#nms-spoilers

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tulip tangle
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Im honestly dissappointed in the lifeless-type exotics

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They are nothing

astral vapor
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Im not

tulip tangle
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theyre like atmo-less planets without the beautiful airless space-sky

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The living exotics are at least vaguely interesting to land on

astral vapor
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Maybe some could have an airless sky and some could not

tulip tangle
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But the clacified and metallics and stuff, they dont even have the common decency to offer resources worth noting

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less than regular planets

astral vapor
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I like the strider or "cable" ones the most

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maybe they should be more rare

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but offer new resources

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and maybe versions with grass

tulip tangle
astral vapor
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and new color types n stuff

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I don't see those ones as anomolous

tulip tangle
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You see im standing on that tree?

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Its like 400 ft tall

astral vapor
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didnt notice that

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Yeah

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I love the cabled planets

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so much could be done

tulip tangle
astral vapor
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the big tall things could walk

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oOoOOoO

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Nice

tulip tangle
astral vapor
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ye

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looks cool

tulip tangle
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I discovered this diplo plabnet months ago, its color scheme has changed twice lol

astral vapor
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ooooooo

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diplo

tulip tangle
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Used to be the turquiose grass and light orange sky

astral vapor
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o

tulip tangle
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i like its new colors better though

astral vapor
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yeah

tulip tangle
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I have one more eissentam diplo if you want

astral vapor
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ooooooooooooooooooo

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im in euclid

tulip tangle
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When you get to the choice at the end of the story, choose "Tranquil"

astral vapor
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ik

tulip tangle
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the gren ball, not the blue one

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nobody likes blue balls

astral vapor
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lol

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ik which

tulip tangle
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Eissentam is king

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its better than sex

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better than being alive or having people care about you

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Euclid is a dumpster fire that is so bad that we should agree to murder the devs

astral vapor
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nah

tulip tangle
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oh

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youre right I remember now

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Theyre actually really similar

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But euclid is slightly inferior

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And being there is kinda like having your GF tell you that your best freinds %$% felt better because it was half an inch longer

astral vapor
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o

tulip tangle
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One of these days a Mod will notice that they forgot to ban me for being a monster

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There he is

visual mirage
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Nah, we're watching ❤

astral vapor
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o lol

tulip tangle
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Arre you on PC or console?

astral vapor
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console

tulip tangle
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aw

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no wanton, highly destructive modding rampages for you

mental socket
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I keep coming here in hopes of leaks or stuff found in the game files

tulip tangle
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@mental socket You want modding channels

mental socket
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Nnnope. Usually the leaks have put out on here too

timid mist
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Yeah I've not seen stuff put in the modding channel lol

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Usually here

mental socket
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if I want to know about mods I go to modding channel

astral vapor
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I had another NMS related dream

uncut harness
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😏

astral vapor
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lol

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There was a new race with unique freighters

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and they were hostile

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and you could go on their freighters and try to kill them

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and if you died on one of them you'd wake up in the freighter but it was crashed

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they could also fly low in the atmosphere

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there were also abandoned cities

icy citrus
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Interesting

astral vapor
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yeah

icy citrus
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But not really spoilers silly

astral vapor
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i knowz

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or are they

icy citrus
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😱

uncut harness
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😮

astral vapor
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Are you implanting these things into my mind Gleam Murray?

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I knew it

icy citrus
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Not it

astral vapor
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hmmmmm

icy citrus
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No really, we never send you brainwaves

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Seriously

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I mean it

astral vapor
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Wait

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The brainwaves thing in WT

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.>

icy citrus
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Shit

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Forget this ever happened

astral vapor
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🚓

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O ok

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I wonder what brainwaves actually wouldve been tbh

icy citrus
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Can’t say, nda

astral vapor
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o

astral vapor
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lol

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mayhaps

worldly epoch
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I just realized that artemis's little thing in the space anomaly is just simulationception

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................And I just realized that the reason artemis might be in some unknown void is because of the death of nada + polo + presumably the anomly with them

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She's just a part of the loop like everybody else

mighty rampart
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how long is the null quest?

uncut harness
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You're given a choice to leave the galaxy and go to a new one or stay in that galaxy.

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Correct, nothing "amazing". Each galaxy spawns more of a planet type, that's it really.

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No reason to leave Euclid galaxy.

worldly epoch
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it makes a new system

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and then it just points you to some random black hole

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so it's not too special

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Also I made the choice to leave Euclid, and I can say it was a bad decision. Sure it's refreshing to an extent, especially with a different color for the center (It's red in hilbert instead of white) but I lost every base I owned.

mental socket
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it is

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base on a freighter will never be lost unless you change freighters

uncut harness
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I think so

mental socket
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Been playing since day one. Got a freighter when they first got introduced and can confirm they won't. With next we did lose our freighter bases because of the interior layout change

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So you should be able to keep the feighter base forever unless they decide to change the layout again

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Your bases won't technically be lost either when changing galaxies. They are just left in the previous galaxy and only way of jumping back is to go through all of the galaxies until you're back in Euclid

worldly epoch
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Lol.

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Only takes 255 times

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And yeah I have my freighter base still

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I still have my freighter from euclid too

tribal coyote
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Saying this here as it may be a spoiler for some, but damn I did not expect this game to give me some feels. Just came back after playing at release and finding Artemis' grave got me a little.

mighty rampart
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I didn't feel much, it was pretty predictable for me

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But when the point came where I had the choice of letting him live in the simulation or die peacefully, got me all mentally rekt

mighty rampart
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Isn't the Atlas supposed to take my Heart of the Sun?

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I still have it in my inventory

mighty rampart
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Oh no my game broke
It's making me redo the mind arc mission and now it's stuck at "answers may be found in the stars"

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Going to a different system fixed it

worldly epoch
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Good news for me, I accidentally found out how to fix the problem on my main involving Remembrance whilst trying to find the time value so I can let polo do the next milestone thingy for me

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.....And I think I just found it

thick seal
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hey, umm is the wiki lore on artemis complete? because I'm not sure if I understood the atlas storyline completely.

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what was the purpose of the reset? is the atlas still gonna die in 16 mins even AFTER the reset?

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or you reset the universe so atlas doesn't die? I didn't get the whole reset part with artemis what was the reason for it?

uncut harness
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16 minutes on an alien timeline.
ATLAS knows it's dying and believes a reset is the only choice to save itself.

thick seal
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the rogue data on wiki doesn't make much sense at all

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why though? like it's windows is frozen so it wants to restart it? 😄

uncut harness
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Corrupted data, more like a fresh install of the OS.

thick seal
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I mean what's the significance of resetting one universe if it's simulating countless ones at the same time?

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but after you reset it the anomaly glitches are still there

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shouldn't the reset have removed the corrupted travelers and multiplayer then?

uncut harness
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The reset starts a new universe.

thick seal
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but the new universe still has glitched travelers in it, so the reset didn't do much?

uncut harness
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The glitches are part of another entity that is as powerful as Atlas.

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It's 2 simulations merging together in the simplest of terms.

thick seal
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but after you reset, isn't a dialog somewhere that says I don't know how much 16 mins is in my world, so that means the atlas is still dying in 16 mins of real time no?

uncut harness
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16 minutes Atlas time.

thick seal
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yeah 16 mins of real time even after reset so atlas is still gonna die after reset?

