I don't have a category for "Road switcher", since that's a type of locomotive body more so than a role*
#Ragins Train Sets
strange quiver
mental musk
I don't have a category for "Road switcher", since that's a type of locomotive b...
medium-class locomotive capable of both doing shunting and trip loco service
strange quiver
if you categorised it by service type, ie Branch-Line/Light, General, Heavy passenerg/freight/mixed traffic, that'd be the way to do it
mental musk
God... Thay just wanted to have as much universal locos as possible
V100s can be categorised as brench lines
same for V60s
and everything larger is mainline
strange quiver
*medium-class locomotive capable of both doing shunting and trip loco service*
I know, but I need to know more what specific type of service it can be do, did it mostly haul passenger trains? freight trains? both? was it mostly a shunter?
mental musk
(V180, BR130 etc. is mainline)
strange quiver
it depends on its power output and history mostly
and a lot of it is some guess work
mental musk
I know, but I need to know more what specific type of service it can be do, did ...
V100s did literally everything
same for V180s
the BR130s - these with train heating did both passenger and goodstrains
The ones without it did the same, albright passenger trains only in the summer
strange quiver
V100s did literally everything
then they can just be Mixed-Traffic
there's this old roster I worked on ages back for a european set if you wanna see how I broadly lay out locomotive types
mental musk
then they can just be Mixed-Traffic
V100 - light-medium mixed traffic
V180 4 axle - medium mixed traffic
V180 6 axle - heavy mixed traffic
BR119 - heavy mixed traffic
BR130 - heavy mixed traffic
strange quiver
it's not perfect, but it's got a fair few locomotives on it
mental musk
indeed
how do you define high speed?
While FRG had some 200km/h workings (BR103 and BR120)
The GDR had only railroad lines capable of 120km/h running, and thus it was the max speed of the StadExpress (equivalent of InterCity, Limited Express)
Although some stock could go 140km/h or evan faster
mental musk
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13INGOQV9T-MHNpw468WGfJPyR-sj3-aIgIl6hboQ5Bo/...
I spy an DR E11 here...
and at laeast 2 other DR classes
strange quiver
how do you define *high speed*?
anything that would mostly run on a dedicated high speed line
so anything 300kph or faster
but it depends on the era and the train itself
this isn't a science, it's more of an art
I just put things where I feel like they most belong
if I didn't, the aussie loco pack would be only mixed-traffic locomotives, since all locomotives in Australia are effectively mixed traffic
mental musk
if I didn't, the aussie loco pack would be only mixed-traffic locomotives, since...
yesterday I had an idea how to spice up the gameplay
In the arctic climate make only the locos with coach heating capable of pulling passenger cars
You can also add an generator van, for operation with coaches and non-heating locos, although these take up platform space...
strange quiver
yesterday I had an idea how to spice up the gameplay
In the arctic climate make...
it's something I've thought about, but it'd just be too annoying tbh
at least I wouldn't find it fun, and I wouldn't know how to code it anyway
mental musk
it's something I've thought about, but it'd just be too annoying tbh
and likely AIs are not intelligent enough to use it...
So it's an ||bad feature!||
the E95 is an stricly goodstrain loco
and the E94 technically is an goodstrain loco, but also did some passenger workings
the BR250 - it can be described both ans an hevy duty mixed traffic loco or as an goodstrain loco
it worke with stadexpress
but the numer of BR250s passenger workings rapidly decreased after larger amounts of the BR243 apeared
strange quiver
yh, it's why I often treat the traffic type as a guide
haughty pollen
yesterday I had an idea how to spice up the gameplay
In the arctic climate make...
Old NARS had a feature like this, HEP, and it was annoying
severe elbow
fuck it, sure, why not
Isn’t that an xpt coach?
strange quiver
Isn’t that an xpt coach?
yep
severe elbow
Damn
strange quiver
apparently it had an issue, and they just wacked it on the next freight train, but it's still a weird photo
red stump
Old NARS had a feature like this, HEP, and it was annoying
PKP set does this the right way I think and it's quite nice
mental musk
PKP set does this the right way I think and it's quite nice
indeed - that's the MOD from which I got the idea
mellow loom
Blue Pullman?
mental musk
Blue Pullman?
nope, I was thinking likely about 89
severe elbow
ah yes the southend pier railway
vestal minnow
spice kernel
PKP set does this the right way I think and it's quite nice
some of the values are wrong tho but thats details
mental musk
some of the values are wrong tho but thats details
values differring from real live may be an subject to game balance
To make sure the set does not contain useless trains
mental musk
but maybe it is best to simply move tham to an seprate grf archive?
An addon MOD
severe elbow
a parameter to enable/disable them would be better no?
mental musk
hmmmmmm
vestal minnow
especially in eyecandy games
What do you mean by useless train?
mental musk
things not practical ingame
severe elbow
yea
strange quiver
a parameter to enable/disable them would be better no?
Tbh I just make them automatically appear on your trains
E.g. The Aurora passenger cars automatically generate a power van and dining car
mental musk
Revolution amoung train configurations!
mental musk
yes, i know
just anytime I see the word Aurora/Avrora I think about that ship
funny
it's just like with Stefan Batory
(there were 2 polish transatlantic liners of that name!)
mellow loom
Tbh I just make them automatically appear on your trains
The nice thing about this is that they can just be eyecandy too - the underlying vehicle stays the same and so doesn't change gameplay
mellow loom
What do you mean by useless train?
Things like these: they either don't carry cargo at all, or carry a very small amount that isn't really sensible to use in game
They exist only to add realism to a game if you're playing with a "model train set" style and want eg departmental vehicles running round on your network, or to put wagons in a yard/siding without a locomotive
mental musk
Things like these: they either don't carry cargo at all, or carry a very small a...
vehicles carrying smol amount of cargo can be practical
For delivering technical supply in FIRS to primery industries
let's say that once le'ts say half year an big train drops off some large amount of supplys on an transfer station
And regularry draisines drive the supplies to a couple mines from the transfer station
mellow loom
Sure, and they can be used - but they're probably not going to be a good choice compared to other units
And things like eg the Track Maintenance variants of the MPV here carry no cargo at all, so they're only useful as eyecandy
mental musk
Another thing to consider in train set is vehicle length...
I don't think it's an good idea to scale all vehicles to the same scale?
mental musk
also if I see correctly some drawers tend to reserve 2 collumns of pixels in side view for buffers?
mental musk
I genuenly think about scaling BR250, BR130, E94 as 8/8 and BR243, E11, V100 as 6/8
steep echo
also if I see correctly some drawers tend to reserve 2 collumns of pixels in sid...
Buffers seem to be done in one of two ways
mental musk
V180? V200 - difficult question....
steep echo
Either they overlap or don’t
mental musk
is drawing 10/8 for extra long coaches an good idea?
signal gate
no
steep echo
10/8 is about as long as you want to go
steep echo
My set had 11/8 but i decided it looked too janky
signal gate
above 8/8 you have to arse around with articulated vehicles
which is fashionable, but a bad idea
mental musk
isn't it more difficult to cope with coaches of odd lengths?
mental musk
above 8/8 you have to arse around with articulated vehicles
GETS would greatly benefit from extra diagonal views.
