#off-topic-bond-james-bond

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cobalt hemlock
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Put it in my filing cabinet

turbid oracle
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aight

arctic eagle
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No one is parting me from my beautiful killy sticks

cobalt hemlock
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k

arctic eagle
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and My potato

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I actually have 2 named potatoes

paper nimbus
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I have a complaint

cobalt hemlock
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I mean, I put the whole “leave your weapons at the door” thing there so people wouldn’t fight in the tavern

paper nimbus
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the recent perms change got rid of dynmap marker management for me

cobalt hemlock
turbid oracle
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yea like literally everyone got De-OP'd

cobalt hemlock
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you too fris?

turbid oracle
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not sure

tiny tartan
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Sorry. I think that's my fault in a way, for telling Kaz I wanted to just be a player.

paper nimbus
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Kaz wants to do the stuff on a per-person basis

cobalt hemlock
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hm

paper nimbus
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eh, I wouldn't blame it on anyone in particular really

tiny tartan
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Wouldn't have happened if I hadn't stepped down.

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So it is my fault.

turbid oracle
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stop blaming yourself for everything

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it really is not healthy

cobalt hemlock
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don’t take the blame for everything!
You do stuff right!
and you’re a friendly person, people don’t hate you or your opinion.

arctic eagle
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The Legendary Quav

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Almost better than my potato

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almost

cobalt hemlock
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aaaalmooost

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if he stops thinking he is bad and unwanted, he would be on level with the potato imo

paper nimbus
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brb getting allen wrench

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allen wrench get, all is well

dire saddle
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alan wake!?!

turbid oracle
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ah

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no... wah*

dire saddle
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WAHRIO

raven plaza
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waaaaaaaaah

paper nimbus
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ffs taco

dire saddle
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c'mon

gusty cobalt
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Why

raven plaza
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yipefieiifdede y o ptiody

gusty cobalt
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But why

raven plaza
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wwyeiupeeddoo yopdidy

rare mauve
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RYAN YOUO LIVE?!?!?!?!

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HI RYAN

turbid oracle
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I read ryan's messages as Freddy Mercury doing the singing and the audience repeat thing

mortal crescent
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sry had to go

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but pls dont destry my build

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by towers

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my*

mint spear
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how common are giant eggplant monsters?

mortal crescent
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??

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Pic?

mint spear
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ugh it's a shitty pic

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thing cleared out my shields in one smack

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1s

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a little better

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if i find another ill try again

magic jay
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Kill them

mint spear
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kill everything

rare mauve
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Goodnight friends

mint spear
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the main reason im frustrated is we can't blow up planets

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night

fickle obsidian
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🤦

pliant fjordBOT
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Astronomy pic of the day

The Complete Galactic Plane: Up and Down

Explanation: Is it possible to capture the entire plane of our galaxy in a single image? Yes, but not in one exposure -- and it took some planning to do it in two. The top part of the featured image is the night sky above Lebanon, north of the equator, taken in 2017 June. The image was taken at a time when the central band of the Milky Way Galaxy passed directly overhead. The bottom half was similarly captured six months later in latitude-opposite Chile, south of Earth's equator. Each image therefore captured the night sky in exactly the opposite direction of the other, when fully half the Galactic plane was visible. The southern half was then inverted -- car and all -- and digitally appended to the top half to show the entire central band of our Galaxy, as a circle, in a single image. Many stars and nebulas are visible, with the Large Magellanic Cloud being particularly notable inside the lower half of the complete galactic circle.

fickle obsidian
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nice

sweet hawk
arctic eagle
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Oh My~~

paper nimbus
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this isn't what I expected to see as the first image of the day

sweet hawk
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well

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too bad

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also gunter, nice photo

mint spear
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i keep falling through the ground

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I'm ready for far cry

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5

thorny crescent
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Machine Gun Korok

cobalt hemlock
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god, I’m still not fully awake.
I went over to #nms-photomode-gallery and was honestly sort of surprised to see no mans sky screenshots there.
i somehow thought this had turned into a minecraft discord lmao

mint spear
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I need to play Minecraft more : p

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@glass sleet What do you have witj wolves? I want to join the hype

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WHO PUT A MESSAGE IN WT aeyes

cobalt hemlock
glass sleet
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@mint spear ???

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there isnt any hype

cobalt hemlock
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kaz is a wolf
he somehow became sentient and understands internet shenanigans

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thats the whole story ¯_(ツ)_/¯

jolly patrol
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I can confirm
Kaz is totally a coolio sentient wolf

fickle obsidian
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Ooh, dunno what someone's started in the Minecraft world south of Gamer's tavern, but it looks to be a promising start.

gusty cobalt
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Isn‘t fris‘s tree south of the cabin?

fickle obsidian
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This structure's on land, east of that.

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On the little peninsula.

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At least, I think that's a fitting term for it. Hmm.

gusty cobalt
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Oh I haven‘t seen that one yet, gotta take a look this evening

fickle obsidian
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It's only a start from what I can see via the map, but looks like it could turn out pretty slick.

thorny crescent
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You mean the quartz foundation?

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Or the hut next to it?

cobalt hemlock
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🤔

gusty cobalt
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Anyone got a link to the dynmap rn?

cobalt hemlock
gusty cobalt
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Oh yeah looks nice

thorny crescent
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yeah, that one!

fickle obsidian
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Yep, that one

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lol I was just too lazy to screenshot it

gusty cobalt
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You can do /cu i on chests to see who put stuff in and took stuff out, I guess you can find out who‘s house it is that way if you wanna know

cobalt hemlock
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yeh

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and it's /co i

gusty cobalt
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Huh

cobalt hemlock
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Not /cu i

gusty cobalt
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at least I was close

ripe jackal
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Co i

fickle obsidian
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Koei Tecmo

frank crown
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It's coreprotect information

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There's also coreprotect rollback and so on

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And that's mine

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Lol

sweet hawk
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hey um

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anyone got some spare feathers?

frank crown
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I won't be on for the whole day

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But I actually have some

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They might be in my chests

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You can take a look I don't mind

fickle obsidian
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lol

frank crown
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Lol all I care about not getting lost are the bone blocks wood and red netherbrick

arctic eagle
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I don't have a fishing hole

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Time to make a fishing hole

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Oh

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I can write a book

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The legendary Book of Fuck

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The coolest thing about being on a server is that I can make artefacts and hide them

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Writing this many fucks is hard

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Book of Fuck written

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Now to hide it

fickle dagger
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The place you hide it should be called the fuck hole

cobalt hemlock
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ugh, another hour and 25 minutes, then i can go online

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but when i come home i will first make a new minecraft skin

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also i changed my account name to "JustARandomFox"

unborn wave
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A random fox appeared

cobalt hemlock
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lol true

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they need to add foxes ;-;

unborn wave
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Foxes are cute af

cobalt hemlock
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ikr

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imma make a fox with clothes
and underwear so i can sleep in my underwear lol

unborn wave
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lmao

cobalt hemlock
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i stole the idea from frisout

unborn wave
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Something about his face disturbs me

cobalt hemlock
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lol im not good at animals

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not really good at humans either

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so a combination is hard

arctic eagle
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Book of Fuck hidden.

