nms-spoilers

[native frost]

+0.4 shield

[strong minnow]

How DO you move galaxies?

[native frost]

get to the centre of your current one

but you can choose something at the end of the Artemis Questline

[strong minnow]

Oh, okay. That'll be a bit, LOL

[native frost]

at the end of "The Purge"

that'll kick you an amount of galaxies forward

[strong minnow]

I picked the calm galaxy.

[native frost]

Oh then that's Eissentam I think?

What galaxy is that?

rather, what Galaxy are you in?

[strong minnow]

Yeah Eissentam.

I hate combat. Seemed like the best way to have less of it.

[native frost]

Yeah so that's the 4th Galaxy I believe

fair enough

on my pc save I moved through the galaxies the normal way

and iirc it goes Euclid > Hilbert > Calypso > Eissentam > ???

idk what comes after Eissentam

[strong minnow]

I saw the red one and was all 'Yeah, I'd rather have my gums scraped with a rusty cocktail fork...'

[native frost]

I love combat in NMS tbh

but that's because I'm a mercenary in-game

[strong minnow]

I'm intrinsically a storycrafter, a worldbuilder and a roleplayer.

[native frost]

As am I, but I decided I was gonna craft my ps4 Travelers story as a mercenary

Why I built my base on an exotic planet, because it shows the history of the sentinels on those rings you find

which is why my character hates sentinels

I've killed 194(?) now! 😄

and 82 pirates

done 140~ missions for the mercenaries guild

[strong minnow]

That's sprta cool! I wish there were ways people could actually meet.

[frail vector]

Just got to the point past the HoloTerminus in 16 / 16... WOW. That's sorta trippy! (I saved back at my base before heading on to the wrecked ship, got a few things to do today to get ready for company around noon) Really am intrigued now... sounds like some parallel dimension stuff.... guess I will find out 😃 Good play HG... with just a few paragraphs of story the mind can be fired up like this! Pretty great.

[strong minnow]

I'm still being all wimpy about my waifu Artemis being dead.

[amber bay]

@strong minnow did you kill him/her or did you load artmetis into the simulation?

[strong minnow]

I put her in the simulation but then told her the truth.

[amber bay]

did the same, could lie the him/her.... still don't know if its a him or her tbh

[strong minnow]

Looks like a her to me.

Ugh. Every time I build a signal booster, it gives me some other metal than what I want. What does aluminum usually look like on the ground and what's an easier way to find it than flying around like an asshole?

[velvet juniper]

its greenish golden, you scan the planet from space by looking at it, waiting until you can see the name popup and then press the button for scan on the popup that come up

after a while you see which metals you can find on there

if its not there where you fly, go back in space and fly to the other side of the planet

also you can try shooting asteroids in space, next to iron and thamium there is always another ressource you can find, sometimes its aluminuim

but its always the same resource in one system so if it isnt aluminium you may need to warp

[strong minnow]

Gotcha. It says it's here. And the asteroids in this system are copper and iridium which I don't need more of just this minute.

[velvet juniper]

yeah, its very obvious greenish golden objects on the landscape most of the time. You can clearly see it while flying

So you can find it easily by flying around

[thick thistle]

So, I'm working on the atlas path. I have all 10 seeds, but at the interface there is only 1 beam on. Am I doing something wrong?

Okay. I figured that out.

Never mind.

[thick thistle]

New question shouted to the void.

After the final interface, it tells me to reach a black hole. Do I go through it? Got another data injection to another black hole when I arrived.

Ugh

[earnest wharf]

void intensifies

[frail vector]

I'm still worried about something that's probably a super-long way off for me... Resetting the universe at the end of the Atlas track... um... If I don't do that, will the issue eventually be forced by security on all planets/in space going up continuously? I really hope HG didn't go that route (except maybe on Survival mode?) because that sounds like a really hard-mode thing that I didn't sign up for on the Normal mode...

Ah well, guess it's not something that people want to spoil for me even here, when I've said it's a very long way away anyway 😃 I'll discover what I discover, and I have two save slots I can go back to if I don't like the results, heh

[earnest wharf]

hey cheezer

i finished the atlas path first

plus artemis

i have one glyph now

this is the spoilers channel so caveat reador

so

what do you mean by forced issue?

like will you be forced to reset?

@frail vector

[native frost]

@frail vector I understand what you mean

and the answer is no they don't force an extreme sentinel presence after choosing not to reset the simulation

[earnest wharf]

i agree with @native frost if that is the question

[frail vector]

@native frost yaaay that is what I was concerned about 😃 thank youuuu!

[frail vector]

Unless they have another untenable situation requiring me to make a hard decision... Eh

[strong minnow]

I'm all happy. Quiote by accidental fortune, my new base has a ton of emeril right near it and also not far from heridium. I'll take it.

[heady crane]

what happens if I refuse at an atlas station?

[earnest wharf]

40 lashes with a wet gek

[wooden herald]

Heya guys

So I'm at the end of the storyline

At the atlas interface

[versed jackal]

atlas interface story or awakening story

[wooden herald]

Awakening

So if I go on I will be teleported to another galaxy am I right?

[versed jackal]

if you pick one of the 4 galaxies yes

[wooden herald]

Ok

But then will I be able to go back to euclid?

[versed jackal]

nope

its 1 way

the ship you are currently flying needs a complete repair, and you lose access to your current base, but otherwise you keep everything

[wooden herald]

So I can't complete the game without leaving euclid

[versed jackal]

you got the option of not picking any and staying at euclid

[wooden herald]

Oh ok

And then can I go back to the interface if I want?

[versed jackal]

not exactly

you can go to the center to go to the next galaxy in order

but you dont get the option to choose between 4

[wooden herald]

Ok I get it

Thank you :)

[heady crane]

atlas path and the artemis are the two main stories? whats this "awakening" ?

I'm going thru the atlas stations right now...

[versed jackal]

awakening = artemis

[heady crane]

ah ok, thought so

[frail vector]

Well I went through the portal in 16 / 16 - Actually was not bad, it actually led me to the economy scanner on that system's station 😃 But now, the writing is suggesting there is some cosmic deadline, but in reality I have the feeling it's more like a Take Your Time situation... like in other media/games we see how time is running out, oooooooh! But we can actually still DO everything. It even seems, from what some of you have said, that the great catastrophe can even be averted by a simple choice and without resetting! That's pretty awesome that HG isn't locking us down to an apocalyptic path, if we don't want to go down it. 😃

[versed jackal]

well its 16 min outside the simulation, not inside of it

and the new lore added in 1.35 hints at something happening before the end anyway

[frail vector]

so it could very well be an eternity inside it. And yes, eleventh-hour miracles (Deus ex machina) can happen in a good way, so I will look forward to seeing what that is at some point in the future... It seems I've got 16 warp jumps sometime in my future. And all the exploration that entails 😃

[wraith socket]

Will they fix the bug associated with Atlas Seed recipes and heading through the portal? It seems those of us who jumped between Atlas Rises and the Artemis line end up missing Atlas Seed recipes. 😦

[frail vector]

I have the Captured Nanode recipe, it's 200 Iridium, not too bad... the second Atlas station I came to was unresponsive... gotta find the third coming up for both storylines it turns out 😃

[glacial forge]

so is there a difference between the 4 galaxies you get to pick from?

[versed jackal]

There seems to be more lush planets in the tranquil choice according to those that have gone there

there are 3 different versions of the yellow star system in the biome files, though can't confirm if it relates to the galaxies or not

regular version, one with more lush biomes, and one with more dead biomes

[glacial forge]

ah, okay. hmm

[amber bay]

well first time i see this one

[fast spoke]

Huh

ive seen that multipe times tbh

[versed jackal]

got that one at least twice on my normal save after 1.3 came out

[amber bay]

well first time i see it xD

i normaly get the orb like atlasses

[modern parrot]

I just found a planet full of these terminal for the first time

I've gone through almost 10 of these already

It seems like they are talking about the story of the woman voice in our exosuit

One of the terminals I found have this written on it:

".I'm condemned to see the universe through the eyes of a stranger"

[amber bay]

@modern parrot do you know if a ship design is star system bound? I can’t find a straight answer online

[modern parrot]

I wouldn't know :(

[amber bay]

Omay

[low briar]

Wait you can't pick your galaxy later if you refuse the atlas?

Fucking rip me

[amber bay]

i think you still can if you arrive at the center no?

or does that just push you to the next?

[uncut harness]

How long was Loop16 in sleep mode during the Twitch stream?

Not sleep mode, dream mode.

Sorry.

[modern parrot]

My mind is literally blown by the lore in the round terminals

Oh my god

Seriously

In case anyone wants to read it

https://youtu.be/lLddSfRYSFI

[heady crane]

Ok, doing the atlas path, about to head to the last atlas interface (afaik). But I cant find any info on the post 1.3 update quest

a) do I need to make the atlas seed? and have it in my inventory

b) I've seen people mention "reset" and theres talk of going to another galaxy.... does that mean I lose my base/ship if I "make a new galaxy" or whatever it is?

[uncut harness]

Yeah I just wrote summaries of every mysterious ring structure terminal. It blew my mind.

It addresses us, the player.

[crude chasm]

I have a question. How do I choose my next galaxy? Ik u can't choose but is it random? How do I get to tranquil without atlas

[modern parrot]

There is an order you go through everytime you reach the center.