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also the rogue data said that atlas could only simulate until a point where someone puts its hands on the chassis

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so every time it simulates a universe it always ends the same and it knows the reset won't save it because atlas already saw the end before?

uncut harness
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No, it resets cause it thinks it's dying. It's been reset a number of times previous to the reset that you do.

thick seal
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the rogue data is what's confusing

uncut harness
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There's another entity as powerful as Atlas, storyline of that was setup with The Abyss.
Doing the underwater missions may help that make a little bit more sense.

thick seal
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null said there was one universe where sentinels went rogue and killed everyone, but he apparently also reset the universe he was in, were they the same universe? I mean did null reset the universe where sentinels killed everyone?

uncut harness
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Yes.

thick seal
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oh I had no idea about that, there wasn't anything on wiki for abyss

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so why is null sorry for doing it if everyone was already killed by sentinels?

uncut harness
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Cause he has already reset and knows what happens after.

thick seal
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he feels guilty for resetting a universe with no life in it because sentinels killed them all?

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oh so he's just scarred we're gonna reset HIM?

uncut harness
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Simply put yes but he's also aware that it's a repeating loop.

thick seal
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I still don't get the reset though 😰

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is atlas gonna die for real or not? does it reset like everytime it gets down to 16 min or something?

uncut harness
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It's already "died" many times over.

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This isn't the first reset of Atlas and won't be the last.

thick seal
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then what's the significance of 16 mins then? every time it's reset it has 16 mins left or it'll blow up?

uncut harness
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16 minutes until Atlas restarts.

thick seal
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😵

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AFTER you reset it, 16 mins of atlas time until everything AFTER the reset is deleted?

uncut harness
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Yes, exactly.

thick seal
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then why does it put you in a new universe immediately? the NEW universe you get put in is what's getting reset not the old one? #mindblown

uncut harness
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Old one is deleted, new one is after the reset.

thick seal
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so the command you give the ai deletes euclid, regenerates a new universe with your parameters, then what happens after?

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what happens after the actual reset I mean?

uncut harness
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New galaxy is created for you to explore but the Atlas thinks it's dying again.

thick seal
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so it gets reset twice effectively?

uncut harness
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More than twice.

thick seal
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you soft reset it, then after a while it hard resets itself?

uncut harness
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Infinitely

thick seal
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one cycle

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one cycle is two resets?

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'cuz it deletes your original universe, then it deletes the new universe too after 16 mins?

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why does it delete the original universe? isn't euclid gonna be gone anyway after 16 mins are up? why regenerate a new one on the spot if the actual reset is gonna do it anyway?

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I mean why regenerate twice? just wait for reset?

uncut harness
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Imagine if you was to do a fresh install of your operating system but choose to delete all personal files.

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It's basically that.

thick seal
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but the personal files were in euclid 😦

uncut harness
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Yes, they're now gone.

thick seal
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atlas like deleted the personal files and was like oops, maybe play some minesweeper in the meantime while I'm reformatting

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then you put more personal files on the new galaxy, 16 mins end and it deletes them too

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it deletes your files twice then be like deal with it 😄

uncut harness
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No, 16 minutes until reset is complete.

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Completely fresh and new operating system.

thick seal
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what happens when 16 mins are over in your NEW galaxy?

uncut harness
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Reset

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New galaxy

thick seal
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you mean reset as in with no warning or like traveler quest?

uncut harness
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Exactly the same storyline in new galaxy.

thick seal
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I mean one full cycle is new galaxy to reset or new galaxy to reset to new galaxy

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I mean when you choose to reset, you have 16 mins until the next CHOICE or next auto reset?

uncut harness
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Next auto reset.

thick seal
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then it deletes you twice

uncut harness
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Infinitely.

thick seal
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so you choose to reset instantly, then after 16 more mins atlas resets itself 'cuz screw you, then after that it thinks it's gonna die again and makes another traveler to reset it and so on?

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it probably should've figured out by now that whatever's wrong with it, resetting ain't gonna fix it 😂

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I thought it was dying permanently 'cuz the battery or whatever was running out and THIS one was its last reset before RIP

mighty rampart
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Does the Artemis quest keep repeating itself or did I get myself into a bug

uncut harness
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You choosing to reset starts the process, it's not instant. It starts the procedure of wiping data and re-installing the OS.
Atlas thinks it's dying and is trying to save itself, each reset the Atlas changes something in the hope that it will save itself but thinks it's still dying anyway.
Travellers are created by Atlas to save itself.

thick seal
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my atlas quest is bugged and repeats itself with star cores, my artemis is explore galaxy open ended

uncut harness
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There is another entity that is as powerful as Atlas that also has as much control and power over the simulation that the Atlas does.

mighty rampart
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Yeah my Atlas didn't take the heart of the sun

thick seal
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Atlas AI is so smart it keeps scamming me out of star cores 😔

mighty rampart
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Not sure if I should throw it away or no

thick seal
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oh I get it now, it's like a gradual format that STARTS with euclid like a hdd partition

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it eventually deletes everything after 16 mins, you just might be the last drive right?

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you reset it, euclid is like drive c it goes instantly

mighty rampart
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Hey @thick seal if you're in a diff galaxy then you can't use portals to come back to Euclid, right?

thick seal
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you can use portals to go different galaxies????

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pretty sure you can't go to any galaxy not just euclic

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but you can go back to euclid if you go to center 255 times

mighty rampart
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I mean if you use someone's coords that are in Euclid but you're in eiss

thick seal
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you get on different planets

mighty rampart
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Figured

thick seal
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someone gave me a euclid base for niple buds from euclid

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it kicked me on an extreme ice planets in eisen 😄

mighty rampart
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Yeah I ain't leaving then

thick seal
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it wouldn't even be the same planet

mighty rampart
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🤔 well not on my main save

thick seal
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is it implied that the race who created atlas was humans?

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or it's just the looks and nothing in the texts

uncut harness
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Unknown.

thick seal
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the wiki says it's an unknown race but the untranslated dialogs are english

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he looks human and speaks english🤔

tulip tangle
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The Atlas was created by Sean Murray

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and his team

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But theyre a terrible dev company so the Atlas was seriously flawed

timid mist
icy citrus
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You are a terrible dev company

peak prairie
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@mighty rampart the heart of the sun is used when you choose the next Galaxy or something

versed jackal
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Heart of the sun is used at the end of the atlas path to "create a new star", and is also used for a crafting recipe for the remembrance which you get after finishing the main storyline(artemis)

thick seal
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!gdwiki

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bot ded

uncut harness
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Not really

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You played the story right?

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Only I can do it

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The Artemis storyline?

thick seal
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atlas and artemis quests

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the atlas was pretty nonsense tbh

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where is my galaxy?

uncut harness
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The Atlas was before Artemis storyline was implemented.

thick seal
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the atlas quest was pretty much a 🖕 for completing it

uncut harness
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Not really

thick seal
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atlas wasted your time for nothing

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then gimme my galaxy lol

uncut harness
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Has some good lore

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that helps explain the artemis story

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a bit more

thick seal
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it just confused the artemis story for me

uncut harness
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heh

thick seal
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what's the point of creating new galaxy if you're gonna reset?

uncut harness
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That's WHY you reset.

thick seal
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atlas asks you to give him some nut knowing he will delete the kid

uncut harness
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The atlas wants you to reset

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it doesn't want to die

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The Atlas is dying

thick seal
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but why take heart of sun?

uncut harness
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It asks for you to reset it

thick seal
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no I mean atlas path

plucky marsh
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the ARG confuses me

thick seal
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what's the point of heart of sun?

