I've looked forever and can't find ani
#nms-spoilers
candid vortex
so you have partial coordinates?
waxen hamlet
They're "unstable"
So constantly changing
I've heard people say look for buildings but all the abandoned buildings are 20 minutes away and no where close to the changing coords
candid vortex
well the coords will change 'slightly" the closer you get to the target, but they shouldn't change so much that you have to go out of your way
waxen hamlet
At one point they changed and made me do a 180
candid vortex
did you try save/reload ?
I'd venture to guess that your point of interest may be bugged/burried somewhere
waxen hamlet
What is the point of interest usually?
candid vortex
which stage are you on? I think the usual one is an alien plaque
waxen hamlet
I'm on the one right after the neutral stem
candid vortex
yeah, maybe use one of those maps to find alien sites
waxen hamlet
Ok
candid vortex
what in the world is that?
uncut harness
What does it say it is?
uncut harness
Then that’s what it is.
candid vortex
duh, lol
uncut harness
Shoot it, and it may give you something.
candid vortex
it doesn't
neither does thia
oh..my
my bad.. it did give me something.. but I shot it with my beans and no damange.. had to use vents
and the game crashed.. wonderful
cursive kernel
Finding coords isn't fun but it isn't that hard lul
Now they should add coords in an exocraft
Especially in third person also since first person exocraft is wonky
That's one thing people actually do have a point with. We can see coords with our ship and on foot
But not in a car
uncut harness
Steering in first person needs fixing first. I hate that more.
last iron
How do I find upgrades for the alien ship, and I'm also wondering what the advantage of the ship is over a maxed out S class?
Gotcha, thank you!
dim coral
mine got damage going through a black hole yesterday... not sure if that's changed with the patch or not
uncut harness
So, hunter is a birb?
Or the spider?
spider is the lowly insect, huh?
or a fly?
What the fuck's an obscured companion...
Ok, nvm, saw the pinned post. Figured out most myself, so that's cool. 😄
uncut harness
Oh my shit I'm going to flip.
First grave's at -140, another's at +63, last is at fkn -170. There was no better way to design this shit?
Also that's it, Tassadar.
It'll be like that forever.
Probably.
ember grotto
ok thank you
uncut harness
@uncut harness Well what’d you expect? You’re hunting for graves on a full-scale PLANET! If it weren’t NMS, it’d be like finding the hay in a needle stack.
It's still all kinds of messed up. On both gameplay and moral point. 😄
My potential baby. Is it considered "good looking"?
I personally like it.
If you like it, then it’s good.
Clean. I like it.
So cute, all tucked up like that. 😄
You haven’t seen mine yet, have you?
uncut harness
Don't think I have, if it was addressed towards me.
It wasn’t, but I’ll share it again because it’s worth sharing.
Aye, fine looking too. 🙂
And I got it fully upgraded today after days of pulse jumping and over 25k Nanites.
Mine's kinda similar I guess. The "head" is different obviously, but we both got armor etc, so that's nice.
I call them arms and legs.
oh yeah, upgrading. that's just random as shit, right?
aka you gots to pulse drive and hope for eggs?
Not entirely.
pine sphinx
is there an easy way to get upgrades for the living ship equipment? warp drive is so short its almost dissapointing
uncut harness
Go to uncharted systems. They eliminate a lot of object spawns.
pine sphinx
uncharted like no faction no space station?
pine sphinx
so you eliminate traders
uncut harness
Exactly.
It helps to find systems with five or six planets so that there’s a long distance to pulse between.
I’ve picked up as many as three eggs from a single trip between two planets.
pine sphinx
i was told that even flying to a random direction gives encounters it doesnt have to be between planets
but i was flying for 5 minutes warp and found nothing
uncut harness
Didn't stop fucking pirates from spawning
Sometimes happens.
But if you get pirates, just shoot them down, and they’ll drop materials that you can refine into fuel.
pine sphinx
so except random technologies is there a chance to mature the spaceship and give it more space? 😛 it always comes with 22 slots
i have found better ones but its always the same space
uncut harness
Currently, there’s no way to augment the inventory.
But you don’t really need anymore than what it has.
apart from storage, obviously, ye.
Just use your exosuit.
pine sphinx
dont waste technologies in the storage sack 😛
uncut harness
Wha?
Or you can do that, but I chose to fully upgrade mine. I have other ships I can use for storage.
hoary robin
Actually there are a few systems that you can cheese the eggs in verblin.
fossil hearth
Another picture of my cutie :3
pine sphinx
the only thing i found so far and i liked it its that it doesnt get hurt from black holes
hoary robin
Few videos up on youtube right now, where it's possible to jet out of a freighter/station and pulse for 30 seconds out, hit an egg, then pulse for 30 seconds back, hit an egg, then reload the auto save then repeat.
uncut harness
Fucking amount of cunting pirates in a fucking empty sector is amazing.
pine sphinx
sooo if the ship gets blasted its perma dead?
uncut harness
Nothing broke it seems.
@pine sphinx Then that’s why nothing has broken yet. Once you get upgrades in storage, they’ll start breaking.
Dunno, seems fine.
Oh, so upgrades break
pine sphinx
@uncut harness oh 😦
uncut harness
Just like regular tech on other ships.
hoary robin
errr.... I'm trying to figure out how? I mean I get a lot of pirates in my system, but how are pirates killing you? o-o Even Elite/Deadly ones shouldn't be to hard if you're on them the entire time.
uncut harness
This has always been the case, and the living ships are no exception.
pine sphinx
@uncut harness with all the upgrades you have how many systems can you warp through max?
uncut harness
Every warp depleted my fuel at a rate of 2.5% per.
hoary robin
Haven't quite filled mine out yet but with x5 mediocre S-class warp drive organs, she's sitting at 1700 ly range and it takes almost no fuel.
uncut harness
Gotta stack them for even more.
hoary robin
Have been, rare to run across the x250ly ones 😄
uncut harness
Well this ship's quite pathetic, maybe that's why. 😄
hoary robin
Oh she gets better Stranger, she gets sooo much better.
uncut harness
Lemme have a look.
hoary robin
Just wait till you hit the infiniate eye beam point 😄
Loading in to grab a screeny Trade.
uncut harness
Hopefully, cause for now I dunno chief.
hoary robin
you also do close to 2k damage a tick, it's hilariously brutal.
uncut harness
Unrelated, why does no one call me Dusk? Do you really just walk up to a Gek and call them only by half their title?
uncut harness
I really need to change my title, then.
