One thing to mention is that the background looks the same as the tweet from april 22.
#nms-spoilers
prime inlet
i wonder what will happen when it's a full, 4x4 grid.
rough copper
Yeah it's just a zoomed in and blurred version of the exomech pic from the previous one
timid mist
Yeah like I said before the blurred parts just use the adjacent pic and blur/offset it
severe sun
NMS: GekMilk
idle jay
They do that all the time with stuff
severe sun
Someone good with photoshop go make it happen
rough copper
Hopefully by then shit will get crazier the closer to the center you go lol
idle jay
That would be very nice
prime inlet
yeah, i can probably imagine all sorts of weird stuff that could happen, with galaxies, with differences between regions of space, different simulations, different outcomes, who knows what the 16th update will bring.
compact coyote
No mans sky : journey has a nice ring to it
severe sun
Some guy who's dad works at nintento said a future update would be called Genesis
so I think we can eliminate that as a potential name
mental socket
today was anniversart tweet
tomorrow could be teaser
12th could be surprise anniversary update as it was the release date for PC version. Then the game was available officially everywhere
nocturne zephyr
either that or the end of the weekend missions
and i don't necessarily think an update drop has to depend on when the missions end
idle jay
Yeah
rough copper
Oh yeah you guys were joking about them faking the weekend missions, but it actually happened before. I just can't remember exactly when since I don't actually play them lol. I just remember datamining some, then they turned out to be completely different.
idle jay
The weekend lore could go on, a big thing happens in an update, then the following lore shows the aftermath of that
rough copper
But a titled update came out and changed the dialogue and stuff in them.
nocturne zephyr
hmm interesting
either they were trying to throw us off or it just needed some editing
idle jay
I would like it to be the former
nocturne zephyr
but i can't remember when that happened
yes, would love if they were trying to trick us
tricky tricky
timid mist
The change could hav just been the insertion of the story related ones, as those were completely new
rough copper
Woah let's not get into that realm with HG, they would never ever deceive anybody.
idle jay
Also what Zoid said
timid mist
Cause the ones before didn't really have anything to "change" they were sorta just random tidbits.
idle jay
Because there were the boundary failure logs that are pretty much new
nocturne zephyr
those are exciting
are those in the game now btw?
or is it just datamined lore
i have no patience for those planets 😴
timid mist
So they're exciting but you aren't willing to experience them, nice
timid mist
More interesting than most other planets at least, not just grass and trees
I do wish the boundary failures had more use after you sap all the lore out of them though
nocturne zephyr
just goes back to the fact that it's the same stuff scattered across the whole planet the same way
so no point in exploring
timid mist
If it was arranged a different way there'd still be no point
nocturne zephyr
the boundary failures themselves are cool
idle jay
You can just go to one of those planets and read up on the lore real quick
nocturne zephyr
i gotta disagree tho.
there'd be more incentive to explore one of them if the planetary assets had varying densities and varieties across the entire planet
idle jay
Yep
timid mist
Not really. Cause you've seen them already.
idle jay
It would help just a little though
nocturne zephyr
for me, it would be more of an incentive.
idle jay
Obviously wouldn’t fix the issue but is a nice little thing
timid mist
But it would still be just ferrite dust but a different shape, in a cluster in a spot on the planet
I just feel like the layour of the planets matters much less than having interesting things to actually do on them
idle jay
Unfortunately 😞
timid mist
Exploring to see a hill is exciting like twice
Unless it's some massively strange land mass or terrain, and the closest we've gotten to that were the land snake things
Which in the old versions were everywhere and got old fast
nocturne zephyr
land in a barren zone, all around you you see nothing. you start walking and you start to see flora scattered about. you continue over a mountain, they appear larger, varied in color. keep walking, and you start to enter a denser section that's heavily forested
timid mist
Yeah but what is in that forest
nocturne zephyr
more forest
timid mist
It's just a cluster of the same props
So you would just never land on barren parts, you'd look for the interesting forest, so the planet would effectively be the same
timid mist
New fauna is a new topic though, I was talking about the exotic planets and the distribution of props
nocturne zephyr
it applies to them as well.
it's Hello Game's job to make exploration more engaging
timid mist
Like I know it's nitpicky but I just think there are a lot of things that need to be changed to introduce variety. It can't just be changing distribution of props or clustering them differently. That might help very slightly but after 2 planets you'll know what to expect just like old versions and the current version
nocturne zephyr
right now, exotics are not engaging.
timid mist
None of the planets are engaging because there is nothing to do
Exotics at least look more interesting.
rough copper
this guy has a lot of good ideas on how they could increase variety, just some random dude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Q_chMbcAE
nocturne zephyr
i hope you're not assuming that i think it's only a redistribution of props that will fix variety zoid
timid mist
I'm not assuming that, I'm just saying it's a problem that has a much larger solution than people probably think
idle jay
Tbh I would rather like to see planets be fun and engaging with lots of stuff to do on them than have an expansion on variety. Though this would likely be stuff that goes together in one update
Because what’s the point in having variety if the planets still feel shallow in terms of gameplay
timid mist
Like even looking at mods where people just essentially randomize the props and colors, I can tell it would be exactly as interesting as the current build aside from "oh exotic prop on regular planet, cool"
rough copper
For sure, but that's what the first 4 years of improvement have been lol
severe sun
For me, "variety update" doesn't mean just adding new things to do - it just means refining exisiting systems
rough copper
Variety doesn't just apply to props
timid mist
Yeah
rough copper
Like, all the descriptions of things when you scan them are just words
nocturne zephyr
i hope Grant watches his own GDC talk
timid mist
Lol
nocturne zephyr
i feel like he doesn't remember
timid mist
Seems kind of rude to say
severe sun
There are a lot of systems in the game, they're just all quite shallow
rough copper
if they meant something in game it would be infinitely better, making planets feel more distinct
ahaha yeah poor grant
idle jay
Wonder how he feels
rough copper
Well he still works there lol
idle jay
I know
timid mist
I honestly think the game will never hit this level of depth and variety that so many people really really want out of it and expect to just randomly happen at some point. I love the game but there are obviously systems that are heavily baked into the core of it that likely won't change, that would prevent the more engaging things people want all the time from happening, or at least from being as interesting as people might expect them to be
rough copper
I like to think him and Sean still want the same things procedural generation wise as they did before, but they couldn't prioritize it
idle jay
At least, they weren’t able to prioritize it for a while
timid mist
Desolation was a good step though. built a new system just for the derelict generation stuff
Interested to see if they expand that to other places
idle jay
That update gives me hope
rough copper
I have to disagree with you Zoid. No Man's Sky already includes two things added a couple years after release that a lot of people say are impossible to add to an existing game: VR, and MP. There's no reason they can't fulfil the rest of what they wanted out of this game, esp if they keep it going next gen.
idle jay
I still fee l like deep down they want to have their original vision become real. They just couldn’t yet for several reasons
timid mist
Those are features though, they aren't gameplay components that touch literally every system. I'm talking about things like the way they handle interactions, as an example
rough copper
I'm not talking about the impossible dreams of gamers, I'm talking about what HG said NMS would be.
timid mist
Every single interaction in the game freezes you and zooms in, aside from collecting resources. There are always minimal options in every single interaction you have, and the dialogue always just ends pretty much the same way regardless of what you choose, unless it has to do with purchasing something
rough copper
Every dialogue situation yeah, but to say every interaction freezes the game is just wrong lol. Mining something is interacting, so are scanning, walking, building, etc
timid mist
And every single thing in the game boils down to "sell this for units or turn it in for nanites". There's very little progression in late game, there's nothing to really do other than play derelicts because they're cool or search out lore points or whatever. Or look at cool planets
rough copper
What are you getting at?
