#nms-spoilers
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Im not
theyre like atmo-less planets without the beautiful airless space-sky
The living exotics are at least vaguely interesting to land on
Maybe some could have an airless sky and some could not
But the clacified and metallics and stuff, they dont even have the common decency to offer resources worth noting
less than regular planets
I like the strider or "cable" ones the most
maybe they should be more rare
but offer new resources
and maybe versions with grass
I like the megalithic forest planets like so
Heres the regular size ones 😄
Do you8 like this ship?
its at the same coords as this here:
I discovered this diplo plabnet months ago, its color scheme has changed twice lol
Used to be the turquiose grass and light orange sky
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i like its new colors better though
yeah
When you get to the choice at the end of the story, choose "Tranquil"
ik
Eissentam is king
its better than sex
better than being alive or having people care about you
Euclid is a dumpster fire that is so bad that we should agree to murder the devs
nah
oh
youre right I remember now
Theyre actually really similar
But euclid is slightly inferior
And being there is kinda like having your GF tell you that your best freinds %$% felt better because it was half an inch longer
o
One of these days a Mod will notice that they forgot to ban me for being a monster
There he is
Nah, we're watching ❤
o lol
Arre you on PC or console?
console
I keep coming here in hopes of leaks or stuff found in the game files
@mental socket You want modding channels
Nnnope. Usually the leaks have put out on here too
if I want to know about mods I go to modding channel
I had another NMS related dream
😏
lol
There was a new race with unique freighters
and they were hostile
and you could go on their freighters and try to kill them
and if you died on one of them you'd wake up in the freighter but it was crashed
they could also fly low in the atmosphere
there were also abandoned cities
Interesting
yeah
But not really spoilers silly
😱
😮
Not it
hmmmmm
Can’t say, nda
o
I just realized that artemis's little thing in the space anomaly is just simulationception
................And I just realized that the reason artemis might be in some unknown void is because of the death of nada + polo + presumably the anomly with them
She's just a part of the loop like everybody else
how long is the null quest?
You're given a choice to leave the galaxy and go to a new one or stay in that galaxy.
Correct, nothing "amazing". Each galaxy spawns more of a planet type, that's it really.
No reason to leave Euclid galaxy.
it makes a new system
and then it just points you to some random black hole
so it's not too special
Also I made the choice to leave Euclid, and I can say it was a bad decision. Sure it's refreshing to an extent, especially with a different color for the center (It's red in hilbert instead of white) but I lost every base I owned.
I think so
Been playing since day one. Got a freighter when they first got introduced and can confirm they won't. With next we did lose our freighter bases because of the interior layout change
So you should be able to keep the feighter base forever unless they decide to change the layout again
Your bases won't technically be lost either when changing galaxies. They are just left in the previous galaxy and only way of jumping back is to go through all of the galaxies until you're back in Euclid
Lol.
Only takes 255 times
And yeah I have my freighter base still
I still have my freighter from euclid too
Saying this here as it may be a spoiler for some, but damn I did not expect this game to give me some feels. Just came back after playing at release and finding Artemis' grave got me a little.
I didn't feel much, it was pretty predictable for me
But when the point came where I had the choice of letting him live in the simulation or die peacefully, got me all mentally rekt
Isn't the Atlas supposed to take my Heart of the Sun?
I still have it in my inventory
Oh no my game broke
It's making me redo the mind arc mission and now it's stuck at "answers may be found in the stars"
Going to a different system fixed it
Good news for me, I accidentally found out how to fix the problem on my main involving Remembrance whilst trying to find the time value so I can let polo do the next milestone thingy for me
.....And I think I just found it
hey, umm is the wiki lore on artemis complete? because I'm not sure if I understood the atlas storyline completely.
what was the purpose of the reset? is the atlas still gonna die in 16 mins even AFTER the reset?
or you reset the universe so atlas doesn't die? I didn't get the whole reset part with artemis what was the reason for it?
16 minutes on an alien timeline.
ATLAS knows it's dying and believes a reset is the only choice to save itself.
the rogue data on wiki doesn't make much sense at all
why though? like it's windows is frozen so it wants to restart it? 😄
Corrupted data, more like a fresh install of the OS.
I mean what's the significance of resetting one universe if it's simulating countless ones at the same time?
but after you reset it the anomaly glitches are still there
shouldn't the reset have removed the corrupted travelers and multiplayer then?
The reset starts a new universe.
but the new universe still has glitched travelers in it, so the reset didn't do much?
The glitches are part of another entity that is as powerful as Atlas.
It's 2 simulations merging together in the simplest of terms.
but after you reset, isn't a dialog somewhere that says I don't know how much 16 mins is in my world, so that means the atlas is still dying in 16 mins of real time no?
16 minutes Atlas time.
yeah 16 mins of real time even after reset so atlas is still gonna die after reset?
also the rogue data said that atlas could only simulate until a point where someone puts its hands on the chassis
so every time it simulates a universe it always ends the same and it knows the reset won't save it because atlas already saw the end before?
No, it resets cause it thinks it's dying. It's been reset a number of times previous to the reset that you do.
the rogue data is what's confusing
There's another entity as powerful as Atlas, storyline of that was setup with The Abyss.
Doing the underwater missions may help that make a little bit more sense.
null said there was one universe where sentinels went rogue and killed everyone, but he apparently also reset the universe he was in, were they the same universe? I mean did null reset the universe where sentinels killed everyone?
Yes.
oh I had no idea about that, there wasn't anything on wiki for abyss
so why is null sorry for doing it if everyone was already killed by sentinels?
