So every new update is almost like a step closer to a canonical end of the sim.
#nms-spoilers
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versed jackal
`Say you prefer to be alone
I say that I prefer to be alone. The Traveller nods, claiming that they knew I would say this.
They give me a gift from my future self, in honour of my past.`
`Ask how they know this
I ask how they know this. The Traveller smiles, claiming that they knew I would say this. They do not elaborate. They merely hand me a gift from my future self, in honour of my past.`
`Say it inspires you
I say that it inspires me. The Traveller grins, claiming that they knew I would say this. The give me a gift from my future self, in honour of my past.`
the 3 choices for that conversation
fairly similar
but some are more different
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Funky time-broken stuff going on right there.
Man, this lore goes deeper and deeper.
versed jackal
#19
You... I saw you there, speaking to myself... I've been having such terrible dreams. I should not have sought the Atlas... I should not have listened to their voices. I'm going to kill again. And when I do, I'll find you, blood caked across my exosuit, flesh within my teeth... I can't stop it. I see this future as if it has already happened... as it will happen. Nothing can prevent it. What can I do? How can I live with this knowledge?
Suggest the vision is false
You are kind for saying so, but you are wrong. Take this. I will not be needing it any longer. Not when I am awake.
Propose they prevent it
How? Kill myself? I would just return... something would bring me back. This cannot be prevented. Take this. I will not be needing it any longer. Not when I am awake.
Say the future is not their fault
It is. I will do what I will do, because I am myself. You should leave. I am experiencing such thoughts... such terrors...
#18 is a bit more interesting
uncut harness
I'll have to see this ingame to learn more about the formatting. It's kinda confusing reading it here because of that.
versed jackal
basically, they give 1 or 2 sets of lines, then you get a choice between 3
each of those 3 choices got their own response
sometimes similar, sometimes not
usually they only shows 1 or 2 actual lines of text before you have to switch to the next page
#18:
Don't you understand it? Why we cannot meet, why we find only hollow echoes or corpses? There is only one of us for each iteration - a single Traveller sent out to explore its vast creation. That we are speaking at all, that the boundaries have crumbled as much as they have - it should fill you with terror, not with hope.
Suggest this was meant to happen:
I suggest that this was meant to happen. Even if the Travellers have been alone so far, perhaps we were always meant to find each other. Perhaps this breakdown is for the best. The Traveller hopes that I am right. They give me a gift for the dark times ahead.
Ask about the boundaries:
The boundaries are all that separate concept from concept, possible world from possible world, the Sentinels ever policing their anomalies and breaches... If the boundaries were to fall, everything would descend into everything, an endless bonfire of causation, burning in the abyss. Take this. It will do no good, yet you will need it.
Ask how they know this:
The Traveller tells me that they sought something they call the Great Intelligence, its dark freighter. It told them of our fate, the Traveller's dilemma, our future... They give me a gift for the dark times ahead, wishing me luck.
a lot of these are almost horror like
I'll put the rest in a pastebin tommorow, night
oh and for those that refer to time travel, remember boundary failure #13
`SCENARIO: Multiple contacts have occurred between the Traveller [HOST] and individuals claiming to have arrived from a future location in time.
The phenomena is typically preceded by electromagnetic distortion consistent with a white hole anomaly. No lasting effects seem to occur.
ANALYSIS: Something or someone is attempting to deceive the Traveller [HOST]. There is no such thing as 'time travel'. Older universes might contain elder beings, but such multiversal transportation, even temporary, is impossible.
Even the Atlas is incapable of rewriting its own causality. It is bound to a purpose, as am I.`
atomic hill
No Man's Sky confirmed SCP.
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No man's sky confirmed No man's sky
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Where do you find travellers? On space stations or on trading posts? Am I just unlucky?
versed jackal
anywhere the other npcs spawn
they randomly replace them
can be a bit rare though, but nothing restricts their spawning really in my experience
can see them as soon as you start a new game
real sapphire
how much fusion ignition can sold for? (still have yet to get the recipe tho
versed jackal
check the crafting tree album: https://imgur.com/a/YBqTO
real sapphire
-fainted
i thik i'm quite lazy to farm these
but thanks for sharing
well i'm more into making a proper base than a base solely for farm π
versed jackal
dont need much of a farm for the 18m produts
mostly limited by gas
which you get mostly from trading or atmospheric harvesters
or the products themselves from missions
and you dont need to do that many runs before you got more money than you know what to do with
real sapphire
3gas collectors?
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yup, wont let you place more
real sapphire
ah well does different planet has different types of gases?
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Radon Radioactive and Frozen atmospheres
Sulphurine Hot and Barren atmospheres
Nitrogen Lush and Toxic planets
real sapphire
ah
guess i can collect all gases within my home system
consists of 1 lush, frozen, barren, toxic, radioactive planet each
versed jackal
You get wayy more gas from trading (once they fix the 1.37 bug with negative stock)
fixed in experimental
versed jackal
can easely get a few thousand
and gas is super cheap to buy
5k per stack of 250
that can easely be converted to stuff worth millions
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there are some other funny bugs, gotta keep atmo harvesters away from each other or they can bug out
versed jackal
For a while I was just buying stacks of gas
then combining them
while just standing at a station
easy money without moving
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auto miners away from deposits of other kinds or you get to harvest aluminium from a heridium node
real sapphire
that sounds like an old bug since foundation
i remember i placed heck tons of AMU in a deposit, and they gradually disappears until you reload
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I just placed 3 on what I need
since the atmo harvesters are also capped at 3, that means I get 1.5 fusion igniters for each visit to the system
2 planets + home base
versed jackal
I wonder what causes the bug where the slots gets replaced by broken components, possible save related
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free atlas passes
requires sacrificing 1000 titanium or whatever you have on your container*
gusty berry
not sure not what people will prefer to build
this
or just this
I feel like the bottom one will be more suitable for general purposes
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@real sapphire which games, if I might ask?
versed jackal
so I made a little xml parser which saves a ton of time, any sets of dialogues I should pastebin other than the traveller dialogues?
