.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:51 AM

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📎 275850_20180220205114_1.png

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lol

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:51 AM

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Oh yeah, I get that a lot.

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Like when I tried to call only the planet info from HUDHAZARD and let HUD handle the rest, it's just like: "Uh, nah, HUDHAZARD or bust, forget me."

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:52 AM

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That happened in the inventory?

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Looks trippy

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like it's called 3x xD

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:53 AM

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That's probably because you tried loading HUDHAZARD from Root.

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Custom HUDHAZARD, but still.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:53 AM

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There's also no extreme storm

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And whattup with the bypass chips

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lol

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Yeah man

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So, back to square one

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darnit

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Unless, maybe I try adding it to the healthbar

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asgain

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:56 AM

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Won't work.

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 1:56 AM

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Couldn't you just release this clean version as a standalone?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:56 AM

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The game is loading in the data with a sharp eye on the filename.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:57 AM

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Why does mountain dew smell like a summer pool?

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Random thoughts sorry

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Anyway

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I tried renaming it

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to

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hudhealth

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just now

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:58 AM

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Like apparently the only way to get this even close to working is to try and move the entire dumb HUDHAZARD component to the upper left and try to move its functional parts to the lower left in a displaced HUDHEALTH or some madness like that.

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Some weird crosswiring mess, basically.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:59 AM

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If there was a way to

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Just move the planet name upwards

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:59 AM

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Mm, yeah, like I thought, Root handles all GUI stuff.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:59 AM

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and bypass that cutting off limit

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None of it would be necesarry

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and the hazard data

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would still be on the bottom

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 1:59 AM

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Or at least the tab GUI stuff.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:59 AM

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The first thing I tried to do was simply

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move the planet name upwards

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But it would cut off after a few inches

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as if it was trapped in the box

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:00 AM

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Anyway, yeah, that's what I was trying to do with the HUDHAZARD both after the crisscrossing ideas from earlier and before the more recent crisscrossing ideas.

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But I can't seem to pin down what's defining the bounds for the component.

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Because I started upping and upping the y position/height on the planet info subcomponent, but like ya said, eventually it just gets cut off or stuck.

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And nothing in the parent hazard component seems to indicate a boundary area. Not really, anyway.

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Tbh, it wouldn't be such a problem if the data wasn't fixed to be drawn on specific components like this.

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Boundary or no, if you could just get it to draw in the HUDHEALTH/HUDWEAPON components, no big deal.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:04 AM

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The weird thing is that it was possible in the past via the hudhazzard

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to move it upwards

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I wonder if there is something telling it not to

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:04 AM

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I mean I could still move it upwards? It just hit a certain spot where it wouldn't go up further, unless I also moved the parent up.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:05 AM

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In an old hud mod, it was moved upwards

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W/o cutting off

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It's weird

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But it stopped working

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:05 AM

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I got it to do that? Without cutting off, I mean.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:05 AM

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I think

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You did?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:05 AM

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Yeah, but it just stops like halfway.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:05 AM

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Just the planet name?

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Oh

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Yeah

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Now

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Any idea why that is?

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Oh yeah

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you said

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:05 AM

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See above: I don't know wtf is defining boundaries, lol

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:05 AM

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"And nothing in the parent hazard component seems to indicate a boundary area. Not really, anyway."

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Weird

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Yeah

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um

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:06 AM

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And given the HUD folder seems largely self-contained, whatever's handling this has to be .exe-side, I feel.

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Yup. Had that a few times.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:06 AM

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📎 275850_20180220210635_1.png

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Yep.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:07 AM

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The hazard bar is there

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But I just added it as a direct child

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of the parent

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in the hudhealth

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:07 AM

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It just can't draw the planet info on the HUDHEALTH component for dumb reasons.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:07 AM

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w/o modifying the hazard

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I just edited the hudhealth file

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Yeah, I did that way earlier.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:07 AM

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no file renaming

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yeah

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Maybe I can figure out why it's broken tho

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:07 AM

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I had to rename to get the planet name to draw on it at all.

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And not just the trash text.

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I went through HUD.MBIN/HUDHAZARD.MBIN and removed planet info from them, in HUD.MBIN I moved it under HEALTH, then added it to HUDHEALTH.MBIN, but no luck there.

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Because I thought back to what I had said earlier about it not being able to draw the same data twice, and thought that might be why it was breaking on HUDHEALTH, but it's not.

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It literally just has some hardcoded noise that only draws the text if the component file is named HUDHAZARD.MBIN.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:10 AM

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So, deleting the "PLANET" data

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from HUDHAZARD

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and putting it only in HUDHEALTH

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wouldn't work?

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Random idea

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:10 AM

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Nope.

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I commented it out to be sure, and it displays correctly insofar as it's removed from HUDHAZARD, but then it only renders as trash text on HUDHEALTH.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:11 AM

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What if swapping the data from both files?

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This is the madness

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you mentioned right

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?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:11 AM

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lol

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:11 AM

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lol

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:11 AM

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Roughly speaking, yeah.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:13 AM

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Maybe the boundaries are relevant to the padding?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:13 AM

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If you move HUDHAZARD up and then HUDHEALTH down, it'll defeat the entire purpose by swapping the positioning. If you only move HUDHAZARD up, swap its extra subcomponents to HUDHEALTH moved down, and HUDHEALTH's subcomponents to HUDHAZARD...Bleh, I just think you'd hit a hardcoded issue with HUDHEALTH functionality or something.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:14 AM

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Changing this at the very top in the hudhazard

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allowed me to move it up

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w/o boundaries

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<Data template="GcNGuiLayerData">
  <Property name="Data" value="GcNGuiElementData.xml">
    <Property name="ID" value="" />
    <Property name="PresetID" value="" />
    <Property name="IsHidden" value="False" />
    <Property name="Layout" value="GcNGuiLayoutData.xml">
      <Property name="PositionX" value="0" />
      <Property name="PositionY" value="1080" />
      <Property name="Width" value="1080" />
      <Property name="WidthPercentage" value="False" />
      <Property name="Height" value="1080" />
      <Property name="HeightPercentage" value="False" />
      <Property name="ConstrainProportions" value="False" />
      <Property name="ConstrainAspect" value="1" />
      <Property name="Anchor" value="True" />
      <Property name="AnchorPercent" value="False" />
      <Property name="SameLine" value="False" />
      <Property name="Align" value="TkNGuiAlignment.xml">
        <Property name="Vertical" value="Bottom" />
        <Property name="Horizontal" value="Left" />
      </Property>```

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:14 AM

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The reason you have to move them about at all like that, btw, is that I think HUDHAZARD can't replace HUDHEALTH's positioning.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:14 AM

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But I had to move the entire thing

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Not just the planet

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:14 AM

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Yeah.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:14 AM

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I also made "PLANET" a direct child

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of it

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:14 AM

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That's what I was trying to say a bit earlier.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Unlesss....

