Ragins Train Sets

[strange quiver]

do it :3

[vestal minnow]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DDXixHVNEeD/?igsh=MTFxc2RvMWlvcHV2dw==

New via rail fleet?

[strange quiver]

Ooooh, seemingly

[strange quiver]

fuck you makes an ALCO/GE/EMD hybrid locomotive

this cursed thing is going in the set btw

[strange pivot]

Deformed x class

[strange quiver]

yeah, it's pretty much an X class but built out of a 40 class

but with GE traction motors

[mental musk]

Average locomotive in Cuba or North Korea be like

[vestal minnow]

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/via-rail-canada-seeks-bids-for-new-long-distance-trainsets/

[mental musk]

every order for true, legitmate long-distance rolling stock, not dolled up commuter MU is good news!

[finite mountain]

I wonder who will be selected as the manufacturer for these

Possibly either Siemens or Alstom

Or maybe a wildcard like Stadler

[mental musk]

POV right now there are 5 or so manufacturers that count

[frosty sand]

Bring back Budd!

[mental musk]

bring back high quality indestructable products!

[mental musk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479670535790526468/1310289235823296704/8r4xns5w6t2e1.png?ex=67591cb1&is=6757cb31&hm=4fa549bb905fe58a88e1daf463fcda82d7079c6a833118c82581cb48f64bb59b&

I have got no idea what's going up in here, just found this funny picture

[vestal minnow]

The train on top has so many eyes

[vestal minnow]

Undecided yet, this is still very early in the process

[strange pivot]

(It has four headlights)

[vestal minnow]

Oh right

[strange pivot]

Someone made this and put it on the Melbourne trains reddit I think

[vestal minnow]

Just realized that haha

[strange quiver]

kinda burnt out atm, so I've been just playing openttd normally

I'm thinking a quick/easy project I could do over christmas would be a tree set, since Auz Landscape has these Australian style trees that are really pretty

and the code for a tree set seems really basic...

https://github.com/Ufiby/U_Trees/blob/main/UTrees.nml

I'd have to make snow sprites, but that's not too difficult

[frosty sand]

Yeah, it’s just straight sprite replacement

[strange quiver]

I'll give it a go once I've got the HSR video out then :3

I might also try and code those signal sprites I drew a while back too

[steep echo]

I wish OpenTTD had more tree variety

50 would be good

Then you could have different forest types that are still diverse

[strange quiver]

yeah, although idk how that'd work with the code

I guess maybe using random switches you could get more diversity or something?

[frosty sand]

I think you’d need to add TreeType as a grf feature 😉

Trees are hardcoded, all you can do is override the sprites provided by the baseset

[strange quiver]

fair then, I guess I'll just stick to overwriting then

I don't think I have the skill to rewrite the tree code tbh

[frosty sand]

Adding more tree types definitely seems like a “lots of work for little gain” thing to me 🙂

[strange quiver]

yeah, agreed

it would be cool/realistic to have more trees, and maybe some way of adding regions that have their own trees

but also, is anyone likely to care?

it'd just be easier to have a grf with different trees included

[red stump]

I don't think the tree gen needs more tree sprites, what it needs are a way to make them more thematic

so like 80% one tree type 20% a bunch of others

idk something to make them a bit less "here's a perfect blob of somewhat evenly distributed randomly generated tree"

[strange quiver]

doesn't the tree generator do that already?

there was a new one added somewhat recent-ish that does it?

[red stump]

if it does I'm not sure it's aggressive enough

currently it's just a whole map of this

but maybe it's the tree newgrf I'm using

[strange quiver]

it could just be visual, but I swear I've seen trees generate in their own blobs

it might just be that ufiby's tree set looks a bit monotonous, so they all look similar

because I looked through its code before, and there wasn't anything that would change tree placement (although tbf, that's a game setting not a grf one)

[frosty sand]

I think many tiles with multiple trees include several varieties, which adds to the entropy look

I’d also like to see more distinct regions on maps, involving trees and other stuff like house styles, industries (raw material availability, etc) 🙂

[red stump]

I guess that's what I mean, like a regional difference in trees

as opposed to the same mix across the map

[strange quiver]

yeah, that would be really cool, especially if the game or map maker could define them somehow

that way you could do a US map, with separate houses/trees to represent different parts of the US

although I'm guessing coding something like that would be a nightmare

[steep echo]

Ability to control what building grfs a town used would be great

[frosty sand]

I did industry regions in ITI, pretty happy with it

Full English town set did construction themes

[strange quiver]

yeah, but it doesn't always reflect what a player would want

it only really works if you're doing a fictional game

[vestal minnow]

As someone who plays continent wide maps, it would be nice to have different architecture styles in different regions

[mental musk]

https://ckb-rubin.ru/en/company_profile/history/projects_shelved/electric_locomotive/

@strange quiver

[strange quiver]

Ooooh, interesting

[strange quiver]

oi nerds, opinion on this thumbnail for a video?

ya'll get my goofy trains, so I get to pick your brains for feedback on my youtube stuff

[strange pivot]

looks nice

the font could match the train green maybe?

[strange quiver]

I feel like having green text would look a bit too weird though

[mental musk]

noice

[steep echo]

@dawn veldt

[dawn veldt]

ahh, forgot about these channels... sorry!

[dawn veldt]

do the yellow?

[vestal minnow]

Imagine if Australia operated all the trains you designed for the set?

[strange quiver]

Too bright 😦

[strange quiver]

Yeah :(((

[strange quiver]

terrible news guys, windows doesn't let you include ":3" in a file name

guess no tree set then 😦

[soft stump]

Hell nah

That's devious

[strange quiver]

I guess that's proof that furries don't control everything in IT

[soft stump]

There's probably an underground war between furries and normal people as to determine who is going to dominate IT. Almost the same as ants

[strange quiver]

almost certainly

the guys in IT are always up to something, so fighting a war wouldn't be too out of it

[strange quiver]

I think I need to tweak some sprites...

the trees out my window don't seem to do that

[soft stump]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-the-lorax-tree-and-disco-moves-gif-16138135

[strange quiver]

god damnit

[soft stump]

Hey, this is probably the first time in yeas that gif has been used.

[strange quiver]

still!

also, good news, disco trees have been removed

[soft stump]

Good

[strange quiver]

problem is I don't have enough trees 😦

[strange quiver]

turns out my weird sprite boding system works for trees too

I can make the snow >:3

[soft stump]

Trees look really good but aren't they a tad too small?

[strange quiver]

how so?

they're the same size as most trees in opengfx and Ufiby's trees

[soft stump]

I wonder if forests would look dense enough compared to something like U&ratt

[strange quiver]

once I've got the final batch of trees in, we can see

because rn, a bunch are invisible, so the forests don't look as dense

[soft stump]

Makes sense

I might be wrong : p

[strange quiver]

you never know 🙂

arctic trees done

[soft stump]

Looking good

[strange quiver]

perfect >:3

[soft stump]

Can you make like a full trees forest?

