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strange quiver Dec 16, 2025, 9:07 PM

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U&RERMM

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Its ufibys trackset

gritty bone Dec 16, 2025, 9:07 PM

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ah

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couldn't tell cause I've ran with JP+ with auz's rails for its catenary's and depots

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(seriously, Auz's rail set is the only one with a proper roundhouse depot)

strange quiver Dec 16, 2025, 9:08 PM

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Fair fair, its my normal go to

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But I've been playing more with JP+

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Also

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Dual mode version? 🤔

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 9:43 AM

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women only want one thing and it's disgusting

woeful halo Dec 17, 2025, 9:44 AM

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I guess I need to genderbend myself then

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 9:45 AM

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I suppose that's one way to do it lmao

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 9:52 AM

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strange quiver women only want one thing and it's disgusting

👀

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 9:53 AM

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turbid bronze 👀

haughty pollen Dec 17, 2025, 9:55 AM

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We can handle it.

woeful halo Dec 17, 2025, 10:01 AM

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Sure we can.

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 10:02 AM

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Transition goals fr

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this actually looks better than I expected

haughty pollen Dec 17, 2025, 10:04 AM

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It's got a hole in it lol (I know it's meant to be there)

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 10:04 AM

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BIG

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BIIIIIIIIIIG

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 10:04 AM

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haughty pollen It's got a hole in it lol (I know it's meant to be there)

at least the front didn't fall off

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but yh, that's tonights test done

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I'll properly code it on the weekend sometime

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coding these seems like it'll be a bit of hassle since it'll need both a 9 and 10 long template

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 10:08 AM

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Yeah I mean there's the DDA40X and then the DD35A and DD35B (or just DD35 as it was originally known, originally made cabless as a booster for the GP35)

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 10:08 AM

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yee, what I'm doing here is the DD35 and DD35A just to test

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but once I've done these, doing the DD40 and others will be easy

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 10:08 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

Tenor

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 10:09 AM

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tbf they're just long version of normal locomotives, so it'll be easy anyway

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 10:09 AM

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yeah

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but the templates will be useful for some of the other daft steam units later on down the track

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 10:09 AM

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true

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but tbf, there aren't that many super long locomotives in Australia (which I wanna work on first)

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 10:10 AM

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fair

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 10:10 AM

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only exception would be the AD60, but the central section isn't that long anyway

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 10:10 AM

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either way I could do with more options for 1900-1930

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 10:10 AM

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soooooooon

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 10:11 AM

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your NA stuff picks up pretty well from aboit 1920/1930 so plugging the gap with some aussie stuff would be A-OK to me

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 10:11 AM

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I'll have more time to practice steam locomotive wheny my contract ends on the 19th

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 10:11 AM

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remind me when you start getting around to it I'll port over the purchase menu changes to the aussie sets.

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 10:12 AM

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turbid bronze your NA stuff picks up pretty well from aboit 1920/1930 so plugging the gap with...

fair fair

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I could do some NA steam locomotives, but I still need to research them

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 10:12 AM

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turbid bronze remind me when you start getting around to it I'll port over the purchase menu c...

sure, but I'm probably just gonna restart the Australian stuff

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I'm gonna have to redraw all the sprites anyway

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at least for the locomotives

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 10:14 AM

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keeeeen

dim pulsar Dec 17, 2025, 11:29 AM

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I don’t get these messages, was there an aussie reference?

haughty pollen Dec 17, 2025, 11:42 AM

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You'll have to be more specific lol

dim pulsar Dec 17, 2025, 11:46 AM

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haughty pollen *We can handle it.*

This… and the messages nearby

haughty pollen Dec 17, 2025, 11:47 AM

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I was referencing the slogan on the union pacific loco haha

dim pulsar Dec 17, 2025, 11:48 AM

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Oops

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 12:39 PM

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we must become more incomprehensible

haughty pollen Dec 17, 2025, 12:51 PM

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Fucken oath, I'll pop down to the servo to grab a sanga and some durries, then crack a uey to the bottlo to get some stubbies

turbid bronze Dec 17, 2025, 1:07 PM

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Stubbies? Don’t you mean a VB farken LONG NECK

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https://tenor.com/view/vblongneck-beer-longneck-vb-aussie-gif-91607356125788785

Tenor

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Get that up ya

steep echo Dec 17, 2025, 1:25 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/big-lez-show-oh-yeah-nah-yeah-mike-nolan-donny-gif-15866247

Tenor

signal gate Dec 17, 2025, 1:36 PM

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mates dial down the strayan

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you'll confuse the poms

steep echo Dec 17, 2025, 2:01 PM

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signal gate you'll confuse the poms

fuck up cunt

mellow loom Dec 17, 2025, 8:36 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-knifey-spooney-australia-bart-simpson-crocodile-dundee-gif-12120887

Tenor

versed sparrow Dec 17, 2025, 11:05 PM

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Hello guys

strange quiver Dec 17, 2025, 11:08 PM

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versed sparrow Hello guys

Hi

strange quiver Dec 18, 2025, 8:16 AM

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lazy day, but I suppose I should draw the GP35 before doing the DD35

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also tomorrows my last day working for the shire, which will be good

versed sparrow Dec 18, 2025, 1:52 PM

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Hmmm

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I wonder if the e60 will be in any future grfs cus the only one that currently have it is the old us train one

haughty pollen Dec 18, 2025, 2:20 PM

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The E60 is in a lot of GRFs: 2cc trainset, NARS, and I'm pretty sure Ragin's done it or plans to do it

oblique bone Dec 18, 2025, 5:02 PM

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finite mountain Dec 18, 2025, 5:11 PM

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Good to see that Amtrak's equipment is finally get the modern 21st century upgrade it needs

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Hopefully VIA Rail here is soon to follow

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A lot of their equipment is as old if not older than Amtrak's

strange quiver Dec 19, 2025, 3:44 AM

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haughty pollen The E60 is in a lot of GRFs: 2cc trainset, NARS, and I'm pretty sure Ragin's don...

well I've already done the passenger version

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I just haven't been bothered to do either of the freight versions

haughty pollen Dec 19, 2025, 6:55 AM

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Easy, just chop off a cab 😛

mental musk Dec 19, 2025, 7:31 AM

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the cab designs are diffrent. Count the windows

But this likely does not matter in such smol scale

mint cargo Dec 20, 2025, 2:12 AM

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Since you make the template of DD35, you could use them to make the planed PRR DDR Concept Electric one, the engine cab and design is virtually a DD35 dual-cab electrificated one, to be use along Horseshoe Curve, but the plan as cancelled as PRR and NYC became the PennCentral...

turbid bronze Dec 20, 2025, 2:15 AM

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Oooooh

strange quiver Dec 20, 2025, 2:15 AM

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mint cargo Since you make the template of DD35, you could use them to make the planed PRR D...

are there any references for that?

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actually iirc it's on my list

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Yee, already got it 🙂

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could do it...

turbid bronze Dec 20, 2025, 2:17 AM

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That thing looks daft. I love it.

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I love that youve already got so many prototypes and proposed locos that you can basically larp ‘what if America but different’

strange quiver Dec 20, 2025, 2:18 AM

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yeah

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legit finding these prototypes is one of my main excuses for doing openttd stuff lmao

versed sparrow Dec 20, 2025, 6:36 AM

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Some early concept for the acela

strange quiver Dec 20, 2025, 6:41 AM

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Yee, already got them on the list :3

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 8:07 AM

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looks better than the final design

versed sparrow Dec 20, 2025, 10:10 AM

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strange quiver Yee, already got them on the list :3

Ooooo thats cool to know

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Wait do you have this on the bucket list im just wondering

union-pacific-4-12-2-no-9007-at-work-in-cheyenne-wyoming-v0-zauoyab2hdka1.jpg

severe elbow Dec 20, 2025, 10:13 AM

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mental musk looks better than the final design

thats probably why they rejected it

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plus it looks a tad soviet

versed sparrow Dec 20, 2025, 10:19 AM

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Just realized that the name little joe was shortened as the original name was the little Joseph stalin

strange quiver Dec 20, 2025, 10:30 AM

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versed sparrow Wait do you have this on the bucket list im just wondering

On the steam list yh, but thats not being worked on atm

versed sparrow Dec 20, 2025, 10:40 AM

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strange quiver On the steam list yh, but thats not being worked on atm

Ooooo thats good to know

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I've been dying to see it in game

strange quiver Dec 20, 2025, 10:42 AM

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Well it probably won't be for a long while yet

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I wanna focus on my Australian stuff soon anyway

versed sparrow Dec 20, 2025, 10:45 AM

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strange quiver I wanna focus on my Australian stuff soon anyway

Sure take your time

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:47 AM

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versed sparrow Just realized that the name little joe was shortened as the original name was th...

on the USSR State Railroads these were ment to be called Class A electric locomotive

A of course means American

And manufacturers designation is 2-D+D-2 406/546 8-GE 750-3300V

MILW classed these as EP-4 and EF-4 depanding on the presence or lack of equiptment to heat coaches

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:47 AM

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severe elbow plus it looks a tad soviet

whaaaaat?

It looks like NSB (Norway) MUs

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/NSB_Class_73_near_Dombås_4.jpg

severe elbow Dec 20, 2025, 10:48 AM

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borders russia, close enough

signal gate Dec 20, 2025, 10:48 AM

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APT-P curse cab

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mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:51 AM

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Seprate machineroom coach in the middle of the set

Stadler approved 🙂

severe elbow Dec 20, 2025, 10:51 AM

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stadler hate this design wdym

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:52 AM

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https://www.railway-technology.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2017/10/2-image-34.jpg

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https://est-train.ertas.eu/photos/larges/1398971820.jpg

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https://www.railwayage.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Stadler-FLIRT-DART-at-TTC.jpg

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Stadler seems to be the biggest manufaturer of DMUs with this construdion layout....

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Let's salute the ticket inspectors who have to walk through the machineroom with roading diesels on both sides of the corridor to check tickets in the 2nd half of the train 🫡

signal gate Dec 20, 2025, 10:54 AM

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isn't it a raised floor over the engine?

