Read Moo's comment above
#nms-spoilers
uncut harness
wise hill
so yes?
uncut harness
Also reminder this is the spoiler channel, so we give it a big maybe
violet narwhal
Yeah, would be strange for them to almost add it then not bother.
grizzled apex
@hybrid pendant
Yea, though the cloud increase it from 8 on consoles
uncut harness
Let them do their work and hope for the best then
Im wondering if this will be the big summer update or not
Maybe they have something bigger in plans and this will be just preparation
hybrid pendant
it wont
cunning crow
That's my guess, this is prep work
hybrid pendant
remember
hybrid pendant
they said they will updating the game to support the release of windows 10
soo no its not the summer update
uncut harness
You mean a version for Microsoft Store?
heady wyvern
But there's definitely quite a bit in the works right now.
uncut harness
Then lets cheer for our boys and gals at HG
hybrid pendant
i said with ex what my thought were
we get an update in june
and one in august
well
sullen drift
If anything a major update would be on the Anniversary yes?
And whatever is soon to just be a possible hint to it and or leading to it.
But this is just a thought to find a logical organization as to whats to come.
But this is just how I feel on it. Peoples opinions vary.
hybrid pendant
here how i see it it
hasty ledge
guys... Its just Xbox Play Anywhere...
Xbox Live and Windows Live network...
hybrid pendant
we have the crossplay update
hasty ledge
Not major cross play in "all" platforms lol
static urchin
so basically wth is going on
static urchin
crossplay?
static urchin
How do we know that?
hybrid pendant
files
static urchin
oh damn
covert wing
news icons
hybrid pendant
lol
static urchin
I don't have any friends that play the game but that's pretty cool
Cross save however
hybrid pendant
well u be able to play with us š
static urchin
maybe
mental socket
cross play will mean higher chance of meeting randoms and finding their bases
static urchin
Still cool for you guys tho
hybrid pendant
lol
and then people wonder why i don buy console
i dont fucking want to pay a subscription
covert wing
same
grizzled apex
Poor us eh?
That's why this update is useless for me
That's why I've been pushing for dataming
hybrid pendant
there some interesting stuff in datamining
but like i said i think we are getting 2 updates this summer
mental socket
what have you found š®
mental socket
Greg Buchanan has basically confirmed more updates
mental socket
he said that the new weekend missions are just "Some of the new content" he's been writing
hybrid pendant
like i said
maybe the story comunity content wil lead us to august
then aniversary update
i think it fits well because exo mech was 2 months ago
and august is in 2 months
violet narwhal
Some new procgen names for freighter wrecks.
static urchin
we need another 450 cooking recipes
violet narwhal
Found, not particularly interesting.
hybrid pendant
@static urchin depends what u find
static urchin
but the rewards are usually never worth it
hybrid pendant
its mostly for exploration
static urchin
I feel like every item in game is only used for selling
or cooking
or repairing tech
violet narwhal
MS %PROCNAME% Hammer, SV Butcher of %PROCNAME%, MS Claw of %PROCNAME%, MS %PROCNAME%'s Pride, MS %PROCNAME%'s Glory, MS Sister of %PROCNAME%, MV Daughter of %PROCNAME%, Abandoned Hulk, Hollowed core of the MS %PROCNAME%, SV Yellow %PROCNAME% are the new ones.
static urchin
true
I think if I could at least show it in my base that would be cool
like some kind of item frame or pedestal
not exactly practical but I'd love to place a hypnotic eye in the middle of my base
static urchin
true
hybrid pendant
i never done it but could be interesting
static urchin
I have almost every glitch
Never use them thi
tho
probably because I don't base build enough
old canopy
So I did a comparison between public and experimental to check whether the lighting system had been improved, seems like my game was actually bugged... when I switched back to public the extreme lighting I was having didn't happen any more
violet narwhal
There's nothing very interesting.
old canopy
nah, this update is literally just to add windows / xbox stuff
defo more coming though
this isn't the 'summer' update for sure
wise hill
there's a 'summer' update coming?
old canopy
there have been hints towards one, yeah
sullen drift
The Anniversary is coming around sooner or later yes?
strong bluff
Teleports you to a random star system?
strong bluff
Yep. ThatĀ“s all.
static urchin
bruh
strong bluff
Then you can do whatever you want.
Like Artemis path, getting to the core or other things. (Looking for black holes...)
Oh wait.
Mentioning black holes. Finishing Atlas path makes you able to detect black holes in other star systems on Galaxy map on your own.
So you donĀ“t need to ask Polo for Black holes anymore.
static urchin
I swear the only reason to complete the atlas path is for the star seed blueprint?
oh
ye
strong bluff
You need star seed blueprints to be able to make them to finish the path.
strong bluff
I think yes? Idk.
strong bluff
But I find much more useful the black hole detection ability.
static urchin
ye
wispy geyser
so we've confirmed Xbox-PC crossplay is working. Gotta be an announcement or something today right?
hybrid pendant
@wispy geyser š
wispy geyser
same. Reminded me of that and Atlas Rises.
wispy geyser
hmm...
hybrid pendant
its weird this first pic looks soo realistic
like u said u putted atlas rises and u had the no man's sky of today
wispy geyser
new build pushed to PC Experimental, Xbox Insiders now have access to a beta branch. PC and Xbox players on those branches are playing together but are not able to communicate right now.
In short, the beginnings of crossplay.
strong bluff
I wonder though - what Universe seed is used during the crossplay MP now?
Or is it reset on Experimental?
muted cliff
Probably just an integration
wispy geyser
From a stream I was watching earlier it doesn't look like a reset has happened. The streamers' discoveries were still intact.
muted cliff
Yeh, they just added it
strong bluff
Weird, as each platform uses its own seed.
hybrid pendant
@wispy geyser can u put the link here
strong bluff
Or maybe itĀ“s synced by host?
hybrid pendant
could be sync
wispy geyser
strong bluff
If it works how it thinks, in case of random encounter host is first player who is in the area.
wispy geyser
he's itailan lol
strong bluff
And in case of groups, the one who created the group.
They are in group. So then itĀ“s probably synchronized with host.
gloomy isle
So... No news today?
sullen drift
Nothing too grand. But I feel this is to be expected.
gloomy isle
Feels like something will be soon though
strong bluff
HG didnĀ“t release any news about it. Only on Steam forums.
gloomy isle
Like June July time
strong bluff
That they changed network backend and did some VR updates in the experimental version.
heavy isle
plus a ton of other shit like textures, shaders, overall "polish" but if only I could get my shit to start :/
tepid iris
ppl on Twitter are saying that an exploration / proc gen update might happen indeed
since cross-platform over PC, Xbox and PS4 could potentially include a universe reset
and best time to get exploration / proc gen changes in are with a reset
muted cliff
pls
no more hype
just wait for it
Otherwise disappointment is going to be huge
and that's something NMS doesn't deserve
tyvm
tepid iris
I'm not hyping lol
idle jay
So supposedly more news today?
muted cliff
I haven't seen any news today that were crucial in any way.
muted cliff
Besides a beta branch making crossplay possible.