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Good luck

thorny crescent
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Pokemon Go.

turbid oracle
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What

arctic eagle
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😉

turbid oracle
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Also lol @cobalt hemlock I'm fine with you "stealing" the idea

cobalt hemlock
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hah

turbid oracle
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I'm sure I'm not the only one who got it

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@unborn wave this my my skin normal

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And this is with layers off

unborn wave
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Nice suit haha

turbid oracle
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Wait here is a better picture of without skin layer

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@cobalt hemlock I recommend using minershoes to make a skin. I used that site for mine back in the days

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Easier than editing the actual image in paint

cobalt hemlock
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lol yeah

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i came across some other skin editor site thing

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also has layers

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ill see which one i use when i get home

turbid oracle
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Aight

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Will you actually make a spacesuit btw or just the fox?

cobalt hemlock
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i think just the fox

turbid oracle
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Cool

cobalt hemlock
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becuase spacesuit doesnt make a lot of sense

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in minecraft

turbid oracle
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Indeed and you won't see the fox anymore

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From a lot of angles

cobalt hemlock
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like, ill have a clothing layer with some tools n stuff (i like building stuff in minecraft so this seemed appropriate)
and then an underwear layer

turbid oracle
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bob fox the builder

cobalt hemlock
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hah

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please dont call me that

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oof, gotta go home now bye

turbid oracle
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Lol I won't

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Good luck have fun

cobalt hemlock
turbid oracle
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Oh wait

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Let me delete that

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Also nice

frank crown
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I remember when I used to make skins

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Theyre all the red cow things

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But the outfits were mine

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Also space suits make sense

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;-;

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Ever since they added semitransparence to skins

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It just clicked

turbid oracle
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How did you get transparant colors

frank crown
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Any program that allows semitransparence on its pixels

turbid oracle
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Since when is that?

frank crown
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I think novaskin has it

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Miners doesn't

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My app doesn't but i edit it on Ms after

cobalt hemlock
frank crown
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They added the feature like 1.9ish

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I think

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Make the space suit

turbid oracle
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Yea I played from Beta 1.8.1 (2011) till current count 1.7

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So I wasn't there when they added that

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It's getting good rando

frank crown
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Give it too tails too <3<3

turbid oracle
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Maybe add the snout at the face 2nd layer?

frank crown
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Every time I see that skin horrible Ryan flashbacks pop into my head

turbid oracle
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He's making a skin of his drawing

frank crown
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Oh no

turbid oracle
frank crown
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Prepare for some nam level ptsd

turbid oracle
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Ryan's photo is just Tails from sonic

frank crown
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I know lol

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Everyones going crazy over the Minecraft throwback

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It's like my childhood again

turbid oracle
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Join the server

frank crown
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I did

turbid oracle
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Cool

frank crown
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I just have coursework and all that jazz so I'm not super super active

turbid oracle
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Sadly the same goes for me

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So my tree has to wait

frank crown
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Rip

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I saw a mushroom biome on the map

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Might get some silk touch

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And build a huge mushroom

turbid oracle
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Oh no

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My sworn enemy

frank crown
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I've done it before

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Oof

turbid oracle
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Or do you mean dark oak forest?

frank crown
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No

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Like an actual one with mycelium

turbid oracle
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Oh no... My sworn enemy

frank crown
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All the mushrooms in the forest wouldn't supply me

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They also aren't replantable

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Let's see if I can get an old image

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Might take a while

cobalt hemlock
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tfw you get a lot of progress only to notice you fucked up the colour palette

turbid oracle
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Oh no

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How?

cobalt hemlock
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i colour picked the wrong pixel and didnt notice until now aeyes

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its the wrong shade of orang

turbid oracle
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Isn't it an easy fix tho?

cobalt hemlock
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yeah

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nothing major

turbid oracle
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Aight

cobalt hemlock
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i fucked up the little shade pixels, because i took the wrong shade so it got inconsistent with the head

sour roost
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orang

cobalt hemlock
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already fixed it

sour roost
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what the fuck

cobalt hemlock
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lol

turbid oracle
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Oooooooooooh

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Even more sexy than woops skin

sour roost
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thats impossible

cobalt hemlock
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time for the clothes

turbid oracle
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You know you can make the arms smaller?

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Like I have

cobalt hemlock
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yeah

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tahts the Alex model

turbid oracle
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Imo that's better

cobalt hemlock
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eh

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i like the steve model better

turbid oracle
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Aight. Your choice

cobalt hemlock
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now, clothes

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right
what colour should the shirt be 🤔

turbid oracle
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well

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on your drawing it's blue

cobalt hemlock
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yeah
but i didnt like that, so i made it dark red

turbid oracle
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sure

cobalt hemlock
turbid oracle
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hhm

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if that's supposed to be an actual tool maybe you should add shading to it

arctic eagle
paper nimbus
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oh no

arctic eagle
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Here Ah Come

thorny crescent
cobalt hemlock
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ohgod

paper nimbus
thorny crescent
turbid oracle
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this is general guys

thorny crescent
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👍

cobalt hemlock
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adding actual tools would be too hard, because i cant make them look normal using these giant pixels
also they would hang from a belt, and the legs obviously move so every time you would walk the tools would snap in half.
so i decided not to do that and went with this instead:

turbid oracle
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yea it's more detailes now already

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cool

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so are they still actual tools or an emblem?

