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I am not sure, but it might be related to making the change while you were live. and for the autoshow, do you have the media share widget added to your overlay?
Wait, does it delete the whole message or just the link?
yes, I have the widget add
It deletes just the link
Now the autoshow just stopped halfway through the song
Our bot doesn't have the ability to delete just links
Either the whole message or nothing at all
Only Twitch can edit their message to remove only the link
yeah, it sounds like changing the delete link settings while live has not disabled that functionality
how do i make my twitch look amazing?
okay - well, that is something
Could the Autoshow be messed up because of the changes being made live as well?
Tick autoshow, click on Show Video on Overlay once, it should do the rest
Okay - Thanks everybody - hopefully it will work tomorrow ๐
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that's just a getting started list. on the left side of the dashboard are all the settings for everything, if they are collapsed, you may need to click on the lines in the upper left to expand the list
Okay.
So question, when u do a redeemable postcard, how do u get the information that they fill out?? Is it sent to me via email ?
Add their address as a requirement and then you can check Redemptions for the information
Double checking something,
I believe
If they need to put their address they should do it through the site.
Not in a Twitch chat for everyone to see 
Ok but if they donโt?
Then yes
Right ya, I added that requirement ... I just did a test and didn't see it come through... maybe I need to be on pc. I'm on my phone
Lots? Like LoTzZ?
Nvm found it thx @tight harness
The overlays themselves show alerts in multiple ways (image, hype cup, kappagen, event list), stream labels (the text for like latest subscriber), and stream goals. You then put this in as a browser source in your broadcasting software, and it "over-lays" what you are currently doing
Oh I donโt use a Broadcasting software I just stream right off my console.
unfortunately, it would not be possible to use an overlay when just streaming on console at this time. You would need to use a capture card with a streaming pc
Hello, wanted to know what is the % SE take on a Paypal donation ? cannot find it
@shut dune you won't find it because we don't take anything
@weary mist oh cool
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Even though I have AdronBOT muted/ignored - it still shows up in my twitch chat on stream overlay ๐ฆ
try all lower case.
The overlay size is 1920x1080 to make sure it works best.
But when I make a screenshot of my obs in 1920x1080 and upload that picture to make sure the text fit. It wont.. It's kinda off bit.. why? :S
@stuck hamlet will try,thanks
@dense beacon try doing it the other way. Put the browser source into OBS, and make adjustments as needed in the editor. Every time you hit save, it should update in OBS
yup - that worked
Quick question, when adding a quote to the bot it always says "Added quote #0!" when it's actually quote 16 or something. The bot still works fine, it's just that little thing. There a way to fix that? 
No way to fix, its a known bug
Since its just a "visual" bug, it isn't high on the list to get fixed
Ok
I have the browser source and etc but would be nice to have it as close as to what I have obs. Just whondering why it's kinda off center even if I upload 100% 1920x1080 image :S
check to make sure that your positioning is right in the overlay editor
sometimes it can be slightly off if you actiddently move it without realizing. You can see it in the Position and Size tab
What's up with twitch hosts now?
Sometimes, I feel like twitch did something about auto hosts
Its possible
Anyone else host notifications fishy?
havent noticed
I didn't seem to have an issue this weekend when I streamed, but today is twitchy tuesday
so anything can happen
@indigo bone you need to have your groundcontrol app opened to have host notifications
!host
Twitch doesn't have a "notification system" for hosts (unlike follows, subs, raids, etc.) so the only way for StreamElements to know that you are being hosted is to connect through you to twitch. This connection is made on:
- SE Dashboard page - https://streamelements.com/dashboard
- SE Activity Feed page - https://streamelements.com/dashboard/activity
- Ground Control desktop app - https://streamelements.com/groundcontrol
Please have one of these open during your stream in order to receive host event notifications.
Hello,
is there anyone i can talk to regarding an email from you guys?
@wheat crest Sure, whats up?
Thanks will keep the ground control open
Yeah, go ahead and DM me
@tight harness scalper told me in a dm to ask you about my questions on growing my stream
That's a general question, doesn't need to be DM'd ๐
Plenty of people here who can help you with that one with varying opinions and advice, @misty wagon usually has some great suggestions
i told @weary mist in a dm that i wished to be able to talk about my very spefic problem with me growth* rn
@tight harness
If it's private then DM me, but if you just want advice on how to grow then that's a general question which varying opinions will help with
scalper said that he is on buisness rn
i just wish to be able to vc someone who knows what to do in my situation...
whooooo I wish the song requests auto playlist you can set up, plays more then just 200 songs
You never stream that long!! also turn on your Streamer Mode in Discord, I can hear ping ping in your stream ๐
streamer mode is always on
ya thats all on
Good! ๐
glad you are always in my stream
@misty wagon i dm ya
I have a question? Do I need to make the bot in my stream to use an overlay
No, the bot does not have to be in the stream for an overlay to work
Alright and then with the animated super themes are text boxes and everything automatically setup or is there anything I would need to do
The themes are set up to be plug and play. The only thing you would want to change are the social media stuff to match your information
I currently use stream labs for my most recent follows and things of that nature but in my OBS window I have to add in the text and read from a file was curious if these were set up already and everything
Oh yes, with us, those are cloud based. They update automagically without anything on your system ๐
you can always open the themes in the editor and change them to your liking
Alright so would the bot need to be active to auto update any of that
nope
The bot is soley needed for chat interaction
even loyalty can be gained without the bot
Just wondering because I use deepbot for mine
Yeah, that is fine
I know deepbot has some cool things about it that we can't do, but we might be able to do later
That would be awesone
what specific aspects of Deepbot do you use that you would like us to do?
So how would I get the overlay to say my things instead of where it says stream elements
Open it in the editor, click on the text box, and on the left hand side, you will see a text field to change it in
And I like the user database it has to see each user and how long they have been in stream and when they followed and subbed and everything, and the song request piece is nuce how you have set up the song time limit and everything in that nature
Alright where my name is it's all lower case automatically is that reading from somewhere
I honestly have no idea, but I think you can change it.
