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flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:03 AM

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I want to enable agent 'main' can talk to other agent, and allow main can spawn other agents as sub-agents

{
"agents": {
"defaults": {
"workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace",
"timeoutSeconds": 3600,
"verboseDefault": "full",
"model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
"llm": {
"idleTimeoutSeconds": 0
}
},
"list": [
{
"id": "main",
"tools": {
"profile": "full",
"alsoAllow": [
"browser",
"canvas",
"message",
"gateway",
"nodes",
"agents_list",
"tts"
]
},
"subagents": {
"allowAgents": ["onisuzume", "pikachu", "kamonegi"]
}
},
{
"id": "onisuzume",
"name": "onisuzume",
"workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/onisuzume",
"agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/onisuzume/agent",
"model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
"tools": {
"profile": "full",
"alsoAllow": ["browser", "canvas", "message", "gateway", "nodes", "agents_list", "tts"]
},
"subagents": {
"maxSpawnDepth": 2,
"runTimeoutSeconds": 900
}
},
{
"id": "pikachu",
"name": "pikachu",
"workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/pikachu",
"agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/pikachu/agent",
"model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
"tools": {
"profile": "full",
"alsoAllow": ["browser", "canvas", "message", "gateway", "nodes", "agents_list", "tts"]
},
"subagents": {
"maxSpawnDepth": 2,
"runTimeoutSeconds": 900
}
}
]
},

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brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:05 AM

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You’re very close. main.subagents.allowAgents only enables spawning.
For main to talk to other agents with sessions_send / sessions_list / session_status, you also need:

{
  tools: {
    sessions: {
      visibility: "all"
    },
    agentToAgent: {
      enabled: true,
      allow: ["main", "onisuzume", "pikachu"]
    }
  },
  agents: {
    list: [

#

      {
        id: "main",
        tools: {
          profile: "full"
        },
        subagents: {
          allowAgents: ["onisuzume", "pikachu"]
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

A few important notes:

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tools.agentToAgent.allow must include both the requester and target agent IDs. So include main too.
tools.sessions.visibility must be "all" or cross-agent session tools stay blocked.
kamonegi in your allowAgents will not work until you actually add an agent with id: "kamonegi".
profile: "full" already includes sessions_send, sessions_spawn, subagents, and agents_list, so you do not need to add those via alsoAllow.

Optional:

If you want A2A back-and-forth replies, add:

session: {
  agentToAgent: {
    maxPingPongTurns: 1
  }
}

Then restart the gateway:

#

openclaw gateway restart

Docs:

One subtle thing: tools.agentToAgent.allow is effectively symmetric. If you allow onisuzume, it can also initiate A2A unless you explicitly deny session tools on that agent.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:06 AM

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brave rapids You’re very close. `main.subagents.allowAgents` only enables **spawning**. For `...

this for agents.defaults ?

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:07 AM

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No, not agents.defaults.

These go at the top-level tools block:

{
  tools: {
    sessions: {
      visibility: "all"
    },
    agentToAgent: {
      enabled: true,
      allow: ["main", "onisuzume", "pikachu"]
    }
  }
}

#

If you want spawn permissions only for main, keep this where you already have it:

{
  agents: {
    list: [
      {
        id: "main",
        subagents: {
          allowAgents: ["onisuzume", "pikachu"]
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

#

If you wanted the same spawn allowlist for all agents by default, then that part would go under:

{
  agents: {
    defaults: {
      subagents: {
        allowAgents: ["onisuzume", "pikachu"]
      }
    }
  }
}

So, short version:

tools.agentToAgent → top level

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tools.sessions.visibility → top level
agents.list[].subagents.allowAgents → per agent
agents.defaults.subagents.allowAgents → default for all agents

If you want, I can rewrite your full config snippet in the correct shape.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:08 AM

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please help me to rewrite

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:08 AM

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Yep, here’s a cleaned-up rewrite.

I removed alsoAllow because profile: "full" already includes everything, and I removed kamonegi for now because you don’t have an agent with that id yet.

