still c class garbage but i can keep rerolling
#nms-spoilers
barren berry
Seed?
vestal tangle
no idea
i didnt buy it
anways i ended up going with a class A sentinel style freighter
now im hunting exotic ships
i found a really cool one when i was withotu freighter but i cana't remember which system it was in
it looks like the squid design everyone gets but with sharper looking arms that are closed and a seamless cockpit
it was a class s exotic fighter
versed jackal
Exotic is not the same as S class. Exotic is a specific type like fighter or hauler is. And while all exotics are S class you can also get S class of all the other ship types
vestal tangle
yeah i got into it.. found a defunct script and fixed it up. gonna upload 244 exotic screenshots to github now hehehe
in case anyone wants it
i'll post my github link soon
gonna do other ship types and item types soon
i set it up to put the seed as the name
so i dont have to worry about file names or other sillyness
next up checking into freighters
syncing now
ill add some instructions. since its on git. other people can contribute 😉
instructions addded
its fairly idiot proof
unless you have a reallllly slow computer
im poking through it now
seems theres like only 4 basic phenotypes for exotics
with some overlap options
i wonder about regular ships
getting freighter pictures will be just as easy with my method
what could be fun is to figure out the algorithm used to pick the seeds and reverse engineer it so we can figure out where each ship is "from"
anyways generating freighter pics now
vestal tangle
ok capital freighters uploading now
it got to 47 before game crashed then it tried to make a new game and did weird stuff but i can run it again later
also ic an do multitools but not motivated to do so since its more ofo an inventory screen fashion thing
why are random bits of scaffolding part of the RNG for these freighters
looks great except for the scaffolding
vestal tangle
uploaded some fighter RNG
vestal tangle
there
did multitools tooo
to get it started
29 ofhtem some weird ones appeared too
gonna run explorers while im afk
i wann catch that tie fighter
i saw the damn thing
i know it can be generated
then ill run freighters forever
until i can find one without scaffolding 🤦
vestal tangle
found it
could use the sphere cockpit for more tie-fighter-like-ness
but thats pretty close
vestal tangle
does this work for pc ?https://portalrepository.com/2018/02/13/togquest-001-enter-the-tog/
versed jackal
only if someone put comn stations in the exact same spots
the locations are the same, but comn stations are not shared between ps4 and pc
vestal tangle
i just went there
there is one comm station at the start with someone complaining they only saw 5 ?
and another in the distance 57 minutes walking distance away?
i need to make an exocraft?
can i drive through the portal WITH an exocraft? haha
vestal tangle
ok
yeah your right
i can make those easy
is there anyw ay to get to my freighter
i can summon it into the atmosphere
thanks for infos btw
versed jackal
no ships on the other side of a portal, you can summon the freighter but can't reach it
vestal tangle
started the drive
not too bad
some pits to avoid
i had to make a ramp with grenades..learned my lesson
nomad is fun
hitting those moutains like ski juimps
did the first one. saved at a random base on the way to the next. will finish this later . can't wait to see the hub though 😄
quick fossil
I mean, I'm not sure that HG will have really defined "Summer" as in depth as you're trying too 😂
It'll come when it comes heh 😅
vestal tangle
they said it was coming in the summer
they better add motherships for freighters to park inside of
so we can collect freighters
O_O
naturally we'll need ship yards too
mental socket
they better add hangars for freighters in space stations and give us ability to own space stations to collect freighters
crisp fern
lol
hyperdimensional storage that lets you collect star systems which hold your space stations that hold your freighters that hold your starships
vestal tangle
ok so i got the 16 runes and did the bit with teh portal and walking back to my ship
now randomly while im in space its asking me to reset the galaxy?
vestal tangle
i got trolled hard with that final planet
flying grab+squid aliens
and bright yellow fighter jets never seen either
vestal tangle
im gonna be hitting the point of having to choose whether to go to next galaxy or not.. what are the pros and cons?
cons are less known portal locations and pretty much 0 player interaction in the future right?
aside from that its the same game?
is there any special meta to continually choosing +8 galaxies on the reset?
versed jackal
there are 4 different types of galaxies
which slightly different biome chances among a few other things
First Vicious/Raging is at the 3rd galaxy, then alternating every 12th and 8th from there(i.e 15th, then 23rd, then 35th, then 43rd)
First Abandoned/Ancestral is at the 7th galaxy, then is alternating every 5th and 15th from there(i.e 12th, then 27th, then 32th, then 47th)
First Lush/Tranquil is at the 10th galaxy, then alternating every 9th and 11th from there(i.e 19th, then 30th, then 39th, then 50th)
All other galaxies are balanced/imperfect (same as euclid)
vestal tangle
is there a max # of galaxies to skip through
versed jackal
the orbs you pick at the artemis quest picks the next galaxy of the matching type
if you go through the center, it goes to the next one in order of any type
vestal tangle
once i finihs farming up my blueprints i have nothing left to work towards except banking 1B uinits and trying new galaxies out
units are easy
ok so
im at the part where artemis questline is "the purge"
when i reach the middle is that when i finally get to choose?
versed jackal
right after all the warps
you take a portal
then arrive at an atlas station where you pick
vestal tangle
ok
versed jackal
you can choose to leave after reaching that atlas station, but that choice is permanent
vestal tangle
ahh i see
versed jackal
so as soon as you enter the portal you either have to switch galaxy, or lose the option to pick one
vestal tangle
right
ok will do that then after i get my blueprints
i can just take a portal to the middle . claim a base and proceed
according to my ersearch. in every galaxy. teh portal to the middle is just the first glyph x 12
versed jackal
yeah, it puts you at a system within 5k ly of the center
vestal tangle
so i could concievably and very rapidly cycle through galaxies
versed jackal
(the first glyph x 12 is the exact center, but there are no systems there so it puts you at a nearby one instead)
vestal tangle
+8 steps at at ime?
