Rico Archipelago Map | Official OpenTTD Discord | Page 1

tulip scarab Jul 27, 2023, 3:39 PM

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Game using the meandering islands heightmap by klutz where I focus on creating a large, timetabled network using trains, buses and ferries.

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new channel time

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relevant maps

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currently working on adding buses here

river wind Jul 27, 2023, 3:51 PM

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Rico channel time

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Good map

red knot Jul 27, 2023, 4:14 PM

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Finally the Rico game journal has arrived

stiff hatch Jul 27, 2023, 6:53 PM

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Rico jounral finally

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this will jsut be full of maps

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No zoomedin screens. just maps lol

tulip scarab Jul 27, 2023, 8:12 PM

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yes

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bus 156

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this will be a thick line

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rare half hourly bus

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also because niebert gets 20/40 spread of trains some of the buses sometimes dont connect

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bus 160

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even dikker

stiff hatch Jul 27, 2023, 8:40 PM

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You need a vosseberg TGV station

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with a navette to niebert bahnhof

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station should be located slightly more out of town though, so no direc tusage, only with a shitty bus

tulip scarab Jul 27, 2023, 8:53 PM

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ahh this timetable doesnt work by like 5 minutes

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this bus will get an 11 minute wait somewhere

tulip scarab Jul 27, 2023, 9:11 PM

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knoop

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thick lines are 2bph

tulip scarab Jul 27, 2023, 11:25 PM

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stiff hatch Jul 28, 2023, 11:23 AM

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what are the ferry lines?

tulip scarab Jul 28, 2023, 2:14 PM

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main ferries rn

tulip scarab Jul 28, 2023, 2:31 PM

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bus 165 🔥

tulip scarab Jul 28, 2023, 5:16 PM

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@warm jewel rate buses

warm jewel Jul 28, 2023, 5:27 PM

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is 171 needed

tulip scarab Jul 28, 2023, 5:52 PM

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There's no station there so yes

tulip scarab Jul 28, 2023, 9:33 PM

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@versed cairn service map

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thcik is 2tph

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thin is 1tph

versed cairn Jul 29, 2023, 4:24 AM

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Yay new service map dropped

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These are nice to just study

stiff hatch Jul 29, 2023, 7:28 AM

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How many maps do you keep for each game?

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there are bus maps, trains maps, timetable maps...

maiden portal Jul 29, 2023, 6:11 PM

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How do you make the maps?

vivid saffron Jul 29, 2023, 6:44 PM

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i use a web, idk how Rico made theirs tho

tulip scarab Jul 29, 2023, 9:59 PM

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Inkscape

tulip scarab Jul 30, 2023, 12:27 PM

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ferries

warm jewel Jul 30, 2023, 12:33 PM

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this is a very cool area

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some of the islands on the left are a bit long to the mainland

tulip scarab Jul 30, 2023, 12:35 PM

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sucks to be them

warm jewel Jul 30, 2023, 12:35 PM

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you could do this better I think

tulip scarab Jul 30, 2023, 12:36 PM

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how

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im not really gonna timetable the boats to connect to anything

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they will just kinda go

warm jewel Jul 30, 2023, 12:49 PM

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you could have terheijden boats

stiff hatch Jul 30, 2023, 1:50 PM

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thats a lot of towns

tulip scarab Jul 30, 2023, 4:27 PM

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ok the left most ferry will be 1bp2h

tulip scarab Jul 30, 2023, 4:58 PM

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molenhoek boats will have awful spread

warm jewel Jul 30, 2023, 4:59 PM

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is it like

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four at once and then nothing for an hour

tulip scarab Jul 30, 2023, 4:59 PM

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5/2/58/2/53

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this is because train connections

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the train-ferry connection is kinda too short I think

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some are 3 minutes

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but im just gonna keep it like this

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I could also fix the spread I think but have longer transfers to the train

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I think a 40 minute transfer isnt that bad for a long distance ferry

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I shouldnt be thinking too hard

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because the trains arrive at annoying times too

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xx03, xx03, xx10 (ic), xx33, xx54 (ic)

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I will have the boats leave at

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xx08 (local, only in uneven hours), xx13 (local), xx22 (long distance 3 different directions at once)

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this is yes

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actually 22 becauset thats when others leave too

tulip scarab Jul 30, 2023, 6:55 PM

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bootknoop bootknoop

tulip scarab Jul 30, 2023, 7:36 PM

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ok I made something cool

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loop

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at the point where the loop touches itself theres a cross platform transfer to the loop the other way around

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warm jewel Jul 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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very nice

tulip scarab Jul 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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I think this is how the Zoetermeer stadslijn works

warm jewel Jul 30, 2023, 8:04 PM

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it does

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krakeling

tulip scarab Jul 30, 2023, 8:07 PM

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If you're lazy you can blijf zitten

warm jewel Jul 30, 2023, 8:09 PM

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yeah

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just like school

stiff hatch Jul 31, 2023, 7:04 AM

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tulip scarab I think this is how the Zoetermeer stadslijn works

you need to alternate each train to go clockwise or anticlockwise over the loop too

tulip scarab Jul 31, 2023, 7:05 AM

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I thought about this

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This is totally possible with 1tp2h

tulip scarab Aug 1, 2023, 1:25 PM

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eilandbaan

tulip scarab Aug 1, 2023, 1:43 PM

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tulip scarab Aug 1, 2023, 2:03 PM

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secondary ferries

vivid saffron Aug 1, 2023, 8:11 PM

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tulip scarab eilandbaan

what does this mean? are these stations, cities...?

tulip scarab Aug 2, 2023, 2:45 AM

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Stations

tulip scarab Aug 2, 2023, 3:39 PM

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I leg in an extra trein

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this is because evl will get ferries

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and the trains are kinda busy already

tulip scarab Aug 2, 2023, 4:08 PM

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two hourly boat

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this one also just terminates at a bus stop

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@warm jewel should this exist

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the nice things about boats is that you can kinda make them infinitely infrequent

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I can just have this 4-hourly

warm jewel Aug 2, 2023, 4:36 PM

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yeah

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Vlieland Texel and Vlieland Terschelling ferries exist

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though I think Vlieland Terschelling might be a belboot for some afvaarten?

stiff hatch Aug 2, 2023, 7:48 PM

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only Vlieland-Terschellign is a somehwat normal ferry. just because by coincidence it's a triagle route sometimes. Ther ar eno other interistland ferries in waddenzee. Only watertaxi's (which are expensive as fuck)

