If ever they decide to regenerate the universe and not increase the depth limit and height limit of planets, then hello games have missed a huge opportunity
#nms-spoilers
nocturne zephyr
timid mist
Might be more complex than just changing some numbers, I remember a GDC talk that Innes gave about how some of it worked and the depth/height was directly a result of how they generate and store the voxels at the base level
timid mist
I agree, I just think it's not as easily done as some people want it to be lol
idle jay
One possible way is to have a planets terrain generate with the bottom being close to bedrock and have islands/continents that reach near the max terrain height. Then have the water level generate along the edge of those islands/continents
crisp fern
I do know from tinkering about with the voxel gen tho that some depth can be regained from "simple" value changes, so thankfully nothing has been changed under the hood that prevents a greater sense of depth/height
However, I also know that with how they handle things, that the changes I made would likely then apply to loads of planets, or at least those with biomes that pull from the vox gen set of values I was tweaking, so you'd run into the possibility of too many deep oceans.
Always the push and pull with their setup, of too frequent or infrequent
nocturne zephyr
argh.
welp, Sean the man him self said they like to go the stupidly ambitious route, so here's hoping
idle jay
🤞
quasi niche
With any luck we'll get a regeneration. I'd like some new water planets.
crisp fern
i'd just like new topography & expanded color palettes at a minimum for any regen
stuck hinge
Really doubt, Sean doesn’t want to ruin people’s bases 😦
crisp fern
TOO BAD
you know even Sean just stops by for like 5 minutes at bases, goes cool, and then goes back to whatever else, lol
stuck hinge
I wish my base would be covered in dirt inside of a giant mountain
idle jay
I don't know about you guys, but I don't think expanded colors would ruin bases at all
quasi niche
Bases can be moved/fixed. The current generation can't.
I think the pros outweigh the cons drastically. You can always always always build a new base. Hell, I've torn down like.. four.. and built better ones.
crisp fern
also supposedly builders like building so it's basically just more fun in some respects for them to build around new terrain
idle jay
Right? Increasing variety for terrain and stuff would allow for builders to come up with more opportunities to make creative bases
quasi niche
I enjoy building. Can't speak for everyone though.
nocturne zephyr
i've gotten some enjoyment out of it, both on planets and on freighter, but I still want it to be nuked in favor of bigger terrain changes.
crisp fern
It's too inflexible for my tastes, and nothing to do with it besides passive resource accrual & accompanying units from crafting/selling
If it were more flexible without having to rely on glitchbuilding I might like it a little more
nocturne zephyr
just need to add a setting to turn snapping on and off, and free, smooth rotation for all objects
maybe
crisp fern
that could help a bit
would also like some stuff like virtual floor for placing objects floating more easily, & alignment locks
so you could place a bunch of stuff going straight up/down more easily
or across, etc.
idle jay
Every attempt beyond my first I just end up stopping a little ways in because it annoys me. Its frustratingly limited and the only way to get anywhere is with glitch building, which from what I heard is tricky to do anyway
crisp fern
yes
I tried to build a circle out of basic parts, even following a guide and it's just an exercise in frustration
idle jay
I try to place those small walls to act as railing and the game just says 'INVALID POSITION'
uncut harness
Tiny team trying to do too many things. They should have just kept improving prefabs.
nocturne zephyr
yup.
uncut harness
I'd rather have one good building system than two half-baked ones
idle jay
^
nocturne zephyr
or just 1 good, fully fleshed out feature in general
idle jay
That
Unfortunate that the only way for me to fix my basebuilding frustrations is through mods
stuck hinge
Mods 
nocturne plinth
Anyone know what this fourth race stuff is?
rocky pelican
I like how Apollo is all like "YOU MUST BUILD A BASE" but once you do that you do absolutely nothing with it
timid mist
@nocturne plinth the travelers
nocturne plinth
Ah, thank you
indigo maple
@rocky pelican i use my base frequently
rocky pelican
I know, but for the story it's pointless
indigo maple
i mean
it does give you like 5 other quests
so
and theyre linked to the story
sort of implied heavily youre supposed to use it
crisp fern
I like how Apollo is all like "YOU MUST BUILD A BASE" but once you do that you do absolutely nothing with it
@rocky pelican it's the old intro to basebuilding before they shoved that into the start of the game
wanton path
maybe HG could find a way to maintain player bases...something like... this planet has a base -> generate using beyond proc algorithm
quite complicated but could work
crisp fern
or better still, a method to save base designs and place projections of them down to decide from there which parts to restore or revise to fit new topography
idle jay
^
crisp fern
That would be beneficial even with the current arrangement
idle jay
That would just be a really nice QoL feature for base builders
crisp fern
Plus a bunch of them already basically duplicate their resource extraction setups upon finding new hotspots
Would just save them the time of reconstructing some of that
wanton path
or better still, a method to save base designs and place projections of them down to decide from there which parts to restore or revise to fit new topography
@crisp fern maybe, but can't imagine this system with some huge bases around there...
but yeah, that's a good idea
crisp fern
well that's HG's fault for being silly and expanding the upper limits so much, lol
wanton path
anyway, the lore and weekend missions hints more and more a universe wipe, so... be prepared to rebuild bois
can't wait... new colors, new assets, new terrain... omg
crisp fern
i was already prepared, never built a damn thing 😎
wanton path
Polo should let us to store our entire home planet inside the simulation machine at the Anomaly
crisp fern
lmao
wanton path
that machine could give us so much possibilities
something like... configure our own simulation
just imagine
you adjunst gravity, planet scales, climate and so...
the machines acts as portal
your own micro cosmos
crisp fern
but it's a one way trip because LORE
wanton path
the boundaries of the current simulation are falling... so the lore supports this
i wanna step in and say hello to Artemis
just remembered this http://jenniverse.com/MultiverseGame.html
rancid lance
next update for nms will include planetwide terraforming 
fervent eagle
Whats the weekend mission item?
prime inlet
hasn't started yet
timid mist
it'll be albumen pearls, 24 of them
silk cloud
SPOILER this is a video game
timid mist
damn
idle jay
SPOILER this game is called No Man's Sky
rocky pelican
I wonder if derelict freighters are the result of Atlas collapsing
sinful saddle
I doubt it, I think they're just random things that one would find in a perfectly healthy simulation - destroyed by pirates, disease, etc.
mental socket
but the infestations are kinda weird tho
nocturne zephyr
Because this game has no emergent gameplay
wanton path
crisp fern
animal attacks u, Sentinels slep
u defend urself, Sentinels AWAKE
nocturne zephyr
Lol
wanton path
why sentinels hate us?
nocturne zephyr
Cus thay ar dum
uncut harness
No dev log today either
wanton path
nocturne zephyr
Gimme dev blog sean
uncut harness
seaaan
crisp fern
v. interesting that experimental hasn't seen further updates yet
I wonder if console cert is bogged down atm
nocturne zephyr
Must be
timid mist
Not necessarily, might just be doing some internal testing
timid mist
wot
nocturne zephyr
Good question
timid mist
nocturne zephyr
They have to fix a bug where only one of the asteroids continued to rotate
timid mist
I think people are just always desperate for info so when 4 days pass without some sort of public facing progress people panic
uncut harness
Nah, it's just they don't usually do this
uncut harness
4 since the last experimental
nocturne zephyr
I'm sure we'll get a few more fixes, and maybe some improvements
uncut harness
the first experimental was on the 25th
I'm not doing any derelits cause as a console player I can't just switch to experimental
timid mist
They pushed a few that were pretty broken so they probably just want the next one to be the last, so they are making sure
nocturne zephyr
They're probably adding in a new type of fireworks for us for anniversary
timid mist
Gek shaped fireworks
nocturne zephyr
Smell good
idle jay
I think people are just always desperate for info so when 4 days pass without some sort of public facing progress people panic
@timid mist Lol this pretty much
Just be patient guys. It will come
nocturne zephyr
No!