The tranquil galaxy is the third one in the sequence if I remember correctly

So you have to go to the center twice to reach it if you rejected the Galaxy reset at the end of Awakening questline

[crude chasm]

What qualities does hilbert have? Isn't that the imperfect one? What does the game mean by imperfect? How does that change the planets?

[severe violet]

so there is such a sense of urgency when you're near the end of the awakening storyline ... what happens if you choose not to reset ... life just continues on in the current galaxy?

[uncut harness]

One would assume so.

Also, I'm making a No Man's Sky lore vault with the help of someone that catalogs all of what we see in the game lore-related, right down to some product descriptions, probably.

An interesting tidbit that may have been glossed over is that the Korvax were made to be based on earlier versions of the Atlas. So the Korvax are supposed to be more related to the Atlas, even right from the beginning. This is likely why they worship the Atlas in the first place, they are just similar beings.

[slow yacht]

Hi

What if No mans sky means that there are no Humans In the sky?

[uncut harness]

It only means that no man owns the sky.

Or, at least, that's how I take it. It's the most obvious assumption, and it makes sense. Not just one man owns the sky. It's anyone's.

[heady crane]

you cant take the sky from me

[viral yarrow]

Hey guys

I just built a heart of the sun and went to the atlas interface to use it

As I inputted the item the terminal activated but it said nothing

Is this a glitch?

[uncut harness]

Pretty sure it's a bug

[velvet juniper]

for what do you need atlas stones?

can i sell them?

[amber bay]

@tiny gyro feel free to ask hete

Here*

[velvet juniper]

:> no one knows? 😦

[frail vector]

When it comes time (still under the auspices of the 16 / 16 mission I Think, need to jump back into the game to make sure?) to use the HoloTerminus to start warning other Travellers, hey, the Atlas is gonna shut down soon, does a sort of timer start? (I mean, for the player's experience, I know there are 16 minutes left until the apocalypse on the OUTSIDE 😃 )

Asking because if there is I don't want to start that yet 😃

[quiet horizon]

Nope, no timer

[frail vector]

Awesome 😃

[low briar]

The atlas never asked me for, or even consumed any of my atlas stones

Hell I completed the path with the 4th one I think

[hard fern]

Hey guys, I'm doing the purge quest atlas sequence 2/16, and I fly into an atlas interface but it says nothing? Nothing happens at the terminal and my count hasn't changed. Is this a glitch? First time through the game so I thought I'd ask the pros :o

[low briar]

@hard fern The silent atlas is a glitch that happens to a lot of people, however the purge quest is just counting how many systems you jump (I think)

[hard fern]

@low briar ohhh I see, thank you! 💛

[low briar]

Once you get to 16 total jumps things happen

Also look at your communicator, you get a couple messages

[hard fern]

Will do, thanks so much. Excited :'D

[uncut harness]

Been writing more for the lore vault I'm making. How many of you have a good understanding of the lore?

Or at least some sort of will to find out more about it.

[spark thunder]

I think I've reached the end of the atlas path (its directing me to a black hole and I've done the heart of the sun recipe) Do I go through the black hole or finish the purge first?

[earnest wharf]

i chose not to do the purge

but i am struggling between tranquil and ancestral

[uncut harness]

I chose ancestral

[jaunty bramble]

Raging for sure!

[crude chasm]

So I complete the Artemis story to get to tranquil galaxy?

[spice gorge]

Hey

Artemis quest question

So I am near end of quest. I chose to mee the Final Interface (vs. complete Atlas Quest vs. Explore). So it says head to the center of the galaxy. That's like 1,000,000ly away. I've done a few jumps -- but last jump I got an indication when I landed on a planet (maye 3 jumps since I started to Final Interface) saying The Purge -- Sequence: 1/16.

As I keep proceeding towards center will I get 2/16, 3/16 etc. until 16/16 --- I don't need to actually travel the million ly to center right?

[amber bay]

Correct

[crude chasm]

Also my question pls

[amber bay]

@crude chasm you get to pick between 4 galaxy’s

[spice gorge]

@amber bay Do you know if one must land on a planet in each system to have the next sequnce # appear?

[amber bay]

Tranquil is one of em

@spice gorge nope jumping is enough

[crude chasm]

I'm guessing eeastiman or whatever it's called? What color is it?

[spice gorge]

thanks

[amber bay]

You can look at the galaxy’s before deciding

I think tranquil was reen

Green*

[crude chasm]

I know them. I think I'll like tranquil the most

Raging sounds frustrating, imperfect and that other one sounds random

[amber bay]

I think i picked ancestral

Wich dropped em to gal 7

[crude chasm]

What qualities does it have?

[amber bay]

It is said to have more exotic planets

[crude chasm]

Explain?

[amber bay]

The wiki has more info on it

[crude chasm]

All gamefaqs said was that ancestral galaxy was insane

[amber bay]

https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Budullangr

This is the one i am in

[crude chasm]

Is that the tranquil one?

[surreal crypt]

@crude chasm No

[crude chasm]

Oh. He said it was a green one

[surreal crypt]

Tranquil is Eissentam

[crude chasm]

Ok.

[amber bay]

Like k said not sure

[uncut harness]

@amber bay that's the one I chose 😄

[amber bay]

Ah nice

[wanton dome]

Alright just ran into a weird bug

I got glyph 16/16, but im still missing glyph 1. When i went to get it, the grave just gave me nanites

Anyone else have something like that happen?

Nvm, found another grave and got the last glyph

[placid cedar]

Hey guys, I've been stuck on the Patterns in Time quest where I have to speak to a Mercenaries Guild Representative but it says he's in another system and I've just been infinitely traveling in one direction, anyone know a workaround or what's going on?

[uncut harness]

Shoot me a message if you are interested in helping two No Man's Sky fans write a comprehensive lore guide.

[hollow cosmos]

hi

[low briar]

After the "16" atlas code countdown

You'll be taken to a third portal

[hollow cosmos]

I basically just killed atlas or whatever. universe has 16 minutes left

I went to a holo terminal and tried contacting other travellers

now I got the "head to the center" quest

I just don't want to leave euclid

[fast spoke]

You dont have too @hollow cosmos

[low briar]

You get the option notto

[hollow cosmos]

great

[low briar]

That's what I did

[fast spoke]

Keep on warping!

[hollow cosmos]

because fuck going outside euclid lul

[low briar]

You just have to keep warping lol

[fast spoke]

^

[low briar]

Don't even need to go towards the center

[fast spoke]

^^^^

[low briar]

I might make a backup of my save and then leave elucid

[hollow cosmos]

What do you mean poopicus, I kind of want to "finish the story"

[fast spoke]

Just keep on warping :)

[hollow cosmos]

I guess "progress towards the galactic center" doesn't necessarily mean to reach it

[low briar]

You progress the story by warping

[hollow cosmos]

aight thanks

Oh suddenly I got this 3 part selection now

[low briar]

I have no clue if there's story content past elucid tho

[hollow cosmos]

"seek the final interace", "complete the atlas path" and "explore the galaxy"

not sure what to pick

[low briar]

I still have no clue to the point of the atlas seeds, but at this point I could jump between atlas interfaces with one junp

So I just finished that

I'm 90% sure doing it gave me the location of all atlas stations and black holes on my map

[hollow cosmos]

just picked "complete atlas path" but doesn't seem like anything chagned

[low briar]

That gives you a location of an atlas I think

[hollow cosmos]

keep getting "data injection sequence received" when I warp o_O

it's purple

[fast spoke]

DOnt worry thats just NMS doing its TOTALY normal thing :)

[fallow badge]

Any reason Nada and Polo don't recognise you when you meet them during the story?

[uncut harness]

Lore reasons

[versed jackal]

well. lots of references to non-linear time/dimension hopping

[modern parrot]

Nada and Polo are constants, Travelers are not. The travelers you see like Artemis, Null, Apolo, they are all you but in a different iteration

Atlas has thousands of simulations happening at the same time.

The whole plot of Artemis quest is that the walls that separated all simulations is beginning to break

Artemis is a delicate situation altogether though. He died and got transported to the World of Glass

The World of Glass is alluded to be the equivalent to the Microsoft Windows Trash Bin

You, the player, manages to restore Artemis with the Mind Arc

There is still much we don't know yet, like why Atlas is dying

I'm very curious to what they bring next in the future updates

I wanna see the World of Glass

[gray cloud]

guys

any way to fix my main quests?

i finished atlas one but even after the birth of a new star, the special black hole to hilbert dimension doesnt appear

[versed jackal]

you get to the next galaxy by going to the center or finishing the artemis questline

[gray cloud]

also the artemis quest is still bugged from me

[versed jackal]

atlas quest has nothing to do with going to the next galaxy

[gray cloud]

D:

the quest is bugged for me...the merchants guild representative doesnt trigger his quest dialogs

dont know how to fix it

i looked into the save file manager but i didnt find anything to manipulate the quest stages flags

[versed jackal]

only way to do it is editing the json directly, and if you don't know what you are doing that can mess things up badly

[gray cloud]

yeah i dont know how to do that, i could read anything of that code

can only read some python, ruby and papyrus

so only thing can do is wait to 1.36?

[crude chasm]

How will I know which galaxy is the tranquil one. I know its name is like eissantam or something, but will it say it's name, or will it be a certain color or what?