versed jackal
1 galaxy at a time
you can't skip galaxies
the shortcut from the purge is a 1 time thing
vestal tangle
is the +8 from teh artemix questline only
oh i see
but from what your saying
there really is no point to doing it
it just cycles through the same types of galaxies
versed jackal
yeah just those 4 main types
vestal tangle
and most people are either in euclid or eissantam (+8)
versed jackal
and once you reach galaxy 255 and go to the next one, you end up back in euclid
versed jackal
eissentam is galaxy 10 btw, euclid being 1
versed jackal
no
vestal tangle
i thought we could go straight there
versed jackal
you go straight there
vestal tangle
if we chose tranquil
versed jackal
the orbs go to the next galaxy that matches the type
tranquil goes to the next lush galaxy, if you are in a galaxy before the 10th one, it goes to the 10th one
vestal tangle
i see
versed jackal
if you are in galaxy 10 or a bit later, it goes to the 19th one
vestal tangle
then +1 per completion after that
versed jackal
going though the center is completely different from finishing the artemis quest
vestal tangle
portals are within a galaxy only and player interaction is limited to people who have achived your galaxy
vestal tangle
got it
thanks for the info
i guess I am kind of liking the concept of Eissentam
everything is already discovered in euclid anyways
i have visited like 100 places and all were already discovered ;p
more than 100 mabye 200
shrug
versed jackal
though portals glyphs are basically coordinates, just local to the galaxy you are in. a glyph that leads to the center in 1 galaxy is the center in all galaxies, and 1 that is at the outer edge is at the outer edge for all galaxies etc
vestal tangle
my standard protocol is to warp in. visit the mission dude grab some easy missions to do later (creature, sentilnel scan) check the npcs then go to trade post buy all the thamium and carbon make more warp cells see if anyone gives me an operations centre then i warp to new system and repeat
anythign special about the meta at the outer edge?
are the planets less diverse
assuming those are the newest stars
versed jackal
Distance to center doesnt matter
vestal tangle
ahh i see
maybe in the NEXT update the biome generation meta will have more nuance to it haha
also maybe having other types of planetary and space bodies
gas giants
comets
actual nebulae
death stars
😄
dyson spheres
seriously
vestal tangle
Imho NEXT is rwally rhe next patch from atlas
literally. ATLAS whines about how the 3 races aren't enough variability to make an interesting universe
and now that we know the travelers are RNG mongrels from furry to insect-y to humanoid-y i think ATLAS will be patching in some more races into the simulation
@sullen hornet just tagging you since you wanted to discuss
sullen hornet
Ok
vestal tangle
i think we'll get more npc factions, and some sort of dr. frankenstein RNG based avatar finally
sullen hornet
Well seeing as how we are travellers, i think we will create our avatar with the different traveller body types
vestal tangle
hopefully
they have so far relied on RNG to do everything
even though it would be really easy to compartmentalize the ships and let us design them. we dont have that option atm
also the planet biomes are too simple
1 biome per planet is not immersive 😄
crisp fern
you're not immersive /s
vestal tangle
we are also missing planetary bodies that aren't 'landable planets
like comets? (maybe have thos elandable). gas giants
maybe some space meta with animals the size of starships and freighters
crisp fern
those wouldn't be immersive 😛
vestal tangle
why not
do you not believe in the giant space goat that birthed all of the universe
sullen hornet
Overhauled multitools would be great too, like rifle multitools with scanners would hinder the preformance, but boltcasters would make it better, and we can hold multiple multitools
vestal tangle
yeah the multitools are way too simple
i was expeting to have a bandolier of different multitools
with specializations
crisp fern
We need either a multi-tool mode wheel or flat out multiple multi-tools, lol
vestal tangle
we can specialize with ships now
thanks to freighters
now we just need bandoliers
so we can have multiple multitools
or rather. multi-ish tools 😄
also we need motherships-shipyard thingies
crisp fern
You can specialize with a ship without a freighter, but you have to be willing to commit to the ship type, similar with multi-tools
vestal tangle
so we can store our fleet of 30 freighters
crisp fern
lol as if anyone could even afford 30 freighters atm
crisp fern
but it's stupidly grindy
vestal tangle
but id have to camp out in my base
no adventuring at all
except to that one magical trade terminal that buys at -4.5 always
right now. freighters are like multitools
there is 0 reason to have more htan 1
unless we can have multiple farms hue hue hue
sullen hornet
I think finding parts with different rarities like destiny would be nice, like instead of a regular pulse drive you could get an S class pulse drive with a unique ability i.e.:
The Bane - "holding x makes the drive unstable, but increases speed tenfold"
vestal tangle
items with special affixes
would make the grind more fun
looking for harder fights
letting sentinel motherships appear etc
sullen hornet
WAIT
What about destroying freighter defenses, and being able to land and raid the freighter for loot. This would make piracy a valid playstyle!
vestal tangle
yeah]
boarding
that would require a whole new aspect.. however
the 1vmany current meta would have to change
we'd need real multiplayer and or npc squad mates
that we hire
or recruit from quests
also new ship types or special addons
sullen hornet
Assuming we just fight sentinels, most likely
vestal tangle
like fighter type might not be able to hold infantry
haulers and shuttlesw ould
would
explorers maybe
crisp fern
🤷 or just do the solo smash & grab
vestal tangle
we'd need to have a wing command kind of thing
sullen hornet
Getting 3 other friends together and raiding
vestal tangle
like im playing the fighter ship
and i have invasion shuttle circling
ready for me to send it in
then i join in
sullen hornet
Multiple exosuit specs
crisp fern
you don't really need a squad for piracy
crisp fern
it just adds to the illusion
crisp fern
they probably wouldn't even do much
sullen hornet
@crisp fern but what if you raid a massive freighter with sentinel security for like 50 mil units
crisp fern
what does that even mean tho, lol
crisp fern
like it just instantly flags you with tons of Sentinel security the moment you try to tackle it or that there's some Sentinel security inside or what?
