#Ragins Train Sets
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yeah, that's why I have a separate MU coach too
that said, being able to sit and watch out the front of the 2000's was fun
also its better to let the player decide imo
goofy ass creatures
I probably should re-do the code for them in GOPs to be more realistic, because rn a 2 car set has both motor cars
ah, the best state 🙂
Hence why it'd be a variant option. Let people pick "Do you want custom-length, or do you want to quick-build a 4-set wagon"
you better be from one of the good parts of NSW btw...
horseshit, NSW is a corruption filled shithole
ah, that works
but anyway
you're saying that to someone who's career is in government 😦
tsk, yeah, using all that time to work on video game mods instead. Unbelievable (please don't stop).
just keep hoping I don't get a job 😦
Uni does start up again on the 2nd though
but It's legit only 2 days every 4 weeks
so...
Southerners…
Love the QR emus you’ve got in here
Very keen to run them on my next save
:/
good to hear
give me some time and I'll have some QR locomotives too >:3333
L + ratio + no Comengs
straya posting intensifies
idk why but that just made me realise QR basically didn't order anything from Comeng
only things would be the 3100 class, and technichally the 2170 class (although they were just rebuilt at a comeng factory by clyde)
Queensland worst state now, asked to leave federation
i don't mind the banana benders, it's WA that needs to up and fuck off
the remaining states in australia immediately go bankrupt
WA must stay
I want control over their goofy locomotives
N class is apparently more difficult than I realised, but it's not too difficult
biggest issue is that the greebles are assymetrical
but for the most part it's basically the same as an SD40, which I've already drawn
maybe the hood roof should meet the cabs?
I think that works better?
is that a bone?
yeah, I actually looked at your sprites to see how you did it :3
I don't need too much, irl the chassis goes to platform height
tried messing with the flared radiators like on that class 70 and idk if it works
🤔
okay I think this works
nice, got that shading in there to emphasize the shape
it's the one thing I'm always so impressed by with andy's sprites
yeah, it's why I shamelessly copy him 😛
Good strat
also, it's night and day between my current N class and the PGT era one
god it's so bland 😦
Yeah, flat with shading vs actual texture
yeah 😦
I think it's possibly still a bit too 'crunchy' but it might be just seeing it so zoomed in
I little bit, but I can always touch it up before I do the liveries
I prefer a flatter look a lot of the time, but yeah it’s possible to go too far either way
There are a few liveries I’ve rushed over the years that are basically just solid blocks of colour
I find that adding texture can sometimes impact the shape negatively or forces you to go with lighter or darker shades to force visual differentiation so it’s a tricky balance for some models
Depends on the shape though - add texture to steam trains or tanker wagons and you can VERY quickly ruin the shape of the boiler/tank by adding texture - whereas for a very block EMU you can get away with more for sure
yeah, it's a balancing act
the way I tend to do it is if I can zoom out, and still see the outline of the train, it's good
and if it looks too flat up close, then add more detail
@strange quiver got 2CC Cargo wagons with Cargo Recolours working >:3
oh no
now I have no excuse not to do my own freight wagons now 😦
Here's the steps I took:
- Grabbed this recolour.pnml from JP+ (https://github.com/EmperorJake/JPengines/blob/modular/src/recolour.pnml)
- Used the animated fire sprites for the cargo load texture
- Used this snippet of code
switch (FEAT_TRAINS, SELF, sw_5_PLANK_WAGON_getwagon, STORE_TEMP(CB_FLAG_MORE_SPRITES | PALETTE_USE_DEFAULT, 0x100)) {
return sw_5_PLANK_WAGON_randomtexture;
}
switch (FEAT_TRAINS, SELF, sw_5_PLANK_WAGON_recolour_load, STORE_TEMP(switch_generic_recolour(), 0x100)) {
return sw_5_PLANK_WAGON_cargocheck;
}
switch (FEAT_TRAINS, SELF, sw_5_PLANK_WAGON_compose, getbits(extra_callback_info1, 8, 8)) {
0: return sw_5_PLANK_WAGON_getwagon;
return sw_5_PLANK_WAGON_recolour_load;
}```
There's probably (definitely) room for improvement on this code snippet but this should get you started when you do your wagons
the purple range is particularly useful for recolouring
it's easy on the eye and has nice contrast with everything else
yee, that's the colour I was planning on using
since I know I'm not gonna use them anywhere else
one thing I'm gonna have to do it probably modify the sprites to change depending on the cargo type tho
I'm using the fire sprites since it stands out a lot and also doubt I'll be using it
e.g. a coal style hopper loaded with iron ore will be visually filled less due to iron ore being denser
but aaa, future problem for future me
a problem for the AI in future
at this zoom level, you will find you never care about that detail 😛
there's already a density setting on cargo
FIRS makes acid tankers deceptively heavy IIRC
I'll have to play with that then
what I'm thinking I could do is that an IRL 'coal hopper' might be able to load up to 100t of coal, or 100t of iron ore, it's just loaded lower as a way to visually show the different densities
but IRL ore cars would be designed for the higher loads, so that can fill up with iron ore and might be able to carry 100t in a smaller car, but might top out at 60-70t of coal due to lack of volume
pretty much
I'll have to play around with it when I do it
I guess I'll do an ore car and coal hopper at the same time to test it
I think FIRS leaves all 'tons' cargo at 1t = 1t
I'll see how it works out then
for my freight cars I'm gonna try and do IRL capacities where possible
so it won't be like iron horse where you have standard capacities for each generation of wagon
IRL coal hoppers can carry a ridiculous amount of coal 😦
Also I'll need to work out how to do liveries so aaaaa
RL capacities 🙂
I'm not gatekeeping them, but you open yourself up to minmax players
and their feedback
and it's a lot more deciding things
minmax players are absolutely the worst for feedback
You could do it with NML couldn’t you?