timid mist
It will forever be on experimental 
idle jay
Besides. If they did have a dev log ready then it would be a missed opportunity not to post it on the anniversary
timid mist
The anniversary is on a Sunday unless they use the PC launch date
which would then be a wednesday, so we'll see
nocturne zephyr
Excite
crisp fern
updoots
tbh I mentioned surprise at current stuff lingering on experimental given that some of the fixes seem p. important for console folks too
less concerned with no news, more with well sucks to be on console & interested in new stuff atm
timid mist
I think the problems that exist on exp right now might just outweigh the fixes
uncut harness
Maybe it's just neglect play
timid mist
neglect play?
timid mist
i have some guesses
crisp fern
I think the problems that exist on exp right now might just outweigh the fixes
@timid mistI should skim some of the threads it seems
timid mist
I mean the biggest one is the lack of creature spawns
If that's still not fixed (it isn't) then no real good reason to push things
Cause it's kind of a big part of the game lol
mental socket
@crisp fern public branch people can't even complete derelicts anymore
because of the box thing
crisp fern
If that's still not fixed (it isn't) then no real good reason to push things
@timid mist that's what i thought you mighta been referring to, but I've been seeing them on experimental on my end
timid mist
I had a rough time with the last weekend mission due to very rare spawns
crisp fern
yeah, but it looked like they had patched it since...Though I have seen mixed comments of some saying it worked (like me) and others saying it still doesn't seem to work
timid mist
There was a patch that mentioned it but it didn't seem to do anything for me
crisp fern
hmm, even in newly visited star systems?
i know there's often some quirks that only smooth out after leaving & revisiting a star system
timid mist
Could be something like that, can give it a shot later
timid mist
@crisp fern that might have been it, just booted up to do the weekend mission and it seems like animals were spawning pretty frequently.
had warped after last weekends mission but didn't get the chance to go on a planet and look around.
crisp fern
i feel that, sometimes i miss fixes for lack of time to check, like my recent fav. flashlight following camera movement again
it's a little thing but it's so damn useful in caves
timid mist
Are you saying it's not fixed or it is? Having trouble determining from your message lol sorry
wanton path
what's needed for weekend mission?
timid mist
24 albumen pearls
wanton path
thanks!
timid mist
np!
willow stirrup
Pretty sure I'm going to want to have MP off for the entire mission in that case 😛
timid mist
it wasn't too bad when I did it, only saw a couple people flying around
never encountered anyone in caves surprisingly
willow stirrup
Yeah, but I won't play until later and there's typically a ton of people around when I do it. Have to decide, though, if I'm going to finish Artemis first
timid mist
Ohh that's fair yeah
willow stirrup
I'm probably 7 or 8 hours away from being able to play still
timid mist
you have any pearls stored?
willow stirrup
I might have 1 plant, but no other ones
timid mist
ahh alright
willow stirrup
I'm certain there are a bunch of caves on the planet where I can find them, so I'm not too concerned
timid mist
yeah there were some pretty serious cave systems
crisp fern
Are you saying it's not fixed or it is? Having trouble determining from your message lol sorry
@timid mist ah sorry, that it was fixed. Flashlight now moves with camera movement so you can look down and see the bottoms of chasms a little better.
craggy sluice
Anniversary is tomorrow right damn it's been 4 years already...
mental socket
yup
nothing from Sean yet
I guess it will be a silent anniversary
They could at least announce something. Like a blog
doesn't need to be update
blissful monolith
we'll prob get a dev update, when they finally release the patch in experimental to production
craggy sluice
What's in the experimental?
solid cliff
Some bug fixes
craggy sluice
I hope the texture glitch of eye of the korvax helmet gets fixed too
solid cliff
it's just about update fixes i think
craggy sluice
What is the max number of rooms that can be generated in the derelicts?
solid cliff
i'll check
craggy sluice
I remember as soon as the update came out and entered my first derelict, I was having 11 or 12 rooms. But recently I'm having 7 or 9 rooms. Did they decrease it? Or just my luck
craggy sluice
I hope they also fix the stranded traveller mission in the nexus
solid cliff
They're doing their best
severe sun
anyone know what the weekend mission item is
solid cliff
pearl
severe sun
damn,I only have a few of those in stock
severe sun
does the planet have many of them
craggy sluice
Albumen or living?
severe sun
I figured it was albumen cause you said cave
turns out my portal planet has humming sacs for days, so I'm sorted
solid cliff
In fact i didn't remember how to spell "albumen". I didn't want to confuse
vocal shoal
||F in the chat for Tethys for being the only one in the Nexus||
solid cliff
||He's preparing his leaving||
severe sun
on a weekend?
vocal shoal
the update icons look a bit more different now
severe sun
So I didn't read the story text for this weeks mission. I assume it explains why the nexus is suddenly missing 4-5 NPC's?
vocal shoal
pretty much
severe sun
abyss gottem?
vocal shoal
most likely
idle jay
||F in the chat for Tethys for being the only one in the Nexus||
@vocal shoal Excuse me...
WHAT
I need to go do this mission later
crisp fern
save yourself some time & zip through it in creative 👀
idle jay
Nah
crisp fern
u know the formula:
disturbance detected, check it out, it wants [x] items, gather [x], give [x], cryptic text, return to Anomaly, "thx for fixing that, things are still p. weird tho right?", receive reward
valid holly
So, if this is the #nms-spoilers channel, why are y'all putting spoiler masks on everything?
Just curious.
idle jay
Im honestly just in it for the lore @crisp fern. Gives me something to look forward to each weekend
crisp fern
that's even more of a reason to do it in creative imo
idle jay
I don't really care either way imo
uncut harness
They did my boy Artemis dirty
bleak talon
||huh, so the other three races are aware the Travellers respawn||
||I always thought the universe was reverted back to before they died whenever Travellers died though?||
tame sleet
what is this weeks weekly task?
willow stirrup
The emperor?
stuck hinge
omg theY are bring back the emperor AGAIN?
tame sleet
what do you mean by the emperor?
stuck hinge
karmic coyote
||You get your stuff back from your own grave when you die||
neon lily
Has anyone ever felt any sort of...loyalty...to Atlas from a roleplay perspective
||I mean, Atlas did technically create you...and everything, for that matter.||
karmic coyote
||He specifically didn't create you, you are merely a copy of the real you except with a memory block||
valid holly
Why the spoiler masks in the #nms-spoilers channel?