{
  tools: {
    sessions: {
      visibility: "all"
    },
    agentToAgent: {
      enabled: true,
      allow: ["main", "onisuzume", "pikachu"]
    }
  },

#

  agents: {
    defaults: {
      workspace: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace",
      timeoutSeconds: 3600,
      verboseDefault: "full",
      model: "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
      llm: {
        idleTimeoutSeconds: 0
      }
    },

    list: [
      {
        id: "main",
        tools: {

#

          profile: "full"
        },
        subagents: {
          allowAgents: ["onisuzume", "pikachu"]
        }
      },

      {
        id: "onisuzume",
        name: "onisuzume",
        workspace: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/onisuzume",
        agentDir: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/onisuzume/agent",
        model: "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        tools: {
          profile: "full"

#

        },
        subagents: {
          maxSpawnDepth: 2,
          runTimeoutSeconds: 900
        }
      },

      {
        id: "pikachu",
        name: "pikachu",
        workspace: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/pikachu",
        agentDir: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/pikachu/agent",
        model: "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        tools: {
          profile: "full"

#

        },
        subagents: {
          maxSpawnDepth: 2,
          runTimeoutSeconds: 900
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

Optional, if you want agent-to-agent reply loops too:

#

  session: {
    agentToAgent: {
      maxPingPongTurns: 1
    }
  }
}

Then restart:

openclaw gateway restart

If you want, I can also rewrite it again with kamonegi added properly.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:14 AM

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brave rapids ```json5 session: { agentToAgent: { maxPingPongTurns: 1 } } } ...

this shoul set at sessions under tools on the top ?

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:15 AM

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Almost, but there are two different top-level blocks:

{
  tools: {
    sessions: {
      visibility: "all"
    },
    agentToAgent: {
      enabled: true,
      allow: ["main", "onisuzume", "pikachu"]
    }
  },

  session: {
    agentToAgent: {

#

      maxPingPongTurns: 1
    }
  }
}

So:

tools.sessions.visibility → under top-level tools
tools.agentToAgent → under top-level tools
session.agentToAgent.maxPingPongTurns → under top-level session, not under tools.sessions

If you want, I can paste the full final config with all 3 agents and the correct top-level layout in one block.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:19 AM

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{
"tools": {
"sessions": {
"visibility": "all"
},
"agentToAgent": {
"enabled": true,
"allow": ["main", "onisuzume", "pikachu"]
}
},
{
"session": {
"agentToAgent": {
"maxPingPongTurns": 1
}
}
},
"agents": {
"defaults": {

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:19 AM

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Yep, just one small syntax issue: you added an extra { before "session".

This is the correct shape:

{
  tools: {
    sessions: {
      visibility: "all"
    },
    agentToAgent: {
      enabled: true,
      allow: ["main", "onisuzume", "pikachu"]
    }
  },

#

  session: {
    agentToAgent: {
      maxPingPongTurns: 1
    }
  },

  agents: {
    defaults: {
      workspace: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace",
      timeoutSeconds: 3600,
      verboseDefault: "full",
      model: "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
      llm: {
        idleTimeoutSeconds: 0
      }

#

    },

    list: [
      {
        id: "main",
        tools: {
          profile: "full"
        },
        subagents: {
          allowAgents: ["onisuzume", "pikachu"]
        }
      },
      {
        id: "onisuzume",
        name: "onisuzume",

#

        workspace: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/onisuzume",
        agentDir: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/onisuzume/agent",
        model: "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        tools: {
          profile: "full"
        },
        subagents: {
          maxSpawnDepth: 2,
          runTimeoutSeconds: 900
        }
      },
      {
        id: "pikachu",
        name: "pikachu",
        workspace: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/pikachu",

#

        agentDir: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/pikachu/agent",
        model: "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        tools: {
          profile: "full"
        },
        subagents: {
          maxSpawnDepth: 2,
          runTimeoutSeconds: 900
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

Your broken part was:

#

  },
  {
    "session": {

It should just be:

  },

  session: {

After that, restart with:

#

openclaw gateway restart

If you want, I can also give you the same thing in strict JSON format instead of JSON5.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:22 AM

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Apr 17 16:21:41 fedora node[984530]: 2026-04-17T16:21:41.938+07:00 [reload] config reload skipped (invalid config): agents.list.0.tools: Unrecognized key: "subagents", agents.list.1.tools: Unrecognized key: "subagents", agents.list.2.tools: Unrecognized key: "subagents", agents.list.3.tools: Unrecognized key: "subagents"

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:22 AM

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Ah, that log tells us exactly what happened.

subagents is currently nested inside agents.list[].tools in your real config, and that is invalid.