Switch on cargo type and don’t use the most-full sprite for those cargoes
they're great for finding broken
Mate try making a RL set
“Technically the pantograph is 12.7cm wider on the /7 than the /6” etc
Like bro this is a 30-80cm/pixel scale
A solid 50% of my feedback responses are “you’re right but you’d never be able to see the difference”
GPT that
also one of the delightful things, having been around Foamer forums for years, they're often wrong
limpet adherence to facts continues even if there's a misunderstanding, or wrong context
tbf I could just ignore them :3
or I could just include a toggle for that
"RL capacities or Iron Horse Style"
actually, I might do that, then server owners can set it up the way they want, and then it's balanced against stuff like Iron horse if people want to play with them together for some reason
yee, it shouldn't be too complex
I love people like that
my other favourite is the people who hear of something they're not familiar with, and then just assume I'm making it up
I had a guy who said I didn't know what I was talking about because I mentioned a long distance version of the hunter railcar in my last video, and that it was never planned
which must be news to UGL who made the trains, and designed a long distance version in a report that I have sitting on my desktop >:/
yeah
I just move on, I'll get my satisfaction when I show off the cool stuff they don't believe is real >:3
I think it's important to be picky about who's feedback you actually value. You try and appeal to everyone you'll make something that appeals to noone.
I do appreciate that about andy's work, it's not for everyone, it doesn't need to be.
I know
ultimately what I make is designed to work for the games I play, all else is secondary 🙂
hey it's my more wisened and enlightened version of 'tell people to fuck off' which was how the Aegir of yore behaved 😛
maybe if I feel like being mean I will go that route :3
some of the times I wanted to say 'fuck off', I considered the feedback, maybe saw something in it I hadn't seen before
adjusted the grf
sometimes it's a shit suggestion but for solid reasons
yeah, that's why it's best to listen if possible
but sometimes if it's really dumb or the person's really annoying you've gotta tell them to go away 🙂
yeah there's probably only like 20 people in this whole discord with good informed ideas or suggestions
I think it's fair to ignore the majority of the population here
is this from your experience working the servers? 🙂
my favorite is the person who's been playing the game for like 10 years without being involved in any of the community stuff, so they think they're the Master God Kings of OTTD and they have some really good ideas about how to change stuff around here when they find the forums or the discord
and it's all stuff that has been tried before and didn't work at all
yeah that's definitely part of it lol
sounds about right :/
“Guys I have a great idea, what about push pull? I bet nobody’s thought of that before!”
Yeah that’s mostly where I fall - I’m primarily making it for me because I want to use it, but it’s nice to have others enjoy it
I have some basic philosophies about the set (it’s fixed consist for MUs, it has to at least have run on UK rails even if using a little artistic license) but beyond that I’m happy to take most feedback on board and fix any minor bugs or quirks as long as it’s not a ridiculous amount of time needed
yeah fair
tbh idk what the philosophies behind my sets are, they keep changing
"add everything and do not stop"
The ADHD approach. “Ooh shiny thing I just thought of” x 1000
are you describing r/openttd again? 😛
r/openttd is a lost cause hahah
It's the most "cba" I've ever felt about anything
Reddit in general is just bad now
Some communities are still good, some have totally gone to shit
Why? I don't use it but it didn't seem bad from what I've seen
It rarely contributes to good content and represents the lowest common denominator of topics most of the time
How so?
I disagree with that a bit. Sure it's not often super in-depth, but it's a great gateway for new players who might not find the forum or this Discord so easily
Sure, by being for beginners you do tend to find it's usually basic questions, but that's valuable to the community too
I've never gotten anything out of it but sure haha
lets not derail this thread too much
And means they're clogging up the "power user" spaces less....
Ah yeah, forgot which thread I had open
@strange quiver congrats on the release!
thanks, but I just realised I call them both CNAPS >:/
Lol, also I’d like it if you fix the purchase menu alignment of the MU trailers 😛
They look off compared to everything else 😛
yeah, that's something I'll fix soon-ish
it's from a dumb way of doing purchase sprites back when I did GNARTS that's just carried over 😦
God, pretty comprehensive list now. I’m going to need to work out a new grf list for a game soon I think 🤔
well when do you, feedback is always appreciated 😉
Bananas updates the listing in the content downloader when you update the metadata right?
because I did that for the description of both sets and it hasn't updated seemingly
I'm guessing it just takes a while
guess we'll find out then
Looked fine enough in bananas
yeah, it seems to have been fixed now
decided to do the A/B class instead
one change I think I'll make from the NA set is I'll include the class designation in the description
I wanna use model designations since some locos were shared between railways here, but had different classes (e.g. the SAR 930 class and NSW 44 class both being ALCO DL500s)
but most people probably don't know the model designation, so I think this is a good way of working around it I guess?
maybe I should change class to representing or something?
Oceanian, btw
oh god damnit
okay, code done, typo fixed, now it's livery time
idk what went wrong with V/line in the 2000s but this livery is genuinely horrid
Also should I move the A class from the passenger category to mixed traffic?
IRL it was designed for high speed passenger trains, but it did go on to work freight trains too
it's probably fine, I can always move it later, and there's nothing stopping someone from running it on a freight train anyway
A66 my beloved
friend shaped :3
B class locos done
and the A class too I guess
banked ids for each loco so any loco can have basically any livery, although I'm not gonna do that, since I don't think it'll be as neccesary for this set
but a B class in a NZ or QR livery is possible!
trying to do one of our goofy boxcabs before bed
does this look right for a 422 class?
here's the blueprint for comparison
looks better with the cab and the like lowered, and the roof shading adjusted
the slight curve down of the roof near the cab ends is a pain to match
I think copying the windows that Andy did for his Hymek also helps
goofy goobers
N/Z Types done
I don't have anything in the PTV livery, so I'm just using a freightcorp 422 class
also I included NSW liveries for more variety
much better
that is extremely orange
they were very orange irl :3
im not sure about the most orange pixel but that could be me being picky
it looks too red
i mean the first pixel on each row of pixels on the carriage roof
there's really not much I can do to change it tbh, since this is all company colours
don't think so tbh
I generally use all of the CC colour spectrum for my sprites tho
could be how our monitors show colour idk
this has all 8 shades i think
out of curiosity could you send me your grf
i wanna see how it looks on my end
sure
thanks
what is the carriage called?
