nah, it was still limited to the slot count for capital freighter I think
#nms-spoilers
versed jackal
versed jackal
so 168m - 465m
native frost
Once my living glass farm gets off the ground, Iβll grab a freighter
mossy idol
So, is there any way to save Apollo? What happens if you refuse to give him the coordinates?
native frost
Oh he won't die either way
mossy idol
Oh really
mossy idol
I told him but then I felt bad so I reloaded the save and lied
Was just curious to see what would happen
native frost
the first time I put him in the sim and told him straight up
second time I let him die
felt better about my 2nd choice but idk
versed jackal
you can kill him by bringing him through the portal, but you can also save him when bringing him through, or save him by not having him go through
talking about apollo
multiple choices for all 3 characters, with different mission dialogues
just minor changes and what atlas tells you at the end though
native frost
had no idea Apollo was killable
versed jackal
think he dies if you ask him to go through without warning him of the danger
native frost
oh cool
mossy idol
Considering I got a message from him and he said the atlas had him trapped and the last monologue was "I'm sure my friend is dead" I think I fucked up lol
native frost
rip Apollo
mossy idol
Dammit he was my favorite xD
Well at least I still got nada and polo :p
Speaking of which how the hell do you get the atlas pass v2
versed jackal
2 ways, as one of the 40 product recipes at manufacturing facilities and operation centers, or as the 12th reward from polo
about 70% of manufacturing facility puzzles and 35% of operation center puzzles give product recipes, they don't give duplicates so the more you got the higher the chance of getting the atlas passes
ivory swan
Doing the story, it's asking if I want to reset the simulation. What happens if I do?
versed jackal
you leave the current galaxy and go to the next one
losing access to your current base if you got one
assuming you are at the stage where you can choose between 4 orbs
ivory swan
I refused, I don't want to go to the next galaxy right now.
bronze folio
Yeah that twist was pretty cool
I like the themes of reducing the morality to chemical switches
It's a neat play on technicality and philosophy. Very old school, mind fuckery, scifi
native frost
Then Explore the Galaxy
uncut harness
@native frost are there any hubs in next one
uncut harness
what about compleate the atlas path
native frost
do any of those choices
uncut harness
is that wortg it
native frost
Sure, that'd work π
If you wanna stay in Euclid, just Refuse the Atlas in the final interface
uncut harness
pparently theres new stuff since i last played atlas wise
native frost
iirc
versed jackal
and get permanent black hole markers
uncut harness
worth it?
versed jackal
only costs time
uncut harness
@versed jackal
apparently theres a room
where you pick a colour
abd it takes you there
versed jackal
yes
versed jackal
each of the 4 choices is 1 type of galaxy, each having slightly different stats
the tranquil one is the lush galaxy type
uncut harness
do you know the stats?
versed jackal
which has more lush biomes in yellow star system than normal
I know the biome probabilities
uncut harness
can i be shown
versed jackal
and that vicious/raging got more extreme planets
uncut harness
Tysm
versed jackal
there are other stats, but I got no numbers on that and don't know for sure
versed jackal
yes, of those 3 choices non are permanent, its just which direction you want to be guided to right now
like do you want to finish the story and get the 4 choices(pick final interace), or do you want to finish atlas path first(pick atlas) or do you just want to do those later
uncut harness
thanks
versed jackal
and if you go to the final interface, pretty sure you still got the option of not taking any and just staying in your current galaxy
uncut harness
being doing the missions while searching for a lush world
native frost
@versed jackal wait I didn't fuck up did I
I bet I did
can you not finish Atlas Path in non-euclid galaxies?
versed jackal
if you switch galaxy while in the middle of any mission it just continues on the other side
though I think some might do the same reset as if you had used the button after going through a black hole
native frost
I got a little worried there π I need to get Remembrance eventually
versed jackal
like you get a new copy of the item used in the delivery missions
wooden jay
im not there but someone will answer in here 
calm grail
native frost
If you don't wanna leave Euclid
refuse
@uncut harness they're random
they're just exotic planets
you can find them all over the place π
native frost
If you can find the same type of planet
uncut harness
wait ...
native frost
I suppose if you had the resources at the time you could make a signal booster and note down the co-ordinates
native frost
rip
real sapphire
max slots for exosuit cargo?
native frost
24 cargo, 48 general. That's like, a lot of slots to carry shit
72 unique things
24,000 carry capacity altogether. Pretty great.
real sapphire
alright thanks
real sapphire
each harvest gives how many gases? @versed jackal
versed jackal
1 stack per hour
250
alternatively you can buy 150-800 gas from wealthy system shops on planets, assuming it picks one of the 3 gases as one of the random items to sell
and if you are super lucky, it can random the gas at the station or the ships there, and it would sell 3000-5000
but random items are much rarer there
usually its just the 9 guaranteed ones + market commodities
real sapphire
alright thanks
i gonna start gas harvesting very soon, since i have fusion ignitor blueprint now
i'm still relying on LE and LG
thanks @versed jackal π
versed jackal
np
real sapphire
hmm iirc, max gas collector per planet is 3?
versed jackal
believe so
real sapphire
ok well gonna start collecting gas -looks at the formula- might take a bit, cuz i have no solanium planted...
my farm is focus on LE/LG
uncut harness
ok so apparently doing the level 8 mission to raid a planetary harvester
spawns 3 drones
1 quad
and 2 walkers
2 walkers was a surprise
versed jackal
usually been 2 walkers, 2 quads and 3 drones for me, but yes
pretty much need good weapons, or blast open the door as fast as possible
walker knockback is a pain
lofty cove
be vewy vewy quiet, i'm hunting sentinels
lofty cove
you can feed animals so why can't you feed sentinels, yeah!
uncut harness
sentinels poop pugneum
only if I get a Gek pet
Feed your Gek with Nipnip
Harvests your stuff on your base for you
uncut harness
@uncut harness so basically slavery
you're just as bad as the korvax :/
I'd become a slave if I get payed on Nipnip
uncut harness
@teal steeple when you have time - is there a way to pull the rewards from freighters?
crashed ones
uncut harness
freighters are such a piss
You need: Iron, Zinc, Thamium9, Plutonium, Carbon, Heridium, Fungal Mould, Gamma Root, Coprite, Lubricant, Heat Capacitor, Circuit Board, Acid to open containers
Reward: Nanties and Units.
mossy idol
So, what does Remembrance do?
lofty cove
it lets you read some lore stuff i think
uncut harness
It's a shield upgrade
short hornet
@mild condor yes but why DLC?