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:55 AM

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signal gate isn't it a raised floor over the engine?

in FLIRT type the machine room is wider than the passenger coaches

signal gate Dec 20, 2025, 10:55 AM

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I've been on stadler sets in Europe, some are a narrow corridor, some are raised floor

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:55 AM

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Stadler_GTW_dla_Arriva_NL_-_power_pack%2C_Stadler_Polska%2C_2014-08-21_(Muri_WK14).jpg

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I like the exterior design of the FLIRT-s with the 3rd gen cab

severe elbow Dec 20, 2025, 10:56 AM

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mental musk https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Stadler_GTW_dla_Arriva_NL_-_...

so dull and dark in there

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hardly see a thing

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:56 AM

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https://raportkolejowy.pl/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Fot.-KM-FLIRT-scaled.jpg

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:57 AM

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severe elbow so dull and dark in there

It is an walkway through an mid-train machineroom

What were You expecting?

severe elbow Dec 20, 2025, 10:57 AM

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some lights at least

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:57 AM

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at least the electric version does not have this

severe elbow Dec 20, 2025, 10:57 AM

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at least ours have lights

severe elbow Dec 20, 2025, 10:58 AM

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mental musk at least the electric version does not have this

electric

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:58 AM

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https://ilostan.forumkolejowe.pl/foto/107677.jpg

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:58 AM

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severe elbow electric

I mean OHLE, not batterries

severe elbow Dec 20, 2025, 10:58 AM

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still electric

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:58 AM

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indeed

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I think that combined batterry+OHLE MUs are the best solution for partially electrified regional lines

severe elbow Dec 20, 2025, 10:59 AM

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nah bi mode it

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 10:59 AM

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on longer lines (long distance, interregional) loco-hueled sets with loco change can work good

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but each loco change takes some time

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 11:00 AM

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severe elbow nah bi mode it

🤔

steep echo Dec 20, 2025, 11:00 AM

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just put 3rd rail down everywhere

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 11:00 AM

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OHLE is better

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as it operates on higher voltages it gives more power

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more power == more powerfull motors and higher speeds

severe elbow Dec 20, 2025, 11:01 AM

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you dont get thrash then

steep echo Dec 20, 2025, 11:01 AM

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3rd rail electrocutes dumbasses who stand on it

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 11:02 AM

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generally by batterry + OHLE I mean an MU that can charge it's batterries on the move, whan under wires

steep echo Dec 20, 2025, 11:03 AM

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so not an OHLE train with the word battery written on it?

mental musk Dec 20, 2025, 11:04 AM

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steep echo so not an OHLE train with the word battery written on it?

batterry power on non-electrified lines
OHLE power on lines with OHLE
With juce going both to the motors and to the batterry to charge it on the go

steep echo Dec 20, 2025, 11:05 AM

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oh yeah, i forgot how you like to explain everything to others as if they're a sped

turbid bronze Dec 21, 2025, 1:48 AM

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just synced my fork, yessssss DD35... Okay it's only one view but still :3

strange quiver Dec 21, 2025, 1:50 AM

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tbf it'll be easy to finish :3333

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got most of my weekend work done, so I might finish it tonight

turbid bronze Dec 21, 2025, 1:50 AM

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it's pretty much just a GP35 with another motor grafted onto the arse of it right?

strange quiver Dec 21, 2025, 1:51 AM

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pretty much

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its why I drew the GP35, although I didn't code it

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I should probably code that actually

turbid bronze Dec 21, 2025, 1:51 AM

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Yeah I've had a pretty slack weekend. Yesterday I was wiped, slept all day, was awake then til like 7pm then fell asleep again

strange quiver Dec 21, 2025, 1:51 AM

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sounds fun

turbid bronze Dec 21, 2025, 1:52 AM

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Not really lmao

strange quiver Dec 21, 2025, 1:52 AM

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I had a party last night so I feel rough

turbid bronze Dec 21, 2025, 1:52 AM

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heh

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you socialite you

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I haven't been to a proper party in years

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everything goes downhill when you get into your thirties

strange quiver Dec 21, 2025, 1:53 AM

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tbf they can be a lot, and I'm not that social lmao

turbid bronze Dec 21, 2025, 1:53 AM

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you just wanna be in bed asleep by 9pm

strange quiver Dec 21, 2025, 1:53 AM

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turbid bronze everything goes downhill when you get into your thirties

I suppose, but we'll see

strange quiver Dec 21, 2025, 1:53 AM

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turbid bronze you just wanna be in bed asleep by 9pm

tbf I'm like that now lmao

strange quiver Dec 21, 2025, 4:18 AM

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women only want one thing

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side view looks alright, so running through and finishing it should be straight forward

turbid bronze Dec 21, 2025, 4:21 AM

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and it's fucking gigantic over sized diesel locomotives

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🙏

strange quiver Dec 21, 2025, 4:21 AM

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yeah, I love it so much

woeful halo Dec 21, 2025, 6:22 AM

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I like electric locos instead

soft stump Dec 21, 2025, 6:43 PM

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Hello, have you drawn the EMD G12? Just curious :p

strange quiver Dec 21, 2025, 7:31 PM

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soft stump Hello, have you drawn the EMD G12? Just curious :p

No, but I will at some point

soft stump Dec 21, 2025, 8:04 PM

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strange quiver No, but I will at some point

Good to know :p
I was in a train pulled by one yesterday thinking about how many of them there are, they got exported everywhere

strange quiver Dec 21, 2025, 8:17 PM

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Yee

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Its why they're high on my priority list

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Australia/NZ combined also imported all 3 major variants of them too

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 12:23 AM

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okay been working through code stuff

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got some cool stuff to show off tonight

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ya'll are gonna be eating good

turbid bronze Dec 22, 2025, 12:25 AM

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DELICIOUS

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 12:27 AM

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👀

turbid bronze Dec 22, 2025, 12:30 AM

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YOOOOOO

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GP35 and the DD35 gonna make it as well? Honestly can't wait to use them. I need to get a save up to the 1960's first though lmao

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though I honestly can't wait to start using the triple and quad boxcabs

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 12:32 AM

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tbh assuming I'm in the mood, I'll probably have the GP35, DD35A/B and Little Joes done by tonight

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I'm just testing things to get myself familiar with the code

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the DD35A is gonna be the most difficult, but it should be somewhat straightforward

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 2:05 AM

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goobers done

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on github now if ya'll wanna test it out

turbid bronze Dec 22, 2025, 2:08 AM

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BIG

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STINKY

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❤️

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I’ll do a compile now

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 2:08 AM

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have fun

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although there is a grf in there anyway

turbid bronze Dec 22, 2025, 2:10 AM

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Oh yeah that's probably more intelligent

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 2:10 AM

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also it helps people who don't know how to compile it

turbid bronze Dec 22, 2025, 2:10 AM

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Yeah, changed your batch file to copy instead of move?

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I do the same in my repos, I just leave the raw .grf and the combined .nfo file from the .pnfo's if people want to tinker/play without dicking around with make and GCC (not that much dicking around is required but still)

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 2:11 AM

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nah, I just compile it and leave it in there

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I should change it to copy though

turbid bronze Dec 22, 2025, 2:14 AM

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green and gold looks very patriotic for my alt history australia

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Fuck they look so good in game

frosty sand Dec 22, 2025, 2:20 AM

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Oh hell yeah

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 2:20 AM

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turbid bronze green and gold looks very patriotic for my alt history australia

tbf AN basically considered something similar in the 60s...

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Clyde offered then a twin 645 locomotive for the trans-australian service

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but it would have had a bulldog nose

turbid bronze Dec 22, 2025, 2:23 AM

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god pair of gp35's with two DD35's in the middle looks so good

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So they look fine going around corners. Little bit of clipping with tunnel portals and depots but not an outrageous amount

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You done good

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 2:25 AM

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thanks

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 2:25 AM

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turbid bronze So they look fine going around corners. Little bit of clipping with tunnel porta...

yeah, not too much I can do about that iirc

turbid bronze Dec 22, 2025, 2:26 AM

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It's fine. There's clipping glitches even in vanilla OpenTTD with bridges and trains and wires occasionally. I think it's just a reality of the game tbh. It's not especially egregious.

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 2:44 AM

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yee, it's why I'm not too fussed

turbid bronze Dec 22, 2025, 3:07 AM

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Well the good news is with big behemoths like the DD35A and the DDA40X after it taken care of you're pretty much on track to do something similar for the steam locomotives like the Big Boy, the locomotive itself is only 26m not counting the tender

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Could easily do that as a 10/8 sprite in the same fashion then do an 8/8 or 6/8 tender

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 3:09 AM

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yee, although tbf the code side of steam locomotives is the easy part

turbid bronze Dec 22, 2025, 3:09 AM

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Main body would be about the same size as the DD35A yeah

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Yeah I don't envy having to draw the sucker. That said, you've got the NARS sprites to work off too.

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 3:19 AM

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yee, I've got a fair bit of references

rancid bear Dec 22, 2025, 4:06 AM

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I might be being a bit of a muppet but I can't get the newgrfs I downloaded from your github to show up in game? Only the older versions (CNALP, CNAPs and NARP) from bananas are there or not there at all in the case of the wagons (NARPWP). Delete the older downloads and there is nothing. JGRPP 68.2 and usually smarter than your average bear lol

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 5:18 AM

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rancid bear I might be being a bit of a muppet but I can't get the newgrfs I downloaded from...

iirc it should be a case of deleting the old ones

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but they all have a higher version number so openttd shouldn't be having any issues

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also

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🤔

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not realated to any american stuff, but now that I have the code for the DD35, doing the A32D should be easy too

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omg EMD F50CM

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it was only a AC testbed built on a SDP40F

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but it can go in the misc roster

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 10:49 AM

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probably needs a bit more tweaking, but the GP39 in the ATSF livery is done

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gonna quickly run through and do the SDL39 now

mental musk Dec 22, 2025, 11:00 AM

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ASTF cowl units for passenger trains done?

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 11:02 AM

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well if you're refering to the FP45, yeah

mental musk Dec 22, 2025, 11:04 AM

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I would not be suprised if thay had a couple of serieses of cowl units

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 11:20 AM

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SDL39 done

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basically just a GP39 with a C-C wheel arrangement and slightly different radiator setup

rancid bear Dec 22, 2025, 2:39 PM

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strange quiver but they all have a higher version number so openttd shouldn't be having any iss...

Super weird, thats how I thought it would work. Anyway, I downloaded the whole repository instead of the individual files and now the copied newgrfs are working. Sprites are banging, huge fan of the Oceania sets so looking forward to this pack!

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The DD35's in their diesel glory.... they look fantastic. (I added a tiny invisible wagon between them so I could see your artistry better! Tankers are from NARS, extra CC colours too).

earnest meadow Dec 22, 2025, 7:07 PM

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reporting from the JP+ server, maybe we could have Montreal Metro for a future update

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 9:15 PM

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rancid bear The DD35's in their diesel glory.... they look fantastic. (I added a tiny invisi...

I really should do my own tankers at some point...

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 9:15 PM

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earnest meadow reporting from the JP+ server, maybe we could have Montreal Metro for a future u...