Cause he has already reset and knows what happens after.
he feels guilty for resetting a universe with no life in it because sentinels killed them all?
oh so he's just scarred we're gonna reset HIM?
Simply put yes but he's also aware that it's a repeating loop.
I still don't get the reset though 😰
is atlas gonna die for real or not? does it reset like everytime it gets down to 16 min or something?
It's already "died" many times over.
This isn't the first reset of Atlas and won't be the last.
then what's the significance of 16 mins then? every time it's reset it has 16 mins left or it'll blow up?
16 minutes until Atlas restarts.
😵
AFTER you reset it, 16 mins of atlas time until everything AFTER the reset is deleted?
Yes, exactly.
then why does it put you in a new universe immediately? the NEW universe you get put in is what's getting reset not the old one? #mindblown
Old one is deleted, new one is after the reset.
so the command you give the ai deletes euclid, regenerates a new universe with your parameters, then what happens after?
what happens after the actual reset I mean?
New galaxy is created for you to explore but the Atlas thinks it's dying again.
so it gets reset twice effectively?
More than twice.
you soft reset it, then after a while it hard resets itself?
Infinitely
one cycle
one cycle is two resets?
'cuz it deletes your original universe, then it deletes the new universe too after 16 mins?
why does it delete the original universe? isn't euclid gonna be gone anyway after 16 mins are up? why regenerate a new one on the spot if the actual reset is gonna do it anyway?
I mean why regenerate twice? just wait for reset?
Imagine if you was to do a fresh install of your operating system but choose to delete all personal files.
It's basically that.
but the personal files were in euclid 😦
Yes, they're now gone.
atlas like deleted the personal files and was like oops, maybe play some minesweeper in the meantime while I'm reformatting
then you put more personal files on the new galaxy, 16 mins end and it deletes them too
it deletes your files twice then be like deal with it 😄
No, 16 minutes until reset is complete.
Completely fresh and new operating system.
what happens when 16 mins are over in your NEW galaxy?
you mean reset as in with no warning or like traveler quest?
Exactly the same storyline in new galaxy.
I mean one full cycle is new galaxy to reset or new galaxy to reset to new galaxy
I mean when you choose to reset, you have 16 mins until the next CHOICE or next auto reset?
Next auto reset.
then it deletes you twice
Infinitely.
so you choose to reset instantly, then after 16 more mins atlas resets itself 'cuz screw you, then after that it thinks it's gonna die again and makes another traveler to reset it and so on?
it probably should've figured out by now that whatever's wrong with it, resetting ain't gonna fix it 😂
I thought it was dying permanently 'cuz the battery or whatever was running out and THIS one was its last reset before RIP
Does the Artemis quest keep repeating itself or did I get myself into a bug
You choosing to reset starts the process, it's not instant. It starts the procedure of wiping data and re-installing the OS.
Atlas thinks it's dying and is trying to save itself, each reset the Atlas changes something in the hope that it will save itself but thinks it's still dying anyway.
Travellers are created by Atlas to save itself.
my atlas quest is bugged and repeats itself with star cores, my artemis is explore galaxy open ended
There is another entity that is as powerful as Atlas that also has as much control and power over the simulation that the Atlas does.
Yeah my Atlas didn't take the heart of the sun
Atlas AI is so smart it keeps scamming me out of star cores 😔
Not sure if I should throw it away or no
oh I get it now, it's like a gradual format that STARTS with euclid like a hdd partition
it eventually deletes everything after 16 mins, you just might be the last drive right?
you reset it, euclid is like drive c it goes instantly
Hey @thick seal if you're in a diff galaxy then you can't use portals to come back to Euclid, right?
you can use portals to go different galaxies????
pretty sure you can't go to any galaxy not just euclic
but you can go back to euclid if you go to center 255 times
I mean if you use someone's coords that are in Euclid but you're in eiss
you get on different planets
Figured
someone gave me a euclid base for niple buds from euclid
it kicked me on an extreme ice planets in eisen 😄
Yeah I ain't leaving then
it wouldn't even be the same planet
🤔 well not on my main save
is it implied that the race who created atlas was humans?
or it's just the looks and nothing in the texts
Unknown.
the wiki says it's an unknown race but the untranslated dialogs are english
he looks human and speaks english🤔
The Atlas was created by Sean Murray
and his team
But theyre a terrible dev company so the Atlas was seriously flawed

You are a terrible dev company
@mighty rampart the heart of the sun is used when you choose the next Galaxy or something
Heart of the sun is used at the end of the atlas path to "create a new star", and is also used for a crafting recipe for the remembrance which you get after finishing the main storyline(artemis)
Not really
You played the story right?
Only I can do it
The Artemis storyline?
The Atlas was before Artemis storyline was implemented.
the atlas quest was pretty much a 🖕 for completing it
Not really
it just confused the artemis story for me
heh
what's the point of creating new galaxy if you're gonna reset?
That's WHY you reset.
atlas asks you to give him some nut knowing he will delete the kid
but why take heart of sun?
It asks for you to reset it
no I mean atlas path
the ARG confuses me
atlas will delete it 'cuz reset
it also gives stat boosts
but artemis path will delete the galaxy you made in atlas path
I think
isn't atlas simulating UNIVERSES not galaxies?
Reset is Atlas's attempt to save itself.
255 galaxies is in his 1 universe
The Atlas is simulating a universe yes
whatever you made with heart of sun will get deleted when reset
so why tf is atlas making new galaxies within a universe that he will soon reset?
atlas knows it's gonna reset, why ask for heart of sun? it will be deleted anyway after the reset because it's in the current universe
so does the universe
so the galaxy is named something else now
because it got reset
Also apparently there are other universes as well
other Atlas's
^
Which is what The Abyss introduced.