Someone nabbed the rest of the freighter.
Kinda freaky, looks a lot like mine.
There, my title is now shiny new.
hoary robin
@uncut harness This is the rest of her organ layout
fossil hearth
So happy Im not the only one to decide my ship is a her :3
uncut harness
I see a number of ways to optimize that better, but it’s up to you if you want it.
hoary robin
All for it, she ended up with a pretty wonderful organ chamber layout
Storage sacks could have been... better.
uncut harness
Ok, so the first thing I see is that you have four of the base modules in the organ chamber. Take one of those out, and start fitting the remaining tech into L-shaped pieces.
hoary robin
Attempting that on the singularity cortex, reduces range doing L's
uncut harness
Within those L-shaped pieces, put the highest number values in the middle.
uncut harness
Do the same with the upgrades in the storage sacs, and put the base module in the notch to form a square.
hoary robin
Range reduced further, to 1650.8
uncut harness
Hmm, that should’ve worked.
hoary robin
Range effectively reduced o-o have a feeling that they might not behave the same as the standard ship bonus groupings.
uncut harness
I’m going based on my own build.
hoary robin
Yeah, range notably reduced in L pattern with base organ at top in organ chamber, highest bonus in an L, additional organs in a square in storage sacks.
uncut harness
Ok, let’s try something else. Pair the higher set of numbers with the base module while keeping the same shapes.
So put the three highest values with the base module, then the three lowest values separately.
hoary robin
L shape, all highest values in with base modules reduces to 1654.5 with additional not so hot modules in square in organ sack.
Reduction still.
hoary robin
Swapping
uncut harness
I'm going to die of old age at this point.
devout cloud
how are you finding S class organ modules?
uncut harness
I upgraded mine.
20 minutes of flying about on pulse drive, and I achieved so far... Drumrolls... Jack shit. 3 dead freighters, one kills me, pirates, cause of course, and some sort of big brain that hurts when shot at
Guessing it'll take a while.
hoary robin
Swapping organ to Square changes it to 1670.9 with low-end modules in L
devout cloud
how do you upgrade living ship modules?
devout cloud
i thought the upgrade station was useless for living ship
uncut harness
Quite easily, ye.
devout cloud
wtf.... where is that option
uncut harness
On the modules themselves.
devout cloud
reallly??? im that blind?
hoary robin
Now... this is interesting. If I place the lowest of the "High value" engine mods in the square, then the absolute highest, then the second highest.... she comes out to 1671.1
uncut harness
Thought squares were they key to success.
hoary robin
Looking that way. The nodes behave a bit differently than standard ships from the looks of it.
uncut harness
Guess I need to have a look at my own upgrades.
hoary robin
Placement like this
Lowest Bonus, Base Organ
Highest Bonus, Medium Bonus
uncut harness
ąnyone knows why isn't discord overlay working with nms? on a side note.
ivory crown
you have to have the discord window open while in game to enable overlay
discord being shitty
hoary robin
Hmmm, need to play with the spewing vents and eyes now. The eyes are.... terrifyingly good after upgrading. Zero heat draw is insane.
devout cloud
there is a nms overlay? i alt tab all the time....
uncut harness
Of course it's not... This bitch can pop on launchers themselves, but borderless game? Naah fam, we ain't doing that here.
I somehow want to blame vulkan for that.
twilit ocean
Man I can just not find a cannon upgrade for my Living ship
Keep getting everything else
uncut harness
Might be good to switch systems, then.
twilit ocean
I’ve tried several
uncut harness
I had the same issue with the Neural Assembly.
hoary robin
Uggh, still missing x2 more neurals and they do not come often.
ivory crown
remember when we had to find S class upgrade first before we can start duping it
twilit ocean
@ivory crown Now we just find a upgrade
Then duplicate it
Cause who wants to upgrade another ship.
Mostly kidding
uncut harness
Definitely not me.
twilit ocean
I’ve done most upgrades just by finding them
I am gonna duplicate for the second round though
Also do the launch s class stack the enabled recharge?
uncut harness
I don’t think so.
ivory crown
they do
additively
I think
not sure
7% launch cost just makes that bit kinda pointless to think about
uncut harness
@hoary robin I figured out what I actually got to work.
twilit ocean
I also enjoy Spewing vents over Graft Eye because I just prefer blasters
Otherwise phasebeam class weapons win because of Hitscan
I think the eye should have been something like the Abyss Eyeballs beam. Or giant space eyeball beam.
Tractor beam damaging would of been way better.
Blasters should just get more variation, or a taser strike.
uncut harness
I'm going to flip
any reliable way to spawn eggs?
or fucking ANY encounters at all for that matter?
I should ask, are you flying your living ship?
In fucking fallout 2 I couldn't get to Klamath from the Den without running into fucking raiders every time, here I'm flying across the fkn galaxy and there's NOTHING.
And yes I am, and it's fucking BORING.
I emptied the heart twice now without running into fucking ANYTHING, not even shit that's not useful to me, there's FUCK ALL>
That’s odd.
dim coral
I've been in systems that don't really spawn any encounters and then I ended up in one last night that I almost fully outfitted my ship by cruising around
hoary robin
Nice, what's up on that @uncut harness
uncut harness
So I still had the three highest values in the square, BUT what I forgot was that in the square I put the LOWEST of the highest three in the center.
Then I put the three lowest values in the L-shape with the highest of those three in the center.
Base, #2
#1, #3
#5
#4, #6
hoary robin
Nice, so the same layout of mine but mirrored.
#2, Base
#1, #3
#5, #4 (Still missing one) - Glad to know mirroring doesn't change it. @uncut harness
uncut harness
I think it’d have an effect if #1 was connected to the base unit.
hoary robin
Seems to behave in the opposite, having the highest off the base is providing a slightly higher bonus here
At least here. Yeah, swapping them causes a reduction. Interesting.
uncut harness
On my end, it’s a .1 Ly difference.
hoary robin
It's pretty minimal. Interested to see what it's doing to the fuel consumption too since those are also additive.
uncut harness
They’re all the same.
hoary robin
Forgot that the S's all hardcapped at 100. This is why my butt shouldn't be up at 2 a.m. 😄
uncut harness
The Neural Assembly is the same way. Hardcapped at 30% reduction per module.
