its not about that
#off-topic-bond-james-bond
mint spear
honest basalt
When you play a game, you get 8-20+ hours of play time that you can make references on and talk to friends about
pallid vine
how do you know that @acoustic dune ?
tranquil spoke
@acoustic dune they already had features implemented, they were removed for no reason
pallid vine
you expect others to have your faith?
mint spear
yeah
honest basalt
You get a lot more value out of games than movies
hallow token
I clocked in about 30 hours before quitting. So I can't complain too much. I'd probably still be playing if I hadn't ran across reddit.
cyan tendon
@honest basalt But that implies it's more than "The game is boring"
hallow token
lol.
honest basalt
If you look it at a very objective view, of course you can go into social dynamics/going with friends/etc. though
hallow token
I lost the will to play once I found out all the features I wanted wouldn't be in the game.
cyan tendon
this game doesn't have a "Then I took an arrow to the knee" catchphrase that will give it infamy in the same way that Skyrim did
honest basalt
People are just silly and like to resort to demonization extremely easy
hallow token
Like that center of the galaxy non-sense.
cyan tendon
@hallow token What wasn't in the game that you wanted?
hallow token
The fact that it's a glorified new game+ is offensive to me lol.
rocky jackal
The game is fine. I had no expectations at all. While all of you have extremely high expectations of the game due to hype.
hallow token
in-game face to face multiplayer was the primary selling point for me.
honest basalt
Yes, it's bad to misrepresent, yes it's bad things were cut, sure it's your opinion it's not what you wanted. But that doesn't mean you demonize a guy and potentially drive him away from his passion
hallow token
Even with the slim chance of it happening.
pallid vine
and if there are people out there that hate nms as it is currently you cant fault them for not being able to have faith that they will release more content
hallow token
The point was that it COULD happen. it's been solidly proven it's not.
cyan tendon
@honest basalt Min maxing arguements is the best form in this immediate zero delay no time for thought environment
tranquil spoke
the thing people don't seem to get is that the features that are missing are insanely easy to implement
hallow token
^
tranquil spoke
which leads me to believe the developers are just incredibly incompetent
rocky jackal
I'm sure Hello Games have some secrets up their sleeves. Also, they said no DLC. More stagnated patches containing content.
cyan tendon
@hallow token In game face to face multiplayer was never ever confirmed, except "a miniscule chance of it happening".
rocky jackal
Wtf?
mint spear
yep
rocky jackal
He lied.
honest basalt
If it can be proven that there was legitimate nefarious intent, then sure you have a legitimate reason to be angry. But no one can prove nefarious intent right now
pallid vine
hah if people calling out someone who lied to them is enough to "drive him away from his passion" then his passion is too weak
acoustic dune
Dudes its still an indie game. Quit hating
honest basalt
No, that wasn't a lie
tranquil spoke
@rocky jackal actually they said you would be able to see other players if you did actually meet up with someone in game
mint spear
he said well we can have free dlc, the he claimed well actually we might have to charge
cyan tendon
telling the truth on Monday and then telling the opposite on Wednesday is both telling the truth at the time.
rocky jackal
@tranquil spoke I didn't even mention about that. I mentioned about DLC. Not multiplayer. In fact, I don't give a rats ass about multiplayer.
tranquil spoke
@acoustic dune if you release a game for $60 with sony backing you i don't think you're an indie game anymore
honest basalt
He wanted there to be no paid DLC, but he later clarified that further dlc may have to be paid. And that he was 'naive' for assuming otherwise
cyan tendon
@acoustic dune Indie games are not above critical opinion
pallid vine
yeah you cant have it both ways
tranquil spoke
@rocky jackal oh that was @cyan tendon
honest basalt
It sounds, to me, that he was hopeful to provide the DLC as a service to the players, but because he's running a business he can't always do that
rocky jackal
It's an indie title with a AAA price tag @tranquil spoke
honest basalt
He said there'd still be free dlc though, just not all of it will be (potentially)
tranquil spoke
if you have a huge backer
cyan tendon
^^
hallow token
@cyan tendon "a miniscule chance of it happening". I've watche every interview Sean has been in since the announcment of the game's creation. He's said on multiple occasions word for word "You can meet up with your friends...... (always a pause. Every single time), but the chances of that happening (pause), are really slim"
acoustic dune
The problem is alot of people was to hyped and had extreme expectations
pallid vine
whose fault was that @acoustic dune ?
tranquil spoke
just removed
hallow token
Any sane human would arrive at the conclusion that it would have multiplayer. It does not.
rocky jackal
Tbh, most of the high expectation actually came from news outlets that rushed to award the game couple years before the release. That's kinda sketchy.
cyan tendon
@hallow token Yes we've all watched the same interviews. Those pregnant pauses are painful to endure more than a few times though.
tranquil spoke
i should open up the game with my debugger and see if theres even any network calls to move players around
cyan tendon
It's like he's choosing his words ultra carefully like he's under a contract or something :p
mint spear
exactly what i was saying
rocky jackal
Sony has him on a roasting skewer.
pallid vine
how?
hallow token
That's exactly what he's doing lol. Tip toeing around a strict contract that SE probably put in place.
mint spear
he did mention in a q and a a long time ago that one theres a publisher with an nda, you cant even discuss consoles
hallow token
Who knows at this point lol.
acoustic dune
Why the hell do you want multiplayer. Its boring and you can steal another ones resources.
hallow token
Because I have friends?
tranquil spoke
how is multiplayer in a vast space sim boring?
rocky jackal
Elite Dangerous is my goto multiplayer space exploration game.