timid mist
I'm talking sepcifically about interactions that include dialogue or anything to do with mission progress/interacting with a terminal
What I'm getting at is these have pretty much always been exactly the same, especially that over-arching loop of working to sell stuff or make currency. Those things have really not changed much except for adding more ways for you to get money.
rough copper
Yeah I'm pretty much okay with that to be honest
timid mist
It's like BOTW. THere are all these very fun shrines, but all you get from any of them is an orb. The same orb, every time. It's cool at first and then it starts to remind you of older games where you'd unlock upgrades or cool weapons.
rough copper
What I care about is them improving how the actual things interact inthe world, and are portrayed when you aren't in dialogue.
timid mist
And yeah, I'm okay with it too. I just don't think it necessarily lends itself well to these emergent systems people are expecting or wanting from the game
One thing i'd really love out of the game, which I know is basically impossible, would be to have some sort of "truly unique" thing that I could find.
rough copper
For clarity, what types of systems do you mean?
timid mist
Well one thing people want is interesting exploration. I think there's an upper limit for that, because they can add POI with more depth, but that depth will ultimately just be another "gather resource and sell later" cycle more or less.
If the POI has some new NPC, it'll boil down to "talk to guy and get thing to sell, or some nanites"
Unless they add another new feature, which people seem to get upset about saying things like "add more depth"
idle jay
That’s a good point
rough copper
Ah I get what you mean
Unless HG goes full Dwarf fortress with that stuff it wont be truly satisfying to some people 😛
timid mist
but I think they add new features because there is only so much depth you can add to a dialogue for learning a word, or talking to an NPC that's speaking to you to give you a basic puzzle
idle jay
I mean if they can’t do that then I would be satisfied if they just did a variation update
timid mist
Yeah, like I may have come off pretty harsh, but I really do love the game. I enjoy the loop and I love the visuals and all that.
rough copper
But I think that just doing what I said, and making it so everything you can scan actually matches what it says in the real gameplay world + Grant Duncan GDC talk proc gen would make the sandbox interesting enough for most people lol
plus deeper oceans/caves and higher mountains :p
idle jay
^
timid mist
But I just get worried that all the calls for variation will never really be satisfied no matter what they do, because it feels like there are just some core limits on how "deep" things can get
yeah for sure, but even if it matched I wonder how many people would care. Because all the depth in feeding animals is "gimme poop or let me ride"
rough copper
They just gotta keep making the universe feel less artifical and more like an actual universe with planets with different alien ecosysems... like HG said lol
severe sun
I don't think a gaming community has ever been satisfied by an update
rough copper
Yeah they even dumbed down feeding animals to ride them lol
at first it had to be a specific food now its just nom ride me
severe sun
Rimworld just had a good update, people are bitchin' cause a couple of mods broke
rough copper
like a cheap wh...blob
severe sun
People will always find something to complain about
timid mist
Yeah. I just truly think their focus is more on accessibility than difficulty or intense complexity
Perfect example
rough copper
Well I mean do you remember that inventory on release lol
rough copper
If they just left everything the same as release and focused immediately on variety, it would have been abig mistake lol
timid mist
For sure
rough copper
Haha yeah those are still in the game, make those at least procedural numbers each time 😛
timid mist
I don't think the way they changed things was a good idea either way, in terms of generation or colors etc, but I'm happy they are just broadening the scope of things to do.
idle jay
There was an idea passed around a couple of times that would be a bit in depth. It was the one where you wouldn’t be able to know all of the stuff on a planet by just scanning. You would have to research and find things out to unlock information about it and whatever is on there
Would add a gameplay loop that some would appreciate
timid mist
I think next large update I'll just start a completely new save and hack myself some quicksilver or something lol
severe sun
It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking discord is the community too - we're not, the game has sold millions of copies.
there aren't millions of people here
rough copper
ahaha yeah thats probably a good plan zoid
timid mist
See star that would be interesting only if it wasn't massively annoying
idle jay
Yeah
That’s the worrying part. If they were to implement it then it would possibly end up being a pain
timid mist
Because if they changed only that, but kept everything else the same, it's just "nice now I need to spend 10 minutes to find out if this is the planet I want" when you want to find a specific resource
One thing they could do to make me extremely happy is just let me manually land my ship lmao
rough copper
Yeah it needs to be functional and also worth it to the point that people are like yeah im a cool spaceman exploring the universe making real discoveries
timid mist
For sure
idle jay
Yep
timid mist
Like I wouldn't even mind if there were planets I couldn't land on, maybe I could deploy probes similar to how Mass Effect 2 worked, and they'd report back with resources
Would be a cool addition to make gathering gasses less of a PITA
rough copper
yeah that would be awesome
timid mist
Make it a frigate expedition even, if they want to keep things simple
rough copper
Just infinite potential with what they could do lol
timid mist
Yeah. I think that's why people feel unfulfilled
cause even though there is now factually a LOT of different things to do, it's such a massive game that you just want to fill every gap in between the things you're doing with something else
Used to be space, but that's full now
Now it's planets. When I'm looking for resources I want shit to happen to me, I don't want to be the only thing happening
crisp fern
If the POI has some new NPC, it'll boil down to "talk to guy and get thing to sell, or some nanites"
@timid mist this is why i've been so critical of how this changed tbh. It didn't have to but because they wanted to restructure progression to be more modern or just more structured or whatever, they threw most of it out in favor of get vendor trash, get tickets to exchange for prizes, and it's blaagh.
timid mist
Well it would have just been units if they didn't add nanites. That's sort of what I'm saying. There is nothing in the game that doesn't ultimately function as a frozen interaction or rigid sequence of events
timid mist
Eh I don't mind having the two, QS is basically optional as well
crisp fern
It's like when someone you know gets you a gift card, it's certainly appreciated but it's not the same as a specific thing as gift
timid mist
Well they would have to drastically expand upgrades and skills and stuff for any of that to be viable too
Like what good are infinitely repeatable missions that give you upgrades if you have all of the upgrades you need
The game isnt anywhere near hard enough to justify large bulks of upgrades either
rough copper
Maybe they will add a difficulty curve as you go towards the center taps head
crisp fern
I mean I'd be cool if we had more weird gizmos that let you interact with things/the world in different ways. Like the rocket boots are the sort of thing I'd love more of just to muck about in the world
timid mist
My pipe dream update, and ik its' not a functional change, but I'd love to just see them model every single item in the game in 3D. Nothing feels physical, it's all just little squares with icons on them. If I had a physical representation of what I was getting, like a chunky model of a gigantic laser, things would feel more tangible and interesting
crisp fern
There's also that
I don't care about the vast majority of the junk we collect because it's just icons
And also it literally has no function besides be used to craft something else or be sold
timid mist
Like even the proc gen loot you get, like the specimen jars or whatever, would be a million times more interesting if they had a model associated with them that I could rotate and peer at
crisp fern
Would love a dumb update like with cooking but for "inventing" where you try smashing together this stuff that up to now has been vendor trash
timid mist
Well see that last point is where I think ti won't ever change
crisp fern
With the odd chance of exploding in your face for the sheer silliness of it
timid mist
I think it will always just be at its core a survival crafting game, I don't think we'll get an update that provides some new way of interacting with items other than another feature that requires those items as some form of currency
idle jay
It would also be cool if combining those things would serve different functions
crisp fern
And if it did little more than act as an analysis grenade or poop speeder to make animals poop faster, hey cool, it's doing something
rough copper
That would be sweet, boltcaster mods that can make animals change behaviour
crisp fern
Like you smash together some weird junk and suddenly you can analyze everything in a radius and make the HUD explode sure why not
rough copper
shoot them, they start mating. Orgazmo!
