water horizon please be gone
@mighty rampart the most annoying for me
#nms-spoilers
wanton path
mighty rampart
and they tried to fix that twice already
cursive kernel
Damn
mighty rampart
not to mention the DOZENS of times they tried to fix refiners
cursive kernel
Also water horizon??
mighty rampart
this
it tries to load silhouettes of structures that are too far that they shouldnt even be rendered
cursive kernel
Oh
grizzled apex
@uncut harness thanks so much for the glyphs! I have a theory. If I find something related to it I'll share more
uncut harness
@grizzled apex No problem. As for theory: || 10 symbols from glyph investigation corresponding to 10 weekly events before update ?? ||
grizzled apex
@uncut harness ||Yes. And another interesting coincidence? We get an update about lost freighters in the darkness after we find ariadne's ship||
mighty rampart
🤔
grizzled apex
||which also mentioned such a freighter||
uncut harness
I like this idea
Damn, I wish I had glyphs to other event sides before that, I didnt make the pictures
I just happen to have these cause I found a trading outpost when I was looking for a save point
Thought since it was a wealthy economy I might get some pictures of nice ships
cursive kernel
Before this ship's reality-splinter, it came into contact with a strange, vast freighter in the darkness between suns.
uncut harness
Yeah, that would fit the theme of derelic freighters perfectly
cursive kernel
I was thinking more of the darkness in destiny but ok
uncut harness
How many of these events had we?
cursive kernel
At least 1
uncut harness
1 was on a blue grass planet (not 1 as in the first, but the one I know of) - I have glyphs for this one
2 was hunting for hexa bushes
3 was on a chromatic red filter planet, when we first heard of Abyss from a monolith
4 was hunting tall eggs for holo tower
5 was Ariadne's ship - we got glyphs
6 was Asteria's grave
7 was the recent crashed freighter
uncut harness
Yup and it was a pain in the arscheloch
Anyway, back on topis
So I'd say we got 5 events
astral karma
wait I remember 3
that was the only event I did
planet surface was black and sky was BRIGHT red, right?
astral karma
YEA, I remember hitting the portal and thinking "BRUH THIS PLANET IS BEAUTIFUL...and edgy as hell"
thanks for the nostalgia c:
astral karma
lol wat
uncut harness
Self-rant, disregard
astral karma
ah
uncut harness
Would the 1st glyph correspond to a monolith shape?
cursive kernel
How long ago was that one yellow lush planet where we needed albdumen pearls
uncut harness
As in, rectangular with a dot for energy orb in the middle
@cursive kernel I don't recall yellow lush planet, I think it was blue
I was pissed because I was looking for Humming Sacs to get pearls instead of Sentient Plants
cursive kernel
uncut harness
I spend a good hour finding nothing
Nope, doesn't ring a bell
@grizzled apex Any ideas?
grizzled apex
@uncut harness
Checked the derelict dye to the weekend description of that event
Nothing new or out of the ordinary
Greg buchanan is doing some game writing this Sunday
idle jay
Yeah I think with the stuff going on with the game currently it's most likely for this
grizzled apex
I'm excited! The weekend mission lore was done so if its NMS then its defo for an update!
astral karma
conspiracy theory: two updates, back to fucking back, one week apart
uncut harness
insert parkour meme here
idle jay
Yeah
snow stream
Dont you mean Seananigans
idle jay
We like to hope though
astral karma
here, lemme sweeten this conspiracy
grizzled apex
Go on
cosmic stag
if we see another update, it'd be nice to have some optimising and extra options for VR.
head-based locomotion, making the game run a little smoother when loading into new areas/generating stuff, ect.
idle jay
Anyway so starting with Desolation what if it is part of the big update and we get bits of it each week/month. Just a crackpot theory though
grizzled apex
Just realized that desolation was teased by the weekend missions somewhat
astral karma
that actually seems like a solid theory Star, with Week 1 for release, 3 weeks bugfixing, and the following month push something else
but that might soak development efficiency
edited to not stoke the fires of hype
idle jay
For all we know they could already have all the content nearly finished but want to release bits at a time
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fallow badge
I think the World of Glass is the circuitry of Atlas itself
a sort of literal border between reality and simulation
atlas, emily, w/e the big computer simulating it all is called
mighty rampart
ya but its interesting that all the NPCs know that it exists
common knowledge that even a child knows
fallow badge
kinda like death
mighty rampart
yeah
fallow badge
in that log he freak out once he fully comprehends it
plus is has ties to the 16 minutes remaining
fallow badge
I think I know what you're refering too
mighty rampart
and wanted to be with him in the final moments
ah ok
yeah I figured there wouldnt be THAT many stories
and most of the random gen might be in those more inconsequential logs
fallow badge
im guessing it procedually strings them together from a source
sand karma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QP9OkAih_U really good review on why Desolation is super important to the future of the game. 😄
mighty rampart
I also have the exact same thoughts on this update that he does in the vid
sand karma
Yeah def makes a lot of valid points
mighty rampart
they should have done this with all the updates since 2.0
or at least, with 2.3/2.4
sand karma
Well I am glad we are here now 😄
sand karma
Hope we don't need to wait until 3.6 for planet horror 😄
mighty rampart
tru
although planet horror already exists in the form of abandoned outposts but yeah its super lackluster
mighty rampart
the drones in the freighters?
uncut harness
These ones too. They work with each other as a group.
mighty rampart
oh those are the old corrupted sentinels
just that for this mission you have a bunch spawning on you
uncut harness
Before they kind of just ignored each other but now they work together as a whole rather than a single.
mighty rampart
🤔
uncut harness
Even the normal sentinels work as a group now.
mighty rampart
what do you mean "as a group"
uncut harness
Before they didn't really know that there was other sentinels near them. Now they actively flank you and surround you from all possible positions.
mighty rampart
but they did that since ever
uncut harness
So one sentinel can be attacking you from the front and others will surround you and not fight from the front.
mighty rampart
🤔 pretty sure that has always been the case
uncut harness
Oh? I didn't notice if so.
mighty rampart
the new thing (that isnt working right now) is that they spawn more of them each wave
gloomy isle
They're definitely not as tanky
uncut harness
Hum. Maybe I'm noticing something that has always been there in that case. Before I could fight them easy but now it's not so straight forward.
mighty rampart
ya they dropped their health
that one is working
but they always worked together, the two armored sentinels would always attempt to flank you from two sides either by both being in front of you or one of them will go more towards your back
onyx prairie
The sentinels also heal the other units
mighty rampart
also old
they keep healing the quads/walkers
that's why I would always kill the drones before attacking the other two
mighty rampart
I suppose that once they patch that in properly, the number of sentinel drones spawned in the 3rd wave onwards would be higher
if I had to guess, it will be 4 drones in the third, 6 in the fourth and 8 in the fifth
that's how I'd do it anyway to compensate for their drop in health
gloomy isle
I still find it odd that there's no controller rumble when you fire your weapons
Makes it feel kinda odd
I didn't either until I came back after replaying halo 2
cursive kernel
Halo 2 good
gloomy isle
I hope really infinite is good, especially after 5
gloomy isle
Yeah definitely. It's just the story was... Well
It threw away literally everything from 4
gloomy isle
Idk... Reach was good. 4 had a decent story but bad mp. Didn't like 5. I'd agree that it's declined though
The only one I really dislike is 5
astral karma
I was top 200 in ladder rank on Halo 3
(note: on Team Snipers)
xbox got stolen, and when I got another Reach and ODST had released
gloomy isle
Excited for infinite?