tranquil spoke
exploring with another player is insanely fun
hallow token
You know, those people you hang with from time to time?
pallid vine
ok @acoustic dune are you like one of those jesus freaks that just ignore certain nasty parts of the bible?
rocky jackal
I feel Elite Dangerous is better with space exploration. And No Man's Sky is better with planet exploration.
mint spear
i also dont really care about multiplayer but its still not the point @acoustic dune
cyan tendon
@hallow token How friendly would you remain when you discover your pal has discovered, renamed and uploaded the majority of the discoveries on your shared planet?
pallid vine
its not even completely that we want multiplayer, it is that he said it would be
acoustic dune
I hate religous people, so no
hallow token
I don't do discoveries, so I wouldn't care.
mint spear
you dont buy a car and expect it to arrive at your door with no wheels and an engine
cyan tendon
@hallow token You've just declared to everyone here that you've missed the entire point of the entire game 😄
mint spear
and no engine*
pallid vine
but actually, some people would want want you mentioned, stealing someones resources could be fun
rocky jackal
@pallid vine Actually he didn't. He said you can sense other players have been on the planet, and there's a possibility of seeing another player. He didn't say multiplayer. He was very vague in fact.
hallow token
The only reason I still "try" to dip into the game is for the lore. Which is actually pretty good if you get into it.
Just because I don't tag everything I see, doesn't mean I don't like to discover new things.
honest basalt
"We want people to be aware they are in a shared universe. We added online features, and some Easter Eggs to create cool moment"
Was the actual controversial quote
hallow token
I'm not going to spend time registration every single land mark I walk across. It's time wasting.
rocky jackal
@honest basalt Exactly.
honest basalt
Which if read carefully, doesn't actually fully state there's multiplayer
pallid vine
hahah what comes to mind in any game when you are told you can see another player?
hallow token
@honest basalt In the interview with Colbert he stated specifically you could SEE other players.
Well he said characters, but still. Players is implied.
honest basalt
On twitter, he never stated you could see another player
tranquil spoke
i feel like Colbert should invite him back and call him out on his bullshit
hallow token
So that can be taken either way.
tranquil spoke
for wasting so much air time
honest basalt
We're talking about his statements on launch
cyan tendon
@hallow token it takes seconds to upload a batch of discoveries without renaming every single one. You get rewarded for finding them, and again for uploading them. The second person does not. Why would you not shoot your mate in the head so you can discover and profit, there's no sharing the first prize
pallid vine
people have already talked about examples of friends entering through a system they had discovered but didnt see any of the names that they had took the time to customize
hallow token
You get 2000 for discoveries. I make more units then that by simply landing on any random moon.
rocky jackal
Sean Murray has actually won everyone over tbh. No Man's Sky in my opinion is probably the best title of the year. Only because of the sales. And the game is beautiful. Though still my opinion stands. Elite Dangerous is good for space exploration, while No Man's Sky is good for planetary exploration.
hallow token
Find a moon, land on it, and mine it's resources for 30 minutes and you have enough millions to last until you get to the center. *I've done this, twice:"
pallid vine
won over their money?
tranquil spoke
the funny thing im noticing
is the people that enjoy the game
only like it because it looks good
karmic violet
So if someone lands on a planet ive discovered, they wont be able to see all the shit ive named?!
rocky jackal
Ok why are you complaining about the game when you're actually in a sub-reddit Discord dedicated to the game? I don't agree with that logic. People actually go batshit crazy when it comes to criticising the game. While I feel completely different about it. No need to shun someone's opinion when it's not factual.
tranquil spoke
@karmic violet they will
pallid girder
I like it and think it looks kinda horrible
honest basalt
@tranquil spoke That's not why I like the game at all
tranquil spoke
if they are in the same planet instance as you
pallid vine
no, Sean Murray allowed peoples dreams of how good a game like this could be, based off of hopes and desires for a game to be really good in the type of game by being super sketch
honest basalt
I like the game because I enjoy its experience. I do genuinely like the core experience of the game.
tranquil spoke
what is that "experience" though?
honest basalt
It could have been better/more well rounded, but I still enjoy what's there
tranquil spoke
repeating the same dozen things
for hours?
NMS is the definition of insanity
literally
hallow token
NMS's primary objective is exploration. It does a pretty good job at that.
rocky jackal
No I disagree @pallid vine ... People usually fill in the gaps of a game that has mystery.
cyan tendon
Repeating the same action expecting a different result is the definition of insanity
honest basalt
Flying around, dealing with the weather, etc.
hallow token
Until you get to your 30th planet and start seeing the exact same things over and over again lol.
honest basalt
There's more than just 'It's pretty"
mint spear
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mint spear
Good review.
pallid girder
What game don't you repeat shit over and over?
hallow token
I think it fails as an exploration game, but has great potential in other areas if they're ever implemented.
pallid vine
what mystery is there to this game now? you can swap out mystery with vague promises and that would be closer to the truth
tranquil spoke
the only argument against that is the purpose of the repetition in NMS is to explore farther
honest basalt
I feel it's weird that everyone ignores the plaques, there's a lot of interesting backstory in them
pallid girder
Pretty much all game play breaks down to repetition though
cyan tendon
Exploration games can be fun, but when you're suddenly finding things that you're actually looking for it seems a bit too scripted. Again not finding things you've spent 30 hours looking for then it's not a game any more.
pallid vine
who is ignoring anything?
hallow token
@honest basalt I agree 100%. The lore is amazing. I had an moment of awe when I found out about the "first spawn"
karmic violet
You guys are a tough crowd to please lol
mint spear
Alien ISo was a good game.