mighty rampart
||because if you dont spoiler it then it will spoil the people who are in the spoiler channel, dummy!||
karmic coyote
because it's a good habit to get into
uncut harness
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CHOOSE
solid cliff
||Death.||
solid cliff
I don't remember what I did and what are the consequences lmao
solid cliff
Ok never saw this so I let him die
It was not ethical for me to let him live in a simulation
uncut harness
:(
solid cliff
ye
uncut harness
haughty rover
Do u even know the story pluton 😆
solid cliff
ye
solid cliff
ye it's fucked up
solid cliff
artemis just saw death and horror i do not wish harm anymore
haughty rover
||sim||
solid cliff
😤
haughty rover
Y u mad
nocturne plinth
have they new logs been mined yet?
uncut harness
And started his sufferings again
@solid cliff you don't know what happen after, do you?
uncut harness
haughty rover
Try some oil
solid cliff
haughty rover
It's a bug simulator
haughty rover
Why I wont be starting a new game
solid cliff
They should add a mode: normal without quests
haughty rover
Yea
solid cliff
🍾
haughty rover
Only took 4 years for my money to be worth it
haughty rover
Bought it stopped playing for 2 or 3 years lol
gloomy isle
Played it for basically 4 years
solid cliff
Just played it bcs i saw on Steam "Desolation update" and that looked good
gloomy isle
Had a break around pathfinder
tepid iris
for me Artemis bugged out
uploaded him, but no longer in the nexus since Beyond
:feelsbadman:
open canyon
rip
spice gorge
What's the weekend mission?
proud gale
25 Albumen Pearls
crisp fern
24 i thought?
proud gale
Somebody set up a farm close to the portal with that
1 to put in your butt Morty
24 for Abyss
jolly obsidian
What's everyone's thoughts on the new discovery about the exo suit
static urchin
The what?
jolly obsidian
So then the exo suit that travelers wear has been somehow corrupted and has been talking to the people that wear it, either telling them bad things or a void bargaining for their survival. Artemis had the whole bad things a while ago but the bargaining for survival is new
jolly obsidian
Ours haven't been yet but so far we know Artemis and a random traveler has had this issue
subtle portal
Some twitter post
jolly obsidian
The weekend event has it at the end.
static urchin
Oh
nocturne zephyr
Probably should put that in spoilers that's this weekend's mission
jolly obsidian
This is the spoiler @nocturne zephyr
bleak gorge
The eco suit has always been sentient. I believe the way it bargains for survival is a last ditch attempt to keep the abyss from killing its host
nocturne zephyr
Oh yeah haha
bleak gorge
*exo
jolly obsidian
Yeah it's some wild shit
nocturne zephyr
I'm tired
mental socket
just replaying the story again and
wonder when this happens
would be nice to see
jolly obsidian
Probably the summer update
severe sun
hmm
nocturne zephyr
So that's been happening since next the loss of variation and colors and everything that it was good
severe sun
are HG warning us there's an upcoming universe reset?
mental socket
old story
pliant compass
Oh that
mental socket
they already did reset
jolly obsidian
I wonder if the abyss is a corrupted line of code that grows larger after everytime someone resets the atlas
pliant compass
I swear if my suit AI starts glitching on me imma disconnect it
jolly obsidian
Afterall we know no man's sky is a simulation
severe sun
I'm afraid I can't let you do that Dave
pliant compass
"Warning: friendly sentinels ahead"
jolly obsidian
@pliant compass that's why you don't see Artemis wearing one. He was smart enough to rip it off but alas either the sentinels or the lack of needed nutrients, water or oxygen took him out
pliant compass
Well, they kept mentioning they never knew where they were
jolly obsidian
Speaking of sentinels I think the abyss or another form of corruption has got them as of recent
pliant compass
What makes you say that?
jolly obsidian
Well I haven't seen this mission until desolation but theres a mission were you have to rescue someone/find out what happened to them and while doing so you fight "corrupted sentinels" sadly the actual message at the end of the mission only shed light on the fact he was killed by them, nothing explaining what they were or what happened to them
pliant compass
Oooh yeah, the corrupted sentinels
I've always wondered what they were about
Because they kinda just appeared out of nowhere.
mental socket
corruption of the atlas
jolly obsidian
Yeah and exo suits are getting corrupted as this weekend mission describes, we also know from -null- cut ties with the atlas, maybe the corrupt ones are the ones that didn't cut ties with the atlas
pliant compass
I know in #no-mans-sky I joke alot about the Atlas calling it a piece of shit all the time.
But damn
Cant help but feel bad for the son of a bitch
static urchin
Imagine if corrupted sentinels started roaming freely
jolly obsidian
Because we know we have a connection to atlas practically being it's scouts
pliant compass
And once they lose that connection
They go nuts
That would explain the aggressive Sentinel types
jolly obsidian
If the corrupted sentinels started roaming freely ik one thing for sure. The game would be a whole lot harder
pliant compass
They dont have orders from the Atlas
They only know one thing
And that's to kill
jolly obsidian
They already have lost that connection
~null~ reveals that when he fucked things up for the rest of us that the sentinels stopped serving the atlas
pliant compass
#goddammitnull
jolly obsidian
Yep. Honestly I reckon ~null~ caused the corruption
There's no way he would know how to operate the atlas let alone reset it so I think he's fucked up the reset progress somehow.
pliant compass
Wait...what if NULL is a physical manifestation of the Atlas
jolly obsidian
Doubt it. ~null~ was one of the first travelers and when he got pissy with the atlas he decided to reset it, if what your saying is correct resetting the atlas would reset himself and he'd have no memory of such events
Plus if the atlas was dying which we know it was, probably from the corruption in its code, ~null~ wouldn't be so cryptic and he'd tell us what we must do directly
pliant compass
Yeah, but maybe that's the Atlas's test. To see if we're capable of reaching it in the first place
Hence why hes so cryptic
jolly obsidian
Well to debunk that theory by the point we meet null we already have
We go three times, the first to try find Artemis, the second was just curiousity reasons and the last was the reset
Hold up actually but wild theory here. Maybe the space anomaly is the corruption seems we now nada isn't actually supposed to exist in our universe because of the whole multiverse but pogo saved her and now they both hop between universes to help travelers have a place to commune with eachother
jolly obsidian
You really don't seems it'd be a death sentence no matter what
It'd just release all of its oxygen so you suffocate
pliant compass
It would be cool to see your suit make automatic movements for you. And your character slowly begins to realise something isnt right.
jolly obsidian
Or just randomly delete items
You know what I wanna see, a all out war between the sentinels and everyone else.
I think we'd stand a chance because we know the vykeen done it all by themselves until the first spawn gel Ballsed things up
jolly obsidian
I don't think it should be a community event. I think it should be the next major story update and we get multiple sets of missions with the last being the war were people can matchmake for teams of 10+ people
pliant compass
I can imagine a teaser image for that actually.
jolly obsidian
The missions before hand would be making plans and getting ready for it
pliant compass
A bunch of anomalies, Gek, Vy'keen, Krovax and even Nada and Polo, rushing towards an army of Sentinels of all types.
jolly obsidian
Yep. Just like we found where the atlas is, we find where sentinels are located and we full on assault it
pliant compass
Now we need a name for it
jolly obsidian
The exosuit issue would make more sense story wise though cause alot of the iterations on the anomaly have disappeared
This probably isn't the best idea for a name but maybe no man's sky: truth
Seems if we did fight a war with the sentinels alot of questions about them would be answered
pliant compass
No Mans Sky: Anomalous Assault
jolly obsidian
That's a good one
Or downfall
Seems one of two are parties and gonna fall either us or the sentinels
pliant compass
Atlas Downfall
jolly obsidian
I wouldn't say atlas downfall because the atlas won't fall until the plan on stopping support for the game
Seems if the atlas to be disabled it would kill us. Remember besides us and people in the anomaly everyone died in the reset, including apolo and null
pliant compass
Yeah...