Max trees on every tile, just to see how it looks : p

[strange quiver]

that's about as dense as it can get

although I think some are still invisible, because this tile is apparnetly full of trees

gonna flesh out the temperate ones and see if that fixes it

[soft stump]

Good

Sorry for my unexplainable obsession with density

[strange quiver]

its fine, I like dense forests too

and a lot of the bush in Australia is quite dense

[soft stump]

Cool

[strange quiver]

temperate looks a bit too spring like

especially with the jacarandas in the mix

[soft stump]

Jacarandas my beloved

We have plenty of those around Buenos Aires

[strange quiver]

they're beautiful trees

the railways here in Australia planted them everywhere

the northern line in Sydney is covered in them, and in spring its beautiful

they were also really common street trees here

[soft stump]

There's a rather famous song about them by Maria Elena Walsh

[strange quiver]

oh yh, I think I've heard it actually

[soft stump]

WHAT

insane

[strange quiver]

my friend rice makes me listen to weird south american music all the time 😦

[soft stump]

lmao

It's somewhat general culture here

[strange quiver]

of course :3

[vestal minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljLtl3TnIF0

I love how I have local Australian newsclips on their trains, the algorithm must be onto something

[strange quiver]

it wants you to learn about aussie trains :3

[strange quiver]

new loco idea?

[vestal minnow]

Yes!

Are these the road trains I read about in kindergarten? Truck engine pulling multiple trailers

[strange quiver]

they basically are :3

[vestal minnow]

Yeah wild be nice to build them in game

They look like trucks but run on rails instead of roads

[strange quiver]

that's pretty much what they are

[frosty sand]

Nice SEPTA hat! 😛

[strange quiver]

SEPTA has no right to have such good branding 😦

[frosty sand]

The logo is the only good branding, IMO. They’re rebranding lines as SEPTA Metro but that seems like the first attempt at unified branding since they ditched the R numbers for regional rail years ago

[strange quiver]

fair

but I still like the red/blue/silver they use on their passenger stock

[mental musk]

what?

(I know what SEPTA is BTW)

[strange quiver]

A hat is something people wear on their head to protect them from the sun 🙂

[crystal crag]

What's a "Sun"

Never heard of it, is it in OpenTTD

[strange quiver]

Idk but my parents said they didnt have one when they saw my fursuit

[crystal crag]

Pfffft

[steep echo]

Oof

If only they knew how much time/money went into them

[mental musk]

i do know

SEPTA changed uniforms or what?

that You are talkin' about hats?

[steep echo]

Then they’d understand they’re a sign of a hard worker

[mental musk]

https://s26.flog.pl/media/foto/12817972_czapki-kolejarzy.jpg

bonus foto from internet

[mental musk]

https://parovoz.com/gallery/RU78/20101120_290808.jpg

doesn't this paintjob remind You of something?

[frosty sand]

Network EastEast

[signal gate]

it's lovely

[steep echo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWJKZK_1l88&ab_channel=TechWizard

[strange quiver]

Well mine cost me 2k because I'm responsible :333

Also my parents haven't disowned me, that was a joke 😦

[strange quiver]

2TT mentioned it because I was wearing a SEPTA hat in the video on High Speed Rail that I posted yesterday

[soft stump]

You have a fursuit?

[strange quiver]

Yeah

[soft stump]

Funny

Actually never seen one irl

[strange quiver]

Theyre cool irl :3

[soft stump]

What's the texture like? Does it feel synthetic or is it soft and nice?

[strange quiver]

Soft, they're pretty much all made out of faux fur

[soft stump]

interesting

I always thought they'd feel like sports clothing which I can't touch at all

[strange quiver]

Its not

Typically people will wear under armour or stuff underneath, since it helps dissipate heat

But thats only really needed for full suits

And I've only got a partial anyway

[soft stump]

interesting, thanks for the info

[strange quiver]

Nw

[mental musk]

i've got no idea what happenned in this chat...

[strange quiver]

Furries :3

[mental musk]

You know what is made out of fur and is cool?

This
https://www.naostrzu.pl/foto/towary/midi/8c15b94989ccd58bf01af822d2aefbf5.jpg

Although it is most likely not practical in Australia

ok, let's go back to trains

[strange quiver]

Nah, way to warm for that

[mental musk]

https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/none/path/se849712ab4d4f904/image/i5d2dafb2ab41bb99/version/1358189531/image.jpg

series 252, later renumbered to series 156, last electric locomotive designed in GDR

heavy duty C0-C0, it was ment to supplement the fleet of series 250 (later 155)

but only 4 252s were ever build

[mental musk]

How You can survive in such weather...

If I recall correctly it's >30 celsiush almost all year in Australia

[dim pulsar]

Very 25K

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:China_Railways_type_25K_coaches

[mental musk]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Heping_Train.jpg

@dim pulsar I wonder what is this thing

Heping_Train

?

[dim pulsar]

I don’t know

Maybe this was the remain from the Japan-occupied Manchurian Railway

They had coaches like this, maybe

[strange pivot]

NO

Reaches 30 in spring or summer, and probably earlier in the desert

But it can get very cold, reaching 10 in winter on most days, and occasionally dropping below 0. It never snows through, in the last 10 years the most I’ve gotten is a tiny patch of a few snowflakes

(Except in the mountains)

[mental musk]

what?

You call +10 very cold?

🤣

[strange pivot]

No I meant below 0

[steep echo]

So what I’m hearing is

Australian weather is like English weather

[strange pivot]

Yeah kinda, but warmer and less rain

In Tasmania it does snow in winter, and it’s colder than the mainland

Tasmania is probably closer to England

[strange pivot]

Does it reach higher than 35 in summer?

[steep echo]

One of the last summers it got to 40

I was joking with my statement though

[mental musk]

quite cold, but I would never call that very cold

[steep echo]

Many days this month it has been 10c

[mental musk]

in the summer - on the southern hemisphere the seasons are the other way round

[strange pivot]

It’s very cold here lol

[steep echo]

Christmas is supposed to beto 10c

And Christmas Eve 12

[mental musk]

where?

[steep echo]

England

[mental musk]

in Poland right now there is Halny/Chinook (warm wind from south), so it's about +10 C

Where I live

Ususally winter starts in January

[strange pivot]

In Tasmania summer is around 30, but I don’t know exactly

[mental musk]

how you can survive such temperatures?

[strange pivot]

23 and 30 on Christmas here

[strange pivot]

Water, stay indoors

Oh yeah, practically every house has aircon

[mental musk]

I know, but outdoors?

nightmare

[strange pivot]

Just die

I heard in England not that many houses have AC

[mental musk]

in Poland AC is not common

and some people say that it is unhealthy...

[strange pivot]

The AC is unhealthy or not having it is unhealthy?

[mental musk]

people say that AC is unhealthy

[strange pivot]

Why?