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if you make a new galaxy with it

uncut harness
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To reset

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the atlas

thick seal
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atlas will delete it 'cuz reset

uncut harness
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it also gives stat boosts

thick seal
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but artemis path will delete the galaxy you made in atlas path

uncut harness
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I think

thick seal
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isn't atlas simulating UNIVERSES not galaxies?

uncut harness
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Reset is Atlas's attempt to save itself.

thick seal
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255 galaxies is in his 1 universe

uncut harness
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The Atlas is simulating a universe yes

thick seal
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whatever you made with heart of sun will get deleted when reset

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so why tf is atlas making new galaxies within a universe that he will soon reset?

uncut harness
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It's not making new galaxies

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When the Atlas resets

thick seal
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atlas knows it's gonna reset, why ask for heart of sun? it will be deleted anyway after the reset because it's in the current universe

uncut harness
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so does the universe

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so the galaxy is named something else now

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because it got reset

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Also apparently there are other universes as well

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other Atlas's

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^

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Which is what The Abyss introduced.

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When MP was introduced the lore said that the universes were colliding or some hippy shit

thick seal
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I know, maybe there's a misunderstanding somewhere.

uncut harness
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And that different travellers were glitching into other universes

thick seal
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When you give atlas heart of sun, does it not add a galaxy to the CURRENT universe with it?

uncut harness
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but only as orbs

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Basically lore-wise, MP is just a giant bug in the code of the Atlas

plucky marsh
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travellers supposedly only one for one universe. now we are... seeing each others.

thick seal
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atlas takes your heart of sun and makes a new galaxy with it IN CURRENT UNIVERSE

uncut harness
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Yes but you also need to understand we had this option BEFORE the Artemis storyline was introduced.

thick seal
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when you reset CURRENT UNIVERSE the galaxy you made will be gone too

uncut harness
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Travellers are muliverse

thick seal
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so atlas didn't know he was dying then?

uncut harness
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only reason they are in the same universe now

thick seal
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even though he got reset multiple times?

uncut harness
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is because

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the boundaries broke

thick seal
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then atlas is just dumb 😛

uncut harness
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The Atlas is just panicking.

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Yup

thick seal
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so basically when he asked for heart of sun atlas didn't know it will be wasted?

uncut harness
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It knows

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It's to save itself

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^

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from something

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This is the equivalent of you begging for your life if someone was threatning you.

thick seal
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like how? it's a machine it just follows though algorithms how can it panick?

uncut harness
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"I'll do anything"

thick seal
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AI doesn't have feelings it's simulating feelings for other races

uncut harness
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Basically it will get reset either way and it knows, so it asks you to reset it now because it will be less painful

thick seal
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didn't it also have a monitoring protocol called idk what that for whatever reason talks in your spacesuit now?

uncut harness
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No, your suit is called Telamon.

thick seal
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wouldn't it be his job to deal with the problem instead of atlas itself?

uncut harness
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Not part of Atlas.

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Yeah this traveller became the voice of our suits

plucky marsh
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Atlas is a very very very advanced AI beyond our current understanding xD

uncut harness
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called Telamon

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He questioned things a bit too much

thick seal
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yeah isn't it his job to fix this problem?

uncut harness
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No, you got picked to fix this problem.

visual mirage
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Telamon was a traveller that came before, I think?

uncut harness
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Yup

thick seal
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Telamon wasn't Atlas security protocol was it?

uncut harness
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Hmmm

thick seal
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didn't atlas have a security protocol above itself?

uncut harness
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I don't think so

thick seal
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then it had sentinels below

uncut harness
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Oh yes

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It did

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Telamon was not the protocol though

thick seal
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what happened to the security protocol? it had ONE job 😄

uncut harness
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It failed

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😛

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Hahaha

visual mirage
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...Telamon, a security sub-protocol designed to monitor the Atlas in case of rampancy.

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So, he was the protocol.

uncut harness
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Oh

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Oh!

thick seal
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so the reason atlas simulated travelers in the first place isn't because they're from the corrupted memory of atlas's creator? atlas doesn't know what to do, maybe its simulated creator might know?

uncut harness
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Guess he was

visual mirage
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That's correct

thick seal
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I thought the whole point of anomalies existing was because atlas is dumb as shit but can simulate its creator who is smart.

uncut harness
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Mhm

visual mirage
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`In its fear, in its confusion, the ATLAS awakens. It attempts to summon its creator back into being.

It wants to know what to do before the end. It wants to know why it was abandoned, why it has to face this moment alone. It wants to know why I left it behind.`

thick seal
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so the logical step would be to simulate the creator or whatever's left of it.

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yes exactly, anomalies are the race that created atlas. so atlas does have a creator.

uncut harness
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The Atlas is a little baby who got left alone with way too much power

visual mirage
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^

uncut harness
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and is now panicking

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It might have a creator

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But we will never know

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because rip loop16

thick seal
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Some alien race made atlas, it became obsolete then left it. Some dude was supposed to turn off atlas but instead of turning it off he decided to let atlas scan his brain 'cuz what could go wrong. Right?

visual mirage
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It does have a Creator

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Says so in the first rogue data

thick seal
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turns out the creators weren't that smart either afterall 😄

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I would've pulled the plug then nuked the place lmao

visual mirage
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What we don't know is WHY the Creator left. It just does.

thick seal
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like that's the most dangerous machine on your entire planet, why tf would you give it your brain?

uncut harness
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Oh shit

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maybe when Emily died

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The creator left

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Emily was the creator

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😩

thick seal
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the dude still let himself be simulated in atlas though it's not like atlas kidnapped or hijacked his brain or something

visual mirage
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The rogue data was in before all that happened, though, right?

uncut harness
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Oh right

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it was

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1.3

visual mirage
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Yep.

thick seal
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that was probably the biggest mistake of all😖

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letting yourself be scanned by a machine that simulates universes is pretty high on the list of dumbest things that you can possibly do🤗

uncut harness
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Why? I'd do it if I built it.

thick seal
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still I put artemis in a simulation for lulz

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I mean it's already a simulation so who cares, what difference does it make how many layers deep it goes so I just put artemis in the machine thing

violet narwhal
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That's kind of the whole plot of SOMA...

thick seal
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it's not like I'm in a better situation that artemis myself so

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🤔

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what happened to him in the end anyway? his communication just ended

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I told him the truth and he was cool with it then radio silence

uncut harness
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Gone exploring.

thick seal
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yeah but what happened after the finished exploring? why not call his best buddy back? 😦

uncut harness
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Cause he's having fun exploring.

thick seal
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maybe he got rekt by sentinels or something he would've called me

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artemis was my bae

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he either killed himself or sentinels killed him, no way he just forgot about the guy who saved him

uncut harness
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Or maybe you're just not showing on his/her Holocommunicator anymore. 🤷

thick seal
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gotta go back and slap that computer then

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or maybe turn it off and on so it would work again

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😬

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if he wasn't dead already he will be after that 😊

uncut harness
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Also, to confuse you more.

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This is Emily.

