it says "has confirmed that someone is planning to host a spring race"
#motorsports
heavy shuttle
lavish musk
heavy shuttle
heavy shuttle
what a dumb @ for a track
lavish musk
Welcome to America
heavy shuttle
does that mean no one has ever finished it tho
lavish musk
No
This is from the race i went to
I didnt record it but yeah this is when i went
heavy shuttle
ok so
why are they saying its too tough to tame when people have finished it and won it
š¤
daring nacelle
it hard because the high lane is the fastest but its a bumpy fucker and the corners arent the same
so it often catches out even experienced drivers
there's a term for this, the "darlington stripe"
which is when someone touches the wall here nad takes the paint off
lavish musk
Yeah
floral urchinBOT
āVitalā new LMDh prototype rules to be revealed in two weeks
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Remembering Michele Alboreto: F1 ace, Le Mans winner and good man
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Podcast: Tandy on Porsche's 2015 Le Mans success
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Insight: Whatās the future for the Le Mans 24h and WEC?
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keen bolt
Personally, I feel like Indianapolis, Charlotte, or Daytona would be fantastic choices when it comes time for the US to host the FIA Motorsport Games
lavish musk
Watkins Glen
keen bolt
The Glen is in the middle of nowhere though
Indianapolis, Charlotte, or Daytona are likelier for that reason
pure pecan
yikes
short vortex
Sponsorship money after this is likely to dry up and have some pretty big impacts across a lot of motorsports
The impact of the Great Recession hit a lot of racing pretty hard and this is likely to be worse than that
remote cove
didnt mercedes also leave like one or two years ago
limpid escarp
The question is how will the dtm continue with only bmw
pure pecan
wdym only bmw
i dont follow or know DTM
how does it work
is BMW the only supplier?
lethal yacht
No
Well now it is
In 2019 Aston Martin were there until the end of the year
The year before mercedes pulles out
Audi and BMW were the two makes for this year
But Audis cancelling theirs now too
DTM has to get some new manufacturers
Id like McLaren ngl
flat vortex
or they could switch to other regs (tcr/gt4/gt3)
which i think is the most likely scenario if dtm comes back
lavish musk
lethal yacht
Is it like common for Britain to just come up with random motorsports
like I thought lawnmower endurance was unique
so does American Modified racing, I donāt even think Nascar fans even knew of that
tacit garden
This absolutely will be the end of the DTM.
They did want to introduce a new series called "DTM trophy* using GT4 cars, IIRC they already had 25 entries, if they want to go a very simple way they could just rename that to DTM. While GT4 is a pretty competitive class I'm not sure how that would work on the long term as with the ADAC GT4 Germany there already is a pretty big GT4 series here that already drives on a bunch of tracks that DTM also drives on.
GT3 and TCR have the same "problem", there already are so many series in and around Germany with those cars that I'm not sure there's a real "market" for another in the same area without just taking away teams from established series like GT Masters or VLN
short vortex
It almost died once before, give it a while and they can revive it again too
tacit garden
If they don't end up using GT or TCR anyway this might be a great opportunity to take a break and think about a way to turn this concept into reality https://www.electrive.com/2019/11/07/dtm-presents-electric-racing-concept/
Maybe it would be possible to use a standard chassis and certain standard electrical parts while allowing manufacturers to develop their own e-motors, choose between hydrogen and batteries, and put a silhouette around it; similarly to how the current regs are with ICEs. That way it may be possible to keep costs relatively low while making sure it's interesting for manufacturers (who maybe could use their knowledge and some parts of their FE technology if the rules allow it).
I just can't see how they could establish a completely new Class 1-like category with "classic" ICEs
weary stone
Thats like Formula E but not single-seater
tacit garden
Exactly
There's no major electric racing series for two-seaters is there? This might be the opportunity for it
lethal yacht
is there rally except they use electric cars
tacit garden
I don't think so; not on a large scale at least
Well, WRX wants to go electric in some years and there's this "extreme e"-series planned but I'd count that as another different category of motorsports
short vortex
There was an electric entry to the Dakar rally a few years ago, I think
lethal yacht
if you missed it here is Audi's statement https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/en/press-releases/audi-realigns-its-commitment-in-motorsport-12764/download
in pdf form, how modern
limpid escarp
My guess is that dtm will rush their super gt links to get more cars on the grid
heavy shuttle
yes
lethal yacht
š¦
tacit garden
But does any of the Japanese teams really have interest to drive a full season of DTM
limpid escarp
Not as full factory teams but maybe if they enter agreements with customers
Or they could just combine the two series and make it a cross continent thing
weary stone
SuperGT merger with DTM won't happen in this already fragile economy
floral urchinBOT
New September date could make Le Mans "very fast"
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heavy shuttle
In light of reading this
It seems that DTM/ITR learnt of Audi's departure the same time we did
With their press release
And that they didn't privately inform them of their decision beforehand
Okay, reading Audi's press release. It seem's they did message ITR within hours before their public announcement
tacit garden
I mean it wasn't entirely suprising that they decided to leave, though it was quicker than expected
lethal yacht
I thought it would probably happen but I didn't think it would actually happen
floral urchinBOT
Toyota pushes back hypercar rollout to October
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Watch: Schumacher make his Mercedes World Sportscar race debut
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lavish musk
Twitter
lavish musk
midnight abyss
It's just a game Lando lol
heavy shuttle
ok boomer
lethal yacht
The phrase "It's just a game" is such a weak mindset
naive pasture
yup
midnight abyss
Making a statement without any reasoning is a weak mindset. Very weak. Sad!
