we should get more tech and slots in time
#nms-spoilers
ivory crown
hot wigeon
hopefully, the mission is so time consuming
gaunt kettle
Just got sent 1.264 million light years away
ivory crown
warp gates?
gaunt kettle
Yep
scenic igloo
I definitely think Living ships are amazing for exploring.
They kind of added damage seemingly to give it something unique from Explorers, if that's even possible.
You know, aside from all the gimmicks, special flair and zing.
But while they aren't the bestest ship ever, what ship is?
prime spade
What's the launch system like on living ships? - what is it powered by, and what's it's relative cost per launch?
scenic igloo
The Living Ships use their Heart as their Launch System, which is fed by Silver and Gold.
hot wigeon
and 100-150 gold,i’m not sure
prime spade
is there an equivalent module to the recharger on conventional ships?
hot wigeon
wait are you talking about launch or pulse?
prime spade
(I love explorers typically because of their vastly reduced launch cost, means you can hop around a planet's surface with little to no fuel requirements)
Launch thruster, not pulse drive
gaunt kettle
I have 2 guilty Sparks, 2 hellhoundS and an ATST surrounding me and firing
hot wigeon
@gaunt kettle wut....
gaunt kettle
I have five stars with Atlas and they really don't like me right now so I'm hiding in my ship until I can take off
hot wigeon
oh lmao
prime spade
I think he's talking about sentinels, drones kindal ook like guilty spark, hellhounds are quadrupeds and ATST's are the walkers from Star Wars
last iron
So I just waited 20 hours for starbirth, what happens now? Do I just wait a random amount of time?
strong drift
can you still get living ship modules when doing space encounters in a non-living ship?
hot wigeon
nope
wanton leaf
great
strong drift
gotcha, thanks
hot wigeon
np
wanton leaf
how do i unlock all glyphs
prime spade
@last iron If the Starbirth timer has ended, select the quest in your log and go for a jaunt like you did last time til you encounter the alien ship again.
hot wigeon
the easiest way is the atlas story @wanton leaf
last iron
Thanks @prime spade
hot wigeon
it’s a pretty good story
gaunt kettle
It should be a 100% chance guarantee if you have the quest selected and a void egg ready I'm so sick and tired of waiting and trying to find them I've been to like five different systems now and I've been looking for the last like 2 or 3 hours
cloud epoch
@wanton leaf not atlas, atremis is the one u want for glyphs
mint bay
Anyone aware if Hydro Farms are powered on Freighters anymore?
wanton leaf
might try im really not that interested in following the story
hot wigeon
to each his own
gaunt kettle
So I've been sitting underground for the last couple of minutes waiting and waiting and waiting for the Sentinels to finally go away so I can take off and leave but they seem to know where I am despite being underground and blocked off from any site outside
pure radish
im just going to leave this here for anyone who is up to the living ship part where you have to wait for the parts to mature. https://www.usgamer.net/articles/no-mans-sky-how-to-obtain-the-mature-neural-stem-instantly
strong drift
^ note that the above has the potential to break your mining and game
cloud epoch
@gaunt kettle sprint to ur ship and just fly away (but dont leave the atmosphere)
ivory crown
if you load in anything timer-based without returning time first, it'll be broken
stay away from your base when doing this
gaunt kettle
@strong drift SERIOUSLY?
ivory crown
just don't be in your base
gaunt kettle
Could that be why I haven't been getting anything for the last two or three hours with this Quest?
Because before I was getting them literally instantly and now I'm not getting them at all
strong drift
mmm...if you save in game with day-ahead, then it effs up some time stuff, esp. with the living egg quest
gaunt kettle
Son of a bitch
So will it be fucked up until it gets to the point that it becomes the day and the time that it was at?
ivory crown
you have to return the time before you load in ANYTHING that has a timer
uncut harness
@foggy jacinth I have confirmed that you DO in fact get your Void Egg refunded if you reject a specimen.
strong drift
the JSON metadata behind the save holds the timestamp a day ahead for some discoveries and such, so I'm not sure of exact impact, but I had to do some fanagling to get my living egg quest back in shape after testing that thing above
stone cobalt
how could i install some of this useful tech on a living ship? is there an organic counterpart?
strong drift
@ivory crown the problem is that once you resave after getting the part that you need, it screws with some other stuff behind the scenes
gaunt kettle
GOD DAMN IT
ivory crown
that's why you don't load in anything timebased while you're ahead
hot wigeon
@stone cobalt they’ll most likely add some
gaunt kettle
So I just potentially lost 200 hours?
strong drift
it's not the "load" that's the problem
if you have a mission that's already in process
@gaunt kettle it depends, once you pass the time that you forwarded to
then it might be okay again
ivory crown
you mean the base data recovery?
strong drift
no
hot wigeon
wait what are we talking about
hot wigeon
i already did
ivory crown
timeskip is harmess if you know what you're doing
gaunt kettle
I apparently don't despise
ivory crown
people do timeskip without understanding how it works and what it impacts, that causes glitches
strong drift
I mean, @gaunt kettle , @ivory crown has more experience than I do in this
gaunt kettle
All I did was skip a total of three days ahead I didn't change the time at all
hot wigeon
wait what can go wrong with a time skip?
strong drift
right, but you saved your game afterwards right?
gaunt kettle
Yes
hot wigeon
i did it for all my tech and eventually went to the 29th
ivory crown
@gaunt kettle go over to your plants and mining equipment right now
do you see infinity as the "time left"?