Well, what stuff has been datamined?
And what's the source for it?
tepid iris
the datamining parts which aren't on the UI
idle jay
Ooh. I know about the cross play but what about the data mined stuff?
tepid iris
so nothing you're not aware off
muted cliff
Well, what about you share a source?
idle jay
Ahh
tepid iris
muted cliff
Well, so what?
muted cliff
Well, wonderful.
We already knew that.
Yes, you can crossplay in the beta branch.
Again, what's the point now?
It's a small step towards something that was already known to going to happen in order to bring people together.
Something basically 8/10 games feature nowadays.
What's the point?
tepid iris
what's the point of you being salty?
muted cliff
I'm not salty.
latent oracle
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muted cliff
I simply don't see why you are making such a huge thing out of a grain of dust
tepid iris
šæ
muted cliff
No
Because there has no reset been done.
It's just been integrated / merged.
Everyone got to keep what he had in the beta branch.
They simply merged seeds and that's it.
tepid iris
they can cross play already on the beta branch? I thought just the friend adding
muted cliff
They can, yes.
latent oracle
I mean, for a few players merging isn't hard. But considering the large number of regular player, a reset could still be possible.
idle jay
^
muted cliff
There are a few more than just "a few players" on beta branch.
tepid iris
well in our agency we develop and rollout software in phases
muted cliff
Literally all folks without patience are lingering around on beta.
idle jay
Well either way Iām going to be excited to play with the rest of you fellow travelers at last
tepid iris
so this might just be a first phase, with the reset being in the later phase
muted cliff
Of course, me too.
But it's just nothing utterly innovative.
And people are behaving like HG is going to release some sort of overhaul.
idle jay
so this might just be a first phase, with the reset being in the later phase
@tepid iris You bring up a good point
tepid iris
yeah it's a standard since like the 1950s
muted cliff
Which isn't going to happen.
tepid iris
anything is possible, it just depends on the approach and scope HG decided to allocate and take
idle jay
HG has surprised us before though so you never know
muted cliff
Dude, it's even possible that somewhere 9kly away from here a supernova happens
and in about 30 seconds we're fried.
It's possible you go to the john and slip down breaking your neck.
"Anything is possible"
tepid iris
Imagine talking with you irl lol
tepid iris
Atm you're just annoying and killing the mood to chat :p
but fine, I'm heading out for now lol
muted cliff
I'm killing your hype-o-rama
idle jay
Guys can we just cool it down a bit
tepid iris
I'm not hyped lol, I just shared without an opinion what I saw while scrolling on Twitter
latent oracle
Except none of this has been really "hype" and just speculation lol.
muted cliff
Going4Mechsā¢ š¤: ppl on Twitter are saying that an exploration / proc gen update might happen indeed
Going4Mechsā¢ š¤: since cross-platform over PC, Xbox and PS4 could potentially include a universe reset
Going4Mechsā¢ š¤: and best time to get exploration / proc gen changes in are with a reset
..I..
idle jay
Guys
Cool it
If you want to take this further then do it in each otherās DMs or something
muted cliff
Don't get me wrong, @idle jay: All this hype and speculation leads to people having expectations that might not be able to be achieved.
grizzled apex
And some new living ship parts and a possibly new exocraft was datamined
idle jay
Yeah I know
muted cliff
Then, something comes out - but isn't anything like what people expected.
And the next step is people complaining about NMS and HG.
About what shit this game is and how boring.
idle jay
You guys were just getting a little heated thatās all
grizzled apex
@idle jay
Wrote that for @muted cliff
muted cliff
And exactly what @grizzled apex said: We have NO INFO AT ALL.
That's why any speculation is 0 useful.
tepid iris
interesting, what else has been datamined so far Soleth?
muted cliff
Seriously, I totally go for asking if you folks can set up a new channel called "#speculations"
idle jay
We may or may not get what we were talking about
muted cliff
š
grizzled apex
@tepid iris
Not much. There is also 2 kinds of story eggs, 2 new backpacks and 2 new starship trailers coming in the qs shop
idle jay
Hmm. Maybe. But if the speculation proves to be correct about news today then it wouldnāt be necessary
tepid iris
I see
idle jay
Not a bad idea though
muted cliff
We'll see.
idle jay
Also this is very interesting
muted cliff
It'd keep stuff apart from #nms-spoilers which is already there for stuff in the game.
Not for stuff that is going to be in the game.
grizzled apex
There is a set if "Special" items and "Hero"items
muted cliff
lol
grizzled apex
Special trails, special backpacks and a special story egg
idle jay
With full cross play coming then that means we only need to setup one hub
grizzled apex
And a hero variant
muted cliff
Yup.
People get to play together is going to make stuff simpler.
And only one single dev branch
Because everything is going to be consolidated
Means, update frequency is likely going to increase.
idle jay
But anyway this is just my thoughts on the whole matter and the possibilities lol
muted cliff
When it comes down to optimizing workflow it's a pretty smart move.
pastel falcon
So, parachuting back into this server after a while lol
empty cedar
I'm just some guy, but fwiw I don't see the problem with a little speculation in any channel, just so long as it doesn't start to drown out the channel-specific stuff.
pastel falcon
apparently pandemonium happened around new NMS datamining while I was asleep lol
what's new overall?
idle jay
There is full crossplay coming
glass flare
is that confirmed, or just crossplay between PC and Xbox
pastel falcon
Is that a solid confirm?
glass flare
the latter seems much more likely to me than PC - Xbox - PS4
idle jay
They wouldnāt need a friend code for just between Pc and Xbox
glass flare
friend code, sounds like Switch incoming
idle jay
But yeah it seems highly likely right now that cross play between all platforms is coming
quiet horizon
I do wonder
empty cedar
So how does that suggest a wipe? (Not questioning the idea, just trying to understand.)
quiet horizon
Maybe?
zinc rivet
wipe of what?
quiet horizon
The universe gen should be consistent throughout platforms though so prolly not
Wipe of the generation
empty cedar
Ah ok
quiet horizon
Course maybe I'm wrong
empty cedar
Saw it mentioned earlier and was wondering where it came from.