Like Timberwolfs train set
mental musk
I am planning an DR (DDR) set
mental musk
this is 16m IRL
how do You make it have more realistic proportions than opengfx?
mellow loom
Another thing to consider in train set is vehicle length...
Most sets do consider that. BRTrains uses ~24m+ as 8/8, for example, and tries to scale down from that (so ~12m is 4/8, ~16m is 5/8, ~20m is 6/8)
However because of the isometric nature of OpenTTD, it's not really sensible to reduce length linearly because anything below 4/8 starts to look wrong for most full height vehicles. You can get away with 3/8 for tenders and low wagons, but for full height there's a practical limit at around 4/8. So eg the Class 08 shunters are 9m long and should be 3/8 but are drawn and coded as 4/8
And then some locomotives which should be shorter are set up as 8/8 for the purposes of things like push/pull (because push/pull is janky if you use different length vehicles) or just because some shapes are hard to draw at the "correct" scale at 1x because you don't have enough pixels and they start looking distorted. MU's are a lot easier so most of those are correctly scaled
mental musk
scould I start with locos or coaches?
steep echo
Coaches are easier
mental musk
I am gonna put goods rolling stock for later
Also schould I make IRL liveries, company colorus or both?
steep echo
Both isn’t harder than either really
mellow loom
Modern MUs and coaches are generally the easiest to draw, but you can end up with a set that's very skewed towards modern units. Personally I'd suggest planning out your basic "gameplay progression" units
Eg in your start year, what units will you have to ensure the player can make local/express passenger trains and carry all types of goods? Then every ~30 years, what will you replace them with that will make sense for gameplay?
Plan that out from eg 1850 to 2025 and draw them first, then you can flesh it out with extra units
steep echo
I am gonna put goods rolling stock for *later*
Also schould I make IRL liveries...
If you’re interested you could make stuff as part of my set
mellow loom
CC is much faster, IRL liveries aren't necessarily any harder to draw but it takes more time simply because you're drawing more stuff
mental musk
Both isn’t harder than either really
1945-1994 or so 🙂
mental musk
CC is much faster, IRL liveries aren't necessarily any harder to draw but it tak...
can I use the change colour option in paint.net?
mellow loom
When you start drawing real world liveries you end up with spritesheets that look like this for one unit... rather than just 1-4 rows per unit
mental musk
thankfully in that time period there was not that many liveries
steep echo
When you start drawing real world liveries you end up with spritesheets that loo...
It is simpler with recolour
mellow loom
It is simpler with recolour
If the real world liveries happen to be the same basic design in different colours, but not if you have to draw the entire livery each time
steep echo
If the real world liveries happen to be the same basic design in different colou...
Even in that case
When i get on my PC I’ll show you how i do things
It is a lot easier
these are the livery options for all MY based locos
this is the vehicle sprite
it is only drawn once
if i change one pixel that pixel will change on all of those trains
liveries are just a layer
these are the liveries for the first 2 trains in the first image
mental musk
wait an moment - what editor do You use?
mental musk
drawing shading gonna be pain in the ass...
steep echo
our code reads the layers and generates sprites based on the shading of the blue vehicle and the not shaded livery layers
mental musk
BTW
DR (railroads of GDR) tested Nohab loco, but didn't bought it
mental musk
great!
signal gate
how do You make it have more realistic proportions than opengfx?
I draw how we think the vehicle looks, not how long it is IRL
IRL class 73 reads as 'long' (or 'medium')
class 74 reads as 'short'
IRL only 1m different
mental musk
IRL class 73 reads as 'long' (or 'medium')
The one in the distance (the blue one) has an reather unique livery...
signal gate
yes
mellow loom
I draw how we think the vehicle looks, not how long it is IRL
Yeah there are definitely some units where real feels wrong
On several occasions people have questioned why I draw sub-surface tube stock “so big”, in reality it’s actually pretty much the same loading gauge as the rest of the UK network (minus any OHLE/pantograph)
Its not quite as tall but less than 0.5px difference at 1x zoom
mental musk
Yeah there are definitely some units where real feels wrong
On several occasion...
maybe some people mistook sub surface stock and deep line stock?
London subway has lines of 2 diffrent loading gauges, just as Berlin
mellow loom
maybe some people mistook sub surface stock and deep line stock?
London subway ...
They knew which they were talking about, they were just expecting the subsurface stock to be more like halfway between the deep level stock and national rail
signal gate
we know what we know
earnest meadow
Yeah there are definitely some units where real feels wrong
On several occasion...
and sometimes wider too
strange quiver
working on the North American Rapid Transit pack again, and somehow I've busted the code for the 7/8 EMUs and now they don't align properly
tested everything I can think of, including re-using the old alignment, and nothing works so aaaaa
if anyone else has any ideas, lmk, it might just be a case where I need a different alignment template for the rear vehicle, but I didn't use them before and it worked?
either way, I'm gonna work on the 8/8 vehicles instead because this is doing my head in
using the old code it works perfectly >://///
what on earth have I broken
sure, why not, apparently using the 8 template for EMUs actually works
there's a damn good reason I didn't go into software development
strange quiver
R11 updated and it looks a lot better
I'm gonna try and go through and re-code and update GNARTS to be on par with my other sets, since its a bit outdated
also I've learnt how to work with stainless steel sprites more so the brightliners can look pretty :3
earnest meadow
working on the North American Rapid Transit pack again, and somehow I've busted ...
ooh you're making the new SEPTA cars
finite mountain
Since you're working on GNARTS again, do you plan on making the rubber tire trains from Montreal? Would be a unique and interesting addition
strange quiver
Since you're working on GNARTS again, do you plan on making the rubber tire trai...
Yee, theyre on the list
strange quiver
idk if anyone's done a rubber tyred track set though
could just do them as a conventional third rail train
vestal minnow
Wondering if there is a list of trains to include for this set?
vestal minnow
Can you pin this if you haven’t already?
strange quiver
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ARb0h0whRNbf8zt6wdXY-O1Pa2zIgEjDsbNkuVG6VGE/...
strange quiver
nw
haughty pollen
idk if anyone's done a rubber tyred track set though
JP+ will have rubber tyred metros, would be nice to have some compatibility there
strange quiver
JP+ will have rubber tyred metros, would be nice to have some compatibility ther...
oh perfect then
do you know what the track type label will be? I'll use the same one
strange quiver
perfect, thanks
strange quiver
Toronto G-series updated and re-coded :3
tbh one thing I need to do when I loop through is to add more ficitional liveries, I'm just bad with thinking of some
vestal minnow
BC Transit, Translink? Imagine if Vancouver adopted these subway coaches instead of the skytrain
strange quiver
maybe, although those are very "of their time" liveries
so they wouldn't suit a train from the 1950s
strange quiver
well the base livery is already like that
vestal minnow
This is a preserved interurban at an exhibit
BC Hydro took over the buses in the late 50s after interurbans were closed in 1958, they had a green and blue livery
vestal minnow
BC Hydro also had a small fleet of freight locomotives, eventually passed on to SRY
Aka Southern Railway of BC
strange quiver
yee, I saw that
but it's a pretty basic livery anyway, and it's too similar to the original 50s TTC scheme
strange quiver
http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/electric/BCH_Carrall_Street.htm
remind me to add a livery for them when I do steeplecabs :3
also, liveries done
vestal minnow
Ok
strange quiver
those BC Hydro schemes work
also they let you do something akin to a knock off british rail, just without the yellow front
vestal minnow
Without yellow front?
strange quiver
Without yellow front?
