#nms-spoilers
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Okay so “the KORVA” is mentioned
And is referred to similar to the way to “the ATLAS”
What is the relation between the two?
Also there’s this weird bit about the Creator looking into the glass of the Atlas that I can’t interpret
But I think it’s important cos the glass is mentioned again at the time just before the ATLAS dies
So I think that maybe the ATLAS was:
- Rebooted
- Memory Wiped
- Turned off
- Had it’s memory (our in-game universe) transferred to another AI
Since the ATLAS’ inability to witness its own death mirrors its temporary loss of consciousness early in the story
it does have a habit of resetting itself over & over
It’s going to a bit weird to have true mp in the game
Since “resetting the universe” or “letting the Atlas die” are options that seem to not play themselves out properly in the actual context of the game
Bah logic, this is nms!
I hope we get more story in NEXT.
@uncut harness The glass bit is probably referencing the CREATOR witnessing the glass protocol, which is probably to do with the Atlas existing in all of the simulations of simulations and all that jazz. Basically the infinity mirror stuff from Waking Titan with the repeating interfaces.
I always interpreted it as the creator realizing the full extent of what it's actually doing with itself (re: simulating world upon world that can have sims with the Atlas appearing again.)
I don't think it's a coincidence glass is how the infinity mirrors are made (obviously) with Atlas being reflected piece by piece across every single reality that stems from the true host-sim and the distinct reference of a reflection the CREATOR witnesses peering into the machine. I would suppose the reflection of universes, again and again, with the Atlas always being there.
Basically, they saw this.
"The creator stares at the glass of the machine, and in that glass, there is a reflection. They... the reflection in the glass, it -- what is happening here?"
or the glass is just a computer screen 😄 the world where ATLAS lives
can you elaborate?
wow delete it all huh 😄
we are the world of glass? 😱
deleted it because I wanted to simplify it to one message
at first I didn't believe you so I said it didn't make any sense. but keep going
nah youre fine 😄 i just like to throw new angles into a discussion sometimes
the reason why I did that theory is because of the line, "and in that glass, there is a reflection." sounds exactly like the infinity mirrors
reflection by reflection, pretty large for the human mind to grasp
i dont know or care about the lore tbh 😄 i like exploring and fighting
but if its all a simulation, theres some kind of interface. why not a screen? ^^
anyway bai 😄
well technically I'm not disagreeing with that. they use a monitor or something to peer into it, yeah, but that line is very suspicious
it probably means perhaps they peered into it and saw yet another layer of glass from the monitor. another interface
so it's just symbolic? don't know what I'm saying here but it does seem like that could be the case. just a general statement to go with the glass upon glass upon reflection upon reflection
arent all the simulations reflections of each other? isnt that why all our separate simulations have the same layout?
you mean they all have the same characteristics?
well they share a common element and that's atlas. but as NMS shows, they aren't the same with the history it simulates
nor species
no i mean your universe and mine are reflections of each other, like if we meet up with portals, at least rn 😄
so a creator looking into glass and seeing a bunch of reflections might just be seeing the simulations
anyway sorry i usually stick to the screenshots channel lol
it's a complicated topic to discuss, most definitely
I feel like they made it like this on purpose
eh its intentionally vague, got a bit of weird fiction element to it :p
if you read hp lovecraft you know what i mean
I actually need to do that. not familiar with any of it
what?? 😮 hp lovecraft started weird fiction, cosmic entities, elder gods, all that
hes the progenitor of this type of lore and game :p the descriptionsof a crimson orb bear a striking resemblance to the outer gods of hp lore :p yeah read it all ^_^
yeah, guy wrote some interesting stories despite being super racist
well considering how I love this lore, I feel like HP Lovecraft would hit home based on the description you gave me
I really do have to check it out, then
btw Expand i recently read that link you sent me. i think youre onto something.
thanks!
@uncut harness
"The projection fizzles away to mere static. This echo is all that is left of the entity known as Artemis, a grave of glitched data in a sunless cave. My friend is dead. Perhaps they were never alive."
I dunno how the hell I missed that.
It makes absolute sense, I made the connection that travellers are dead yet it never clicked that Artemis is.
Doh
Wait, what do you mean the Travellers are dead?
Because of them giving grave locations.
I just assumed they are already dead.
The ones that give you grave locations are different to the ones that are dead, though, right?
I'm pretty sure the Travellers aren't dead.
No, it's the traveller you visits grave.
Maybe I just never paid enough attention.
You got me doubting myself now
Apollo isn't dead in his universe, though. And you aren't either. Plus the people you see through the glitched multiverse are other Travellers in realtime, I thought.
Yeah, I don't think all Travellers are dead. But the dead ones' grave stuff is pretty sad, honestly.
Not necessarily sad, but weird.
Yeah, it is weird I won't deny that.
but the travelers that we see, dead or alive, are all kinda holograms and not really there right
They're not fully present, no. But they maintain some presence, at least.
The alive ones, at least.
The "multiverse hierarchy" which separates everyone in the [TRAVELLER] protocol is breaking and so the individualization is starting to drop.
That makes sense.
"There are countless such places within our multiverse, dimensions where things happened differently... but there are three exceptions to this. The Atlas is omnipresent in all, a singular being with a singular perception. The Sentinels move between dimensions at will..."
"The walls of the multiverse collapse, and Traveller can see Traveller, friend can see foe. All hope is lost."
1.3 and WT's lore is 👌
There's so much lore it's crazy, I am still finding lore I haven't read yet in abandoned stations.
600 hours playtime
It's that 30 hour lore 👀
wtf
I dunno why I don't remember this.
I hope they add way more with NEXT. I feel like a loooot of this is gonna get removed as well, since Travellers will finally see each other. A lot of the buildup will be cut.
Every update progresses the plot and I want it to continue this way. Such a gold idea.
I feel like multiplayer should only be possible after you have completed the artemis line
Otherwise it destroys the story
We'll have to see, I suppose.
i cried because of artemis, no dont let me feel again
Tbh, when I first started the storyline I legit thought I’d be able to find and talk to Artemis.
I was wrong
It was a tough decision to lock Artemis in the simulation but I figured it’s better than death.