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I move the rest of the stuff down

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Hmmm

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While keeping planet up there

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new idea o try

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Like I can move the entire HUDHAZARD component around pretty easily, and its subcomponents, but...The subcomponents are stuck in a field around the primary component.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:15 AM

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to try

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:16 AM

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So if you try moving the primary component down, while keeping planet info up, it'll be up, sure, but like we talked about earlier, within the bounds.

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I'm pretty sure after about 60 iterations on this I've tried just about everything with these particular HUD files, lol

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That doesn't involve just scrapping some stuff altogether and building custom files.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:18 AM

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Yeah

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For the heck of it tho

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Currently gonna try keeping the planet up top

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But moving the rest down

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Likely a dead end

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Strangely

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think I broke the text

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in hudhazard

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Gonna try to move it down tho

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Maybe the boundaries rely on the dimensions

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at the very top

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:27 AM

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lol

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I thought that too, and tried playing with them, but without much luck.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:27 AM

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Calling planet twice broke the text

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actually

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:27 AM

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Yeah.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:27 AM

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In the file

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:27 AM

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It does that.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:27 AM

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Forgot to delete the old

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yeah]

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:28 AM

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I think I already tried loading in the data as its own thing without datafilename in HUD... 🤔

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:33 AM

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I'm like on my two hundredth test smh

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Or somewhere around there by now

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Gonna try to move this down

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📎 275850_20180220214143_1.png

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Heh.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:44 AM

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The hazardbar

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:44 AM

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I'm just reviewing my iterations to see if I can spot anything I might have missed.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Oh I see

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:46 AM

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Found my iteration that indicated to me that HUD.MBIN is sorta the fallback I thought it was earlier, i.e. if no file path provided it'll do its own thing.

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 2:46 AM

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So could we technically have iterations?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:49 AM

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Oh yeah. We could have a bunch of marginally different HUDHAZARD positionings if we wanted, lol

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:49 AM

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Hmm

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:50 AM

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Same with other HUD components.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:50 AM

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What do you mean?

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" if no file path provided it'll do its own thing."

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:51 AM

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Keep the HUD.MBIN default Hazard entry, remove the filename path to HUDHAZARD.MBIN, it'll still load up the HUDHAZARD component, even if you have a custom HUDHAZARD.MBIN with most of its subcomponents gutted, planet info aside.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:51 AM

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This could help with the boundary issue?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:51 AM

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🤷

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Maybe?

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:51 AM

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📎 275850_20180220214143_1.png

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:52 AM

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You might be able to work something through HUD.MBIN alone, but I sure as hell haven't figured out how yet.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Ah

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Yeah still looking into it myself

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Mm, maybe gut all the filename paths and have it working straight from there... 🤔

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:52 AM

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"Keep the HUD.MBIN default Hazard entry, remove the filename path to HUDHAZARD.MBIN, it'll still load up the HUDHAZARD component, even if you have a custom HUDHAZARD.MBIN with most of its subcomponents gutted, planet info aside."

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Sorry keep quoting you

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So, what you mena is...

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It's possible to have the planet name up to

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and the hazard info on the bottom left?

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Because of removing the filepath?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 2:54 AM

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No.

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It'll just load at default position.

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But you may be able to work more flexibly from within HUD.MBIN alone, for all I know.

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I haven't tried clearing out several more filename paths and rearranging things from there.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:58 AM

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Gonna try it

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Wait

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What if the reason why putting it in HUDHEALTH is breaking it

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is because it's already being called in HUDHAZARD?

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What if it's not hardcoded

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Thought it, tested it.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:06 AM

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And could delete it from HUDHAZARD

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and try only in HUDHEALTH

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:07 AM

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Yep, tried it.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:07 AM

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Ah

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Okay

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:07 AM

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That was my exact thought process and then I tried it and it still came up trash text. v_v

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:08 AM

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I wonder what the HUD.MBIN is for though

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Seems like everything just duplicated lol

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Yet, disabling it invokes a ctd

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Just tried removing planet

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in the hud.mbin

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to see if it still gets loaded

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:11 AM

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Wha, how would you even disable it? Just empty it out? lol

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:12 AM

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Still got loaded

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Feel like I'm doing the same thing over and over

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lol

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I just replaced it with a renamed global

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lol

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To see if it was even getting loaded

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:13 AM

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Which global is it being loaded from?

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:13 AM

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Oh no, I literally renamed a global to HUD.MBIN

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And got a ctd

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:13 AM

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...

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So...The global was definitely being loaded, lol

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:13 AM

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Wanted to see if HUD.MBIN is even used

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Because so far, changing things on my end has done nothing

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:14 AM

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That...Doesn't really suggest that sort of check.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:14 AM

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in there

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Figured it might be an unused file

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:14 AM

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That means it was checking for the global and in renaming it, ya caused a CTD because that global's required. Not anything about HUD.MBIN.

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Unless I'm misunderstanding ya.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:15 AM

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Oh no, I put the global in the UI folder

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UI > HUD

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and renamed it

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to HUD.MBIN

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:15 AM

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dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:15 AM

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for a .pak

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:15 AM

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That's a really weird way to check that, but okay. lol

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:15 AM

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To determine whether or not HUD.MBIN is getting loaded

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Or if it's redundant

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If it didn't CTD I would expect it to be redundant

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but it did

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So now I'm confuzzled lol

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:16 AM

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Yeah, that makes more sense now. Earlier phrasing had me thinking you'd found HUD.MBIN in a global, lol

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:16 AM

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Because changing the inside of HUD.MBIN so far changed nothing lol

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Oh, I see

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Nah

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I wish

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lol

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:17 AM

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But yeah, HUD.MBIN seems to primarily be loading in the components, while also providing some weird fallback settings for if a file ends up corrupt, or something, I guess.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Have you gotten anything to change by editing it?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Yeah. I've gotten planet info to load in twice on top of itself, but the second being trash text.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Wait, what did you do again?

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What you said earlier?

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I just tried that with no result

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Mainly from creating a duplicate HAZARD parent, Planet info child.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Maybe I did it wrong

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:19 AM

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With link to HUDHAZARD still.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:19 AM

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Confused

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Um

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Duplicate hazard parent

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In

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The HUD.MBIN?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:21 AM

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Yeah. Retrieving the iteration where I tried this.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:22 AM

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Okay

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:25 AM

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There we go, found it. Loading in to snapshot.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:25 AM

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Okay

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Did you see it?

