And that still applies to asteroids?
#nms-spoilers
grizzled apex
mental socket
you couldn't straight away place a base computer on an asteroid
build menu won't open in space
grizzled apex
Ofc I forgot that
mental socket
you can build up out from the planets atmposhpere but the build menu will eventually force close
I built a staircase from a mountain to my freighter, had to use build cam glitch since it kept closing the menu
wind panther
Depends on the altitude. There's the grey zone where the build menu opens but the items won't stay. There's also the ability to build from a freighter or very small areas of frigates onto an asteroid, but it wouldn't stay
grizzled apex
Btw can someone reactivate the jetpack on the derelict? Might lead to more space mods
Space mining on foot could be a thing
wind panther
I haven't been able to test, didn't know it was disabled. No clue where that flag might be
mental socket
derelights seem to be quite a performance drain. All the planets and rings get hidden as you land on the freighter
grizzled apex
It is and I instantly thought that was to prevent players from mining asteroids as that's the only space point where you can draw your mt
wind panther
Yeah, if you go for a space walk you can mine. It's nothing special
mental socket
there is also terrain edit menu materials for space stuff but it's unusable
like space terrain has its own textures
grizzled apex
@mental socket huh. Never had that work
mental socket
for ocean, cave, mountain etc. There is a pool of textures for space terrain but you can't use it
but yea
asteroid building is now theoretically possible
old random asteroid placement couldn't have supported it since the asteroid would just not generate the same way ever again
wind panther
The three keys are being able to open the build menu, space addressing not moving everything over to the center of the system, and stuff above 1000u rendering on a reload
I'm not sure why they would bother making asteroids deterministic unless they planned to do something with it. There was nothing really wrong with the old way
mental socket
and zero gravity system in space
we currently do slowly fall "down" in space if we don't use jetpack
wind panther
They tweaked the gravity system in space when mechs came out. Not sure exactly how, but it was definitely different
mental socket
hmm, yup, you could "swim" in space after that
haughty rover
mental socket
but there was still a very light gravity pulling you "down"
pure pulsar
has anyone datamined anything new?
wind panther
I still think the main point of mechs is for space walks
mental socket
yup
haughty rover
Do they not test this stuff 🤔
mental socket
ofc they do but 26 people can only do so much with the amount of content they have
for example, buried bones can now give freighter loot
nobody probably even saw that coming or thought of trying it
haughty rover
I mean bulkheads can just be reusable not Alot of point going into a freighter
Blah I'm just pissed off
uncut harness
i heard bulkheads are glitched
haughty rover
Yea
tame sleet
wtf buried bones can give freighter loot?
what kind of bones are they? freighter bones?
surely it would make more sense to pair freighter loot with salvaged tech
haughty rover
mental socket
freighter also had buried treasure inside of them
like
"x years old" and "buried long ago"
etc
prime inlet
i've had it drop salvaged frigate modules, exosuit upgrade modules, ancient bones..
mental socket
umm, where was it buried? In the chest
grizzled apex
@wind panther did they?
haughty rover
No man's logic
grizzled apex
Haven't done a space walk in a while
haughty rover
?
wind panther
No, I think it's planned for the future
They maneuver much better in space and have three models: stationary, planet, and zero g
haughty rover
What is there to walk on
prime inlet
asteroids 😄
grizzled apex
@wind panther the mechs?
wind panther
Yeah
haughty rover
Weren't we ment to be able to land on them 🙃
wind panther
Monkeyman saw struct names for pets and 'sketching'
haughty rover
With bulk heads I thought i was given a reason to explore the derlect freighters. But now it's just the same as everything else..
All the same
wind panther
There hasn't been much time or ability to datamine yet
astral karma
pretty sure Jordan started datamining a few hours after the Steam update happened
mighty rampart
TIL Jordan does datamining
heavy isle
sturdy acorn
flamethrower?
tepid iris
I don't mind bones in the freighter
mighty rampart
damn those are some top tier effects
tepid iris
they could have been selling the bones 😛
I've carried bones a few times in my freighter
mighty rampart
can hardly believe this is NMS
tepid iris
but yeah, the other way around is definately a bug
heavy isle
Space chicken!
mighty rampart
I wish they add a little more physics to the floating stuff, its weird that I can push them if I move into them, but smacking with the multitool doesnt make them budge
they already have it in game with those giant spheres that you can smack around
wanton path
hoping for this kind of interiors on planets in future updates
I wish they add a little more physics to the floating stuff, its weird that I can push them if I move into them, but smacking with the multitool doesnt make them budge
@mighty rampart can you slap with your VR hands??
mighty rampart
would be fun to slap a disembodied hand
man it really doesnt feel like I was playing NMS, straight up felt like easy Dead Space
or alien isolation
sturdy acorn
slap my hand
sand karma
I'm literally finding so many freighters with the item that drops from astroid that I don't even have to buy the expensive thing. 😛
mighty rampart
@astral karma the Incinerator description says that it uses high heat lasers and gas reserves inside of the multitool to make the flame
sorry for the ping
mighty rampart
it has its own gas
tame sleet
but where is da oxidiser
astral karma
"haha science go BRRRRRRR"
mighty rampart
and it probably uses the lasers to pinpoint the heat so it doesnt go all over everywhere
astral karma
but what's the fun of a flammenwerfer if it doesn't cause MAXIMUM BRRRRRR?
uncut harness
I'll have to purchase a flamer then
mighty rampart
you cant
uncut harness
I need a third multi tool for all that space stuff
tame sleet
did they fix it?
