@strong bluff no one knows. Although it might be the creator
#nms-spoilers
strong bluff
Anyway, time to play the game while I can.
I thought that too. But why would he return back to Atlas?
🤔
cursive kernel
Yeah I also thought about the creator
astral karma
there is in game mentions of The Abyss, right?
tepid iris
I think it came from Captain Steve?
cursive kernel
The God to the god
grizzled apex
@astral karma yes. Especially in the weekend missions
tepid iris
he referenced it like Stranger Things, like the upside down
strong bluff
I also wonder - aren´t biological monstrosities and Abyss same thing? 🤔
idle jay
I decided to screenshot those because they caught my eye. They just for some reason felt related to recent lore events
tepid iris
that we would get something like that in NMS, which would use the super formula
grizzled apex
That's the most abyss lore we have
@idle jay although the walls began to break in 1.3
tepid iris
so the current universe remains the same, but they essentially add some new "universe" we cna travel too, the abyss, which is crazy
idle jay
Yeah
cursive kernel
@strong bluff they aren't
cursive kernel
@grizzled apex portals id guess
strong bluff
And later Anomaly species (player ones).
idle jay
Your likely right
grizzled apex
@cursive kernel what context is this in sorry?
idle jay
The first one I shared though. What do you think of that?
tepid iris
so like how we can summon The Nexus now
you could summon some portal or rift into the abyss
strong bluff
Though there is one little plot hole - if Atlas created travellers to simulate its creator, then why the Last traveller looks like its creator (a human), while rest of the travellers look like aliens? 🤔
cursive kernel
I also wonder - aren´t biological monstrosities and Abyss same thing? 🤔
@strong bluff
grizzled apex
@idle jay the great king line seems new to me
astral karma
at the end of it, our only firm ideas are:
-
The Abyss is some kind of "invader"
-
Travellers and such are speaking about the end of days, although that's typical of them...and potentially new dialogue regarding it
grizzled apex
I dont recall that line
strong bluff
Unless the last traveller was created right and others wrong, as the Creator´s memory was corrupted.
grizzled apex
One major plot hole potentially
cursive kernel
Quick blow in the cartridge of ATLAS
strong bluff
Maybe the Abyss is corrupted version of the Creator - sort of opposite of him? So somebody who wants to destroy Atlas? Or some sort of his fear of opposite of its creator or something similar (looking at Silent Hill and similar games).
astral karma
call intergalactic tech support
grizzled apex
The abyss is being stabilized by the players btw
strong bluff
As we are only character who can diagnose Atlas.
grizzled apex
The glitches that we feed are solidifying its presence int the universe
tepid iris
do we know if Greg's work is just the weekend missions? Or is his full work unreleased yet?
cursive kernel
I think it's (1)616-1616-1616
strong bluff
Or maybe the Abyss is 
?
grizzled apex
The abyss might not even be evil
astral karma
who is this Greg I keep seeing referenced?
cursive kernel
The number of intergalactic tech support
grizzled apex
It can make others do what it wants like the Atlas
astral karma
the new proc gen person?
grizzled apex
But it isnt fully stablilized
Maybe some other program in the Atlas supercomputer
Is trying to enter the simulation
cursive kernel
Computer virus
strong bluff
Or maybe it´s the machine which previously replaced Atlas and now it´s going to destroy it? Or Atlas´s fear of that machine?
tepid iris
Greg is the story writer
astral karma
I still think the Abyss is some sort of "ruined king" trope entity, but that's another crackpot theory that requires me making WAY too many League references and comparisons
strong bluff
Or a virus...yes.
tepid iris
Greg is a freelance writer HG hired for Atlas Rises and NEXT
and he got re-hired for new pieces of content @astral karma
astral karma
oooooooooh
I thought Greg was the proc gen guy they hired that everyone got hyped about because his previous works included procgen cities and such
tepid iris
the "procgen cities" guy has in fact left HG 😦
cursive kernel
Imagine if atlas bluescreened
astral karma
...oh
tepid iris
I think he made the freighter tech and then left? not sure
cursive kernel
WAIT
grizzled apex
I'll list facts
- The Abyss can control those who drink its infected water
- It isnt in a stable form like the Atlas
- The Abyss is behind all the weekend mission instabilities
- The Players have been stabilizing the Abyss
cursive kernel
NEXT WAS JUST A HARD DRIVE WIPE
tepid iris
@hybrid pendant knows who the "procgen cities" guy is
grizzled apex
What if no one did the weekend missions? Would HG rewrite the story? Maybe make it so that the Abyss wont rise up?
I can link the entire weekend mission lore here
cursive kernel
Do it
astral karma
I'm fine with it
cursive kernel
I don't even read the weekend mission text
grizzled apex
Okay then
cursive kernel
I just get my qs and dip
grizzled apex
Pretty interesting
https://pastebin.com/u/Ket-
These are several pieces of text from NMS
tepid iris
Twitter
grizzled apex
Kind if old though
tepid iris
hm might be that his new work is only for the weekend missions
grizzled apex
He had another tweet though back when the new missions started
tepid iris
yeah there was one where he said he was working on new content
grizzled apex
Saying that "Some of his new work" was being published now
grizzled apex
And that was on the announcement of the missions
tepid iris
maybe he didn't write the name in full but just tagged nms
uneven current
Though there is one little plot hole - if Atlas created travellers to simulate its creator, then why the Last traveller looks like its creator (a human), while rest of the travellers look like aliens? 🤔
@strong bluff how do you know we're human under the mask?
grizzled apex
Also, only the last traveller was modeled off of the creator
tepid iris
Nothing either on "@NoMansSky (from:gregbuchanan)"
uneven current
we could look like artemis
grizzled apex
The rest were just another race
The players are the last travellers
Whilst the others are the previous ones
Null was the first
cursive kernel
The transmission has changed with the collapse of the anomaly. Instead, Gek voices speak of gratitude and friendship.
They tell me that this world could be a home for me. That I should stay. That the water is perfectly safe to drink.
Wow ok
Not mind blowing but neat
Before this ship's reality-splinter, it came into contact with a strange, vast freighter in the darkness between suns.
What, like the darkness in destiny?
Finally:
The factory's records are corrupted by the static, but I can access the final designs. The workers began creating appearance modifications of pure light, spheres in the place of heads.