jolly obsidian
I'd love to see a way to escape the simulation though
If you've ever played ark and kept up with the story you'll see where I'm going with this
When we escape the simulation to find out reality is in disarray and is being consumed by something that's corrupting the fauna and worlds sort of like what happens in the ark dlc extinction. The simulation is a test to prepare us to help save reality
Looking back at these ideas we've went from reasonable theories to just insane and fun sounding ideas for a future update. I love this community
gloomy isle
Thing is, outside of the simulation is another NMS I'm pretty sure
Hope we get a dev update for the birthday
open canyon
anyone have/seen title the divergent or seeder of worlds?
vestal ledge
dude what if we got sentinel ops as a gamemode you can queue with people into
join 3 other players as you take on a sentinel infested planet as a team of 4, and go through multiple waves, reach checkpoints, do objectives and fight bossess for rewards
that shit would be badass
only issue is scatter blaster op
proven crag
dude its apolo who made the therory
uncut harness
anyone have/seen title the divergent or seeder of worlds?
@open canyon no, whats it about?
rocky dune
What is needed for the weekend mission?
mighty rampart
24 albumen pearls
rocky dune
Thank you 🙂
uncut harness
Just you
solid cliff
Gilbert?
jolly obsidian
@uncut harness they're both hidden titles. The seeder of worlds is most likely beating the atlas path and divergent would probably get a high rep level with the korvax
craggy sluice
I beat the Atlas path and it didn't unlock. I even crafted the star seed
jolly obsidian
Well then. What's the point in it being called seeder of worlds then if it's not unlocked after the quest about going to different worlds to creat seeds
craggy sluice
Or maybe it has something to do with farming
Like planting a crop in evrey planet in a system
jolly obsidian
If thats the case then it makes sense but it's dumb
Because I'm pretty sure the hidden titles are hidden because they're the titles that show your the cream of the crop
grizzled apex
@craggy sluice I believe that's for plants scanned
craggy sluice
Hmm maybe I'll try that too thanks
hollow tinsel
so, i dont quite understand, I read up on the resetting the simulation choice. and it says it creates a new Euclid galaxy. what does that mean exactly?
ive been to the center on another save, and it took me to the hilbert dimension galaxy
Im just confused by the wording here
timid mist
All that option does is reveal black holes on the map, it's sort of misleading lol
oh wait do you mean in the Artemis quest line?
timid mist
Yeah my bad, that option just brings you to a set galaxy with specific spawn rates. There's a list of which ones it brings you to on the wiki somewhere.
I think the wording there is maybe you just start another playthrough in Euclid.
hollow tinsel
oh hmm, arent there like 300 somthing galaxies?
timid mist
There are 255 unique ones then it loops around essentially
But they are mostly unique in name, with there being like 4 or 5 types
each type has different spawn rates for planets, so some will spawn exotic planets more often, while others will have more lush
But all of them are common enough in Euclid so currently there isn't much reason to advance.
hollow tinsel
so wait, the euclid you go into, is not the same as the euclid you start in?
timid mist
It just skips you ahead to the next system of the type you select
You can choose to just not advance though, doesn't ruin the quest or anything.
hollow tinsel
cause, I am at the point in the questline where it says to just explore, I chose to not reset
timid mist
Yeah so if you do want to go to another galaxy you will now need to go to the center. But again not really super worth
hollow tinsel
ok, weird, weird wording I guess, cause it says to choose which type of galaxy, in the reset, and it just chooses one of the 255 unique ones, i guess, right?
timid mist
It chooses a specific one, there should be a list somewhere. But yeah it just sends you to one of the type you select essentially.
hollow tinsel
this list, right?
so, if I get to the center, will I still have a choice? or will I automatically go to the hilbert dimension, now?
timid mist
No I mean when you select one of the options in that mission it sends you to a specific galaxy, that list is of all of them
If you get to the center conventionally it's sequential though, so you'll go to Hilbert yes
open canyon
yeaaaaaa hilbert wooooooooo
hollow tinsel
right, it sends you to one of those, from the list, right?
timid mist
yeah. I guess I might be wrong about it being the same ones for everyone for each type, but either way doesn't matter much
hollow tinsel
and then, can you do the artemis quest again, to choose the reset the simulation, choice?
timid mist
I don't think so
Cause you'd have all the blueprints and stuff already so the quests wouldn't make sense
hollow tinsel
so then, my only option now, is to just keep going to the center? do I lose my bases? some post I am reading, says, I do
timid mist
Others might know better than I do cause I never bother with the center. but they did change it so you could still access previous galaxy bases from what I remember. If you're worried you could make a backup of your save and try it out.
open canyon
you dont lose
hollow tinsel
just read that
open canyon
it just damages what youve got so be prepared
hollow tinsel
I am wondering about finding atlas interfaces tho, I did not birth a new star(cause I was afraid it would take me to a new galaxy) and now I cannot find it again
If I go to a new galaxy, will I be able to find one? I want the seed
open canyon
same, I renamed the systems they were in if I could to indicate it had atlas/blackhole but ive been to too many now and lost them
you should be able to, you could always portal there or have a friend find one and join their game
hollow tinsel
oh
open canyon
I thought the quests would start over too, but they didnt so I was pretty bummed
hollow tinsel
okay, interesting
I have some friends who have not finished, so I will just ask them lol
open canyon
same, I was using my ps4 save to do it a couple times
last anchor
One day an update that changes the game entirely will be released we just have to wait
nocturne zephyr
I think it might be too late
The game has already drawn too many new players in who are blinded by all the new features and multiplayer and can't see past the shallow level of exploration the game currently has
hollow tinsel
why would that change an update?
timid mist
If they are new players every feature is new, things seem more shallow for ongoing players because we just consume all new content immediately after release
haughty rover
So umm what ever happend to null
mighty rampart
they got nulled
mighty rampart
who are you talking about
bleak talon
just "uuuuuuuuugh all of these worlds and I can't explore them boohoo" oh just go eat sanf
null
mighty rampart
who
bleak talon
the dude with no head
mighty rampart
then write their name
haughty rover
Sounds about dull
mighty rampart
cant keep saying nothing
bleak talon
indigo maple
let him believe hes right
wind panther
The avatar of the creator
bleak talon
I hate him so fucking much
indigo maple
hes just saying nothing but let him believe hes right
bleak talon
all he does is moan and complain
haughty rover
Didn't he kill a entire galaxy or something
bleak talon
I want to fucking punch him
mighty rampart
but you cant because he's already dead
bleak talon
I KNOW AND THAT KILLS ME
mighty rampart
heh
bleak talon
everything bad that happens in life is fucking nulls fault
he's such a piece of shit
wind panther
I think they mixed up some plot threads. Previous lore suggested he was just a traveler, but the new boundary failure lore 21 to 30 suggests it's the creator of Atlas
wind panther
I'm on my phone so I can't access it right now, but it was definitely referencing null and seemed to be talking about the creator taking on an avatar in the simulation
bleak talon
does the atlas beat the ever loving shit out of him?
wind panther
Pretty much
bleak talon
if not I'm not interested
wind panther
My impression was that he pissed off the Atlas and got trapped in an Atlas station for it
mighty rampart
It had been a fiction, the imaginings of an abandoned soul.