floral urchinBOT
Alonso claims 2021 plans are "more or less" set
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magic lynx
Which bridge is he going to burn this time
naive pasture
Hopefully Indycar
floral urchinBOT
McLaren says LMDh rules are "extremely appealing"
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heavy shuttle
yes
floral urchinBOT
ACO, IMSA reveal LMDh regulation details
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remote cove
pure pecan
wot
remote cove
why the fuck does everything have to be about sex and gender and what not nowadays
pure pecan
because it's still not compltely socially acceptable to be gay / bi / etc which is sad, by many corporations making stuff like this they normalize it
daring nacelle
its about representation as well
remote cove
She isn't even driving in formula E
pure pecan
Motorsport has mainly been a manly sport where women are frown against and whatnot so i don't see an issue with this video
remote cove
i just feel like people are making too big of a deal out of it
pure pecan
like you?
heavy shuttle
thats a pretty boomer thing to say niek...
heavy shuttle
why does that matter to you
remote cove
oh
daring nacelle
lol
remote cove
lmao
pure pecan
if u watched the video you would've seen her driving the FE cars in the esport races
heavy shuttle
and fe is all about developing motorsports
pure pecan
ye
heavy shuttle
this is definitely apart of that
pure pecan
makes sense to share her story
remote cove
there have been female drivers in the past
remote cove
well if she's MtF she's a female
remote cove
i guess i misunderstood
pure pecan
happens
heavy shuttle
its just about them presenting this openly LGBT driver to the world
and to the LGBT motorsport community
to show they can get somewhere, and that theyre welcome
daring nacelle
yee
remote cove
fair
thankfully we live in a society where nowadays it is a lot more acceptable to talk about it than in the past
naive pasture
Unfortunately a lot of the comments in that video are showing exactly why we need more representation in motorsport and sport in general.
pure pecan
tbh 95% are positive
unless they deleted the shit ones already
i found your comment tho
naive pasture
yeah, most of the bad comments are just spam by 1 guy
remote cove
brady chuck wildin
lethal yacht
f1 teams have no care about where you come from or who you are or your background in general i think
they just want fast drivers
its good that there's more inclusivity now for everyone doe
pure pecan
this is not about F1 though
lol
not to mention that the F1 teams' opinions aren't universal which in this case is unfortunate
lethal yacht
but i don't think any racing team would single someone out because of who they are..?
that would kinda be dumb if they did doe
pure pecan
still not the point
lethal yacht
then i'm dumb and idk what it is ig
pure pecan
weary stone
me neither
pure pecan
not to mention that the point isn't even to overrepresent it
it's to say that they're there and it's 100% ok
and that there shouldn't be an issue with it
naive pasture
Me too
pure pecan
bigots be bigots?
tacit garden
the problem with those comments often is that in my experience, any representation is, to them, "overrepresentation"
naive pasture
pretty much
solar narwhal
yeah, that's the problem
naive pasture
hardly know any LGBT people in motorsport but whenever they're shown people always moan
solar narwhal
anything is "overrepresentation"
pure pecan
and they only say "she's transgender and racing, that's okay and people shouldnt be afraid of coming out"
not that every fucking one there is LGBT or trans
solar narwhal
yeah
tacit garden
precisely
pure pecan
heavy shuttle
i didnt register what this post meant earlier
so quickly. WHAT THE FUCK.
how absolutely idiotic
apparently people are bored of the pandemic so it doesnt exist now eh
pure pecan
Wot
Oh
I mean in theory it returns in June 6th
Probably won't happen tho lol
False hope
exotic crater
pogchamp
hungary is planning to make a motogp track
and its next to my little town
lethal yacht
can't they just make it at the hungaroring?
exotic crater
they want a new track
lethal yacht
noo
exotic crater
but i dont think it would be wide enough for f1
lethal yacht
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Opinion: WEC should double down on its IMSA tie-up
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Peugeot's WEC return on target despite Hypercar/LMDh dilemma
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midnight abyss
What's wrong with June 6th
heavy shuttle
it being far too early for a major event
midnight abyss
Arbitrary statement
weary stone
Except its gonna not gonna have fans
And the people that will be there will be careful
heavy shuttle
i still believe its far too early
like mainly due to the fact america is still gaining cases. and its still massively under fire from the virus. doesnt matter if no fans are gonna be there, its still loads of people there for the teams that don't need to be there. its not an essential service. so it shouldnt be happening
midnight abyss
June 6th is quite a long way away
pure pecan
its 3 weeks away
heavy shuttle
its not a long way away 
pure pecan
3 weeks go by pretty fast tbh
floral urchinBOT
WEC teams call for reduced 2021 calendar
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LM Hypercar rules amended to converge with new LMDh regs
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Corvette withdraws from 2020 Le Mans 24 Hours
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Gallery: Corvette's 20-year history at Le Mans
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magic lynx
Oof
flat vortex
was going through Scott Pruett's wiki page and saw this
til that Bruce, now Caitlin Jenner won the 12 Hours of Sebring (in their class)
patent knoll
i really hope that it can be with audience
because i live in FL and was gonn go to st pete and that's my birthday
lavish musk
Yeah same just minus the bday part
lethal yacht
Twitter
heavy shuttle
virtual le mans happen every year anyways
lethal yacht
yeah
naive pasture
What game?
lethal yacht
iRacing
heavy shuttle
tHatS a siMUlaTOr acCUTallY
remote cove
Wouldn't surprise me if it was going to be run in rfactor 2 though
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Lotterer, Jani interested in Porsche LMDh drives
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lethal yacht
just give them the drives
they have proven they can race well in endurance races before
lethal yacht
Twitter
remote cove
Wouldn't surprise me if it was going to be run in rfactor 2 though
@remote cove https://www.studio-397.com/2020/05/le-mans-2020-virtual/ yup
heavy shuttle
yeh there is one on rfactor
and its where simracers can team up with real life drivers
remote cove
this one is the official one
heavy shuttle
big man yuri just told me
remote cove
iracing one is ILMS isnt it?