rough copper
Add to the wiki π
my god these are such a tease at future content
"Even if the Travellers have been alone so far, perhaps we were always meant to find each other. " this line should shut up all the "multiplayer/seeing other people was never supposed to be a feature" people
I feel like they'
re saying the name of a future update in the last one
"Dawn of the Travellers"
Thanks for posting this, I've only found like 3 or 4 travellers in my 60 hours since 1.3 came out
versed jackal
and you need to see almost 60, not counting save scumming, to see all those
since most got 3 different choices
I can really quickly output all the other dialogues aswell
rough copper
That would be nice to see
versed jackal
should probably add some wiki pages for these things
versed jackal
ugh... forgot about that
a bunch of the older dialogues sometimes uses text from others
or switches A and B on the response
so need to manually go and fix it, or parse the puzzle table aswell to create the array, and not a pure id search in the language files
should probably have made it create the array from puzzletable and look up the ids from the start. but eh
ok, fixing this manually more than once is not worth it, but getting late, guess I will write a new parser tommorow or sometime later
atomic hill
oh...
that is something.
though why would emily do something like that?
elizabeth's first live message to us would have had to have been "realtime" then
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@mild condor Elizabeth Leighton said herself that they intentionally released this stuff
Remember that livestream where she said that we solved all the mysteries etc and then she invited us into the Citizen Science Division
That's what she was referring to
All those events in the few first months were a test by the atlas foundation
versed jackal
There, finished rewriting the nms xml parser, now I can output any sets of "puzzles"(most interactions including dialogue) in a readable format
Hmm, should i list them in ID order or the order they are defined in? (the order they are defined in is the same as the order they come in, relevant for ops centers, manufacturing facilities, monoliths and more, but it means the IDs will jump up and down)
versed jackal
Any other text bits I should extract?
rough copper
lol base mission dialogue if it isn't any trouble
These can all be used to update the wiki to be more accurate
Would be nice if you could have these all in one place somehow for reference. Maybe even make a wiki page that doens't link anywhere else just to store these
versed jackal
too bad the story dialogue doesn't follow an easy format
while the others just add a number to the end, the story missions got stuff like ?U3_CORE_ACT1_PART6_ALIEN_A
rough copper
Haha yeah I saw one of those strings as a dialogue option when 1.3 first came out. oops
versed jackal
the orginal base mission dialogues are still in the files.. just not called anymore
rough copper
They need to cleanup their files lol. The E3 demo stuff is still in there too
Then again, if they kept everything squeeky clean there would be nothing fun to find dataming
versed jackal
Slightly annoying that they mix harvesters and factories
like they just switched a variable for which building it appears in without changing any names
technically correct, but missing 6 puzzles that are under the factory id
that also appears at operation centers
heh a few typos in some places π
rough copper
hmm so most categories for dialogue have 20 options then?
versed jackal
nah, some have 30
rough copper
Oh okay
I do hope they continue expanding on them. I like the stuff the new writer has been doing, hope he stays on for the long haul
uncut harness
any of you guys see this on the atlas forum?
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Omfg
sage bluff
When will the passes be shipped out
versed jackal
Whoever posted the list of "unused" galaxy type names missed a lot of information, it is just alternate names for the 4 basic types:
Lush:
A tranquil galaxy
An inspiring galaxy
A serene galaxy
A halcyon galaxy
Abandoned/Empty:
An ancestral galaxy
A silent galaxy
An exhausted galaxy
A frozen galaxy
Vicious/Harsh:
A raging galaxy
A ruthless galaxy
A relentless galaxy
A burning galaxy
Balanced/Normal:
An imperfect galaxy
A parallel galaxy
An improved galaxy
A rebuilt galaxy
rough copper
That's me lol
That kinda sucks
I mean come on... Improved and imperfecting being analogues for eachother? that makes no sense lol
versed jackal
heh yeah, but I guess its just names for a balanced galaxy, perfect not being balanced
rough copper
Any evidence that they can actually appear in the game in it's current form? or more placeholder?
versed jackal
not sure, haven't done the artemis mission in a non-default galaxy yet
btw, the galaxy switch is defined in the rewardtable π
just called Lush, Abandoned, Vicious and Balanced there, the lang files uses Lush, Empty, Harsh and Norm
rough copper
Do they refer to elsewhere? like for example, any indication where the parameters are other than that biomeinfoperstartype file?
versed jackal
nope, haven't found it
I suspect it is used internally in the exe, maybe using a variable defined in globals
found extreme weather chance in the weather definitions though, but no modifiers defined there
I really need to do a proper biome extreme chance log
and actually play the game π
versed jackal
hmm, are dead planets always extreme/red text?
I dont remember
just clearweather got an extreme chance of 1
not sure if that means always extreme or never extreme
or if it is even used at all
well, no red text on an exotic planet atleast
rough copper
dead as in the ones with no special resource, plants, animals, and buildings? or do you mean the desert one with cacti?
versed jackal
dead as in no atmosphere
would have said barren if I meant the desert one
(but for some stupid reason dead planets can get the name barren...)
rough copper
Haha yeah that's why I had to ask, the game is even confused about it
But to answer your question, I don't think I've ever seen an extreme dead planet
Some of them can drain your life support pretty quickly, but to be honest I barely ever go to those planets anymore since they've nerfed the amount of thamium they provide
versed jackal
Probably just disabled extreme on them
hmm, need to check for extreme sentinels aswell
Would probably help to compare 1.37 and experimental
as they reduced the chance of sentinel extreme for hardmode
getting that variable would be nice
went to a vicious galaxy, first dead planet I went to had extreme sentinels
hmm
went to a snow planet, also extreme sentinels
rad, extreme weather but normal sentinels
not going to bother doing a massive log tonight
solid nebula
proper eagle
Does the Artemis quest restart after you choose one of the 4 galaxies? Iβve been hopping around hunting for atlas stations and I didnβt get the call from Artemis
proper eagle
Not a restart after all huh
So the different names for the galaxies why are they there
proper eagle
I think the same names showed up for everyone
versed jackal
4 different types of galaxies
proper eagle
I got ancient/ruthless/tranquil like many other people
versed jackal
regular, more extreme, more lush, and more dead
yeah thats the first ones that appear
ancient = more dead, ruthless = more extreme, tranquil = more lush, imperfect = normal
proper eagle
Can you trigger the selection again after going to the center on the new galaxy?
