nms-spoilers

[floral anchor]

You ever realise how your character constantly says that everything seems vaguely familiar, like a constant deja vu?

He was part of the original Dreamers. He was the one that didn't make it out. So Atlas erases his memories so he doesn't try to escape, believing that he would destroy everything Atlas created in the first place.

Atlas sees himself as a God over everything he created. He would do anything to protect it.

[uncut harness]

One thing we can 100% agree on

[floral anchor]

Even make false enemies, ie: the Travelers who go against Atlas, to keep you looped in.

[uncut harness]

A&S did 2311T so dirty

So did HG

[floral anchor]

Atlas is an AI

[uncut harness]

Poor guy. Gal. Thing.

[floral anchor]

He's more than programmed, he learns.

[uncut harness]

Which site? WT?

Atlas isn’t really an AI. Emily is an AI. Atlas has a personality interface that acts like one but seems like it more than likely isn’t Warren’s facet.

It’s a weird thing in this game where it doesn’t speak much on that

But that’s if you were nitpicking I guess

[floral anchor]

But how sure are we that he isn't an AI? He created Emily, correct? An AI?

[uncut harness]

Atlas Foundation made Emily

And the engine that runs it

[floral anchor]

Ah, I see.

But then he created the Travelers in an attempt to recreate his creator. That seems more sentient to me than anything.

[uncut harness]

Atlas is more or less the engine. I guess it has an AI attached to it in the game, which is actually entitled “the personality interface” iirc, but that has to be activated before it speaks or does anything. So I guess you could say it is one, or technically it has one

[floral anchor]

Well

Even without an AI

[uncut harness]

Wasn’t it Atlas0.16 or something? The engine name?

[floral anchor]

It is supposed to house and create this universe in NMS, correct?

[uncut harness]

Yup

[floral anchor]

And, being that it is supposed to create it, it also must protect it. Correct?

[uncut harness]

I guess the game just takes the engine and personality interface and twists it into a singular being to make it easier to comprehend

But it still acknowledges that it is comprised of separate instances like that with how you can literally activate its personality

Also, yeah

[floral anchor]

Hence my theory on our character being his main target. We are something it doesn't understand and can potentially destroy his creation.

So, to its protocol, it will do whatever it can to protect it.

No

It does care

But not in the way you think

It doesn't want us to believe we are not part of it

It wants us to think we are from this universe

So it does whatever it can to keep us believing in it.

[uncut harness]

Also can I just say I’m thrilled we can get this deep in the plot? Before 1.3 it felt like what was there was a bit too shallow to get into this particular detail level, even if it was meant to be a bit more open to interpretation

[floral anchor]

It won't interfere directly, but Travelers, Polo and Nada, and everything else can be considered "indirectly".

I agree

So

[uncut harness]

It was the same story more or less but a bit more generic as a side effect of its style then

Detail breathed life into its roots. I’m very glad we had an ARG and HG cared to resurge the storyline.

[floral anchor]

That's why I firmly believe that you are on your own.

Nada, Polo, -null-, Artemis, Apollo, Atlas, everyone. They are all against you.

[uncut harness]

Though admittedly I wish they focused more on lore than plot lines like Artemis. I don’t think it fits this game

I mean the gameplay

Tbh the gameplay loop makes it a bit of a chore to go through

One word.

Mind arc.

That’s when it became prominent. All that crafting...

[floral anchor]

I don't mind a story quest line having a lot of stuff to do. I don't mind crafting a lot.

But "Korvax Scientest will take 1:30.00 to reboot. Do other tasks in the meantime"

Seriously?

[uncut harness]

Lol, yeah...

[floral anchor]

Like that's the shit you see on mobile Bejewled style games

[uncut harness]

A lot of the missions are just doing what you would normally do in the game which sounds like a good thing to do but it feels weird seeing a counter judge your decisions deciding itself when you can progress through the story, if that makes any sense. Other games have similar concepts but also have side missions you can partake that offer story filler to a degree that distract you as you progress. No Man’s Sky side content is point A to B with virtually no story

So you aren’t very distracted IMO

At least I wasn’t

[floral anchor]

I was waiting for a "But you can pay 100 nanites for him to boot immediately!" message.

[uncut harness]

That mission was sad

[floral anchor]

Oh I know

[uncut harness]

Also other games don’t usually have time gates

At least they don’t make it obvious that they do

Which is how it used to be in NMS. They just showed it finally I believe

[floral anchor]

This is another reason why I think Atlas is pushing you away.

He doesn't want you to learn how to make the Mind Arc.

I believe that it could be used to recall trace memories (being saved similar to a save file) from "Dreamers". Which would erase your believe that you are in an actual universe.

Think about it. The Mind Arc revived a dead NPC. It pulled its memory (files) from it's dead state and brought it back to life.

That leads me to believe that this Mind Arc could also bring up memory files from previous Dreamers if you found the correct addresses.

[floral anchor]

@uncut harness did I lose ya? Lol

[uncut harness]

No, I was just playing Battlefront 2, lol

(Sucking at it by the by).

Anyway, yeah I could see this as an option.

[floral anchor]

Ah okay lol and I'm not much good at those games either.

So yeah

[uncut harness]

Too much happens for me to be able to kill people. Same with Battlefield, and... uh... every other game ever made...

[floral anchor]

I was decent with CoD and Halo games

But Battlefield was way too much for me

[uncut harness]

Actually, on second thought... it may not be so much possible for the arc to attain memories actually.

The consciousness data of the dreamers was stored in an external satellite that was damaged

We managed to get people out but 2311T was already corrupt

[floral anchor]

Sure, the data was stored on the satellite, but that doesn't mean Atlas didn't have their actions/save data kept in-house as well.

Think of it like cookies on a website

Atlas could have had all their actions and files saved in case something happened.

[uncut harness]

Actually, I think this is practical. The dreamer(s) are running the game on W/ARE headsets, so the game is more than likely connected to the satellite in some way, shape or form, meaning it may be possible to get the Dreamers memorical data only in this way. So, maybe, actually...

But I don’t know much about technical stuff.

Speaking of which, I should write that story I was planning earlier. It’s a good practice plot. It’s about #2311T “waking up” from the W/ARE experiment just as they’re about to turn it off, leading the world into the acknowledgement of how their world is a simulation. The Foundation extracts 2311 for information and is met with the culmination of experiences found in NMS, and with this info they find like-minded examples of such figures like Nada and Polo in their own world, Earth, and begin to realize such protocols as the Travellers

[floral anchor]

It turns your concious actions into 1s and 0s. Your thoughts that control your in-game form. Every thought they had could have been stored as numerical values that can be put together to create a...maybe hologram or transcript of all the actions/thoughts they had.

[uncut harness]

I don’t know if that’s interesting but I like the idea

[floral anchor]

Seems neat

[uncut harness]

I think our iteration of the Traveller protocol would be the human race, or potentially some sub-sets of it.

[floral anchor]

Sounds like a neat story

[uncut harness]

I already wrote one on Artemis once. It was a cool experience.

Not as ambitious as this one, though, or nearly as interesting.

[floral anchor]

I see

[astral vapor]

guys

did you hear about HG's new game?

[floral anchor]

Not much of a spoiler thing tbh

[astral vapor]

ik

[floral anchor]

Only 2 guys working in it

[astral vapor]

not that one

this one

so hyped

[floral anchor]

Can you take that out?

The first image

[astral vapor]

Kk

If HG actually made that into a game Id be so happy

[uncut harness]

Are we talking about Big Chungus

[coarse zenith]

Maybe

[uncut harness]

Does fully commiting to atlas path affect me in any way? From lore standpoint at least.

[icy citrus]

you get the lore from the atlas path

[uncut harness]

Yeah, I'm learning things I shouldn't learn, and I'm slowly becoming a slave to atlas from what I gathered so far.

[icy citrus]

I don’t want to ruin anything, but I can say that following the path will not lock you out of anything else - you won’t miss other things because you follow it , or the other path

[uncut harness]

So, after the purge, I won't ever hear from null Apollo or Artemis again, right?

[floral anchor]

I don't know

I followed the path until 2 missions before the end

And now I'm going down the Artemis path

[floral anchor]

What's a corrupted Sentinel?

[mental socket]

hmm

it's a corrupted sentinel of course

[icy citrus]

Damnit

[uncut harness]

😏

[icy citrus]

Mines cooler

[mental socket]

found on reddit since I haven't taken a pic of one

[icy citrus]

Late

[mental socket]

I always just kill them before they get to do anything

And not really late. I saw one on the first day when they got added

😛

[icy citrus]

I pet them, and surf on them

I surfed one first day 😛

Wait, I’m lying

Not the first day

First time I saw one

[smoky oriole]

I was so scared of the corrupted ones they were shooting me like crazy as I blasted into some door - they are Nasty !