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📎 275850_20180220224930_1.png

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:50 AM

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Thought I'd found it, but apparently it's in one of these other iterations. Been digging through to find which, lol

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Oh arn lol

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Oh darn lol

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Yeah

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We did a lot of testing lol

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:51 AM

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I mean there's also other indicators, in a way, like the basic loading in defaults stuff.

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But that's not super apparent, lol

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:52 AM

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I really like the way it looks, just that darn missing hazard info

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lol

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Is it essential though?

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Like a needed function

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in survival or normal

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I kinda do feel like it's in the way

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And I recall i 2016, it used to be up top?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Hazard info? I mean...Yeah.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Is it also in the binoc?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:55 AM

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It indicates your life support too, and when your hazard shields are about to go off.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:56 AM

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Yeah

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:56 AM

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Hmm. Temp is, at least.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:56 AM

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Maybe I can put it there instead?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Maybe, yeah. Might be the clunky workaround.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:57 AM

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But then agan

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that bar

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which increases/decreases

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Not sure if that could work there

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yet

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I think it's HUDBINOC

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Yeah, I dunno what all can work moved about due to the practically invisible hardcoded side of all this.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Ah, taking a look in the HUD binoc

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atm

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AT Gmr

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@supple wadi

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What the heckkkk

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Just loaded up normal mode and saw this

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📎 275850_20180220231948_1.png

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It's not on creative tho

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:21 AM

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lol

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Yeaah, gotta test this side of things more in Normal than anything else.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Yeah

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That's a good thing though

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lol

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Doesn't even belong/need to be in creative

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lol

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Bet I could reposition it to those circles

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Or all the way down perhpas

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Which it? The bars?

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:24 AM

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The life support and hazard

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Bet I could move them down to those two ticks

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So they at-least look in place

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ad set my HUD to auto fade instead

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so it's not always in the way

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Or

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Hopefully move them all the way to the bottom

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This stuff is just rediculous

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The benefit I see is that

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it's only in normal

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:26 AM

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-sigh-

📎 NMS_2018-02-20_23-25-58.png

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:27 AM

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xD

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Wait wut

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You got it working?

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That seriously looks like it

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Nope. It only renders with garbo text.

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I just got tired of wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwxxx.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Pls Work?

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O

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Oh

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xD

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Yeah.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:30 AM

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I'll send the file on my end if you want

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Not sure if it could help

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:30 AM

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But I still needed/felt like I needed something to indicate to me, "Okay it's doing something, but not what we're after"

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:30 AM

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Ah yyeah

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yeeah*

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yeah*

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:30 AM

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Like that file was actually a TITLE id test.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:30 AM

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Dumb blutooth keyboard lagging

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:32 AM

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'cause I also glanced at the binoc info since I saw it also draws the planet name there.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:32 AM

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Yeah it does

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Different ID right?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:32 AM

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But I didn't see it matching the HUDHAZARD stuff.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:32 AM

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It's weird

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Yeah

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I tried changing stuff in there a bit ago

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no difference

random flint Feb 21, 2018, 4:38 AM

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Hey, um @dreamy tulip. Thank you again for making me realise I was on 1.3, lol. I likely wouldn't have ever figured it out myself. I found the patch and updated to 1.38 and your overhaul works flawlessly now. =)

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:39 AM

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Wonderful! I'm glad to hear that 😃

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And I'm glad that I was able to help

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@supple wadi This finally looks feasable

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To do what I was trying to do

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As the life support and hazard bar still shows up

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and the temp is already in the binoc anyway

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Just needs a bit of adjusting

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:44 AM

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Hey, if that arrangement works for ya, 👍

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:44 AM

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Yeah... thanks for the help :)
Will add you to the credits for that

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Hoping this all turns out well

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The lifesupport is the

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"Energybar"

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apparently

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Need to reposition it

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Might also make the dds a bit more transparent

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:48 AM

#

also this is my fav. dumb find:

<Property name="Data" value="GcNGuiElementData.xml">
                <Property name="ID" value="DISCOVERER_NAME" />
                <Property name="PresetID" value="DEFAULT" />
...
<Property name="Text" value="xXSephirothXx2017" />```

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:49 AM

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Oh yeah

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haha

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Wait

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that's in my hud right now

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binoculars

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i mean

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the hgeck?

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📎 275850_20180220234921_1.png

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:54 AM

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lol

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did you set it to true? 😛

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 4:54 AM

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I don't think so lol

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Think I broke something in there

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xD

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 4:55 AM

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oops

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Any idea what the icon dds is

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/377229206351773696/415726041747685376/NMS_2018-02-20_23-25-58.png?width=1084&height=704

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Bottom left

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For the energybar?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Umm, not offhand.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Okay, will keep looking for it

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 5:21 AM

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Wait, do you mean for the bar itself that continually decreases or for the Life Support?

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 5:21 AM

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Yeah, just trying to find the right area

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in the hudhazard

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so that I can move it down

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Figured that

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If i can find wherer the dds is referenced

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I can just adjsut the bar

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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You may just have to cut out a bunch of bar lines.

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I may be wrong, but I don't currently see any apparent .dds files for it.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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📎 275850_20180220231948_1.png

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Ah, yeah that's weird

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Same

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Looks like a shader

random flint Feb 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Weird request... maybe. Is there a mod that makes the windowed game client resizable? Like, without having to manually specify in the mxml settings file. I'd love to be able to drag to resize it like any other window.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Sadly there isn't :/

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It's an exe issue

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Hoping HG's does the same actually

random flint Feb 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Aw, okay. Was worth a shot I guess lol.

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I hope they do it too.

smoky wing Feb 21, 2018, 5:39 AM

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Oh, xXSephirothXx2017! I remember people talking about coming across things discovered before the game's release by some player named xXSephirothXx2017. Speculation was some random beta tester. A placeholder name in the code explains that.

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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That sounds vaguely familiar, lol

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 6:49 AM

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Still testing

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Figured I'd disable the that hazard thing

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Since E3 didn't have it xD

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Certainly better than being in the way

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 6:51 AM

#

that moment when you accidentally just recreate the E3 scripted scenes and everyone thinks you broke the game because they can't leave the system. 😛

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 6:59 AM

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xD

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 7:32 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/3RemCPh.jpg

Imgur

275850_20180221022307_2.png

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:15 AM

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PERFECT!

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Please, release the standalone

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:27 AM

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Still doing final touches on some things 😛

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Notice the top right boxes are grey

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Just fixed it to make it blend better

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📎 275850_20180221032732_1.png

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Also, further positioning the name a tad bit

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:30 AM

#

One more thing if I may suggest

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Can you capitalize the planet's name?

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:30 AM

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Sadly not

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It works for the weapon, but in this case for some reason not the planet

tawny peak Feb 21, 2018, 8:31 AM

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🤔

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That’s odd

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:31 AM

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Then could we change the font universally to Bold Geosans?