BR stuff normally had yellow on the front of the train to increase visibility
it's why all the trains in Iron horse have it
vestal minnow
Right
No wonder all the uk sets have the yellow front
Never visited before so can't confirm myself
strange quiver
yee, it's one of the defining features of UK railways
like how US locomotives are massive
or how Australia has 3 (arguably 4) rail gauges
vestal minnow
or how Australia has 3 (arguably 4) rail gauges
I saw that
For some reason my tv channels are all showing Australian train documentaries
I see so many buildings and landscapes in the auz sets as well as your trains
strange quiver
For some reason my tv channels are all showing Australian train documentaries
Australian cultural victory >:3333
tbf our railways are really interesting
vestal minnow
Yes
strange quiver
although I might be biased in that regard
I don't enjoy drawing all the funky weird rebuilds though
mental musk
BC Hydro/BC Electric?
there was an period whan schielsa water pipelines autohority acquire trains...
It was quite an scandal, as thay were ment to do to Schielsan Railways (KŚ)
Schielsa water pipelines autohority didn't operate tham, thay stood on sidetracks for long years, but thankfully (some of tham) were bought up by SKPL and now operate!
mental musk
For some reason my tv channels are all showing Australian train documentaries
Down the line?
Good show, watched it as an child!
vestal minnow
I don't enjoy drawing all the funky weird rebuilds though
Yeah I get that from all the possible variant shapes
vestal minnow
*Down the line*?
Good show, watched it as an child!
Might trains, Great Australian railway journeys and epic train journeys
So many train documentaries about Australia these days on my local channels
vestal minnow
It was quite an scandal, as thay were ment to do to Schielsan Railways (KŚ)
Sch...
Which country is this?
mental musk
Which country is this?
Poland
such absurd things can happen only in Poland ||or russia||
vestal minnow
Oh ok
strange quiver
oh btw, any requests for what subway train to update next? I'm stumped
strange quiver
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ARb0h0whRNbf8zt6wdXY-O1Pa2zIgEjDsbNkuVG6VGE/...
preference is obviously given to anything orange on the list, since that was in the last version of the set and I already have a sprite for it
severe elbow
It’s being weird for me on mobile, have you done the Cleveland units yet?
strange quiver
It’s being weird for me on mobile, have you done the Cleveland units yet?
the red line cars?
no, but they're on the list, but I'll save them for when I do the other OHLE Subway cars
strange quiver
yee, right now I'm prioritising updating old stuff, otherwise I'll get distracted 😦
vestal minnow
Do you have the mk1? Also on my phone so the doc doesn’t load well
strange quiver
Do you have the mk1? Also on my phone so the doc doesn’t load well
Mk1 what?
vestal minnow
Mk1 train used in the Vancouver skytrain or the recently closed Scarborough people mover
strange quiver
ooooh, they're on the list, but again, they're a low priority atm
strange quiver
you know what my research is like, of course they are :3
there's even weird prototypes on the list too
severe elbow
I would say R44/R46 cause I love them but idk if they are on the list
And the slant ones I always forget the number of
strange quiver
And the slant ones I always forget the number of
The R40s
but sure, I'll do them after I've finished working on this video
strange quiver
there's even weird prototypes on the list too
also I need to do the weird Advanced Concept train
god I love this era of American Transit design
return to the great society 😦
but I have to wait till I do the legacy trains aaa
mental musk
looks really nice!
there was also something called state of the art railcar or something
strange quiver
looks really nice!
there was also something called *state of the art railcar* or...
yee, the SOAC
that's on the list
but this was a follow up to it
strange quiver
gotta touch up the windows, but these R40 sprites look solid to me
liveries can be tomorrow nights job
severe elbow
R40 ❤️
strange quiver
tbh, NYC subway cars suck because they're liveries are so basic
so fuck it, we doing JR liveries, since they tend to work on them too
mental musk
JR also operates an f-lot of stainless steel coaches
just with some trim painted in diffrent colours
(to match the line/service an MU operates on)
haughty pollen
tbh, NYC subway cars suck because they're liveries are so basic
Do a graffiti livery 😛
mental musk
My dear Emperor, please mind that this is an family friendly computer game
cold scarab
lolz
haughty pollen
There was one for Cities Skylines that I enjoyed lol
but I realise it probably wouldn't look good in pixel form
strange quiver
(to match the line/service an MU operates on)
yee, that's what I'm copying :3
strange quiver
Do a graffiti livery 😛
I would if I had the skills 😦
strange quiver
yh, but it'd be cool :3
R40s done
now you can make your weird Tokyo-New York Hybrid
I'll probably do this as standard for the NYC trains going forward
might also smash out the R44 while I'm at it too tbh
haughty pollen
These are real nice
strange quiver
thanks, I'm really happy with how they turned out
the contrast between my early and recent stuff is stark
mental musk
now you can make your weird Tokyo-New York Hybrid
Tokyo itself is like NY but turned up to 11!
strange quiver
yh, but NYC has cooler subway cars :3
also if anyone wants a go, here's the grf
not backwars compatible with the last version, and still missing a lot of content
but the ids shouldn't change
mental musk
indeed, it does look strange...
I need to keep on searching for prototypes and proporsals
mental musk
Which ones
what do You mean?
oblique bone
what s bahn models
mental musk
S-bahns are overground commuter railroads
Schnellstadtbahn - Municical express railway
mental musk
all these MUs can be considered S-bahns, although some may have operated on other services too
also E11, E42 and BR243 were used in loco-hueled commuter trains
Lipzig
@oblique bone
oblique bone
Alrightt
mental musk
Mybe You will help me with drawing?
I plan to start drawing there in a couple of weeks
severe elbow
does look french tbf
mental musk
export model for equador
severe elbow
i was going to mention this
mental musk
I LOVE IT
strange quiver
R44's done :3
would have been done sooner, but women kept bothering me >:/
Might do the R32s next tbh
crystal crag
would have been done sooner, but *women* kept bothering me >:/
bothers you >:3
Looking great though!
Have you considered running noises for your sets?
strange quiver
_bothers you >:3_
://////////
strange quiver
Looking great though!
thanks :3
strange quiver
Have you considered running noises for your sets?
not really, but I could do them at some point
crystal crag
nods
strange quiver
:333
severe elbow
R44's done :3
Yay
mental musk
R44's done :3
the one with blue stripe looks a-lot like budd m2 metropolitan!
severe elbow
the one with blue stripe looks a-lot like budd m2 metropolitan!
M2s only ever wore a red stripe btw
You are thinking of m1s and m3s
strange quiver
got back from a doctors appointment and holy hell hormone treatments are expensive
now I've gotta book bloodwork and aaaa
gonna draw the R32s so I don't have to think about it :3
turbid bronze
Love spending my money on pharmaceuticals every month
strange quiver
Love spending my money on pharmaceuticals every month
yeah...