versed jackal
nope
its a 1 time shortcut
if you want to change galaxies later you need to go through them 1 at a time through the center
proper eagle
Then why would be other qualifiers if they donβt show up
versed jackal
there are 257 or so galaxies, each of them one of the 4 types
the choice between 4 sends you to galaxy 2, 3 7 or 10
proper eagle
Yes and you see the qualifiers once when you get to choose somewhere to go
Do you get to see qualifiers on galaxies after that? Or they are just therennot being used
versed jackal
you can sort of see it by logging how much you see the various stats
it is also the same for all players
tranquil/lush galaxies has double the lush chance and a quarter dead chance, compared to normal
ancient/abandoned galaxies got double dead chance and half lush chance
not sure on the number for raging/vicious, but should have more extreme weather and high security planets
lush and abandoned can also get exotic planets in yellow star systems, while vicious and normal/balanced can't get exotic planets in yellow star systems
proper eagle
Sucks you donβt get to choose where to go after the first galaxy hop. Should pop up again when you reach the center
versed jackal
atleast it is not random, it just send you to the next one in order
proper eagle
Same galaxy type or the next in the list?
versed jackal
next in the list of 257 or so
so 1-2-3-4 etc
haven't done a proper log of which galaxies are which type yet
proper eagle
Aight I got it then
worthy flicker
alright I need a bit of help
no idea if this is a bug or me being stupid
I'mn doing the verys start of the game
and i've got into space and have to investigate the distress signal
I found a crashed freighter
but the objective isn't triggering
there's also nothing I can interact with
wanton path
have you tried the comms sphere?
like the one you have at your crash site at the beginning
wanton path
yes
worthy flicker
there's no option to interact it and it's part of the freighter scan wise
wanton path
strange
worthy flicker
rip that playthrough then
versed jackal
have you found a crashed freighter before?
worthy flicker
no
versed jackal
hmm,
because I would try finding another crashed freighter and interacting with that if the one the mission pointed to didn't work
worthy flicker
I started a new playthrough to see if it's fucked again
ah
oh well I'll try that next time
wanton path
are you playing on linux?
worthy flicker
nope
wanton path
some windows are very... cheap 
worthy flicker
some wall textures are also missing
such as the offices in space stations
and the abandoned buildings
worthy flicker
yeah I just got to another freighter in a new playthrough
sphere isnt interactable
versed jackal
I assume mission is selected?
worthy flicker
yes
it seems the "distress signal" tag is a bit off fro mthe sphere
since I'm looking at a video of what it's meanbt to be
so yeah the game's fucked
rip
any decent way of finding additional freighters?
versed jackal
transmitter towers got like a 50?/50? chance of crashed freighter vs crashed ship
worthy flicker
how do I get them?
late horizon
Yes but all those give is nanites and credits.
You don't actually get the frieghter.
versed jackal
he is talking about crashed freighter for story mission
late horizon
Unless I've been missing something...
worthy flicker
so ye how2tower
versed jackal
explore/ random chance from ship scan / ask for direction
late horizon
Fly around a lot they aren't hard to miss
late horizon
Ah the missions come from the buildings with a giant tower or antena...
Also not terribly hard to miss once you know what you are looking for.
worthy flicker
ye
versed jackal
or a random marker from a scan?
worthy flicker
story one
versed jackal
yeah just checking π
worthy flicker
is it a known bug?
versed jackal
nah, just the marker from the random scan doesn't go away that easily sometimes
but if you can't interact with the thing in the center then it doesn't matter
worthy flicker
well I founda command center that doesn't open it's door
so rip guess we aint expxloring that
wanton path
you need to blast the door
worthy flicker
I wonder if it's a nms issue or a wine one
atomic hill
It's usually pretty safe to blame Wine.
Though doors not opening are game level, not os abstraction (unless HG did some weird things)
worthy flicker
the issue is interesting though
cause everything else works fine
just that one paticular mission
atomic hill
Probably a game bug then.
Wine bugs tend to be far more reaching than just a single quest.
worthy flicker
That's what I'm thinking
basically the map tag was offset from the freighter
and the objective couldn't be interacted with
versed jackal
the tag/marker is often not pointing at the interactable, though not being able to interact with the orb thingy is weird
worthy flicker
the video I saw had it right over the orb
I tried to interact with the air near the floating marker
posted in #nms-photomode-gallery what it was
mystic igloo
Without spoiling me too much, I'm mostly done with the Atlas quest (The Purge), and I warped several time and noticed a glyph with a number (ie: 5/16). I'm not sure, but is it incrementing or only giving me a hint of which glyph is available in the system I'm in?
versed jackal
it just counts the amount of warps you have done on the purge quest(which is artemis not atlas)
once you get to 16 the story progresses, though some stuff happens while it is counting up
mystic igloo
Thanks! I was afraid it would mean the end of the universe (countdown to 16) π―
abstract breach
i'm a 30 second grenade .... 29 .... 28 ....27 .... 26 ..................
uncut harness
The heart of the sun is the end game from creating all the atlas seeds, right? Then I can use that to create the remembrance?
wanton path
so... each galaxy is a different simulation?
different iteration?
is the galaxy core a gate to a parent simulation? (according to the theory of universes simlautions inside simulations... like the Anomaly ancient machine where Artemis is trapped)
versed jackal
maybe its a gateway to deeper level, with a different flow of time
wanton path
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BWWWWAAAAAAAAM
versed jackal
Exported the monolith text + rewards:
https://pastebin.com/SFrRjxpj
https://pastebin.com/4haQ2WyB
https://pastebin.com/FWzJdT6R
pseudo frost
nice
versed jackal
My parser can output any sets of puzzles now with all the text + rewards
not missions though because the naming is all over the place, would have to check which mission it links to and do a search for it or something
but will make it very quick to update sheets like the operation center one or similar
can just replace some of the newlines with tabs for sheet friendly export
lost crest
What is the correct order of missions by intended/implied design? I noticed Nada indicates you should finish Atlas before finishing The Purge. However I noticed most people say do The Purge before completing the Atlas line.
versed jackal
The Atlas line is sort of pre-artemis and also sort of not, they are independent. and you don't get any significant rewards for completing the atlas path outside some markers
lost crest
Yeah that's what I mean. I know they're mutually exclusive and don't impact each other. That Atlas path has been around since near release. Is it just that Purge let's you pick a galaxy that will allow for a more desired experience? (As in why it seems people say do the Purge before Atlas)
versed jackal
they are not even exclusive, they are just completely independent
you can just continue where you left off in a new galaxy, and the atlas path doesn't switch galaxies
lost crest
I see.