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:31 AM

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It's the E3 font

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I prefer that

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But I made it bolder

tawny peak Feb 21, 2018, 8:31 AM

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Also holy balls does that UI look slick af ray

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:31 AM

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The E3 font is geosanslight but anyway

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I remember a Pathfinder font replacer that made it universally bold

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:32 AM

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@tawny peak Thanks!

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:32 AM

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I'll link it when I get home

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:32 AM

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I can make it bolder

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Than it is

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But it is universally bolder atm

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I edited the actual font

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for all things in-game

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If you want

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:33 AM

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A completely captalized version, I mean

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:33 AM

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That's not going to work well unfortunately

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Because

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Everything in the game would be capitalized

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And some things are meant not to be

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:34 AM

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It was quite heavy on the eyes though, yes

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:35 AM

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Maybe I can force the proc name in the language file to capital letters

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 8:39 AM

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@dreamy tulip, you sure on that? There's ForceUpperCase as an option in the styles below the GcNGuiElementData.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:39 AM

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Yeah, I tried it

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I marked them all to true

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for this file ahead of time :/

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Didn't prevail though

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 8:41 AM

#

Wait...Hmm. Is that using your adjusted font?

#

I suspect it might work for vanilla font?

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:41 AM

#

In the picture?
There's a few things going on... There's a custom font, but the black outlines and thickness is done through this UI file

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But by default the font is bolder

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I haven't tried with vanilla font though

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:42 AM

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It worked with the E3 font back then

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If the horribly outdated Destiny font mod that modifies quite a few files still works, I guess that might too

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:43 AM

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It definitely did, in the trailers

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:44 AM

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Back in Pathfinder/Foundation I mean

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 8:44 AM

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Giving it a quick little peek.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:44 AM

#

What do you mean?

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@echo oxide

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:45 AM

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The E3 font could be forced into capitalization back in Foundation/Pathfinder

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:45 AM

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Hmm, have you seen it done before?

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:45 AM

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Yes, there was a mod, around the release of Megaliths

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:45 AM

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Do you remember what it's called?

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Was it a font mod?

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:46 AM

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Yes, it was a font mod

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On nomansskymods, not nexus

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:46 AM

#

Sure, it wasn't just...

#

The font itself edited

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to be captialized

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for all font

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 8:47 AM

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Didn't really get to play with it

#

But yeah..

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:47 AM

#

Okay

#

Yeah, that's a bit diff.... as it would make all font capitalized

#

But in this case, what GMR is looking into atm

#

Is maybe if forcing the planet name there only

#

or so

#

can make that only capital

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via ui configuration

#

which would be much better if it works

#

It didn't for me though, for the planet name

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 8:48 AM

#

Yeah. I mean we could swap out fonts all day, I guess, but doing it via the files themselves would be much nicer.

#

Hmm. Damn, no go even with ForceUpperCase set in both HUD & HUDHAZARD under the Planet entries.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:50 AM

#

I was thinking it might be related to

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 8:50 AM

#

Do we know what's up with the FontIndex?

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:50 AM

#

%PROCNAME%

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for eg

#

I wonder if it's in the METADATA > UI files

#

weird

#

    <Property value="TkImGuiWindowData.xml">
      <Property name="Type" value="GcPlanetData" />
      <Property name="WindowX" value="0" />
      <Property name="WindowY" value="0" />
      <Property name="WindowW" value="440" />
      <Property name="WindowH" value="600" />
      <Property name="WindowMinW" value="200" />
      <Property name="WindowMinH" value="100" />
      <Property name="WindowResize" value="True" />
      <Property name="WindowScroll" value="0" />
      <Property name="WindowTab" value="0" />
      <Property name="WindowOpen" value="False" />
      <Property name="WindowMinimised" value="False" />
      <Property name="WindowUsed" value="True" />
    </Property>```

#

This stuff is maddening

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 8:56 AM

#

oh.

#

wait.

#

duh.

#

why haven't we been looking through there to begin with anyway

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 8:56 AM

#

I was looking all through them yesterday

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But didn't see what I was looking for

#

Was trying to see if there was anything for boundaries

#

Would be nice to have it uppercased/equivelant

#

I'm afraid that they may have forced the planets named

#

with a static text

#

but maybe not

#

because I think they transitioned into space and it changed

#

Yeah, they had it functional

#

not forced

#

unless

#

It's being forced as capital through the e3 scripts

#

as they did force the name there

#

for the planet and system

#

bout to check

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 9:03 AM

#

lol

#

setting font index to 1 just made it smaller

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 9:04 AM

#

hmmm

#

metadata > ui?

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 9:04 AM

#

Nah, just in HUDHAZARD

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 9:04 AM

#

weird

#

but not capital right?

#

setting font height makes it bigger/smaller

#

too

supple wadi Feb 21, 2018, 9:05 AM

#

Yeah, not capital.

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 9:26 AM

#

Cool

#

This is what it looks like now

#

📎 275850_20180221042712_1.png

#

📎 275850_20180221042825_1.png

#

I adjusted the outline size a bit

#

to give the name a subtle glow

#

like I did on the right side

#

Noticeable in game

tawny peak Feb 21, 2018, 9:30 AM

#

cool

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 9:58 AM

#

Just made adjsutments to the right and left hud

#

Gonna load up and see

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 10:42 AM

#

@echo oxide

RaYRoD's E3 2013 User Interface Overhaul
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LxAFWISWRz_lOZEhQ3UKsZYUKE-0lswP

Google Docs

zzRaYRoD's E3 2013 User Interface Overhaul.pak

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 10:42 AM

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Wow

#

Thanks so much Rayrod

#

So should I just drop it in?

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 10:45 AM

#

Yeah, that will work 😛

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 11:53 AM

#

📎 275850_20180221065311_1.png

#

📎 275850_20180221065423_1.png

#

📎 275850_20180221065510_1.png

marsh aurora Feb 21, 2018, 12:49 PM

#

Tbh the glow at the text seems a bit odd

#

I liked it better without

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:03 PM

#

Thanks, trying without

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 1:06 PM

#

Noticed a few weird issues

#

Names flow out of the box

#

And the hint tab is half transparent

#

Also, the white health bar really sticks out

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:09 PM

#

No problem, taking a break right now... but I will get around to fixing it

#

Only thing I have left to fix now is

#

the bar

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 1:43 PM

#

@echo oxide

#

Looking better so far

#

📎 275850_20180221084325_1.png

#

left side

echo oxide Feb 21, 2018, 1:43 PM

#

Yeah

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:06 PM

#

Fixed + No glow

#

📎 275850_20180221090615_1.png

#

Took an hour to figure out

#

But was worth it

#

@echo oxide
New version with a few extra options

#

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LxAFWISWRz_lOZEhQ3UKsZYUKE-0lswP

Google Docs

zzRaYRoD's E3 2013 User Interface Overhaul.pak

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 2:54 PM

#

📎 275850_20180221095234_1.png

#

📎 275850_20180221095303_1.png

#

📎 275850_20180221095225_1.png

#

📎 275850_20180221095314_1.png

exotic violet Feb 21, 2018, 2:58 PM

#

What's the best place to get the most up to date version?