Like the ambient multiplayer pre beyond
grizzled apex
Looks sounds like the head of null to me
cursive kernel
Modifications of PURE LIGHT
grizzled apex
Maybe null will come back at the end if the story?
@cursive kernel get rid if the rotating bits on his head and you got pure light
cursive kernel
Still have a body tho
grizzled apex
HEAD modifications
cursive kernel
Of matter
grizzled apex
Appearance modifications of pure light, SPHERES IN PLACE OF HEADS
And the rotary bits do make the null head spherical
cursive kernel
grizzled apex
I know what you where talking about
cursive kernel
Pure light
grizzled apex
Apparitions that no one but the last traveller saw
How could the workers know the design?
But then again how could they know of null. But then again he did travel world after world
cursive kernel
The null head isn't pure light though
tepid iris
I had one quicksilver misson yesterday too 😦
does it bug out for anyone else too that you don't get new ones each day?
tepid iris
yeah it's really weird
you're supposed to get one per day
but caps at three
so
what's the best way to spawn quad servos?
I need 6 more for a quicksilver mission
uncut harness
Maybe I got some lying around, could give them to you
Yup, got exactly 6, want them @tepid iris ?
uncut harness
DM me your code and I'll join ya
mighty rampart
you just get 1 new mission a day, and if you miss them you can still do them the next day and this is capped at 4
tame sleet
you get another quicksilver quest at a specific time each that
day*
that specific time was 21 minutes ago
@tepid iris
tepid iris
aha makes sense
lol just discovered the cooker has storage too
hm the ingredient storage isn't added to the freighter tabs
I'm going to suggest that 😄
vague badge
Is that just regular traveler ghost dialogue?
prime inlet
was the weekend mission planet like this?
tepid iris
I think so y
prime inlet
this can't be right then
seems to think i was the one who discovered it
multiplayer is off, always worked as expected (i was never able to discover them first) on steam normal, only thing that changed on my end is that i opted in steam experimental.
prime inlet
even the mission name i got in the anomaly was different than the one i watching someone else run on youtube.
this weekends was Swallowed by a star; it was called Toward the void on my game
mighty rampart
it happens a lot to me
prime inlet
and this is the only thing i ever read from her.
mighty rampart
oh then the mission got bugged for you
for me the main mission works as normal, but it likes to overlap someone's discovery with mine
then reverts back to the original discoverer's name
prime inlet
yeah, i reported it, but i'm not even going to bother anymore
camera still tilted/skewed to the side on moons
taken in this weekends moon
prime inlet
oh i got the exact same lore out of it than the others did, even though mission name was different.
gloomy isle
Interesting. I'm curious about these now ever since derelicts were teased in the missions
vocal shoal
oh i remember now lol
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345378190568587275/679508742924009557/320irz.png
midnight pulsar
when i do a scan on the derelict freighters I can see some horrific nests than I can't seem to get to - is that a bug/intended?
or am i missing something to get to those rooms?
vocal shoal
perhaps a bug with the procedural generation
midnight pulsar
yeah seems like it - I can pop them through the wall with motion if they're activated
shame 😦
bitter remnant
Did anyone figure out the glyphs hidden in the trailer? Do they look similar to these?
I just stumbled upon this comic on eBay... Didn't know about it. But it made me think of the glyphs from the trailer that someone shared recently
bitter remnant
Okay, cool. 👍
orchid relic
Does collecting emergency supplies deny access to unsealing the door afterwards or vice versa?
uncut harness
Nope, by collecting them you get some goodies and can proceed further
heavy glacier
I think it's redundant because there's achest right behind you that has supplies
i think that is the same thing, just another option to collect it so you dont miss it
strong bluff
So trolls us again? 🤔
heavy glacier
i think its just so its more likely you collect the materials int he chest since they are useful for the dungeon
the first time i went i didnt notice and i ignored the option to collect stuff, then when i was leaving i found a supply cache next tot he terminal
then the next time i went, i collected that cache first, and when i interacted with the terminal there was no option for collecting emergency supplies
hybrid pendant
i saw someone having this story
soo there is a limit to story text
witch is kinda what i expected
i didnt expecte 2 billion texts variation
deft wyvern
Bruh, we be mad at Atlas doe
mighty rampart
as long as there's dozens of them I'm happy
hybrid pendant
yeah
as long as the layout itself is different i am happy
if the stories are similar its ok
u could always add up more later
i am really enjoying those derelict freighters
it shows to me that when hello games do procedural tech it can be really varied and insane
uncut harness
Damn shame they don't do it often
hybrid pendant
might be a turning shift with this update
uncut harness
@mighty rampart sorry
hybrid pendant
Desolation shows they still care about procedural generation
tepid iris
idle jay
See. So he didn't just write for the weekend missions
Unless this is the only other thing he wrote for it seems like it's possible he wrote more stuff for other content updates
Like procedural ruins for example 👀
balmy nimbus
- community missions
- desolation
- to be announced
idle jay
Hopefully the big one
But there is more thank likely going to be several more updates this year so the next one could just be content updates like Desolation
Which I'm all for
balmy nimbus
3 are part of the same narrative story, to me
from Abyss awakening till simulations merge
cursive kernel
@orchid relic collecting supplies is kinda just a "hey look at me, I have stuff"
Like when I picked that and collected the supplies I got like thousands of ammo
crisp fern
they expect you to be the worst shot, lol
idle jay
Yeah I went from around 1000 at the start to over 6000 at the end
velvet light
I need help, can someone explain the ending to me? Will I lose all my progress? What will happen? Yes I’ve had the game for 3 days now I’m a noob 🆘
idle jay
@velvet light Your not going to lose any of your things. The only bad thing is that your tech would get damaged
It's basically a new game +
velvet light
So all the items in my inventory will still be there? And my base will it remain where it is?
idle jay
Yeah
You would even be able to teleport back to it still
Just make sure that if you want to return to the new galaxy then you place a base there as well
velvet light
So it will take me to a new galaxy?
uncut harness
You "make your own Galaxy" but it's just a dif galaxy
idle jay
^
velvet light
Oh alright pretty cool I thought I’d lose everything lol
wanton path
i can say now, Desolation is very procedural
wanton path
can't wait to see something this procedural applied to planet settlements, stations and so
velvet light
And btw any help I receive will be much appreciated, I’m very new to the game, I’m 3 days into the game
uncut harness
Wasn't something about procgen land buildings datamined?