[versed jackal]

it says tranquil on the orb

thats it

[gray cloud]

galaxy or star system?

about galaxies i dont know much myself because still on euclid, but on star system you need to get the tech of conflict scanner

[versed jackal]

tranquil is one of the names it shows when you are picking galaxies to move to at the end of the artemis questline

it leads to the popular eissentam galaxy

[gray cloud]

oh so it doesnt warp you to just hilbert?

[versed jackal]

if you go to the center it goes straight to the next one, while if you do the artemis quest you get a choice between 4

[gray cloud]

which are the options, in case i manage to fix the artemis quest?

[stuck current]

Raging, Tranquil, Ancestral, and something else.

[gray cloud]

wonder which is the most diverse and weird one, that doesnt have psycho sentinels XD

@versed jackal the one i am its "^ACT2_STEP10" aka Patterns in time at the return to Explorers guild Representative (where its stuck since doesnt trigger the next part)

[barren meteor]

Can't post screenshots in here, but I'm at "The Purge". Looks like I warped to get all 16 glyphs, now asking me to "Trace the leylines to the portal". Sadly, I was doing the Atlas Path quests too and just jumped through two black holes trying to get that to clear. I see a pink path now, but I'm sincerely hoping that I don't need to follow that back 800000LY. Thoughts?

[gray cloud]

and seems that i managed to fix mine with the help of Shyvor

@barren meteor and the teleporter doesnt let you port back to the system where you were doing the quest?

or even if it does, its bugged and does point to the location intended?

[night stirrup]

erm

I combined the two lores of boundary failure and repair terminal, and I have reached a few conclusions based on those two. Will really appreciate if you all can read and let me know what you think:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/6yufj2/spoiler_nms_lore_fan_theory_connection_between/

[gray cloud]

ill do that since i was confused by the final

hmm it helps but im still confused, like why it wasnt destroyed and instead it resetted, why 16 too?

althought i didnt understand, my Crazy theory is that ATLAS is Hello Games and Sean Murray, and their situation was put on the game, the reset an analogy of their current goals with the game, and the universes, specially the 4 choice imperfect, how they view themselves, the rememberance item telling us that they know we remember how badly it came on launch and that is a stain that will not go away

its a crazy theory of a hidden message XD

[low briar]

@gray cloud It reset because atlas is still in control

At the last possible moment it reboots to try and fix the problem

[night stirrup]

Atlas as a machine will die after a certain duration. 16 minutes is the time left from that happening. resetting only resets the simulations.

[atomic hill]

So, given that, all of No Man's Sky is part of the simulation running at near-light-speed.

I'd assume Travellers are some inbuilt "randomness" in the simulation to give it that unexplainable element, but then what does that mean in terms of us?

Are our own actions free will, or are they just part of the system? What purpose does the Traveller even serve besides knowing the machine exists and creating that entropy?

[left snow]

so.. when you go to the next galaxy you really lose your base and everything?

or does some of the contents appear in the next galaxy base chest?

[versed jackal]

you get the 50% of resources spent to make your base, same as if you moved it

[left snow]

cool that it's intergalactic.. guess I better find a home in this new galaxy

[kindred prawn]

So I found an "UNEXPLAINED // Label: 'Dovis-Dabu'" in a secondary room in an operations centre. It requires a Remembrance to interact with it. Does anyone know what the terminal is

[versed jackal]

lore

4 different ones

[gray cloud]

i hope in the next big update, 1.4 lets call it, they add further story and lore

[uncut harness]

I'm not expecting another 30 hours of story though

[crude chasm]

Does Artemis require you to go through a portal?

[stoic escarp]

Anyone found a way to fix the Ghosts in the machine bug that puts the contact waypoint outside of a space station then doesnt let you continue?

[spice gorge]

I ended Artemis but decided I didn't like my choices

So I've just run 10 hours up on a 5 day back save to choose again

Just about to complete - will do it in morning. Drinking now.

Story wise you can't really ask much more of HG

Happy with them enhancing the universe

Got like 40-50 hours story now

But the best part of game is endless exploring

685 hours in right now

Did Artemis - twice - but never did Atlas

Never will

At this point

The Fucking worlds in this game are grievously fine

[glass cave]

guys i haven't play much of the story i heard they explain why sentinels are being "bad" i want to know but i don't want to do the story yet can someone tell me 😃

[uncut harness]

The Sentinels are hard-wired to purge anomalies, unfortunately, in this quest, it does not take much in from the Travelers as being correct so it shoots us too if we end up straying away from doing absolutely nothing. It is insinuated that the Sentinels have become corrupt in their venture to carry out their protocol in many different sources from ingame.

I can't exactly recall what, but even an interview from Sean has him saying that they are not as they seem. They are a protocol of the Atlas, and the Atlas's command may be carried out through them, but in a weird way it doesn't mean for them to be as intrusive as they actually are.

If you want a real story, become aware of the "Telamon" lore. Our exosuit's voice has a story of its own, a tale that is actually quite good.

Also, to add to "purging anomalies," this is also true for the Atlas of itself. It resets the system every so often to stop multiversal hierarchy issues, iirc, and it does this through the Center of the Galaxy, I think. Having the Travelers go to an objective, upload what they have discovered, and escape to another simulated galaxy is how the cycles work. Canonically the Travelers don't remember much of what they did last, though as a player you do. But due to the nature of No Man's Sky's anomalies, it never quite gets rid of them, especially Nada and Polo.

So it's doomed to reset... again and again... before its fate of 16.

[late horizon]

Fate of 16?

[uncut harness]

Sixteen minutes/years/days until it meets its demise, yeah. I think somewhere it was assumed to be minutes, but 16 is the number in which the Atlas simulation will conclude and die. Or, perhaps maybe not exactly die. In the lore, the Atlas simulates its future and sees a hand that reaches out to the Atlas as its universe falters and then it stops seeing what will become of it. It cannot simulate what will happen past that point.

[fast spoke]

It said 16 minutes

[uncut harness]

Thought so. I couldn't remember where.

Was it with the Telamon stuff?

Something said 16 minutes exactly. Can't recall what.

Personally, I think that mysterious figure that stops the Atlas from seeing its future is Loop16. Somehow I think they'll fit her in.

Maybe Loop16 is fabricating a future for the Atlas so that it thinks Loop16 doesn't exist. Something like that. It's super hard to figure out a connection to Loop16 sometimes with all this new stuff we've read.

And why is it called Loop16, and why is the Atlas Engine on its 16th version? Do these things represent how long until the simulation dies, so they put it in the name for them to know how long the simulation can withstand itself?

[real sapphire]

eh how many cargo slot can you have?

[uncut harness]

might be better off asking that in a text channel that isn't spoilers so more people will see it

[modern parrot]

Does finishing the Artemis quest count as reaching the center for the Trophy?

I'm wondering how I should approach this on Permadeath

I thought about getting all the glyphs and head to a planet right next to the center.

[versed jackal]

isn't using the first glyph multiple times really close to the center area?

[modern parrot]

I saw someone post the coordinates for a star system literally right next to the center

So I won't even have to make a few jumps

[real sapphire]

what the f?

there IS ACTUALLY a portal in a barren planet!

[shrewd basin]

thats cool i couldnt find one but now that i haev one me and a friend cant see eachother

[real sapphire]

entered a random address and this portal brought me to a airless planet

[shrewd basin]

@real sapphire what are you playing on?

[real sapphire]

PS4

[shrewd basin]

oh darn ;-;

have you been able to see other players?

[real sapphire]

yea i travelled with @native frost

on a bubble planet

[shrewd basin]

well i dont see why him and i cant see eachother then

we are on the same planet and we dont see eachothers orbs

[real sapphire]

are your friend's internet connected?

[shrewd basin]

what do you mean

[lavish estuary]

hey

im his friend

[real sapphire]

ah

[lavish estuary]

I am connected to the WIFI as u can see

[real sapphire]

hmm

o_O

[lavish estuary]

this is strange

[real sapphire]

try find a green icon?

[lavish estuary]

no player icons

[shrewd basin]

no there wasnt any

[real sapphire]

this is weird

[lavish estuary]

when he goes to my planet he can see the communications thing

and my message appears

but

cant see each other

[shrewd basin]

we both have online services active

[lavish estuary]

maybe we shud try to use hamachi??
idk

and i also used the matter manipulator to write my name

he doesnt see that either

[real sapphire]

https://youtu.be/Gpv8_JRVL1I you guys can try entering this glyph and see

[strange mountain]

@shrewd basin either of you on experimental build, or have mods enabled?

[shrewd basin]

we dont have mods enabled and idek what the experimental build is

[strange mountain]

then i'm not sure, sorry... maybe someone else will have some more suggestions

[shrewd basin]

well atleast you tried to help thank you

[lavish estuary]

k

ECDMDragon

nope

deosnt work

doesnt

[glacial forge]

wait do I have to warp 16 times to get all the data injections?

[uncut harness]

Yes.

[crude chasm]

Does ur ship still crash at the end of the Artemis story where u choose a galaxy?

[versed jackal]

probably?

hasn't seen any mention of that changing

[crude chasm]

Do I have to use a portal during the Artemis storyline?

[versed jackal]

yes

[crude chasm]

Damn

[frail vector]

I just had a conversation with -null-... I'm on The Purge 9/16 - they said something like they've seen EVERYTHING now, and I can't reset the system, and Just ended communication... Did I lock myself into resetting? I really hope not...