I have to book in a $350 appointment in the next two weeks which isn't fun
and then it's a $50 on going cost for basically the next 10 years
I love my weird goober brain aaaaaaaaa
turbid bronze
Mine comes out to about $80/$90 a month because fuck me I guess
strange quiver
Mine comes out to about $80/$90 a month because fuck me I guess
well I'm hoping you can afford it, because yh, fuck that
tbh $50 a month is just the start, I've got a few things I need to get but aaaaa
we'll see how much it comes out to
strange quiver
yeah, it's money you could spend on other things
like rent
or drugs?
idk what you guys do out west
turbid bronze
get on the googs m8
strange quiver
get on the googs m8
of course
turbid bronze
I don’t get on the googs anymore, I’m old. Once you turn 30 you wanna be home and in bed by 9pm.
strange quiver
actually I'm glad I don't drink or smoke, because the meds I'll be going on don't work as well if you do aaa
strange quiver
I don’t get on the googs anymore, I’m old. Once you turn 30 you wanna be home an...
I'm 23 and I'm already like that 😦
legit I crash at like 9:30 on days I work
strange quiver
new vs old R32
that extra bit of noise on the sprite really makes it look more interesting
vestal minnow
Where did these trains serve irl?
wind valley
Where did these trains serve irl?
new york city
vestal minnow
Ok
strange quiver
R32s done :3
again, would have been done sooner, but Gay people keep bothering me
one group would leave and then 30 minutes later another one showed up 😦
strange quiver
I think the R16 and R27s are next
since they're very similar, and I can do them together
vestal minnow
Watched a rail documentary about taking the xpt from Newcastle to Brisbane
Recognize so many buildings and terminals from Garry’s sets as well as your trains
Especially in Newcastle
strange quiver
yeah, Garry's included a lot of local landmarks in his objects sets :3
NYC R16s and R27s done :3
earnest meadow
NYC R16s and R27s done :3
R16s are single units and R27s are married pairs fyi
strange quiver
R16s are single units and R27s are married pairs fyi
I know, that's how they're coded :3
strange quiver
that one I'm not doing since it's sprite would basiclaly be the same as the R32
the only differences would be so minor it'd be pointless
severe elbow
NYC R16s and R27s done :3
I like the keikyu looking livery lol
strange quiver
I like the keikyu looking livery lol
it goes hard tbh
severe elbow
Does
Could really make multiple private suburban/metro networks and they through run
Would really work with all those liveries
strange quiver
well that's the idea...
you should be able to do the IRL liveries, while still having the leeway to do fun stuff
severe elbow
Yea
strange quiver
aaa
also, re-wrote the script on the planning reforms in NSW, which was annoying
but now I'm watching the mardi-gras parade, and while I do
anyone go any more subway car reccomendations?
or elevated car
strange quiver
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ARb0h0whRNbf8zt6wdXY-O1Pa2zIgEjDsbNkuVG6VGE/...
anything marked in Orange is my priority btw
severe elbow
So hard to navigate on mobile
strange quiver
yeah... it do be like that :/
strange quiver
tbh the Budd UTVs are the best example of the relation between Japanese and American train design
Slap a pantograph on one of these and it'd fit right in Tokyo tbh
severe elbow
Which city?
strange quiver
Which city?
They were used in Baltimore and Miami
severe elbow
ah right
strange quiver
LA tried to order some too, but Budd shut down before they could order them
severe elbow
It’s still a shock to me that Miami has a metro
strange quiver
tbh... I wonder if Budd sent LA to Comeng in Australia too
severe elbow
I just never thought it did for ages
strange quiver
tbh... I wonder if Budd sent LA to Comeng in Australia too
that seems to be what they did when people came to them for orders when they shut down
haughty pollen
I didn't even know Baltimore had a metro
strange quiver
It’s still a shock to me that Miami has a metro
yeah, it's not one of the cities you'd expect
strange quiver
I didn't even know Baltimore had a metro
it's not really a metro, it's basically just one line
severe elbow
I didn’t think la had one either for ages
mental musk
budd also sold licence of the stainless technology to spain
strange quiver
budd also sold licence of the stainless technology to spain
yee, that license got around :3
mental musk
front end is vastly diffrent...
severe elbow
Tbf they don’t look too different
Could be more different
I’d love to do a Japanese private railway thing with loads of different usa subway/metro units
Would be cool
strange quiver
Not here unfortunately
Tbf Comeng tried, NZR just wasnt interested
strange quiver
Then again we don’t really need it due to our climate
Tbf stainless steel is just superior in every climate
Its why DMUs lkke the Silver Ferns and those Hitachi loco hauled cars that I can't remember the name of were stainless steel
dim pulsar
wait - there are trains of other materials?
severe elbow
Its why DMUs lkke the Silver Ferns and those Hitachi loco hauled cars that I can...
silver star
those coaches now run between singapore and bangkok
there was only 31 built
mental musk
those coaches now run between singapore and bangkok
wait
there is or isn't an international train service to singapore?
dim pulsar
Thailand today is "world railway museum"
mental musk
what do you mean?
severe elbow
loads of old trains from other countries
dim pulsar
They have old rolling stocks from at least US, Japan, and there are also newer locomotives from China
severe elbow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_and_Oriental_Express
i also need to draw these for my set
severe elbow
wait
there is or isn't an international train service to singapore?
there is daily international service
mental musk
there is daily international service
one seat ride or an train change at the boarder?
strange quiver
They have old rolling stocks from at least US, Japan, and there are also newer l...
and it sucks because I've got a friend there right now
and she won't get my photos >:/
soft stump
one seat ride or an train change at the boarder?
I'm guessing there is a train change because the bridge isn't electrified
severe elbow
seeing how good the SMRT is, you would think the international rail connection is at least electrified
soft stump
It's peculiar, seems like the electrification ends in the Malaysian side just at the point where the bridge starts
It also doesn't connect to anything on the signapore side
strange quiver
knowing what Singapores and Malaysia's relationship is like, it's probably some really pedantic reason
or one trying to spite the other
unkempt oxide
Thailand today is "world railway museum"
And somewhere there is probably at least 1 train set that our transport museum would like to bring back. A Hungarian bus manufacturer collaborated with a Hungarian railway manufacturer, and unfortunately all of the examples were exported.
haughty pollen
Ikarus Pacer!
unkempt oxide
I'm so sorry, I really missed it. It's probably in Malaysia, not Thailand.
steep echo
And somewhere there is probably at least 1 train set that our transport museum w...
I wanna make this now
strange quiver
And somewhere there is probably at least 1 train set that our transport museum w...
Pacers are like Crabs
just like how everything evolves into crabs, all railways eventually propose/build a pacer
signal gate
also the Ford Transit is a universal platonic form
strange quiver
also the Ford Transit is a universal platonic form
oh god no
strange quiver
nono
signal gate
I drive a Transit 😛
strange quiver
a loving god would not allow the Ford Transit Pacer
strange quiver
I drive a Transit 😛
hopefully on the road
unkempt oxide
Ikarus Pacer!