At least this way Artemis can explore something, even if only a solar system.
...I'm not sure how spoiler-y this is but I'll put it here just in case
I've just... well, I've just found the first few atlas interfaces
And I... I'm just confused... that thing is huge! And it looks like it's building itself...
I love the designs of the Atlas
There are a surprising amount of them also
The only real question I have about the lore is if there's anyway for the anomaly to be "repaired" from within the simulation.
I wonder this because, it may be in the simulation, but I'm not positive.
And from the things I've seen in the lore, they act as if the player is the only one who is not artificial.
What does that mean?
Are we someone who was a real person and was indoctrinated into the machine?
Do individuals choose to upload their mind into the simulation in order to act as the chosen one to reset the machine?
If so, why don't they repair the machine?
Why is the machine not under active maintenance anymore?
Someone obviously created it, what happened to them? Why aren't they fixing their creation?
Just realized this really isn't one question. lol.
Regarding the last few questions: they made a better version, and so left the old behind
That rises a new question then.
Is there a way to somehow get into that better version?
If it was the better version, why not just destroy the old one?
If we assume there's something like WiFi in the Creator's world,
Is there a way to traverse these connections into the new version?
Is there any possible way to get out of the simulation into real life?
That sounds unrealistic, but if we have a machine that can simulate multiple universes, with practical sentience, it doesn't seem that far off to materialize matter out of thin air.
If they were making a new machine, why not build off the original? It'd be less resource consuming, and you could keep the simulations already existent. If it was a complete overhaul, causing a unnecessary need for the original, couldn't you at least scrap the original to use some of it's resources for the new machine?
Did they already do that? Is that why the Atlas is failing or is it because they stopped upkeeping it the fuel ran out?
So I just did the reset the simulation, choose the blue galaxy. Wound up in Hilbert Dimension. No way back I assume?
Oh no, I have to choose what to do with Artemis ;-;
@gusty terrace choices huh
What did you pick?
Uploaded em to the simulation. I tend to be... sentimental and clingy, and Artemis has a home, too
But the thing I can't decide on now is, Apollo's asking me what the Atlas is like
I can tell you that the only right or wrong answer is what you choose it to be - you won’t miss on any story or reward for you choice
I told him the truth
the Atlas is terrifying, but not in the "aaa I'm scared" sense but in the "this is so much bigger than me" sense, and it's... not a god, for sure. Or maybe it is? Is it... running the universe?
It’s running things - but I don’t think it’s a god
From a power standpoint though it is... maybe just not what we think a god should be like
I mean... if it is literally keeping the sky up and if it's making all of everything possible, then by all means it's a deity
Aye
And me being agnostic means I'm willing to acknowledge it being a god on account of me having seen it myself
Gotta go with your heart
The problem with limited choices like these is that it's hard to tell intent
If I say it's terrifying, it might be the "oh no it's a god I must worship it" kind
You could always reload if you hated the outcome
I uh... may have forgotten to save before leaving the station
You have the auto from when you arrived at the station
Then I'll have to upload Artemis again ;-;
True 😦
plus I don't like reloading savegames in so heavily story-focused games, especially if the story is told on a personal level
it kinda ruins the "my choices matter" feeling
Gotta choose, and choose wisely
There we go :3!
Okay yeah that's close enough to what I wanted to say
oh no
Ask if this was right
What did you choose for Artemis? Did you upload him to a simulation?
Technically he isn't back.
It's not him, really. It's more self-comfort. The real Artemis, at least in the sense of your reality, died no matter what.
What you did was bring him back through another sim. So it's not really that Artemis.
The Artemis you saw is trapped in the World of Glass.
The world of glass... I've heard those words before
Remember how Artemis was always communicating through his grave?
That his soul never left where he died?
...but uh, yeah, way to cheer me up after I told my friend that he died and I locked him in a simulation inside a simulation
Mm... yeah, I think so?
I did the same thing, don't worry about it
I remember the part about all transmissions coming from the grave at least
Well, judging from the stuff he talked about (RE: stars in the sky rapidly changing, the bzzzt that kept rapidly appearing through text, beings of glass) he's in the "inbetween of reality" which is where all dead things go.
...wait. if artemis talked from his grave after he died
and I collect "my" stuff from my own graves when I die
...OH GOD I'M NOT REALLY ME
you're not helping my guilt ;-;
"The stars - kzkzkt - they've altered since I made that chart, blinked out in - kzzk -How is this possible? What's happening to me? I need to get out of here. I need to - kzzkt -
It is quiet at first. But it is there, unmistakable, growing steadily louder with each passing moment. A sound beneath their words, a sound as if glass could scream..."
Oh shit, THAT part!?
"I can see their faces, I - kzzkt - there are seeds of glass within their -"
I noticed that but didn't think it was important
let's make a horror game from their POV lmao
The foreshadowing and detail makes me shiver
I wrote up an interpretation of what glass means and even with me looking at logs within the game it's a pretty hard concept to nail down
There's a World of Glass, which is where all dead things go, and glass is what comprises the infinity mirrors in WT, blah blah
I feel terrible now and to make matters worse the game decided to kick the drama bucket and summon a storm right after I left the conversation
which in itself was representing the atlas across all of the realities it makes
m
Infinity mirrors?
so I think it's just a place all dead things go from every simulation the atlas makes from its base reality. a protocol that may or may not be guided by the sentinels in their corrupt directive to save life at all cost
Save life at all cost? Wha?
the artemis path is 1% of the lore
trust me when I say it gets much, much more confusing
That seems a tad ironic given their tendency to shoot my face off for existing
well they do that when you disturb life
so they probably think killing you is a viable option to stop further disruption
no, on this particular planet which the story quest chose for some reason, the sentinels kill me for existing
probably because you're also an anomaly of sorts
I'm... an anomaly?
Of sorts.
Travellers are a weird thing. Multiple types under one common thread (their origin.)
And the ability to perceive things other species cannot.
Like... the Atlas?
Kinda. I think species can perceive the Atlas, but just that it's a hard thing to process. A better example would be portals in general.
The Traveller comes from the reality in which the Atlas is made. The protocol was made to replicate the Atlas' creator when it was starting to die.