It makes the air drier

That can be annoying

[mental musk]

although for me, an person who BARLY survives polish summers

I would love to have AC

[mental musk]

i don't know

[strange pivot]

How hot does it get

[mental musk]

in the summer typically something like 27 C

[strange pivot]

Oh

[mental musk]

but S O M E T I M E S

30-31

[strange pivot]

Last Monday it reached 40

Not even mid summer yet

[mental musk]

mate, that's HELL on earth!

[strange pivot]

Yeah

The wind was blowing so it wasn’t so bad

[mental musk]

I would love to go somewhere very cold in winter someday

[strange pivot]

Worst is when it is humid and hot

[mental musk]

like to Finland, or Siberia

[strange pivot]

I like the cold a lot more than hot

[mental musk]

I'm immune to cold

I hardly ever freeze

[strange pivot]

Yeah me too

My friends always ask why I wear a t shirt in winter

But I think it gets a lot colder where you are

[steep echo]

Draft probably

[strange quiver]

Its not, most of the year is between 10-25c if anything

[soft stump]

Hot is nice when there's a swimming pool/river/ocean nearby, otherwise it's hellish

Cold is annoying but incredibly easy to solve, definitely prefer that over scorching hot weather

[signal gate]

scorchio

[strange quiver]

Yeah. I just moved from Penrith to Parra and even on that day, the difference was noticeable

Its so much cooler where I am now

[dim pulsar]

I am in Gibraltar rn, it is tshirt weather 🙂

[strange quiver]

ALCO RSC-3s done, in Candy too :3

[soft stump]

Very nice!

[strange quiver]

oh yh, argentenia had a few

which should make that south american train set easier

[vestal minnow]

North American?

[strange quiver]

no, these are the ones exported to NSW as the 40 class

[vestal minnow]

Ok

[strange quiver]

I wonder how hard do the rebuild would be...

actually it has the same nose as an X/P class, so I might save it until I've done them

especially since the cab would need to be moved

[mental musk]

standarisation between diffrent classes of locomotives to make repairs (eg. after hitting an cangaroo) easier?

[strange quiver]

no, they just wanted to rebuild an ALCO with EMD and GE parts because they thought it would be funny

but the PTC told them no

[mental musk]

what were thay thinking?

[strange quiver]

fnnuy

also they were trying to get a contract for a rebuild because it comes out of operating expenses, and not capital expenses

the idea was the PTC would be more likely to go for it since then they can avoid parliament

but the 40s were way too knackered by the 70s to make it worth it

[mental musk]

theritically rebuild can get locomotives avaialibilty higher, due tohiger relaiablitiy, and improve parameters like speed, pulling power or fuel consumption

but it will not increase the NUMBER of aviavble rollling stock

[strange quiver]

kinda?

the ptc got rid of the 40s regardless, but whatever parts in them that were still good went into newbuild 442 class locomotives

[mental musk]

that's smart!

[strange quiver]

nsw 49 class done :3

[mental musk]

really nice

[strange quiver]

can't decide

should I do the AN AL or AN DL class next?

[untold viper]

AN AL lmao

[strange quiver]

:////

[mental musk]

AL

the DL looks dreadfull...

[untold viper]

Yeah I prefer AN AL too

[mental musk]

like an bootleg version of american cowl units

while AL is an perfectly balanced timeless boxcab shape

[strange quiver]

you can be wrong :3

it'll be next tho

[mental musk]

||Aerodynamics? Never heard about tham||

[strange quiver]

I'll do the AL and ALF rebuild now

[mental musk]

what is ALF?

[strange quiver]

90s rebuild of the class

basically just a newer prime mover and the 2nd cab being removed

[mental musk]

OK

I understand

i thought it was an rebuild of DL

WHY thay were literally slapping random letters instand of having an classification system!

at least the numbering seems to be kosher, not random like in US

[strange quiver]

look what they did to the boy 😦

[strange quiver]

yh, I think they just did whatever they thought was funny

[mental musk]

WHY would anyone do anything like that?

[strange quiver]

most of ANs fleet only had one cab, and the second one was pretty useless

since doing 2000km runs don't require turning around all that often

[mental musk]

so thay standardised tham?

thay schould consider 1 cab and 2 cab versions two diffrent classes

like EU07 and ET41

BTW

https://northamericabyrail.info/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/0-E70.jpg

Note that thay have delated the rear cab

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/little-joe-tim-mulina.jpg

BTW

https://www.milwaukeeroadarchives.com/Photograph Collection/Electrification/Electrification 1/images/1955 E22 Tacoma, WA.jpg

Don't know what series/clss is this

[strange quiver]

yeah, they probably did it for similar reasons to AN

[mental musk]

but I like it's look

[strange quiver]

its an EP3 rebuild iirc?

I've got it on the US loco list

[mental musk]

POV
There is an severe lack of US electric locos in the NARS set

[strange quiver]

yeah, that's why I went on the hunt for as many as I could find

[vestal minnow]

There weren't too many built and the existing sets only focus on real locomotives

[mental musk]

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-qbeofcdmzf/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/90019/277666/ep5-schemes-800px__43299.1695508820.jpg?c=2?imbypass=on

but.;..

[vestal minnow]

Looking forward to when the generic locomotive sets expand!

[mental musk]

unbuild proporsals

and export models?

and

all the diffrent variants of E60?

Including the unbuild ones?

https://ogrforum.com/fileSendAction/fcType/0/fcOid/81537088220272110/filePointer/81537088226831754/fodoid/81537088226831750/imageType/LARGE/inlineImage/true/DC0E1C9D-DAF6-4C86-ACC1-317F38BD1F12.png

hmmmm

this thing is stylish!

https://ogrforum.com/fileSendAction/fcType/0/fcOid/81537088220272110/filePointer/81537088299665363/fodoid/81537088299665359/imageType/LARGE/inlineImage/true/DSC03214.JPG

WHAT?

VR had an other class of electric locos too?

other than L series?

[strange quiver]

yee, they were just for metropolitan parcels traffic

[mental musk]

ture?

for that job thay could just rebuild some MU electric cars into locos

[strange quiver]

yh, but that only works for goods that begin and end their destination on the metropolitan network

which they built some tait parcel motors for

for stuff that came from outside the network, or for miscelaneous shunting, the E classes would handle it

[strange quiver]

okay so interestingly enough, the AL class has the same body and greeble layout as the BL class

which I suppose makes sense, since they're the same locomotive internally, but that makes differentiating them hard >:/

[mental musk]

maybe the same, but one of tham is passenger variant with higher gearing and electric coach heating?

or, more likely in Australia

supplying power to coaches AC

[strange quiver]

I'm just gonna tweak the greebles, I'm trying to stick to representing irl locomotives realistically

also we tended to use generator vans anyway, so head end power wasn't that common

[strange quiver]

guess who just realised they gave the 81/BL/G classes the wrong power rating?

aa

[strange quiver]

you can kinda tell them apart

also there were way to many 26 series locomotives sold in Australia

oops. all EMD 40 series

[mental musk]

but....