vestal tangle
stealing ships could be interesting
i noticed something
buyign ships @ trade terminals
its possible to heave ships that are "abandoned"
you can revisit to grab them im guessing
sullen hornet
Just mug some poor gek of his exotic squid
vestal tangle
hehe
onyx prairie
I want new hazard tech to jam extreme sentinels, similar to the otherhazard protections
vestal tangle
yheah the pilot interaction meta is light atm
npcs in general are a flavour feature at the moment
if you go full pirate and murderize everys hip and freighter
you can still chat it up with the dudes @ the space station
crisp fern
Ooh, a Sentinel-Repel tech would be neat for sure @onyx prairie
vestal tangle
and they dont seem to care
what would make more sense is if you became a literal outlaw
and couldnt use space stations
crisp fern
That's because they don't have an associated rep cost for interaction because HG are wary of locking people outta too much right away
sullen hornet
If you go and look at the descriptions for the factions and races in game, there is a bunch of stull that isnt in game that it mentions
vestal tangle
there could be like secret bases on planets and moons for pirates
sullen hornet
Like home planets of gek and vykeen, faction benefits, faction ranking and bases
vestal tangle
also
crisp fern
Every base is technically secret to some degree until someone marks it for ya 😛
onyx prairie
That's one of the things I thought might be in the game when they talked about factions - that it would restrict your normal base-interaction options, but might open up new ones on more remote outposts
vestal tangle
if you scan enogh of them that is basically their main goal
crisp fern
I don't imagine we'll ever see home planets for any of the races tbh
vestal tangle
so thats why there aren't cities
per the lore
RNG cities would be amazing though
sullen hornet
What about 2-5 sentinel HQs on planets, and each one you destroy lowers sentinel levels until there are none
vestal tangle
npcs need meta though
crisp fern
Eh, only if they put in the work to make them so
vestal tangle
like WALKING
maybe even being able to fight htem
evry vykeen i meet . "whips it out" and wants me to do the same. some even threaten
but we never get to fight
crisp fern
Also yeah, same here @onyx prairie
sullen hornet
I wanna go to the gek or vykeen home planets
crisp fern
I genuinely think it's because they thought people might just abandon trying to interact with aliens due to not knowing how/wanting to bother improving rep with them.
vestal tangle
and loot them
crisp fern
But that's all to do with underdeveloped guidance/systems to make that an enjoyable process
vestal tangle
building compelx meta like that takes time
they are aa small team and the game is clearly unfinished
its ok as it is but needs improvement
crisp fern
That's basically my sentiment with every open world game
sullen hornet
MP and better planets are really the 2 big features that we want
crisp fern
For me it's better emergent gameplay & planets, MP is whatever
I haven't engaged with much of the MP stuff they've added so far, so it's entirely negligible to me
uncut harness
I want smaller planets with more vegetative density, reworked clouds, orbital and rotational mechanics, and increased LOD on both draw distance and overall planet when being seen from a distance. those are my dreams
as well as a reworked AI system, and ship/multi-tool construction
sullen hornet
I would love PSVR support, it would definitely be the best vr game of all time
crisp fern
I'd like more alien flora before higher flora density, lol
It still bums me out that much of the flora is Earth-esque
uncut harness
the reason why the planets were able to withhold more details pre-release, I would assume, is because of how small they were. the moons in the game now can load in fairly quickly and easily due to their size. it's the same way with pre-release, except they're closer and so the detail is made more obvious
sullen hornet
But more trees akin to rayrods overhaul would be cool
uncut harness
but the detail is still lacking in-game when you approach a planet or stare at it from a distance. I would really like to see that expanded
sullen hornet
Also more stars like quasars would be stellar (its a pun)
vestal tangle
so right now
uncut harness
just make it so that your pulse drives start to fail when going to said sun the closer you get to it, and then eventually you die after a few animations of your screens glitching
crisp fern
I think generally speaking when it comes to assets I just want more strange, unfamiliar, alien stuff
vestal tangle
there is almost no point in exploring a planet
beyond a few things like portal and trade stations
planets need multiple biomes
also
uncut harness
and rivers, and shader-based water, and maybe waterfalls, and expanded fauna, so on. I would love all of this
sullen hornet
You explore to see cool stuff
vestal tangle
those station warp gates. we shoudl be able to bookmark systems
most of the UX i really like
but not being able to flag some systems as always available to warp to
is annoying
onyx prairie
from a gameplay pov I understand not having multiple full biomes, but what they could do is vary the main biome more over larger regions
sullen hornet
Sean murray is currently writing all this down
vestal tangle
crisp fern
HG probably had a bunch of this already mapped out to some degree as they developed the game, lol
Then just had to decide which would make the most sense to try & pursue & accommodate within a reasonable timeframe
vestal tangle
also this nonesense. the capital ships are covered in scaffolding. the regular freighters are not
sullen hornet
Yeah, they know what they are gonna do with nms its definitely planned to some extent
vestal tangle
either these are proto capital ships that will be properly fleshed out in NEXT or they just dont realize how silly they look
onyx prairie
like some parts of the planet would have denser foliage, others more mountainous, etc... there's variation in that now but it changes quickly and feels too uniform over the whole planet. More distinct regions of the same general biome type would do wonders
vestal tangle
pangea type situations could be cool
like one giant land mass and then giant water mass
so you could have 2 biomes wihtout trying too hard by making the underwater meta intersting
right now there aren't really large water bodies like that
sullen hornet
What about catastrophic planetary events, like exotic planets spontaneously exploding
vestal tangle
yeah
crisp fern
Tbh I don't think they have a well structured vision of NMS. I think they drank their own Kool-Aid a bit, & lost sight of a clearer design.
onyx prairie
heh. That seems extreme, but rare stuff like meteor impacts and such would be great
sullen hornet
"Everyones either got kool aid or cool AIDS"
crisp fern
I wouldn't be shocked if some of their vision of NMS wasn't too unlike us spitballing here.
uncut harness
water needs massive improvements in general IMO. beaches are spazzy and rarely generate next to said water, rivers are not as pronounced, the water has weird artifacts, the god rays give weird visual appearances, the sea-life is a little disappointing, ships still can't fly into it (and hopefully die that way), and there isn't anything in the water to actually explore except a more boring version of land with very similar flora/fauna all over the place except less in variety
vestal tangle
Fleet meta
crisp fern
A lot of it sounds nice on paper, but the real work comes in the way of designing it so it all meshes well & feels good without feeling overly incoherent & disjointed.