There was something like that. 😄
vestal minnow
In Canada, pickups are commonly repurposed for rail use, but never for passengers
strange quiver
possibly should have been 'extra gronks' in Horse 😛
can always still add them...
also, not sure how I feel about this Budd UTV re-work
the cab is kinda hard to do
maybe moving the lights and adding some highlights near the roof?
polar sparrow
there's a rail mog in HEQS
HEQS could use a modified Transit 🙂
mental musk
railway replacement microbus?
nova mauve
Hi, found this on insta moment ago, thought it may be of interest. No idea if it actually exists irl btw, i seen just the model before.
steep echo
Hi, found this on insta moment ago, thought it may be of interest. No idea if it...
im guessing it is polish? mostly based on the music tbh
@mental musk might know
nova mauve
dont know, the account is named hanke.helmut on instagram, so im guessing german
idk if i should post the reel here, so im not gonna do that, there seems to be some information thou.
steep echo
no harm would come from posting
nova mauve
steep echo
strange quiver
Budd UTVs done :3
severe elbow
Interesting things those
mental musk
what does UTV mean?
U.... Transit vehicle?
steep echo
what does UTV mean?
U.... Transit vehicle?
Urban maybe
steep echo
Aa
mental musk
strange quiver
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRM_BDfw-eiiWFZN8-TrmLMD-mD...
Evie :3
dim pulsar
Just saw some videos, Ragin is such a good and handsome YouTuber
strange quiver
Just saw some videos, Ragin is such a good and handsome YouTuber
Thanks
Would be a better youtuber if I posted more tho
vestal minnow
ABB promotional video for their Sprintor aimed at the Canadian market
Based on the Swedish X2
strange quiver
Oooh, interesting...
strange quiver
annoyingly they don't seem to show a canadian specific version
so it's just gonna be the normal X2 then
mental musk
thay also were planning an version for Poland (Fala - Wave)
I love old propaganda newsreels
earnest meadow
Budd UTVs done :3
3rd and 4th sprites give massive CTA 2400 vibes
1st: miami
2nd: baltimore
3rd: SCRTD/LA
4th: ??
5th: SEPTA?
6th: SEPTA?
strange quiver
1st: miami
2nd: baltimore
3rd: SCRTD/LA
4th: ??
5th: SEPTA?
6th: SEPTA?
- Miami
- Baltimore
- SCTD
- LA Metro
- SEPTA
- SEPTA
earnest meadow
i see
strange quiver
you were close :3
earnest meadow
strange quiver
only reason it has the SEPTA liveries is because originally I combined the broad street line trains with the UTV because they're somewhat similar
but now I'm splitting them and doing the B-4 stock separatley
strange quiver
yee, I need to do them aaa
strange quiver
NYC Arnines done :3
Also this livery was done hte same way as the SRA livery from NSW, so you can do a Candy Arnine if you want
strange quiver
BRT Q-Type elevated cars done :3
mental musk
NYC Arnines done :3
why it looks like prewar paris metropolitan coaches?
strange quiver
probably just the liveries
strange quiver
random question, but does anyone know how long each segment of the CRT 5000 series cars are?
I can't find a length, and I can't find a photo of them next to anything else
I think they're around 16m long per segment?
untold viper
strange quiver
yh, but it doesn't specify per car, or for the total train
both whole train and per car are both too short
88ft is ~26m, and that'd be 8m per car, which it can't be
since the train is about 2.7m wide, and it's more than 3x its length
strange quiver
CRTC 5000 series done
frosty sand
Looks great! I had no idea they had an articulated subway car. 🙂
strange quiver
yeah, it was something they experimented with a bit around WW2
the NYC subway alone had 4 different articulated cars
only the triplex made it to proper production though
mental musk
random question, but does anyone know how long each segment of the CRT 5000 seri...
first time seing simens type electric reciver in american use!
strange quiver
first time seing simens type electric reciver in american use!
did they have siemens electric equipment in them?
strange quiver
oh, strange
mental musk
technically this type is (just as trollay poles and 3rd rail skis) NOT an pantograph becouse it does not flod like scissors
Pantograph-type recivers have to have an scissor type meccanism
there are diffrent pantographs - 4 arm, 2 arm, single arm and evan more...
vestal minnow
The new Mark V trainsets have began their testing on skytrain tracks earlier this week in Vancouver
vestal minnow
Basically they are currently being run down the tracks during service hours, stopping at stations and opening doors to evaluate their performance
However their doors are blocked off to prevent people from boarding
strange quiver
yee, it's pretty universal
strange quiver
Chicago 6000/1-50 Series cars done :3
strange pivot
However their doors are blocked off to prevent people from boarding
In Melbourne they did this but with printed signs saying ‘test train do not board’, nothing to stop anyone getting on
mental musk
In Melbourne they did this but with printed signs saying ‘test train do not boar...
not evan the trains crew?
I suppose that it was an unmanned train operating on an auto pilot?
strange pivot
Well it was just the one driver, but nothing else to stop them
And no, they don’t operate on auto pilot, nothing in Melbourne does
mental musk
Well it was just the one driver, but nothing else to stop them
station workers?
strange pivot
Well yeah but theyre not usually at platforms, they would be able to see CCTV tho
vestal minnow
It looks so comfortable travelling on the Canadian from Vancouver to Toronto
Built so many of these via trainsets in openttd
strange quiver
I'll have to do it someday 😦
Once I've done the rapid transit stuff I'm going to focus more on the North American locomotive and trainset
glossy compass
95 h???
I could understand 76 h based on the longest sleeper train in Europe but 95 is ridiculous
mental musk
canada is more like russia, but rich
vestal minnow
Canada is huge, the Canadian covers more than 4000 km in one direction
The line is also subject to heavy delays due to passenger trains requiring to wait in sidings for freight trains to pass
frigid drum
166h for Moscow-Vladivostok 🥲
strange quiver
166h for Moscow-Vladivostok 🥲
I'd go feral for that
the trans-siberian is one of my special interests
I just don't think I'd be allowed in russia 😦
frigid drum
Why do you think so?
turbid bronze
yeah they'd probably drag me off into some dark room somewhere and beat me half to death lmao
strange quiver
yeah they'd probably drag me off into some dark room somewhere and beat me half ...
the FSB or ASIO?