crisp fern
Is it super useful, no, but it's interesting
timid mist
If I had the choice between something that sold for 200k units and a poop speed mod, I'd literally never make the poop speed thing lol
Like yes its interesting, but once
Which is everyone's complaint
crisp fern
I would totally make the poop speed grenade to make animals poop everywhere
because why the hell not
idle jay
But
crisp fern
Plus poop is used in some crafting stuff
idle jay
Said poop speed upgrade should stack
crisp fern
So it's basically a poop farming device
rough copper
Imagine planets where the animals are just pooping constantly, and need to keep eating, so its just like dead plants, and carnivores trying to eat everything as they poop
timid mist
What I'd love is another class/feature for multitools. Like a "Unique" class. Maybe they have some proc gen combinations of special weapon types, like a phase beam or a lightning arc emitter. And it was just a permanent attachment, and not something you can learn.
crisp fern
But seriously, I have zero interest in super basic +5% stuff most of the time, but am very into tech that does stuff like rocket boots or hell even the terrain manipulator, so more stuff in that vein is what i mean
timid mist
But they were extremely rare, or maybe you have to build them
timid mist
It bummed me out that no one liked the rocket boots lol, I love htem for indoor movement
the one place I can't melee boost
idle jay
So basically stuff that’s actually tangible rather than a number upgrade Leon
crisp fern
If cooking wasn't literally crafting by another name, or at the very least the foods had more weird/meaningful effects, I'd probably be more into that side of things
timid mist
but yeah let me find anomalous weapons or ships that have actually "unique" traits so when I find exotic ship #349509 it feels more like mine
idle jay
I never bothered with cooking except for one mission
crisp fern
Speaking of 3D models, how food doesn't have any, even a few, to place around bases is bonkers to me after they recognized so many restaurant bases
rough copper
Also all the reused icons for food
idle jay
🤷♂️
timid mist
I don't mind reused icons as much
Cause like, there are a lot of recipes lmao
I can cut them some slack there
idle jay
^
rough copper
well yeah, it's not like food matters at all anyways
timid mist
But even food is pretty underwhelming, aside from min maxers that craft shit to give to Cronus
I'm glad about that ultimately because fuck a hunger bar lol
crisp fern
you know all that cooking stuff was probably like the bytebeat, someone at HG's lil' project, but it's still weird af how it ended up
idle jay
Probably
crisp fern
like yay no hunger, but like...you could still have more interesting effects or something from eating...?
timid mist
Yeah it doesn't bother me cause it is never ever forced on you, it's a cutesy thing to have that I do like to poke into now and then, but there isnt much to it
rough copper
Yeah quite elaborate but for what lol
crisp fern
I mean I'd eat something that superboosted stamina to keep running longer
Or just restored it in a pinch
idle jay
I’m just grateful it’s not forced on you when there isn’t much behind it
timid mist
WEll that's another thing, what effects would there even be. I guess hazard protection extensions but you can also spend 3 minutes getting a permanent upgrade
rough copper
I think in tomorrows anniversary update we might understand everything that they were going for in all of the seemingly half or three quarter finished features they've added since release.
timid mist
Another thing is, the quick menu isn't so quick anymore lol
idle jay
I think in tomorrows anniversary update we might understand everything that they were going for in all of the seemingly half or three quarter finished features they've added since release.
@rough copper Would be the dream
rough copper
😄
crisp fern
Would also eat something if it made you jump higher occasionally
timid mist
We'll see, would love to at least get a development update or something
rough copper
jump? there is only jetpack.
idle jay
That’s likely what’s going to happen
timid mist
Actually one huge thing they could do that would maybe not require much work at all is just randomize/calculate a different gravity for every planet
rough copper
Eat food for extra fart verticality
timid mist
might be annoying on high grav planets where you can't jump high, but still interesting
crisp fern
eat food for different visual filters
idle jay
A dev update thanking us for supporting them all these years, talking about some stuff, then at the very end saying they have a big thing planned. Possibly giving a little teaser
timid mist
honestly I'd even be okay with being forced into the derelict "high gravity" mode on a planet if there was some incentive to push through
crisp fern
i'm still confused by the plants that do give ya a sort of jetpack boost, supposing they're still around anyway
idle jay
might be annoying on high grav planets where you can't jump high, but still interesting
@timid mist That’s where the boost upgrades would come in
rough copper
that would be hilarious if they had food you could eat that makes your character hallucinate in procedural ways
idle jay
Making them even more useful
rough copper
yeah the blue plants do
timid mist
lol could just have food add filters like what used to be possible
idle jay
Yeah those blue plants are still around Leon
timid mist
that is probably my most missed feature, being able to just play with a filter on
idle jay
They’re mostly just good for early game
timid mist
but it does make the filter exotics feel cooler
crisp fern
kinda suspect the reason they don't play with filters a little more is they still have glitches where they get stuck sometimes, even visor effects sometimes get stuck...
rough copper
No they have to go further! make it so trees look like sentinels, and textures can be replaced with computer code 😛
crisp fern
Filter exotics immediately put me off tbh
rough copper
Haha yeah I don't go to them
rough copper
except around you
timid mist
I like them, though I'd love if they added a bunch more types like what we have in photo mode
crisp fern
I'd enjoy them more, I think, w/o the filter and just their own silly color palette
rough copper
I wonder if they had to add some elements to the periodic table to get those filters working on the megaexotics
timid mist
lol what do you mean?
crisp fern
Like to me, if they want to keep color palettes constrained in the other biomes, so be it, then let exotic/weird planets be where they get bizarre with the colors
idle jay
The filters were an attempt for variation. I don’t think all mega exotics need filters. Have the chance for no filter
rough copper
to paraphrase SM, Grant duncan wanted skys to be able to be green, so they had to invent a new element in the periodic table that would appear in atmospheres so that the suns light would be filtered to be green 😛
crisp fern
When you already have a bunch of gray/drably colored planets, filter planets that take away what few other colors there are...Really aren't all that bizarre, at least to me.
timid mist
Yeah it might sound dumb but I think a good change would be to just have no "middle" types of planets. Like have htem be dull or kinda uninteresting a decent amount of the time (not super often) but have some that are just crazy looking now and then
rough copper
Yeah exotics are just a reduction in potential variety, one and done basically
timid mist
Eh I like the filter ones more than normal exotics because they both look cool and have normal stuff I can interact with on them lol
crisp fern
That just reminds me I wish exotic/weird planets had their own unique set of points of interest to them
Besides just boundary failures
rough copper
Yeah, like brothels, with unique aliens
timid mist
I wish holo terminuses only appeared on exotics
Cause they kinda look strangely out of place on regular planets
rough copper
I wish each holo terminus was a unique procedural climbing challenge
crisp fern
I wish holo-termini had more utility than just a story POI
rough copper
instead of the same annoying climb each time
timid mist
You can interact with them and get little weird communications
idle jay
My dream for variety in terms of color: utilize all the colors on the color scale and have different color palette types. Some dull, some vibrant, some a mix, some good, some a bad, etc
crisp fern
Yeah, but more than even that
Maybe have those sometimes unfold into mission prompts or something
Like rogue mission givers
timid mist
Yeah reminds me of a space POI I found today
crisp fern
Using holo-termini as a sort of "darkweb" comms method for different missions
rough copper
Imagine GPT-3 integration with NMS lol
idle jay
You don’t really even need to bother climbing those. It’s easy to just Jetpack up
timid mist
was one of these "signal interceptors" or someting. Talked about intercepting a rogue transmission. But it just says some stuff and then stops. I'd love if I could have gotten coords from it and found some NPC doing something illegal and confronted them
crisp fern
Yeah...I don't really know what's up with many of the new space POIs...I'm glad they're there, but several of them are still pretty 
rough copper
random number station lol
crisp fern
I feel like I'm either overthinking or underthinking them half the time
idle jay
A lot of them kind of just do nothing except look nice
rough copper
yeah seems placeholderish 😛
timid mist
Like I know they have to stop working on the game eventually, and it sorta feels like it's culmination on something final in the next year. but If they do continue on it for a much longer period of time I'd love to see them take a broad sweep over every POI and just add like 2 layers of depth
rough copper
like the derelicts are still there but we have ones we can explore
timid mist
They don't all have to be derelict depth, but something other than eye candy
crisp fern
i mean honestly, derelict depth is still pretty limited, so to some degree i'd be into more of that...