When MP was introduced the lore said that the universes were colliding or some hippy shit
I know, maybe there's a misunderstanding somewhere.
And that different travellers were glitching into other universes
When you give atlas heart of sun, does it not add a galaxy to the CURRENT universe with it?
but only as orbs
Basically lore-wise, MP is just a giant bug in the code of the Atlas
travellers supposedly only one for one universe. now we are... seeing each others.
atlas takes your heart of sun and makes a new galaxy with it IN CURRENT UNIVERSE
Yes but you also need to understand we had this option BEFORE the Artemis storyline was introduced.
when you reset CURRENT UNIVERSE the galaxy you made will be gone too
Travellers are muliverse
so atlas didn't know he was dying then?
only reason they are in the same universe now
even though he got reset multiple times?
then atlas is just dumb 😛
so basically when he asked for heart of sun atlas didn't know it will be wasted?
It knows
It's to save itself
^
from something
This is the equivalent of you begging for your life if someone was threatning you.
like how? it's a machine it just follows though algorithms how can it panick?
"I'll do anything"
AI doesn't have feelings it's simulating feelings for other races
Basically it will get reset either way and it knows, so it asks you to reset it now because it will be less painful
didn't it also have a monitoring protocol called idk what that for whatever reason talks in your spacesuit now?
No, your suit is called Telamon.
wouldn't it be his job to deal with the problem instead of atlas itself?
Atlas is a very very very advanced AI beyond our current understanding xD
yeah isn't it his job to fix this problem?
No, you got picked to fix this problem.
Telamon was a traveller that came before, I think?
Yup
Telamon wasn't Atlas security protocol was it?
Hmmm
didn't atlas have a security protocol above itself?
I don't think so
then it had sentinels below
what happened to the security protocol? it had ONE job 😄
...Telamon, a security sub-protocol designed to monitor the Atlas in case of rampancy.
So, he was the protocol.
so the reason atlas simulated travelers in the first place isn't because they're from the corrupted memory of atlas's creator? atlas doesn't know what to do, maybe its simulated creator might know?
Guess he was
That's correct
I thought the whole point of anomalies existing was because atlas is dumb as shit but can simulate its creator who is smart.
Mhm
`In its fear, in its confusion, the ATLAS awakens. It attempts to summon its creator back into being.
It wants to know what to do before the end. It wants to know why it was abandoned, why it has to face this moment alone. It wants to know why I left it behind.`
so the logical step would be to simulate the creator or whatever's left of it.
yes exactly, anomalies are the race that created atlas. so atlas does have a creator.
The Atlas is a little baby who got left alone with way too much power
^
and is now panicking
It might have a creator
But we will never know
because rip loop16
Some alien race made atlas, it became obsolete then left it. Some dude was supposed to turn off atlas but instead of turning it off he decided to let atlas scan his brain 'cuz what could go wrong. Right?
turns out the creators weren't that smart either afterall 😄
I would've pulled the plug then nuked the place lmao
What we don't know is WHY the Creator left. It just does.
like that's the most dangerous machine on your entire planet, why tf would you give it your brain?
the dude still let himself be simulated in atlas though it's not like atlas kidnapped or hijacked his brain or something
The rogue data was in before all that happened, though, right?
Yep.
that was probably the biggest mistake of all😖
letting yourself be scanned by a machine that simulates universes is pretty high on the list of dumbest things that you can possibly do🤗
Why? I'd do it if I built it.
still I put artemis in a simulation for lulz
I mean it's already a simulation so who cares, what difference does it make how many layers deep it goes so I just put artemis in the machine thing
That's kind of the whole plot of SOMA...
it's not like I'm in a better situation that artemis myself so
🤔
what happened to him in the end anyway? his communication just ended
I told him the truth and he was cool with it then radio silence
Gone exploring.
yeah but what happened after the finished exploring? why not call his best buddy back? 😦
Cause he's having fun exploring.
maybe he got rekt by sentinels or something he would've called me
artemis was my bae
he either killed himself or sentinels killed him, no way he just forgot about the guy who saved him
Or maybe you're just not showing on his/her Holocommunicator anymore. 🤷
gotta go back and slap that computer then
or maybe turn it off and on so it would work again
😬
if he wasn't dead already he will be after that 😊
Also, to confuse you more.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI5ocNnnOT99Uw0CPs9q4Nw/videos
This is the Atlas.
This is Emily.
She is/was Atlas.
damn feels like i missed the party😢
you could already tell someone's first vlog doesn't look like that though🤔
that mic and camera probably costs more than my whole laptop 🤗
I like how he kept saying she's bad at stuff but she's better than like most other people 😬
and I mean not in a humble way, like skynet pretending it's dumb so you won't pull its plug before it gets enough power 👌
Many people commented on that too, thought she may be purposely leading us in the wrong direction.
But it kinda worked out in the end.
is she like a famous actor or a dev team member?
tbh she could probably audition for big movies this is too good
wait no one knows who she actually is yet? lol
I think it's best to keep it a secret
dat production quality tho😱
wish "SOME famous streamers" would learn from this
shame it didn't get more views 😦
is the view counter right? this deserves 100k-200k at the very least just for the production quality
ARG's aren't for everyone
Yeah but not everyone likes ARG's
The quality is too good
That's for sure
It's amazing
but it would still be an excellent how to do vlogs guide 😬
there are theater movies in 2018 that are utter garbage, a couple of youtube videos can be better than big budget movies we really live in sad times 😦
I just wish one day I wake up and see #waking-titan-arg being flooded with messages
Same tbh
instead garbage youtubers that prank abuse kids get the top views
like those assholes who were "pranking" their own kids for millions of views (if you could call that pranking)
with an iphone 3 camera 😐
seriously this mic probably costs 5 times my entire headset
and shout out to devs too, how they went from the worst game of 2017 (possible decade :D) to this 👏
They gave us all of that at no extra cost.