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atleast what they are supposed to be

cobalt hemlock
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a print on the shirt

turbid oracle
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cool

thorny crescent
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Good night!

cobalt hemlock
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lets make sleeves and then be done

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i have laready spent two hours on this

turbid oracle
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but really it's cool

cobalt hemlock
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i say done

turbid oracle
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nice

cobalt hemlock
turbid oracle
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coming on to check

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and I still need to move Norbert to the tavern

cobalt hemlock
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oh yeah

turbid oracle
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what

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I'm on

cobalt hemlock
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i changed my username right

turbid oracle
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oh

cobalt hemlock
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imma go to a singleplayer world for a bit

turbid oracle
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you need to log in again in the launcher

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apparently

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to fix it

cobalt hemlock
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ah

cobalt hemlock
turbid oracle
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ohno

cobalt hemlock
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i tried to do /home tavern while in a boat with a baby chicken
that crashes teh game apparently

mortal crescent
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Lol

glass sleet
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Oh. if you haven't seen it, the server changelog is now at https://www.atlasdivision.net/minecraft

Atlas Division

Hey there everyone! The kind people over at the NMS Discord have created a Minecraft server, which is currently being hosted by the Atlas Division team. It’s casual-survival, meaning it’s just a low-down fun server to chill with your friends...

turbid oracle
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serious survival world?

arctic eagle
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Hmm

turbid oracle
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really we are small enough, making a 3rd world thus splitting the players even more won't really be a good idea if you ask me

arctic eagle
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When I do need to actually get rid of my potato, I could probably eat it

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Unless I become staff

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Hmm

glass sleet
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@turbid oracle it's something i'm at least looking at. basically a hardcore survival world with no perms for anyone, keepinv off, and no pvp

arctic eagle
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Ooo

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I'll be staying away from that. I've never been a good PvP player

paper nimbus
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no pvp

turbid oracle
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I don't think we got any good pvp players here

glass sleet
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keepinv off, and no pvp

arctic eagle
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I'm an idiot

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That, And I'm tired

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Please have mercy on my tired, stupid brain

glass sleet
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@mint spear you suck ❤

mint spear
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rude

glass sleet
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thanks!

jaunty compass
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so happy about it

arctic eagle
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Hmm

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I need to hide the Book of Fuck better

turbid oracle
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what

arctic eagle
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an Artefact

cobalt hemlock
dire saddle
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ohno

paper nimbus
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oh no

cobalt hemlock
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he told me to screenshot this

jolly patrol
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oh no

cobalt hemlock
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i must now delete this

jolly patrol
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n o u

cobalt hemlock
turbid oracle
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oh yes

dire saddle
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pig x fris

turbid oracle
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Norbert

dire saddle
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pig on fris action

paper nimbus
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OTP

turbid oracle
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He's been under my tree since the start of this server, I had a pig named Norbert on literally all my survival worlds since 2011

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he got kidnaped by some cows today but it's fine

dire saddle
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he joined his kind

cobalt hemlock
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frisout confirmed furry

jolly patrol
turbid oracle
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pigs got no fur

cobalt hemlock
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yes they do

dire saddle
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pigs have hair

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they're quite furry

cobalt hemlock
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they got hair

dire saddle
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you just can't see it normally

turbid oracle
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ohno

dire saddle
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they're fuzzy

cobalt hemlock
tiny tartan
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@cobalt hemlock, you're making me want to create a new skin lol.

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I haven't made a new one, in ages.

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My current skin, I actually created in 2015 or so - I just never used it.

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Hmm, I do have an even older skin I made, which copied Rune (g) from RuneScape's armour. Might edit that to be regular Rune.

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It has a fury amulet, too.

cobalt hemlock
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hah

fickle dagger
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I think the hardcore survival world should have pvp. But idk if anyone would play it if that’s the case

gusty cobalt
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There‘s a second survival world?

fickle dagger
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Kaz is looking into it

gusty cobalt
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Or is the normal one hardcore

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But why do we need two survival worlds? That just means that players will be split up more

glass sleet
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We don't.

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I'm only looking into it because it would be a way to reset and create a "tough" survival experience

gusty cobalt
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But wouldn‘t it be possible to just increase the toughness of the normal survival world?

dire saddle
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pls don't

tiny tartan
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@cobalt hemlock It's this:
http://oldschoolrunescape.wikia.com/wiki/Rune_platebody_(g) (This has the full armour shown.)
http://oldschoolrunescape.wikia.com/wiki/Team-16_cape (A custom mixture of the team-11 to team-20 capes.)
http://oldschoolrunescape.wikia.com/wiki/Amulet_of_Fury
http://oldschoolrunescape.wikia.com/wiki/Yellow_boots
http://oldschoolrunescape.wikia.com/wiki/Yellow_gloves


And um, @fickle dagger and @gusty cobalt, Kaz was considering a third world, as a "serious" survival world, with heavy restrictions on goofing around and whatnot. That's all it really was. People like me would likely play there instead, because I'm not a fan of the chaotic rubbish that happens in the current survival world. It's why I didn't setup a place with you guys at spawn.

glass sleet
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yeah but normal survival is already very borked

tiny tartan
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^

glass sleet
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which is fine, casual survival is ok, but this is a more serious (and therefore, more vanilla-ish) option

arctic eagle
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Hmm, I'd probably make a potato farm there

gusty cobalt
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I personally wouldn‘t mind a tougher world but I don‘t wanna play on two worlds, what if you‘d make it so that the current world is tougher the further away you get from 0/y/0. that way, people can kinda set their own difficulty. I‘m sure there‘s a plugin for that or something similar

tiny tartan
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That's not...

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.<

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That's not what it means at all.

fickle dagger
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I know I’m super in the minority on what I want but I’ll probably stay where the most people are playing

tiny tartan
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Kaz was considering a third world, as a "serious" survival world, with heavy restrictions on goofing around and whatnot. That's all it really was. People like me would likely play there instead, because I'm not a fan of the chaotic rubbish that happens in the current survival world. It's why I didn't setup a place with you guys at spawn.
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It's not a difficulty factor.

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You guys cause too much chaos and whatnot.

arctic eagle
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Hmm, can we set different tick rates on different worlds?

tiny tartan
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Yes

arctic eagle
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Great, I fully support the implementation of a third world

fickle dagger
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Have you ever played a survival server that wasn’t chaos? That is multiplayer survival

tiny tartan
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Yes

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Lol

glass sleet
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i mean yeah imma make it harder, but it's more of a way to reset without wiping out everything everyone did so far. Plus those who don't want to play serious PvE will be able to just play on the existing world. But yes, I do agree it is spreading players pretty thin

tiny tartan
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The server I played from 2013 to 2017 was serious.

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There was no griefing, no chaos, no random spawning crap.

fickle dagger
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I mean I’m not moving unless keep inv is off and PvP is on

tiny tartan
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People actually played Minecraft.

gusty cobalt
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what if you‘d make a shared inventory between those two, so that you can kinda choose which one ? Cause like I said, I‘d love a tougher experience but I don‘t wanna lose all of my progress, considering how much fucking quarz I farmed. Although I guess that could be abused so forget it

glass sleet
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Shared inventory is exactly what I want to avoid here.

tiny tartan
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^

fickle dagger
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See all the spawning and griefing could be stopped if certain people didn’t have perms. It’s really only a few people

gusty cobalt
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Yeah I realized that halfway through

paper nimbus
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I mean, after that one night where everyone was killed multiple times by godmode weapons, I'm burnt out on "goofing around"

glass sleet
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^^^^^^

paper nimbus
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but I'm sticking on the world we have anyway

tiny tartan
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^

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Wot

gusty cobalt
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I‘d be ok with a world where people actually play minecraft though

paper nimbus
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sorry

tiny tartan
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No that was an Up to kaz

paper nimbus
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yeah I know

fickle dagger
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Let’s round up all the mother hecking op gear and throw it into a volcano

glass sleet
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Outside of actual admin-restricted tasks, godmode weapons should not exist.

gusty cobalt
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And yeah, imo way too many people have op and use it for stupid shit

fickle dagger
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And put the potato on display

paper nimbus
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Nobody has OP now

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Literally nobody

gusty cobalt
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Good

fickle dagger
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No one has OP but people have OP gear still

glass sleet
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a few people have helper, and i think a couple have mod

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and yeah, we need to round up the op gear at some point.