DUDE
"To celebrate the event in the right way, we will also soon release a new Le Mans special pack. This will, for the first time ever in rFactor 2, include cars from one of the most desirable car manufacturer in the world, Ferrari!
The Ferrari 488 GTE and GT3 will be added to our already big roster of Endurance and GT racing cars. If you already own the Le Mans track and other items from that pack, you will be able to buy the new cars to complete your content library."
heavy shuttle
oh sweet thats pretty gamer ig
but yeh it is ILMS i think
well unsure tbh
someone asked me to do it with them, but 
heavy shuttle
yeh
lavish musk
Only LMP2 and GTE cars for the rF2 and max of 50 cars
heavy shuttle
thats pretty bruh
floral urchinBOT
ByKolles resumes testing after gaining Le Mans entry
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pure pecan
one of hte commentator's mic is spiking so much
got two friends racing here so i know who i'm rooting for š
pure pecan
Liam and Philip š
pure pecan
š
pure pecan
uhhh idk but i think one is 27 yeah
purple car for one of them
hold up
27 foir liam
flat vortex
something interesting I learned today - in some epiosdes of seinfeld you can see a skip barber racing school magnet stuck to Jerry's fridge
sorry for bad cropping, pinterest sucks
lavish musk
Twitter
7 races in 11 days
Yikes
one position determines if you start 1st or last on Wednesday lol
heavy shuttle
bruH
tacit garden
Oooh
atomic berry
Red Bull Soapbox Race Monaco
The track length is 1.3km to the meter
If you're wondering this would take place on the Thursday Night of the GP weekend
heavy shuttle
bc no one cares
atomic berry
Huh
floral urchinBOT
WEC: "The market will decide" if LMDh is delayed
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daring nacelle
yikes that didnt last long
tacit garden
I think I've heard of that once or twice
remote cove
bruh
heavy shuttle
yeh it wasnt very well known
lethal yacht
pure pecan
old snow
Why have I not seen this before tf
pure pecan
dunno kek
old snow
How long do FE races usually last?
pure pecan
50 minutes + 1 lap I think?
pure pecan
45+1lap
ye
them cars are almost out of charge by the end of 45mins
hence why they do it by time
heavy shuttle
youve never heard of fe?
pure pecan
of FE Monaco eprix
heavy shuttle
big bruh
heavy shuttle
easier for porsche š
heavy shuttle
yeh...
old snow
How does someone even-
heavy shuttle
he asked someone to race in his name
old snow
Oh I know how, I just wonder how he got caught
lethal yacht
according to the article "suspicions arose when Abt qualified second, and for a time, led the race"
ouch
pure pecan
hhahahaha
old snow
Fucking woahhhh
Shit must burn
Wow, what makes it even more embarrassing is...itās a race for charity
Daniel really fucked up
lethal yacht
š
tacit garden
lmao what
I mean it was wrong of him to do so but where does that 10k fine come from
is that in the rules of the FE esports championship?
pure pecan
probably cus he wasn't allowed to yknow, have someone else drive for him
tacit garden
nono I get that
tacit garden
I'm just wondering if a fine like that, beyond the obvious disqualification, is explicitely in the rules of that e-championship (if it even has "proper" rules)
ooh
let's see
pure pecan
there are two instances where they mentioned being fined
ctrl f
nvm just one
Exploiting game glitches ā Intentionally using any in-game bug to seek an advantage. Exploiting is defined as utilising any game function that, in the sole determination of the organisers, is not functioning as intended.
- No forms of cheating, gameplay, gamesmanship or gaining an unfair advantage in any way will be tolerated. This includes, but is not limited to:
Impersonation (including playing under another driverās account) ā to be understood as playing under another driverās account or soliciting, inducing, encouraging or directing someone else to play under another driverās account.
tacit garden
the only two instances of "fined" i can find are in "defined as"
pure pecan
yeah oof
tacit garden
again I understand it's against the rules and rightfully so
I'm just surprised at the 10k (even though that's probably peanuts for him)
pure pecan
I mean, bc it's FE they probalby have it in their contract that breaking the rules can result in a fine
midnight abyss
ā¬8900... Wtf?
Where do those numbers even come from? They just make it up on the fly?
pure pecan
yes
heavy shuttle
no look, its Ā£8,900. its the translation from ā¬10,000
smoky glen
magic lynx
So you might've guessed why i changed my name
heavy shuttle
hahah
pure pecan
because you enjoy consuming Maccaroni a lot more than you enjoy consuming Lando Norris?
heavy shuttle
sounds reasonable
magic lynx
because you enjoy consuming Maccaroni a lot more than you enjoy consuming Lando Norris?