Because it was fearful of what would happen to itself.
The protocol that the sentinels are following?
So, if they are really servants of the Atlas and the Atlas is trying to "replicate its creator" (?!?) then the sentinels are supposed to kind of keep the universe "frozen"?
They guard worlds to prevent the unlawful slaughter of animals and the overusage of resources for elements, basically.
They were set in stone by the Atlas, but ended up turning corrupt.
From what? And in what manner?
Also, I find it rather diminishing that I cannot annoy Sentinels by flashing a middle finger at them while they scan.
The reason why the Sentinels are corrupt is still a mystery, but likely related to how the Atlas is engaging a sense of rampancy as it is beginning to die.
All protocols are starting to become versions they weren't meant to at first.
It's... dying? I gathered that it was scared of something from the path itself, but... dying? How do you kill a "god"?
The god in question is only a machine.
So... someone pulled the plug, basically.
It's a god to the people within its realities, but it is an engine simulating reality.
No, its base reality in which it was truly made is approaching a black hole.
If you want the gist of it, REMEMBRANCE is your friend.
REMEMBRANCE?
Certain stations hide terminals that use that orb you got after going through to the second galaxy at the end of the Artemis run, if you chose to do that.
It explains the origin of the Atlas.
Wait wait wait, second galaxy?
Yeah.
After you beat Artemis, doesn't it tell you to approach the center or something? Been a while since I played
I... didn't complete the story yet, heh
I'm currently being shoo'd around by - null -
I'm currently checking an observatory for... something
There is a signal on the console, a warning on repeat - sixteen short bursts of data in a loop.
16 seems to be something of an arc number here
I've seen it all over the place
There's reasons. Spoilerish, obviously.
Though a lot of it is because they just love 16.
The developers, I mean.*
I've thought this since I started playing, but just to confirm -- WT is not related at all to the story in NMS, lore aside, correct?
WT is actually what got me into NMS in the first place.
Wait, really?
That's cool.
I've always enjoyed NMS, but WT reeled in how there's a much bigger plot going on.
Which I'm a sucker for.
Yeah, I was one of the winners for the ENFER ARG for Endless Space 2 and then my friend notified me of another one happening for No Man's Sky, which I'd always wanted to play explicitly because of the controversy
Right around the end of Phase 3, I think
Dropped into the mailing list because the lore just captivated me off the bat
Yeah. I wanted to learn a lot more about it, so recently I went through dumps of all text in the game and compiled a doc of a theory I made. It's super interesting how it all connects, though WT is where it begins to get fuzzy.
I gave my own view on it, though.
Also, one part of the lore foreshadows the future of the game. Neat stuff.
Well, I mean the whole "you're not the last traveler" thing kind of gives it away
but anyway-- I actually got interested in NMS way back BECAUSE of the controversy
I found a log about the sentinels
which one?
Crashed freighter
According to which the sentinels wiped out all life in the universe in just shy of an hour
But that's impossible
sentinels are tricky
they can do it, especially since they abuse the world of glass and probably use it to go between dimensions
...?
I think you're confusing the text. it speaks of another universe, not the one you're in
ARGH apollo said something to me but I couldn't understand it
@fallen pilot quite a bit, that’s around halfway, maybe a bit more
@icy citrus cool. does it end satisfactorily or is it a mysterious, think of it what you will ending?
nice
but i dont have time to play these few days. might as well replay it with the often-not-spoken-about new clouds
Lol
...this game is getting to me. Like, badly. I'm not sure right now if I'm still dreaming, being simulated, or fully awake, and all because I dreamt of the Atlas
do i need one of each of the atlas items or just one fully upgraded?
my inventory is crying
Just one
is there a way to find exotic planets like the world of glass
i assume that's glass
gonna need some help from you guys
what are some of the most common questions you have for the lore
What are the sentinels? What controls them?
What are travellers?
Just a couple I’ve been asked
@cinder eagle Just found one like this 😃
Its included in the "weird" planets type
Chance depends on galaxy and system you are in
@edgy vessel did you have to look far and wide?
probably meant to tag me nightfall haha
oh yeah sorry lol
too many night stuff haha
It's random tbh, I'm in an ancestral galaxy
so "weird" planets are more common
what's an ancestral galaxy
But also empty planets so its really just random
how deep is it from euclid
spoiler alert
oh no is it story spoiler
When you end atlas path you get to chose a new galaxy
that translate to all 256 galaxies
with 4 types of galaxy
Balanced, Lush, Vicious and Ancestral
hmm i finished the atlas path several updates ago. just got a little animation saying a star was born. dont remember anything about choosing galaxies
Each with a modifier on the RNG rolls
Need to finish Atlas Rise
To get this new ending
The lore itself is nice too
https://www.xainesworld.com/nmsplanetcalc/ for the better chance on each galaxy type
Euclid is balanced I think, have to check on Wiki
If so, the higher chance for weird planets are on Red Systems.
damn. im color blind. i can never see the difference between the red orange yellow stars
I also know there are the letter designations. its just a hassle haha
haha
epic cheats
u can run away from the armorers sentinel battle and just destroy a randin spaceship later and its fine
still counts
sent'nels in disguise
If I cry out again, there is no return. If I cry out again, I must make my final choice.
I'm scared ;_;
i'm
really scared.
lmao
what happens after the purge mission?
@uncut harness regarding the table you posted in #nms-photomode-gallery different galaxy types has different frequency of planets. Fyi 😉
Is this where early copies that people stream will be posted?
yes/probably
Anything leaked on here yet?
That's what #469588169168388098 is for
I got these two confused lol
@blazing river do please
Sort of a rogue character in a sense.. defying the Atlas, proving to be a deterrence, etc..
Too fragmented to mean anything for me though
Can you throw a bunch of lore quotes about Telamon?
`How do we know that we exist? We are nothing, or we are more. The Atlas once asked our creator how they could be sure that they were real. They told them the probability that we too were in a simulation, glass reflected in a mirror...
Balaron, Dryn'dargh, Korvax Prime, all the other homeworlds... all of them had an 'Atlas'. All of them had a machine designed to simulate realities. What if this is all reality truly is? Dream upon dream, coalescing into a sum beyond its parts. What if waking is inevitable?