heavy isle
I don't see a reset coming
glass flare
people would flip out if all their discoveries, bases, everything was wiped
but that would be necessary for crossplay sync
quiet horizon
Wouldnt mind a gen reset though
zinc rivet
@glass flare that's exactly what I am thinking. But i have no clue how is crossplay possible without doing that
quiet horizon
Bases wouldn't be wiped, I don't think
glass flare
we definitely are overdue for terrain and biome improvements
quiet horizon
If it were like the last reset, everything stays but planets look a lot different
idle jay
I would love a universe reset. Because it makes room for you know...the thing we canāt stop talking about
heavy isle
You want cross play between console you have to join party, i doubt its the ambient multiplayer feature
quiet horizon
Sure it breaks some bases a bit, and buries a few
heavy isle
Party owners discoveries are what all party member sees, and once you leave party your back on your own instance is my assumption
glass flare
b - maybe. but all discoveries would have to be wiped, all custom names
idle jay
Tbh I would have fun exploring the ruins of my base if a reset happened
heavy isle
Nah
zinc rivet
I would be so pissed...
quiet horizon
I dont even remember what happened with the last reset, damn
heavy isle
Next and they warned of it, I doubt reset is coming without any notice
hybrid pendant
glass flare
kibbles I don't think that makes sense to me. if you were on the same planet, you join a friend's group on xbox and suddenly everything changes. that would be a bad experience
heavy isle
I'd assume that would be the experience lol
hybrid pendant
even maybe
quiet horizon
Oh my god this thumbnail is TERRIBLE
hybrid pendant
hints of variation update
idle jay
Iāll take a look
heavy isle
Crossplay limitations are certainly going to be a thing if no reset is happening, just like when you reload a save after being in a party, there could just be limits and thats how they do that
hybrid pendant
i dont know
i saw no limits soo far
building bases
spawning cargo
building in cargo
zinc rivet
stargates,omg
hybrid pendant
bridges?
pastel falcon
OG color palletes
zinc rivet
we all talking about what's to come. But... do we know where will it come? This month or later?
hybrid pendant
august
zinc rivet
oh damn, thats toof ar
heavy isle
Well since experimental is a shit show right now I doubt a console release update soon lol
hybrid pendant
nah
this experimental will take some time to come
its different there needs to be a lot of test for crossplay
we helping them by testing it between xbox and pc
heavy isle
Yeah network backend overhaul is a powerful statement lol
heavy isle
Its not just okay 2 days, let's rip the bandaid haha
hybrid pendant
lol
idle jay
Mmm. There is some good looking stuff
empty cedar
I just got excited when I saw the word "hangar" in that data mining video.
hybrid pendant
yup and a lot of variation stuff
heavy isle
thanks to Lo2K of course at modding discord but have at it
hybrid pendant
what is that?
heavy isle
A comparison between game files of public and experimental branch
Whats been added and whats been changed - we use to see how bad our mods are borked
glass flare
i see a few new assets but it doesn't seem like any huge update to flora and fauna diversity
heavy isle
So there you have raw data you can use at your own discretion or interpretation
Yeah lots of shader and texture stuff but model adds are limited
Tons of audio though damn
vague shuttle
I Notice one of the things mentioned is Stargate, it seems to me that is what they called the original cycle of small portals around a big portal that was shown in one of the original trailers
Cycle =circle
hybrid pendant
@vague shuttle its old datamining
glass flare
i don't look in the files much, what is the "Coral" biome? is that existing or new?
glass flare
maybe their directory structure is haphazard and those are just ocean parts
idle jay
Probably
heavy isle
^
glass flare
\BIOMES\SWAMP . hmmmm
heavy isle
@tulip tangle there you go pal I got em warmed up for ya š¤£š
glass flare
RODENTBUM the content we were all waiting for
idle jay
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glass flare
was there always a "whale" ocean creature model type
idle jay
No
I donāt think so
Also is it just me Jordan or does that lighting look different?
Because I thought I saw files for lighting changes
heavy isle
Tons of shader adds and changes yeah
hybrid pendant
this one @idle jay
idle jay
Yeah that looks very different. Besides the obvious no clouds
heavy isle
Is that modded though?
hybrid pendant
no cycka said it was a bug
heavy isle
I want said bug lol
idle jay
š
heavy isle
That looks great
idle jay
There needs to be some planets without clouds
heavy isle
Fix clouds dude would live there
hybrid pendant
so far from what i can say
with just crossplay between xbox and pc
fluid as fuck
uncut harness
holy that looks weird
glass flare
the only thing i can concentrate on is how there are two rock formations next to each other that look exactly the same. i miss my procedural game
uncut harness
Im kinda of confused when it comes to jumping galaxies. I've read about it online but I'd like a more up to date account of it. Do you keep the items you have in your inventory slots, like in general. Say just normal things like carbon, oxygen, tritium etc etc or do those just all get wiped
And how does the base thing work when moving
I'd ask in the nms help channel but I feel this is more a spoiler so I didnt
heady wyvern
@uncut harness You keep all items, tools, techs, ships, freighters and fleet. Some of your tech in your multitool, suit, and ship may be broken.
heady wyvern
Yep. Tech in your tech slots will not be broken, though.
uncut harness
Lol
So then I could just jump and instantly repair everything given I have all the resources in my inventory
heady wyvern
If you've got the mats, yes.
uncut harness
Easy then, thats np
One last thing
How would I know I can jump galaxies?
I know I have to go to the core
But when do I know I'm actually there
I'd like to get to a point where I'm at it or just before it so I can explore and get everything else I'd like before jumping off
hybrid pendant
Xbox/PC united
heady wyvern
There will be no more systems in a ~3000 LY radius around the core. You cannot jump into the core unless your drive is fully charged.
uncut harness
Oh alright
So I'll know once I see no more systems in the galaxy map then
Last question, how do bases work, are they all deleted as I've read or will I later be able to return to them
tulip tangle
Many of the things getting attention right now from "datamining" are ancient deprecated files that have never seen use, or they just have unfamiliar names you aren't used to correlating with current ingame things
heady wyvern
You'll be able to return to your bases via teleport terminus. This will let you travel between previously visited galaxies.
uncut harness
Oh thats cool
jovial stag
but MAKE A BASE BEFORE YOU RETURN... š
uncut harness
Alot has been changed then compared to what I've read
Im glad to know that
Ah yes, I forget to make bases sometimes, end up relying on stations :P
Oh, does the anomaly get affected by jump galaxies in any way, like new tech blueprints or anything
jovial stag
well if you change galaxies and don't make a base then return to the previous galaxy, you won't be returning to the one you just visited unless you jump again.
uncut harness
Right right, that makes sense
heady wyvern
@uncut harness No, the Anomaly will remain as you remember it.
uncut harness
:(
Kinda hoping for new tech
Alright, thank you all, cleared up my misunderstandings
twilit hare
wispy geyser
Some of that stuff has been in the files for years.
waxen garnet
Some textures related to the unused Alien biome have apparently been edited.