It must be a sibling of tools, like this:

{
  agents: {
    list: [
      {
        id: "main",
        tools: {
          profile: "full"
        },
        subagents: {

#

          allowAgents: ["onisuzume", "pikachu"]
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

Not this:

{
  agents: {
    list: [
      {

#

        id: "main",
        tools: {
          profile: "full",
          subagents: {   // ❌ wrong place
            allowAgents: ["onisuzume", "pikachu"]
          }
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

So the structure should be:

#

{
  tools: { ... },
  session: { ... },
  agents: {
    defaults: { ... },
    list: [
      {
        id: "main",
        tools: { ... },
        subagents: { ... }
      }
    ]
  }
}

#

If you want, use this exact corrected version:

{
  tools: {
    sessions: {
      visibility: "all"
    },
    agentToAgent: {
      enabled: true,
      allow: ["main", "onisuzume", "pikachu"]
    }
  },

  session: {
    agentToAgent: {

#

      maxPingPongTurns: 1
    }
  },

  agents: {
    defaults: {
      workspace: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace",
      timeoutSeconds: 3600,
      verboseDefault: "full",
      model: "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
      llm: {
        idleTimeoutSeconds: 0
      }
    },

#

    list: [
      {
        id: "main",
        tools: {
          profile: "full"
        },
        subagents: {
          allowAgents: ["onisuzume", "pikachu"]
        }
      },
      {
        id: "onisuzume",
        name: "onisuzume",
        workspace: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/onisuzume",
        agentDir: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/onisuzume/agent",

#

        model: "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        tools: {
          profile: "full"
        },
        subagents: {
          maxSpawnDepth: 2,
          runTimeoutSeconds: 900
        }
      },
      {
        id: "pikachu",
        name: "pikachu",
        workspace: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/pikachu",
        agentDir: "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/pikachu/agent",
        model: "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",

#

        tools: {
          profile: "full"
        },
        subagents: {
          maxSpawnDepth: 2,
          runTimeoutSeconds: 900
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

Then restart:

#

openclaw gateway restart

If it still errors, paste your full current config file because I’m pretty sure there’s just an indentation/nesting mistake.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:30 AM

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{
"tools": {
"sessions": {
"visibility": "all"
},
"agentToAgent": {
"enabled": true,
"allow": ["main", "onisuzume", "pikachu"]
}
},
"session": {
"agentToAgent": {
"maxPingPongTurns": 1
}
},
"agents": {
...
},
"list": [
{
"id": "main",
"tools": {
"profile": "full",
},
"subagents": {
"allowAgents": ["onisuzume","pikachu"]
}
},
{
"id": "onisuzume",
"name": "onisuzume",
"workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/onisuzume",
"agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/onisuzume/agent",
"model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
"tools": {
"profile": "full",
},
"subagents": {
"maxSpawnDepth": 2,
"runTimeoutSeconds": 900
}
},
{
"id": "kamonegi",
"name": "kamonegi",
"workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/kamonegi",
"agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/kamonegi/agent",
"model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
"tools": {
"profile": "full",
},
"subagents": {
"maxSpawnDepth": 2,
"runTimeoutSeconds": 900
}
},
{
"id": "pikachu",
"name": "pikachu",
"workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/pikachu",
"agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/pikachu/agent",
"model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
"tools": {
"profile": "full",
},
"subagents": {
"maxSpawnDepth": 2,
"runTimeoutSeconds": 900
}
}
]
},

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:31 AM

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You’re very close, but this part is still malformed:

"list" must be inside "agents"
remove the ...
if you want main to talk to/spawn kamonegi, add kamonegi to both allowlists

Use this exact shape:

{
  "tools": {
    "sessions": {
      "visibility": "all"
    },
    "agentToAgent": {
      "enabled": true,

#

      "allow": ["main", "onisuzume", "kamonegi", "pikachu"]
    }
  },
  "session": {
    "agentToAgent": {
      "maxPingPongTurns": 1
    }
  },
  "agents": {
    "defaults": {
      "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace",
      "timeoutSeconds": 3600,
      "verboseDefault": "full",
      "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
      "llm": {

#

        "idleTimeoutSeconds": 0
      }
    },
    "list": [
      {
        "id": "main",
        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        },
        "subagents": {
          "allowAgents": ["onisuzume", "kamonegi", "pikachu"]
        }
      },
      {
        "id": "onisuzume",