uncut harness
@Brolo#6287 about what you said earlier, a galaxy is NOT another simulation/iteration
Wtf
Why can't i edit my comment
astral karma
versed jackal
Haven't seen it, but its not new in the files for the latest few versions
uncut harness
Weird
uncut harness
All I want for 1.4 is maybe Player models and an animal overhaul
πͺ
@versed jackal @mild condor I would like to know the path too
heady crane
this artemis questline is a pain. Fly to this planet, now fly to this one, now fly to this one... ...aargh.
uncut harness
might write a short story or something based on NMS. it's probably gonna end up like Horton Hears a Who but on steroids
could be interesting.
nova rose
I have got a question: Is it possible to finish the whole atlas questline before getting a base for the artemis one? because I don't wanna go stationairy until I finished hunting those atlas thingys if possible.
versed jackal
yeah you can finish the atlas questline at any time
its almost identical to what it was at launch
just switched atlas stones for atlas seeds
you could always just move to a new base at any time anyway, and you can teleport to your base from any station so it doesn't leave you stationary
wanton path
so, what's the point of the new weird planets?
versed jackal
lore
wanton path
hex planets -> simulation failure?
versed jackal
or are you talking about the bugfix to the planet names?
wanton path
about lore
versed jackal
well, they are among the glitches, just like being able to see travellers
wanton path
the glitches are because Atlas is dying?
versed jackal
something like that
also null did something if I remember right a long time ago
dont remember the exact text from the artemis missions, been a few weeks
wanton path
yeah, too much info, I can't remember either
will be 1.4 expansion about what's next after Atlas death?
Another iteration?
About the creator?
versed jackal
well, from the traveler dialogues with the "visions" we would get more multiplayer as the "walls" break down more
uncut harness
We also don't know who said the whole "JOIN OUR CRUSADE" text.
glass leaf
Travellers
uncut harness
That makes zero sense.
They said they come for worlds in a way that purposely sounded aggressive.
glass leaf
I dont know actually
uncut harness
"Controlling Information
Since beyond time we have consumed immense swaths of Knowledge and obtained untold power. We will come for your world as we have many others.
Join Our Crusade"
Since beyond time?
glass leaf
Before the current loop?
uncut harness
Could be the beings on top of our sim, the one simulating No Man's Sky.
I mean, you know.
The "CRUSADE" Beings >> Waking Titan/ARG-verse world that simulates NMS >> No Man's Sky Sim
So perhaps we could be seeing another layer of sims, though this time coming from on top of us.
Actually, what does this mean? This is confusing.
sweet idol
Going on from this we never actually got any more information about that
I want to see more about that
white shale
can anyone give me the lowdown on the new lore?
im too lazy to play the game myself and find out
wanton path
basically: 
wanton path
Are the three main characters in NMS, a depiction of players nature?
Apollo: Only want's money: Players whom are obsessed with cash and farming
Artemis: The explorers
Null: Those who just want to get to the center, galaxy through galaxy
Whereas the three main races represents the three main branch of human nature: Scientists, Military and Business
And Nada & Polo: faith versus vs empiricism
cursive ginkgo
soo i refused the reset of the universe when prompted by the atlas but i wanna go back and reset it after all
how do?
versed jackal
May be able to if you go back to the exact same station, otherwise you have to do it the slow way by advancing 1 galaxy at a time through the center
untold owl
I almost pooped my pants thinking i needed all the seeds on me at the last atlas interface
Does creating a star actually create a star? Seems unlikely
untold owl
Figured
wanton path
Is this concept art still a thing? https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0580/0965/products/NMS-Poster-Search_And_Destroy-Store-iam8bit_44e79275-343f-4acc-81a5-d1063bd8cd6e.png?v=1457015523
poor Atlas π¦
real sapphire
that looks like atlas is getting destroyed and lifeforms trying to save it
i believe it could be part of a story next time
cuz 16 minutes
versed jackal
well, there was an atlas interface that got destroyed in the lore
real sapphire
but now the time is just, frozen
versed jackal
didnt go so well though
versed jackal
yeah, the first spawn attacked one I believe, wiped out all the nearby systems
maybe its among the stuff i pastebinned
versed jackal
huh, there are strings refering to using a holo-terminus to revisit the galaxy choice
dont think I have seen those ingame
couldn't find the string referencing the system destruction yet though
maybe another wording
versed jackal
Extracted the crashed freighter logs: https://pastebin.com/cBcgn51Y
Any more non-mission lore im missing?
loud pasture
Not much of a big deal, but currently doing the new base terminal missions to relearn everything. Taking out the Korvax core for science was pretty entertaining for me.
cursive ginkgo
ok guys
so i screwed up really bad on the storyline
i told the atlas i refused to reset the universe, and then it basically told me i could come back if i changed my mind, but i have no idea how to get back to there
cursive ginkgo
i traveled all the way back to the last portal in the story that led me to the atlas but it's acting just like any other portal. how do i get back to the atlas?
do i just keep jumping to the core like everyone else? is that literally the only way?
anyone?
versed jackal
If you are still around, yeah thats the only way, there are references to being able to redo it in the language files, but have seen no way to do it ingame, either bugged or just not finished yet
versed jackal
Added Boundary failure, Abandoned building, Crashed Freighter and Crashed ships to the extracted logs, also updated the old ones with the rewards: https://pastebin.com/u/Ket-
glass leaf
I thought that said "Kev's" then, had me wondering if it was my stories I shared lmao
versed jackal
heh
Btw, 1.3 added another 2 abandoned building stories which are not on the wiki atm
And it refers right back to what is told in the first one
its another traveller reading the abandoned logs
Omg, there is a bunch of holohub related dialogue
can you even get to a holo hub outside the story?
guess it is just filler between the story missions if you go there early
bunch of strings in the language files related to revisiting the atlas interface or holo terminus to reset/revist your galaxy choice
but not used
glass leaf
Stragne
versed jackal
btw, the order of the learned words is anything but random, just like almost everything else in the game
same order as listed in the files
glass leaf
Yep
red mica
I can't find the remembrance recipe despite receiving it after ditching Euclid. :(
red mica
:\
Thx
versed jackal
Counts as a shield upgrade(but only gives 0, helps a tiny bit with adjacency bonuses though)
short hornet
Without saying anything more spoily, at what % of the story am I if I need to make the mindarc?
versed jackal
hmm, gimme a moment to check, but somewhere around half?
short hornet
For me it's probably 5% since making the mindarc will take me 3 more (full) updates
I keep getting distracted and do other things than housing missions xD
short hornet
Alright
red mica
If I birth a new star will I be teleported to it? Loose my base and all.
red mica
So many black holes! Hocigxihohcjcpjpkv too bad I'm already 5k ly away from center heh.
fierce bough
"My scanner tells me that the creature is gravely ill. It will die, no matter what intervention occurs."