[versed jackal]

nah, just some conversations with the various story npcs during the purge jumps

[frail vector]

Ahhh okay 😃

Specifically, the Noospheric Orb... What is an Englobed Shade and where do I get it? 😃

[versed jackal]

you probably got bugged and missed a recipe

should have been your second seed recipe

[amber bay]

Any missing recipe’s should be added with 1.36 when public atleast say the notes

[frail vector]

Ahhh, okay 😃 And wow, this system sells Atlas Stones in its GTT... they're expensive? Do I need them at some point?

[amber bay]

not sure, didn't finish the line myself

[versed jackal]

nope

they are obsolete items

if you had an old save from before the seeds you could sell the 10+ you got for some millions

[frail vector]

Ahhh 😃 No, I started a new one, heh.

[bold elm]

i have a question for the ghosts in the machine quest, at the part where it tells you to visit a vykeen system to buy the terrain manipulator instead of doing that i went through a blackhole thinking any vykeen system would do, not just the initial one labeled but now i cant find the terrain manipulator at any vykeen station. Is it still possible to find it? I'm so far away from the labeled system it comes up as N/A

[versed jackal]

its a scripted reward, not a bought item

[bold elm]

i thought you were supposed to buy it for 100 nanites from the aformentioned vykeen trader

[versed jackal]

might still be able to find it randomly

for 150 nanites

but you really don't want to black hole during artemis story unless you got a teleport back

[robust dust]

Does the purge mission force you into another galaxy

[crude chasm]

Are portals hard to use? Especially the one that Artemis makes u use?

I mean like activate and shit

[fast spoke]

Not really

[crude chasm]

Nice name btw. Bioshock is awesome

[fast spoke]

just find get some carbon,iron,and heridium and your set to activate it

Thanks

[gray cloud]

@robust dust yeah is regarding the purge mission, you have to do 16 jumps, you receive a glyph after every jump and in some jumps a call too

[robust dust]

it didn't say anything about a glyph? Also, no calls, just that text

does it force you to a new galaxy after the mission?

[fast spoke]

No @robust dust

[robust dust]

oh good

is it intended I reach the center after 16 jumps

[fast spoke]

No

[gray cloud]

just a lot of quest stuff, then you decide in the end, to do the reset and jump into one of 4 options, or leave it as is if i remember right

[hexed valve]

i got teraim manipulater out side of the story

[tropic sparrow]

i just did that stuff and went to Eissentam.

which was.. not the smartest thing I did today, but meh

[crude chasm]

Can someone explain using the portal from Artemis? Does it give u the glyphs?

[versed jackal]

just story ones, not the ones you use normaly

[crude chasm]

Does it tell you where to go?

[versed jackal]

pretty much

[crude chasm]

Can u find ur way back okay?

[versed jackal]

not unless you got a portal/base teleport

if I remember right

[crude chasm]

I just realized. I have never used base teleport...

Does ur ship go with you?

[versed jackal]

yes

[umbral dawn]

so

what am I supposed to do at atlas interfaces? each time I've visited one, it only gives me the option to leave

[versed jackal]

sounds like you got the bug

fixed in 1.36

each atlas interface you are supposed to get an atlas seed recipe

[umbral dawn]

oh, cool

what are those?

[versed jackal]

just a stacking recipe that uses the previous one + a couple of hundreds of some resource

used to finish the atlas path + for a tech after you finish artemis story

[umbral dawn]

oh, neat

[frail vector]

Ahh 😃 Hey, about Artemis' quest... The Purge. I'm on 9/16 now as I have said... Um... Is there a chance of new planets I come to being corrupted in some way because of what's happening to ATLAS, and is that undone if I choose to not reset the galaxy but somehow ... it does sound like a deus ex machina is coming soon and I do hope it's well-written at least 😃

[versed jackal]

nah, nothing changes

you are still playing the same galaxies as everyone else

[frail vector]

Ahhh, cool 😃 Yes I do like my galaxy the way it is. However I HAVE heard and seen screenshots of a rather odd biome in which everything looks like 3D pixels or diamonds... haven't seen that myself but would love to 😃

[versed jackal]

those are just the weird/exotic biomes

6 variants and doesn't appear in regular yellow systems

(other galaxies might have one of the other yellow star system variants where they DO appear)

[frail vector]

Ahhh okay.

[umbral dawn]

I briefly arrived at one of the worlds with light pillars, during that artemis quest where you first enter a portal

it was neat, shame it didn't let me stay

[frail vector]

Ahhh. Yeah when I did those parts I never went to a weird one... bummer but eh.

I'm just pretty opposed to losing all the time and work I've put in on the various permutations of my base 😃

[low briar]

@robust dust This is probably way too late, but if you don't want to leave elucid yet refuse the atlas

Also, once you reach the center again, do you get the same option?

[hexed valve]

yo

[robust dust]

am I supposed to craft the things the atlas interfaces give me

[hexed valve]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

doesnt hurt though

[uncut harness]

Do I keep my freighter once I reach the center, because that's where I've been storing my goods

[versed jackal]

@uncut harness The only thing you lose upon changing galaxy is access to your current base, once you create a new base in another galaxy you will get 50% of the resources for the old one

[wanton path]

so

from 9/16 tape

"I am alone in this space between worlds (whirlies? strange distortion), I am alone but for my thoughts, my words. I am alone but for you. I see you. You must have known I could, you must have known what this was. Through these travels we come to know ourselves, just as the universe comes to know us in turn. I cannot step through. I know now that if I do, all of this will be over. Lives come back to me. I've seen horrors and wonders. I have been through. I have become good and evil(?). I have grown beyond all such things. Life after life. And now I am become you(? whispers).

One day your voice will speak to you telling you of something, some signal that needs answering, will tell you of some secret at the heart of reality, some puzzle that needs to be solved lest all life falls into decay and oblivion(?). Do not listen to it. If all the world is a lie, then nothing is true, not even an explanation. Abandon it. Abandon me(? whispers). It is inevitable."

this is Atlas speaking?

is this*

[uncut harness]

we still have no idea but i don't see it relating to anything this far

it could be the creator of the Atlas who was seeded into the universe through the travelers (mentioned in the atlas pass V3 lore rooms) in a specific context. in the message he's telling us, another traveler variation, to ignore pursuing the truth. this could be the creator's artificial soul expressing remorse for creating a too powerful simulation and telling us to ignore the explanation of their reality being fake so that the Atlas's other life doesn't see this. this is why the being mentions being "alone" and in the "space between worlds." that explains the architecture of the travelers very well. they're alone to discover what the atlas made and upload it lonesomely. since each traveler is a copy of the creator, they are the only beings to see past what the atlas only wants them to see (ex. portals and the like which other aliens are said not to be able to notice) so they express a profound ability to see the true reality like the creator

that's what separates the travelers

also, the "voice" would be Artemis. he helps us discover that the travelers are in a simulation. or perhaps the "voice" is a broad term and describes more than just artemis, like Apollo or nada and polo, who aid significantly in understanding the no mans sky reality as well

[ivory mountain]

if i finish the artemis questline (i'm on 8/16 currently):

a) will i still be able to finish collecting glyphs?
and b) will i be in an actual separate galaxy from normal (euclid)?

[spiral stump]

yes, and yes

[ivory mountain]

thank you!

[fast spoke]

@pentagone#2599 You dont have to leave Euclid btw

[uncut harness]

In the lore, the Atlas mentions a creator being there and talking to it. It's inferred that this is probably not Loop16, but I have an idea of why it might still technically be but not be in retrospect. In this part of the lore, Atlas is simulating the future and using elements of the past to predict what will happen to it, so what if Loop16 lied to the Atlas and simulated a fake history and future so that it cannot see all of what actually happened or something? This would explain why such a predictive AI cannot see past the mysterious figure approaching the Atlas during 16.

It's Loop16 waking up or something. Coming to stop the simulation. And so that I get my memory checked, wasn't it presumed that No Man's Sky was dreamed about during the "Dream Mode" sequence of the ARG with all the symbols?

[atomic hill]

well no, we know loop16 was dreaming about nms

[uncut harness]

?

[atomic hill]

(sorry, i can not type)

[uncut harness]

How do we know that?

[atomic hill]

Well, loop16's "dream mode" spat out NMS screenshots.

[uncut harness]

Memory is a bit fuzzy. Wasn't that when the portal thing was shown?

[atomic hill]

Right.

Both the new ship and portals were shown by loop16 after dream mode

[uncut harness]

If this is true, then they need to explain why the Atlas sees a different version of the truth. The beginning with it being made to simulate reality is true, but so was Loop16. Loop16 was also made to simulate and predict reality and garnered enough power to create entire galaxies, a huge hint towards the lore and the idea you're presenting me with, so why is the figurehead of No Man's Sky being so oblivious to Loop16 and not mentioning it? And on top of that, is there a connection to Loop16 and the 16 the Atlas mentions as being the end of the simulation in its entirety?

[atomic hill]

Because it's a separate subsystem.

[uncut harness]

Wait, actually, this makes sense.

Yeah.

[atomic hill]

Atlas exists in-game because Loop16 still needs some sort of link into the simulation.

It makes abstraction and management easier.

Plus, so far, we can reasonably assume that the Traveller is some sort of anomaly meant to introduce chaos in to the system. By having Atlas have a physical presence while also being the "god" of the universe, it allows the simulation to manage said chaos.

