#nms-spoilers
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It has been over a year of development
I think more than likely a reveal tomorrow or Friday with a release in August @low egret
yeah same
@patent shale what leak?
Imagine how much they put into this update with an entire year and no VR tech to work on
@sullen hornet https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/gx9x95/potential_details_for_summer_update/
43 votes and 22 comments so far on Reddit
Just all content
@uncut harness yeah but his uploads have Beeb lacking. Guess he’s busy
Just checked cobra tv.. He's a citizen now
I really hope that they can do something ambitious with procgen. Not just a bunch of new biomes that will get stale. But a closer realization of the original pitch
@sullen hornet got cross play correct before it was announced, got in game missions before it was announced, and also looks like they have the combat bit right
I hope at least just improve terrain gen and structures
@chrome ice i think they have access to the secret formula now
planets get stale fast now
Wasn’t the whole super formula thing just a kinda dreamt up issue and never actually used in no mans sky @uncut harness
the superformula™
@chrome ice i mean no one knows for sure, i doubt hg would admit to using it if they were
but yeah they said they werent
@chrome ice some speculate it was used in the trailers but due to copyright it was removed from the final game
We have to make something like Bungie day but for Hello Games
And base it on the 16th of a month
The super formula was demonstrated prerelease and they had massive plans for it, but because of a patent they couldn’t use it
But that stuff was only for use in the terrain. I’m talking more about plant/animal life
@bleak gorge exactly.. That patent is expired now tho so they're free to use it
it wasn't dreamt up, Sean talked about it in the past, but then with the legal kerfluffle it was never talked about again
creating unique and interesting flora and fauna consistently along with terrain is essential in my opinion
@chrome ice it was used for everything
The game files even suggest the game once had a complex muscle and skeletal system
the superformula that was pattented was used for geometry I believe
So anything new about the whole new update
it's a nice formula but I don't know that it will be some revolutionary generation system, they would have to rebuild their proc gen from the ground up to make sizeable changes to the way flora and fauna are constructed
@rotund perch imagine what the super formula could do for next gen hardware
how much do we even know abt the superformula?
@uncut harness at that point they can just package it up as NMS 2 lol
Tbh I don't think anyone of us actually know the solid details about the NMS proc gen, none of us work for hello games afaik
@tawdry tusk that it's a real patent
So anything new about the whole new update
@scarlet carbon got leaked on the Xbox store and we are all waiting for tomorrow for either a trailer or a teaser
The superformula is a generalization of the superellipse and was proposed by Johan Gielis around 2000. Gielis suggested that the formula can be used to describe many complex shapes and curves that are found in nature. Gielis has filed a patent application related to the synthe...
dope
I'd say it's pretty likely they were using this for some complicated voxel terrain back in prerelease
@rotund perch that's what I'm thinking too but were forced to remove it
@uncut harness yeah and they had to just use some basic heightmaps, spheres, and land snakes for terrain
a new update name
The name, I believe.
desolation
No art just the name

Biggest takeaway from this is that small updates don't get titled like this on the store, this will be significant

SSSEEEEAAAANNNNN
@scarlet carbon Or just sorta bad stuff or death
Duuuuuuude I can’t wait
I've gotta check out the old prerelease footage and see what kind of shapes are in the terrain gen
mayhaps
@rotund perch the video I always go to is the "Infinite Worlds" trailer. By far the best trailer imo
I just realized the update will probs happen this month
@rotund perch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APP5WcX8v8
No Man's Sky is a science-fiction game about exploration and survival in an infinite procedurally generated universe. This is just a tiny sample of worlds you could visit.
Music: Pacify by 65daysofstatic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyZ0_M6v7J...
I'm looking for footage before the superformula fiasco
Because we still have like a good chunk of this month left and a teaser was released today
Tbh if this update is called "desolation" then it seem they are going back to the roots of nms
That is without a doubt the quintessential No Mans Sky feel
For anyone needing the definition:
des·o·la·tion
/ˌdesəˈlāSH(ə)n/
noun
a state of complete emptiness or destruction.
anguished misery or loneliness.
we goin back to ooga booga times
right off the bat in that trailer you see more complicated geometry in the terrain
If a trailer comes out tomorrow, imma do a NMS fanart
@rotund perch most definitely. Animal behavior seem better too
I think its always amazing. What happened to all this stuff that was in these trailers. Personally I dont feel like a small indie studio would just flat out lie and make fake stuff. Like it was all real and in game. I really want to know what happened
I made fanart for the skull emoji tweet
@uncut harness like you can even see stalagtites hanging on the bottom of floating islands
NMS Ooga Booga Update!
the 6th race: monke
@chrome ice They used buff computers thinking that they could put it on console. Things did not go well
@rotund perch and those stegosaurus like creatures... They're moving in herds.they do move in herds
@sullen hornet ooo oo AAH AHH
Apparently the diplos in the E3 trailer are still in the files. Feelsbadman
we have herds in the game rn kind of
Mmmmmm monky
they do move in herds
donky kong confirmed
No
No Man's Sky: Yoshi's Tax Evasion
@sturdy acorn you can do that
you can?
You can already ride lol
lol
i did not know this
@sturdy acorn yes .. Feed them the right food
@rotund perch I was just watching that!
guess i was too focused on activated indium farming
@harsh pelican I dont think thats exactly it. They were an indie studio who had already published on consoles before. They knew their limitations, then signed a deal for a ps4 exclusive. I dont think they would have just cut it all because of the consoles
@sturdy acorn that's why the game needs more variety. People begin to ignore things and just build bases and farm
@rotund perch it just feels like everything in that trailer is a real place that I actually WANT to explore. Now when I land on a planet its not to explore but to get some resources and maybe build a quick base you know.