I think i read that here on discord, but I may be misremembering
tranquil raft
I'll ask again; Does anyone know what futuregek means and why its so insulting to Gek I say it to when I practice language?
velvet light
It’s equivalent to saying fuck you in lizard language
tranquil raft
thats the best i can gather too
velvet light
I was joking I also don’t know but if it’s offensive to them so it’s probably something like that
mighty rampart
I'll ask again; Does anyone know what futuregek means and why its so insulting to Gek I say it to when I practice language?
are you asking this seriously or is this a high brow joke
tranquil raft
I'm serious. I mean I try as many words as I can to get the gifts they usually give me, but sometimes I get FutureGek and they get pissed. Another one I noticed is sometimes if I use the word Korvax on Korvax some of them like it some of them get pissed
mighty rampart
ok so the deal is that the words in themselves arent offensive/affectionate
to simplify, you say a word that may or may not be good to say and you get a reward/punishment
the more words you learn the higher change of getting rewarded instead of punished
I'm not sure on this but I think it also depends what you say to a race, like being nice to a Vykeen will be bad for example so you wont use words related to "friend" and threatening them is almost always rewarding
tranquil raft
Its just hard to find a good use for FutureGek. SalesGek or ToilGek I can understand what the word means, but FutureGek I don't see why it would piss them off. But thank you for explaining the mechanics
I guess ill just avoid the word from now on
mighty rampart
if these were your options, then SalesGek would be the best
will surely reward you with units
tranquil raft
Thanks!
mighty rampart
the game is basically picking the most appropriate word from the 4 choices you get
tranquil raft
I thought it was more deep than that, I was looking at their name, the hologram in their hand, what they were saying
mighty rampart
nah its pretty superficial
all that matters is the race personality
geks love to trade
vykeen love to fight and insult
tranquil raft
oh one more thing does it matter what you look like? do they react to me differently if im a gek talking to a gek?
mighty rampart
and uh I have no clue on korvax
tranquil raft
ive never changed
mighty rampart
no it doesnt matter, they all still see you as a traveller
lore wise, apparently they can easily tell you're wearing a disguise
uncut harness
@tranquil raft never accuse the of being a synthetigek
sinful eagle
mighty rampart
stellar intelligence
uncut harness
kill it
In space violence is how you interact with stuff
Unless it phones you first
open canyon
kill it for wasting your time
tiny thistle
How do I get the squid looking spaceship?
mighty rampart
buy the void egg from the quicksilver shop in the space anomaly
and start pulse driving around outside in space until you get a warning about an anomalous encounter
will start a long and time consuming mission that rewards you with a ship in the end
uncut harness
@tiny thistle it's a rare model but some systems spawn it
you can get portal coords to some Systems with the color you want
tiny thistle
So is it more rare than the ball looking S class ship?
uncut harness
yeah I think
I have an orange one
There's this one coord where it's a crashed orange squid ship with 20 slots
so a free exotic s class
tiny thistle
I see, well I don't want to cheat getting it so I'll find it on my own but thanks
uncut harness
@tiny thistle that's not really cheating doe
there's this one system where it spawns first wave
I mean your loss man my squids nice
tiny thistle
Hmmmm
Alright I'll look into coords
But one more thing, where do I get living ship upgrades if there are any
prime inlet
pulse around with your living ship in uncharted systems
until you get a space encounter called void egg
tiny thistle
I see
prime inlet
shoot it, upgrade module is added to your ships inventory
you can also upgrade modules with nanites after they are installed (you could install a C class spewing vents mod, and upgrade it to S class)
tiny thistle
Ok thanks
teal rivet
anyone got all the glyphs and can help me bypass a portal?
teal rivet
why dupe so many lmao
topaz crag
i wanna give back to the community
they have helped me so much
so i thought i would give back
teal rivet
dish em out in anomaly
ocean prawn
wow thats a LOT
merry gate
@topaz crag i would love one of them there void eggs. fsr they're not available at quicksilver store for me
merry gate
sorry for delay. opening now
Hate to be that guy but how do I see my code? I tried from title menu and got nothing. I'm now in game and can't find itm
topaz crag
go to network
merry gate
I did. I hit show my code and nothing happens.
Well the show my code option disappears but that's it
topaz crag
huh...
merry gate
Yea.
topaz crag
do you have xbox?
topaz crag
so.. no?
merry gate
It's a cross platform game
topaz crag
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merry gate
Not working. I'm going to get my shit together. Thank you
Troubleshooting here I come
topaz crag
lol
uncut harness
Is it just me or is the variation alot better on weekend event planets?
idle jay
It might be because they specifically pick stuff like the mega exotics
last field
Somebody tell me is there actual variation with these derelict freighters or is it always the same?
Because I've got the same one with the same layout and story two times in a row
nocturne zephyr
a step up from other features if you ask me
nocturne zephyr
same system?
last field
yeah...
nocturne zephyr
that's why
last field
just noticed that...
idle jay
Only one freighter per system
last field
Am so stupido
craggy sluice
It's like a procedural roguelike/lite dungeon in space
open canyon
is it just me or is movement speed dropped inside them?
craggy sluice
It's a great start for potential procedural dungeons in planets
open canyon
like pre tecch upgrade levels i guess
craggy sluice
It's by design
last field
btw are their more monsters than the defence system and these green jellyfish?
because I'm kinda scared that there are not
nocturne zephyr
movement speed is dropped but you can still run
yeah i hope they rework the crashed freighters, allowing more procedural interiors
and maybe even underground procedural stuff
imagine exploring a cave and discovering an entrance to a procedural cave dungeon
craggy sluice
Yeah I imagine that the rules will be like in playermade bases where we can't edit the terrain and structure
Chalice dungeons....hmmm?
mental socket
that would prevent anyone from digging up the dungeon if they removed permission around it
since the rooms obviously load only a small portion at a time
nocturne zephyr
im sure this would be a much more difficult task for HG, unless it was in one large structure like the freighters
mental socket
Yup. Don't they already unload planets entirely when aboarding those
craggy sluice
They already nailed the foundation of procedural dungeons, they just need to expand it and improve around it
nocturne zephyr
i'd love just procedural focused updates
mental socket
Well addint it on planets would require some way of determining where all the rooms will branch out to cover that area with edit restrictions
craggy sluice
Btw, what does "Asteroids are now deterministic" mean? It's in the patch notes
mental socket
they follow the proc gen
so they always generate in the same way in the same spots
Previously it was entirely random so same asteroid wouldn't generate there again
nocturne zephyr
...
mental socket
This potentially opens up a possibility for asteroid bases since we do have those that are made out of chonky voxel terrain
craggy sluice
Hmmm... I wonder why
mental socket
Just my assumption. Idk why else they would want asteroids to follow this rule
craggy sluice
Yeah its possible. Exploration on asteroids
nocturne zephyr
it's a strange move, making all the asteroids appear the same all the time...
mental socket
and why does the mech have animation for zero gravity?