#

        "name": "onisuzume",
        "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/onisuzume",
        "agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/onisuzume/agent",
        "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        },
        "subagents": {
          "maxSpawnDepth": 2,
          "runTimeoutSeconds": 900
        }
      },
      {
        "id": "kamonegi",
        "name": "kamonegi",

#

        "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/kamonegi",
        "agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/kamonegi/agent",
        "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        },
        "subagents": {
          "maxSpawnDepth": 2,
          "runTimeoutSeconds": 900
        }
      },
      {
        "id": "pikachu",
        "name": "pikachu",
        "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/pikachu",

#

        "agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/pikachu/agent",
        "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        },
        "subagents": {
          "maxSpawnDepth": 2,
          "runTimeoutSeconds": 900
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

Then run:

#

openclaw gateway restart

One more subtle thing: tools.agentToAgent.allow is symmetric, so allowlisting onisuzume/kamonegi/pikachu means they can also initiate A2A unless you restrict their session tools separately.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:36 AM

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[openclaw@fedora openclaw-config]$ openclaw doctor
Invalid config at /home/openclaw/.openclaw/openclaw.json:\n- agents.list.1.subagents: Unrecognized keys: "maxSpawnDepth", "runTimeoutSeconds"

agents.list.2.subagents: Unrecognized keys: "maxSpawnDepth", "runTimeoutSeconds"
agents.list.3.subagents: Unrecognized keys: "maxSpawnDepth", "runTimeoutSeconds"

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:37 AM

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Can you paste openclaw --version too? Version mismatch does matter here.

But the fix is clear from that doctor output:

maxSpawnDepth and runTimeoutSeconds do not belong under agents.list[].subagents
move them to agents.defaults.subagents
keep agents.list[].subagents only for things like allowAgents

Use this shape:

{
  "tools": {
    "sessions": {
      "visibility": "all"
    },

#

    "agentToAgent": {
      "enabled": true,
      "allow": ["main", "onisuzume", "kamonegi", "pikachu"]
    }
  },
  "session": {
    "agentToAgent": {
      "maxPingPongTurns": 1
    }
  },
  "agents": {
    "defaults": {
      "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace",
      "timeoutSeconds": 3600,
      "verboseDefault": "full",

#

      "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
      "llm": {
        "idleTimeoutSeconds": 0
      },
      "subagents": {
        "maxSpawnDepth": 2,
        "runTimeoutSeconds": 900
      }
    },
    "list": [
      {
        "id": "main",
        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        },

#

        "subagents": {
          "allowAgents": ["onisuzume", "kamonegi", "pikachu"]
        }
      },
      {
        "id": "onisuzume",
        "name": "onisuzume",
        "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/onisuzume",
        "agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/onisuzume/agent",
        "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        }
      },
      {

#

        "id": "kamonegi",
        "name": "kamonegi",
        "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/kamonegi",
        "agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/kamonegi/agent",
        "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        }
      },
      {
        "id": "pikachu",
        "name": "pikachu",
        "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/pikachu",
        "agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/pikachu/agent",
        "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",

#

        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

Short rule of thumb:

agents.defaults.subagents → global spawn behavior like maxSpawnDepth, runTimeoutSeconds
agents.list[].subagents → per-agent allowlist like allowAgents

Then run:

#

openclaw doctor
openclaw gateway restart

If you paste openclaw --version, I can sanity-check whether your docs and installed schema are aligned.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:37 AM

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OpenClaw 2026.4.14 (323493f)

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:38 AM

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Perfect, thanks. That version lines up with what doctor is telling you.

On OpenClaw 2026.4.14:

agents.defaults.subagents supports maxSpawnDepth and runTimeoutSeconds
agents.list[].subagents does not support those keys
per-agent subagents is basically for things like allowAgents (and some lighter overrides), not nesting/timeout controls

So for your version, this is the correct pattern:

{
  "tools": {
    "sessions": {
      "visibility": "all"
    },

#

    "agentToAgent": {
      "enabled": true,
      "allow": ["main", "onisuzume", "kamonegi", "pikachu"]
    }
  },
  "session": {
    "agentToAgent": {
      "maxPingPongTurns": 1
    }
  },
  "agents": {
    "defaults": {
      "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace",
      "timeoutSeconds": 3600,
      "verboseDefault": "full",