I feel like either would do that tbh
frigid drum
Its not like that lmao
You should be completely fine
turbid bronze
lmaooo
nah asio already know about me
(I applied for a job with them and ASD once)
strange quiver
nah asio already know about me
fair fair
ASIO knows about me, but for different reasons...
strange quiver
Its not like that lmao
You should be completely fine
I'd rather be safe than sorry
turbid bronze
But yeah fuck me if I ever travelled to Russia or China I'd have no hope in hell of ever getting another security clearance again. Russia's proclivity for beating up poofters not withstanding 🤣.
strange quiver
and I'd rather not get arrested and only be freed in a prisoner swap for "vlad the puppy murderer"
strange quiver
But yeah fuck me if I ever travelled to Russia or China I'd have no hope in hell...
yeah true
tbf my career goals are only really in planning, but I could imagine it'd cause some issues
I wanna go to china and see the cool fast trains tho 😦
frigid drum
It's sad that you think Russia is like that, but oh well
turbid bronze
Well I've heard too many stories of friends of friends trans friends in russia disappearing this last decade or so, so uhhh, yeah not taking my chances
I'd love to do a tour across China doing landscape photography. but hey, if the US starts a trade war with us and we cozy up to China the security clearance implications might clear up for a bit 😄
strange quiver
It's sad that you think Russia is like that, but oh well
tbf I'm basing that off the anti-LGBT laws that russia has passed, and the queer people I've spoken to who've been there
it's a country I'd love to visit, but it just isn't safe for someone like me
strange quiver
I'd love to do a tour across China doing landscape photography. but hey, if the ...
maybe, we'll see
politics is so fun, I just wanna travel and see cool trains 😦
dim pulsar
In China it’s fine, in fact the local perspective around these things are more important than the government in this case. So places like Shanghai would be much more “open” than rural areas
I know much these persons, never had they been to jail. For foreigners, usually it is “finer”. You need to worry more about lack of English signs…
strange quiver
yeah, tbf china I'm less worried about
but we'll see, china isn't first on my overseas visit list anyway
dim pulsar
Go to elsewhere, you would rather need to stopover at Singapore, China, or… Middle East
turbid bronze
Yeah China is more or less fine for LGBT people.
crystal crag
the trans-siberian is one of my special interests
For the longest time I've wanted to do a long holiday where I just take the train from where I live to Russia then trans Siberian to Vladivostok then across the sea to Japan then take the sleeper train there and spend a bit of time there before flying back home
And then events happened
turbid bronze
I would really really really like it if events would stop happening
crystal crag
I can't believe they're anti LGBT when they've got the Trans Siberian smh
crystal crag
I would really really really like it if *events would stop happening*
May you live in precedented and uneventful times
strange quiver
Go to elsewhere, you would rather need to stopover at Singapore, China, or… Midd...
I do wanna do singapore...
turbid bronze
yeah I'd like my times to be Precedented, please.
strange quiver
For the longest time I've wanted to do a long holiday where I just take the trai...
I love world events 😦
strange quiver
I can't believe they're anti LGBT when they've got the ***Trans*** Siberian smh
trans people should get that train for free tbh
severe elbow
I would rather not have the stopover at LA when going to New Zealand
Going the other way seems much more fun
crystal crag
trans people should get that train for free tbh
Yeah they should give me a free ticket smh
turbid bronze
god damnit are we multiplying
crystal crag
Open Trans Tycoon Deluxe
strange quiver
I would rather not have the stopover at LA when going to New Zealand
yeah...
tbh the US having its "goober moment" right now isn't fun
I wanna go to the US, but iirc they're denying entry to trans people atm?
severe elbow
I’ve never liked the west coast
strange quiver
Yeah they should give me a free ticket smh
gonna cancel russia on twitter for being transphobic smh
crystal crag
I've been to the US once and honestly that's enough for me, I'm more wishing I could get people out
turbid bronze
I wanna go to the US, but iirc they're denying entry to trans people atm?
nah, it's not quite that bad
but texas might get ugly shortly
strange quiver
god damnit are we multiplying
all people who play open source games are queer
thems the rules
turbid bronze
(uglier)
strange quiver
nah, it's not quite that bad
well, I'm gonna wait until I at least try
strange quiver
I've been to the US once and honestly that's enough for me, I'm more wishing I c...
yeah fair :/
crystal crag
all people who play open source games are queer
Given overlap then I suspect we have a decent number of Dutch Queers given how many people here seem to be Dutch
strange quiver
Given overlap then I suspect we have a decent number of Dutch Queers given how m...
tbh I don't know any non-queer people from the netherlands
to my knowledge there are no straight people there
maybe that's why you guys had gay marriage first
severe elbow
Dutch have never been straight
crystal crag
tbh I don't know any non-queer people from the netherlands
I can confirm that there are straight people here but I'm not one of them
mental musk
God, this time somebody OTHER than me started an political offtop!
strange quiver
I can confirm that there are straight people here but I'm not one of them
yh nah, I don't believe you :3
strange quiver
God, this time somebody OTHER than me started an political offtop!
it's my thread, I'm allowed to start offtopic stuff!
crystal crag
That's fair I wouldn't believe me either
signal gate
vestal minnow
This takes about eight days by train, however the Moscow-Pyongyang service is likely not accessible to third country foreigners anymore
frosty sand
Bad use of variants IRL 😛
haughty pollen
Variants for slightly different headlight positions? JP+ Engines has a few of those
strange quiver
Bad use of variants IRL 😛
Yh, I'm not that pedantic :3
severe elbow
Bad use of variants IRL 😛
Those are cool tbf
severe elbow
Variants for slightly different headlight positions? JP+ Engines has a few of th...
EF81-452?
mental musk
the 1st and the 3rd would look EXACTLY THE SAME in 1x pixl sprite form
severe elbow
Ah cool
mental musk
@haughty pollen Wait an moment...
There are no laws regulating the location of headlamps on JR stock?!
I have seen various diffrent configurations...
The headlamps on the roof only were always weird for me...
haughty pollen
Yeah I don't think it's that closely regulated. Older locos generally have the headlights above the cab windows, newer ones have them below. In the case of the EH500 prototype the headlights were too low and would get blocked by snow so the production versions had them higher.
strange quiver
Chicago 2000 series el cars done :3
I'm gonna try and get most of the chicago stuff done this weekend, although I'm a bit ill
so we'll see aa
mental musk
really nice!
are these the ones build with the use of used parts from decommisionned PCC type streetcars?
strange quiver
are these the ones build with the use of used parts from decommisionned PCC type...
no, that was the 6000s
strange quiver
Chicago 6000/1-50 Series cars done :3
these
severe elbow
Chicago 2000 series el cars done :3
Yay
strange quiver
2200 series cars done :3
these were only plain silver IRL, so they get the fictional liveries that the NYC cars got
earnest meadow
2200 series cars done :3
you should try the Cleveland Tokyu cars
mental musk
there is an subway in Cleveland?!
frosty sand
It’s more like an interurban, running 2-car subway equipment. It actually shares track with the light rail and there’s plans to replace both fleets with modern light rail vehicles.
mental musk
its odd but cool
the light rail looks A_LOT like czech Tatra streetcars
strange quiver
you should try the Cleveland Tokyu cars
they're all on the list :3
severe elbow
any silverliners or?
strange quiver
any silverliners or?
they're already in the passenger pack
at least the Silverliners 1-4 are
severe elbow
ah cool
frosty sand
Can’t wait for you to draw the Silverliner VI before it shows up in real life, like you did with the MFL cars 😄
frosty sand
I am eagerly awaiting the design announcement from SEPTA 🙂
frosty sand
Oh yeah, the RFP went out a few months ago
The Silverliner IV is now 50, and they’re doing heritage liveries to commemorate it
(Just stickers on unpainted stainless, but still)
strange quiver
sounds about right
strange quiver
Oh yeah, the RFP went out a few months ago
interesting, well lmk
frosty sand
The main feature is separate doors for high and low platforms, eliminating the need to open and close trapdoors and hopefully allowing smaller crews for more frequent service
strange quiver
I'll keep an eye out to see how it turns out
strange quiver
The main feature is separate doors for high and low platforms, eliminating the n...