All the updates have been free and that's exactly why the hate is slowly going down
Why suddenly make a payed DLC now?
errant portal
nm
bitter fulcrum
quiet horizon
As in those four options you get after the atlas disappears?
uncut harness
yess
quiet horizon
Choose whatever type floats your boat. If you want to stay in Euclid, I suggest you reload an earlier save where atlas hasn't gone yet and choose the other option
quiet horizon
Uh..yeah, I think so
uncut harness
if choose one of the colored galaxies?
quiet horizon
I'm not sure, it's been a while since I did it
It's the same as flying into the centre
uncut harness
are each a diff galaxy?
quiet horizon
I'm not sure what the difference is between them, maybe the generation, But yeah, I think it is.
I realise I may not be the best person to help with this
uncut harness
I PUT ARTEMIS ON A SIMULATION
ARTEMIS IS ON A SIMULATION ON A SIMULATION
I HEARD YOU LIKE SIMULATIONS
ivory swan
I did that too.
uncut harness
He was like
"Oh NO, I AM IN A SIMULATION! THIS IS TERRIBLE!"
later on I'm laughing
what if real life is also a simulation
we put someone on a simulation inside a simulation inside a simulation
atomic hill
If you're playing in a VM, it already is three layers.
uncut harness
same
woven topaz
What if u emulate NMS on a VM remotely controlled by an external device and you put Artemis in the simulation
DEEP
atomic hill
Remote control doesn't count as simulation
wooden jay
playing no man sky in a ps4 emulator in a vm in an emulated pc on your phone ?
bronze folio
@lofty cove the Artemis line references thousands of "gravity generators" at one point
To me that sounds like something you'd have on a super structure in space, unless it just means electrical generators that use gravity and not generators that create gravity
lofty cove
would that not be referring to the in simulation universe though?
versed jackal
There are references to humans having existed in some version of the simulations, and also that some simulations have been deleted or things being removed from all
bronze folio
I thought that segment was referring to the external state, the physical computer, as driven home by the game repeating an explanation of 16 minutes and that the Traveller doesn't know how long that relates to in the simulation
Hypothetical, practically infinite universes are born, progressed and terminated, as the Polo and Nada dialogue refers, and all of those span within a minute of "real world" time, as 16 is persistent
I thought in the same sentence that the 16 minutes was revealed, it mentioned gravity generators failing
To me it gave me the impression that the computer in the outside world was falling apart, and potentially more, that the computer is insanely big if it requires thousands of gravity generators
lofty cove
i don't know if i missed it, but I personally never saw anything about gravity generators
bronze folio
It was only one mention
bronze folio
I thought it was something like "Gravity generators xx through xxx failing... 16 minutes until failure" or something
Mass generators?
Hmm
Maybe I imagined it
lofty cove
i still think that would be in game anyways. the only thing that seems like it's specifically out of simulation is 16
versed jackal
"16 MINUTES OF OPERATIONAL TIME REMAINING / FRAGMENTATION IMMINENT / DATA UPLOAD IN β"
"EXTREME GRAVITATIONAL EVENT // BACKUP GENERATORS 1β9845 FAILING // DATA UPLOAD IN β"
versed jackal
"It is dying. The Atlas is dying... It cries out at me, afraid..."
bronze folio
Oh I see
Makes sense
Still, a lot of generators and a gravity event
That sounds like a unified structure?
Unless it took over everything on Earth, but would a computer classify everything as a generator?
lofty cove
it doesn't say they're power generators per se
bronze folio
True
And the Atlas is still running... could be on backup power though
Gravitational event sounds pretty cool though
lofty cove
i could see that being an earthquake
bronze folio
That would be kind've anticlimactic to me
lofty cove
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
versed jackal
"We are anomalous, we have amazing anomaly station, yes, but β kzzkkt β but we are still fabricated beings. We β kzzkkt β not like you, we β kzkkt β
Talk of nature brings pain, brings danger. But trust we know, friend! Trust we cry with you, that we will be with you, always, no matter the danger or cost. You are friend!" - polo
bronze folio
How about... a rogue planet came to say hi? Or the sun collapses
versed jackal
huh, the player is not fabricated being
bronze folio
Interesting
lofty cove
we jacked into the simulation and forgot how we got in
bronze folio
Is it a TRON kinda deal? were we sent in from outside as mechanics or something, and we'll travel outside to save the Atlas, or will instruct it how to save itself if it's big enough and can control physical things too?