gaunt kettle
I don't have plants or mining equipment
hot wigeon
uh
ivory crown
then you have nothing to worry about
gaunt kettle
Oh POGGERS
strong drift
so... @ivory crown , it screwed up my living egg quest
such that it wasn't registering the planet that the living egg was supposed to associate to
when I went into the associated JSON for my save
strong drift
I noticed that the epoch times saved for several entries were still a day in the future
yes
so, I modified them back to a time "before"
and reloaded my game, and it worked fine
ivory crown
you rollbacked time before your timer went away
strong drift
can you define that please? I'm unfortunately not certain what you mean
ivory crown
that's the problem
strong drift
all I did
hot wigeon
go back to the time you did before
strong drift
was set my system clock a day ahead
hot wigeon
like forward in time
strong drift
load into the game, get the item
and re-saved
and that seems to have been what broke it
ivory crown
it doesn't break it
you exit game as soon as you resave and rollback time
then relaunch at right time
azure prism
I was having the issue earlier where the ship wouldnt make contact. Turns out you have to have all the parts in your personal inventory.
strong drift
I did that, 🤷 and sure, I'll take your word for it, all I know is that I was effing around for four hours trying to get my quest fixed
and I had to do that to get it fixed
I did reset my time to "normal" and relaunched
ivory crown
it's either a different bug completely unrelated to this taking effect or you actually screwed something up in the process
strong drift
I hear ya, I could have very well possibly screwed something up lol
what I do know is that the metadata I was looking at still held the timestamps for the future save
ivory crown
timestamp doesn't have an effect on not timed quest steps
strong drift
even though I had reverted my clock, relaunched, and re-saved
azure prism
"Save, exit to NMS main menu, change time ahead, close app, open app and load up, change time back" what my husband told me to do and I had no issues
strong drift
okie dokie, I hear ya...I'm sure you're right and I screwed something up. end of story :).
@gaunt kettle your problem might resolve itself after three days
(or it could just be random 🤷♂️ )
quiet raft
is it worth getting a living ship?
violet trail
Hey guys. I don't usually ask for freebies, but would anyone have a spare void egg they'd be willing to part with on ps4? Quite low on Quiksilver, and don't always have a lot of time to play. Would very much appreciate it 😊
formal furnace
'don't always have a lot of time to play'
lol
everything about the living ship is a massive time sink :p
farming the quicksilver is just the first step (also I play on PC so I can't help)
quiet raft
@formal furnace is it worth getting one?
formal furnace
I mean, its all pixels on a screen, what are you looking for from it?
violet trail
Yeah it's gonna be a struggle, but I'll get around to it eventually 😅
strong drift
living ships have some advantages
formal furnace
it's a guaranteed ship that takes a bunch of work, and it's not awful
strong drift
(don't take damage when going to a new galaxy / black holes / etc.)
and they look awesome
formal furnace
but I can tell you this: if you have an exotic ship, you cannot make a living ship be better than an exotic
gaunt kettle
@violet trail i got one
formal furnace
they have garbage shields and medicore maneuverability, and can't currently do economy or conflict scanning stuff
and you can't expand their inventory beyond 22+21 that they come with
hot wigeon
we’ll be able to soon i suppose
formal furnace
and upgrading them is massively time consuming, so expect to sit at the base stats for a long time since you can't just dump nanos into upgrade modules
violet trail
@gaunt kettle eyy, thanks man, when works best for you to meet up?
strong drift
yeah, but they look awesomeeee 😄
gaunt kettle
@violet trail rn work?
formal furnace
yeah, literally the only advantages to living ships are: no damage traveling in black holes/to other galaxies, you can get one guaranteed unlike the luck based exotic farming, and the aesthetics if they look like what you want
but the drawbacks are significant
if you don't care about the looks of them and have an exotic, I would say it's probably not worth it unless you are doing it because you ran out of other stuff to do
violet trail
@gaunt kettle for sure, my psn is DarkMatter5695
gaunt kettle
One sec
hot wigeon
@formal furnace i think they’ll eventually make them the best ship if not tied for that place, the amount of work we put in to getting it doesn’t make any sense if this is the return
formal furnace
perhaps, I can only speak of today right now
hot wigeon
respect
formal furnace
Every class of ship has at least one major drawback (fighters hyperdrive sucks, explorers do crap damage, haulers maneuver like shit, exotics have low inventory slots, living ships have literally the worst shields)
but the drawback of exotics can literally be completely fixed by throwing money at it
all the drawbacks of the other types are permanent and unfixable
gaunt kettle
@violet trail join on me
formal furnace
oh, and I didn't include shuttles, they are like second worst in absolutely every category
violet trail
@gaunt kettle will do
uneven current
formal furnace
no idea
hot wigeon
@formal furnace Yeah, but exotics get kind of boring imo. aesthetic wise
they’re the basic rocket ship look @uneven current
formal furnace
theoretically they could have had the best launch cost, but explorer beats them on that
explorer launches with 12.5% fuel, shuttle with 16.66%, and everyone else 25%
according to the wiki
but I am pretty sure it's 20% now
hot wigeon
yeah i think so too
cloud epoch
shuttles are cheap and spacious for newcomers
strong drift
oh, also, one nice thing...living ships don't need to take warp cores
formal furnace
is the first ship yo uget a shuttle?
strong drift
for hyperspace fuel
formal furnace
because that would make sense
hot wigeon
no it’s a fighter
cloud epoch
nah starter ship is always a fighter
hot wigeon
the little puny red one
formal furnace
ah, that would have made sense to give the player a shuttle
given the archetypes they set out
so anything they got would be an upgrade
formal furnace
you could get a C class shuttle and have shittier damage, shields, and maneuverability :p
C class shuttle literally has 0% bonus to anything
hot wigeon
but space
violet trail
@violet trail thanks a bunch man, have a great one 😊!
formal furnace
yeah I guess
violet trail
Oops
hot wigeon
and space is really appealing to new players that have no inventory
violet trail
@gaunt kettle thanks a bunch, have a good one 😊!