hallow token
That was a nice bit of lore there. Kept me playing for 12 hours straight just to uncover more of it.
rocky jackal
😄
honest basalt
Atlas also has its own language
Which also gets ignored
he says <spoilers> which adds a bit of context
tranquil spoke
this moon im on broke the procedural generation of stations
honest basalt
Actually no, you're wrong there.
hallow token
You can walk over the glowing lights in side of Atlas Interfaces to unlock more words. 😄
tranquil spoke
theres floating stations everywhere
cyan tendon
Is that the Alien game you spend hours hiding in lockers?
honest basalt
Monoliths don't have lore.
hallow token
I wonder how many people don't know that.
rocky jackal
You are learning new words in No Man's Sky. I think there's more to that than meets the eye.
hallow token
The best part is, they respawn after a while, so you can walk over them again, and again, and again.
pallid vine
soo the game has a backstory? what we were told is that algorithms would make a fractal like reality for everyone
hallow token
I haven't tested it, but in theorry, you may be able to unlock every single word given enough time, by simply going to a single atlas station.
cyan tendon
That's a dull game @hallow token
pallid vine
and you can continue to relearn "new" words if you will notice @tranquil spoke pointed out the other day
pallid girder
Friends not getting anymore words
hallow token
You can learn the same word twice?
tranquil spoke
yeah, you will keep learning the same word
pallid girder
Just gets a you learned nothing new
honest basalt
You can definitely learn all the words
hallow token
That's horrible. I never paid close enough attention to that.
honest basalt
If you know all the words, they literally tell you the solution in the dialogue
hallow token
lol
pallid vine
you know why? b/c they dont have a dictionary for you to look over and see how many you are missing
or what progress you are making
rocky jackal
@tranquil spoke Maybe the game is hinting something at you.
tranquil spoke
@pallid vine it's sad because that would take like 5 minutes to implement in code
hallow token
The game simply picks up a random word and throws it at you. No checks. Another possible oversight.
honest basalt
@tranquil spoke Eh, sort of.
hallow token
Probably done on purpose.
honest basalt
It gets more complicated when you involve more languages
tranquil spoke
not really
honest basalt
Especially if the character set needs to change
Then you move into unicode support...
pallid vine
and i do not know a super lot about code but i dont see how it would be hard to implement some kind of waypoint managment
honest basalt
Which is annoying
You can't handle unicode characters natively, that needs to be specifically supported
tranquil spoke
localization is a completely different thing
honest basalt
And then computations can get a bit more expensive depending on what you're doing
tranquil spoke
but shouldn't be any more difficult
pallid vine
i have had systems so fucked with so many unwanted waypoints i just have to bail
hallow token
Waypoints would probably be hard in a game like this. consider everything is supposedly relative.
tranquil spoke
because it's just words in one language pointing to words in another language
what the word actually is, is irrelevant
honest basalt
It depends on the implementation, really.
pallid girder
Just reload your last save it clears your waypoints
honest basalt
It could be a giant table of indexes, or it could be a giant table of keys
pallid vine
uhhh
robust owl
so are gravitino balls just good for selling then?
pallid vine
i am not talking about what you have tagged with your visor
tranquil spoke
@pallid girder the "Reload Save" buttons can corrupt your savegame
hallow token
Yes.
pallid girder
Need them for some blueprints
honest basalt
If it's a table of indexes it gets more expensive to look stuff up, but with keys it can be annoying if you're using unicode characters
robust owl
k ill just sell all mine cause dat inv space
pallid vine
at the very least allow to not show waypoints from other fucking planets
honest basalt
Totally depends on the language/implementation
pallid girder
On ps4 it can corrupt your save?
hallow token
I found a moon with gravitino balls within the first 30 minutes of playing. It was glowing bright when I walked close to it. Had no idea wtf it was. I just noped out lol.
honest basalt
Not every language even uses the key/index system
hallow token
If it reacts when I get close. I figured it was dangerous.
tranquil spoke
@honest basalt 99% of word "deciphering" is done by a simple dictionary(key/value container) in literally every game that has stuff implemented like that
pallid girder
Graviton Balls are easy money
honest basalt
An example is that people used unicode characters for discoveries and discovered that it corrupted their save
So it's clear NMS doesn't have great unicode support
tranquil spoke
the problem is that they made their own engine
rocky jackal
Hue
hallow token
I don't know why people assume a game has unicode support. Though from a developer standpoint, that's an oversight.
YOu don't allow people to input characters that aren't supported.
tranquil spoke
unicode is almost always supported
honest basalt
@hallow token I've worked on a game that didn't have unicode support for a long long time
tranquil spoke
especially if you plan to have localization
honest basalt
It is definitely not an oddity to lack unicode support
Nowadays with the globalization of translation it's become a stronger trend to have proper unicode support, but it's not a full on standard yet
hallow token
^
honest basalt
Go into a bunch of games and try out Alt+0215
hallow token
unicode was rare up until about 5 years or so ago.
honest basalt
Some will work, some won't
That'll tell you what has unicode support, in their chat system anyway
tranquil spoke
that was years ago
hallow token
‼
hallow token
Ô
cyan tendon
and alt 0215 is different to alt 215
rocky jackal
No shit sherlock.
honest basalt
I'm in the game dev industry, silly
tranquil spoke
i've been a software engineer for 18 years
honest basalt
I experience this stuff daily
game dev is a bunch of drama, a bunch of personalities
It's not a happy place
some companies have high turn over, there's no unions, etc.