Or maybe... the Atlas is a super station traveling in space that's about to whack into another world and we're inhabitants of that world sent up to stop it from destroying our world, Oblivion style (the Atlas DOES look like the Tet)
This is just fun idealization, not serious speculation
I think being sent in and forgetting who we are would be in line with the themes, of that our identities and decisions are just "switches in the brain". I loved that twist with the Gek
I like how it reduced morality to a technicality
Seemed... realistic, instead of scifi that adds some kind of magical, spiritual significance in a canonized way to its lore
real sapphire
https://redd.it/7cwg0e curious question, any bases that is underwater, the interior of the base won't be affected by water?
opaque flare
heh, if I can't have an underground base without the land generating inside, water is next best thing, lol
real sapphire
well my base is sort of underground
but an underwater base would be cool
https://imgur.com/wLkV039 just a linkway
it have been like this since the first time i carved the tunnels
ivory swan
You can make a base underground? How is that even possible?
real sapphire
@ivory swan just carve out the tunnels using structures
real sapphire
π
me too, i accidentally carved out a hole, then π‘
wait actually its before my current base, was on my starting planet when i just plop a square room and boom
a hole is carved!
real sapphire
does certain boundary failure lores related to the planet itself?
i mean, the "ANALYSIS:" I;ve seen, on a glass world
Analysis: <something here> A world of glass
or
Analysis: [Infected/Compromised] on a virus planet
real sapphire
hmm ok
bleak jolt
I think that has to do with the theory of our actual world being a simulation
Moreover, from what I remember from the Foundation logs, the Atlas simulation was a by-product of its dreams
atomic hill
there are "two" Atlases.
The Atlas Foundation, which runs loop16 (emily), who runs the simulation. There's also the in-game Atlas.
bleak jolt
But the in-game Atlas is the personification of the simulation, right?
atomic hill
My own theory is that the simulation Atlas is a "link" to loop16 that gives the simulation monitoring/control over the simulation itself.
bleak jolt
well the simulation itself was created from Emily's 'dreams'
so the simulation Atlas is either something akin to a subconscious state for Emily
or it's some subset of Emily that is dedicated to the simulation itself
atomic hill
possibly. i don't think loop16 really knows what it's dreaming of except for the end result, if not for the ingame atlas.
bleak jolt
but then, Emily's never mentioned any aspect of the NMS world, has she?
bleak jolt
true
I'll think on it while I'm in class
instead of actually paying attention to cv2
light heron
Hi guys, I have some questions that I want to ask. Been trying to google but I cant seem to find the answers (or I couldnt understand) .
-
I am 40 hours to the game and still at my 3rd system, I have a base there, completed all base-related quests. Am i too slow?
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I have this βAlone amidst the starsβ on my quest log (I guess thats the artemis path?), what happen if I follow all the quest line until the end? From what I found, if I understand it correctly, at the end, I will be reborn into a different galaxy and start everything all over again?
Either way, do I keep my things like exosuit, ships, units, etc? Or do they reset everything?
Ah i see, so completing the artemis path doesnt take me to the centre of the universe? Or does it? Like, what happens once you reach the centre of the universe? Does the game end or it just resets everything again?
I just wanna make sure I dont lose everyhing once I decided to do the quest line and stuffs
Ah okay. So if i go to another galaxy, all quests will be restarted, basically redoing everything like in euclid except without losing my things right?
Which means on another galaxy I wont have any quests except the ones I ask from space station?
Oh so I get to do another path?
Except the path that I chose from the previous galaxy
Alright, everythingβs clear now. Thanks for the explanation, appreciate. Cheers man π
solemn cypress
Will I loose by bade if its on a freighter when switching galaxies?
If I was to move all my base resources into the freighter storage/storage units would I loose that? I only ask because I have like 80 gamma weeds 48 frost wart and 32 coprite I don't want to rebuild
woven topaz
you freighter base will be fine across galaxies, your planet base on the other hand will be lost
selling your freighter will clear any built structures on the inside though
warped root
Que?
solemn cypress
Wait
Seriously?
@mild condor where did you read this?
Oh
I just want better flora and fauna
And optimization
I love getting 20fps on low settings at 720p
That and it'd be nice if the cannons on freighters did something
raw storm
slim flint
so what goes on in the rooms that requires the remembrance orb thing?
lofty cove
you can read some lore i think
slim flint
ah
real sapphire
...did i screw up something? i find out that i have 1 more atlas seed recipe not in
Novae Reclament Recipe
versed jackal
there was a bug where the atlas station would say nothing, and then sometimes it would still count as having gotten the recipe
supposedly fixed in later version but not sure
I got the blank atlas station bug in 1.32? I think, but I reloaded save and went to another station and it was fine
real sapphire
π€
so what now
uhg..
Well i did visited an atlas interface just now, and it says nothing
i reloaded my yesterday's save, and visited another interface, i get the heart of the sun recipe
real sapphire
meh seems like i won't be able to get the seed back, but anyways, just gonna enjoy the game as it is π
lofty cove
the sandwich should've fixed everything
i hope
π€·
π
yep!
which features in particular do you mean?
i can understand most of that except the portals. What about those feels incomplete to you?
ah. yeah i could see them being the multiplayer link or something. unless the other secret door in the anomalies would be that.
i think the issue with that was a hard date set by the ARG (and how playstation patches work)
so if they had more time all that stuff would've been in base 1.3
it'll definitely be interesting to see what they have in store for 1.4
heh, rhyme
if it is, they're going to need to have a good/interesting reason to do so
i'm still on the fence about a player economy
like the game is totally set up for it, but i can't imagine it going well. like i imagine people would manage to screw it up somehow π€
but for real, it'd be nice if you could buy basic things like thamium etc. from other players, so someone else gets an actual benefit
or maybe build a special device or something.
Musterpoint?