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and ther are some summer wadden tours that may stopoff at both islands.

tulip scarab Aug 3, 2023, 2:57 AM

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This will use a big boat I think

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But by making it very infrequent you can kinda fill it up

tulip scarab Aug 20, 2023, 5:59 PM

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stiff hatch Aug 20, 2023, 6:51 PM

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nieuwstraat 2 routes to iniaheide

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this is like Rang-de-fliers and Etaples le touquet

tulip scarab Aug 20, 2023, 7:12 PM

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trein 81

tulip scarab Aug 20, 2023, 7:44 PM

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IC9 half hourly

warm jewel Aug 20, 2023, 7:56 PM

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tulip scarab

good

tulip scarab Aug 21, 2023, 11:45 AM

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tulip scarab Aug 21, 2023, 3:27 PM

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@warm jewel station kommerzijl

stiff hatch Aug 21, 2023, 3:27 PM

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barren place.. very noord-oost groningen vibe

tulip scarab Aug 21, 2023, 3:28 PM

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its between larger towns

stiff hatch Aug 21, 2023, 3:28 PM

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Also bad... this are the first non-map screens here

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this should be closed and get belbus

warm jewel Aug 21, 2023, 3:38 PM

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Kommerzijl is nw Groningen irl

tulip scarab Aug 21, 2023, 3:44 PM

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yes

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kommerzijl has rare buses I think

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we should take this teun

river wind Aug 21, 2023, 3:49 PM

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Huub

stiff hatch Aug 21, 2023, 3:59 PM

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@tulip scarab you should use this.. this is a very frnehc timetable.

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warm jewel Aug 21, 2023, 4:01 PM

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this is a good lien

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I hope it’s successful

tulip scarab Aug 21, 2023, 4:28 PM

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I don't care about rrreis

tulip scarab Aug 21, 2023, 5:30 PM

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sorry

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stiff hatch Aug 21, 2023, 6:15 PM

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so many islands to do still. will one get just a narrow gauge or tram network?

tulip scarab Aug 21, 2023, 6:25 PM

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I dont have narrow guage

tulip scarab Aug 23, 2023, 6:18 PM

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awful knoop

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bus 175

tulip scarab Aug 23, 2023, 6:39 PM

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bus 176

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bus 177

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this is two hourly bus

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actually this doesnt work

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I think I will need this three hourly

stiff hatch Aug 23, 2023, 6:57 PM

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make it spits only and then one middle day

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like 206 Harderwijk-amersfoort

tulip scarab Aug 23, 2023, 6:58 PM

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I dont simulate spits

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also it only connects on the left side

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to the train

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on the right side you can change for the bus

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25 and 44 minute transfers

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train is 6

tulip scarab Aug 23, 2023, 7:17 PM

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tulip scarab 25 and 44 minute transfers

Only every 3 hours though

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Otherwise it's 85, 104, 145 or 164 minute transfer

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It's not long, it's ruim

stiff hatch Aug 23, 2023, 7:20 PM

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it's good

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this is how the frenhc would run it

tulip scarab Aug 23, 2023, 7:43 PM

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@warm jewel rate buses

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white are existing connecting buses

warm jewel Aug 23, 2023, 7:45 PM

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187 is cool

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do people use 185

tulip scarab Aug 23, 2023, 7:46 PM

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I dont know

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I havent made these yet

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185 will be 2-hourly

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this goes from nowhere to nowhere

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no train station bus

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I could make a very long doorkoppeling

tulip scarab Aug 27, 2023, 6:51 PM

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I need more 2 car trains on my map

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I'll investigate where this is possible

ancient creek Aug 27, 2023, 7:51 PM

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Have shitty branches

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Uk belgium style

tulip scarab Aug 27, 2023, 8:07 PM

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2-car able services

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I basically dont have branches

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or like

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things that terminate

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unless they are at the coast

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this place is kinda weird

warm jewel Aug 27, 2023, 8:11 PM

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pretty bad

tulip scarab Aug 27, 2023, 8:12 PM

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why

tulip scarab Aug 27, 2023, 8:38 PM

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I think ill do this island next

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im gonna have lore for this

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basically this island will get a bad rail network

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have two lines

river wind Aug 27, 2023, 8:48 PM

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Hey that rail network reminds me of something

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🤔

tulip scarab Aug 27, 2023, 8:49 PM

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actually I will do other islands first

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this group

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white is likely rail lines

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warm jewel Aug 27, 2023, 8:58 PM

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this looks pretty good

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would that orange extention beat the train you think

tulip scarab Aug 27, 2023, 8:59 PM

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idk

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but that island is pretty big

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and otherwise you would have boat+train+boat+train

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plus the island lines will get a pretty slow line speed

warm jewel Aug 27, 2023, 9:00 PM

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what about something like this also

tulip scarab Aug 27, 2023, 9:00 PM

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yeah I added that too

warm jewel Aug 27, 2023, 9:00 PM

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nice

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actually the orange like is kinda good

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good connection between the yellow and red islands

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one or two boat transfers

tulip scarab Aug 27, 2023, 9:03 PM

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I could also make the orange boat stop an extra time

warm jewel Aug 27, 2023, 9:03 PM

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and maybe a faster way to the peninsula too

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if that doesnt slow it down too much yea

tulip scarab Aug 27, 2023, 9:04 PM

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I could also make a seperate express boat

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like the green

warm jewel Aug 27, 2023, 9:06 PM

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hmhm

tulip scarab Aug 30, 2023, 2:04 PM

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island bus

tulip scarab Aug 30, 2023, 5:06 PM

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warm jewel Aug 30, 2023, 5:19 PM

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lage nummers

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rico wadden

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ferries should be on the train map i think

tulip scarab Aug 30, 2023, 5:33 PM

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Maybe yeah

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Also the numbers reset
S at every island

warm jewel Aug 30, 2023, 5:38 PM

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s

tulip scarab Aug 31, 2023, 6:09 PM

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bus 2

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bus 4 (I hate)

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I just dont like loop lines but it really made sense here

warm jewel Aug 31, 2023, 6:37 PM

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nice

tulip scarab Aug 31, 2023, 6:41 PM

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also half hourly ic's suck

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because connections

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I will make this bus in the other half hour now to fill the trains