@sturdy acorn i think it will.. Believe the 4chan post is real
I reckon desolation will be the 4chan leak
4chan post?
NEXT, Beyond, Desolation - so awesome
@chrome ice probably the superformula
@chrome ice Do you remember Alien Isolation? It was common practice for devs to predict what they could do and run those on high-end PCs. What was in those trailers were a prediction
@sturdy acorn
I always thought the rumour was that the trailer was a staged solar system so all the planets were hand made/or the best of the procgen put together specifically for the shots in the trailer.
@sturdy acorn there was a leak on 4chan where a guy who claimed to have insider info said there would be a massive update around this time with combat and variety
I think its interesting that in say a game like Minecraft there is a pretty great drive to explore. Even though you know all the biomes, you know essentially what youll run into, but exploring the world youre in is still very fun.
@sturdy acorn anybody got the 4chan leak ?
@uncut harness See my post above.
damn
The superformula is a mathematical formula created by Johan Gielis which can be used to draw lots of cool shapes. In this tutorial, we plot the superformula using the Processing programming language.
This video covers:
- The difference between Cartesian and polar coordinates,...
@harsh pelican "the arrogance of devs is believing that consoles are in their control, and not the other way around"
I really hope that 4Chan leak is wrong about procgen. No one just wants "new biomes" because that will get stale. I think its all about making planets with no set "biomes" at all, and basing their characteristic based on real stuff, like distance from the sun, atmosphere composition etc.
I’d like to see procedural biomes
I found a vid of someone demoing the superformula
A bunch of new biomes honestly doesnt make the game suddenly fun to explore. Because just like you have currently, you see the same thing youve seen before
real orbital mechanics would be neat ngl
Yeah I really hope its more super formula based and completely procedural.
all that "practice" in KSP would help
The 4chan leak says that there will not just be new biomes, but new Proc gen and assets
The 4chan leaker also said however they are doing ambitious things so we’ll see
this is definitely the superformula hg was using
yup
@rotund perch multiple times they said they werent using the superformula.
probably
I just reread the 4chan post and got tears of joy
@chrome ice using the superformula at the time of them stating that or just have not used it at all for any trailer?
If orbital mechanics are true with proc gen and combat this will truely be the best update since NEXT.
plz dont be an update like the animal milking shit lol
the best thing since sliced bread
Why was I expecting the update to be called something cute like “generations” or “rebooted”
@molten karma this will be the best update of all. I can't play this game for very long cause of the lack of variety.i want exploration not base building
idk crow
Beyond was the most disappointing update it almost reminded me of launch lol.
I was not expecting desolation
if we get orbila mechanics imma start a cult where we all fly into the sun
Me neither
@ionic scarab desolation sounds so dark
It’s all happening now
how much pyrite would you need to fly into a star upon warping into the system
Beyond was the most disappointing update it almost reminded me of launch lol.
@molten karma This is what makes me thinkg it will be lauching very soon. They have probably learnt that announcing it is not the best way to go.
@uncut harness where is that from?
I mean if you think about desolation was the original pitch for No Man's Sky so this could be a update going back to its routes with combat.
Announcing it early that is
I'm betting for an August release
early august?
I mean NEXT launched in July so its possible it could release tomorrow.
August 5-9th
damn
@rotund perch there was some clue hunting a bit before the name announcement, that was the result
Oh god if it launches tomorrow 😩
@tawdry tusk what file is that though?
16 days before NMS is cancelled
bring back bob
I’m possibly thinking August 14 but if it’s ready to come out sooner then bring it on HG
Are we dishing on the name leak?
Ye
As a VR player, I'm ready for a god awful frame-rate
@rotund perch i think it was a tracing of the static file? i'm kinda a zoomer boomer so i'm not too tech savvy
we are discussing desolation, yes
I haven't been this excited since NEXT/Atlas Rises.
i don't feel excited for anything but i'd love to know what changes
@tawdry tusk bruh do you mean it was just a download of the video sean posted?
I'm pretty hype. I'm a pretty new player (approx 90 hours) but I'm hearing whispers of possibly bases getting wiped?
How did they crack the video? I tried putting the audio through a spectogram but I all achieved was static
desolation update- all planets and bases have been destroyed due to a simulation reset
I think Hello Games might have a way to keep bases tbh.
They will probably have a backup solution for bases or they figured out a way to save them from obliteration
If it’s a variation overhaul that needs a reset then it would just mess with planets. Your bases and everything else would remain
Man I gotta say I came to this game at the right time.
like "oops your bases are all in their own pocket dimension" ?
You all with 90/300 hours and I have only 10 hours of playtime
@molten karma releasing the update as a dlc probably
A wipe now makes PERFECT sense, we just got crossplay. Would be the best time to wipe and have us all in the same universe
I am a long time Elite: Dangerous player and picked this up on steam summer sale
Or should I say... save the bases from desolation
@hollow glacier Welcome to the club! You press a button to land your ship here
Haha
Unless they flag existing planets with bases so they don't reset it will just be code that checks for a base computer and if true the planet doesn't get reseeded and its considered "legacy"
uhh
Can you imagine if exo mech and living ships were in this update 😂
E spam intensifies
That's wishful thinking though
I still love Elite, but it's been stagnating and I wanted MOAR SPES
maybe they can save current base configs as a template, so you can try placing it on a new planet without the rebuild. best of both worlds
do they really need to preserve bases?
nah but they might
@gilded torrent yeah that’s what I would assume.
I just can't wait to see how gaming media is gonna respond to another massive update to nms
people can rebuild perfectly fine
if it is combat update i wish they add wingman
Lol
imagine playing NMS but with the actual universe for a map
like this is the fourth one
I'll be a little miffed if they nuke bases, because I JUST got my Statis Device farms up and going, sold my first lot of 50 devices today
@sturdy acorn so space engine?
yes
You know talking about this summer update its boring its time to speculate about next years lmao.