Hmm π€
maybe you originally would've had to build one of those instead of just having the current call thing
which sounds more likely tbh
in their current incarnation they're definitely meant to just be for visiting specific places, so it'll be interesting to see if they end up changing the concept or leaving that as is
uncut harness
@mild condor that's needed on dead planets.
near basin
I don't know much about the lore lol
I only know the sentinels are somewhat connected to the atlas. Right?
shrug
mossy idol
Because they pissed off the atlas worshiping korvax hivemind
versed jackal
there is a bunch of stuff related to the first spawn from all the plaques/ruins you find on gek world, though some of the later stuff is revealed during the story
mossy idol
With all the enslavement
To the point where the sentinels came into existence and destroyed an entire planet
And the only survivors were nada and polo if Iβm correct
versed jackal
and yeah, the sentinels were some kind of sub-program of the atlas, that glitched/went rogue
mossy idol
Also can I just say that I love how illusive the atlas is
It seems to have no motivation
And doesnβt seem to be good or evil
You just get mixed feelings
versed jackal
well, the motivation atm seems to be about sending a message, and panicking trying to stay alive
I wonder if we will get more lore related to the deleted universes in later patches
mossy idol
I fucking hope we get more story
I love the lore of this game lol
It just feels like they gave up after the universe reset
near basin
I like that when you scan a sentinel it tells something about what it's doing
versed jackal
there is quite a bit of different messages there, some of them kinda interesting lore wise
sadly they dont really impact their actual behavior in gameplay though
versed jackal
I wonder if they will explain why sentinels dont aggro aslong as you can't see them π
mossy idol
Think thatβs just game function
near basin
It felt like I said hello to the sentinel
versed jackal
so do I, but just for fun
versed jackal
I wonder how it will deal with resetting the universe, when null acts like it will delete him
near basin
As far as I know -null- is the one traveler that defied atlas to live forever and explore everything and got banned from his reality
mossy idol
Wait you can?
versed jackal
he also feels that he killed others to keep exploring
mossy idol
Since when?
versed jackal
as in switching galaxies has no impact on your progress
mossy idol
Ah I see
versed jackal
if you go through the center for example
mossy idol
Iβm just staying in my Euclid galaxy
near basin
I'm far from done exploring and I chose to not follow the story lol
I can always pick it up again if I want
mossy idol
I feel like just warping 16 times is cheaty
versed jackal
well, that's how they made it
just have to wait to get the glyph code for the story portal
near basin
I found a nice moon around a beatiful planet. I searched for an abandoned base with a signal booster and settled there for now
only occasional heat storms and cold nights
versed jackal
barren(desert)?
near basin
Nope
versed jackal
since it had cold nights
near basin
I can't remember what type of moon it was
It's cold enough for my temperature protection to kick in
Well the nights are
In daytime it's a pleasant 29 degrees C
versed jackal
so either barren or lush
near basin
And sometimes there is a heat storm which makes the temp go up to 109 degrees
Hot enough to boil water
versed jackal
hmm, that should be barren, it has cactuses right?
versed jackal
yeah barren is just the name of the biome type with the cactuses
near basin
Oh ok
versed jackal
can have lots of plants that fits the theme
near basin
Yeah there are mostly cacti but there are some weird trees as well
Is it cacti?
I can't remember
versed jackal
both are correct
near basin
K
There is also a lot of grass
So yeah I guess it counts as barren but isn't really barren
versed jackal
dead planets used to be able to be named barren planet/moon :/ atleast they removed that but still kinda confusing
uncut harness
Galaxies will BURN. Every single life form will SUFFER. They will know only DEATH. Those who oppose us will... what is this Korvax doing? What are these nanites for? What is this weird feeling... I feel... like... trading! Let's do some trading! I love trading!
mossy idol
Polo best fren
signal ibex
hang on a tic...it said "commencing atlas suit" something.
I missed it...it spoke a little too fast
native frost
Oh man
I have never seen the end of the Atlas Path proper I don't think
I've had the option to Birth a Star before
but I've never had the walking through where the Interface usually is to where the Galactic Select is at the end of Artemis
This is pretty Ominous
Whaaaaaaat
I thought I'd seen everything
but apparently not
versed jackal
lol
native frost
This is so cool
holy shit
Well that was way cooler than the first way I birthed a star
Well that was way cooler than the first way I birthed a star
versed jackal
they did change it up a bit, though the result is mostly the same
native frost
That was 100% worth doing
and now it just wants me to get to the center again
coolio
versed jackal
yeah, thats the reward
native frost
Woo
versed jackal
though it will restart the last step if you go to a system with an atlas station again, which is kinda annoying, but can just ignore it
versed jackal
also now when you get the remembrance recipe you can craft it, if you dont already have it
versed jackal
Think you can still get the black hole reveal even without the seed
native frost
Access to new terminals woop
versed jackal
aw
real sapphire
!@#$
but anyways, i've already gotten over with it
knowing that i'm not the only one affected
signal ibex
what is that you're missing? the one requiring Cymatagen?
real sapphire
Yea
signal ibex
I've lost my way to the next Atlas....and can't find Nada and Polo. But I did beat the Artemis storyline.
what the hell is this "atlas sequence 2/16?" Is the freakin universe about to implode or something?
versed jackal
part of the story, you are getting glyph coordinates to an atlas station, glyph by glyph
fathom silo
ΰΌΌ γ€ ββ ΰΌ½γ€: 1.4 is coming
signal ibex
So I took my first black hole and lo and behold Polo and Nada were there at the other sidce
side*
Polo gives me Ricochet Tau...thanks, man.
But at least I'm back on the Atlas path.
versed jackal
Ricochet tau is #11. Warp theta is #16. Minimum 10 hours to go
(Anomaly spawns after 2 hours since you last saw them + 3 warps)
Alternatively find it at nanite vendor. Or use a freighter warp
short hornet
But ket
Explain how the anomaly got in my home system
3 times
All different ones
I didn't warp to get in my home system
Just a portal to my base
short hornet
3 times?
native frost
Yeah it can happen
versed jackal
it warps to your system upon loading as well
if you fufil the conditions
and portal counts as well
signal ibex
so bottom line is: patience, grasshopper, and all will be revealed
last moon
@versed jackal Since you are all knowing NMS guy....hahah....I have a question about atlas path.