mighty rampart
oh you meant buying the tool
uncut harness
I need another multi tool for the liquid sun extractor and the soul extractor
I'll make a multi tool that extracts souls AND burns
mighty rampart
haha
hybrid latch
Is it just me or do a lot of these symbols in the video look like the code wheels from Assassin's Creed
white shale
just played the new update
raided the dead ship
fought some "new" sentinels
can't say im a fan
another deadbeat update that adds nothing of value to the game. a "hat on a hat" as they call it.
grizzled apex
@hybrid latch try discussing this in #glyph-investigation
gloomy isle
Ooh
Keep it
One title is 'the watched' or something
Not sure if we know how to get it
tame sleet
apparently keeping abyssal samples in inventory will cause anomalies to randomly occur while pulsing
but i havent experienced it yet
rancid lance
will keep it then. thanks for the heads up
gloomy isle
Sounds interesting
chrome ice
I have a feeling if we don’t get some hint in some way to those symbols they either weren’t intentionally or it’s just an extremely hard thing to solve
tepid iris
Interesting: https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Terrifying_Sample
sand karma
I do enjoy those terrifying samples 😄
sand karma
Wiki says "Release Crossplay" tho. They were also in Living Ship already. 😄
rancid lance
i'm gonna die arent i
wait, so does this mean i can keep spawning derelict freighter without the use of a distress beacon
mighty rampart
Wiki is maintained by a pretty small group of people
so it will take them time to catch up
white shale
these recent updates feel like HG is just adding benign tumors to a recovering but albeit still trashy game. with the large updates, the gave content that was actually fleshed out, like adding completely new main missions in Atlas Rises, and each major update expanding upon basebuilding, adding the Nexus and better multiplayer in Beyond.
each big update topped the next and it felt like they were heading in a positive direction even if they didn't address every core issue from launch.
but with these recent updates, i feel like they're not giving themselves enough time to work on full proper updates that flesh out some massive features, and limiting themselves to these bullshit one-show-ponies that generate nothing you couldn't go without.
NMS is still a boring grindfest, and once you finish the grind, there's nothing to do with your resources.
but hey, at least you can slowly walk around a derelict freighter and collect "stuff"
mighty rampart
if anything, the subreddit is still stuck on Abyss and Visions
patent shale
@white shale what
mighty rampart
but hey, at least you can slowly walk around a derelict freighter and collect "stuff"
still better than "living ship with a single quest and no dice" and "new exocraft but it nerfs all the other exocrafts"
mighty rampart
nah I agree with most of it
it was pretty much the reason I was about to quit the game for good along with the server
Desolation is the way they should have done all these small updates
tepid iris
yeah this update is a lot better than Living Ship & Mech combined
meager stag
I guess it all depends on what the "more radical changes" are that they've mentioned. Smaller, more shallow updates to hold us over, leading up to something more substantial?
patent shale
but living ship is needed, that added space encounters that are cool and it adds a new type of ship which i prefer. If you put it coincide the space freighter update then it results in a lot more fleshed out space. And that was one of the main things the community wanted. Fleshed out space
meager stag
Desolation is obviously the best update this year though
mighty rampart
its about how they're added
meager stag
That's what it needs. The planet experience is lacking.
astral karma
just delete the planets and make it MMO Dead Space /s
patent shale
i guess apples and oranges then, i prefer them being small updates keeps the community engaged
wanton path
well, everybody was saying space was empty... now it's not
mighty rampart
I dont mind small updates
patent shale
^^
meager stag
I also think creatures could be so much better. Sean really talked up their intelligence pre launch.
patent shale
creatures got a bit of an ai update with next and they are certainly better
mighty rampart
but they keep doing this weird thing of adding something that just feels like a toy you mess with for sometime then forget about it
patent shale
but yeah still a bit of work
wanton path
now the game feels quite complete, having ton of content on foot, underwater and space
white shale
@meager stag oh not to mention, they did a complete bullshit lie about Sentinel spawning in larger waves in Desolation
meager stag
Yeah, they walk in packs and don't squeal like idiots any more...
patent shale
@white shale ill agree on that
meager stag
Maybe just a bug.
wanton path
@white shale have you considered it could be a bug????
meager stag
I couldn't find a single sentinel
patent shale
same
meager stag
Definitely a bug
astral karma
could be a bug since the patch released 24 hours ago
white shale
@wanton path I hope so, because thats bs
mighty rampart
and it was in Beyond they said they dont like that they add things to game without it having an overall balance
patent shale
yeah i was going round a planet looking for sentinels and i thought it was just me cause i couldnt find any and i was on a high sentinel planet
meager stag
They didn't just make up a patch note, ovvioy
meager stag
Obviously* wow
mighty rampart
but they were already repeating this problem with 2.3 and 2.4
add new thing that doesnt round up well as if someone just quickly modded it in
patent shale
i feel like theyre just adding them when theyre ready because why not, gives some depth
mighty rampart
but they dont give them depth, that's my problem
white shale
but they keep doing this weird thing of adding something that just feels like a toy you mess with for sometime then forget about it
@mighty rampart thats a good way of putting it
acoustic yacht
Are scrap dealer price increases permanent?
mighty rampart
and now they added random visuals that you can ignore in 2.3
Are scrap dealer price increases permanent?
they seem to reset
white shale
@patent shale yeah I guess, Living Ship did add a bit of aesthetic with the space encounters
but thats all it is
wanton path
you can't pretend for something like Desolation to be as Dead Space entire game with same depth...
white shale
aesthetic
mighty rampart
yep
wanton path
you can't pretend the same with underwater and subnautica...
mighty rampart
no one is saying that bro
Desolation actually has depth to it compared to these two
wanton path
ok sorry, but is what it seems
white shale
@wanton path if they actually spent a full 6 months on Desolation it could be
wanton path
really?
dry berry
How many pieces do i have to mature for the living ship? im on number 3 is there a fourth piece that needs to mature?