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the bus will be bad

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10 minute stop in waspik

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13 minutes in velp

warm jewel Aug 31, 2023, 6:44 PM

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not great

tulip scarab Aug 31, 2023, 6:45 PM

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this is for short train connections

warm jewel Aug 31, 2023, 6:48 PM

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i guess its fine

tulip scarab Aug 31, 2023, 6:53 PM

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island hopping is pretty cool in this area

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only 7 transfers

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this is probably faster

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but you just shouldnt do this

warm jewel Aug 31, 2023, 6:59 PM

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nice

tulip scarab Aug 31, 2023, 7:23 PM

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a lot of people are doing this

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I dont like

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the alternative is pretty bad

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boat map

warm jewel Aug 31, 2023, 7:34 PM

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nummers

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F en P

tulip scarab Aug 31, 2023, 7:36 PM

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F is long distance P is local

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kind of

tulip scarab Sep 1, 2023, 8:20 PM

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knoop

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horrible stoptrein

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this goes from nowhere to nowhere

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but this exists because large empty area

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and it needs to connect

tulip scarab Sep 1, 2023, 8:54 PM

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tulip scarab Sep 1, 2023, 9:47 PM

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updated map

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@warm jewel

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open in browser for full resolution

warm jewel Sep 1, 2023, 9:49 PM

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thank you

tulip scarab Sep 1, 2023, 9:55 PM

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the ferries make this a lot more coherent

warm jewel Sep 1, 2023, 9:57 PM

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yea

tulip scarab Sep 1, 2023, 9:58 PM

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I didnt add the dumb ones

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only long distance ferries between large islands with train connections

versed cairn Sep 2, 2023, 1:50 AM

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Rico's archipelago map is one of the few things that bring me joy in a complex world

tulip scarab Sep 2, 2023, 8:27 AM

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I'm honoured

tulip scarab Sep 2, 2023, 10:36 AM

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island trains

warm jewel Sep 2, 2023, 10:38 AM

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Borkum

tulip scarab Sep 3, 2023, 4:21 PM

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cool ferries are 20% of income on this map

warm jewel Sep 3, 2023, 4:29 PM

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nice

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that seems like a lot

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I guess they are just always very long distances

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which pays well per passenger

tulip scarab Sep 3, 2023, 4:31 PM

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this is the most profitable line

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which makes sense

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this is 1 out of 2 half hourly ferries

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this is the other one

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I guess this one is popular because its pretty short

warm jewel Sep 3, 2023, 4:33 PM

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thats also the og island you started right

tulip scarab Sep 3, 2023, 4:33 PM

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yes

warm jewel Sep 3, 2023, 4:33 PM

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so it has the most complete network really

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and it’s like the second largest you’re serving I think

tulip scarab Sep 3, 2023, 4:34 PM

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bus coverage is pretty good

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yellow is a bus

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long island is larger but has like zero cities

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this is the largest town

warm jewel Sep 3, 2023, 4:37 PM

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Hor

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single track diesel mainline

tulip scarab Sep 3, 2023, 4:38 PM

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I dont know if you could call this a mainline

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this is just the line

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I basically have three categories of islands

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these are used for my numbers too

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train 1-23 is on island 1

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but only single digit islands can have express trains, and only single and double digit islands can have trains at all

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triple digit cant have trains except for rare exceptions

warm jewel Sep 3, 2023, 4:44 PM

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understandable

versed cairn Sep 4, 2023, 5:50 AM

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Nice

tulip scarab Sep 5, 2023, 5:05 PM

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im gonna use double single track somewhere

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I hate myself

river wind Sep 5, 2023, 5:05 PM

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double single track?

tulip scarab Sep 5, 2023, 5:05 PM

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I will send a map of what im doing later

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its very cursed

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but it will be cool

tulip scarab Sep 5, 2023, 5:24 PM

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green and red will depart at the same time connecting to the boat

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and they will arrive at the terminus at the same time to connect to another boat

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warm jewel Sep 5, 2023, 6:49 PM

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cant you just have like block distance between them

tulip scarab Sep 5, 2023, 8:31 PM

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I could but I wont

autumn dew Sep 7, 2023, 1:00 PM

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where could one get this heightmap?

tulip scarab Sep 11, 2023, 2:42 PM

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in game downloads

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27 minute transfer to a boat is alright right

tulip scarab Sep 11, 2023, 3:35 PM

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@warm jewel @versed cairn

warm jewel Sep 11, 2023, 3:36 PM

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so cool

versed cairn Sep 11, 2023, 11:00 PM

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Very nice

tulip scarab Sep 12, 2023, 7:26 PM

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warm jewel Sep 12, 2023, 9:20 PM

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are there more railways planned on the big island still

tulip scarab Sep 12, 2023, 9:24 PM

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Only here

ancient creek Sep 12, 2023, 10:10 PM

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this is like cornwall

warm jewel Sep 12, 2023, 10:25 PM

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good

tulip scarab Sep 13, 2023, 4:09 PM

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I need to add more buses

warm jewel Sep 13, 2023, 5:52 PM

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yes

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which area

tulip scarab Sep 14, 2023, 6:58 PM

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warm jewel Sep 14, 2023, 8:16 PM

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@tulip scarab which year did you start

autumn dew Sep 14, 2023, 11:14 PM

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how do you plan your routes? like, which do you make a mainline and which do you make a branch line?

tulip scarab Sep 15, 2023, 2:40 AM

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I just map all the largest 2000+ cities on the map and link those

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Those are mainlines

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Then I look for 1000+ towns and link those to the large cities for branch lines

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My methodology is also that I don't allow terminus stations unless there's a geographical boundary like water

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So everything starts or end in a large city or town

tulip scarab Sep 15, 2023, 2:48 AM

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warm jewel <@194488218400456706> which year did you start

2020

tulip scarab Sep 15, 2023, 4:17 PM

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bus 180a

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bus 180b

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this was planned as one line but I knipped it because connections to trains

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180a to 180b people have a 45 minute transfer

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bus 181

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bus 182

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bus 183

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bus 184

tulip scarab Sep 15, 2023, 5:04 PM

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bus 185

ancient creek Sep 15, 2023, 5:08 PM

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Rico, these numbers are too high

tulip scarab Sep 15, 2023, 5:11 PM

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every line number must be unique becuase otherwise I cant find it in the list

ancient creek Sep 15, 2023, 5:13 PM

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You should randomly skip numbers

tulip scarab Sep 15, 2023, 5:13 PM

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I do this sometimes

warm jewel Sep 15, 2023, 5:58 PM

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rico what is the lowest number of bus that doesn’t exist

tulip scarab Sep 15, 2023, 5:58 PM

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I can look this up

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I don't have zin now

warm jewel Sep 15, 2023, 6:03 PM

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nice

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in NL it’s 118

tulip scarab Sep 16, 2023, 11:17 AM

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@warm jewel buses

warm jewel Sep 16, 2023, 12:14 PM

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bussen

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Ik ben geen fan van station kerkdorp