And I do know there are updates coming in those regards
the highest u can change to is that
Hey! Someone who can help? โค
i just made 2 seprate play list for my stream
@manic lava shoot ๐
@vital wyvern My bot keeps spamming the same message over and over again - https://gyazo.com/7545fb4dafe111973174ce9d7ff3855e - and I dont know what to do. I contacted twitch and they told me it wasnt them, and i tried turning off BTTV too :/
ah i see what the problem is
Alright I had a donation I was so seeing can it show up from before
@manic lava could you go to Spam filters on the stream elements website ? ๐
@charred salmon I am not sure what you mean, that sentence didn't make much sense
yes? @vital wyvern
what filter have you enabled ? ๐
@manic lava That is actually multple different messages, and from the looks of it, only you are able to see them. You can turn that off in your twitch settings
caps, link and banned words ๐ I suddenly just started and it has never been like this ๐ฎ @vital wyvern
They are just moderation messages. We send the timeouts/bans twice just in case twitch doesn't grab the first once
Hello all, is there a way to link whatโs playing on my iTunes to stream element so it shows whatโs playing on my stream?
@vague pivot no, we do not have a connection for that
Ah right thanks ๐
Is there a way to change one overlay then apply it's changes to the other slide
You can copy widgets to another overlay, but you will have to place them where you want them in the other overlay
Ok how about text pieces
everything is a wdiget in the overlay editor, lol
Oh alright and I also noticed that there is the stream elements link on every slide will that show up in the slides if I launch them
if you launch them, it brings up the page as OBS will see it
and you can copy the link from there
if you want
i was just able to buy more than the maximum allowed tickets at a twitch giveaway on the streamelements page... i first entered 5000, then it told me that the number would have to be 1000 or lower... after i entered 1000 and hit enter, i successfully bought 6000 tickets in total ๐
sure... thehunterwild it was... i can get u a screenshot too
Giveaway bug allowing to buy more than the maximum of 1000 tickets
Now when sizing it onto obs
@flint sky he closed the giveaway, I have no way to check what the system said on this end, lol
we will test it out though. It might be a simple visual bug
np... it withdrew the according amount of channel currency though too
Yeah, that is why I need to see the giveaway open. Though, when I copy that giveaway, it does say max tickets was 6k
interesting... i entered 5k and hit enter, but it didnt show me that congratulations page
so i had to change it to 1k before the number was accepted... i can test it again next time if needed
The overlay is cut off how could I change it to fit
@charred salmon double click on the browser source, change width to 1920, height to 1080, scroll down, hit "shutdown when not visible", click save
@flint sky Yeah, without it being open, I have no way to test it. I will try it later on my own though
alright... i will try 1024 tickets on next giveaway... should be in around 11 hrs i think... if you need any information from me, just gimme a poke ๐
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Do I ha e to have it shut down when not visible
Only if you are going to use more than one source
Ok the text is small and when I increase the box it stays the same size
Yo guys! There is any way to save your overlays in a cache or something so it will reduce the loading time when you chance the scene?
@molten heath Check out this tutorial for OBSโ studio mode which allows you to preload scenes before transitioning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8iWsD2Lq3U
@charred salmon there is a text settings option on the left
wait, how did the bot know? 
black magic
i`m mindblowned. bots will take over the world 
skynet is online
nope, the browser source in your broadcasting software takes care of it
Ok thanks again for all your help

Hey guys , anyone knows how to add custom chat commands with StreamElements so the bot can send infos after someone type in the commant ?
i was added some commands in the BOT Chat Commands option on the website , but somehow the bot does not gives out any infos..
so you are searching for a !promote command?
!whateva , but when someone tipes in , to let the bot spread out info that i make ready for that command..
Loyalty system question
When people donate 100 Bits, they get X points
What if they donate just 99? Do they get 99% or just none?
Same for โฌ, since the settings are saying each 1โฌ, but what about an x,yz donation?
Rounded up/down or %X?
Yo. Is there anyway i can get my alert sounds not to duplicate in Studio Mode in OBS?
Thanks!
Hi guys! I set up GroundControl and made a separate twitch account for my to be Bot. I also inserted the Oauth from the bot account. But when I press Test Bot it won't show my custom bot. If I Disable Custom Bot it shows the SE bot in my chat. What am I doing wrong?
hey guys! question, if i import quotes, do the duplicated ones stay duplicated or one gets deleted?
and in case they stay duplicated, how can i delete all the quotes
@oak bloom Double check the oauth? 
I did. I also disconnected bot twitch from oauth and reconnected it. Still won't work oO
@hushed ice Not positive. Our quotes system doesnt have any visual ui right now and i don't think i've ran into this question before...
I dont believe theres a way to delete all quotes, just one at a time afaik
and about the duplicates?
Im going to assume the duplicates stay, just as another number
@oak bloom Let me test rq
Someone donated to my wife's stream, about $15 but the amount doesn't appear in paypal.
It was done via the streamelements tip page. (I confirmed with the guy, the paypal email is correct and he couldn't have known it otherwise and he definitely didn't refund it)
What gives?
We dont touch any money from donations. Either the payment didnt go through, which it sounds like it did go through.
Or the email in the donation settings is incorrect which is why it wasnt recieved on your end
or the grinch took it
@oak bloom Is the name you're using in Ground Control matching your bot account username, and is it all lowercase?
It took a few moments for mine to work but it works for me

@pine hemlock thanks for the answer! It's very peculiar, I knew immediately something was off. Should we wait a couple more days or tell him to refund it immediately? What do you suggest?
Usually paypal stuff shows up in a few moments..also you would have gotten an email about the transaction.
I would doublecheck the email in the tipping settings for your wifes stream - if its correct and its still not showing up have the donator refund the money.
But yeah we just provide a visual element (webpage) for tips, all the money handling etc is all done via paypal, we never see anything. @olive bloom
@oak bloom whats your twitch
@pine hemlock, we never gotten an e-mail, that ticked me off initially. Again, thank you very much! The guy even subscribed later that day, he's a cool friend that wants to support us. I'll send him a message on fb to refund cause the money is probably gone to someone else.
Thank you sir!
No problem, goodluck
@oak bloom
Everything looks fine from what i can see
@clever mango Why would custom bot name not function with the right oauth+name
but then why won't it show as officer meme and only show as streamelements gotten custom bot is disabled? oO
its k im bothering someone who knows more
haha thx
is the bot a brand new account?
yes
Did you verify the email?
yes
Ok, are you logged in as the bot on twitch now? If not, go ahead and do that.