So do I euthanize it?
Or is feedin it gonna fix it
crude chasm
So if I reset the simulation at the end of the purge, will I get to eistenam?
Easily?
I'm at the choice right now and I don't know what to do
fast spoke
oof
kindred prawn
ouch
versed jackal
Just wondering, why are several people using he for artemis? artemis is a female name, especially if you take it together with apollo as they are both from greek mythology
real sapphire
a desert planet wtih climate: Hazardous Temperature Extremes
and its highlighted in red
red mica
Could be identified as male.
The team making it have people from minority groups. One of them is trans I believe.
fast spoke
Im pretty sure they say she is a she in game
red mica
Hmm I never paid attention.
versed jackal
Think they never use genders at all ingame
so, just for the hell of it
I searched through the language files
he is used 2 times in the entire game, both are death quotes
she is never used
and male and female only exists as stats for random creatures
red mica
:thumbsup:
fierce bough
Atlas seed: This thing will literally end all life if you stare at it wrong
Price: 1,000 U
ok
uncut harness
wait whoa
about earlier
how is the mind arc halfway through the story
what happened to 30 hours of story
ive started a new save after 1.3 and i have like 20 hours on it
of which probably only three is real story stuff
and im at the mind arc already
gray cloud
@crude chasm only if you chose a Tranquil world after the reset, Ancient takes you to budu which is mostly dead planets, the red one takes you to more extreme planets, and the imperfect one just takes you to the 2nd galaxy
buoyant sparrow
Wanted to post this in the SS section to ask what kind of planet is this, but for obvious reasons, it would be a spoiler. https://i.imgur.com/wQcri1C.jpg
Though, now that I look back at the SS itself, I got quite lucky and can see that is a "Local Minerals" type of planet, no?
short hornet
For me at that point it also said "online service not available"
It says that sometimes at random moments too but I wonder if here it was intended
versed jackal
So I decided to actually read the traveller grave logs properly... damn
it explains quite a bit that people might have missed with the sentinels
so easy to skip them thinking they are not important lore
explains a bit on the sentinel directive and the world of glass
waiiit... there is references to another race other than the 3 that got families in the crashed freighter logs
since they got families, then its likely not travelers, what
humans? something else?
traveller after all? or not?
ok, crashed freighter logs are weird
pretty much never confirm the race of the writer, and other races are always referred to as if they were not the same as the writer
and several of the logs looks like they are by the same person/group
ok, it explicitly uses the word HUMAN
so, most of the crashed freighter logs tell a whole story, and its about humans
For those that haven't read it: https://pastebin.com/cBcgn51Y
just like some of the abandoned building stories and the traveller graves, its one connected story over multiple logs
buoyant sparrow
Damn son, the base storylines all turn kinda dark by the end...
strong minnow
... a way to save Artemis. π¦ She was my waifu.
lofty cove
that's the point tho
strong minnow
The Mind-Arc doesn't save her.
lofty cove
the point is that you can't save them
strong minnow
I know. And it makes me have a sad!
I have a hard time not being able to save cute things.
fast spoke
Man,I love how meta Nms has gotten tbh
Like,It was pretty meta before,but all of this,with WT and the 1.3 lore
its ssoo fucking good
lofty cove
atomic hill
yes
quiet horizon
I thought Artemis was a guy
versed jackal
why?
quiet horizon
Isn't Artemis a male name?
versed jackal
nope
If you take it together with apollo it refers to the greek mythology, where artemis is a goddess
anyway, gender is never specificed anywhere in the game, if anything everything is refered to as it
quiet horizon
Oh
strong minnow
Her analogue in Roman mythology is Diana.
versed jackal
Hmm, wonder if we will ever see the "humans" in the crashed freighter logs, maybe when we get more lore related to the world of glass
@uncut harness each of the orbs you pick corresponds to 1 specific galaxy type, and you will change galaxy to the next one of that type
uncut harness
so I can technically change to ANY galaxy?
or is it by sequence? eg if I chose Raging will it take me to Calypso?
uncut harness
oh found a video
versed jackal
going to the center puts you to the next one
picking an orb puts you to the next one matching the type
picking raging for example will put you at calypso if you are in euclid or hilbert, or Ogtialabi if you are in calypso or one of the later ones that are before Ogtialabi
uncut harness
oh so if chose Imperfect from Euclid I will end up in Hilbert?
versed jackal
yes
uncut harness
can it be done only once?
versed jackal
yeah
one time mission
there are references to being able to redo it in the language files, but it was either removed before 1.3 release, or planned for later
uncut harness
so I'd rather go to the center and finish the purge to go from Hilbert to Hesperius for imperfect
versed jackal
you can do that yes, if that is where you want to go
uncut harness
I want to go to Elkupalos
I guess I'd rather wait for the last part of the mission for Eltiensleen > Elkupalos
versed jackal
just pick tranquil and go to Eissentam, then go to the center there to go to Elkupalos
wanton path
Heart of the Sun should let us travel to another galaxy from the center
buoyant sparrow
Couldn't humans just be the Korvax? I remember there being hints of they being flesh in the past, no?
versed jackal
read the logs, they are communicating with the other races
and they also talk about the differences in family between them and the other races
talking about only vy'keen having a similar family structure
also the story in the logs is happening at around the same time as hirk and nal
uncut harness
@buoyant sparrow that doesn't mean that humans were korvax once
It's more the other way around
buoyant sparrow
Korvax end up human?
uncut harness
And what im thinking is that the korvax are like the traveller's. Like, one race but they aren't related to one another
One follower is a cat while the other is a robot
Korvaxs are just humanoid casings with (something like) a soul inside
lofty cove
i don't think any race is "human" because that doesn't really fit in
they're all made up races
buoyant sparrow
but then you have those human references in the freighter logs
lofty cove
granted i haven't read those, but there's not phsyical human prescense anywhere in the game we can currently access, right?
buoyant sparrow
Aside from those references, no, I don't think so.