I understand that the (Artemis?) mission will give me the chance to warp to other galaxies. I have also done the atlas path in earlier versions of NMS. I don't know much of anything about the recent changes to it. I want to stay in Euclid for now, and so I'm not doing the Artemis path right now. (I want to save the possibility of warping galaxies) I want to do the Atlas path, but I don't want to move galaxies or start over or anything like that. What are the recent changes to the path? Can I do it and just go back to what I'm doing now in Euclid without changing anything really? Thanks.
last moon
@mild condor Thanks for the info!
Yeah I meant "travel" to another galaxy, not warp like other "warps".
Okay, so if I go the Artemis path, and "reset", do I lose my base? Will I be able to do Artemis path again after "reset" so I can skip a couple of galaxies later?
@mild condor Again...thanks! That clears it up for me then. I will do the atlas path and save the Artemis path for when I am ready to change galaxies. At that point I can pack my stuff in a freighter and storage cubes for the base and rebuild it after I change galaxies. Alright, cool.
near basin
I just found a pic of a derelict terminal displaying a data log
It said "the first drone screamed when we cut it open"
All I can think of is
"Poor sentinel"
Also that suggests it's not entirely mechanical
If that's the case
speculation mode activated
versed jackal
do korvax scream?
near basin
Could we possible domesticate them?
near basin
Nice
So If that would be implemented as a game mechanic
Does that mean I can get a pet 
Because I want a pet
versed jackal
"#3 {Spare Parts}
The client requires spare parts for a personal project. Long ago, they overwrote the brain of a damaged Sentinel quadruped with a simple AI of their own creation. This salvaged machine has proved to be a loyal companion. However, various bearings and hydraulic systems are beginning to wear out. They require an explorer to disable or destroy an advanced Sentinel, so that they might harvest it for spares parts and restore their pet to full working order."
near basin
Oooooh
I would like a pet drone more tho lol
Now I have an idea
I could make a cardboard sentinel
And just have that in my room
For fun
maybe I could even attach it to my tiny stunt drone
and make it fly around
versed jackal
"#8 {A Sentinel of One's Own}
The client has worked hard to grow a substantial nursery garden, full of rare and valuable plants. However, this has attracted thieves and other plant plunderers. The client seeks to construct their own private Sentinel force to monitor their trees. The have a large number of parts from downed drones, but to complete their patrol group they need pieces from a Sentinel quad or walker. They seek an explorer to perform the necessary combat manoeuvres."
heh:
#8 {Sweet Release}
The client believes that the anger of the Sentinels derives from a deep-seated pain. They propose that the drones suffer in eternal mechanical torment, their souls burning inside their metal shells. They believe it is their duty to free these beings from their suffering.
real sapphire
Warning: Sentinel Walkers Detected
short hornet
Put him in a simulation and don't feel bad about it
I didn't tell him and made him believe we would still reach each other one day and he is happy so so am I
quiet horizon
I told it that it was in a simulation at the first chance I had
short hornet
Is there any pronunciation we didn't use yet?
versed jackal
Considering apollo is there i'm assuming its based on the greek gods, and artemis is a goddess, though nothing(except random animals) got gender specified
coral nova
I told him aswell
versed jackal
and this run i'm letting them all die π
versed jackal
you can kill atleast 2, possible all 3, dont remember
versed jackal
and atlas will comment on it
coral nova
You're a bad person Ket
Thats what the Atlas will say
And then the Atlas will desinitegrate you
Desintegrate
craggy prism
Desinitegrate
coral nova
versed jackal
disintegrate?
coral nova
Don't judge my English
I'm only 17
Disintegrate is added to my vocabulary now
Thanks
craggy prism
Disintirigigrate
short hornet
Disintirigigirate*
coral nova
Distinguishably
slow yacht
Dun Dun DUNNNNN
coral nova
Dun
short hornet
What
I thought kzzzt was a convenient placed communication error
But now a vykeen who is literally sitting in front of me has them too
sweet idol
its a glitch
but i have noticed something
in permadeath, on the death quotes, they are all glitchy - the number 16 is involved in this glitches by replacing the letter 'i' with 16
which leads me to believe ((well we know)) that we are 16
something interesting
short hornet
Is it a glitch, or a "glitch"
lofty cove
there's at least 16 NMS players π€
short hornet
So I just got to the point where I was going to a crashed ship with Apolo even tho we couldn't see each other
And the logs were... Interesting
Was that Sean Murray?
Talking about the atlas resetting for the best? Becoming a different atlas?
It was definitely the creator of the atlas talking and I can only think of 1 person who fits that role
lofty cove
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
short hornet
Wait... So for the record
A portal gives me the option to face the atlas or turn back for now
Will I be able to come back if I go trough?
To my base and stuff atleast
lofty cove
if you're at the part i think you're at, you should be fine to go through
the one time where it matters should be really obvious
versed jackal
yeah, if its the one I think of, then you get left at a random planet, but you can always teleport back to base
the one that matters is after the 16 warps
near basin
I had a monolith once which asked me if I wanted to end my journey and go "home" or continue my exploration
I chose "ask for a portal location"
:P
near basin
What
short hornet
Damn it made me jump up from my couch
versed jackal
@near basin "I see a strange vision. Blue light pours from the monolith as if a curtain has been dropped within. I hear a gentle hubbub of voices, and catch a familiar smell on the breeze. I cannot remember my home, but I know that this doorway leads there.