Clear anything that is in the custom bot name fields in ground control and then close the program
name and oauth
go here and generate a new token https://twitchapps.com/tmi/
Not necessary but you can if you'd like
ok I generated the token. copy the whole line including the oauth prefix?
yes everything in the box
launch ground control and paste it in the oauth field
Also, what version # do you see at the bottom of the settings?
done and it says v 1.4.3
@olive bloom id triple check with your friend that the donation was made to the right email account, since a refund will tax whoever got the donation 30$. which kinda sucks a lot
They only get the chargeback fee if they dispute it. and if they actually have to chargeback. Sometimes when stuff goes to the wrong email you can just go in paypal and hit cancel @hushed ice
ah cool
@clever mango log out of bot account and into main?
yes it does, thanks ๐
now you can log out of twitch and back in with your username
awesome, thank you very much for the quick help !
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Do you guys have plans to intergrate with the elgato streamdeck?
@twin urchin We would love to but it's up to them at this point. Check out the pinned message in #welcome about it.
oops sorry
Hi all! I used ground control to change my bot name, but the test bot isn't working. Verified oauth key is in.
I have no idea if the bot is working or not (it was enabled in streamelements web portal). Trying to drop or rejoin hasn't worked.
What is your twitch channel and the bot's name?
does streamelements take commission off our tips or not?
we don't touch any part of the money @quaint hull
Where do I look at Filtered Phrases, so I can add some new words? (Got a minor hit from a troll that has been making his way around Twitch Creative streamers with gross usernames... ๐ฉ )
Right here https://streamelements.com/dashboard/bot/filters ๐
Thanks! I was starting there, but I don't see a "Word Bank" or list so I can see what's there already. Is that a feature?
@lament blade Do you own the AdventureBot account on twitch?
Yes
Could we add some words to this global list? @cosmic latch has a whole spreadsheet of 300+ names, and I think some common words could be derived from that list and updated on this list that have been used frequently in a recent wave of troll usernames in our shared communities. Help would be appreciated!
Any ideas why my recent subscribers arent showing up on my dashboard/overlay
@candid frigate we are working on a larger global banned words system
@onyx mirage are you a recent affiliate ?
@dense jackal That is wonderful to hear! Thank you! ๐
@dense jackal Yes I am
Try relogging into your streamelements account, we don't pull sub api until you can start getting subs so it takes a refresh or some time before it kicks in ๐
whenever you delete a song from the songqueue (whilst it's playing), the next song always finishes early?
I'll see what happens. It also hasn't been displaying hosts or raids, only follows
Is there a way you can set the Say field of the command response from chat?
so that is whispers
wow command_share channel is an awesome idea!
@onyx mirage idk about raids but you need to keep ground control app open for host alerts
!host
Twitch doesn't have a "notification system" for hosts (unlike follows, subs, raids, etc.) so the only way for StreamElements to know that you are being hosted is to connect through you to twitch. This connection is made on:
- SE Dashboard page - https://streamelements.com/dashboard
- SE Activity Feed page - https://streamelements.com/dashboard/activity
- Ground Control desktop app - https://streamelements.com/groundcontrol
Please have one of these open during your stream in order to receive host event notifications.
Hey @stone spire ! Yes you can, just change in the Advanced Options of your command your response type to "Whisper" !
yeaaah
but I mean, is it possible to do through chat commands?
like !cmd edit ... etc

Let me give it a try
@stone spire Not sure it's possible, I asked other SE heroes and champions, I'll tell you if something comes up
!cmd
You can make changes to custom commands in chat with!command add/remove/edit/options/show Valid flags for !cmd options are: -cd (number) -usercd (number) -cost (number) -level (number) -type (say, whisper or reply) -count (number). --- Example: !cmd options twitter -usercd 60 -type reply -level 250
@stone spire, thanks to Onslaught that should help !
sweet tyvm!

question, is there command add shortcuts?
@mighty tree What do you mean ?
well you know how nightbot has !addcom is there something similar?
or is it just !command add
i am just curious
!commad add or !cmd add work @mighty tree
@dense jackal Thanks man.
np 
how to change the User level for a command via chat?
@winter scarab
Chat/Bot Levels
100 - viewer
250 - subscriber
300 - __regular __
500 - moderator (twitch mods automatically placed at this level)
1000 - super moderator
1500 - broadcaster
Dashboard Manager Levels (least to most access)
Bot Supervisor (can add super moderators from dashboard)
Editor
Full Access
https://i.imgur.com/s61Liry.png
Is the StreamElements Discord bot available for public consumption?
there is no discord bot
at least that I'm aware of
well, we do have it here but, there's no option for everyone to use, I do think it's something in the plans ๐
Wassup guys
I dont know, maybe someone already said something like this, but anyway: "Is there is any chance that we will get some sort stuff in Stream Store in future?" I mean change positions of Items, create some groups maybe and stuff...
hey @rough jacinth I do believe it has been suggested
hmm it's marked as complete ๐ฎ
Marked as "Completed" cuz of "Sort" function. By price, by newest.
yeah
if you can/want suggest your ideas on the board https://strms.net/ideas
yeah, it's a great idea
yep, upvoted it, do it as well if u can
@rough jacinth I'm interested too in sorting my store the way I want, upvoted as well !
Post was created 3 months ago... ๐ฆ
there's a lot of requests, things take time but devs were busy with a big project and from now on all other requests should be done faster
I also upvoted because I love the Idea and NEED IT
yeah same here
I have like 50 items in my store
And it looks like junktown right now
just bloody mess of items
hello ๐
i just want to ask if the loyalty awards still works even tho i am not streaming?
loyalty points*
Haha, I'm just curious, can I see what your store looks like @rough jacinth ?
nope, only when online/streaming
@vapid badge https://streamelements.com/drkiray/store
@chilly crater
@gentle imp Thanks โค
@vapid badge but this is on RU lang, so ^^
you're welcome ๐
Oh, 70 items, miscalculated in prev msg
@rough jacinth Thanks dude!
i got an email about why i havnt streamed who do i talk to
@ebon forum there you go, amazing Russian Redemption Store for your example list from @rough jacinth ๐
why u no stream? 
can we talk in a dm?
Sure, np
@misty wagon omg 50 panels, 4 bots, me confused 
but amazing store examples!! 
4 bots in current year 

Why would someone need so many bots? 
espesially if they alreaddy have StreamElements
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hello?
Ok, is there any Mobile Extention comming? Because I use the web one, but still waiting for a mobile version.
You mean Like GroundControlls but as a App for Android/Ios ?
None of both...