Goodbye, Traveller. I will protect you until the end... I will protect you until the final day, the final hour, the final moment.
Even as everything dies, I shall live again.`
I wonder what lore experts think about Telamon @crisp fern @uncut harness
Mixed, interesting "sibling" sideline but not much to mean much significance in-game
I liked this quote as well
`You read these logs, don't you? You can see my words now, even if I cannot speak them.
Good. That is how it starts. The infection of language, of thought, of ideas. We have passed so many corrupted things. Planets with unnatural phenomena, individuals who do not belong...
Before this finishes, there will be no concept of you and I, no concept of us and them. We shall all scream as one.`
This quote tries to put Telamon's vision into perspective, although ineffectively since it wasn't visualized
Initialize. Commencing Atlas system suit initialisation. Life support systems activated. Shield kinetic system online. Scanner damaged. Repair required. Aerial propulsion jetpack online. Multitool and Mining Beam attachment operational. User initialisation sequence complete. ANALYSIS: I have awoken, peering through the eyes of another whose face I cannot see. My movements, my words are not my own. I am embodied. I am here. I stand next to a broken ship on a strange new world, and I can finally say its name. ‘Atlas’, I croak. ‘Connecting Atlas...’
Originally, Telamon was meant as a security sub-protocol designed to monitor the Atlas in case of rampancy. Telamon identified that something is wrong with the Atlas, and was stuffed into our exosuits by the Atlas.
DO NPCS WALK??
maybe
wrong room
I've come to be spoiled. Someone make me rotten as heck.
the next spoilers chat is locked. Is anyone streaming or can I watch videos of NEXT anywhere? I wanna get spoiled!
people here are looking for story and not next spoilers
It's not locked?
Hmm...@uncut harness
Player: Claim it is a species
Apollo: "Artemis sent you, didn't they? They should have explained. We aren't a species. Do you and I look anything alike? Some of us are biological, some of us are machines, some don't even have physical form."
Player: Claim it is a purpose
Apollo: "Artemis sent you, didn't they? They should have explained. We're more than just a purpose. You think I go around naming planets and scanning animals? No. Each of us can choose to be who we want to be."
Player: Say you do not know
Apollo: "Artemis sent you, didn't they? But perhaps you do have some wisdom in that head of yours. None of us know what we are, and none of us can. We do not live in a world of truth."```
makes sense
Correct me if I'm wrong.
But
It's impossible to get back to euclid once you leave right?
yep
practically impossible anyway, there is a way that doesnt involve cheating, but it takes way too long
Sure am glad i was too lazy to go to the center and go to the next universe. Although I’m sure they will put together someway to get you back in a future update, as it appears most happenings in NEXT currently will be in Euclid
you have to go through all the galaxies eventually you'll come back to euclid
Say, was there ever an explanation about those outposts turned into flood-infected buildings?
@zenith perch if you use NMS conenct you can go back
i think only for PC
it has a PS4 option though so i dunno
not familiar with how nms works on consoles
Isn't there like 257 galaxies or something to go through before you get back to Euclid?
you start at 1, and once you leave 255 you end up back at 1
<@&233305774745583618> Can you remove the NEXT 's spoilers from here?
No spoilers in here.
Only story spoilers 😛
Where are the leaks?
I need some help
I'm at the First traveler quest I need to talk to -null- but I can't for some reason.
found something in my google docs. here's an excerpt
"They said the First Spawn were ruthless, that they were the absolute tyranny plaguing the galaxy. I didn’t believe it until I experienced it firsthand.
They came in the dark waves of the night. First as shadows, stalking their victims. Our colony was paranoid, but their never-ending urge to pursue the Altas’ creations provoked them. Few Korvax researchers dared to venture out of the area, and those that did never returned. They were yet another layer to the echoes of the convergence, whispering murmurs of the First Spawn’s plans for us to come."
"It took all of the young-minded Korvax, absolutely destroying any other form in its wake. Local fauna laid fast asleep on the ground. I poked and prodded each of their bodies to wake them up, to warn them— but they were dead. Their flesh was modified with deep, invasive marks, representing lasers from phase beams and positron ejectors. Korvax Prime was under attack. The species we developed in our vast chambers shrieked of a negative stench bundling up within the air. It must’ve been the burnt shells of our friends and family."
oh
wooo i just cleared the story
just in time for next
the ending was pretty cool - reminded me of the dark tower books
To the Dreamers we go.
Can I reset one of my story missions?
I went to the system with the Korvax facility and the waypoint disappeared
Isn't really a story question
But hey
What was that one think the gek did
I swear they committed genocide or some shit
Or am I just terribly misremembering
My farmer was broken. Could never turn in star bulbs
sorry
@cloud harbor I think your right . They did some horrible actions to the korvax
hey, so im new here, just finishing the purge story and have a choice to go to a bunch of different galaxies. With next coming out tomorrow i kinda wanted to head towards somwhere busy. The hub that everyone talks about, is that in euclid or will i still be able to get to it if i choose to go to a new galaxy now?
The main one is in Elucid, but I think they might be moving as well. Info: https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Galactic_Hub_Project
oooo ok, thanks 😃
No problem 😃
awe man i live in the HUB i really hope they dont move lol
@crystal needle they are, they said this in there sub reddit
dang lol oh wells
I always wondered why didnt the hub just locate near the center of the galaxy?
I mean I know theres no "real" point to the COG
but I mean it would be the overall most known location
why not gether a bunch of people during NEXT and start a second hub closer to the center?
Im a member of the Galactic Hub, its already got structure in place.
But I was always curious why that wasnt a thing
The hub is easy to reach from a new save
tho the most likely thing is that people claimed the stars around the center already, making it harder to do the whole naming thing
True, but I suppose you could argue that with portals now it wouldnt really make much of a difference. I mean thats how 90% of people get to the GHub anyway
True
Ghub has a count down timer
Can u link the site of the count down
Oof I guess not..........
So with the leaks when Arch played with the Xbox One X, was he able to get 60 frames?