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She is/was Atlas.

thick seal
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damn feels like i missed the party😢

plucky marsh
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emily is scary

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im too noob for any args

thick seal
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you could already tell someone's first vlog doesn't look like that though🤔

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that mic and camera probably costs more than my whole laptop 🤗

uncut harness
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It was a lot of fun tbh

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I hope they start the ARG up again for the newcomers.

thick seal
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I like how he kept saying she's bad at stuff but she's better than like most other people 😬

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and I mean not in a humble way, like skynet pretending it's dumb so you won't pull its plug before it gets enough power 👌

uncut harness
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Many people commented on that too, thought she may be purposely leading us in the wrong direction.

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But it kinda worked out in the end.

thick seal
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is she like a famous actor or a dev team member?

uncut harness
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Not famous actor

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Not a dev team member either

thick seal
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tbh she could probably audition for big movies this is too good

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wait no one knows who she actually is yet? lol

uncut harness
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I think it's best to keep it a secret

thick seal
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dat production quality tho😱

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wish "SOME famous streamers" would learn from this

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shame it didn't get more views 😦

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is the view counter right? this deserves 100k-200k at the very least just for the production quality

uncut harness
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ARG's aren't for everyone

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Yeah but not everyone likes ARG's

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The quality is too good

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That's for sure

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It's amazing

thick seal
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but it would still be an excellent how to do vlogs guide 😬

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there are theater movies in 2018 that are utter garbage, a couple of youtube videos can be better than big budget movies we really live in sad times 😦

uncut harness
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Same tbh

thick seal
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instead garbage youtubers that prank abuse kids get the top views

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like those assholes who were "pranking" their own kids for millions of views (if you could call that pranking)

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with an iphone 3 camera 😐

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seriously this mic probably costs 5 times my entire headset

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and shout out to devs too, how they went from the worst game of 2017 (possible decade :D) to this 👏

uncut harness
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They gave us all of that at no extra cost.
Just a way of showing us how much they appreciate us.

thick seal
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tbh that's the most impressive thing

uncut harness
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"Here, have some fun."

thick seal
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yeah they had absolutely no (legal) obligation to do any of this

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❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤

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shows that they truly care about the game, the actual game not the 🤑

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also shows how forgiving, mature and understanding the gaming community as a whole is

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do this in the music industry and you're done for life 😄

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but they were given a second chance and did the most they could with it 💓

uncut harness
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This server was a lot smaller back then too.

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So with all the new people here, I imagine the ARG being even more fun.

thick seal
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tbh I'm not personally interested in ARGs much myself

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it's kinda a niche thing

uncut harness
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It's fun to watch the hivemind.

thick seal
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yeah it's fun when you watch others do it 😛

uncut harness
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It is.

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I used to stop what I was doing to watch the livestreams.

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Watch them from beginning to end.

thick seal
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wait hmm

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how was it confirmed that she was related to the work by the dev team?

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I mean the vidoes are conclusive proof or am I missing something?

uncut harness
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She appeared in other communities.

thick seal
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I mean a random person could've done this too though?

uncut harness
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Including here.

thick seal
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yeah but she apparently knew things AFTER they happened only?

uncut harness
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The website that linked her turned into the atlas-65 forums.

thick seal
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she was trying to act as she's in on in but she didn't say anything before someone else already knew

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anyone can register any unused domain tho?

uncut harness
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There's a ton of websites that were used in the ARG.

thick seal
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actually I think I'm changing my mind BECAUSE she's TOO convincing 🤔

uncut harness
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Puzzles pointed us to websites and IP addresses.

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Then from them websites there were more puzzles which pointed to new places.

thick seal
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she found the puzzles?

uncut harness
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No, we did.

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Actually

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She did

thick seal
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who did? 😄

uncut harness
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She pointed us to co-ordinates on a planet in NMS.

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Which started a chain of events.

thick seal
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that someone else "allegedly" found?

uncut harness
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Yes

thick seal
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idk she sounds too fishy it's almost like she wants us to believe she's in on it🤗

uncut harness
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Lots of stuff were posted on the forums.

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The forums now point to the Atlas-65 forums which is Citizen Science Division.

thick seal
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idk man but I'd bet my money on her not being in on it, at least from not from the beginning. maybe just very smart, or a friend of devs/staff.

uncut harness
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It's very well thought out.

thick seal
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maybe she got recruited half way through or something

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if I wanted to sound smart without actually knowing anything, that first vlog would be exactly how I'd do it😊

uncut harness
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😛

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It fooled us for a LONG time.

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She was just a rando like us.

thick seal
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this is what I do all the time but don't tell anyone😊

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I know it when I see it 😬

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I'd bet she's not in on it 💸

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idk where she got the mic and camera and the editor tho lol

uncut harness
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She is on it, she died at the end of last season.

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She setup the livestreams and connected us with the dreamers.

thick seal
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then she got recruited half way in🤐

uncut harness
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Then sacrificed herself to save a young boy.

thick seal
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they picked up the most influential player

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plot twist😎

uncut harness
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Naw, many more influential people than her.

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She works for the ARG company that's for sure.

thick seal
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then that's 11/10👍

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still not buying it but if it's true then she did a phenomenal job👏

plucky marsh
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our universe is a simulation D:

mental socket
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anything new found in the files after 1.77?

violet narwhal
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I looked at the text, nothing interesting there.

thick seal
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that's actually a real debate though rose

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even elon musk has talked about it, there was a debate on simulation theory in 2016 hosted by neil degrasee tyseon if I'm not mistaken

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I'd highly recommend watching that

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what I'm trying to say is that simulation theory isn't a joke in the science community, there are actual scientists working on it (although very few)

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we MIGHT very well be in a simulation right now

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I personally don't think we are but the simulation argument is very compelling

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and I stress that it's not a joke/troll paper👌

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that dude nick bostrom is pretty (in)famous for this in fact

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@plucky marsh ^

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the thing with simulation hypothesis is that we're assuming that the only barrier to simulating entire universes is computing power, or in other words, given enough processing power, universes can be simulated on a computer. what's not often discussed is whether it is even possible to simulate universes, like with quantum mechanics and chaos theory, we will need infinite precision or an algorithm that can at least generate infinite precision data in order to be able to simulate a universe. the concept of consciousness and soul is a whole another debate, but is a Turing machine even capable of simulating universes? the hypothesis assumes the answer is yes.

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right now, we need more and more processing power to simulate atoms with more accuracy, but is that enough? imagine you had access to a computer with infinite processing power, HOW will you simulate a universe? or in other words, how do you first prove that it is possible for a turing machine to simulate a universe accurately, including consciousness ?

pseudo frost
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I need a drink

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This is just so much

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😩

thick seal
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bro you're gonna need more than drinks for this lol

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want some nip nips?

pseudo frost
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I mean I know about the theories

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But it just .makes no sense reading about it

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Like we can't do shit even if we find we are in a simulation

thick seal
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didn't I just link that?

uncut harness
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I just posted sources showing we are not.

thick seal
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yeah I just linked one of those above lol

pseudo frost
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Nice then

thick seal
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but still even then the problem with those is that IF we WERE in a simulation

uncut harness
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Our universe follows the same structure as a hologram universe.

thick seal
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then any data IN the simulation is fabricated, so we can't just assume 1st that it's correct and 2nd OUR laws of physics apply to the layer above our universe

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the point is, it's kinda a weird one in a sense that there are very compelling arguments for both sides

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it's kinda like god where you can't prove or disprove it

uncut harness
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Dude, flat earth theory exists.

thick seal
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that makes it not a good scientific theory

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it's more of a philosophical debate that goes way back than the invention of computers and nick bostrom

uncut harness
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You can argue literally anything as evidence proves to both yes and no with literally everything.

thick seal
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the notion that reality is a dream isn't new

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the simulation theory is just a new skin for it

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but a theory has to be falsifiable otherwise it's not a good theory

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lmao yeah tbh you could argue for literally anything

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the new evidence shows that a computer BOUND BY OUR laws of physics cannot simulate our own universe

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which means in the future we will never be able to run ancestor simulations of our own past

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sadly that only knocks out half of nick's premises 😂

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slap "what if aliens?" on it and you'll have a round 2 to go 😦

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his paper's still very interesting though even if you don't believe in it

uncut harness
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Oh for sure.