@pure pecan
pure pecan
truth be told i'm no cannibal so your choice is undestandable
I would've done the same
heavy shuttle
Pictured: Sample of Indianapolis' track. Visible is 108 pavement layers
old snow
Some Lando fans have absolutely no lives
A good chunk of them are fan girls that probably donāt actually watch F1 for the racing
heavy shuttle
Well, a lot of toxic people accuse girls of that. Harrass girls of that, when most the time it's not true and it's unfortunate
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daring nacelle
just stayed up to watch the nascar coke 600 and it ended in the most dumb way possible without a crash happening
i dont have words for the stupidity of the strategy there by a certain somebody
daring nacelle
i wasnt gonna spoil but yea
like
i rly stayed up until 5am just to watch ||him throw the race like that||
lethal yacht
chase has the personality of a fish
media man
that pit strategy was the worst fucking thing ive ever seen in a motorsports event period
why the fuck would you pit with 2 laps to go in the lead for a yellow
daring nacelle
i like him and support him but jesus
lethal yacht
i don't even care cause brad is just as bad
daring nacelle
it almost worked out, predicting a caution, ppl almost crashed but like
lethal yacht
i wouldve liked jj to win
daring nacelle
thats something you do when you want to risk it
to try and gain some spots late
not when youre fucking leading
daring nacelle
time for bed now but š š way to leave a sour taste in the mouth for an otherwise alright race
keen ginkgo
LMAO
idk why thats so funny. dude's a professional FE driver and yet he goes and does* this shit.
main swan
remote cove
subtle needle
grim shell
F
magic lynx
Woah
weary stone
exactly
pure pecan
well the simracing world has had a decent amount of drama lately
but yeah I agree with the statement
if he doesn't take it seriously he shouldn't really be there
pure pecan
pretty much
grim shell
But it's different scandal like kyle larson
One hired pro sim racer (Actually pro sim racer Lorenz Hoerzing also race at challenge grid)
grim shell
Yeah he pretty bad last race virtual hongkong e-Prix
remote cove
actual W for audi
vale willow
Image that proceeded unfortunate events
remote cove
how do I convince idiots that this is deserverd and that it's not "just a game"
weary stone
because it was an officially sanctioned event by Formula E
heavy shuttle
yep
its probably also just smth to hide other reasons behind when getting rid of him
naive pasture
heavy shuttle
oh rip
magic lynx
At this point drivers have more to lose than to gain joining simraces
remote cove
what happened to afdac
magic lynx
He quits after the announcement that Abt got fired i guess
remote cove
ah
apparently I'm a "fucking retard idiot" and "stupid 16 year old boy who wants to be controversial" because I said I think abt deserves it
heavy shuttle
he had it, or atleast something, coming when he decided to get someone else to race for him
pretty dumb
remote cove
yes but it's just a game!!!!
at what point is it no longer a game?
where you put someone else in the car to drive for you because you want to win so bad? is it a game at that point?
tacit garden
jesus christ
I didn't expect it to blow up THAT much
"Integrity, transparency and consistent compliance with applicable rules are top priorities for Audi" ||"Timo, schieb ihn raus!"||
pure pecan
MaccaroniToday at 12:11
fair
If he doesn't take Audi seriously, Audi won't take him seriously
this is basically how i feel about it
old snow
Twitter
Am I the only one that thinks itās harsh?
Fine him, warn him, do everything you can before you do this. Iām in no way, shape or form devaluing sim-racing but I think that itās not that big of a deal to lose your literal job over. Iām sure he knows by now that he fucked up BIG TIME
Letās wait and see what heās got to say in his statement. I really hope he begs on his knees
magic lynx
Yep
pure pecan
Considering it's an official event backed by sponsors etc and the fact that they signed a contract...
not to mention that if he's not taking his job serious why should Audi keep him
magic lynx
He didn't show up for the job
tacit garden
I think that's the problem here; many don't seem to realise that these sim-events are taken VERY seriously by the teams and especially the sponsors
pure pecan
yep
magic lynx
Exactly
remote cove
ye
tacit garden
though personally it still blows my mind just HOW serious it is
I mean, that nascar driver with the n-word would have been bad in any case, sim or not
magic lynx
"It's just a game" basically says "i don't take the people and sponsors involved seriously"
tacit garden
but this is just... wow
magic lynx
If you don't take the problem serious, then more problems will follow
old snow
I donāt agree with those comments about it ājust being a gameā
tacit garden
I'm just not sure if Abt himself didn't take it seriously and thought that a simracer would have fun driving against real race drivers; or if he took it very seriously, was frustrated that he hadn't had success and hoped that would give him a good result
old snow
I can see how serious it is
I just hope he gets his job back and never thinks to do anything like this again
He definitely didnāt take it seriously
Is da Costa the guy that replaced him?
magic lynx
nope
old snow
Then why did he tweet that?
pure pecan
he was salty that Abt was fined yesterday
"Come on guys, he's a nice guy!" or something along those lines
old snow
So thatās just his opinion on the matter? The whole āIām done with streamingā
pure pecan
Is David really wrong though?