It isn't even supposed to be able to go in space
nocturne zephyr
the mech feels like it's in its early stages.
mental socket
Asteroids have slowly became more static. First they removed asteroid rotation around NEXT-Beyond
And now this
nocturne zephyr
wow.
craggy sluice
Yeah and the jetpack power and duration. You can fully appreciate it in low grav planets
mental socket
Well solid locations are perfect for asteroid bases. The old system couldn't possibly support that since after you left and came back, the asteroid wouldn't generate there
Now it always does, just like planet terrain
nocturne zephyr
makes sense
sturdy acorn
are you saying that we can base in space?
nocturne zephyr
ugghh but...more basebuilding updates? 😠
sturdy acorn
wonder how much towering up that would require
mental socket
Oh btw. Space gravity for player character also got changed. Now the player can acquite great speeds and "swim" in space
nocturne zephyr
whut?
mental socket
and with the jetpack charge you can basically fly infinitely
nocturne zephyr
ok
mental socket
The player swims in space xD
nocturne zephyr
this is a hint at future content def
mental socket
you gotta try it
sturdy acorn
what's the easiest way to get onto an asteroid then?
cause you can't just land on them
mental socket
jump off a frigate and let it fall far away from the fleets gravity area
craggy sluice
Oh btw. Space gravity for player character also got changed. Now the player can acquite great speeds and "swim" in space
@mental socket yeah I've seen people swim in space and jump on asteroids since last update
sturdy acorn
hm
nocturne zephyr
random thought, what if dead planets could have mini domes where various biomes could flourish... (not all of them)
sturdy acorn
and only the big asteroids work, not the little ones, right?
nocturne zephyr
i think just the big ones
mental socket
That used to be the case but
now the little ones seem to have collision with player as well
nocturne zephyr
plus
mental socket
They certainly didn't have before
@sturdy acorn No advantages as of yet
Except from looking cool
nocturne zephyr
we can get more stuff from the asteroids, so it's safe to assume something regarding asteroids is coming
craggy sluice
What do we have in datamining right now?
sturdy acorn
now i wanna play space engineers in NMS
mental socket
Oh yea. Where are all the dataminers?
sturdy acorn
they're off mining diamonds
craggy sluice
Maybe investigating the cryptic trailer?
sturdy acorn
it's amateur hour when it comes to the trailer
lost jolt
how did asteroids act in multiplayer, before this update?
if they werent deterministic and were random, couldnt they be different for different people in the same group?
(coming in late on that talk, but its a thought that came to mind)
gloomy isle
Maybe asteroid bases soon then?
lost jolt
i was thinking the opposite, that it was just a consistency fix
it could look weird flying together with friends, then you see your friend fly straight through a giant asteroid like a ghost
crisp fern
if that were the case there's a bunch more consistency fixes needed for clipping stuff, lol
solar glacier
alright i just got my free b class frieghter
so im just gonna start building a shit ton of storage rooms
bam im done
idle jay
It's interesting that they have those things for space. Space gravity changing for the player, the mech having a zero g animation, asteroids being solid (which is an older thing but still interesting). It would be weird to implement things or make changes like that if it's going nowhere
kind sail
Yeah I'm with you...it's not like any of those were game breaking issues that had to be fixed or added.
idle jay
Especially if it is something that's not really meant to happen right now
crisp fern
aren't anomaly detectors supposed to help detect anomalies? 
heady wyvern
@crisp fern Yes. Use them in your inventory, then activate the pulse drive.
crisp fern
been pulsing for awhile with one active & nothin' so far
crisp fern
what types of star system have ya been using them? any?
mighty rampart
any
first time was blue, then a few whites
that's how I saw the jelly boi and realised they messed it up
crisp fern
crisp fern
lol
the stellar anomalies/space encounters are supposed to appear in every star system, right? yellow/red/green/blue
mighty rampart
yes
there is at least one anomaly even if its just the derelict freighter and nothing else
crisp fern
mighty rampart
but you're not the only one who is complaining about this, other people have also reported it
crisp fern
this one must be really hidden or something
I'm not complaining just yet, trying to make sure i understand it first
mighty rampart
it guarantees a spawn within a few seconds
I havent done that many, but so far all of them have been under 5 seconds
crisp fern
Well so far my experience is not that, lol
I let it go for a solid 3 minutes just now
brittle kelp
I wonder why that is, where you flying really close to planets or very far away? I’ve noticed that there is a certain range where anomalies can spawn and maybe this applies to derelict freighters too
crisp fern
i was flying from around the inner portion of the star system, around planets, just outward for awhile till i got far away, with nothing appearing
then i've been flying more inward but not super close to planets to try and find something
brittle kelp
Huh, weird. Maybe you’re just unlucky?
crisp fern
that or that and they have a much lower chance of appearing in yellow star systems
brittle kelp
I remember someone was making a space encounter spreadsheet ages ago when they first came out but I have no idea what happened to it or if the data is still relevant
idle jay
That would make sense I guess
mighty rampart
wait @crisp fern just to confirm, you are doing this using the new anomaly scanner consumable?
vestal prism
Wow. That’s a really cool design for a explorer
mighty rampart
so you go "begin scan", then pulse drive, and it even shows that scanning thingy too?