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dit is lage zwaluwe

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does line 195 stop at Vaesrade

tulip scarab Sep 16, 2023, 1:43 PM

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warm jewel does line 195 stop at Vaesrade

Yes

tulip scarab Sep 16, 2023, 1:43 PM

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warm jewel Ik ben geen fan van station kerkdorp

It's not good no

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But this is a logical place

tulip scarab Sep 17, 2023, 12:50 PM

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EXPANDED map @warm jewel

warm jewel Sep 17, 2023, 12:58 PM

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bussen

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137

tulip scarab Sep 17, 2023, 1:06 PM

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137 isnt in this pic

autumn dew Sep 17, 2023, 2:19 PM

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tulip scarab I just map all the largest 2000+ cities on the map and link those

2000+ means population right?

tulip scarab Sep 17, 2023, 2:20 PM

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yes

autumn dew Sep 17, 2023, 2:21 PM

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what do you do about industries?

tulip scarab Sep 17, 2023, 2:25 PM

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nothing

autumn dew Sep 17, 2023, 2:45 PM

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oh

tulip scarab Sep 17, 2023, 6:30 PM

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city growth plans

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orange is 3k and red is 4k

ancient creek Sep 17, 2023, 7:12 PM

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s baan?

tulip scarab Sep 17, 2023, 7:14 PM

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doesnt make sense at the scale of my map

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kinda like how s baan in nl doesnt make sense

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I sort of half half hourly ic's on main axes

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half hourly ic net

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this will be added 'soon'

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but there isnt really demand for this

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 10:21 AM

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bus 188

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this will be 1bp2h

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 10:42 AM

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bus 198

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bus 199

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:14 PM

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bus 189

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very bad

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:19 PM

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extra halte in zijdijk bitte

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:19 PM

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no

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:19 PM

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and halte in kilder

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:20 PM

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kilder will get a different line

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:21 PM

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very uncool rico

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:23 PM

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ive done the bus maths

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ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:23 PM

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Me from belangenvereniging bussen Kilder want a bus stop in Kilder to De Mortel

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:24 PM

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wait one sec

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bus 190

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:25 PM

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but where is my bus service to de mortel

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:26 PM

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bus 189 goes to de mortel

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de mortel is served

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:26 PM

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from kilder?

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:26 PM

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no

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:26 PM

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BOOOOOO

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:26 PM

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transfer

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:26 PM

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transfer are bad

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:26 PM

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cry about it

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:27 PM

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rico is not good at omgevingsmanagement

warm jewel Sep 18, 2023, 6:27 PM

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dit is gewoon kut

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:27 PM

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not every connection needs a direct bus

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:27 PM

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de omgevingswet will vile you alive rico

warm jewel Sep 18, 2023, 6:28 PM

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moet uilensprong-de mortel een bus hebben dan

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:28 PM

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(when it finally gets introduced)

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:28 PM

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warm jewel moet uilensprong-de mortel een bus hebben dan

Kilder- de mortel

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:28 PM

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moet is een groot woord

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situatie

warm jewel Sep 18, 2023, 6:28 PM

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je moet eigenlijk

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:28 PM

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je wilt niet overbedienen

warm jewel Sep 18, 2023, 6:28 PM

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een halte uilensprong provinciale weg hebben

ancient creek Sep 18, 2023, 6:29 PM

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Teun is thinking in mobiliteitshubs

warm jewel Sep 18, 2023, 6:29 PM

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en dan de 189 en 190 doorkoppellen in kilder

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:29 PM

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maar dan kan je niet meer naar uilesprong station

warm jewel Sep 18, 2023, 6:29 PM

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prima

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:29 PM

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helemaal niet prima

warm jewel Sep 18, 2023, 6:29 PM

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reis om via zijldijk

tulip scarab Sep 18, 2023, 6:30 PM

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uitlesprong is een bus-trein knoop

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bus 190 heeft helle lekker keertijden

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dit is kut maar ik ga dit gewoon doen

tulip scarab Sep 20, 2023, 1:38 PM

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bus 193

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bus 194

autumn dew Sep 20, 2023, 2:05 PM

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tulip scarab Then I look for 1000+ towns and link those to the large cities for branch lines

how do you plan buses? do you choose the towns below 1000?

tulip scarab Sep 20, 2023, 2:50 PM

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I connect every town by bus

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Usually to the closest train stations

autumn dew Sep 20, 2023, 6:16 PM

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What if there's already a train between 2 towns though?

tulip scarab Sep 20, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Then you don't

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I serve every town not connected by rail by bus

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And very large towns and cities will get their own city bus

warm jewel Sep 20, 2023, 8:17 PM

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which city bus systems exist currently

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and are there some still planned?

tulip scarab Sep 20, 2023, 8:21 PM

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Every 2000+ city

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None of them are interesting

warm jewel Sep 20, 2023, 8:27 PM

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cool

stiff hatch Sep 20, 2023, 8:38 PM

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french moment
2000 peeps for a city bus

tulip scarab Sep 24, 2023, 4:22 PM

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bus 197

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this line is short enough to be half hourly

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bus 200

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bus 208

warm jewel Sep 24, 2023, 4:40 PM

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nice

tulip scarab Sep 24, 2023, 4:46 PM

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bus 201

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bus 204|205

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this will be a rough 20/40 spread via the two different towns

warm jewel Sep 24, 2023, 5:07 PM

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fun

tulip scarab Sep 24, 2023, 5:08 PM

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good transfer to the other town at SchK

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trains here

warm jewel Sep 24, 2023, 5:09 PM

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grf

tulip scarab Sep 24, 2023, 5:09 PM

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also here, although one bus doesnt connect as the train is only hourly

tulip scarab Sep 24, 2023, 8:25 PM

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How does cargo work in this game

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What's the meta

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Do you just randomly send things to the closest accepting industry

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Or do you bundle in terminals and then send cargo long distance

river wind Sep 24, 2023, 8:30 PM

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Big long distance trains are cool

warm jewel Sep 24, 2023, 8:41 PM

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it depends i think

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but in general the spread of like