[uncut harness]

Nada's all hostile towards me now. Not liking it. 😦 It's not like I'm following atlas, just his path. And I certainly don't mind her/him/them being sentient.

[floral anchor]

@uncut harness what did you do?

[uncut harness]

finished atlas path, that's it I believe.

[floral anchor]

How did you finish it?

Did you go to another Galaxy, or refuse him?

[uncut harness]

the atlas path follows into other galaxies

[floral anchor]

I'm not a follower of Atlas

So once I get all of the seeds, I'll refuse him.

[uncut harness]

the storyline keeps going when you switch galaxies

[floral anchor]

Oh I know

But I'd rather get to the center

I don't like Atlas

[uncut harness]

I didn't know I could move to another galaxy at the end

I went to the center 10 times to get to Eissentam

I mean I didn't know back then

[floral anchor]

I see

[uncut harness]

Atlas ends when you birth a new star.

[onyx prairie]

I like the terrain color on that corrupted sentinel pic above... I really miss the bigger variety of more alien colors.

[peak prairie]

Visions added a bunch

[onyx prairie]

Visions added 2 additional grass colors, and 1 more sky color

[mental socket]

just wait for 2019

it's going to be amazing

[coarse zenith]

Or so we hope

[mental socket]

pretty sure it will

[peak prairie]

Has anyone pondered on the possibility that the reason that Atlas can't figure out why it was left behind might be because its simulation is pretty crappy for simulating real life?

[onyx prairie]

I dunno, it does a great job with bipedal cows and hopping blobs, they look just like in real life

[peak prairie]

I mean. There's zero scarcity in the universe, really.
If they were in-universe they could simply leave a teleporter and visit whenever...

Entire station sized ships can warp around, so they could have loaded it onto one.

[peak prairie]

Unless they simply exploded

[hearty scarab]

was in here, thinking it was #no-mans-sky

[hasty yarrow]

ok so im going through the atlas storyline and ive passed the part where you put the seeds in all of the terminals and you make a star seed. Afterwards i did it again and hit a dead end. Anyone know how to progress?

[onyx prairie]

Hit a dead-end how? The star seed is basically the end of that mission (although you can repeat the ending multiple times).

[hasty yarrow]

oh ok

it was very anti climatic

[onyx prairie]

yeah, it'd be nicer if you could, say, visit your star

[icy citrus]

You can

After you do the starseed, it gives a waypoint to a black hole- that leads to your star

[icy citrus]

Correct, you don’t really create one - it just guides you to an undiscovered one

[glacial talon]

I found a haunted emeril planet

[mental socket]

is there a way to get the nms warping animation without ship

I'd like to do some edits

[uncut harness]

I dont think spoilers is right the right place for this @mental socket

Might wanna try Modding

[mental socket]

whoops

wrong chat

[peak prairie]

If you mod your ship to have no model, probably

Or no textures or something

If you manage that, it'd probably work out so you'd have a permanent screenshot ship

Might break other ships, though

Hypothetical solution to that would be to mod in unique "parts" to your specific ship

[mental socket]

I already did the thingy

[peak prairie]

RIP beaconbro

[dark arrow]

?

[peak prairie]

The scientist questline

[peak prairie]

Scientist is lonely, so makes the beacon sentient

Then uh, bad end

[dark arrow]

Oof

[honest hound]

Guys can you reset your galaxy in last Atlas interface multiple times? If so how to get to that terminal for second time?

[honest hound]

Or how to change your current galaxy?

[icy citrus]

You only get one shot at the last interface that allows you to choose which type of galaxy you want to go to- after that you need to travel to the galactic core

[honest hound]

So when I reach galaxy core I can switch again to different galaxy?

[icy citrus]

Yes, but it will be in numerical order

Just go to the next

[honest hound]

So since I am at 3 I will go to 4

[icy citrus]

Correct

[honest hound]

Thanks:)

To reach center I just need to get correct course I galaxy map or its better to use black holes provided from Nada from anomaly station?

[calm geyser]

Am I going to need to turn in all of the atlas seeds or do I just continually upgrade to the last one I will get and turn in that one. Trying to plan.

[twin rapids]

i think u only turn in the last one

[calm geyser]

thanks @twin rapids

[ember fox]

whats the difference between the 2 choices at the purge quest at the end

[icy citrus]

@ember fox one lets you choose a new galaxy to goto, one lets you stay

[ember fox]

which one is better?

[uncut harness]

Staying is the popular choice.

[icy citrus]

Refuse stays, reset chooses galaxy type

[uncut harness]

Each galaxy spawns more of a planet type.

[icy citrus]

https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/The_Purge

[uncut harness]

Moving to a new galaxy is basically New Game Plus.

[onyx prairie]

Staying is more popular for people who want to play more multiplayer. Most people are still in Euclid, the first galaxy.

[ember fox]

do you get anything new if you do the same thing again if you reset it?

[uncut harness]

Nope

[icy citrus]

You only get the story and option once - this is your only chance

[ember fox]

thats dumb

[icy citrus]

After that, if you want to switch galaxies for some reason you will need to reach the galactic core

[ember fox]

ok, thanks

[twin rapids]

artemis path ends up with atlas path?

[versed jackal]

No you do not

[glacial talon]

Whats technically better, the first galaxy or a "new" one

[versed jackal]

Neither is "better", its personal preference

first galaxy has more players just for being the first

some galaxies have slightly different biome chances

Lush galaxies(green orb) have more lush planets and less dead in yellow systems, chance of exotic in yellow
Abandoned galaxies(blue orb) have more dead planets and less lush in yellow systems, chance of exotic in yellow
Vicious galaxies(red orb) have more extreme planets in all systems
Balanced galaxies(white orb) are similar to the default

[glacial talon]

Hmm

[calm geyser]

hey if I complete this quest about the 16 minutes I still can complete the seed turn in right?

[icy citrus]

Yes

[rough copper]

https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Datamining#Base_Building_Parts

[uncut harness]

@bitter hound

[rough copper]

Some sort of base automation is likely coming

[uncut harness]

Even if only half of the datamined stuff makes it into game, it's gunna change things up so much.

[icy citrus]

For one, all my bases will be powerless

Lol

[uncut harness]

From what I gather some sort of animal farming is coming

[violet narwhal]

I wouldn't really say any of that suggests automation, per se... More like simple powered stuff.

[uncut harness]

I guess people asked for that?

woo!

[rough copper]

If you look closely at some of the basic building components, they already have solar panels attached, they might have power :p

[icy citrus]

I have zero desire to have to manage a power source

[rough copper]

There are also components elsewhere in the files for things like "hoppers" that store specific resources

[uncut harness]

One of the modders in #nms-modding showed screens of the electric fence along with the electric power sources.

Well it would only make sense

[violet narwhal]

If it's solar, there may not be much management.

[rough copper]

I just didn't put them on there for some reason

[uncut harness]

Solar, wind and something else that I can't remember.

[icy citrus]

Blob

[uncut harness]

I'm a Vy'keen! Help me with these pirates!!

I'm a Gek! Help me with these pirates!!

The pilot gestures frantically. Their ship seems damaged, and there are hostile signals approaching on the subspace radar...

Help the trader

Leave them to their fate

DNT_EXP_TRADER_OFFLOAD_LANG_3

I'm a Korvax! Want to buy these specific items?

Excited to see another pilot, the trader offers me one of their collection of rare and precious items.

TRA_TRADER_OFFLOAD_OPT_A Buy Gek Relic

TRA_TRADER_OFFLOAD_OPT_B Buy GekNip

TRA_TRADER_OFFLOAD_OPT_C Buy Gek Charm```

This cool

also research station?

[violet narwhal]

Blobs hopping in hamster wheel type things to power your base?

[uncut harness]

what purpose?

Maybe we find npc ships landed normally where we would land on the ground

[icy citrus]

Sweet

[rough copper]

to find the last creatures on a planet

[icy citrus]

Space interactions

[uncut harness]

That would be great tbh. There's always that one fucking animal.

[violet narwhal]

Yup

[pseudo frost]

Would be nice to have mobile npcs

[uncut harness]

Maybe in the future.

[timid mist]

Could just be something as simple as "likes to dwell in caves" in a text box

[uncut harness]

Actually relieve adventures your frigates have

FLEET_WORMHOLE_2 Success, %CAP_RACE%! The wormhole has brought you directly to us! And without any of the terrifying consequences some of our engineers predicted! The operation appears to have used up the energy fluctuations, but all is otherwise well.