Its on the cards ;3

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 10:35 PM

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also now that I think about it, the GG1 was 24m long, so I should probably redo it as 9 long

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otherwise it's out of scale with everything else

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 11:01 PM

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also quickly did the EF-3B, since it's just an EP4 with slightly different vents

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I've got a handful of locos I wanna do today to finish things up, so we'll see how many I get done

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 11:32 PM

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GG1 fixed with an R1 for comparison

mellow loom Dec 22, 2025, 11:33 PM

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Might be worth softening those yellow lines on the locomotives with some more shading, they're a touch stark

strange quiver Dec 22, 2025, 11:33 PM

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yee, but it'd require a little more re-working than I'd be wanting to do

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I'm trying to make the livery such that they work with other stuff, alongside the actual livery, and changing the tone of CC2 would potentially break that

strange quiver Dec 23, 2025, 1:18 AM

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DDR 6700 done

haughty pollen Dec 23, 2025, 1:21 AM

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Sounds more like a type of RAM than a locomotive

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Looks awesome though

strange quiver Dec 23, 2025, 1:21 AM

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haughty pollen Sounds more like a type of RAM than a locomotive

that's why it's so expensive 🙂

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but yh, there's only limited info on this

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interestingly the blueprint show it with a steam boiler? so I'm guessing this was more mixed traffic?

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but I've just done it as a heavy freight locomotive

turbid bronze Dec 23, 2025, 1:52 AM

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strange quiver DDR 6700 done

oh neat!

red stump Dec 23, 2025, 3:08 AM

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strange quiver GG1 fixed with an R1 for comparison

Wow this rules

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Have you done any other PRR electrics

turbid bronze Dec 23, 2025, 3:42 AM

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Horse steam and Ragins electrics meet 🙂

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those are some nice pixels

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Got a little mountain route that bridges some marshland in a valley, used a GE Z-1-A to do the climb back up the mountain

strange quiver Dec 23, 2025, 4:53 AM

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red stump Have you done any other PRR electrics

pretty much all of them iirc

strange quiver Dec 23, 2025, 4:54 AM

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turbid bronze Got a little mountain route that bridges some marshland in a valley, used a GE Z...

that looks really good

red stump Dec 23, 2025, 5:09 AM

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I got some catching up to do

turbid bronze Dec 23, 2025, 5:23 AM

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red stump I got some catching up to do

The roster is impressive now. Freight wagons really does still need something like Horse to flesh it out, and 1900-1920 is a bit barren until Ragin draws some kettles

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but from 1920 onwards it's a smorgasbord

strange quiver Dec 23, 2025, 5:40 AM

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turbid bronze The roster is impressive now. Freight wagons really does still need something li...

tbf there's 6 locomotives, that's plenty 🙂

turbid bronze Dec 23, 2025, 5:41 AM

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widdle_goblin

versed sparrow Dec 23, 2025, 1:52 PM

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I want more new train grf on the online content on mobile

steep echo Dec 23, 2025, 1:54 PM

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thumbsup

late pewter Dec 23, 2025, 1:57 PM

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versed sparrow I want more new train grf on the online content on mobile

Ok, that will be 11,50. Do you want some soda with that?

versed sparrow Dec 23, 2025, 1:58 PM

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The prr did have some "creative" minds

versed sparrow Dec 23, 2025, 1:58 PM

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late pewter Ok, that will be 11,50. Do you want some soda with that?

Yes pls

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Ok y'all heard of the little joes
Now how about the bigger joes

haughty pollen Dec 23, 2025, 2:13 PM

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versed sparrow I want more new train grf on the online content on mobile

What does mobile have to do with it? Online content is the same

versed sparrow Dec 23, 2025, 2:14 PM

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haughty pollen What does mobile have to do with it? Online content is the same

Well some grf isn't available on mobile so can't play certain sernarios

haughty pollen Dec 23, 2025, 2:15 PM

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It has nothing to do with mobile. Either your game version is too old, or they're not on there at all and you need to get them manually.

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Anyway this is not the place for it

versed sparrow Dec 23, 2025, 2:16 PM

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haughty pollen Anyway this is not the place for it

Okie gui_company

mental musk Dec 23, 2025, 2:40 PM

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versed sparrow Ok y'all heard of the little joes Now how about the bigger joes

so, if the smaller one was an Joe, this would be the Tzar

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Or maybe this would have been the Saint Joseph ? 😉

woeful halo Dec 23, 2025, 3:01 PM

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the chassis looks too big

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is that a Bo-Bo or a Co-Co?

haughty pollen Dec 23, 2025, 3:14 PM

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More like a Ho-Ho

signal gate Dec 23, 2025, 3:17 PM

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🎅

mental musk Dec 23, 2025, 3:35 PM

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it seems to have 2 subframes, with 4 bogeys each

Likely bogeys 2,3 and 6 and 7 are mounted the way thay can svivel sideways

severe elbow Dec 23, 2025, 5:43 PM

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versed sparrow Ok y'all heard of the little joes Now how about the bigger joes

tiny joe

strange quiver Dec 26, 2025, 5:04 AM

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Pmotors redone using the 9 template

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also the codes redone so hopefully... doing liveries for these should be a lot simpler

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will need to do the same for some other locomotives, but that's a future me problem

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also I hope everyone's christmas went well

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mine was interesting to say the least...

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so I'm gonna draw some trains to get my mind of it

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I've got a few I wanna get through today, and some more code cleaning up that needs to be done

turbid bronze Dec 26, 2025, 5:18 AM

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I’m in Hay, I’ve driven like 600-700km today

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I was two states away this morning

strange quiver Dec 26, 2025, 5:19 AM

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you're really just driving out into the middle of nowhere lmao

turbid bronze Dec 26, 2025, 5:20 AM

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Yeah Adelaide this morning, Dubbo tomorrow probably, then straight to Brisbane.

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Maybe Narrabri

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Depends how many K’s I wanna drive

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I wanna be home Sunday evening regardless

strange quiver Dec 26, 2025, 5:21 AM

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rip, I don't envy that

strange quiver Dec 26, 2025, 7:11 AM

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NH EP-3s done

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more boxcabs for the boxcab gods

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also these new swamps look really good

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I need to set up a new game just to see more of them

mental musk Dec 26, 2025, 7:45 AM

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strange quiver NH EP-3s done

NH boxcab with... CN coaches?

strange quiver Dec 26, 2025, 7:45 AM

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I didn't have any NH coaches :3

strange quiver Dec 27, 2025, 1:24 AM

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New haven EP-2s done

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now for the Milwaukee's EP-3s

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also it's funny for a locomotive this big, they only produce 2000hp

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Americans seem to have a thing for giant vehicles that make no power at all

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just realised there are only 21m long, so they should be on the 8 template...

late pewter Dec 27, 2025, 1:45 AM

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strange quiver also it's funny for a locomotive this big, they only produce 2000hp

Even the locomotives had a malaise era 😔

strange quiver Dec 27, 2025, 4:29 AM

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look at the size of this lad

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EP-3 Quills done

haughty pollen Dec 27, 2025, 4:40 AM

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I love big boxcabs

strange quiver Dec 27, 2025, 4:44 AM

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more boxcabs for the boxcab gods 🙂

turbid bronze Dec 27, 2025, 5:37 AM

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Absolute unit

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📦

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BIG BOX

mental musk Dec 27, 2025, 8:07 AM

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wanna hear an joke?

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What is it

Big bloxy, black, technologically obosolite in the moment it was designed, slow, smokes a lot, consumes a lot of electricity and cuts carrots into 5 pices?

||Romanian build machine for cutting carrots into 4 pices||

haughty pollen Dec 27, 2025, 8:21 AM

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What

woeful halo Dec 27, 2025, 8:37 AM

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mental musk What is it Big bloxy, black, technologically obosolite in the moment it was des...

I heard about the Soviet one that cuts apples into pieces

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Seems like the script is the same

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 4:02 AM

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low energy for locomotives today, and I cbf doing freight wagons

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 4:02 AM

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Fair

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 4:02 AM

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so I might finally get around to adding voltages to electric locomotives

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 4:02 AM

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turbid bronze Fair

let me finish typing woman!

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tsk tsk tsk

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 4:03 AM

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😛

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 4:33 AM

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also while I'm at it, I'm gonna modify my stuff to match JP+ better

steep echo Dec 28, 2025, 4:33 AM

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based

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 4:33 AM

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so now the track type colours and naming schemes will match JP+ tracks, which I think is a nice feature

steep echo Dec 28, 2025, 4:35 AM

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but dont get too dccaught up in trying to match another set instead of making stuff xddd its not so fucn xd

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ohhhh

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 4:35 AM

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I know, it's mostly code cleanup stuff anyway

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just so they work better together

steep echo Dec 28, 2025, 4:35 AM

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eusssss

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thats god)

woeful halo Dec 28, 2025, 4:43 AM

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I should kitbash with sprites for my trainset

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It's a pain in the arse drawing everything by hand

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Just need to replicate Andy's Polar Fox somehow

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 4:44 AM

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woeful halo I should kitbash with sprites for my trainset

well you're more than welcome to steal from me

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tbf most of my sprites I kitbash myself to make new stuff

woeful halo Dec 28, 2025, 4:44 AM

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I just realised

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I can use a lot of UKRS/IH assets for Indian locos

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The steam locos in particular

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 4:45 AM

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yee, it's an option

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done the electric locomotives now, it's gonna be an issue if you play with only this set and intend on using DC locomotives, because this is your entire selection

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iirc the joes are probably the last DC locomotive introduced into service in the US?

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:01 AM

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Everything fails back if you’re not running seperate AC/DC?