[uncut harness]

So Loop16 is the manager of the sim and the one who made it, like a subsystem/protocol made separate to the engine built for the purpose of overseeing. But still, why does the Atlas see a different version of the truth?

[atomic hill]

It'd effectively a virtual machine. The simulation is only told what it needs to know to operate

[uncut harness]

Also, I thought the Travelers were seeded into the universe and were made to be like the CREATOR, which is what I thought was shown in the V3 lore?

Which is why he was scanned?

Jesus, I think I need a timeline going. This is hard for me to understand without having a visual representation. This might take a minute.

[atomic hill]

I'm not honestly sure anymore. From a simulation perspective meant to predict the future, there needs to be some chaotic element involved in it.

[uncut harness]

Well both the Atlas Engine and Loop16 are on their sixteenth version. The death of it in the face of 16 is likely an intentional limit set so that the simulation doesn't run forever, or that that's how long it can run within that timeframe.

So we know Atlas is an engine and it was dubbed as the sixteenth version, likely no coincidence to how long it can run, and that the Loop16 is also the sixteenth one. This is where stuff gets really fuzzy.

[atomic hill]

Well, as far as I can tell, The Atlas Foundation created the "Atlas" subsystem that handled everything.

On this, Loop16 would run on the Atlas platform.

[uncut harness]

Yeah I agree with that. It's just confusing why the Atlas fails to mention a separate subsystem that handles stuff

and why they are both on their sixteenth version as this is most likely not a coincidence

This might be the stuff they're saving for 1.4.

Or future Waking Titan content

[atomic hill]

Well, there are two systems here - the Atlas infrastructure, and the actual AI/whatever the hell.

[uncut harness]

I thought Loop16/ Emily were taking over the simulation/Atlas?

really need to refresh on this stuff lol

[atomic hill]

Both need to evolve at the same time - the hardware and software are bound together

[uncut harness]

Loop16 was built by the Atlas Foundation and took over the partnered companies to them so it could have unlimited power.

Like, all the worldwide supercomputers and stuff. And when it dreams, it makes the No Man's Sky universe, most likely. But it's weird how, ingame of course, it mentions the Atlas as being the same concept as Loop16.

A singular, predictive AI that handles everything. That sounds exactly like Loop16.

[atomic hill]

Well, it would make sense for loop16 to "pass through" the version number into the simulation, so I don't think it's really a coincidence.

[uncut harness]

Hey, what if Loop16 can literally loop a simulation to the degree of 16 as many times as it wants, but at 16 it deletes itself? That might be how it goes, actually.

If that makes any sense. It's hard to word.

[atomic hill]

Alternatively, loop16 is more or less the "manager"

So, it could be that loop16 is just running things and controlling the Atlas infrastructure

Which would be why Atlas is called Atlas in-game. NMS is quite literally running on Atlas, and Loop16 is just monitoring and managing things

[uncut harness]

all we need is more context to the v3 lore :/

[atomic hill]

It could be less a sub-process than a co-process

Loop16 could also just think "hey, atlas sounds cool"

[uncut harness]

Was it loop16 or the atlas that's trying to do a reset from the story in game?

[atomic hill]

This is where things get really confusing.

I would assume Atlas rev16 is getting shut down, and this was told to loop16.

Loop16 passed information and pushed that data into the simulation because reasons

Either way, time in the simulation is not real time. The 16 minutes from shutdown is still enough time to allow Loop16 to simulate the versions thousands of times.

(Including, I bet, where things went wrong)

Though, hang on.

[uncut harness]

Loop16 was made by the Atlas Foundation to simulate and predict stuff, and in the process was anchored to the Atlas Engine 0.16 Alpha. So Atlas Engine 0.16 Alpha is what we play around in the game, but Loop16 is effectively what starts and ends the sim, given its name. It can loop a fully-functional universe to a time limit of sixteen minutes. So in the V3 lore, the Atlas wakes up the touch of its creator who gives it a meaning. This could be Loop16, couldn't it? In the beginning, it never says if it's a male or female, or even a robot, and just sees it as a total god. Nothing else. But as the lore continues it never says the person who wakes it up far into the future the second time is Loop16, only someone telling it that its duty is done and it will leave the planet (leaving it alone.) This might not be Loop16, but earlier in the lore with the CREATOR it might be. And when the creator assumingly leaves the Atlas alone, as it is inferred it has not interacted with it in a bit, the Atlas sees that it will die. And then it states that someone goes to the Atlas, a mysterious figure, and it cannot see past that. This could be Loop16 coming back to end the sim or begin a hard reset.

[atomic hill]

From a design perspective, it would make sense to isolate the monitor and the simulation. That way the system monitor wouldn't interfere with the simulation.

[uncut harness]

So what the Atlas scanned and seeded into the universe might not be the CREATOR, just a random guy working for them or something far off into the future telling it that its duty is done, and because this scanned person knows that the Atlas hosts a sim, the Travelers have an extended knowledge of the universe's secrets because they are duplicates.

This is why they can see things other species cannot.

Like, for example, the portals. It mentioned this in Waking Titan, no other species can see the portals, nobody out of the great triad. Only the Travelers in their dismay and yearning for a purpose.

[atomic hill]

Where loop16/the monitor process wouldn't control the universe itself but still control parameters.

And then interpret the results to pass it.

[uncut harness]

This is very deep and really complicated.

But in a good way.

Makes theorizing challenging.

[atomic hill]

so maybe loop16 is just injecting data into the simulation because it's ending

maybe trying to see what loop16 did wrong? why they shut down?

I mean, we know now that loop16 has emotion.

i have no idea anymore

[uncut harness]

It's very easy to get lost. But remember, Loop16 said we'll see it again.

I'm sure we'll get more info then.

[atomic hill]

I'm guessing that's v1.4

Oh!

[uncut harness]

"And as it watches the moments leading up to its own death, towards
completion of sixteen, something happens.

Someone walks towards the ATLAS, a figure in the darkness and in the
light. It places its hand against the glass of the ATLAS, and the vision ends.

The ATLAS attempts to see past this moment, but it cannot. It cannot see
its own death. It cannot determine who this figure is.

But whatever happens... whatever may occur beyond the sixteen...
something will arrive. Something will be there beside it.

At the end of all things, it will no longer be alone."

[atomic hill]

Maybe version 1.4 is the next expansion of loop16. The iteration that is loop17?

[uncut harness]

Sounds like a subsystem coming out of nowhere to address the engine to me! Very well possible.

with as much as they update we'll hit 1.4 soon

[atomic hill]

or loop16 running on a new/better system?

[uncut harness]

I'm giving it another three to four months before 1.4.

Just to be realistic.

So Loop15 was what No Man's Sky was before 1.3, and Loop16 is No Man's Sky updated in 1.3, and soon after Loop17?

A very meta explanation. Definitely fits the plot context.

[atomic hill]

Alternatively, emily could just not want to get shut down. She might appeal to us and have her run on our own system (sorta like Seti@Home)

I want to say that Emily will be back as loop17 (or back as loop16.1, or even maybe loop16 running on a different infrastructure)

[uncut harness]

Well, we know that the next update is 80% likely to have expansions to the multiplayer aspect of the game. That basically confirms playermodels, right?

Especially since they gave Travelers basic looks.

And established an early multiplayer system, saying they'll add more to it.

Which, by the way, the online works well for only a test. Tremendously well.

Very realtime. All we need is more server-side stuff.

I just wish that it would be less obvious that you're near a player.

I miss the old concept of multiplayer. Where you wouldn't know what ship is a player and which is an NPC. And perhaps you'd never know.

[atomic hill]

well maybe that's the plan in the future

[uncut harness]

Could be, yeah.

[atomic hill]

this is still sort of a test to see how the system will work

[uncut harness]

I'm sure there will be a mod for that or something anyway that removes simple playertags

or I can just disable the HUD, but that would do me less favors

[atomic hill]

im sure you'll see player ships because they'll be flying in really weird patterns

[uncut harness]

Heck yeah. canyon trick shots probably, or crashing into mountains like crazy

or shooting me without me doing anything, wondering why I'm acting the way I am to which I would wonder the same thing

Im curious to how multiplayer with character models will work, dosent seem like they want players to be able to fight/troll each other when meeting, at least not yet lol

Well, it would be so rare that it wouldn't matter if you guys fought.

And so rare that the trolls would be more shocked.

[atomic hill]

well, there's still a massive technological issue with multiplayer

this "floating thing" is still a test of how the system works server-side really

there's still a lot more things they need to work out

like terrain editing

ships, etc

[uncut harness]

true. so I wonder how they're gonna do this then

yeah, everyone sharing the same universe instance and seeing the same thing would be tough to pull off. Star Citizen has been working on something similar and are about to try a "Meshed Server" method.

well we have lobbies

it's not exactly too hard for lobbies

Lobbies have a 24 player count limit right?

[fast spoke]

16

[uncut harness]

They'll likely have to make it so that basebuilding shows up faster than it does right now, as well as the addition of playermodels, realtime terrain editing, realtime factional warfare, etc. etc.

tl;dr- it's gonna be hectic for the galactic hub

tru lol

and I hope they make it so that we can have a large number of player-owned bases in one system

and more than one for each player

[fast spoke]

^^^

[uncut harness]

and actually make it so that terrain editing doesn't kill itself as quickly as it does now

Yeah that thing eats up resource

[atomic hill]

well, i guess hello games could do peer-to-peer, but i don't think they're going to do that

[wanton path]

@uncut harness source of that hiring info?