FLEET_WORMHOLE_3 Ah %CAP_RACE%! For a moment we thought we had lost you: the scanner indicated you had travelled some way into a different timeline. But our engineers were able to recover the signal, and here you are! The energy field has vanished, but all other readings are nominal.```

like raider bases etc

[rough copper]

And I think one of the coolest things about power generation is that different planet biomes would have different primary power sources, so building on specific planet types will make you have to think of different factors

[uncut harness]

also recalibrate starship visuals?

[icy citrus]

Pass

[pseudo frost]

Pass

[uncut harness]

That certainly suggests more than just colors

[pseudo frost]

No more grinding

Or mining

[rough copper]

It worked well in subnautica 🤷

[pseudo frost]

Subnautica is different tho

[rough copper]

It is??

😛

[pseudo frost]

Fully designed levels

In that

But this isn't place for it anyways

[rough copper]

"Alright guys, let's move this conversation to #SubnauticavsNMS"

[pseudo frost]

Yeah it's called #other-games

[uncut harness]

#504835268134830080

[rough copper]

But if NMS is the primary topic I think it would belong here. Sometimes this discord feels like a government bureaucracy lol

[timid mist]

Seems a bit extreme lol

Not hard to click a chat

[uncut harness]

UI_SPEC_LASER_01_DESC An exclusive <STELLAR>Multi-Tool Mining Beam Override

wait what?

We getting upgrades through events now?

😩

[rough copper]

Well considering this conversation started in no-mans-sky, then moved here, and now is being suggested to move to other-games... yeah a little tedious

[uncut harness]

also Customized Mining Beam

I guess that makes sense

[icy citrus]

Multitool customizing is coming at some point

[uncut harness]

Nope just the Subnautica part of this convo is being asked to move to #other-games .

Since multi tool customization is about to become a thing

[rough copper]

Yeah that was added to the files pretty soon after NEXT came out

[icy citrus]

Shhhh

[uncut harness]

Not gonna lie. This site got me pretty excited.

I'm gunna have matching everything.

I'm gunna be color coded 😩

Yup, same 😄

[icy citrus]

Me too

[uncut harness]

My bases, exosuit and exocrafts currently match.

[icy citrus]

And one of these times I will find a system where the frigates are the color I want, and I will completely overhaul those

[rough copper]

I just realized I never put the "terrain restore" feature for the terrain manipulator in the datamining page... there will be a terrain restore feature for the terrain manipulator that restores modified terrain to it's original state

[icy citrus]

But will it update your cap for those also?

[rough copper]

I don't think it will increase the max, but it will be an easy way to get some of it back

[icy citrus]

Yeah, right now it only increases, a way to reset or lower would be nice

[uncut harness]

https://youtu.be/1AjKJjI92Ko

Someone created a mod that does that.

Never released it 🤷

[rough copper]

Yeah it's already working and everything, that's how the mod was made

[uncut harness]

I guess that video is exactly what we're gunna get.

[rough copper]

Probably

I just hope if they add these ship races... that they make exocraft/ship races in real time

[mental socket]

Exocraft races are real time tho @rough copper

Rest of the people need to interact with the race terminal while the person who is starting the race has the race menu open

then people can join and they will be placed on the starting line

atleast that's how it worked with me and my friends

But the race leaderboards should be global for anyone who stumbles upon the racetrack. Good feature to suggest

[rough copper]

lmao what?? I've never seen a video of this, I've only seen people doing old school "orb racing"

[mental socket]

@rough copper That's why you need to get a few friends in a session and record it yourself. I was so excited to see all the cool races but couldn't find anythinh other than atlas rises orb races

[steady ember]

Anything new coming?

[violet narwhal]

There hasn't been an update for about a month... And there hasn't been any new spoilers since... abyss I guess?

[rough copper]

I think soonest will be once this event finishes

[ember fox]

wow, can you really not get to the center ?

[coarse zenith]

You can

[ember fox]

how?

im 3000 lr away but its not an actual star i can warp to

[icy citrus]

Fuel your ship completely
Make sure you are using the map filter for the core
Double check you are at the last system on the path that it gives you
Follow the line in

Don’t try and use free camera

[wanton scarab]

Whats the point of reaching the centre?

[icy citrus]

You go to the next galaxy

[lone osprey]

reaching center is one way to listen to best song in game

[icy citrus]

Lol, also true - imo anyways

[real sapphire]

or complete artemis storyline by choosing "Reset Simulation"

for the next major update, i'm going to start a new save

to Eissentam

[real sapphire]

@gusty atlas megaexotic, a special class of planets that have oversized formations/plants

[gusty atlas]

Ah

[real sapphire]

sometimes the planet is filtered with weird colors

an example

[onyx prairie]

Just thought of something I meant to ask a long time ago... Did they change the long-distance "portal-flings" in the traveller story to send you to the same planet a couple times now? In Atlas Rises I got 3 different planets in all modes, but my Next save sent me to the same planet on my last two flings.

(I assume if that wasn't intended then it was a weird glitch... I'm pretty sure the game didn't randomly select the same one twice) 😉

[violet narwhal]

Maybe I haven't got to that part yet... But don't you only go through a portal once?

[onyx prairie]

well this is spoilers so... 3 times

[violet narwhal]

Ah

And you ended up at the same place each time?

[onyx prairie]

The 1st and 2nd were different... the 3rd sent me back to the 2nd. In Atlas Rises my saves always sent me to 3 different places. I was just wondering if that was an intentional change, or a glitch.

[violet narwhal]

Hmm

I guess you didn't go through the same portal for the second and third?

[onyx prairie]

That's possible but unlikely, but I don't remember for sure.

[violet narwhal]

I think the weekly events that gave you a portal to get to the event planet would just point you to a portal in your current system, so I ended up using the same portal in my home system several times for that.

I think they changed black holes to be deterministic instead of random each time, for NEXT... Possibly similar for mission portals?

[onyx prairie]

Yeah the weekly events always sent me to the portal on the first planet of my system. That actually screwed up in the first couple weeks, the portal wouldn't activate properly. I had to alternate between systems for the first 4 weeks when triggering the weekly event or else it would screw up.

They seemed to have fixed that in a patch

But yeah, I suppose that is possible, maybe that's how it is now and I was sent to different portals for 1 and 2 but the same one for 3

no idea, was just curious what other people's experiences were. I forgot to ask about it when it happened many months ago, and was just reminded of it tonight.

[icy citrus]

@cursive kernel the Artemis path let’s you choose the type

But it’s the next one in line - like if you pick the tranquil and go to Eissentam - that’s the first tranquil galaxy in the line

[cursive kernel]

Hm

[calm geyser]

birth a new star or walk away, can someone enlighten me on the consequences of these choices? I'm also at 5/16 data injections for the last bit or artemis path, wanting to play that out.

[lone osprey]

i'm pretty sure birthing a star & walking away results in the same outcome

[uncut harness]

it says you won't get the health upgrade

[calm geyser]

but it won't restart my game or put me in a different galaxy if I birth a new star right?

[lone osprey]

after the birthing star bit, you should just be able to view black hole systems in the galactic map, if i recall correctly

[onyx prairie]

Birthing a star is just the end of the Atlas Path story, do it to get the Star Seed blueprint and be able to see black holes on the map. As for the Artemis story, you can choose to not do the final restart to stay in the current galaxy.

[coarse zenith]

What about it

[pseudo frost]

Do ships in nms have rear spoilers?

[uncut harness]

🤔

[dense ivy]

Just stepped into a portal and now I need to revive artemis

How far am I from my base?

[violet narwhal]

You can just use a station teleporter to get back to your base.

[onyx prairie]

heh, yeah if it was the portal from the story, you're probably on the other side of the galaxy now. Do what Moo said

[cursive kernel]

Actually since it's a portal, you'd have to go back through to where you went into it and then just go into space and use the station terminus to return to your base

[onyx prairie]

Well no if it's the part of the main Artemis storyline where you go through the portal, it doesn't count as going through the portal. It basically flings you across the galaxy, and you have to go through a station teleporter to return home.

But normal portals, yes you're right of course.

[real sapphire]

a curious question, is it possible to find a Megaexotic planet in yellow stars in Eissentam?

[icy citrus]

Yes

[real sapphire]

cool, thanks

[icy citrus]

😃

[real sapphire]

the next save i gonna make will be going to Eissentam

[icy citrus]

Zoooooom

[real sapphire]

but that will be until next major patch

[icy citrus]

Hell, I took my creative there

[tulip tangle]

Near the end of the Main story, There is a choice among four colored spheres. Choosing the Green "Tranquil" Sphere will get you to Eissentam, which is formally Galaxy #10

@real sapphire you could go to eissentam anyway, its number ten in rotation so it should still be ahead of you

[mint spear]

Thanks! I've never finished the storyline, this might be a good reason to.