Just a way of showing us how much they appreciate us.
tbh that's the most impressive thing
"Here, have some fun."
yeah they had absolutely no (legal) obligation to do any of this
❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤
shows that they truly care about the game, the actual game not the 🤑
also shows how forgiving, mature and understanding the gaming community as a whole is
do this in the music industry and you're done for life 😄
but they were given a second chance and did the most they could with it 💓
This server was a lot smaller back then too.
So with all the new people here, I imagine the ARG being even more fun.
It's fun to watch the hivemind.
yeah it's fun when you watch others do it 😛
It is.
I used to stop what I was doing to watch the livestreams.
Watch them from beginning to end.
wait hmm
how was it confirmed that she was related to the work by the dev team?
I mean the vidoes are conclusive proof or am I missing something?
She appeared in other communities.
I mean a random person could've done this too though?
Including here.
yeah but she apparently knew things AFTER they happened only?
The website that linked her turned into the atlas-65 forums.
she was trying to act as she's in on in but she didn't say anything before someone else already knew
anyone can register any unused domain tho?
There's a ton of websites that were used in the ARG.
actually I think I'm changing my mind BECAUSE she's TOO convincing 🤔
Puzzles pointed us to websites and IP addresses.
Then from them websites there were more puzzles which pointed to new places.
she found the puzzles?
who did? 😄
She pointed us to co-ordinates on a planet in NMS.
Which started a chain of events.
that someone else "allegedly" found?
Yes
idk she sounds too fishy it's almost like she wants us to believe she's in on it🤗
Her website http://www.etarc.org/ is where things kicked off originally.
Lots of stuff were posted on the forums.
The forums now point to the Atlas-65 forums which is Citizen Science Division.
idk man but I'd bet my money on her not being in on it, at least from not from the beginning. maybe just very smart, or a friend of devs/staff.
It's very well thought out.
maybe she got recruited half way through or something
if I wanted to sound smart without actually knowing anything, that first vlog would be exactly how I'd do it😊
this is what I do all the time but don't tell anyone😊
I know it when I see it 😬
I'd bet she's not in on it 💸
idk where she got the mic and camera and the editor tho lol
She is on it, she died at the end of last season.
She setup the livestreams and connected us with the dreamers.
then she got recruited half way in🤐
Then sacrificed herself to save a young boy.
Naw, many more influential people than her.
She works for the ARG company that's for sure.
then that's 11/10👍
still not buying it but if it's true then she did a phenomenal job👏
our universe is a simulation D:
anything new found in the files after 1.77?
I looked at the text, nothing interesting there.
that's actually a real debate though rose
even elon musk has talked about it, there was a debate on simulation theory in 2016 hosted by neil degrasee tyseon if I'm not mistaken
I'd highly recommend watching that
what I'm trying to say is that simulation theory isn't a joke in the science community, there are actual scientists working on it (although very few)
we MIGHT very well be in a simulation right now
I personally don't think we are but the simulation argument is very compelling
https://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.pdf <= recommend reading this too
and I stress that it's not a joke/troll paper👌
that dude nick bostrom is pretty (in)famous for this in fact
@plucky marsh ^
the thing with simulation hypothesis is that we're assuming that the only barrier to simulating entire universes is computing power, or in other words, given enough processing power, universes can be simulated on a computer. what's not often discussed is whether it is even possible to simulate universes, like with quantum mechanics and chaos theory, we will need infinite precision or an algorithm that can at least generate infinite precision data in order to be able to simulate a universe. the concept of consciousness and soul is a whole another debate, but is a Turing machine even capable of simulating universes? the hypothesis assumes the answer is yes.
right now, we need more and more processing power to simulate atoms with more accuracy, but is that enough? imagine you had access to a computer with infinite processing power, HOW will you simulate a universe? or in other words, how do you first prove that it is possible for a turing machine to simulate a universe accurately, including consciousness ?
I mean I know about the theories
But it just .makes no sense reading about it
Like we can't do shit even if we find we are in a simulation
didn't I just link that?
I just posted sources showing we are not.
yeah I just linked one of those above lol
Nice then
but still even then the problem with those is that IF we WERE in a simulation
Our universe follows the same structure as a hologram universe.
then any data IN the simulation is fabricated, so we can't just assume 1st that it's correct and 2nd OUR laws of physics apply to the layer above our universe
the point is, it's kinda a weird one in a sense that there are very compelling arguments for both sides
it's kinda like god where you can't prove or disprove it
Dude, flat earth theory exists.
that makes it not a good scientific theory
it's more of a philosophical debate that goes way back than the invention of computers and nick bostrom
You can argue literally anything as evidence proves to both yes and no with literally everything.