Six of them comes out to 7% fuel usage per launch.
dim coral
I'm still searching out a few upgrades and then I'll have to figure out a way to optimize
this is what I've got so far
hoary robin
That's still pretty darn fantastic, and what is the %recharge rate? I believe last I looked that was hardcapped too, and only mattered during daylight
uncut harness
Not sure about the daylight part, but the recharge rate feels the same as normal ships.
Not that it matters, though.
hoary robin
Considering it eats oxygen there, no, no it rarely ever does.
uncut harness
if you buy or get multiple void eggs
do the mission to raise them go through one by one
one egg fully raise next egg or
can having a stack f up being able to raise them
aside from one
also am I required to stay in the general region of wear I got the Neural stem
patent crag
once you finish the missions you dont need to do them again
you get more living ships for 10k nanites without having to do any missions
uncut harness
so basically we can only make use of one egg
and buy the rest
with nanites
@patent crag
patent crag
no you need an egg for every ship
if you did the missions and have an egg in your inventory youll get an event when you pulse drive or somn and itll tell you where another living ship is
uncut harness
do I have to fully raise the first first before I can get to the other eggs
uncut harness
ok
also how do I get a specific ship again is it that you go to buy an egg you see stats then either get it or don't and restart save or
patent crag
if you want to see stats of a new ship you need to pay 10k nanites
if it blows you can reset
uncut harness
so the neural stem
after I get to that I can move freely going solar to solar I dont need the initial planet anymore correct
patent crag
neural stem
is that the one you needed to find the portal and go to the egg planet for?
there are like 4 or 5 parts you need to wait like 24 hours to grow lol
uncut harness
so I have to stay in the general area till its grown
uncut harness
I did the planet part then got the stem for 24 hours
so I can go anywhere and it wont tell me to go back to this same solar system correct
patent crag
yes you can go anywhere
uncut harness
when you get a second living ship egg, you just fly around until the living ship that kept showing up during the starbirth quest shows up right?
quasi niche
This one is so cool but I don't have enough nanites...
obsidian zephyr
@mighty rampart ||I think I got past the part where you get to decide if you want to upload artemis' consciousness inside the universe simulation machine in the space anomaly/ now nexus||
icy citrus
Restart the game
mighty rampart
@obsidian zephyr you're done with about 60% of the story then, you have "patterns in time", "16/16" and "The purge" left to do
dawn ivy
I need the void egg system last step of starbith, please help its REALLY far from me
mighty rampart
examine your egg
it will say a bunch of stuff in capital letters
those are portal coordinates
check the pinned message to decode the text into glyphs and then use a portal to access that system
obsidian zephyr
if I want to do any of the other storylines do I have to do them on a new save?
mighty rampart
not necessarily, atlas path can be done simultaneously
Starbirth requires knowing at least the 12 glyphs out of 16
stark dune
What is this and how do I find one?
mighty rampart
you might or might not find this particular one
dawn ivy
So does any portal work with the starbith glyphs or does it have to be the one it sends you to?
dawn ivy
Can i join on someone that has one discovered? It would be most helpful :)
icy citrus
I'm not playing
patent crag
@dawn ivy i can get on and go to the planet rq for you
dawn ivy
@patent crag really? That would be awesome :),
patent crag
my steam is linked add me on there
jovial stag
@dawn ivy yes you can join someone who has found a portal... BUT ... ```diff
When you use a Portal to visit another area of the Galaxy you cannot;
- use the Galaxy map
- warp to another system
- use a teleporter
- build a base
- call in your freighter
- the station you visit in the system will not appear in your station teleport list
- asking someone to charge a portal for you will not work, you must charge it yourself
- asking someone to use a portal to visit a specific system so you can join them there, will also not work you'll be placed in the system the portal user left from
-
however, the system you visit will be in your discoveries list so you can set a waypoint to the system and jump there the old fashioned way... 1 warp/black hole at a time
-
To return to the system you used the portal in simply return through the portal, there should be an icon on the screen giving you the location of the portal.
you have all glyphs?
dawn ivy
I just have to decipher them it wont be hard
patent crag
ok ill be at a portal then
jovial stag
dawn ivy
@jovial stag so how do i get back when i someone elses portal?
jovial stag
if you join Dan in teh system where the portal he's found is that's fine you can see the portal and him its just when he charges it and uses it you won't see anything... you have to charge it so you'll need all the materials to do that and at least 12 of the 16 glyphs in order to enter the above address
once you go through it do what you have to and then return through it...
dawn ivy
Oh so you just go back through then i see
dawn ivy
@patent crag mind if ask for your friend code? You can pm me if youd like
dawn ivy
Ok sent, ill start my game back up
patent crag
accepted
uncut harness
thoughts on this ship?
icy citrus
Gross in a great way
uncut harness
yeh im debating if i should take it or not
i rly like ít but at the same time i feel like there are better colour combos
uncut harness
im so happy i did not take it
i found this right thereafter
i think i will take this one
icy citrus
Nice!
uncut harness
it looks so much better than my ship from yesterday lol
now then, time to find out how upgrading n stuff works
fathom notch
can you scrap living ships
violet narwhal
No
heady bramble
The fastest way I can get to the centre of the galaxy for the main mission ?
violet narwhal
Just keep warping towards the centre... ||You don't actually have to get there, it'll stop before you get anywhere near it.||
heady bramble
Alright and what do you mean “it’ll stop me”
violet narwhal
I said it'll stop, not it'll stop you. You'll see.
heady bramble
Alright, thanks Moo, I’ll let you know how it goes
real sapphire
whew, destroyed a ||Hazard Containment Field|| gave me nearly 1.5K M. Ferrite
heady bramble
I’m starting to collect these atlas glyth things every time I warp, , I’m guessing I’m getting close
cloud hearth
The time skip trick for Starbirth doesn't work anymore?
crisp flint
I would imagine they patched it but I don’t know
You could just be doing it wrong
Granted I never skipped the time
vague badge
@fossil hearth lol there's a mod for it?