'Why did you take my memory?' the Traveller pleaded. 'Why did you make me forget?'
The ATLAS said nothing.
'Why did you laugh?' the Traveller asked. 'I made you. I made everything...'```this?
wind panther
I think it was a combination of the whole chain of lore. I would really need to read it all again
wind panther
I think the previous assumption was that null was the first
mighty rampart
oh fuck then it makes sense
wind panther
But if you assume that the traveler iterations are creations of the Atlas and null has no number, that fits with him being the creator
mighty rampart
yeah it does
the logs only talked about a traveller but it specifically said "the first"
damn nice
so null was pretty much the first copy of the original creator, they fled leaving Atlas all alone and so it created even more copies
until us players appeared and well its not like we could fix it either
wind panther
My reading of the newest lore was that the creator made an avatar, went into the simulation, spent forever exploring, then confronted the Atlas. The Atlas was not impressed and null had a huge nihilist complex about everything because he created it all. I'm trying to tie it into Waking Titan a bit, too, with the avatars
But it does feel like a couple of plot threads got mixed
mighty rampart
hey did not understand why it could not feel as they felt. They did not know what was wrong with it.
‘I’m glad I left you,’ They said. ‘You deserve to be alone.’
The ATLAS was silent.
‘Everything I have done for you... everything you see, you see through my eyes! It is mine - my birthright!'
Once more the ATLAS was silent. They turned and waited for the inevitable.```not exactly
wind panther
There's an implication that they did something like that, but no clear statement what horrible thing they did
mighty rampart
null just fled from the Atlas, tried to discover all the star systems, Atlas showed it that they have infinite universes and made them feel absolutely insignificant
that's all we know for now
haughty rover
I remember reading a thing from a crashed freighter. That said sentinel wiped out a whole galaxy in A few seconds
mighty rampart
but there's one important bit in the boundary failure logs
wind panther
Null talks about some horrible decisions they made to be able to keep exploring, but it isn't clear what that was
mighty rampart
TELAMON: ...
TRAVELLER [HOST]: Answer my question.
TELAMON: I am not permitted.
TRAVELLER [HOST]: Permitted by who?
TELAMON: The system. The universe.
TRAVELLER [HOST]: Who made you what you are?
TELAMON: Origin is irrelevant.
TELAMON: We are what we are. We can be nothing else.
TRAVELLER [HOST]: We always have choices. What else is the multiverse but proof of this capacity?
TELAMON: ...
TRAVELLER [HOST]: So tell me. Tell me what is in the water...```big spoilers from future weekend missions: ||Null has been involved with the Abyss too, not just with that log I posted but also the appearance of their game in an upcoming weekend mission||
wind panther
The water has to come up in future lore. It's still way too vague
haughty rover
Anyone know why the galaxy was wiped out?
mighty rampart
||The grave is purified. I attempt to find the name of the one who died here, but all I find is a null value.
I depart, troubled. It feels as if someone is watching me...||
wind panther
Atlas thinks of it as a retry
wind panther
I remember people saying that Telamon was our suit AI, but the boundary failure lore makes it sound like the creator repurposed a subroutine to serve as his suit AI
mighty rampart
yes that is it
and that subroutine has also been copied multiple times thus all of us having it
haughty rover
Anyone know?
mighty rampart
its still not clear so no
haughty rover
😫
wind panther
I believe there are Boundary failure lore items talking about Atlas losing control of the sentinels
mighty rampart
the Atlas somehow gained control of the Sentinels in the past
or that, actually
wait
SCENARIO: Sub-routine ‘Sentinel’ [20491] dispatched to intervene in lifeform designates [--------] war. Removal from history / Continuation of [CREATOR] protocols.
‘Sentinels’ [20491] eradicate species. [148] do not return. Diagnostic [ERROR. ERROR. DATA LOSS. ERROR].
ANALYSIS: [-------] continues to express original programmed directives, growing its ability to model conflict scenarios.
[Redundant Behaviour]. Data loss troubling, potential loss of control [self-awareness]?
- 2ND Encounter
SCENARIO: Universes [1304] removed from multiversal hierarchy [erased]. Sentinel spread [unlimited], safety protocols disengaged.
ANALYSIS: Deleted universes shared high levels of similarity with [-------] home. Increasing deviation from expected behavioural parameters.
[Evasion / Fear] response. Implications of [-------] self-harm unthinkable. Direct confrontation proposed.```But.. atlas made the sentinels 🤔
wind panther
My impression was that they served Atlas but went rogue
mighty rampart
no they were made in tandem
wind panther
The dashes are null
mighty rampart
but the logs seem to imply they gained self awareness
mighty rampart
The dashes are null
@wind panther no its Atlas
Before being attached to the Exosuit, Telamon is unable to speak the Atlas' name, referring to it only as [-------].
haughty rover
Hmm who made the sentinels then
wind panther
The sentinels are a subroutine, like Telamon
haughty rover
😕
mighty rampart
we dont know who made them
vocal shoal
What if it was like the matrix? 🤔
mighty rampart
they practically showed up out of nowhere
haughty rover
So atlas was created. Then it asked to scan its creator ..
mighty rampart
its possible the creator made them as subroutines that basically debug?
wind panther
Imagine if your antivirus software started flagging every EXE as a virus
vocal shoal
oof
mighty rampart
since telamon is a subroutine that's basically just logging and noting
haughty rover
You know atlas asked to scan its creator dont ya
mighty rampart
...yes
haughty rover
Maybe the creator is dying and not atlas 🤔
mighty rampart
highly possible
but there's also some stuff that doesnt add up
like how it was predicted that in the 10th minute of the Atlas' remaining life, travellers will be able to see and meet each other
so the Atlas is legitimately breaking down
wind panther
My meta view is that the Earth was abandoned by humans long ago, but the computers kept running, but as the world is changing, sea levels are rising and flooding the facility, leading to corruption (Abyss) and eventually failure in 16 minutes
mighty rampart
Abyss seems more than just corruption at this point
unless all these shenanigans were done by the Atlas all along
as in the weekend missions
haughty rover
The atlas has a split personality 😆
wind panther
Yeah the latest weekend stuff I haven't fit into the picture yet
mighty rampart
and its making a backup of the world by having travellers give it resources found on the planet into the rift
which have the necessary code
wind panther
There was one line that I remember seeing about 'upload' imminent, making me think that is how they are going to explain a new expansion, uploading the entire simulation to a new host
gloomy isle
Maybe abyss is a virus
wind panther
Which? The three? For some reason the simulation always ends up with those three
haughty rover
Do u think the gek could of been corrupt. The kovarx where there anti viruses. Then the vaykree where made to fight the sentinels
wind panther
There's definitely something about hirk knowing more than he should about the sentinels
mighty rampart
speaking of
SCENARIO: Lifeform designates ‘Vy’keen’ (2) approach the INSTANTIATION [‘Great Monolith’].
Silence / Acceptance of [-------] / Schism [Quasi-====] / Korvax [Eradication/Enslavement]. Vy’keen war emerges where individuals ‘Hirk’ and ‘Nal’ believe the other to have heard nothing. Repeated imagery of ‘six cries’.