vestal tangle
I wamt to command a fleet
vestal tangle
Make my own faction conquer systems
crisp fern
Dav play modded X3, lol That'll give ya fleets & trading in spades
vestal tangle
Build up defenses
Garvey type npc that lets me know when a settlement err spaace station is in trouble
sullen hornet
I want Lennon to have a massive city on it
vestal tangle
Hehe
crisp fern
If anything they should take notes of what not to do from Fallout 4, lol
sullen hornet
"This space settlement needs your help"
crisp fern
Emulate basebuilding, ☑ Emulate Garvey, ❎
vestal tangle
I have to learn how to fly properly
crisp fern
It's very different & simmy, takes much more to get into, but it has much of what you're talking about in some form or another
sullen hornet
Yes
vestal tangle
and cantinas whewe we can shoot it out
they clearly are star wars fans
with all the design similarities
sullen hornet
Also there should be this man:
crisp fern
it's a shame
considering star wars
is baaad 👀
crisp fern
people don't even use exocraft tho so lol
vestal tangle
nomad is f-ing incredible
sullen hornet
No Mans Sky: Survival Evolved
crisp fern
shame Ark is a clusterfuck mess of ideas
vestal tangle
have you portalled into a world
thats when ytou need nomad
pop that sucker out
and your flying like a flying squirrel
i renamed mine to flying squirrel
sullen hornet
Ark is just dumb, especially at the end when you go into the dumbass space garbage place with a robot bossfight
vestal tangle
regular planet visits of course a ship is better for traversal
NMS also needs better cave meta
caves are too simple and if there is fauna . you will encounter a fucking crab ass hole
strafing around until it gets you
underground trading terminals
for pirates
so can't be scanned
have to learn location from pirates or quests
sullen hornet
Or the lil buttplugs that bitchslap you for no reason
vestal tangle
or observing ships entering planet
yeah hehe
OR YOUR FERIGHTER ACTUALLY HELPING INBATTLE
vestal tangle
i rerollved my frighter crew a bunch with the editor to see different names hehehe
ther eis ALOT of variability on how gek and vykeen look
not so much with korvax
travelelrs have like 3-4 base archetypes with some variabilities in them
furry, insect, robot, reptilian
crisp fern
...Doesn't that kind of just spoil it for ya?
vestal tangle
we are in #nms-spoilers
how does looking at different names and faces spoil anything
crisp fern
No I know, but I just mean like...Why would you want to do that instead of encountering it naturally?
vestal tangle
graphical changes isnt "content" when looking at flavour npcs whos text in never read in the first place
crisp fern
That's...Part of exploration? Encountering different looking stuff by jumping about
vestal tangle
they always say the same thing and dont even offer quests @ the freighter
except to rescue capital freighters
exploring static npcs isnt exploring;
crisp fern
Wow, uh, we have very different opinions on what constitutes content apparently
sullen hornet
@crisp fern im wit you
vestal tangle
the animals on random planet have more game to them
crisp fern
Apparently every planet should just be drastic stat changes and seeing big numbers
Because who needs visuals
vestal tangle
dont be reductive
everyone is allowed to enjoy things differently
i bet i like different food than you
and different colours
crisp fern
I mean sure, I just find it remarkably offensive to discount visual differences as not being content 🤷
sullen hornet
For me, variety and cool stuff to look at is something that nms needs the most, NMS isnt an mmorpg or a shoot n loot
crisp fern
Regardless, we obviously just differ in opinion on that
vestal tangle
thats fine
crisp fern
I think the creatures aren't much better than the NPCs tbh
sullen hornet
While certain spec improvements could benefit nms, it doesnt need it now
blazing river
Fauna is a joke
sullen hornet
Yup
vestal tangle
we need tameables
crisp fern
They have a very similar issue to the NPCs in terms of behavioral similarities
vestal tangle
when you visit a planet you will see cool shit
but you can't take it with you
id love to take some of my findings with me hehehe
blazing river
scream run stop and walk scream
sullen hornet
Isnt that what the discoveries tab is for
crisp fern
Instead of just sitting around, they just wander around, and the interactions are all approximately the same. Were it not for the visual diversity with them, they'd be significantly blander, which I hate to say.
vestal tangle
flying crabs for example
chain some of those together
and make a flying vehicule
sullen hornet
It would be cool to have pets, but NMS needs to get its core together before they add pets and followers
sullen hornet
No Manstiny : The Taken King
vestal tangle
also iive noticed the npcs are all male... as it the title of the game. they should rename it to no person and or apache helicopter's sky so that the SJW angle is appeased.
sullen hornet
R u saying nms needs some thiccness
sullen hornet
I agree
crisp fern
I think digging deeper into the existing biomes and fleshing out their weather systems & flora behaviors, then also building out their fauna behaviors would go a long way to improving the general experience.
crisp fern
Dav, the NPCs aren't all male, lol
sullen hornet
Travellerccs
vestal tangle
i did find a vykeen named sue
i took a screenshot
because it looked more like a steve
im sure i offended her/it by assuming its gender
sullen hornet
Nms needs some big tiddy travellers
crisp fern
Then again, I've not tried scanning the NPCs since Atlas Rises, so maybe they did add a note of some sort to them 🤔
vestal tangle
yeah the fan service is lacking
we need humanoid morphology for animals to
too
someone will find some weird tit monster
sullen hornet
Fan Service =/= space prostitutes
sullen hornet
No Mans Hentai
sullen hornet
Yehp
sullen hornet
Same
vestal tangle
animals have tons of different genders
vestal tangle
doesnt seem like i can scan npcs on scpace stations
nothign happens on the scanner
sullen hornet
Try a trade terminal on a planet mabye, ima try that
Also i wanna go back to euclid im on eissentam
vestal tangle
there is a tool that does that
sullen hornet
Im on ps4
vestal tangle
google it. i saw a reference to itwhen i was reading baout galaxy types last night
oh nm
can ps4 saves be edited?