GAME BALANCE!

What if the parameters are really, really close!
90% of players will just stick to the superior version!

not to mention the depot menu clutter!

[strange quiver]

yh, but they're not all introduced at once, and all have slightly different stats

besides, I like having the different sub-variations

[mental musk]

how about linking tham to an sub menue

like in iron horse or xUSSR

?

depot menu clutter is meh

depot menu clutter is THE thing that makes 2cc set unuseable to me

[strange quiver]

horse only does it for liveries, like I do, at least for locomotives

and they're all different traffic types, and with different power ratings and speeds

they're just all based on the same basic design, just for different purposes

[mental musk]

great

How about adding descriptions?

Like Universal/goodstrain/express passenger

[strange quiver]

I already include them

as well as what the real locomotive classes are

[strange quiver]

AN AN and ALF locos done :3

[mental musk]

Canadian Pacyfic liveriy?

https://b1944490.smushcdn.com/1944490/wp-content/uploads/sites/41/2020/01/RM-Dec-2019-p98.jpg?lossy=2&strip=1&webp=1

[strange quiver]

nah, its the early AN livery

[mental musk]

hmmm inspired?

btw

do i see an passenger coach between flatbeds?

[strange quiver]

probably not, it was based on the Commonwealth railways livery, which they firsted used in 1951

[strange quiver]

yeah, it's probably a crew car

[severe elbow]

ep-5 my beloved

[finite mountain]

Just stumbled upon this while looking at some trains

The design reminds me a lot of the F40PH which makes sense considering this is a EMD made locomotive

[strange quiver]

Well it was made by Clyde...

But its technically no an F40 internally, since it has a 12 cylinder 710 engine

Its technically more related to the F59PH

[vestal minnow]

Or livery names if possible? Would be nice to see which company is represented here

[dawn veldt]

the aussies loved our design so much they copied it, but gave their slight spin with the nose horn lol

[strange quiver]

Nose horns are the superior choice :3

[dawn veldt]

maybe, but every time i see that thing i just think of this meme lol

[strange quiver]

Tbf its not wrong

[mental musk]

https://tcawestern.org/images/tyco18.jpg

[severe elbow]

looks strangely mainland european

[mellow loom]

Feels Swiss

If these two Swiss trains had a more angular baby

[severe elbow]

yea

[vestal minnow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/lnvWYVNTYyA?si=sEehcWGJuJ2BSs6p

[strange quiver]

australia moment

[severe elbow]

this is a development thread, not a meme channel

although that is rather scary

[strange quiver]

occassional mems can be fun :3

[severe elbow]

i was only saying as the last time it happened it wasnt taken too well

#1147724747677900851

[strange quiver]

fair, but idm

[turbid bronze]

OP’s rule their own dev threads.

[strange quiver]

Oh perfect then

New rule

Everyone in here must send me $5

[cold scarab]

Huh

Too much

[crystal crag]

$$$$$
Here you go, $, 5x

Though technically there's six in that message, you owe me one

[strange quiver]

:////

Its mine now

[crystal crag]

Smh, so greedy

A much more fun rule would have been "New Rule: Disregard this rule."

[strange quiver]

I just moved 😦

I need to steal money from people

[strange quiver]

Sure, that can be one of the rules

[frosty sand]

If we’re giving it to you willingly you have failed to steal it

[soft stump]

no

Well maybe I can

depends on the currency

[strange quiver]

I'm just distracting you so I can

[strange quiver]

Thats just encouraging me to find the most valuable dollar currency

[strange quiver]

😦

[crystal crag]

My local railway line :(

So mean

[strange quiver]

I just got a new line so ha

Legit the day I move into my new place, they announce the parra light rail is opening and its so useful :3

[strange quiver]

DL class done btw

it would have been done last night, but I got invited to go to mcdonalds

also, anyone got a request for an Australian/kiwi locomotive?

I think I've already done all the requests I've gotten thus far

[strange pivot]

Do you do steam locos?

Have you done the P class?

[strange quiver]

not atm, but I'll do them in future

[strange quiver]

the Vline one?

[strange pivot]

Yeah

[strange quiver]

I haven't, but I'm gonna save those for when I do the T classes, since I'll wanna do them all in one big batch

[strange pivot]

Alright nice

[strange quiver]

if you've got any other requests, I'll try and do those tho :3

[steep echo]

$5

[vestal minnow]

💵

[cold scarab]

💴

[strange quiver]

you're all gremlins >:/

[untold viper]

💶

[mellow loom]

💷

[twilit grove]

🪙

[strange quiver]

been reworking the livery table for the American locomotive set, and I've managed to cut it down massively

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ARb0h0whRNbf8zt6wdXY-O1Pa2zIgEjDsbNkuVG6VGE/edit?usp=sharing

its at the top if anyone wants to take a look

I've cut it down so now each locomotive will only need 50 ids instead of 100

and I think the selection I have should cover 90% of liveries people will want to do

[vestal minnow]

Awesome! Look forward to its release

Can you pin these links? Would be nice to get back to them once it’s buried by newer messages

[strange quiver]

I can

[strange quiver]

also I'm going to change up how ids are allocated

with my Australian loco pack, they're assigned by service type then introduction date

but with the NA loco pack, they'll be assigned by service type, manufacturer, and then introduction date

so now if you sort by engineid, all the EMD passenger locomotives will be grouped together

[vestal minnow]

Yeah it’s more organized to sort by manufacturer

You can manually sort by introduction date within the menu

[mental musk]

Nice that You included that 2 cab turbine loco

BTW

Where do You get the concept drawing/renders from?

and what do You mean by Goober locomotive?

[strange quiver]

just whereever I find them

[strange quiver]

stuff that's funny, but doesn't make sense

like an E unit powered by the 12-1010 engines from the SD89MAC

[mental musk]

http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/locoloco.htm

anything by Sigi Strasser

[signal gate]

See also Horse “joker” and “lolz” classes 😛

[strange quiver]

problem is a lot of those are actual proposals

goobers are just dumb ideas that I've had that no one in their right mind would actually build

[mental musk]

http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/holman/holman.htm

this was ment only to get money from investors

http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/polygon/polygon.htm

[strange quiver]

too real!

also I'm not doing steam atm

[mental musk]

good decission

[vestal minnow]

Merry Christmas!

[strange pivot]

Merry Christmas!

[finite mountain]

Merry Christmas everyone!

[severe elbow]

i still gotta wait 2 hours

[finite mountain]

I still have to wait 7 hours

[soft stump]

5 hours until christmas

[dim pulsar]

Shengdan Kuaile!