gaunt kettle
👌 👌 👌
formal furnace
yeah, but in that case, go for a hauler instead of a shuttle
hot wigeon
yeah i don’t like shuttles but they have a very small niche
yeah... chlorine farms, seeking, then buying back. next day i’m worth $1.5B... kind of stupid
formal furnace
I do think they need to boost living ships a bit
they should be a sidegrade of sorts from an exotic, but they really arent
hot wigeon
they need something to be worth a ridiculous amount of money
hot wigeon
like at least $500M-$1B
strong drift
eh...I don't think they really care about the economy portion of the game
formal furnace
they really don't
hot wigeon
yeah but it could be the final money achievement
strong drift
hence, what Living Ship is focused on...just lots of cool encounters
hot wigeon
the freighter is nothing
formal furnace
yeah, freighter needs like 10 times the functionality it has
it feels like an afterthought
hot wigeon
$200M for a S class freighter is chump change at this point
i’d spend $200M if i needed 9,999 oxygen lmao
formal furnace
and getting the upgrade items for it is such a huge pain in the ass, I can't even use it for warping because it's range is shit without spending a bunch
strong drift
eh...I think freighters are pretty neat, they're essentially just a mobile base, which is kind of cool
to your guys' point though, it's not super exciting
hot wigeon
but they get you like 2 mil for a 20+ hour mission
formal furnace
I would like it a lot more as a mobile base if I could put a teleporter in it
hot wigeon
this^
strong drift
if you could customize / expand on it somehow (i.e. big mobile base in space), that would be fun
that's probably just more a technical complication than anything
(non-static coords for freighters)
hot wigeon
can you change the interior color?
formal furnace
I have a planetary base because I can port directly to it from any starbase, and I can build anything I want in that base
strong drift
(which is probably also why they can't have overlapping player bases and such)
hot wigeon
honestly... my base is too nice
formal furnace
my freighter can't do all that
hot wigeon
for my first ever base imo
formal furnace
and the freighter is less interesting than a planet
strong drift
agreed, which is why I was saying, if they could expand on the space base idea, that would be neat
formal furnace
yeah
I put all the storage rooms in my freighter
but having to be way inside my freighter to use them is a problem
hot wigeon
yeah
strong drift
the way they handle storage in general is no bueno
formal furnace
I have the tech to transfer stuff to and from my freighter any time I want, but it's locked at 34 slots
hot wigeon
wish it was easy access
formal furnace
like.... my exosuit can hold more shit than my freighter
and so can my ship
that's not how it should be
strong drift
literally every open world sandbox game since the dawn of time (Minecraft) gives you the option to make as many boxes / whathavenots that you want
hot wigeon
200 slots
formal furnace
I can't access those containers conveniently
it's easier to access the ones on my planetary base because it requires less flying and running to get to them
hot wigeon
you can’t access any container conveniently
formal furnace
the freighter is missing one super critical trait: easy access
hot wigeon
mhm
strong drift
you'd figure an advanced spacefaring civilization would figure out some level of quantum tunnelling for storage 😉
*tunneling
formal furnace
it barely feels like it makes my life easier
strong drift
I think they were trying to go for a mix of "functional and cool"
formal furnace
the fact that I can be in a solar system 500 light years from my freighter and transfer stuff to it's main inventory makes me wonder why I can't also access those 10 strorage rooms
hot wigeon
what is the difference with the capital freighter
and do frigates transfer if i buy a new freighter?
formal furnace
yeah, and I have an A class 34+9 max size Resurgent style freighter
it's super rad, but it takes time to fly up, dock, run to the base area
when instead I can just use a teleporter to be in the middle of my planetary base
which has more amenities
because I can port directly to any starbase or base from there, but if I am in my freighter, now I need to run to my ship, take off, and head to a starbase if I want to teleport
hot wigeon
mhmm
formal furnace
with the new derelict starbases, maybe they will give us the ability to own a starbase
now that would be cool
formal furnace
yeah
hot wigeon
damn
strong drift
like starbound
formal furnace
if you see one with rainbow effects on the entrance area, it's an abandoned derelict one
hot wigeon
what is the difference with the capital freighter
@hot wigeon
ivory crown
size
formal furnace
it has a trade terminal and a teleporter but is otherwise like an abandoned building
hot wigeon
like in terms of what
formal furnace
normal freighters are 14-19 size, capital ones are 24-34
ivory crown
inventory size is all the difference
formal furnace
and normal freighters are tiny, capital ones are huge and only show up in certain circumstances
formal furnace
yeah
hot wigeon
if i upgrade to a new capital one, will my frigates transfer?
formal furnace
yes
hot wigeon
ight coo
hot wigeon
that’s fine
formal furnace
and when you are taking the new one, on that screen you can transfer your stuff in it's inventory
hot wigeon
mhm
formal furnace
kind of important
formal furnace
vagrant bane
Hey ladies and gents, kinda stuck: It tells me I am on the planet that matches the void eggs needs and I am at the specified coordinates, but theres nothing here, been searching for hours (its a water planet)
formal furnace
it might be bugged Sable, since the most recent patch a TON of people have been having that issue
proven ridge
Look for a korvax plaque, I had to go up into space and come back down to spot it @vagrant bane
formal furnace
yeah, if you look closely at the images you can see they are actually different
Venator has 2 sections on the side for supply pots, imperial has 4, and resurgent has 6
vagrant bane
(should show as a purple icon yeah?)
proven ridge
It won't
hot wigeon
the resurgent class is the biggest?
formal furnace
of that style
gaunt kettle
Well looks like my game is on hold rn
hot wigeon
it looks the biggest in general
formal furnace
then you have sentinel, battleship, dreadnaught
proven ridge
(at least it didn't for me, annoying as hell)
hot wigeon
is the dreadnaught bigger that the resurgent though?