Z-Type
I'm also using the NewCC set, so my company colours might be slightly different
xd
yeah thats how your stuff looks to me
i wanna see my set with the newcc grf now
give it a go, I tend to put it in all my games
kst scandinavian trains
or something idk
(i made it but forgot how i named it)
the version on bananas is really outdated though
this version is 35 minutes old
ah fair, I'll take a look
it is a scandinavian train set with stuff drawn by me, brick and meja, but ive already added hungarian stuff to it, yugoslav stuff is getting added, german, belgian, im even going to redraw the whole sbb set in my style
so scandinavian isnt really accurate i guess
no
it has real liveries but every livery has a 2cc option and an inverted version
the main focuses will be scandinavia and switzerland
ah, fair enough then
real liveries are using varients and 2cc is in refits
it has a unique scale but it works well enough with the sbb set
fair fair, well best of luck with it 🙂
thanks))
been working on it for a few years on and off, it started as a branch of 2tall2tyler's danish train set which i commisioned
ah, fair enough then :3
like this
proud of it tbh
you should be, they're pretty good sprites imo
If I could afford to live in Sydney, this is what my house would look like
Apparently the mystery would have been solved if I looked at wikipedia more >:/
it's unsourced, but it warrants more research
Oops, all GM class
I shouldn't have decided to include Pilbara locomotives
I stg researching them is a pain because there's no info, and there are so many rebuilds
UGL rebuilt a bunch of old ALCO C636 into C36-7s >:////
why
The Pilbara has like two people, who cares smh
I'll care 😦
they're not wrong
Damn
and I thought infra projects in India are shit
oh it's a driverless tram system
guess it has teething problems?
The metro is
The CBD light rail was just slow
Thought this was cool to share
Old American rail ads
nice
I love them :3
Amtrak in GNALPS universe...
Amtrak in AI art hallucinations lol
Besides amtirak im kinda surprised at how good these look
I do kinda like those ideas
I use the new AI Test Kitchen from Google. 100 Free Daily creations, only signup:https://aitestkitchen.withgoogle.com/pt
The quality is really good. Only the name in ones still strange. I as been think in how some alternate history Amtrak stuff could be.
I might give it a look then, can't hurt to use it for ideas
also, I've been busy so I've haven't worked on anything, but I've decided to do the 82 and 90 class locos
posting this here so I come back to it, because I have to go work on something else for a bit :3
I think AI still struggles with locomotives a bit, since every time I try and get it to generate an "Australian" locomotive it generates a european design
it really doesn't seem to understand what Australian locomotives look like
even when specifying a "NSW 90 class" is spits out some American/European designs
Bottom right of first pic is literally this LMAO
yeah, which is very far from what I asked for
I don't think there are two locomotives that look more different
recently GPT has been able to explain to me why the image generators aren't doing so well for lots of subjects
it really does just come down to training data
they need a lot of manually classified images, preferably with labels directly on the significant features
there are a limited number of large training sets available, so the image generators are tending to be limited to what's in those
I guess they might be learning also now from the prompts they're being given by real users
but that means they're probably 90% pseudo-porn
yeah, I'll have to take your word on that since this isn't something I'm knowledgeable about
we'll see if it gets better, because it'd be really good for coming up with ideas
well they do tend to hallucinate :3
every so often I get it to write a script about something I'm doing research on, and it always includes so much nonsense
I use it like a subeditor, I give it drafts and ask it to improve
I guess that works for it
Reminds me of the one train from rolling line
which one?
ah fair, well they're both Australian locomotives :3
although the NR class is built by UGL, and the 82 was built by their competitor Clyde Engineering
dual gauge?
got the 82 class drawn, and now I'm working on the 90 class
I think this looks good, but idk if the greebles are good?
the 90 class greebles are pretty flat IRL so I guess it'd just kinda look like that?
they also have this weird cover at the rear for whatever reason, and idk how I'd go about doing that
Even the american design ones, i as trie make something electric inspired by GM6C, and they make box like. At least, when i trie make what a Stadler Eurodual in North American style would look´s like, i think came very good design.
Eh
yeah, it's not perfect
82 and 90 class done
did them in the SRA scheme too, which they never wore, but they look good in it
what if Australian National bought some too?
I need to do more goofy liveries
or just AN stuff
Looking good
Wonder if the trains from Just Cause 4 would fit in one of your modpacks as a near future train ( 2020s-2030s )
There's even three liveries ( Civilian, Black Hand, and Army Of Chaos )
Might be a bit too outlandish tho
I still need to do the N class 😦
I should probably loop back to them
They can at least serve as ideas :3
fair enough
I know you said you're currently taking a break from North American themed stuff, but I thought I would leave this here as another livery idea you can do for the Stadler KISS, this one being an Amtrak Surfliner themed one
You could also do a Coaster or Metrolink one to go along with it
dw, it's already on the list :3
Anyways, switching away from North American rolling stock and locomotives, I would love to see you make the XR Class locomotives along with the XRB units too if you haven't considered doing them yet
oh btw, does anyone have any ideas for more electric locomotives for the Australian loco pack?
here's my working document
the current electric loco roster is rather empty
😍
such a strange livery
Purple and Orange are the best
I don't agree but sure :3
the 2000s era of Vline liveries are just boring/bad imo
agreed, I love those Vline liveries
Shouldn’t red be cc1?
FAKE NOHAAAAB 😮
It doesn't need to be?