This, coming from a Felix fan
i fucking love the dude
but seriously
yeah that's it Kris
old snow
I see his point though
If I were a driver, Iād be scared to hop on a stream
Seems so easy to fuck up right now
pure pecan
apparently he's "afraid of simracing"
Unless Felix gets someone to race for him I don't see how it can go wrong
remote cove
Theres no problem with just hopping on a stream and just fucking driving the car like you are supposed to
old snow
The wrong word, the wrong thing done, anything slightly out of line and itās over
old snow
(Not to say downplay what Abt did)
remote cove
The wrong word, the wrong thing done, anything slightly out of line and itās over
@old snow you cant really do much wrong
tacit garden
e.g. i understand both comments here
pure pecan
your monopoly game isn't backed by a shit tone of sponsors and teams
remote cove
how the fuck can you even cheat at monopoly
remote cove
fair
old snow
Iām not justifying any of da Costaās comments but I understand why heās afraid
pure pecan
moving 3 positions instead of 2 cus 2 would be jail
I do too but it's idiotic imo to stop streaming because someone cheated and had consequences
old snow
I totally agree. People should just not be shitty and maintain professionalism while they stream
pure pecan
Twitter
old snow
Maybe not maintain professionalism but at least try their best to
i just feel like it's a difficult situation
I agree
I donāt see it as just one or the other
I think theyāre setting this as an example
To make sure that anyone else that even thinks of doing something like this, will think again
tacit garden
it still feels weird
I get that the events are taken seriously by the organisers, teams and sponsors
but there's still this part of me that kinda thinks "it's just a game"
probably because Leclerc and Norris always have these non-serious, more private streams as well
old snow
Whyyyy was Daniel such a fucking idiot? Dammit. I really hope heās learnt something from this
old snow
Daniel tried to use ālagā as the coverup lmao
vale willow
Because as stated in the article the person who was filling in for abt was doing blatent sim racer moves
midnight abyss
Twitter
This is such a joke. I don't like Abt at all but this decision is bullshit frankly
weary stone
Considering it's an official event backed by sponsors etc and the fact that they signed a contract...
@pure pecan add in the fact that it was also for charity
pure pecan
yeah
weary stone
Abt is suspended from Audi on Tuesday lunchtime via an official Audi AG communication, which cites: āIntegrity, transparency and consistent compliance with applicable rules are top priorities for Audi.ā
like
do people not realize how fuckign shitty abt's actions make audi look?
like someone is cheating in an officially sanctioned causing the entire team to get a PR nightmare
like of course he's going to be suspended!
pure pecan
ur late
smh š¤
anyway yeah
boy doesnt take Audi serious so audio goes "u no work here"
lethal yacht
i guess he deserves it
tacit garden
like someone is cheating in an officially sanctioned causing the entire team to get a PR nightmare
@weary stone that's true; though I'm still surprised how quickly that happened
Ullrich stayed for another year before leaving Audi even after he said the "push him out" radio
heavy shuttle
pure pecan
yes those are words
grim shell
I'm saw that
heavy shuttle
yet he still got the š
pure pecan
actual l m a o
grim shell
Abt sportsline
heavy shuttle
but 3 years ago got factory backing from Audi
grim shell
Start season 4 ?
heavy shuttle
he said that rfactor 2 has no relation at all with real racing
well "it's a simulation which does not have anything in common with real racing"
well... it does, it simulates real racing ?
pure pecan
not that it matters lmao
it could be fuckin
realracing 3, it'd still be an official event
backed by sponsors, backed by teams
heavy shuttle
exactly...
heavy shuttle
he is now talking about how the previous races were shit
and how everyone drove how they liked
he literally just said that he has already emphasized its not about the results, and that the drivers see it more as a fun online series
well if its not about the results, then just race? ??
pure pecan
didnt he say he got a pro simmer so he could get a good result
heavy shuttle
not yet
so he's saying some drivers focussed on the results whereas others focussed on the entertainment, including him
he has not explained why he did it yet. and has no apologised
5 minutes in
flint sinew
can someone tl;dr for me i cbf to watch 14 mins
pure pecan
it has english subtitles
old snow
I knoooowwww
But I have to pay full attention so I donāt miss anything he says
See ya in 15min
pure pecan
ill hold u up to that
heavy shuttle
i cba'd to watch the whole thing
some people are saying its genuine
and that he brings up good points
old snow
7 minutes in, heās saying that it was supposed to be a joke, a prank on the other drives if you will
He never had the intention of getting a better result
pure pecan
how to ruin your career in 3 simple steps
old snow
It seems genuine, he has video proof of saying it beforehand. He says ādo you want to drive for me? No joke! It would be super funnyā
Heās speaking to a professional sim racer btw
In the vid
pure pecan
still breaches his contract
and the actual rules of the event, it says no impresonation kek
old snow
I really donāt think he meant to do it as a way to get better results though
flint sinew
lol if anything that just shows he has no respect for the event
old snow
I donāt see it
Iāll keep watching
Might watch it a few times
He also says that the results in this are irrelevant to him, personally
And I see that. I think he has respect for it, he just doesnāt care about what results he gets himself
flint sinew
i see what ur saying but i think the fact that he is using the event to play a prank when sponsors are investing money, the time that other racers and team personnel put into the event, and he couldn't even show up himself ?