ooooh? is there a design in the RFP?
can I have a link?
frosty sand
It seems the document is no longer available, I was reading https://railroad.net/septa-expression-of-interest-silverliner-vi-procurement-t176508.html
strange quiver
it's archived though :3
annoyingly no diagrams or anything
I'll see if I can find anything more...
but we might have to wait until the contract is awarded
knowing SEPTA, it'll probably be awarded late 2025 or early 2026
red stump
Ragin what's the rundown on your trainsets again? Which is the one that leans towards alternate history NA stuff
strange quiver
Ragin what's the rundown on your trainsets again? Which is the one that leans to...
all my north american stuff technically is, since I'm adding unbuilt or fictional designs to plug gaps
I should probably include a way to toggle them off though
red stump
Which set are those in?
strange quiver
there's fictional/unbuilt designs in all my sets
vestal minnow
There is a button to hide certain models from the build menu
strange quiver
There is a button to hide certain models from the build menu
true, but some people might prefer a toggle
at least if you're wanting to do a more realistic multiplayer game
red stump
doing some theory crafting
CNAPS seems to work well with NARS and the add on
NARS engine scale seems off sometimes though
GNARTS works as well in some respects
only problem with a NARS/NARS-AO/GNARTS/CNAPS combo is a lack of freight wagons
wondering if I should just add PGT to round it out
Added PGT
mental musk
the electric loco on the top track sits higher than the coaches...
red stump
that is nars add on I believe
there is some alignment issues but I cant run one without the other as these sets dont have many freight wagons
maybe IH with wagons only would be better
weirdly enough OG NARS seems to align very well
downside is that the add on has all the cool stuff in it, and the NARS carriages mostly suck
IH and CNAPS has a pretty large alignment disparity
seems to work with PGT though??
strange quiver
IH and CNAPS has a pretty large alignment disparity
All my stuff will work with horse when updated
Its just the old version of CNAPs still uses the old nars alignments
When I update it, it'll be fully compatible with iron horses wagons
red stump
Very cool, I will continue this scenario theory crafting when you update haha
strange quiver
It'll probably be a little while tbh
But my Australian stuff is at least more functional
And its compatible with horse too
signal gate
Horse offsets eh 😐
strange quiver
It saves me having to do freight wagons until I'm in the mood for them :3
red stump
I think this will have to be some sort of Auz/UK fictional scenario in this case
severe elbow
you can disable horse engines no?
strange quiver
I think this will have to be some sort of Auz/UK fictional scenario in this case
Yee, that works
strange quiver
you can disable horse engines no?
You can, but I've not done any steam locomotives
severe elbow
i think you can disable only diesel/electric locos
severe elbow
ah
strange quiver
interesting coincidence, apparently I accidently assigned the X2000 the same ID in my north american and Oceanian sets
severe elbow
I mean it’s convenient
severe elbow
The 3rd one almost looks like the Chinese one
mental musk
interesting coincidence, apparently I accidently assigned the X2000 the same ID ...
it really had an livery like that?
BTW: Rohr Turboliner, please
strange quiver
it really had an livery like that?
BTW: Rohr Turboliner, please
all of these liveries are fictional, except the SJ one
Turboliners on the ist tho
mental musk
interesting coincidence, apparently I accidently assigned the X2000 the same ID ...
this must have been an very convincing photoshop?
i like this shape
strange quiver
this must have been an very convincing photoshop?
it is, but that's why I used that livery as a base
vestal minnow
interesting coincidence, apparently I accidently assigned the X2000 the same ID ...
What are the implications of this?
strange quiver
What are the implications of this?
Its just interesting I suppose, nothing else
vestal minnow
Oh ok then. Looking forward to using both sets and making an imaginary, more extensive North American train network
flat hare
do you plan to draw the HHP8?
strange quiver
Yee, of course
Priority for the North American stuff is gonna be passenger stock
So the HHP-8 is on the priority list
mental musk
E60s (diffrent versions) whan?
strange quiver
Also on the list
flat hare
i'm looking forward to it, has a bit of a fucked up shape
strange quiver
Yh, but the HHP-8 was one of my favourites back in MSTS
So its going in
No matter what
strange quiver
I was cool and got gifted the PC version by my grandparents 😎
signal gate
Elon doesn't like trains?
steep echo
not if they carry more than 4 people
severe elbow
He created hyperloop just to make people dislike California high speed rail, just to cancel hyperloop and people buy more Tesla’s because they still don’t like California high speed rail
mental musk
America is an very strange country
severe elbow
Wouldn’t want to live there
dim pulsar
I remember Biden liked trains
mental musk
he used to commute on an train to the parliament
soft stump
he used to commute on an train to the parliament
Really? Seems like that wouldn't be allowed
mental musk
Really? Seems like that wouldn't be allowed
whan he was just an member of parliament, years ago
soft stump
Yeah that makes sense
mental musk
I wonder if many many people have decided NOT to sit next to him in order NOT no start an political scandal?
soft stump
Probably not many, doesn't seem like much of a problem
red stump
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amtrak/comments/1jg22fv/rip_amtrak_19712025/
what's this gotta do with PGT? post things like this in off topic or something
vestal minnow
Sorry just thought you guys would be interested in this. The others seemingly were
strange pivot
well it is a generic train in the thumnail
mental musk
most popular amtrack loco if I am correct...
red stump
Sorry just thought you guys would be interested in this. The others seemingly we...
these are development channels, please just use them for just that
lone patrol
There aren't WMATA trains in this GRF, correct?
strange quiver
There aren't WMATA trains in this GRF, correct?
Not yet, but theyre on the list
mental musk
don't be afreid to say that trains often came delayd 🙂
strange quiver
I'm just too busy working on other things 😦
dim pulsar
Reallife things always first
strange quiver
yeah 😦
although thankfully I'm starting to be able to offload some of my extra work, which gives me more free time
dim pulsar
Meanwhile I am on Inverness to Kyle of Lochalsh train, said to be the UK’s most beautiful train route
strange quiver
I'm jealous 😦
idk what Australia's most beautiful train route would be tbh
all the main lines out of Sydney are beautiful
dim pulsar
Indian Pacific?
dim pulsar
strange quiver
so pretty
strange quiver
aaaaaa
was gonna try and get something done this weekend, but I got stumped
I still need to do the code for freight wagons, but I've gotta sus out how I wanna do it/find good references for it
and I couldn't work out what to draw
hopefully, I can do something over the week, but we'll see
just started HRT so my body/brain are a bit over the place atm
turbid bronze
lol, drink lots of water
strange quiver
lol, drink lots of water
wait is that a thing?
turbid bronze
yes
strange quiver
oh no 😦
strange quiver
and get a decent amount of sleep
I bloody tried, but I woke up at 4:30am this morning
I think the dosing I had was a bit wacky because I got really bad hot flushes last night
turbid bronze
eh, first six months are weird. Just let it happen. Don't overthink it.
follow your docs instructions, let them handle things after each blood test.
strange quiver
follow your docs instructions, let them handle things after each blood test.