hot wigeon
looks bigger anyway
formal furnace
hard to have a good perspective from the screenshot
hot wigeon
yeah
formal furnace
but yeah, they are massive compared to the normal freighters that just warp in near you constantly
hot wigeon
what changes the tier
formal furnace
nothing
hot wigeon
like what’s the difference with that
formal furnace
nothing
ivory crown
the "size tier" is a dummy data
formal furnace
internally, it's identical
ivory crown
it doesn't do anything
formal furnace
it's just aesthetics
hot wigeon
lol
formal furnace
and like exotics, every system has 1 and only 1 capital ship associated with it
ivory crown
HG thought about making them have inventory tiers like the starships
but they scrapped the idea and went with Capital-Regular
formal furnace
you will never see a different capital ship spawn in the same system (not counting your own)
hot wigeon
i think i’m gonna get one tonight or tomorrow
maybe look on coordinate exchange
does it work like that
formal furnace
it's actually super useful that they don't change in a given system, because when you are ready for a ship battle, you can keep reloading your save and warping to new systems to find one that looks like what you want
then farm that specific capital freighter until you get S34+9
azure prism
How does everyone make so much money? I can never find the high priced items
strong drift
any idea where relic gates warp you to?
formal furnace
abuse market mechanics for quick money, abuse market crashes and lots of warping with wiring looms for tons of money but lots of warp fuel, build a crazy activated indium mine for huge effort up front but constant passive money forevermore
cunning kayak
Is their a way to fix starbirth qiest bit were u have to find a colourful planet?
azure prism
You have to have the gas collectors right
gaunt kettle
@strong drift farthest I got was 1.264 Million light years away from the position I was at
formal furnace
I got 1.5 million light years
strong drift
...1.264 million?
formal furnace
on my first one
hot wigeon
@cunning kayak you have to go to the planet it says
formal furnace
yeah, it teleports you to a random system way on the other end of the galaxy
strong drift
so...to make sure I'm reading this right, my screen says 708.726 LY from the galactic core
hot wigeon
check pins if you need the specific names
formal furnace
if you take the relic gate, it will probably be farther away than that
but on the other side of the core
azure prism
I've got a ss of the glyphs you need
strong drift
would 1.26 mil for that be like 710.726, or 1264708.768
strong drift
ah, fair
formal furnace
you could theoretically end up with a similar distance from the core
but in a totally different place in the galaxy
all that really matters is that it will fling you way the hell far away from where you are at
and probably have you end up near the edge of the galaxy
it's a huge jump, far more than a blackhole would do
cunning kayak
@hot wigeon it just find a colourful planet. YouTuber find one called lost.... planet but the system it shows me to doesn't have that or drivers next bit of line
hot wigeon
not sure then
can you go to the coords of a freighter and warp out of the galaxy and back in?
cunning kayak
Been on all 4 planets nothing triggered next bit
strong drift
@cunning kayak are you on the first step?
vagrant bane
Mine was an ultramarine planet, and im stuck 😐
vagrant bane
Yep
strong drift
try going to a far system / black hole
I think at some points it offers the option to reset the quest
vagrant bane
First step, find the planet with Powerful Anomalies and strange colours
formal furnace
that's going to be a mega exotic
cunning kayak
@vagrant bane that's were I'm at
hot wigeon
can you go to the coords of a freighter and warp out of the galaxy and back in?
@hot wigeon ._.
srry, i should’ve just put this in help
strong drift
yeah, that's the better channel for that kind of question
mighty rampart
@high anchor you're on a sporal planet right now?
high anchor
there's funky looking mushrooms
mighty rampart
Um so the quest is still saying to "look at the egg"?
mighty rampart
Or is it asking you to warp againn
high anchor
no I'm in the right system
mighty rampart
Check another planet then
hot wigeon
theyre looking for the anomalous planet
mighty rampart
There might be another calcishroom planet
high anchor
mighty rampart
In the same system
high anchor
yeah there's a fungal planet
hot wigeon
petrified
mighty rampart
Go
mighty rampart
Hm I don't remember what petrified is, but if it's again the metal egg planet then yeah
hot wigeon
it’s the floating squares
high anchor
I'm going to the fungal planet
hot wigeon
could be
wow. 3 anomalous planets in one system lol
are those all the ones in your system?
high anchor
yeah
hot wigeon
that’s pretty crazy ngl
high anchor
oh this planet is weird as hell too
hot wigeon
is it more of the same?
high anchor
yeah
hot wigeon
damn
you can dm me for help if you want
like at anytime if nobody is responding here
high anchor
mighty rampart
Then just keep trying all the planets in your system lmao
hot wigeon
this is the final one
mighty rampart
Has to be it
high anchor
it has to be
hot wigeon
mhm
high anchor
there's more planets tho
hot wigeon
i mean to be fair... i said to go to this one
high anchor
yeah
hot wigeon
lol just joking
mighty rampart
Ya new feature
high anchor
yeah it's kinda annoying because all of them have never had anything good
hot wigeon
or else you will feel like shit
high anchor
ok what the fuck is this
hot wigeon
always keep metal plating. no questions
mighty rampart
Ok so it's not petrified planet then
hot wigeon
it could be
mighty rampart
Some other calcishroom planet in the system
hot wigeon
it’s not always a calcishroom planet
mighty rampart
Is though
hot wigeon
it’s just an anomalous i’m pretty sure
high anchor
this isn't fucking it what the hell
hot wigeon
welp.
mighty rampart
Nope it specifically says this kind of anomalous planet
hot wigeon
we’re great help
high anchor
maybe the cerulean planet?
high anchor
mighty rampart
And try again
mighty rampart
Ohhh
mighty rampart
You're doing the first first part of the mission
hot wigeon
go to it, it’s a trippy planet btw
mighty rampart
Is the cerulean planet "activated indium"?
hot wigeon
just go to it
high anchor
k
mighty rampart
Did you just start the mission?