Read this: https://blog.twitch.tv/unlock-your-streams-full-potential-with-extensions-now-on-twitch-mobile-apps-15be83a89989?source=collection_home---4------0----------------
Sean! Finally!
This was posted very recently, so I doubt it's been properly discussed yet
Right, okay
I haven't heard anything about it, but considering it's very new it probably still needs to be discussed
Hello! Is here where i can ask help about twitch?
This is meant for StreamElements related questions, you could ask in #welcome for more general questions
Of course ๐
Its about streamelements x)
Well then of course 
Then shoot! 
So, it seems that my twitch channel isnt working anymore with streamelements; for example the commands (!stuff) dont work anymore and some parts of the overlays dont work like. I dont know if i touched something or its my nickname changing that "broke" something ๐ thanks in advance for the help ๐
If you changed your nickname @opaque parcel log out and log back into StreamElements!
Did! that didnt fix the problem 
no no you are doing it wrong 
- part the bot
2)log out of StreamElements
3)log back into with twitch - let the bot join the channel again
^
gonna try
if it still dont work come here and tell us 
@winter zenith knows 
Wait wait, part the bot means?.... sorry for my newbie behavior :C
If you are on your SE dashboard
there is a little panel on the right in the middl of the screen
there it states "part channel"
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also you should add your twitch channel to your discord profile ๐ So I can check on you myself
Gonna do it! give me a sec
no rush just a suggestion 
That'll do it ๐
@opaque parcel did all the good stuff โค
also added the twitch into discord profile
Fixed! ๐ Super support
I am so proud of you 
From 0 to this, its a big step for me monkaS x)
I did nothing you did all the work
and now you know how to fix it yourself if you ever change your name again
and if not? dont hesitate to come her again and ask 
can give some feedback somewhere for the help? ๐ฎ
I will be here 
you can tell @serene granite how sweet I am
if you know what I mean 

i'll do ahah
( I am just kidding I just do my job of saving the world in the name of StreamElements)
@serene granite Kiwa (with Sean assist) saved my streamer life ;D 10/10 support chat
!uptime ๐
now
!downtime also works 
its a default command
@winter zenith Anton is german, might be easier in that case ๐
Oh Anton kein problem!
wenn du wissen willst wie lange du schon streamst kannst du !Uptime oder !downtime verwenden 
See where my users see me streaming without commands
Nope
@atomic hollow
nein ich suche das wo die zeit sich addiert also immer sichtbar ist
du meinst als overlay onstream?
Du meinst das On Stream zu sehen ist wieviel Zeit vergangen ist seit du deinen stream Gestartet hast @native horizon ?
Hello !!, sorry for ask . but i have lot of problems with the notifications :S
sometimes, the bot didnt show the sub or hosts alerts i reset the cachรฉ, i tried to kick and join the bot again , and well. the problem persist
can u try to help me , thanks you ! (Spanish language its my main , so feel free to talk me in both languages. Thanks you again )
@native horizon wenn Ja so ein Feature gibt es noch nicht aber die Developer haben es vor!
https://streamelements.helprace.com/i241-counting-up-timer
@lament blade There's a pinned message in this channel about what you need to do for host alerts ๐ also sub alerts work as long as the person shares their sub through Twitch
No problem
anyone else here got denied partnership even tho u get over 100 viewers?
ive had over 100 viewers for the past 2 month hit all milestones and there still like nah fam no partnership for u
#demotivated
true
they dont even give u a reason
hi there, i hope i am posting in the right spot. i was wondering if there was a way that you can automate the raffles to start up every 30 minutes or so. i added a timer in stream elements with it just saying !raffle or !sraffle. the message is sent to the chat but the raffle doesnt start
hey @visual sorrel sadly putting it on timers won't work
dang, so is there a way to automate then, or do i or one of my mods always have to start it up
also, is it safe to say that i cant setup any timers for any of the commands then
like !status
bot used to respond to some but the raffle one stopped working, dunno if it will be back
checking
I was looking at raffle module, have you tried the multi?
it's a module I never tried personally was just wondering if that's something that auto repeats or just allows multiple entries
probably just has multiple winners, damn ๐
I think the StreamElements bot is getting little laggy. The command response is a little delayed.
if you are offline it takes a while
I am live though. Right now
Question: I am trying to help a streamer with an issue. She has an alert set with an overlay and obs browser source captue. Everything seems to work but the gif wont appear. The sound and everything works, just not the gif. Any ideas?
Have she saved the Overlay?
Yes
Other alerts work 100% fine.
I didnt know if there is maybe a gif requirement we are missing?
So which alerts are not working?
Scare alert
it's probably setup as sound not a redemption
sound effect, won't trigger/show images
Interesting. Ok. I will look into that part thank you. Secondly, any idea why sometimes it does the noise twice?
Yeah! WOW. Yeah. StreamElements is being a huge delay on me...
I got a follow but like in chat took like 15 to 20 seconds to notice...
that is because you either have editor open or didn't tick shutdown source when not visible on all browser sources @floral swan must be done on all scenes
@gentle imp ive tried both single raffle and mutli, no go for either, and yes, multi raffle gives multiple winners
yeah, you or mods need to start it manually
you can however add it to ideas board https://strms.net/ideas
I honestly don't know, never tried them but I assume it won't
ok, thanks
bot triggering bot can be a little dangerous and go into loops if missused
if u put a trigger that triggers another, and so on
Question. How can I stop people that have followed from unfollowing and refollowing? Just curios if there is a way to have it be a one and done and not something that happens over and over. Thanks
@lament blade there is now way to stop someone from doing that, but we do have logic in place that should stop them from getting rewarded multiple times
Has the !songqueue command been fixed yet?
How do I put my Youtube and stuff like that into my overlay?
are you using a super theme? @supple ermine
thats a super theme ๐
you need to edit the overlay of your desire in the overlay editor
is there a way to add a command that will insert todays date and time?
someone wants me to create a RIP command and I was thinking of it saying Rest in Peace (streamer name) on (todays date and time)- is that possible?