gloomy isle
H4 was way too CoD like yeah
astral karma
haven't seen anything at all for Infinite yet, feel free to DM me links to trailers/content about it
gloomy isle
Yeah sure
subtle gorge
i like how in third person during the scatter blaster's firing animation the player hand moves up as if it's reacting to kickback, but the multitool doesn't move at all lel
prime inlet
@true solstice https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Starbirth#Soul_Chamber
true solstice
Thanks
prime inlet
gloomy isle
Do I need all 16 glyphs for the living ship quest?
prime inlet
you need the glyphs required for the 12 glyph address for the last stage of the mission, like explained in the link i posted
haughty rover
Her umm I got the LS she'll once it matures will I finally get my ship?
gloomy isle
@haughty rover there's one more part, and after that is the last step
So one more wait after the one you're at I think
haughty rover
Ah OK thanks
Wow destroyed space sta2
Station
And game crashed
Have they been in the game for awhile now?
gloomy isle
Yeah since next I think
haughty rover
Dang 1st time seeing one
acoustic yacht
I've been running the boundary failures because I realized I had never done it. Man, Telamon is unhinged
And wonderfully fourth wall breaking
haughty rover
OK got cords for atlas station and its only showing me 5 jumps at a time where it is..
acoustic yacht
If you jump closer the path will update, or if you can make the jump the system is highlighted, just pan the map in that direction
haughty rover
Can't even see it
acoustic yacht
Just jump along the path then, warp cores are cheap yo
haughty rover
I've been doing that for 40 mins now
acoustic yacht
That...doesn't seem right
Are you sure you have the correct path selected on the galactic map? You didn't accidentally switch it back to Center did you?
haughty rover
And it's only doing 4 jumps at a time. I have the correct path yea
acoustic yacht
I'd pull the Anomaly in and ask Polo for another set of coords
You shouldn't ever be too far from an Atlas interface
haughty rover
I've completed the story for em. Aswell
acoustic yacht
Yeah you can always get the closet Atlas interface and black hole from Polo now though. Used to be Nada but that changed when they did the Nexus
true solstice
Are there jumpscares in the freighters
sand karma
I was today years old when I realized I could also follow my 'broken' frigate while on its mission path and repair it there. 😛
First attempt it jumped right as I approached tho, but I honestly never tried that in all those years.
uncut harness
@true solstice I did a few freighters and had no jumpscares
The enemies are either stationary turrets that scan some area which you can just avoid
true solstice
And how dirrerent were they rrom each other? @uncut harness
uncut harness
Or those new monsters that sit in their nest, as long as you don't walk too fast near them you're good
Quite different, some had just 8 rooms and no monster, some 12 and had monsters
The loot from crates was diverse too
upper void
All 3 derilects ive found have been named "SS Hiros Hammer" and all had the same crew
all 3 have been in different systems as well
uncut harness
1 system has 1 derelict freighter model
Oh, you sure you were in different systems?
upper void
The actual interiors are different and the logs have different stories, they are in different systems, but they always have the same exterior, the same name, and the same crew
I might try flying to a base like halfway across the galaxy to see if it will change then
gloomy echo
X files... do do do do do do do lol
sand karma
Oh yeah no real jump scares. I scare easily and I'm fine doing them 😄
mental socket
@upper void exterior is always the same sadly
upper void
ah
Still interesting that the name and crew names havent changed
While the story and interiors have
sand karma
Yeah exterior is always the same. Crew names might be terrible RNG. 😄
true solstice
My first one didnt have that name
haughty rover
Is it normal to keep getting atlas cords without speaking to polo?
ember grotto
does you restart all the quests after get in the new galaxy?
open canyon
seems like it yea
heavy glacier
@hardy sand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyWrUjvjUcM here is a video you can use if you are lost
can stop once you get to the part you're stuck on if you don't want to be spoiled
actually never mind
it doesn't do a good job explaining the portal stuff
@hardy sand have you used portals before?
hardy sand
once, for a quicksilver event
heavy glacier
right, but not aside from those events?
hardy sand
nope
heavy glacier
okay
so i'll make a tiny guide on how to find one manually
- Find a monolith somehow (can find them with exocraft scanners or I think planetary charts)
- Complete the dialogue at the monolith, then interact with it again. It will give you the option to locate a portal
- At the portal you'll need to charge the terminal (will make sense when you find one). Then it will allow you to enter coordinates
- Use this guide:
The Star Over Water 
The Hunter 
The Reflection 
The Ancient Giant 
Obscured Companion 
The Ascending Orb 
The Sailor 
The Lowly Insect 
?? 
The Spiral of Reality 
The Anomaly 
The Ocean King 
?? 
The Vessel To Beyond 
?? 
??
To decode the mission log entry into the correct coordinates to enter into the portal terminal
Enter those into the portal terminal and it will activate and bring you to the correct planet
hardy sand
so, what does euclid mean?
heavy glacier
so for your mission, the correct coordinates would be
Euclid is the galaxy you're in, not important since I'm assuming you haven't gotten to the center yet
sorry, to better explain, you are supposed to enter those coordinates in Euclid. But you're in Euclid so it's not relevant
sorry for the wall of text, hope this helps a little bit
hardy sand
don't be, i really appreciate this!
heavy glacier
great! if you have more questions please ping me, happy to help
hardy sand
i don't got any glyphs. i'm gonna go ahead and look for travelers.
heavy glacier
you can do that or complete the artemis storyline
hardy sand
the artemis storyline gives me the glyphs?
heavy glacier
yeah but it's fairly far in
hardy sand
well, i'll start it up and start grinding it out
heavy glacier
have fun, and good luck
hardy sand
man, i really love this game, and how everything seems to tie together like this. now, to figure out what this game's story is.
vestal prism
Also. Here’s a tip. Do the atlas Path in conjunction with Artemis. Otherwise you’ll have to do one after the other.
heavy glacier
yeah doing the atlas path uring the section of artemis when you have to warp a lot is a really good way to play it out
gloomy isle
I love the new derelicts. They give you the story in pieces that fit together really well
In mine there was some shady stuff involving experiments and parasites that only the captain knew about. The top floor was all crew quarters stuff, but below was like 3 layers of labs all with the horrors in tanks
And it mentions large portions of the freighter being restricted
pastel falcon
has there been any datamining since 2.6?
strong bluff
I had it similar, only that instead of experiments (which I had in first one, and there it later broke out and killed everybody - resulted in alien nests being everywhere) I had an artifact. And captain, when crew found it out, murdered everybody.
vestal prism
I kept getting entries about a 'Garden'.There was also an entry about a Korvax somehow ending up in an organic body? Somehow?
mental socket
@pastel falcon Yup. There has. Modders have found things like summonable pets, zero gravity stuff and planet generation being tied to the universe index you're in
You should check #nms-modding
strong bluff
Only Korvax experiment I know is a Living ship one.