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cargoes and destinations

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doesnt allow for much of a like

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transfer option

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but you can have a train drop off cargo in multiple places roughly in the same direction

tulip scarab Sep 25, 2023, 5:21 AM

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I think bundling in terminals for medium long distance would be best

warm jewel Sep 25, 2023, 7:08 AM

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you should map what cargo wants to go where

tulip scarab Sep 25, 2023, 8:41 AM

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Well cargo doesn't really want anything unless you turn distribution on

warm jewel Sep 25, 2023, 8:44 AM

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well it wants to go to some destination

river wind Sep 25, 2023, 8:50 AM

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Coal doesn't want to go to farms

warm jewel Sep 25, 2023, 8:58 AM

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yea

tulip scarab Sep 25, 2023, 9:23 AM

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Mapping this would just look like a web

tulip scarab Sep 25, 2023, 6:16 PM

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I will just not do freight

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plan

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this island will have no electrified track at all

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plus single track mainlines

autumn dew Sep 25, 2023, 6:34 PM

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do you have roads between towns?

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err

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i mean, is the setting to have roads between towns pre-built on?

tulip scarab Sep 25, 2023, 6:35 PM

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no

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 7:19 AM

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@warm jewel buses

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 7:53 AM

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warm jewel Sep 26, 2023, 7:53 AM

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bussen

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idk if k like croy bus

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the railways are pretty cool

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 8:16 AM

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warm jewel Sep 26, 2023, 8:25 AM

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are 4 and 1 equally relevant

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 8:27 AM

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4 is stoptrein

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1 is ic

warm jewel Sep 26, 2023, 8:29 AM

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nice

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3 en 2 sneltrein?

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 8:30 AM

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sort of yes

warm jewel Sep 26, 2023, 8:30 AM

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2200

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 8:30 AM

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2 and 3 are more IC but stoptrein after a certain station

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5 is kind of IC too

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I considered making a stoptrein for this route but this would save like 2 stops

warm jewel Sep 26, 2023, 8:46 AM

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how many 2k+ cities do you have btw

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 9:36 AM

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I don't know

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I have class now

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Maybe I'll check later

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 2:44 PM

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im gonna add an extra line

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warm jewel Sep 26, 2023, 2:48 PM

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this is cool

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where are the stations going to be

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 2:50 PM

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bad places

ancient creek Sep 26, 2023, 2:50 PM

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you should have a mobiliteitshub

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 2:51 PM

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awful

ancient creek Sep 26, 2023, 2:51 PM

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rico civil engineering

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 2:55 PM

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this line serves like one town effectively

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but his exists more really to connect regios

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I now have a good mesh to make buses

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I need to kill as many termini as possible

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although it would also be cool if this line didnt exist

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and I just had extremely long buses

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@warm jewel opinion

warm jewel Sep 26, 2023, 3:02 PM

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hmm

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on buses

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or on this line

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 3:02 PM

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on this line

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should this exist

warm jewel Sep 26, 2023, 3:02 PM

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not sure

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i think its fine

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theres places irl like this

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but they usually have random stations so that you can at least get near towns

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i think if the trains fill up its fine

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if it does poorly maybe close it again

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 3:04 PM

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I expect this to have very poor vervoerswaarde

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 3:24 PM

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I wonder what line has the least pax

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on the map

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is there a good way to see this

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I guess average order occupancy

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but this depends on train length

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this kinda works

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4%

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but this is just because this area doesnt have buses yet

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the least used one in developed territory is this one

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13%

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14%

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17%

warm jewel Sep 26, 2023, 4:38 PM

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Hof Hbf

tulip scarab Sep 26, 2023, 4:47 PM

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Yes

tulip scarab Oct 1, 2023, 1:33 PM

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@warm jewel how do you feel about this

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also cool how boat+train+boat is faster than just boat

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nobody is taking the express boat

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I dont want people to do this

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noordoostbootnet

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I'm gonna put hovercrafts on the express boat

warm jewel Oct 1, 2023, 2:12 PM

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tulip scarab

not good

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this makes think of 195

tulip scarab Oct 1, 2023, 2:17 PM

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How else should I do this

warm jewel Oct 1, 2023, 2:21 PM

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two lines that do the full route i think

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one fast and one slow

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but idk if this works out timing wise

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it should right

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if the bus connects

tulip scarab Oct 1, 2023, 2:22 PM

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The fast line will be hourly or more

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The slow line has to get like minimale bediening

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So maybe like 1bp2h

warm jewel Oct 1, 2023, 2:22 PM

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i guess you cant treat the fast bus as like

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an extra slow bus

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other way to do it

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you know the veluwelijn right

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actually

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idk this minimale bediening seems a little bit like the problem

tulip scarab Oct 1, 2023, 2:25 PM

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I only want to run buses I can fill

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I'll do the maths at home

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Because if the yellow line needs 2bph I can have parallelity

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Although 2bph doesn't even really make sense because the train is 1tph

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Maybe have the slow line do the whole is good

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But at a lower frequency

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So I'll just have 1bp2h/1bp3h

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I only want to use one vehicle for this

warm jewel Oct 1, 2023, 2:36 PM

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nice

tulip scarab Oct 2, 2023, 10:31 AM

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NIEUW: de stoptrein stroodorp-valom rijdt nu ook door naar witdonk haven

warm jewel Oct 2, 2023, 10:31 AM

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mooi zo

tulip scarab Oct 2, 2023, 10:31 AM

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this is because the other stoptrein had like a bezettingsgraad of 80%

warm jewel Oct 2, 2023, 10:31 AM

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drgl welk jaar

tulip scarab Oct 2, 2023, 10:32 AM

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and witdonk has important ferries

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drgl2951

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witdonk boten

warm jewel Oct 2, 2023, 10:33 AM

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boten

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how are those tiny islands

tulip scarab Oct 2, 2023, 10:35 AM

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stopboten

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warm jewel Oct 2, 2023, 10:37 AM

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mooi

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P17-1

tulip scarab Oct 2, 2023, 1:57 PM

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Ja

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Er is een bootknoop daar

tulip scarab Oct 5, 2023, 11:37 AM

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I'm gonna play ttd tonight

warm jewel Oct 5, 2023, 11:58 AM

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veel plezier

river wind Oct 5, 2023, 12:35 PM

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How real are boat transfers irl?