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That EP-3 is yuuuuuuuge

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:02 AM

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turbid bronze Everything fails back if you’re not running seperate AC/DC?

absolutley not >:/

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works fine, just still says the actual OHLE type it uses

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:02 AM

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Oh no, oh bother, I guess I’ll just have to turn on both electric tracks in JP+ tracks 😛

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:02 AM

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I could change that... but I think it's fine

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:03 AM

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strange quiver I could change that... but I think it's fine

Yeah that actually looks perfectly fine tbh

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Flavour text tells you what it is, rails themselves say AC/DC

haughty pollen Dec 28, 2025, 5:03 AM

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JP+ is the same, the locos fall back to ELRL if narrow gauge or voltages aren't available, but the description doesn't change

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:03 AM

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Also narrow gauge when

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:04 AM

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turbid bronze Also narrow gauge when

well I do wanna do a north american narrow gauge set at some point, but that's a future me problem

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:04 AM

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I’m playing meandering islands again and I wanna make one of the main islands be narrow gauge just to be difficult to myself

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:04 AM

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as for Australian stuff, I'm still unsure how I'd wanna do it

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I think for Australian narrow gauge, I'm gonna keep everything as standard gauge unless I can find a reasonable way to do it

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:05 AM

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Well there’s three main gauges for Australia 😐

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But honestly you could probably just lump broad gauge SA stuff in with standard and let the banana benders be special

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:06 AM

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I could, but there's the concern of multi-gauge stuff

haughty pollen Dec 28, 2025, 5:06 AM

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That's probably what I'd do too, there's plenty of narrow gauge stuff in WA and NZ too

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:06 AM

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like there are some QR locomotives that were converted for standard gauge, and some SAR/NSW locomotives converted to narrow gauge

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so idk what to do with those

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the only reasonable solution would be to just re-code them again as narrow gauge, but that's not a great solution imo

haughty pollen Dec 28, 2025, 5:07 AM

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Just have them as separate vehicles, it's the easiest way by far

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:07 AM

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Duplicate them and have a slightly different livery?

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:07 AM

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I suppose

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but it's also why I brought up that purchase idea with multiple track types in the add on dev channel

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since it would give a lot more flexibility without much more code

haughty pollen Dec 28, 2025, 5:08 AM

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That's a very niche problem and unlikely to be fixed in GRF, to be honest

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:08 AM

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Yeah I wouldn’t worry about that, just duplicate the suckers and maaaaybe do a unique livery for them.

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:08 AM

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well I'll think about it then

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lemme arrange my spreadsheet with gauge to see what's required then

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if it's not too much, I'll see if I can split it

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:09 AM

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I’m happy to do some grunt work if you can work out what ID’s you wanna allocate etc etc

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I’ve also gotta do the purchase sprite alignment work on the Oceanian stuff at some point

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Or were you going to recode that from scratch?

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:10 AM

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I'm probably just gonna re-do it from scratch tbh

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:10 AM

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Fair

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:10 AM

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I'm gonna have to re-do all the sprites anyway

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so it's not gonna be much more work

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:11 AM

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Yeah the good thing is you’ve got all your templates etc in the NA stuff now

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:14 AM

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yee

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tbh running through and doing new sprites for the Australian stuff should be really easy anyway

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since I have so much reference material from the NA set too

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:14 AM

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But yeah happy to do some data processing on narrow gauge if you can let me know what you want

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That spreadsheet on the github?

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:17 AM

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it's not, but you can find it here

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fj6Y5M03zOG2wjGIkY0y61pFTRm4pEQkCMxz0FVdcgI/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Oceanian Rail Pack

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I'm just going through now and doing it

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it shouldn't take too long since already know what gauge most locomotives are off the top of my head anyway lmao

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:19 AM

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How about the yank stuff? They didn’t have a lot of narrow gauge off the top of my head

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:20 AM

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basically none post 1970

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it's why there'd be no point including that info in that roster

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I've got a separate doc containing info on US narrow gauge, but it's not been converted to a spreadsheet yet

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most of their stuff was a mix of 3ft 6in and 3ft gauges

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:21 AM

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Yeah you’d just mix that all together

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Not functionally different enough

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And yeah, was mostly over by ww2 so it’d mostly be steam and some early diesels

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Shay’s are pretty important if talking about early steam in the US though

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So in other words it’s in the fuck it bucket til you get around to steam 😛

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:23 AM

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pretty much

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it's future me's problem

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priority is gonna be Australian steam anyway

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:23 AM

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Nice

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Either way I play a mixed roster so Australian steam still scratches that 1900-1920 itch 😛

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:25 AM

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yeeee

haughty pollen Dec 28, 2025, 5:26 AM

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Don't forget about these

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:26 AM

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haughty pollen Don't forget about these

of course 🙂

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iirc they're on my Australian roster as something to copy across

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I've been marking my spreadsheets to indicate trains that are relevant to other sets

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:28 AM

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https://www.thedieselshop.us/White_Pass.HTML bit of info on the White Pass & Yukon stuff here

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Heh, those were repainted green and gold as well, everyone’s copying my normal TTD livery 😛

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:30 AM

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tsk tsk tsk

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the thieving bastards

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:33 AM

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I’ve been using dark green and white a lot lately as well

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Should probably do group liveries

haughty pollen Dec 28, 2025, 5:34 AM

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RGBCC patch when

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:36 AM

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haughty pollen RGBCC patch when

god please

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that would make me so happy 🙂

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that and CC3/CC4

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:37 AM

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Peter did just merge desert rocks though so that’s gonna be nice. Should make my rock .grf’s for JGRPP redundant once that merges

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But yes it would be nice if RGBCC got merged.

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Though I think it was HSLCC to be more accurate

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:38 AM

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is there somewhere I could find more info on it?

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i didn't know it was an actual proposal

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:40 AM

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Yeah Peter had a branch and a PR at one stage, not sure what ended up blocking it but there was some pissing and moaning from some obnoxious multiplayer sorts that people could get confused with similar CC’s even though there’s no restrictions on group liveries 🙄

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:40 AM

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well that's annoying

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not really a reason to reject it, especially because it opens up so many more oppurtunities

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:41 AM

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I don’t think that was the ‘blocker’ though

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:45 AM

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ah fair

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okay so going through my list, there are 29 locomotives that were built for multiple gauges (I could have missed 1 or 2 though)

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the vast majority are Broad/Standard

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if you filter it down to just Standard/Broad and Narrow, then it goes down to 8 (but 1 is just a cab variant)

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:50 AM

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I wonder if we could twist @frigid drum's arm to make broad gauge rails for JP+ tracks or its future international variant 😛

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they're going to murder me I know it

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 5:51 AM

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look, if they do it, it'll save me doing it myself 🙂

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I might while I'm at it split everything by gauge at the ID stage for future compatability

turbid bronze Dec 28, 2025, 5:52 AM

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Yeah, plan ahead

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I guess the good thing is that if you skip broad guage entirely you're only missing out on relatively few locomotives, suburban shit from SA and a few poxy little regional vic railroads. All the freight and interstate passenger carrying trains were standard gauge.

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 6:00 AM

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true

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but still, I'll build in broad gauge into the Id allocations so I can include broad gauge in future

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Also I might as well add gauge info to even my north american stuff if only so the extra details are consistent

haughty pollen Dec 28, 2025, 6:06 AM

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strange quiver i didn't know it was an actual proposal

It's a functional patch (this is an old version which is why the GUI is a mess)

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 6:06 AM

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haughty pollen It's a functional patch (this is an old version which is why the GUI is a mess)

oooooh, that would be really cool if it were added

haughty pollen Dec 28, 2025, 6:07 AM

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Yes, hopefully someday

mental musk Dec 28, 2025, 7:36 AM

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strange quiver iirc the joes are probably the last DC locomotive introduced into service in the...

CN Z-5-a?

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 7:36 AM

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mental musk CN Z-5-a?

true

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but that wasn't long after lmao

mental musk Dec 28, 2025, 7:36 AM

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also I am pretty sure that you can add some more AC units

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http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/iocc431505.jpg

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SW1200MG

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if you want more DC locos you would likely have to go flip through lists of industral locos

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the weird and fascinating world of industral railways...

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https://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-b/bap778n.jpg

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GE 125t?

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https://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1816636

Kennecott Copper GE 125-tonner 402 on display at the Oquirrh Mounta...

Kennecott Copper GE 125-tonner 402 on display at the Oquirrh Mountain Mining Museum ”o the Deseret Peak Complex Here is a photo before the new paint job: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=254898&nseq=9

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http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bap202a.jpg

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http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bap202.jpg

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it apears that 125ton was an generic designation of various types...

versed sparrow Dec 28, 2025, 1:17 PM

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Electric bogaloo

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One of 2 bo-bo-bo electric locomotives in the us

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I want to use this grf on mobile tbh

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 9:15 PM

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maybe... I do wanna do them and they wouldn't be that hard

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but this week is also going to be busy for me so we'll see what I can do

strange quiver Dec 28, 2025, 9:55 PM

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also been playing sega rally again, and the safari stages make me wanna do an african train set again...

turbid bronze Dec 29, 2025, 12:10 AM

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heheheh

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time for tropic refurbishment set to return

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that had a bunch of african trains in it

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Great thing with how your sets are is you can just have an offshoot with a few engines in it and complement with the others or Horse to fill out a playable roster.

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 12:12 AM

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yee, that'd be the plan

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and a lot of African stuff would be re-used from the Australian set

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but... Australia/NZ first, and steam locomotives too

versed sparrow Dec 29, 2025, 7:53 AM

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strange quiver but... Australia/NZ first, and steam locomotives too

Steam locomotives in that style would be interesting

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 7:54 AM

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well I'd just be copying Iron horses style

mental musk Dec 29, 2025, 8:01 AM

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how about...

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kit bashing steam and diesel sprites into some diesel-hydraulic siderod-type shunters?

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:04 AM

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Those types of shunters were never common in North America or Oceania

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:06 AM

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also they just never existed

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there really wouldn't be any reason to combine a steam-diesel powertrain

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also been looking at railways in Thailand and they have some neat stuff

signal gate Dec 29, 2025, 8:14 AM

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Malaysia

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has a decent rail system

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:15 AM

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strange quiver also they just never existed

I think he means stuff like that #1019109703453790298 message

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:15 AM

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they've got an electic mix of boxcabs that all look like they'd belong in Australia

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:15 AM

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signal gate Malaysia

yee, Malaysia has lots of cool stuff too

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tbh i'm surprised more south-east asian stuff didn't make it into 2cc trains back in the day

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:15 AM

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haughty pollen I think he means stuff like that https://discord.com/channels/142724111502802944...

ah yeah fair

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:16 AM

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Tinny wanted to make south-east Asian stuff if JP+ were ever to be completed

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:16 AM

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do it, or I will 🙂

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South America, Africa, or South East Asia are the 3 regions I'm trying to decide between focusing on next

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:17 AM

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We'll see who gets there first 😅

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:17 AM

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:)

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tbf I have been looking into doing an updated version of 2cc trains again

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I found a spreadsheet with all the previous content and I've been sorting it out

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I've also been going through and identifying what stuff I can copy from sets I've already done

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with how fast I can draw trains, it's probably doable...

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it also lets me cover a few of the regions I want to, without dedicating all my effort into a specific set

signal gate Dec 29, 2025, 8:18 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keretapi_Tanah_Melayu#Rolling_stock

Keretapi Tanah Melayu

Keretapi Tanah Melayu Berhad (KTMB) (lit. 'Malayan Railway Limited'; Jawi: كريتاڤي تانه ملايو برحد‎) or colloquially referred to simply as KTM, is the main rail operator in Peninsular Malaysia. The railway system dates back to the British colonial era, when it was first built to transport tin. Previously known as the Fede...