wanton path
how do you know it?
mighty rampart
I was totally expecting them to just hack up a normal freighter and add goo to it like the abandoned space stations
white shale
@mighty rampart isnt that what they did?
mighty rampart
no
wanton path
i find the depth correct for every aspect of the game tbh
white shale
feels like it to me slightly
mighty rampart
these are definitely not normal freighters, most of the interiors are new
white shale
true true
patent shale
with generated story
mighty rampart
and they added a whole new creature with different mechanics rather than reuse the good old alien horrors
white shale
but where is this procgen in normal freighters
mighty rampart
normal freighters wont have it since it would mess up things
white shale
and why cant i walk around in the actual boxes I shoot off the freighter?
patent shale
i think it might be a design decision to keep normal freighters the same
mighty rampart
you can see some similarities to the interiors of frigates
white shale
@mighty rampart how so? they have literal basebuilding inside freighters
patent shale
because if they were all proc gen then it would be harder to naviagte and learn where things are
mighty rampart
if you buy a freighter and it has like 3 floors of crap it will be annoying to delete it all
patent shale
^
white shale
wdym?
mighty rampart
that's why all freighters are consistent, not too many rooms and gives you the same template to work in
wanton path
empty interior
let's build
i hope eventually the proc and story generation will come to planet surface too
mighty rampart
the proc gen is used for frigate interiors
I've rarely seen two frigates be the exact same
wanton path
would be cool to see some npcs lands in front of you and start some business
white shale
@mighty rampart you're only restricted to build in a tiny portion of the ship tho anyway, i just dont get how you can have these city sized freighter crates on freighters and not have interior access. and shooting them has the same yield as looting a box on a planet
patent shale
also just thinking, the pilgrim update was just a worse exo mech update
white shale
theres no continuity
patent shale
when that dropped it was very similar to exo mech
mighty rampart
anyway you made me go on a tangent
patent shale
but the exo mech was fleshed out a lot more
wanton path
are we criticizing this way, this FREE updates?
white shale
🤷
wanton path
serously?
patent shale
@wanton path nah i think its good what they are doing
open canyon
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
astral karma
healthy criticism is fine, ad hominem is not c:
mighty rampart
that's how they take feedback you know
patent shale
ive liked every update so far, just not interestd in exo mech stuff really
mighty rampart
anyway stfu and let me continue what I wanted to say
white shale
@astral karma sean murray is a stinky boi
astral karma
-_-
wanton path
ok but there is nothing to do with something like "Oh, desolation is not like Dead Space, fuck it"
mighty rampart
no its the opposite
astral karma
they're two entirely different games still
mighty rampart
it IS very much like Dead Space but in NMS
wanton path
talking about that depth, you know...
astral karma
the comparison is made because Desolation has survival horror elements, and Dead Space is a survival horror IP
patent shale
^
mighty rampart
I'm talking about a different kind of depth
astral karma
like yea, one update isn't going to scratch the surface of Dead Space, but it is reminiscient
wanton path
but you can't compare the survival horror depth
mighty rampart
of course, that's too dumb
white shale
@astral karma survival horror elements where?
mighty rampart
NMS is NMS, and not Dead Space
tepid iris
I'm really curious for the next updates 👀
mighty rampart
if I want Dead Space I'll play Dead Space, not NMS
astral karma
@white shale I'm just going off what I've seen, I can't even run NMS to play the update 😛
white shale
all the baby horrors do is blow snot on you that does 1 dmg
and "ooh very dark flashlight ooh"
wanton path
next updates... hidden blade and "fuck this, Assassins creed did it better"
astral karma
I know there's no huge "survival" element but it's definitely hit the "horror" notes
white shale
i guess
astral karma
what with infestations and general "in space no one can hear you scream" vibes
patent shale
the one thing i dont understand s why people complain about it because you can get the items a different way than completing the derlict freighters. I feel like thats a good thing, cause it allows you to approach it in a different way and still get the items you want. Not just doing one thing ober and over
tepid iris
I really would love a weapon wheel while holding the key to switch your multi-tool
astral karma
like yea, it ain't actually scaring people, but you can tell where the inspiration may lie
white shale
@astral karma if you turn music off its not scary
mighty rampart
what I mean is why I like Desolation is because they actually rounded off the whole idea of derelict freighters: they're properly proc gen rooms, even the kind of enemies you might encounter are not always the same for each freighter, added a whole new monster with its own mechanics and it doesnt have one fixed origin thanks to the freighter's crew stories also being proc gen, this is the perfect way to add randomized dungeons to the game and it being interesting to explore each time
white shale
just boring imo
patent shale
definitely
i imagine thisll be carried over to other parts of the game
sean retweeted someone suggesting that
tepid iris
proc gen space stations 🙏
astral karma
and you're allowed, and encouraged, to voice that opinion of boredom here.
So long as it's civil discussion (and yes, that goes for the people that disagree with said boredom too)
mighty rampart
meanwhile with Living ships, the idea of using coordinates for its puzzles was pretty cool but that's it, rest of the living ships stuff is just a generic reskin (albeit a really cool reskin)
patent shale
i would love for abandoned to be proc gen
not sure about the normal ones
just because when they are all the same it allows speed and lets the player know where everything is
white shale
proc gen space stations 🙏
please 🙏
patent shale
not confusing
astral karma
I think randomized active space stations might offer a cool element, so long as it isn't overdone
patent shale
im not sure
just because if i want to find like the cartographer i would have to look everyhwere for him
at the moment i know he is on the near right side
so its easy
astral karma
that's why I said "so long as it isn't overdone"
patent shale
abandoned on the over hand
go to town with that
they dont offer too much to the table
white shale
and you're allowed, and encouraged, to voice that opinion of boredom here.