And then in one random conversation with Korvax NPC (in buildings on planets) you can have an event where it puts a helmet on you and tries to connect you to the Convergence.
In my case, my 🧠 wasn´t ready for it.
I had options of think about exploration, something else or relax my mind.
I chose to think about everything I have found previously.
And it almost melted my 🧠 .
craggy sluice
@pastel falcon Yup. There has. Modders have found things like summonable pets, zero gravity stuff and planet generation being tied to the universe index you're in
@mental socket planet generation tied to the universe index? What does this mean? Aren't planet gen tied to a single master seed?
craggy sluice
Yeah I heard that before launch they used a mobile number of one of their employees as the masterseed
gloomy isle
I mean, galaxy number can change biome count
So it's not that far of a reach to think that influence might get expanded
strong bluff
True is that there are some games which instead of seeds use other means to generate stuff. 🤔
craggy sluice
What do they mean by Universe Index? Is it a term they use for Galaxy Index? Or are they different? Because obv an entire universe is different from a galaxy
mental socket
Like. It's the reality index. So I assume Euclid is 1 and the next one is 2 etc.
Currently the galaxy reality index is tied to the proc gen or something
Ask the modders. I don't know the specifics
craggy sluice
Hmmm so this means that rather from the master seed, the planet generation depends on the seed/index of the galaxy?
gloomy isle
I'm pretty sure it means there's stuff in place that allows generation (in terms of asset placement and terrain types and stuff) to change depending on what galaxy you're in
mental socket
yup
craggy sluice
Does this mean that it is now possible for them to reset just a single galaxy, without any change in others?
heavy glacier
the seed for the generation is a 32 bit value, so 16 hex values. 4 of them are for the universe index I believe and the other 12 have to do with your specific location, i.e. planet, location on that planet, etc.
sorry, not 16 hex values
also it's actually 64 bit i think
nocturne zephyr
damn that'd be sooo cool if they could leave Euclid the same and reset another, gives us more incentive to travel between galaxies
heavy glacier
but yeah I there's portions of the seed that correspond to your location in space
I don't know how possibelt hat would be, depends on how they use the seed
but they do change planet spawn types based on the galaxy so maybe
nocturne zephyr
and less chance of upsetting all the builders
they could choose a galaxy a very small percentage of players have been to
craggy sluice
Yeah that's the best solution for a "reset" while minimizing casualties
heavy glacier
to expand on what I was saying before (sorry to interrupt, just want to correct myself more), it's a 64 bit seed, with each portal coord representing 4 bits each. The first 16 bits of the address (i think) are universe index, the last 48 are more specific location info within that universe/galaxy. that's why portals only use 12 glyphs, because 48 bits / 4 bits per value (glyph) is 12
would be very cool to be able to enter in the extra 16 bits to get access to the other galaxies at will
idek if that's totally accurate either, since there are only 255 galaxies before it wraps but in theory there should be 2^16
unless that's just some limit they placed on it arbitrarily
heavy glacier
they're mostly just reskins of other ones anyways so not much to gain from making more
craggy sluice
Or better yet allow us to generate our own customized galaxy via entering our own seeds and adjust some sliders for terrain, asset density, biomes, etc like minecraft
heavy glacier
that would be ok but would kind of kill the entire multiplayer ecosystem they have now
im sure some people dont care about that but they obviously do
having a strictly offline mode where you could do stuff like that, or just able to invite people to your game and htey use your seed, would be a cool way to deal w that though
would not be able to do passive multiplayer but that would just be a sacrifice the person playing that mode would make
kind sail
wonder if thy could let us terraform our own base planets but then you would have to deal with other people changing it
and i mean terraform in the sense of changing biome
not changing the terrain
heavy glacier
if they could find a way to do that that felt like an in-universe system rather than a weird level editor type thing I'd like it
like maybe you could construct a terraforming facility and assign NPC workers to jobs to plot land or something
nocturne zephyr
that feature would remove the immersion NMS provides me
kind sail
yeah thats exactly what i was thiking abot
heavy glacier
yeah, wouldnt want a top-down editor thing. Would feel rly out of place. but i like the idea of them just allowing more generation variation rather than us having to work to put grass somewhere or something
heavy glacier
lol unironically yeah, but not in a mean way
i just know im not creative or dedicated enough to make anything cool
heavy glacier
as much as people have been upset with the direction they've taken, they always consistently put out some really cool designs with the stuff in every update
never fails to feel cool and sci-fi
at least to me
kind sail
this game is one of my all time favorites and the fact they have stuck with it makes me love it even more
nocturne zephyr
the level of detail in all the new 3D assets have been very high since release
has been a journey for sure.
heavy glacier
yeah. and while i dont know when it might happen, im a firm believer that they will do something to address the variation concerns a lot of community members have
kind sail
the last campfire isn't really my type of game but i am 100% buying it because i want to support their small studio that continues to put out quality
uncut harness
It is very quickly becoming my all time favourite game.
heavy glacier
they basically just keep checking off random thigns that the community has listed as wants, with every update
craggy sluice
They're going to the right direction given the fact that they actually introduced something procedurally generated like the latest update
heavy glacier
so it would be kind of silly to think they would just never touch something that is definitely the loudest and most constant feedback they get
nocturne zephyr
I don't think Hello Games will move onto a new main project and leave this game in the dust until they fully address the lack of planetary variety issue.
heavy glacier
i believe they are just taking their time with it because if they're going to make an update to variation they want to do it "right"
nocturne zephyr
Visions could've been so much better.