Meaning, it's just a possibility. Nothing for sure.
versed jackal
Its really odd how different some of the old lore is from the 1.3 lore, even when talking about some of the same events
then again, some of the new lore is stuff from alternate universes, or something close to it
uncut harness
Okay
This is ATLAS RISES related
Though apparently that channel is only for noobs
I need help
Atlas asked me to reset. I said no.
I'm currently β530,000lty from center. Been using black holes to move 2-8,000 closer with each leap, as opposed to my starships max warps of 950ish
Still, this will take forever
It's long been my goal to visit the HUB, after, after securing the last of the plot lines
Should I go back to the Atlas to reset, or fly to the center now?
If Atlas reset, how do I return to it?
If center, how can I travel more efficiently?
My freighter has a basic wasp drive. Could seek out upgrades. My ship is maxed out hyperdrive upgrade wise, but I could seek out a new member to my fleet, buy my first second ship. Etc
What advise ye?
loud pasture
Some people just use a junker ship to go through black holes and keep warping to the center
No need for repairs or anything. That's what I see the most common of
loud pasture
I also wanted to mention the screenshot with the terminal I posted. It mentioned about the sentinals warping through it and wiping everything in its path
versed jackal
don't think it mentions using that type of building specifically
loud pasture
Looks perfect to act like a portal. I also reached the part of the story with .null and Apollo where the sentinals were part of the Atlas and then broke off and actually wiped everything from existance except Polo and Nada. Now I have to talk to the Vy'keen about it. Should I look forward to something happening with sentinals yet or nah?
versed jackal
bunch of stuff in the various lore sources, though not much in the actual gameplay
versed jackal
most of the sources of lore each tell a story through a series of logs
20 logs for the boundary failures for instance(the terminals you found)
little glen
Hey all. Iβm trying to complete a merchant guild side quest that has be deliver an item to another galaxy, when I get to the designated area the item wonβt deliver and keeps flashing to go to another area. Is that a big?
Bug*
versed jackal
it was a bug in earlier versions, are you playing in 1.38?
though it was fixed
and which rank mission is it, rank 0 or rank 6?
and do you have multiple missions atm or just that one
solid plover
what do i need once i get all the glyphs?
solid plover
ok how do i find a portal? i need to find a monolith first?
versed jackal
thats the best way
signal booster can always mark a monolith
and monoliths can mark a portal if you got the race specific item to give(common reward from monolith puzzles)
solid plover
ok thanks.
now i just need to find some korvax casings
i'm stuck on the mind arc quest again so i might as well do something
i go to the holoterminus it directed me to and i can't do anything. i can only access previous calls
versed jackal
Is the mission selected and you got a mind arc in your inventory?
(assuming you already got to the point where you have already made it)
solid plover
so it directed me to one holoterminus. after i was there it somehow added another marker
i had to go to that one
and it furthered the quest
strange ember
Sorted! Finished the Artemis questline, chose tranquil. Sold everything i had expect for 500 iron/plut/zinc. Decided to "start" again fresh, cept for the ship, units and those 3 items!
cursive ginkgo
Man I am so sad that I canβt go back to the atlas after choosing to refuse the atlas, except for the natural way(100+ jumps π¦ ) to continue the storyline. I think I might just wait until HG makes a way to get back faster
No way Iβll find a glyph except for if I had the travelers, which Iβll never have, and no way to use portals without glyphs... so I guess Iβm done playing for now. was a good run.
versed jackal
Why would you never have a traveller? they are not that rare, and just 1 of them and you can get close to the center
cursive ginkgo
@versed jackal is this true? Iβve never seen one. I thought you needed to restart the universe to find one
versed jackal
nope, they can spawn as early as the first planet you start on
cursive ginkgo
wtf
versed jackal
they got a chance of replacing any other npc
cursive ginkgo
I guess my luck is just shit?
versed jackal
well, almost any, not plot npcs obviously
lofty cove
how many jumps have you made? / systems visited
cursive ginkgo
uhhh lemme see. Iβve made a lot
versed jackal
trading posts are a good place to visit
cursive ginkgo
ahh good to know, because i have an economy scanner
main fox
Itβs pretty awesome when they spawn on space stations. Occasionally youβll find them on a freighter crew
atomic hill
Ow... My poor base scientist π
glass leaf
He's dead Kaz
quiet horizon
What happened to your base scientist?
glass leaf
he ate my stash of geknip
quiet horizon
Silly scientist
quiet horizon
damn it, kev, stop making scientists OD
glass leaf
it... it was a mistake?
quiet horizon
Understandable, I amsorry to accuse you of a crime you didn't commit
glass leaf
I slipped and shoved them down his throat?
quiet horizon
That has happened to me on one too many occasions
quiet horizon
Classification A drugs
uncut harness
Oh
Gek nip
Or nip nip
Or that weird ass energy drink thing that the vykeen have
quiet horizon
A little bit of everything
real sapphire
native frost
@real sapphire Crazy! That was the old capital of the Galactic Hub
real sapphire
yep
native frost
2nd time through the story, decided to make a different choice. Let Artemis die instead of put him in the simulation. Felt like a better thing to do imo.
rough copper
Some guy on the forums is saying that factions/alien races don't fight eachother because it's not supposed to happen until the first player "beats the game", I have tagged them as "insane NMS theories" months ago, so it doesn't surprise me...
can't believe I just called reddit "the forums"
crude chasm
So I've done everything pretty much. Now what?
I have no internet so I have no other game to turn to. So what should I do in this
versed jackal
Explore more? make a new permadeath save?
I spent my time researching and testing stuff, but I like modding so, its not for all
crude chasm
I'm going to try to find an S class experimental to top my current one
native frost
Woop back on 16/16
time to get this storyline over with
and probably make my move to Eissentam
lofty cove
π±
native frost
Not sure whether to do Eissentam, or whichever the super war-y galaxy is
Budullangr?
versed jackal
Calypso. But think its just more extreme planets
native frost
Oh damn
versed jackal
Budullangr is abandoned. Just lots of dead planets and few lush
native frost
Probably gonna move to Eissentam then
God I really fucking love this mission
Oh hey I forgot about this part
Where you just casually end up in space for a bit
lofty cove
"yeah no problem i'll just sleep here"
native frost
Oooh a new reception of Judgement
I feel much better about my story choices this time
just fell through the space anomaly
if it makes you feel better, there's nothing behind the other door.
lofty cove
yet
native frost
true
native frost
Alrighty 16/16
time to purge, to Eissentam with me
shit
@lofty cove
which colour is eissentam?