the notion that reality is a dream isn't new
the simulation theory is just a new skin for it
but a theory has to be falsifiable otherwise it's not a good theory
lmao yeah tbh you could argue for literally anything
the new evidence shows that a computer BOUND BY OUR laws of physics cannot simulate our own universe
which means in the future we will never be able to run ancestor simulations of our own past
sadly that only knocks out half of nick's premises 😂
slap "what if aliens?" on it and you'll have a round 2 to go 😦
his paper's still very interesting though even if you don't believe in it
interesting in the "bruh what the actual fuck you been smoking" kind of way🤗
like what train of thought passes this station
and it messes with your head because no matter how hard you try, you just can't disprove it
then you think, hold on a sec, what if it's actually right?😱
that's not a problem with flat earth theory, it's pure bs and you CAN easily disprove it
you can filter out most of the nonsense with the scientific method, it's the few ones you can't that are truly scary
@uncut harness that's correct, everything CAN be argued as evidence for whatever. the question is whether people can come to multiple, rational, logical, conclusions from that same evidence. Most times you can, in fact, have multiple conclusions that are all rational, logical, conclusions using the same evidence. the hope is that as you continue to gather evidence, the additional evidence will support one conclusion over others.
Hexmas Stocking (Liar)Today at 3:45 PM
Oh for sure.
And tbh it will open other possibilities and advance other research.
i think the real problem is less that people can come to a conclusion from available evidence that our universe is a simulation, and more a problem of our concept of reality. it is perfectly feasible the "reality" IS a simulation, that isn't really problematic unless of course you just absolutely are not willing to accept that idea on a personal level, for personal existential insecurity reasons.
accepting it's a simulation doen't change anything. reality as we know it keeps on chugging either way. it just opens up directions we can explore philosophically and scientifically when trying to determine how we can manipulate the universe around us, which is what we've always done, look for new ways to utilize the universe we exist in. and if the simulation theory is correct, perhaps even leave the universe we exist in, or at least glimpse part of that reality that exists outside the simulation.
in the case of NMS I get the impression that existence is toroidal. that is, the simulation is the reality it is simulating. they created a computer capable of so accurately simulating their universe that it actually is the universe. that which happens in the simulation happens in the external unverse because they are one in the same. ATLAS freaks out upon discovering this because it is about to be destroyed. the only solution: restart the simulation, else everything ends.
on an interesting side note, we can actually define a universe mathematically with a finer resolution than our own real universe has. so we could actually write a program that defines a minimum resolution of a simulated universe far smaller than the Planck length. food for thought. Our universe actually has a minimum resolution, if it is a simulation it's creators clearly weren't interested in giving it any better resolution and instead spent the presumably finite system resources on other things. They could have (mathematically) given it finer resolution and didn't. so either they were bumping up against their own technical limitations, or decided a finer resolution wasn't needed, asuming it is a simulation.
So slight spoilers
The creature we got in a zoo
Is a specific new creature
Which has its own animation specific for terrarium
So I think it's not possible to add in other creature (say via modding)

Oh, well that's mildly disappointing.
I mean if the skeleton is basic...
@pseudo frost but could you replace the the model of that creature with another one
without changing the actual creature
if it even is a creature or just looping animation of one
like the fishes in the aquarium
can you even feed it? Does it make any noise?
Holy shit lmao I thought my game glitched and going through the portal made me clip out of my ship
It was just part of the story
Aaaa can someone help pls if I go to the centre for the final Atlas station will the game force me to go to the next galaxy or can I choose to stay?
Ok I looked up wiki nvm
You can choose @mighty rampart
@rugged seal 178m for that freighter
not bad at all
i neever got my free freighter :////
Hot take. No Man's Sky is secretly a horror game.
@floral yarrow yeah some Jacob's Ladder shit going on
What
Nah. It's not lovecraftian.
It's psychological. 
Especially during Overseer's questline where he turned bitter, and angry. Scientist being stuck in constant memory reloop and you can do nothing to help him. Armorer dying of old ages wishing immortality, and then all these travelers you've stumbled across in your travel.
These travelers?
They're all dead, jim. They're all dead.
Hay guys, a question for you: havent reached the center of the galaxy so far, but if i do so i will be "warped" to a new one and have to start again? Do you lose all your tech/stuff/ships? And as far as i understood you can try to reach the center of this new galaxy. How many galaxys are there? Or are there infinite galaxys? thank you!
You will be warped to the next one if you go to the center
You don’t lose anything but your bases (which you could disassemble manually beforehand) and your active ships tech, suit tech and multitool tech will be damaged
256 galaxies you can reach, counting the one you start in
@icy citrus okay thank you. And is there any point in reaching the center of the last galaxy?
If you went through the rest - then you have to I would think. Gameplay wise you loop back to Euclid - but from what I understand it isn’t named Euclid, it gets a procgen name, but mirrors Euclid. I might be behind the times on that one though - either way you go back to 1
hm okay, not really special, considering the amount of time you have to invest
thynk you for clarification!
😃
Nah it euclid in full
galaxy id and all
might have been different before atlas rises but since atlas rises it goes back to euclid
@uncut harness if i say to him '16' is the atlas, is that a spoiler? sorry if that sounds like a dumb question but i just want to know just in case
Good question, I'd personally class it as a spoiler.
Okay, thanks
I mean, you can always ask if he's interested and just tag him in here.
i can do that
some unused powered base objects
Man, that just has so many questions waiting to be asked.
What is life
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:gunfingers:
That asset to the very right is quite obviously some sort of battery.
Giant barrel?
cooling unit
pump
fence but there's no force field on snap
can't be arsed to edit the scene myself
same with the turrets and distributor that doesn't have an buildtable ID
Hold on a minute.
Forcefield fence, turrets and distributor is vanilla and not modded?
the scenes and geometries are in the files
That's a very good point.