NMS and space engine
Well, 30 devices. I gave the rest away to randos on the anomaly
we need legit hotas support in this game
Speculate about my fake-update.
What
wat
what
What
i have no clue what to do with my first save
Lol @harsh pelican someone thought that was real on Twitter
YOU MADE THAT SHIT
like should i just build a bunch of farms and see what happens?
ah ok
@uncut harness LINK
Nah we too busy speculating about the new update
@scarlet carbon Understandable have a nice day
bruh
LMAO
OH MY DEAR LORD
that dude actually thought it was real
I thought it was legit 😤
💀
💀
I even asked for a link

I'm screaming I thought I made it very clear
So one thing I love about Elite but kinda miss in NMS, is there any form of PVP?
if the 4chan leak is accurate we're getting proper orbital mechanics and planet gen based on planet distance to their stars.
bruh
@ionic scarab I'm so sorry
there is no PVP afaik
Wait fr?????
but who knows?
That looks insane
@ionic scarab
Sounds*
Yeah I heard about the 4chan leak
if the 4chan leak is true, then it opens up a lot of discussion about how HG is now leakable after so many years of not being accesible
Apparently they predicted crossplay
Thats me...
Feelsbadman
Send leak
@ionic scarab Thank you. You believing that is at least confirmation that my artwork is good
@scarlet carbon buildable space stations
scroll up to 15 minutes ago, leak was already posted
Yeah
HOLY CRAP
43 votes and 22 comments so far on Reddit
Dude can you just post the leak
@harsh pelican dude it looked so legit
The leak
Thank you
@rotund perch ?
I ain’t scrolling 15 minutes up
I found exactly where the sound in seans video is from
lmao
!
!!!!!
@rotund perch go on!
lemme copy the link
@rotund perch Is it the sound of glass screaming?
You just got the entire channel to listen to you lol
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No Man's Sky: Music For An Infinite Universe
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Released on: 2016-08-05
Artist: 65daysofstatic
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at around 8:52
yeah somebody posted that on reddit 2 hours ago
nice one @rotund perch
I recognised it too and I had to scour the whole soundtrack for like 20 min
This is some galaxy-brain level memery. Pun intended.
noice
I have a feeling we simply get a reveal tomorrow with a release coming later. Especially now that the name is most likely known
Dude that sounds insane
Do you think Sean has his tweets vetted before he posts? Does he have to go into a board room and say "I want to post 2 seconds of static"
Trailers usually don’t happen until the update is released tho
*"I want to post 65daysofstatic"
when we getting that server banner change
Also in before desolation takes away ALL of the color from the game
Before what
Desolation better not pull a Beyond/NEXT lol
Nooo, all 5 colours in the game :((
Oh
"Welcome to No Man's Sky:Desolation. The universe has been destroyed. The game is a black screen. That is all."
Lol
no more flora, but you have orbital mechanics so it's okay
They pull a Fortnite
inb4 desolation just straight-up destroys itself, greating a time paradox
you know what
They already added the mechs
i want to build a satellite and orbit a lush planet
I'm still convinced that the sound after the sountrack snippet is a coded message of sorts
In before desolation is just sand
play Stable Orbit in NMS
Gonna pull a black screen until the update releases
S A N D
What if Desolation turns NMS into a battle royale
NO
desolation just makes the game CTD
No more BR PLEASE
all planets are now desolate
I want a JOJO reference
The combat update makes sense with a name like desolation
DLC!!!
Technically you can already play 32 player BR mode on PC
Players would have to jump out of a battle freighter
thank the bus driver sentinel
The game now takes place on one planet
I’m always thinking that either Sean or someone from the team is watching the conversation happen and is laughing
I reckon it’s combat and variation just like the 4chan leak
Didn't they confirm that they're in here
no mans sky is now a moba
I think the update is a return to form desolation was the original meaning to the game being lonely in a vast universe. I think its combat for sure and variety focused.
Sean is
@sinful geyser Sean lurks on the discord
Sean if you're watching this I want you to know. I read that fanfaction with you in it.
No Man's Sky: Pocket Edition
@sinful geyser Sean lurks on the discord
@rotund perch I know that
It was hot
We wanted variation and they could give it to us
He does?
Under what name
What name is he
Sean could be any one of us! He could be you, or you, or you...
No Man's Sky: Bedrock Edition
Sean: seriously another leak
Microsoft employee: 😅
Sean if you're watching this I want you to know. I read that fanfaction with you in it.
@hollow glacier you mean the one nsfw that was on the Reddit before the release of the game?
I bet it’s @bleak gorge
I doubt it's Sean. Probably just an intern that has to take notes about repeating conversation topics
lol
Yes that one, @sinful geyser
"They kept repeating requests for a battle royale"
Sean probs does lurk in the discord when he wants to laugh at us
I don't know but I remember sean tweeting a video of the discord chat reacting to the NEXT reveal
Sean is so cheeky I love it
Yes that one, @sinful geyser
@hollow glacier I listened it thanks to Internet Historian
@bleak gorge shoot bullet what?? it was obvious he's sean murray! watch, his flannel will appear any second now. SEE flannel... no wait thats blood
where bob? 