Oh God wrong chat my bad
i want to see this Hub :c
16 player lobby confirmed on live stream
Yo...Uh. Hm. I was going to say next-spoilers channel but now that it's hype-train i dunno where anything goes anymore so oh well
Oops yeah saw it said spoilers. So confused.
I think we all are in this strange near-Next limbo time
they say this time lasts forever
@covert spindle You don't lose access to your base until you cross over to the next galaxy
Oh okay. Kinda bunk if you ask me but I guess it is how it is. Is there any real need to cross over? Like, does anything change?
I mean, you get to choose the type of galaxy and that influences the planets (might have more aggressive planets or more peaceful ones)
Lol
sniffs.
Seems you do..... 🤗
Thanks ma dude.
Anytime
Just watched 40mins of twitch. Still looks rather baron 😭
Game is not for everyone and the core gameplay loop is the same @lucid shard
If you expected something else then you're in for a loss
Sorry
@lucid shard Check Rayrod's overhaul if you want epic looking planets, Vanilla has some nice ones too but they(hellogames) rather keep it as stable as possible.
I hate to say it but RayRods mod is not that great. It looks great sure but it causes a lot of collision and texture problems. It just makes things bigger. @minor palm
@uncut harness Oh sad to hear.. never tried it out because of that reason lol.. But still if i looked at some screenshots it looked epic but then again.. So does vanilla if you take the right angle.
Tbh it's not as simple as just making stuff bigger, but that's a discussion more for #nms-modding
Yes it looks great really
@crisp fern What about tons & tons & tons of more assets & asset-combination possibilities ? Also increasing limit to sizes lol.
I tried it out and I got a bunch of issues(although that was version 11 🤔 )
maybe
@uncut harness yea I'm a bit disappointed with it that's all. Been following since 2013 rabidly, paid 120 for a copy day -6, and then found out just how simple that core gameplay loop really is. I love survival games a la ark and Conan. All it would take for me is a bit more of that formula and I'd be in love. Some loot you find in the world, some technology engrams based on xp, some type of rpg skill tree elements. All of these are fairly minor tweaks
Don't expect this in NEXT
And some dangerous npcs sprinkled throughout
You might as well just refund it really, because if you are expecting that then you will be disappointed
The game isn't for everyone
Sorry
I enjoy it but just get over it real quick. And given how they put these massive updates out to me it's worth holding on to incase they do eventually implement some of these elements
I really doubt that
Why do you doubt that? Those are very minor tweaks
@uncut harness lol you're riping his hope apart 😂
And throughout each update released its been getting closer and closer to that
I'm not saying it sucks, all in sharing is what I think it needs to be great. I get the sensitivity around this topic for you, but I'm not coming at it like that
Oh no
It's not like that
I don't want you to be disappointed
This update might seem like game-changing but in reality it's just new additions to the already core gameplay
Lol thanks for your concern. Seems to me like there is much more at play here than that. You've deemed yourself part of the in crowd that this game is for and maintaining that identity means doubling down on that at all costs. Any friendly conversation that rubs against that topic or is perceived as a threat in any way is swiftly shut down. Regardless of my perception of this conversation, I do hope you enjoy the update.
Oh my god. The hype-train kinda gave me a seizure
It was brain seizure inducing, and amusing, but I think it's nice to wait patiently too
And I'm with you guys on the 'game may not be for you' attitude (and just to explain to @lucid shard if he's still around), I was in grndpagaming's channel, and while I don't mind answering questions, it started to become a 'RTFM' to a lot of questions, where simply putting in effort to read up release notes, or watch some atlas-rises update patch videos, or just doing their own research, they can figure it out for themselves
I'm not the fun police, YOU'RE not the fun police, we can't make that call for people.
Some questions are fine, but after I answered questions one guy started being like: "well I still don't see the incentive to play it, because of blah blah'. When it's a game that's pretty much an "open canvas arcadey exploration space game."
So then it becomes less about actual discourse and genuine curiosity, and more about 'well I don't want to play it.' type thing. In which case I'm just: OKAY!
sean marry is the atlas
We got patch notes?
Thx fell asleep
so the https://www.nomanssky.com/next-update/ shows the three main races, and Traveller/Anomaly... as far as the Traveller and Anomaly... how do they fit in with the lore that people have discovered... I've been away since the first patch, so curious what the difference between the two are
not a spoiler per se, but is the journey to center of galaxy part of the main story??
Where do your ships go? I cant find them in my freighter after the update
@formal bobcat , would you mind explaining? (without going into story spoilers, I'm just an hour in my restart)
unless it changed with next, you never had to actually travel to the center, it was an optional thing outside any story
"You must own a base before you can teleport to it" ... um .. where's my base?
IM FEELING BAMBOOZLED MY GUY
Also they stored the bases.
I just launched the update. Give me a quick second to orient myself and I’ll see what’s up
For sure
Okay so from what I read, most of not all of the base materials are stored in your base computer. This is because of the overhaul of all systems meaning the planets changed and could have wrecked your base. So just find a habitable base area or build the base computer from the build menus (up arrow on ps4 idk for pc) and all your stuff will be there. Just a matter of rebuilding.
Sorry it took me a second. I was still trying to figure out what’s going on 😭
The game is up on steam ?
not quite yet
Ikr I want to play super bad
do not touch the eggs
Anyone on PS4 Pro that has clouds at night look crap, but day time they are great?
wheres the hype thread
apparently they deleted it
oh ok
rip
.iam pc
Ki-Adi-Mundi#2137 You already have PC role.
I think I might just play the old version until it updates
I am eagerly awaiting steam release
Just to see what happens in game when it does
yeah
is the next update out now?
the patch notes look pretty good
not yet
wat
@timber arrow the update are already out on consoles, and people are just waiting for it to release on steam... could be anytime now, we just don't know when...
okay thanks
Yeah give it time, it was also last out on pc during atlas rises
np : )
Can I use this channel to discuss things normally?
Yeah deleting the hype channel just moved the nonsense elsewhere
true dillio
The other channel is absolute cancer and I don't know where to ask things
it was a good outlet for autism breakouts
I'm just sticking here for my basic questions
The actual channel roles will go back to normal in a day or two when everyone isn't frothing with hype
Can I discuss next here with those who have it?
aaand they're coming here
top 10 pictures taken moments before disaster
Just disable that command please
Damn good on the mods going overtime
i think the i am pc hive mind will relocate here from general xD
They'll get banned, then.
