#trading simulator
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Start with a paper trading engine, not a real broker integration first.
Core pieces you need:
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Market data feed
- Live prices via WebSocket/API
- For F&O, also ingest:
- underlying price
- full option chain
- expiry
- strike
- bid/ask, not just last traded price
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Instrument master
- Symbol, lot size, expiry, strike, option type
- Futures contract rollover rules
- Exchange calendar and trading hours
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Order simulator
- Accept buy/sell orders
- Simulate fills using:
- market price
- bid/ask spread
- slippage
- latency
- partial fills
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Position + ledger engine
- Track open positions
- Track average entry price
- Log every trade, fee, and margin change
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PnL engine
- Realized PnL for closed trades
- Unrealized PnL for open trades
- Subtract brokerage, taxes, exchange fees, slippage
Basic formulas:
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Futures PnL
PnL = (CurrentPrice - EntryPrice) × Qty × LotSize
Reverse sign for shorts -
Options PnL
PnL = (CurrentPremium - EntryPremium) × Qty × LotSize
Reverse for short options
- Risk + margin
- Capital used
- Available balance
- Margin blocked
- Max loss / max profit
- Stop loss / target / expiry settlement
- Database
Store:- ticks/candles
- orders
- fills
- positions
- portfolio snapshots
- daily PnL
Best architecture for MVP:
- Backend: Python + FastAPI
- Data stream: WebSocket consumer
- DB: PostgreSQL
- Cache/queue: Redis
- UI: React / Next.js
- Charts: TradingView widget or lightweight-charts
Suggested build order:
- Historical backtest engine
- Live market data viewer
- Paper order simulator
- PnL + fees + margin
- Option chain + expiry settlement
- Dashboard and reports
Important gotchas:
- Don’t use only LTP, use bid/ask
- Include fees and slippage, otherwise PnL is fake
- Handle expiry and option settlement
- Futures need rollover logic
- Short options need proper margin logic
If you want, I can sketch a database schema + Python service design for this next.
I want it in openclaw using agents/skills/workflows
Let me verify the local docs paths so I don’t make up OpenClaw details.
Yep, but I’d split it like this:
OpenClaw should be the orchestrator, not the exchange simulator.
Keep the actual market state, orders, fills, positions, and PnL in your own backend service or CLI. Then let OpenClaw agents use that via skills.
Good OpenClaw architecture
1. One dedicated agent
trading-analystorpaper-trader- job: analyze, decide, explain, summarize risk/PnL
2. 2 to 4 custom skills
Example skills:
market_data
gets quotes, candles, option chain, greekspaper_broker
place simulated buy/sell orders, cancel, view positions
pnl_reporter
realized/unrealized PnL, margin used, feesrisk_guard
position limits, stop-loss, max drawdown checks
3. One backend service as source of truth
Expose endpoints or a small CLI for:
get_quote(symbol)get_option_chain(underlying, expiry)simulate_order(side, instrument, qty, type)get_positions()get_pnl()mark_to_market()
Best workflow mapping in OpenClaw
- Skills = teach the agent when/how to use your simulator tools
Docs: https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/skills
Starter: https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/creating-skills
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Cron = scheduled checks
Example: every 1 min, every 5 min, market open/close
Docs: https://docs.openclaw.ai/automation/cron-jobs -
Task Flow = multi-step trading lifecycle
Example:- fetch market snapshot
- detect signal
- simulate order
- update PnL
- send summary
Docs: https://docs.openclaw.ai/automation/taskflow
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Webhooks = event-driven wakeups
Better than waking the model on every tick
Important design advice
Do not let the agent hold trading state in chat/session memory.
Use a DB/backend for:
- positions
- fills
- option contracts
- realized PnL
- unrealized MTM
- fees/slippage
Then OpenClaw just queries and acts on that state.
Recommended MVP
- backend: Python FastAPI or Node
- DB: Postgres
- live data ingestor: broker/data-provider WebSocket
- OpenClaw agent + skills on top
Flow I’d build first
- live market data ingestor runs continuously
- cron wakes OpenClaw every minute
- agent calls
market_data+paper_broker - backend computes trade fill + MTM
- agent sends “you are up/down X” summary
If you want “true live”
Don’t poll OpenClaw every second.
Keep a separate market listener service running, and only wake OpenClaw on:
- price threshold hit