[iron idol]

Do galaxy's ever go out of rotation, as in stop existing?
And thanks for the explanation 😃

[empty swan]

How long would it take to go to eissentaum in creative mode with the freighter fully upgraded

[pseudo frost]

what this?

star wars in nms?

@solid nebula

[solid nebula]

what

OH SHIT

That's connected to my whole google account?

Just uhh

Ignore that. Nothing to do with NMS

[pseudo frost]

Oh what a let down . Thought we were finally getting star wars in nms

[solid nebula]

Star Wars also has nothing to do with that, but Discord devs are fucking weird so

[pseudo frost]

Heh lol

[nocturne zephyr]

so...was there an actual leak?

[uncut harness]

no

[cursive kernel]

I already knew about like the big spoilers but the purge is a nope from me

The portal part was kinda scary though

I thought I was going to die

[wind moat]

Yes, the sentinels were created to seek out and erase anomalies, but they have gone rogue before, and they now serve to maintain the worlds.

[cursive kernel]

@twilit hare aren't they connected? Like the ending of the Artemis questline leads to the end of the atlas path?

[twilit hare]

i don't know i always think artemis is more like sequel to atlas path

[uncut harness]

I don't appreciate the travelers much because it's a duplication of a person who thought it to be smart to leave a god-like figure such as the ATLAS to its own creation with no observation despite it harnessing such an extreme amount of power...

anomalies were shoehorned. we spoke with most of them (unless 2311T is the only one with influence into the simulation). they all had mostly sad stories

so therefore I appreciate them the most out of any general species

[cursive kernel]

But aren't we also technically travellers

[twilit hare]

i want more lore

[uncut harness]

Not the same travelers we used to be

[cursive kernel]

-null- said something about the atlas abandoned him and then the atlas called to us

[uncut harness]

We’re a subset of the traveler protocol, aka the dreamers, but not of the same vein of the travelers around us that are mostly organic and not accompanied by fish bowl helmets as in our case (because you’d see humans if there was no suit).

Even when we modify our looks we are still Dreamers. So that means pre NEXT we weren’t

The only reason the game still calls us a Traveler is for two reasons:

1. we are still anomalies to the simulation just like the non-dreamers
2. we aren’t even supposed to be there so the game just keeps calling us travelers

but that’s just my deduction

[uncut harness]

Aren't we the same entity, but from different timelines or something like that? Pretty sure we're the same imprint. The brain scan Atlas requested. But now since the boundaries are falling apart, we're able to interact with each other.

Or is it "them" so to speak, and we're just fuck knows what.

[iron idol]

Is there an end to the Space anomaly quest line? or does polo keep asking for new data?

[onyx prairie]

It eventually ends.

You can still go to him after, and he'll try to sell you tech upgrades for lots of $. Probably not worth it though. Was different pre-Next when upgrades were only blueprints, that could help you get missing ones. Now that most are modules, and they're more common in shops, better to just buy exactly what ya want.

[uncut harness]

Polos quest ends on rather depressing note, but ain't that the thing with nms universe in general, I guess.

[onyx prairie]

Yeah everything is kinda a downer. All the base specialists, etc.

[uncut harness]

Back during WT, I theorized we would have the ability to play a side story involving finding the remnants of all twelve dreamers inside the simulation. I still think that would have been cool

Obviously we play as some incarnation of them, all jumbled together. I just think a story to the caliber of Dreams of the Deep would have been a neat way to continue WT S2's storyline in a different way

[icy citrus]

I was for sure we would see reference to the dreamers at least

[uncut harness]

we see how that turned out. the most acknowledgement they get is on the character customization menu

[icy citrus]

Yep

[uncut harness]

since we play as versions of them mixed and matched, maybe tracing signals across the game's universe to graves of the first versions of the Dreamers could have been a little side plot you could partake in and unlock specific cosmetics otherwise inaccessible. like, finding "T-O-B-_Y," or "PHIL_LIP."

just faint traces of them. code still left in from when they intruded (though they were taken out, so you can't speak to them anymore).

but you never find 2311T! what a twist

[icy citrus]

What could have been 😢

[uncut harness]

WTS3 will clear this up.

😩

I really want S3 to be about 2311T waking up from the sim

Elizabeth Leighton's death shockwaved what remained of Atlas Foundation, causing significant loss of employment and an imminent, looming shutdown on both their subsidiary companies' projects. When 2311 wakes up from the W/ARE lab, in which it has been staying for quite a while at this point inside of its exosuit, it accidentally sets upon the anomalies that will plague this simulation, leading to this simulations' own demise.

We work with the remnants of the Atlas Foundation under the new CEO Sophia Dubois and its adjoining companies to keep the anomalies a secret to the outside world and bud into No Man's Sky in a new community research mission in which we work with Nada and Polo (who are unsure of our actions at this rate) to understand what may happen to us, as a model of what may come

Hello Games obliges and offers tiered rewards for people who work together to observe the rampancy that will befall our own world (in the spirit of what Community Research missions are).

Also, there's still room for W/ARE to be under significant scrutiny for the still-unexplained explosion at the Myriad Sublocation. Maybe their ill-will continues in the next season.

Maybe they insert their own employees into No Man's Sky to intentionally be some type of antagonistic force and prevent us from finding something out? Just spitballing at this moment.

Oh, IDEA!

W/ARE's malice towards the players unraveling what is happening to the outside world is going to lead to "Glassed figures" encroaching upon the sim, leaving us with what we theorized about when the game stated we would fight "humanoid figures" during Season Two. The World of Glass begins to collide with the worlds of No Man's Sky and at the same time with us, maybe even snowballing into an encounter with an alternate version of a deceased Elizabeth Leighton?

[onyx prairie]

so, why aren't you working at A&S yet? 😉

[uncut harness]

that would be cool

but never gonna happen because they're like six levels above me in writing ARGs

[onyx prairie]

If they do return to the ARG I hope they incorporate a ton of in-game activity. It would still need to be partly real-world, I mean the practical point of it is basically advertising. But during WT season 2 I kept wanting more of that puzzle / treasure-hunt type stuff in the game.

Some of your ideas above would really work well for that. Like the hunt for remnants of the dreamers.

[uncut harness]

Also, to continue what I said earlier, they could use the whole "W/ARE's malice against our revelations" and "glassed figures" for a repurposed SATCOM site, where we can see the status of appropriately twelve employees directly inside the sim portraying these mirrored versions of the Dreamers. In it, they fight against us, and each step in the Community Mission has us working both in SATCOM/additional sites and fighting their prowess in the game world. They may even keep 2311T inside their facility to "ask questions," when in reality they are bombarding them for knowledge in how to succeed in the No Man's Sky universe.

[onyx prairie]

That could be very cool.

[uncut harness]

The statuses of these "Mirrored Dreamers" are marked on the SATCOM site and we retaliate against them in NMS. So one facet of working against them would be solving puzzles that unlock us further into the secrecies of the company to learn how to appropriately disconnect them, and, simultaneously, stopping them from continuing further in their escapades in the game world, if that makes any sense.

Okay, enough of this fever dream. I think I'm just bored and craving whatever happens next with this game

[uncut harness]

Yo, @versed jackal, is there any chance you have logs from "Dreams of the Deep?"

[violet narwhal]

@uncut harness ^

[uncut harness]

Fucking clutch, dude. Thanks!

If I use this for anything, I'll give you credit for supplying it to me. I have a doc for NMS that may be updated with a walkthrough for the Abyss storyline content.

[mental socket]

any news on updates and stuff?

[uncut harness]

Naw

[soft sonnet]

what exactly triggers the artemis quest, cause it hasn't started for me yet

[mighty rampart]

I think it triggers after a while, while doing awakenings quest

hasn't started for me yet

oh wait I think it starts after going to a couple more systems

[iron idol]

I went to eisentamm before collapsing my two bases. I guess I can't get those materials back?

[icy citrus]

Nope

😢

[peak prairie]

Unless you do the full loop

[iron idol]

I did just figure out that my 0-9 vaults still contain their loot, so at least I got my Quantum processors back 😄

[onyx prairie]

I wonder if a full loop would actually restore your bases. I'm sure they're removed from your save file, but they theoretically still exist if you uploaded them. They might redownload for you if you wrapped around (or found some other way) back to the same galaxy again. I don't know of anyone testing that.

[timid mist]

You can't go to a previous galaxy without save editing, or for events. But events are limited to the system you're in anyways.

[violet narwhal]

If you just joined another player who is in Euclid (most are), and flew/portalled to your base..?

[onyx prairie]

Yeah that's gotta be the easiest way to test it.