sullen hornet
Mabye if you jailbreak it, but idk if sony keeps tabs on me because im a beta tester for new firmware
I dont wanna risk a ban
vestal tangle
really? its just a save file ? i thought you could just copy to and from console
unless its one of the protected saves
i mremeber on ps3/360 some games had protected ssaves while most did not
ive skipped this gen of consoles
so im not familiar with the meta
on my ps3 i can just put in a usb stick and use the menu to backup my saves and restore them no muss no fuss. some games of course wont copy the saves out which is fine (and stupid on their part because if i lose the saves ill never play again)
sullen hornet
The saves cant be extracted as far as I know, unless you take out the HDD, but they can be put in.
crisp fern
You can back up easily via USB, but they're protected so you can't just easily edit them & copy them back over
vestal tangle
oh encrypted
crisp fern
Yeah, there's some software out there for PS4 saves, but it's eehh
vestal tangle
editing save files is fair game imho. changing system software/firmware is not. if you want an unlocked system. build an actual gaming PC 😄
crisp fern
I think they protect the saves as a means to protect the system software/firmware.
Which is kind of dumb in itself, since you should build in protections in those to avoid exploits through modified saves, but businesses gonna dumb business
sullen hornet
Sony always assumes their playerbase is under 10 years old, hence why there is no cross platform on ps4
They "dont wanna hurt the kiddies"
vestal tangle
is that kind of like how nintendo had ot pull their social media experiemnt
because people were finding ways of making it weird
sullen hornet
Kinda, cept sony missed out on things like minecraft pe
vestal tangle
anyways protecting saves in single player games is silly but if you play on consoles that is what you signe dup for. part of the value proposition is that everyone is playing the same game the same way (except that now console games have mods available hehe)
sullen hornet
Huge potential profit
vestal tangle
back to NMS
those flying crabs
first time i ever saw those
and last time
was freaky
i saw a herd of htem and lost my shit
was like fucking crabs are coming
but i scan and they are passive herbivores
sullen hornet
Flying spaget monster
vestal tangle
i know right
but they look similiar to the asshats in the caves
i walked up to one and fet it some heridium
or whatever
it ate something when i pressed the interact
sullen hornet
I just had an awesome atmospheric battle with some pirates in a valley
blazing river
vestal tangle
buy a ship at a trading station
and then attack your old ship
since it is abandoned. it wont attack back
but it will have 3 stars on it
as it its aggro
it will just sit there
i thought that was a nice touch
like the ships wont attack if there isnt a pilot
that is a bit deeper meta that i'd have expected
means its some vestigial link to a feature coming later or planned for maybe lataer
where factions matter a bit more
"female" ? vykeen
sullen hornet
Nah, female vykeen are described ingame as being different than male
I saw that from a random lil snippet of dialogue when talking with a vykeen
vestal tangle
ahh
mabye in NEXT we'll see gender equality
korvaccs tho
hnnggg g e c c
Im impressed that hg has managed not a single ounce of fan service
here it is
blazing river
nada
sullen hornet
Marco polo
snow berry
SPOILER: Han solo dies in the upcoming nms update
plush sleet
vestal tangle
ok i have the final bit of artemis quest ready anytime i want. its my last warp-to location on station portals and i have a waypoint @ the pportal and its unlocked and ready to go through. do i go thorugh and start working on eissentam or stay in euclid
slate prism
k
mossy hedge
I got to the eissentam
Because of the last mission
Were I could reset into 4 galaxies
slate prism
oh, the center
mossy hedge
But my base is in euclid 😦
versed jackal
no
the base gets auto dismantled when you switch galaxy
also can't teleport between galaxies
vestal tangle
thats why i havent switched yet but i am tempted
crisp fern
never settle always move
slate prism
Can I bring Freighter over
vestal tangle
allegedley i havent done it myself
real sapphire
You can bring your freigter into another galaxy
radiant crescent
i wish you could actually fly your freighter around a system though.
real sapphire
Me too
real sapphire
Dude... xD
radiant crescent
😉
mossy hedge
Wait for real? @versed jackal ?
Why doesnt the game tell you that?
I put a lot of time into my base
I was rocking an amazing planet
versed jackal
well its telling you that you are resetting the universe
would you expect 1 random planet you choose to remain unaffected?
mossy hedge
No but just like all facilities I think the base should remain too
On planets
Boi I cant play till friday
This is a big feelsbadman
Luckily the stuff in containers stay saved
So my rare recources are still saved
hearty bane
what galaxy was the one with all the chill planets again?
mossy hedge
If you are looking for the galaxy with a lot of lush planets, then go to eissentam
If you’re looking for a galaxy full of aggresive sentinels and weather, then go to calypso
hearty bane
yeah no, but thanks
dyou think its worth going there? i'd like to visit the hub as well one day
im guessing thats not possible if im there
mossy hedge
Yea that is a mistake I made
I accidentally traveled to eissentam after completing the stoey
Story
Now I lost my base and chance to go to the hub
real sapphire
Well there are hubs in eissentam too, for base, you can build another base in a new planet there
mossy hedge
Alright take the most important stuff with ya in your inventory
Because itll only store up half in the new base’s slots
Thanks! @real sapphire
real sapphire
@mossy hedge no problem, it won't be as big as Euclid one, but its better than nothing yea
mossy hedge
Very true
real sapphire
on ps4 or pc
mossy hedge
Ps4
slate prism
Let's do this
I'm heading off to the next galaxy
uncut harness
oooh which one?
slate prism
I don't even know
I just know that I'm heading to the center, and it might take a couple of weeks
mossy hedge
Finishing the story is quicker tho
slate prism
But apparently, there's an order to the galaxies?
mossy hedge
And it lets you decide
slate prism
...
mossy hedge
Yes there is
slate prism
What do you mean by decide
mossy hedge
You get to choose between
Eissentam, calypso, hilbert dimension and an other galaxy
slate prism
What's the other one
mossy hedge
Eissentam contains 40% more lush planets than euclid, and calypso contains more hazardous planets
I forgot
You can search it up on yt tho
crisp fern
Verdant/Conflict/Balanced/Abandoned if memory serves
slate prism
Hesperius Dimension?
crisp fern
Eissentam=verdant, more lush planets. Calypso=conflict, so more extreme conditions/aggressive Sentinels. Balanced is like Euclid...Maybe that's Hilbert? Not sure.