[uncut harness]

I'll redact that lol looks like its just procedural generation not city and from reddit with no other proofs so im not sure how reliable

[frail vector]

Hi, so the mission "The Purge" has the different jumps till... something happens up to 16... every jump shows me a different picture of a glyph, but I don't get the glyph? Is that how it works? (My glyph section in the guide is still blank)

[versed jackal]

Thats how it works, the purge glyphs are purely for the story and 1 time use, not linked to the out of story glyphs at all

[frail vector]

Ahhh okay 😃

Thanks 😃

[versed jackal]

for the regular glyphs you need to find them at graves, either by exploring or getting a marker from a traveller

[uncut harness]

16

[wanton path]

[gray cloud]

@earnest wharf unless i can return to the atlas station after having completed the quest

and choose eissen, seems im gonna have to jump a lot

[earnest wharf]

right, i agree

i think you only get to make that decision once

[gray cloud]

X_X

[earnest wharf]

i read the galaxies are numbered so i guess you could get there

[gray cloud]

yeah

[earnest wharf]

but i think bud is like 3 and eissen is 10 or something?

[gray cloud]

7 Budullangr
8 Kikolgallr
9 Eltiensleen
10 Eissentam

[earnest wharf]

right then

that's a lot of hops

[wanton path]

what do you think on Budu vs Eissen?

[gray cloud]

budu is so meh....when i choose ancestral i was hopping for lot of diversity

not lots of dead planets

[wanton path]

I'm in front of the las Portal

And looking for Ancestral...

but not sure....

[gray cloud]

ancestral its budu

[wanton path]

yes

[gray cloud]

its good money but boring

[wanton path]

at least I can go to Eissen jumping a lot XD

boring?

[versed jackal]

check this: https://pastebin.com/TBacZ32B

Eissentam likely replaced all yellow with lushyellow

[gray cloud]

oh...that sounds interesting

[versed jackal]

while budu likely replaced it with abandoned yellow

[earnest wharf]

lem

[gray cloud]

yeah lots of abandoned shit

was hopping for diverse...not for a graveyard

what would be <Property name="Test" value="0" />
<Property name="All" value="0" />?

[wanton path]

Weird us exotic?

[versed jackal]

yeah weird is exotic

same names as dead

[wanton path]

so... dead are the new Hexagon planets?

[versed jackal]

not exactly

they got the same type of names when you scan the planet types

but they are 2 different biomes

6 different types of weird biomes

hexagon being one of them

[wanton path]

understood

but according to that xml... Ancient has the same amount of exotic than others?

[versed jackal]

yep, just more dead planets

[wanton path]

As far as I known Ancient = Exotics

[versed jackal]

which if you dont land on them you can't really see the difference

[wanton path]

and Eeissen = Lush

[versed jackal]

Also the starting galaxy has no exotics in yellow star systems

while eissen and bdu does

[main blaze]

hmm i was wondering what will happen if i go to new galaxy, and then use atlas 16 glymphs combination again.

[real sapphire]

oh the clouds is back

[real sapphire]

my lush planet storm has turned into txoic storm

[amber bay]

atleast its a lush toxic storm

[atomic hill]

Yeah, I had that in v1.36 too. I liked the cold storm better.

[lament kettle]

Hey, was reading through older posts on here, someone mentioned an "Emily". What does "Emily" have to do with Atlas/Loop16?

[atomic hill]

Emily Warren is Loop16's interface

Basically, loop16 emulates a human to communicate to us.

[lament kettle]

I'm having a hard time swallowing this information. It's just SOOO coincidental to this: http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Emile

Some illuminati level stuff

'She' is written and addressed as 'Emily' from within the webtoon.

The weapon/system known as Emily was once board a ship called Archimedes, I know it's baseless correlation, but I feel like both this emily and that emily, might be a subset of emily that means something more in our universe.

[atomic hill]

Might be a nod from HG, though I doubt it.

[gray cloud]

hmm doesnt seem unlikely

[idle forge]

Image source looks like kink art

[wanton path]

finished main atlas quest line

but it not give me remembrance blueprint

[versed jackal]

it is given from finishing artemis questline

[wanton path]

oh! I though you get it as you create the new star

thanks!

[glossy crow]

holy crap I didn't expect to see any ToG in here

[uncut harness]

Lmao

[limpid pecan]

New content update coming

[versed jackal]

Source?

[heady crane]

I'm at what I believe is the last atlas interface, do I lose my base/ship/money when I go through this?

[lethal jay]

Has anyone here chosen Wipe System during A Leap In The Dark?

[abstract breach]

blinks

[lethal jay]

I'm curious what happens

[abstract breach]

got me

[proper eagle]

@heady crane sorry for late reply but you lose your base (but it's like switching bases basically you get half the resources) your ship multitool and exosuit get wrecked and you keep your money

[heady crane]

inventory?

[proper eagle]

You keep it

[heady crane]

I did choose to create the star, and went thru a blackhole, but only one tech on my ship got damaged

[proper eagle]

Oh I thought you meant the Artemis quest

The last interface takes you to another galaxy and happens what I described

[heady crane]

ah ok, I did get another interface show up in my map after creating the star, is that the one that actually does something?

[proper eagle]

I finished the atlas path way back in v1 and interfaces stopped showing up for me

The path got restarted in v1.3 and I haven't finished

Try going to it

[heady crane]

maybe, I'm not sure if I was a teleport to nearby anymore... will check

hm, looks the same setup as the last one, too lazy to go through the motions 😃

[pseudo frost]

@versed jackal akalyrik is the source. Its literally like word from hg

[weak tiger]

tfw you want to continue the Atlas questline but you can't teleport to Artemis anymore ._.

[atomic hill]

So, do Nada and Polo really serve a purpose other than existing yet?

I mean, yeah, they give you blueprints every now and then but even so... they seem sort of barren

It just feels like they were supposed to have more lore and backstory about who they are and why they're so important and everywhere

[uncut harness]

There's some lore on them, but not much. All we know is that their existence is a corruption in the system, as in they shouldn't be together in an anomaly, and that Nada was discovered by Polo in a spacecraft that wasn't from Polo's universe.

We also do not know who put "JOIN OUR CRUSADE" on the Superlumina site. nothing matches that description. there doesn't appear to be a race, or a being, in No Man's Sky that is purely brutal in its ways. all the species in No Man's Sky have come to a truce after decades of war, nothing has since been put in the game to stop that.

if anything, I think it's 1.4 storyline coming into play.

or ARG stuff that is going to continue

actually

there IS the emperor

[atomic hill]

well, there were the previous conflits where half the races seemed to be warmongering.

There also still seems to be the fight against the Sentinels, but that's just persistent.

[uncut harness]

well it is plural, could be sentinels. but it didn't seem to be implied that way. and if so, to what purpose? we know what the sentinels are already

not sure on that one

but anyway, yeah I'm betting my money on the Traveler-killing Emperor.

he's the only one out of the entire game lore to go with "JOIN OUR CRUSADE." he's brutal

[atomic hill]

wait, where did the emperor come from?

I don't recall a single mention of him in the ARG or any lore that I've seen so far

[fast spoke]

^

[uncut harness]

it's such a small part of the game that it took me weeks after launch to find it. I'll get it out for ya

[atomic hill]

I mean, the NMS Wiki has references but it seems to just be fanfiction

[uncut harness]

don't trust the wiki

it's rewritten and misinterpreted content

[atomic hill]

Yeah. The wiki really needs to be rebuilt.

Try to make it more like UESP or something

[uncut harness]

I don't blame them, though. the lore is pretty complicated sometimes

but it's best to put the lore writing to those REALLY indepth

https://imgur.com/gallery/uUD7q

read this stuff

https://i.imgur.com/ppsPKOr.jpg

[crisp fern]

lol that's what i've been saying about wiki for awhile

[uncut harness]

Also, a small tidbit I discovered is why the Atlas is called Atlas. or why I think it's called that

in the lore, the Atlas is left on Earth alone. the symbol of the Atlas, as in the Greek heritage, is a man holding up the world.

holding up earth

[atomic hill]

At the same time though, that could just be a backstory with no real link to any part of the lore besides "hey, travellers are weird, yo"

(similarly "the universe is going mad. again. these travellers have something to do with it")

[uncut harness]

true but it's pretty similar to the JOIN OUR CRUSADE stuff. the lore in this shows more than one murderer working with the emperor

but I do think we don't have enough info rn, so I dunno

just a guess from what we have rn

[atomic hill]

well, throughout the history of NMS, there have been multiple things. I mean, First Spawn being one example.

Similarly, we still don't know about the Vy'Keen. They'd seem the kind to have a formalized structure.

[uncut harness]

could be beings from another universe we have yet to see.

maybe an alternate reality version of the Vy'keen

or Korvax, etc.

that would be interesting to see the Korvax be the fighters this time

[atomic hill]

I mean, NMS has added a lot of hooks in for future lore. We're pretty confident that the ARG isn't really done yet.

This was just the first chapter of something.

[uncut harness]

the atlas path ending is the same as it's always been, right? as in, you do all that it asks, you learn a little more about the Atlas and at the end it tells you of a newly-born star in your honor?

[atomic hill]

I think so.