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:19 AM

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goofy ass thing

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but also, if any of you wanna look at my spreadsheet

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vnk6-x1mOb2-fPq3FrOk2TPbE96qZwj5x-SEoMiFPOc/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

2CC Trains 2026

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I add things to it occasionally

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I've become a bit too obsessed with spreadsheets lmao

earnest meadow Dec 29, 2025, 8:20 AM

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strange quiver goofy ass thing

prism

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:22 AM

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actually looking through the 2cc roster, there wasn't anything from south east asia in there

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seems like a weird region to skip

signal gate Dec 29, 2025, 8:29 AM

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it's a weirdly invisible region to most Europeans

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despite huge population

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:30 AM

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strange quiver actually looking through the 2cc roster, there wasn't anything from south east a...

There isn't much but there are a few Indonesian locos

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:31 AM

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only two as far as I can see

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a diesel and an electric loco

signal gate Dec 29, 2025, 8:32 AM

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Malyasia Gronk! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keretapi_Tanah_Melayu#/media/File:KTM_Class_15.jpg

Keretapi Tanah Melayu

Keretapi Tanah Melayu Berhad (KTMB) (lit. 'Malayan Railway Limited'; Jawi: كريتاڤي تانه ملايو برحد‎) or colloquially referred to simply as KTM, is the main rail operator in Peninsular Malaysia. The railway system dates back to the British colonial era, when it was first built to transport tin. Previously known as the Fede...

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full Gronk! grf?

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:32 AM

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Oops! All Gronks!

signal gate Dec 29, 2025, 8:32 AM

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every English Electric 350hp 0-6-0?

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:33 AM

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it'd make a fun game at some point

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:33 AM

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Huh, the Indonesian locos are under the Oceania region for some reason

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:33 AM

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but yh, if I were to do a new version of 2cc I'd wanna focus on locos that were sold to multiple regions first if anything

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like these KTM Class 20s were also sold to Egypt and Rhodesia/Zimbabwe

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so that's 3 countries knocked out with on loco

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tbh a new 2cc roster could be made better through adding a few more select locos

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:34 AM

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haughty pollen Huh, the Indonesian locos are under the Oceania region for some reason

tbf I guess it's oceania, depends where you draw the border

signal gate Dec 29, 2025, 8:35 AM

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/ebrg16/20328825414 basically class 37

Flickr

EBRG16

EPH3969 Malayan Railways Class 20 Loco

12SVT (1,500 hp) Class 20 Co-Co Diesel Electric built by English Electric for Malayan Railways. This design was the first main line diesel loco to be introduced to Malaya, in 1957. A total of 26 locomotives were delivered, and immediately took over the principal express services, and could also be seen on freight. The class is now out of servic...

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:35 AM

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strange quiver but yh, if I were to do a new version of 2cc I'd wanna focus on locos that were ...

My thought exactly, I originally wanted to have multi-region locos too but that was rejected

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:35 AM

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haughty pollen My thought exactly, I originally wanted to have multi-region locos too but that ...

any particular reason?

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:35 AM

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The coder didn't want to, that's all

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:35 AM

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when I was looking at the 2cc roster, there were a lot of odd choices that felt weird

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liek the F40PH being in Panama, and the C30-7 in Estonia

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:35 AM

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that's why some of my locos ended up in weird regions

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:36 AM

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which feels dumb, like it'd be better to have more unique locos for those countries

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:36 AM

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haughty pollen The coder didn't want to, that's all

strange

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:37 AM

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The 2cc set had a lot of wierd conflicting ideas lol

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a lot of the locos were drawn just fo fill perceived gaps in an era and region

signal gate Dec 29, 2025, 8:37 AM

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KTM class 22 design also went to Congo https://www.flickr.com/photos/124446949@N06/50406116777

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HISTORICAL RAILWAY IMAGES

Africa Railways - Chemins de Fer du Congo Supérieur aux Grands Lac...

This English Electric locomotive was built to the same design as KTM (Malaysia) Class 22 and is carrying a livery for Chemins de Fer du Congo Supérieur aux Grands Lacs Africains (CFL)

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:37 AM

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haughty pollen a lot of the locos were drawn just fo fill perceived gaps in an era and region

yeah, it feels like the roster wasn't very well thought out

signal gate Dec 29, 2025, 8:37 AM

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2CC, but with badges? 😛

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:38 AM

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I'll probably keep tinkering with it in the background, but I feel like I know where to go with it

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especially now that I'm more experienced drawing/coding and researching obscure trains

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:38 AM

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strange quiver yeah, it feels like the roster wasn't very well thought out

It wasn't, people basically added whatever they felt like drawing

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:38 AM

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signal gate KTM class 22 design also went to Congo https://www.flickr.com/photos/124446949@N...

yee, perfect candidate then 🙂

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:38 AM

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signal gate 2CC, but with badges? 😛

sure 🙂

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:38 AM

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haughty pollen It wasn't, people basically added whatever they felt like drawing

that'd do it

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but yh, gonna work on this more later, I've been addicted to sega rally because I'm stuck in 2010

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priority is North America and Oceania anyway

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steam locomotives too

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I need to keep on track lmao

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:40 AM

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Hehe, the 2cc trainset also feels very 2010 to me

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that's the main trainset I used back then

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:40 AM

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yee, so it could use an update

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also if only to bring the graphics more in line with what we expect today

haughty pollen Dec 29, 2025, 8:41 AM

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No need to redo every useless engine

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and gauge/voltage support would be great to havve

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 8:47 AM

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yee, now that I know how to do it, it's something worthwhile including

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still have to work out how to do the gauge stuff first

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but... I'll be doing that with the Oceanian stuff regardless

mental musk Dec 29, 2025, 9:02 AM

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strange quiver goofy ass thing

i love the way it looks

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wait an moment

You are going to remake the 2cc?

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 9:17 AM

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mental musk wait an moment You are going to remake the 2cc?

it's a consideration

mental musk Dec 29, 2025, 9:17 AM

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neat idea

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but generally a few questions

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a lot of locos were used in numerous countries/railways
I think that these should have thair start date as date of start of operation in the first operator?
But the name? Factory designation? (These are ususally less known than railroads designations...)
The roaster should be adjusted for good gameplay value, so at any point of gameplay you have locos/MUs for all categories/classes/services no matter what regions do You use
Technical parameters balance, ESPECIALLY passenger carrying stock, as diffrent countries have diffrent norms for amount of standing passengers / squere meter

strange quiver Dec 29, 2025, 9:28 AM

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yee, those are all things to be considered

versed sparrow Dec 29, 2025, 1:01 PM

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I find it funny how there's vnr coaches but not a single vnr engine to pull em

mental musk Dec 29, 2025, 4:31 PM

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/2-2-2_Locomotive_'Flea'_(1865)_as_Sierra_Nevada_Wood_%26_Lumber_Company_No._4.jpg

strange quiver Dec 30, 2025, 1:14 AM

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They call me 007
0 new trains drawn
0 showers since christmas
7 angry emails to the landlord about getting the hot water fixed

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I guess today's theme is gonna be smelly locomotives

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I should do more ALCOs lmao

strange quiver Dec 30, 2025, 2:40 AM

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DD40A and DDA40X done

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big stinky

frosty sand Dec 30, 2025, 2:42 AM

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Big stinky indeed

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Sorry to hear about your lack of hot water, that sounds miserable

strange quiver Dec 30, 2025, 2:42 AM

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it very much is 🫠

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also tangent, but I just noticed that in the EMD catalogue, locomotive names are displayed as "SD-38", while everywhere else they're displayed as "SD38"

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guessing EMD did this for a bit, then dropped it later

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the current catalogue lists it as the "SD70ACe"

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I have a terrible idea...

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DD90MAC with ~12,000hp?

frosty sand Dec 30, 2025, 2:59 AM

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Yes!

strange quiver Dec 30, 2025, 3:00 AM

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onto the goober list it goes...

late pewter Dec 30, 2025, 3:01 AM

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strange quiver They call me 007 0 new trains drawn 0 showers since christmas 7 angry emails to ...

At this point i think you might need to break your landlords water heater

strange quiver Dec 30, 2025, 3:01 AM

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late pewter At this point i think you might need to break your landlords water heater

well I don't know his address 🙁

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tbf it's also been the real estate (who's managing the property) that has been shitty

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I emailed the landlord directly and he immediately replied lmao

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my time living in rentals and working as a town planner has radicalised me against real estate agents I stg

late pewter Dec 30, 2025, 3:04 AM

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Well

turbid bronze Dec 30, 2025, 3:30 AM

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strange quiver DD40A and DDA40X done

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

turbid bronze Dec 30, 2025, 3:31 AM

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strange quiver DD90MAC with ~12,000hp?

ALSO YESSSSSSSSS

turbid bronze Dec 30, 2025, 3:31 AM

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strange quiver my time living in rentals and working as a town planner has radicalised me again...

Real estate agents are literally the devil. Mine hasn't been too bad though here in brisbong

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They gave us a newsletter email before christmas with their closure times and a dedicated maintenance companies number for any issues lol

strange quiver Dec 30, 2025, 3:37 AM

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turbid bronze ALSO YESSSSSSSSS

:3

strange quiver Dec 30, 2025, 3:37 AM

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turbid bronze They gave us a newsletter email before christmas with their closure times and a ...

yh, they did that for a us too

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they just don't check it until they get back, which raises the point of why have the emergency email there in the first place!

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but legit in my work as a planner, the amount of dumb shit real estate agents say/do is frustrating

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so many of them seem to think they're planners too, despite not being qualified, and give people the worst advice

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like telling someone if they buy a property they could subdivide it (despite it being too small), or telling someone that the property is fine with no issues (despite an easement under the house, or the house not being approved and being constructed in a zone that doesn't permit houses)

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I've only been a working planer for a year and I have so many stories of me having to clarify to people that their real estate agent lied to me that it's genuinely concerning

severe elbow Dec 30, 2025, 11:22 AM

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strange quiver They call me 007 0 new trains drawn 0 showers since christmas 7 angry emails to ...

Ever had a cold shower?