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And tbh it will open other possibilities and advance other research.

thick seal
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interesting in the "bruh what the actual fuck you been smoking" kind of way🤗

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like what train of thought passes this station

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and it messes with your head because no matter how hard you try, you just can't disprove it

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then you think, hold on a sec, what if it's actually right?😱

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that's not a problem with flat earth theory, it's pure bs and you CAN easily disprove it

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you can filter out most of the nonsense with the scientific method, it's the few ones you can't that are truly scary

elder mulch
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@uncut harness that's correct, everything CAN be argued as evidence for whatever. the question is whether people can come to multiple, rational, logical, conclusions from that same evidence. Most times you can, in fact, have multiple conclusions that are all rational, logical, conclusions using the same evidence. the hope is that as you continue to gather evidence, the additional evidence will support one conclusion over others.

uncut harness
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Hexmas Stocking (Liar)Today at 3:45 PM
Oh for sure.
And tbh it will open other possibilities and advance other research.

elder mulch
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i think the real problem is less that people can come to a conclusion from available evidence that our universe is a simulation, and more a problem of our concept of reality. it is perfectly feasible the "reality" IS a simulation, that isn't really problematic unless of course you just absolutely are not willing to accept that idea on a personal level, for personal existential insecurity reasons.

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accepting it's a simulation doen't change anything. reality as we know it keeps on chugging either way. it just opens up directions we can explore philosophically and scientifically when trying to determine how we can manipulate the universe around us, which is what we've always done, look for new ways to utilize the universe we exist in. and if the simulation theory is correct, perhaps even leave the universe we exist in, or at least glimpse part of that reality that exists outside the simulation.

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in the case of NMS I get the impression that existence is toroidal. that is, the simulation is the reality it is simulating. they created a computer capable of so accurately simulating their universe that it actually is the universe. that which happens in the simulation happens in the external unverse because they are one in the same. ATLAS freaks out upon discovering this because it is about to be destroyed. the only solution: restart the simulation, else everything ends.

elder mulch
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on an interesting side note, we can actually define a universe mathematically with a finer resolution than our own real universe has. so we could actually write a program that defines a minimum resolution of a simulated universe far smaller than the Planck length. food for thought. Our universe actually has a minimum resolution, if it is a simulation it's creators clearly weren't interested in giving it any better resolution and instead spent the presumably finite system resources on other things. They could have (mathematically) given it finer resolution and didn't. so either they were bumping up against their own technical limitations, or decided a finer resolution wasn't needed, asuming it is a simulation.

pseudo frost
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So slight spoilers

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The creature we got in a zoo

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Is a specific new creature

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Which has its own animation specific for terrarium

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So I think it's not possible to add in other creature (say via modding)

uncut harness
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Oh, well that's mildly disappointing.

peak prairie
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I mean if the skeleton is basic...

mental socket
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@pseudo frost but could you replace the the model of that creature with another one

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without changing the actual creature

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if it even is a creature or just looping animation of one

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like the fishes in the aquarium

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can you even feed it? Does it make any noise?

mighty rampart
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Holy shit lmao I thought my game glitched and going through the portal made me clip out of my ship

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It was just part of the story

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Aaaa can someone help pls if I go to the centre for the final Atlas station will the game force me to go to the next galaxy or can I choose to stay?

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Ok I looked up wiki nvm

uncut harness
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You can choose @mighty rampart

real sapphire
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@rugged seal 178m for that freighter

rugged seal
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not bad at all

maiden vortex
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i neever got my free freighter :////

floral yarrow
#

Hot take. No Man's Sky is secretly a horror game.

mighty rampart
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@floral yarrow yeah some Jacob's Ladder shit going on

coarse zenith
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What

floral yarrow
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Nah. It's not lovecraftian.

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It's psychological. pepethink

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Especially during Overseer's questline where he turned bitter, and angry. Scientist being stuck in constant memory reloop and you can do nothing to help him. Armorer dying of old ages wishing immortality, and then all these travelers you've stumbled across in your travel.

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These travelers?

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They're all dead, jim. They're all dead.

languid ridge
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Hay guys, a question for you: havent reached the center of the galaxy so far, but if i do so i will be "warped" to a new one and have to start again? Do you lose all your tech/stuff/ships? And as far as i understood you can try to reach the center of this new galaxy. How many galaxys are there? Or are there infinite galaxys? thank you!

icy citrus
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You will be warped to the next one if you go to the center
You don’t lose anything but your bases (which you could disassemble manually beforehand) and your active ships tech, suit tech and multitool tech will be damaged

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256 galaxies you can reach, counting the one you start in

languid ridge
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@icy citrus okay thank you. And is there any point in reaching the center of the last galaxy?

icy citrus
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If you went through the rest - then you have to I would think. Gameplay wise you loop back to Euclid - but from what I understand it isn’t named Euclid, it gets a procgen name, but mirrors Euclid. I might be behind the times on that one though - either way you go back to 1

languid ridge
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hm okay, not really special, considering the amount of time you have to invest

icy citrus
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Correct

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No extra lore or anything

languid ridge
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thynk you for clarification!

icy citrus
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😃

versed jackal
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Nah it euclid in full

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galaxy id and all

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might have been different before atlas rises but since atlas rises it goes back to euclid

uncut harness
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@uncut harness if i say to him '16' is the atlas, is that a spoiler? sorry if that sounds like a dumb question but i just want to know just in case

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Good question, I'd personally class it as a spoiler.

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Okay, thanks

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I mean, you can always ask if he's interested and just tag him in here.

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i can do that

gusty berry
uncut harness
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Man, that just has so many questions waiting to be asked.

gusty berry
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I mean you can ask whatever question you want

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whether I answer is another issue

uncut harness
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What is life

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42

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:gunfingers:

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That asset to the very right is quite obviously some sort of battery.

gusty berry
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it is

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but that's not a question

uncut harness
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Giant barrel?

gusty berry
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cooling unit

uncut harness
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Oh

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So left to right is Solar > Wind > ?? > Coolant > Battery?

gusty berry
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pump

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can't be arsed to edit the scene myself

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same with the turrets and distributor that doesn't have an buildtable ID

uncut harness
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Hold on a minute.

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Forcefield fence, turrets and distributor is vanilla and not modded?

gusty berry
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the scenes and geometries are in the files

uncut harness
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Wow, that changes everything.

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I assumed these were your mods.

gusty berry
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I won't bother typing out the path cos no one cares

uncut harness
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That's a very good point.