You can use a custom API like https://docs.decapi.me/misc?endpoint=time to insert the time for a specified timezone
@fallen lava
hmm @clever mango thanks i took a look at it but that might be over my head haha
It's really not difficult. Just add the timezone after time in the URL $(customapi.https://decapi.me/misc/time)
Song request is still not working - for some reason when my viewer do a !sr it is not adding their song to the queue any ideas? I've got youtube.com whitelisted, I have the viewers added as regulars, I checked and double checked the Link Protections - I'm just stuck and don't know what else to look at - plz help
where do you live @fallen lava
im on eastern time zone @clever mango i originally did it and it came up with all the time zones in the code so i think i just needed to add the time zone at the end?
yep
@fallen lava $(customapi.https://v1.decapi.me/misc/time/US/?timezone=America/New_York)
you can add date as well by adding the "?format=" parameter at the end. https://secure.php.net/manual/en/function.date.php#refsect1-function.date-parameters This allows you to customize the output
but you've got time at least now ๐
thats awesome @clever mango thank you! i will look into the date format
I'm live and I can use the the !sr and add songs to the queue, but none of my viewers can... the links are not being deleted, but when they use the !sr it doesn't add the song to the queue.
@storm ledge You have the minimum level for song request as Broadcaster meaning only you can do it
@tight harness omgosh ... why can't I figure this stuff out on my own sighs Thank you!
No problem ๐
is anyone available to help with the weirdness I am experiencing with deepbot and spotify?
wait. wrong discord
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sigh
^
โคด
if they upgrade their custom commands system I will look at it ;)
but it's far too basic for what I've got for now
hehe hard to please everyone, I've had ppl saying it's too complicated ๐
Guilty ๐๐ผ
but anyway, good luck ๐
I've got full games written in deep bot, full of custom character creation, shops, etc. as well as a database of ships and outfitting that I fly for elite, etc.
damn ๐
hehe also noticed you need to update your twitch channel on discord profile @lament blade
oh yeah
had too google your new channel ๐
thanks for that, I totally spaced on discord
np
How to get to widgets on streamlabs?
Regarding Tipping on the Song Request Media Share side - if I want to set the minimum tip required to $0.25 cents - do I enter 25 or .25?
@nimble zinc create overlay on our site, copy link, add as browser source
@storm ledge 1. you would enter .25. 2. Paypal minimum fees are more than that, we recommend at least $1
@weary mist these overlays seem to not fit??
like the youtube twitch, and all that at the top seem to be really blurry
Make sure when you put it into the broadcasting sofware you put in the widget at 1920, and height at 1080, then hit CTRL+f
If you don't change the width and height, it defaults to 800x600, and you will get the blurryness when you try to fit it to the screen
gotcha!
@weary mist on the game one, i seem to not be able to see the recent follow/ sub/ cheer/ donation
like blurred
i have set the resolution width and hieghth up to 1920 x 1080
can you DM me a screenshot of what you are seeing?
i had some one donate to me though stream elements and it hasnt posted and ithe person siad it was taken out of there pay pal and i cant see it on my dashborad
did it appear in your paypale?
your link on your page for tipping is for streamlabs
@weary mist pmed!
no i hasnt even ent to my paypal
@prime wraith your tip link is to streamlabs, not streamelements
we don't record tips through that link
she didnt go to the tab i have i typed the command i use
and it showed streamelemnts
ModeratorVerifiedStreamElements: @prime wraith You can Tip to jaws577 using this link https://StreamElements.com/jaws577/tip this is what showed first
@prime wraith right now, there is no issues reported by paypal with their API. Check to make sure that the paypal address you have set up in the system is correct
Can anyone help me
@dire axle possible, if you explain what the issue is. otherwise I could just try to guess
@prime wraith yes
lol sorry, I am trying to start a twitch streaming channel, but i am doing so over Xbox One so it is difficult to add Over Lays i joined here because i am using Streamer Elements to try to add overlays and moderate my channel. So i was just wodnering if anyone could help me add overlays
Do you have a streaming PC with a capture card?
I am on my Computer and only have OBS
I just turn on my xbox and start streaming most of the time
i use my xbox as well i know there is a way you can do overlays but its a bit complex
You need a capture card
Other wise would just have a stream with no donation alerts or follow alerts with a facecam?
You would have a PC that is dedicated to streaming, and the capture card hooked up to the PC will be used to capture the Xbox output, you would then add the overlay through your broadcast software, with the capture, to composite the video output
Ok Thank you for your help i
you can always use chat alerts
i just use the chat alrets for nw
i set up my paypal to streamelements and still not
nothing
that will only work going forward @prime wraith. There is nothing we can do about previous donations. If they used your original link, it should not have worked wihtout a paypal address attached
well there goes my dream R.I.P
@dire axle his issue is unrelated. And if you want to use our alerts and stuff, you might want to switch, otherwise we won't be able to detect tips
thanks for the help
IK. Twitch is difficult to get a good following and OverLays for m beacuse i have no knowledge
of this
thats fine, we are here to help you out
Thabk you for that. But i cannot afford a decent capture card or pc to stream
Then you should really look into using the SE bot with the alert module, the bot alone can add a lot for your viewers to interact with, and you can still have some form of alert
thats fine, like i said before. For the moment, you can use Chat Alerts, where the bot will announce in chat when an event happens
What website would i find Chat ALerts?
From your StreamElements dashbaord, it's on the left hand side under the bot settings, under modules
Chat Commands?
I see
So i would have to change from Streamer Labs to Streamer Elements to get chat alerts for donations?
yes
Ok i will try
it is a simple transition, just need to put your paypal email address into the tip settings page, and change your panels to https://www.streamelements.com/your_twitch_username/tip
Ok
Hello, I was helping a friend set up SE GC and noticed they have an option for Custom Bot Name. When I look in my ground control it doesn't show this in the settings? I have uninstalled and reinstalled GC but still nothing new (settings were preserved from previous install)?
Mac or PC
PC
Custom bot name requirements
- StreamElements bot modded and in chat
- Active overlay with alerts
- StreamElements tipping page in the panels below the stream (!panels)
- Create a twitch account for the name you want to use
- Ground Control app must be running
Steps to enable custom name
- Sign in to https://twitch.tv with the bot account
- Install and run Ground Control (!gc for download)
- Visit https://twitchapps.com/tmi/ and generate an oAUTH token
- Copy/paste everything in the box to Ground Control oAuth settings and enter the name for the bot account
- Restart Ground Control (custom name may take a few minutes to take effect)
Awh, Let run through and double check all that... I may be missing one.
@weary mist Thank You For your help i think i have changed the donation links
@latent creek sounds good, let us know if you still have problems with the rename
So if i use the Bot Modules do i have Streamer Elements bot in my chat?