tulip scarab Oct 5, 2023, 12:55 PM

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I don't know

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I vaguely coordinate them

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But I don't really mind if boats don't really connect well

river wind Oct 5, 2023, 1:01 PM

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I kinda expect them not to exist

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Because having to transfer ferries is bad

warm jewel Oct 5, 2023, 1:51 PM

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I think this happens in Croatia

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and like Åland

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tulip scarab Oct 5, 2023, 2:27 PM

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If your archipelago is too messy it's pretty unavoidable to have a nice bad ferry system

tulip scarab Oct 5, 2023, 5:27 PM

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bus 1

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bus 2

tulip scarab Oct 7, 2023, 4:19 PM

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bus 4

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bus 5

tulip scarab Oct 7, 2023, 4:37 PM

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bus 6

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bus 7

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bus 8

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te lange streeklijnen

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this will cost a lot of dru's

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I will 1bp2h this if demand is low enough

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bus 9

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bus 8 isnt 1bp2hable

tulip scarab Oct 9, 2023, 10:41 AM

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all two hourly buses

stiff hatch Oct 9, 2023, 12:30 PM

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add some school bussen

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2bpd

tulip scarab Oct 16, 2023, 5:58 PM

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bus 13 1bph

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bus 14 1bph

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bus 15 1bph

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bus 16 1bph

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@ancient creek opinion on omlopen die langer stilstaan dan rijden

warm jewel Oct 16, 2023, 6:37 PM

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eiland?

tulip scarab Oct 16, 2023, 7:11 PM

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j

warm jewel Oct 16, 2023, 7:14 PM

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dit station had mogelijk beter geplaatst kunnen zijn

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oh wacht tunnel

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bende

tulip scarab Oct 22, 2023, 5:20 PM

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@warm jewel busdiensten

warm jewel Oct 22, 2023, 5:38 PM

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busdiensten

tulip scarab Oct 22, 2023, 5:44 PM

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please rate

warm jewel Oct 22, 2023, 5:45 PM

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this mostly looks fine

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knip borgharen

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what’s the point of the station before Engeland

versed cairn Oct 22, 2023, 6:53 PM

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Good question

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Eelderwolde parkway?

warm jewel Oct 22, 2023, 7:01 PM

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doesnt get a bus

tulip scarab Oct 22, 2023, 9:15 PM

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the trains pass there

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also borghare is a big city

warm jewel Oct 22, 2023, 9:44 PM

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passing loop stations

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these exist in cool countries

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actually also in nl

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this is klarenbeek and dronryp

tulip scarab Oct 29, 2023, 8:10 PM

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I lied

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im gonna play ttd now

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bus 1

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bus 2

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bus 1 and 2 just dont connect

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because bus 1 connects to the ferry and bus 2 to the train

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this is gonna be a good 40 minute transfer

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also bus 2 will be 2-hourly

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stiff hatch Oct 29, 2023, 8:28 PM

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Tusveld Woud

tulip scarab Oct 29, 2023, 8:28 PM

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bus and trains meet there

stiff hatch Oct 29, 2023, 8:28 PM

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i don't like the english prefix

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make it Woud

tulip scarab Oct 29, 2023, 8:29 PM

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I changed it to tusveld

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and the bus stop to tusveld dorp

stiff hatch Oct 29, 2023, 8:31 PM

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I should play a rico archipelago map...

tulip scarab Oct 29, 2023, 8:35 PM

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bus 5

stiff hatch Oct 29, 2023, 8:36 PM

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this shouldn't exist

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or be a horse car for tourist becasue car free island

tulip scarab Oct 29, 2023, 8:37 PM

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bus 4

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bus 1

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bus 2

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aansluiting

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knoop

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stiff hatch Oct 29, 2023, 8:59 PM

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needs more eyecandy

tulip scarab Oct 29, 2023, 8:59 PM

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yes but I dont enjoy creating eyecandy

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so many knopen

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red knot Oct 29, 2023, 9:27 PM

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Love the knoop action shots

ancient creek Oct 29, 2023, 9:27 PM

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@tulip scarab what is your most dissapointing GTW service

tulip scarab Oct 29, 2023, 9:28 PM

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I dont think I really use gtw

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this is the servoce with the lowest overall passenger numbers

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shortest service

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but this one is actually pretty popular

ancient creek Oct 29, 2023, 9:30 PM

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GTW equivalent

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but like the slovenia dissapointment line

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beautifull landscapes, and a GTW

tulip scarab Oct 29, 2023, 9:30 PM

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this then

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ancient creek Oct 29, 2023, 9:31 PM

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beautiful

tulip scarab Oct 29, 2023, 9:31 PM

#

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this is gtw equivalent

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and yes this station is absolutely in the middle of nowhere

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but the trains pass there

ancient creek Oct 29, 2023, 9:33 PM

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you can build something nice here

stiff hatch Oct 29, 2023, 10:52 PM

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How do you keep track of all trains?

ancient creek Oct 29, 2023, 11:03 PM

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why are you asking this now

stiff hatch Oct 29, 2023, 11:34 PM

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because i was ondering how he uses groups and such ingame

red knot Oct 29, 2023, 11:47 PM

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ancient creek you can build something nice here

looks like a good spot for rocking

tulip scarab Oct 30, 2023, 2:26 PM

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I make groups for lines @stiff hatch

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On this map the island number goes first and then the line number

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So 13-5 is line 5 on island 13

stiff hatch Oct 30, 2023, 2:28 PM

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ah. Seems really hard to keep track of everything

tulip scarab Oct 30, 2023, 4:39 PM

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bus 1

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fuuck this bus takes 3 minutes too long

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ok this setup wont work

stiff hatch Oct 30, 2023, 4:49 PM

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lange keering

tulip scarab Oct 30, 2023, 4:49 PM

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I meant more like

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it cant connect to the train at both sides

stiff hatch Oct 30, 2023, 4:51 PM

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is this the same island lol

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i though my game already had many towns. but you got evne shitton more

tulip scarab Oct 30, 2023, 4:52 PM

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yes

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I can make the kering work

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but now the bus has a 19 and 42 minute transfer on both ends

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im gonna try to see if I can snoep 3 minutes off

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this region would get another bus to serve the uitstulpingen anyways

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1b

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I dont want to cheat and raise the speed limit

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bus 1 will skip this town additionally

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im gonna use a double decker instead of an articulated bus because they articulate faster

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ok 3 minutes saved

maiden portal Oct 30, 2023, 5:05 PM

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tulip scarab im gonna use a double decker instead of an articulated bus because they articula...