Or Merii Kurisumasu! 😛

[soft stump]

https://tenor.com/view/azumanga-daioh-osaka-azumanga-my-honest-reaction-to-that-information-what-gif-8236412769986181577

[strange quiver]

Merry Christmas nerds

[dim pulsar]

That old guy sells chestnuts 😋

[cold scarab]

Lay egg happy 🤪

Saint born fast joy

美丽克里斯梅斯

[mental musk]

https://external-preview.redd.it/998Hw7QUpG2LDJirR5xGoKn985j4c-g4FdvcvCye72w.jpg?auto=webp&s=d58bef2c5bc827b0231eda0415dc3804e78bb2ca

[cold scarab]

wha

Lay egg is for 生蛋 in Mandarin
and 生蛋 sounds the same as 圣诞, which is "Christmas" 😛

[vestal minnow]

Oh so that’s what it means

[strange quiver]

found some of the proposed NR class liveries

good to see that Guy Fieri got to propose his own

[strange quiver]

oh also, google docs added a document tabs system, so I can easily combine all my working documents :3

at least all the documents related to one project

[lone minnow]

https://generation-trains.fandom.com/wiki/Arabian_Arrow_ATX

Hmmm

( Fandom link btw. So beware of ads )

Could be cool to add although i'm not too sure how the devs will feel

[strange quiver]

ooooh, interesting

[lone minnow]

ye

[mental musk]

bootleg version of sovet ER200 limited express EMU?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/ЭР200_в_пути.JPG/1200px-ЭР200_в_пути.JPG

[lone minnow]

yep

[dim pulsar]

When I was young I tried drawing a high speed railway from Istanbul to Shanghai

[mental musk]

would love to go on such an trip!

[vestal minnow]

Happy new year!

[polar sparrow]

HNY

[strange pivot]

Happy generic new year

[strange quiver]

you've got the idea :3

also I haven't been dead btw, I've just been working on other things

I have drawn the GT46CW though, which is what the NR class would have looked like if it was built by clyde engineering

and the normal GT46C, which I'm kinda iffy on because idk if the cab looks right

it has a very particular shape that's difficult to get right

[strange quiver]

done the base sprite for the GT46C-ACe, still not sure about the cab

I might do liveries tomorrow

rn all 3 variants of the GT46C don't have liveries so yeah...

[mental musk]

the cab looks way too flat!

[strange quiver]

true...

[mental musk]

Looks a lot like TE114

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/TE114-0068_with_train.jpg/1024px-TE114-0068_with_train.jpg

[strange quiver]

it does a little bit tbh

idk how I feel about this, but it breaks it up more?

I think that's it actually

[mental musk]

I ve got no idea...

make the pillar between windows narrowe

[strange quiver]

I think I like this?

aaa

I think the smaller windows look better

[mental musk]

nut make the middle pillar 1 pixel wide, not 2 pixel wide

[strange quiver]

I can't, if I did that then it wouldn't be symmetrical

looks a bit weird anyway

[mental musk]

add the left pillar

[strange quiver]

it just looks odd

[mental musk]

indeed...

or maybe...

still bad

[strange quiver]

yeah...

I'll just stick with what I have now

it'll probably be something I'll get used to after a while

we'll see how I feel tomorrow when I do liveries

[strange quiver]

how the hell do I do this livery in company colour?

it's like Aurizon picked the hardest livery to do in it

I think I'll do Yellow as CC1, and the Orange as CC2

[turbid bronze]

I want black as a CC so I can do the Genesee & Wyoming livery

Okay, I know OneRail kept the livery (mostly because it was too expensive to change them, I asked back when I used to do a lot of work for them)

[strange quiver]

I'm insulted that you wouldn't think I'd factor that in

(i haven't done these in the G&W livery yet, so the NJ class can be an example)

[strange quiver]

Westrail livery thankfully looks better in game that it does in gimp

[strange quiver]

that's most of the liveries done

still need to do SCT, National Rail, downer leasing, and SSR, but I'm burnt out

all 3 locomotives are done on the same sheet, so each livery takes a fair bit, but it means doing the liveries in bulk overall is faster

plan is to do the NR class and C44ACi alongside their heavyweight variants, and then I'll put this all on Bananas and go back to US locomotives

[strange quiver]

the downer leasing scheme actually goes hard

[frosty sand]

Do you have extra text that explains the difference between these types, for those of us who don’t know?

[strange quiver]

Yee, in game it says what the irl locomotive was/who used it

If its only a proposal, it says what its for

They also have slightly different stats

Also at some point I wanna write a SBB/Japan set style manual giving info about all the locomotives included

If only to flex my railway research skills

[vestal minnow]

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/new-skytrain-mark-v-cars-entering-service-2025

[strange quiver]

ooooh, new train time :3

[vestal minnow]

New skytrains to enter service

Hopefully we’ll see them out later this year

[vestal minnow]

Yes! Would be nice to see explanations of design or liveries if you want to follow the real life style

[strange quiver]

hopefully

[strange quiver]

I'm not sure I wanna include a system for explaining liveries, at least in game I'm not

[vestal minnow]

Oh ok

[strange quiver]

I kinda wanna leave it vague to force people to experiment

sorta like how in iron horse it doesn't say what liveries are what, which forces the player to experiment to find something they like, or modify a real world livery into something else

[vestal minnow]

The Swiss guide was nice to look at to see how they worked when I used their set

[strange quiver]

yeah, I might include an explanation like that in the guide, just not in game

[vestal minnow]

Right like me setting colours to match via or amtrak

[strange quiver]

yeah

although tbf, in the NA set, the Amtrak/Via liveries will be in their own category to better id them

[vestal minnow]

Ok

[mental musk]

what....

You mean somehing like the OG american translation set had?

[strange quiver]

I guess?

[signal gate]

Horse has livery examples only in the docs 🙂 https://grf.farm/iron-horse/3.35.0/html/phoenix.html

[dim pulsar]

Ragin works on trains just like Garry works on objects

Too much dedication for free

[strange quiver]

yeah, its basically what I kinda wanna do

although I do a lot more liveries

[strange quiver]

there must be something in the water in Newcastle 😦

[vestal minnow]

Both of you are from the same area in Australia?

Small world

[signal gate]

big country though 😛

[strange quiver]

Yee

Although hes from Newcastle proper while I grew up near the airport

I live in Sydney now tho 😦

[finite mountain]

Not sure if you're planning on doing UK stuff or not but I found something that may be a bit interesting. Apparently, there were plans to make a high speed train known as the InterCity 250. It was drawn up in the late 80s and the trains would have consisted of a electric locomotive that would've been the Class 93, 9 coaches that would have been designated as Mark 5 coaches, and a mark 5 driving van. There was supposed to be a total of 30 trainsets built but it was canned in 1992

Heres another photo that shows what the full consist would've looked like

Apparently the trains would have a top speed of at least 155 mph

Shame it never saw the light of day tho

[steep echo]

It’s like an APT fucked a Eurostar

[finite mountain]

Yeah it does kinda look like both the APT and the original Eurostar now that you mention it

[mental musk]

to be honest, that would be an nice addition

[signal gate]

it's not in Horse

if that's a consideration

the stats are, the sprites aren't

[mental musk]

hmmmm horse has a couple of trains with design based on unbuild real proporsals...