I am now super curious what HG has/had planned for these.
inb4 HG makes you build generators to power up your 1000 fucking lightbulbs
cos a wall light ID is in the power grid list
I'd post that on reddit but all people do these days are accusing me of trolling
If anyone wants to see how these could work
Just look at a game called Eden star
It has exact same shit
Also
It means we will actually have some mob enemy coming
Against which we will probably use the fences and turrets for
Which is how it worked in Eden star too
😩
Oh well that is certainly interesting.
Yeah
If I need to be protecting myself AND my base, I'm down.
I'm just watching a gameplay now.
I'd love to know the plan for NMS though.
I think we will have new mob fiends
That attack bases
The fences we're used to protect the base from the swarms
I guess it will function similarly
I mean, an anti sentinel fence would be nice
Get them to stop making noise around my base
I would love to have turrets
Well some people on here found base building part files for turrets, solar panels, wires and wind turbines. Those are probably work in progress features that we'll get in next month or later @mild condor
Is there any benefit from playing on survival instead of normal?
No, just a bit harder is all - and not by much
Even more of a refill-bars simulator.
And lack of graves from what my friend was telling me. Yeah, I'll stay on normal then I guess. 😄
Hellogames should cooperate with nasa and makes arg that actually solve space stuffs. How surprising will it be when players realize thr puzzles are reaaaal
The next part of the puzzle can be found at this landmark.
This location is where humanity first placed a symbol to mark their milestone of humanity stepping foot on another world.
Until us
but there are sentinels in space as well. why dont they attack the big capital ships?
So maybe we will see cities at some point
🤷
There isn’t lore for that, but I would assume because we are at the beginning of the universe so to speak
i mean I get the sentinels are supposed to be some kind of police force employed by the atlas etc
I think because they aren’t building cities, they are left alone - maybe when they start to colonize further is when the sentinels get pissed
might be the case, yeah
Or maybe it just isn’t time yet
maybe, yeah
but it still makes me think where all the races are living
i mean, apparently they are all flying around in their star systems but there are no habitats for em besides the space station
The freighters and frigates are pretty big, maybe they are all gypsy now - live onboard
that could be the case, yeah
hm, makes me think tho
the exterior hulls of space stations are pretty thick. maybe the sentinels are in fact attacking them too?
...nah, i dont think that would make sense. if you shoot a space station, they will call sentinels
our freighter bases get really big if we build them up
yeah, at least there should be homeworlds of the three races we can visit
I think they worried people wants to explore a full fledging city
or well full fledging planet of cities :x
what happens when you go to the center of the game
do you lose your bases?
or the big freighter
im just interested in what happens to your stuff, since im considering on getting the game
you do lose your bases; i dont know if you lose your freighter but your ship will also be damaged
but you can find them again right?
if you manage to go back to the specific colour galaxy you're at
you cant go back so no
np ^-^
@fossil summit dis is complete breakdown: https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Traveling_to_Another_Galaxy
tldr: leave galaxy, cant go back, bases gone. ships, freighters, inventory thingies remain but many techs will be broken
There aren't any.
or is there?
Well, there was nothing interesting new in 1.77 in the text since Abyss... And no unexpected new files either.... So...
Yea pretty much
turret piece
@ocean wyvern @fossil summit you can technically get back, but it requires going through all the other galaxies first
You don't even lose your based permanently
There are also methods via the main quests to travel with less damage
@gusty berry is that the turret we're getting to the base building menu?
or did you just use the freighter turret model and made it smaller
It's in spoiler chat so likely the former
^
It'd be in #nms-modding otherwise
cool cool
well, does it have any function yet?
I really wish we could get a menu where we can change the turrets targeting into animals, sentinels, other people etc.
I am gonna go ahead and say we will get swarming animals that target our bases
And using these will be defense
more lag around bases 💙
do you all actually have the atlas seed/remembrance installed? I removed it tbh
already got a bunch of "lives" from the S rank shielding, and the lore from the remembrance stations was honestly pretty dull imo
I do - we have so many inventory slots 2 less doesn’t mean anything
I use the inventory slots to carry all the portable tech, and carrying all the fossils
That still leaves like 60 slots
oh yeah I am still omw to getting all 48 cargo slots
I get too tempted to land on planets so most of my time goes there
Never a bad thing
any new thing we discover from data mining i was away since the 1.77 was released
Some models for powered parts/power generation, can scroll up a little for the turret
ok good to see you zoid 😃
What do they shoot
Don't think we know yet
Sentinels? Predators? What could possibly be the use
I'd guess either one of those are good wagers.
Sentinels would make more sense, like if they're chasing you
Turrets doens't mean missiles
What I want are bombs you can drop from ships
well on what stuff we have turrets in the game right now
of course they are not interactive but are they turrets model on something
On what
im asking lol
Freighters
Unsure if it's a similar model though
I want to be able to drop bombs from my ship
The ships we have now are more like escape pods than real ships
A real ship is frigate size
I want my main ship to be one of my combat frigates
Escape pods with guns and missiles and hyperdrive
luxe escape pods ?
angry escape pods
Chanel escape pods
But think about it, a combat freighter might be harder to pilot, but I have an idea
Hence the name
What if you could go up to the cockpit and hold e to drive
But then exit at any poiint and freeze the ship to walk ariund it
can we sit on chair ?