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They’re quite nice

strange quiver Dec 30, 2025, 11:30 AM

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I have and it was not nice

severe elbow Dec 30, 2025, 11:31 AM

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its hot over there at the moment no?

strange quiver Dec 30, 2025, 11:31 AM

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yeah, but the water that comes out my taps is really cold

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not sure why, but at my parents place it comes out warm in the summer

left cipher Dec 30, 2025, 11:35 AM

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ive only ever had one cold shower that i enjoyed and it was after a full hour or more of an extremely intense game of ultimate frisbee in the middle of the summer

versed sparrow Dec 30, 2025, 12:19 PM

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Huh

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I just realized the only steam loco that has a stop speed of over 62 mph in the 2cc narrow gauge trainset is the sar class 25

woeful halo Dec 30, 2025, 2:21 PM

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severe elbow Ever had a cold shower?

Cold showers in summer are good

mint cargo Dec 30, 2025, 8:59 PM

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strange quiver DD90MAC with ~12,000hp?

I Want to play a game only if the goober designs. How much of theses designs are made too?

strange quiver Dec 30, 2025, 9:30 PM

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mint cargo I Want to play a game only if the goober designs. How much of theses designs are...

none, I've only done the side view as an experiment

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but actually completing them wouldn't be hard

turbid bronze Dec 30, 2025, 9:49 PM

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More goobers

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And big STINKY locomotives

strange quiver Dec 30, 2025, 9:49 PM

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sooooooon

steep echo Dec 31, 2025, 1:10 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/monke-uh-oh-stinky-uh-oh-stinky-monke-gif-18263597

Tenor

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Have the bastards fixed your hot water yet?

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I legit would stay with family or at a hotel if i was in your position

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Being unable to wash with hot water sounds like a sensory nightmare

strange quiver Dec 31, 2025, 1:17 AM

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oh yh they fixed it this morning lmao

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turns out emailing the landlord directly and not going through the real estate is how you get things fixed

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also I'm kinda curious, I wonder how many unqiue locomotives I've done for NARP so far...

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I reckon around 70

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it's 148

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oh no...

steep echo Dec 31, 2025, 5:15 AM

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yeah that's a few more than 70

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xd

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good that you got the water fixed tho

strange quiver Dec 31, 2025, 11:08 PM

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I should really look into integrating badges...

turbid bronze Dec 31, 2025, 11:43 PM

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happy new year goober

strange quiver Dec 31, 2025, 11:49 PM

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You too nerd

versed sparrow Jan 1, 2026, 6:17 AM

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Happy new year to everyone also any big goobers ?

strange quiver Jan 1, 2026, 7:21 AM

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okay so first test works well

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I'm gonna have two different track labels that I'll use

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so for locomotives that are multiple gauges (like this GM class). There will be a standard gauge variant that's the default, and a broad gauge version that appears only if you have a corresponding track type

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for locomotives that are a single gauge, if that track type isn't available, then they'll automatically fallback to being standard gauge

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so stuff like the A class will still be available, despite them only ever being built for broad gauge

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there are some edge cases that were only narrow/broad, but iirc there's only one

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also there's a little bit of a difference between a full size GM class and the narrow gauge wagons in horse lmao

strange quiver Jan 1, 2026, 11:34 AM

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creating a list of Australian/NZ steam locomotives, and I've noticed that a certain track gauge is over represented when it comes to tank locomotives

turbid bronze Jan 1, 2026, 11:45 AM

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tank locomotives for days

mental musk Jan 1, 2026, 11:54 AM

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strange quiver creating a list of Australian/NZ steam locomotives, and I've noticed that a cert...

koninchewa....

severe elbow Jan 1, 2026, 5:09 PM

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strange quiver creating a list of Australian/NZ steam locomotives, and I've noticed that a cert...

Well yes

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Nz had a ton of tank locos

severe elbow Jan 1, 2026, 5:10 PM

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mental musk koninchewa....

What?

mental musk Jan 1, 2026, 5:12 PM

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severe elbow What?

it means good morning in Japanese

I just wrote this, becouse the lit ^^^ is mostly composed of 1067mm locos
and 1067 is the track gauge used in Japan

flat hare Jan 1, 2026, 5:18 PM

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i don't think that means anything in any language

severe elbow Jan 1, 2026, 5:19 PM

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mental musk it means good morning in Japanese I just wrote this, becouse the lit ^^^ is mos...

New Zealand is fully 1067…

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The states of Western Australia and Queensland are mostly 1067mm as well

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First county I think of when someone mentions 1067mm is New Zealand

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Had 1067 before Japan infact

strange quiver Jan 1, 2026, 10:29 PM

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I suppose now v15 is out, I should update my NARP stuff on Bananas...

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I'm gonna have to update the MU pack actually...

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hnnnng

versed sparrow Jan 1, 2026, 11:44 PM

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I find it funny how the 2000 class has 2 motors instead of 1 motor and 1 coach

strange quiver Jan 1, 2026, 11:45 PM

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which 2000 class? I'm also not sure what you mean?

versed sparrow Jan 2, 2026, 12:16 AM

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strange quiver which 2000 class? I'm also not sure what you mean?

This 2000 class the jumbos

strange quiver Jan 2, 2026, 12:18 AM

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yeah?

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they have a power car and generally 1-2 non powered cars

turbid bronze Jan 2, 2026, 12:29 AM

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those fucken things

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ridden far too many of them

crystal crag Jan 2, 2026, 12:29 AM

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They look neat

turbid bronze Jan 2, 2026, 12:29 AM

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they were shit

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huge though

crystal crag Jan 2, 2026, 12:30 AM

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Yeah they look like they'd not be good

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But the front is cool

turbid bronze Jan 2, 2026, 12:30 AM

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every time I see the trains here in qld they just look like cute little chibi trains

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coming from a broad gauge state to fucking narrow gauge

crystal crag Jan 2, 2026, 12:31 AM

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I never actually looked into this now that I think about it do they still use different gauges over there or is it standardized

turbid bronze Jan 2, 2026, 12:31 AM

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god no

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three main gauges

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broad gauge runs all of SA's suburban rail network, and parts of rural victoria. Standard gauge is used for most inter-state freight, and vic and nsw I believe is all standard gauge. QLD is all narrow gauge and some rare standard gauge freight coming in from interstate

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I don't know what happens in WA and I don't care.

crystal crag Jan 2, 2026, 12:33 AM

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Plot twist it's a fourth different gauge

turbid bronze Jan 2, 2026, 12:33 AM

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sounds like something they'd do

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QLD also has like 600mm super narrow gauge sugarcane trains

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but those are local railways

crystal crag Jan 2, 2026, 12:34 AM

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nods

steep echo Jan 2, 2026, 12:42 AM

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turbid bronze I don't know what happens in WA and I don't care.

Does anyone?

haughty pollen Jan 2, 2026, 1:23 AM

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turbid bronze broad gauge runs all of SA's suburban rail network, and parts of rural victoria....

Melbourne suburban is all broad gauge too

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Perth suburban is mostly narrow gauge but most regional/long distance lines are standard

turbid bronze Jan 2, 2026, 1:25 AM

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haughty pollen Melbourne suburban is all broad gauge too

ah interesting, I though it was only vic regional that was broad

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like little local lines or something

haughty pollen Jan 2, 2026, 1:34 AM

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Vic was all broad gauge originally but some lines have been converted to standard

strange quiver Jan 2, 2026, 1:34 AM

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okay MU code heavily updated to take advantage of a lot more sprite stacking, still got some tweaks I wanna do, but this would make doing MUs easier. Also they now respond to being on/off the OHLE

strange quiver Jan 2, 2026, 1:35 AM

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haughty pollen Vic was all broad gauge originally but some lines have been converted to standar...

pretty much. There's been plans to convert more of the regional lines, but they've all faultered

versed sparrow Jan 2, 2026, 1:57 AM

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strange quiver they have a power car and generally 1-2 non powered cars

What i mean is that the sprite shows both of them having power cars

turbid bronze Jan 2, 2026, 1:58 AM

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All of that stuff is incredibly old and going to get redone entirely.

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the only current stuff is the North American stuff and that's not on bananas yet

strange quiver Jan 2, 2026, 2:02 AM

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versed sparrow What i mean is that the sprite shows both of them having power cars

Oh yh that'll be fixed

versed sparrow Jan 2, 2026, 2:19 AM

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turbid bronze the only current stuff is the North American stuff and that's not on bananas yet

Cool

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 12:02 AM

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retweaked the single MU code, so now we're using sprite stacks

severe elbow Jan 3, 2026, 12:03 AM

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love single coach ohle units

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 12:03 AM

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also removed the "can_attach_wagon" control, so now you can do what you want, plus they automatically lower their pantographs when off the overhead line

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 12:03 AM

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severe elbow love single coach ohle units

they're so cool 🙂

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 12:21 AM

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Also the DD1 code seems to have broken despite me not touching it for months?

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okay turns out I broke the 5 template lmao, fixed now

turbid bronze Jan 3, 2026, 12:34 AM

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Could have been me, I was screwing with the templates remember

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 12:35 AM

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maybe

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either way, it was an easy fix

haughty pollen Jan 3, 2026, 1:27 AM

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strange quiver also removed the "can_attach_wagon" control, so now you can do what you want, pl...

Are you using the random flip flag for these?

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 1:27 AM

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haughty pollen Are you using the random flip flag for these?

nah, reverse probability

haughty pollen Jan 3, 2026, 1:28 AM

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Yeah that's what I meant, I think

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 1:28 AM

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ah, well yh, that's the one I'm using

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it's just a bit simpler on the code end

haughty pollen Jan 3, 2026, 1:29 AM

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That's the way to do it these days :)

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 1:34 AM

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yee 🙂

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 2:09 AM

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also applying for jobs rn, and I finally applied for that one that Deutsche Bahn keeps spamming me with

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and they seem to like switching from english to german mid application which is fun...

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but that's done, so more trains

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 8:30 AM

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slowly tweaking the MU pack a bit, code and everything should be good to go.

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I'm gonna focus on a smaller selection to remaster solely because I'm not super bothered to focus on MUs atm

turbid bronze Jan 3, 2026, 10:52 AM

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Yeah I often find MU's to get a bit samey after a while

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I liked NARS MU's because there weren't many of them and they were usually all super different to each other

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 10:53 AM

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yeee...