I'll do the time skip for anybody, 5 bucks
No mods needed 😏
fossil hearth
This way you dont have to futz with offline, or changing anything
Just play xD
no clock messing about, no playing offline, just playing the game as nature intended \o/
sly bobcat
Loving these living ships. Like seeing the color schemes. So far I'd have to say I like the snub cockpit or the one with 2 small mandible things like in a recent posts green ship. Snub nose with the long wide fins looks tight. Haven't seen any crazy wild colors. I think black and gold and black and red are the two combos that look pretty tight so far. Seen some chromatic forest green on yesterday that was tight. Been geekin these things hard lol
uncut harness
@gloomy isle - all quotes from game lore. I would credit who ripped the text but they’ve deleted their account.
First quote could relate to this exact mystery civilization, but likely refers to the universe where Nada comes from, where Sentinels eliminated every being leaving a single Korvax (Nada) and a single Traveller. Nada escaped into the universe they are now, but perhaps this ancient civilization existed in that universe, and began the universe’s death
If the civilization is an incarnation of humanity, this text also relates:
“We have been ordered to shoot down any Vy'keen vessels on - kzzkzt -
They have been deemed enemies of the Atlas, enemies of the Council, enemies of all humanity...”
foggy jacinth
How the hell does someone already have a base on the Weekend Event planet?
uncut harness
HG alt? Lol
outer cobalt
Or the location can be found in the source files?
foggy jacinth
Discoveries says it was discovered today, but the normal person who gets here first.
🤷♀️
Substance needed for the Weekend Community Event: ||40 anomalous Jam||
outer cobalt
@uncut harness That's Lore from the Ring Structures, right?
foggy jacinth
Glyphs for Weekend event planet:
outer cobalt
I used to datamine a lot of the lore. Actually curious if a lot of new lore has been added. Perhaps I should have another look?
uncut harness
I forgot one:
Responsible for what, I wonder? I wonder if it was going to state the civilization, or Nada’s universe, or both
outer cobalt
Ah, Traveller grave lore, if I recall correctly. All mostly came with Atlas Rises, NMS_UPDATE_3 language files. Still my fav update for that reason
uncut harness
Yep. 1.3 was essentially, beyond anything else, “the story update.” It’s given context to the universe that has been used since, even if some existed pre-1.3
outer cobalt
I only got NMS just short of Atlas Rises and together with the ARG it got me hooked for sure
supple relic
The Sentinels are almost guaranteed to descend like locusts on any population center with more than a few hundred beings. The only order and structure they tolerate is their own idea of order.
broken swan
that ARG was great, I really hope there's another one to flesh out more lore
supple relic
The Nexus is outside their scope of awareness, so it's safe for now
heavy dagger
Nada is like "shhhh, i don't want to remember" because nada is ATLAS
fossil hearth
Nada is ATLAS... wot mate?
covert lance
Come again
supple relic
I'd buy that Nada is at least partly the remnant of the Atlas in the universe from which he came; not in personality but its partial memories, and a record of what happened.
covert lance
Man how do you people manage to string together the story like this
I just go hurr durr planet people quicksilver
NICE SHIP
several people are typing
supple relic
No other species but a Korvax could retain enough information from the Atlas. Even just the bare minimum would be a huge amount of data.
uncut harness
The sentinels destroyed every being in nada’s home universe, so how does it fit with that? In the beginning, the sentinels protocol worked under the atlas, but fell free. At that time, it was still under atlas jurisdiction because the ring lore says the deletion of the universe was purposeful
Someone had a similar theory during the arg and it was shaky then but nobody debunked it
Mostly because ring lore didn’t exist but
supple relic
We won't know unless they provide more info but it seems pretty clear Nada has more information than he's shared. Probably because it's too depressing.
Or worse, the information itself could trigger the events that destroyed his home universe in THIS universe. That would be quite a burden.
outer cobalt
The world of glass, where everything is catalogued, stored and accumulated.
twilit ocean
Im more interested in these capsules with civilizations in them.
Saying it’s got around 400,000 survivors
uncut harness
The closest thing to what you’ve said is how the korvax are based on the earlier versions of the atlas. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just don’t think it’s true personally
gusty stream
400,000 survivors from...what?
supple relic
With NMS lore you can't usually go wrong considering the worst-case scenario 🙂
uncut harness
Yeah
twilit ocean
Universal extinction via Sentinels?
gusty stream
The destruction of Nada/Polo's universe?
twilit ocean
I like to think the main story is the Sentinel’s essentially went temporarily rogue.
By the time everything was under control again it was too late and war continued.
The then under control sentinels murdered the race who started it.
gusty stream
Wait so sentinels attack worlds where civilizations form...essentially?
uncut harness
Yes
twilit ocean
Yeah that’s why cities technically can’t exist on the surface at least.
gusty stream
Hubs better watch tf out
uncut harness
Lol yeah
twilit ocean
It’s also why I think underwater abandoned cities would be a awesome update.
supple relic
I think it's less likely they went rogue than that they were given disastrously flawed instructions in the first place.
gusty stream
Because Atlas was going insane or some shit?
twilit ocean
Double planetary depth, have taller mountains deeper caves and have a actual abyss ocean.
uncut harness
Probably its death like how everything else is stemming from
gusty stream
Didn't telamon say something among those lines?
supple relic
They did their job too well and couldn't be corrected
twilit ocean
I’d like a dark zone on a planet ocean.
uncut harness
But the atlas has shown rampancy/difference to the creator’s intention before, so also that
twilit ocean
Then you just suddenly find a abyssal city
Residents Killed by some extreme monstrosity
Space worm
Which I am still hoping they add eventually
gusty stream
Oh yeah that
fossil hearth
What if they turn into space butterflies? o,O
twilit ocean
Then run cause they’ll eat us
fossil hearth
Or space moths
twilit ocean
Anyway point was I feel that we’ve gotten really close to what they wanted the game to be like.
We just need some better planetary generation and Fauna AI
fossil hearth
Space moths... fly into sun
twilit ocean
and true giant Fauna or boss monster/dungeon esk events.
uncut harness
Thanks to sohail for dumping this log earlier in the chat. May interest you @supple relic
Context: Korvax Prime
uncut harness
Yep
The first dashed lines are likely ATLAS, so “AI (Korvax) partially modeled after earlier forms of ATLAS.”
twilit ocean
Yeah it’s essentially dying
uncut harness
The way the story ends with the Korvax being victorious likely means the atlas is becoming very self centered and viewing itself in higher regard as enough to triumph biological beings, but that’s an interpretation
twilit ocean
It tells of it’s death as you play story.