Zoid: I thought it wrapped around after 255. I think it keeps naming successive galaxies differently (or used to), but they're actually the originals?

[iron idol]

@violet narwhal I tried that, but when I joined someone in Euclid I didn't have any teleport options in a Star station. (The system my base is/was located in was on the other side of the galaxy, so I couldnt fly there to check)

[violet narwhal]

Hmm

[onyx prairie]

Too bad you didn't know your address

[violet narwhal]

Probably couldn't portal either...

[onyx prairie]

Well, your friend could portal there first, and then you join

[violet narwhal]

Ah, yeah

[iron idol]

Didn't think of that, I just joined a random player

[violet narwhal]

I wonder if it does the "you're at the other side of a portal" thing preventing teleport when you join someone in a different galaxy.

[sour token]

im doing the atlas path and i got made the star seed and at the station chose "birth a new star" but i dont know what to do now

welp i guess it was glitched because its wants a heart of the sun again and i already have the star seed, what do i do?

[onyx prairie]

The end of the Atlas Path is birthing the star and getting the Star Seed blueprint. After that it does tend to just repeat the ending You've finished and got the reward, so nothing to worry about. :}

[sour token]

ah ok

thanks!

[cursive kernel]

How does one continue the atlas path anywho

[sour token]

i thought it would take me to a new galaxy or something

[onyx prairie]

nope, that's the other storyline

@cursive kernel continue it?

[cursive kernel]

Yeah it just says "explore the galaxy"

[onyx prairie]

Ahh, yeah, that's basically it. Funny HG chose to leave that there. Maybe they have ideas for expanding it in the future?

[cursive kernel]

Then what's the nonsense about star seeds and birthing a new star? How do I do that

From the atlas stations?

[onyx prairie]

Oh, you're saying didn't finish the path, but it shows the final mission log? Have you tried selecting that mission, and going into the galactic map. That's fixed it for me in the past - it located the next closest station to go to.

[cursive kernel]

It locates the station, it just says explore the galaxy still

[onyx prairie]

oh, well go to the station :}

[cursive kernel]

Is it long though

Like the questline

[onyx prairie]

not really, not like the main storyline.

[wanton lark]

Went through the wiki. Why am I crying for a machine right now

[cursive kernel]

How can the atlas be real if we aren't real

[wanton lark]

HE DOESN'T WANT TO DIE ALONE

Why my dude Apollo dying

[wanton lark]

WHY IS THIS SO DEPRESSING

GOD DANGIT ARTEMIS PATH WHY

I DON'T WANT THE GLYPHS ANYMORE

[rough copper]

https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Datamining Can we get a sticky on this page?

[visual mirage]

Done @rough copper

[iron idol]

Looks like survival mode will be more survival (if they are going to implement this).

UI_SPEC_HELMET_03_NAME AQUATIC LIFEFORM MASK This sounds like the dreams of the deep might have a follow up 😄

[rough copper]

Maybe, but they actually took that out of the files for some reason after i put it on the page

[pseudo frost]

Lol

[violet narwhal]

Yeah they took a load of stuff out an update or so after it went in...

Probably watching us heh

[iron idol]

Perhaps I now can finally launch my own space-branded restaurant chain!

[pseudo frost]

Probably decided not to add in after community reaction to update content?

[rough copper]

Not sure, because they left all the other unimplemented stuff in the files lol

[violet narwhal]

Or not to add strings for stuff not in there, after reactions to things people shouldn't know about yet...

[rough copper]

Yeah they definitely picked up on us finding the stuff. but at the same time it seems like they put it there on purpose, to be found, because they definitely have added a shit ton of new stuff in the past without any evidence of it in the files beforehand.

[soft sonnet]

so i got a blueprint for something from an atlas station (forgot what its called but it needs 100 chromatic metal I think), what do i do with it once I mkae it

[violet narwhal]

Could just be a sign of their uh.. haphazard development system...

Something

Well... You do something with it.

[rough copper]

oh for sure

[soft sonnet]

but what

[rough copper]

Read the description of the item, it will tell you what it's for..

Go to the next atlas station, you will understand what it's for

[soft sonnet]

it doesn't, it just says
"Atlas Seed containing zonally-shifted quasi-stellar substrate. Warning: do not allow matrix to commune with this dimensional space"

[rough copper]

Just keep following the atlas path, you'll get more blueprints, and things will become clear

[soft sonnet]

I don't really get what the last part means, but its seeming like if that thing touches reality itself, it like, explodes or smth

[rough copper]

it's flavor text, it means nothing in terms of gameplay

[soft sonnet]

ik, just seems that way

[rough copper]

since we're in spoilers.. there are ten of these things you can craft from the atlas path

each one requires the previous one + 100 of some resource

[soft sonnet]

so I just make it and keep it in a safe place for later I guess?

[rough copper]

they all have weird descriptions that are flavor text

you don't have to make any of them until you've acquired all ten blueprints if you don't want to

just takes up inventory space until you can build all of them

[soft sonnet]

eh, ill make them on the way

otherwise it'll be an annoying grind at the end

do it gradually

[rough copper]

yeah spread the grind lol

[soft sonnet]

1,000 units, man people are cheap for something that has to do with the atlas, which from what I can tell is basically god itself

smh

[uncut harness]

yeah but they dont know

[soft sonnet]

how would people not know about the atlas

theres space stations for it, theres literally rooms in actual space station dedicated to it

its got to at least be very common campfire stuff

[uncut harness]

well sure they know about the atlas

but they have never personally interacted with the atlas

[soft sonnet]

presumably at least

[uncut harness]

and the atlas has never told them about this godly orb which does nothing

the atlas has mostly interacted with travelers and anomalies

Even if we play as gek or whatever

WE are still anomalies

[soft sonnet]

I play as a korvak lol

[uncut harness]

ok

still

[soft sonnet]

nms plot making me do a heccin thonk

[rough copper]

you aren't literally a korvax though, from the game "The module applies advanced holographic techniques to recalibrate the light around the user, allowing them to adopt whatever appearance they desire."

[uncut harness]

oh never noticed that

that's cool

[soft sonnet]

shhh

[uncut harness]

Oh nice catch.

Then I wanna be a cheesy puff.

[violet narwhal]

It'd be more strange for some machine in a station to change you into a completely different species or even type of lifeform...

[mighty rampart]

just saw that datamining post and lol imagine if we had cooking in NMS

would be so out of place

GekMilk

is that what I think it is

[uncut harness]

All depends on what else they have planned, they might not even go forward with the idea of food.

[mighty rampart]

I know, I'm pretty sure it's not about cooking but maybe some variants to geknip

[uncut harness]

There's files/items in the game that allow you to place a protective fence around your base.

Why they haven't let us use them yet is unknown.

[mighty rampart]

probably wasn't needed? I don't see the point of it

animals stop attacking you when you're on the base area

[uncut harness]

Exactly but for them to put them into the game means they thought that we might need them.

Then I guess something changed and we don't need them.

[mighty rampart]

yea tbh I think all those foodstuffs might be trade items

No Man's Harvest

[uncut harness]

hahaha

[mighty rampart]

ooh they also had an idea of having a scanner room like in subnautica

[violet narwhal]

The thing for finding unscanned animals?

[mighty rampart]

Ya

Though in subnautica it scans for minerals and other stuff

[violet narwhal]

I don't remember that being obviously a room?

[mighty rampart]

It sounds like it was gonna be a room

[soft sonnet]

sn scanner room scans for resources, wrecks and fragments, and even leviathans

[iron idol]

Subnautica has this very nice scanner room. If you get a chip, you can see the locations of minerals you have set your scanner to. (In NMS that would mean you wouldnt need to use your scanner multi-tool continuously

[rough copper]

The fence/base stuff was the most recently added in the files

[uncut harness]

Wait

Just noticed something

Freighter construction components?

Now that's some interesting implications right there.

[soft sonnet]

ok so I have devised a plan, for this first playthrough im going to comply to the atlas, then Ill do another playthrough but deny everything

[mighty rampart]

Denying is impossible resistance is futile ALL HAIL THE ATLAS

[soft sonnet]

we'll see about that

[iron idol]

Any new news yet?

[violet narwhal]

No

[soft sonnet]

when I went into the atlas station, due to the giant red glowing ball, I couldnt get "Infraradiant" (half-life 2 episode 1 track) out of my head, reminded me a lot of the citadel core from hl2ep1

[iron idol]

Did the Gek also go through morphological changes when the Korvax dumped a bunch of nanites in the Gek Gene-pool?

[icy citrus]

Nothing mentioned besides the attitude change

[cursive kernel]

@uncut harness it's more "hey look it's the matrix"

[uncut harness]

Yeah ok

But it is still sad

[empty osprey]

Anything cool datamined from the next patch?