I ache for a past I cannot remember. Every inch of my soul wants to make the leap back. I look to the skies, and the infinity beyond. Can I truly abandon my journey, when it's only just begun?"
that one? π
near basin
Yes
Although in dutch there was also a kid that looked trough my visor and started crying for me to come home or something
versed jackal
huh so they rewrote it?
near basin
I think so
versed jackal
"A child emerges from the monolith. It takes a few moments before I realise that... it's me. I look carefree and innocent. The little one stares up at my exosuit, and tries to see me through my visor.
The child suddenly starts to weep, and clings to my knees. It implores me never to leave. It doesn't want to be alone. I should stay here forever. We should be reunited. Whole again once more."
versed jackal
huh, I see a theme with these korvax monoliths
the one after those is also home related
near basin
Huh
versed jackal
"I begin to feel dizzy. A strange lethargy comes over me, and I feel compelled to lie down in front of the ancient relic. This place feels calming. It feels like home, wherever that might have once been.
I know that if I truly wanted to fight the impulse to sleep I probably could, but I feel warm and comfortable basking in the glow of the ancient runes."
near basin
That first one with the kid makes me wonder, how does my character look form the front? but I think we all wonder how that looks
I mean
I think we have a helmet of some sorts
But in the cover there is only the cap thing we wear
versed jackal
I wonder what the chances are that we are playing as some human looking traveler, or if its the same kind of traveler as all the others
near basin
Hmmm
versed jackal
the humans did kind of get deleted from the simulation, but the character we play is also kinda special and the "last" traveller
versed jackal
well. likely got memory wiped multiple times already, or reused
so can't really know
might all be clones with some variations of the same source
versed jackal
the original race was likely human, but over multiple iterations everything has been warped or tweaked, and the ones closest to the original has been wiped going by the crashed freighter logs and the boundary failure logs
near basin
Yeah
versed jackal
and the whole repeating cycle thing being the atlas screaming because it can't fix the bug
with warrior, scientist, trader cycle, always ending in violence
that null takes about
versed jackal
let me see if I can get some quotes
"All I know is this. The Atlas had infinity to work with, and with few exceptions, this triad repeats... Gek, Korvax, Vy'keen. Gek, Korvax, Vy'keen. Traders, warriors, scientists, all their stories ending in violence.
Think about it. How would the Atlas speak, how would it cry for help? It would use the only language it knew. It would speak with life. It would create.
Whatever these lifeforms do, they always end in conflict. I think something terrible is happening to the Atlas. It is screaming, the only way it knows how."
null, during the middle act
short hornet
Hmm
Need to go to the center now
But I won't yet lol. I basically count this as story completed, time to get a freighter, more ships etc
Then maybe finish it for good
versed jackal
btw, that go to the center thing is just 16 warps, then using a specific portal
short hornet
16...
lofty cove
15
versed jackal
14
short hornet
π
lofty cove
13
short hornet
Countdown to universe destruction?!
near basin
12
short hornet
owo
versed jackal
11
lofty cove
10
near basin
9
nova rose
8
versed jackal
7
near basin
6
lofty cove
5
versed jackal
4
near basin
3
lofty cove
2
nova rose
1
lofty cove
π¨
versed jackal
versed jackal
short hornet
I blame you guys for breaking the universe
@near basin actually the atlas would know but I don't want to spoil you
versed jackal
short hornet
Wot
lofty cove
ur a wot
short hornet
I wonder what would have happend if I said yes to the atlas asking me if I wanted it to kill me
Would it just be black rip dead
versed jackal
nothing happens last I remember, but atlas might comment on it, dont remember
short hornet
s u r e t h a t w o n t t a k e l o n g
near basin
Jk
near basin
I imagine atlas would say something like. "Oh, I thought you liked the universe I created"
short hornet
Goddammit there is no tea
near basin
insert Arthur Dent quote
Does nobody get the hitchhikers guide reference
Seriously?
versed jackal
I got it, but didn't comment on it
nova rose
But it canβt increase chances of atlas stations because those are set and donβt move or disappear
They are spread throughout the galaxy systematically
atomic hill
I think the game doesn't push you towards Atlas stations/etc if you don't accept guidance.
They'll still be there i think, but they won't do much of use.
nova rose
Yeah
atomic hill
Yeah, it's been a while so I can't be too sure how accurate my info is. π
nova rose
You can still do the atlas path though, after interacting with the first station. It just wont show you where it is.
Ok so I looked at it on the wiki and none of the two choices you make at the beginning seem to impact the game in any other way than to show/not show the way to the next atlas station
I actually had a bug with those telecom calls. In the ship I had the actual caller was too much to the left of my cockpit and thus out of view. So Iβve only ever seen text until I realized that thereβs dome dude standing there
atomic hill
game development bugs \o/
nova rose
I think the info is pretty recent because they did some changes to the atlas path the last 2 updates and the wiki should adapt
I donβt think I changed FOV though
Iβm probably gonna start all new anyway when ray rods overhaul is fully released.
atomic hill
Yeah, our own wiki is nothing compared to, say, UESP
nova rose
Iβm not sure how I can check time of last edit on mobile but whatβs on that wiki page sounds like what I experienced when I started over after 1.3 so Iβm pretty sure itβs up to date.
real sapphire
Usually rubeum have nothing to do, you can just mine and sell if you want
however, Rubeum is used to create one of Atlas Seeds
short hornet
Why is this a spoiler
versed jackal
its not really, its a red system only resource, there is one for blue and green systems as well
all 3 are required for atlas path
real sapphire
Common resource to be exact
versed jackal
they are worth slightly more than emirl and gold to mine, but at that stage the amount of money you get from manual mining is not much
coral nova
Yeah... Crazy days
past lodge
You get the final warpcore from the anomaly right?
versed jackal
Warp reactor theta?
you can either buy it from gek nanite vendors(rare) or as the 16th reward from polo at the anomaly
past lodge
Polo gave me the third atlas pass, which I already had instead.