[signal gate]

massive amount of Horse is that

[mental musk]

and based on export/licenced models

https://tenor.com/view/pkp-gif-25081844

[vestal minnow]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/DEYQ6oXyf4U/?igsh=MXQ5cDFzbGE4M3g1aA==

If things had gone differently, there would have been an MK1 export to LA

[earnest meadow]

i wouldn't call that a MK1

[vestal minnow]

Oh ok

The first train reminded me of the MK1s in Vancouver

[polar sparrow]

They also could have had an ALWEG monorail for free. They turned it down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piF7adQyXCk&t=471s&pp=ygUVbG9zIGFuZ2VsZXMgbW9ub3JhaWwg

[mental musk]

Thay had an good transit system (streetcars)

Than thay got rid of it

What the f...

Great streetcar conspiracy?

[vestal minnow]

Yeah there is a conspiracy going around that streetcars and interurbans were bought up after wwii so they can be removed and replaced with buses

GM could sell more of their buses that way

[signal gate]

it was true no? not a conspiracy?

https://www.planetizen.com/node/76622

it was an actual conspiracy of sorts, not just a conspiracy theory

the problem with conspiracy theory is that it usually hides the real conspiracy 😛

[vestal minnow]

There were plenty of factors, the exact reasoning probably varied between cities

In some places the infrastructure was in disrepair after decades of use and cities considered repairs or replacement with cheaper buses that don’t need extra infrastructure

[strange pivot]

I’m happy Melbourne’s trams live on

One of the few places where they still survive and are still getting improvements

[frosty sand]

My understanding is “just a conspiracy theory”, but one that lots of transit people want to believe

[polar sparrow]

There wzs a whole trial over it. In the end, no real conspiracy, just a series of tragic coincidences.

[vestal minnow]

https://youtu.be/LFnxjG53uuc?si=BKG-mlZ7E7e1ou2J

Take a ride on Ragin’s trains departing from Garry’s stations and passing by Garry’s landscape pieces

[strange pivot]

I might just do that as I’m in NSW on holiday

I’ve already seen Garry’s rocks

[mental musk]

also bear in mind that these were run by prvate firms that often simply did not had money for maintanance or replace of infra or streetcars itself...

I am really happy to have streetcars in Cracow.
I use tham often and thay work great

[strange quiver]

ooooh

I don't have any plans for a UK set atm, but it'll go in one if I ever do it in future

[strange quiver]

V set my beloved

[strange quiver]

oh btw, the reason I haven't been posting much is because I started my new job, and its full time so aaa

I don't really have much time to work on anything else

[turbid bronze]

Yeah it changes things quite a bit hey

[vestal minnow]

Congratulations!

[strange quiver]

Im still not used to having to be up by 6:30

Aaa

[strange quiver]

worst part about the NR class is that it has lots of weird silver greebling

best part is that its basically symetrical, which makes drawing easier :3

[strange pivot]

Looks nice

[strange quiver]

thanks :3

it'll look better if I actually finish it

tbh I'm tempted to bring my laptop to work so I can draw sprites while on my break

but aaa

[strange quiver]

went on site inspections today, and jfc new houses are dodgy af

don't buy off the plan, jfc

I'm tired, but I wanna finish that god damn NR Class

[vestal minnow]

Ooh nice

I trust you had a great first week

[strange quiver]

I did!

it's just tiring

[strange quiver]

sprites done, liveries can be this weekends job

I want to include the heavy haul version, but they're near identical so aaa

might do the C44ACi and C44ACHi on the same sheet too

it's interesting that the UGL locomotives got heavy haul versions, but their Downer GT46 family didn't

except the GT46CWM I suppose

but the ACE model didn't get a heavy haul version at least

[mental musk]

what is the difference?

[strange quiver]

higher weight (132t vs 180t)

[mental musk]

I would just include one version, the one that is superior in terms of the ingame performance

as there are no axle load restrictions ingame, and as the tractive effort (pulling power) is higher for heavier locos, just as IRL I would include the heavy verion

Unless it would be Uber OP...

[strange quiver]

well the higher weight means higher tractive effort in game

so the stats are quite different

and I'm gonna adjust the heavy haul one to be more expensive

[mental musk]

but more locos =/= better set...

You can always make an generic version with some parameters from 1 type and others from the 2nd one

or just use arithmetic average

[strange quiver]

yh, but I can add them if I want

the differences are subtle, but they're still there

[mental musk]

Are You sure?

Would not that make 2CC effect where there are dozens of locos players don't use?

BTW

Any plans on european locos too?

[strange quiver]

yh, but it's only 1-2, and stat wise they're fundamentally different

and tbf, as long as I know I'd use them, that's all that matters

[crystal crag]

doesn't matter if the units are quality and the dev is having fun, which I'm pretty sure Ragin is

[strange quiver]

not in the near-ish future unfortunately :/

[strange quiver]

pretty much :3

my stuff is mostly my way to play with trains I think are cool

at least until TFNSW lets me take control >:3333

[turbid bronze]

Ssssshhh. This is not a gameplay set this is Ragin being a massive fucking dork set. Let him cook.

[strange quiver]

yeah

[mental musk]

this will escalate quickly

like the DPRK Set

[strange quiver]

although at a later date I'll probably make a simplified version that's just one GRF

but that'd be when I've done steam locomotives and freight stock

[mental musk]

https://i1.kwejk.pl/k/obrazki/2019/02/A04fD9EJSmitRLEQ.jpg

All aboard!

Close the doors!

DEPARURE!

[turbid bronze]

Lmao, you have absolutely no idea. It already has escalated quickly. You’re twelve months too late at least

[mental musk]

https://cdn.dca-design.com/uploads/images/_small_content_image/191347/euro_tunnel_image_hero_le_shuttle_003.webp?v=1726129798

https://cdn.dca-design.com/uploads/images/_small_content_image/191348/euro_tunnel_image_hero_le_shuttle_004.webp?v=1726129799

[dim pulsar]

TGV HeightProPlus++?

[severe elbow]

thats le shuttle

pretty much how it looks irl

[strange quiver]

finally sussed out how to do the Aurizon livery

gonna have to roll it out to the GT46C and C40/C44 family of locomotives now

[strange quiver]

designed by the same people who did the Tangaras and 1992 tube stock :3

I'm happy then :3

[severe elbow]

love how theres barely any difference in them

[strange quiver]

well that's what they're like irl!

stat wise they're different tho

[severe elbow]

true

[strange quiver]

also its more noticeable when the whole roster is viewed together :3

[severe elbow]

the realisation im going to be drawing a lot of what you already have been for the nz content

[strange quiver]

true

if you do want any help, lmk

and make sure to show me your stuff when you draw it too :3

I saw your ef class and those 56ft carriages you drew and they're really good

[severe elbow]

thank you

i was working on a dx class and i think it looks off

[strange quiver]

I'll take a look if you want

drawing hood units can be a pain

[severe elbow]

yea

its weird

[strange quiver]

you're doing your stuff in finescale right?

so to match stuff like UKRS more?