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 3:00 PM

#

Currently on Nexusmods. The version that I am working on still isn't released yet

frosty vine Feb 21, 2018, 3:42 PM

#

You got rid of the hazard thingies!

exotic violet Feb 21, 2018, 6:53 PM

#

Great thanks

west moat Feb 21, 2018, 8:17 PM

#

Can I use the e3overhaul by its self or does it comes as part of your whole rayrod overhaul package

frosty vine Feb 21, 2018, 11:30 PM

#

...its one thing, my dude

#

He might make a special version, if you just want the hud

dreamy tulip Feb 21, 2018, 11:59 PM

#

I don't follow

#

@west moat

#

Are you referring to the E3 2013 HUD?

west moat Feb 22, 2018, 12:19 AM

#

Yes sir

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 12:23 AM

#

Oh cool, yeah... I posted a standalone for it above 😃

#

Enjoy!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LxAFWISWRz_lOZEhQ3UKsZYUKE-0lswP

Google Docs

zzRaYRoD's E3 2013 User Interface Overhaul.pak

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 12:50 AM

#

🤦 https://i.redd.it/3z8i6escvlh01.png

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 12:54 AM

#

lol

echo oxide Feb 22, 2018, 12:55 AM

#

shadow of the NOPE

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 12:56 AM

#

can only hope that's a super rare occurrence

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 12:56 AM

#

Yeah

#

Moments like this will be possible, but extremely rare.

#

It's from a test overhaul version

#

Oppressor11 is AssassinsSteed11

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 12:57 AM

#

Aaah, I suspected that might be the case.

echo oxide Feb 22, 2018, 12:58 AM

#

If they could have other means of attacking other than melee ramming..

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 12:58 AM

#

They attack like spiders

#

Would love to see more advanced creature ai though

#

The kind of advancement beyond the game's current limitations

#

HG's mentioned awhile back that they have little experience in animation, and only a few people their worked with it

#

But I assume that they hired people for it by now, or learned more

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 12:59 AM

#

stick a laser bit on the creatures and change the laser look to spittyglobbygunk? 😛

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 1:00 AM

#

Maybe that could actually work? xD

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 1:00 AM

#

🤔

echo oxide Feb 22, 2018, 1:00 AM

#

📎 LWcZZJL.gif

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 1:00 AM

#

Probably not though. If the AI doesn't know to use it, I can't imagine it'd be used...

#

You'd have a better chance of smashing pirates down to surface level and changing the ship model to a bird or somethin'

#

But even then, they probably won't attack you when you're on foot.

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 1:01 AM

#

I read someone saying that Sean once accidently possessed a shark

#

in nms

#

And was playing as it

#

In early testing

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 2:01 AM

#

@supple wadi

#

Do you think these sounds are still in the files?
They are there in the rc1 version

#

https://youtu.be/hlXfLzuaRRU?t=31

YouTube

Elca

► No Man's Sky | 4 mins. RAW B-Roll Footage with Sounds! [HQ]

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supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 2:02 AM

#

Mm, they might be? But there are a ton of audio files.

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 2:03 AM

#

Yeah, I was looking throug hthem

#

Need to check again

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 2:03 AM

#

I'm not sure what they might even be tagged as. Ambient bird calls? Ambient [setting descriptor]?

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 2:03 AM

#

Gotta check again, I forgot

#

I'd replace it

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:16 AM

#

I actually like those sounds a lot

#

though admittedly a lot of them are the same as they are now, besides some out in the wild. though I can hear a little bit of a freighter change

#

the exosuit sounds are a LOT cooler and less noisy, though. wow.

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

#

@lime mesa

#

Have you heard that ship cockpit sound

#

in the portal trailer?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

#

nope. gonna check it out now

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

#

https://youtu.be/WQhSP82uhY4

YouTube

HelloGamesTube

No Man's Sky: Portal gameplay trailer

There are many ways you'll travel through No Man's Sky's infinite galaxy. Here are five. http://www.no-mans-sky.com/ No Man's Sky is a science-fiction game a...

▶ Play video

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:23 AM

#

everything about that ship UI I love

#

also, huh

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 3:23 AM

#

dat artificial busyness

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:23 AM

#

haha right

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:23 AM

#

I'd add the cockpit sound myself, but it would be interrupted by the trailer music

#

Don't think I can isolate it with pro tools

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:24 AM

#

does the B roll footage contain audio tracks that are the same in the cockpit?

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:24 AM

#

I don't think so, but that's a good question

#

I never checked

#

That sound effect in the portal trailer is really early

#

E3

#

Also, that walker sound man

#

You can also see the eclipse

#

And the ship doesn't take off so high

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:25 AM

#

^^^^

#

that's the biggest thing I've noticed of all the trailers. it's more free in general

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

#

There's alienbiome and rainforest biome asetts there

#

and some other stuff

#

Yeah

#

Cool stufff

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

#

the exosuit sounds way more ambient in the b roll footage

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

#

Oh, and a few glowingbiome trees

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

#

not sure why they changed it

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

#

I love, love, love it

#

Am planning to see what I can do to replicate everything but the sound

#

The sound I want to do too

#

but

#

Haven't started planning for it yet

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

#

first off, there isn't a voice nagging you in the b-roll afaik, and the sounds of your exosuit being damaged are less obnoxious as well. a bit jealous actually

#

even tho the sound design now is good

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

#

Also, @supple wadi

#

That warp at

#

1:08

#

I wonder what that's about

#

54 seconds in I mean

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:28 AM

#

is there anything in the game files where the original text overlayed on the top of the cockpit remains or was that edited in during the post processing phase? from the way it looks, it may have actually been edited in there as placeholder

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:29 AM

#

Which one?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

#

the original warp text

#

hang on

#

https://youtu.be/WQhSP82uhY4?t=53

YouTube

HelloGamesTube

No Man's Sky: Portal gameplay trailer

There are many ways you'll travel through No Man's Sky's infinite galaxy. Here are five. http://www.no-mans-sky.com/ No Man's Sky is a science-fiction game a...