But I believe they might be used by other assets that are actually in the game already.
idle jay
The license expired. HG can legally use it now
heavy isle
They have been edited
CRC proves, lots of texture and entity changes to the old shit like the wind turbine
"MODELS\PLANETS\BIOMES\COMMON\BUILDINGS\PARTS\BUILDABLEPARTS\UTILITYPARTS\MODULE_WINDTURBINE\ENTITIES\BLADE1.ENTITY.MBIN" got changed for example
Strange they'd do that if not for something
Unless game wouldn't compile otherwise lol
But southerncard is right it has been in the game since NEXT some of those module parts
tepid iris
Some of the beyond features were for years in data mines too iirc
Whatās the super formula ?
idle jay
The one they brought up at pre release that would be used to give variety
tepid iris
Ah itās a different way from the e3 footage how everything looked?
How was that licensed so hg couldnāt use it ?
waxen garnet
Strangely enough, the voxel files has references called superformula. Might not be THE superformula, though.
idle jay
The guy who created the formula claimed copyright so when HG tried to use it they got into a bit of legal trouble. Iām going off of what I remember just so you know
waxen garnet
Apparently, they never actually used it.
tepid iris
Oof
nocturne zephyr
maybe an edited version of it
idle jay
But the license expired now so they can use it
astral sparrow
Cross play for next update š³
waxen garnet
Or, for a more tinfoil hat theory, they did use it, got into troubles, started from scratch with what they could scramble and released what we had.
idle jay
^
waxen garnet
There are so much unfinished stuff in the game files. You really wonder why they never got around finishing it.
idle jay
Thatās pretty much exactly what happened
nocturne zephyr
there's always unfinished content in the files tbh
that needs polishing
or is waiting to be fleshed out
waxen garnet
Like, all the stuff datamined today regarding biomes were there day one.
There are full suites of biome assets and buildings that just lack stuff like collision.
Some biome model folders are fuller than some from the current game.
grizzled apex
I wish someone updated to include all this stuff in the dataming page in the wiki
grizzled apex
Someone was talking about a way to figure out if the experiemntal mp servers are steam servers, hg servers, or completely new ones is that possible?
gloomy isle
Yeah that leak has been accurate so far
Easy guess with the community missions but they have me with cross play
mighty rampart
well as the first reply in the post said, "Unless I can fuck the aliens I dont care"
grizzled apex
If hg shifts the entire game multiplayer system to one singular server, would Sony and xbox still require a subscription for the games online component?
mighty rampart
Probably, yeah
idle jay
If a person doesnāt have the subscription on one of those platforms then the mp would just be turned off I guess
grizzled apex
Damn. I remember someone saying people would stop paying for subscriptions when they realise they pay for something sony /xbox isn't maintaining in the first place
@idle jay
Yea that's what happens
Even if the servers are HG's own, will we still need the subscriptions?
uncut harness
I don't think Fortnite needs either PS+ or XBG.
BUt that is a rare case though. I'm just speculating cause it's interesting to me.
idle jay
Even if the servers are HG's own, will we still need the subscriptions?
@grizzled apex Probably yes because of PS and Xbox online policy or something
grizzled apex
Wow. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. They aren't dealing with server costs for that game! The hell is this?!
idle jay
Itās not for HG to decide unfortunately
Idk
We donāt have info on it yet
I could be wrong
uncut harness
Speculating is one of my favourite things to do because I'm mostly always wrong.
nocturne sun
Relatable
Not every online game uses ps plus/live, i think it depends on if they use the console servers or not?
idle jay
Something to note about the lore
Once the cross platform update comes out that would mean the Atlas has 10 minutes left
sullen drift
The Travelers are no longer separated, no longer kept apart. They stand side by side at the end of days, Traversing the remnants of creation. Laughing, Dying.
10 Minutes.. Tell The Atlas dies.. I wonder if we will reach 0 one day.
Will production on the game stop?
Or will something happen past those final moments...
Oh well, We won't know tell it happens, Heh.
idle jay
Based on the other text, I think something will happen
sullen drift
It is a feeling I share bud.
gentle harness
I read that 4chan "leak". Would love a progen overhaul. I'm sure everyone else would too. I just question how they would do that unless they basically reset the whole thing again.
grizzled apex
Etarc claims we found some story content? Is this true?
craggy sluice
That 4chan leak got some things right so far
grizzled apex
Yea, I'd still take it with a grain of salt. Maybe if the leaker is legit, they could post vids or images like with next (Although that was a different type of leak)
uncut harness
Quick question
Can you choose the galaxy you go to when you jump?
Or is it just a specific one
craggy sluice
No, you go to the next galaxy
jovial stag
Can you choose the galaxy you go to when you jump?
@uncut harness Depends which mission you're at the end of... Atlas Path, no you go to the next in sequence so from #1 to #2. If the Artemis quest line then you do get the choice of 4;```css
Galaxy Choices
At the end of the Artemis quest line the 4 orbs give you the option of going to one of the following galaxies
> Calypso [3] (Raging) [Red]
> Eissentam [10] (Lush) [Green]
> Budullangr [7] (Ancestral) [Blue]
> Hilbert Dimension [2] (Normal) [Teal]
or you could stay in Euclid.and if you just go to the Core of each galaxy then its always the next one in sequence
heavy isle
Theres no procgen overhaul lol
No hard evidence of that. Best to ask folks in the modding channel or discord for some good info - some console folks are spreading pure lies and have no idea what they are talking about lol
crisp fern
Wow. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. They aren't dealing with server costs for that game! The hell is this?!
@grizzled apex it's the console tax, it's garbage
uncut harness
@jovial stag What are the characterizations yoh have next to the galaxy names, like raging, lush, etc? And alright, thank you
heady wyvern
It affects what types of planets are common in that galaxy.
south needle
Galaxy Types
Empty - This type is referred to in-game as Ancestral, Frozen, Exhausted or Silent galaxy, and displayed with a blue hologram.
The following numbered galaxies belong to this type: 7, 12, 27, 32, 47, 52, 67 etc, a total of 26. [1]
Harsh - This type is referred to in-game as Burning, Raging, Relentless or Ruthless galaxy, and displayed with a red hologram.
The following numbered galaxies belong to this type: 3, 15, 23, 35, 43, 55, 63 etc, a total of 26.
Lush - This type is referred to in-game as Halcyon, Inspiring, Serene or Tranquil galaxy, and displayed with a green hologram.
The following numbered galaxies belong to this type: 10, 19, 30, 39, 50, 59, 70 etc, a total of 25.
Norm - This type is referred to in-game as Imperfect, Improved, Parallel or Rebuilt galaxy, and displayed with a teal hologram.