[severe elbow]

idk

im just doing it to how i did the ef

[strange quiver]

fair enough, well it just looks like that scale

what you have atm looks good so far, but I'd probably change what template you're using

for the scale I do, generally anything that's ~20m long I'll use the 8 template, but anything around ~15m I'll use the 7 template

Irl the DXs are 16.9m long, so it might be good to go with 7 long instead, since that will scale them better

[severe elbow]

yea alr

whyd i choose this as my first diesel loco lmao

[strange quiver]

goober moment

but tbf, NZ doesn't really have that many non-hood diesels

at least nowadays

also, here's my length templates if you wanna use them as a reference

and here's my NZR DG Class sprite sheet if you wanna take a look at it

it's 7 long

[severe elbow]

which program would i open this in

[strange quiver]

gimp, idk if anything else uses those files unfortunatley :/

[severe elbow]

nah as im using paint.net

[strange quiver]

ah fair

[strange quiver]

well either way, the lengths here are the same as my template

also the National rail liveries are done

[vestal minnow]

The third last engine from the right reminds me of southern pacific while the second last reminds me of conrail

[strange quiver]

they are a bit similar tbh

[dawn veldt]

i see it now

[severe elbow]

i feel like i should put the gangway connection on the other end

for coaches

[strange quiver]

just add a pixel to your template, the game can overlap it

its what I do for all my coaches and locomotives

it also lets you add small details, like a tail light hanging off the back

[severe elbow]

ah ye

ah yea cause i forgot to even add one on my Rm SF

maybe more than 1 actually

ima revisit all of them over the week

[strange quiver]

easy, it shouldn't take too much to do

also those sprites looks really good!

[severe elbow]

i have already done every nz electric unit/loco so

[strange quiver]

oooh, they look good

I still need to draw them myself

I've barely done any NZ locomotives thus far anyway

[severe elbow]

oh interesting, i did a gangway for the AM

its just only on the middle coach

[strange quiver]

yeah, you always find those weird oddities over time

[severe elbow]

inconsistency finds its way to me so much lmao

[severe elbow]

should do a purely nz week or smth lol

just get loads out the way

[strange quiver]

you get better at it over time tho

[severe elbow]

id imagine so

[strange quiver]

maybe, but I work full time now 😦

I might just do some easy ones that I can re-use the sprites for

[severe elbow]

same

[strange quiver]

like the DA and DI classes

since QR bought some identical locomotives

iirc WAGR did too actually

[severe elbow]

a lot of transactions happened between nzr and a few aus rail bodies so makes sense

[severe elbow]

i feel like i did the 2 modern ones well though

[strange quiver]

Pretty much

[strange quiver]

Oooh, they look great

I should probably add the AT logo to mine, but it'd be difficult since its modular

[severe elbow]

theres a way to keep it on a certain coach within a consist

jp+ does it

[strange quiver]

Yee, I know

I'll probably just canablise my push pull code and make the middle car always have it

I'll play around with it and see how I feel

Rn it just used the normal pantograph code I nick from fairyfloss

[severe elbow]

ah lol

cyclops consist

[strange quiver]

Oh no

[severe elbow]

probably the coaches i want to draw next

[strange quiver]

Although they probably Marshall the motor car in the centre of a 3 car

They didn't have just plain trailers for them

And thats what they did when they used them outside of the Johnsonville line iirc

[severe elbow]

oh yea it was a motor in the middle

[strange quiver]

Have fun, I need to put them in my set, I just cant work out where

[severe elbow]

ill do them alongside the rest of the mk2s

[strange quiver]

I gotta flex my railway historian skills :3

[strange quiver]

Yh, that's what I'll do

Im just not sure if I introduce them when BR got them, or when NZ did

[severe elbow]

when nz did id say

so 1998

[strange quiver]

Since if I do the latter, the MkIIs come in after the MkIIIs, since VR looked into them

[severe elbow]

oh i just remembered you arent doing different gauges

so that wouldnt make sense no

[strange quiver]

I think I'll do the BR intro for the intercity cars, and the 90s for the SAs

[severe elbow]

yea

[strange quiver]

Not really, I'm just making everything standard for simplicity

Also ttyl, I'm getting lunch with a friend

[severe elbow]

alr cya

gotta go bed now anyway its 2am lol

[strange quiver]

aren't you in nz?

oh wait, british

[mental musk]

thay 3rd one does differ quite a lot

it seems to have some sort of an panoramic windschield

[strange quiver]

aaaaaaaaa

they're all done

so many liveries for 4 locomotives

[lone minnow]

I think having one that is cheaper but less powerful and one that is more expensive but has more power is better. More options are more interesting to me from a gameplay perspective IMO

[severe elbow]

ye lol

its a bit confusing

[strange quiver]

at least you're moving somewhere nicer :3

[severe elbow]

definitely

well, when i can

[strange quiver]

well, good luck!

[vestal minnow]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/DEtgLDUxBpS/?img_index=1&igsh=d2d4emE1ZWgyNjRh

[strange quiver]

Omg look at the boy

[vestal minnow]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/DEwQZB8MOuC/?igsh=Z2p0YjB2MGd1cXg1

We also had this commemorative certificate in Vancouver to celebrate the skytrain opening back in 1985

[mental musk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211939992117710848/1328452117089747035/GE_1970s_amtrak_locomotive_concept.jpeg?ex=6786c0f2&is=67856f72&hm=3dcacee5d1c38ddc4be5e3acd0b0877369db4c8cc386d0831596e60c0a6a0bbc&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211939992117710848/1328452116674646067/EMD_F70_proposal.jpg?ex=6786c0f2&is=67856f72&hm=223965ff3e26bfb7b5520c1ca3020450ca4d5b127e7bdfee7113b06ce9fb939d&

[strange quiver]

Dw, I know about them, and they're on the list :3

[severe elbow]

i really like this one

[strange quiver]

kinda tempted to do one last Aussie/Kiwi loco...

has anyone got a suggestion?

It has to be simple though (no variations that would require two separate sprites, nor a large amount of required liveries)

[mental musk]

maybe something electric?

[strange quiver]

I could, but tbf, I've already done most of the electrics

[mental musk]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/4601-on-turntable-2015-03-17.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Arhs_4501_berowra.jpg

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/locomotive/images/e/eb/14847074594_9708d12254_b-1-.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20240504024720

https://live.staticflickr.com/1971/45576430432_3cf2abc96a_z.jpg

And those 2 from New Zeland, but as far as I know thay are done?