The technology itself is faltering most likely from someone abandoning Atlas, we the Travelers are clones of that someone if I remember properly.
gusty stream
Imagine if the community missions are building up to a rampant sentinel/atlas event.
twilit ocean
The Atlas is attempting to have us repair it from the inside, as well as fixing it’s own state.
gusty stream
A black hole?
twilit ocean
Wait it is?
uncut harness
Yep. Hang tight
twilit ocean
Where’d you find that, I haven’t seen that part of lore yet.
gusty stream
bbl
uncut harness
Remembrance lore. “It witnesses its own self, the black hole ripping apart its world, its core systems almost destroyed."
twilit ocean
OH
I can’t believe I missed that
Holy crap
I still have the Star seed too
and Remembrance
So yeah basically that furthers the point of Atlas is trying to cultivate us to be able to fix the problem it’s having.
uncut harness
It also refers to it as a gravitational anomaly elsewhere
This is where the idea of our humanity making atlas falters
twilit ocean
How cool would it be if they added a story update for us to save Atlas and that’s when all the big stuff starts showing up.
uncut harness
Because we haven’t been hit with a black hole and yet the travelers exist in the game
And the atlas is dying, and we haven’t left the planet
twilit ocean
Wait what do you mean
If the black hole was the outside of it, the entire thing would cease to exist in the first place.
Or rupture and expand over the previous universe.
Depending on how the tech works.
uncut harness
People think our reality is where the atlas is made, but the ARG canonizes the current state of the simulation being with travelers and multiplayer, which is a stark difference to how the game says the world the atlas is made has its species leave and then get scanned to make travelers before an oncoming black hole. No black hole was coming to us in WT season 2 and the creator already left with their species since we have multiplayer in the game, so they must exist in a simulation above our own, and our simulation is not where the atlas is made but continues in its never ending cascade
twilit ocean
I was already aware that the Atlas isn’t in our system.
But rather
I was referring to wouldn’t the black hole be between the fold of worlds.
Not in either.
It doesn’t necessarily disprove humanity making it, that black hole could of been forming between both.
the Atlas could of been abandoned because it’s owners were fleeing the black hole.
uncut harness
But we haven’t been hit with a black hole, so it disproves our humanity making it (plus the arg and game both reference how we aren’t any more real than the game)
I’m saying we haven’t been hit because the arg throws us into the canon as we are btw
Players who play the simulation and already see multiplayer and evidence of the atlas dying
So how are we seeing it dying if its true form is in our world and we haven’t canonically left earth or seen a black hole before the end of Waking Titan season 1 or 2, events that happen before multiplayer is made - that’s where I assume it’s because we’re not where the atlas is made/remembrance lore is set
supple relic
@uncut harness Have you ever read "Midnight at the Well of Souls"? The Well World is similar to what I imagine the original Atlas could have been like.
uncut harness
I haven’t but it sounds interesting. What is it? A novel of some sort?
supple relic
Yeah the Well World novels by Jack L. Chalker. Classic sci fi, I see heavy influences from it in NMS
There are even planets in NMS that ||literally resemble the Well World||
uncut harness
Something intriguing is how HG being a games developer and using Loop16’s mercury in WT to form NMS might explain a lot about the game: for instance, this quote. Story-wise, HG probably put things into the simulation so the simulated reality was more of a game, and this seems very close to that
And there’s this one ring lore quote that keeps making me think of it, and I don’t know why
outer cobalt
What quote is that?
The one you posted earlier?
A lot of the Ring lore makes me thing of the pre-launch development stage as if written by a dev
Testing scenarios and analysis to check proc gen results
Let's call them Telamon ... and make it a character to add (development) lore to
uncut harness
No, this one (thanks to gmr who ripped the quote)
twilit ocean
@uncut harness When you mentioned it’s not the original atlas I knew that
I meant that it’s sending us on the inside to fix the problem
That’s why we’re so far in the simulation compared to where we could of been.
uncut harness
Oh I’ve got you know
twilit ocean
Yeah
uncut harness
Anyway, quote wise: If it’s Apollo, Null and Artemis, or even Nada and Polo, that are these individuals interacting with the host, they might be characters created specifically by the game storyline’s HG and put into the simulation (Mercury) to serve a purpose: to convey the storyline. This quote would be saying, “The tales of these characters are impossible to exist, yet they are saying they do.”
twilit ocean
And while we’re in the universe meant for entertainment, maybe the Atlas perceives time travel as impossible but is using it as a last resort.
uncut harness
Things around a white hole would orbit endlessly but never enter, like us never actually meeting the other travelers of the storyline because they don’t truly exist (according to this theory). They don’t exist like the other travelers actually spewing from the fall of the multiversal hierarchy because they’ve been put in to convey the fall of the multiverse as a storyline point, by hello games, as opposed to actually living it and being genuine travelers contacting other universes
twilit ocean
So our universe starts bugging the heck out.
Leading to the horrors.
Which I assume atlas is trying to contain while we’re cultivated in our own form of black box this point. Until we know the problem and solve it.
tall hornet
I love this.
supple relic
I'd say a complicating factor is that the repair programs in the system (us) are not supposed to be aware that they are in a simulation, since that could cause more disruptions. And yet in order to do our jobs, we have to have the ability to question the nature of our reality. It's a perilous situation when Atlas' only hopes for a fix can also make the problem even worse.
gusty stream
@cloud epoch
gusty stream
Probably save editor
I believe OP was on PC [the user with the backpack wasn't OP btw]
cloud epoch
thx nova, finally found it like 100 posts down
supple relic
I don't think the living ships want to be "free". I think they want to be bonded to a pilot, like the Leviathans in Farscape (although not physically bonded like those Pilots).
Even though they're definitely sapient, they don't appear to have any individual will or drive... they need the pilot to provide that.
gaunt niche
icy citrus
Yeah, what does the pop up say
gaunt niche
It says the Egg has echo-located a source of Hexite..?
So I just follow the marker and it holds my hand through the whole thing, I assume.
twilit ocean
@supple relic I’d say you pretty much summed up what I wanted to say really well.