rough copper
IDK, putting crossplay makes it feel like we aren't even halfway through the games lifespan lol
timid mist
The old derelicts are still kinda cool cause they have cargo pods you can break and get resources from, thankfully
idle jay
That’s the kind of stuff I’d want to keep me engaged
timid mist
I mean the actual work behind making the derelicts work was not limited. I'm just saying I don't expect them to create a new system for every POI
idle jay
Yeah
crisp fern
reminds me, i threw over a suggestion to HG to make repair kits a possible find around crashed ships/freighters...Shoulda mentioned non-dungeon derelicts as well
timid mist
And I'd say it's limite dbut in about the same way other games have limited systems, which is less limited than NMS stuff usually is
So it was refreshing in that sense
crisp fern
Oh yeah I wouldn't expect a new system for every POI, but say, reusing the groundwork laid by what they did with derelicts would be p. interesting
timid mist
For sure, on some of them
Like the space POI that's like "exiled city" or someting
Just a floating orb with a shield that apparently contains a city
Like, maybe let me in homie
rough copper
Yeah or if those creature pod things had local creatures instead of the same ones each time
timid mist
gimmme some procedural space station city I can goof around in
crisp fern
i'm still super weirded out by the lost colony pods not even letting us communicate with them
like wtf's going on in there, you need food or somethin'?
timid mist
Well they sort of seem to be locked up on purpose
It might be canonically a simulation or something
crisp fern
sorta, but it also sometimes seems like they could use help
timid mist
Or just storage of lifeforms, and not actually a city
crisp fern
and i'm like lemme talk and figure out how
idle jay
Something that would be cool is if they did the procedural room thing for more stuff. Like having procedural abandoned stations. Or even procedural rooms for current space stations that you would access from the doors you see
crisp fern
i mean they do have those
idle jay
Having things you can interact with and stuff
crisp fern
i know not in the way you mean, but
idle jay
Yeah
timid mist
Honestly I want them to swap out current freight internals for the derelict layout. The derelicts feel more natural for some reason.
timid mist
Or just give me some crew that vibes around my freighter. Why am I the only one that dares go in the backroom lol
idle jay
Ikr
crisp fern
wait like hangar or base area backroom?
idle jay
You only ever see the crew in the main deck
timid mist
Base area
crisp fern
well that's 'cause how do u path for custom area, i'd imagine
timid mist
Like bro I set up all these tables for you
idle jay
Have them walk around and do stuff at least. Make it feel more lively
crisp fern
but would be cool, for sure
although now that they have stuff movin' about derelict freighters maybe that'd be more viable than before
timid mist
yeah though those guys can literally walk on any surface so their pathing is just "go"
crisp fern
lol
timid mist
I wanna see NPCs exploring though
Also I want the ones on foot to be hostile sometimes
idle jay
They are still able to navigate those procedural rooms towards you however
timid mist
Why are there only pirates in space
crisp fern
There are traders too
Not just the space encounter ones either
Or there used to be anyway, I haven't checked lately
timid mist
oh ik, I was saying more like, why are there no pirates on planets
crisp fern
ooohh, gotcha
timid mist
Maybe some crashed ships could be ambushes
idle jay
You’d think there would be NPCs traveling around but it’s either them flying or at a station/outpost
timid mist
Actually, you knwow hat would be an amazing addition, at least for me
nocturne zephyr
same
timid mist
Give me realtime subtitles for ambient conversations, with only translated words
nocturne zephyr
as long as they have plenty of interaction types
crisp fern
||dating sim element for aliens||
idle jay
That’s the kind of thing I would love to see Zoid
timid mist
That would help with adding more emergent gameplay too, because if they do add pirates or ambushes or whatever, it'll be a "haha i've betrayed you, but also I'm going to wait for you to exit this dialogue for anything to happen!"
idle jay
Possibly make them procedural and stuff
timid mist
Like it feels very much like I'm moving from step 2 to step 3 most of the time
idle jay
I want everything to feel more alive
crisp fern
Can't you ignore the hails in space and they'll just go ahead and jump you? lol
obvs wouldn't work on-foot so ambient chatter would be far better
crisp fern
but it would be kinda hilarious to have them right by a hill hit up your communicator
timid mist
Doesn't have to necessarily match the audio since they don't speak a real language anyways
crisp fern
and be like, "GIMME UR STUFF OR I ATTACK"
and u're like, "Dude i see you're a wimp right over there"
idle jay
I see NPCs at stations and it looks like they are having interesting conversations but you never know what they are saying
timid mist
yeah or you just hear grunting and see along the bottom of your visor "jksdlfkjsdkf STOP slkdfjlksdjflksjdf jdsfjkdlsj dfkjslkdfj KILL INTERLOPER slkdfjlksjdfk" and then you start getting fired at
crisp fern
be even funnier to have opportunities to save them from local predatory fauna
timid mist
instead of "stop what you're doing to freeze the game and read a dialogue box about how I'm gonna kill you"
idle jay
Like I see one NPC with their head slightly in the direction to another beside them. Talking and occasionally pointing at things
nocturne zephyr
what if you could see npcs interacting with fauna and riding them
nocturne zephyr
yes
timid mist
ik it's harder but even like 10% of what we can do, the basic stuff like mining and scanning
nocturne zephyr
find an npc doing that one 'why God?' animation in a desert
you give them some geknip
timid mist
they drug you and you wake up in an abandoned building surrounded by hatched eggs
nocturne zephyr
omg
idle jay
Imagine going to a Gek outpost. You go in and see that it’s all foggy inside. Then you realize it’s a group of them just smoking geknip, looking dazed
nocturne zephyr
amazing
timid mist
lemme find a building with some dead bois
nocturne zephyr
a drunk gek on a roof
timid mist
naked
idle jay
Then one of them might ask if you want some. If you agree then you just chill there for a bit, with the chance to blackout and you’d wake up lying around somewhere within 100-1000u of the outpost
timid mist
well I'm gonna hop off, nice talking. @nocturne zephyr sorry for being a jerk earlier, i should respect my creator more or I might need another bandaid for the other buttcheek.