crisp fern
mhm
mighty rampart
report it then
crisp fern
i'm not sure if it's a bug or just that yellow star systems suck for stellar anomalies, lol
mighty rampart
you should get any anomaly
if you're constantly flying with no popup that's a bug
crisp fern
simple way to test this, i'll hop over to another yellow star system. collected a few more detectors to experiment with
mighty rampart
ye or well any system
crisp fern
curious primarily about yellow ones now, as i've read that the others do seem to have more frequent anomalies
mighty rampart
well like I said I only did one coloured and rest was yellow
crisp fern
aaah, you didn't mention the rest were yellow tho
also uhhh, apparently that detector stays active for awhile if it doesn't catch anything
mighty rampart
first time was blue, then a few whites
crisp fern
white != yellow
mighty rampart
oh well I meant yellow, my bad
crisp fern
i thought maybe you had meant more blues
no worries
Hmm, gonna try relaunching the game and if it's still bringing up nothing, time to report it as bugged
yeah no idea what's going on with'em but they seem to be bugged for me
mighty rampart
F
crisp fern
i'm pretty sure stellar anomalies appear even in creative mode, but i'm also not sure if i've run into any in creative mode
mighty rampart
oh yeah that's an interesting thought
are you even getting random anomalies to begin with
crisp fern
not really, but i also wasn't looking for any again until i was trying to use the detectors
and without those you really do have to go out of your way to run into them, at least in my experience
mighty rampart
ya same for me but the detector definitely is working for me
I wonder what causes this bug, only a select few here reported it so far
crisp fern
okay nah, i have seen them in creative
I partly wonder if maybe I dropped out of pulse too quickly after activating it? But I could have swore I gave it at least a minute to do anything
haughty rover
So what magical planet does the game send you too if u get them glyphs from the travelers?
wheat remnant
for me it was a rocky abandoned planet, it random @haughty rover I reccomend building a base at your portal thou
haughty rover
I don't care about going to it at all tbh
safe plume
@crisp fern so how many hours would it take to get that ship? (I assume S tier is the best?) I just started yesterday and I'm not looking to maximise profits or anything. Just going about discovering things myself
haughty rover
Ask where they came from @rancid lance
rancid lance
👍
haughty rover
Cost 100 nanites
craggy sluice
Imagine a procedural dungeon in an abandoned asteroid mining facility where you can use the mech...
tepid iris
if we're using the mech indoors, it'll need to rotate a bit better 😛
grizzled apex
Has anyone managed to datamine the update in depth?
grizzled apex
Anything else? Other than the string for pets and sketching
tepid iris
pets?
crisp fern
so how many hours would it take to get that ship? (I assume S tier is the best?) I just started yesterday and I'm not looking to maximise profits or anything. Just going about discovering things myself
@safe plume what ship? one i'm flying? i don't remember where i picked it up, or how long i was playing the save when i found it, but it wasn't s-class to begin with.
think it was b or a-class and tossed a class upgrade or two at it to test things after the...Synthesis update, think it was.
safe plume
Oneza's Decree
grizzled apex
@tepid iris yea
tepid iris
then I missed out, can you recap all the datamining so far? 🙂
grizzled apex
References to Pets and "Sketching" are all I know unfortunately
vague badge
I'd love a pet crawler from their freighters
haughty rover
Found a asteroid larva can't seem to kill it 🤔
strong bluff
Yep. We can´t kill it (we do it 0 damage) and also it can´t hurt us with its hypnotizing gaze for some reason.
Maybe because our ship protects us from it? 🤔
haughty rover
Probably bugged in some way 🙃
strong bluff
But generally the asteroid larva just seems to me to be reskinned hypnotic gazer found in under water, not much properly implemented.
Just that they used it because they saw it cool.
haughty rover
🤷♂️
grizzled apex
@strong bluff most of the space encounters are really shallow imo, like they were rushed for release
There is so much more HG can do with them
grizzled apex
Replace the useless derelict with the new one and make it rare.
Make the space larva an anomaly that can pull you out of warp and then you have to fight it. (Avoidable using some technology)
Make the rubble of the first spawn Landable (if possible) or allow us to mine a piece and give to to the guild envoy or the scrap dealer.
Make the child of helios scannable. The scan data can be given to the explorers guild to get standing or nanites.
Add a small mission to the mission board where you must hunt down secret listening posts and either extract information to give to authorities or destroy them.
Make pirate stations have pirate ships around it. It could have a mission to extract info or signals from it
The messenger of Atlas could be made unique by having small bits of Atlas lore
Or giving the player an atlas word
And make the relic gates slightly more useful by having a mission which has you travel through one and measure the distance. You are then able to warp back to the origin system to report your findings
Yea
strong bluff
Seeing that the Starbirth quest has prescripted random encoutners, I think that they mostly added it for Living ship storyline.
And then added the rest ones due seeing it cool, instead of fleshing it out properly as normal gameplay element.
grizzled apex
Exactly
strong bluff
Also most of the anomalous encounters can´t be even encountered until progressing in the quest.
Until that you´ll only encounter abandonded freighter.
grizzled apex
I'm gonna send this to hg
grizzled apex
Funny thing.
Here xbox tweets a gif of flame throwers asking for a multitool update and soon we find a flamethrower weapon
mental socket
@grizzled apex wait, did they?
grizzled apex
Yup
mental socket
directly to sean?
grizzled apex
Yes
mental socket
flamethrower time
mental socket
I'm just wondering one thing. What will be the anniversary update this year
grizzled apex
If there is one
Just saying
There are improved animal files and zero g control files in game now
mental socket
The one that will have the traditional blog from Sean with
"Marking the four year anniversary of No Man’s Sky..."
Doesn't necessarily have to be any huge update. Just something anniversary worthy and flashy
grizzled apex
Yea
That line would make me cry
Tbh I cant belive I've been here since 1.0
Not the discord but the game
Its come so far
mental socket
Yeah. Same
grizzled apex
Foundations seems like it cam out yesterday
mental socket
I remember the first update trailer that dropped and just listening to the trailer lady
grizzled apex
And I got hyped af
mental socket
good times
mental socket
I never really participated in WT. Only watched from the side as people solved stuff
but wait a moment. Zero g and animal files? When, what where?
mental socket
I tried some commands myself on the site ofc
grizzled apex
but wait a moment. Zero g and animal files? When, what where?