Havent found it in a shop yet..
versed jackal
polo gives stuff in a set order, doesn't care about what you get from other places
but atlas pass v3 is the 14th one, so just 2 more
need 10 planets scanned though if you haven't already done so
short hornet
Dang. I'm happy that I finally got 1
My home planet
And I've only seen the last animal once
past lodge
I barely have the two scanned.
Its so unpleasant to search a planets for hours.
100% because you're forced to.
versed jackal
just skip a planet if it takes too long
can usually find them all in 30min or so, otherwise skip it
varies a bit depending on how many creatures there are and if there is water or not
and once you have done a lot of daytime exploring fly over to night side, or the other way around
past lodge
thanks
versed jackal
there are 4 spawns zones + either day or night exclusivity, or both
water, air, ground, and cave
cave creatures can spawn near cave areas so its usually mixed with ground areas
versed jackal
no specific distance? unless you are talking about something else?
in addition to the areas they are limited to, some are just rarer than others
the rarest is like 5 groups per squareKm I think, though it depends on which type of creatures it picked for that planet
most of the time its 10 groups per squareKm for the rarest ground creature
actually, the sparse table has a few at 1 per squareKm
so those are even rarer
hmm, maybe I should make a table for all the possible ecosystems
and list how many are of each type for those
its actually fairly straight forward in the files
like the most common air table
has 2 creatures
though 1 of them only has a 25% chance of being enabled
and they are both daytime only
over 50% of all planets uses that one
then there are 5 other tables that it picks from sometimes that are a bit rarer
pretty massive spoilers though, but might explain some stuff for some people
and of cource mods like rayrods changes them a lot
Guess I got a new project for when i'm done with the ship and multi-tool guide
hmm, is there really never more than 2 fliers, except when it picks the buys table and it spawns 3?
thought I had seen some with 4, but maybe not
hmm, It only spawns cave creatures at mid and high creature planets
and then there is only a 50% chance
if it does pick cave creatures, it still has a chance of not spawning any
but it has a 25% chance of there being a cave blob, a 75% chance of there being a cave spider, and a 50% chance of there being a cave rat active, independent of each other
if there is water, there are always 2 prey species, and a 50% chance of there being a predator as a third one
rough copper
coral nova
Yup
Idk
Mixed feelings
I liked it a lot... But it was too long imo
No but I rather shorten the chewing
cursive siren
I think 1.4 will drop soon, then the ARG will start up ramping up to a huge update in 1.5 that is a few months ago
graceful pike
whats ARG
quiet horizon
Like Professor Layton but real
I've already got a little kid with me
and i'm rocking a top hat
real jasper
that new BM-Episode feels a bit like, when you tell Artemis where he is right now
quiet horizon
Didn't want to post this in the arg chat because spoilers but didn't artemis say something about shattered glass?
tardy sleet
hey is someone around to help me with end-story question, I have to make a decision and I'm nervous π
I'm at the end of the purge, went through portal, in atlas station
I can either reset sim or refuse. I want to stay in this galaxy but I want to get Rememberance
what should I choose π
quiet horizon
Refuse is how you stay
quiet horizon
I think so, I'm not too sure π
trail sparrow
you dont lose your freighter and ships if you chose reset right?
trail sparrow
itd just suck to lose an A clas freighter and 5 other S classes
amber knot
I am missing one of the recipes to build the Rememberance. How does that even happen. π¦ (well, I know how, there a was permanent Atlas Interface in my home system and I went back in a few times to see what would happen.) Now suddenly I find all these terminals that need it. Sigh.
how much am I missing? storywise
versed jackal
amber knot
thanks!
uncut harness
how long is the story
about 30 hours
according to the trailer
damn
thats like almost gta levels
haha
yeah and hopefully the new update only brings more story
I think it will though
if it ever comes
It will
lets hope it does
more reason to pick up again
yeah definitely
have u finished story
is it worth doing
Yeah
it's really good
And I have a feeling that if you finish the storyline then the next update will make a lot of sense
I don't wanna spoil anything so yeah
hmm
in that case
i should finish the story
yeah
Don't have to but I think it really is worth ti
lol
it looks interesting imo
yeah
signal ibex
got the last interface...heart of the sun
short hornet
There are quite some binary stuff at story points, even just the start of a new game and I always wondered what they said
short hornet
Ah, dunno what else I expected, were too short for longer words
versed jackal
the korvax that beats a rhythm says atlas in binary
and you reply with 16
in binary
delicate harness
short hornet
Yup 16 is significant but you'll find out
It was already significant during the waking titan arg this summer, I'm sure you noticed how I flooded that one skype channel back then
uncut harness
I want to beat the game again and reach "paradise" but first I gotta get some friends up to speed on the game
So a few more months in the euclid wouldnt be bad
lol
serverwide ban
except for this chat
π€
coral nova
I'm banned in the Arg chat
short hornet
Don't be sad. It used to be serverwide except #memes
WAY worse
Banished to dank memes forever
I'd say you should be trashbin only tho
Throw the banned ones to the trash
Seems fitting
bold quiver
guys do i reboot the galaxy or stay in my current
i donβt wanna be alone in another galaxy
versed jackal
Your choice. Eissentam(tranquil) does have some people though.
crisp fern
Maybe I'm off in this, but I sorta feel like Atlas Path & Artemis Path play against each other. To get the best sense of Atlas Path, you need to have learned a bunch of the Atlas language, but with some of the instability of the Artemis Path, it seems like you'd best focus through it then move on to Atlas Path towards its end. Hrrm.