@astral karma ah yes, very good to see admin doing good job very good
pls no ban
astral karma
lol I've already mentioned derelict freighters might set precedent for abandoned space station dungeons/events
and nah you're good fam
mighty rampart
If I could do the Living Ships update, I would
- make the weapons be entirely different
- getting upgrades will involve doing unique missions for the sentient mother ship
- giving the story more connection with the abandoned outposts with the alien horrors
- make the process of finding varied living ships be more interesting than the current way (just buy another egg lol)
astral karma
I wouldn't be an admin if I couldn't take some jokes from the common folk other users 😛
mighty rampart
and the mech update is honestly the worst one
astral karma
mech update felt like horse armor tbh
mighty rampart
actual mech is fucking cool no doubt
mighty rampart
but they shafted the other exocrafts for no reason aside from dumb difficulty spike
white shale
If I could do the Living Ships update, I would
delete Living Ship update
patent shale
no
astral karma
then again when I saw mech update I was hoping less "minotaur" and more "ARMORED CORE 4 HG PLS"
patent shale
i like living ship
mighty rampart
and they missed the perfect opportunity for the mech to be used for space walking
white shale
its just gross
patent shale
nah not at all
white shale
and the cockpit joystick looks like a knob
mighty rampart
when I heard of mechs my first thought was "oh I could use that to explore derelict freighter's exterior, that would be great"
rain goblet
I just want really extreme planets
white shale
same
mighty rampart
literally just a new toy to mess around with on planets until you go "eh I rather melee boost everywhere"
mighty rampart
would drop the game tbh ngl
gusty stream
Yeah remember the last time they did that?
rain goblet
Melted surfaces on planets that are spin locked, but when you go to the night side it's freezing
gusty stream
KEKW
astral karma
oh yea I forgot they tried to do that already xD
mighty rampart
its crap
patent shale
honestly, i dont know really what they could add next to the game other than variety. The only thing i would really like is variety and harder combat. I would like proper bounties too
mighty rampart
I feel like they shouldnt add any more features borrowed from other genres or it will really mess the game
white shale
@rain goblet imagine your spaceship shot out of the sky from a lightning strike on a extreme planet
astral karma
next update: bruh thargoids
mighty rampart
unless its very self contained like Desolation
patent shale
i dont know if youre putting bounties in that, but i think bounties would work in nks
nms
we already have them
rain goblet
@white shale or thrown around with massive winds
patent shale
i would just like it so we like go to a place in a space station and get a bounty. If we do well enough we get harder bounties, maybe get a notification in our ship that says there is an unknown bounty in the area
then we can get like exclusive rewards for doing the bounty missions
other than that
variety and weather and planet types please
mighty rampart
sounds too lame to spend QS on
hybrid pendant
the lighting in this room is insane
mighty rampart
literally just words only other players can see
white shale
i feel like HG makes their games playable by babies because they're too scared to spit into the face of their playerbase
i want the game to be darksouls
tepid iris
and yourself in your inventory 😛
mighty rampart
but
NMS has been very consistent about it being easy
that's more or less the point
its supposed to be a casual and relaxing game
even on survival
mighty rampart
ye
white shale
people play dark souls casually too, you know
hybrid pendant
MOM IM SCARED
astral karma
which can translate to players that want more difficulty as "so you want a screenshot simulator"
mighty rampart
you can set challenges for yourself
sturdy acorn
i prefer smaller corridors to big dark rooms
mighty rampart
dont upgrade your character to the max
patent shale
theyre going along the right lines with desolation
sturdy acorn
at least you know where to expect things to come from
hybrid pendant
should i do it without the hud for more imersion?
sturdy acorn
yes
white shale
its supposed to be a casual and relaxing game
@mighty rampart its a boring grindfest, and unless you find a boring grindfest relaxing, they I aint biting
gusty stream
@hybrid pendant It reminds me of Republic Commando kinda
hybrid pendant
well it lead me there
gusty stream
Even more when we explored some of these together
patent shale
yeah i dont really notice the grind at all
nocturne zephyr
If they made this game with dark souls difficulty I'd leave. I think the devs of dark souls are stupid not to allow more accessibility options with the difficulty
patent shale
theres a little bit but not much
astral karma
I mean, when people say grindfest, I think Minecraft or WoW, but that's just me 😛
uncut harness
Different folks have different opinions on what is fun, I can sit hours on a station buying and scrapping ships while listening to favourite music. Some folks want combat. Others - exploration. NMS like any other sandbox is about finding your own niche and having fun with it.
mighty rampart
Minecraft is constantly grindy in comparison
hybrid pendant
soo far the max of room i saw in a freighter was 13
uncut harness
I wouldn't call any game with creative mode grindy
mighty rampart
I did a new game for a bit, after around 2 hours I stopped mining resources altogether
astral karma
League of Legends just trying to climb out of silver hell, godbrain grind
white shale
@astral karma funnily enough, I have similar criticisms for MC too, but mods usually fix it
uncut harness
Since it literally gives you the option to skip the grind
mighty rampart
nah I think MC creative is too lackluster
astral karma
eh, not a fan of creative mode, but some people dig it
mighty rampart
Terraria nailed it
uncut harness
@astral karma I feel ya, Overwatch here, bronze support, you don't climb, you sink lower and lower
astral karma
FUCK I need to pass the hell out, I have work in like 9 hours
mighty rampart
sleep tight sir
hybrid pendant
it really is more immersive like that
astral karma
will do o7
hybrid pendant
wanna come @mighty rampart
white shale
@astral karma aus?