You don't go into the game dev industry for money
You go into it for the passion
Also, game dev is not software dev
It sounds similar, but it's not
rocky jackal
Sean Murray has the passion...
hallow token
^
hallow token
When your considering games though. You can't think of them as the "hear and now". Because they aren't instantly brought into existence. Games released last year were made using technology created a decade ago.
tranquil spoke
it's insane
hallow token
And a decade ago unicode wasn't a thing.
Hence "you can't assume a game has unicode"
honest basalt
The only people who make money in the game dev industry are usually execs
cyan tendon
A decade is a bit long for most dev cycles
honest basalt
Everyone below them tends to be paid half/three times less what they could be paid in software dev
hallow token
True.
honest basalt
And will put in more than twice the hours
robust owl
one thing im suprised i havnt heard people talk as much about is how non upgrading the game is. like. the only dif in any weapon/ship is looks and space..... they made it out to seem youd find super great stuff randomly and hope you have enough saved. nope...
hallow token
That's not really an issue though.
robust owl
it just makes for less content to play through and less reward feelign moments imo
hallow token
Because more slots = better upgrades. Granted you have to upgrade it yourself. But most people probably do that anyway. Because matching upgrades improves synergy.
wary bloom
i fix it....i think
hallow token
When I found a new ship/gun, I dismantled everything and rebuild it myself. because = more effencient.
robust owl
makes it impossible to grow attached to any of them. which is a bit of a let down for me. figureed id be getting gear and debating on if i should switch or not. nope. switch every time
pallid vine
i know it is peoples own fault for playings in a way i am about to describe but flying around to crashed sites to get ships with more slots for more upgrades ect is just a grind
pallid girder
You do if you don't have all the blueprints
robust owl
eh as long as a weapon has a visor, a gun, and mining beam. anything is extra to me
pallid girder
Do only certain ships have the targeting help?
Still haven't figured out if it's an upgrade or ship specific
pallid vine
yeah, there is like nothing magical or special about say a mining laser with 15 slots vs 20, its just better, no extra magical algorithm at work
i believe it is dependant on the 3 types of ships
hallow token
@pallid vine I stopped flying to crashed ships once I found out you'll only find ships with 2-3 more slots.
That's a waste of time considering you'll likely have to rebuild/add stuff to it anyway.
tranquil spoke
@hallow token theres actually a chance to find a 48 slot ship
pallid girder
You found ones with 3?!?
tranquil spoke
it's just rare
pallid vine
how is spending time to get max slots on a ship not the most worth?
hallow token
I haven't found it. I usually have to fly to the opposite side of the planet. to get to them lol.
It's quicker farming high priced materials on barren planets or moons.
tranquil spoke
not really
you need 100million+ units
to buy a 48 slot
not to mention you still have to buy lower slot ships
to upgrade
in order for 48 slotters to show up
so ultimately it's probably closer to 250-300million
which would take about the same amount of time
as finding crashed ships on planet
with thrust booster active
hallow token
I made roughly 600k per 10 minutes of farming.
tranquil spoke
i'm finding 2-3 crashed ships on this moon every 15 minutes
honest basalt
The fastest method is to buy up to ~20 slots, then do crashed ships
hallow token
Oh you fly.
I haven't tried that way. Console. Crap that load that fast. I can barely see the ground at that speed.
robust owl
yeah ive only ever found two ships yet so.
tranquil spoke
yeah consoles are pretty shit
hallow token
Indeed.
honest basalt
Bypass chips are cheap
mint spear
~join-role Pirates
prisma yokeBOT
gave Pirates to @mint spear
tranquil spoke
boosting along surface is faster than the bypass chip method
tranquil spoke
you can re-use the gek transmission towers
to find multiple crashed ships
lots of people used that bug
to get 48 slot
within the first 24 hours
hallow token
Man, wish I had that.
So I could "ruin the experience for myself"
lol. I honestly laughed pretty hard when Sean said that.
hallow token
lol. Ikr
tranquil spoke
lets make a super advanced space sim
with FTL travel
but only let your ship carry 5 different materials!
YEAH!!
hallow token
He was likely banking on the idea that players wouldn't reach end-game until next month or months later.
Lol. Yea, okay. Someone clearly hasn't been gaming long enough.
Players always find a way to get to in-game with the first 48 hours.
tranquil spoke
he seems like a smug artist that decided one day to make games instead
pallid vine
it just is a testament to his unreal inexperience
hallow token
^
pallid girder
I Can't boost faster than 180 on surface though
tranquil spoke
do you have all 3 upgrades?
honest basalt
Speed's based on your engines
hallow token
Tip your nose downward @pallid girder You go faster.
pallid girder
Only way I can go faster is to go into the stratosphere but then I can't see anything
pallid girder
I'm on ps4
tranquil spoke
idk the console button
pallid girder
You mean boost with pulse drive?
tranquil spoke
R3 trigger
is what comes up
for my xbox controller
no
not the pulse drive
theres a second planet booster
pallid girder
Wtf why didn't I know that?!?
tranquil spoke
you use it while still in the planets atmosphere
not out in space
LOTS of people don't know about it
you can use it in dog fights in space too
or to get around space stations faster
or mine faster...
pallid vine
are you talking about holding roll left and right?
pastel thunder
whaaaaat
pastel thunder
theres another way to go fast thats not holding b?
tranquil spoke
it's separate
pallid girder
That's the pulse drive boost isn't it?
pallid vine
oh yeah, Boost
tranquil spoke
not the pulse engine though
pastel thunder
pressing R3 does nothing
tranquil spoke
look in controls
pastel thunder
I just tried
tranquil spoke
for what your sprint key is bound to
pallid girder
Yeah that's the pulse drive boost
tranquil spoke
should i make a gif?