short hornet
What happend to Hilbert
coral nova
Hilbert
bold quiver
yeah same
but whatβs the difference between them
there are raging
and like ancestral
short hornet
In other galaxies yellow systems got a chance for exotic planets right?
bold quiver
i think
short hornet
That. That's a difference
uncut harness
Strange because yellow is the most common
bold quiver
yeah ikr
versed jackal
basically, the big difference is the biome probability changes
bold quiver
oh ok
versed jackal
raging has more extreme weather and sentinel planets
uncut harness
I don't think exotic planets are determined by colour of systems
bold quiver
so raging galaxies have more aggressive systems and more sentinels?
versed jackal
tranquil has more lush, less dead and a chance of exotic biomes in yellow star systems
bold quiver
oh ok
short hornet
@uncut harness what. Ever visited something different than yellow?
versed jackal
ancestral has less lush, more dead, and a chance of exotic biomes in yellow star systems
uncut harness
I think the system colour determines the sentinel aggression and amount of rare resources not really the type
versed jackal
imperfect is the same as euclid
uncut harness
But Idk
versed jackal
there are more changes than those, but they are hard to test and see
bold quiver
blue star systems are the best apparently
uncut harness
^ yeah that's what I heard
short hornet
You told me it's always ket
uncut harness
But I haven't tested it for myself
versed jackal
no
I didnt
that was someone else
basically, most biomes has a probability of 1
in red systems
bold quiver
need better hyperdrives π
versed jackal
exotic got a probability of 3
oh and lush got a probability of 4 in tranquil/lush galaxy
bold quiver
exotics look cool and alien like
bold quiver
yeah
short hornet
No variation in them at all, it seems like
bold quiver
ohh ok
short hornet
And they got a special building type no other planets got
versed jackal
more like dead
bold quiver
i thought there would be like huge structures
short hornet
With its own lore
versed jackal
barren is an actual biome
bold quiver
oh okay
versed jackal
aka desert
bold quiver
is it possible to go there via portal?
you canβt visit other galaxies through portals right?
versed jackal
yeah you can't
versed jackal
you can only go forward 1 step by going through the core, or taking the galaxy type shortcut during the story
bold quiver
yeah
short hornet
bold quiver
lol rip
uncut harness
Rip
signal ibex
Glass planet????
versed jackal
Its one of the 6 exotic/weird planet types
karmic elk
Oh wow a crashed freighter! Is that rare?
versed jackal
Somewhat? But you can get a marker for one relatively easily. And they are not good for much beside lore. The containers are rarely worth opening
karmic elk
yeah they seem hardly worth digging up
signal ibex
What the heck was the name of that last thing I need? I got heart of the sun and made the new star
did I forget to pick something up?
was it "divine resonance" or something along those lines?
bold quiver
the containers are actually shit
thatβs why i get so pissed when i get a freighter instead of a crashed ship
signal ibex
is the galactic hub in the Euclid galaxy?
crisp fern
The Purge is really just a few warps until it progresses, yeah? Wiki's a little flaky on that.
crisp fern
Cheers. Matter of deciding how quickly to go through those now I guess.
crisp fern
do you ever wonder if the problem with the Sentinels isn't so much that they overzealously eliminate anomalies in order to preserve life so much as that they may replicate the universe as a means to accomplish that goal? that is: as they scan existence to verify its integrity they also then record the "standard" result, and in the event of its destruction and/or corruption possibly replicate it to avoid permanent destruction/corruption.
but then this recreates the base problem with this protocol to begin with: how to define the integrity of existence so as to identify anomalous distortions to correct.
crisp fern
Then again, I wonder a bit more about this:
Are the Sentinels operated by a distinct sub-AI running alongside Atlas, and if so, are they meant to restrain it from creation to avoid creating false predictions? Or in other words, fictions, that undermine the original purpose of the Atlas as a predictive simulation?
If the simulated model is capable of producing inaccurate, unreliable "predictions" for no other reason than to satisfy itself, would more or less certainly go against all the work invested in it. Or maybe that's the entire problem...The Sentinel sub-AI is mistaking parallel, distinct predictions as anomalous falsehoods to eliminate when they're each representative of alternate possibilities. The alternate possibilities' collapse into each other may be a partial result of the Sentinel sub-AI reducing the possibilities and itself distorting predictions by consolidating the remaining contradictory possibilities into the same universe, forcing it to continue to over-correct until self-termination.
atomic hill
Inaccuracy is part of the requirement for a good simulation.
Seeing how a change (no matter how small) effects differences. Basically, the butterfly effect.
crisp fern
Yeah. That's why it's unclear to me what it's identifying as too far reaching an inaccuracy to tag as anomalous and worth elimination. That would seem to inadvertently reduce the accuracy of prediction.
uncut harness
something interesting about the haze zone not many people know about is how the game fakes stars near the center of the galaxy
there's a certain point you can reach before you just can't warp anywhere else, even though the game still has routes signaling you to go forward, despite going forward not actually being possible because said closer stars are fake and won't let you point the reticle at them
I tried, but nothing worked. the amount of warpable stars severely decrease as the center approaches, but only when you're right there next to it
and something else, the center has a noise. when you ride up on it and slow down a little, it still plays a sound effect coming from the center, just it's kinda faint and easy to miss because of how small the center actually is (aka you can zoom right past it when trying to reach it)
it's a standard space-y sound effect, nothing special, but interesting
crisp fern
That reminds me: has anyone ever tried to sync up star formation with someone in close proximity watching the Galactic Map as they do so, to see if anything really appears? Pretty sure it's a solid no, but I've not read of anyone doing so before.