hot wigeon
it can’t be any other planet, @mighty rampart we’re probably the worst help ever rn lol, we just told him to go to every planet but the one he had to
mighty rampart
Oh lol I thought you were already done some of it
@hot wigeon I thought he was on the 4th part
high anchor
God damnit
hot wigeon
lol
mighty rampart
Not the first
mighty rampart
First planet is a chromatic fog planet with aggressive sentinels
hot wigeon
Gets to planet
Lands
Holds E
Game Crashes
mighty rampart
Or generally extreme weather
Second planet is an extreme weather desert planet
Third planet is the calcishroom one
mighty rampart
are there any other planets left
mighty rampart
and also aggressive sentinels though im not 100% sure it has to have aggressive sentinels
formal furnace
this update is kind of a shitshow with how confused players are getting
hot wigeon
mhmm
high anchor
I saw one with crazy sentinals
mighty rampart
||its not that hard, some people are bad at puzzles compared to others||
you had already landed there?
high anchor
this is it
vagrant bane
how do you force reset a quest? I warped back to my home planet (dozen or so jumps but its not prompting me for reset
high anchor
hold middle mouse
mighty rampart
@vagrant bane try a black hole
proven ridge
Does the date trick work for consoles if they are disconnected from the internet?
mighty rampart
yes
proven ridge
Yay
normal orchid
Got my living ship.. yay
mighty rampart
@warped turret are you starting the void egg mission? or you're at the point where you need to access a portal?
formal furnace
Sohail yeah I am not really sure if there are bugs or not, there are a LOT of people coming in here who can't find shit with the coordinates, and they are adamant that they are doing it right. I had 0 issues but I also worked customer support for an ISP before, so I am 100% familiar with the 'belligerent but wrong' way many people act when they are frustrated
warped turret
at the point where I need to use the portal lad
mighty rampart
are you on PC?
warped turret
aye
hasty solar
For me the glyphs that I got when I check my egg aren’t the planet where everyone goes to
uncut harness
how do I get a living ship
normal orchid
Can't wait to fly this ship in VR.. maybe tomorrow
warped turret
you a real one lad
mighty rampart
@uncut harness get a "void egg" from the quicksilver shop in the space anomaly
formal furnace
@uncut harness buy the 3200 quicksilver egg in the anomoly, then go pulse jumping around the system till you get contacted
normal orchid
If I want another ship do I have to do that all over?
hot wigeon
the quicksilver shop
formal furnace
then after 4-5 days and tons of grinding and puzzle solving, you will have a ship you can't upgrade without a ton more grinding
hasty solar
Can anyone help me with my void egg quest?
warped turret
added ya lad
mighty rampart
@normal orchid nah the game skips to the last part
gaunt kettle
So I think my game is fucked
mighty rampart
but then you need 10k nanites
formal furnace
Donut, if your egg gives you a set of glyphs, use those glyphs
normal orchid
@mighty rampart Oh awesome.. thanks. 🙂 Not sure I want to get rid of any other ship for this, but nice to have the option
formal furnace
it should drop you in the right location for the next step
hasty solar
I don’t know the glyph names
gaunt kettle
When do you think the next fix or whatever will come out?
formal furnace
December 23, 2028
uncut harness
Back was collecting storm crystals
vagrant bane
haha, so broken.. the egg seeks a specific world in this system (theres only one planet, and it doesn't trigger sigh)
normal orchid
Really the stats on the living ship are kinda disappointing, barely better than the S class shuttle I sacrificed, but it's cool looking
ivory crown
stats are not what it's good at
high anchor
ok how do I get the korvax vasing
ivory crown
it's completely immune to system damage
high anchor
casing
ivory crown
you can do as many black hole jumps without repairing
and do galaxy jump without sacrificing a scrap ship
normal orchid
.. and it looks cool 😉
dapper belfry
bruh, armorer mission got my ass killed
didnt realize he'd dial up the robot overlords
then my game crashed
proven ridge
Aww, can't get the time trick to work on xbone :/
gaunt kettle
i didnt change it back while offline so i fucked up
mighty rampart
and when loading thr game
proven ridge
It's disconnected. tried to save in -11 TS, quit, pushed it to +14, still says 25 hours
silent talon
I've been trying all day to get a red and black hammer head and still no luck reeeeeeeee
crisp fern
⏲️
silent talon
Never thought of nms as a grindy game but here I am grinding
crisp fern
it wasn't always that way
they restructured it heavily to be grindy after people complained about nothing to do
also they just added the ability to get more of existing things which inevitably makes it grindier
high anchor
how do i do the time trick on game
on pc
not game
@mighty rampart ???
sorry for ping
mighty rampart
@high anchor close the game, turn your internet off, set the date one day in advance, load the game while still offline
glacial sphinx
Im litterally gonna yeet, i've been walking around looking for this damn second set of coords and i cant find it
gaunt kettle
So I think I discovered that you have to have the previous part that you completed on you at the time you're looking for the ship
glacial sphinx
it wants you to dab
pure radish
no
fossil hearth
My brain is a bit bleh right now... atlas is asking me if I want to let me die o, O
Kind of reminds me of the situation with artemis xD
pure radish
what do i do with one: ascending orb it involves the egg quest
rustic adder
How do I get to Euclid for the living ship quest?
rustic adder
My coords didnt change too much
mighty rampart
@high anchor the closer you get to the thing (its an acient plaque again) the coords will change to a smaller range
high anchor
oh ok
I can't walk on this planet
everything is mean and it's hot as hell
lol
this is the worst holy shit
how do I get an exocraft again?
fossil hearth
:x If I seek the final interface... or head to the middle of the world. Will I lose my egg?
formal furnace
@pure radish that's part of a little lore side pursuit.
it's related to the egg, but not part of the egg quest
and it doesn't ultimately give you anything except some neat lore stuff
you will continue to get those messages in a random order until you have all 12 glyphs and the galaxy name
it's not random though, you can just look it up online what it will eventually tell you
it's portal coordinates
glacial sphinx
How many sets of coords do i need to follow for this bloody starbirth quest
glacial sphinx
Imma stab a power socket
high anchor
these changing coordinates are fucking absurd
pure radish
@formal furnace cheers
gaunt kettle
@high anchor yeah fuck that part
mighty rampart
I was under the assumption its some ship that's moving around or something in general that's spastic
uncut harness
Does this count as a spoiler
mighty rampart
I had no one to ask because I was one of the very few who started the mission before it was live
high anchor
it also doesn't help
that my ship occasionally displays the coordinates as negative
so idk if im on the wrong part of the planet
it doesn't always do it
mighty rampart
you probably are
high anchor
at what point does it change to positive?