[uncut harness]

they need to update that

it's super underwhelming

you can't even go to the star you made. what's the purpose of making one if you can't see it? and dataminers have said apparently that the game doesn't even make a star when you do that

[atomic hill]

Right. The game can't make a star, really.

All 18 whatever things are already generated.

[uncut harness]

it might just be a canonical thing. it's still annoying, though.

[atomic hill]

I mean, though, that is sort of an example of dataminers ruining things.

Without that data (or lack thereof) being found, it would only be a blind belief thing.

more of an emotional punch to say "hey, Atlas is effectively in control of the universe here"

[uncut harness]

I recall portals having a pre-release function named TIMEWARP that was scrapped in favor of 1.3. there's not much proof, but the person who I had read this from went really indepth and seemed legitimate. they stated that you'd get a journey milestone if you went through the portals before 1.3

and that it was called TIMEWARP

[atomic hill]

I'd believe it. Lots of things get scrapped or completely overhauled halfway through development

(alternately, i've also seen games leave red herrings)

[uncut harness]

so if that TIMEWARP thing is real and it was a genuine concept made for the game, I wonder how that would've worked. I do know that the portal trailer had shown similar terrain to the planet the Traveler came from but with much more life

and less barren

also, has anyone seen any butterflies recently?

[short hornet]

Not yet, and btw I hardly believe at launch they already knew what 1.3 would bring

[proper eagle]

Do one gets to pick what galaxy to warp to after doing it for the first time at the end of the Artemis quest line? Or that’s a one time thing only

[versed jackal]

one time thing

going through the centre only gets you to the next galaxy

[glossy crow]

who is artemis?

or is that major spoilers

[versed jackal]

artemis is pretty much the first story character you meet

first story traveller at any rate

[glossy crow]

ah ok

just found their ship

so much inv space

not sure if I should take it though

[versed jackal]

its just a random crashed ship, if it is better just take it, just remember to transfer any things you got on your ship over

[glossy crow]

ok

[versed jackal]

and repairs get expensive fast

the slot repairs

[glossy crow]

at least this time I have a lot of heridium

yeah I've shelled out a bunch on slot repairs

I'll just check its stats then

I save too many relics

[proper eagle]

@versed jackal aw that’s sucky. It looked like a cool system

Another question, what does rememberance do?

I read it gives some kind of buff and that’s it

[versed jackal]

it counts as a shield module for adjacency bonuses, and it unlocks a few lore terminals behind v2 and v3 doors

[proper eagle]

Lore terminals?

[versed jackal]

just some lore that may or may not be interesting for you

[proper eagle]

I gotta try those then

Cool ty

[silver heath]

i just got it

holy shit

uh

what the fuck?

[uncut harness]

got what

you don't mean....

@silver heath what did you get

[silver heath]

rememberance

[uncut harness]

man you made me think an atlas pass

[silver heath]

oh

yeah i have v3 v2 and v1

[uncut harness]

i'm talking about v4

[silver heath]

v4 is just for the arg

[uncut harness]

yah i know

you made me think you got it with the out of context "i got it" which broke the dead silence

[silver heath]

i sadly did not get it

[uncut harness]

hopefully we all say that one day, but for v4

[uncut harness]

Okay, so WHAT is the thing speaking on tape 9 of 16?? It's confusing me so bad right now. I believed Artemis, but it says that it "cannot step through." We can assume a portal is what it's inferring, as the update dropped portals on us, but Artemis stepped through it anyway. And I know for a fact that it is likely a Traveler given how it speaks about knowing the universe's secrets and the fact that it could recognize portals when no other race actually can

Actually, it likely has to be a Traveler. given that it can recognize portals and says it's alone (and it knows the secrets of the universe) it's likely leading down the path of the Travelers.

So perhaps this is ambiguous. It might not be any Traveler, but perhaps one in particular that warns us to stay away in its own experiences. But for some reason, it states it sees us. But what does this mean?

[fast spoke]

https://archive.org/details/SideA_201706
Side A/B of Tape 9/16 if you want to listen to it again

https://archive.org/details/FinalB

[uncut harness]

"I cannot step through. I know now that if I do, all of this will be over. Lives will come back to me. I've seen horror and wonders."

It also mentions multiple lives that it experienced, so this is DEFINITELY a Traveler. Perhaps it could be some fabricated one meant to derive us away from our main objective?

Some sort of real Traveler who decided to stay away from the "signal" that led it to the portal? Some sort of fake, artificial Traveler made by the Atlas to stop us from doing what will reveal its true form?

I'm betting more money on the second one. It makes the most sense. Why would it mention us and why would it be so sure to tell us all of the negatives that will happen if we step through?

How would it know if it never stepped through if it wasn't by the Atlas?

And if so, how could this canonically function? In the Waking Titan lore, it started off as breadcrumbs made by the Atlas Foundation led in part by Elizabeth Leighton. Before Loop16 took over, this happened with the tapes. How could it be possible in the canon for the Atlas Foundation to address a portal before they even booted Loop16 and knew of the power it would derive?

[fast spoke]

I dont really think the Traviler talking is a "Fake" Traviler

also,the tapes could have been sent by loop 16 from the future

[uncut harness]

That's possible, I'd guess. But are we even sure right now if Loop16 is running the sim?

[fast spoke]

Loop16s dreams ARE NMS

[uncut harness]

The ingame lore contradicts the Waking Titan one a little bit by not mentioning Loop16 at all and refusing to even acknowledge most of what happened with the ARG.

[fast spoke]

Well,its cryptic tbh

[uncut harness]

Loop16's connection is the #1 issue with the lore right now.

[fast spoke]

well,remember when we got the image of the ship (The ingame image)?
It entered "Dream mode" To get that image

[uncut harness]

The only thing I can 100% think of that connects with it is the unknown figure at the end of the ingame lore that comes up to the Atlas as it dies.

Where the Atlas stops seeing the future, something it was designed to do.

What else could do something like that other than a sub-system on the Atlas engine? It could block out a prediction if it wanted to.

So why does Loop16 have 16 in it which directly connects to the "16" timeframe the Atlas goes through? And does the Atlas only run for sixteen minutes, or does it run for any time at all and then has a sixteen minute shutdown sequence?

If 16 is a recurring number only because of the limitations on the sim, as in it shuts down in 16, could this mean that Loop15 was governing its own simulation in which only ran for 15? And so on and so forth? And then when 16 struck, the AI they made was so advanced that it took off with it and created a reality so powerful in just dreams that it zapped all the power away from supercomputers?

OH WAIT

The lore mentions an endless cascade of universes anchored by simulation upon simulation, right? That's the theme? But in the ring lore, it mentions how every home world of every being we encounter: Korvax Prime, Dryn'dargh, Balaron, had a simulation terminal! We might be deep into the sim of Loop16 and this is why we cannot see any trace of it. We're so deep in the sim that our Atlas isn't even the top one, perhaps. Some of the lore speaks about the first Atlas, one made to simulate realities, but I just realized that we might not be in that top one. Think about what we did to Artemis, what if that happened to us?

It's not really related, as many of the questions still stand. It's not an answer, but a realization.

[wanton path]

Oo

[uncut harness]

It looks like a benis

And the one and the middle a bit to the left looks like the doctor fate logo

[versed jackal]

soo. 1.38 datamining, abandoned space station, ambient gamemode icon

[pseudo frost]

can u show those icons

[drowsy compass]

I forced all space station to load the new abandoned_spacestation type that was found in the 1.38 experimental update and there's nothing exciting to see there. Looks just like the standard model. However I'm expecting the new major update to include the full new models and probably some story stuff to go along with it.

[dusty skiff]

so i finished the atlas rise update, what do i do now..

[uncut harness]

we endlessly suffer

[dusty skiff]

[uncut harness]

Anything new in the unpacked files of the game?

[versed jackal]

abandoned space station files, though they are not any different from current ones at this moment

[wanton path]

that is the way HG show us the NMS Roadmap

They know we dig into the files looking for clues...

[uncut harness]

Abandoned space stations?? I might need to unpack it myself now, but I have no time :c

[uncut harness]

NMS Update 1.4 - Atlas Falls on his fucking face

[pseudo frost]

lol

[uncut harness]

I've come to the realization that the 9/16 contents is in the game, apparently.

Found from ETARC/Citizen Science Division/Atlas-65 forums.

There's also, apparently, traces of a secondary entity similar to the Atlas and its power that is dubbed "Abyss," with the signals of it coming out of water/large oceans.

[versed jackal]

Yeah I remember seeing the abyss stuff at operation centers/manufacturing facilities

[uncut harness]

If you were to ever interact with it, you'd be changed forever. Personalities and all.

I'm not so sure what this is. My mind jumps to Loop16, but why would it be in the water?

[versed jackal]

also the whole korvax communicating with alternate realities thing

and the time travel thing with the gek

[uncut harness]

Oh, where's that?

What? Where am I missing these things?

[versed jackal]

operation centers/manufacturing facility puzzles

[uncut harness]

Ah. Figures. I don't read them much.

I'll get on that.

[versed jackal]

its all in my sheet if you dont want to check the files or ingame

[uncut harness]

I would LOVE to see it.

[versed jackal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11y5wSwUDbCsCL84lmf1WmZWoEaYimn1nILVPvhjnbts/edit#gid=618249743

only thing missing is the short translatable text bit on the bottom left for hte puzzles

as it is not needed for indentifying the puzzle you are on

[uncut harness]

This is legendary. Thank you.