@mental socket
Check #nms-modding
mental socket
ah
mental socket
can we assume that the next update will happen around the time tier 3 get completed?
That's what happened with the previous ones. Every time a tier got completed they announced/teased something and soon after an update would drop
at least for the content drops after Beyond that is
gloomy isle
What items are in the tiers
mental socket
titles
gloomy isle
Aah ok
So desolation dropped once we got the tiers for ship trails done? If so yeah I guess that makes sense
Basically did that with the void egg too
mental socket
and exo mech dropped after we got tiers for whatever we had done
fervent eagle
Found a cult, boys!
kind sail
peels skin off
fervent eagle
Oh baby
mighty rampart
I mean the korvax are pretty much digital beings
fervent eagle
yeah, but convincing a non-digital entity to shed their flesh is kinda... culty
mighty rampart
and Geks are somewhat digital thanks to the nanite injections during the war
eventually one of them was bound to become a part of the convergence
fervent eagle
yeah, but do THEY know that?
mighty rampart
they dont its a subconscious thing
fervent eagle
iirc, consciously, the Gek of today don't really know WHY they wanna be friendly and trade all the time
yeah
just the Vy'keen know the gek are terrible either way lol
mighty rampart
"must trade must trade must trade must upload must trade must trade"
this is still so funny to me
"why board the freighter? I'll just board your mainframe"
fervent eagle
lol
I saw that on the reddit, too
But yeah, the gek on that freighter totally killed themselves. I'm sure of it
meager stag
Anything fun data mined?
sand karma
In regards to "can we expect a new update by the end of the current quicksilver tiers" that'd be no most likely.
sand karma
Well generally we have a few rounds of tiers. It'd make 3 updates in 3 months which would be unprecedented.
But who knows. Expecting it of course isn't the right approach as you already pointed out tho. :)
nocturne zephyr
At the least, a few quicksilver items and a more complex weekend event
sand karma
Yeah that does seem pretty likely :)
nocturne zephyr
This year's update schedule has been pretty unusual
gloomy isle
It's like they're doing a big update but slowly
nocturne zephyr
I don't think a big one is out of the picture. Sure, Sean stated that they'd like to do smaller, more regular updates (which they have been), but I feel their ambition and excitement takes over, and their smaller teams work together to put various features into one big package to blow our minds.
uncut harness
Not to mention it's easier to manage and fix bugs in sequential patches for smaller updates
With larger update who knows what would take priority to get fixed
nocturne zephyr
Yep, the new schedule seems to have given us much more consistent bug fixes
gloomy isle
@nocturne zephyr I personally feel that we will get a big one this year, be it in the summer or like September time. But I think that it'll be more streamlined, with a specific focus and without all the extra features. I get why, since releasing them when theyre ready means you can fix the game easier since the updates aren't so sprawling
Just my opinion
mighty rampart
I really hope they stop adding more features
and improve upon existing ones just like Desolation
gloomy isle
Plus, variety is a good candidate for a single focus update
Yeah desolation was good
nocturne zephyr
I would love one, big update that focuses only on one feature
mighty rampart
I'm fine with VR, gave them good sales
nocturne zephyr
And multiplayer by itself
nocturne zephyr
Now, variation . By. Itself.
mighty rampart
and it shouldnt just be "ok here we updated colours and assets are u happy now??"
gloomy isle
It's legit the best candidate for a yearly update tbh
nocturne zephyr
I see more people talking and asking for it than ever before
gloomy isle
It's a feature big enough to be a headline change, and there's not many other single big things people want
nocturne zephyr
Colors is a tiny part of the problem tbh
gloomy isle
At a push maybe a combat pillar would go well, since it might would support exploration too
mighty rampart
ya there should be proper atmosphere to things, I want the prime NMS feel back
nocturne zephyr
mhm
gloomy isle
Plus with the galaxy thing that's been datamined
It seems more probable than ever
And it means people can keep bases
nocturne zephyr
You referring to the discussion from modding today?
mighty rampart
2.6 is the most fun I've had since I got the game at 1.75
2.0 was cool for being less grindy and actual mp but it did not feel like a 2.0 update
nocturne zephyr
I agree
gloomy isle
Tbh I don't feel like the old style is coming back, but I feel like people dislike the new style because it's less varied anyway
mighty rampart
and it was grossly overshadowed by 2.2
summer kindle
i haven't really played since launch, I bought it on ps4, played 20 hours, tried playing now and again, then quit and gave up. just bought it on steam so that way I could play with mods if I wanted to
mighty rampart
nice
gloomy isle
There's getting to be a few pointers to a variety update too
Sean basically teased a huge summer update (which definitely wasn't desolation, even if it is really cool)
Big visual changes
And support to allow galaxies to change planet generation
nocturne zephyr
I still think those glitched images show landscapes
Wouldn't mind if it even came out during the winter
Heck if it was an actual planetary variation update solely focused on that, I'd wait till next summer.
mental socket
and the new system allows them to keep euclid as it is whilst performing radical changes to other galaxies past that
just speculating tho
gloomy isle
I honestly wouldn't mind waiting longer than usual, especially with the small updates we're getting. However, I do think we'll see something this summer
mental socket
And tbh, what else could they add. New stuff indicates things with animals, gravity, space and galaxy algorithm
gloomy isle
True
nocturne zephyr
Whatever enhances exploration
gloomy isle
And we've already seen a partial space overhaul
mental socket
so we can assume upcoming "significant releases" will be built on these systems
idk
base building turret parts, wind turbines and other stuff has been there since beyond I think
never touched afterwards
thorny sail
maybe we can switch between pre-next and post-next galaxies with their respective terrain generation somehow, the planet count stayed the same aswell as their distribution
mental socket
so these new things could also mean nothing
nocturne zephyr
Hopefully they leave them untouched for a while longer
mental socket
Yup, base building and missions aren't the thing they should be focusing right now imo
nocturne zephyr
Nopesters
mental socket
There is plenty of freedom and possibilities with current base building already
inb4 living base parts update 2.7
nocturne zephyr
I suppose, for the basebuilders, they could allow a switch between current building and glitch building, but nothing further
mental socket
base building needs more snap points in vanilla.
gloomy isle
I mean if the parts are nearly done, they could add them if they have the time
nocturne zephyr
If they're done yeah
gloomy isle
Wouldn't hurt if they're basically done
mental socket
we don't need any more base parts. That starship race initiator from base disc of NEXT would be neat
if they fixed it
mental socket
I believe that this years anniversary update will be about proc gen
mighty rampart
I believe that this year's anniversary update will be new QS deco
mental socket
solely generation with some fixes and QoL stuff. That would be worthy of an anniversary title whilst not being a huge patch with a pile of content
mighty rampart
maybe the other two starship trails
nocturne zephyr
Lol
gloomy isle
I think it's safe to say we'll get at least something for the anniversary
haughty rover
Anyone think new dlc was rushed?
nocturne zephyr
Not really
But I do think it opens up new doors in terms of procedural interiors for future content
It's sorta small, but it feels like one of the least rushed updates we've gotten.