mighty rampart
must be like 0.something if it changes from positive to negative
high anchor
how do I get an exocraft?
gaunt kettle
You have to build one of those stations
high anchor
is the ship even worth it
gaunt kettle
22 storage 21 tech, handles like a hauler According to some, good for exploration and thats about it, it can't be upgraded for now, and it was only sent out with some equivalents to certain things
high anchor
yikes
pure radish
how do i upgrade the amount of storage my living ship has
gaunt kettle
You don't
high anchor
fuck it
I'm just gonna right down all the coordinates
and calculate the median
don't have time for this shit
gaunt kettle
How far do I have to go on the 6th part of the quest
I just tells me that unconventional travel may be required
gaunt kettle
For flesh of metal bones?
pure radish
if it says unconventional travel then yeah
fossil hearth
If I seek the final interface... or head to the middle of the world. Will I lose my egg?
pure radish
like the end of the game?
fossil hearth
Im thinking yes o,o
pure radish
id suggest you store it somewhere safe
fossil hearth
It's heading to the middle of the world and resetting everything
gaunt kettle
FUCK ME i don't know where a portal is
fossil hearth
Well on me, or in my base?
pure radish
depends of you create a new galaxy or not
high anchor
eragon
high anchor
the weekend mission in the nexus uses a portal
pure radish
and if its in the wrong spot
high anchor
with glyphs
fossil hearth
Even if my suit gets damaged, will I lose my egg?
pure radish
im not sure
high anchor
@gaunt kettle
fossil hearth
Though Im confused... If I create a new galaxy what does that exactly do? Put me in a new procedurally generated world or ?
I mean... I'm already in a galaxy with a ton of options o,O
gaunt kettle
Where do I find the glyphs?
shrewd hinge
You won't know where the galaxy is formed. And you'll have the choice to go to another galaxy or not.
There's predetermined galaxies you might get sent to.
mighty rampart
@crisp fern ignoring the timers, dont you think this mission has been a really weird choice? the precursor mission involved getting the community to work together to figure out the portal coords for the lore, and then the main mission which was solo, making us go to physical coordinates and being really vague about things rather than the usual format of missions where it just drops the waypoints
fossil hearth
@shrewd hinge I guess my main fear is... will I lose my egg if I have it on me?
high anchor
how do I gather liquid sun?
shrewd hinge
No, shouldn't.
high anchor
I have the ray thingy
fossil hearth
okey
crisp fern
i mean from what i've read of it all, the puzzles are the only positive, interesting part of it all
high anchor
but idk what metal to blast
fossil hearth
yeah will do
shrewd hinge
@high anchor Deposits
mighty rampart
because of which we have lots of players complaining about the coords thing, mostly proper critique as reading coords from the ship is a pain and no way can you achieve it on foot only
high anchor
ty
crisp fern
albeit i'm not entirely sure to what degree the community collab may have been necessary for portal coords
shrewd hinge
Having to swap into slowmodewalking-visor mode is annoying af when crawling coordinates.
crisp fern
but that's only 'cause i'm unclear on how the coords are conveyed/provided, if it's piecemeal every so many warps or what
shrewd hinge
I think that was the most frustrating thing, because if you were just a little bit off from your line and went bolting in one direction you could be way off in the span of a couple of minutes.
crisp fern
because if it's that then i guess you could just keep track of which popped up, and then see if it looped so then you could get the proper sequence
mighty rampart
formal furnace
@high anchor you asked about the living ship. I think it's important someone also mentions to you that it has the absolute worst shields of any S class ship type
mighty rampart
"the community" and not "the player(s)"
formal furnace
handles worse than any ship other than a hauler, has worse shields than anything, and is above average but not super remarkable at hyperdrive distance and damage
shrewd hinge
It's pretty and can be upgraded.
mighty rampart
^
shrewd hinge
by finding more void eggs in space
formal furnace
everything can be upgraded
crisp fern
i've kept myself mostly in the dark despite tracking some of it, so yeah, without trying it myself without just looking up the solution I dunno
formal furnace
and other ship types are easier to upgrade
mighty rampart
I dont think living ships should be advantageous
formal furnace
so not really a credit to the living ship
crisp fern
it'd make them even more obnoxious if they were advantageous, lmao
shrewd hinge
It's a living creature, it should be difficult. Not -as- difficult as trundling across a multiplayer wasteland and 5 timegates, but still.
ivory crown
at least its shield can be charged with pugneum on the go I guess
mighty rampart
they're a novelty ship that's meant to be a little challenging for end game players
ivory crown
instead of shield batteries
crisp fern
disclaimer: the timegates are not part of the challenge 👀
ivory crown
they are great for black hole jumps tho
formal furnace
fighter, hauler, and explorer are all the worst at 1 thing, but its balanced by them being the best at one thing
ivory crown
and galaxy jump
shrewd hinge
annoyances.
mighty rampart
@crisp fern I mean using a living ship as your primary
formal furnace
they could have made the living ship have the best maneuverability
that would be awesome
you would be fragile, but really quick
mighty rampart
I disagree
shrewd hinge
I've never been big on min/maxing for purpose. I go with what I enjoy.
mighty rampart
living ships seem like an experiment not just by the korvax prime but by HG themselves
shrewd hinge
So, for people who need the best of the best of the meta, yeah living ships suck. But that's not what it's about, or supposed to be about anyway.
mighty rampart
let's forget about the meta for a second
shrewd hinge
I named mine Moya. Because reasons.
ivory crown
I still think there's no better ship for black hole and galaxy jumping than living ships
shrewd hinge
It did make mincemeat of that black hole I jumped through, almost 200k lightyears in one jump
ivory crown
living ships are just straight up better explorers - they're good for exploring. period
shrewd hinge
Got my dreadnaught too out of it.