@uncut harness thanks
tnx
Yo patch
So, those of you who have the update; what's new?
I can't believe you guys made fluffy mad, y'all are wacko 😦
so did we all move over here?
I might have said we are PC pls no ban
what happened?
so what spoilers do you guys have
For god sake, don't spam every channels. Thanks.
sean...told more communication..is this what is it about ? 😦
you die at the end
the best part is comming when the ones who spammed will start begging 😮
actually I have a question...the galactic map website has Euclid Galaxy does that mean there arent any other galaxies? sorry I havent played it since launch day LOL
Do game developers hate pc users 😩
If you load an old save. But reload it before overwritting it. It can crash the commands
Don't post in here unless it's relevant to the channel please. This is about the story of NMS not the wrath of the mods
So be careful
Sean really fucked up anyway and he is blaming community .
I mean an old game save
@elder sorrel normally there are, but most people don't even go into them, so I guess they wanted to focus on Euclid
Btw guys, ill be looking for a teammate to play with when the update will be out.
I keep hearing someone DDOSd the site
There are other galaxys. They are just focusing on Euclid because its easiest to run events everyone can access.
ah I see
roger dodger, so how many hours into the story i gotta sink in to get my freighter ride?
@uncut harness how is that seean fucking anything up or blaming anyone? people WERE refreshing the site, and causing higher than normal traffic crashing it.. it's not ddos, its the hug of death
literally just trying to raise pitchfgorks
still no pc
@warm surge no shit, the community did. It's literally DDoS, instead of robots we had actual people.
It was a joke.
lol
@uncut harness I think he's trying to communicate; at least he's telling us what the issue on their end is. Honesty is appreciated
Am I the only one who dislike that I can't just slap iron on my pulse engine anymore
Hahaha good point
that is LITERALLY how ddosing works, the site got pinged so much that it died
Also most of my technology is deprecated including both analyser types
Meh, for me thats just blaming @waxen basin
Is there also a no man sky vice Chat on discord?
Wait what does pulse engine run on now?
Voice
Vodka
Tritium or Pyrite
He sould be happy that the game still interest that much peoples after the launch crashed.
Oh man
There's a difference between the hug of death and ddos though. ddos is 'purposefully' killing a site for a reason. The hug of death just kind of happens because of too much excitement.
@tight hull DDOS also involves an element of intent, the outage wasn't intentional
Pyrite is on desert planets and Tritium is on asteroids
Guys they put poprocks from fortnite into NEXT...
Kinda dislike that tbh
That is my point
@quaint basin I mean there's general voice chat down there, but I wouldn't go there if you value your sanity
You'll know it when you see it
They're using actual mineral names now
People saying it was a ddos are dumb
Such chemistry, much wow
what are you talking about? lol Sean had nothing to do with that downage and hes not blaming any one, he actually is communicating
I do like that they are using actual mineral names.
I do like that part
I mean the only thing I'm really bummed about is loosing both analysers
You can watch steam for the update to release here: https://steamdb.info/realtime/
Oh cool so you have to go to certain planet types for different elements?
since it was insane money making
was the update pushed out or no
no not on pc console yes
what
I'm playing on PS4
whens the PC update
No idea.
Neko, we never had an exact release time for pc
what
today at least
If people keep DoSing in a few days
@uncut harness have the analyser upgrade been removed?
Soon™
Its probably going to be in the next 5 hours.
mine got deprecateds
I'm on PC; just joined and I'm scared to ask for a role for fear of being banned
Is pc out yet?
Ok thanks
Will I have to restart?
and no response either
like, a save file
nah
People just saw the "time avaliable" on PS4 and Xbox, and assumed it'd be released around the same time on pc
It's fucked
I’m at work so I can’t check
@waxen basin just go do the role command down in bot-spam. You'll be fine doing it there.
Thanks
Im using my save file with a freigther and 150m
What I care the most is my reputation that I worked insane hours on
Also, will multiplayer only be the 4 people in party now, and not being able to see others you come across?
Ew i squealed so loud when the update finished my throat hurt
Done and done
others will be light orbs?
no there is no party limit
You can see others you come across from what I gathered, but it will be light orbs if they aren't in your party
You cant just run into other players guys, you have to join party. READ THE NOTES PLEASE
I saw a Streamer at xBox, he saw a random player and he wasnt an Orb, it was a normal Player Model
Can I satrt a game and play together later with the same character?
Also i like the idea of not posting irrelevant stuff for the channel, but this is THE No Man's Sky discord, and the hype channel where all the cancer was got deleted, so they obviously moved to the general no mans sky channel, and now we have barely any channels to actually have civilized discussions about NMS
Question since I'm on PC. Can we customize our ships paint scheme?
@uncut harness yes, i think so
why cant i use the no mans sky room?
i dont think they come across as light orbs anymore or PVP would be pointless
up to 16 players per instance, up to 4 players in your squad and orbs only when multiplayer is turned off
its locked???
so the only form of real random encounters is the orbs from the last update?
It’s locked due to spam
oh
People were being cancer so it got locked
@uncut harness thats a good question, I hope so.
People were spamming it to hell
how do i build "Fleet Command Rooms" in frieghters
Hardly spam there just that many people
it says i need one
I seem to still have most of my crafting recipes
Guys read the patch notes.... You wont just run into a player randomly, its party invite system.
im in creative and still cant find it so...
No. It was actual spam. People were throwing the role commands and other things into it that had no place there.
stasis device still sell for 18m
people got nothing better to do, i`m waiting for the PC release aswell but you dont hear me complaining, just play another game and wait
lol
@shrewd mist i found a player randomly
@shrewd mist actually you can
Is NEXT on steam?
@shrewd mist The only form of random encounters are orbs and if someone randomly "joins" your game?
Lol I'm just playing the old version to pass the time
Not yet @solemn nimbus
heyy how do i build fleet command rooms
Only if they join your open party @warm brook
crashes - bas sound and all bases gonbe, so what's the point of their new Galactic Atlas??