pallid vine
it is under Brake in the controls menu
tranquil spoke
flight controls
pastel thunder
R3 doesn't do anything
pallid girder
Yeah that the O button on ps4
obsidian crypt
Hi everyone, new here even if started nerding on NMS since a while
tranquil spoke
it's weird how many people don't know about it
rose grove
I tried streaming last night
tranquil spoke
and think im talking about the pulse engine
pallid girder
I know that still only gets me to 18o in atmo
tranquil spoke
@pallid girder do you have all 3 pulse engine upgrades?
rose grove
Anything less was half the screen or zoomed in
tranquil spoke
sigma tau and photonix core
rose grove
Well I put in 1920 x1080 and the screen only filled a quarter of the screen
tranquil spoke
photonix core is basically pulse jet theta
rose grove
But I have a wide screen screen
So I fucked about with it and the best I could get was 1440x840
tranquil spoke
what streaming app
pallid girder
Yeah got the blue print but not the space
rose grove
To be full screen
Open broadcast
Plus I'm on 200meg
Speeds and when streaming I picked 1000 mg option
And on my mobile it was buffering
However watching any other channel was smooth
So ?? Was the 1000 to high
When I dropped it the pixels were horrible
Anyone ?
tranquil spoke
idk how obs works
rose grove
Ok
obsidian crypt
never tried to stream, so can't help
tranquil spoke
does it automatically scale the resolution down?
rose grove
@pastel thunder if i do it constantly buffers
pastel thunder
whats your upload speed
pastel thunder
12 mbps or 1.2 mbps?
tranquil spoke
12 MB or mb??
pastel thunder
so your upload speed is 1200 kb/s, correct?
tranquil spoke
so 200MB down and 12MB up
rose grove
Yes
tranquil spoke
kind of crazy the photonix core increases speed by 40u
tranquil spoke
3/10
obsidian crypt
i am enjoying it so far with 30 hours on it
rose grove
I'm on 41
tranquil spoke
massive lack of actual content
pallid vine
i would agree with a 3/10
rose grove
Full suit upgrades ship and gun
obsidian crypt
i am at 42 suit, a 35 ship and a flashy pink gun with 16 slot that i deeply hate
tranquil spoke
im fully maxed out
rose grove
Only thing missing
tranquil spoke
missing 3 things
obsidian crypt
i've been looking for the pass atlas v2 but can't find it
rose grove
The one where it gives u 2 or 3 options give alot of blueprints
obsidian crypt
i've been looking in the facilities since a long time and can't find anything good
rose grove
I got 90% of my good blueprints from the canisters from crashed ships
Not the triangle shaped one the ball shaped one
Which rises up when activated
vale quest
I like it so far, but it crashes alot
obsidian crypt
hopefully they'll add more stuff, but right now as i've got what i've paid for i am ok
vale quest
@rose grove I wonder if people don't know about those
@obsidian crypt if you look at the videos it seems a different game
Like a Chinese knock off :p
vale quest
Compared to what they showed
tranquil spoke
it really is a chinese knockoff
vale quest
@tranquil spoke I still like it I shouldn't have said that :(
obsidian crypt
well i knew there was boring stuff to do, like just exploring and getting some stuff and flying on another planet lol, waited after the day one to watch also some stream for it
then got it without let the hype train getting me
tranquil spoke
the problem for me
is that they had the features implemented
and just removed them
probably because of sony
but it's hard to say that
because of all the insanely common bugs
that scream incompotent development
elfin tapir
i'm slightly disappointed at the technical faults, and the content is slightly dry, but i didn't expect much content in space minecraft. It earned a 6.5/10 from me for now, if they fix the technical problems and give it a nice optimisation patch, it'll jump to 7.5. Free content patches will take it to a 8.5-9
obsidian crypt
what gets me annoyed is the poor pc porting
(even if i think it's because the opengl that it works so bad on a lot of pc configurations)
tranquil spoke
they should have used a pre-built engine
that actually has 100% support
for both console and pc
AND mac
obsidian crypt
a directx support could have been really useful
tranquil spoke
they could have made the game in unity3d
and saved probably 4 years
of development
lapis frigate
Guy's could you tell me if this laptop Specifications are good ? and how much fps in nms and other games like gta v fallout 4 etc.. ?
http://prntscr.com/c6uund
worthy crane
If you find a crashed ship with 48 slots, does it have every upgrade in it?
tranquil spoke
no
it has a lot of them though
but they are all unlinked
@lapis frigate price?
lapis frigate
idk actully it's a gift from my brother
worthy crane
Ok...but still, you dismantle them and get everything you need righr?
tranquil spoke
you will get a shitload of the rare resources
if you're going around salvaging crashed ships
once you get your 48 slot
yes
lapis frigate
is it good thought ?
tranquil spoke
it's average
tranquil spoke
oh it has a gt740m
lapis frigate
yes
elfin tapir
it'll do fine
a 740 can handle nms on med graphics pretty easily i would think
high depends really
lapis frigate
Ok thank you guy's ♥
elfin tapir
and i haven't test run anything than my own rig in months so my scale is off now -_-
tranquil spoke
getting 5 gravitino balls, 1 dynamic resonator, 1 vortex cube, 1 dimensional matrix, and 1 neutrino module per crashed ship
is so great
plus they stack
rocky jackal
I wouldn't recommend high if you're in a huge ship. FPS drops a plenty.