fossil hearth
Meta is for penises o,o
mighty rampart
living ships do not work like your conventional ship: you cant just immediately max them out with upgrades, but you can "upgrade" whatever upgrade you find
shrewd hinge
ROFL
fossil hearth
Just saying :>
mighty rampart
they are ann experiment in seeing how players react to an actual progression
and how they feel about:
more challenging puzzles (coordinates rather than direct waypoints)
large time gates
ivory crown
the whole idea of progression is neat, if it could be obtained a lot earlier than grinding up 3.2k qs
gaunt kettle
@mighty rampart bullshit
mighty rampart
I'm sure they know most of us hate the time gates
shrewd hinge
If it leads to real ship customization it'll be great. But leave out the time gates please, and have coordinates on screen all the time if that's going to happen.
formal furnace
I don't feel it's just about min-maxing. If I spent a bunch of money and effort to fully upgrade one of every type of ship as much as I can, there are non-aesthetic reasons to use explorers, fighters, haulers, and exotics. Shuttles seem intentionally terrible, and living ships have no functional draw to them compared to other classes, and that seems weird to me
mighty rampart
and now they will also think most of us hated the coordinates stuff
shrewd hinge
Add coordinates to our main HUD with planet view.
crisp fern
I sure as hell hope they know we hate the timegates seeing so many people have the living ships within a day of the update, lmao
uncut harness
maybe half their players save editing immediately rubs them the wrong way lol
fossil hearth
If I didnt have to deal with the busyness of the work bs, I wouldn't midn the time gate... because it's an intersting mechanic... I mean growing the ship and the like .... but yeah
mighty rampart
so if this was an experiment by HG to see if we'll enjoy content in the future that requires ultra patience and risky puzzles, we've failed them hard
crisp fern
It'd be an interesting mechanic if not attached to real-time
mighty rampart
^
crisp fern
Imo
shrewd hinge
If it felt like it was in line with everything else i don't think it'd be so bad.
But that was just time wasting for the sake of time wasting.
fossil hearth
As is I plan on time skipping because well, irl is a thing and work gets in the way of having long stints of time to wait on that
mighty rampart
I honestly think living ships in of themselves are a brilliant idea
they're meaningful progression
crisp fern
Like that's the thing I've not been getting across to folks very well, the waiting doesn't bother me so much as the waiting being related to real-time
mighty rampart
and not just a direct unit/nanite sink
formal furnace
I think they absolutely have potential, but I am hoping HG updates them so they have a real functional niche beyond just jumping through black holes
gaunt kettle
Doing this Mission has been one of the most grueling things in my life
mighty rampart
they did
formal furnace
because it's pretty trivial to fix the thing that breaks after jumping
mighty rampart
like I said, living ships cannot be immediately maxed out
formal furnace
that's not what I meant by functional niche
mighty rampart
you have to find the void eggs in space, and get an upgrade
fossil hearth
Im wanting to get an organic ship for the fact that it is organic. I mean with enough skill, each ship is as useful as the next o,O
formal furnace
I meant a specific task that I would want to take one for
mighty rampart
if the upgrade isnt already an S class, you can make it one by evolving it
fossil hearth
It just looks nifty, and tbh... even combat I'm happy doing with an exploration ship
crisp fern
@gaunt kettle let the devs know, lol:
https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
mighty rampart
kinda like most other games where you can upgrade your ship's already existing parts
oh also random space encounters is another part of the confusion
most players are trained to the fact that everything needs a function in order to exist
crisp fern
when in NMS most things don't have a function/reason for existing, lmao
mighty rampart
but now we can find pretty things in space sometimes, most of them are just to look at, some drop trade items when destroyed, and some engage pirates or sentinels
shrewd hinge
I think they're just trying to slowly implement exploration back in and the noisy multiplayers are going "WHY?! WHAT DO I NEED TO DO WITH THIS, WHY IS THIS HAPPENING" When it's just supposed to be a 'woah that's cool' moment.
formal furnace
it would be a little nice if the distribution of pulse events wasn't so heavily weighted towards busted freighters and traders, but in general I really like that addition
even the ones that are just lore
mighty rampart
one exception being the derelict freighters, they're done poorly
crisp fern
are we sure that isn't just a result of system types being frequented? 
mighty rampart
some freighters are the exact asset you see on planets
shrewd hinge
I took pictures of one. It was pretty neat seeing one in space.
mighty rampart
so the average player will think they can access them somehow
shrewd hinge
will admit to shooting at one.
mighty rampart
formal furnace
yeah, I saw something posted where I guess you can even shoot open the doors like the ones on planets
yeah haha
mighty rampart
there's even damaged panels and cargo inside
mighty rampart
this was a bad choice lol
crisp fern
outside of some floaty bits anyway
shrewd hinge
So, hopefully it'll mean space walking at some point
Or have a landing position like on frigates.
mighty rampart
either should have given us a way to loot them or just dont add these ones to space
crisp fern
and busted collision, like on frigates! wait
shrewd hinge
lmfao
I haven't stepped on a frigate since.