idle jay
I’d imagine if a Vy’keen were to smoke some then they would think they could take on a walker with just their fists but then just get destroyed. Though that’s probably something they would try anyway lol
nocturne zephyr
Lol all good Zoid have a good night
idle jay
Goodnight Zoid
crisp fern
even just imagine going on a secondary mission to hunt fauna or gather something, but along the way you meet an alien associated with the organization hiring you, or someone else that's taken up the mission, and you get some extra context for why they're having you do this, and/or help you out in some way
nocturne zephyr
ha... seems like a merging of nms and gta
timid mist
before i sleep - add the creature ragdoll physics to NPCs and let me launch them
gnite
nocturne zephyr
Discord is being screwy
idle jay
Discord is always screwy
crisp fern
I’d imagine if a Vy’keen were to smoke some then they would think they could take on a walker with just their fists but then just get destroyed. Though that’s probably something they would try anyway lol
@idle jay see, vy'keen have their own drug of choice tho, grahgrah
so imagine them inhaling some of that and then just fucking RAGING against Sentinels
timid mist
also here's my homie that will tuck me in tonight
idle jay
Yep lol
crisp fern
nice
nocturne zephyr
slimy goodnight kiss
idle jay
And then I’d imagine Korvax would have something like robots from Futurama do
nocturne zephyr
i'd love to see an angry Vykeen just running across a planet and destroying everything in its path
idle jay
That would be amusing
nocturne zephyr
but yeah, i feel they've been making small steps towards more complex npc behavior
idle jay
Tbh if there was an entire big update that focused on increasing NPC interactions/behaviors/encounters along with other things to make it feel immersive and alive then I’d be good with that
crisp fern
vy'keen with head poking out of an exocraft roamer shouting as they blast away at Sentinels
idle jay
^ See that would be awesome
nocturne zephyr
how would that work since we just 'phase' out of vehicles
it would just be their floating head and arm
timid mist
I don't think that would work, but I'm okay with them at least chasing me in a rover lol
Also I'm pooping not sleeping
idle jay
I’d imagine that would be something they could do if you have a low standing with them
Btw standings should have more things to it
crisp fern
zug it would be a custom model just for goofs
like seeing a vy'keen shouting as they drive and blast stuff
idle jay
Seeing a group of Vy’keen driving across with pilgrims. Essentially biker gangs
nocturne zephyr
ah man
gloomy echo
Attacks on our bases would be cool, different factions could attack us if we get a low enough standing with them.
nocturne zephyr
i'd let them destroy my base tbh
crisp fern
anger the sentinels enough and they join in on the assault
gloomy echo
A group of vykeen bikers harassing your base because you keep blasting freighters in vykeen systems.
idle jay
If you are at a low standing with a race it doesn’t really affect you at all
nocturne zephyr
would be hilarious if a race actively tried running you down with vehicles because you had a low standing
just like, land on a planet, you hear an exocraft in the distance
BONK
idle jay
They could also place bounties on your head if they hate you enough
gloomy echo
I'd really like to see a roving infestation across the galaxy map, turning planets into infested planets with roving packs of horrors and other Xeno's. And if your base planet gets caught in it, Zerg base assault time.
nocturne zephyr
bounties between players and npcs would be great. but we'd have to be able to opt out.
crisp fern
you say bases bad, suddenly bunch of folks put a ton of bounties on ur head, lmao
nocturne zephyr
that reminds me of Warframe, Cpt
gloomy echo
I think the horrors and Xeno creatures should be expanded greatly.
It's a missed opportunity to add in a good antagonist faction I feel.
nocturne zephyr
bases BAD! come kill me!
idle jay
Would also be cool to have a set of buildings/POIs exclusive to each race that can only be found in those systems
nocturne zephyr
bio horrors have a lot of potential
idle jay
A lot of cool stuff could be done with bio horrors
nocturne zephyr
Star and Leon already saw this, but here's what i think
gloomy echo
Yeah, maybe the infested frigates are the beginning of something to come.
Maybe the bio horrors on the frigates are like the face huggers, the first sign, the harbingers of things to come.
And kinda like the tyranids from 40k, they are coming from the void, the empty spaces between galaxies.
nocturne zephyr
yep
they could introduced a larger, older more dangerous bio to derelicts
that sometimes spawns
not ALWAYS
sometimes.
gloomy echo
I'd like to see the dead planets idea expanded too like you said. Those could be planets that had all life completely consumed by the horrors, leaving only them left.
idle jay
Yep. They wouldn’t even need to all be airless planets. Sometimes having atmosphere planets but just devoid of all life except the bio horrors
crisp fern
Star and Leon already saw this, but here's what i think
@nocturne zephyr with the way derelict freighters operate, having a chance either around abandoned buildings or just around eggs on dead planets, to have a chance for too much movement to stir them up would be cool too tbh
gloomy echo
Or even regular planets with natural fauna on them and packs of horrors chasing things down and consuming them lol
Planets in the process of consumption
crisp fern
dead planets should have some points of interest restored in charted & abandoned star systems. The points of interest were initially removed because we didn't have uncharted star systems.
Now that we do, they can change them back for both charted & abandoned star systems
nocturne zephyr
hmm yes
gloomy echo
I also heard they had actual planet rotation way way back in the day during development
crisp fern
so, e.g. crashed ships/freighters, abandoned buildings, ruins, fossils & scrap (supposing those can't already appear there)
idle jay
You’d expect to see wrecked freighters/buildings etc in abandoned systems
crisp fern
Mhm
nocturne zephyr
would make some sense
crisp fern
And hell even in charted star systems
idle jay
It’s in the name. Abandoned
crisp fern
Like I said, the main reason they seem to have removed points of interest from dead planets was to fulfill requests for planets without aliens, but now uncharted star systems as well as abandoned star systems go above & beyond for that request
gloomy echo
I know people keep asking for cities.
And I know that would break lore because the sentinels vaped all the cities eons ago.
So what about ruined cities.....
Could be a good POI for dead planets.
nocturne zephyr
i'm cool with that as long as they aren't all the same cookie-cutter structures and supplement exploration
anything that supplements exploration
and yeah Leon, would be great if they had a new set of interesting waypoints for uncharted/abandoned systems
gloomy echo
I'd hope an ass ton of prefeabs that could fit together in many ways would be made and then the PrcGen engine allowed to randomize them all.
nocturne zephyr
yes please. i'm hoping they stick the the formula they used for Desolation
gloomy echo
Also multiple sets of prefab dedicated to the main three species type
crisp fern
For uncharted star systems I think it'd be killer to have natural points of interest to come across
crisp fern
Like natural formations and such to investigate, yeah
nocturne zephyr
👌
gloomy echo
Giant volcanoes, gorges, rivers....... lol
crisp fern
people want waterfalls, but water physics are hard, so make a nice little natural point of interest spring/waterfall
gloomy echo
I did say rivers, yes I did lol
nocturne zephyr
i really think they can just use particle effects for waterfalls
even varied height and width
gloomy echo
Water really does need an update.
crisp fern
Getting it to fit along the proc-gen terrain would be a pain in the ass tho i imagine, so next best thing to my mind is a POI
idle jay
There are ways to work around certain limitations. Such as the waterfall thing like Leon said
crisp fern
Have a big glacier POI on frozen planets that you have to melt your way into and find whatever
gloomy echo
I just wanna look out across the ocean and see a flat horizon. Lol
Water falls n shit sound nice but honestly I just want a flat horizon lol
nocturne zephyr
same
crisp fern
like the whole purpose of POIs is to give them a curated space to work in stuff that getting the proc-gen to do can be too troublesome
idle jay
I just want to look at water and have the chance to see liquid that doesn’t look like thick paint
nocturne zephyr
that would solve an issue, though I hope it wouldn't make those POIs too repetitive
crisp fern
would be wild to come across a natural spring on a lush planet that's spouting water and clear streams coursing over a rocky surface
Right, there's a balance ya have to strike with them, where the POI is curated but still proc-gen in its own right to avoid obvious repetition
idle jay
That would also would also work for desert planets. Having a small chance to come across an oasis
nocturne zephyr
😩
gloomy echo
But I'd want to use that spring for something too. Like we would need a new power buildable that would allow me to use the power of the geyser to energize my sphere creater and pocket dimension projector lol
crisp fern
Well, see...That's the thing though...In my head these natural points of interest would only appear in uncharted star systems...Implying charted & abandoned star systems have had theirs destroyed by the inhabitants' carelessness, lending some reason to the Sentinels' behavior
nocturne zephyr
ah gotcha
crisp fern
also it just gives a stronger reason to visit and explore uncharted star systems
because there's something unique there that can't be found in other types of star systems
nocturne zephyr
abandoned ones should have npc skeletons
korvax heads, wires strewn across the dirt
gloomy echo
What if they added in factions, and the uncharted empty systems became the only systems factions could claim and build in.