i get he didn't mean it in an ill-hearted way it just comes across that way
pure pecan
yeah
Sponsors, teams etc put a lot of money and time into that event, + it's for a charity
he has a contract to race for them, if he doesn't thne yeah he's fired, whcih is what happened
flint sinew
its just... there is a time and place for these things
he fucked up and chose the wrong time
pure pecan
it's also under the public FE rules for this event that someone else racing for you / racing for someone else is not allowed
old snow
Ok in my opinion, he didnāt have any malevolent intentions. Doesnāt mean itās less fucked up but he really did not mean it as a way to get better results
Doesnāt mean he shouldnāt be reprimanded for it
I just donāt think itās worth losing your seat over
Give him a fine, use this as a lesson, is it really necessary to drop him? He definitely knows he fucked up, big time
pure pecan
Again, if he can't take an event for charity seriously when teams and sponsors ar eputting a lot of money and time into it, why should his team take him seriously
old snow
Yes, I see that. I donāt think itās enough to lose your job over. If he did mean it, if he actually wanted better results, sure. He knows now to take it seriously, I wish he did before this but thereās no going back sadly
pure pecan
I was very shocked when I heard he lost his seat, but it's not really unfair
old snow
Finished it now and he didnāt try to shift the blame or deflect at all. Heās taking full responsibility
He does believe that the media were way too quick to jump on the wagon and call him a cheater. They didnāt give him a chance to get his say out
Last few minutes are basically him just apologizing and thanking everyone heās ever worked with, including Audi
remote cove
Ok in my opinion, he didnāt have any malevolent intentions. Doesnāt mean itās less fucked up but he really did not mean it as a way to get better results
@old snow that's what he says though
Perhaps he's not being totally honest about that
old snow
I meant to say, Iām my opinion, I believe here being honest in that
He didnāt try to hide it though
He told them immediately when they asked because he was a dumbass not to realize how important it was
This situation is messy af
magic lynx
Yeah it's a messy situation
old snow
To summarize, he says that this entire thing was supposed to be a joke. He personally doesnāt take these results seriously and yes, itās unfair on all the sponsors and everyone else that puts time and effort into this. His plan was to get a professional sim racer to take over for him so everyone would be confused as to how he had improved drastically within a few days. Heās taken full responsibility and is accepting the fact that heās fucked up. Daniel knows itās the end of the road for him and Audi
pure pecan
he can still sign for another team
tho it'd be awkward to erm
race against your family's team
old snow
Heās apologized and is hoping that people will accept his apology
Lmao thatās what I was thinking
So the team was private at first, then Audi came along and partnered with them?
pure pecan
from what i know yes
old snow
Maaaaan, thatās awkward
pure pecan
im probably wrong
old snow
He truly is a fucking idiot
pure pecan
i dont follow FE other than Merc and Felix
heavy shuttle
yes
old snow
Is Stoffel still in there?
heavy shuttle
ABT started off as a privateer team
then 3 years ago, Audi became a factory partner with them
old snow
Wehrlein too?
heavy shuttle
however they, ABT and Audi, have been partners since the 90s
magic lynx
big f
old snow
The video is blowing up
60,000 when I clicked on it which was less than 15min ago
100,000 now
Someone in the comments said āRIP Formula Eās popularity in Germanyā
pure pecan
60,000,000 views?
old snow
Yikes
pure pecan
holy shit
old snow
Oh fuck off, you know what I meant
pure pecan
xD
pure pecan
Abt? yes
lethal yacht
come the fuck on
pure pecan
and not because of the game, no
lethal yacht
what was it
lethal yacht
what was the contract
pure pecan
that he has to drive for them among other things
whcih he violated by getting someone to impersonate him
so audio abt went "fuck off"
old snow
Because theyāre scared of fucking up
pure pecan
idfk what they're scared of tbh
old snow
Which shouldnāt be a problem if they arenāt fucking idiots during live streams
pure pecan
unless they get someone else to drive for them they won't have problems
lmfao
or unless they do a Kyle Larson moment
weary stone
the race did a decent video explaining exactly what happened
heavy shuttle
idk what a ringer is exactly
but it is referring to someone else doing the race for him
old snow
Me either but Iām guessing it means that
teal turtle
how lame of a person must you be
and how stupid must you be to think that in this age of social media, something stupid like this would work
like i dont get it, did he really thing ke would stay under the radar with this shit
weary stone
Ringer:
Slang. a racehorse, athlete, or the like entered in a competition under false representation as to identity or ability
old snow
It was meant to be a joke but I donāt think he took it seriously enough
teal turtle
how is that a joke
old snow
He saw it as āhahahaha, it would be sooo funny if someone took over for me and made it look like I was a god at sim racing! The other drivers will be so confusedā
teal turtle
thats like doping and saying "lmao i got you" when you get caught
old snow
But it was a charity event and there were plenty of sponsors backing it. He really shouldāve kept that for another time
weary stone
maybe he should have talked to you know, his team before doing thqat
old snow
Of course, he was a dumbass in that
teal turtle
i mean you have to be a really shit person to do something like that
old snow
He didnāt have bad intentions but he reeeeally shouldāve thought twice
old snow
Thatās what I mean. He really didnāt think it through
teal turtle
because if he just couldnt be bothered to sim race he wouldnt have raised attention by qualifying 2nd
it was just a selfish act of butt fucking stupid thinking
old snow
He was saying that he āpersonally doesnāt take it seriously and the results are irrelevantā
He didnāt do it to get ābetter resultsā
But he 100000% shouldāve realized how harmful it was
teal turtle
well if he didnt why didnt he go low key and qualify like 10th
like look i dont see this being a prank
imeagine this
i get a job
old snow
It sounds all innocent but itās not. Really stupid thinking
teal turtle
and i get some guy to do it for me
much better than me might i add
what is a prank about that
i see only 2 intentions
not wanting to bother with sim racing
or wanting to be the top sim racer
like i dont see why he would qualify so good if he didnt want to bother with it and just hired somebody to race for him
old snow
I see what he was doing with the prank thing. Just donāt think he realized how serious it was in that moment
weary stone
pure pecan
i love democracy
weary stone
š
weary stone
cold solar
Heās apologized and is hoping that people will accept his apology
@old snow the whole thing is fucking stupid. It's a fucking game. One of the guys came on and said they don't have to do it from what I know
old snow
Tell that to the sponsors
Weāll see what theyāll say
I see both sides here
To me, itās just a silly game. To the sponsors, the officials, everyone organizing it, it isnāt
He done fucked up and I genuinely feel bad for him but if this is what needs to happen for him to learn his lesson, so be it I guess
cold solar
I know and I understand but it's a fucking gameš
Like if they told him before hand, this is for charity we need to have fun but take it seriously too then I understand
old snow
Iām 100% sure they did
He knew what he was doing
He just didnāt take it seriously enough
cold solar
Iām 100% sure they did
@old snow I disagree
old snow
And this is the punishment for that
Why wouldnāt they tell him?