The only hope of the Atlas saving itself is a repair program that can make it worse.
uncut harness
@supple relic I love that idea. And after having watched Avatar last night, it kinda reminds me of the banshee, where it bonds with its hunter upon making a neural connection.
twilit ocean
So it copy pasted us 7 billion times and started hoping for the best
^ That is pretty good example too.
Though I wish our ships were a little more alive in the game.
uncut harness
Same. Living ships especially don’t feel as alive as they should be.
twilit ocean
I think since we have them they should be able to store a creature somewhere too.
I still kinda want a pet that follows me and helps with stuff.
The procedurally generated animals would be fun to perma tame.
uncut harness
Random interactions would satisfy that, though. Maybe even if it flew around a planet on it’s own while I’m on foot.
twilit ocean
That’s something I kinda would like
Like it goes out to search the system for stuff as well.
uncut harness
And then when we’re ready to leave, we just call them back.
Elite Dangerous already has a mechanic sort of like that, but it’d be nice if NMS had it too.
Yet we already know that HG won’t do things that are obviously easy for them.
twilit ocean
“Yet we already know that HG won’t do things that are obviously easy for them.”
@uncut harness You realize this game alone is a impressive feat in mechanical procedural generation alone? Elite dangerous isn’t dealing with nearly as complicated a engine.
uncut harness
But in all honesty, I feel really bad for just leaving my living ship in one spot while I go off to search the planet for things. I do not have this issue with my mechanical ships, though.
twilit ocean
Like if you’re gonna ask for things at least understand that if HG does try to add it for us it’s a lot of work.
uncut harness
Right, yet they added in a feature that I personally requested the moment character customization was a thing.
twilit ocean
Like adding a moving living ship doing it’s own thing means the
A) Game has to run that function in the background and potentially load the area around it.
B) Add a function for a starship that isn’t there for other starships at the moment. On top of the other things it might do with that function.
Also what did you personally request.
@uncut harness
uncut harness
The ability to save custom character designs.
gaunt niche
20 hours of waiting for the neural stem to mature.. Damn
jovial stag
you have to exchange a ship if you want the living one
so make sure you're in the ship you wish to exchange
uncut harness
so once it is grown it gives an option for exchange
at what stage
should I get the ship out
jovial stag
at the end of the quest
uncut harness
when is the end
jovial stag
when you get the ship and put the bits you've grown on to it
jovial stag
you'll know when you get there and you will have the chance to summon another ship if you don't want to swap the one you're in
uncut harness
wait so I get the ship and once it is complete with all bits
then I have to exchange
ok
jovial stag
do you have the 16 glyphs?
uncut harness
yes
jovial stag
well after you use those when you return that's when you get the ship
rugged yew
hey guys
how did you skip the timegate on Starbirth?
just changing the system is not enough right?
uncut harness
Gotta turn off the internet as well.
supple relic
Go into offline mode in Steam 🙂
rugged yew
offline mode in steam is enough? Great 😄
ivory crown
you don't have to go offline mode on your steam
just disconnect from internet and launch
candid vortex
too late
rugged yew
can't disconnect frmo the internet 😮
ivory crown
pull the plug
rugged yew
😮 😮 😮
candid vortex
is it wireless?
ivory crown
I mean, like, you have full and complete control over your PC
that's the whole point of a PC
rugged yew
yeah, but I need my Netflix
candid vortex
🤦♂️
rugged yew
is there a different way to play NMS?
candid vortex
with your eyes closed
candid vortex
dude.. you go offline, change your time ahead, whatever time is left on your timer, start your game.. the game says "oh.. here's your stuff" .. then quit your game, reconnect to the internet and restart our game.. boom
after saving of course
candid vortex
it's like 2 minutes
candid vortex
well.. there you have it.. your choice 😆
broken swan
So, is Balaron the Gek homeworld and where is it? Was it destroyed?
supple relic
Yes, unknown, and kind of 🙂
broken swan
at least, I can create my own quest to find Balaron now.
uncut harness
Good luck lol
I think they purposely placed the homeworld in 'the fade' to avoid coding them
supple relic
Balaron as a planet supposedly still exists, but it is no longer habitable. It's been reduced to a waterless desert.
broken swan
hmm, interesting. maybe that's where the sand worms live. haha
cursive kernel
@karmic skiff if there are 2 travellers only interact with one
Other one leads to same grave
karmic skiff
ok
So I guess I wasn't supposed to shoot that Dysons Lense
Now I have all the space cops after me
ebon magnet
So far all of the living ship planets have been ocean planets
Just the most annoying to try and find stuff on
karmic skiff
Last one I was on was this beautiful, grassy, capped planet with gravatino balls just laying around
cursive kernel
Pulsing around in space for 2 eggs then going to station is boring
Who would have thought
prime spade
Lol space cops are as relentless as police in gta
Not as bad as the Imperial Legion in TES: Oblivion though
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/127/843/ngbbs47d0545de1330.jpg
cursive kernel
STOP YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE LAW
karmic skiff
STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM
karmic skiff
You'll never take me alive! I'M AN AMERICAN! falls over fence
uncut harness
man it is messed up the more you think about it, creating an organic ship out of the souls of lost travellers
prime spade
3 fragmented 'souls' if they can really be called that. Damaged itterations stuck in a loop
cursive kernel
Again it is a simulation but it's still dark
uncut harness
true
yeah that and the fact that ||the universe and its creator is gonna end at indertiminate time|| is spooky
also yaaaaay i finally finished the starbirth quest
the grave part is such a pain in the ass
whats funny is
the last grave didn't appear on the visor at all, i just bumped into it
after looking for it for hours
yeah first one I was lucky with because there were a bunch of people already there and marked it
2nd one nobody was there, had to find my own but i still was able to find a marker for it
3rd no marker, and i had the coord glitch where i had to reset multiplayer
after the multiplayer reset i was able to get an actual range down tho
i honestly just wish they showed them like buildings
the graves, that is
yea
the earlier parts were easy because abandoned buildings are so much easier to find
yeah i honestly didn't even mind the waiting a day for each part thing, it makes it longer sure but i prefer it over the grave hunting
yeah once the final grave marking part gets polished i think it will be an overall great quest
the lore and stuff was neat though tbh i kinda glossed over it
favorite part was the space jellyfish probably
what i liked about it
was that its so isolated and unique that it feels more alien than the aliens, if that makes sense
okay bai
light dirge
Hey im at the last mission of the living ship quest line (starbirth). My question is how long do I keep jumping from star to star
uncut harness
is it the part where you need to go to a planet with "unconvential travel" @light dirge ?