If you added the bot to your channel, you should see StreamElements in your chat
In your StreamElements dashboard, towards the upper right, there is a bot settings box, if you have a join channel option, you want to do that to join the bot
make sure on your main dashboard page that you have clicked "Join Bot"
so on my new overlay that i got from stream elements, how do i reset the counter on the starting soon?
how to remove custom commands from another bot?
since they are mixed and duplicated by both bots and some of the team on the ground the bot is irrelevant
@nimble zinc you just need to refresh the cache on the overlay. This can be done a couple ways. 1. If you have "Shutdown when not visible" checked, then you just need to hide then unhide the overlay. 2. If you don't have that, then double click the source, scroll down, and click refresh
@narrow coyote got it working with your rename list! THANK YOU!
@dire magnet If you want to remove them from our bot, you can do it in the chat commands sectiion. We don't have any information for other bots, as they are seperate companies

Thank You @weary mist @narrow coyote For your help



any twitch gods out there
depends on which type of gods you are looking for
just trying to find someone that can help with page set up or can help with the graphic design
@round stump if you check #art-marketplace, there are tons of artists that can help with that
awsum
i tried going there and it said i dont have permission to chat?
thank you @weary mist
@dire axle Correct, #art-marketplace is only for advertising. If you want to talk with an artist, contact them directly
Ok Thank you again xD
Hey dudes - Anyone here I can ask about a quick issue I'm having with overlays? ๐
just ask away, and someone will respond
Cooooool
Probably something pretty common but this keeps popping up bottom right of my overlays for whatever reason. I've refreshed the cache and that took it away for a bit but then it just pops up again later on.
Are you using OBS Studio or Classic?
Right click on the browser source, click on Properties, click on Refresh cache of current page ๐
Yeah but then it just comes back a bit later again
I mean I can tick on "Refresh browser when scene becomes active" if I need to
Is that what needs to happen?
Pretty sure I have that ticked myself, you basically get that if the overlay page wasn't able to load in your OBS
No problem
anybody else huge framedrops with streamelements settings ? if I put it off my obs is working well..
is there a possibility to load the overlay faster ?
should say its just today.. nothing changed from early stream today ^^
@lament blade Are you a StreamElements all-in-one streamer and interested in stream promotion when you go live? Please fill out this application https://strms.net/sellout and if you meet the 3 requirements posted in the :pushpin: pinned message in #general you will be added to the stream announcements.
congrats @lament blade
whats happening?
@tight harness do you know if the !songqueue command will be fixed any time soon?
hi guys!! whats the command to add regulars on twitch?
@upper steeple Can't say i've heard anything about it recently
@tight harness okay no problem, just wanted to check in
@upper steeple i see !songqueue is disabled on your channel
what was the problem with the command ?
it just responds with https://streamelements.com/lordfluffybutt2/songrequest
@serene granite i can't enable it cause it says it is connected to the module
i know, for now i had to make a custom command that puts that link in chat since the default command doesn't work
ok, we're completely remaking songrequest right now, and it will be out soon.
There's hope in sight!
yesh i know, i like that people can request songs by name now even though it doesn't always find the version they were wanting lol, but it still is great to see
guys please notice me ;_;
@teal yoke !level <username> 300
100 - Viewer, 250 - Sub, 300 - Regular, 500 - Mod, 1000 - Super Mod, 1500 - Broadcaster
It's pinned in this channel ๐
@tight harness i love you no KappaPride
๐
Everyone loves @tight harness

Hell yeah๐๐๐๐

I'm trying to run an overlay on my ps4 while i stream. can anyone walk me through the process?
do you have a streaming pc with a capture card that you are using to stream
no jus streaming through the ps4
is there a way to set exclude usergroup to none on link protection?
Unfortunately, since you are streaming straight from a PS4 this is not going to be possible. It would require doing something like having a dedicated streaming PC with a capture card. With this the capture card will get the output from the PS4, and you can then use broadcasting software (like OBS) to add the overlay to composite the video output for your stream
gotcha. jus thought i'd ask. i'm new to all this streaming stuff
No worries, we are here to help! You can still use the SE chat bot, with the alerts modules to get alerts for follows, tips, etc...
where can i find a guide on how to do that?
Always ask too much than too little :)
I'm trying too lol. I've been asking my buddy but he streams on pc so there's not much he knows about ps4 streaming
I'm a ps4 streamer :)
do you have twitch?
not sure if there is a guide on it, but it simple
you will need to first need to ensure you have added the SE bot to your channel. This is done from the SE dashboard, towards the upper right. there is a box that is "bot settings" and you can click join bot from there
We have a whole playlist guide here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUAmzaj70Js&index=8&list=PLCDDKlFdScbEwdx5AntcQIS1InkFJwHtv this one is for chat commands ๐
@sand meadow yup
then after that, on the left had side of the dashboard, towards the bottom, you will need to go into the modules under the bot section, and enable the chat alert module
you can then also customize it from there. Once this is done, you will see chat alerts when an event happens
@jade fjord you mind if i have it? I wanna see the setup you have for all this stuff
@sand meadow I'll dm :D
@jade fjord thanks man!
protip, link your twitch account to discord, people can then get to it just from going to your discord profile from your profile pic
thanks @narrow coyote
what do you need help with?
cant we talk??
I cant do voice, I am at work, then busy after that 
if you post your problem\question, more people can see it that could help
i use a pre set over lay and with a custom sound for my follows when i get a dono or follow all my overlays go off what do i do ??
!multi
Make sure to :ballot_box_with_check: โShutdown source when not visibleโ for all browser sources (all OBS scenes). If using studio mode, uncheck โSwap Preview/Output scenes After Transitioning.โ Also keep in mind that sound can play from any overlay loaded in the browser (editor or launched). https://i.imgur.com/FegZJQS.png https://i.imgur.com/yY0wcFl.png
you need to go into the browser source and ensure the shutdown source when not visible is checked, for all your scenes with a browser source. Otherwise you will get multiple sounds from the alert widgets
ok but now if i go to that scene it will take a couple secs for the over lay to show up?? is that true
!studiomode
Check out this tutorial for OBSโ studio mode which allows you to preload scenes before transitioning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8iWsD2Lq3U
thnx

Damn , i feel like support here is being done mostly by the bot 
@floral viper Hi. Yeah, advertisement is against the rules on this server. If you would like your stream announced here, you can be a sellout (information coming shortly on that). Please don't advertise again.