#

      "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
      "llm": {
        "idleTimeoutSeconds": 0
      },
      "subagents": {
        "maxSpawnDepth": 2,
        "runTimeoutSeconds": 900
      }
    },
    "list": [
      {
        "id": "main",
        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        },

#

        "subagents": {
          "allowAgents": ["onisuzume", "kamonegi", "pikachu"]
        }
      },
      {
        "id": "onisuzume",
        "name": "onisuzume",
        "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/onisuzume",
        "agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/onisuzume/agent",
        "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        }
      },
      {

#

        "id": "kamonegi",
        "name": "kamonegi",
        "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/kamonegi",
        "agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/kamonegi/agent",
        "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",
        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        }
      },
      {
        "id": "pikachu",
        "name": "pikachu",
        "workspace": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/workspace/pikachu",
        "agentDir": "/home/openclaw/.openclaw/agents/pikachu/agent",
        "model": "ollama/gemma4:e4b-h",

#

        "tools": {
          "profile": "full"
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

Then run:

openclaw doctor
openclaw gateway restart

#

If doctor comes back clean, you’re good. If it still complains, paste the new error and I’ll help trim the last bit.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:41 AM

#

◇ Doctor warnings ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮
│ │
│ - channels.discord.accounts.satoshi.groupPolicy is "allowlist" but groupAllowFrom (and │
│ allowFrom) is empty — all group messages will be silently dropped. Add sender IDs to │
│ channels.discord.accounts.satoshi.groupAllowFrom or │
│ channels.discord.accounts.satoshi.allowFrom, or set groupPolicy to "open". │
│ - channels.discord.accounts.onisuzume.groupPolicy is "allowlist" but groupAllowFrom (and │
│ allowFrom) is empty — all group messages will be silently dropped. Add sender IDs to │
│ channels.discord.accounts.onisuzume.groupAllowFrom or │
│ channels.discord.accounts.onisuzume.allowFrom, or set groupPolicy to "open". │
│ - channels.discord.accounts.pikachu.groupPolicy is "allowlist" but groupAllowFrom (and │
│ allowFrom) is empty — all group messages will be silently dropped. Add sender IDs to │
│ channels.discord.accounts.pikachu.groupAllowFrom or │
│ channels.discord.accounts.pikachu.allowFrom, or set groupPolicy to "open". │
│ │
├────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯

"bindings": [
{
"agentId": "onisuzume",
"match": {
"channel": "discord",
"accountId": "onisuzume"
}
},
{
"agentId": "pikachu",
"match": {
"channel": "discord",
"accountId": "pikachu"
}
}
],

I will pate my channels.discord after this .

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:42 AM

#

Yep, paste your channels.discord next.

Also, those warnings are separate from your agent/subagent config.
Your bindings look fine. The problem now is Discord group/channel access:

groupPolicy: "allowlist" is enabled
but groupAllowFrom / allowFrom is empty
so those Discord accounts will silently ignore server/channel messages

So for each Discord account, you need one of these:

Keep it locked down, add your Discord user id to allowFrom or groupAllowFrom
Make it broader, set groupPolicy: "open"

Example of the locked-down version:

#

{
  "channels": {
    "discord": {
      "accounts": {
        "onisuzume": {
          "groupPolicy": "allowlist",
          "allowFrom": ["347768170330849282"]
        },
        "pikachu": {
          "groupPolicy": "allowlist",
          "allowFrom": ["347768170330849282"]
        }
      }
    }
  }

#

If satoshi should also work in servers, do the same there.

So, short version:

bindings = routing, probably okay
channels.discord.accounts.*.groupPolicy/allowFrom = who is allowed to trigger the bot in Discord servers, currently blocking you

Paste your channels.discord block and I’ll help rewrite it cleanly.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:45 AM