Is this already in?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_45_(later_71)_class_locomotive
The 45 class (later the 71 class) was a class of mainline electric locomotive built in-house in 1952 by the New South Wales Department of Railways' Chullora Railway Workshops. With only a single locomotive in the class, 4501 was renumbered 7100 in October 1961, which freed up the number range for the 45-class diesel locomotives.
would be cool 😦
yeah, and the early draft designs of it
ah lol
I knew it looked familiar
yee :3
yeah...
which is why I've gotta make some up
or 'import' some (make australian versions of foreign electric locomotives)
86 class done, in both Co-Co and Bo-Bo-Bo versions
They tried to pull the same shit here in Buenos Aires
They wanted to build an "ART" which is just a lobg battery bus that runs on it's own road
please tell me this is satire
Unfortunately the Brisbane "Metro" is real
Yes, it’s satire. Same site that gave us #1019109703453790298 message
Good stuff though 😄
Classic, it worked in America too
President Obama's proposed high-speed train system will be replaced with a fleet of buses that will rocket along highways at speeds up to 165 mph.
Xiamen BRT is the real BRT, others are just awful
Surprised no one ( from my knowledge ) has made a brightline mod yet
The North American extra zoom set has them
But not sure if they have these future trains
I plan on doing them in future :3
I'm just working on uni/youtube stuff atm
oooh nice
doing research for a video
Maybe I should re-code the Comeng and Tangara in GOPS to be able to work together...
thats the one off 4D, not a regular tangara
I know, but in GOPS the Tangara and 4D are the same
considering it only happened once, i doubt it would be necessary
if there is a refit option for a 4D, could make it only work with that refit?
yh, that's probably doable
based based based based based
As in, with a livery refit?
Or a variant?
variant
Ah okay. Because livery refit limitation probably wouldn't have worked
Not conveniently, at least
yee, this is why I stick with variants
they're so much easier
also, just found out about her
apparently in 1924 WAGR bought a small electric locomotive from Metro-Vick for moving coal cars from East Perth Yard to a nearby power station
into the loco pack it goes...
All the electric infrastructure for one locomotive on one line?
kinda?
Hm
a metrovick catalogue I found indicated this was more for a long-term electrification project that never got started
but 600v DC is really low
so idk
Operating costs won’t be high being at the power plant
it's something I'll have to look into
Definitely
Saturday 14th September is the day of the 2024 European Tram Driver Championships! And because I know my audience, I thought you might like to know there is an OFFICIAL LIVE STREAM ON YOUTUBE starting at 11am. Tbh this video is more a public service announcement than anything else.
OFFICIAL LIVE STREAMS HERE:
English - https://www.youtube.com/w...
I wanna go watch that
Is this still being worked on?
Looks nice!
it is, I've just been distracted working on other projects :3
TGVweb's overview of the Texas TGV, a 1990s high speed rail project
based on French TGV technology in the Texas Triangle.
TGV proposal in Texas?
But doesn't Texas already have a proposal for a Shinkansen line?
How are they gonna have both that and a Shinkansen
Those are two completely different types of high speed rail systems
This was from the 1990s and never implemented
Great for an “it could have been” scenario
If we do that we need an ICE and an X2000 in Amtrak livery
Already on the list :3
You know I'd have to ;3
got sent the original elevation drawing of the Comeng Tangara proposal
and aa, it looks so good
Oh that’s cool
it's so good
I need to do more videos on unbuilt trains
so more people send me blueprints
ooooh
A friend actually showed me that design a while back
iirc he did a drawing of it too
ooooh, lots of wierd european designs :3
is that a steam locomotive?
YES
The EP23 (high-speed (160km/h) version of the ET22) existed only as 1 prototype
The bogeys were the same as in ususal ET22 which made an snake-like motion which was considered very unsafe in highspeed operation
It is said that the drivers were scared to drive this thing!
I could imagine
The project was closed, becouse redesigning the bogeys was considered too expensive
(BTW EP08 runs 140km/h instand of planned 160km/h becouse of the same reason)
(Thay decided to manufacture it with snake-motion bogeys and just lower the operational speed)
Look at here
ooooh, strange
dear god how did you get that
nah, I don't do crime for now
friend sent it to me, it was originally posted on the Historic electric traction facebook page
it's currently in the John Dunn collection which is owned by the Loftus tramway museum
OSINT?
@strange quiver
You can find suprisingly accurate drawings and informations on the widly-aviavable-internet, but searching may take some time
I feel like OSINT would be a weird way to describe it
but I do just know people
also yh, I do go through books and archives occassionally
Indeed, not anything can be found on the internet...
But eg. missing deminisions can be estimated on the basis of size of elements (or other vehicles) which are on the same photograph
(Yes, I do 3D modeling)
@strange quiver
true
but I also know the dimensions for a lot
the pantograph isn't always something to go off, since they're not standardised
and you can't use it as a reference unless you know the specific model
track gauge is something more relevent
true, but that's only usable if you have the front elevation
yeeeee
CC7100
Just check the diffrent shapes of the cabines
oh neat
super hans?
Prior to 1990, we had two transcontinental rail routes in Canada
Since then, Banff, Calgary, Medicine Hat and Regina have been cut off from passenger rail service
it's a big country eh
Why?
BTW
Does Canada still use open section hard sleepers (platzkart like in Russia)?
Budget cuts to via rail, our passenger rail operator
That I'm not sure about
I love those old budd coaches 😦
We still have them today
The Canadian. It's Canada's most iconic rain journey. Join me for 3 nights aboard this silver bullet. From exploring the majestic mountain landscapes, to the Canadian cities shaped by the train. From dining in the dining car to the elegant grand railway hotels built over century ago that those same dining cars were named after. Have you ever tak...
I recently found out about a new model railroad museum that opened at Sea Shore Trolly in Kennebunkport Maine. Construction of this layout started in 1989 and gradually expanded to 900 square feet of space. The set features over 3000 feet of track and 500 pieces of passenger cars, freight cars and locomotives. The layout was brought to Kennebunk...
neat :3
also, spent today filming trains for a video and I'm dead
I think someone stole this guys target plate (it defo wasn't me)
We are at King Street Station in San Francisco, where, based on the old schedule (prior to the new revised schedule taking effect 9/21/2024), we see CalTrain Train 144, the local to San Jose Diridon. Train 144 was the last passenger train pulled by an F40 to depart south out of King Street Station. This train was pulled by F40PH-2CAT 908 "Redw...