I have no doubt they’re on here but they can be anyone
Tf2 poggers @chrome ice
Hahahahaha
Could be me
It could be you
I wanna trade my quicksilver for LOOT BOXES
Could be us but you playin
NO
Oh also buy quicksilver
NO LOOT BOXES
NO
AAAAAAAAAAAA
I WILL MURDER SEAN IF HE ADDS LOOT BOXES
I WANT NO MAN;S SKY CARD PACKS THAT I CAN BUY IN-GAME WITH REAL MONEY
No
Procedural loot boxes
What
quicksilver for exosuit upgrade loot boxes
"No Mans Sky: Premium Edition"
No Man's Sky 2 with star cards confirmed
the clickbait begins
You have to pay for each galaxy that you explore
No Man's Sky: the Collectible Card Game
duh da duuu
no mans sky 2 electric boogaloo
OPENING 100 EXOSUIT BOXES FOR JETPACK UPGRADES
I love this has just turned into a hype channel
Yeah
NO MAN'S SKY BUT THERE'S NO SPACESHIPS
ALL ABOARD
YOU'RE STUCK ON THE PLANET YOU START ON
Yo discord admins rename this hype channel
No man's sky but there's no men
No give us an update hype channel that opens every time there is a new update teaser
yes women's land
YOU'RE STUCK ON THE PLANET YOU START ON
@harsh pelican wasn’t that a bug for the guys who preordered the game?
Yes Woman's Land
Yeah for real its hype time
hype
No mans sky with no brim
gib?
Anyone analyze thentrailer yet?
Do we think we will be able to customize ships with this update?
@sinful geyser Yes
Maybe
SORRY, BUT YOU NEED 1034 MORE QUICKSILVER FOR THIS ITEM. BUY A QUICKSILVER TOP UP FOR $20?
Could be possible
Yes Woman’s Land
Internet Historian would be so proud
No man's Sky but it's just the Milky Way now.
@kind sail I hope not. I hope we can only get ships from lootboxes
༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ SUMMON PATCH NOTES ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ
Yes mans land
And you can only warp 70 LY at a time
discount space engine
No mans sky sequel
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
No Man’s Sky x Joe Danger
What
@harsh pelican 🤣🤣

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
NO MAN'S DANGER
No Man's Sky 2: Lost in Seattle
I reckon ship customisation for colours will come this update, because it’s been in the files for SO FUCKING LONG
joe's sky
No man's Sky but it's just the Milky Way now.
@hollow glacier no man's sky but it's the star wars galaxy

No Man's Sky 2: Lost in Seattle
@harsh pelican meep
meep
AHAHHHHA I GOT THAT REFERENCE
ladies and gentlemen, shall we begin?
Lmao
@hollow glacier no man's sky but it's the star wars galaxy
@lost flume better than the sequel trilogy
For real you guys think this will be 3.0?
༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ
can't wait for NMS but it's just a 1:1 recreation of the Earth 10,000 years ago
No Man's Sky but the Gek don't wear clothes now
minus the ancient humans
That’s the update we really need
I'm here for naked Gek.
oh no
Get rid of all this gross variation and crap
But really, naked Vy'keen.
Oh, and we finally know what Spawning Syrup looks like
So this is the NMS community when hyped huh
yes, rex
No
I wanna see them thick warrior thighs
No Man’s Sky but the Gek are replaced by the frogs from Amphibia
Yes

the cool content is leaked and then the starbound players come out
yes
This is no longer a hype channel
I want Vy'keen but with longer necks
This is an NSFW channel
What have we done
And their heads erupt from their groins
In all seriousness you know what I really want? I want to scrap a ship, and put it's cosmetic parts on my ship
make it happen sean
CUSTOM SHIPS
Y’all need some sleep dawg
woahh
CUSTOM SHIPS
ship with no cockpit
the ship with no brim
SHIP WITH NO THRUSTERS
What was the date and time say in the video file?
Ships with a clear cockpit 🤤🤤
the s
Y’all need some sleep dawg
@scarlet carbon I actually have to, it’s 3:30 here, but I’ll stay here
Bruhs I just realised we already got space whales
Just a seat flying through space
Do living ships count as space wildlife?
same
East coast gang
yee
Maybe
Italy gang
6:30 PM here still a bit early.
Man I wish living ships weren't so UGLY
@sinful geyser Bruh get yo sleep
Was it 2:41?
Tameable living ships confirmed
@sinful geyser Bruh get yo sleep
@tawdry tusk nah mate, the hype has me going stay up
tomorrow at 16:16
Get yo sleep khed, the next teaser will be up when you wake up
Like I wanna fly around in a vaporwave space jellyfish
@rotund perch if you break a piece of your living ship off, throw it onto the planet, then leave and go to another one, does that count as panspermia?
Not an amorphous blob
@sinful geyser hyperfixation do be like that sometimes
@sturdy acorn yes
O H
Aight I gotta sleep bois, keep speculating
time to colonize the entire universe with a team of living ship pilots
Hopefully there will be a new teaser tomorrow
Same
consume it with von neumann machines

I can't take the hype
Mods rename this hype we know we getting something tomorrow even if its a teaser lol.
time to tax
Lol I'm already getting the notifications from nms YouTubers
I'd sell exclusively nipnip buds at exorbitant prices. Name the station "Yorkshire Gold"
Extra tax if you're American
r/nomanshigh would rejoice
we grow our own here in merica. we good.
Oh I'm American
So the file said 2:41 I believe, waiting until then and see if anything happens... it won’t
I just appreciate irony

I would love to see consumable nipnip buds
DUDE YOU WANT SOME BUDS
What IS the file?
It’s way up in the thread. A dude found that the video Sean posted had a creation date of 16/07/20 2:41am
From the future?
Looked like it was a forged date inserted into the file
or he changed his system clock
What time is it in No Sean's Land
The fuck
08:41 in the UK right?
Yeah which is why I’m not expecting anything
2:35AM
But I’ll wait anyway because I’m hyped lol
They usually post around 6AM to 9AM Pacific Time though when they announce something. That's still about 12 hours away.
Indeed could would be strange to post at around 2am
Who is going to stay up that late
somebody at HG would
But the 16th would be an appropriate date to drop something
Luckily I get up at 6 so hopefully I wake up to a release and trailer to welcome it lol.