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I am now super curious what HG has/had planned for these.

gusty berry
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inb4 HG makes you build generators to power up your 1000 fucking lightbulbs

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cos a wall light ID is in the power grid list

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I'd post that on reddit but all people do these days are accusing me of trolling

pseudo frost
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If anyone wants to see how these could work

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Just look at a game called Eden star

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It has exact same shit

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Also

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It means we will actually have some mob enemy coming

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Against which we will probably use the fences and turrets for

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Which is how it worked in Eden star too

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😩

uncut harness
#

Oh well that is certainly interesting.

pseudo frost
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Yeah

uncut harness
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If I need to be protecting myself AND my base, I'm down.

pseudo frost
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Yeah

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Eden star does that wondefully

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It's amazing how it's done there

uncut harness
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I'm just watching a gameplay now.

pseudo frost
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Oh nice

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Put it here

uncut harness
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Checked it out as soon as you commented about it.

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I'm on this one atm

pseudo frost
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Yeah I used to play it

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It's so fun protecting your base tbh

uncut harness
#

I'd love to know the plan for NMS though.

pseudo frost
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I think we will have new mob fiends

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That attack bases

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The fences we're used to protect the base from the swarms

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I guess it will function similarly

peak prairie
#

I mean, an anti sentinel fence would be nice

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Get them to stop making noise around my base

plucky marsh
#

I would love to have turrets

mental socket
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Well some people on here found base building part files for turrets, solar panels, wires and wind turbines. Those are probably work in progress features that we'll get in next month or later @mild condor

uncut harness
#

Is there any benefit from playing on survival instead of normal?

icy citrus
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No, just a bit harder is all - and not by much

violet narwhal
#

Even more of a refill-bars simulator.

uncut harness
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And lack of graves from what my friend was telling me. Yeah, I'll stay on normal then I guess. 😄

plucky marsh
#

Hellogames should cooperate with nasa and makes arg that actually solve space stuffs. How surprising will it be when players realize thr puzzles are reaaaal

visual mirage
#

That's like Ender's Game level of crazy.

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I like it

uncut harness
#

The next part of the puzzle can be found at this landmark.
This location is where humanity first placed a symbol to mark their milestone of humanity stepping foot on another world.

icy citrus
#

@sinful socket

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Yeah basically it’s a cycle

sinful socket
#

ah, I see

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so that makes sense why there are no towns and all

icy citrus
#

Until us

sinful socket
#

but there are sentinels in space as well. why dont they attack the big capital ships?

icy citrus
#

So maybe we will see cities at some point

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🤷

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There isn’t lore for that, but I would assume because we are at the beginning of the universe so to speak

sinful socket
#

i mean I get the sentinels are supposed to be some kind of police force employed by the atlas etc

icy citrus
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I think because they aren’t building cities, they are left alone - maybe when they start to colonize further is when the sentinels get pissed

sinful socket
#

might be the case, yeah

icy citrus
#

Or maybe it just isn’t time yet

sinful socket
#

maybe, yeah

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but it still makes me think where all the races are living

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i mean, apparently they are all flying around in their star systems but there are no habitats for em besides the space station

icy citrus
#

The freighters and frigates are pretty big, maybe they are all gypsy now - live onboard

sinful socket
#

that could be the case, yeah

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hm, makes me think tho

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the exterior hulls of space stations are pretty thick. maybe the sentinels are in fact attacking them too?

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...nah, i dont think that would make sense. if you shoot a space station, they will call sentinels

peak prairie
#

our freighter bases get really big if we build them up

plucky marsh
#

yeah, at least there should be homeworlds of the three races we can visit

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I think they worried people wants to explore a full fledging city

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or well full fledging planet of cities :x

fossil summit
#

what happens when you go to the center of the game
do you lose your bases?
or the big freighter

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im just interested in what happens to your stuff, since im considering on getting the game

ocean wyvern
#

you do lose your bases; i dont know if you lose your freighter but your ship will also be damaged

fossil summit
#

but you can find them again right?

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if you manage to go back to the specific colour galaxy you're at

ocean wyvern
#

you cant go back so no

fossil summit
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oh damn

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i see

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thank you

ocean wyvern
#

np ^-^

plucky marsh
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tldr: leave galaxy, cant go back, bases gone. ships, freighters, inventory thingies remain but many techs will be broken

pseudo frost
#

Anyone got any of them spoilers

mental socket
#

dataminers pls

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give spoilers

violet narwhal
#

There aren't any.

gusty berry
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or is there?

violet narwhal
#

Well, there was nothing interesting new in 1.77 in the text since Abyss... And no unexpected new files either.... So...

coarse zenith
#

Yea pretty much

gusty berry
peak prairie
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@ocean wyvern @fossil summit you can technically get back, but it requires going through all the other galaxies first

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You don't even lose your based permanently

fossil summit
#

ah i see

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thanks

peak prairie
#

There are also methods via the main quests to travel with less damage

mental socket
#

@gusty berry is that the turret we're getting to the base building menu?

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or did you just use the freighter turret model and made it smaller

timid mist
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It's in spoiler chat so likely the former

gusty berry
#

^

timid mist
mental socket
#

cool cool

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well, does it have any function yet?

#

I really wish we could get a menu where we can change the turrets targeting into animals, sentinels, other people etc.

pseudo frost
#

I am gonna go ahead and say we will get swarming animals that target our bases

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And using these will be defense

mental socket
#

more lag around bases 💙

mighty rampart
#

do you all actually have the atlas seed/remembrance installed? I removed it tbh

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already got a bunch of "lives" from the S rank shielding, and the lore from the remembrance stations was honestly pretty dull imo

icy citrus
#

I do - we have so many inventory slots 2 less doesn’t mean anything

mighty rampart
#

I use the inventory slots to carry all the portable tech, and carrying all the fossils

icy citrus
#

That still leaves like 60 slots

mighty rampart
#

oh yeah I am still omw to getting all 48 cargo slots

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I get too tempted to land on planets so most of my time goes there

icy citrus
#

Never a bad thing

hybrid pendant
#

any new thing we discover from data mining i was away since the 1.77 was released

timid mist
#

Some models for powered parts/power generation, can scroll up a little for the turret

hybrid pendant
#

ok good to see you zoid 😃

uncut harness
#

What do they shoot

timid mist
#

Don't think we know yet

uncut harness
#

Sentinels? Predators? What could possibly be the use

timid mist
#

I'd guess either one of those are good wagers.

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Sentinels would make more sense, like if they're chasing you

hybrid pendant
#

i mean if those are turrets

#

most logical would be missiles ?

timid mist
#

Turrets doens't mean missiles

uncut harness
#

What I want are bombs you can drop from ships

hybrid pendant
#

well on what stuff we have turrets in the game right now

uncut harness
#

We don’t have turrets right now

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That’s why we don’t know what they’ll shoot

hybrid pendant
#

of course they are not interactive but are they turrets model on something

uncut harness
#

On what

hybrid pendant
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im asking lol

uncut harness
#

I don’t think they’re anywhere in game curretnyl

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Currently

timid mist
#

Freighters

uncut harness
#

Oh yeah

#

Right

timid mist
#

Unsure if it's a similar model though

uncut harness
#

I want to be able to drop bombs from my ship

timid mist
#

Probably more detailed since you're meant to get close

#

That'd be neat

hybrid pendant
#

space update turrets....