What does articulate faster mean

tulip scarab Oct 30, 2023, 5:05 PM

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being able to reach a higher speed in a lower amount of time

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bus 1b

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bus 1b will also be just 1bph

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it was orihginally planned as 1bp2h

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but now it serves an extra town, plus it will connect to the train in the other direction

tulip scarab Oct 30, 2023, 7:14 PM

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bus 1 and 1b are together sort of half hourly

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20/40 spread at either end

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but 1b is 20 minutes slower so it's 40/20 at the other end

tulip scarab Oct 31, 2023, 6:55 PM

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bus 2 😍

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bus 3 🤩

ancient creek Oct 31, 2023, 7:13 PM

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no bus 4 😠

tulip scarab Oct 31, 2023, 7:16 PM

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BUS 4 @ancient creek 🥰

ancient creek Oct 31, 2023, 7:19 PM

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🤗

tulip scarab Nov 5, 2023, 1:45 PM

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warm jewel Nov 5, 2023, 1:47 PM

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dit is niet leesbaar zo natuurlijk hè

river wind Nov 5, 2023, 1:55 PM

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Just zoom the in

tulip scarab Nov 5, 2023, 2:02 PM

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warm jewel Nov 5, 2023, 2:06 PM

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mooi

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waarom doet discord dit

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wat snappen ze niet aan svgs

versed cairn Nov 6, 2023, 8:21 AM

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SVG good

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 12:54 PM

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the service map will get an update soon™️

stiff hatch Nov 6, 2023, 2:17 PM

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ohno. more services.

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when done you shouls decide to built some weird new hsl wich required big timetable change all over the network

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 3:39 PM

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I already did this

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I made a hsl to save 3 minutes so I can make knopen work

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zwiterse praktijken

ancient creek Nov 6, 2023, 3:40 PM

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stiff hatch when done you shouls decide to built some weird new hsl wich required big timeta...

this will be me one day

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 3:42 PM

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do you have like 4 miljard

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ferries to island 2

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blue is 2bph

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red, green and purple 1bph

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yellow is 1bp2h

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 4:35 PM

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@warm jewel do I add bad ferries on the map

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this ferry requires a bus transfer

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 4:38 PM

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yes I think

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some irl maps do this

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 4:38 PM

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hmm

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I dont really fall into the trap of adding too much info

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I want like almost 0 buses

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 4:39 PM

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then maybe don’t

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 4:39 PM

#

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I think I will accept this in rare cases

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anyways new map

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warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 4:43 PM

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are dikgedrukte plaatsen the same as the ones with stadsbussen

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 4:43 PM

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yes

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this is pretty much the definition

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with the exception of major transfor points

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 4:44 PM

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nice

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what are some major transfer points at onbelangrijke steden

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 4:44 PM

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a lot of ports

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 4:45 PM

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hmm

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 4:45 PM

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warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 4:45 PM

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aanzienlijke tgvs

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 4:45 PM

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this town is like vlissingen

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the station is in a pretty bad place

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 4:45 PM

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nice

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 4:46 PM

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this one doesnt have a harbor

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#

#

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these bottom two only have stoptreinen tho

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this is the mainline

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tgv

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 5:14 PM

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good

ancient creek Nov 6, 2023, 5:45 PM

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these stations are small

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 5:47 PM

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rico playstyle

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 5:54 PM

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these arent major knopen

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but my big stations arent that big either

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 5:55 PM

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yea

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 8:03 PM

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island 2 will also have single track with express+local trains

ancient creek Nov 6, 2023, 8:43 PM

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rico nieuwe eilanden

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 9:08 PM

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4tph single track isnt a good time

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ok ik just gonna double track this

versed cairn Nov 6, 2023, 10:01 PM

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warm jewel rico playstyle

Rico playstyle is quite distinctive

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I think it would be fun to have a game where you guess who made a screenshot

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:03 PM

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1tph express + 1tph local works out

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just barely

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this is mostly single track

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except the passing loops

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blue=local train passing point
red=express train passing point
purple=local train passes express train

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the longest stop for the local train is 3 minutes

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the express trains stop nowhere, they are only speed limited on a small section of the line to cross at a double track

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:08 PM

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very nicely done

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:10 PM

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there are some very tight spots

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+2 will cause a red signal

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:11 PM

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versed cairn I think it would be fun to have a game where you guess who made a screenshot

At this point I think this would be pretty easy

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:12 PM

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tulip scarab blue=local train passing point red=express train passing point purple=local trai...

like, local train passing express in the opposite direction?

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someday I would like to see this save

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:13 PM

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yes

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:13 PM

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planning two track lines remains a learning process for me

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hard to time out the passing sidings

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:14 PM

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part of it was luck

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:15 PM

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honestly I usually just let em hash it out and tweak wait times after the fact

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:16 PM

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thats kinda what I do as well

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:16 PM

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rarely do an express on single track lines though

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seems hard

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:17 PM

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I try to avoid it

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but the geography on my map forces it

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here for example

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:18 PM

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if the line is important enough I would still blow out the slope a bit

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but also this seems like a fun challenge to deal with

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:18 PM

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its not that imortant

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but it does have both local and express

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both just 1tph tho

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:19 PM

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its fun to have challenging timetables

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also theres a method to some ways of madness

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:19 PM

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you dont want the challenge to lead to like 14 minute dwell times

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gorinchemse toestanden

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:20 PM

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like the zwolle enschede timetable uses a very clever trick that you can apply anywhere on a single track route

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its messy

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but it allows you to increase capacity by 50% basically

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:20 PM

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do they sneak in trains behind each other

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:20 PM

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because for every crossing station basically on a single track line

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no

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hold on

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:20 PM

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sorry sorry

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:20 PM

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also the hack is to have fairly slow express trains

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:20 PM

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continue

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:21 PM

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maybe i can somehow make this in openttd

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or just explain

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with single track right

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ill draw this

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:21 PM

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in ottd I stick signals in the middle areas and schedule different services right on top of each other

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decent for mixing freight in

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:22 PM

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how do i do this

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:22 PM

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tijd-weg diagram

river wind Nov 6, 2023, 10:22 PM

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Paint

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:22 PM

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paint

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:22 PM

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hmm

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whats a tijd weg diagram

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im in paint

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basically

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when trains cross in the middle here

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the other two stations are always free

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if you want these trains to be able to cross there at the next interval

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next interval looks like this right

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so the way you hack this

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is have a train in between that can cross itself at the free station

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but this can only happen at half the frequency of the main service for reasons

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:29 PM

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so just run.. more trains?