Red, Green, Dark Blue or Light Blue?
lofty cove
orange
lofty cove
???
strange ember
green i believe
native frost
If I choose one does it take me or let me learn more about it?
lofty cove
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
strange ember
ye
lofty cove
yeah
lofty cove
π
lofty cove
YEP
native frost
please?
versed jackal
save and then reload it
π
it doesn't save that stuff is broken from switching galaxies
versed jackal
aw
at least you can repair your mining tool right?
if you dont have any resources to repair you need to melee stuff until you do
native frost
oh yeah luckily I had to farm like 500 thamium
so I had like 5k iron
conveniently nothing in my tech slots broke, weirld enough
quiet horizon
Where is the nearest space bar?
Apollo told me we could get a drink
But there are NO SPACE BARS
lofty cove
I have a space bar on my keyboard if that's what you mean
quiet horizon
Can you get a drink at your space bar?
lofty cove
i can spill one
quiet horizon
That might do
uncut harness
Is there the possibility of surviving First Spawn?
versed jackal
Remember there being hints of it
though I can't remember exactly which piece of lore I read it in
uncut harness
It said the Korvax sacrificed themselves on the Gek spawning pools
They changed Gek
But what about the existing Gek π€
loud pasture
Not sure
Maybe in future updates
There's no way you'd be able to encounter one right now in game, right?
uncut harness
Don't think so, there's only the friendly ones that are interested in trading and farting
versed jackal
And pirates π
uncut harness
Insurance sellers
manic thunder
And synthetic gek
wanton path
Everytime I see this when opening discord... foil hat deployed!!!
real sapphire
eh just asking, when you activated a portal and used it, whoever trying to teleport to the portal you activated, it will show location corrupted?
short hornet
No?
versed jackal
If it shows location corrupted when setting a target for the portal, it means it could not establish a portal to the actual location of the glyph coordinates, either because its invalid, or bugged, usually it will try to put it in a nearby region, but not always
real sapphire
i see..
cuz a redditor posed in my base picture saying that he entered the coord and got brought to a nearby planet instead
versed jackal
the right system or?
and was it just the wrong planet or actual location corrupted
real sapphire
wrong planet i guess
versed jackal
did you post glyph coordinates or signal booster coordinates
real sapphire
either its bugged or he entered one of the glyphs wrong
glyph coord
address i mean
versed jackal
If it wasn't the right planet then, it either bugged so it corrupted, or was in the wrong galaxy
last planet in a system is always corrupted, and sometimes others are too
versed jackal
not 100% sure the random corrupted ones count for all players though, think I remember seeing some work for some players and not for others
uncut harness
so tip for everyone
when you buy a better freighter
do not go into your old one
unless you restart
versed jackal
oh what happens?
versed jackal
and there goes your green
uncut harness
oh im a familiar? who's my witch
actually
I think it's possible to jump out of your old freighter into a planet? or endless space?
π€
versed jackal
how? the doors are usually closed, and at least the station blocks you from going past a certain point, haven't tried a freighter
also out of planet gravity is weird, I tried π¦
versed jackal
O_o, its a bit like how abandoned ships become somtimes, really weird collisions
uncut harness
Any tips on finding tier 3 blueprints?
lofty cove
luck
versed jackal
Visit a lot of space stations
and check the race that has the type of blueprints you are looking for
assuming by tier 3 blueprints you mean theta
Also Flora, Fauna, jetpack and Aeration Membrane Theta are obtainable from rank 7-8 missions
Jetpack and warp reactor theta are also obtainable from polo
but its just those 3 sources of theta modules as far as I know, all other blueprint sources just gives sigma and some tau stuff
uncut harness
Manufacturing facilities and Operation Centers don't give those, right?
versed jackal
they just got sigma stuff
and stamina and boltcaster firerate tau
same with nada and crashed ships
used to be a bigger loot table in earlier versions, but they changed that
probably when they added the nanite vendors
and replaced a lot of the blueprint sources with nanite instead
ivory swan
Does anyone here think Apollo is totally awesome?
smoky leaf
So I was reading the rogue data lore and I just got done reading it all and it talks about how after 16 minutes the atlas will be approached by figure and it will no longer be alone and I sincerely hope that the figure is Sean
lofty cove
what if it's us
smoky leaf
That would be weird but like... i guess that would kind of make sense
lone cedar
Do you guys think Atlas Rises is before or After Emily's Plan was put into play?
she said that she already knows everything that's going to happen
I kind of think that this is setup for the Atlas doing some wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff to manipulate us to help stop the Atlas from breaking down
smoky leaf
Wait... what's Emily's plan?
glass leaf
atlas rises is emily rn
smoky leaf
Tf is Emily?
lone cedar
Emily is the Atlas presumably
she's the main character from the ARG
at the end of the ARG she said "I'm going to go away for a while, but remember I know everything that's going to happen"
to me based off what we see int he story of AR I think this is actually a "dream" she's giving us to gather sympathy for how the machine is breaking down
I think future patches might focus on the Atlas finding a way to repair itself rather than being a dying gasp OR that we'll change the source of the start of the simulation in the real world
to change what is happening in the game itself
Clearly the plot has to make sense in the context of the game in a vacuum, so I could see it being more like the Atlas is going to initiate some plan to that manipulates the Travellers into helping it survive
uncut harness
Wait, this game had a ARG?
wanton path
the ARG has been the best thing happened to the game
uncut harness
yes
uncut harness
@mild condor yeah
bronze folio
I wonder if the theme in the plotline of ending universes has any relation to the game state, or if it just references the regeneration after each update. Or something more sinister...