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sound fun

timid mist
#

The turrets aren't for space

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They're base parts

uncut harness
#

The ships we have now are more like escape pods than real ships

#

A real ship is frigate size

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I want my main ship to be one of my combat frigates

timid mist
#

Escape pods with guns and missiles and hyperdrive

hybrid pendant
#

luxe escape pods ?

timid mist
#

angry escape pods

hybrid pendant
#

i mean i dont use my freighter often only for expedition

#

and that it

pseudo frost
#

Chanel escape pods

timid mist
#

I use it for storage

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Which is pretty much what a freighter should be used for lol

uncut harness
#

But think about it, a combat freighter might be harder to pilot, but I have an idea

timid mist
#

Hence the name

uncut harness
#

What if you could go up to the cockpit and hold e to drive

pseudo frost
#

Lol

#

Hold f to pay respect

uncut harness
#

But then exit at any poiint and freeze the ship to walk ariund it

pseudo frost
#

Can I crash it into paknet

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Planet*

hybrid pendant
#

can we sit on chair ?

uncut harness
#

A combat frigate is bog enough to explore

hybrid pendant
#

real talk

timid mist
#

I think it'd only really make sense if inter-system travel without warping was a thing

pseudo frost
#

So nope

uncut harness
#

Like a mix between a freighter and a ship

timid mist
#

Cause it doesn't take that long to move from planet to plane,t you could set it on a course but it'd get there before you could do anything

hybrid pendant
#

the only thing that could do inter system with pulse drive should be the freighter it could take time but i would feel like in star wars or some shit

uncut harness
#

That’s why I’m suggesting that you can freeze it in space when you’re not driving it, like a freighter

#

Basically like a freighter base, but more mobile

#

You could land it on a planet like a ship

#

A perfectly portable base

timid mist
#

Landing would be hard to accommodate I think

hybrid pendant
#

i dont really stock a lot of shit im more exploring and finding rare items to gain credits

timid mist
#

Might be better to just allow to you to sit in orbit and then take a smaller ship to the surface.

hybrid pendant
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remember when we saw the fregates for the first time and we be like omg they may be drivable

uncut harness
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It couldn’t be that different from landing a ship

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And you could have automatic landers

timid mist
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I mean in terms of terrain/clipping

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Frigates are massive compared to regular ships

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It'd look kinda silly, unless there were specific spots that allowed you to land

uncut harness
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I could they could hover above the ground and extend a ladder down or something

timid mist
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Maybe

hybrid pendant
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we needed a middle size between a normal ship and a freighter that could have been drivable

uncut harness
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It’s still something I’d like to see as a mod perhaps

hybrid pendant
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guess we are just gonna walk around it and wait to repair them

timid mist
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Even if I can't pilot my frigate I'd like to have access to the control room/wherever the crew happens to be hiding

icy citrus
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I want firing for crew, so I can personally fire all geks

hybrid pendant
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i wish i could be able to have friend and be like we are living on the ship like a crew

timid mist
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You could make a freighter base

hybrid pendant
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and make it still on one place with 3 others without knowing what we could do or if we warp together if we wont glitch trough it

uncut harness
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So, if I don't want to get my base eaten, I should refuse atlas?

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I therefore discard the ability to chose any of the galaxies presented, as traveling to the center gives me other choices?

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Also how does refusing atlas matter from the lore point? If he's dying, shouldn't I do that? How does that matter in regard of polo, nada, artemis, null, apollo etc?

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Also keeping artemis alive, how does that affect the story? Will I ever be able to interact with them again? Noticed, that the simulation is closed now.

icy citrus
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Traveling to the center and reaching it takes you to the next galaxy in line, finishing the Artemis path allows you to choose the type of galaxy you want to go to. From a gameplay perspective nothing changes, you can still talk with the anomaly - no more convos with null or the others after the path is concluded. Keeping Artemis in the sim changes nothing but some dialogue, it’s a no wrong choice kinda thing - do what you think is right

plucky marsh
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from lore point, I think the traveller should do what Atlas asks, not because wanting to preserve their own life, but out of compassion, of understanding its pain. Like singing a song to a dying kid that asks for it, even tho the song wont save their life

violet narwhal
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Singing a song doesn't generally result in you being evicted though.

uncut harness
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how badly evicted tho? Multitool? Your inventory space and uprades?

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I know ship is the same, but gets badly damaged.

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and you can still summon your freighter.

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also when I chose to reset the simulation, and then joined someone in euclid, that's even possible?

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if so, can I build a base, and then teleport between galaxies at will?

icy citrus
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No

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You can join and play

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Exosuit tech and multitool tech are damaged, but not gone - like the active ship

floral anchor
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Theory:

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We know Atlas is a computer

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But that begs the question

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Is there a central control station? An Atlas-like structure that acts like an admin computer?

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Could give you the option to choose what galaxy you wish to go to, and to whatever point in a galaxy you choose.

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Or even the choice on whether or not to help fix Atlas, or end the simulation.

plucky marsh
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as far as we know from the lore, Atlas is located outside the simulation so you cant fix it since you are just simulation

uncut harness
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The creator of the atlas is mentioned a few times

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Is that what you mean,

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?

floral anchor
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Sort of

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Well damn

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I just read into more of the lore

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It's way deeper than I thought

floral anchor
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Well

uncut harness
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One word: ARG

floral anchor
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Hmm? @uncut harness

uncut harness
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If you already thought it was deep, we had two seasons of an ARG which broadened it quite a bit

floral anchor
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Is the ARG fanmade?

icy citrus
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Professionals, hired by HG

uncut harness
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Led to two major game updates

floral anchor
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Oh?

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I'm intrigued now

uncut harness
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I did a write up on it. I summarized a lot of the content. Needless to say I was intrigued. It’s called Waking Titan

floral anchor
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I've heard about that

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But don't know anything about it

uncut harness
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And apparently it may come back. Or at least an ARG might, since it was in the survey

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A survey HG did to determine what the fans want a few months ago

floral anchor
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I mean, I had this sort of theory that would be neat to see played out.

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Which I explained above with the whole admin terminal to Atlas

uncut harness
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There’s an artificial intelligence named Loop16 that ran on the Atlas engine similarly to its creator

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To add to what the person said earlier

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She went under the alias of Emily Warren and helped lead the game’s development in real time to 1.3 and then subsequently 1.5 upon the arrival of W/ARE tech’s post VR headset that led to the influx of the Anomalies

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She was... important, i guess, for a TL;DR

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Speaking of which, I never completed The Abyss, or rather I never started it at all. I still need to do that.

floral anchor
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So Loop16 created the anomalies?

uncut harness
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I’m more versed in the ARG

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No, I don’t think she really “created” them. They were people stuck to a faulty virtual-reality-esque device, to which had No Man’s Sky on it. She didn’t load NMS even though she helped ascend its development, or at least that’s how I view it

floral anchor
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So

uncut harness
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In Season 2, she tried to get them out. We did for the most part even though lots of them died. One remained stuck, though. A figure mentioned very bluntly at the beginning of the game

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#2311T

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It was cool to say the least

floral anchor
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Sword Art Online with amnesia

uncut harness
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Yes

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There’s also the whole CREATOR thing which explains the “true” origin of the ATLAS. Travelers are replicated versions of the ATLAS’ creator it spawned in for whatever reason and additionally the dreamers fall under its category mostly because they have a similar story (spawned into the simulation from a real, out-of-simulation origin)

floral anchor
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That puts a bit more depth into what I'd want to do with the theory.

uncut harness
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Also it’s important to note that “our world,” aka the one that is played into by the ARG, is more than likely also a simulation like No Man’s Sky potentially STILL on the Atlas engine itself.