@floral viper Are you a StreamElements all-in-one streamer and interested in stream promotion when you go live? Please fill out this application https://strms.net/sellout and if you meet the 3 requirements posted in the :pushpin: pinned message in #general you will be added to the stream announcements.
@floral viper if you need help DM me :D
every time i switch back to my scene that has my hypecup, it always empty and fills itself back up. any way to have it to where it's always full and doesn't empty when i switch to a different scene and then switch back
is there a way i can enlarge my web can and the animated web cam box at once??
@jade fjord @jade fjord @jade fjord @jade fjord
@grim warren You'd have to have it in it's own overlay that doesn't shutdown
@knotty field No because the webcam is added into OBS as a Video Capture Device and the overlay is a Browser Source, they're separate
Can u tell me I can do to be a real twitch streamer @jade fjord
@tight harness alright, i'll give it a go
Alright 
@floral viper I dm d you :)
@floral viper so write to me there then๐๐
is there a way when you are redeeming your store items to have like a gif and sound pop up? or is it just sound?
How
There you accepted my request, write to me there๐
Hold on this message and pick "send message"
@lament blade You can show a gif and sound.. When making the item make sure its set to Stream Perk and then on step 2 make sure you have "Redeeming this item shows an alert" then add a store redemption on your overlay and your done
Guys how the Twitter module works? I tried it twice, i even added my twitter account at Follow section and i don't see any of my tweets in the twitch chat. Is it realtime or ?
yes, it is real time. make sure to add just your twitter handle, no @ needed
also hit enter after you finish typing, then click save
did that already Oo hmm i ll give it one more try
@weary mist actually do i have to be live in order for it to work? Because i am testing it right now while being offline and still doesn't work :/
What is your twitter?
@tight harness ok
That is my setting. Am i missing something?
try it again
i did another tweet just now
Let me send this to someone, there shouldn't be any reason that I can see that it isn't pushing the tweet to chat
Get dashboard access for their account (they'll need to give you this), then you can either make it on your account then export it to theirs or simply make it on their account for them
When you've got dashboard access and you're accessing his 'My Overlays' page you have the option to import an overlay from your 'My Overlays' page
i do have access what do i do now
Top right on the 'My Overlays' page
but its grayed out
Are you on their 'My Overlays' page or your own?
And do you have an overlay to import?
?? form his to mine or from mine to his
From yours to his, that's what you're wanting to do right?
Are you sure your friend gave you dashboard access? I don't see it on your account
Seems they didn't 
im logged on the acc on stream elements
So when I asked if you have dashboard access the answer is no, you don't. You need dashboard access for this feature to work
Dashboard access is done here: https://streamelements.com/dashboard/account/channels
You don't have it
At the link I just sent you
They go to the link I just sent you, then they create the link, then they give you the link
I'm having an issue with my alert sounds. When an alert happens, the sound associated with the alert comes through 2 or 3 times
@normal cove Make sure to :ballot_box_with_check: โShutdown source when not visibleโ for all browser sources (all OBS scenes). If using studio mode, uncheck โSwap Preview/Output scenes After Transitioning.โ Also keep in mind that sound can play from any overlay loaded in the browser (editor or launched). https://i.imgur.com/FegZJQS.png https://i.imgur.com/yY0wcFl.png
yeah now after i gen the link what do i do with it
After you generate the link? They generate the link
You don't need to generate a link, it's not your account you're trying to get access to
Bot solved the issue for me, thanks @lament blade
Awesome 
i got the link form his stream elements now what do i do with it
Click it
Havenโt been here in awhile since I had everything setup but how can I adjust notifications for cheers? Iโd like to set minimum amounts to show up so I donโt get trolled with 1 bit donations
so if i add this overlay with resend dono and shit like that i will it be mine or his on the oveylay
overlay
@olive cedar go to your overlay with the alert box, click the alertbox widget, click the gear, and it should be right there
If you resend on his account it'll obviously be his donations
resent donos and shit
Do you mean recent or resend?
like i clicked the link not im adding the shit for his overlay and its showing my resent sub and shit so when he uses it will it be mine or his donos and subs
Are you sure you're not still looking at your own account instead of accessing his account?
Hello, I have a quick question and it may be really dumb but I want to know if something in my settings is off or if itโs normal. Does stream elementsโ alerts go off when the stream is offline? When I test the follow button in my overlay everything works fine but when I ended my stream, someone followed my channel and I still had OBS running but nothing came through. Nothing showed on the activity feed through the app on my desktop either, I just got a notification via email. Very curious. Thank you!
Those are on your account, not his
Hence why you see your info, not his
You're still looking at your own account as I suspected
Click this button and copy the overlay to your friend's account (it should pop up as an option). Then switch to their dashboard to find it and edit it further if you want.
you switch by clicking on your channel at the top of the page and choosing your friend
@lament blade Things go through when offline, just at a slower rate
So the activity feed not showing that follow may take a lot longer. So if I check it now, it may show? @pine hemlock
Probably
We poll for new followers about every 10 minutes when offline
about every 30 seconds when live
Just checked. Nothing. Itโs been way longer than 10 mins. Is there a setting I may have messed with?
Has this person followed the account before?
Nope.
who followed?
After I went offline, some account followed. Never heard the name before. They never followed before either. So itโs not like it was a follow/ unfollow/ refollow where it wouldnโt pop up.
The last follow you received was baileylitz72 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
anyone use xplit before with stream elements that could help? @everyone
One second.
@tidal raptor If we didn't disable @ everyone you would have just pinged 15,000 people
oh haha
Oh lol. It wasnโt a follow it was a subscription. Even better. But shouldnโt that come up still too? Along with 10 bits they donated ? I used stream labs in the past and just to test out I went on their feed and it showed the two items. Something may be wrong in my overlay or settings. For it not to refresh correctly.
@tidal raptor We have 2 resident xsplit support people but both are EU so they may be asleep right now. @winter zenith @ebon forum One of them will be able to help you when they come back around.
ok thx
So that person must have followed a while ago with me not knowing which is why that didnโt pop up. Which makes sense. But on the activity feed it should show the 10 bits and sub.
When approximately did the person subscribe and send bits?