they added the exterior procedural crashed freighters
but they lacked interior variety and structure variety
heavy glacier
it felt like that was meant to be a way to satiate people a little bit
nocturne zephyr
mhm
heavy glacier
like "here's some cool stuff that's easy for now"
cloud obsidian
NMS is a weird game in general
nocturne zephyr
it's weird, and it should stay weird
heavy glacier
i could still be wrong, i just think given their recent reputation of basically just checking off a checklist of player wishes, it wouldn't make sense that they just happened to overlook/ignore the biggest one
cloud obsidian
you could study it for game design wisdom regarding randomly generated worlds and exploration mechanics
heavy glacier
Multiplayer was done, crossplay after that, then procedural dungeons (which I was very surprised by)
Even riding animals was a requested feature
nocturne zephyr
bleh
heavy glacier
Cooking too I had seen a lot before Beyond
nocturne zephyr
bleh
cloud obsidian
The thing is, they could add endless variety to worldgen or whatever
heavy glacier
i get you don't like those, i'm saying they were requested lol
craggy sluice
Don't forget VR implementation
nocturne zephyr
yeah i know ha
heavy glacier
i sometimes ride an animal but i dont bother cooking
cloud obsidian
But it'll always be really shallow, because making somewhere interesting makes you want to stick around
heavy glacier
though it seems to be a way to get nanites
nocturne zephyr
i look forward to what they have planned for VR 2.0. but hopefully that doesn't happen until next gen
cloud obsidian
But sticking around is not what this game is about, it's about finding a thing and moving on
heavy glacier
well thats a probelm I see too Broand, and that's why I think they keep adding more stuff to do rather than jumping straight to any sort of terrain overhaul
The biggest complaint when the game launched was there was nothing to do, but the worlds were neat (even though people still complained about lack of variation)
cloud obsidian
I'd argue this is a design problem rather than a missing feature though
heavy glacier
So if they just right away made it more varied but it had nothing to do, it would just be a high level solution without any real meat to it
nocturne zephyr
i still see people saying there's nothing to do
cloud obsidian
Starbound has the same issue
nocturne zephyr
those people need a reality check. this is an indie game
heavy glacier
well part of it is its all relative
if i play mario im bounded strictly, so any additional feature feels like a lot
when I can literally do anything at all and have freedom of movement almost completely, I expect more just due to that
there is a lot to do but people have so much freedom of movement and so much space so the amount they want to do is relative to that, I think
cloud obsidian
If there's no reason to stick around somewhere, then that makes that area less interesting
nocturne zephyr
makes sense, kiwi
heavy glacier
i see what you're saying too broand
but they did add bases, so the case for not sticking around doesn't really work anymore
i do still find really nice looking places and love the game and the visuals, thats really why I want more visually out of it. cause i know they have the skills and the passion for it, and i want to see them exercise those on that variation
cloud obsidian
so when you create the game where sticking around is discouraged. you end up with a lot of uninteresting places. That's my take on it
heavy glacier
it's less that I'm complaining about it not being interesting and more that I'm excited to see what kind of stuff they can pull off if they just made an update focused on terrain and POIs or something
it's also fun to try and come up with cool names for a planet-focused update
nocturne zephyr
i waited a long time to play Abyss, because I wanted the act of going about doing the story to be supplemented by an increased level of variety and terrain gen underwater, but i caved and did it because it was hinting at future content (desolation) and i enjoyed it less because of it.
uncut harness
There's a new mission on The Nexus that I've been having fun with.
Need to help a NPC at his crashed ship.
3 parts to it and it's keeping me entertained.
heavy glacier
oh yeah
nocturne zephyr
oh yeah, that's a cool one
heavy glacier
those missions were nice
uncut harness
I hope they expand up on them.
heavy glacier
the planetary survey one was cool in theory but it took me 30 minutes to find 5 animals so i got annoyed lol
nocturne zephyr
this one was expanding on it tbh, but yeah, even further expansion on missions and the depth of missions
heavy glacier
if they added some sort of scanner upgrade that allowed you to survey for life like how the hotspot thing works that'd be cool
nocturne zephyr
mine made me discover 2 animals
heavy glacier
also yes, i really love how desolation took an existing concept and made it much more in depth
vestal prism
Before that though we need some sort of scan enhancement on Bioships.
wheat remnant
What happens if you reset the simulation for the atlas?
vestal prism
As well as the ability to expand the slots
heavy glacier
if they had an update for every space POI and added the same level of depth to it i'd die happy
but that's a lot of work
nocturne zephyr
slot expansion before planetary variation? hahaha
heavy glacier
like the weird shielded colony things. If we could barter to open a hatch and land on those, and enter into a confined little city with weird NPCs and all that, that'd be so cool
vestal prism
One is easier to code than the other.
heavy glacier
or maybe have the anomalous numbers station spit out some item we could insert into a portal to locate some special resource/treasure/upgrade/etc
vestal prism
They could even work on both at the same time
nocturne zephyr
yeah, was thinking about which space encounters they could flesh out more like Desolation, Kiwi
i'd love that with the little colonies idea
heavy glacier
one thing they could do that probably won't happen but I feel would increase the feeling of being rewarded is add unique items, even if they're procgen
vestal prism
They need to take some time to refine and look back though, or else you end up with stagnant activities and content rot.
nocturne zephyr
I think HG likes to multitask too much @vestal prism. we seem to get these big updates that focus on too many facets of the game, and they each end up more shallow because of it.
heavy glacier
like, procgen "anomalous" multitools with permanent procgen weapon attachments such as weird lasers or lack of overheating. And they were extremely rare plus only found thru some puzzle/specific sequence of events like traveling to certain planet types etc
nocturne zephyr
Desolation doesn't have that problem.
vestal prism
More puzzles would be nice honestly.
They could abuse the portal system to teleport you to a special world with X features
That you cannot access normally
nocturne zephyr
i'm all for more 'weird'.
heavy glacier
cause currently the only rewards kinda fall within 3 categories, wihch is units, nanites, or QS. There are aesthetic things but all of the rewards essentially serve one of those 3 and it can feel not as rewarding
vestal prism
My personal opinion is that three currency types are enough.
nocturne zephyr
i feel the reward in this game 'was' exploration tbh.
heavy glacier
reminds me of Breath of the Wild where every single shrine gives you the same rewards, and all the weapons break. Nothing feels permanent or worth it
i agree, i dont want more currency
i just want rewards to not necessarily always dump into one of those
give me some weird boots, idc
vestal prism
We do have stuff like Freighter Modules, storage modules, etc which act like psuedo currency
nocturne zephyr
multisword
heavy glacier
like maybe i raid an abandoned building and there's a chest with some shiny gold gloves and I can use those
yeah, upgrades are nice actually
I like the rarity system cause it doesn't feel so cut and dry like when I get some units
nocturne zephyr
yes. like the new npcs on planets
heavy glacier
yeah
nocturne zephyr
rings shouldn't be in every system
vestal prism
@nocturne zephyr That... could actually work. They could modify the melee attack you use depending on what kind of attachments you get
nocturne zephyr
even if they are common irl
heavy glacier
make corrupted sentinels almost impossible
vestal prism
But i would love a multi-tool rework/QoL pass.
nocturne zephyr
those seem to be pretty rare
heavy glacier
like i understand they want to keep things accessiible to most players but they look very threatening but are less threatening than regular ones
nocturne zephyr
but i don't dig up much tech
heavy glacier
for the rescue mission i had to dig up some tech and fight like 8 of them
nocturne zephyr
that is new to desolation right?