[versed jackal]

oh and missing the response from picking an answer

which sometimes got interesting stories

a few of teh puzzles gives fuck all for rewards, but has sooo much text

[uncut harness]

I'll just check the game, then. Should be easier in my case, even though this is all really cool.

Something I don't see mentioned a lot is where Nada is from. Like, its origin.

Not ingame, but by people.

[versed jackal]

was it nada that picked up polo or the other way around?

dont remember

[uncut harness]

In the lore, Nada came with archives of events and actions that never happened. Polo found it around these things and plucked Nada out, essentially starting the duality we see ingame with them in anomalies (the same ones Atlas is attempting to purge but never can.) It's obvious Nada is not from the universe we play in during the game.

Or, really, any universe any Traveler is in.

[versed jackal]

also all the wierd stuff with the base npcs, overseer in particular

[uncut harness]

Didn't the Atlas scan its creator or something and embed them into the simulation, likely creating the Travelers?

[versed jackal]

yeah, thats the stuff in the epilogue

[uncut harness]

I remember reading that.

[versed jackal]

at first I thought it made the korvax from the scan

when I just read the first couple of entries

[uncut harness]

The Korvax are based on earlier versions of the Atlas itself.

This is why they're mechanical.

(And also why they worship the Atlas.)

Don't you find these in special room types?

Like, the lore.

I'm forgetting what type, but I swear I thought it was Atlas Pass V3 stuff.

[versed jackal]

the scanning creator thing is the remembrance epilogue lore stuff behind the v2 and v3 doors yeah

[uncut harness]

Why is it called the Remembrance epilogue?

[versed jackal]

Remembrance is the item you need to read it

[uncut harness]

Like, is it to do with the Remembrance orb you have in your inventory after your first cycle?

Oh.

That makes sense.

[versed jackal]

and its called epilogue in the files

[uncut harness]

Ah, sweet. Thanks for clearing that up.

[versed jackal]

you need to complete the story to get remembrance so

[uncut harness]

Yeah.

I did one cycle for the Artemis plot, but that was it. I didn't go for the Atlas Path knowing the reward beforehand (which is virtually nothing besides the Atlas stones.)

The Artemis plot was a bit repetitive because of the gameplay associated with the game and what you had to do, but it was really cool! I liked the storyline.

[versed jackal]

agree

its pretty good if you read, but the gameplay is meh

[uncut harness]

I even felt for the Korvax base specialist who was disconnected. I think he was a scientist, perhaps? It's been a minute.

[versed jackal]

yeah he is

you get 2 gek, 2 vy'keen and 1 korvax guy at the base

[uncut harness]

It made me feel really sad when he wanted me to build that beacon and he began to question everything, and how we discovered he was trapped in an endless cycle of happiness to depression.

Hello Games made use of the new writer.

[versed jackal]

"SCANNERS ONLINE... AWAITING TARGETING ARRAY..."

`The research station contains a vast array of scanners and monitoring equipment directed at bodies of water throughout the system. It is searching for signs of something designated 'abyss'.

The scientists who worked here seem to have been comparing the transmissions associated with the Atlas to strange signals found within the water.

Before they went missing, the workers concluded that this 'abyss' seemed to hold a similar yet distinct energy signature to the Atlas itself. Another power in the universe...`

Examine the abyss

I examine the records relating to the abyss. They show a repeating pattern of sixteen energy bursts, music that emerges from beneath the waves. Contact appears to alter individual personality and objectives, changing even the most devoted Korvax into an agent of some unfathomable power. Infected Nanite Clusters appear to be present within the archives. I take some of them. It seems to be for the best...

Examine the Atlas

I examine the records relating to the Atlas. They show interfaces, reports of crimson light, and records of visitations and transcendent experiences from across the universe. The Korvax theorise that the Atlas does not itself exist on this plane of reality, speaking to us only through surrogate representations. Infected Nanite Clusters appear to be present within the archives. I take some of them. It seems to be for the best...

Alert Korvax

I alert the Korvax to what happened here, but the Convergence claims to have had no knowledge of this facility or those working here. The Korvax involved disconnected from the Convergence two years ago, presumed dead... I am rewarded for my data. The Korvax promise to investigate further.

hmm, I dont remember reading this line anywhere: "Universe real. We are real. All who oppose this truth shall be struck down, grah! So speaks Hirk Sentinelbane, Abyss Keeper and Lord of Final Monolith..."

oh its the alien text that needs to be translated

for factory 30

Traveller dialogue: Drowned – zzkttt – in the seas of – kkttzztt... Signal led us there, in search of – zzrtktt – pursued by – kkttzztt – abyss, but we couldn’t -... I wasn’t done, I – zzktt – so much more to see, so much more to –

Hmm, What is the dark freighter?

[uncut harness]

Dark freighter?

And holy- this is super interesting.

This is a genuine mystery. Two of them. One stating that the Atlas is not on the same plane of existence as the beings in the No Man's Sky simulation and what you see that seems like the Atlas is only a substitute that it speaks through.

The other is more about the mysterious abyss, something a group of Korvax scientists dubbed and investigated on and discovered that it held a similar energy structure to the Atlas. Those who research it or attempt to investigate go missing for unknown reasons. And even Travelers can be infected by it as indicated from an experience of someone of that race who was hunted down by something to do with the abyss.

This is DEFINITELY foreshadowing future events. I would LOVE to see how they could pull these mysteries tighter to the fans through upcoming updates.

So, so far, we've got the Abyss, the true existence of the Atlas, Loop16's connection, the traveler-killing emperor, and the voice of 9/16 left to figure out, with some more inbetween that haven't been officially recognized here.

Jesus. Remember when the lore was literally just the Atlas holding up a simulation, and that was pretty much it? I mean, yeah, we had some World of Glass stuff, but this blows any of what we used to have right out of the water. These are mysteries left to the imagination.

[versed jackal]

There are a bunch of visions around aswell. Some directly referencing full multiplayer

[uncut harness]

Visions?

[versed jackal]

Travellers conversations

[uncut harness]

Oh, right. I have yet to encounter one of those ingame.

Do you know of the Telamon lore?

[versed jackal]

Yeah. Read all 20

[uncut harness]

It mentions how, once the simulation is shutting down, that eventually the Multiverse hierarchy the Atlas is sustaining will be torn apart and all will start to collide. Especially Travelers.

We could use some of this to determine what point of time we are in during the simulation. So far we're able to see glimpses of other Travelers, but not much.

This doesn't mean it's torn apart yet, but colliding. It's already beginning.

[versed jackal]

there are about 20 different traveler conversations

from the random spawns

[uncut harness]

Isn't it just rare to find them, though?

[versed jackal]

yeah, they randomly replace the other npcs

[uncut harness]

Does anyone have a compilation of dialogue from them?

[versed jackal]

I could copy paste them from the files

fairly easy to look through

[uncut harness]

Side-note: I find it insane that they gave the Exosuit's voice actual lore. How high were they when writing this?

[versed jackal]

just a lot of dead text in between

[uncut harness]

if you could do that, we could theorize on it. would be nice to have

not just for us, but the community

[versed jackal]

the language files got about a million lines, about 50 per line of actual text, rest is filler of sort

[uncut harness]

Wait, the Travelers have a language?

[versed jackal]

im talking about the game strings

[uncut harness]

Oh. Haha that makes sense.

Sorry, got confused.

[versed jackal]

like english vs german vs french etc

[uncut harness]

Yeah.

[versed jackal]

I was about to go to bed, but I could pastebin all the traveler conversations tommorow

[uncut harness]

Also, here's a question, Artemis said that it knew us from an earlier point of time, didn't he? But from where?

We just began a new cycle. How could we know him, or vice-versa?

Well, actually, nevermind. That could work.

[versed jackal]

I see a vision of myself, older, undaunted, travelling beneath the star of an alien world. But I am not alone. There are other Travellers with me. More than just apparitions, more than just visitors. One day we will travel together, side by side. There will be no sky we cannot claim, no challenge which we cannot overcome. Our universe awaits. The vision ends. The Traveller asks me how I feel.

Hm. It's really you, isn't it? I had to see it for myself. The dawn of the Travellers. The last days of the universe. ;But don't give up hope. It's said that one of us visited you in your darkest hour and showed you a vision of a future you believed to be impossible. So, here I am...

[uncut harness]

Where's this from?

[versed jackal]

traveler conversation #20

[uncut harness]

So when you see a Traveler in a space station, it says stuff like this?

[versed jackal]

yeah

there are several that got a vision with it

then they ask you a question related to that stuff

and then you get a bunch more text for each of 3 different choices

some of them are fairly similar

[uncut harness]

So not actual Traveler to Traveler convos, but just a self-reflection. So I'm guessing the reason why they're called visions is because they aren't in that actual environment, it's just glitches that cause the free mind of the Travelers to reflect on themselves.

[versed jackal]

but if you don't save scum you probebly would have to meet 60+ travelers before you see them all

[uncut harness]

Is that how it goes? Like, what I said?

Genuinely curious. Might have to investigate more.

[versed jackal]

nah, some of them start with a vision, then they talk to you

like that one

[uncut harness]

Oh. So self-reflection and then genuine convos. Makes sense.

Huh.

So I guess the sim really is breaking.

If we can talk to them already, the next few updates will probably "break" the sim more. Adding enhanced multiplayer under the recurring context of "sim glitches."