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i plan on doing a sweep through

paper nimbus
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Helper doesn't do nothing (yet, that's on the roadmap)

tiny tartan
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I think Wooper and I are the only ones with uber gear right now, and we don't abuse it. Mine is just leftover from testing.

gusty cobalt
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Like, completely clear everything?

glass sleet
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it does now

paper nimbus
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Oh, nice

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/dmarker?

glass sleet
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yep

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sorry about that. i messed up and removed the wrong node by accident lol

paper nimbus
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Fantastic, time to update the map then

fickle dagger
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Woop, you, I think there are two other people with OP swords, and there might be one set of OP armor

glass sleet
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@gusty cobalt No, not clear everything. Just blatantly overpowered items

gusty cobalt
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Great

glass sleet
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(e.g. things not possible in vanilla)

fickle dagger
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Weapons with X level enchantments and shit

paper nimbus
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maybe also just wipe MythicDrops' customItems.yml 👀

glass sleet
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enchanted potatoes

fickle dagger
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The potato needs to be a walled off monument

tiny tartan
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I'm extremely against PvP, and I'm bloody terrible at it. So.. um. I'd really like to be able to quickly get rid of an offender if they target me.

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<.<

arctic eagle
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Yup

fickle dagger
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Keep inv is on so I mean you don’t really need to

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if they kill you enough people will tell them to fuck off

arctic eagle
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Like I said, If I really need to get rid of it, I'll eat the potato

gusty cobalt
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Yeah if someone kills you just report them to kaz and do /back

fickle dagger
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I mean killing is fine but don’t be a bully

glass sleet
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^ this is the golden rule of the server.

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Don't be a dick

gusty cobalt
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Killing isn‘t fine just randomly

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Imo

paper nimbus
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^

gusty cobalt
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It‘d be very annoying to just get killed by someone without any warning

fickle dagger
#

I am an outlier on my opinions though I’m mainly a factions player so

turbid oracle
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Wait did some people already got helper/mod?

tiny tartan
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LeJet is also a factions player.

fickle dagger
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To quote rick & morty “I just love killin”

glass sleet
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@turbid oracle most people who had it before have it now

arctic eagle
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I, uh, built bases on PvP servers

paper nimbus
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Joey and I were "game night helpers" in discord to begin with, so (I think) we have some minor permissions

tiny tartan
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^

turbid oracle
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What did I get?

gusty cobalt
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Well, if kaz is thinking about adding another world, how about we just purge the current one of all OP and cheated stuff, make it clear that it‘s survival, take away keepinventory and all that to make it more vanilla and then make a second world for pvp that has weekly resets or something like that

fickle dagger
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I think that’ll piss people off

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We don’t want to kill the server

turbid oracle
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I would really hate it if everyone moves to a new world just now that I made quite some progress on my tree

arctic eagle
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Yeah, a lot of work has gone into the current world

tiny tartan
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I used to play an old factions server called Octocraft, I think.. something like that. I joined for the "thrill" of avoiding being murked, and learning how to properly defend myself in PvP. I can't stand PvP, but I knew if I played Mc servers I would need to learn. That said, it turned out to be useless since the server I called 'home' from 2013 to 2017 was mostly anti-PvP as well.

fickle dagger
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Factions is why I build strictly underground lol

gusty cobalt
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Yeah, see, I love the idea of a tough survival world but it‘ll mean that I will have to split my time, which is bad, and also that the players will be split.

arctic eagle
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Heh, I just stayed nice and cosy in my base and if someone came by, I could defend myself well enough

gusty cobalt
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But yeah factions would be neat too

arctic eagle
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I'm just not very aggressive

tiny tartan
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^

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I keep to myself, unless someone bugs me.

turbid oracle
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Same

paper nimbus
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There's literally no reason to be aggressive, we're all friends lmao

fickle dagger
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We don’t have enough players to properly faction and I think 1 or 2 people would just dominate everyone else tbh

paper nimbus
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If someone needs something they can ask and someone else will usually help

turbid oracle
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I don't even think most of us will join factions

gusty cobalt
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I mostly played on rp survival/building or minigames servers but I‘d love to try faction stuff. But then everyone has to be kinda serious about it

tiny tartan
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smuggles OP armour and weapons into factions

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becomes god

turbid oracle
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Banned

gusty cobalt
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Yeah and if we do factions we don‘t need ultra tryhards like deluxer said

fickle dagger
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you don’t have to be serious in factions you just need to be able to pvp and know how to build hard to raid buildings

gusty cobalt
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Well he didn‘t say that but you know the aggressive part

paper nimbus
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We share a sentiment

fickle dagger
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Factions only works if you have aggressive tryhards otherwise it’s just pve with land claiming

turbid oracle
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I like building great stuff

gusty cobalt
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I mean serious as in seriously play factions and not just troll, fooling around a bit and all that is fine

turbid oracle
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Not building stuff that keeps others out

tiny tartan
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Cobble used to have a higher blast resistance to other normal building blocks. That's not the case now, but I used to use it exclusively because it was that much more difficult to destroy.

paper nimbus
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Still resists fire charges and such, right?

fickle dagger
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Now it’s all about multi layer obsidian and lava walls

paper nimbus
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Just not TnT

gusty cobalt
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I mean ofc we need pvp tryhard but there‘s faction pvp and there‘s megatryhard pvp

fickle dagger
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I don’t see a difference

gusty cobalt
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megatryhard is shit like spawncamping for an hour

paper nimbus
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for factions to be interesting, someone has to go "I want to seriously compete", but not necessarily "I fucking hate your guts"

gusty cobalt
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Just as long as it‘s overall still fun for everyone you know

fickle dagger
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Yeah that’s how you raid, one person watches the spawn point the other person loots

gusty cobalt
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Of course murder them when you see em and take their stuff

turbid oracle
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@glass sleet is there a list of who got helper and who got mod, and what abilities the ranks hold?

paper nimbus
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Brb

fickle dagger
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True deluxer true, again don’t be a bully but you do need to be aggressive

paper nimbus
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/warp staff?

gusty cobalt
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Yeah i mean that

glass sleet
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There will be very soon

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/warp staff is out of date

turbid oracle
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Way out of date

gusty cobalt
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What deluxer said is what I was trying to say this whole time

glass sleet
tiny tartan
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Anywho. Back to the original topic:
I have two opinions, that depend on things.