That would give a reason to visit them, faction warfare!!!! Lol
nocturne zephyr
derelict that has crash landed on planet
crisp fern
ugggh that's all anyone wants to do with the uncharted/abandoned star systems is claim/reclaim & colonize/rebuild them...
gloomy echo
Jokes aside, crashed freighters really need to be brought in line with derelict freighters.
Like dont remove the cargo containers, but give us an interior to explore with planetary dangers inside, unique from the space derelicts and possible determined by the planet type.
idle jay
Yes
gloomy echo
I still wanna put my big faction all in that empty system, fill it all up with my faction I will..... lol
gloomy echo
I hope so, I really like the biohorrors as antagonists.
I want to see more of them. And the idea of more "dungeon esq" loot to plunder is always welcome.
gloomy echo
Yeah, the abyss, I've been pondering that for sure.
It's clearly meant to be the antithesis of the atlas.
Abyss/Atlas.
Its foil.
nocturne zephyr
if it's loot for the sake of looting/making money, i don't really care
we're gettin' close, soon we will know
gloomy echo
I agree, give the looting some meaning and story, even if its procedural like the frigates
idle jay
More procedural story stuff pls thx
gloomy echo
I like the frigate lore.
Some of it is actually spooky when it lines up right, and other times is nice and cooky lol
crisp fern
i hate how it's delivered insofar as IDLE MECHANICS
gloomy echo
I agree with that
I'd actually like to find the remains of crew hiding in the lockers atleast when the pamphlets talk about it lol
nocturne zephyr
pls
crisp fern
i don't do them because the only active gameplay with them ends up being reading their logs, repairing if needed (and their deck collision SUCKS even now), refueling, and collecting rewards.
it's like handling your starship but you never get to use it, just send it off
oh wait
gloomy echo
Like instead of just auto giving me what's inside, jumps scare me with a faux storage box that has a skeleton that pops out all Indiana Jones style lol
crisp fern
i don't mind too much how the derelict freighter lore is delivered, tho i do find it awkward not to find crew bodies
open canyon
all devoured
nocturne zephyr
dead and live npcs would improve them a ton
we have helmets/gloves floating about
nocturne zephyr
stuffed in a locker
gloomy echo
Yea clearly we see the medical beds where they were experimenting with their own crew.
So what happens there?
Where is the head crab crew?
idle jay
More Dead Space elements for derelict freighters would be much appreciated
gloomy echo
I feel like HG has realized their player base is mostly adults and young adults and has now taken a more darker tone with the lore and enemies.
The frigates really have a much darker tone then any other part of the game.
nocturne zephyr
could be
gloomy echo
The horrors on planets seem like cartoon dark though
The new horrors, much better.
Even the weekend mission lore has gotten pretty dark.
open canyon
I was monolith hopping the other day, and some were downright gruesome, and I wouldnt call myself sensitive
decapitations, dismemberments, gore, torture
karmic coyote
TBH I could go for just literally cthulu
sweet hinge
i think im at end game nms
ive done all the missions and im ready to get a s class capital shi[
ship*
whats the best way to farm for moneys?
i only have 85mil atm
karmic coyote
activated indium deep deposit
I got a non optimized one and it makes 5 million units per hour
Optimized I could easily get it making 10 times that
And it even works with the game off\
So when I get on, I grab it all, sell it for my 40 million units then go do other things
mental leaf
anyone playing on ps4 that will let me join their game to get some di-hydrogen
i'm stranded yo
sweet hinge
sorry mate, im on pc
sweet hinge
i know i can play with ps4 players but the messages are black boxes lol
idle jay
That's weird. The messages just showing black instead of regular text?
idle jay
Hmm. Unfortunately I don't have the knowledge to help on that one
Is it the chat feature when you're in multiplayer or?
idle jay
Ahh
sweet hinge
hold on, i just found an activated indium planet with little sentinals lol
idle jay
I think with the kind of thing though you and the other person are trying to do you wouldn't need to use that
sand karma
Do you we know what the build 5384364 that was pushed to experimental 22 hours ago contains?
If anything
solid cliff
Fix the object that was blocking hallway in derelict
sand karma
Oh I thought they'd already done that, but still a very necessary fix, thanks! 😄
solid cliff
Yeah there was a fix about that but apparently that didn't work as they expected
sand karma
I've been lucky enough to never encounter it myself, but it is definitely a annoying one from all the posts and screenies I've seen about it :3
craggy sluice
Fix the object that was blocking hallway in derelict
@solid cliff does this include invisible barriers?
craggy sluice
I've encountered about 1 or 2 derelicts so far with this issue
solid cliff
They take their time to fix all game-breaking bugs on derelict i suppose
sand karma
There are more bugs? I've literally never run into any trouble on them and was singing their praises for it. 😄
solid cliff
Well some people try to break the limits of the games to find bugs kek
sand karma
Fair 😄
craggy sluice
That spinning microwave thing that suddenly disappears and reappears. I don't know if it's a bug or a feature but it's creepy and sometimes blocking corridors
mental socket
news today?
sand karma
Just as likely as getting news on any other day with this game I guess 😄
craggy sluice
That specific bug that they fixed it
@solid cliff that's good news 😀
mighty rampart
underwater abandoned stations are the same as land ones, right?
lore spouting wise
craggy sluice
Hmm the last time I did underwater abandoned stations is during the Dreams of the Deep questline so I'm not sure. But it seems different
velvet light
Yo
Who’s done the starbirth side quest?
I need help
I’m at the large ring shaped artifact what do I do next?
How do I interact with it?
gloomy isle
So like if we were to somehow die permanently, could telamon our suit and just kinda puppeteer us?
open canyon
the ring shaped artifacts should have a terminal on the thicker side
mental socket
just checking on the HG employees and saw something interesting
This reply seems quite intriquing
mighty rampart
he is working on other games too
mental socket
Ah, understandable
mighty rampart
like a solitaire game one of his dev buddies made
mental socket
it was under the chain of tweets about NMS tho
mighty rampart
yeah so there is a possibility he just meant that also
or that we might get new effect sounds as that's his meatier work in the game
holy shit he just posted a bunch of games he's worked on, awesome
oh that comment you shared is in this tweet itself lmao
uncut harness
nocturne zephyr
Sohail and Paul best frans
timid mist
Yeah that comment seems like he's saying "yes but not in NMS" lol
my guess is TLC stuff maybe
nocturne zephyr
Prolly
timid mist
im pretty sure he replied to someone with a pic of TLC when they asked if he added music to desolation or a previous update
gloomy isle
Tbh I think releasing a NMS update around the last campfire wouldn't really be considerate to the people who made TLC haha
timid mist
They're sort of different audiences, and a lot of the NMS fanbase would want to support HG anyways
But I get what you mean.