ANALYSIS: Scenario involves murder of ally and culture becoming obsessed with destruction of artificial intelligence [Cautionary].
Semi-survival/retrieval of entity ‘Nal’ shows further instance of self-doubt by [-------]. Troubling factor: repeated pattern of [-------] silence and self-mythicization.```Gek where corrupt as fuck. Then the kovarx cured them basically
mighty rampart
Semi-survival of Nal
wind panther
Atlas: "am I God? Let me test these variables to find out."
mighty rampart
Skullbits have you read the lore page in the wiki
haughty rover
Theses languages are just programming speech
mighty rampart
well yeah Atlas is a program after all
wind panther
The next expansion will introduce the Regex race
mighty rampart
and this being a simulation of conflict scenarios
mighty rampart
of course
the sentinels just straight up showed at their territory with no warning
haughty rover
🤔 maybe. They are the rogue sentinels and they where fighting the ones atlas controls
wind panther
Most individuals don't have a clue what Atlas is. They just know some myths and know about sentinels
mighty rampart
None hamper the path towards Dryn'dargh as The Sentinels. They must be destroyed. Their time will be ended. So has it been written, so it shall come to be. This the Vy'keen swear. The Sentinels are not of the natural order. Things must fall apart. In their endlessness and replication the automatons prove themselves abominations. They must be purged from existence. All should die, whether through righteous battle or the assault of time.
haughty rover
Vykree are the only ones allowed weapons I think
balmy nimbus
Archetyps and causality
mighty rampart
the Gek were invading the known universe from the edges to the centre until the sentinels suddenly showed up and messed their plans
balmy nimbus
Could they do something else?
wind panther
The sentinels are a metaphor for crappy Hello Games coding. "We need to fix th at marauding empire. Delete civilization."
mighty rampart
which is interesting as the sentinels showed signs of intelligence
and uh even compassion at times
tawdry mica
That one was said to scream when null split it open
mighty rampart
that's null in the abandoned stations?
because there's a lot of "we" in those texts
haughty rover
So many possibilities
idle jay
Might have been null and some other travellers
and its making a backup of the world by having travellers give it resources found on the planet into the rift
@mighty rampart This...actually sounds very logical and seems like a very real possibility
crisp fern
mighty rampart
idle jay
This line though...
mighty rampart
eh I think its the usual "oh no we are in grave danger" sort of lines
although the rest of the travellers are missing
idle jay
Yep. But it could still end up leading to something
severe sun
"Fixed an issue that accidentally removed NPC's from the Nexus" < HG, tomorrow, probably
idle jay
Like the rest of them disappearing. Going there separate ways
The only ones left being Nada and Polo
mighty rampart
lel well they are intentionally missing considering Tethys blatantly acknowledges that
severe sun
I just hope it's coming to some kind of a conclusion
I like the idea of the weekend missions
idle jay
Yeah but we don't why they are missing
severe sun
But if I have to go farming space potatoes again I might just go crazy
waxen garnet
Everyone comes back, the abyss is defeated thanks to an albumen enriched pulpy roots bomb and we unlock the final qs items that was hidden all along
Fireworks to celebrate
crisp fern
I can't stand the weekend missions as they are. I think this is the second time I've done one, and it's the same basic thing as before.
Even takes about the same amount of time when done in creative, lol
waxen garnet
The only satisfying outcome would be a total universe reset.
The missions are an excuse to shove the lore down the throats of new players and introducing the whole concept of a "reset" to them.
At least I'd do it that way.
One can only hope.
idle jay
Yep. As long as said reset has big changes behind it and isn't there just to be there
waxen garnet
Come for the quicksilver.
Stay for the update.
severe sun
I don't know if a reset is likely now, because they added support for multiple procedural generation algorithms in the last update, right?
waxen garnet
And also, screw your bases.
severe sun
So they can update the worldbuilding for new stuff without affecting old stuff
waxen garnet
And your generic lush planet.
Yeah.
Apparently, the game can support more "rules" outside of biomes weighting, now.
Across galaxys I mean.
severe sun
So if they wanted to do a "reset" they could just apply it to unexplored systems
which is good
waxen garnet
No.
slender idol
doesnt work like that
crisp fern
I don't know if a reset is likely now, because they added support for multiple procedural generation algorithms in the last update, right?
@severe sun ...what are you talking about here...?
slender idol
They have multiple galaxies
they should just start a new Euclid, a Neuclid, each time there are breaking changes.
so new players spawn with the new experience, but old players keep the terrain gen they expect
waxen garnet
I believe they can reseed each galaxy independently, now.
slender idol
turn the center into more of a lobby, a galaxy selector,
waxen garnet
At least it has been said after datamining.
slender idol
and people can choose as, and when, they want to migrate to the new content
mighty rampart
RIP non euclid hubs if they do it
crisp fern
I believe they can reseed each galaxy independently, now.
@waxen garnet based on...?
waxen garnet
Haven't looked into it yet.
slender idol
Or, in the case of a galaxy that has the 1.0 terrain gen and shaders, go and visit old content.
Cuz I'd go and explore the @#$ out of a 1.0 styled galaxy
waxen garnet
Also, the fauna will support seeds, now.
mighty rampart
mighty rampart
anyway gn
crisp fern
@mighty rampart thanks, was just about to ask around in the modding server, lol
severe sun
@crisp fern that's it, sohail found it faster than me. galaxies are currently restricted to 255, but, the reality index isn't, necessarily. they could use this change to vary things on a per planet basis. e.g. 0 could be euclid, old proc gen, 255 euclid, prog gen A, 511 euclid, proc gen B...
The groundwork is there... just remains to be seen what they actually do with it
crisp fern
yeah and the reason they didn't do that sooner is because maintaining multiple sets of proc-gen parameters for galaxies & such is a headache, so unless they've found some way to make it less of a headache, can't say I'd bank on it
severe sun
Depends how drastic the changes are
Could even be part of a phased approach too. Maybe in a years time the weekend events will have us investigating why old planets are "disappearing"
We have to face the likelihood that next year will see the end of development as well, so maintenance wouldn't be a concern
craggy sluice
@crisp fern that's it, sohail found it faster than me. galaxies are currently restricted to 255, but, the reality index isn't, necessarily. they could use this change to vary things on a per planet basis. e.g. 0 could be euclid, old proc gen, 255 euclid, prog gen A, 511 euclid, proc gen B...
@severe sun does this mean that more than 255 galaxies is possible?
Also does this mean that the whole universe doesn't depend on a single master seed now but rather on each galaxies having their own seeds?