What reason would they have? I highly doubt he wasnāt informed of how serious this event was
cold solar
Why would he do it if he knew he'd lose his seat?
old snow
He definitely wouldāve known it wouldnāt have ended in a good way
I wish he didnāt lose his seat but not much we can do really
It doesnāt look good on Audiās end
cold solar
I don't know man. My take is, yes it's for charity and my understanding was they weren't forced to do it
It doesnāt look good on Audiās end
@old snow it's a game š
old snow
I understand his side and I actually agree with it. He was just trying to have fun. He just didnāt think far enough
cold solar
I can say what he did was stupid but enough for him to lose his seat? Fuck no
old snow
Iām seeing it that way too. But as you know, sponsors and brand face are crucial
It did shock me but itās life. Heās accepted their decision and hopes everyone can move on
cold solar
Iām seeing it that way too. But as you know, sponsors and brand face is crucial
@old snow I don't care man. Those guys are just annoying at this point. I mean maybe the media had a part to play but it's a bs decision
Jean Eric Verne put it in a nice way
old snow
Media was the one that made it out as if he was purposely cheating. Didnāt give him a shot. I can see why they jumped the gun and thought that
I just donāt like this situation at all. Shouldnāt have happened
Like I said man, you might just see it as a game but it certainly isnāt for others. Shitty situation with a shitty outcome
cold solar
so why are these streamers leaving twitch now
@lethal yacht they scared of losing their drive over a fucking game
Like I said man, you might just see it as a game but it certainly isnāt for others. Shitty situation with a shitty outcome
@old snow yeah I'm just really disappointed
I mean the other drivers think that it's a bs decision too
I hope some old depressed grandpa didn't make this decision
cold solar
Some disagree with it. I think it shocked many though
@old snow ofc
old snow
One thing I donāt agree with is the comparison between the Larson situation and this one
cold solar
The reason why they shocked about it is because it's a game. It's online. It has nothing on results, it's for charity
One thing I donāt agree with is the comparison between the Larson situation and this one
@old snow will have to look that up
old snow
Well now we know itās worth more than that
Kyle Larson?
You didnāt hear?
NASCAR driver
He said the N word on a live stream. He thought he was in a private chat
cold solar
šš
old snow
Lost his seat over it after sponsors started pulling out
Thatās a different ballgame imo
cold solar
Damn bro š
old snow
I just canāt believe this decision with Daniel. Man, I didnāt expect this at all. Just wow. Iām not gonna downplay and say āitās just a gameā because I know how serious it is but fuck man...fuck
Iām not shocked because itās ājust a gameā, Iām shocked because I didnāt realize just how serious this was all being taken. I can see it now and I know damn well that the drivers can too
I donāt see why the drivers are scared of streaming though. Just donāt be dumbass, simple as that
cold solar
Tbf imo I don't even think it's that serious what he did. Just give him a slap on the wrist and tell him to man up and do it for charity
old snow
I wonder if heāll be able to find another seat
Some are even saying that this is a way for Audi to get rid of him since they were planning on it anyway
I do not have evidence so donāt quote me on that
Itās all rumors and speculation
cold solar
I donāt see why the drivers are scared of streaming though. Just donāt be dumbass, simple as that
@old snow the thing is they having fun and they in quarantine so some stuff might be said you know, someone might call his friend a jackass or a fuck hole on Camara by accident when he says it all the time in the whatsapp group
old snow
Then thatās gotta change. Keep the professionalism going. Lando, Charles and just about everyone else do it pretty easily, donāt see why others canāt
cold solar
Scenes when bottas loses his seat at Mercedes when he says Toto wolff is my bitch on streamš
old snow
You know youāre on camera, live to the world, think twice about every decision you make if you have to
Eh, he could just run off to Renault
cold solar
You know youāre on camera, live to the world, think twice about every decision you make if you have to
@old snow I know bro it's easy to say that but all it takes is 1 sec for you to forget
Yeah I think Renault wanna see what happens at the end of the season
I know red bull are choosing nico if albon goes "alb-off"
lethal python
wait, drivers said they're scared of streaming?
old snow
Some of them, yes
lethal python
rlly
most of the grid doesn't stream because they probably don't simrace casually
or even game at all probably
if you look back 10 years ago only a few drivers had rigs at home
sutil was 1
whereas now it's all the younger drivers
but it shouldn't really be hard for the drivers to not say dumb shit
they act professional for so much of their careers
they're used to cameras
lethal yacht
Im surprised it got this far
earnest lagoon
It's a game, sure, but it's not a casual race he's doing for fun, it's a sponsored event, for charity, and for publicity of brands and sponsors, and abt was being paid to race in it, as all the other FE drivers, and he clearly knew that, all the drivers are obligated to do the virtual races for marketing purpose and to help the sport live through theses rough times. By putting a simracer in his seat, making him impersonate him and make everyone believe it was still him, even having a webcam purposely not showing his face to be sure the swap would not be suspect, he clearly knew he was doing something wrong
And not only did he make a fool of himself, but he made Audi look like clowns, Abt brand look like clowns, all his sponsors like sony look like guys who sponsors clowns, and he made formula e look like a clowns championships where drivers do stupid stuff. It gives a whole lot of bad publicity to the sport and they really did not need that
Sentence is harsh yes, but they just couldn't pat on his shoulder and say "please don't do that again" after so much bad publicity for them
tacit garden
Sentence is harsh yes, but they just couldn't pat on his shoulder and say "please don't do that again" after so much bad publicity for them
The race penalties are fine but honestly I don't quite get the immediate suspension from Audi.