candid vortex
@light dirge the last mission involves a portal, which you need to have 16 glyhs for
prime spade
I saw that and it was soooo awesome!! The coolest thing I’ve seen in that game. Need more creatures like that
I accidentally shot it <.<
I pressed the wrong trigger to disengage the pulse drive in VR and shot a round off :p - didn't kill it though
uncut harness
yeah i booped it with my ship
candid vortex
those "names" are glyphs for the portal.. do you have all of the glyphs yet?
uncut harness
have you done the main artemis quest?
ivory crown
check pins
light dirge
The 16 glyphs you get at the main quest line? The ones that pop up every now and then? If its that which you are referring to then yes
vague badge
Check the pinned messages, one of them translate the gylphs
uncut harness
yeah one of them has a guide for that
candid vortex
the ones you get from the graves by talking to anomilies
uncut harness
if you did the main quest glyphs than you should be fine
candid vortex
I find it understandably disturbing that the living ship quest would require a new player to have done the main artemis quest, or warp literally 100,000's of ly's
uncut harness
yeah its so much easier to just get the glyphs from the main quest
candid vortex
it's been a while, but I don't remember the artemis quest being timelocked much (if at all), so that can be done in an hour or so
uncut harness
yeah i don't think its timelocked
the hardest parts really is just getting resources to craft stuff and finding stuff
karmic skiff
Yeah, the artemis quest is taking me a lot more than an hour. If you don't have a cadmium drive, you're blocked at one part until you get one, go to a red system, and gather resources
uncut harness
another thing is that you really need to near-complete the atlas quest
to see black holes for one part, unless you want to talk to polo over and over and over and over
vague badge
Cadmium, emeril, and indium are you best friends for the main quests
uncut harness
mmhmm
vague badge
Your*
uncut harness
yeah its the one resource that is genuinely painful if you don't have it on you for them
What happens when you reject a living ship
vague badge
@uncut harness it cries
vague badge
Its the same as rejecting any other ship
I'm not sure if you'll get your egg back or not
uncut harness
Apparently it does
vague badge
Neat
uncut harness
And I just wasted so much time, because I never re rolled and this is my third egg
vague badge
Ouch
gaunt niche
So I followed the coordinates the egg gave me, but I can't find anything when looking through my visor.
candid vortex
@gaunt niche you should see an alien plaque
gaunt niche
Trying to find it, I can't get the precise coordinates to show up, and nothing shows up in my visor.
candid vortex
yeah you need to be at the precise coords..
gaunt niche
That's the problem. It won't give me them
candid vortex
screenshot ?
candid vortex
you need to be in your ship, those coords can be a long way away on foot
gaunt niche
And I'm only seeing empty, open field
candid vortex
.??? is like 1000u in all 4 directions
candid vortex
will the egg refine coords on foot?
cursive kernel
Depends @ivory crown
ivory crown
no
you just use visor
look around
if you still can't find it, use exocraft scan
if that doesn't find it, it's bugged
uncut harness
yay
i got one too, i love it
nice color scheme
yeah i was unsure of it at first
but its grown on me
what's with ships in this game and matching the players' color? seems like a happy coincidence that has happened a lot
for living ships I mean
actually yeah now that I think about it
my character uses black and brown
HMMMMMMMM
vague badge
I had a pink beauty before the cursed hotfix ruined it
uncut harness
yeah, and mine uses white and black, which matches the ship (and the ship glows an almost yellow shade but not quite)
vague badge
But I like the red/silver I have
vague badge
My ship doesn't look like me
uncut harness
yeah that glow is really neat
im not sure if i like mine tbh
i like the glow, but the main colors aren't my favorite
vague badge
I never seen a bottom like that
uncut harness
yeah its interesting
vague badge
Thankfully that glow is a common color
uncut harness
here it is when i found it
vague badge
I like the blue
uncut harness
yeah i think it has a slight blue to the main color
gaunt niche
Found it
vague badge
This would still be my ship if she kept her pink, but she turned into a nasty yellow
uncut harness
damn
vague badge
uncut harness
shame too, that looks neat
vague badge
🤮😫😭
uncut harness
was it a glitched color?
vague badge
Nah, I saw someone get a ship just like it
uncut harness
huh
vague badge
I left the anomaly to avoid the pain
uncut harness
:(
i remember when i first saw them ingame, at the anomaly and i was like "okay yeah i need one of these"
vague badge
But I actually love that red silver one I have, it's smaller, and cuter
uncut harness
yea its neat
vague badge
Same haha, reddit got my hyped for them
vague badge
Nope, just a random encounter
vague badge
As long as you have the egg
vague badge
If it's in your inventory, a living ship will contact you, and ask if you want to hatch it, and it just give the coordinates
vague badge
You can grind by saving before this encounter
uncut harness
yeah
i was actually lucky, i got my first void egg from some random person at the anomaly lol
vague badge
I wish they would add the new backpack to consoles already
candid vortex
was it in pc release?
vague badge
Easter bunny came early this year
uncut harness
is it out already?
candid vortex
I thought it was yet to be revealed in QS vendor
vague badge
I think it's either in pc live, or experimental
uncut harness
im guessing experi
vague badge
I saw a video showing off earlier
uncut harness
yeah i think that was still in dev
if its the same vid i saw
like its missing some animations and all that
it does look nice though, i've wanted a new backpack design
vague badge
uncut harness
yeah i like it
uncut harness
one thing i really appreciate about the living ships
its a small touch but i really like it
is how you "suggest" everything to the ships
according to the info text
steel dove
i saw that backpack today on youtube i want that one xD
uncut harness
same
steel dove
and then they go and give us placeable rocks and trees
vague badge
Do you think they feel squishy
ivory crown
these are living beings
they can be whatever you want
you just ask them kindly to be soft
you got a softest chair
uncut harness
lol
candid vortex
liquid rainbows
vague badge
I can't wait until they release rainbow trails
uncut harness
who knew an answer to interstellar travel is giving an alien spaceship a laxative
vague badge
Since the heart is the pulse drive, I wonder if we're running up their heartbeat
gaunt niche
What the fuck is this part of the quest? "Pink and blue"?? What kind of planet is that?
gaunt niche
So, went back in the chat, it sounds like it's a SINGLE specific planet in the Euclid system...
gaunt niche
Might just be easier for me to join in on someone who has access to the system because I have yet to obtain glyphs.