And just like that, the end of an era on the Peninsula Corridor
Wait a minute. Since CalTrain is retiring their F40's after this and TRE's own are ex-Amtrak, doesn't this make Metra the last remaining operator of their original F40PH fleet in the US?
Oh wait- I forgot about Tri-Rail
And MBTA too
MBTA retired their original F40s several years ago. They are still running F40PH-3C models with a separate HEP generator
tbh I should probably give atrain a go
It is an very good game series!
List of fictional trains in japanese release of A-train 8
The european ones sadly were cut from export versions
Yeah
But as the game series was not an hit on export markets it would be great if You had somebody that speaks japaese for help whan looking up screenshots
BTW
Somebody is makin an A-train3/4 inspired baseset!
Howdy folks,
Finally, on September 21st, the new @caltrain EMUs made by Stadler took over the Peninsula corridor between San Francisco and San José Diridon. Justin was on board to take a look at these brand-new trains that will boost transit in the Bay Area!
Many thanks to Justin for filming on my behalf :)
Enjoy, and don't forget to like an...
New electric trains in California
yee, I saw
I need to get around to drawing them, but I've been distracted working on my own videos 😦
Hopefully since CalTrain has made the switch to a mostly electric fleet apart from the trains that will be used on the Gilroy extension, this makes other commuter rail systems see the benefits of electrification
Maybe FrontRunner could be next since Stadler's facility is based in Utah and they own most if not all of their track
hopefully, I wouldn't mind doing a frontrunner livery
Whan an public beta release?
there's already a version of the US passenger and loco pack on bananas
just look for CNALP/CNAPS
just search in the in game content downloader
yeah, PGT was the original project I was working on, but it's not abandoned
This is gonna be an BIG set like 2cc...
the sets I've posted about here are what I'm working on now
well it's multiple sets, but yh :3
GOPS on its own is already massive, and it's not done
What game are these from?
they are mock ups/prototypes drawn for real life before the final product
Damn
The RegioSprinter looks like an photograph of an real prototype
Industral Giant 2
AT least the last 2 are fictional
Also some are partially fictional eg. 4 axle version of PRR E44
yeah, it's sad 😦
Great American Streetcar Scandal by GM
Isn't that mentioned in the movie Who framed Roger the Rabbit?
Most cities in North America had streetcars from the 1880s-1950s
Yes there is a conspiracy claiming gm bought out streetcar systems only to tear them out in order to sell more buses
Other factors include their deteriorating trackage and the unwillingness of private operators in fixing them or the perception that streetcars are old and slow
Problems of capitalism...
The destruction of streetcar systems was kind of a global phenomenom in the developed world. My home city of Buenos Aires was once known as the city of trams and nowadays only two lines (which weren't even part of the original system) and one historic tour remain. Very sad 😦
Btw I've been playing with GOPS for a while and wanted to thank you a lot for it. It's great to have a 2cc set alongside IH.
Nw, thats one of the things I wanted too, which is why I made it
It's honestly so useful because it allows you to feel a bit more free in relation to theming
So yeah, very cool
Thats good to hear, because thats what I was going for
I just need to finish it 😦
Meanwhile, the last Indian city with a working tram system ( Calcutta ) aka the city I live in is ripping out the tracks once and for all
rest in peace trams, people will come to realisation much much later
That's so sad, I hope they find their way back into the world's cities
been working on a video on fast rail in Australia, and apparently the V/Line N class locos were designed to operate with the 160kph R type coaches...
which means they could have operated up to that speed...
maybe when I do the N class properly I'll gear it for that
also it's quite good that I'm able to use GOPS sprites in my videos
they come in really handy when showing off train formations
Haha nice
Use OTTD for B roll
I legitimately use the game Rolling Line to animate rail industry training videos in my real job (with permission). Haven’t found a use for OpenTTD yet but I’ll keep trying. 😛
I have before! for my video on the ESR I used it to show off COMERT
originally the plan was to talk about different train types to show off GOPS, but I dropped that because I had access to a fair bit of real footage
I was going to include a section on un-built trains which might be better suited, but that's a future project
tbh I'd be tempted, it's just a lot of the stuff I show off isn't in it :/
one issue I had for this one was getting a photo of the ass end of a series 1 S set motor car, and I tried using Trainz22 to show it off, but they only have the series 2-4 ones so that was a no-go
might be something I'll have to look into for future tho
Also I've got this timeline I made for a video that I really like :3
You have an Youtube channel?
yee, it's linked in my discord profile
@strange quiver
Hmmmm
It apears that some problems are worldwide...
-delating sleeper trains
-dreadfull urban development by greedy developter
-destroying heritge
-dreadfull (f-ing) demoliberal politicians and thair ideas
Greetings from Poland!
Yeah, I love how universal so many problems are :/
I agree
though the dismantling of tram lines where I live started with the communists
that is funny
Shindai Tokkyu (Sleeper Express) is nearly gone in Japan
And loco-hauled passenger trains are experiencing reduction in China
sunrise exp still running or not?
Running, but that EMU is very old now (started in 90s) and may face obsolescence
LOL
In Poland train from 90s can be considered almost brand new
But what I prefer is this, not sunrise ones
The art style of sunrise ones make me feel “too luxurious to be lively”
Nice photo!
To be specific, this design is much more lively than sunrise one
Ticket?
I do not know japanese language...
Yes, it is ticket. But notice the red part on the top right, it is the symbol of this train
I don't think even one country in Europe uses seprate logotypes for diffrent limited express train lines...
I just mean, I very much like this
Up until a few years ago we had 100 year old trains operating on Buenos Aires subte
Nowadays I think the oldest EMUs are around 50 years old though they will be replaced soon
me too
http://kitekinet.jp/pen/HM/gaku.html here you go
oh btw, I'm gonna have a fair bit more time next week, and I'll probably work more on GOPS
has anyone got any suggestions or bugs?