  1. I'd be all for the creation of a third world, for "serious" no goofing off survival. No chaos, no PvP, etc. Just playing legitimate minecraft, as it was intended.
  2. If this would split the community too much, then I'd rather have the current survival world made into the above. I want to play minecraft, not chaotic anarchycraft.
cobalt hemlock
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can i bring my opinion on this in?

tiny tartan
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Yup, that's what this discussion is for.

gusty cobalt
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Sure you can

cobalt hemlock
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my opinion is that a thrid survival would be great for users who want to do that, and that the survival world now should be kept as is (with maybe /gamemode 3 enabled)
because i like goofing around in survival

fickle dagger
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I don’t understand what you mean by chaos. What’s chaotic about what’s going on. If we remove the op stuff it’s basically regular Minecraft aside from the plugins

gusty cobalt
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@tiny tartan I agree with what you said, but in my opinion the second option is the better one. What I would add to it is that we still make a second world and use that one for faction pvp with maybe a monthy reset

cobalt hemlock
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but i like goofing around, and so do a lot of people.

gusty cobalt
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The first option is nice too but now you guys really made me want to try faction pvp

tiny tartan
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The link ^

fickle dagger
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Again I’m missing the issue. PvP basically doesn’t happen and everyone seems dedicated

tiny tartan
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It happened to an extreme excess before you joined.

fickle dagger
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Also PvP is default for survival. That is the intent tbh

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Ah I see

cobalt hemlock
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yeah
the chaos is annoying, i agree.
but that doesnt mean we should take away the entire goofing around aspect
just make a new survival world for players who want to do that, and remove the OP weapons from non-moderator members for good measure

tiny tartan
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People were running around like a chicken with their head cut off, spawning mobs, spawning items, killing people at random, spaming chat with caps and profanity 24/7.

cobalt hemlock
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yeah

tiny tartan
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That, is chaos.

cobalt hemlock
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i remember a little bit of that

fickle dagger
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Again. That was bad mods not the general populace

gusty cobalt
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What a weird time

cobalt hemlock
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but it has calmed down considerably now

tiny tartan
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^

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I still have PTSD from that time.

gusty cobalt
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Is anyone actually using the creative world right now anyway?

turbid oracle
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Is the atlas divistion forum even still being used?

gusty cobalt
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Sometimes

turbid oracle
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why is all the information in a topic there?

tiny tartan
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Because Kaz owns it.

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Kaz runs that forum.

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<.<

gusty cobalt
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And there it‘s easier available than in here

glass sleet
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I run the forum, and it's very easily accessible there (and allows voting/discussion)

cobalt hemlock
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so i think we should just have a second world for the people who like the hardcore aspect of survival, and leave the normal survival world mostly alone, apart from measures to reduce choas more.

turbid oracle
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and skeleton king

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something needs to be done about skeleton king

tiny tartan
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Skeleton king was nerfed, as with all mobs.

cobalt hemlock
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yes
those overpowered mobs should be reduced

gusty cobalt
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Would that second world have game mechancs changing plugins disabled?

cobalt hemlock
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aha

turbid oracle
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nerfed

glass sleet
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All mobs have been nerfed heavily.

sterile plinth
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Well this place is going on fire!

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continue

tiny tartan
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We're discussing the NMS Discord Minecraft server.

sterile plinth
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I noticed

dire saddle
sterile plinth
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Pretty much.

cobalt hemlock
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i imagine that could be voted on @gusty cobalt

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if i recall correctly plugins can be enabled and disabled for different worlds

tiny tartan
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@sterile plinth Skip, Spirit, Clover, and many others play. You should too, lol.

sterile plinth
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Maybe I should

jaunty compass
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I would play but I really havent had any motivation to

gusty cobalt
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So, here‘s the main suggestions I gathered so far, I might be missing one though:

-2 survival worlds, one like it is now and a new one more tougher and vanilla where you‘d either have pvp or not (still up for debate)
-2 survival worlds, one faction pvp with resets and the current one either leaving like it is or making it tougher and enforcing rules more strictly
-just changing the current one into a tougher world without adding a new one

cobalt hemlock
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i vote for suggestion number one tbh

tiny tartan
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Tougher, meaning strict/serious. Not minecraft difficulty.

glass sleet
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by the way a quick privilege rundown was added to the thread

cobalt hemlock
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yes, but cant we have a little place to mess around with on survival without the insane seriousness?

gusty cobalt
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And to that I would add one more, being that imo (and I could be way off there) we don‘t need a creative world, so we could make the current one into a creative map, make a new tougher survival map and then adding a third map where we have faction pvp with a monthly or biweekly reset

turbid oracle
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no

gusty cobalt
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Maybe not make it full creative but just survival with privileges

turbid oracle
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defenitly no

tiny tartan
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I'd call the messing around insane, and the seriousness perfectly normal. But to each their own.

turbid oracle
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don't make the current one creative

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I spent way too long on my tree while survival, definitly don't want that world to suddenly become creative

cobalt hemlock
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i have to disagree with you on this one @tiny tartan

tiny tartan
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Yup.

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A lot of people do.

gusty cobalt
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Well right now it almost is, with keepinventory on, people still having op stuff the only limit is item count and flight

cobalt hemlock
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its honestly not that choatic
and OP items should be removed

turbid oracle
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how does keepinventory = creative

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the world really is far from creative right now

gusty cobalt
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Dying has no consequences other than exp loss

glass sleet
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(which is a bug)

turbid oracle
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(but it's fine)

gusty cobalt
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You can just /back and you didn‘t lose anything but maybe 30secs

cobalt hemlock
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that is true

jaunty compass
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I mean thats not creative tho

glass sleet
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yeah. death is at most a minor inconvenience.

jaunty compass
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^

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which I like

glass sleet
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So let me explain my rationale behind a separate world real fast, because I think there's some confusion.

gusty cobalt
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And once I mourn the time I spent farming quarz that I now will have to refarm in the tougher world, I would be totally up for a more strict and vanilla one

turbid oracle
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if you fell in lava

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everything is still lost if you /back

dire saddle
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*java

cobalt hemlock
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fris please

gusty cobalt
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Yeah

cobalt hemlock
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let kaz explain for a bit

glass sleet
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The separate world is going to be a different game. There will be no /back, there will be no keep inventory.