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:30 PM

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hold on I can make a diagram

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:30 PM

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kinda

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its complicated

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basically this is a feature of single track

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but its usually not exploited because its pretty messy

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:32 PM

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wait this isnt right

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this assumes raalte is double track

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how does this work teun

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:35 PM

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Oh, I think I see what you mean

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like, time out an express to pass itself at an empty station

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?

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:35 PM

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yeah

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ill get the actual timetable

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:36 PM

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makes sense

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seems like it would be hard to plan out

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like you could only do really specific slots of time for departures

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:37 PM

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this is always the case with single track

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:37 PM

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true

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even more specific I mean

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:37 PM

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not really

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im gonna excel

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:38 PM

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this is it now

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you need more double track if you wouldnt have this though

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:38 PM

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thanks

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:38 PM

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wait this entire graph is wrong

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:39 PM

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nice

red knot Nov 6, 2023, 10:39 PM

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lol

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:39 PM

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black is the 2017 timetable

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:39 PM

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pink is sneltrein right

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:39 PM

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the stoppers also changed after they introduced the sneltrein

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hang on 1 sec

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:39 PM

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wait is it

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cool

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:39 PM

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im gonna fix it

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:39 PM

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you can show this in chris program

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:39 PM

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im not gonna use that

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I have a site

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:40 PM

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ok

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:41 PM

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this isnt even 30/30 spread

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I hate this

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:42 PM

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its also bad because the old line was based on diesel timing

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:50 PM

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warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:51 PM

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bad excel

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:51 PM

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trains need to cross at raalte though additionally

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:51 PM

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yeah

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with the stopper

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:51 PM

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which you didnt need to originally

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:51 PM

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i did something like this in openttd once

river wind Nov 6, 2023, 10:52 PM

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So basically

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You add a sneltrein at the cost of 2 stoppers?

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:52 PM

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you need extra infra compared to the status quo

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so how is this a hack

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:53 PM

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could you run two extra stoppers?

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lets see

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 10:53 PM

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if you double the blue line you need also double track somewhere between heino and zwolle

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:54 PM

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this is a net niet

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if you make the trains very slightly faster you can make this kwartier

river wind Nov 6, 2023, 10:54 PM

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Right

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 10:55 PM

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its rommelig though

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timings arent super consistent

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 11:00 PM

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this site has tijd-weg-diagrammen of pretty much all lines in 2017

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 11:04 PM

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link?

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this is a good year

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 11:04 PM

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https://www.kusee.nl/tijdweg/

Kusee : tijd-weg diagram tekenen.

tijd-weg diagram tekenen

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under voorbeeldbestanden

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then just open the txt fiels

warm jewel Nov 6, 2023, 11:05 PM

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nice

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 11:08 PM

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theres some good spam,

ancient creek Nov 6, 2023, 11:21 PM

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tulip scarab

what programm did you use for this

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oh wait

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sorry for the ellende

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@tulip scarab have you considered trains following on the same single track

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and then use one of the passing stations to overtake instead of pass opposite service

tulip scarab Nov 6, 2023, 11:26 PM

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This is possible but I haven't done this

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Overtaking requires like a 6 minute stop at least to be reliable

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Which is why I avoid overtaking on this map at all

ancient creek Nov 6, 2023, 11:31 PM

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one day, I will go wild

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but I have things to do

tulip scarab Nov 7, 2023, 9:08 AM

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No you don't

ancient creek Nov 7, 2023, 11:22 AM

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yes

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but dont worry, the process has started

tulip scarab Nov 7, 2023, 7:49 PM

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Proces

tulip scarab Nov 8, 2023, 3:38 PM

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another sneltrein

stiff hatch Nov 8, 2023, 3:40 PM

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Waddinxveen knoop

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also west aan zee being aanzee rare and kamperzedijk oost too

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and being opposit wes/east

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city placement never is this good

tulip scarab Nov 8, 2023, 3:44 PM

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do you want to know a secret

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I renamed west aan zee

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I switched it with a different town name

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because it annoyed me

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another one

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this is classified as sneltrein despite it stopping everywhere

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its just very sparse

tulip scarab Nov 8, 2023, 4:07 PM

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utilised flyover

stiff hatch Nov 8, 2023, 4:26 PM

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good. 2cc colours though

nimble parrot Nov 8, 2023, 4:33 PM

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tulip scarab utilised flyover

that fly sure can over!

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but more seriously, what a glide that is :D

versed cairn Nov 8, 2023, 7:36 PM

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nimble parrot that fly sure can over!

There's a village near me called over

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And it has a bridge over the river Severn

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So it's just called Over Bridge

warm jewel Nov 8, 2023, 7:52 PM

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it’s over

versed cairn Nov 9, 2023, 6:59 AM

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We're so (Elmore) back

ancient creek Nov 9, 2023, 7:04 AM

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Elmo's back

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He licks da crack

tulip scarab Nov 9, 2023, 12:35 PM

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buses

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the 226 will be half hourly

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this will be a popular bus

tulip scarab Nov 9, 2023, 5:57 PM

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bus 218

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bus 219

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bus 222

tulip scarab Nov 10, 2023, 3:27 PM

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bus 210

tulip scarab Nov 10, 2023, 3:49 PM

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bus 211

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thsi would not be a fun bus ride

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one of the longest lines on the map

ancient creek Nov 10, 2023, 3:50 PM

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we should have openttd trein and bus fappers

tulip scarab Nov 10, 2023, 3:52 PM

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its 106 minutes one way

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this area is like thios

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just a big chunk of nothing with very long buses

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and without trains

ancient creek Nov 10, 2023, 4:02 PM

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Vledder and appelscha

tulip scarab Nov 10, 2023, 4:04 PM

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bus 212

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bus 213

tulip scarab Nov 10, 2023, 4:35 PM

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bus 214

tulip scarab Nov 10, 2023, 4:52 PM

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bus 215

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bus 220

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new longest bus of the map

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@warm jewel

warm jewel Nov 10, 2023, 5:36 PM

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thank you

tulip scarab Nov 10, 2023, 7:27 PM

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im planning more buses rn

tulip scarab Nov 10, 2023, 9:03 PM

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ive noticed that mesh-structure bus networks work best

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I might use x-buses here

warm jewel Nov 10, 2023, 9:11 PM

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like grid or

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