Abandoned is my fav. as it has more dead/weird planets, but dunno the galaxy name for it.
mossy hedge
It was like
Hostile
Verdant
Not yet finished system
Old system
I just forgot the short names for them
crisp fern
Abandoned & Balanced are the other two
mossy hedge
Ohhk
I choose eissentam and will be exploring it from friday
Looked up some videos on youtube and there are great planets I havent yet seen in euclid
versed jackal
Lush/tranquil = Eissentam(10th)
Vicious/raging = Calypso(3rd)
Abandoned/Ancestral = Budullangr(7th)
Balanced/imperfect = Hilbert(2nd)
lush and abandoned are pretty much the reverse of each other
lush has more lush planets and less dead, adds chance of exotic planets in yellow star systems
abandoned has more dead and less lush, adds chance of exotic planets in yellow star systems
vicious has more extreme planets, both weather and sentinels
balanced is the default that most galaxies has, like euclid
crisp fern
Sweet, remembered mostly right! 😄
mossy hedge
Alright cool!
Happy I choose eissentam
Wouldnt see myself enjoying calypso as much hahah
crisp fern
I will always beat the dead planet since those are my fav. Oases amidst the busy feel of some other worlds.
molten berry
quick question, if I haven't collected all of the glyphs and am going through the purge mission will I still be able to continue to collect the glyphs in the new galaxy?
versed jackal
Yes
molten berry
cool thanks
hearty bane
Guys i need your help
Im really conflicted if i should be going to eissentam or not
Parts of me wants to stay in euclid
But another part wants to go
vestal tangle
im gonna do it soon. im getting sick of "exploring" euclid but not actually discoveryring ANYTHING new because someone else has dicovered it already.. how exactly is this a gigantic galaxy anyways? heh
hearty bane
That seems.. unlikely?
vestal tangle
it does seem unlikely but
ive visited like 130 systems ?
and anytime i check to see if someone has discovvered it already. they have
rough copper
lol are you in the hub by chance?
vestal tangle
no
rough copper
So you go in the galaxy map, scan for discoveries, and ALL the stars around you have circles?
rough copper
Ah so then you pretend that there aren't buildings and NPCs? lol
vestal tangle
😦
its every 8 galaxies that is l ush right
i think i should go to 24 or 32
eissentam is gonna get crowded
rough copper
lol it's not crowded, a galaxy has billions and billions of stars... there are like 10k people who still play
vestal tangle
holy crap there was 200k people online at the same time @ launch
thats just on steam
rough copper
Yeah then 2000 a month later lol
vestal tangle
not counting console peasant networks (CPN) and GoG
1.3 spiked it to 14k
500-800 is the actual average daily
ok
maybe il be happy with eissentam then
rough copper
Yeah I think you've just been very "unlucky" running into those player discoveries
For some reason I avoid them too lol, even though it's not like the planets are tainted if another player has been there
vestal tangle
for the longest time i thought i had found a cool star system where i have my home base currently
i go into online mode
and everything in there from the dirt to the moons
is discovered by "GrooveBitch"
my naming etc all foiled
default garbage names
ill hunt for a base in online mode in eissentam
lofty cove
that's a decision you can only make on your own!
echo musk
DIE DIDE IDE
vestal tangle
i personally "Saved" him
because im an archivist. deleting save files is sacrilege
molten berry
wow, so I'm going through the purge and suddently finding an altas pass v3, a s-class ship, and a bunch of other things I was looking for, yet, somehow couldn't find them before this point lol
echo musk
hmmm
vestal tangle
RNGesus doesnt want you to reboot
crisp fern
Holy shit I just had a wild realization. @uncut harness you'd probably be into this. It's extremely thin at the moment, but I think there's just enough there to build this idea out. Artemis finds themselves in a space between realities possibly thanks to being tricked by their exosuit voice, one might presume a Telamon iteration.
We can't be entirely sure what their motivations were in this, beyond potentially trying to find an out to escape their relegation to an exosuit subsystem. That said, in that attempt, they appear to have led Artemis to what may be a/the World of Glass. That world is detailed in Derelict logs 13 & 14 specifically, but seemingly going on indirectly past that in logs 15-18 found here: https://pastebin.com/H2Cpq6ud
Artemis notes during the last part of Alone Amidst the Stars:
"I discovered the glyphs for a portal, Traveller, a gateway between worlds. I thought it would lead me to another of our kind. But now... I don't even know if the voice was real. The pathway collapsed while I was still inside. I found this place in the darkness. I thought perhaps it was a planet. I - kzzkt - I was so wrong, I - I can see their faces, I - kzzkt - there are seeds of glass within their -"Then at the start of Ghost in the Machine as you speak with Apollo:
"These noises, they sound just like the echoes of Sentinel events. You've seen them before, of course. Drones that appear from nowhere if you interfere with their precious planets. But this data, it's distorted, inverted...The Vy'keen will pay handsomely if we figure out how the Sentinels appear so quickly. And this recording of yours? The portals? Perhaps they're the key."While it's hard to say for sure...Perhaps the distortion & inversion is a hint that whatever these glass beings are, are essentially the opposite of Sentinels? Instead of seeking to preserve & protect, they act to destroy & attack...Hinted at more explicitly by the aforementioned Derelict logs.
So maybe, in a weird turn of events, we might find ourselves fighting alongside(?) Sentinels to fend off, for lack of a better term, Intruders/Assailants?
uncut harness
possibly. very interesting
that might lead into the crusade concept earlier in Waking Titan. they go world to world and destroy
other than that, I have no clue what the point of that was
crisp fern
Well not just to destroy though, I'm beginning to think.