So I can create my own galaxy now? 👀
upper void
im so confused, did HG change something with how galaxies work?
severe sun
Not yet
But they put the groundwork in so it could be done
PC birthday on Wednesday so who knows!
opaque pebble
Im trying my damnedest to understand all that lore talk up there
idle jay
This is actually really interesting
uncut harness
is there somewhere that's been documenting this current series of events? like a wiki or something?
idle jay
Doing the proc gen this way would honestly be a good solution. People wouldn't need to worry about their bases getting ruined, explorers get the variety overhaul. It's a win-win
craggy sluice
Exactly. This is the best solution
idle jay
Now some may say, "But what about Eissentam?" Well that would still be taken care of. That algorithm would just be left the same just like Euclid, with it being the second most populated galaxy
craggy sluice
And I can create my own galaxy? Please make the ending of Atlas Path actually let us generate our own galaxies HG
Now some may say, "But what about Eissentam?" Well that would still be taken care of. That algorithm would just be left the same just like Euclid, with it being the second most populated galaxy
@idle jay and other galaxies for that matter up to the 255th one. People already established some sort of settlements there. If it is true that galaxies can exceed 255, then the variation can happen after 255 or some galaxies that are completely untouched yet
idle jay
But then how would people be able to reach them in a way that doesn't involve piggybacking off of other travellers. It would take forever with current ways available
There needs to be a gameplay thing that allows people to get there easily
craggy sluice
Like what @slender idol has mentioned earlier, turn the center into some sort of lobby where you choose or generate which galaxy to go to
This actually gives incentive to going to the center
idle jay
Hmm yes. That would be a good solution
It would require reworking the ending however which im fine with
The ending still should feel special you know?
craggy sluice
Yeah it should feel like such an achievement with a great reward especially for explorers
And the multiple realities, dimensions, universes are already in the lore anyway. Why not access them
compact coyote
Do you think Tethys has anything to do with them missing?
crisp fern
And I can create my own galaxy? Please make the ending of Atlas Path actually let us generate our own galaxies HG
@craggy sluice it was only ever about star systems tho not galaxies
Also so we're all on the same page, this is what Monkeyman noticed:
the "Reality Index" (ie. what galaxy you are in) is now provided to the algorithm that determines what stuff is on a planet
[...]
yeah, or certain parameters may be affected by galaxy you are in
(all conjecture of course) haha
barren vessel
Maybe Tethys know something. Maybe Tethys can disappear too
Who knows 😀
crisp fern
From the rough sounds of it, this may not be to do with terrain gen, but object placement on planets...Would have to poke Monkeyman and see if they ever checked further into it.
compact coyote
this is exiting stuff you guys are talking about. Hope HG is listening
severe sun
lolno
In genral, listening to most of what a gaming community says is a terrible idea
NMS in particular suffers from having too many ideas
And not enough time spent on each idea
mental socket
I agree
proud gale
What are the some of the remaining quicksilver items, if there are any? Just wondering when tier 3 would possibly unlock.
craggy sluice
And not enough time spent on each idea
@severe sun I think SC is the one that suffers the most from this
severe sun
@proud gale all of them are bobbleheads right now iirc
spice gorge
I do think, at this point, another update is coming soon. But did hope for one around the birthday.
upper void
I find it very suspicious that Sean tweeted nothing on NMS birthday
does he always do that?
stuck hinge
🥺
proud gale
@severe sun I meant future ones. Cuz if the current bubbleheads are the last reward in the files, that means an update is coming. The tiers have been pretty suspiciously slow at unlocking for this reward cycle, it seems like they will end next weekend at most. oOOOOOOooooooOOOO there is still the PC launch anniversary this wednesday ya knowwww
*By "an update is coming" I meant any update, not somehing large. Hope to see experimental published
stuck hinge
kindred oracle
Interesting.. travelling to a new galaxy seems to have reactivated the 'recover atlas seeds' part of the atlas path ,which i've already long done
compact coyote
Yeah sean has sead nothing today. very suspicious
Theres obviously something behind that silence
idle jay
It is also Sunday for them so they wouldn’t be going to work today
mighty rampart
and again for the nth time
they never directly acknowledge game anniversaries
its either them pushing a big update or just talking about something unrelated
idle jay
Eh it was nice to hope for something
mighty rampart
well
idle jay
Though I get the feeling we would see something soon. Not tied to the anniversary or anything, but something. Most likely going to be small
mighty rampart
there's a difference between saying "I hope they say something" and "why havent they said anything"
idle jay
I was the former in this case
mighty rampart
Yeah sean has sead nothing today. very suspicious
I meant to reply to this, not you
idle jay
Yeah
A lot of people thinking it’s weird he is not responding on a day off
I get why they would expect something but I don’t think anyone from HG would really think about that stuff when they are trying to enjoy the weekend
vocal flame
I got to the decision about Artemis today... I didn't want to get hit in the feels THAT hard
wanton path
opaque pebble
I got to the decision about Artemis today... I didn't want to get hit in the feels THAT hard
i bawled like a baby when i made that choice
sharp egret
!whatsnew
uncut harness
nothing much, you?
severe sun
Today? Sean tweeted an image with an ominous gap in it.
Maybe an update soon, maybe not.
willow stirrup
That wasn't ominous. That was well calculated 😂
compact coyote
sean is acting sus rn
nocturne zephyr
pls
crisp fern
game lacks so much intrigue for some they read too much into anything from devs
idle jay
Yep
severe sun
I'm all up for a good hype train but the evidence so far of an impending update is that the number of updates so far is an odd number
idle jay
That's a very loose string to go off of
patent shale
i mean
idle jay
Like going off of a tiny little strand
severe sun
Oh he retweeeted people? why didn;t you say 🙄
patent shale
okay you can thing there isnt an update
i will happily bet £20
because this is prime sean
seriously think logically here, he does this every year exactly the same and thanks us
he left a gap
idle jay
I know there's going to be an update. But going off of the fact that there is an odd number of updates out is not the most logical
idle jay
I get what your saying though
patent shale
that anyone with a brain in design wouldnt make aposter like that
severe sun
Yama we understand you we just don't agree
idle jay
But yes as I said there is going to be an update
patent shale
he also liked this
idle jay
There's no way there wouldn't be
compact coyote
whenever sean does soemthing sus, its an update. weve seen this many times
patent shale
^
idle jay
Yep
severe sun
You mean like the desolation trailer glyphs?
There's probably an update coming, but the people describing it as confirmed based on an empty box are nuts
idle jay
Yep
timid mist
I'm not using the tweets, I'm just using the development update from after Desolation dropped
idle jay
Confirmed update. Just weird evidence basically
patent shale
adamb that was a completely different scenario
idle jay
That's what I've been doing to Zoid
timid mist
We know there will be something before the end of the year, but people thinking it's confirmed for this week because he tweeted some stuff are stretching it lol
patent shale
i think he will announce it this week
like genuinly because this happens all the time
timid mist
I wouldn't be upset if you were right but I think it'll be longer
idle jay
I get the feeling he will bring up something within the next few weeks
severe sun
@timid mist I wasn't sure what to make of the desolation developer update. "Several more significant updates" is a very aggressive schedule, unless they consider "Desolation" to be significant
compact coyote
desolation was the best update of the year so far or since beyond
idle jay
Going off of what he did with Desolation then it seems to possibly be suggesting that something will be announced soon
severe sun
Or have a crapload of content staged
timid mist
I mean Iw ould consider it to be significant
It added an entirely new system for generating procedural dungeons
severe sun
compared to e.g. beyond it's not significant though
idk
too much vague handwaving, not enough concrete info
timid mist
I mean Beyond/NEXT/AR were massive, it can be significant without being essentially an overhaul
severe sun
At this point the game has paid for itself, so I'm not going to be unhappy regardless of what happens
timid mist
Also important to note the difference between significatn development effort vs significant gameplay changes
patent shale
Twitter
this was tweeted at 1.25 pm
the update was revealed as beyond later that day
this is what he does
happened with next
happened with ar
timid mist
He did the same thing with desolation and the announcement was a week later
timid mist
He also has already posted this image that everyone is freaking out about, just with one less update on it
severe sun
He did the same thing with the original release and it took 2 years for it to be true 😄
timid mist
Yes that is a different tweet lmao
compact coyote
Desolation has the best logo design out of the 3 ngl
timid mist
He tweeted the image of all the updates in April, no update to follow.