I spotted a few (such as the push-pull trains no increasing in weight with more cars, or the MU car expiring), so I know there's more
apparently all the MUs i've coded have that same bug, which is annoying >:/
oh also has anyone noticed all the goofy comments I include in each trains description? I think they're fun :3
Here's a new proposed-but-never-built train for you, courtesy of @tall merlin 😄
Pennsylvania Railroad high-speed EMU, with a front similar to the GG1 and a beaver tail observation car at the back.
Was even a prototype made?
Just drawings
i would have said it looks more french
For me it looks like the DB VT11.5
It could have been…
Beat him to it, its already on the list for the NA pack :3
I even started drawing it but couldn't get it to look right
Haha we were talking about it last night and I’d never heard about it. Not surprised that you have, though. 🙂
Take all my money 💸
📍 General Store Railyard (Akihabara Station, Showa Dori exit)
#tokyo #japan #akihabara #samishomexjapan
these probably wouldn't serve much practical use, but they're interesting ig?
Track equipment is not a train 🙂
they're technically converted speeders, but they're used as railcars on a line in BC
BBC article from 2014 describing a trip on it
Serves a remote area, mostly Indigenous, left otherwise unserved after the closure of the bc rail service in 2002
I might include those, maybe as a gronk or something :3
oooooh, it's not really soemthing I'd do in any of my sets tho
yeah, but it does somewhat resamble some of the very first french diesel locos
La 262 BD 1 est une locomotive Diesel-électrique (double articulée) du type 2'Co2'+2'Co2' pour trains de vitesse, construite en France en 1937.
Deux locomotives ayant la même disposition d'essieux mais différentes dans leur motorisation Diesel furent commandées en 1935 par les Chemins de Fer PLM : la 262 AD 1 (4 Diesel de 6 cylindres M.A.N.) et ...
true I suppose
also, I was in the mood for drawing, so I drew an interurban :3
it's based on the carbon steel design for the U-set trains, but it'll be introducted in the 1930s, since they were considering electrification back then
just the war got in the way
tomorrow I'll do liveries and the actual U-sets
also I went to the transport heritage expo today and me and my friend took some cool pics (I haven't gotten mine off my camera yet)
they had W3 there with it's tulloch double deckers, which I should probably draw and add as an option for putting in red sets
and apparently I didn't get any photos of W3 which is annoying >:/
This illustrates the decline of passenger rail in North America
Cincinnati in the 1950s and 2022
yeah 😦
liveries done >:3
In game these arrive in the 1930s, so irl they'd probably be gone by the 80s
but I guess they could have made it into Cityrail's fleet
U-sets done, idk what else to do with their liveries since IRL they were just in plain stainless steel
Love how the last train resembles via rail rdc’s
I guess it kinda does
althought it was actually based on the liveries used by 620/720 railmotors in Cityrail hunter line services
and the Vsets are done >:3
In the early alpha version there was also an passenger (160km/h) electric loco lacking express coaches...
But you could attach MU trailers (but with that loco thay had an silly capacity) that used similer sprites
what are you refering to?
there was/is an early beta of generic trains aviavable in the ingame downloader
That loco was named like big thinker or so...
ooooh, yh
that was based on the NZ EF Class
The graphics looked nice
but theyre not related to the V sets at all?
yee, I'll redo them at some point
wasen't the default (the one that was used while in depo or whan attatched to an locomotive (not front MU motor coach) MU trailer sprites based on an V set?
Think so?
tbh i dont remember
The graphics were good, but the parameters...
Not only all trains had placeholder running costs
But also the MU trailer capacity whan hueled by locomotive (as there were no high speed passenger coaches) was like 30 persons for such an large vehicle
I’m going to use this in a future North American scenario and imagine them operating these
Alongside the North American trains
I guess they kinda fit in?
re-did my Tulloch SMR railmotor sprite
I added more liveries too, so now there's a basic stripe, SRA and Cityrail livery
IRL these trains only wore the SMR livery (2nd one from the top), and were destroyed not long after being built
but it makes sense that if they survived, they would have made it into the SRA's/Cityrail's fleet
I think some of the other railmotors are gonna need a rework tbh, but the Craven's one are probably the most in need
also if anyone can spot any sprites that stand out as terrible, lmk, because remastering sprites is pretty easy
you sure you dont want to do the ADK properly?
Tulloch seams to have been drawn in another graphics style...
wdym?
how so?
irl one coach is a lot shorter than the other
can You show photo?
I wonder just WHY?
Perheps rebuild of unrelated classes of non-self-proppelled coaches into MU?
Yh, but a few others are like that too
They look about the same length to me
Either way, I'll keep them the same just for gameplay purposes
Since I want them to be modular like all the other MUs
good idea!
no way!
One coach is 1/3rd shorter than the second one!
more like 1/4, but yh
I wonder why they did them that way, that seems really odd?
Thay hired an druk russian to design this?
you never know
kinda tempted to make the cursed early XPT interurban design
with the rear driving trailer
I don't think the code should be too hard
god my old XPT sprite needs a redo aaa
also, this one is weird, because it has a stainless steel power car, while the final XPT and BR Class 43 were carbon steel
it also lacks a radiator down the side, which the XPT and Class 43 had, instead having a larger one on the roof
I'm hoping a positive one :3
It was the Brisbane to Sydney
Casino to Sydney actually
I was supposed to get the Syd - Brisbane back but one of the power cars broke so we wouldn’t make it over to QLD before morning services started
We had a 3 am transfer to coaches at Casino instead
yeah, that sounds like the XPT
they tend to break down often, but they also have some of the highest workloads of any passenger train in the world
What do you mean?
Yeah I read up on them they have a very intense roster
iirc most high speed trains do 250-300k kilometres per annum
XPTs average 500k per annum
Other than Australia being bigger than European countries is there a reason for that?
yeah, basically every day on since 1982
there aren't many of them, and they do basically every long distance service on the east coast
there's only 58 passenger cars and 19 locomotives
and they have to cover Sydney to Dubbo, Melbourne and Brisbane
of which each service is 2-3 trains per direction per day
How far apart are they?