No Man's Sky: Desolation- Nothing changes except none of the races wear pants anymore
Shit got leaked anyway
and it turns out that the pants were part of their skin
The flaying
I’m still waiting for boob slider
Every boob procedural
"I like No Man's Sky for the plot" >proceeds to turn the butt slider to the maximum size
Speaking of. I spent the entire game thinking Artemis was a girl. But lots of youtubers refer to Artemis as him
Still would tho
HrrrrrmMmMMM First Spawn, I am trying to sell my wares but I'm dummy THICK and the clap of my gek-cheeks is losing sales
Nada pretty Thicc too
Alright what did I miss.
@rough depot Gek with no pants
Nada's Thighs
Can we all just take a moment to admire how badass No Man's Sky: Desolation sounds?
what
No Man's Sky: Desolation STARRING VIN DIESEL
@hollow glacier bruh it's way more important sounding than "the No Man's Sky: generations/variations update"
No Man's Sky Desolation STARRING SEAN MURRAY AS THE TERMINATOR
What time zone was the file in?
No Man's Sky: JoJo Reference
Now that I think about it none of the updates besides atlas rises have actually progressed the no man's sky narrative as a whole.
post-desolation we're going from 16 to 32
Desolation sounds like it's entirely focused on the story and atmosphere
i wouldn't say entirely, but partly? sure
Beyond did
Nope nothing as suspected! Ah well I’m sure we will get something in the next 24 hours.
The name gives off those vibes
Beyond fused the two storylines
the first meaning for Desolation in the Oxford dictionary is "a state of complete emptiness or destruction" that sure sounds like a reset to me
Idk bout you but desolation sounds like combat to me
Ofc there's gonna probably be more than just story
It’s been fun but I’m gonna get some shuteye now. Have fun all
But desolation sounds like we're gonna get sequel level story content
Especially if there's a new threat involved
This will be the greatest reset that ever reset
theres is no way this isnt a combat update
that 4chan leak is looking more credible now
@rough depot it 100% is probably gonna have some combat elements
you should either listen to or completely disregard 4chan
The Developers finishing up the update before tomorrow like:
in this case my ears are open
I want my floating gun ball in this update or i will scream
The leak has been spot on so far
No, I made fake update art
Calling cross platform a week early is pretty nuts
i see i see
Thank you for inquiring
Especially with no indication whatsoever of cross plat being a thing
Yeah I think its variety and combat I hope we get space physics in the leak to. I wonder if Sean will show off next gen ports on the 23rd to.
Doubt
i'm dubious about the leak because things like "real orbital mechanics" seems too much of a systems overhaul for HG to consider it worthwhile to do, but I guess we'll see
wonder how they're gonna handle simplifying that
My bet is terrain and biome gen, new graphics, new storyline and threat, improved combat.
And with the 4chan leak calling more alien and dangerous planets that absolutely fits in with the desolation name
if there is a new threat in the universe what will the sentinels do about it?
i would love for it to be right of course, because it seems like a wishlist for day 1 players like me
now that you say that wom, i want to see the sentinels fighting them
just trading shots
If it's the Void, I'd expect the sentinels to curl up and die
We're at 2015 level hype now
Indeed
this is nowhere near 2015-level hype
Last time we were 2015 hyped was for Beyond and looked how that turned out lol.
I mean like in the moment right now we're at a pretty good level of hype
Anyone get the feeling the minotaur was added to deal with bigger threats, and this content update will contain those threats? Coughspacewormcough*
Obviously
alaskan bull worm
I mean we kinda know what to expect
Why else would the thing have a massive op gun
Space w....Space wh....Space whales?
Since the 4chan leak
I can already picture some sort of biological horror planet
Lol because have you not hunted biohorrors with it? Shear joy.
If we don’t get multiswords I will be very sad 😦
Simpulation
i've barely touched exocrafts except for the roamer and nomad
Am I the only one that wants deposits back as pillars?
i think it's better to assume the leak is fake for now because assuming the leak is true would be Foundations-era levels of head-exploding hype
No, I miss pillars too...
I'd say both
deposits but they're pyramids
@glass flare everything is lining up perfectly so far
"aliens built it"
The leak might as well be real at this point
It's just that the name doesn't seem fitting without context
That moment Sean trolls the 4chan believers😞😞😞
@ionic scarab it literally describes exactly what you'd think "the desolation" update would have in it
anything else happened since the video being posted? forgive me im at school rn im in a spare class
I, at the risk of sounding naive, am new to this discord, but have heard of no leak... What is this sorcery?
@lofty rose update name leak on Xbox Store
Someone got the leak for Reginald?
Honestly pretty unlikely that Desolation will be a variety update guys. That isn't the focus of NMS anymore, and it hasn't been for over 2 years

@uncut harness cool stuff thank you
bruh
@uncut harness I just don't want people to expect everything on the 4chan leak and then we get backlash and toxic stuff going on again when some or all of those features don't actually show up
Also remember the fact that Sean posted a 💀 a few days ago? I wonder what that has to do with desolation.
desolation is a state of destruction, so pretty easy to connect the dots to a skull
@glass flare I know but that just kind of confirms the store leak imo
I AM SENT
@glass flare universe reset sounds like desolation to me
True
I'm betting a universe reset
@uncut harness
Odins beard... Now I have more research to do :p
Odins Beard lol. Valhalla isn't out just yet lmao
i agree on a reset. i'm also hopeful on big proc gen improvements, but I've had my hopes dashed for so many updates I don't really want to believe it's real this time
I'm betting a universe reset
@harsh pelican that, one thousand times yes.
I bet on my left nut sack the universe will be reset
Imagine monthly bosses for others to fight against.