gusty cobalt
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Thats why you avoid lava

turbid oracle
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I replied to Aster

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sorry

glass sleet
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This is what I mean by "strict" and "tougher"

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It's going to end OP items and everything, yes, but it's also going to be a more difficult game.

dire saddle
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more vanilla pls yes

gusty cobalt
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Yes

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So much

dire saddle
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i don't like all the plugins and gubbins

gusty cobalt
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We also don‘t need mcmmo skills and those fancy mobs in the tough one

paper nimbus
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mythic plugins have been a flop

cobalt hemlock
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yeah

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i agree

glass sleet
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OP items are over no matter what. The problem is, I can't undo everything done by OP items so far. There are builds in creative, there are all sorts of things that can't just be wished away like op items.

paper nimbus
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I don't mind McMMO as much

turbid oracle
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I agree that quite some plugins currently are just stupid, like the bosses

cobalt hemlock
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^

dire saddle
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i don't like the McMMO

cobalt hemlock
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they also, when you manage to kill them, give insane loot

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mcmmo is kinda funny, but it doesnt do much for me

gusty cobalt
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Yeah mcmmo is kinda ok, but some of it could be unfair. And I hate grinding

turbid oracle
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like a stack of iron swords

arctic eagle
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I've killed a good few bosses and they only gave me a bit

glass sleet
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In all honesty, MythicMobs is good, but it needs to be actually balanced.

dire saddle
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it just clogs up the chat and offers almost no good benefits besides having to click right click overy so often and be annoying

gusty cobalt
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And getting double drops

glass sleet
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I tried some to bring it back into sane limits, but there's still a lot to go

turbid oracle
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Kaz, with the current boss thing, you don't search bosses, bosses search you

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they are russian

glass sleet
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Yeah. Spawnrates need to be further nerfed. They're still too high.

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Bosses should be very rare events

cobalt hemlock
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^

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instead of "not again"

paper nimbus
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Doesn't help that the way MysticMobs' spawn system works literally drops them on top of players

gusty cobalt
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And maybe improve the items dropped, right now it‘s just trash but I think you can make them drop really rare stuff

arctic eagle
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I've been wanting to encounter more but they don't show up underground....

glass sleet
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Yeah, I might just kill MythicMobs entirely actually until a better config is found/built

gusty cobalt
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Oh and please enable tnt and creeper griefing too

turbid oracle
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or atleast make creepers deal damage again

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currently they don't harm anyone

gusty cobalt
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But if someone blows up another persons base on purpose it‘s instaban

turbid oracle
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or anything

cobalt hemlock
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tnt is useful for miing

paper nimbus
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Health damage, definitely - block damage, ehhhhhh; multiple times I've had them blow up in my face after respawning

cobalt hemlock
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just dont use it to explode the whole spawn village

jaunty compass
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I agree with dogluxer

gusty cobalt
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Well I‘m talking about the tougher world right now

paper nimbus
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TNT damage is a separate variable and should be turned on

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Oh tougher world? Yeah

jaunty compass
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yea tougher world def

cobalt hemlock
#

ooooh

mint spear
#

#minecraft

turbid oracle
#

we need this

paper nimbus
mint spear
#

ATLAS

cobalt hemlock
#

about the tougher world, i would definitely try it sometime, but i think i myself would rather stay on the "normal/easy mode" minecraft

gusty cobalt
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Yeah we don‘t need #minecraft this is a nms server

cobalt hemlock
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^

jaunty compass
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^

dire saddle
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v

turbid oracle
jaunty compass
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nice job skip

mint spear
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The only thing i don't get is why we are specificly focusing on Minecraft, is there something going on ?

dire saddle
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there's a minecraft server

jaunty compass
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^

gusty cobalt
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And just to ask, can we have 4 worlds in total? @glass sleet cause even with a tougher world I‘d still love it if we could get some sort of monthly or even biweekly faction pvp map together

mint spear
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I know, but where like NMS focused and now it's MC outta nowhere

dire saddle
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why so many worlds

cobalt hemlock
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not really zentrey, we just have a minecraft server people think should be changed a bit

gusty cobalt
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Like, in terms of technical limitations

glass sleet
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@gusty cobalt I like the idea, but I fear that will spread our users way too thin

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We don't have many

gusty cobalt
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Because a lot of people want different things

turbid oracle
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dude, 4 worlds that's even more spread

jaunty compass
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like ultra hardcore event?

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those are fun

paper nimbus
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I don't often agree with Taco, but the occasional event could be fun

gusty cobalt
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Do we even need the creative? Just delete the creative in favour of factionpvp

paper nimbus
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Creative building or a day of factions

jaunty compass
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whos taco

mint spear
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factionPvP is nice

gusty cobalt
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Or make it events yeah

mint spear
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I only still don't get the claiming lands part

turbid oracle
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there are like 3 to 7 people online which currently all are in the same world but I still think splitting that would really harm the activity in both worlds

gusty cobalt
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But that‘d be harder to balance and get together than a continuous faction pvp world

turbid oracle
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untill everyone just stops playing because there is nobody in their world

dire saddle
#

how many people do you think are playing lol

jaunty compass
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check the map

paper nimbus
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4 online currently, probably like...12 in total, with varying degrees of activity?

gusty cobalt
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I‘d say in total about 10-15

dire saddle
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i wasn't asking for a literal answer smh

paper nimbus
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oh

gusty cobalt
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Sunday there were like 8/9 people online

paper nimbus
#

🤦

dire saddle
#

i'm saying you're asking for 4 different worlds when there's not even a dozen people playing

turbid oracle
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split that across 2 survival worlds and the activity is dead

gusty cobalt
#

Yeah I don‘t like it either but people want so many different things without compromise

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I think we could make it two, the current one and a tough faction pvp map

turbid oracle
#

all I want is the server to not die

gusty cobalt
#

But yeah...

dire saddle
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then that's their problem akkoShrug

jaunty compass
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cant please everyone

turbid oracle
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which I'm afraid of will happen if we all spread

gusty cobalt
#

Yeah that‘s a valid concern

cobalt hemlock
#

yeah

dire saddle
#

if the server is still actively played on within a month i'd be extremely surprised

paper nimbus
#

Grand plans for small things (often) equal certain, slow death

gusty cobalt
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No plans equal the same tho

turbid oracle
#

indeed, even this whole discussion is making this server way more serious than it was supposed to be for how small it is

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I agree with Deluxer there

cobalt hemlock
#

^

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i meant the first one fris said

dire saddle
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i thought it was just gonna be a plain ol' vanilla MC server for us to have fun with

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then you add a zillion plugins and want 50 worlds thonk

turbid oracle
#

exactly

paper nimbus
#

well...I mean, all I've been doing recently is building rail networks

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and that's fun as hell for some reason

turbid oracle
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we are simply taking it all too big

cobalt hemlock
#

i have been managing my tavern and have just been dicking around lol

tiny tartan
#

I kinda.. um, I'm a bit on @mint spear's side. Whilst the server is dedicated to the NMS Discord community, we might need a dedicated channel lol.