Now visions. Visions felt rushed
haughty rover
Just it's rather buggy
nocturne zephyr
Usually
haughty rover
Then the big list of fixes on the experimental the next day
haughty rover
Maybe they put pressure on them to release it quicker 🤷♂️
mental socket
maybe it was supposed to be one of these smaller content drops to keep people busy
and maintain good average of daily players
haughty rover
But having bulkheads being bugged kind of the main element of it
mental socket
and whatever happened to the old build test
haughty rover
Something odd about it
nocturne zephyr
Would be exciting if that came back
mental socket
it was added in 2017 and updated several times
wait a moment
ah nvm
it was deleted on 16 April 2019
checking the db history
quite a while ago
haughty rover
What's the purpose of the experimental Azure?
mental socket
experimental is for testing bug fixes and stuff before they get pushed into public
you can opt in to experimental on steam and get all the fixes early on but that's about it
haughty rover
They don't test content before release?
mental socket
They do but experimental is for bug fix testing
haughty rover
I mean on the experimental 😖
mental socket
Ah, nope
haughty rover
Ah ok
gloomy isle
Experimental is for testing
mental socket
well they did test crossplay but that wasn't exactly a "content update"
gloomy isle
That's why it tells you to back up your files
haughty rover
Guess they can't really use it for content testing
Then Sean won't be able to troll everyone 😂
elder frost
what do u guys think is the best ending?
haughty rover
A happy ending
elder frost
resetting the simulation or not
haughty rover
U playing the matrixs 🤔
mental socket
maybe not
mighty rampart
congratulations you have reached the true ending
elder frost
lmfao
brittle kelp
Did you try turning it off and on again? There’s probably a reset button somewhere
elder frost
Yeah, i restarted it like 5 times.
vestal prism
Made it to the end of the Artemis Path for the very first time... Now... what to choose?
elder frost
Tell me if ur game crashes
i was going to choose the green one
the inspiring
but idk whats the difference between those 4
mighty rampart
what kind of planets are more likely to spawn
green - Eissentam - more lush
blue - Budullangr - more dead
red - Calypso - more extreme weather/activated mineral
yellow - Hilbert - nothing special
rancid lance
have you always been able to make an animal follow you?
cuz i just did #nms-photomode-gallery
rancid lance
I fed jt using the auto feeder
Then i got a prompt that says "tame" instead of "mount"
Using its preferred bait, mind you
Usually when i fed animals in the past it just fucks off after i harvested it for mats
safe tide
Found a b class hauler with 44+7 slots going for about 63 mill, buy or nah?
It’s gonna make me fucking poor for sure though haha
safe tide
What the hell happened to this chat lol. Any help?
Ignore this please, wrong channel lmao
dry kraken
How many nanites do you get at the end of derelict if you pick that option?
sturdy acorn
500-700 for me, usually
strong bluff
Forgot.
dry kraken
Boo
sturdy acorn
500-700 is still pretty good though
dry kraken
I just shoot the slime
strong bluff
If you collect it (I had above 1000),which you can then refine to mould colony and to Nanites.
pallid latch
Does advancing your system's date not affect the void egg quest anymore? (I know I'm a dirty cheater for being impatient)
cloud walrus
not completely sure , but i think you need to do it with internet turned off for it to work, dunno if it still working
strong bluff
I think that time in NMS is server-side, at least when you are online.
So it passess even when you pause or shut down the game.
But in offline game, idk... 🤔
haughty rover
What's a star seed do?
severe sun
nocturne zephyr
Animated
mental socket
hmm
nocturne zephyr
Honestly that is a cool idea when you consider the fact that any creature could become a hologram once you discover it
Rare
sturdy acorn
scan a gek, have its hologram version t-posing as a centerpiece of your base
cursive kernel
@mental socket wtf is that
mental socket
Most likely the part would just contain a creature seed and project the value with scan texture applied
cursive kernel
Nah I think it would be like the taxidermy bases in ARK
You can choose which creature to put it on
mental socket
The hologram basically lets you choose a discovered creature from your log and set it to display that on top of it
But the functionality is seed based ofc. Similar to how the game fetches the model in discovery menu. It isn't stored anywhere. Only the seed value is
cursive kernel
How would we get that
mental socket
We can't. Probably never will. Or they might add it. Who knows
strong bluff
So story of the Derelict freighter I am at (Captain´s log) is that the freigther was full of Geks who were promised to become heroes remaking old trade routes, etc. But true purpose of the freighter was to hold there (or take s omewhere) some super secret artifact. Eventually crew found about it (and artifact started talking to everybody) and captain murdered everybody, but it had a "price".
Though I wonder what does with that also do mentioned infection and that crew took some weird water from a planet? And how there appeared the green jellyfishes? (Though they are from The Abyss, Artifact was probably too.).
And I probably won´t find it, but I would so like to find somewhere the artifact, the fate of the captain and do some interaction with the artifact.
Though I already in my inventory have some haunted relic.
Frozen Hearth, part of some abyssall horror.
elder frost
i can reset the simulation just once ? or i can do it like 4 times and get the 4 galaxies?
sturdy acorn
you can do it infinite times afaik
sturdy acorn
if you have a teleporter in that galaxy, yes
elder frost
alright
strong bluff
Though watch out, teleporting between galaxies can crash your game (happened to me once).