heavy glacier
one at the tech site, and then i had to decrypt the tech at a terminal which had 2 waves of 4 of them
yeah
nocturne zephyr
shooting sentinels is more fun now. i think making them less bullet spongey was a good change
heavy glacier
but they 1. didn't pay any attention to me while I killed most of them and 2. they take so long to shoot you and their bullets do so little
heavy glacier
i agree making them less spongy is really good
i just want them to feel very threatening i guess
vestal prism
What are corrupted sentinels?
nocturne zephyr
they gotta up the damage output now
heavy glacier
if you dig up salvaged tech they sometimes spawn
nocturne zephyr
big, leaky sentinels with red eyes
heavy glacier
it's like a sentinel with black goop and extra wiring on it
uncut harness
These?
uncut harness
Oh nice. Is Corrupted Sentinels their official name?
nocturne zephyr
watch HG pull a Destiny and increase the size of a corrupted sentinel by 50% as a boss battle
heavy glacier
lol
uncut harness
I have been calling them new Sentinels lol. I didn't see any until the new update.
heavy glacier
as long as it had like 10x more health and did 10x more damage i'd be ok with that
nocturne zephyr
they've been there, just utilized more now
heavy glacier
but yeah they sometimes would pop up when you dug up salvaged tech containers, not always
i do like that those containers have another purpose now too
they were just another version of bones before
nocturne zephyr
leaky bois
vestal prism
Ugh... I'm morbidly curious to see how the walkers look like
uncut harness
Big.
heavy glacier
there aren't any walker version of those
if that's what you meant
it's just the little drones
uncut harness
Oh right yes. Ignore me lol.
I thought you mean in general.
nocturne zephyr
would be a nice introduction to the game
heavy glacier
lol true
gloomy isle
Tbh combat would feel better if the controller rumbled when you shoot
uncut harness
Controller doesn't vibrate?
heavy glacier
also add a lot more bass to all the weapon sounds
nocturne zephyr
much more difficult with new abilities
uncut harness
You know, that's going to annoy me next time I play now it's been pointed out to me.
heavy glacier
weapons definitely lack some feeling of heaviness
nocturne zephyr
the scatter blaster feels really good now
heavy glacier
if you play another game with guns it usually has some sort of chunky feel to it that is satisfying. missing some of that with these
gloomy isle
A little console aim assist and some rumble and itd be twice as good
heavy glacier
i use the pulse spitter mostly, feels like im spilling jelly orbs out of a bowl
gloomy isle
I will say though that it feels better now
nocturne zephyr
SB?
gloomy isle
?
gloomy isle
All the weapons I've used sinse the update
heavy glacier
honestly the crosshairs help somehow
nocturne zephyr
i really don't expect much from HG regarding combat
crosshair variety is a nice lil' change
gloomy isle
Yeah gunplay shouldn't be the main focus
nocturne zephyr
it's a bit of a mental thing
heavy glacier
yeah as we mentioned in main chat they made space combat feel so good with this update so i am happy
gloomy isle
Space combat is way better now yeah
heavy glacier
if they did add some bass/low-ends to the gun sounds that would be perfect but it's still fine
nocturne zephyr
i haven't really noticed much from space combat, will need to go more in depth with it
heavy glacier
they added the new crosshairs there too, and aiming is like 50x easier
much less annoying then how precise you needed to be before
nocturne zephyr
ahh gotcha. makes sense now, after hearing someone mention the rockets
heavy glacier
yep. probably one of my top 3 changes in this update lol
nocturne zephyr
the rockets were useless
heavy glacier
same with some of the other weapons that didn't shoot quickly
gloomy isle
Imo they need to improve the feedback from the guns. Controller rumble, meatier sounds (the sound of bolts hitting a sentinel, beefier gun sounds)
heavy glacier
I agree
everything else is okay, maybe balance the damage output of enemies a bit more, but the sounds are the only real killer for me atm
nocturne zephyr
probably just depends on who's on the team
and who has more experience with fps type gameplay/combat
heavy glacier
definitely, i won't be upset if it isn't a focus
gloomy isle
I mean it's not detracting from the experience a lot
quasi niche
Any tips for finding uninhabited (Uncharted) lush planets? Is there a particular galaxy or star color that has an increased chance? I have been in Eissentam long enough to reach the core and then some and have had little luck finding the specifics I am looking for.
gloomy isle
@quasi niche red systems are quite likely to be uninhabited
There might be a better system to go to but I'm not entirely sure
heavy glacier
i think eissentam has increased lush odds so that might be why
nocturne zephyr
i usually go from system to system in the galaxy map and check if it lists a race, if it doesn't list a race, i think that means it's uninhabited
heavy glacier
oh nvm i reread the question
but yeah do what zug said, red systems are def more commonly abandoned
ok now i want to play, bye friends. was nice talking with all of you
nocturne zephyr
later
uncut harness
Bye Kiwi.
gloomy isle
The derelicts definitely make the universe more lived in
More stuff like that would be amazing
severe sun
finally found a system that reliably spits out living ship upgrade
nocturne zephyr
i do like the improvement to finding space encounters (the freighter) by finding the new item to call them, but i still wish the DF and other encounters were waypoints in the system that you could see on your HUD and fly to.
gloomy isle
That would be cool
severe sun
the system still needs some work, I save scummed my way through 100 encounters, 0 void egg upgrades
gloomy isle
It'd be nice for things like that to very rarely appear on planets
severe sun
head to this one system, pops out a void egg after 1 minute every time
nocturne zephyr
yeah it doesn't really reward that feeling of exploration
gloomy isle
BTW does anyone have any idea what I should call my living ship?
severe sun
Toby
nocturne zephyr
mcguire
gloomy isle
I was thinking Jesus but these ideas are better lol
uncut harness
Oh goodness.
hollow sluice
Just had 2 blueprints come to me this evening and I don't think I've seen them before. Are they new? Portable Reactor (left) and Quantum Processor (right)
mental socket
what are the item descriptions
sullen drift
These are not really new.. At least the first one as far as I am concerned.
vital phoenix
Throwing this here since I don't want to risk it being something important
This anomalous item seems to be broadcasting a code, though I'm struggling to figure out which
I had originally guessed something related to Base or Hex
Perhaps I'm looking to far into it. It might be like the asteroid larvae and intelligence and just be a random red herring.
stable igloo
actually i think those translate into a portal code but im not sure
vital phoenix
Would make sense
It is an ancient gateway
So whatever's behind it is rather important presumably
hardy sand
did anyone else tear up when asked to choose between letting artemis die, or putting her in the simulation?
it's gonna be a minute before i get over that.
hardy sand
i let them go.
vital phoenix
||Under the ATLAS' judgement, it was the right choice as well||
It will let you know
crisp fern
@vital phoenix try translating them to portal glyphs here: https://nmsportals.github.io/ and then seeing if they work at a portal as a valid address
vital phoenix
On it
crisp fern
I found similar yesterday and they turned out to be valid portal coordinates, but nothing unusual was at the destination so far as I could tell
vital phoenix
I was thrown off by the letters
It's far too long to be coordinates
Having 4 extra characters
uncut harness
@vital phoenix it's portal glyphs and all of them lead to the same system
However in that system there is a different code
People think it's a trail
vital phoenix
But it's too long?
gloomy isle
I saw some yesterday and to me it looked like system coordinates
tacit harbor
So is there any story difference in letting Artemis live in the simulation or ending him
gloomy isle
Changes some dialogue but nothing massive iirc
open canyon
I think I will follow that numbers station code
open canyon
not noticing anything of note, spent 3 anomaly scanners and got 2 first spawn rubbles, and metalloid
crisp fern
it's portal glyphs and all of them lead to the same system
@uncut harness did you mean the same star system, or the same type?