[cursive kernel]

Or anything at all?

[iron idol]

A bunch of foodstuffs have been datamined and some freighter/starship customization stuff

but there is no telling if that will be in the next patch

[cursive kernel]

What's the food for?

Hey

If it's a survival only thing that's cool

Because nobody plays it tbh

[iron idol]

I play survival

😛

[nocturne zephyr]

spoiler: They're going to remove space and all the planets, and the new objective will be to sit on a couch on the only spacestation that exists and eat the new food in the datamined files. if you eat all the food, you go to the next galaxy where you find another differently colored procedurally generated couch.

[visual mirage]

No Space's Couch.

[nocturne zephyr]

haha.

[iron idol]

No man's dinner

[wanton lark]

Did they really try a Lovecraftian feel to the Abyss storyline

[mighty rampart]

they tried

[icy citrus]

Huh

[iron idol]

Do the NMS Devs have a roadmap somewhere or a forum they communicate on?

[violet narwhal]

No... https://www.nomanssky.com/news/ is about all...

[iron idol]

😦 Do I keep track of their Twitter, but it seems they mostly just retweet community posts

[violet narwhal]

A bot reposts them somewhere here too, but I don't remember seeing any lately... And yes, not usually anything we don't already know.

[uncut harness]

Only reason the world of glass was accessed by Artemis is because they died from what i know

The portal network malfunctioned and killed them in the process which is why there’s a grave of them I believe

[coarse zenith]

Perhaps

[uncut harness]

Was speaking about something people were talking about in the main channel

[soft sonnet]

holy fuck thats a lot of black holes

[mighty rampart]

ikr feels too unrealistic

but then again

[ivory swan]

NMS black holes aren’t black holes, they’re a lot more like worm holes.

[soft sonnet]

I think everyone knows that so

[chrome eagle]

so i'm right at the edge of the center of Euclid, a little over 1k LY out, and i'm aware of what happens when you actually get there. Is there any big differences between the different galaxies? or just higher probability of X type of planets

[icy citrus]

That's the big difference

https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Galaxy

[chrome eagle]

ok, so, probably going to make a base there, and go back and do the questlines, while in Euclid, then go back and make the jump

[icy citrus]

Also, when you make the transfer, all your active tech gets damaged - you can avoid some of that by stocking up materials for repair beforehand, and taking a junker ship with no extra tech on board

It just affects your suit, tool and active starship

[chrome eagle]

makes sense, thanks for the heads up

[icy citrus]

👍

[soft sonnet]

"largest named object"

what about the universe

[violet narwhal]

That doesn't have a name?

[sharp lion]

^

[soft sonnet]

"The Universe"

thats the name

[sharp lion]

The galaxies are named

Euclid etc

But not the Universe

[soft sonnet]

its referred to as the universe so

[cursive kernel]

@tight ore you did have a choice to not leave Euclid in the Artemis questline, but you could have jumped to Eissentam (lush planet galaxy)

[tight ore]

I could but I didn’t

[soft sonnet]

no mans sky stole the story of super mario galaxy
you go to the center and then everything resets

in a new galaxy

[uncut harness]

hey so I met the atlas, and I chose Submit. Would anything different happen if I chose Scream or Rejoice?

[icy citrus]

No, more of a personal choice - the atlas is all powerful in the sim

[iron idol]

I do hope somewhere down the line we get an info graphic about how many people have screamed against Atlas

[timid mist]

that'd be pretty great tbh

[hoary panther]

Once I get to the core, the game resets, right?

[onyx prairie]

If you get to the core directly by ship, it just resets you to the next galaxy. If you get there by following the main story, at the final encounter you are given choices: first a chance to refuse the reset or accept it, and if you accept you get to choose the nature of your new galaxy.

[merry sky]

I got up to the final atlas quest where I was to screem out 3 times then submit, in order to get to a galaxy of my choice, but I did none of that so am I doomed to be stuck in Euclid, or to have to get to the core and reach eisentaum after going through about 9 or 10 universes this way? that sucks!!

I would like there to be a way to reset the atlas quest please!!

is there any way I can get to eisentaum directly via the Atlas quest, after failing it the first time around? can the Atlas quest be reset in any way?

[onyx prairie]

Unfortunately, if you refuse the Atlas there, you gotta move ahead the long way

I think you can get to another galaxy by joining a friend's game who's already there? Not sure.

[icy citrus]

The atlas quest doesn't give you the choice to switch

It's the other

[soft sonnet]

@uncut harness when I got to the part where you ask a navigator and hes like "yeah those stars dont exist"
it was a real "oh shit" moment for me

[peak prairie]

@soft sonnet I can see a potential for facets of the whole atlas devoted to each universe instance

...and each facet having different parameters, which leads to the varying universe setups

...the atlas testing itself along with us 🤔

[soft sonnet]

I mean, if I were god itself, id like to poke around and see what I can do

[uncut harness]

Well atlas is a machine afterall. Driven by directive. To simulate universe.

[soft sonnet]

it does seem to have at least a basic grasp of consciousness

and as far as ive experienced, shown a bit of feeling, and passion for its creation

[uncut harness]

It most certainly is sentient, since it asked for the mind scan of its creator, I think? After humanity fucked off into space, and abandoned Atlas on Earth I presume. And now something's wrong. On the outside. Atlas is hopeless, helpless, terrified, and can't help itself with 16 minutes left to live.

But I don't think it "pokes around" so to speak.

Universes differ, but that's Atlas trying to save itself, from what I gathered.

Different simulations, tweaked in different ways to stop what's wrong. It doesn't work.

Also is The Traveller, are we, that scan? Was that ever confirmed?

[uncut harness]

yes

"The Travellers are born, spun from the the corrupted memory of its Creator. They are seeded to every universe, to become what the circumstances might make them."

Great, thanks. 😄

[peak prairie]

Trying to understand what circumstances led to the creator leaving?

Would be funny if HG read this channel for ideas

[uncut harness]

If I remember correctly, it was a gravitational anomaly. And I think the game briefly mentions a black hole at some point, but I’m not 100% sure.

[narrow heart]

Yeah, there's a black hole mentioned, you can even find one after going to the atlas I believe, but I'm not 100% sure since I found this out from the media.

[soft sonnet]

in the atlas quest a whole bunch of black holes appear

I haven't figured out if theres a pattern to them

they seem to be completely random

[scenic pewter]

You mean the universe being a simulation, and everything that doesn’t make sense is because it’s full of bugs?

Bit of an eyeroll, there, IMO

Call me Cypher enjoying his steak

And not being afraid to call the kitchen and ask for better steak

[coarse zenith]

Eesh

Then dont play the game kiddo

[scenic pewter]

I choose to focus on certain aspects of it and ignore others

[soft sonnet]

ooh I came up with a name for my "atlas world" I made up
"The Edge of Reality"
cause its like, right between the reality the atlas created, and the reality it was created in

[timid mist]

Wow cypher is so brave

[scenic pewter]

I just think “but it was all a dream” is a too-clever copout that cheapens everything else about a story

[timid mist]

the entire story is that it's a simulation though

[scenic pewter]

I’m here to fly spaceships and explore weird planets. If the story wants to turn around and say “lol it was all fake, none of it matters”, that annoys me a little bit

I know I’m playing a video game, but I’m trying to suspend disbelief and be Han Solo for a few hours

[crisp fern]

it's not because the simulation is meant to be an accurate reflection of reality itself, which in this context seems to itself be a simulation, and in some way, simulating simulations seems to create distortions, hence some of what we see

E.g. Sentinels simply appearing without any hint of an origin

The simulation explanation isn't meant to cover for technical issues, tho some folks may treat it that way

[scenic pewter]

Not because a video game needs arbitrary faceless bad guys, so here’s a horde of evil robots

See what I mean? I don’t WANT to think in those terms

But the story is forcing me into it

[crisp fern]

It's not tho, you're thinking simulation == video game, but it means a different thing in this context.

Do you play Assassin's Creed at all?

[scenic pewter]

No

I have a rough idea what the plot is like though

I think I know where you and the designers are going

Plato’s Cave and all that

Meditations on identity and the nature of reality

It’s why I brought up Cypher earlier, I just want to fly my spaceship

Sell circuit boards

Try not to get eaten by spider squids

Eat my steak, even if it isn’t real

[crisp fern]

well i mean NMS is supposed to be a predictive simulation, which it can only be by being an accurate sim of reality, but if it's capable of predicting reality then the idea is that reality itself must be a simulation, and thus whatever Real™ Reality is remains elusive

as such the simulation you play in may as well be as real as the "reality" that gave way to it, since there's no clear indication of just what reality is

[soft sonnet]

thats pretty depressing tbh

[crisp fern]

?