After reset.
bleak zodiac
@pallid latch yeah you gotta play around with your internet settings. And then turn it back on AFTER you've fully logged back in
harsh pelican
Speedrun strats
If you need to scan for electromagnetic/mineral/gaseous areas during a nexus mission and you don't have the tool required
The game gives you the blueprint AND the materials needed to make that tool
vocal shoal
nms in paper mario origami king confirmed
cursive kernel
Nms switch confirmed (NOT CLICKBAIT)
harsh pelican
NO MAN'S MARIO
cursive kernel
@wind panther
Low quality screenshot for some reason but I found something that might be upcoming
harsh pelican
How did you find that?
wind panther
Strange. Why does it say 'Tame'?
cursive kernel
@harsh pelican trying to get shit to cook
@wind panther presumably for the future when they add pets
crisp fern
doesn't it also just say that when trying to ride them or something
harsh pelican
Creating something that doesn't exist when attempting to cook? Is that the mark of a great chef or a terrible one?
harsh pelican
I do
cursive kernel
Leopard fruit is the felid bait harvest item
crisp fern
when you feed an animal it says you've "tamed" them
so think it's just related to the revised fauna interactions Beyond intro'd
harsh pelican
Question: Who else deliberate avoids the Nexus missions themed around taming animals?
idle jay
I do. I tried to do one once and it was awful
idle jay
I was able to get most of them but it took me an hour or more to get the last of them
harsh pelican
Owch
cursive kernel
@crisp fern that "tame" button was not there as far as i remember
mighty rampart
Question: Who else deliberate avoids the Nexus missions themed around taming animals?
I deliberately do those the most because its the fastest one
probably because of my amazing luck with animals spawning when I need them to
mighty rampart
this Gek captain got pretty self aware
but huh interesting that apparently the whole glass thing is something everyone just knows
actually this is bigger than what I first thought
basically everyone knows about the 16 mins even if they dont know the actual specific meaning of it
grizzled apex
Ghosts in the machines makes it seem like it makes em freak out
haughty rover
Living ship update.
All players lose thier LS.
New encounter rebellion LS groups.
If shot and survived. You can chose to Fuse your ship with LS making a unique looking ship.
Or chose to find a cure and well cure the infusion
mighty rampart
you've been watching too many anime
haughty rover
I don't watch that shit
mighty rampart
wow rude
mighty rampart
thus rude
haughty rover
To whom?
mighty rampart
to shit
haughty rover
So u think comparing anime to shit is rude..
mighty rampart
even shit wouldnt want to be compared with it
wanton path
Ariadne wtf?
so
this new enemy comes in a giant space ship?
are we getting raid bosses? 🤔
grizzled apex
Anyone have the portal glyphs of the system where we found ariadne's ship?
uncut harness
Do you member when did that event take place?
Jugding from my screenshot folder this might be it, taken at the same day as the event
idle jay
I'm thinking everyone knows about the 16 minutes because it's a side effect of being simulated by the Atlas. It's kind of like something they instinctually know about but can't figure out the reason for it
Something along the lines of that
idle jay
That's pretty bizarre
cursive kernel
Wait that one fucked in the anomaly that looks like Stray Cat from part 4
this new enemy comes in a giant space ship?
@wanton path ???
idle jay
The latest weekend lore
wanton path
yeah
idle jay
I can DM it all to you if you want
cursive kernel
Aight
crisp fern
so probably pure luck, but ran into a space encounter, hyperspace nav. station, and the numbers it gave me? valid portal coordinates.
First contact, uncharted system, seems no one's been here at a glance...
cursive kernel
Try it
mighty rampart
damn I should have tried with my numbers station too
crisp fern
...I did, that's how I know what I said at the end there, lol
Numbers stations provide more than 16 numbers though, don't they?
mighty rampart
oh yeah that's different from hyperspace navigation station
cursive kernel
@crisp fern where did it take you
crisp fern
uncharted blue star system couple planets, couple moons, undiscovered by anyone else
nothing outta the ordinary so far
haughty rover
Ever wish a bigger company bought HG and added a big dev team to it.
cursive kernel
Yes but actually no
Because that company could be EA
Or even Tencent or something
haughty rover
A company that didn't care about in game purchases. But maybe done paid dlc 🤔
wanton path
CDPR
haughty rover
But could add like 200 people to work on this game
wanton path
omg, just imaging that
cursive kernel
Idk but this game's updates have heart and soul behind them
cursive kernel
Yeah, there are always bugs
crisp fern
crash upon game exit just now, weird
cursive kernel
But I dont remember any game breaking bugs
wanton path
have you touched TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS or so?
wanton path
crash upon game exit just now, weird
@crisp fern have you touched TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS or so?
cursive kernel
Passion
wanton path
What is heart and soul?
@haughty rover Nada and Polo
crisp fern
not really
cursive kernel
I mean the entire game was just an idea
haughty rover
I just don't understand passion 😖
cursive kernel
If they weren't passionate about this game they wouldn't have released any updates
haughty rover
If it was passion there would be Alot more bug fixes 🤔
wanton path
passion meants almost nobody asked for delericts but DEVs put it in and people are loving it
and HG make delericts because they like Alien, 2001 and so...
cursive kernel
Idk people did want the wrecked freighters from living ship to do something
haughty rover
Also they will get boring in 2 weeks
mighty rampart
If it was passion there would be Alot more bug fixes 🤔
interestingly bad take
wanton path
I see the happiness in Sean's face playing the Delericts
mighty rampart
not even a 100 man team could fix all the bugs in this game
crisp fern
they're passionate about creating not doing maintenance work, lmao
haughty rover
Lol
mighty rampart
and bug fixing is incredibly stressful
cursive kernel
I mean they will fix game breaking bugs obviously
haughty rover
Awww it's stressful awww
wanton path
that remembers me... Hi Sean! How're you today?
cursive kernel
In beyond sitting in a chair and emoting softlocked you unless you reloaded
That was fixed
Like day 1 beyond i couldnt even visit new Lennon without crashing
idle jay
Yes bug fixing does become stressful if working on a big project like NMS
mighty rampart
they have released big bugfix patches all the time so saying they dont fix bugs or dont care to is incredibly short sighted
wanton path
I stay away from new big updates for a week or two
mighty rampart
because you're short sighted on the bugs that annoy you which havent been addressed yet
water horizon please be gone
cursive kernel
Tired of that one bug entering the nexus