uncut harness
Nighty night
white shale
its like almost midnight here lmao
mighty rampart
@hybrid pendant DM me your code
white shale
also, imagine working on the weekend
astral karma
@white shale nah, TX, I just work night shifts 😛
astral karma
Texas
white shale
ah
astral karma
the Australia of the States
astral karma
yea you're right, that'd be Florida
uncut harness
Poland here, the Florida of EU
astral karma
LMAO
white shale
its got the crocs and everything
the more north you go, the more Florida it gets
Brisbane is aight tho
funny how the capital of Aus is almost like a countrytown in the middle of nowhere that nobody's heard about
just like the rest of Aus
pretty sure all of WA believes that Sydney is the capital
I wouldn't know either if I didnt live here
gleaming bloom
I really really love what hg has done with this update, but my only problem is that there isn't enough danger
Especially considering the way its done to feel like horror
hybrid pendant
maybe tis because u didnt checked other freighters
because i thinkt the story of some freighters are really scary
sohail had one where the crew became the egg
like
wtf?
gleaming bloom
I'm still need to check more for sure I don't claim so have seen all of them at all
hybrid pendant
they are system specific
gleaming bloom
Have you come across any that has actually made you feel in danger tho?
Has any of them actually been at least half a challenge to complete
hybrid pendant
i mean this looked scary for me
hybrid pendant
it could be if u have 30 little things going to u to kill u
mighty rampart
I really really love what hg has done with this update, but my only problem is that there isn't enough danger
I think my only complaint is that those little buggers barely hurt you compared to the security systems
but its still fun to try and avoid triggering them to begin with
gleaming bloom
I find it hard to be scared when I know there is nothing dangerous
mighty rampart
it was bound to be easy anyway, not like this game wants to be difficult
especially if you're playing with top gear
gleaming bloom
I think they have built a very good framework for future potential threats to be added in the freighters
gleaming bloom
Its very good
hybrid pendant
it really feels different witch each freigter
mighty rampart
more like they got a good framework for similar randomized dungeons for other places like those ruins
I always found ruins to be underwhelming
gleaming bloom
That would be pretty nice
hybrid pendant
THERE SOO MUCH THEY ARE EVERYWHERE
gleaming bloom
Do the nests actually burst on their own? I've only ever shot them
hybrid pendant
If u move too quick they will burst
mighty rampart
yes they do
your HUD starts warning you to stop moving around when they're agitated
if you dont stop they burst
gleaming bloom
Ohhhh fair enough
hybrid pendant
its stress me when i see it grow red a shit ton im like fuck its gonna burst dont moe
mighty rampart
I like how you get a red vignette when that's happening
gleaming bloom
The whole feel of the game changes when I enter those freighters I love it
hybrid pendant
woah this dude comitted fraud and got in jail for 62 days
it doesent feel like no man's sky
when u enter these freighters
i spend mostly 45 minutes to an hour in them
hybrid pendant
never had this type of room before
gleaming bloom
Rooms almost mirror each other
hybrid pendant
yeah that funny
here is a theory i have now
since we got crossplay last month and desolation now what if we get another update next month too?
strong bluff
There already were rumours that these updates (aside of crossplay probably) is one bigger update divided into smaller ones, each released per month. 🤔
gleaming bloom
This update is pretty large so I wouldn't expect an update next month
but hg is always full of surprises
These guys must crunch so much cause they manage to get so much content in their updates
hybrid pendant
i feel like they wont miss on doing something for the aniversary
gleaming bloom
I really hope so
prisma oak
Bloody barking hells, why in ATLAS's name is Manage Fleet UI so horrendously laggy?!
Also, I can't find a way to remove frigates.
compact coyote
And they still have the beyond trailer pinned 👀
hybrid pendant
looks really good
compact coyote
We are definitely missing something
mighty rampart
Also, I can't find a way to remove frigates.
long press on a frigate in the list
tepid iris
I can't read French Jordan 😛
hybrid pendant
lmao
tepid iris
I really hope they fix the foreign multiplayer messages
open canyon
whats wrong with them
tepid iris
for example "player is starting a mission in the nexus"
they're printed in the language of the user who triggered it, not in your lang 😛
open canyon
and the menu option to translate it doesnt work?
i thought that was kinda cool, its not like you have no idea what it says
open canyon
i see
tepid iris
I've also never seen speech to text work in NMS 🤔
rancid lance
sometimes when its asian player it's all boxes on the chat. i dont speak boxes
tepid iris
ah that's also why we see players with boxes as names?
so No Man's Sky doesn't use UTF8 encoding? 😛
gusty stream
@hybrid pendant I got some free coordinates from Helios, wanna join me when you're done with that ship?
heavy isle
its dope
gusty stream
Wait what
tepid iris
how do you get one?
gusty stream
FLAMETHROWER?
heavy isle
gusty stream
W H A T
heavy isle
yeah
gusty stream
tepid iris
cool so it's a future thing "datamined"?
heavy isle
you need to add ^FLAME to the KnownTech list - not my find btw - but the cat has been let out of the bag lol
tepid iris
heavy isle
and yes
tepid iris
nice
gusty stream
Haha flamethrower go BRRRRRRR
tepid iris
I wonder if it's gonna be through Quicksilver or an upcoming update
uncut harness
It was found on a MT in a space station cabinet, right?
Meaning maybe we could find it anywhere
hybrid pendant
i think u find it on space station
heavy isle
I lied i guess folks are finding it in MTs in the wild?
uncut harness
IIRC some guy here used a post from NMSCE to find normal S-class MT
And that MT had this tech installed
gusty stream
👀
uncut harness
Some even have whole ships inside them, that you can loot for upgrades
My 1st derelict freighter had S-class upgrades in cargo boxes and a fighter ship in bay that gave me C-class stuff
hybrid pendant
heard that caves looks insane now
hybrid pendant
hybrid pendant
UGHHHHH
soo good
i love this type of rooms
aout the flamethrower https://twitter.com/ScreenshotsNms/status/1284136735681720322
uncut harness
Are MT instanced in multiplayer?