I just punched in the portal coords from what Taufehi'a shared and it's a different star system from the coords I got from the hyperspace nav. beacon I saw yesterday
crisp fern
extreme frozen planet, 4 other planets i didn't look at, vy'keen blue star system
wind panther
My opinion is that someone found a conversion that will make it a valid portal code, but there's no evidence that is the intended purpose or the right conversion method. I'm saving a list of them, but I don't think there's a purpose yet.
mighty rampart
@hollow sluice those two are blueprints for trading items that you can make from plant farms. they're not new and normally are acquired from unlocking them at manufacturing facilities or get them randomly from operation centres
crisp fern
My opinion is that someone found a conversion that will make it a valid portal code, but there's no evidence that is the intended purpose or the right conversion method. I'm saving a list of them, but I don't think there's a purpose yet.
@wind panther for the numbers stations or hyperspace nav beacons? The latter don't need any conversion, as the one I found & one posted above are 16 characters and easily convert to coordinates
also they just happen to fit as hex
wind panther
I'll have to check the details when I'm at my computer later, but at least some, if not all of the addresses I recorded were outside the existing addressing; some of the values were too high. Portals will still take those addresses, but they just spit you out at the closest valid address.
glass flare
the real ARG was already in the game 👀
compact coyote
Wait what
craggy sluice
Are they changing how everything is seeded?
uncut harness
Just wanted to drop a quick thank you to all folks who took part in #glyph-investigation, it was fun
wind panther
@uncut harness @mighty rampart If it helps, I just checked the save file and there is only an EXP_SCAVENGER_8, no 1 through 7, so I don't think it's for reaching a certain rank
cursive kernel
??
uncut harness
So it's more like 1 time event / action that made me get it
But I don't remember doing anything special
Or maybe the label is wrong and it's really just for scavenging the derelicts
But then I guess you guys would have it
wind panther
The stats on either side of that one are nexus missions and VR movement related
uncut harness
Maybe I upload my save file for you and you can figure out?
hardy sand
will going through the galaxy's center reset my quests?
i really don't want to have to redo the starbirth thing
uncut harness
Holy crap I just had the darkest story of a derelict yet
hardy sand
..
mighty rampart
it wont reset any quests
uncut harness
|| Crew of Gek sent to reestablish a trading route, carrying some artifact in a locked down part of the ship. Some Geks broke in, the captain killed them all, because the artifact told him to ||
hardy sand
will my inventory reset?
mighty rampart
damn
hardy sand
woah friendlyfire, that's some straight dead space shit
mighty rampart
will my inventory reset?
no
hardy sand
so, it does virtually nothing
mighty rampart
but all your tech in your general inventory will get damaged
hardy sand
shit
hardy sand
so, i'm in the artemis questline, and i'm at the 'purge' bit, wondering when i'll get the glyph set
hardy sand
huh
mighty rampart
once you warp to a system wait a couple seconds after its done doing that entry message
you'll get some music playing and a pop up that you acquired a glyph
hardy sand
during the purge bit, or later?
very sorry, i kinda have the brain capacity of a dead chicken lmao
mighty rampart
during the purge bit
once you get all 16 the quest progresses
I think that's the last part of the storyline, at which you get to the final atlas interface
hardy sand
i had no resources to restore life support at the part where i|| confirmed the grim death of atlas||, so it made it all the more impactful, as if i truly didn't have much time left
so yay game mechanics, for making epic moments like this, even more so.
cursive kernel
@uncut harness dead space
uncut harness
Yeah, creppy AF
Speaking of Dead Space, I got it and SOMA on the recent Steam sale
And few weeks after that HG gives us Desolation
Coincidence? I think not
Gonna get the sweet refund money
mighty rampart
haha
SOMA is closer to Desolation than Dead Space tbh
Dead Space is when you go in third person
pretty much the same angle and ofc the multitool looking similar to that auto weapon I forgot the name of
uncut harness
I need a new Dead Space tbh
haughty rover
Do you ever meet or talk to the characters from the story when u finish it all again. Them people at the big telephone things
glass flare
so is there a central list of all these hex codes that have been found within the game?
mental socket
aren't those just for system coords
glass flare
maybe so, i've never found one. just seemed like it was notable if they were legit portal coords
uneven oak
what are the requirements to unlock Iteration 1 title? it says "one of the original Travellers" as the description
idle jay
I think it had something to do with the save being created on a legacy version (pre-next)
Not entirely sure though
uneven oak
also, the cargo bulkhead is glitched right?
idle jay
Yeah. Apparently it maxes out the storage slots when it's only supposed to increase it by one
uneven oak
well that was kinda weird when I used it but too late now I guess
did they increase fleet limit? I have 30 which should be max but didn't get admiral title
mighty rampart
35
uneven oak
cool, time to find more and upgrade then
craggy sluice
My tech slots are glitched. I cannot install freighter upgrade modules on them
mighty rampart
known bug
also the freighter upgrade modules work but not the fleet ones
as I have a C class hyperdrive one and it installed fine on my tech slot
but not my C class fleet combat upgrade
tepid iris
the bulkhead thing is fixed on experimental I think
craggy sluice
Do I need to submit another ticket for this?
tepid iris
I think that's fixed as well on experimental
craggy sluice
Where is gunter
tepid iris
Isn't that this?
Fixed an issue that prevented freighter technology from being placed in the technology inventory.
craggy sluice
Yeah that's it. So I just need to wait for the patch release huh
tepid iris
nice 🙂
I love how fast things are being fixed for Desolation
like everything I experienced now is in experimental
the stuff for beyond took months to get fixed for me
craggy sluice
I'm really enjoying the derelicts right now
And I'm starting to appreciate the colors of my freighter (teal+red) even though it is glitched and supposed to be white+red
tepid iris
fixed in experimental as well according to the notes 😍
patch notes even say that freighters affected "should" revert
craggy sluice
I love how fast things are being fixed for Desolation
@tepid iris yeah now I'm excited for that patch to be released
astral karma
just have to be sure it's stable before it ships to live c:
tepid iris
remember they had to patch frigates 4 times for NEXT until it worked? 😛
craggy sluice
After the freighter color fix, I might actually buy the Teal paint
tiny thistle
Has anyone actually gotten to the core of the galaxy?