Melbourne is ~600km, Dubbo is ~450km and Brisbane is ~800km
That is quite long for a corridor service
The xplorer to Canberra was decent
that's just what Australia's like :3
I think I saw a video once of someone taking one of these and remarking the early arrival time
and its especially impressive considering the XPTs were originally designed for Sydney to Wollongong, Newcastle and Canberra services
4 am before the commuter trains arrive
they were never designed to go as far as they do, it was only later they started doing it
Yeah that’s Brisbane by the sounds of it
legit the XPT is probably one of the most impressive trains ever designed imo
Here in North America we have trains crossing the continent over several days
we do too, but they're still loco hauled
Oh yes saw a documentary on the ghan
also I'm doing a video on HSR in Australia, and the worst part about the XPT program was it nearly went further
But you wouldn’t see these on our long distance trains
there were plans for Melbourne-Adelaide XPT services
well... Amtrak did enquire about buying XPTs in the 80s
so you guys could have seen them!
as in the QR ones? not to my knowledge
Yeah
but Specification 2542 appendix D which created the XPT did state that the PTC would consider tilt trains
however they were not prefered
there have been other tilt train proposals for NSW, but none got off the drawing board
there was even meant to be a tilt train double deck interurban for newcastle services, which I still need to add to GOPS
Oh that sounds cool
it is >:3
Wow never knew that
I’m sure these trains will only be used on corridor routes, not the long distance routes in the west
Sir, are you koalafied to be standing over the yellow line like that? 🐨
This un-bear-ably cute passenger found its way onto the platform at Casula station last week. While it took a self-guided tour of the station, a train guard notified the Securit...
we might as well let the koalas have casula
barely anyone uses that station anyways
I hate code >:/
spent like 2 hours trying to get the push-pull code to work the way I wanted, and I couldn't work out why I was having issues
turns out I needed to change one tiny bit of code >:/
I have a thumbnail to make for a video, and then after I'm finishing up liveries
maybe I'll do the X2000 after
tbh the X2000 would look cool in a candy livery
amtrak stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLO_efX6frg
RAILROAD MERCH. STORE: https://urlis.net/ftgr0exs
Our latest from the Jim Crosby collection has us standing on the platform at the South Elizabeth station on Amtrak's recently-acquired Northeast Corridor shooting everything imaginable. We catch triple-header GG1s in freight service cluding "Old Rivets"), Metroliners in both Amtrak paint and PC/...
Neat!
E60s!
old stremlined coaches still bearing old user colours!
GG1s and non-HEP version of E60s running with an generator van!
E44s! (Why the 2 loco set operates long hoods outside?)
Metroliners!
Do I see heavyweight coaches in the short consist with GG1? I know that some were vougly operated by Amtrack
is this your way at getting me to do more north american stuff? 🙂
just thought it was neat 🙂
well, it had the same effect
interurban XPTs done :3
post war interurban coaches done :3
"we have state rail candy at home"
He looks so happy
mixed double and single deck sets done :3
decided to finally code the tullochs as separate cars so now you can wack them into trains that they IRL worked with
yeah... hopefully
I'm tempted to do some high speed trains tbh
we'll see if I can be bothered to do them today, otherwise it'll have to wait until next week since I'm going camping
NSW R-type coaches done :3
also the answer to 'will I draw HSR before going camping' is no
got distracted doing coaches, realised I made a few mistakes, and then gave up 😦
Have a nice camping trip! 🙂
Yes have fun camping!
Amtrak to Mexico? Currently they only serve Canadian cities outside the US
thanks :3
camping was fun :3
and now I have uni work to do this week so aaa
oooh, that'd be cool to see
also I was thinking about the told tropic refurbishment set while I was away, and I'm tempted to take some of its near-future stuff, remaster it, and wack it into my sets for fun :3
but that's a future project, rn I've got a planning assessment to do. End of this week and I've got my bachelors >:3
seems the original author considers all his sprites public domain too, which makes it easy on my part https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=19435&start=100
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I'll still shout out the set tho, because tropic refurbishment set is one of the things that inspired me
the tropic refurbishment set was inspired by the OG Tropic Set which was made by Uzurpator who is Polish
He also made some sprites for the OG American Transition Set
Funnly the fictional EL15K future loco looks like an old russian electric locomotive!
Wel.. Good design is timeless! It would be great if we came back to simple, bloxy, brutalist designs of train exteriors
The current turboplastic is too... Turboactive and too angry...
ooooh neat
what's the EL15K? I can't find it in the set?
oh yh, that's a weird soviet thing
I could probably port some of the proposals from that set into my US stuff tho...
Sunset?
AKA CaliforniaHigh Speed Train
HSE-10 "Sunset"
AKA the Never Ending Story
I could, I'll have to bump it slightly more in the future though
maybe 2030s-2040s
since the last version of that set was 2007, and we're in 2024...
so what was nearfuture for them, is the past for us
Yeah...
Visions of technology of the future in games and movies often age dreadfully
(WHERE is my selfdriving car?)
in fiction 😦
I remember in 2009 when still in elementary school, I read an old magazine in their library that claimed by 2010 paper magazines will be no longer and we'll read everything online. Obviously a few months later we still had paper magazines so it didn't come to be
yeah... people used to be a lot more optimistic
the more everything changes the more everything stays the same
yeah 😦
"by 2015, PC will disappear, the chips will be planted into everywhere" -- 2003 Computer Magazines
all that post pc is SHIT
Do thay really thought we could eg. type long documents, use advanced spreadsheets, play advanced games, do 3d modeling, photoshop and control manufacturing lines from smart phones?