#

We're spamming.

dire saddle
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it's not big enough to warrant a seperate channel

turbid oracle
#

also with the whole moderator/staff thing. isn't that just too big plans for such a small server

gusty cobalt
#

But see, I feel like faction pvp with resets would increase the lifetime of the server cause right now we have 0 resets planned as far as I know and sometime soon the first people will just have everything and stop playing. Resets and pvp solve that issue

dire saddle
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if you really want you can move over to #bot-spam or something

jaunty compass
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im not a fan of faction pvp tbh

paper nimbus
#

we already "have everything", the interesting part is doing stuff

mint spear
#

I'm losing the NMS vibe in this server

jaunty compass
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or resets

dire saddle
#

if it resets i'll just be done

turbid oracle
#

most of the people in this server are buildings

cobalt hemlock
#

fris, are you able to go online now?
i could help you with the interior of your tree.

jaunty compass
#

yea exactly skip

turbid oracle
#

actually no Rando

dire saddle
#

if all my work is erased i don't want to do it again 😛

cobalt hemlock
#

oh ok

gusty cobalt
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I‘m not saying we need resets in the current world, god I‘d hate that

glass sleet
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there will definitely not be resets in the current world. we're taking away op gear, but resets are not happening

jaunty compass
#

rip woops potato

gusty cobalt
#

I‘m saying that factionpvp would in my opinion not damage the server if we only have 2 maps and factionpvp needs resets, even if they are sparse, just to stay exciting

arctic eagle
#

Do let me know when you want to take away OP gear. I'm super curious as to what'll happen if I eat it

dire saddle
#

any splitting of the playerbase will kill it

glass sleet
#

I'll assume you hid it

arctic eagle
#

In my belly

dire saddle
#

granted i'm just building my own place really far away but still

gusty cobalt
#

Exactly

turbid oracle
#

exactly I'm still super against a split

jaunty compass
#

I need to get on and do that

turbid oracle
#

since it will certainly kill the server

jaunty compass
#

build far away

gusty cobalt
#

Well no split at all is almost impossible because several people want a tougher experience with stricter and more vanilla gameplay

#

I‘m just saying that we make that split in a way that it doesn‘t separate the playerbase by adding incentive to play on both worlds.

#

A pve one and a pvp one

#

If we just get two pve worlds with different difficulties itms deffinitely gonna be a hard split

jaunty compass
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Im not a pvp fan

turbid oracle
#

I'm not a pvp focus fan

gusty cobalt
#

Then there‘s still the one we have now

turbid oracle
#

but I like that it's possible in the current world

gusty cobalt
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That‘s why I‘m saying two worlds

turbid oracle
#

seriously the current one has no pvp focus at all

gusty cobalt
#

Yeah

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Exactly

turbid oracle
#

so what will be the difference

dire saddle
#

i don't like pvp

gusty cobalt
#

Pve and pvp map

turbid oracle
#

but people don't currently use the pvp

dire saddle
#

there you go, half the people playing don't even like pvp 😛

gusty cobalt
#

One where there‘s an active focus on faction pvp

turbid oracle
#

make that the new world then

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not the current one

dire saddle
#

can you have factions with like only 4 people?

turbid oracle
#

no

#

simply no

gusty cobalt
#

That‘s what I‘ve been saying this whole time fris

dire saddle
tiny tartan
#

Can we just disable PvP, remove OP items, and allow minor goofing around without having to create another world? No changes needed other than being a tiny bit stricter, and disabling PvP.

turbid oracle
#

exactly

tiny tartan
#

I'm okay with some goofiness.

turbid oracle
#

no new world

#

it's the death of the server

dire saddle
#

those things sound fine

gusty cobalt
#

Yeah

arctic eagle
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Yup

tiny tartan
#

Yay! An agreement lol.

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@glass sleet

turbid oracle
#

agreed to not make a new world?

cobalt hemlock
#

honestly i dont want to be involved with any of this world splitting and stuff
as long as the current survival world keeps existing and doesnt change too much (agreed flan) im fine

gusty cobalt
#

An agreement to make the current one at least minimally tougher

dire saddle
#

it's not tougher, just more vanilla

gusty cobalt
#

Well yeah

cobalt hemlock
#

keepinventory off sounds like a good first start to me lol

gusty cobalt
#

it does

arctic eagle
#

First off, I think we should decrease the tick thing

gusty cobalt
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And maybe remove /back

turbid oracle
#

that too

gusty cobalt
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And that

cobalt hemlock
#

and that

arctic eagle
#

Just my own personal tripe with it

gusty cobalt
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Just make it more vanilla and stricter

turbid oracle
#

sure

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but no new world I would like to keep the server alive

tiny tartan
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Decreasing tick back to vanilla (3) is definitely helpful for a lot of things - server side, especially.

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High tick speed eats up cpu power.

turbid oracle
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I remember the times it was like 300

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insane

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let's not do that again

paper nimbus
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INSTACROPS

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but yeah

glass sleet
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that, by the way, will also make bosses really rare

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which i guess is a good plus

tiny tartan
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^

arctic eagle
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Oh

turbid oracle
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cool

arctic eagle
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I'll have to reserve some potatoes

gusty cobalt
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Well you can always retweak the plugin again to make it balanced

glass sleet
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I can, yeah.

arctic eagle
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And extend the farm...

turbid oracle
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Glad we came to an aggreement

cobalt hemlock
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^

tiny tartan
glass sleet
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Already on the forum post 🙂

tiny tartan
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Okay

glass sleet
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So we want to disable PVP as well?

tiny tartan
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I vote yes. <.<

arctic eagle
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I would like that

paper nimbus
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Honestly? yeah

gusty cobalt
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Yeah

paper nimbus
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no good reason for PVP right now, it literally just creates further conflict

gusty cobalt
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^^

tiny tartan
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^

glass sleet
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alright, added to proposed changes

turbid oracle
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Sure

dire saddle
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no pvp pls

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nopvpls

glass sleet
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Look good to everyone?

turbid oracle
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I could no longer hit someone for a small joke but that doesn't weigh against the things it fixes so, yea disable

tiny tartan
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Re-enable TNT and creeper damage

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Wot

gusty cobalt
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Yes

tiny tartan
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searches through chat

gusty cobalt
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But punish griefing hardly

dire saddle
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i want creepers to actually be creepers and blow stuff up