nocturne zephyr
Plus TLC will be one of those 'sit and play the whole way through' type games
We can play both easily
timid mist
yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to it
idle jay
For all we know Paul could also be working on stuff for the unannounced game
nocturne zephyr
Oh he definitely is
idle jay
Also yeah I’m pretty ready for tears to flow if I were to play the game. Feels like it’s going to have some sad moments
TLC I mean
nocturne zephyr
It's a rare occasion when a game can draw a tear from me
idle jay
I don’t think I’ve had that happen yet because I keep spoiling it for myself on accident. So then I end up knowing what happens at certain parts if I start playing
I’ve gotten plenty of goosebump moments though. That was always fun
nocturne zephyr
Yes goosebumps definitely more common
chrome ice
I have a feeling we wont be getting any news on any sort of update for quite some time. Personally I think they just wanted to recognize 4 years and hint at something coming later in the year. It just wouldnt make sense for them to release another update with Desolation just having been released
nocturne zephyr
They release their updates 'when they're ready'
And depending on how they assign team members to certain features, another group of features being worked on by other HG devs may be near
timid mist
yeah a few of the dev updates have hinted at separate teams, makes me wonder how many people work there and how the teams are divided
nocturne zephyr
And how many are moving off to the new one
timid mist
i don't think it's old vs new, more like focuses
nocturne zephyr
I mean new game
Been over a year now since Sean mentioned they were in the early stages of conceptualizing their new ambitious game, so they must be moving a few employees over to it
timid mist
Either that or just hiring on for the new game
timid mist
People aren't usually on one project too, so I'd imagine there's a lot of splitting time
nocturne zephyr
Yuh
quiet edge
New to the new NMS story and don't want too many spoilers, what are the consequences of following the Atlas path? Will I not be able to continue the Artemis story?
timid mist
No consequences, go ahead and do both
Though you can kinda do both at the same time, helps for some parts
quiet edge
Awesome thanks
compact coyote
sean retweeted more stuff , nothing else new though
timid mist
yeah was a few hours ago
mighty rampart
Twitter
woah he retweeted this! notice the "beyond all recognition" in this message, and also the "long time to come", Beyond was the name of the 2.0 update and it was quite recognized as a big update, and it has been a long time since the update, thus I can conclude Sean is hinting at a variety update!!
and it will have a long journey's worth of content!!!1!!11
nocturne zephyr
Sarcasm detected
timid mist
Don't know if you noticed this, but GOG has 3 letters. G is the first, O is the second, and another G is the third. In conclusion I believe we will get 3.0 update
nocturne zephyr
3
timid mist
2
trail relic
1
timid mist
0
trail relic
-1
timid mist
-2
trail relic
-3
uncut harness
-3️⃣
timid mist
-🅱️
nocturne zephyr
_👨🚒
uncut harness
-🇱
compact coyote
im REALLY thinking its gonna be called No mans Sky: Journey.
timid mist
maybe
compact coyote
so many things hinting to it
uncut harness
||It's gonna be NMS 2.7, and it will have pets in it.||
timid mist
could also be called no mans sky pancake batter
timid mist
also you could pretty much come up with any generic word like genesis, revolution, journey, horizon, etc, and find "hints"
compact coyote
probably more stuff than just pets
uncut harness
The glyph hunt made it clear the name will be || Spermalist ||
nocturne zephyr
I Don't really Care about pets, but I kind of hope they really focus in on specific features depending on the update from now on
Instead of focusing on a bunch of different features for one update
compact coyote
variety update is what everyones thinking
uncut harness
For me it's either variation or building on top of already existing mechanics
timid mist
I think the issue witht hat is sometimes you need to change a lot for one feature and that can span across many features
uncut harness
I'd be ok with more Desolation-style updates
I wouldn't be ok with another tackled on cooking system
brave thunder
is there any reason to reset the simulation in the atlas mission
i know it generates a new galaxy but is there any reason for that really?
prime inlet
if you don't feel like going right now, there's always ways of getting to other galaxies later.
brave thunder
but what is the purpose of getting to other galaxies
timid mist
Different spawn rates for certain planet types
but you can see all planet types in Euclid
brave thunder
oh ok
doesnt really sound all that impressive
i guess you can still warp back to euclid with the stargates right
ive seen these remembrance things that i cant use, will i be able to use them after this or is that a separate mission
timid mist
with the base/station teleporters you can get back to old bases
and the rememberance thing just gives you access to some extra lore at certain terminals, but also functions as a shield upgrade
brave thunder
how can i get them tho
i dont have the thing i need for it
i think its from a mission
timid mist
For rememberance?
timid mist
There's a long line of atlas seeds you need to craft that eventually lead to rememberance
you get the blueprint from the missions
brave thunder
oh ok
will that be interrupted if i reset the galaxy ?
because i starte that quest line but didnt finish it
its actually kind of weird since they are both quest lines related to the atlas
timid mist
Well it's a part of the Artemis quest line, not the Atlas station one
brave thunder
but seem completely separate from each other
oh really?
isnt the artemis the one with the reset universe tho ?
timid mist
But you need to do them in tandem to get all of the recipes required to build rememberance
Yeah, the Atlas line just eventually reveals all the black holes int he galaxy map for you
also I was wrong, it's not a shield upgrade it's a health upgrade
brave thunder
oh ok
so if i have a base in a new galaxy and in euclid i can just switch between them whenever right
via the stargates
timid mist
Pretty sure yeah, though it's not via portals. It would be via the teleporters on space stations or at your base
I know it used to not allow it but I remember them adding it in to a recent update
brave thunder
oh yea thats what i meant the personal ones
oh it used to not allow warping between the galaxies ?
do u get any new quests in the new galaxy
like do npcs react like oh we just made a new galaxy or something like that ?
timid mist
Nah it's pretty much exactly the same, just different rate of spawns
It really isn't worth it honestly, not in its current state, Just vibe in Euclid
brave thunder
oh ok a bit lame
timid mist
Unless you wanna build a base in a bunch of galaxies or something
brave thunder
ok thanks for the info
mental socket
so that was all the tweets for today?
mighty rampart
the day isnt over yet, anything can happen
brave thunder
what are u talking about
timid mist
Nothing really, don't worry about it
Sean retweeted some praises for the game around the anniversary
brave thunder
oh did people think there would be some special reveal or something
willow stirrup
Friday marks 1 year since Beyond came out, so it's not an unreasonable thought
timid mist
I do sort of expect at least the experimental to hit public, but I don't see us getting anything honestly
Not upset if I'm wrong but I just don't see it
idle jay
Your right. I just don’t think any reveal is happening within the next few days
mental socket
@mighty rampart Well isn't it quite late in britain? Has Sean ever announced anything past working hours?
idle jay
At most it would be what Zoid said or a dev log with a mention about how they are working on something
nocturne zephyr
Free fireworks for a week
timid mist
It's 6PM in the UK right now, not extremely late. I believe he's announced or done stuff later than that. But yeah I wouldn't expect it lol
willow stirrup
There hasn't been an internal update other than the most recent experimental fix either. Internal will update without Experimental sometime before we see an update announcement
timid mist
well that's if they announce it at the same time as it launches, which isn't always the case.
willow stirrup
There's typically an internal update within a day of the launch anyway, though
nocturne zephyr
This is going to be a tough week. Most likely a tough month
timid mist
guess it depends on how you cope with excitement lol
idle jay
I definitely feel there is going to be something soon. Within the next few weeks
Just something this month NMS related
compact coyote
yeah, somethings gonna happeen soon. seans acting sus again
nocturne zephyr
constant anticipation
feels good to get my mind off of it all
it's the most exciting when it happens while your attention is elsewhere
timid mist
yeah for sure
compact coyote
retweeting stuff. Yup sean is hiding something
timid mist
usually happens while I'm working lol
compact coyote
and yeah agreed
timid mist
wow I watched you level up right before my eyes
compact coyote
who?