Not that crazy if you could run a desktop os and use mouse, keyboard and monitor but that of course assumes software won't become more demanding
getting around to fixing those coaches I munted the code for the other day
the top one has been fixed, now it has a diner and brake coach at both ends of the rake, while the one on the bottom is yet to be fixed
for some reason I just assumed coaches in Australia only had brakes on one end of a rake, but that doesn't make sense because they need to turn around
R-Types fixed, and now the Waddington interurban coaches are done :3
Ooooh
Funnily enough Tullochs offered a kestrel based locomotive to Commonwealth railways back in the day
So I'll have to put one in the loco pack
X2000 drawn :3
gonna do liveries now
I'm not gonna do it in the SJ liveries, but instead I'll put it in the XPT liveries to represent an alternate universe where countrylink actually bought the X2000
oh wow
its good
will be interesting to see how it compares in our sets
given ill be doing it too
yeah
if you do wanna use mine as a base, or as a refernce, you're more than welcome to btw
all good, nw
the russian TEP70 (which is manufactured till this day, but in an modernised form - TEP70BS) is based on the Kestrel
how about some Yank liveries?
It was trailed by Amtrak
it'll get them, but in the US pack
I know that an single expample operated in China
BTW
Line Hong-Kong <-> Canton seems to be an magnet for european stock...
X2000 and Lok2000 operated on this line
ER20s are based in Hong Kong and quite possible also operate there...
I wouldn't be suprised if french build locos 6Y1 and 6Y2 (analogues of series F for soviet railways, based on french CC7100 but AC powered) also operated there...
yeah
interestingly enough, Comeng even designed some cars for that line, but they never got off the drawing board
the Hong Kong Light rail uses vehicles designed and built by Comeng and Goninan though
which is strange to me...
it is strange that it is an streetcar line operating unidirectional vehicles on left hand traffic
the bidirectional double deck (like british busses) streetcars are weird too...
yeah, hong kong is just strange place
Singapore is even stranger...
For anyone from Europe Australia is strange too...
At lest the local wildlife looks beutifull (and is equely agressive...)
Is it true that there are snakes crawling literally everyhere?
No not really
I mean yes but no
The possum in my roof however is restless and craves blood
not really, I've seen a wild snack maybe once or twice in my life
the biggest threats are the birds
there's a group of plovers and crows that have claimed my backyard, and they're fighting the Kangaroos to see who has the right to rule it
I know that in New Zealand there are some parrots that have figured how to open an tourist's car's sunroof to get to the interior to get food LOL
the blue ones
Kea’s
very smart
oh that's just all parrots
they're concerningly smart
bloody sulfur crested cockatoos are known to destroy the facades of buildings for fun
god I hate doing push-pull trains because their liveries take so long to do aaa
in a better world, these would be real 😦
decided to make the VFT (don't question why I'm doing it at 2am, I've been ill)
I also used Andy's Alize sprite from Iron horse as a base, although I did modify it
the livery/design is based on this painting by Phil Belbin back in the 80s for Comeng
touched it up with a little bit of white to simulate the "VFT" text on the side
That’s rad
it's so good
its also so annoying that we came so close to building it, but it fell apart last minute 😦
I forgot to re-enable the pantograph layer >:/
thats sick
thinking of adding this to my current IH game
maybe I'll wait until the modern eras come around
you can if you want, most of the GOPS stuff won't break with future releases
I do need to add more liveries for the VFT though, since there was only one, since they didn't get built 😦
I would just use whatevers on nanners, I made it a prerequisite for myself aha
and Im still in the 1940s ish
that's fair, well it'll be a while before I post the next update
I'm gonna wait until the passenger coaches are more fleshed out
no worries, I'm doing a static era game but eventually once I finish it I wanted to do a 70s version of the map
could be neat to flesh out my IH rosters with some other 2cc trains with a similar vibe
well I'm sure my stuff would fill that role :3333
why it looks like an old dutch train?
it uses similar colours but I think thats the end of any similarities lol
you betcha
probably just the livery
Southern Aurora coaches done :3
Aurora?
The revolution made it to Australia?
wdym?
Southern Aurora was just the name of the Sydney-Melbourne Sleeper train back in the day
Aurora/Awrora was an battleship used by russian revolutionists
Aurora (Russian: Авро́ра, romanized: Avrora, IPA: [ɐˈvrorə]) is a Russian protected cruiser, currently preserved as a museum ship in Saint Petersburg. Aurora was one of three Pallada-class cruisers, built in Saint Petersburg for service in the Pacific. All three ships of this class served during the Russo-Japanese War. Aurora survived the Battle...
You haven't heard about it?
oh, I have
It is definitly on the top 10 most famous boats ever
I just didn't know that's what you were refering to
Although I see that the name was used also on other ships of unrelated designs and uses...
The history textbooks in china call it as "Afuleer", I still don't know how this translation come
most likely something lost in translation/transliteration...
Just as Japanese call Mazda Matsuda
And Koreans Hyundai Hyong-de
The Orient Express was a luxury passenger train service that began operation in 1883, connecting Paris to Istanbul. More than just a train, it symbolized the golden age of travel, offering opulence, adventure, and intrigue, all whilst enjoying plush ...
im only interested on what it will look like on the outside tbh
Oooh
I may or may not be looking into that for a side project...
also, had another job interview today, and came home wanting to finish the 44 class sprite I started work on last night
I don't care if they blow smoke like no tomorrow, I just want them back 😦
tbh with how badly old alco blow smoke, it'd be funny to code them so they all have giant black smoke clounds being emitted at all times
Comically large cloud
That’s great! Best of luck on your interview
thanks, it went well :3
also, sprite done
I'll do liveries later tonight or tomorrow, but rn I've gotta get ready because I'm doing an Australian moment (going to the pub)
Well deserved after your interview
aw i thought it would be more modern coaches
NSW liveries done on the 44 class :3
gonna do the SA/Australian National ones now
apparently the 930s only wore two liveries really
weren't tham just 44s on broad gauge bogeys?
Why thay were classed an seprate class?
pretty much
although the early 930s only had one cab
yee, I remember it too :3
It was aired in Poland too
re-did the silver fern, and now it looks so much better
it also better supports company colours now
previously it only had silver/yellow, and they were fixed
but now the yellow on the front is CC2, and I added a fun CC1 stripe on the side :3
Love these, specially the closest 2-car one.
thanks :3
really nice!
Comeng Railcar's redone (they're called the 1400 class in the last GOPS version, but they'll go to the brand name of "Railcar" in v7)