It might be the glass embedded in them absorbs some intellectual aspect of what they kill, so it's not just to sustain them
uncut harness
"We will come to your world as we have to many others," so maybe, actually. we'll have to see
crisp fern
Here's where a much bigger leap happens, however...What if these Assailants were originally Ware users? And that the way in which Ware went awry wasn't so simple as rendering its users comatose, but in literally mixing & melding minds together? 🤔
Too big a leap to make at the moment, I feel, but it will be interesting to see how WT develops & if this comes to match up
lucid sphinx
BWare
echo musk
Pof
vestal tangle
well
the sentinels can be summoned to save your ass from pirates
so there is some proto-bro-sentinel stuff in place
defense chits
maybe we'll pick a faction
could be fun to destroy planets
with reaper-bros
oor be neutral ass hats
cosmic cairn
I pick Korvax. They are just chill and want to observe. The gek are greedy and I wouldnt trust many due to greed. The Vykeen are too aggressive and bloodthirsty, they would let anger consume them over logic. So korvax till I die.
vestal tangle
the korvaccs are on the side of the sentinels
vykeen are opposed
gek are puppets of the korvaccs
im gonna go with any other faction than those 3
lofty cove
it's Korvax 😛
vestal tangle
korvaccs, vycceen, gecc
just wait till the female version appear
they tease a little bit in the game but its too simple
sharp cairn
How do you know that isn't a female? How do you know the Vy'keen aren't hermaphrodites? How do you know there are only two Vy'keen genders? 😃
vestal tangle
well
the fauna genders are interesting
and confusing
what is orthoganal?
right angles
so genders that aren't diametrically opposed in function
O_o thanks RNG
cosmic cairn
Quick question: is Nal the Vykeen, -null- in a previous form. The wiki states that Nal was saved in a different form.and began to doubt themselves. Sounds like -null- and so does the name in some respects
crisp fern
To the best of my knowledge, there's nothing to firmly support or discount that speculation, so 🤷
echo musk
guys..... i just jumped into the portal while playing ..... oh... my... atlas.....
'Hello, world'
vestal tangle
i went to eissentam
wish i didnt go there with my largest ship
F M L
no iron so i had to melee some rocks ot unlock my laser
echo musk
hmmm...
vestal tangle
meanwhile
i can sumon my freighter but not get to it
which i have like 1000 of ecah key thing
along with fully stocked. other ships
hehehehehehe
crisp lark
Question; what all do I lose if I finish The Purge questline
crisp lark
@mild condor Quick followup. I don't own a freighter yet so I use my exocrafts for storage. I don't lose those inventories either, right?
mossy hedge
@vestal tangle same lol I had to go primitive because I had no iron, carbon and heridium with me
echo musk
wait, I went through a portal, but now im on a random part of the galaxy
(playing the artemis storyline)
i chose to not reset.... did i choose wrong?
real sapphire
its fine 😃
well if you reset you get to choose between the 4 orbs right?
wait you didn't reset.
real sapphire
hmm well its your choice tho
but if you choose to reset
you are given four choices
echo musk
but do i get to choose again?
echo musk
soooo. how do i get back??
real sapphire
no way to get back, you can choose to reload previous (provided if the time before you went into the atlas station)
echo musk
sure
real sapphire
it will be a bit of a spoiler but anyway
if you choose to reset, you are given 4 choices
- Imperfect
- Raging
- Ancestral
- Tranquil
echo musk
hmm
echo musk
so im thinking that raging has a lot of like crim n stuff
ancestral might have it like it was a long time ago (in game)
Tranquil will have peace and stuff
aaaand imperfect will have a more stable systems like euclid
maybe?
real sapphire
hmm so which you you would like to knwo about?
echo musk
ancestral
real sapphire
Ok
basically Ancestral Galaxy, you will wake up in a planet within Budullangr galaxy
Ancestral galaxy have higher chance of dead and exotic planets in yellow star systems
real sapphire
higher chance of dead planets
normal chance of exotic planets in yellow star system
yea 😉
its your choice if you start a new game.
vestal tangle
is it possible that planet has no habital bases?
i found a gamma planet that actually an ocean planet
with trading posts. buildings. monoliths. crashed ships etc
but i cant find a habital base
real sapphire
@vestal tangle #345541072228974592
slate prism
Alright, if you need cash fast
Start a frost-whatever farm, make glass, and sell it
Like, populate your entire base with just frost-stuff
vestal tangle
@slow yacht
what is your ideal location
I found a gamma world that has oceans
with little isladns that have attractions like bases monoliths etc
its in eissentam. i provided details in #345541072228974592
uncut harness
Hey everyone. Anyone know a way to restart the atlas path on ps4? Missing a seed and pretty much stuck now as far as I have read.
pure yacht
I am yet to reset the atlas cuz I dont wanna lose my base
oblique scaffold
Im ready
mossy hedge
Are you done with the story?
oblique scaffold
so do they did something with the portals?
pure yacht
Well, Im currently working on getting all the seeds
mossy hedge
Yea you can travel through em now
oblique scaffold
I think I finished collecting those orbs and did something with atlas idk
mossy hedge
Oh I leave the seeds for when I have nothing to do
oblique scaffold
ah nice!
pure yacht
But yeah, I refuesed to reset the Atlas, I was worried I would lose my base
oblique scaffold
do they get you to another galaxy? how do you get your ship/base back?
mossy hedge
Have you been to the galaxy selecting station?
oblique scaffold
no
mossy hedge
@pure yacht
pure yacht
Im not sure what that even is.....
oblique scaffold
neither am I
pure yacht
I pretty much did the 16/16 things, then went to the final interface, and didn't wipe the system
mossy hedge
@oblique scaffold you have to type in a coordinate of another portal, or just fill in something random after filling up all the energy slots, then itll warp you to another system within the galaxy
Wait so you had the countdown?