The majority of the galaxies belong to this type, a total of 178.
meager stag
I'd not seen that 4chan leak. Obviously it's likely bullshit, but damn if it doesn't press my buttons.
Actual procgen all over the place... new biomes... orbital stuff... gib
south needle
@meager stag What's this you guys are talking about? I missed this part I think, new biomes, orbital stuff?
meager stag
Scroll up a bit, tweet link referencing a 4chan rumour post. Very very very likely that it's completely made up.
Just saying that it would be a dream come true if it was real... which it isn't... probably
south needle
Huum interesting. I remember Sean once told the orbital mechanics was "removed" due to confusion to some players that tested the game.
But, we never found anything related to that in the game files.
glass flare
i feel dirty just opening a 4chan link
that stuff feels too good to be true
cold planets are further away from the sun etc I remember Sean talking about that in an interview pre-launch
heady wyvern
This does not sound like something they'd drop without hefty teasing.
glass flare
well the leak does say they expect the missions update to be an in-game ARG of sorts that teases features for the big update
maybe HG decided to do that because doing a real-life ARG during a pandemic is probably a bad idea
crisp fern
tbh there's been traces of ARG stuff in mission tables even before that as I recall
but very basic and obviously up to now never really used
heavy isle
Yep
outer cobalt
Hmmm, just came across something in the localisation files.
VR headbob and being able to see their body?
<Property value="TkLocalisationEntry.xml">
<Property name="Id" value="UI_VR_HEAD_BOB" />
<Property name="English" value="VariableSizeString.xml">
<Property name="Value" value="VR Head Bob" />
</Property>
<Property value="TkLocalisationEntry.xml">
<Property name="Id" value="UI_VR_SHOW_BODY" />
<Property name="English" value="VariableSizeString.xml">
<Property name="Value" value="Show Body in VR" />
</Property>
Devilin you seen any evidence in procgen redo? I haven't. Only thing is shaders and texture adds and modifying
outer cobalt
I have not looked into the actual changed source files (yet). Can't really say I am seeing a whole lot of actual new content to be honest, besides of course the obvious new cross-play that was to be expected with Xbox/Microsoft (PlayFab Party)
The have scheduled some new Nexus Missions, but not seen actual new story (yet). Appears just more of the same we already have
glass flare
I would think if it's as massive as the leak suggests, they would have that work walled off to not spoil the surprise, plus it might be incompatible with current code
outer cobalt
The 4chan leak? No actual evidence was provided for anything. Anyone with a bit of a brain can put up info like that. I take it with a huge grain of salt.
crisp fern
Also this update is probably literally just what it says on the tin and prepwork for the new weekend missions, as that's the content indicated to come soonest
heavy isle
Indeed
crisp fern
We have zero solid indications this way or that to what a more substantive update may entail yet
heavy isle
Yes thank you!
outer cobalt
Let me add the link to PlayFab Party by the way. Then tell me if any of this comes as a surprise ever since it was added to the 'binaries'
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/gaming/playfab/
crisp fern
Not to suggest anyone here at present is saying otherwise mind
heavy isle
Nice link
glass flare
well yeah that's what the leak says, this next update will just be missions for the ARG. mind you I'm extremely skeptical of it. but getting crossplay right does lend maybe 2% more credence to it
outer cobalt
Oh and sure we can expect more to come, as I am sure new content is planned and worked on too.
crisp fern
Atm all we really have as a basis for speculation is what HG has said & historically done imo
heavy isle
No one here, there's some hype going around getting folks excited though so it's good to calm it down a bit
crisp fern
Some community requests addressed, bugs fixed or attempts made to fix, and then a side of unexpected stuff of mixed quality
heavy isle
Has anyone tried cross play yet? Wonder what the experience is
Yeah agreed gmr
At least they fixed decals on pc it seems!
outer cobalt
Would love to see the hype calm down, even though I understand being excited for what is to come. It's just that seeing someone stroll through the source files to randomly pick some cool files we all have seen long ago, makes me wonder what the intent is. Speculation, nothing but ...
crisp fern
I find it hard to be excited given what's come of changes, lol
outer cobalt
Not until I get an idea of what is to come, can I be excited. I just know something new is brewing, that's it, nothing to be fuzzed about
crisp fern
Weeks of bug fixes, some left unresolved, half-hearted features poorly integrated
glass flare
@heavy isle there were a few people that tried it earlier today, said it was very impressive in terms of how smooth it was
heavy isle
Do we know how discoveries are handled for sure?
I think that's the only thing I'm not clear on yet since I haven't tried it yet
glass flare
not sure. i expect some sadness on that front lol
heavy isle
Haha
crisp fern
@heavy isle since you're here anyway and this is faster, why would you happen to think a reset/regen wouldn't be needed for a substantive content updoot to NMS?
heavy isle
It wasn't for Beyond and basebuilding has become popular, so I don't think they will.
The whole cross play thing is unknown, what's the level of cross play is the real question
Again just my opinion that it isn't required not a fact by any means
crisp fern
Beyond was a different style of content update
But I can sorta see where you're coming from
heavy isle
I'm cool either way, if reset is cleaner by all means please
glass flare
if we're talking about terrain gen updates, I don't see how a reset wouldn't be mandatory
crisp fern
There was also a lukewarm response to Beyond among some in the community, which I have to imagine HG didn't miss
heavy isle
Last thing we need is corrupt garbage lol
Well they've seeded in lots without resets so far
crisp fern
Like for everyone without VR, that's a major part of the update that's meaningless to them
That's true, but it's also not been stuff that's really excited many or kept their interest, and a lot of it remained ignored in favor of base operations for profits
snow stream
I'd agree that it's not required, but when you consider it logically, a reset now is the perfect thing.
While we have no official word on the extent of the crossplay, seemingly at least, there are icons for all platforms, suggesting that there will be full crossplay.