Other people got to stay for longer after (IMO) worse things
especially the DTM Spielberg scandal comes to mind
lethal yacht
Is that the āPUSH HIM OUT JAā
tacit garden
yes
Wolfgang Ullrich, the guy who said the message and at that time head of Audi's motorsport division, got to stay with Audi for another year and a half before retiring
lethal yacht
Also for some clarification
Is Abt sacked or on suspension
Because Sky says he has been released from Audi
another one says he has been suspended pending an investigation
tacit garden
officially just suspended
though Abt himself said that Audi told him that he won't drive for them in FE anymore
lethal yacht
oof
weary stone
shouldnt have cheated, its really not that hard
magic lynx
floral urchinBOT
Lotterer has sympathy for Audi DTM drivers
motorsport.com
heavy shuttle
remote cove
they should hire jonny edgar
weary stone
heavy shuttle
they should hire jonny edgar
@remote cove @silk epoch
silk epoch
don't reveal 2021 plans
heavy shuttle
š
heavy shuttle
lethal yacht
Zandvoort isn't on the DTM calendar but there's space to take it
tacit garden
oh right they're in assen
i forgot they also planned to drive in Anderstorp š
I pretty much only know that track from race 07
tight quiver
tacit garden
Well yeah it's a Swedish track!
old snow
Twitter
Fucken dammit
If I have to see ādue to the coronavirus outbreak...ā one more time
magic lynx
earnest lagoon
Supercars is mostly a national championship and very few people come from elsewhere in the world
Much less travelling concerns
lethal yacht
its only between ANZ anyway
lethal yacht
11th july
earnest lagoon
Twitter
lethal yacht
No please
pure pecan
to be fair the WRC games aren't really better than DiRT
earnest lagoon
Codemasters is way better at rally games than F1 games yes
pure pecan
yes
heavy shuttle
much much better
paper brook
wrc 8 was a really good game
kind of a slap in the face to the small developer group who were improving a game with every release
wrc 8 got the best rally stages out of any rally game ever made honestly
canāt wait for codies to half ass them and for it to just be a regular dirt game with wrc slapped on it
my guess is it wonāt be anything like the actual dirt rally games
weāll see ig
zealous stone
Is MotoGP worth watching? How are the races and competition?
old snow
In my opinion, yes. Definitely worth giving a shot @zealous stone
The races are very rarely āboringā. Thereās always action and itās not uncommon to see final corner showdowns
MotoGP can still get these boring races though and the championship can get dull after Marc Marquez pulls away. The moment he gains momentum, heās almost unstoppable
pure pecan
I watched portugal 2006 a few months back
old snow
Heās on his 4th championship win in a row and he doesnāt seem to be slowing down
pure pecan
100% recommend
I read about rossi today and apparently he won 2000-2006 2008-09
What a beast
old snow
Another good race I highly recommend is the 2018 Dutch GP
That one was absolutely fucking amazing. Over 130 overtakes in that race alone
pure pecan
That's more overtakes than in an entire f1 season
old snow
Yep. It isnāt always about the amount of overtakes but it sure is exciting
naive pasture
Yep, MotoGP is great
old snow
Assen is known to have some pretty good races
I am a massive fan of Marquez but I would love to see some classic showdown and rivalries go on
Itās basically in the same state as F1 right now, championship wise
People wanna see Marc on another bike because heās been with Honda the entire time. They say he isnāt proven as a champion until he can win with other bikes
Sort of like how people want Lewis to prove himself by driving something other than a Merc
pure pecan
My dad was just saying earlier Honda was shit in motogp
Lmao
However he hasn't watched since 09
old snow
Depends. Different bikes have different riding styles
Ducatiās are difficult to master
Or at least, theyāre known for being difficult
But once the rider gets the hang of it, they rek shit
They used to be the best for top speed and would always win overtake battles when it came to straight lines
But Honda and a few other manufactures have worked on it
All in all, yes! Watch MotoGP
Give it a try
old snow
Oh fuck yes. Didnāt want to mention Moto2 or Moto3 yet until youāve gotten a feel of MotoGP
zealous stone
@old snow I'll check that out Thanks. I asked a MOTOGP fan and I guess he resents the dominance as a one man's show in the sport. But I guess MGP delivers better races compared to F1.
pure pecan
I watched Moto3 this year before quarantine, was on the edge of my seat the entire time
Same when I watched portugal 2006 motogp
old snow
Definitely. Marc may win a lot but I assure you, it is not without a fight. He is up there with some of the best riders in history
pure pecan
Can he ride my-
old snow
Honda, Ducati and Yamaha were the top teams. Suzuki slowly crept its way up and Iād say is nearly on par with them
Aprilia, KTM and the others are āmid fieldersā
Itās not uncommon to see those guys on the podium either
It can be frustrating with just Marc winning most of the time but again, youāve got some good fucken races to watch
And letās not even begin to mention Moto2 or Moto3...
pure pecan
Sky Team
VR46 TEAM
What's his teams name is it sky team
I read it earlier today
Aaaa im so tired
old snow
Indeed. Luca Marini
old snow
Getchu some slep boi
old snow
Gudnayt
pure pecan