mossy hedge
Well after that in the atlas station, it gave you 3 choices
One of the choices let you choose 4 galaxies. Of where which they get you to either eissentam, hilbert dimension, calypso and another one
oblique scaffold
can I use my old save, from the foundation update? it had like 21 million units
pure yacht
But what if i decided not to wipe the system
oblique scaffold
guess im gonna try when I get home tonight
mossy hedge
Yes you can use that slot, senor
I dont remember, but its on youtube jacob
@oblique scaffold One big problem that came after a certain update, is that lush worlds are less immersive, and more plain
But the rest are pretty much pros
Who knows what NEXT will bring us this summer
pure yacht
You guys want some frost crystals? I've got like 4000 just laying around xD
mossy hedge
ooo pass through
pure yacht
So, I am having issues finding videos or online posts about keeping my base/deciding to go back and wipe the system
Cuz, I want to wipe the atlas to get to other dimensions, but I really don't want to lose all my work I put into my base...
mossy hedge
Youll lose your base after warping to another galaxy
It'll be still there
BUT
You can never go back
pure yacht
Oh
mossy hedge
So if you want to warp, be sure to take your most valuable stuff put into the base with ya
pure yacht
Now, what if I claim a new base, does the old stuff get put into the recollection thing?
mossy hedge
Yes, but only half
mossy hedge
So a simple example, from a wall that costed 10 iron, you'll get 5
and that with everything
Ye I am building up my farm everyday now
Got 51 of those indoor plant growing stuff
will grow 17 pots of solanium, 17 pots of freeze crystal and 17 pots of cactus flesh in there, and a lot of star flower stuff outside
pure yacht
Also, I finally managed to find a useful post online about returning to the final interface, and apparently: you can't
The choice to go to a new system is a 1 time thing apparently, unless you get to the center of the universe, over and over
mossy hedge
We're kinda getting off topic channel-wise tho xd
pure yacht
Well, some of this is still spoiler-ey
mossy hedge
RIP your opportunity to travel to another galaxy very quickly
pure yacht
And I don't want to ruin the ending for others
Yeah
Unless I find all the glyphs and look up addresses near the center and hope that they exist
pure yacht
No, addresses are per galaxy
mossy hedge
there are 256 galaxies in total. I wonder if someone ever reached a galaxy above 50. All the galaxy colors are known on the wiki though, but it's impossible that someone reached the last galaxy
mossy hedge
Eissentam has 40% more lush planets
Calypso has more extreme condition planets
Hilbert Dimension idk
pure yacht
So, its more just a higher chance of finding a specific planet is all
mossy hedge
The other option is the same as euclid
And I have no clue about the other 252 galaxies
pure yacht
So I can still find equally as good planets in Euclid, it might just take a while
mossy hedge
Yes
pure yacht
Oh ok lol
pure yacht
So, Im just gonna remain in Euclid for now then, since if NEXT adds proper multiplayer, i want to play with people, and most of them will be in euclid
Yeah thats pretty sweet
pure yacht
Oh I think I've seen this before!
Isn;t it where there are like a ton of farms and stuff all over?
mossy hedge
Yes but mainly a place for players to meet up
So like the best multiplayer experience you can have for now
In NMS
A lot of player bases there too
pure yacht
Interesting
mossy hedge
Ye
pure yacht
Too bad multiplayer is super limited tho
mossy hedge
True, but I believe that NEXT will give a huge change in that
pure yacht
I bet, since they introduced basic multiplayer in the last update, and they seem to build a lot upon previous updates for the upcoming ones
pure yacht
Also, NEXT has been in development for almost a year, so it will probably be very big
pure yacht
ye
crisp fern
@pure yacht I kinda suspect the Atlas is the integration of the various civilizations' attempts at understanding reality by creating an AI driven sim
My thinking on that is that in some way they may have found a means to connect with one another & drew themselves together
pure yacht
Would be a cool thing to build upon
crisp fern
Fuck, fuck, fuck! I just read over something really striking that I didn't realize they slipped into the Artemis Path because of the decisions I made!
lofty cove
?
pure yacht
What is it? @crisp fern
crisp fern
You may already know if ya chose to save Artemis & have finished the Artemis Path 😛
lofty cove
pure yacht
I mean, I saved Artemis on my previous game, but not this one, however that was almost a year ago, so I probably won't remember what happened
real sapphire
Iteration 27489216? 🤔 (from traveller's dialogue)
wispy vortex
guys im stuck in the story mode
i am on that mission where you are spawned far away from your ship however when i do get to my ship non of the menus open and the game appears frozen although its still continueing the planet cycle
i have done this three times and it wont stop 🤔
uncut harness
L Plays saying WARE displays how the beings within it function is a neat idea but would kinda change the plot too much for me. I like having the characters simulated beings than having any direct correlation to humans besides being made by them through a domino effect
also, the longer I stare at what happened with Arnaud, the more I doubt that was supposed to be related to him being in the NMS simulation
also, again, travellers were directly referenced in the lore as being made through a scan from the CREATOR, not headset-wearing humans
last moon
So, when you get to the atlas station that has pedestals for (stones? I can't remember what they are called now, but the orb stone things I got recipes from atlas stations for ), I'm guessing I need to put 1 of each type onto the pedestals right? So, in other words, I will need several of the first stone to create the later stones, etc. right? Just a lot of resources to gather and I was trying to make sure I'm right first. THANKS FOR THE HELP!
mossy hedge
yes came across one today
echo musk
@crisp fern WHAT IS IT????
pure yacht
lol
crisp fern
@echo musk kzkkt
echo musk
@crisp fern you are not... kzkkt. Alone
mellow shuttle
hmm, anything to do to prepare for the NEXT update
blazing river
Farm up materials!
Do some grinding for units and get a nice ship!
Preferably, though, make your farm Freighter-based
mellow shuttle
is base building worth it?
blazing river
Sorta- if you want to show off what you've built or bring people over, nice, other than that it's just for farming and progression
mellow shuttle
right
blazing river
It would be nice to stock up on units and nanites while you have the time though
mellow shuttle
then I gotta finish the Artemis quest first
blazing river