I just stopped doing those idle missions.
crisp fern
their collision is so damn rough
mighty rampart
funny enough the main freighter collisions are pretty accurate
like you dont hit an invisible wall, but you can hit one of the supporting beams accurately
and not to mention we do have some freighter stuff in the datamines that seem like we are to some day actually go in them
with traps and keycards
shrewd hinge
I've accidentally ended up outside my freighter. But that was way early on. I think they fixed that.
mighty rampart
can still happen although rarely
crisp fern
or frequently if you're a dumbass spacer and go to the edges of star systems often
like i've done occasionally, lmao
last iron
so like
shrewd hinge
lmfao
mighty rampart
I'm just worried they'll take the wrong criticism from the living ships mission
shrewd hinge
I get myself into some bad clipping situations
mighty rampart
and think players dont want harder puzzles
last iron
I'm looking for coordinates for the second time, but whatever I'm looking for is moving too fast
crisp fern
Or just puzzles in general
shrewd hinge
I don't mind puzzles, but some of that really needs refining.
last iron
Or am I supposed to take the average?
fossil hearth
I like puzzles :>
mighty rampart
its not moving dont worry
and yeah take an average and find the building on foot
with your visor
last iron
Gotcha, thank you
shrewd hinge
Get to the center of the moving coordinates, by line. and just look around
last iron
Was so confused lmao
crisp fern
The issue I see with the current puzzles is the issue with NMS comms overall, which is that they're a little too vague when they could be better served being specific
mighty rampart
yeah I did mine without any help at all
shrewd hinge
I kept looking for a moving animal thinking it ate what I needed.
uncut harness
turning nms into a puzzle game is not the right answer imo
crisp fern
It is imo, lmao
shrewd hinge
It's a fine line to walk when you don't want to hold a player's hand but the majority don't like puzzles.
mighty rampart
I think they should have stopped with the coordinate stuff after the one or two times
shrewd hinge
They want shooty missions
mighty rampart
it got repetitive and annoying
crisp fern
RIP, me over here liking the pseudo-adventure game stuff from the dialog interactions
shrewd hinge
I remember trying to figure out what the portals meant, fecking rolling gold balls for miles just to push them through to see if something activated.
crisp fern
Just wishing it was more environmentally oriented point & click adventure-ish
Except point & scan and such
mighty rampart
they should try more variety in the puzzles without it being overly vague
uncut harness
lol
crisp fern
Like if you have to go between action/shooty missions and puzzle/thinky missions, I feel like NMS is far better suited to the latter than the former
shrewd hinge
Piecing together the stories that are given to you now through missions.
uncut harness
I dont want to do zelda tier puzzles to get resources, that's terrible
shrewd hinge
There's enough action/shooty games out there, keep making NMS unique, which is what I was promised.
mighty rampart
I like to imagine raiding a facility and you actually have to "hack" it
shrewd hinge
Not resources, but special stuff.
mighty rampart
there's some code and you patch it
crisp fern
How about Metroid Prime tier puzzles 👀
mighty rampart
I havent played them tbh
mighty rampart
only played the 2D metroids
crisp fern
it's honestly baffling to me that NMS doesn't crib more from Metroid Prime
mighty rampart
example of one?
shrewd hinge
F4's 'hacking' game annoys me.
crisp fern
It's like the go to example for first-person scifi exploration games
shrewd hinge
I thought it'd be something like Portal was that.
mighty rampart
wait I forgot I've played metroid prime hunters
uncut harness
fallout 4 mechanics no thank you
crisp fern
Uhhh, tbh I can't remember any big puzzles beyond switching visor modes to identify what the switch needs to be hit with, lol
mighty rampart
ya I got it now
mighty rampart
seeya
crisp fern
remember to prep the BBQ
mighty rampart
apparently freighter space battles can start anytime now
like in the middle of you exploring a system
formal furnace
wait really?
uncut harness
biggest issue I got right now is the lack of meanimgfull end-game activities, it's like you warp a hundred times and do all the grinding and your done
ruby hamlet
yeah the end game is pretty much nonexistent
fossil hearth
The game originally was intended to be an exploration game, no?
uncut harness
people want to add meaningless stuff to make the journey from A to B longer, but I'm ready for point C dang it
fossil hearth
I mean.. exploring is exploring. The original end game was to see all the things you could see o,o At least as I understand it
uncut harness
hopping worm with arms #4347
uncut harness
I love the exploration, it just feels like I've seen it all
ruby hamlet
this
mighty rampart
but have you
aside from the le 18 babillion shit, there's a good handful of biomes to visit
fossil hearth
Have you seen the procedurally generated good boy yet?
uncut harness
I have 81 total milestones and I think I've seen 99% of the games basic framework for stuff
The basic 'shape is of the procedural generation if you will
mighty rampart
if you have, and you have no drive to start all over or interested in any of the end game stuff then honestly its ok to move on from the game
maybe coming back once a while when a big update drops if you feel interested
fossil hearth
Procedurally generated pupper I found... sadly I lost which world I found it on :< https://i.redd.it/oxj6ogj09dgz.jpg
ruby hamlet
that's kinda what i do tbh
shrewd hinge
That's pretty damn adorable
uncut harness
Awww
mighty rampart
for me, I'm still pressing on because there's still some animals I wanna see and they're such a rarity
shrewd hinge
I still haven't seen a diplo.
mighty rampart
me neither
shrewd hinge
4th anniversary coming up and never seen one
mighty rampart
well tiny diplos
uncut harness
Once I find a mega diplo I'll have no drive to play anymore
shrewd hinge
I don't see as many ruins as we use to see either.
mighty rampart
and today I found this absolute unit of a Parasect
uncut harness
I did see some velociraptor looking creatures
shrewd hinge
Could fly around and discover pastel ruins and now it's hard to find.
fossil hearth
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/6ud6yn/i_believe_i_may_have_the_cutest_creature_in_all/ found the pupper two years ago... haven't found once since :<
lol
mighty rampart
two years ago? probably doesnt exist anymore then
shrewd hinge
This silly kitty trying to run upright
mighty rampart
also if you like lush planets, they've changed up the colours for them a bit
the dual grass colours have gotten wild
uncut harness
Pretty sad they limited the generation of animals
I kinda miss the derpy walking abominations
shrewd hinge
Did they though? I've seen progressively better combinations and more varied combinations
shrewd hinge
They still exist
fossil hearth
https://www.reddit.com/r/NMS_Zoology/ has some funky animals
uncut harness
I remember when they could have any variation of big and small legs lol
shrewd hinge
They still do
uncut harness
Like kne giant leg and 3 small ones
mighty rampart
Ya