▶ Play video

#

not saying that it looks better. just curious

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

#

Yeah, I believe it is

#

Also, that's a crystal biome

#

at 1:27

#

But it's sorta mixed in with some other stuff

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:35 AM

#

most of the HUD elements seem like they were edited in near the first few trailers

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:35 AM

#

I believe that I've seen that beacon, and that warp texture

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:35 AM

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especially the discoveries in the oria V footage

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:35 AM

#

Also, that cockpit stuff I believe is there too

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 3:36 AM

#

oh

#

huh

#

also

#

https://youtu.be/BGwm35bZJHE?t=758

YouTube

Elca

► No Man's Sky | 1h NEW Information with @theDudelino, CobraTV, Sirian Gaming & Elca | Podcast [HQ]

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portals' mechanics seem really cool

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I don't know why they changed them. having some type of procedural puzzle to open each one in a solar system would be cool and better than just filling in the glyphs

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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54 seconds in the portal vid?

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...What's particularly weird about the warp?

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What is interesting to me on reviewing that, is that they never went into the main portal itself.

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Nothing weird about it, but it's cool

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Because they just warped to another system

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w/o the map

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Also...

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Yeah man

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I'm planning to try that

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myself

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With that model, it has an entity

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just curious about it

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 3:47 AM

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The main portal was probably intended for system jumps. I suspect this may provide some light evidence for inter-planetary travel running off the sub-portals.

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Which would then explain the smooth transition.

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:47 AM

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That unused model has an entity

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still

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Not sure what for

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but it's interesting

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I did not look enough into it

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But yeah man

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 3:52 AM

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It's nothing interesting anymore.

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Or maybe never was. The entity's just for some ambient audio now.

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Where are you looking?

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 3:56 AM

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MODELS\PLANETS\BIOMES\COMMON\BUILDINGS\MONUMENTS\STARGATEMAIN\ENTITIES

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 3:57 AM

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I'm looking in stargattemple

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 3:58 AM

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It just references the different parts.

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And otherwise refers to the rotating bits.

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Yeah

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 9:24 AM

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Still working on this water, it may need more work though

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📎 275850_20180222042352_1.png

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📎 275850_20180222042344_1.png

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 9:56 AM

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Getting 100FPS in this forest with all 8K textures

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📎 275850_20180222045546_1.png

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 9:59 AM

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Wow very pretty pictures, great work ray @dreamy tulip

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 10:07 AM

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Thank you 😃

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 10:31 AM

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📎 275850_20180222053058_1.png

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:03 AM

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hello

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I need help from modders

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While playing NMS,the terrain produce its flora/fauna/animals,/rocks very slow they keep popping up right in front of me. I got a decent PC,so I don't think its from my computer. Is there any mod that fixes this?

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Please help

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Do you have a mods folder?

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Currently with mods in it?

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@lime mesa

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:17 AM

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Nope,I deleted every mod

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but the pooping is annoying

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spawns very slow

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I've made a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4sGNKlm4BU

YouTube

Ludogorets Razgrad

No Man's Sky Atlas Rises - Slow terrain generation PROBLEM

Here's a video,about how slow does the terrain generate it's flora/fauna,while driving the nomad,flying the ship and sometimes even by just walking.. Also a ...

▶ Play video

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:19 AM

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Can you send me your TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS file?

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I saw the video the last time you shared it

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No Man's Sky > Binaries > Settings

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:20 AM

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sure

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No mans sky

📎 TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS.MXML

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:22 AM

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    <Property name="NumHighThreads" value="1" />
    <Property name="NumLowThreads" value="1" />```

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Try changing these both to 10

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And see if it still occurs

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You can open it in notepad

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:32 AM

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Tried it,didn't work

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maybe if I try changing the number more than 10?

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:33 AM

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How many frames per second does your PC average on with vanilla NMS?

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Nah, don't do that. That will crash the game.

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:34 AM

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What is vanilla nms?

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Sorry, I mean without mods

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:39 AM

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I think since I changed those settings to 10,I got lower FPS,just checked its around 40,dropping to 30 constantly

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On low settings,resolution 1600x900 I don't get any lag,but the slow popping still happens the same way like high settings

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My specs are ram 8gb,intel i7 7700,gtx 1050ti 4gb

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:44 AM

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And you're sure that you aren't running any mods at all?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:47 AM

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When I press shift + F2 a window pop up reshade 3.0 by crosire

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Is this some mod?

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:48 AM

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That's not a mod, but ReShade can lag performance a lot

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You must've added the .dll

red iron Feb 22, 2018, 11:48 AM

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Modding talk makes my head throb 😄

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:48 AM

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into your binaries folder

red iron Feb 22, 2018, 11:48 AM

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How is everybody this evening?

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:49 AM

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I'm well/sleepy... how are you?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:49 AM

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I have a configuration setting file reshade in my nms folder

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every time I delete it,it gets back on its own

red iron Feb 22, 2018, 11:49 AM

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Pretty much the same. I tried installing a few mods just before and I'm trying them all out for the first time. Have to pick my moments these days because of most of them being taken up with Uni

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:49 AM

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Look for opengl32.dll in your binaries folder and try moving it out or deleting it... in-case ReShade is lagging your PC

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:49 AM

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recently I completely removed my game,and downloaded it

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it was again there

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:50 AM

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@red iron That's awesome.

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What mods did you try?

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@lime mesa

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Opengl32.dll doesn't get regenerated

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it's in your binaries folder

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Which is for ReShade

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:52 AM

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Yeah I deleted it

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:52 AM

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Cool

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:52 AM

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Ive tried many mods,for dark space,sweetfxs,rayrod overhaul

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currently not having any mods

echo oxide Feb 22, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Cleared shadercache?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:53 AM

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yeah

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I think this problem started shortly after the release of Atlas Rises

echo oxide Feb 22, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Try a new save?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:53 AM

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tried it,with Creative mode

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still slow pop up

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Please help I just bought the intel core i7 7700 few days ago to fix this problem,but no luck

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I tried setting the lowest settings and resolution,I got very huge FPS,but the slow terrain popping generation is the same like in highest resolution/settings

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 11:58 AM

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Are you able to send a screenshot of your PCBANKS folder?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 11:58 AM

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In my nms folder I got 4 folders, CommonRedist,Binaries,GAMEDATA,steam_shader_cache

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📎 4.png

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 12:02 PM

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That's really bizarre.

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Have you tried resetting your settings to default in-game?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 12:03 PM

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Nope,I'll try this now

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still the same

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can my Hard Drive Disk cause this problem?

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 12:07 PM

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Maybe so? Depends. How does your PC run apart from NMS

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Are you low on disk space?