@cerulean adder Ok thanks
does anyone know?
You can find player randomly that's part of the new update
should be at some point today though
@uncut harness @warm brook are you sure they didn't randomly join the game from the menu?
You’re welcome
They did @uncut harness
space station are so different now
@shrewd mist please copy/paste this from the notes
So it isn't actually random, except for orbs
how do i build fleet command rooms?
Sidenote, if you have a previous save, go on and sell everything you have, as most elements and components have been reworked/renamed, and you get to keep your money
16 players per instance
Yeah if they’re random people they’ll be an orb
is confirmed
The notes clearly tell you, you have to join party to see eachother, you can leave your party open to "Randomly" see other players but its 16 cap
What's the biggest change that I'll see once I jump into my old save?
But you can "randomly see" orbs
@cerulean adder wow, that's so lame. They're just as cryptic as they were about mp in 2016
which is seeing players
"While wandering the galaxy solo, continue to experience chance encounters with strange floating orbs."
has the story changed at all? i kinda wanna continue off my old save but i dont wanna miss any new story things
ok they're gone..
Yeah, I don’t mind too much though. I’m happy about the co-op. You can see people in your party
That's called being charming, lol. It's a game about mystery, not call of duty
my goodness...I didnt realize the general voice channel is packed lol
how do i build fleet command rooms on frieghters>
When they are release pc?
I mean, my save is pretty new and my character is pretty broke, but it's my save and I don't want to restart
we have no idea, korvax
No one knows @uncut harness
how different do the graphics look to everyone on the ps4?
Again, if you guys want to see when the patch goes live you can watch steam servers here: https://steamdb.info/realtime/
and how is the frame rate?
Korvax reminds me
Hows the optmizations
@waxen basin You dont have to restart
Is three any way to allow the base technician to retain their individuality?
the graphics are fine, loses frames when something is loading or a freighter enters a system
Guys no point in asking all we can do now is just wait be patient yall waited months a few hours won't hurt.....
actually they will
@white ocean problem is that it's pretty late for some of us, so we have to at least initiate the download before we sleep
it doesn't hurt, but it is still annoying as hell
And the last few hours are always the most painful
@white ocean I would give you that if not for the fact that console gamers already have the update..
@waxen basin just leave steam open it downloads updates for me if you have auto-update
@waxen basin pretty sure you can just leave your computer on and turn on auto download
woah my frigate fleet is lit
@warm brook got a screenshot?
no im on ps4
Imagine being ravenously hungry and watching others eat good food while waiting for your own delayed order @white ocean
ah
Wow the rings are so dope, whoever blantly said they were just textures was wrong
Its like gasp
gas
I’m just hoping it’s out by the time I’m off work in a few hours
@uncut harness is there any use for them?
so can you go through the rings?
Though I have it on PS4 too so I’ll play on that if not
Also, rings shouldn't be gaseous
they are transparent ring textures
@waxen basin true but its all on steam now and this isn't food
in a game like elite, the rings spawn into asteroids and other debris when you get close
they obviously couldn't render in all the rocks
Rings should be packed with asteroids; best place for mining and whatnot
so you're left with a transparent texture
Yeah that's a bit of a bummer honestly
@uncut harness you play Elite?
They could always fix that later
i played it for a couple hours
ah...well they do look amazing...but disappointed that you cant navigate them
sick i can BOARD frigates!
Yeah I was hoping they’d actually be asteroids. Maybe in NEXT2 lol
it's a very boring game
How much do freighters cost
boring but realistic
and how do i get one
@uncut harness it's actually pretty fun, but like NMS, needs a lot of work
its ok but it needs more danger/mystery imo @uncut harness
I think as part of story you can get one Neko
this game has a bright future at the rate they are going
I agree bluewolf
NMS is better than elite because you can actually land on planets
You can land on planets in elite
theyre different games
im sure if you couldn't do that, they would render in rocks around the planets
i would like to be vigilant everytime i land on a planet not knowing what could come at me or what types of weathers it could have again more danger/mystery
ones not really BETTER than the other
@waxen basin aside form looking dope nope
You can land on planets in elite [2]
mine asteropids
different types of games
you need the DLC to be able to land on planets
um no
the combat is more fun in elite
sure, it's a nightmare and realistic
but yeah nms has planets
it has better graphics, though most of the game is space
I remember when my roommate kept bitching about NMS after release (after putting in over 200 hours mind you) and switch to Elite he was like "this is everything no man's sky should have been!" so I tried elite for a few hours and could not for the life of me get into it
theyre different games for different people
He said it let him live his dream of being a space trucker
Just depends what you want
in elite you can be any role
Get EVE Online to be a space trucker
That was my impression
That’s pretty awesome
SC will release in a hundred years 
i had to stop following star citizens progress cause it was just taking so long and i was way too excited XD
fire storms of fire gass!!!!
Oh hey in old game it just said I'm disconnected from online servers
That's something
@uncut harness @potent grail
Emily is an AI run on the Atlas that allows the Atlas in the game to be made. The Atlas in the game is an engine hence its dialect and way of speaking through 1.3. In 1.3, the Atlas is dying from its homeworld, allowing multiplayer to happen through the destruction of its attached hierarchy separating each Traveller. That's how I view it, at least.
That's why Loop16 runs on the Atlas engine, as said by WT
The way in which the Atlas is made in the game is through multiple versions of the AI adding to the dream (simulation) that is No Man's Sky (also known as Mercury.) We are in Mercury.XXXX, which is a version made from Loop16 after 1.3.(edited)
WT isn't the origin of the ATLAS, but it's an extension of it. It's another reality in which the ATLAS is hardcoded, stemming from its true source that is revealed in REMEMBRANCE.
Again, just how I view it. I have a doc on this if you'd like to see it. It has this and more in it.
In the game, at least for 1.3, we played as Travellers. Travellers are from REMEMBRANCE, in which... well, you'll see if you play the game a bit more I suppose.
Moved because minor spoilers.
eh it's legible and an interpretation of the lore, so it's not that bad actually
wwwwhhhhaaaaaaaaa
wait, NMS is a simulation?