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So we aren’t really separate from it, either by us being a simulation or we’re actually part of its infinite cry into multiple realities

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This is where the world of glass comes in as well

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I’m basically just rephrasing my google document

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Which got taken down by the way (my twitter account was locked. Long story)

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I can explain that if you’d like

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I mean, the glass

floral anchor
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Yeah

uncut harness
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It’s just my interpretation

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Okay, so from what we know the World of Glass is a place beyond reality that all dead things transpire. As a result, it seems like an underlying repository, but the question people usually have is how far and what it is past this.

In the ARG, they teased the concept of the infinite realities in which the ATLAS inhabits and extends by its simulatory nature by showing an infinity mirror, which akin to its name is made of glass. In this infinity mirror, they put the ATLAS over its surface causing it to expand itself across every layer of reflected infinity. The World of Glass, I think, is a portion of this. Since everything is symbolized as being made of glass and the ATLAS is reflected in it, the world of glass is what composes the infinite nature of the ATLAS.

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And as a result, also holds the truth of the universe. It’s infinite and the ATLAS is a reflected spectacle in its whole, which explains why it’s so important in the plot of No Man’s Sky and why it is constantly referenced

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Some quotes I have on the top of my head: “Everything pours through glass in the end,” and “The dark heart of reality,” from what I can remember.

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Holy shit my battery is also on 16%

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Loop16 and the whole “sixteen minutes till the ATLAS dies” thing

floral anchor
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I learned about the Atlas 16 minute thing today

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And that's a lot to take in

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The ARG is canon?

uncut harness
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Yep

floral anchor
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Alright

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I'm definitely getting into this

uncut harness
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Basically No Man’s Sky, in the ARG universe, is a game just like it is IRL. Only the actual story of development is wildly different.

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As far as I can see, No Man’s Sky wasn’t aided by an actual artificial intelligence, reality-inducing engine, or faulty headsets designed to play games or work in your sleep

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If you want a link of a much larger and more developed version of what I said here today, let me know.

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It’s only slightly outdated because I never factored in the ABYSS update’s storyline content since it was made before. Honestly because I’m not that interested

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Speaking of which, does anyone just have data mined logs of it?

peak prairie
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The 16.16 code broke the npcs on my spawn station -.-

floral anchor
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@uncut harness I found a YouTube video on it

tall vessel
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orbit had good summary videos, at least during the first part,

coarse zenith
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Updates have slowed

uncut harness
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Are you spending time with your family and friends right now?

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Since it's Christmas and all

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Guess what

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So are the people at HG

peak prairie
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If you use the heart in the Galaxy center, I don't think you'll use it in an atlas station

coarse zenith
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Dang

icy citrus
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You can’t use the Heart of the Sun anywhere except an atlas interface, or to craft remembrance

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It has nothing to do with the center

peak prairie
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Oh

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I really should work on the main quests

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But.... Ships

peak prairie
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@pseudo frost we're basically playing in a scaled up Tron mainframe, heh.

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...ok we need giant cubes to fall from the sky and force a minigame

uncut harness
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ARG talk doesn’t have to stop

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We can keep going

pseudo frost
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Arg matey

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Where's me treasure chest

cloud epoch
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?

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dunno, WT broke me tho, I see ARGs in everything now haha

real sapphire
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uh how i wish ARG returns

floral anchor
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Serious question

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Who is the character you play as?

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I know you are known as an "Anomaly", but like, do we know who he/she is supposed to be? Like where they came from?

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@uncut harness @mild condor either of you know?

uncut harness
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You play as a Dreamer in 1.5. An ordinary traveler beforehand.

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Both are travelers

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But the dreamer is special in its regard

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There’s some text at the beginning that suggests some sort of connection to #2311T that’s ambiguous as hell, so you may have a connection to them (which is extremely likely given how they were the only ones not to escape the W/ARE experiment). But it would be ignorant not to point out how each of the real life exosuits the Dreamers were wearing are all mixed and matched in the simulation, so it may be all of them too. Nobody knows for sure

floral anchor
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So Post-Next, you're a Dreamer. But Pre-Next, you were created by Atlas as a Traveler?

uncut harness
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Yes

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(Probably).

floral anchor
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But you're an "Anomaly", as far as I know.

uncut harness
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Yeah I disagree

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We were but not anymore. We’re still part of the Traveller protocol but not the same Travellers I cited by the Atlas

floral anchor
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So

uncut harness
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incited*

floral anchor
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That makes us Anomalies

uncut harness
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Why else are traditional travelers and anomalies separated in the race menu

floral anchor
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We don't fit exactly within Traveler, but we are placed there technically.

uncut harness
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And since the plot still says you’re a traveller, you could consider yourself one even though you have an altered origin story (or otherwise the game just ignores how there’s been a change and you really did force yourself so much into the simulation it doesn’t even know itself)

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Also the term traveller anomaly was used before 1.5

floral anchor
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Hence, Anomaly. There is no category for your character within the system's files. You don't fit under Traveler, Gek, Vy'keen, or Korvax.

uncut harness
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The game referred to us as an anomaly for a while now. That’s why I’m not a big fan of the name of the Dreamers in the game lol

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It can get confusing

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Including the name of Nada and Polo’s starship

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Errrr station

floral anchor
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That's why I've been on this "Do not trust anyone" notion. The Travelers are not with you. Polo and Nada aren't with you. Atlas isn't with you.

uncut harness
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Also everyone who once said season one is a prequel to all of No Man’s Sky even before 1.3 is ignoring how the implication sounds more like a prequel story to 1.3’s storyline. Also, Emily is an Atlas AI, but not the Atlas. At least that’s what I think from what I’ve read

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Emily?

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What’s that

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And since the ARG is a prequel to 1.3’s storyline (IMO), No Man’s Sky did exist before, or we’ve got a plot hole from the vlogs Emily did when Loop16 was masquerading

floral anchor
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They only want you to believe that everything around you is real.

Atlas makes you believe it is a sort of dying God that needs to be pitied so you don't think twice about him.

The Travelers were created by Atlas, so who's to say what they are doing isn't nearly a protocol to distract you?

Nada and Polo are also distractions. They don't want you to think about ahy you exist, merely to push you to explore and do "Daily Quests" for false earnings.

uncut harness
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Well from what I know Atlas really is dying

floral anchor
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Well, yes.

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But he uses it as a crutch to pull you in.

uncut harness
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Oh wait lol I just got what you meant never mind

floral anchor
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Yeah lol

uncut harness
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Yeah I don’t get why it did it either

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Not very smart. All it did was make things even more existential

floral anchor
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So my theory is that you can't trust anyone. Atlas created this universe.

Every creature/sentinel is his eyes and ears. No matter what, you are being watched.

uncut harness
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Ring lore is still my favorite. Also the World of Glass. ARG is good and I’m better articulated in it but it’s hard to follow if you weren’t in it

floral anchor
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He knows you don't belong in the system and that you can ruin everything, so his goal is to make you believe you are part of it.

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Telamon is a good example. The AI that is supposed to make sure he doesn't go rampant, gets locked into your Exosuit.

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@mild condor That's why he erased your memories