If that's the case, which is easier, a full reset and everyone lives in a shared universe
OR
creating all these weird exceptions and priorities for which universe is loaded from which platform based on who is doing what or who is the party leader or so on
it also is the perfect time for them to introduce a big variety update, which people want
It just seems reasonable and likely to me that, especially given Seans previous comment about not really wanting to do another reset anytime soon, that adding a feature people want, that would be more easily implemented with a reset is the perfect time to give us one
crisp fern
Like a lot of the stuff Visions added, I think it was, is just flat out ignored by a bunch of folks.
heavy isle
As long as they give notice lol
crisp fern
If memory serves PlayStation NMS universe gen is also oddly different from the rest for whatever reason
heavy isle
Yeah
crisp fern
So in that respect alone if they wanted crossplay to thoroughly work, yeah, regen to sync would be needed
glass flare
is it? huh didn't know that
crisp fern
Yeah, I can't remember how exactly, but there's something weird about it
glass flare
every file is binary encoded with S O N Y S U X
heavy isle
Yeah our black hole routes for one are different
Ps4 that is and some other stuff I can't remember
If full blown crossplay with ambient multiplayer included i agree for sure on the reset
crisp fern
I still think, if they're going this direction, it would be wise to have another smaller update introducing a base design feature to enable the saving, editing, and easier restoration/reconstruction of bases in new environs
I say smaller but know that in itself is a rather substantial feature
crisp fern
Even now that feature would be beneficial for moments when you find a planet you like more than one you compromised on
heavy isle
So yeah interesting point
If they give ability to easily lift n shift doesn't seem so painful
outer cobalt
It does appear to me that PS is going to be part of cross-platform, not just Steam/GOG/Microsoft/Xbox
crisp fern
But they definitely have to get it right, as we already saw some folks put off by base power requirements being intro'd
glass flare
that was one of the worst things they've done to the game IMO
heavy isle
I enjoy the logic aspect but yeah hard requirement I get it
glass flare
i get that some people may enjoy wiring up a power source so their doors work, but many of us barely tolerate base building to begin with
fierce surge
I still donāt understand why you have to wire doors in power-connected prefabs
glass flare
every update seems to push me more in the direction of starting over with a creative save
but i enjoy some level of danger and hardship so I haven't quite gotten there yet
crisp fern
Every time I play Normal I'm like, "this is a bunch of hoops that aren't very enjoyable" and when I tried Survival it was like, "so i have to jump the same hoops but a little more frequently" and that's how I ended up maining Creative
heavy isle
Not talking frsh save due to update *
Haha
I hated survival and really pd
this door knob barely opens now I have to try with Vaseline on
Lol
crisp fern
I mean it when I say that imo they haven't changed the fundamental gameplay over the updates, which is why yeah, after 4 years of playing the game off & on, 2 of which probably in Normal primarily, I can say I'm just kinda tired of it, lol
so thankfully there's Creative where I can just chill & enjoy the sights & sounds
heavy isle
From Jordan276 on Twitter anyone speak that language? Lol
crisp fern
is French
crisp fern
It's the network settings page it seems like
glass flare
there was an english version of that screen shared earlier today
heavy isle
So it seems party owner is the host of that session by the looks of that
outer cobalt
Anyone seen this or used it?
UI_CHAT_COMMAND_UNKNOWN (NMS_LOC5_ENGLISH)
Valid commands:
'/group' or '/g': Message group
'/local' or '/l': Message nearby players
'/whisper<><TITLE_BRIGHT> player<><TITLE>' or '/w<><TITLE_BRIGHT> player<><TITLE>': Message <><TITLE_BRIGHT>player<><TITLE>
'/join<><TITLE_BRIGHT> player<><TITLE>': Join <><TITLE_BRIGHT>player<><TITLE>'s group
'/leave': Leave group
'/invite<><TITLE_BRIGHT> player<><TITLE>': Invite <><TITLE_BRIGHT>player<><TITLE> to group
'/kick<><TITLE_BRIGHT> player<><TITLE>': Kick <><TITLE_BRIGHT>player<><TITLE> from group<>
I assume Jordan joined, went to his server instance, built a base, which makes sense, but then it doesn't save there, just like in party today
glass flare
that would seem like a fairly poor version of crossplay if changes are temporary
heavy isle
It's hg lol
Not sure how else that's possible I guess without that being the case and that party owner crown icon, again my assumption
Nexus is easy to crossplay ambient folks right it's actually in the core in a system lol
No overlap in discoveries there, but I guess we will know soon enough
glass flare
it seems like the HG thing to do, just extending what they already have
heavy isle
The orb has returned for cross play hahaha
It hasn't its a joke but would make me laugh
heavy isle
What will be fun is a PC player kitted to hell with mods inviting console players to their group and ravaging, be it racing, combat, what have you lol. Interested to see what happens there
waxen garnet
I'd hate it if they restricted modding because of crossplay, which could totally happen.
If they do, they have to make biome MODs obsolete by resetting the universe and giving us way more variety.
grizzled apex
Anything modded would appear as vanilla for other players without mods lol
mighty rampart
yeah I dont think they'll restrict modding at all because its all client side to begin with aside from getting some cosmetic stuff earlier
uncut harness
What is Atlas and why does it have 10 minutes of life left @idle jay
idle jay
When you read the remembrance logs it ends up revealing to you the meaning behind the number 16. The Atlas is on a planet that is being consumed by a blackhole. 16 is the number of minutes the Atlas has left until it gets destroyed. One of the other logs says at 10 minutes the travelers will be together
waxen garnet
That's not what I meant about MODs.
uncut harness
What is the Atlas though @idle jay
idle jay
The Atlas is the being you come across in the game through the Atlas path
uncut harness
Why cant the Atlas just leave if its a being
idle jay
Would you like some more spoilers?
uncut harness
Yeah idrc
waxen garnet
I know pretty well about the client side restrictions. But by using MODs you can break some of the game limitations and impact other players game in ways you wouldn't be able to otherwise.
uncut harness
You could tell the whole game honestly, I dont consider knowledge spoilers
Makes it less confusing for me
idle jay
From your perspective it seems like they are a being. You end up finding out that itās actually a supercomputer and itās simulating the entire universe the game takes place in
uncut harness
Interesting
So in other words
Once that 10 minutes which will probably updates after this next one
The games getting wiped
idle jay
Ye
idle jay
The wipers?
idle jay
Oh lol thatās because people just want a variation/exploration overhaul really bad and it would require a reset in order to do so
uncut harness
Cant they just literally add another galaxy
In the sequences
Like near the beginning so people can jump to it easily for all of that
idle jay
Idk. Could be reason we donāt know about for why they canāt
uncut harness
Just seems to me like it'd be way easier to create a new galaxy for it
Than wipe and basically create an entire game again
idle jay
Yeah. But like I said, could be a reason for it
grizzled apex
All 255 have been generated at this point. Adding another would make it the 256th, and getting there would be very difficult
uncut harness
I guess
covert wing
Just reset the universe GOD
It sucks so much ass that we have to have these discussions every time because of bases of all things. Just a mind boggling prioritization
grizzled apex
Just watched xaines vid. Apparently the directory is nms 2.43> and onwards
outer cobalt
Changes in NMS_LOC5_ENGLISH https://pastebin.com/yAyT0N7v
grizzled apex
Thanks!
Holy shit
Oh my God this storyline looks awesome
That's what the hero and special items were!