tranquil spoke
just dismantle an item
that contains the unstackable material
and it becomes stackable
up to 100
because i have a 48 slot ship
the crashed ships im finding
have multiple rows
of t2 and t3 upgrades
which salvages into that stuff
elfin tapir
i'll keep an eye out for that
tranquil spoke
i'd say if you're going for most efficient playthrough
you should get 24 slot exo
18-20 slot multi tool
then go hard on ship upgrades
to 48
(theres a chance the crashed ships will give you 24 slot multi tools)
elfin tapir
also, you guys seem to find a ton of crashed ships, i've found one
tranquil spoke
theres a few tricks
to speed up the progress
#1 would be to find a system with 2+ moons
and look for them there
on the moon
because stations/crashes spawn much closer together
elfin tapir
good to know
tranquil spoke
it's also a good idea to farm about 5million units
on a planet with rare materials
elfin tapir
i have a 970 nvidia and i'm having slight issues rendering anything more than 50 yds, is it just nms or settings?
tranquil spoke
like vortex cubes
and buy a 30-32 slot ship
before starting the crashed ship grind
definitely nms
elfin tapir
not crippling issues, but certainly structures dont really spawn in till i'm close
elfin tapir
will do, but i figured it was nms
tranquil spoke
the gsync setting in the nms settings file
i mean
not the actual nvidia driver settings
elfin tapir
yea
robust owl
lol so i bought a ship about an hour ago and i went back to the station i was at. and the ship i left is still sitting there. XD
cosmic ermine
hey guys i have a few questions
tranquil spoke
ok.. what are they?
cosmic ermine
@tranquil spoke for ship inventory... when stacking the warp drive items... they need to be above, below, or directly to the side of the original warp item right? and they all need to be linked to work?
subtle jasper
😳
tranquil spoke
sigma, tau, theta
tranquil spoke
@cosmic ermine it kind of drives me nuts that you can't reposition the base components of the ship
cosmic ermine
sigma tau theta ok
tranquil spoke
cause exosuit and multi tool are both horizontal
tranquil spoke
working as intended as far as i can tell
the blueprints to re-craft the base components exist
cosmic ermine
i have been looking super carefully before buying ships at the placement of the bases
tranquil spoke
but you can't dismantle things
tranquil spoke
you shouldn't really bother
cosmic ermine
i wonder why you cant take them off
cosmic ermine
can you create two of them
tranquil spoke
nope
cosmic ermine
one that you dont really use
tranquil spoke
only one
cosmic ermine
ill need to make sure my warp isnt snuggled between the base shield and the whatever else base
i've had a few where there were only one or two slots under the warp too
thank you for the help!
tranquil spoke
yeah it only matters when you're under i think 40 slots
then it is all pretty much the same
only the corners change
mint spear
They should have a "hard" mode where storms would actually do something and exo/multitool/ship parts would wear and brake
cosmic ermine
o crap
mint spear
Or through back holes but thats extreme cases. In 50h of play time ive only died once and was on purpose
cosmic ermine
i gotta stop oggling at wierd animals and start farming some gold to get my ship togeather
thats pretty good wrath
ive been gangspanked by some hostiles once or twice
mint spear
Me too, but theyre so easy to kill with the right gear. Hell when im bored i just go around shooting pirate and do some piracy myself
cosmic ermine
i can't wait to reach that point
ive been putting all my monies into the exosuite weather stuff
and the gun
mint spear
Yeah me too, i still have one of my first ships lol
tranquil spoke
protip: you can get multitool slot upgrades from crashed ship sites
mint spear
Dunno some weird ass one that lands "verticaly", only 26 slots
mint spear
Yeah that one lol
mint spear
I tried buying a tie fighter looking one but theyve been all low on slots
mint spear
Lol never seen one but ive seen a tube shaped one
elfin tapir
that moment when you find a ship you would die for and cant afford it
tranquil spoke
i should spend more time around these freighters
i just found a space station with no npc in it
that's a first
out of about 100
tranquil spoke
get the fast action mod
fluid igloo
TMW you can't find the last species on a planet
subtle jasper
Elite sentinel forces activated
subtle jasper
Shush
When sentinel force is here
Be quiet all
Or I will shoot you all
With my lazer beam
fluid igloo
Please.
I have yet to die.
Most times the Sentinels can't handle my laser juking skills
elfin tapir
thx for the recommendation @tranquil spoke but i'm looking for a mod to skip the zoom out, though this is a nice one that i'm keeping
viscid jacinth
pliant fjordBOT
⬆ 🎞 [PCGamesN] Elite Dangerous patch 2.2 - aliens, space stations & more | Gamescom 2016 [2:57] - 41 min ago
crimson breach
@fluid igloo then I don't think you've encountered the bipedal sentinel yet
viscid jacinth
whoops wrong discord 😄
frail scroll
@viscid jacinth dude that's dope!!!
Anyone that hasn't bought NMS, did you hear you get 15% off of it on Green Man Gaming?
dusky cloud
@frail scroll @viscid jacinth I think there is more coming to the update that was not meantion, might be getting character creation and multi crew this patch but not 100% sure (Elite Dangerous). Anyway not ED chat lol
dusky cloud
But those two things I am not 100% sure on
frail scroll
@dusky cloud this is an Off topic chat anyway, so you are good. What's the discord for E:D?
dusky cloud
Oh yea so it is
I don't know, I only have my squadrans one
Check this, near the bottom of the page, this was added recently
Not bottom
About half way
"Coming soon..."
frail scroll
Found E:D discord: https://discord.gg/0V5hfT4eO8e3wg5U
dusky cloud
I am mostly looking forward to multi crew. Have a few players in my corvette
frail scroll
I have the planetary landing on Xbox version and I wasn't too impressed with it so far. Hopefully the update brings something new to it.