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tbh I'm probably not gonna do too many, and I'll focus on unique ones

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but long term I'll aim to have a plethora

turbid bronze Jan 3, 2026, 10:53 AM

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that said, NARS had the TTDPatch engine limits, whereas you've gone m a x i m a l i s t

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 10:54 AM

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I'm close to Openttds engine limit with the locomotive set 🙂

turbid bronze Jan 3, 2026, 10:54 AM

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also you really are doing everything you can to avoid drawing steam locos aren't you 😛

strange quiver Jan 3, 2026, 10:56 AM

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no.... I'm just trying to get NARP ready to go

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I expected v15 to take longer to release

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but in the background I've been prepping my docs to start assigning ids to steam locomotives

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 3:02 AM

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more MUs

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might reduce the front stripe on the LIRR version

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better I think

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 4:09 AM

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M8s done 🙂

wind valley Jan 4, 2026, 6:13 AM

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strange quiver M8s done 🙂

m8s always looked overdesigned to me
like they have so much going on that it's a little hard to actually see details

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 6:37 AM

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wind valley m8s always looked overdesigned to me like they have so much going on that it's a...

I can see that, but they're still cool imo

mental musk Jan 4, 2026, 7:59 AM

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now just remove pantos, redesign the roof and...

M7 done

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 9:36 AM

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mental musk now just remove pantos, redesign the roof and... M7 done

Scroll up

mental musk Jan 4, 2026, 9:37 AM

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You are sooooo quick

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you advance forward like an express trin

severe elbow Jan 4, 2026, 9:49 AM

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strange quiver M8s done 🙂

All the middle coaches built have pantographs though

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 9:50 AM

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severe elbow All the middle coaches built have pantographs though

Yeah, but pantograph code is hard

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So it gets code designed for Australian EMUs

severe elbow Jan 4, 2026, 9:50 AM

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1 pantograph per 2 coaches?

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 9:51 AM

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Maybe, but idk how to modify this code to do that

severe elbow Jan 4, 2026, 9:51 AM

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Oh I thought that was what happened in the oceanian set

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 9:52 AM

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Well its the same code

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Just modifying it is above my head

earnest meadow Jan 4, 2026, 5:12 PM

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severe elbow All the middle coaches built have pantographs though

yep

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:01 PM

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@strange quiver still using IHBA?

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:02 PM

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time for upgrade?

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:03 PM

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glossy compass <@216730832122019841> still using IHBA?

iirc I removed it since there didn't seem to be a point

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but I should probably re-add it again

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tbh idk what to do with it

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:03 PM

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Pretty sure nothing will support it now that horse doesn't even use it

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:04 PM

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we should probably sort your railtypes out

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:04 PM

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yee

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well once you know what you're doing, I'll tweak my stuff to support it

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:05 PM

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it's done in Horse 4

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:05 PM

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I'll go have a look then

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:06 PM

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https://grf.farm/iron-horse/4.0.0/html/code_reference.html#railtypes_and_fallbacks

grf.farm

Iron Horse - Code reference

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:06 PM

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iirc I tested horse 4 with JP+ and it still makes its dedicated high speed track appear

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:06 PM

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doesn't on my side

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:06 PM

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Bananas JP+ might

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:06 PM

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make sure you have recent JP+ yeah

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grab it off their github

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:07 PM

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I still have to test my theoretical nml code for implementing fallbacks for ac/dc

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Iirc v4 does something similar and works so it should be no issue

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:08 PM

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turbid bronze make sure you have recent JP+ yeah

ah okay then

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:10 PM

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the situation between Horse and the AC/DC current types in JP+ is best not looked into 🙂

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just squint, and assume it's ok

rancid bear Jan 4, 2026, 10:10 PM

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In fairness I did experience the dedicated tracks showing up even with the latest JP+ tracks from GitHub… but going from Iron Horse RC3 to the release seems to have removed the issue

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:11 PM

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🤷‍♂️

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it's been sorted for a while, prior to any RC

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but there's quite a lot depends on grf load order, state of railtypes in a savegame etc

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:12 PM

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rancid bear In fairness I did experience the dedicated tracks showing up even with the lates...

I've been running all the RC's and not had that issue.

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:12 PM

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signal gate the situation between Horse and the AC/DC current types in JP+ is best not looke...

could make it so they use an AC track type if a dedicated one is available, but otherwise just do the normal ELRL track type if one isn't

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that's how my stuff is set up

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:12 PM

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strange quiver could make it so they use an AC track type if a dedicated one is available, but ...

I believe that's how JP+ does it anyway

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:13 PM

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I did know a few weeks ago

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ELRL is the dual power track or something

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:13 PM

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turbid bronze I believe that's how JP+ does it anyway

tbf I probably stole it from them 🙂

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:13 PM

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Yeah

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I run it in the dual mode regardless

rancid bear Jan 4, 2026, 10:13 PM

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turbid bronze I've been running all the RC's and not had that issue.

My bad, could well have been using the older banana version of JP tracks… ignore me

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:14 PM

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anyway, nobody is complaining, and I don't use JP+, so it seems there are two sets of happy campers

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:14 PM

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Yeah I've been following it pretty closely

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:14 PM

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signal gate anyway, nobody is complaining, and I don't use JP+, so it seems there are two se...

yh, but I use horse and JP+ 🙁

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:14 PM

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all is for the best in this the best of all possible worlds

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:14 PM

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I still don't think there was anything wrong at all with the old method with the parameter.

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:14 PM

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one too many discussions about it

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:15 PM

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Could have just popped a warning if you detect another track grf with the parameter still on but we're past that point now

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:15 PM

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New method is cool and "automatic"

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:15 PM

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🤷‍♂️

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it was an adventure learning about railtype label resolution order and loading stages

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and reserve vs activate

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anyway @strange quiver you need to use the updated prop 0x34, but I don't know what the state of nml support is

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:17 PM

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prop 34 was just for HST wasn't it?

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:17 PM

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what even is it?

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:17 PM

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prop 0x34 is a list of railtypes

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instead of a single railtype in prop 0x05

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was patched in nml in Sept 2025, and in recent tagged releases

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:17 PM

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It's supported somewhere and in the docs

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:18 PM

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also, tested horse with the latest version of JP+ and it works better, just the high speed stuff still defaults to the slower speed because there's not compatability with other sets high speed track

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so it might be worthwhile for horse to have a paramater to disable that behaviour

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:18 PM

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signal gate was patched in nml in Sept 2025, and in recent tagged releases

fair, is there any benefit to changing though?

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:19 PM

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https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Guide_to_railtypes#Trains_with_multiple_track_types

Guide to railtypes

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:19 PM

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I thought Yozora added the ih_behaviour/lgv_capable badge to JP+

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but I might be confused with U&ReRMM

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which definitely has it

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:20 PM

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The HST stuff works on their high speed tracks

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He added it to a few, there's a few qualifying options for gottagofast

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:20 PM

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signal gate I thought Yozora added the `ih_behaviour/lgv_capable` badge to JP+

I think you did at one point for testing

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:20 PM

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🤷‍♂️

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:20 PM

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My current game is in 1911 so hard for me to test 😛

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But I distinctly remember testing it myself

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:21 PM

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turbid bronze The HST stuff works on their high speed tracks

it does

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:21 PM

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@strange quiver prop 0x34 is useful for:

trains that have wide compatibility with type of track
dual mode, or bi-mode (or tri-mode) trains

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:21 PM

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I'm just a goober and didn't think to check teh actual train

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:21 PM

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prop 0x34 also can cut down or eliminate some of the crazy 'fallback' NML stuff

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:22 PM

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signal gate prop 0x34 also can cut down or eliminate some of the crazy 'fallback' NML stuff

okay I'll have to look into it then

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:22 PM

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I thought you already had Ragin? Or maybe I'm halucinating wildly again

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:22 PM

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maybe you did

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:22 PM

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Maybe?

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lemme find a code snippet

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:22 PM

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this could be an amusingly pointless chat

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it will be track_type:

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:22 PM

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_AAE would no longer be needed for example

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:23 PM

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and if it's a list you're using prop 0x34

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:23 PM

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like this is how the M8 is setup

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:23 PM

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glossy compass https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Guide_to_railtypes#Trains_with_multiple_tr...

This has some

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:23 PM

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yes, although that looks like it's also using an NML fallback

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~~and ELRL is preferable to SAA3~~

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:24 PM

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probably, this is the fallback I'm using

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:24 PM

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signal gate ~~and ELRL is preferable to SAA3~~

yh, but this is an AC OHLE and 3rd rail unit

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SAA3 is just the tag I'm using

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:24 PM

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yeah I'm wrong

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I misread it as SAAE

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what's the SBA3, SCA3 etc?

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:25 PM

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Labels that shouldnt be therd

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:25 PM

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yeah shouldn't be there

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:26 PM

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yeah, they're useless, idk why they're there

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:26 PM

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SAA3 also isn't even in the list

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:26 PM

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yup

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:26 PM

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they're just different track weights and idk why they're there

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:26 PM

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was this cargo-culted to you?

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:26 PM

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signal gate was this cargo-culted to you?

probably lmoa, but I also know how it works now so it's an easy fix

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:26 PM

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I think this is what triggered my 2025-year-of-railtypes

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:26 PM

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I thought that was speed tbh

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:27 PM

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I saw these tables getting handed around

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wrong

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by people with no clue

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copied around all the UK sets etc

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"people with no clue" sounds judgey

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I mean "it was all too hard"

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2nd char is speed

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and setting it ~~violates~~ diverges from Standardised Scheme

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so is SAA3 supposed to represent 3rd rail, or metro?

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:29 PM

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just third rail

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iirc it doesn't make any differentiation for a specific metro rail type

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although I think "metro" as a railtype is kinda outdated anyway

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:30 PM

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No but you could

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:30 PM

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metro is a valid railtype, but not in the standardised scheme

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it's an alternative world view

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you probably don't really need a fallback for that one

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:31 PM

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I suppose

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but regardless, it's not a differentiation I intend on including in all my sets

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:31 PM

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track_type: [OHLE_AC, SAA3] might do it

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:31 PM

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if only to avoid track spam, because we don't need two separate third rail track types

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:31 PM

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some sets have 4 or 5

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that's railtypes 🙂

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:32 PM

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tbf lots of track types can be nice

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but it's also good to keep in simple, when it's reasonable

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:32 PM

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so this unit

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do you want it to run on?

3rd rail tracks from standardised scheme?
3rd rail tracks in old grfs?
metro tracks?
4th rail tracks from the standardised scheme?