Meaning: if player A finds a MT with some specs and player B joins him / her, will B see the same MT with the same specs?
hybrid pendant
hmm i dont know
mighty rampart
haha tiny beam of ouchies
this is too cute
and yeah can confirm the new sentinel spawning is bugged, its still the old one
tepid iris
what if we could build our own dungeons to be explored by others?
mighty rampart
already can
only problem is no way to reward
need a shared cabinet base part that can hold items which can be accessed by anyone
tepid iris
yeah but not like the freighters
cloud epoch
needs buildable golf courses like terraria
mighty rampart
compact coyote
We are trying our best to decode it
mighty rampart
I will laugh so much if it turns out to be just a random word with no meaning
sturdy acorn
bleeplobop
undone geyser
cant wait for a huge building update again tbh
theres a decent amount of stuff
but can we get real glass corners plz
vocal shoal
when you see more lore
nocturne zephyr
Still a mystery to unsolve with the abyss
And I don't think it has to do with freighters
Hold on you were able to scan that jellyfish on a derelict freighter, Star?
I think I tried but couldn't
mighty rampart
same, nothing popped up
vocal shoal
let me know if im spamming or not, but i'd like to share something
mighty rampart
speaking of, this creature's design is pretty interesting
vocal shoal
the following below are unused pictures of the desolation patch notes
they're purposely dimmed like this for some reason
mighty rampart
most of them are stuff we already know, I guess its to showcase the bloom
vocal shoal
probably
mighty rampart
dimming might be from when they were making those before/after gifs
or probably meant to be used as background images for the post
vocal shoal
that too
Nothing too important, but i also found an interesting directory for their nms logo.
\nms\www.nomanssky.com\app\themes\nomanssky\dist\images\icons\favicon\safari-pinned-tab.svg
tepid iris
that's just standard web dev standards
mighty rampart
ye
tepid iris
favicons are the name for the little icons in a tab
vocal shoal
good to know
mighty rampart
meanwhile they STILL HAVENT UPDATED their press kit
mighty rampart
its still atlas rises shit
idle jay
Im still going with the horrors on derelict freighters relating to the abyss
mighty rampart
I wanna know more about what you just said
vocal shoal
What puzzles me is that there are two folders named elk and true. they have html files, but lead to nothing saying that the page isnt found
tepid iris
https://roots.io/bedrock/ that's a custom WordPress set-up which is fully OOP, based on Laravel (most popular PHP framework, which is insipred by .NET)
Bedrock has this folder structure
see: web / app / themes
app / themes returns 😛
In a regular wordpress it's wp-content/themes
mighty rampart
was expecting you to DM but nice
vocal shoal
ah yes, game informer covers... and something else
you guys can take a look in this folder if you like, but it aint much. only 2014-2015 folders with not a lot accessible.
old canopy
Anyone know which language file is used for all the weekend missions?
uncut harness
I have a github link claiming its "NMS_LOC5_ENGLISH"
old canopy
Thanks!
mental socket
wait, new stuff?
mighty rampart
not really no
violet narwhal
Nothing new in the text in this experimental.
subtle gorge
was probably just gramatical fixes
glass flare
*grammatical
cloud epoch
the irony
nocturne zephyr
Interesting the weird biome asset texturers were messed up
I noticed on a pillar planet
subtle gorge
oh yeah, aren't the pillars fucked up?
cloud epoch
nocturne zephyr
Should be fixed now
prisma oak
Ah, good, finally a decent comparison of Station vs Tier 3 Dreadnought vs Planet. Dreadnought puts up a good fight as being absolutely freaking massive.
tepid iris
they updated crashed freighters?
this one has an interior where a crate was which I could mine open
heavy glacier
thats been there
heavy glacier
thats annoying
but yes that's been a thing
i almost want to go through the weekend event mission table just so i can prepare whatever materials are needed ahead of time
crisp fern
lol
the softest critique of those missions in a way
the couple i've gone though i've done via creative and it really doesn't feel like gathering would add much to the experience anyway, at least imo
uncut harness
@heavy glacier It's 40 Pulpy Roots, if you check the general channel you'll find coords to places where those grow in packs of 2
heavy glacier
yeah ik, i did it already
i just mean the files list what mats are needed for every single one in the future
so i could just prep ahead of time
mighty rampart
imagine getting an interesting weekend mission objective
heavy glacier
i think its just a tool to deliver story while they work on updates
heavy glacier
the last event is like September 24th or something so maybe that'll be near when one of the other updates happens
mighty rampart
yeah we get it WorkGek Karen, say something new
heavy glacier
I think it's interesting but I also spoiled a little of it for myself
uncut harness
Ok, conspiracy theory time
mighty rampart
the last event is like September 24th or something so maybe that'll be near when one of the other updates happens
source?
heavy glacier
the mission schedule table
mighty rampart
that's a thing?
heavy glacier
yeah
uncut harness
Based on this event's lore bit, I think we will get || a new unique NPC alongside Nada and Polo ||
mighty rampart
link sauce
heavy glacier
i dont have alink but I can post the text
uncut harness
Null?
heavy glacier
mighty rampart
but where is that from? some in game datamine or a post I missed?