@glass flare next gen is right around the corner. I'm sure Hello Games wants to shift into the new consoles. Changing the proc gen makes sense to give players a taste
@glass flare they've gotten so many mechanics and qol features out of the way it would make the most sense for them to be focusing on proc gen now than ever
I'd feel a little bad for hello games if this was all fake
im really just hoping that no mans sky does come to next gen
Having to tell everyone it's not real
@static urchin I mean the name is pretty much confirmed at this point
@rich elm it'll be backwards compatible so I'm sure it'll get a next gen upgrade. NMS with ray tracing enabled
@ionic scarab thank you you sweet sweet human being.
I am actually stoked for the idea of a reset... Been playing since day 1 ps4, it would be cool to kinda give everyone a levelish playingfield
We'll probably get an update very soon and an appearance at the Xbox event for next gen details
a tweet of a clock emoji
Mr. Murray is definitely a creature of habit.
It's probably gonna be the ungarbled trailer
Maybe... Tbh, I doubt it, but possible... Any news on the decifering?
hmm i suppose that is true
We're at least gonna see something with that store page
?? Store page??
@rotund perch i think we won't see the trailer till the Xbox event
@uncut harness update title leaked on Xbox Store
So this talk of desolation...
But then what's the deal with the store page being up so early?
Is a leak?
It is a leak from the Xbox store page
maybe a mistake, or intentional marketing
@uncut harness yes but it's official
It is confirmed as the title though
It's definitely not marketing
Nah, hg knows better than shady marketing...
The thing doesn't even have an icon
i don't think it's shady, just teasing content
... So, something to fear was right?
My honest guess is an abyss-size update
People expecting a large update are setting themselves up for failure
Tbh
Naaaaaaah
nah, i'm skeptical but it's way bigger than Abyss
Says who?
It might be next size
lol no
But smaller than beyond
says Sean, they said they were working on bigger things for this year
@uncut harness if it's abyss sized another larger update is coming in August
According to who?
😂
This is why the community always disappoints itself lol
well, they have been working on this update for a long time. remember, they wanted to do smaller updates for when things and features were ready to release (eg. living ship, exomech) so that they could then work on the unfinished things. Sean has said himself they have been working on a large/multiple large updates this year, so a large update is definitely coming
Sean said himself that a large update is in the works, so if it isn't this one, then its the next
We didn't disappoint ourselves back during atlas rises, next, and beyond
No, there will likely only be 1 summer update, but, I think it will be pretty big... The last few have been quite small... Lots of time to save up.
yeah, as well @uncut harness, this time of year, every year, is when the BIG update happens
Next and atlas rises were god tier
So it is most likely now, out of everything
Beyond had more impactful changes to the game than next and atlas rises imo
Don't forget that Sean said the crossplay update was the first of a event filled summer
exactly
My idea of that is a medium sized content update (ie no overhaul) and more community missions
Sean chooses his words EXTREMELY carefully, he only ever says "large" or "big" or "eventful summer" when he definitely means it
There, event filled!
I actually was one of the few that survived the original hype train wreck... I loved that game lol
There were less flashy features but the gameplay and qol was improved by magnitudes with beyond and synthesis
Could you imagine NMS with COD like shooting
Sean knows that when he says "eventful" summer, he knows the community expects large things
Also, its "eventful", not event filled
@uncut harness yeah I was hyped for the original launch and still wasn't disappointed. I appreciated it for what it was and the fact that they created something no one else had yet.
yeah, the people who hated the original launch would have hated asnything they released. Most of the fans on the reddit actually loved the old game, and love the new game as well
@kind sail exactly... People blame false promises, but no game dev is innocent, they can't feasably use ALL their ideas...
If we don't get a proc gen overhaul I won't be mad at HG.. They never promised anything
When you look at Sean and see how excited he was about this game (his baby), you could tell he really, really wanted to deliver on all of that. You can see his passion for the game when he talks about it and he had a ton of things he wanted to put in the game that just didn't make it but since then they have.
Sean promised me a family
i won't be mad, just disappointed again
Lol, I'm just glad the game is being supported still in general...
@uncut harness I wont lie, I will be quite a bit disappointed, but I understand that sometimes as a game dev, they probably don't wanna sit at their desks and make unique assets for 100000000 types of tree for a year so that we get some more variation
@bleak gorge the procedural generation does that for them
Unfortunately, not right now it doesn't
that way of making assets was always kind of flawed due to their small team size. maybe if they do use the Superformula they will scrap bespoke assets and let the algorithms design the trees
the game doesn't have the ability to make new assets by itself
It kinda does
that was always the vision with the superformula, for the engine to make assets instead of them
instead, the game currently just pulls assets from a pool
It's really just modifying assets, but in near infinite ways
Yeah, but @uncut harness , the game cant do that right now
except for changing the assets colours
The rigidity of asset components is the game's biggest flaw with the generation
definitely doesn't modify in near infinite ways, or we wouldn't have been tired of seeing the same trees for 3 years now
It takes the assets from a pool, and right now that pool is... well...
when you first learn to swim, any pool seems massively deep....
But once you learn to swim, you get back in the pool and realise its shallow as fuck
...That and the bland ass terrain generation
Tbh
Lol I've been playing for a looong time and still see some new things
Hmm, what game are you playing
🤔
or what drugs are they taking
lol
The only place the game "builds" assets is when it makes creatures, but even then, its very much the same creature but with slight changes.
I still find the occasional new tree, and I've played since day 1, 4 years ago.
But its always "Oh wow, that tree is growing on a rock.... cool..."
"oh, that tree has slightly different leaves... epic..."
Lol well pot, but that's besides the point...
@uncut harness bruh I swear if you're the person who still posts the hex planet in the subreddit asking if anybody has seen anything like it yet
and even when I find something new, it takes like 5 seconds for me to post on reddit "anyone seen this asset?" and get 15 replies saying "YEAH THATS SO COMMON!!"