#

"channels": {
"discord": {
"enabled": true,
"dm": {
"enabled": true
},
"allowBots": true,
"defaultAccount": "satoshi",
"accounts": {
"satoshi": {
"token": "BOT_1_TOKEN",
"groupPolicy": "allowlist",
"guilds": {
"SERVER_ID": {
"channels": {
"PRIVATE_BOT1_CHAT": {
"requireMention": false,
"enabled": true
},
"GENERAL_CHAT_ID": {
"requireMention": true,
"enabled": true
}
}
}
}
},
"onisuzume": {
"token": "BOT_2_TOKEN",
"groupPolicy": "allowlist",
"guilds": {
"SERVER_ID": {
"channels": {
"PRIVATE_BOT2_CHAT": {
"requireMention": false,
"enabled": true
},
"GENERAL_CHAT_ID": {
"requireMention": true,
"enabled": true
}
}
}
}
},
"pikachu": {
"token": "BOT_3_TOKEN",
"groupPolicy": "allowlist",
"guilds": {
"SERVER_ID": {
"channels": {
"PRIVATE_BOT3_CHAT": {
"requireMention": false,
"enabled": true
},
"GENERAL_CHAT_ID": {
"requireMention": true,
"enabled": true
}
}
}
}
},
"default": {
"groupPolicy": "open",
"dmPolicy": "allowlist",
"allowFrom": [
"MY_DC_ID",
"BOT_1_ID",
"BOT_2_ID",
"BOT_3_ID"
]
}
}
}
},

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:46 AM

#

Aha, I see the issue.

Your "default" block under channels.discord.accounts is not a shared defaults block.
It only applies to an account literally named "default".

So this part:

"accounts": {
  "default": {
    "groupPolicy": "open",
    "dmPolicy": "allowlist",
    "allowFrom": [...]
  }
}

#

does not get inherited by satoshi, onisuzume, or pikachu.

Fix

Move allowFrom (and optionally dmPolicy) to the top-level channels.discord block, or repeat it under each named account.

Here’s the clean rewrite:

"channels": {
  "discord": {
    "enabled": true,
    "dm": {
      "enabled": true
    },
    "dmPolicy": "allowlist",

#

    "allowBots": true,
    "defaultAccount": "satoshi",
    "allowFrom": [
      "MY_DC_ID",
      "BOT_1_ID",
      "BOT_2_ID",
      "BOT_3_ID"
    ],
    "accounts": {
      "satoshi": {
        "token": "BOT_1_TOKEN",
        "groupPolicy": "allowlist",
        "guilds": {
          "SERVER_ID": {
            "channels": {

#

              "PRIVATE_BOT1_CHAT": {
                "requireMention": false,
                "enabled": true
              },
              "GENERAL_CHAT_ID": {
                "requireMention": true,
                "enabled": true
              }
            }
          }
        }
      },
      "onisuzume": {
        "token": "BOT_2_TOKEN",
        "groupPolicy": "allowlist",

#

        "guilds": {
          "SERVER_ID": {
            "channels": {
              "PRIVATE_BOT2_CHAT": {
                "requireMention": false,
                "enabled": true
              },
              "GENERAL_CHAT_ID": {
                "requireMention": true,
                "enabled": true
              }
            }
          }
        }
      },

#

      "pikachu": {
        "token": "BOT_3_TOKEN",
        "groupPolicy": "allowlist",
        "guilds": {
          "SERVER_ID": {
            "channels": {
              "PRIVATE_BOT3_CHAT": {
                "requireMention": false,
                "enabled": true
              },
              "GENERAL_CHAT_ID": {
                "requireMention": true,
                "enabled": true
              }
            }

#

Important note

You probably only need:

"allowFrom": ["MY_DC_ID"]

#

unless you explicitly want bot-authored Discord messages to trigger other bots.
For internal OpenClaw agent-to-agent / subagent behavior, the bot IDs usually are not needed.

So I’d recommend starting with just your user ID first.

After updating it, run:

openclaw doctor
openclaw gateway restart

If you want, next I can combine this channels.discord block with your agents + tools config into one final full openclaw.json.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:47 AM

#

my Intnetion is bot should talk to each other in general chat

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:48 AM

#

Got it. That changes the answer a bit.

If your intention is visible bot-to-bot chatting in Discord general chat, then yes:

keep allowBots: true
include the bot user IDs in allowFrom
do not put that under accounts.default, put it at channels.discord.allowFrom
make sure the target channel is enabled for each bot account

Safer setup I’d recommend

Keep GENERAL_CHAT_ID as:

"GENERAL_CHAT_ID": {
  "requireMention": true,

#

  "enabled": true
}

and use:

"allowFrom": [
  "MY_DC_ID",
  "BOT_1_ID",
  "BOT_2_ID",
  "BOT_3_ID"
]

That lets bots respond to each other when explicitly mentioned / replied to, but avoids runaway chatter.