And the abyss
outer cobalt
Might not make full sense as the text you are looking for is part of multiplayer missions, but only text that's actually new and not organised as I didn't feel like going through all that
grizzled apex
No, I found the new mission text
All of it
I wont read more cause this is exciting!
outer cobalt
And now ETARC is going to get mad at me for not sharing there .... lol
grizzled apex
Anyone who wants a small taste if what's to come:
- more about the abyss
- more anomaly characters
- Some more story about geks I think
I can see why you didnt @outer cobalt
Even I'm not gonna spoil this for myself
outer cobalt
I might, but spoiler for sure
grizzled apex
HUGE spoiler warning
The missions might start off the same way as the last season, but they get better
Starting with yet another fetch quest
outer cobalt
Personally I don't feel they change all that much, just new text/lore/story
Small bits and pieces as we have grown used to
hybrid pendant
we have come a long way in 2016
even last year when beyond dropped i never thought crossplay would come
tepid iris
lol I doubt that actually
like everyone in the server was speculating for crossplay/platform to be one of the remaining pillar updates
when they still had to reveal them
covert wing
Reset when
tepid iris
when the Elder Gods awake and destroy Gielinor - oh wait wrong game š
hybrid pendant
it was something we wished
i wished it come
but i never thought it was possible
tepid iris
well, it's HG š
in 2016 ppl would probly have said Multiplayer, VR and CrossPlay would be never possible
hybrid pendant
yeah and sean said it a year ago he didnt thought crossplay was possible
and here we are
mental socket
so the new weekend missions will still be fetch quests but with new text?
hybrid pendant
i dont think soo
uncut harness
hopefully not
uncut harness
i mean that would be disappointing if they just do new Text but old missions
grizzled apex
@mental socket
Yes
They will be fetch quests with new story
Involving the abyss, ariadne, the portal network and a new traveller
Let me finish reading and I'll put out a not so spoiler version of it here
gloomy isle
I've read it, and there's one really big lore thing that ties into remembrance really well
Like I kinda went wow
grizzled apex
Yup
grizzled apex
That's the great thing about calling the same lore writer back
So I read the story
I'll definitely say it's much deeper
It involves all the iterations of the anomaly.
It is a story of misconception, discovery, and betrayal
But most importantly, its in complete
To me it seems like its cut off. The last bit of it. HG might be refining it
This could possibly mean that the missions will be back next weekend
mental socket
hmm
gloomy isle
It looks like it'll take a long while to get to the end
grizzled apex
Extremely
This season is very long. But very engaging
I dunno how HG is gonna handle players missing a weekend and a huge chunk of the story
Also, is it just me or do the new descriptions sound a lot more like a singleplayer mission?
Like HG listened to us ranting about focusing on MP too much with the missions?
covert wing
where 
grizzled apex
Changes in NMS_LOC5_ENGLISH https://pastebin.com/yAyT0N7v
Courtesy @outer cobalt
This is everything new added in the experimental text wise
covert wing
thx
grizzled apex
Hope you like today's news
tepid iris
I dunno how HG is gonna handle players missing a weekend and a huge chunk of the story
I hope that they rework the missions
so that when the mission ends, it stays in the game as a perma mission
so if you miss it, you play it solo and don't miss out, but at less or no quicksilver
grizzled apex
Oh yea! Maybe like the weekend being a premier of the mission!
tepid iris
yeah
grizzled apex
That would be sweet!
Unfortunately the end jsnt here yet, and it looks like the story might not tie in to a giant update after all
covert wing
....
grizzled apex
How to I do the spoiler thing?
covert wing
you're in spoiler channel
grizzled apex
True
But I feel like experiencing this first hand will be big
And hg might drop hints at that time to reflect upcoming changes
outer cobalt
use double pipes ||spoiler|| or select text and select spoiler from options above
grizzled apex
Oh thanks!
grizzled apex
|| The mission talks about how we are feeding the abyss and turns it into a villain if sorts. Till the end as I can see, the abyss attempts to help us solve the mystery that will unravel in the final few missions ||
|| but then again it is implied that the abyss created the issue which it then tries to help us solve. So might be the abyss tricking us into giving it complete control over a dying atlas. In that case I'd say we'd get a reset. ||
covert wing
Sean pls
grizzled apex
|| The story definitely hints at the abyss getting stronger with each mission. ||
sullen drift
Wasn't the Abyss added in like.. Atlas Rises yes?
Getting the info from factories.
Korvaks ones specifically.
I remember worrying they forgot it but I am glad to be wrong.
shadow ocean
is the story out?
grizzled apex
The upcoming weekend mission story? Yes, it's been datamined
@sullen drift
Yes, but this is the weekend event story
TLDR; || The corruption isnt a glitch in the Dying atlas, it's the Abyss ||
sullen drift
I get it but this is just a tie into that yes? Its the same being..?
grizzled apex
Yes
sullen drift
As the words of that old lore.. Its another power in the Universe.
grizzled apex
Yes
Yet the new lore makes it seem extremely.... powerless
Weak. Only functioning because of our sacrifices
sullen drift
I remember how ominous that sounded, But uh.. I mean its sorta working in secret so I dunno how much it can do at the moment, It seems to be only now emerging more.
grizzled apex
Yep. Its story will be built upon by the weekend missions
sullen drift
Heck most people probably will think this is the first time it existed.
As that old lore was.. pretty under the radar.
grizzled apex
Very
heavy isle
Hey @hybrid pendant saw your tweet can you confirm how discoveries worked when you were in your friends group?
Sorry for the ping, just trying to understand fact vs myth - I assume you joined his instance and only got discoveries on his platform? Couldn't obviously save there right?
hybrid pendant
i didnt checked soory
heavy isle
Ah no worries man
hybrid pendant
well im hanging out with a guy on xbox
heavy isle
You're like the golden test subject lol
Yeah I can understand the nexus crossplay but I assume ambient isn't a thing outside of it unless you join a group?
Like you both in the same system on your own platform without joining together you wouldn't see each other.