dusky cloud
Atmospheric planet will be coming in the next season but not sure about any changes before
You got to admit tho, the SRV's are fun to drive
frail scroll
For sure, especially when you have friends to ride next to.
dusky cloud
But yea next season we will have atmpheric planets and from what I understand it's going to be like NMS with wildlife, plants etc
Which will be amazing as ED does have a better planet generation. More real but that is nothing against NMS as they are meant to be influenced off 60's-70's sci-fi etc. Different art style.
frail scroll
Sure hope that it happens.
viscid jacinth
it would be funny if ed's atmosferic planets are better than nms 😄
and by funny i mean very very sad
dusky cloud
Most likely it will be, it has a much more advanced generation engine
NMS does it differently tho with the funky math but ED's just looks more real
frail scroll
If both were combined, it would be an epic game.
dusky cloud
They both are epic gams but they are also very different games. Just NMS has a LOT of issues and should have had more testing
frail scroll
Was there a beta for NMS at all?
cyan tendon
I'd have picked the bastard off child featuring elements from Eve Online, Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen for a favourite all time top 5 game of a life. It may result in not having a life, but still.
frail scroll
Heck even Alpha?
cyan tendon
no no public beta
dusky cloud
No there was not.
Star Citizen I lost interest in after delaying it again and again and again and again ....
And also sooooo many broken promises
cyan tendon
Sadly game design on paper is a lot faster to do than actually making it a digital thing
upbeat shale
Anyone know where to find a complete list of blueprints avaialable in game?
cyan tendon
At least I can see SC being somewhat good, where as the entire foundation of Elite Dangerous needs to be scrapped and redone
I'll take Eve Onlines market and player influenced markets with Elite Dangerous' flight and docking mechanics and No Mans Sky planetary exploration, but with better inventory and ship design, probably a mix between ED and Eve Online
frail scroll
At this point I wouldn't mind if the starships were not procedurally generated, because repetition is horrendous on ship styles.
cyan tendon
oh yes a little more hand crafted assets would be good too
mint yew
frail scroll
Hello, is America a person?
mint spear
what is procedurally generated with the ships if they all look the same? I've only seen 3-4 models so far. Shouldn't each one be unique?
dusky cloud
I have found lots of models but they basicle have lots of model parts of ships and the server puts them together like playing lego
That's why you see the same parts a lot
Also I noticed the closer I get to the center, the more ship designes i see
mint spear
not same parts, the ships are different, but there are only 3-4 models. A pink one that I've seen alot of identical ones for example
dusky cloud
Then you truly are unlucky :)
mint spear
there shouldn't be any models, just unique ships :S
dusky cloud
I get what you are saying but I have seen way more then 4 but I agree I see a lot of repeats
mint spear
"Update queued" wooot.. new patch?
dusky cloud
I have had 70 hours in NMS, would be worried if I have seen only 4 models
I got that too, must be
gray ledge
Any given system will have only a few ship designs (for some reason), but I've seen a lot of variation in different systems
mint spear
I hope alt tab still works
dusky cloud
I have jumped over 150 times so far and I agree @gray ledge I have seen that pattern
cyan tendon
Wow that's hardcore @mint spear
fluid igloo
Guys, I think the update was to switch the height/weight measurments
mint spear
60.7 MB update size
fluid igloo
Because the other day they had the height of the creature in the weight catagory
Well, that's the only thing I noticed anyway
mint spear
too big for only stats fix
wait
stupid me, was looking at update of another game
nms is 6.7 MB xD
proud pollen
I fully explored 5 planets 100% before I jumped out of my first system.
Much more fulfilling gameplay for me.
Than just jumping to the center.
bleak viper
Any new stuff/bug fixes yet?
proud pollen
Anyone know if the birthed star you have made for ten atlas stones is randomly named or named after you?
cyan tendon
@mint spear What was the other game you were looking at?
mint spear
path of exile
proud pollen
What does it spoil?
heady hamlet
hmmm ive read somewhere that blue stars contain good planets (tropical and lots of materials)
proud pollen
It has no impact on you ever.
heady hamlet
why is it when i go to one they're always barren wastelands
proud pollen
85 Hours in No Man's Sky and I'm just now about to start heading to the center.
I hope there's still systems to name when I get there.
cyan tendon
What's the spoiler?
dusky cloud
@short lava lol, chill out
dusky cloud
@proud pollen ALL YOU MESSAGES MUST BE DELETE COS OF SPOILER RAWR Only joking :)
elfin tapir
he didn't say that
cyan tendon
But that means we can't talk about any game because some people may not have played it or got there yet.
dusky cloud
Ok ok I will change that one sec ...
dusky cloud
Off topic is everything lol
mint spear
you're all off-topic! Silence in the courtroom!
dusky cloud
ikr @mint spear
frail scroll
Center of the galaxy does nothing when you discover it.
dusky cloud
_<
mint spear
I'm gonna take a quick run to the center of the universe, there better be no more off-topic once i get back
dusky cloud
I got to the center of the galaxy and all I saw was a massive sandwhich the size of a planet
frail scroll
I got sent back home.
elfin tapir
seriously? could you not spoil things? the whole story kinda pushes you towards the center and what's there is kinda a mystery until someone talks about it
frail scroll
The center is located approximately 2000000 light years away.
dusky cloud
tbh @short lava you are the only person who has problems. Also off topic is anything even No Mans Sky. The NMS chat is so you only talk about NMS. If you want to go police another channel go do it to one where there are actual reasons to
That sounded more harsh than I intended
elfin tapir
if you want to give him shit give it for something he deserves
dusky cloud
Oh here come the insults
dusky cloud
I get that, I was just messing about but there is no need for name calling lol
frail scroll
SPOILER! The planet you start on is where your starship crashed.