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On my old HDD sometimes when I would get out of my ship it would freeze for like 50 seconds

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Was really bad

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 12:08 PM

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I have space,total 1TB where my game is located (C) I got 200GB free space

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 12:08 PM

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Maybe not then

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 12:08 PM

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📎 55.png

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 12:08 PM

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Windows 7?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 12:08 PM

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yes

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 12:08 PM

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Likely irrelevant

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 12:09 PM

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Disk data transfer rate is 5.9

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I don't know what to do to fix this problem

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anyone else having it?

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 12:25 PM

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I'm currently stumped, will let you know if I have any other ideas.

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Hopefully someone else here might know, but it sounds like it's non nms related partially.

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Not sure

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 12:26 PM

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I send Hello Games a message few weeks ago,but they didn't respond

clever adder Feb 22, 2018, 12:27 PM

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they usually dont salsasean

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 12:27 PM

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Sounds like it may be a 5400 RPM hard drive.

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That's typically related to slower read/write speeds. Have you noticed other games having a bit lengthy load times?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 12:42 PM

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I just checked my hard drive is 7200 RPM

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And I haven't noticed long load times in other games

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 12:42 PM

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🤔 Strange.

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 12:43 PM

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But its an old HDD,I think I bought it 2013

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Hitachi

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 12:43 PM

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The game just looks normal though, right? Nothing indicating reshade running?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 12:44 PM

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yeah no reshade,I deleted it

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It looks everything normal,except the slow pop in

supple wadi Feb 22, 2018, 12:45 PM

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Hmm, running current drivers?

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 12:45 PM

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yeah updated my newest GPU drivers few days ago

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Well I suppose when they release the new update,it will fix this problem

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hope its soon,I'm very serious about game graphics,and I cant play with this slow pop in

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tired of killing invisible animals and hitting rocks

dreamy tulip Feb 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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📎 275850_20180222093305_1.png

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📎 275850_20180222093322_1.png

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📎 275850_20180222093332_1.png

warm thistle Feb 22, 2018, 4:45 PM

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@lime mesa I have the same slow pop in from time to time, usually when using the buggy exocraft. Not entirely sure what causes it but it does bother me

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 6:16 PM

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To be honest,the fix RayRod said (about changing NumHigh and Low Threads settings from 1 to 10 have a little improvement,but it's very slightly. Also decreases FPS a lot.

junior furnace Feb 22, 2018, 6:32 PM

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I think you are trying to remove something that is basically an engine mechanic

lime mesa Feb 22, 2018, 6:39 PM

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perhaps ur right

random flint Feb 22, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Um, might be silly question... but, would a USB x-box 360 controller work for NMS, better than mouse/keyboard? I noticed Rayrod has a Ps4 controller handling thingy, in the \Optional Mods\ folder.

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Or, would it require a mod made specifically for the 360 controller?

inland sky Feb 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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it works fine

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I use an xbox 360 controller sometimes, though I mainly use mouse and keyboard

random flint Feb 22, 2018, 8:17 PM

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Okay. I was kinda curious, because controlling my ship's flight with the mouse is a bit... awkward/clunky feeling. Like, I move my mouse and then afterwards (1-3 sec) my ship responds and slowly changes to that direction.

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Is there any way to make it control like StarFox 64? Instant response to movement, without a delay.

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Mm. Seems googling my query shows a number of people with the same nitpicks about the delay.

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Oh, I see. It's the flight simulation thing; an attempt to be "realistic".

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So, I guess my last question is kinda what I asked above - Could someone please make a mod, to control ships like how a ship is controlled StarFox 64? I really don't enjoy simulated realism for controls on anything. I like the cartoony/videogamey instant response that games of old had.

inland sky Feb 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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try setting flight sensitivity higher

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I play with it on 100, and while it took a bit to get used to tethered, it can switch turn direction very fast

random flint Feb 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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Okay, I'll give that a try. Thank you. =)

inland sky Feb 22, 2018, 8:35 PM

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the farther away from the center the cursor is, the faster it moves

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put the cursor in the middle to stop turning

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at 100 the cursor moves almost as fast as in the menues

random flint Feb 22, 2018, 8:36 PM

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Yup, I didn't know what to call that, but tethering makes sense. It is mildly annoying, though... >.>

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Is there a way to make it not tethered?

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Like, just turn when I move?

inland sky Feb 22, 2018, 8:36 PM

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yes, locked mode, but for me that feels sooo slow

random flint Feb 22, 2018, 8:36 PM

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Oh

inland sky Feb 22, 2018, 8:37 PM

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like it doesnt respond very well to fast turns for some reason

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it worked much better right before they added tethered mode

smoky wing Feb 23, 2018, 3:29 AM

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I liked the better control of tethered, but just couldn't get used to the lack of instant/accurate recentering so I went back to the classic controls... If they added a key for that I'd definitely stick with tethered.

dreamy tulip Feb 23, 2018, 4:36 AM

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@random flint My ship handling mod does that. I specifically made it for my PS4 controller for that purpose. Try it out. 😃

random flint Feb 23, 2018, 4:37 AM

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Okay, I'll give it a shot in a bit. I was playing RuneScape when I asked about that. Thank you.

random flint Feb 23, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Um, when a custom mapped keybind is red, does that mean it didn't apply? When trying to remap the thrust to the right trigger, it remains red. It also won't let me reassign the break keybind at all.

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Er, I guess I should ask this in #no-mans-sky, since this doesn't relate to mods specifically. Sorry.

exotic violet Feb 24, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Rayrod im really digging your mod but I think it might have done something to the scanner, I've found a crashed freighter and im supposed to scan for buried lootboxes but when i press c nothing shows up

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 3:59 AM

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@exotic violet Hi

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Survival mode?

exotic violet Feb 24, 2018, 3:59 AM

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yeah

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 4:00 AM

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\Optional Mods\Rare+Unique Bug Hotfixes\Scanner Hotfix

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I need to find out why the scanner messes up in survival mode only

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But that should fix it for you in survival

random flint Feb 24, 2018, 4:01 AM

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Oh, that reminds me... I've been encountering a crash, when enabling 5 wanted stars on that cheat engine table. It only happens a few minutes after, and usually when in combat against the sentinels. I was having fun goofing around in creative with that bit.

exotic violet Feb 24, 2018, 4:02 AM

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thanks man

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Cheat engine can be really complex and if not careful, it will invoke a CTD

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As it's changing the executable memory

random flint Feb 24, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Mm.

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Okay.

exotic violet Feb 24, 2018, 4:02 AM

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is that something i put into the mod folder like a standalone?

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Yessir

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I'll take a look inside the CE table

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To see if there's any remainder of keyboard hotkeys getting invoked

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and turning on certain settings that might invoke a ctd randomly

random flint Feb 24, 2018, 4:04 AM

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Um, okay. I have a bunch of stuff enabled on that, but it only seems to crash when/if I do the wanted stars. So I kinda assumed it was the culprit. However, maybe it could be something else interacting weirdly with it? I'll try enabling it by itself, and seeing if I crash.