uncut harness
I'm doing the event rn
The lore mentions || a Vykeen Mecha-Priest, who still follows the way of Hirk ||
Brb
heavy glacier
in a file called MISSIONSCHEDULESTABLE
mighty rampart
interesting
uncut harness
heavy glacier
It even matched up with the gap before the story stuff started
heavy glacier
oh yeah i saw that
uncut harness
One for each species
heavy glacier
what's interesting is i had a derelict freighter interaction which seemed to be the same story
heavy glacier
the captains log mentioned him looking for the truth and something about his child
wonder if it links to that
uncut harness
Maybe || that new NPC would be tied to that dark freighter from 2 weeks ago ||
because Vy'keen are trash 
mighty rampart
bad take
gloomy isle
Vy'keen are dummy thicc
mental socket
OwO
gloomy isle
molten karma
Is there a ARG going on?
quiet horizon
Not an ARG (or at least, we're not sure if it is) but all talk about it has been redirected to #glyph-investigation
gloomy isle
I'd say probably not but its always possible
brave kestrel
So if I choose Reset the simulation will I be able to finish the Atlas Storyline or is that forfeited and reset?
static urchin
turbid wing
you can find new multitools with them already installed, didn't found another way yet.
prime inlet
the tech is in game, it just can't be learned yet iirc
through normal means at least.
gloomy isle
Seems like they meant to add it in but something went wrong
formal knot
What is this weeks weekend mission?
uncut harness
40 Pulpy Roots.
formal knot
oke cheers
austere sequoia
open canyon
:D
prisma oak
Meet the Grave of the Ocean King
I have no idea how to break those three glowing things - the default ship blasters did 0 to them.
open canyon
i dont think you can destroy them
prisma oak
It gave me this when I flew into its maw:
It's got those three glowing rocks in its maw and one in each eye socket
fervent eagle
What's the weekend mission item?
sturdy acorn
40 pulpy roots
fervent eagle
sweet
uneven current
is it just me or does the flamethrower kinda suck
sturdy acorn
hans get ze flammenwerfer
fervent eagle
they added a flamethrower 😮
uneven current
yeah
next arrow
vocal shoal
Good to know
upper void
So apparently they hid new multi tool weapons in the game?
There’s a flamethrower now
That some people are finding
Just finding it in stations and minor settlements it seems
No idea
There’s a channel for that now tho
So check there
sacred knot
there is a flamethrower?
uneven current
yeah
mental socket
@heavy glacier ooh
fervent eagle
Question
if I'm playing with someone that hasn't gotten all the glyphs, can they go through the portal when I put in an address
vocal shoal
I think so, thought i've never tried
wispy glen
question about living ships: if I want another one, how much of the starbirth quest do I need to redo? The whole thing, or is it shorter after the first time?
glass flare
i did that a couple days ago on my own freighter, except with my ship. the NMS collision engine still doesn't like high velocity targets too much, my ship ended up trapped inside the hull
crisp fern
Was able to reproduce it...Weird.
@wispy glen I think you just grab another void egg & can go from there without having to repeat the whole hatching stuff
wispy glen
funny thing, I still have a hatching void egg after quest completion...
crisp fern
@glass flare in this case don't smash the protective casing near the entry to the interior of the derelict freighters. It will consistently destroy the whole traversable area of the derelict and space you
glass flare
hmm, good to know!
crisp fern
have a video uploading atm to send to HG so they can see, lol
Also the shadows are super buggy, at least for me, around the right side of the entryway there
Be advised, destroying in any manner (melee/weapons fire) creates this issue...At least on this derelict in the system I'm in. Not sure how many variants may also possess this issue.
nocturne zephyr
😲
crisp fern
I think I've successfully scuttled 3 derelicts testing this, lmao
nocturne zephyr
U strong
crisp fern
so stronk
boooo jetpack disabled aboard derelict
ooo torch follows first-person camera movement yayyy
can't believe they disabled that at some point
thisisfine.jpg
uneven current
it spew flames
vestal ledge
i c
uneven current
kind of a worse scatter blaster tbh
uneven current
we don't know
tranquil raft
does anyone know what FutureGek means? It seems to upset the gek i use it on
vague badge
Sounds like a Gek stuck in the old ways
crisp fern
okay i've only just scratched the surface so far but i'm really digging this update already
you can get upgrades from scavenging these freighters 👀
like starship upgrades i mean, nice
vestal ledge
how many nanities does the engineering thing at the end give?
uneven current
but the other things give like 600-1000 nanites if you sell em
uneven current
and the living slime gives 450-600 nanites
vestal ledge
oh yeah
the freighters with 9 rooms
tend to be easy and small in rewards
but the 11 room ones
have slime n shit
first time run in with the little things right now too
the biological horrors
wish me luck
uneven current
use a scatter blaster
you can try plasma nades but I guarantee you will nuke yourself at least once
crisp fern
@uneven current yeah it does tho...
vague badge
I have about 3 stacks of breathing mold, I'll refine them whenever I get low on nanites, the freighters are a nanite bank
crisp fern
upgrade tech anyway which is more interesting to me than placebo stats
vestal ledge
nah scatt is my goto weapon
except its like 30 mill per freighter reciever thing
from the scrap guys
for me at least
was 5 mill at the start of the day
uneven current
it resets daily
vestal ledge
i c
when pulsing
i've still found abandoned freighters
but not the current ones, the old ones we got on the release of the space encounters
wispy glen
make sense, couldn't have every derelict encounter be an explorable one.