BTW I like the looks of the 85 series

https://www.sets.org.au/fleet/imgs/4615sand.jpg

we have BR blue at home

hmmmmmmmmmm

https://imagedelivery.net/znDGKaxxskgDbNUpqPVRFg/ph-collection-media/images/434732.jpg/w=2560,q=75,metadata=keep

WAIT

there is more

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Electric_Locomotives_Near_Paekakariki.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/NZR-EA-Wellington.jpg/640px-NZR-EA-Wellington.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/NZR_EO_class_locomotive_05.JPG/1200px-NZR_EO_class_locomotive_05.JPG

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/NZR_EC_class_locomotive_01.JPG

https://nzrailphotos.co.nz/images/locos/ed103.jpg

https://www.railjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/KiwiRail-train-EF-class-CODY-COOPER-Wikimedia.jpg

are the AC ones still running?

[strange quiver]

I've actually done most of these

[mental musk]

just as I thought

[strange quiver]

the 46, 85, and 86 classes are already drawn

as well as the NZ EF class

[strange quiver]

even this thing is too

[strange quiver]

haven't done the weird EO/EC/ED locomotives thought

but idk if I'm in the mood for them tbh

[signal gate]

Do Gronk

[strange quiver]

sure, the VR F Class hasn't appeared in anything yet

apparently they were identical to the BR Class 11

[mental musk]

hmmmmmmmmmmm Gronk with cunkle couplar?

[strange quiver]

pretty much

alos F208 was apparently called the "Dynon Donk"

which is adorable

@signal gate what length do you use for your gronk again?

holy hell these things are tiny

I thought they were as tall as a normal locomotive, but it looks small next to that P class

and they're already tiny

[mental musk]

cute

||and smol||

[strange quiver]

BR diesels are weird

[mental musk]

for anybody familiar with anything from the continent, everything from BR is weird

And smol

[signal gate]

Gronk is 4/8

Horse Gronk

[strange quiver]

I'll copy that scale then 🙂

[mental musk]

https://live.staticflickr.com/1882/44499566421_9b04ddd478_b.jpg

Hungary, ex-BR series 86 electric loco operating with hoppers

[strange quiver]

little baby guy

I kinda wanna see an actual BR diesel in Australian just to see how they look next to a Tangara or something

[mental musk]

evan series 66 and 92 seem smol with continental stock

[strange quiver]

yeah, that's the downside of being the first to build railways I guess

you end up with a tiny loading gauge

[mental musk]

early adaptor weirdness

[strange quiver]

tbh I'm also kinda tempted to do the NSW 41 class

because I wanna do the funny "can't leave sydney because it catches fire" locomotive

[mental musk]

class 77 diesel loco be like

[strange quiver]

those didn't have issues with catching fire?

our 46's were based on them, and they were some of our most reliable locomotives

[mental musk]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_70_(diesel)

God, I mean class 70

self proppelled toaster

[strange quiver]

do they have fire issues?

three similar locomotives were built here, but they never had issues

[mental musk]

yeah thay did

[strange quiver]

interesting

well the Aussie ones never had them

and ours were built by novocastrians who spend more time at the pub nextdoor than making trains in the factory

[mental musk]

https://www.german-design-award.com/en/the-winners/gallery/detail/18285-aeroliner3000.html

https://www.german-design-award.com/fileadmin/GDA/gallery/2018/GDA2018-10887/productimage_large.jpg

[strange quiver]

oooh, that's novel

[mental musk]

indieed

and, just as the 4DD is ment to fit into british loading gauge!

[strange quiver]

also bad news, my office chair has falled apart, so I'm gonna skip drawing because I don't want a sore back

[mental musk]

whan an chinese shit...

do thay still make solid furniture nowerdays?

I don't think so

[strange quiver]

yeah, this was just a cheap one from officeworks

I'm just gonna go to Ikea tomorrow and get another cheap one

since I don't wanna deal with boomers on fb market place

[signal gate]

one of the essences of capitalism is summed up as

• you will spend more in 10 years on cheap office chairs

• than you would on a used Aeron that will last indefinitely, and is being sold off at clearance prices by a failed scaleup

but the Aeron will be £450 up front

[mental musk]

Do You know that joke about 2 engeneers designing washing machines?

[signal gate]

also I don't like Aerons they're not comfortable, but that's less relevant

[strange quiver]

it's $1500 in Australia 😦

I'd buy a nice one, but I also have legit no money atm, and I don't get paid until next thursday

[mental musk]

OK

So I will tell the joke

[signal gate]

oh yeah, I see on ebay au, $1800 AUD

[strange quiver]

yeah... gonna have to wait until I've got a bit more in the bank before I can do that

I still need to upgrade my pc and buy a new desk

being an adult is expensive 😦

[mental musk]

2 engeneers designing washing machines meet, from GDR and FRG (east and west Germany)

GDR engeneer: How You can design appiliances that DO NOT last for 20 years at least? People will coma angry to the factory

FRG engeneer: How You can design devices that DO last for at least 20 years? The factory will go bankrupt

[strange quiver]

it's true :3

[signal gate]

https://kingsofficefurniture.co.uk/products/used-herman-miller-aeron-graphite-standard

[mental musk]

nah it is ugly

[signal gate]

UK has a London-centric scale up environment with a high failure rate

and it's quite geographically easy to move chairs around our small distances

[mental musk]

I would love to have one like this

https://extrahome.pl/galerie/f/fotel-prezesa-kancelarii_7705.jpg

but possibly with higher back

[strange quiver]

yeah, sydney doesn't really have that

I tried looking to see if there's and used furniture sellers, and there doesn't appear to be

[mental musk]

thay use chairs as barricades on roits?

or why the high faliure rate

[strange quiver]

I'd only get that if I could smoke cigars while working

but I also don't smoke 😦

[mental musk]

I also don't smoke, it is expensive, unhealthy for lungs and very addicting

tea is better

[strange quiver]

I just do heroin, much nicer

[steep echo]

Enjoyable though

I have a chair like this

[mental musk]

I consume about as much tea as an stereotypical brit

[strange quiver]

bloody... mentioned it to one of my friends that likes stealing things

[mental musk]

not bad, vertical back, seems good

[strange quiver]

and apparently she had one last week, but got sold it

[mental musk]

at least don't get that gaming shit

it is usually overpriced, and often low quality

[strange quiver]

that would destroy my back

[mental musk]

and it looks dreadfull

[strange quiver]

yeah, I'm just gonna go with what's comfortable

[mental musk]

I find chairs with vertical high backs the most comfortable for using at an computer

[steep echo]

I diagnose you with old

[strange quiver]

I'm 23 >:/

[mental musk]

wow, You are younger than me

[steep echo]

You’re younger than me

[mental musk]

computer chair is something other than let's say an airline seat.

At airlines the best chairs are the ones that recline, so you can sleep

at computer desk, The chair has to match teh layout of the keyboard mouse and monitor