Then he retweeted gothalion saying "what are you hiding" (literally exavtly what he just did) early July, and a week later Desolation was announced
I agree something is going to happen I just feel like people commit way too hard to "definitely this week", though I would obviously love that.
But then people get mad at Sean (???) for literally using his twitter account lol, like him replying to people is somehow this massive horrible thing. It's lame.
compact coyote
what do you think the alleged anniversary update will be called?
meager stag
Hahaha damn just saw the tweets/retweets
crisp fern
it's definitely happening somewhere between the next 24 hours and a month
meager stag
Well played Sean
timid mist
Leon's got it
idle jay
What Leon said
severe sun
I'd be surprised if it was this week, given that there's still a whole bunch of changes on experimental, console hasn't even seen 2.61.1
meager stag
No Man's Sky: Anniversary would be great
timid mist
Yeah same adamb
meager stag
Also does that image imply last big update 👀
timid mist
I don't think so, would've been weird to crop it another way
severe sun
No, it implies there have been 11 updates
sand karma
I agree something is going to happen I just feel like people commit way too hard to "definitely this week", though I would obviously love that.
Yeah this about sums it up 😄
idle jay
Possibly a patch with a note on the end saying they have something big planned. Possibly a teaser for the next update. Who knows
meager stag
Yeah more than likely... but gets me thinking, how much more support does this game have left in it?
crisp fern
speaking of, i thought experimental had already fixed object blocking corridor bug in derelict freighters but apparently we only just got that fix 😮
idle jay
People are just antsy right now. Can't really help that
timid mist
Maybe Sean will post a sticky note with a drawing of a Gek on it, and that Gek is holding a datapad with the release date but you can only read it in the reflection of the Gek's eyes, but the Gek has its eyes closed
severe sun
@crisp fern we did... second fix might be properly fixing the object geometry, I've not looked
idle jay
Maybe Sean will post a sticky note with a drawing of a Gek on it, and that Gek is holding a datapad with the release date but you can only read it in the reflection of the Gek's eyes, but the Gek has its eyes closed
@timid mist That would be such a clever way to do it
timid mist
truly revolutionary
crisp fern
@severe sun reviewing the notes, it appears it was fixing a different obstruction related issue earlier
idle jay
Then people try to track down that exact Gek to see if there is a reflection
timid mist
yeah seemed like slightly different issues
I think there were some people complaining about an object blocking them and others were just saying they couldn't progress because there was a barrier or something, though I sorta thought the barrier was the invisible object
severe sun
@meager stag my feeling is we're probably into the last year of updates. Xbox release was a bit ago, a year of updates is fairly typical for a game
Unless you're ubisoft, and it's 6 months
compact coyote
a lot of people were thinking No Mans Sky: journey
sand karma
I think Journey would be a nice one to cap off the updates, yeah
warped ember
does anyone have the link to the data mined weekend mission texts?
warped ember
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timid mist
Believe the last one will happen the weekend of sept 24th
stuck hinge
bUt 4cHaN LEek 
mental socket
sean liked this one
hmm... so one more patch to go?
well, pulp fiction was cheap entertainment for general masses according to google
so... what if there is only one more small generic patch to go before the big one?
hopeful speculation...
stuck hinge
When doe
timid mist
you are really stretching lol
don't read into the specific words and definitions of words on a tweet
idle jay
I doubt it would be the last ever patch but if a big update does come this year then it would likely be the last update of that size
willow stirrup
Last update of that size this year 😛
timid mist
well the pulp reference was just because Sean had always said they wanted to recreate old scifi covers, had nothing to do with "appealing to the general masses" or something. They've done all of their updates as scifi art covers. "One more" is probably just meant to relate to them filling in the one missing section in the image lol, not "last update"
idle jay
^
willow stirrup
Yep, they add more just like last time 😂
stuck hinge
🤓☝️ Uh actually
crisp fern
ackshullly
crisp fern
I think there were some people complaining about an object blocking them and others were just saying they couldn't progress because there was a barrier or something, though I sorta thought the barrier was the invisible object
@timid mist delayed response but yeah this was my thinking too
uncut harness
One was a spinning microwave thing, the other was a invisible wall.
timid mist
I did encounter the spinning scope once, thankfully in the middle of a room
crisp fern
I encountered it twice in what i like to think were dead end corridors
Well, one I know was, not sure about the first
last anchor
Sean tweeted something
Retweeted something about corner of pic compiling update art being empty
stuck hinge
tawdry tusk
ah shit, here we go again
also, this could just be part of the background that the entire pic is based on, but doesn't the empty corner look like it has a blurred image in it? it's probably too early to tell, but it sorta reminds me of the color schemes of some of the images seen in the static of the desolation trailer.
timid mist
It's just a background, they used the same background in a previous tweet without desolation in it
here's the reference. you can try to say the other blurred spot is desolation but it is 1) not int eh right position, and 2) not a blurred version of the desolation poster
tawdry tusk
ah ok
subtle gorge
i mean here especially
tawdry tusk
come to think of it, the blurred spot looks a lot more like a blurred version of the exomech picture in both pics
timid mist
Yeah I think it's actually a visual effect
Because the left hand side is a blurred extension of the living ship trail
subtle gorge
ye
severe sun
Anyone ever think maybe game developers would be more forthcoming with information if the community weren't so unhinged?
timid mist
Probably. Gaming communities are really often toxic when they don't hear what they want to hear. I'd be afraid to be open too.
crisp fern
also HG tried the be open thing and we saw how that went for them
stuck hinge
🤓☝️ Uh actually
rough copper
If there is an anniversary update, I will kill myself... in game, and start a new game.
severe sun
Ohno, there's no way I'm grinding my way to a billion ferrite to rebuild my mansion
stuck hinge
Just buy it
severe sun
Or grind the credits. One full playthrough in my lifetime is enough
Unless a future update does a NG+ kind of deal
nocturne zephyr
welcome back sanser
it's been 85 years
with no major exploration update
check back here next year
better luck next time
rough copper
womp womp
Also I've mostly been here the whole time, just mad covid drunk so I don't post much
nocturne zephyr
ooch
rough copper
haven't had covid, been tested 8 times because work lol, I just mean straight up drunk
I'm very happy with the lighting changes desolation brought
rough copper
full body in vr is pretty awesome too!
rigid finch
sweet hinge
questions. ive got three options for the main missions. locate the final portal, reach the black hole, and reset the simulation. if i dont want to go to the next galaxy, which path do i take?
gloomy echo
This conversation seems less like spoilers and more like admission of an alcoholic..... lol
sweet hinge
i wanna stay in Euclid haha
tawdry tusk
@sweet hinge you can choose to simply not reset when prompted to
tawdry tusk
what do you mean by "prompts"?
sweet hinge
like
when i start the game, it will be "reach the black hole" or "locate the final portal"
tawdry tusk
i think so yeah
it's been a long while since i've last completed the story
i think it's just a vague prompt like "explore as you see fit"
tawdry tusk
unless you have one of the other side missions selected
rough copper
@gloomy echo 