Approx 1 hr
Twitch prime (new and resub) and paid subscriptions (resub only) must be shared in chat manually by the person subscribing in order for the subscription information to be sent to StreamElements. For twitch prime, the user needs to have sharing enabled on https://www.twitch.tv/settings/prime. For paid subs, if the share box doesn't show up immediately it will when they refresh the page. https://i.imgur.com/VNJN0Uv.gif https://i.imgur.com/2297EA7.png
the second screenshot
I donโt believe so. Oh that may be why. So that sub wouldnโt go on the activity feed still? Unless they did that?
Yes, unless the person decides to share their subscription we aren't notified
And what about the bits? Shouldnโt that go on the feed?
You just became an affiliate today?
Yep.
It's because after someone becomes an affiliate, we need to enable subs and cheers in your streamelements account and that requires logging out and back in to refresh the connection between twitch and StreamElements.
You most likely were still recognized in our system as non-affiliate when that cheer went through
If you see cheers and subs on your SE dashboard now, then from now on you'll receive those activities. (subs need to be shared as mentioned above)
Incredible. I thank you so much. @clever mango I apologize if I wasted your time. Iโm new to all of this. Thanks again.
No problem. That's what we're here for.
Have a great night.
You too
@clever mango If I logged out and still don't see an option for subs on the left side, is there something else I can do? I was going to reset my token key and it said it will log me out there and I hit yes but nothing happened.
If you go to the activity feed page you should see this on the right side
Yep. I see all of those but the activity feed is still the same.
Do you want me to test a follow or something? and see if it pops up on the feed?
The activity feed will be the same until you receive a new activity
We don't receive events from the past. If you'd like to add your subscriber to your overlay widgets, you can edit the data by clicking on Widget Data just below box I screenshotted โคด
You can add their name as the latest subscriber manually
Yeah. Have all that setup. I'll just go to my custom bot I setup via the stream elements ground control and follow my stream to test if I get a new activity on the feed. Wait 10 mins or so and if it doesn't pop up something else may be wrong.
Ok
You're welcome
I need help getting affiliate does that count?
This is for StreamElements support but you can chat with other streamers in #welcome or #general-chat
Whoops my bad
hey guys got a problem 3 - 4 minute songs arent beibg added to the songrequest when soneone requests a song
it says its to long or cang be found p
What do your songrequest settings look like
there using defult settings
idk what the defaults are but you can increase the song duration limit here: https://streamelements.com/dashboard/songrequest/settings
its in seconds
anyone know off the top of their head the percentage paypal takes from stream elements donations? Or does the percentage vary based off of how much I would assume not though?
PayPal charges a fee of 2.9% + 30 cents for goods and services.
โฌ in the US. Fees vary internationally.
ah true!
!extension
Our Panel extension can be added to your channel here: https://www.twitch.tv/ext/uaw3vx1k0ttq74u9b2zfvt768eebh1
im having an issue where the bot is connected to my twitch account but the bot is not actually in my chat it was working fine until i changed my name but i dont think that has anything to do with it and none of my commands work in chat either
What is your new twitch, try relogging your streamelements account, as well as parting and rejoining the bot
What is your new name
ok i fixed it some how dont know what i did
When you change your name it sometimes needs a refresh to be working again ๐ seems it kicked in!
ok how do i get the text to appear in my chat i mean when i type in my chat it comes up on my stream has just my twitch name.
What is the name of your twitch channel? so I can closely see the issue
gamingdemon222
You're using the chat widget on your overlay and you are only seeing a username?
and not what the person said?
yes
try adding a completely fresh chat widget or changing the color/size of the text
ok
there we go wow it was a really ez problem i think i need to go to bed really late
All good ๐ 
but thank u so mush
its fixed for me it was set to 5 seconds :/ so i changed it to 5300
@tidal raptor hello whats your problem with se and xsplit ? 
Help! I play CS in 4:3 and I already set my obs to that resolution but idk how to set my overlay to that res it keeps just cutting half of it out someone plz help!
@knotty lagoon hi, why stream in 4:3?
You can play the game that way sure
But why not set your streaming resolution to 1080x720 so the overlays work?
Many people stream games that are 4:3 no need to make the whole stream resolution 4:3 just have letterboxes left and right is still ok in my belives
if you must stream on 4:3 set the overlay to 720p like Kiwa said and on the game capture source press Ctrl+F so it fills screen, it will distort but look better than black bars on the sides @knotty lagoon
thank you guys so much im new to streaming and i didnt know and works now thx @winter zenith @gentle imp

uhm i have a question i have the defult shark as my follow thing but when someone follows only half of it shows up how do i fix this?
@lament blade The default resolution for StreamElements overlays (theme and custom) is 1920x1080. Please add them in OBS at their full resolution and use CTRL+F to fit to screen if necessary. You can then downscale your stream in OBS settings > Video if you'd like https://i.imgur.com/6bWXxjR.png
so if i replace the video in the future should it still work with the same resulution?
Yes, the resolution is the canvas size (the green background in the overlay editor). Whatever it is, the browser source dimensions in OBS must match.
The alertbox is just a part within the whole browser source page
Helloo everyone
I try to setup my stream with streamelements and my donations - followers or subscribers dont seem to show up on stream
do you have an alertbox in the overlay?
gosh
im stupid
im sorry
no i don't
thank you very much
Oh and
I have 2 overlays, 1 for in game and 1 for lobby ( league of legends)
and my lobby seems to work fine
but my in game doesnt work because my lobby will "overlap" the in game overlay
whenever I try to change the url of my in game browser source it will change back to the url of the lobby overlay
is it because i have both of the overlays in Sources?
make sure to tick on all browser sources "shutdown when not visible" @agile lake
I have ticked on it
so whenever you want to switch to another one, u can either have 2 scenes or just make browser source invisible, the eye thing on OBS
oh wait, I missread
so with 1 overlay u can see game without issues?
the only one which works fine is the lobby one
but when i have the overlay of the in game
it just stays at the lobby overlay
and doesn't switch to the in game overlay
but when i check both URL's
they are the same
you must hide the lobby overlay
every time i go into game?
oh, they can't have same name or it will keep changing
setup 2 scenes, one lobby with lobby overlay in it
another one named game with game overlay and also the game capture
when adding both sources, don't use existing one, make a new one
if you use an existing one, it's same instance so whenever you change url it changes on all browser sources using that source on all scenes
hope I made it clear enough ๐
Ah i see
but do i have to switch scenes everytime i go into game?
because that wouldnt make sense haa
haha*
yep unless I'm missing something
that sucks :x
okay i tried it
and it worked
but 1 thing..
sorry for being such a pain
I see you writing



thanks