Lol there was one day I found a flying demon pig, that was cool
The people who post on reddit going "WOW! I found a unique planet that is all metal!!!" Thinking its procedural, and then get massively disappointed by the 10000 comments saying "bro, thats a pre-scripted biome" practically sums up the entire player experience of NMS
there are rare flora/fauna spawns for sure, but things like trees and the major creature parts, you pretty much see all of them within a couple hundred hours of exploration. there just aren't many in the game. i think there's what, like 15 trees? in the whole universe?
@bleak gorge I like how there's like ten exotic biomes that are entirely static except for color
yeah, and like, 10000000000000 planets all happen to have the SAME FUCKING GRASS?!?!?!
evolution wtf happened?
Evolution by Atlas selection
Its really sad when I go on the reddit and see posts like "WOW! found my dream planet! this looks amazing!"
And its the same dull green grass, green trees, blue sky as every other post that was made 5 seconds before it
Its like, show two green grass planets to any random person, and they will tell you that they look the same.
Try explain to a no mans sky fanboy (fanboy as in wont even acknowledge criticism about the game) that the planets are the same and:
"NO!! THIS PLANET HAS DIFFERENT ROCKS! THE ROCKS HAVE A SMALL STARFISH ON ALL OF THEM SO ITS UNIQUE!!!"
It sucks that the only truely unique biomes are the mega exotic and the true exotic biomes
Everything else is just a copy paste
Not unique at all lmao
yeah, and even then its just unique because of a filter
Not the regular exotics I mean the ones that randomly pick another biomes asset and make it huge
Sean said he would do a reset if it meant making the game better
I do remember that...
Like that's the only situation where you have biome mixing in the game currently
yeah @rotund perch, those planets are the good ones
Yeah they really need to mix them up, not have a whole bunch of new biomes but just make the current ones more fluid - more grey as to what biome they actually are
.... like the OG game
I would like to see a chance of having biomes mix assets just in general
Procedural 👏
They need to ditch the biome method and focus on things being completely procedural and done by math.
Biomes 👏
👍🏼
@idle jay I know. They shouldn't even name the biomes with the cookie cutter system they have now
Yes
They even said before the game released that they didn't want to do a preset biome system
Look where we are
Handcrafted biomes that all look the same
I'd like to be forced to set foot on each planet and be surprised with what assets the game pulls each time
Yeah they said that a year before release or was it 6 months? I feel 1.0-1.3 was a lot more procedural NEXT really made everything uniform.
@idle jay I know they completely ditched that in the final release
Hopefully this update brings that back
I think they will reimplement it will either be this update or the update for next gen ports and PC.
Nah
RayRod did say it was possible on current gen.
I feel like it would happen current gen
The prerelease footage was done on a PS4
That stuff is possible
Everyone says current gen couldn't handle it but I doubt that
I know it will come to current gen to I just don't know if it will be this update or the update that will launch with next gen ports.
No current gen can handle it.
I mean even last gen builds could somewhat handle it. There is proof the early stages of development for it was for 360 and PS3.
That's pretty wack
It would be nice if HG was to implement the old water back into the game
It would be cool if we could have both depending on the planet.
It would be very cool
It was also be cool to get post-processing effects, like the one at launch
The instagram filter was dope
You're all thinking in small brain time. What we need is Freighter Upgrading next
At this point, that's basically the only thing we can't do regarding ships besides recoloring them.
And given the intentionally grindy spawn rates, not something one can really do much about other than waste days if not weeks reloading saves in the same system praying a Tier 3 capital ship of the right type appears and is S-Class with more slots than your current junkheap.
I rather have them moving.
I'd prefer to see planetside changes
I don't give a rats ass if they can move, that doesn't bloody help anything if they're stuck with the few slots they deigned to spawn with!
Seriously, they've given us everything but the two things folks have been making mods and seed generators for since day one!
Just use glyphs coordinates for finding ships
That doesn't help the 2% spawn chance of Class S.
Adding proc gen would make the game better
It already has proc gen.. It just needs improvements
The game needs more assets and looser parameters
Some shipa can be lower ranks and be good
Plain and simple
Ships*
Eventually, yes. I agree. But FUNCTIONALLY, what it's missing is recoloring, changing your crew, and getting more slots
that's not really functional changes, that's aesthetic touch-ups
Two of those, yes. Slots are MOST DEFINITELY not 'touch-ups', aesthetic or otherwise.
You know you can upgrade your exo suit cargo slots like thats alot of space
if the frigates could actually do things from a gameplay perspective besides just being eye candy for text adventures, now that i would fully support
You can make storage rooms in your freighter
After playing Empyrion a12, my atandards for proc gen and ship building has definitely shifted
Yes, I know. I know. They've given us storage containers. They've given us ship inventory customization and unlocked the max number of slots, making ship type even more pointless than ever. Rest in pieces, Haulers. They've given us the ability to tweak the functionality of virtually everything except Freighters.
Maybe they wanted to see how ship upgrading would go over before covering Freighters and Frigates.
Maybe this is test for those additions down the line.
It could be, I suppose. But if we get anything, I want some way to further push the limits of freighters (and particularly frigates) without having to trade them in and rebuild.
i want to see things that deepen the gameplay systems and add more emergent gameplay possibilities. adding more freighter slots is just more of the same. now something like enabling fleet battles in giant space wars, ok now i'm interested
^
Like for me and variation
While having a lot of variation is nice the exploration gameloop would still be boring. I would also hope they improve that
As much as I want and need variation and new biomes etc etc, I just have a hard time wrapping my head around how they could do that with current gen console hardware. The game already has a hard time chugging along with what it has. Unless they completely add an entire new engine or something, but wouldn't they reserve that for next gen consoles? My knowledge of hardware and software development is admittedly limited.