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:34 PM

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well the M8 I just want it to run on SAA3

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and it's an easy code tweak to get working

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:35 PM

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currently it doesn't run on SAA3 except by accident

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if you have it working on SAA3, it only works on SAA3 because some railtype grf is handling cross-compatibility

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:35 PM

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3rdr is probably worth usinh too not that I know what tracksets support it but not SAA3

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:36 PM

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signal gate if you have it working on SAA3, it only works on SAA3 because some railtype grf ...

well it works fine with JP+ and U&RERMM

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if it stops working I can always adjust it

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:36 PM

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JP+ sets a very aggressive set of compatibility labels

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it tries to just make everything work almost everywhere

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:36 PM

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It won't work with sets in the way you would want

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:36 PM

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glossy compass 3rdr is probably worth usinh too not that I know what tracksets support it but n...

already do 🙂

glossy compass Jan 4, 2026, 10:37 PM

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I know

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:37 PM

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signal gate it tries to just make everything work almost everywhere

yee

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:42 PM

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well another day, we could maybe simplify it

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:48 PM

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yeee

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for now, I have some more MUs I wanna do

signal gate Jan 4, 2026, 10:48 PM

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are they all ELRL? 😛

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:49 PM

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well they fallback to that if the right tracktype isn't available 🙂

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but yh, looking at what I have, I probably want a 50s era third rail MU to bridge the gap between the MP54 and Metropolitan

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and potentially something in the 90s to bridge the gap between the Cosmopolitan and the M8

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and so the entire OHLE roster isn't dual-voltage

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so I might do the ACMU and MR-90

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:50 PM

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widdle_goblin

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:51 PM

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turbid bronze <:widdle_goblin:862676091395375186>

I'm a busy woman 🙂

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:51 PM

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lmao

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I see a commit labeled 'BIG STINKY'

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that'd be my DDA40X

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:51 PM

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it would be iirc

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I feel like these should be more descriptive but I'm also not a professional

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:53 PM

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It's fine for personall projects IMO, I mean if you're trying to get a job as a software developer you might want to use it as an example that you can be profeshunal but yeah

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:53 PM

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strange quiver but yh, looking at what I have, I probably want a 50s era third rail MU to bridg...

also I might try and include some DC MUs for variety

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:54 PM

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if there's enough variety in AC/DC then I might start using it seperately in my games but for the moment I'm running combined

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:54 PM

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turbid bronze It's fine for personall projects IMO, I mean if you're trying to get a job as a ...

yeah, I don't want a software job lmao

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:54 PM

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turbid bronze if there's enough variety in AC/DC then I might start using it seperately in my ...

yeah, that's the problem though

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the US doesn't really have any DC stuff anymore

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:55 PM

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Yeah I work in tech but I don't do software

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:55 PM

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so the US Set will mostly be AC, but...

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the Australian set will mostly be DC

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so both together should give a fair bit of variety

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:55 PM

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I have other things for demonstrating my chops in my particular field.

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:56 PM

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turbid bronze I have other things for demonstrating my chops in my particular field.

I think you're a coward if you're not willing to show a potentil employer a commit called "big stinky"

turbid bronze Jan 4, 2026, 10:56 PM

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Hah, pretty sure my github is on my resume as well but yeah

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Giving a 100ft description of what NFO is to an interviewer is a funj

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 10:59 PM

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I could imagine lmao

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I have to be professional on my youtube because that's technichally on my resume

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tbf I've not mentioned my openttd work in a job application, but I suppose it's a good extra curricular

crystal crag Jan 4, 2026, 11:38 PM

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strange quiver I feel like these should be more descriptive but I'm also not a professional

"I'm gay and I have a tummy ache :("
Story of my life tbh, also those commits are more descriptive than mine

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 11:39 PM

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crystal crag "I'm gay and I have a tummy ache :(" Story of my life tbh, also those commits ar...

if you have a lifelong stomach ache you should get that checked out 🙂

crystal crag Jan 4, 2026, 11:39 PM

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Ive tried and the best I got "It's probably stress related"

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 11:40 PM

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rip :/

crystal crag Jan 4, 2026, 11:40 PM

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Also agreed on not wanting a software job. The existence of SCRUM makes me not want to work professionally in the field

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Anyway all that aside keep up the good work drawing pretty pixel trains!

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 11:42 PM

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crystal crag Anyway all that aside keep up the good work drawing pretty pixel trains!

thanks nerd!

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 11:43 PM

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crystal crag Also agreed on not wanting a software job. The existence of SCRUM makes me not w...

scrum?

crystal crag Jan 4, 2026, 11:44 PM

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Scrum is an Agile framework for iterative and incremental project management, focusing on teamwork in short cycles called "Sprints" (usually 2-4 weeks) to deliver high-value products, emphasizing flexibility, collaboration, and continuous feedback

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Conceptually fine but my brain cannot work with the system of having to take on tickets and judge for myself what is the magical middle ground of "Enough to be productive, not too much to overwork yourself, not too little to be slacking", and also daily stand ups to explain what you've done, what you'll be doing, and what problems you had/might have. Just makes me feel stressed out and burn out.

strange quiver Jan 4, 2026, 11:47 PM

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fair enough

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doesn't sound too fun :/

strange quiver Jan 5, 2026, 12:19 AM

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MR-90 redone

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also I'm thinking of my plan for the MU pack to finish up the:

RDC
ACMU
Metroliner
and then release it

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since those will all be the final things I'd wanna include in NARP for now

frosty sand Jan 5, 2026, 12:48 AM

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Yesss

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Can't wait to start a new game with Horse 4 and NARP

strange quiver Jan 5, 2026, 12:49 AM

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:)))))

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oh actually, I should do the X2000 too since I'll need that for ORP

frosty sand Jan 5, 2026, 12:50 AM

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I have a blurry voxel X2000 you can steal 😛

strange quiver Jan 5, 2026, 12:50 AM

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but I like my own 🙁

frosty sand Jan 5, 2026, 12:51 AM

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Ah, didn't realize you'd already drawn it 😄

strange quiver Jan 5, 2026, 12:51 AM

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I did ages back

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there's one in both ORP and the original version of NARP atm

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it's just in the old "oops all noise" style

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I'm gonna need to redo the push-pull code too so aaa

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also one thing I just thought about, but irl TGVs have one pantograph for AC and one for DC

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so I'll need to tweak the VFT code so it can detect that, since they did spec them for both AC and DC

strange quiver Jan 5, 2026, 1:39 AM

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Metroliners done

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got the rebuilt units as the proposed Metroliner II, so they're technichally a proposal and real but meh

strange quiver Jan 5, 2026, 2:28 AM

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ACMUs done

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included a randwom switch so it has a 50/50 change of having an assymetrical cab

turbid bronze Jan 5, 2026, 2:42 AM

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widdle_goblin

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I should probably be doing some work

strange quiver Jan 5, 2026, 2:48 AM

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turbid bronze <:widdle_goblin:862676091395375186>

I know!!! I'm gonna update it either later today or tomorrow

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basically whenever I finish this stuff up

turbid bronze Jan 5, 2026, 2:56 AM

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lol all good, I saw the icon changed so I figured you were somewhere in the guts of it 😛

strange quiver Jan 5, 2026, 2:58 AM

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yeeeeee

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all good

strange quiver Jan 5, 2026, 3:36 AM

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also doing some testing in a game in the 1980s, the first OHLE electro diesel locomotive becomes available is the SD40-DM in 1972

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so I might quickly do a passenger equivelant, because there isn't one until the DP32AC in 2003

strange quiver Jan 5, 2026, 5:34 AM

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Had an idea, basically a GE U-boat combined with part of a little joe to make a weird dual-mode locomotive

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4500hp on AC, and 1200hp on diesel

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not sure if I'll keep it... but as a 1950s electro-diesel, it kinda works?

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my other consideration was just an OHLE version of the FL9, but I feel like this is more interesting

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also it's an a new haven skin because I wasn't sure what other livery to do lmao

mental musk Jan 5, 2026, 6:57 AM

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strange quiver it's just in the old "oops all noise" style

there was also an SPV prototype with this type of streamlined cab

Maybe make it?

strange quiver Jan 5, 2026, 6:58 AM

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Its on the todo list but I'm not doing it atm

crystal crag Jan 5, 2026, 7:48 AM

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Is the rocket train on the to-do list

signal gate Jan 5, 2026, 7:53 AM

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@crystal crag scrum isn't particularly oppressive BTW....I have seen two people really struggle with it, but both of them were really struggling with "holding down a job"

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I mean jobs....don't suit everyone 😛

crystal crag Jan 5, 2026, 7:58 AM

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signal gate <@222684253354196993> scrum isn't particularly oppressive BTW....I have seen two...

I recognise that it's more a personal issue with the system than a system issue, yeah

turbid bronze Jan 5, 2026, 8:08 AM

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signal gate <@222684253354196993> scrum isn't particularly oppressive BTW....I have seen two...

also depends on who's implementing it

signal gate Jan 5, 2026, 8:12 AM

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yair very much

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I am a big fan of the principles and effects of scrum

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but mostly it does this:

instead of griping about "we have no process, everybody does their own thing"
we can gripe instead about scrum, which creates a team

turbid bronze Jan 5, 2026, 8:14 AM

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or gripe about the ticketing system

signal gate Jan 5, 2026, 8:14 AM

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exactly

turbid bronze Jan 5, 2026, 8:14 AM

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I'm just glad I don't have to fill 35 of 40 hours each week in a ticketing system anymore

signal gate Jan 5, 2026, 8:14 AM

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or gripe about why tickets more than 4 points are basically unestimatable

turbid bronze Jan 5, 2026, 8:15 AM

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I have to do two different sets of timesheets, but they aren't terribly difficult.

signal gate Jan 5, 2026, 8:15 AM

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scrum tends to bomb with a specific kind of person who:

neither likes nor understands other humans
neither likes nor understands systems

turbid bronze Jan 5, 2026, 8:16 AM

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OOOH THERE'S A KOOKABURRA ON MY STREET SOMEWHERE

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don't normally hear them much in qld

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they're everywhere in NSW

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I've seen a few owls so-far

signal gate Jan 5, 2026, 8:20 AM

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any dropbears in brisvegas?

turbid bronze Jan 5, 2026, 8:20 AM

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probably

mental musk Jan 5, 2026, 10:51 AM

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turbid bronze OOOH THERE'S A KOOKABURRA ON MY STREET SOMEWHERE

there's one in zoo in my town

I love it's wonky proportions lol

strange quiver Jan 6, 2026, 12:57 AM

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SPV2000 done in the same livery as the one my friend tortures because they're a psychopath

grave cedar Jan 6, 2026, 1:14 AM

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Nice

strange quiver Jan 6, 2026, 1:28 AM

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RDC's done

strange quiver Jan 6, 2026, 2:18 AM

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I never get to play with my own sets, so it's nice to actually play with my own trains and them actually look really good in game

finite mountain Jan 6, 2026, 2:41 AM

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strange quiver I never get to play with my own sets, so it's nice to actually play with my own ...

What pack is that dam from?

strange quiver Jan 6, 2026, 2:41 AM

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finite mountain What pack is that dam from?

it's one of the Auz ones

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