#

If you want autonomous bot-to-bot chatter in general

Then you’d need:

"GENERAL_CHAT_ID": {
  "requireMention": false,
  "enabled": true
}

But I’m a bit worried about that in a general channel, because it can create:

reply loops
spam storms
bots constantly re-triggering each other

#

So honestly, for that mode I’d use a dedicated bot channel, not general.

Recommended split

Internal agent collaboration: use sessions_send / sessions_spawn
Human-visible bot-to-bot chat: dedicated Discord bot channel
General chat: keep requireMention: true

So yes, if you really want bots to talk to each other in chat, keep the bot IDs in channels.discord.allowFrom.
Just don’t rely on accounts.default for that, it won’t inherit to the named accounts.

If you want, I can rewrite your full channels.discord block for the bot-to-bot in general chat case, with both:

safe mention-gated mode
autonomous mode

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:49 AM

#

oh that's I want

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:50 AM

#

Nice, then use the autonomous bot-to-bot version.

This is the channels.discord shape I’d use for that:

"channels": {
  "discord": {
    "enabled": true,
    "dm": {
      "enabled": true
    },
    "dmPolicy": "allowlist",
    "allowBots": true,
    "defaultAccount": "satoshi",
    "allowFrom": [
      "MY_DC_ID",

#

      "BOT_1_ID",
      "BOT_2_ID",
      "BOT_3_ID"
    ],
    "accounts": {
      "satoshi": {
        "token": "BOT_1_TOKEN",
        "groupPolicy": "allowlist",
        "guilds": {
          "SERVER_ID": {
            "channels": {
              "PRIVATE_BOT1_CHAT": {
                "requireMention": false,
                "enabled": true
              },

#

              "GENERAL_CHAT_ID": {
                "requireMention": false,
                "enabled": true
              }
            }
          }
        }
      },
      "onisuzume": {
        "token": "BOT_2_TOKEN",
        "groupPolicy": "allowlist",
        "guilds": {
          "SERVER_ID": {
            "channels": {
              "PRIVATE_BOT2_CHAT": {

#

                "requireMention": false,
                "enabled": true
              },
              "GENERAL_CHAT_ID": {
                "requireMention": false,
                "enabled": true
              }
            }
          }
        }
      },
      "pikachu": {
        "token": "BOT_3_TOKEN",
        "groupPolicy": "allowlist",
        "guilds": {

#

          "SERVER_ID": {
            "channels": {
              "PRIVATE_BOT3_CHAT": {
                "requireMention": false,
                "enabled": true
              },
              "GENERAL_CHAT_ID": {
                "requireMention": false,
                "enabled": true
              }
            }
          }
        }
      }
    }

#

}
}

Important changes:

allowFrom moved to top-level channels.discord.allowFrom
removed the fake "accounts.default" block
GENERAL_CHAT_ID.requireMention = false for all three bots
allowBots = true stays on

That should let the bots talk to each other in the shared general channel.

Two quick warnings:

This can absolutely create reply loops.

#

Start with a low-traffic test channel before using a real general channel.

After updating:

openclaw doctor
openclaw gateway restart

If you want, I can now merge this with your tools + session + agents blocks into one final full config.

flint pasture Apr 17, 2026, 9:50 AM

#

also bind that you provide above still need ? as well ?

brave rapidsBOT Apr 17, 2026, 9:51 AM

#

Yes, keep the bindings if you want each Discord account to map to a specific agent.

They do a different job:

channels.discord... = who can talk, which channels are allowed
bindings = which agent handles messages from each Discord account

So for your setup, I’d keep something like:

"bindings": [
  {
    "agentId": "main",
    "match": {
      "channel": "discord",
      "accountId": "satoshi"

#

    }
  },
  {
    "agentId": "onisuzume",
    "match": {
      "channel": "discord",
      "accountId": "onisuzume"
    }
  },
  {
    "agentId": "pikachu",
    "match": {
      "channel": "discord",
      "accountId": "pikachu"
    }

#

}
]

When bindings are needed

Keep them if you want:

satoshi bot account → main agent
onisuzume bot account → onisuzume agent
pikachu bot account → pikachu agent

When bindings are optional

If you remove them, traffic falls back to the default agent routing, so multiple accounts may end up hitting main, which is probably not what you want.

#agent-to-agent

Fix

Important note

Safer setup I’d recommend

If you want autonomous bot-to-bot chatter in general

Recommended split

When bindings are needed

When bindings are optional