nocturne zephyr
u
compact coyote
ohh awesome lol
uncut harness
congrats Alex
idle jay
I’m just going to end up coming home from work one day only to find out there was a reveal on a big update and the entire server would be losing their shit the entire day
nocturne zephyr
it's nice when it happens that way
idle jay
Yep
idle jay
A nice surprise to end the day off
compact coyote
we gotta have a discord reaction to the alleged update trailer if it comes out. like we did with next
idle jay
Depends on what it is
uncut harness
"oh shit there are two mechs now"
glass flare
I don't think there's anything happening. HG would have already been teasing stuff if they were leading up to an anniversary update
uncut harness
Bake cake with mech framethrower
nocturne zephyr
that's what it's for
idle jay
Yeah I doubt an anniversary update will happen. Just info
Even then that’s only possibly
uncut harness
Announcing the variety update, coming summer 2022.
vocal shoal
I wouldn't mind that lol
uncut harness
Happiness, but also sadness.
compact coyote
anniversary update is possible. probably would come out in september though
glass flare
"only on next gen systems"
glass flare
they absolutely will at some point
idle jay
Of course they will
glass flare
they are severely constrained by base PS4 and Xbox right now
idle jay
But I heavily doubt it will happen the moment next gen comes out. That would be dumb
Not everyone is going to have next gen at first or for a while
glass flare
well in your hypothetical 2022 scenario, that's not the moment, PS5 comes out this year :)
uncut harness
Hello adamb
severe sun
Dunno if I'd say its constrained... the game does degrade fairly gracefully
idle jay
That is King’s hypothetical scenario silly
compact coyote
the 2022 update would be a nice high school gaduation gift lmao
idle jay
I’d say if they did announce a variation update then it would be for this year
glass flare
adamb -- you must not play the game on a standard PS4. it has absolutely terrible performance since Beyond
idle jay
They wouldn’t just announce a big update and release it 2 years from now. It would cause huge turmoil
glass flare
pop in of objects 10 feet away
severe sun
No, brand new PC - still can't see the other side of the space station though!
uncut harness
The station popin is just silly
glass flare
so my point was that there's no way they can make significant engine and biome improvements without cutting off current gen
uncut harness
I have seen mods that fix it, seems intentional, but dunno why.
severe sun
So what you're saying is, NMS2 is being announced tomorrow
uncut harness
Dunno about that, game has even trouble loading stuff in space even when there is absolutely nothing going on.
Like summon the anomaly, stays blurry for 10 seconds
That just doesn't seem right
uncut harness
I turn it off then turn it on again because I found the stutter even more annoying
And I hate motion blur
severe sun
Experimental branch is still experimental I see, so I think odds of an update tomorrow are slimming
glass flare
feels bad
stuck hinge
Oh wow just noticed today is the 11th. That means a variety update is confirmed 🤫
severe sun
ever notice that variety and update have the same a different number of letters?
not a coincidence
wait! miscounted
gotta use all my fingers...
severe sun
- Lost some in a Gek accident.
nocturne zephyr
oh that's not many
uncut harness
comes out of nowhere
severe sun
I was a fool not to see it
idle jay
We are getting several variety updates. IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!!
sinful saddle
we need a #nms-conspiracies channel
covert wing
No news yet
solid cliff
damnit
timid mist
interesting
compact coyote
curently on The Purge mission. and wow
willow stirrup
Make sure you complete the Atlas Path while you're doing that mission
willow stirrup
It will take 10 warps to complete the Atlas Path if you have no stone blueprints already. It's worth it
compact coyote
ive been playing since 2016 and i always stopped at patterns in time for some reason. this is my first time going further
willow stirrup
heh
I started at launch as well (pre-ordered), but stepped away a couple of times. Came back strong with Beyond, though
compact coyote
i got it in Dec 2016 when foundation update was in
steel turret
Hey, someone said in the help channel that you guys might help better
I have no Atlas Path quest in my log, I cant get Atlas station co-ordinates from Polo or use the Atlas Station destination on my galaxy map
How can I do the Atlas Path if this is the case?
severe sun
if you open your galactic map and press down, can you select a route to an atlas interface
timid mist
I think that's only available if the mission is active isn't it?
timid mist
It does actually
steel turret
Yeah I dont have the mission in my log though
timid mist
But yeah if Polo isn't giving you the option I'm not sure. What have you tried so far?
steel turret
I dont know of anything to try
severe sun
have you tried summoning the anomoly from a different system?
steel turret
part of me thinks if I find an atlas station and go in, the quest might start for me
Yep
severe sun
it'll reset polo's dialogue
severe sun
have you ever been to an atlas interface?
steel turret
Im pretty sure I did on this save ages ago
severe sun
is it possible you've already completed the atlas path?
steel turret
im continuing an old save i had from a long time ago
like when Next came out
well, I dont have any of the blueprints and I didnt get any of the seeds or anything
severe sun
I don't know then - your issue is kind of unique
if your game is glitched, it might resolve itself on its own
do some more things, see if polo will eventually give you directions
what exactly does he say when you speak to him?
screenshot would be perfect
steel turret
he says he sent Atlas station co ordinates to my starship PC
*starship computer
then I go to my starship, and I see no atlas station and no ability to select it as a destination path
timid mist
how far into the quest were you before?
steel turret
I dont remember, but not that far I dont think
steel turret
i did it a long time ago
severe sun
log it there, they might be able to help
steel turret
I have 4 atlas stones in my inventory
prime inlet
i was going to ask you earlier if this was an older save actually lol
severe sun
I'd specifically mention that you started the mission over a year ago
steel turret
so I know I did at least some of it
timid mist
do you know how to access your save folder? I might be able to fix it for you
severe sun
The atlas stones aren't glitch items, they can be tossed
steel turret
its in AppData right?
severe sun
I've still got some
timid mist
yeah
severe sun
I keep them on my freighter
timid mist
if you DM me a zip of your save I can take a crack at adding the mission back in for you
timid mist
yep take your time
steel turret
i have a weird folder name in the HelloGames\NMS folder
do you need a zip of that whole folder?
timid mist
yeah it's probably some long string of numbers
steel turret
yeah
timid mist
with st or someting in thing beginning
steel turret
correct
timid mist
and yeah just zip that and DM it
vocal shoal
Summer update doesn't come out:
Someone: September 21st it is.
willow stirrup
I mean...technically both Cross Play and Desolation came out during the summer
stuck hinge
September
compact coyote
yeah im aiming for september and we get a trailer this month
willow stirrup
When Beyond came out, we got the trailer the day before it released 😛
idle jay
Probably a teaser this month. Those usually come out a while before the trailer and update does
uncut harness
@solid cliff I feel bad for Arthmis now, he calling me and shit about not remembering nothing, I should've let him go :(
proud gale
@idle jay not if they continue desolation-style
idle jay
Yeah. Just depends on what they are doing I guess
sweet hinge
hopefully the new update fixes the teleporter bugs lmao
hollow sluice
Question, I got some of the new base parts from a freighter raid, however I can't find them in the build menus. Where are they supposed to be?
vocal shoal
Try checking the blueprint terminal thing, i forgot the actual name.
Where you research new building parts
hollow sluice
aaaaah, will look
Nope, not there. Weird.
so, should be Decoration > Interior. Will look to see if I am running experimental build or not after I have slept.
vocal shoal
ok
solid cliff
@uncut harness hehe told you, it's not cool to maintain alive a piece of dead flesh 😛
last anchor
Ayy new bug fix
mighty rampart
basically, 16 is a pretty important number in computer terms (16 bit computing)
so this game has quite a few nods to the number
uncut harness
so does it not mean anything to the plot?
mighty rampart
it does also, since the Atlas thinks it has 16 mins to live which can mean any time frame
and also how all NPCs freak out at that number because they are all in a way part of the sim
nocturne plinth
is there a discord or something dedicated to data mining or leaks?
timid mist
There is a modding discord, believe it's pinned somewhere in #nms-modding . I think that's the closest you'll get.