It seems it would take years to do it
gloomy isle
Does anyone else think that they should update the surface crashed freighters to be more visually in line with space derelicts?
Not like overhauling the generation, but updating how the rooms and stuff look
As well as maybe replacing the distress beacon with a log in one of the rooms
worthy mango
i guess it would be cool if they where more dangerous
craggy sluice
And make the freighter designs more varied whether the functional ones, the derelicts and the crashed ones
Add more capital freighter designs
kind sail
idk if they need to put the biological horrors in there but the procedural rooms would be pretty cool...but if the horrors were the reason the freighter crashed into the planet then i could see them having a reason for being in there. Would be cool to see some variation though
mighty rampart
I think they'll work on that in the future, I am pretty sure someone in their team thought the same
hardy fractal
Hey who wanna talk no mans sky
mental socket
if you got some datamines then sure
modern tundra
how do you get one of those live alien ships
heavy glacier
@modern tundra if you check the pins in this channel there is a video that goes over the top level steps, you might need to come back and ask some questions here for certain parts though
modern tundra
oh ok thank you @heavy glacier
heavy glacier
you're very welcome, have fun
rare coral
so I read theres a teleporter for freighters now but couldnt find anything new in my build options. do I have to unlock that somewhere?
mighty rampart
no, the usual teleporter should be buildable
the wording in the patch notes was misleading
rare coral
it was, but the normal base teleporter didnt have any power, so I assumed it was a new and different teleporter for freighters
rare coral
I didnt even try 😉 😦
mighty rampart
understandable
also its only one sided, you cant use a teleporter in your base/space station to go back to your freighter
rare coral
thx for clearing up my confusion
grizzled apex
What's been datamined
heavy glacier
something mentioning a pet and something mentioning "sketching"
mighty rampart
sounds sketchy
grizzled apex
Oh so that's the only thing you all know?
The pets will probably be summonavle via a menu
Tahts been found
And there is a value for planet gen which find your galaxy number now
heavy glacier
the value for the planet gen isn't new as far as i know lol, that's always been used. and I don't actually see anything mentioning pets being summoned via a menu other than speculation.
mighty rampart
heavy glacier
ohh okay, missed that one message. only saw stuff in here as i dont really read the modding channel
nocturne zephyr
If they're doing pets I guess I'll get a teddy bear
wind panther
Sketching shows up in the material files now, so it might be a way to improve popin? Pure speculation
crisp fern
Fixed an issue that allowed players to destroy a derelict freighter they were currently aboard.
I claim responsibility for finding this one, lmao
nocturne zephyr
i wonder how that'd work in multiplayer
if there's another player inside the derelict exploring, and another outside destroying it, i suppose the other player would just start floating in space/
crisp fern
maybe yeah
nocturne zephyr
would be funny, especially if there were more players inside, and from a distance seeing them floating off into space
slow yacht
It would be cool
uncut harness
Sketching shows up in the material files now, so it might be a way to improve popin? Pure speculation
@wind panther I hope it is not actual sketching
as in, take screenshot, do some painting/sketching minigame, sell result for nanites or something
heavy glacier
@wind panther what is the basis for that assumption, is sketching an actual method for something like that?
sturdy acorn
i swear on me mum
uncut harness
I don't think sketching is the name of any graphics technique,
The only thing that comes to mind is a shader that makes stuff look like a sketch
wind panther
The basis is just that it's in material files, which is something about appearance and that a sketch is a rough, quick drawing, which makes me think of performance.
heavy glacier
that's fair, also hope i didnt come across as accusatory or anything. was just genuinely curious where the intuition for that came from
wind panther
Not at all, thanks for being polite :)
heavy glacier
for sure!
it would be funny if it was just a setting to use for a new filter in photo mode or something
signal epoch
Awesome idea
balmy nimbus
how do you call this ?
prisma oak
I only just discovered they've got a terminal earlier.
balmy nimbus
thanks ! did not know the english name
prisma oak
Also, lmao: Angry Captain, +2 combat
balmy nimbus
interesting new lore inside 😉
since when ? anyone know when entries 21+ were added ?
craggy sluice
Already done 4 derelicts and I'm impressed. I have yet to encounter those spider like mini horrors I'm seeing from others' games
sturdy acorn
try doing them in other systems
balmy nimbus
I don't know... but I'm quite use to this structures and those texts are really new to me (and really accurate about community missions)
craggy sluice
try doing them in other systems
@sturdy acorn yeah I've been to different systems even the uncharted ones. Maybe I'll find an abandoned system and do a derelict run there
idle jay
||The traveller host asked what's in the water. That has got to relate with the Abyss and recent lore stuff||
Those new ones sound chilling
And sad
nocturne zephyr
Hmmm interesting
idle jay
Log 25 interests me because of the last line
|| TRAVELLER [HOST]: So tell me. Tell me what is in the water... ||
sturdy acorn
chemicals to make the frickin' frogs gay
idle jay
Lol
I don't recall there ever being logs that involve the traveller (you) directly speaking
patent shale
Oh shit
No there hasnt
Also thats kinda huge if there is new logs
Can we access them now or is this all dtaamined?
Datamined
crisp fern
since when ? anyone know when entries 21+ were added ?
@balmy nimbus June 19th
idle jay
I mean they are written down on the page lol
crisp fern
At least, that's when someone noticed and put them on wiki
Hard to say which update added them, could have been Living Ship or Exo Mech
Or maybe something older still
idle jay
Yeah those sound about right
wind panther
That's Null speaking, the Creator. Telamon was attached to their suit as the first traveler, which brings up the questions: where did the other travelers come from? Is telamon attached to our suits as well?
idle jay
Ahh
Yeah I'm pretty sure Telamon is part of our suits
Weren't they the voice we hear from our suit?
wind panther
That theory is from people reading the boundary failures, but reading all that again, it really only says that it is part of Null's. The logs don't seem to go farther than him getting away from Atlas
idle jay
What do you think of the water thing?
wind panther
The Abyss? Maybe it's global warming, sea levels rising in the real world and slowly flooding the Atlas, causing corruption and failure in parts? Just spit balling
I'm more curious about the Glass
I get the feeling that that is the outside world, look out of a monitor from behind the glass
idle jay
The glass is also something really interesting
harsh pelican
Looked at #glyph-investigation for the first time in 2 days
I am upset that there's nothing behind the glyphs
severe sun
Just fully upgraded my nautilon, so I'm ready for whatever's down there
It actually goes quite fast with 3 engine mods
crisp fern
a shame there's not very far to go down, lol
dense knot
Does stuff involving galaxies other than euclid count as spoilers?