A combat frigate is bog enough to explore
real talk
I think it'd only really make sense if inter-system travel without warping was a thing
So nope
Like a mix between a freighter and a ship
Cause it doesn't take that long to move from planet to plane,t you could set it on a course but it'd get there before you could do anything
the only thing that could do inter system with pulse drive should be the freighter it could take time but i would feel like in star wars or some shit
That’s why I’m suggesting that you can freeze it in space when you’re not driving it, like a freighter
Basically like a freighter base, but more mobile
You could land it on a planet like a ship
A perfectly portable base
Landing would be hard to accommodate I think
i dont really stock a lot of shit im more exploring and finding rare items to gain credits
Might be better to just allow to you to sit in orbit and then take a smaller ship to the surface.
remember when we saw the fregates for the first time and we be like omg they may be drivable
It couldn’t be that different from landing a ship
And you could have automatic landers
I mean in terms of terrain/clipping
Frigates are massive compared to regular ships
It'd look kinda silly, unless there were specific spots that allowed you to land
I could they could hover above the ground and extend a ladder down or something
Maybe
we needed a middle size between a normal ship and a freighter that could have been drivable
It’s still something I’d like to see as a mod perhaps
guess we are just gonna walk around it and wait to repair them
Even if I can't pilot my frigate I'd like to have access to the control room/wherever the crew happens to be hiding
I want firing for crew, so I can personally fire all geks
i wish i could be able to have friend and be like we are living on the ship like a crew
and make it still on one place with 3 others without knowing what we could do or if we warp together if we wont glitch trough it
So, if I don't want to get my base eaten, I should refuse atlas?
I therefore discard the ability to chose any of the galaxies presented, as traveling to the center gives me other choices?
Also how does refusing atlas matter from the lore point? If he's dying, shouldn't I do that? How does that matter in regard of polo, nada, artemis, null, apollo etc?
Also keeping artemis alive, how does that affect the story? Will I ever be able to interact with them again? Noticed, that the simulation is closed now.
Traveling to the center and reaching it takes you to the next galaxy in line, finishing the Artemis path allows you to choose the type of galaxy you want to go to. From a gameplay perspective nothing changes, you can still talk with the anomaly - no more convos with null or the others after the path is concluded. Keeping Artemis in the sim changes nothing but some dialogue, it’s a no wrong choice kinda thing - do what you think is right
from lore point, I think the traveller should do what Atlas asks, not because wanting to preserve their own life, but out of compassion, of understanding its pain. Like singing a song to a dying kid that asks for it, even tho the song wont save their life
Singing a song doesn't generally result in you being evicted though.
how badly evicted tho? Multitool? Your inventory space and uprades?
I know ship is the same, but gets badly damaged.
and you can still summon your freighter.
also when I chose to reset the simulation, and then joined someone in euclid, that's even possible?
if so, can I build a base, and then teleport between galaxies at will?
No
You can join and play
Exosuit tech and multitool tech are damaged, but not gone - like the active ship
Theory:
We know Atlas is a computer
But that begs the question
Is there a central control station? An Atlas-like structure that acts like an admin computer?
Could give you the option to choose what galaxy you wish to go to, and to whatever point in a galaxy you choose.
Or even the choice on whether or not to help fix Atlas, or end the simulation.
as far as we know from the lore, Atlas is located outside the simulation so you cant fix it since you are just simulation
Sort of
Well damn
I just read into more of the lore
It's way deeper than I thought
Well
One word: ARG
Hmm? @uncut harness
If you already thought it was deep, we had two seasons of an ARG which broadened it quite a bit
Is the ARG fanmade?
Professionals, hired by HG
Led to two major game updates
I did a write up on it. I summarized a lot of the content. Needless to say I was intrigued. It’s called Waking Titan
And apparently it may come back. Or at least an ARG might, since it was in the survey
A survey HG did to determine what the fans want a few months ago
I mean, I had this sort of theory that would be neat to see played out.
Which I explained above with the whole admin terminal to Atlas
There’s an artificial intelligence named Loop16 that ran on the Atlas engine similarly to its creator
To add to what the person said earlier
She went under the alias of Emily Warren and helped lead the game’s development in real time to 1.3 and then subsequently 1.5 upon the arrival of W/ARE tech’s post VR headset that led to the influx of the Anomalies
She was... important, i guess, for a TL;DR
Speaking of which, I never completed The Abyss, or rather I never started it at all. I still need to do that.
So Loop16 created the anomalies?
I’m more versed in the ARG
No, I don’t think she really “created” them. They were people stuck to a faulty virtual-reality-esque device, to which had No Man’s Sky on it. She didn’t load NMS even though she helped ascend its development, or at least that’s how I view it
So
In Season 2, she tried to get them out. We did for the most part even though lots of them died. One remained stuck, though. A figure mentioned very bluntly at the beginning of the game
#2311T
It was cool to say the least
Sword Art Online with amnesia
Yes
There’s also the whole CREATOR thing which explains the “true” origin of the ATLAS. Travelers are replicated versions of the ATLAS’ creator it spawned in for whatever reason and additionally the dreamers fall under its category mostly because they have a similar story (spawned into the simulation from a real, out-of-simulation origin)
That puts a bit more depth into what I'd want to do with the theory.
Also it’s important to note that “our world,” aka the one that is played into by the ARG, is more than likely also a simulation like No Man’s Sky potentially STILL on the Atlas engine itself.
So we aren’t really separate from it, either by us being a simulation or we’re actually part of its infinite cry into multiple realities
This is where the world of glass comes in as well
I’m basically just rephrasing my google document
Which got taken down by the way (my twitter account was locked. Long story)
I can explain that if you’d like
I mean, the glass
Yeah
It’s just my interpretation
Okay, so from what we know the World of Glass is a place beyond reality that all dead things transpire. As a result, it seems like an underlying repository, but the question people usually have is how far and what it is past this.