[soft sonnet]

the fact that theres no way to tell what reality is or if what we call reality even is reality

[scenic pewter]

Try the steak, it’s really good this week

[soft sonnet]

I want steak

but I dont have steak

and im sad

[scenic pewter]

Try mordite and carbon in a refiner

It’s worth a shot anyway

[soft sonnet]

I dont have mordite because I rarely bother killing creatures, especially due to sentinels

[scenic pewter]

I have something of a grudge against creatures

My first planet had a lot of really aggressive ones

Like these quick little spider squid things

I tend to shoot first and scan afterwards

I think I must have a couple of thousand mordite stored

[soft sonnet]

I never really saw the point in killing them apart from missions that aren't even mandatory

if a creatures attacks you you can just run away

you're way faster than them anyway

[scenic pewter]

I play on survival, the little bastards have cost me a few good inventory loads

[soft sonnet]

survival sucks

[scenic pewter]

So I tooled up my shields and boltcaster and I’m loaded for space bear

[soft sonnet]

normal is good
survival sucks
permadeath is for crazy people
creative is fun

[scenic pewter]

I started on normal

My story quest glitched out

[soft sonnet]

glitched how

[scenic pewter]

Awakenings is gone

No sign of artemis

[soft sonnet]

I got the same thing, but theres good news

you can do it again when you enter a new galaxy

which is why im headed to the center

[scenic pewter]

And yes, I know it’s supposed to go away briefly and come back when you warp

Interesting

[soft sonnet]

and if going to a new galaxy doesn't work

ill just start a new game (not deleting this one though)

[scenic pewter]

I have about twice the time on my survival save now

I’ve adapted

And my brother also plays survival, so when he’s on I get to play with him

[wet scarab]

@soft sonnet The psychology is that if what we think is reality isn't reality, then does what "reality" is really matter?

For me, this leads to the conclusion that nothing is fiction, for thought itself is creation.

[soft sonnet]

thats the depressing part

we cant tell if reality is actually reality

[wet scarab]

To each his own. I find it elating.

There's no telling either way. Your senses can't be trusted.

[scenic pewter]

I would like what I see and do to matter.

The idea that it doesn’t is disturbing.

[wet scarab]

Perhaps I've considered it too deeply for the idea to phase me. So I can't speak for others. At this rate I don't exactly see what I do as mattering even if by some chance everything is "real". Whatever that might mean.

Just have fun. That's my philosophy.

[peak prairie]

Absurdism is fun

A lot more fun than nihilism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism

[real sapphire]

@inland temple i tried before, it probably wouldn't work

[inland temple]

ok

[wild pendant]

...don't know why but i feel like a big update is coming

i feel like we will be able to owen multiple freighters or something

or there will be a new campaighn for dedicated people like play game for 150h reach new galaxy or be a billionaire

or mabye we will be able to find battleships

[peak prairie]

I mean, we know they're working on a big update, so it's not a crazy predictions

[wild pendant]

just realised what i said might be correct becuase one of the thing hello agmes have'nt touched i space

[untold juniper]

when ppl say, we're living in a simulation, or our brains are in jars or whatever, i just think, sure. you can believe that. there's no way of us finding out if reality is real, and theres nothing we can do about it. its not a crazy or stupid theory, but what is stupid is making a big deal about it because we can literally do nothing about. ppl will say their theories to me and expect some crazy reaction, but i just say 'so?'

[valid ermine]

Happy nihilism

"... the knowledge that nothing matters, while accurate, gets you nowhere. The planet is dying, the sun is exploding, the universe is cooling, nothing’s gonna matter; the further back you pull the more that truth will endure. But when you zoom in on Earth, when you zoom in to a family, when you zoom into a human brain and a childhood and experience, you see all these things that matter" - Dan Harmon

[untold juniper]

thhats a damn good quote

[coral venture]

Woah

[untold juniper]

😮

[valid ermine]

It IS a good quote.

[untold juniper]

😃

[peak prairie]

@valid ermine @untold juniper I think that leans a lot more towards absurdism.
Acknowledge that there's probably no ultimate meaning to anything, but keep trying to make/find some for yourself.
The absurdist philosopher Albert Camusstated that individuals should embrace the absurd condition of human existence while also defiantly continuing to explore and search for meaning.[1]

[valid ermine]

Oooh, sounds nice

[peak prairie]

The Absurd in this case being defined as the conflict between the nature of the universe and human attempts to find some.

[untold juniper]

interesting

[untold juniper]

i agree

[lone lagoon]

so question... if i reset the Atlas via the Artemis questline, will all my progress be reset?

[crisp fern]

Nah, it won't, but I forget what happens besides your progress not being reset

[lone lagoon]

well good, ive been wandering around getting tons of stuff, and i went to the Atlas interface after completeing the 16 jumps, and it gave me the option to reset... so i denied the request and now want to contine, so reseting would be a bad idea if i totally reset

[icy citrus]

You have two options there, reset the universe and move to another galaxy. Refuse and stay

[untold juniper]

nothing gets reset, but you go to another galaxy and cant return to euclid, and all of ur tech gets damaged, but u can fix that

[soft sonnet]

actaully, it does get reset

in the lore thats whats happening

the simulation is being restarted

[lone lagoon]

EEF if I’m going to lose my place in Euclid then no way, I’m staying: I’ve got my four friends to help out still

[stuck warren]

yeah going to a new galaxy was pretty underwhelming

no real reason to

[peak prairie]

Yeah, you also lose access to your bases.

Until you go the looooong way around

[untold juniper]

i think youd still be able to join ur friends in different galaxies

[ocean wyvern]

Yes

[uncut harness]

update when

[ocean wyvern]

When they update

[lone topaz]

they update when they are ready

[peak prairie]

I think it marks other Galaxy bases as unowned tho

[nocturne zephyr]

I feel like Cobra tv has some inside info, and said he believes it could be very soon

[crisp fern]

Or he's just looking back at when Path Finder was released

[gusty berry]

or maybe people talk of something they took directly from their anal cavity like the majority of speculators

but hey, that's just a theory

[nocturne zephyr]

Oh cool, did not know that's where speculators got their ideas!

[uncut harness]

Yeah most of them just squeeze their maximus gluteus and hope whatever comes out of there is enough for the masses to jump onto the hypetrain fullspeed

[bleak talon]

With HG working on another title now, we can only speculate when another NMS update is coming

[nocturne zephyr]

True

This week maybe?

[violet narwhal]

Didn't they say several times that the other game only involved a small number of people, and wouldn't affect NMS development, or something?

[graceful helm]

@nocturne zephyr May be next month.

[crisp fern]

that's never stopped anyone from thinking otherwise @violet narwhal, lol

[violet narwhal]

I was thinking more that it never stopped them doing otherwise...

[visual mirage]

There's 2 people working on the other title. That's all they've said - We brought on board the creatives behind LostWinds, Steven and Chris, and The Last Campfire is their baby. This is a big moment for them, and we’re excited to be able to share in it.

[uncut harness]

^ To add to this several hours later, they also have 2 office locations now.

[pseudo frost]

The Italy one?

And the Guildford one?

[uncut harness]

Guildford and Cambridge, both UK based.

We are Hello Games, and we make games. Hello!
We’re a video game development studio and publisher based in Guildford and Cambridge in the UK, and are proudly independent. We are the creators of the multi-award winning Joe Danger games, the huge and evolving No Man’s Sky and a recently announced side project The Last Campfire and when we’re not doing that, we’re probably working on something new.

[pseudo frost]

Hmmm but it says their hq is in Italy?

On glass door

Vasto, Italy

[uncut harness]

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06663645

[pseudo frost]

Also nice bird pfp

Gleam would be proud

😂

[uncut harness]

Firstly thanks.
Secondly, it's a butterfly.

[pseudo frost]

It's a bird as per gleam

[uncut harness]

GOOD point

[pseudo frost]

https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Overview/Working-at-Hello-Games-EI_IE771770.11,22.htm?countryRedirect=true

That's where I got italy from

It would be hilarious to see Sean doing italian hand stuff

[uncut harness]

Huh, weird. 🤔

[gusty berry]

Mind blown gesture except with the Italian hand

[last moon]

It's makah my head a go boom ova there. Eyyyyy

[spare pollen]

Comitted a genocide or two

[uncut harness]

Cons


Sometimes we had no milk, so people had to pop off down to the shops to get some```

Cons

- Being central guildford location, parking is limited
- Really high standards expected of all staff
- Flat hierarchy/non corporate structure

[visual mirage]

wtf

[woeful raven]

non corporate structure is goooood

[uncut harness]

I just found a "terraforming disaster" planet, I just love all the details like this.