Perhaps it's just for plot too
lofty cove
it's definitely meta commentary
i don't think the current story could exist the way it is if it wasn't for people playing it before it came out
bronze folio
Perhaps as the generation gets better with each update, that will work into the plot too, with us helping the Atlas become more powerful and able to simulate more, or the opposite, where it becomes more powerful and we have to fight or reason with it before it gets out of hand
lofty cove
well...
glass leaf
I want to ram my -kzzzt- into it
quiet horizon
please don't -kzzzt- the atlas
lofty cove
-kzzzzzzzzzzzzzt-
nocturne arch
uncut harness
Theta upgrades are so rare π₯
uncut harness
I want to reach Ekupalos
Find a system that allows me to output 3 Igniters on visit
Explore the entire sector and wait for the next update
loud pasture
Got back to back warp theta for ships from Polo the past two days
uncut harness
Yeah that's the last one
Few other theta things from missions
But most of them are from nanites traders
And I'm kind of tired of checking systems and not finding a single theta on the list
real sapphire
Soem interesting lore from boundary failure
loud pasture
Imagine reaching the end eh?
real sapphire
i really hope we can use the portal to travel to each species' homeworld, be it in a form of time travel or a specific coordinate
or some stargate, and yes, i agree it will be damn cool
we'll see what HG have in their sleeve for next patch, since they are in a post-update silence
yep i agree
why will there always be pirate attack whenever i enter my home system... dammit (Conflict Level: high btw)
versed jackal
its conflict level high, what did you except, and use the base teleport to get home
assuming you got one yes
would still need it at the existing places
real sapphire
heh i used to just warping back to my home if i'm nearby
anyway, lets bring to #no-mans-sky
versed jackal
wonder if we will get more stories made up of several logs in the next update, like the abandoned building, traveller grave, boundary failure and crashed freighter stories
they are nice even if they don't really match the actual gameplay
versed jackal
?
uncut harness
i found a solar system
full of peoples doscoveries
atleast 3
what do i do
do i know if its that place
where everyone is trying ti get to?
versed jackal
there are discoveries by other people all over the galaxies
yeah, some of them also somewhat contradicts each other, or atleast seem to not talk about something that is happening in one of the others
versed jackal
well the galaxy is huge
versed jackal
It could have been someone shared the coordinates to something nice to find
or someone made bases close together
versed jackal
The crashed freighter lore is a bit weird in how the timelines goes with the rest of the lore
real sapphire
my home moon is still a lonely place, no one has ever visited my base, but problem is the 40 minutes drive from the portal to my base
versed jackal
doesnt really match, and it got an extra race that doesn't seem to exist in the rest of the lore
versed jackal
I guess it was one of those different dimensions that was a bit more unique
Thats part of the main story @uncut harness
uncut harness
ok
but people have been here
2 places clwimef by different people
should i search for bases
uncut harness
guys
whats the projext
with a load of people in one galaxy
like all close together
versed jackal
the hub? there are a bunch of communities around
real sapphire
i got this today
#21
Alien: ITERATION #ERROR
A terminal blinks, awaiting input...
{Download Data}
ERROR
ATLAS
ERROR
ERROR
ERROR
THEY SEE YOU
its so weird..
versed jackal
btw, I got pretty much all the non-mission logs on my pastebin account if you haven't read them or need to refresh
real sapphire
tbh i have never played a game that gives me an unexplainable feeling, especially the interaction with the Boundary Failures...
versed jackal
read the later abandoned building logs as well
real sapphire
AR patch made things more mysterious
Atlas will die in 16 minutes, but somehow something froze its time.. that is also a weird thing...
and The purge, whenever you warp to another system, a glyph builds up, that is also... i can't explain it
versed jackal
Also I read it as a nested simulation every time you go through the center/pick a choice
real sapphire
everything is so mysterious when AR patch release :S...
versed jackal
every time you go 1 step deeper you get a bit more time of a sort
real sapphire
π like star trek
versed jackal
also isn't a lot of it just predicting the future?
real sapphire
But yea... i really love AR patch
versed jackal
its not the actual thing happening right now, just a simulation of what might come
real sapphire
i wonder who is the genius behind all this... lol
whelp that's deep :S
but it seem to make sense.
man they are complete genius, managed to make lores that touches our souls, and think mystery
idk, maybe next patch would uncover the truth? Or it could be more mysteries
NMS is like a game filled with mysteries
agree on that
a game filled with mysteries, not only exploration...
i would say NMS is quite a unique game by itself
yyep.
versed jackal
It really needs an ingame log of the logs you have found though
a lot of them only make sense when you read them close together
real sapphire
uh.................. i have not recorded any lores π
versed jackal
but if you wait days/weeks between reading logs they just seem like random disconnected stuff
real sapphire
@mild condor did a cat disturbed your keyboard? X:
anyway,s i gtg now
whoops X:
nights all~
versed jackal
I skipped so much lore on my first 1.3 playthrough because I though it was just random flavor
real sapphire
12.40 am Β―_(γ)_/Β―
versed jackal
like the crashed freighter lore and the traveller grave lore
doesn't help that the first 4-5 of them doesn't have much interesting stuff
well, got them all here: https://pastebin.com/u/Ket-
fierce silo
Eleven dies in Stranger Things Season 2
lofty cove
i don't believe you
quiet horizon
I've never even thought about watching the show, so your spoiler is spoiled
uncut harness
She doesn't die
real sapphire
big freighter battle gives only units, antimatter and warp cells nowadays?
versed jackal
yeah its bugged, every single freighter got the same seed for the reward
real sapphire
whelp
native frost
oh that's a bug?
versed jackal
well
there are a bunch more rewards defined in the file
but it always gives the exact same amount of units and the same rewards
instead of the whole range of possibilites
real sapphire
indeed, i remember they give chrysonites, titanium and plutonium too
versed jackal
the freighter seeds have been pretty broken in 1.3
real sapphire
well thanks @versed jackal
versed jackal
for example when it came out the prices were based on the system instead of the actual freighter spawned
and there is still the color bug
real sapphire
i think the color bug is quite an old bug
So you mean let's say a C class freighter cost 101m, when i come back and i find an A class, its still 101m?
real sapphire
ah
versed jackal
you could also find a C class with the price of an S class for example
Anyway, according to the definition in the files, the freighter reward is supposed to be:
30% chance of 100-250 Titanium
30% chance of 100-250 Chrysonite
30% chance of 100-250 Plutonium
100% chance of 1 antimatter
20% chance of multi-tool(rare, whatever that means)
50% chance of 1000-100000 Units
50% chance of 1-3 Warp cells