frank prism
I found a fast way to mine
bleak gorge
It’s even easier to ship mine if you do the same thing on the metal pillar planet
Hope that helps
You can get like 5 stacks of 9999 ferrite dust in less than a minute
crisp fern
reminds me of my very first video of NMS, lmao:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsBhC0WTeTs&t=76s
grizzled apex
@wind panther there is water which is infected by the abyss. Those who drink that water have to obey the abyss
balmy nimbus
Thanks @crisp fern
balmy nimbus
https://twitter.com/charivari54/status/1285823727385694209 we have lost another one
idle jay
Possibly in August. We aren't for sure though
I heard the Hesperus thing might be a bug
last anchor
What exactly happened to Ariadne
idle jay
Hope not because then it would make for some exciting weekend lore
@last anchor They left to go search for the Abyss
balmy nimbus
They replaced Ariadne, now Hesperus ?
idle jay
They came back but were unable to recall what happened when they reached the void where the Abyss is. Just that they awoke and were haunted
balmy nimbus
Are we sure that Ariadne who is back is the one who left ?
mental socket
someone check if he disappeared
idle jay
Can't right now
balmy nimbus
who, Hesperus ?
idle jay
Yeah
balmy nimbus
on my way
idle jay
Though I think this might be legit because it's been a couple of people reporting it
If it's true then there will definitely be something about it for the next weekend mission
balmy nimbus
idle jay
So it is true
uncut harness
Gone for me as well (stable release)
balmy nimbus
Gone. And Gemini says nothing. Experimental build
idle jay
Guess we'll see what happens this weekend
balmy nimbus
I love the way they do it
idle jay
WHO'S SHOULDER WILL I PUT MY HAND ON NOW
uncut harness
Good thing Tethys is still there
If something were to happen to my buddy Tethys then it's war
mental socket
was this disappearing mentioned in the datamined weekend missions?
idle jay
Don't know. Don't want to look since I want the lore to be a surprise
wanton path
omg this is getting interesting
idle jay
Yep
grizzled apex
@idle jay okay want a spoiler?
Hesperes really HAS disappeared
There will be some disturbing lore following their reappearance (as we go searching for them)
And big one here ||Ariadne died in the crash and was replaced by a fake||
wanton path
I though exactly that too
idle jay
Fuck
uncut harness
Ariadne is the Hello Kitty lady isn't it?
Yeah
Ah ok. Thank you.
I'm trying hard to remember who everyone is.
uncut harness
It's getting very interesting.
wind panther
Polo has secretly been replaced by a clone of the Gek Overseer
Never trusted that guy
craggy sluice
The plot thickens...
wind panther
It happened when they released the huge terrain procgen overhaul
mental socket
ah, so never
heck, I want some good plot twists that lead into anniversary update
Don't play with my emotions. Sean does it enough already 
craggy sluice
Did they remove the explosion animation of asteroids?
mental socket
And some sentinel explosion animations as well
Seems like some visuals have been turned off or removed
Even the particles from picking up plants come in lesser quantities
PC all settings on ultra
prime inlet
ramming into trees and rocks initially works as usual, both soundfx and visual animation play, but after a couple of minutes doing that it stops doing both and just deletes the object
wind panther
2.6.1 is dropping on PS right now, probably on Steam soon. I think that might fix it
craggy sluice
So it's a bug, thought it's intentional
hallow kayak
Just finished the Artemis quests and stuff and I gotta say...a thousand times more amazing than I thought a questline in this game could be
astral karma
yea, it catches some off-guard c:
hallow kayak
It...blew my mind and was more emotionally impactful than reading books. They made everything make sense so expertly and well paced
violet narwhal
@crisp fern @wind panther those navigation stations give the UA of the current system in "raw" format. It's slightly different to the portal address, as that doesn't have the galaxy in it. The portal address for @Taufehi'a#6634 's screenshot would be 0059FC4BB522.
They left? 
prisma oak
Woot, managed to defeat the entire Sentinel army and totally disable their capital ship.
It can't shoot at me anymore and Sentinels stopped spawning. VICTORY!
Shot all its turrets into scrap metal, muahahahaha
Oh nice, that capped three of my remaining milestones.
lapis plume
@spice gorge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KviYICR2q4c
spice gorge
@lapis plume Thanks
What is the site that has coords for multitools people submit?
Looking for options on incinerator tools
other than the one listed above
lapis plume
it does
idle jay
It turns out the glitch effects were stock footage
Kind of figured that was the case but wanted to have fun with this anyway
mighty rampart
the glyphs were a part of it?
oh yeah I see it
ouch
I knew they werent really something to look into but damn this is even more sad
oof
mighty rampart
HG probably knows, otherwise how would they get this video from
now if you mean "does Sean know"? then idk
grizzled apex
No they wouldnt need to know the guy
Someone else used the effects and dint know the original creator
And this was a composer and a piano instructor we are talking about
Who knows? Maybe sean just searched glitch video overlays and got the vid suggestions?
nocturne zephyr
yeah i suppose just usable footage under license
grizzled apex
Oh how I wish HG saw our reaction and might start an ARG
nocturne zephyr
so weird how the panel looking glitches look like NMS landscapes though
nocturne zephyr
but it did! i know it's not, but they looked like landscapes
grizzled apex
I mean the golden grass image looked like a scene from the portal trailer to me lol
So who knows
Probably just the adrenaline of a cryptic sean tweet.
nocturne zephyr
yup.
grizzled apex
I just hope that any future variation update doesn't end up being visions 2.0
Or that'll really set people off
If the speculation of the frames wasnt enough to show that
People want a BIG variation update really bad
nocturne zephyr
a visions sized variety update will be confirmation for me that HG don't care about the core of the game anymore, so I will move on.
nocturne zephyr
visions was a lot smaller than Foundations, and that took 3 months
uncut harness
Everything adds up, however the visions happened 2 years ago and since then nothing... meh
I've watched some of Sean recent talks
He sort of implies that at HG games people kinda do their own thing with no solid roadmap
If that's true, then the natural conclusion is that variety doesn't happen because nobody working there actually cares enough about it to make it project.
idle jay
It could also be the other way around
nocturne zephyr
like Valve
idle jay
We might not have been receiving any variation updates since Visions because they want to go BIG on their variety update. They could be taking their time to make it as best as possible
At least
Thats my hope
uncut harness
That's my hope too
nocturne zephyr
afterall
it's the most important thing.
so it needs time and attention
from more than a small team
heavy glacier
kinda annoys me that the guy who made that effect said they "overdid" it, cause they really just took exactly the same video and trimmed the end off. By that logic that guy overdid it when he made the video lol
nocturne zephyr
underdid
uncut harness
my personal guess is that Desolation happened because of a new hire
heavy glacier
i think it was just based on player feedback, people wanted procgen dungeons and that's what it is
idle jay
I wouldn't blame them for wanting to take time on a variation overhaul if it's happening. It is pretty much the core of the game
What Kiwi said
uncut harness
Sure, but someone must actually decide to do something about the feedback instead of just developing some random thing they find interesting.
Anyway, my point is that if it is really a new hire doing this, we should expect more neat procgen stuff
heavy glacier
I don't really think the logic checks out, there's already an entire team, why would a new person suddenly be the entire reason for a feature being "decided on"