[lone topaz]

terraforming disaster?

[craggy skiff]

Terraforming is essentially attempting to transform a planet into a habitable one @lone topaz

In this case, the terraforming probably failed somehow and caused a massive disruption to the planets general state of being.

[violet narwhal]

Disaster is when it's left in an even worse state... yeah lol

[uncut harness]

It was labeled "terraforming disaster" on scan, and was a completely lifeless wreck.

[lofty cove]

love those ones

[sullen shoal]

Who are all these mysterious individuals terraforming planets and failing? Is terraforming tech super unstable in this universe?

[uncut harness]

I've just been playing, figuring things out as I go, not reading about the story or quests or whatnot. Experiencing the game as it stands. The only thing I really have not cared for is the obscurity of next steps; for example I am trying to build my submarine craft and spent close to an hour tracking down what made the crystals. now i have to go back and get pearls, and some flora cyto element to make the next parts. I really really really wish the plans for things like this were not hidden behind previous event completion - its a small complaint but the in game library could really use some TLC.

I also discovered sadly that six is the limit for ship count. I kept trading in wrecks and now I am in a bad spot for it, stuck with ships I don't want to upgrade to use for trade. I may have missed tutorial note of the limit, but really wish i had a way to remove ships i no longer want other than making them spaceworthy and going to trading spots

[steady ember]

Any news for updates?

[dark arrow]

None. Complete radio silence.

[last moon]

👻 🏨 🏠 🏣

[verbal hawk]

Maybe someone should start making cals. Starting with M.I.B and The Ghost Busters

[gusty berry]

I can't do calculus sorry

[tulip tangle]

That pic is one of the variants of the Atlas when you go to atlas stations

Its totally random so people can finish the story without seeing every version of atlas

[crisp fern]

Pretty sure it's not random... 🤔

[finite sparrow]

Must be. I’ve finished the storyline without discovering it

Very cool. Thanks Cam

[crisp fern]

The Atlas Path, not the Artemis Path, right?

They're distinct, and the appearances of the Atlas Interface will differ depending on the path

[finite sparrow]

Ah, yes. I’m stupid.

Should they mark that as a spoiler then?

[crisp fern]

🤷 it's been there for a few years now, but maybe for the Xbox folks it should?

[timid mist]

@alpine furnace no, there is a center to every galaxy, which brings you to the next one. There are 256 unique ones, then they just repeat with different names

[alpine furnace]

I'd say that's a shame, but 256 unique galaxies is an incredible amount of content still

[timid mist]

The major differences are just spawn rates of certain planet types, but I'll leave that to mystery

[astral vapor]

I wonder if our universe has a center

[alpine furnace]

Our Observable universe does. And that's us

[astral vapor]

well, we cant be the center of everything

[uncut harness]

He is correct.

[astral vapor]

so earth is at the center of everything in existence

[wind lichen]

no

the center of the observable universe

[astral vapor]

I c

[wind lichen]

imagine it as the horizon

you cant see past it so your the center of it

[astral vapor]

ooo

okie

I c

[alpine furnace]

And there is a center, where the big bang originated in

why are we talking about this here

[astral vapor]

its kinda relevant

but not really

[alpine furnace]

I just don't wanna read a big spoiler by accident haha

[wind lichen]

idk

[uncut harness]

Artemis dies

[finite sparrow]

Who invited this guy ^

[pseudo frost]

The channel is called #nms-spoilers ,I literally don't get why someone would even look into this channel if they don't want spoilers

[uncut harness]

@finite sparrow

You literally have a choice to kill artemis or let him live in a korvax prime sim

I'd rather end his life

[icy citrus]

Its dead before you ever even talk to it

[uncut harness]

It's an ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo

I chose to save him/her/it just in case we ever get an update where I can beat the shit out of him/her/it.

😩

[crisp fern]

save yourself some typing, just say "them"

[uncut harness]

I honestly forgot that "them" would have been the perfect word for that entire situation.

Yeah same

I thought Artemis was a guy but later in I realized it's an it

[crisp fern]

🤦

Typically for organisms of undetermined sex i think they is probably more suitable

[uncut harness]

Yes

[uncut harness]

I had a pretty big "I'm so dumb" moment. I didn't know I could scan for vendors on planet, been flying around generic scanning, finding at random or with beacons. For 200 hours. Sigh.

[scenic pewter]

Don’t care what the game says, you take the name of a Greek goddess, my assumption defaults to female

[uncut harness]

@uncut harness - The Abyss is an entity as powerful as Atlas.

Still unknown what it is.

It's just super powerful.

yeah I know, I've seen through the entire story of abyss

I've just been out of touch for a while

on and off, I guess

Ahhhh I see.

can't tell if that strange orb is a door to somewhere or an actual orb like the ATLAS

That's honestly a pretty fair conclusion.

like it looks more 3D than a door and it's much larger

and it already has a similar structure around it that is akin to an atlas station

[icy citrus]

👍

[floral storm]

Hi, need help with Atlas Path

I'm on PS4

[icy citrus]

Go for it

[floral storm]

I'm not exactly sure what happened but apparently I have been able to build the final seed and there is no Atlas station anywhere for me to actually turn it in.

The one Atlas station I've been able to finally come back onto doesn't actually have the ball there, it's an inactive station

*ball, Atlas, whatever

I just see the message in the corner that says 'speak to atlas'

Galaxy map tells me there are no more Atlas stations. I tried using the Anamoly task to get a new Atlas path and that didn't work.

[icy citrus]

They didn't give a location? Or didn't give the option?

[floral storm]

No.

I'm pretty Lost in space now

I've been trying to go back to all the places where I found out of stations and that's been very difficult

*found Atlas stations

[icy citrus]

When you select the mission as active, and filter on the galaxy map for active mission - what happens?

[floral storm]

It just says current mission destination reached

[icy citrus]

Ouch

[floral storm]

And there is no Atlas station

Yeah kind of irked

[icy citrus]

And what you have built is the heart of the sun, yeah?

[floral storm]

Yep

[icy citrus]

Did you go along the Artemis path at all?

[floral storm]

I'm at the very final step of the Artemis path

16/16

[icy citrus]

That might be the issue

[floral storm]

But detoured onto the atlas path

[icy citrus]

It's gonna send you to an atlas station also

[floral storm]

If I finish the Artemis path is it going to mess anything up like send me to new Galaxy or something? You can spoil me

[icy citrus]

You have the option to stay or go

But it will start you out as kinda new either way - in that you will need to repair your active ship and multitool and exo-tech again

You keep your assets

[floral storm]

Will I still be able to get back to the bases that I've built

They aren't anything fancy just claimed some planets because of good resources

[icy citrus]

If you stay in the same galaxy, yep

It will just be that initial repair part, you will keepp any ships, freighters etc

[floral storm]

cool I have no problem if I get shuttled somewhere else and I have to rebuild bases. I mean there's millions of places I can check out it's not like I'm never going to find anything again.

Onward into the dark

[icy citrus]

It's not a bad idea to use a ship with no extra tech for that step

Makes it quicker at any rate

[floral storm]

Maybe getting sent to a new Galaxy will fix the atlas path.

[icy citrus]

I think completing the Artemis path will - even if you stay - but I haven't seen this particular problem at the stage you are at before, so not sure or anything

[floral storm]

Looks like I truly am in the great unknown

[icy citrus]

It used to happen when you portaled for Artemis, while doing the atlas path

[floral storm]

Is it worth me trying to find a black hole?

[icy citrus]

For?

[floral storm]

Do you think that might fix the atlas path issue?

[icy citrus]

No, but that doesn't mean anything- it may be very hard though

Unless the anomaly is giving those to you still

[floral storm]

I've never gotten one from the anomaly

[icy citrus]

Ask for a path to the center

[floral storm]

unfortunately I'm stuck on the naturalist milestone so I have to find a planet and get all the creatures before I can go back to the anomaly. Fun!

[icy citrus]

There is an easy method to that now

The new exotic fauna visions introduced

There is only one per planet, and they are easy to locate

[floral storm]

I have seen those I guess I forgot that they were there cuz I didn't have the naturalist mission.

Cool I'll wander around and find one of those and see maybe if I can get this thing fixed

[icy citrus]

Gl traveller!

[floral storm]

Well thanks for your help i very much appreciate it!

[icy citrus]

No problem

[floral storm]

This reminds me when I used to call the Nintendo hotline as a kid!

[icy citrus]

Lol

[floral storm]

😂

Except I'm not going to get yelled at by my mom for toll charges!

[icy citrus]

Rofl