Here is the thing
It would most likely be possible to add a massive amount of variation
It just depends on how it's done
It could work on current gen RayRod proved it lol it was even somewhat working the gen before it to.
^
I'm not sure how Ray proved it lol, can you elaborate on that?
well supposedly the superformula is more efficient on the CPU usage so not necessarily
Ray ported one of his mods to his own PS4 build of I remember correctly
Ahh
There isn't much to prove its how the math is done and how resources load in and out. Also how it scales LODS. Superformula was very very efficient at this that even a Pi could do it on a low end scale.
Besides
If they were to do something as simple as make a practically infinite amount of color palettes for everything
That wouldn't lower framerate at all
so if I understand correctly, a superformula is available that would make the game run efficiently enough to have a Pi play it?
Yes, it is now, the patent expires on it a few months ago
*expired
They were gonna use it back in 2016 but they got a lawsuit against them
Right, I remember that and talked about it today on stream. But you can understand how that can all seem a bit.. insane, right?
Yeah the main reason it wasn't included was because it was patent and it expired in May.
I mean a "super formula" like that would be groundbreaking for any game on any current gen console wouldn't it?
Basically, the whole reason they thought they could make NMS was because of this formula. There were interviews back in 2014, and they basically relied on the formula for everything.
And then when they couldn’t use it, it was too late to back down
Technically speaking yes. Honestly it will even improve base building and terrain deforming significantly to.
Sean also said that everything we say in every trailer didn't use this formula, from my understanding
It's all falling into place guys. The superformula, the teasers, everything
Yeah but if you look at the old interviews with the art and assets director, he basically relied on the formula
I mean they say that but it could've been false to void legal trouble.
Why are we assuming they didn’t get to use the formula when they themselves said they didn’t use it anyways
WOAH! I’m in the shops Rn and I found an original cover NMS on disc
I think you guys are taking some massive leaps
Exactly
It just seems like a lot of speculation based on nothing but an expired patent
Nah we know this update will be about variation and combat just the scale of it is debatable.
No we don’t
No we don't at all
Expand and Bruce are right
The fact is none of us know ** anything**
Yeah, I don’t reckon the super formula is a reasonable thing to want in the game now
we don't know antything, we just have suspicions based on stuff
In truth we still don't have official confirmation
All we know is the next update is “desolation”.
Bruh all of Seans tweets, the leaks, the name of the update all point to variation and combat even the weekend missions pointed at combat and new threats heavily.
Just pointers toward it potentially being the case
All we know is that the next update is probably gonna be the most metal update ever
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Besides guys
Alright see you guys next update when everyone claims no this one will reset it, just like last time, and the one before that, and the one before that
We're going to likely find out super soon so it can either be right or wrong
This channel should be renamed to “speculation and real talk”
We just have to wait and see
Sean literally retweeted all three of his tweets from the last three days at the same time to. The skull, the video, the procgen mountains joke which is heavily foreshadowing. He wouldn't have just randomly retweeted that stuff if there wasn't anything true to it.
There’s a new update coming. He does this every single time he has an update, it doesn’t mean everything is being reset
Don't forget Sean also likes to shit with us sometimes
I'm getting egg flashbacks
The Xbox store page leaked the name Desolation that implies loniness, sadness, void, etc... It heavily implies combat and a return to form in some way.
I literally remember the egg tweet, then hearing people somehow twist it to a proc gen update
Desolation is also a theme of the story
The community missions literally said a new threat is coming in December they even referred to old E3 planets..
I think its all starting to add up.
but I think it's important to curb speculation and avoid "absolute facts" to an update we know 0 about
it's how you set yourself up for disappointment
The fact is Sean will release and make a game that Sean wants.. Hopefully!
I know its 100% gonna have combat and a new threat variation is being teased by Sean I don't think its a false drill.
No, you don't
The leak has been really accurate so far to.
I'm sorry, but you don't 100% know anything about the update.
If it does, great
but you can't say you know 100% what an update is going to have.
No one knows 100% anything. We can get good ideas, but it’s bullshit until Sean says it himself
Nope I'm confident in that and you cant change my mind bruh there is to much pointing at it.
no one is trying to change minds, just trying to cool the hype jets when we have very little confirmed info
It’s all good to speculate, but I wouldn’t get your hopes up so high that you can’t even have your mind changed about an update no one knows any solid evidence about
Yeah, the whole “you can’t change my mind, this is what it will be” mindset is what happened back in 2016, let’s just calm down
That's exactly right @bleak gorge
I wasn't trying to start anything
I just care about the game, the same way bigboi does
Not really because if it doesn't happen it doesn't happen I like to take bets and I'm sure its combat definitely.
He just doesn't want you to get overhyped then disappointed if it were to not happen Jones
Yeah, who knows? We could be talking about this and then suddenly BOOM! ITS OUT
I think the most frustrating part of this is that this mindset recurs every update
It sucks to have such high hopes then be let down
Look at the way 2020 has treated us all thus far
@molten karma when did the community mission say something was happening in December?
@rotund perch I think he is talking about when one of the missions mentioned Soleth Prime
^
And then there was the prerelease/concept art styled backpack
ohhh Soleth Prime, how I long to touch your sweet sandy face
Hints but no confirmation
Either way I wont be disappointed Halo 3 is out on PC if the update is meh I will just play that or P4G lol.
can’t remember 100% when but wasnt it some vague dialogue, hinting at an antagonist
Yes
And funny thing is that an antagonist has been mentioned in the recent weekend missions to
@uncut harness I remember that but I don't remember anything being teased for december
You guys have all read the leaked mission lore, right?
That's what I'm saying to much evidence points at combat and a new enemy even the leak said the "mechs" will make sense soon lol. I just hope its actually good.
No