I'll have to spin up experimental again and find out lol
tepid iris
you're like in all the videos about cross play lol
heavy isle
okay so interesting
in nexus we found a cool dude on Xbox and when taking off had the option to return to our system or his
he actually spawned in my instance in steam and I saw him flying around which is interesting
grizzled apex
Was it like an on screen prompt? Ask him for pics
heavy isle
im recording the whole thing all good
hybrid pendant
@heavy isle it works really well right?
heavy isle
so far so good
tepid iris
the option to return to your system or his was added in mech or living
heavy isle
tepid iris
that's not new now
heavy isle
unionjack is on console
so the bug is bag where all the systems he discovered on xbox show as me as the discover lol
heavy isle
nope
hybrid pendant
before him?
heavy isle
no sir
so if you are on another console's instance and go to the galactic map it seems to disconnect and throw you back instantaneously to your own instance
Edit: Seems a tad bugged trying to iron this out lol
hybrid pendant
experimental soo still shit to fix
mental socket
remember to report bugs on
heavy isle
its hard to know which platform you are on lol
because all your discoveries are still there so
plus not having voice chat makes testing difficult but trying to nail down behavior of leaving the system, which right now I feel you just get thrown back to your own console
hybrid pendant
there is voice chat?
heavy isle
well no that's the thing
I mean sure native voice chat in the game but
Im not sure it works between consoles yet
hybrid pendant
there the option to transcribe audio into text
heavy isle
what if there's one instance now and the PC superior race gets to keep everything HAHA
because all these Xbox console players are a new save, but I was able to use the Nexus to warp to the console player's base in my group using the teleporter
tepid iris
I guess they worked with Azure for the transcribing of audio and translating text
It's kinda ironic
for a game starting out as a PS exclusive ending up implementing Microsoft Azure APIs š
heavy isle
voice chat works cross platform
tepid iris
yeah, and?
heavy isle
just reporting as someone asked
tepid iris
ah I thought you replied that to me, that'd have been random š
heavy isle
oh totally lol
subtle gorge
Ok so how much of that alleged datamined stuff is actually new
tepid iris
1/4 ish?
but keep in mind, some of the Beyond features had been datamined for years too
heavy isle
alright so an xbox player built and uploaded a base (we were in a group at the time), and I completely restarted the game and loaded solo - his base is still here lol
plus I see him ambiently floating around - it has to be the same instance
not in my group at all
heavy isle
hahaa
yeah Xbox beta must be using Steam's instance
since they are all new saves, no conflict in discoveries to start
tepid iris
or maybe they're not using the steam instance, but something new shared between all instances
remember, they replaced the entire networking back-end
and ppl said they used Microsoft Azure PlayFab API
heavy isle
well that's some serious dickery because all of my bases are here and my discoveries
grizzled apex
Perhaps the servers for this build are currently separate?
heavy isle
im thinking so
tepid iris
if they did use this
it runs on Azure servers, which seamlessly connects PC, Xbox and PSN
heavy isle
they had to start new, I didn't so all I know is from a standard player's point of view, we are on the same "instance" disregarding the smoke and mirrors behind it
tepid iris
read through these
heavy isle
okay so given your understanding of the API, what's that tell us - is a reset "needed" or no? purely from a technical standpoint
tepid iris
if they seamlessly link ppl's systems together nope, but depends on how far HG wants to go I guess
heavy isle
what happens with like hub systems with tons of bases on the same planet I wonder then
across 3 platforms lol
grizzled apex
I belive HG's intentions for this merge is to encourage social spaces and make them bigger if their last development update is anything to go off of. I'd say they wouldn't reset because of this
tepid iris
yeah, RuneScape is a game that lives of 20 year old spaghetti code, and they managed to add in seamless instance sharding and grouping
so should be very possible in modern games using the external APIs and services
heck, even Sony will use Azure for the PlayStation variant of Stadia
heavy isle
interesting though if say folks have bases in same area on same planet (which is common for communities) on different platforms, how that works. Do I see mine and his and it's just a big congealed mess or
subtle gorge
reading the 4chan leak, it seems too good to be true
tepid iris
they could synchronize in your game so it stays when you go apart, then update both ends
when you're together again
they could vanish when you go apart
it depends on how HG integrates and decides what's best or in scope budget wise
heavy isle
im going to read into that API hardcore, thanks for the links
tepid iris
Our project managers usually say that anything is possible development wise, it just depends on the budget and time that's given for the scope
heavy isle
#scopecreep lol
spice gorge
@tepid iris Where did you find that?
tepid iris
what exactly?
outer cobalt
@spice gorge On April 7th, 2 dll files were added to the Public branch in the Binaries folder. These were PartyWin.dll and PartyWin7.dll respectively. Those files are part of PlayFab Party (Microsoft Azure). This should have given a hint of what was most likely to come and being worked on back then.
See: https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/4865629/
heavy isle
interesting to see how HG handles "base docking" hahaha - anyway testing today was pretty seamless minus some of the old bugs like everything showing discovered by me (in my perspective) and freighter ownership acting up (all reported btw to zendesk)
static urchin
Is it true that new biomes have been datamined?
Like apparently there's like 4 or 5 new biomes
It could all be fake
but hopefully it isn't
heavy isle
the problem at the core is lots of stuff is in the game files and has been for a while. So if something is seen as not familiar, doesn't mean it was just add or new
dusk sorrel
there are lots of unused biomes in the files, they aren't new though
static urchin
oh
heavy isle
granted it looked trash, it was an early prototype
its common though for any game really
heavy isle
HGs verbiage is also odd
dusk sorrel
Rayrod recreated the swamp biome in game, and it looks š
static urchin
ooh
heavy isle
makes finding stuff hard sometimes, like the sphere generator is called objectspawner for example in the files lol
dusk sorrel
heavy isle
what you can do if interested is take a look in the Modding Discord as Lo2k does a "file check" between current version and anything new that drops - does a block level check I believe and spits out anything that was added, and anything modified.
But also note that if HG changes a struct, they have to update all of the stuff that references said struct, even if it isn't in the game. So there might be false positives if you see something listed as updated
static urchin
alright
heavy isle
Same thing with shader changes, that material files with the shader flags all are updated too potentially. It's not an end all be all example of what's to come
mighty rampart
actually now that I think about it, there's really no need to do a single seed for all platforms (which could lead to overlap and server discoveries messing up), they could still keep it all separate per platform but on the nexus when for example a PC player joins an Xbox player's session, they get loaded in that universe
and variation update can still happen with base protection
heavy isle
Thats how i thought it was going to work but for now in experimental doesn't seem the case - could very well change
outer cobalt
@mighty rampart Then what happens if the loaded universe in multiplayer differs from your own and you go back to single player?
heavy isle
That universe vs this universe might not be the best way to describe i guess anymore? Shard? Who knows lol
right
outer cobalt
Because I can see how it is fine to connect with whoever you join and have that 'universe', but I also see what possible issues that could result in when you exit back to your own.
heavy isle
PlayFab is pretty clever
Yeah when I exited back to my own nothing changed, console players stuff he uploaded was there, and I saw him ambiently, was neat
mighty rampart
Then what happens if the loaded universe in multiplayer differs from your own and you go back to single player?
you could still stick around, I cant see how that breaks anything
outer cobalt
With one generation seed where all is identical regardless of platform, all would be fine. But pulling sync depending on multiple different generations (each platform) can in my opinion only work well as long as you are actually synced with whichever platform gen you are on, but causes differences when you switch back
heavy isle
If I have stuff in the same system as him and we join up is where it gets interesting
Like separately we had shit before, hell what if we had bases in same area lol
mighty rampart
why not go check the galactic hub
mighty rampart
ah
heavy isle
yeah