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Okay, it works fine by itself.

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I'll enable stuff one by one, until it crashes again.

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Found it.

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'Build anywhere'

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Crashed within a minute of enabling that whilst in combat with sentinels.

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It's in the Extra bit.

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Cool, thanks for the heads up

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yeah some can't be used together

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Apparently

random flint Feb 24, 2018, 4:31 AM

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It's being weird now, lol. I tried enabling just build anywhere and just wanted lvl 5. No crash yet. Before, I started enabling them one at a time, and had no pause, and all recipes unlocked. Right after I enabled build anywhere, that's when the above crash occurred. So, maybe it's a combination of a few?

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Okay, that's why. There's two Build anywhere options; I had a different one enabled both times. Just tried both alone, with just 5 stars. Only the top one under 'Unlocks' causes the crash. The one under 'Extras' does not.

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Is there any reason why one would cause it, and the other wouldn't?

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 5:36 AM

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If there's more than one, the other is redundant and I'll update the file

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Nice find

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It's likely an outdated one that I left behind awhile back

random flint Feb 24, 2018, 5:43 AM

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Oh, okay.

exotic violet Feb 24, 2018, 8:11 AM

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Does your mod take place in a different galaxy than Euclid? I noticed it says rayods galaxy whenever I jump into a new system

inland sky Feb 24, 2018, 8:16 AM

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Its just a rename of euclid, but the generation is very different anyway

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if it wasn't just a re-name then then you couldn't switch back and forth with a save

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 9:35 AM

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Must be using an old version

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What's the version on your file?

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It should say Euclid

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 10:07 AM

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@supple wadi

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It is semi hardcoded

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https://i.imgur.com/iHoNQ8n.png

Imgur

2018-02-24 - 05.07.45 ~ Cropped Capture

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Within the weapon HUD

supple wadi Feb 24, 2018, 10:44 AM

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Hm? The HUD name stuff? Yeah. I mean seemed pretty clear from our extensive tests.

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 11:38 AM

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Yeah

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Still working on it

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Stoian did his take on the left side (Looks beautiful and so much cleaner)... and I'm working on the right atm. He hasn't gotten around to the right yet. I'm configuring the game mechanics for the UI within the UI configuration. (Weapon info, width, colors, positioning, opacity, etc...) In the meantime, I just made a right HUD texture for testing.

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📎 275850_20180224064041_1.png

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I managed to get a little glass effect working too

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Noticeable on the right side

📎 275850_20180224063730_1.png

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Have been adjusting this stuff through the executable for the past 9 hours

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Alongside making the right HUD

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It's extremely tedious

lime mesa Feb 24, 2018, 11:42 AM

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You're doing God's work

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 11:47 AM

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📎 275850_20180224064639_1.png

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 12:31 PM

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Testing a custom critter Krem found on Sketchfab. Working on new creatures.
It's Dave 2.0 blob

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📎 275850_20180224072528_1.png

cyan oracle Feb 24, 2018, 12:50 PM

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🤣 Dave2.0

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I know it's not a plant, but whenever I look at it I hear: "Feed me Seymour!".. probably the mouth and all the teeth...

echo oxide Feb 24, 2018, 12:53 PM

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Delightfully devilish Seymour!

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 12:53 PM

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😂

lime mesa Feb 24, 2018, 1:28 PM

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RaYRoD

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Are you the same that RaYRoD TV guy,that makes these cool No Man's Sky mods,that are everywhere in the news?

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the overhaul

echo oxide Feb 24, 2018, 1:29 PM

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Yes, he is

lime mesa Feb 24, 2018, 1:30 PM

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Cool,I though he was an imposter

echo oxide Feb 24, 2018, 1:30 PM

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🤔

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:53 PM

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Hi

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I'm a shy guy who gets attention

echo oxide Feb 24, 2018, 1:56 PM

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📎 200px-ShyGuyCTTT_artwork.png

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 1:58 PM

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That's weird, I saw that image coming ahead of time xD

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I legit pictured you posting a "Shyguy" xD

echo oxide Feb 24, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Me specifically?

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😂

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Yes

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I felt like you would do that lol

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Before you did xD

lime mesa Feb 24, 2018, 2:35 PM

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If I use a sweetfx preset with RayRod overhaul,will there be any problems?

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Likely not, but there's a visual overhaul in there already

exotic violet Feb 24, 2018, 5:45 PM

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@dreamy tulip I have the v10-1.9.2 pak installed but i noticed it after i installed the scanner hotfix and the default exocrafts pak

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perhaps its one of those?

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 5:48 PM

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Here's a link to the latest public version

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gNVlxVnzz75YPpLC1_aBjLl_rTJ8cMnI

Google Docs

No Man's Sky - RaYRoD's Overhaul v10 (Beta).rar

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Nah, it's not one of those

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I gotta look into this, but I believe that's an outdated version you're on

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Since it doesn't say Euclid

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Hopefully the most recent public version helps

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Stiill working on the next update

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Major update

exotic violet Feb 24, 2018, 7:09 PM

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do i need to do anything or be anywhere particular to upgrade? will it mess with my save?

random flint Feb 24, 2018, 8:01 PM

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Hey, um.. do you use GLSL in your mod, @dreamy tulip? For the lighting and stuff. If so, it might be worth taking a poke around the shader files created by a player named Sonic Ether; he created some rather professional looking shaders using GLSL for MineCraft. It's called "SEUS - Sonic Ether's Unbelievable Shaders". They're under that public release licence thingy or whatever that files shared via GitHub have. So, completely open and free to modify/use.

I know the code is likely very different, but I assume it might still give you some ideas/inspiration? That is, if you haven't already surpassed him lol. He's been doing it since 2010, or 2011, so he's dedicated a lot of his time to it as well.

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This stuff:

📎 0T3fcVT.png

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I don't really know how any of it works, lol. Coding is like an alien language to me.

dreamy tulip Feb 24, 2018, 8:15 PM

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@Kaphraxus#9161 When I release the next version, bases will likely be messed up as the biomes and terrain will change. But for the better. It's recommended to save in a space station.

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@random flint I use GLSL in the mod, and I'm also familiar with SEUS for Minecraft. At-least using it... but I've never looked inside of their actual shaders. My GLSL knowledge is fairly limited, but I've managed to do a lot with what I've currently learned. My mod also uses some GLSL shader mods by a few friends as a base that I expanded on and made my own adjustments and added other things. Then there's a few glsl shader mods that I tailor made for the overhaul that aren't used elsewhere. I don't think I'll be able to do that at this time.