Because right now I'm just warping out as far as I can over and over.
cursive kernel
@gaunt niche how far are you in the Artemis line
Near the end of that should give portal glyphs
cursive kernel
Dreams is for submarine
gaunt niche
I'm basically at the beginning, I know
cursive kernel
And you have to be on like thing 8
gaunt niche
As I said, I have been ignoring the main quest.
I am aware of how inconvenient this is.
So if I could get an assist to the appropriate planet, that would be great.
twilit ocean
I don’t think you can @gaunt niche
I remember someone mentioning you can’t go through the portal with someone I think.
But if you do need to find glyphs someone can most likely mark the traveler graves to get you them instead.
gaunt niche
But I can join someone's game after they've gone through.
twilit ocean
No you can’t
gaunt niche
You can't?
twilit ocean
You’ll be on the other side of the portal
Like you can join
But you won’t be on their side
gaunt niche
Well damn
twilit ocean
Unless they allowed that in a recent update, last time I tried that’s what happened for my sister and I.
fallow sedge
Does anyone have a gold farm they wouldnt mind sharing for the living ship? I need more gold for the pulse drive lol
twilit ocean
I tried to use it as a way to plant a base down and use portals to get to Galaxy 250.
gaunt niche
Ah, I see.
devout cloud
i have a couple gold farms i never goto because i buy all my resources now
gaunt niche
So is there a fast track to getting glyphs?
twilit ocean
Yeah it’s unfortunate but if you need to find the glyphs there are 2 ways.
Technically 3 but the third involves one of the other 2.
devout cloud
@fallow sedge
twilit ocean
The first is finding travelers in space stations and paying them nanites to locate a grave.
fallow sedge
@devout cloud I dont have units...so it would be greatly appreciated.
twilit ocean
You might need to progress story a small bit for that part.
fallow sedge
Just found a 2nd ship and dont have 10000 nanites D:
gaunt niche
I've been able to do that in the past
twilit ocean
The second is like everyone else mentioned and going all the way through story where you’re given the glyphs.
The third is if you can’t find travelers in space stations you join someone else to have them help you locate glyphs.
devout cloud
@fallow sedge you are on PC right?
fallow sedge
I am
twilit ocean
@gaunt niche The Living Ship quest is meant to be a Veteran quest of Sorts I think.
fallow sedge
@devout cloud Sure am!
twilit ocean
The Living Ships are pretty dang powerful after all.
dusty latch
so i got a living ship, went through a black hole, nothing broke... are these immune to black hole damage?
prime spade
Sort've. Stuff in the organ sac cannot be damaged, but components in the storage section CAN. (Broken organic ship components tend to need stuff like living slime, venom sacs, fungal mould etc to fix)
dusty latch
cool, i was fortunate to get an S class living ship with nearly full storage on both sides
so i can place much more in the organ part, which is i think even more than my A class fully upgraded normal ship
dangit met another atlas entity i want more upgrades
prime spade
Living ships always have same number of storage and organ slots (22/21 I think?), and are always S class, the only random element is in their stats, which I think are in the 25-50%, 10-25%, and 40-60% range for damage/shields/warp respectively roughly.
fervent eagle
The weekend mission hasn't come out yet, has it?
peak prairie
Now that I think about it, has anyone made a nice convenient cluster of systems with marked graves?
Seems like a good resource
dusty latch
wish mine had better hyperdrive but having high everything else and a lot of storage is nice
atm its only 160 light years, my other ship, A class has 818 light year jumps
wicked chasm
Argh. Well, I guess I can't progress on The Living Ship just yet.
I haven't finished the Artemis quest line, so I don't have the Glyph stones to go to the weird place my Egg wants.
uncut harness
I went through the first 24 hours and now having trouble finding the right planet
candid vortex
what does the egg say @uncut harness ?
fossil hearth
I dont understand the point of the time gating for the quest
covert lance
There is none
winged scroll
Well imagine dropping a big update. People coming back grinding the living ships out in 4 hours flying around for 2 then going mia again. Not seeing how much work was put in to space etc
Time gating is good because when the timer shows up you are still pumped and most people don't quit they fuck around a bit. Seeing new sheit not just cherry picking living ships.
mighty rampart
guess that didnt work out as they thought it would huh
probably goes to show they shouldn't do this again
I was already somewhat following the timegates anyway, because finding the coordinates took time and effort and each session got me tired
but that shouldn't mean they decide on when I should stop for the day unless there's a more meaningful way of time gating rather than "stop my child"
even before living ships they already got more players online on average, ever since they started weekly missions so its not like everybody stops
uncut harness
I only timeskipped because I was doing each mission portion too quickly, and I guess I was just a little impatient at getting the ship because I had sold my shuttle. I’m not a big fan of things being out of place, so I wanted to fill that hole as quick as possible.
And also, I’ve logged over 1,500 hours on a single save, so I’ve seen enough things to keep me busy anyways.
crisp flint
I haven’t time skipped but the timer is stupid
Should have been more content to the quest instead of four scavenger hunts I had to wait 24 hours to do
devout cloud
finally found that living ship planet manually..... if i knew that nomansky.com had that map i would have found it faster
mighty rampart
those are portal coordinates
mighty rampart
first try it yourself, if you're having trouble then check pinned message that has hints
devout cloud
oops i meant hexagon
granite cove
nice job my dude
dire pawn
same exact process as before
pulse around a system until you encounter the alien ship, go to the system it sends you to, then the planet the egg wants
uncut harness
I went to the system
idk which planet
found it
also you buy eggs with quicksilver only once right
then after it cost nanites
correct
icy citrus
No
Eggs cost quicksilver still - but the biogenesis process is replaced by paying 10k nanites to take a ship
uncut harness
ok
fast meteor
when do I get the glyphs in the main story?
uncut harness
it is funny how I saw an update say we made it so it doesnt exceed 24 hours to mature
then here I am each one of them being over 24 hours
fossil hearth
@uncut harness there's a mod for that, just saying ;p
uncut harness
not on xbox
fast meteor
okay not shure when that is
fossil hearth
Oohf, yeah :<
icy citrus
What mission are you on