I've been able to warp out of my freighter after putting a portal in, but can anyone warp to their freighter? I don't see it in my location lists when checking other portals.
uneven current
me neither
vestal ledge
bro these little things are so annoying
wispy glen
I'm sure they'll get ironed out in the coming days, but they are inconvenient, to be sure
uneven current
or just nade them twice when they spawn
vestal ledge
at this point its easier to just snipe em with my boltcaster
uneven current
and pray you don't nuke yourself
vestal ledge
even tho i got max shields and stuff, they just creep m,e out
wispy glen
I was wondering if something was up with my controls, when I first discovered the bolt caster fires in bursts, now
vestal ledge
i have max standing with each race, and 70k nanites, so like, idk what to do with these captains logs
open canyon
grind em up with some nip and blaze your way to eissentam
@crisp fern I tested the freighter blowing up too, it blew up the first one I tried. Another cool thing that happened is that I did it at the end of the dungeon after I cleared it. Autosaved in my ship, then blew it up, and it didnt just not save my location like it says 'location not saved on freighters' or whatever. But it booted me way way back to the nexus like an hour ago
open canyon
the video you posted blowing up the freighter dungeon breaking those 3 things
crisp fern
oh it was just the one thing that did it
but i was surprised that it booted you back that far
uneven current
you can get salvaged frigate modules from the derelict freighters
crisp fern
not sure how i feel about the movement speed reduction in derelicts...
uneven current
I feel like it should be a modifier rather than the norm
crisp fern
Yeah
uneven current
like some freighters have it others don't
same with the cold
maybe add some others
crisp fern
And some give you a means to disable/reduce it if you explore thoroughly enough
uneven current
yeah
crisp fern
Also weird thing: descending into a derelict seems to change the sky outside
sturdy acorn
the derelict sky is no man's sky
rare imp
@crisp fern Did you take a look at the patch notes for the experimental branch?
crisp fern
Outside derelict entry way...
Right inside derelict entry way...
The nebula moves to the left, and if you sit in the entry way you can watch as it flickers back & forth for whatever reason
@rare imp yeah
I'm on the experimental branch atm
rare imp
Are you referring to the sun suddenly changing positions after landing?
crisp fern
Nah, as you enter the derelict, if you look back you'll see the sky shift
rare imp
Yeah exterior lighting is supposed to be fixed when you enter
crisp fern
time is weird yo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sZm9dpjVTY
idle jay
Its because it moves the sun directly above you I noticed
And then the planets disappear for some reason
solar glacier
accidentally refused the atlas
the first time i met them
is there a way to go back
uneven current
nope enjoy being abandoned by space god
solar glacier
fuck
crisp fern
Its because it moves the sun directly above you I noticed
@idle jay yeah but this isn't just from landing, it's right in the entryway
crisp fern
...see the link i posted above? different thing happening i think
idle jay
Did you watch my video?
crisp fern
when right outside your ship the sky continues moving, when in the entry way, it stops
idle jay
For me it happens the moment I exit my ship
crisp fern
yeah, didn't observe same phenomena tho
idle jay
🤷♂️ Don't know then
rare imp
One of you is playing a patch build of the update and the other isn’t.
idle jay
Then I don't think it's possible to play a patch build on the Xbox
tepid iris
if you buy a multi-tool with a flamethrower, do you unlock the blueprint?
rare imp
Yeah Leon’s playing on the experimental branch
idle jay
That might explain it a bit then
That video doesn't show that I realize but the sun was shifting as I got out of my ship
cursive kernel
@tepid iris no
tepid iris
I really believe splitting the summer update in smaller chunks is a good idea
last year, the amount of bugs in BEYOND utterly destroyed the reviews of NMS
and I haven't really seen any game breaking bugs so far in Desolation
idle jay
Yeah
cursive kernel
Beyond:
emoting in chairs got you stuck in chairs
astral karma
I mean, breaking it into smaller chunks probably improves dev efficiency in the office too
tepid iris
multi-sword? 👀
idle jay
They were starting to get mad at me or something
Ikr. A multi-sword mentioned. Pretty interesting
idle jay
Not sure
tepid iris
yeah I came across one, and it had an interesting dialogue as well
idle jay
It's been a while since I talked to them so it could be old. But I feel like this relates to something newer
tepid iris
but I was not sure if it was new since it was hte first time I talked to them
since owning all the glyphs
cursive kernel
Who tf is the great king
tepid iris
so mine is probly a dialogue you unlock after getting all the glyphs
astral karma
inb4 No Man's Sky: Equillibrium
cursive kernel
PERFECTLY BALANCED
astral karma
get out
grizzled apex
The great king line seems new
idle jay
Battling it out
strong bluff
You´ll find more about it in Atlas rememberance areas...
idle jay
I feel like the Great King is referencing the Abyss
grizzled apex
It feels so far away
astral karma
nah I would think, in the context of NMS and extended WT (sort of) lore, the Abyss could be a foreign invader, messing with hardware/software
and Equillibrium, in my shitpost, could be merging of said entities
cursive kernel
@idle jay yeah I kinda feel that too
idle jay
Maybe
astral karma
oh man I feel a theory post a-brewin'
grizzled apex
Could The Abyss be ||The doing of W/Are?||
strong bluff
According to rememberance lore - protagonist and all travellers is simulated creator, in order Atlas to not be alone when it was left by its real creator.
idle jay
Wasn't there that quest lore from the Abyss update that mentioned a king though?
gloomy isle
The game is still on sale. I'm betting on a larger update this summer. Not beyond scale, but a larger more impactful feature
strong bluff
So maybe the Abyss is just sharing Atlas with the travellersr its fear of dying alone?
cursive kernel
The abyss did nothing wrong?
astral karma
I wouldn't bet on sale cycles meaning anything
idle jay
^
astral karma
they could have this sale for a week, end the promotion, and then reduce it again in a month if something else pushes live
tepid iris
Some ppl think that there won't be a universe reset, but that a new "dimension" would arrive - the abyss - which would have massive new proc gen
strong bluff
Though in the 16/16 rememberance, it´s said that some figure comes to Atlas at last minute before it dies. Who is that figure? 🤔
tepid iris
what do you guys think of that?
grizzled apex
We honestly know nothing about the Abyss even from the datamined weekend mission lore