that's the plan pretty much
rn they've got me on 1 dose of e gel for the first fortnight, and then bumping it up to 2 doses per day
my t levels were so low that I didn't need blockers, which was nice
turbid bronze
yeah I was the same, I'm on them now as I had it spike up after a few years for some reason
the joke is that spiro is what makes you need to piss all the time but hrt in general makes you need to regardless
strange quiver
yeah I was the same, I'm on them now as I had it spike up after a few years for ...
thats strange. Hopefully I don't have the same issue
the fewer things I need the better, mostly because I'm lazy
strange quiver
the joke is that spiro is what makes you need to piss all the time but hrt in ge...
yh... we'll see if I get that
strange quiver
Get ready for fatigue
what kind of curse did you put on me you creature
I got 10 hours of sleep last night and nearly passed out at work today
also, tangentially, I've had a massive desire to draw NH&H and MBTA stuff, and I have some more free time, so I might draw some stuff over the coming nights
if I can stay awake that is
turbid bronze
what kind of curse did you put on me you creature
mwahahahahahah
you'll get used to it
T is a performance enhancing drug for a reason.
strange quiver
I suppose, but jfc, I didn't expect to get hit with fatigue that bad
also I barely had any T in the first place
turbid bronze
yeah but you still had some
lol
basically yeah, first month or three is interesting, but all the good shit takes years so hurry up and wait I guess
strange quiver
yeah, hopefully I can make it through without passing out
it's just annoying because I do so much, and lacking energy is aaaa
turbid bronze
eh, you'll be fine, just go easy on yourself, get lots of sleep, and drink lots of water.
strange quiver
I'll try :3
but yh, I do wanna try and get back into drawing more, especially now that I have a bit more free time this week
or I could re-do some sprites, I really need to re-do the WA railmotors
mental musk
wasnt the T logotype copied from Stockholm subway (tunnelbana)?
frosty sand
also, tangentially, I've had a massive desire to draw NH&H and MBTA stuff, and I...
Honorary Masshole!
(I am from Massachusetts, that’s what we call ourselves)
strange quiver
Honorary Masshole!
(I am from Massachusetts, that’s what we call ourselves)
you guys can be nice to yourselves 😦
dim pulsar
Boston used to be my favorite city for “no reason”. Like, I had never been into it, all of what I knew was from Internet. But I just felt its name “charming”
strange quiver
Chicago 2600 Series done :3
the 3200/5000 series cars are also very similar
so I should be able to modify these sprites and have those cars done this arvo
only difference is the inclusion of ribbing down the side
strange quiver
3200s done
strange quiver
SEPTA M4 cars done
Comeng Dandenong really fucked these ones up...
also I spotted weird M5 livery, so I'm gonna do that now
mental musk
hmmmm seems to be red on the other side...
Яassians Я coming?
(jokes aside, Я is pronounced as Ya in cyrylic)
strange quiver
livery kinda works? it does get weird when it reverses... but that's someone elses problem
strange quiver
hmmmm seems to be red on the other side...
yee, I assume it is
mental musk
looks like these weird liveries that exist only becouse there was some paint left
the 2nd one existed for very short while, becouse some boss of the depot didnt like it
strange quiver
that boss was wrong then :3
mental musk
We have warrbonnet livery at our depot
dim pulsar
https://wrphoto.eu/data/media/35/19990905_Wegliniec_SU45-154.jpg
Seems Bauhaus or Picasso artwork
strange quiver
CRRC 7000 Series done :3
and that's all the elevated cars done, so now it's just a few subway cars left
strange quiver
thinking of dropping the blank CC1 sprites, and having the default train being the first livery
any thoughts?
frosty sand
I’d support that.
Anyone who doesn’t want a second company colour can just set primary and secondary colours the same and achieve the same result.
I find it difficult to identify trains in the purchase list when they’re 1CC.
strange quiver
Anyone who doesn’t want a second company colour can just set primary and seconda...
yeah, exactly
strange quiver
I find it difficult to identify trains in the purchase list when they’re 1CC.
also it just looks more interesting
downside is most NA stuff has the first livery just being silver...
done it to all the rapid transit stuff, and it's much nicer now
gonna try and do the passenger set over the coming days
signal gate
"badgers"
signal gate
badgers
mental musk
done it to all the rapid transit stuff, and it's much nicer now
red does not work with the roof of these SLCC cars...
strange quiver
red does not work with the roof of these SLCC cars...
yh, but the player can change that :3
signal gate
the badge spec is outrageously simple and you can have my colour chip sprites
unless we hate them
strange quiver
the badge spec is outrageously simple and you can have my colour chip sprites
how's it work? I've not seen a wiki or something on it?
or maybe I'm just dumb at finding the docs
signal gate
all the badges are declared and added to a badge table
then the vehicle has a badges property
badges: ["ih_colour_set_name/company_colour","ih_colour_set_name/complement_company_colour","livery/iron_horse/freight_wagon/random_liveries_complement_company_colour","ih_vehicle_family/express_car","ih_wagon_length/a"];
badges can have an optional sprite, shown in buy menu
badges can have an optional name shown as buy menu extra text
there's a has_badge() nml var for us in switches
pretty much it
super simple
strange quiver
oooooh fair
I might give it a go in a bit then...
there's a way for the player to turn them off though?
signal gate
TBC, the UI stuff is still unfinished
strange quiver
TBC, the UI stuff is still unfinished
fair fair then
also, where's the source for the Iron Horse badges? I'm looking on github and can't find them
signal gate
badgers branch
strange quiver
badgers branch
link? I can't find it
strange quiver
https://github.com/andythenorth/iron-horse/tree/badgers
easy, thanks
strange quiver
I built my own https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/359
how do I use that with the latest version on nmlc?
it's just a patch file
strange quiver
I do 😦
strange quiver
Friends have been posting about the paris metro and aaaa
Desire to draw european metro stuff is growing, but I wanna do more NA stuff first :(((
mental musk
Metrovagonmash 81-717/714?
strange quiver
probably not
gonna do maybe 1-2 paris metro trains first
although if I do the rubber tired ones, I should see what JP+ has planned for theirs first...
dim pulsar
Too heavy workload… for a game
strange quiver
Too heavy workload… for a game
I know I know
that's why I'm only gonna do 1-2, just to spice things up
I'm not gonna dedicate myself to a full european set for years
mental musk
strange quiver
Ooooh, that's cool
mental musk
hmmmmm I guess that this panto has an very wide upper ski?
strange pivot
https://www.railwayage.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/GTXI5B_WoAAjpW1.jpg
top right reminds me of X'Trapolis 2.0
also there should be a coupler cover, but it's being towed
strange pivot
yeah it's one of the worst looking trains I've seen
something that could be added to PGT in the future maybe?
mental musk
meybe it would look better in pixel form
strange pivot
yeah
irl they're supposed to enter service late 2026 - 2027, there's only currently 2 sets
judging by how other trains enter service
untold viper
top right reminds me of X'Trapolis 2.0
They look a lot nicer with the nose covered IMO
untold viper
I just wish they were killing off the X'Traps instead of Comengs
mental musk
They look a lot nicer with the nose covered IMO
just as ED161