elfin tapir
he made a comment that it might be allowed in nms-talk, but it clearly didn't belong here and people blew it up
cyan tendon
Spoiler if you were enjoying NMS you wouldn't be here - of course enjoying not enjoyed
mint spear
Plot twist. The planet crashed into your ship
dusky cloud
Sue the planet, insurance details please planet
frail scroll
SPOILER! for my WRX.
elfin tapir
<@&146127509417623552> can we have some official presence before this turns into a shit show
dusky cloud
Let's just chill and just change the conversation. Comversations like this don't leade to anywhere but a annoyed people
cyan tendon
or people who find chores suddenly more interesting
frail scroll
Spoiler! Moderators are awesome!
dusky cloud
lol
cyan tendon
I suggest a trial by puns
frail scroll
*Revives SinNombre
dusky cloud
Wait wait, so if you lose you're guilty? I am ok with that
cyan tendon
That's what a trial usually means yes
dusky cloud
_<
mint spear
I never lose. Whenever I am begining to lose I stop losing and start winning instead. True story
dusky cloud
lol
frail scroll
Story of my life!
dusky cloud
Shield's down ...... RUNNNN :P
frail scroll
Life Support LOW
lime bolt
Is that a quote from Trump or north Korea dude @mint spear
mint spear
from barney
plain flower
Should I call her?
lime bolt
Lol
inner vector
@elfin tapir what are you asking for?
frail scroll
@lime bolt you mean Kim Jong-Un? The invincible one?
mint spear
please don't stop the_music
dusky cloud
Oh god here comes the ban hammer Kidding
vagrant condor
What's going on
inner vector
I think @elfin tapir wants some "official" HG people here
but I'm not sure
i asked
dusky cloud
There was some heated dicussion but we sorted it @vagrant condor
frail scroll
We called Ghost Busters.
vagrant condor
gotcha
inner vector
oh i see
dusky cloud
We change the conversation, all good now
vagrant condor
tag me if u need me
plain flower
ØøØøØøØøØ
mint spear
There was another strike from the serial spoiler
elfin tapir
things were degrading and i got worried, we're all good 😄
cyan tendon
@vagrant condor Never think you're not needed, we love you!
dusky cloud
@short lava Come on, thought we were all getting along, oh well
mint spear
we had to ban two users to a red planet, but it's all ok now
elfin tapir
i like red
dusky cloud
lol
mint spear
it was red from the blood of previous spoilers
inner vector
@elfin tapir were you upset with someone because they said there was a giant sandwich at the center of the galaxy?
plain flower
@mint spear Apparently I spoiled the ending yesterday by saying there isnt a true ending that anyone has seen of yet.
elfin tapir
i'm hungry and that's a long way away for my sandwitch
dusky cloud
Oh crap am I gonna get a kick for that giant sandwich
elfin tapir
but no, there was an atlas spoiler above that
inner vector
i see it now
mint spear
@plain flower stop spoiling, I haven't read yesterday's conversations yet and did not know what you said!
inner vector
!voteban Reditus for sandwich comment
plain flower
GUYS WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END? ANGELS SING OUT IN AN IMMACULATE CHORUS, DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS DECENDS CHUCK NORIS. Who delivered a kick that could shatter bones into the crotch of indiana jones who fell onto the ground wreathing in pain while bruce wayne turned back into batman, but chuck norris saw through that disguise and then crushed batmans head in between his thighs.
cyan tendon
Can I just say the game called "This is the Police" is very depressing
plain flower
/s
elfin tapir
i forgot about that song
plain flower
^
elfin tapir
gotta go hear it now
inner vector
a game about poilce depressing? well fancy that...
mint spear
man why did you spoil that game too, I did not know yet that it was depressing
dusky cloud
hahahah Oh man you are in so muuch trouble now @plain flower
plain flower
:3
frail scroll
~join-role Pirates
prisma yokeBOT
gave Pirates to @frail scroll
frail scroll
YES! I'm a PIRATE!
plain flower
Inbrl4 someone summons music
mint spear
~join-role Trolls
prisma yokeBOT
role not found/not allowed
mint spear
😦
cyan tendon
@inner vector Normally corruption is interesting, but the setting is extremely depressing because you can't do anything about the outcomes
plain flower
We need a youtuber rank
frail scroll
😄
frail scroll
Link @plain flower or it didn't happen.
plain flower
Link to what?
mint spear
I'm off to sell some emeril under the market price. Spoiler be with y'all
plain flower
My letsplay or the ending?
frail scroll
So it didn't happen then.
inner vector
@cyan tendon kinda like real life ... =/
cyan tendon
@inner vector Yes it must be very depressing for commanders and leaders who send others out who then die.
plain flower
pliant fjordBOT
⬆ 🎞 [AlbinoBlackSheep] The Ultimate Showdown (with MP3 ♫) [3:35] - 8 years 14 weeks ago
inner vector
HE HAS SPOKEN!
elfin tapir
hang on now lol
plain flower
And, youre insulting the game in NMS talk
inner vector
i'll start the paperwork
plain flower
And you said you were leaving the discord.
teal horizon
Yeah, game does that fine on it's own
dusky cloud
@short lava Your at it again, dude you need to relax lol
mint spear
joking about what is at the center is not spoiling
plain flower
^
mint spear
he will not be banned
teal horizon
yeah, because now you're said that you're joking
mint spear
or kicked