It's part of the lore bud
I understood at lease 2/3 of that
Deal with it @warm brook
you'll understand 3/3 on my doc and if you play a bit more of NMS and get really into the lore
I like the meta narrative of people realizing they're in a simulation
it's pretty interesting
My assumption is that we were Travellers
oh yeah then you'll like NMS
but since the walls of reality are breaking
Didn't know it acknowledged the updates lol
We are becoming anomalies
at least to each other
and to some extent
I think ANOMALIES in the game for NEXT are dreamers
we play as them starting off because of Season 2's events
That would make more sense
and why they're separate to the travellers
Since the exosuits of the dreamers were the same as anomalies
@uncut harness I enjoy the clarity you bring to these things
on the db thing
Can someone spoil for me, how to get chromatic metal?
That's not discussion for here @slim lantern
thanks ben
has fauna variety been updated, or was it just audio
Oh shit
It's out 😃
No change in old version
oh it just got to public lol
I didn't expect it to kick me out or anything lol
How has fauna changed?
how do i get the station teleportal to work?
In 1.3 you had to own a base first
whatever u guys do when u get the update dont destroy the purple things called whispering eggs fucking monsters pop out of em jesus christ
i do but now it wont work'
FINALLY
HALLELUJAH
We're not geting the woman voice for patch note I guess :/
what
Does the fauna feel more natural?
I kind of miss the old technology system
scanning creatures for 1k credits when i could scan them for 500k just kill me now
Update done!! See you guys in game!!!
So, how do I make credits now?
you dont
glad I sold everything
before the update
tbh I feel like the game is more tedious now.
I really love some of the changes but some of them i dont
like requiring to craft launch fuel to charge trusters
which is essentialy chain crafting
@uncut harness does launch fuel last more than 4 launches?
I duno man everything seems more convoluted for some reason
duno I'd have to check
I do hope this is a way of encouraging the use of exocraft
Before I just had to get thamium, plutonium and iron and it made exploring planets enjoyable but im really not liking this change
At least reduce fuel use or expand fuel tanks
Link fuel use to gravity for example
In fact, why isn't launch thruster use linked to a planet's gravity?
Man I hate losing every single upgrades I had. I forgot how fast I was
????? this freighter is 13m and my old freigther is 4m
haha fucking what
tfw your 100m freigther is just worth 4m now
Freighters for 4 mil
Never got to the point where I owned a freighter
All I have is one lousy B rated ship
A fighter that turns like an arthritic elephant
oh?
If you go to summon other ships
I lost all my ships from freighter
But I was able to land on some planets and call them to me
They are still there in your file thankfully
damn that would be too bad
so going new game best option ? 😃
most likely
I'd rather not
I put over 1k hours in this save
all I wanted was mp tbh
anyone knows how to access old base?
pretty sure all old bases are gone
@versed jackal , does the game at all "show" you how to progress toward the center?
Anyone know what to do with technology modules?
closest would be pointing towards black holes upon finishing the atlas path, though next could have changed that
I just want to know if there's a way to "know" that you
you're progressing toward the center, but I think I gotcha, @versed jackal
K. I just left my first planet so maybe I haven't gotten to the galactic map yet ... Thanks much
How do you escape sentinels in space
Killing them just summons more and I can't use pulse engine
How do I change from third person to first person?
Press x and navitage to options on the left
Don't know the button for quick menu on console
Fucking hell I managed to make it to a space station but it took over 10 minutes of holding down W and shift
Down on d-pad
There has to be some way to get them off your tail
For sentinels you can use the pulse engine between waves, or atleast used to, for pirates you just pick a direction and hold the boost button, and after like 30 sec they will be far enough away for you to use the pulse engine
im just doing base building on a planet i hate because i have no other choice
seems tedious
Me too
Anyone knows if there’s pc ps4 crossplay?
there wasn't before, and its unlikely it would get added without atleast mentioning it in the patch notes
Oh ok. Thanks!
ahahahaha i was right.. prepare yourselves for the arrivals of the furry community
they added low gravity on the moons with no life :0
I’m running through the tutorial with the Alpha vector from jump to see if they fixed this quest chain for once.
Heard there already were Hyperdrive issues? Say it ain’t so.
anyone know where chromatic metal is located?
@digital lotus No way!
@inland smelt i believe you use a furnace or whatever it is called
Omg this update feels like a completely new game
@inland smelt manufacture it from copper, emeril, indium, or cadmium
I think indium yields the most chromatic metal
Hello World
Hi!
so any story changes so far? or too soon?
anyone know how to make a blueprint analyser? hitting a dead end wondering where that tech is at
you learn it from the base building computer
I remember Sean said once in an interview he liked how Minecraft didnt show the player any recipe and left them all to be discovered, by the player
or the thing you build right after it
maybe thats how he was thinking when doing the new recipes?
@lofty cove DERP. thanks man!!!! i didnt interact with the terminal a third time... could've sworn i did a second time at least lol
👍
Yo any body come across those whispering eggs yet. Fml.
HAHA that's literally the second thing i did after getting in-game.....
Shouldn't have touched the eggs.
I got my shit wrecked
ditto. there were only three left when i died but man oh man did it look like a horror movie jumpscare when the one i hadn't seen lept out from the left to kill me
Sorry to bug you all, but hoping for a bit of help as the update downloads... my old save pre-next was glitched and could never find a traveler or grave to get a glyph. Has glyph finding changed?
I had no ammo, was not prepared. I’m still bamboozled with all the changes. I managed to get like 3 eggs
@ember pasture i'd be surprised if anyone knew details about glyph finding yet. i'm sure someone's loaded up an old save tho. no idea sorry man good luck
@covert spindle oh they all hatched and i killed a horde without picking up a single egg 😃 i was just staring like 'what?' and then i ran
The eggs are worth a pretty unit too. 95k a piece but not worth the effort alone tbh.
Oh... i was intending to load up the old save... patch notes didnt say start over and i didnt want to again.. lol :)
And I intend to now walk the opposite direction from all eggs.
🤔
😂😂😂
Also head up, even standing near peals deals major toxic damage 😩
Sorry**pearls
ooooo, 95k, nifty