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they're dumb otherwise

gusty cobalt
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Like, ban style hardly

tiny tartan
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Okay, I'd be okay if griefers got banned.

gusty cobalt
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Hardly is the wrong word for that isn‘t it

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Damn

paper nimbus
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harshly

cobalt hemlock
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teh only thing i dont entirely agree with is the diabling of the /back command
but its okay if most of the people want that lol

gusty cobalt
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I mean strictly

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Yeah or harshly

dire saddle
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strarshlicly

tiny tartan
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I like having '/back', but... it makes sense if we're trying to make it more vanilla-ish.

arctic eagle
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Vanillish

gusty cobalt
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We already have /sethome

cobalt hemlock
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yeah

gusty cobalt
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Use that if you think you‘re about to die

paper nimbus
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crap, now I have to dump my stuff in a chest before jumping into the void to restore my hunger

dire saddle
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/back is called have a bed be close to where you died

turbid oracle
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We need to make it a rule that you must clean up any creeper holes you make at spawn

tiny tartan
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^

gusty cobalt
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Yeah that too

glass sleet
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I might honestly just disable explosions in spawn in general

paper nimbus
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Or...we could light up and fence off spawn

gusty cobalt
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Or that

dire saddle
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that seems easier

cobalt hemlock
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yeah

arctic eagle
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Yup, that's probably better

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A guy only has so much dirt, you know?

gusty cobalt
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We need to start making stuff mob proof

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I have a lot of diet

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Dirt

cobalt hemlock
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a lot of diet

paper nimbus
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this is why my house is entirely underground

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instantly protected

cobalt hemlock
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my tavern is pretty well protected i geuss

gusty cobalt
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Yeah I‘ll need to light out my stuff to make creepers spawn less

cobalt hemlock
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it wont stand a creeper nuke, but yeah

paper nimbus
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is using a mod like MoreOverlays cheating to see where mobs spawn?

gusty cobalt
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If we reenable tnt I‘ll also finally be able to use explosive mining

glass sleet
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eh i honestly don't care too much

dire saddle
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CHEATER /s

paper nimbus
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Because otherwise I'm just going to cover every square inch with torches, yeah

cobalt hemlock
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also, if we enable explosions i want to make a secret nuke testing facility in the desert

glass sleet
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oh you mean light overlays?

paper nimbus
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ye

glass sleet
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yeah no light overlays are totally fine

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you have access to them in debug mode

arctic eagle
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Skeletons make me want to die

gusty cobalt
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You do?

cobalt hemlock
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i know how to make nuke
unless updates screwed that up

arctic eagle
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Then they provide it

gusty cobalt
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Oh

paper nimbus
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well, then, I can totally recommend MoreOverlays to help light up and secure buildings

gusty cobalt
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Debug mode != F3

glass sleet
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Debug mode == F3

tiny tartan
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Speaking of client-side mods, I still need to update some of my old ones.

gusty cobalt
glass sleet
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Light level is listed in F3

dire saddle
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aster why did you say not equal aeyes

paper nimbus
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all the yellow Xs are where mobs will spawn at night

cobalt hemlock
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also please remove static sheep
they dont do anything except for make a shitton of noise

turbid oracle
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Yes they don't fight back

arctic eagle
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...static sheep

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Just kill them

gusty cobalt
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Yeah I gotta download that too, I was trying to use it constantly cause I always played modpacks before and didn‘t know that it‘s not a vanilla feature

cobalt hemlock
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but what if you cant find them

arctic eagle
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They're static...

cobalt hemlock
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statically charged

turbid oracle
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He means electric

arctic eagle
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What

turbid oracle
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One of the bosses

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But they don't fight

arctic eagle
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What

turbid oracle
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They just spawn thunder

paper nimbus
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They're electrically charged, so they electrocute things around them at random

arctic eagle
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Oh my good God, I just installed faithful and holy shit everything looks so smooth

paper nimbus
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YES

cobalt hemlock
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and they just make a shitton fo noise everywhere

paper nimbus
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i'm pretty sure one's living right now actually

tiny tartan
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Also, um. @glass sleet, how might you combat people using a "see-through" texture pack? The only way I ever found to do it, was lurk in spectator mode around the suspected individuals. Unlike X-ray, it's completely undetectable since it doesn't inject/read anything in the game. It just uses the same arguments any old texture pack uses, but with tonnes and tonnes of cullface lines to make certain blocks act like glass.

glass sleet
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I could use orebfuscator, but i would just really hope nobody actually uses that on the server.

turbid oracle
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I'd say bettermc is better than faithful. They made vanilla HD but I a different way. They just added depth to the pixels

arctic eagle
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Ah yes, Xray packs

cobalt hemlock
arctic eagle
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How am I supposed to protect a place when people can see through walls 😓

paper nimbus
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Oh, wait, forgot one thing

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Consensus on the spectator mode changes?

tiny tartan
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Yes please

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I love spectator

glass sleet
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The only reason I'm hesitating there is because of the capability to abuse and look underground, etc

cobalt hemlock
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yeah, but there was a way to enable colissions in spectator iirc

tiny tartan
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Well, I just like lurking in it and watching people play.

cobalt hemlock
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lol yeah

glass sleet
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there is no known way to enable collisions in spectate mode

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if you can find one, please send it to me

tiny tartan
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^

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I know you can disable chunk generation for spectators.

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That's it.

paper nimbus
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^

dire saddle
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v

tiny tartan
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And I disabled that.

paper nimbus
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It looks like 1.9 had some issues with cross-compatibility that caused spectators to collide on older servers

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Other than that, I can't find anything

turbid oracle
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But ehm, can't people in gamemode 3 fly to high stuff and then go gamemode 0 again?

paper nimbus
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That's their own damn fault

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Oh

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🤦

tiny tartan
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insert ender pearls

turbid oracle
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I meant as a way to cheat

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Hhm

paper nimbus
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sorry, yeah, I thought you mean committing suicide by spectator mode

gusty cobalt
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oh yeah gm3 would have to be disabled if we want to go more towards vanilla imo

turbid oracle
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Nah suicide is their own fault

tiny tartan
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Ender pearls already make "cheating" to get to high places a bit redundant.

paper nimbus
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Also, a couple stacks of dirt or cobble negate any height differences

glass sleet
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I might make gamemode switches require you be at spawn

paper nimbus
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That's a clever trick

tiny tartan
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I'd like that.

gusty cobalt
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so, would anyone mind telling me the name of the better food mod and of the mod that allows you to see spawn places?

paper nimbus
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AppleSkin, MoreOverlays

tiny tartan
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^

gusty cobalt
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ty

tiny tartan
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AppleSkin is amazing.

gusty cobalt
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do I need a modloader or something for those or can i just put them into minecraft