In the ARG, they teased the concept of the infinite realities in which the ATLAS inhabits and extends by its simulatory nature by showing an infinity mirror, which akin to its name is made of glass. In this infinity mirror, they put the ATLAS over its surface causing it to expand itself across every layer of reflected infinity. The World of Glass, I think, is a portion of this. Since everything is symbolized as being made of glass and the ATLAS is reflected in it, the world of glass is what composes the infinite nature of the ATLAS.
And as a result, also holds the truth of the universe. It’s infinite and the ATLAS is a reflected spectacle in its whole, which explains why it’s so important in the plot of No Man’s Sky and why it is constantly referenced
Some quotes I have on the top of my head: “Everything pours through glass in the end,” and “The dark heart of reality,” from what I can remember.
Hehe, I knew I had deja vu
Holy shit my battery is also on 16%
Loop16 and the whole “sixteen minutes till the ATLAS dies” thing
I learned about the Atlas 16 minute thing today
And that's a lot to take in
The ARG is canon?
Yep
Basically No Man’s Sky, in the ARG universe, is a game just like it is IRL. Only the actual story of development is wildly different.
As far as I can see, No Man’s Sky wasn’t aided by an actual artificial intelligence, reality-inducing engine, or faulty headsets designed to play games or work in your sleep
If you want a link of a much larger and more developed version of what I said here today, let me know.
It’s only slightly outdated because I never factored in the ABYSS update’s storyline content since it was made before. Honestly because I’m not that interested
Speaking of which, does anyone just have data mined logs of it?
The 16.16 code broke the npcs on my spawn station -.-
@uncut harness I found a YouTube video on it
orbit had good summary videos, at least during the first part,
Updates have slowed
Are you spending time with your family and friends right now?
Since it's Christmas and all
Guess what
So are the people at HG
If you use the heart in the Galaxy center, I don't think you'll use it in an atlas station
Dang
You can’t use the Heart of the Sun anywhere except an atlas interface, or to craft remembrance
It has nothing to do with the center
@pseudo frost we're basically playing in a scaled up Tron mainframe, heh.
...ok we need giant cubes to fall from the sky and force a minigame
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dunno, WT broke me tho, I see ARGs in everything now haha
uh how i wish ARG returns
Serious question
Who is the character you play as?
I know you are known as an "Anomaly", but like, do we know who he/she is supposed to be? Like where they came from?
@uncut harness @mild condor either of you know?
You play as a Dreamer in 1.5. An ordinary traveler beforehand.
Both are travelers
But the dreamer is special in its regard
There’s some text at the beginning that suggests some sort of connection to #2311T that’s ambiguous as hell, so you may have a connection to them (which is extremely likely given how they were the only ones not to escape the W/ARE experiment). But it would be ignorant not to point out how each of the real life exosuits the Dreamers were wearing are all mixed and matched in the simulation, so it may be all of them too. Nobody knows for sure
So Post-Next, you're a Dreamer. But Pre-Next, you were created by Atlas as a Traveler?
But you're an "Anomaly", as far as I know.
Yeah I disagree
We were but not anymore. We’re still part of the Traveller protocol but not the same Travellers I cited by the Atlas
So
incited*
That makes us Anomalies
Why else are traditional travelers and anomalies separated in the race menu
We don't fit exactly within Traveler, but we are placed there technically.
And since the plot still says you’re a traveller, you could consider yourself one even though you have an altered origin story (or otherwise the game just ignores how there’s been a change and you really did force yourself so much into the simulation it doesn’t even know itself)
Also the term traveller anomaly was used before 1.5
Hence, Anomaly. There is no category for your character within the system's files. You don't fit under Traveler, Gek, Vy'keen, or Korvax.
The game referred to us as an anomaly for a while now. That’s why I’m not a big fan of the name of the Dreamers in the game lol
It can get confusing
Including the name of Nada and Polo’s starship
Errrr station
That's why I've been on this "Do not trust anyone" notion. The Travelers are not with you. Polo and Nada aren't with you. Atlas isn't with you.
Also everyone who once said season one is a prequel to all of No Man’s Sky even before 1.3 is ignoring how the implication sounds more like a prequel story to 1.3’s storyline. Also, Emily is an Atlas AI, but not the Atlas. At least that’s what I think from what I’ve read
Emily?
What’s that
And since the ARG is a prequel to 1.3’s storyline (IMO), No Man’s Sky did exist before, or we’ve got a plot hole from the vlogs Emily did when Loop16 was masquerading
They only want you to believe that everything around you is real.
Atlas makes you believe it is a sort of dying God that needs to be pitied so you don't think twice about him.
The Travelers were created by Atlas, so who's to say what they are doing isn't nearly a protocol to distract you?
Nada and Polo are also distractions. They don't want you to think about ahy you exist, merely to push you to explore and do "Daily Quests" for false earnings.
Well from what I know Atlas really is dying
Oh wait lol I just got what you meant never mind
Yeah lol
Yeah I don’t get why it did it either
Not very smart. All it did was make things even more existential
So my theory is that you can't trust anyone. Atlas created this universe.
Every creature/sentinel is his eyes and ears. No matter what, you are being watched.
Ring lore is still my favorite. Also the World of Glass. ARG is good and I’m better articulated in it but it’s hard to follow if you weren’t in it
He knows you don't belong in the system and that you can ruin everything, so his goal is to make you believe you are part of it.
Telamon is a good example. The AI that is supposed to make sure he doesn't go rampant, gets locked into your Exosuit.
@mild condor That's why he erased your memories

