battlefield-2042

[versed lily]

Pls bro

[stone cradle]

It's literally publicly available info

[versed lily]

Pls remove message

[stone cradle]

just tap your profile pic

[versed lily]

I’m removing from profile pls remove

Pls delete message I remove from profile pls sir

[nimble cipher]

ThicChksOnly, nice name

[versed lily]

Pls delete bro pls

Pls they will revoke my acces to play test pls bro

[pine roost]

Now you’ve done it

Shouldn’t have mentioned the test

[nimble cipher]

ur cooked

[versed lily]

Pls be good person to me pls

[edgy kite]

chill nothing will happen

[versed lily]

Ok good

I change my username because someone reported me for announcing

[stone cradle]

leaked implies it was hidden to begin with

[edgy kite]

yeah Juicy dont be a rude now

[versed lily]

Just delete the pixture why you act like this

[stone cradle]

'as good as possible' literally on his profile

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-hackerman-kung-fury-gif-7953536

[vocal tusk]

Me when I lie

[stone cradle]

what if he is related to someone at EA

[vocal tusk]

IS BATTLEFIELD LABS OPEN TO ALL REGIONS?

Initial tests will include an invited group of players and servers located in Europe and North America ahead of plans to expand server locations, alongside invite numbers growing to tens of thousands, in the future.

[stone cradle]

I mean, he could've lied about his region

[naive ember]

What's with the names on your profile with lions doing something?

[vocal tusk]

Might have been more believable if they actually read

[round sentinel]

When are invites going to be completed by? (when can I stop crossing my fingers)

[spring fern]

the link they put on steam community goes to the spanish verison of the labs page and now Im worried I need to learn spanish to be able to join

[round sentinel]

There is an English version, try the link in #battlefield-labs-news and turn off vpns because generally localization is done by your ip

[stone gazelle]

battlefield is violent

like why add guns to a game about farming bats?

[naive ember]

[naive ember]

[stone gazelle]

bat field

field of bats

farm bats

quite obvious 🙄

[naive ember]

You 2025 guys are special

[stone gazelle]

Tyty my tism was hand crafted with the rays of a dying star

by 28 dwarves from the next universe over with hammers made of adhd

[naive ember]

[violet nimbus]

Not received an email from EA and my available time is in just over an hr. We still doing this?

[still vault]

Why would you expect to receive a mail from EA within an hour?

and what does it have to do with #battlefield-2042 ?

[brittle wind]

I assume more than 1M applied for labs and they said they are going to accept several 1000s of people

We ain't getting in lol

Content creators and pro players will 100% get in though

At least for first few tests

Last tests might as well be open beta

[still vault]

Some maybe, but for a closed Alpha they would need regular players of all kinds most I would imagine.

This channel is about Battlefield 2042. This server is a public server for Battlefield as a whole.
As for any playtest you are talking about, I don't know if it is real but do be aware that any playtests are probably covered by NDA and you might be breaking the contact by revealing stuff out in public.

[grim tangle]

I keep reading this channel name as 2142 and get disappointed every time I realize I read wrong

[still vault]

#battlefield-legacy-titles covers every other Battlefield game, also 2142

[naive ember]

2042 is the best battlefield btw

[violet nimbus]

Okay, but I have not revealed anything. I have not shown any game footage or said what I am testing cos I don't even know. I joined this server from the EA website cos I felt I could get some help here but I was wrong. I'll wait for them to contact me, if they don't then that's it.

[brittle wind]

If I get in to labs I will be leaking everything

[bold charm]

oh my fucking god i hate redacted

its bf sad attempt at trying to make zane viable

im telling you remove redacted zane’s player count will reduce to like barely anybody

its metro but suddenly there 20 dudes shooting you behind cover

And they hit

you think getting shot behind cover 20 times is fun

Congrats you just described redacted

[winter flame]

I have a question. Pretty offentligt when I spot on Q the game starts to make some sort of other comand that comes out by long pressning Q (cant remember atm). Is that happening to ypu guys as well or is my keyboard messed up?

Pressning Q fast is only supposed to spot right?

[bold charm]

theres 20 of these dudes how tf is one gonna make a ny different

[winter flame]

When I play recon and spot through the scope. Often my game un-scopes.

[bold charm]

thats until a map where theres only like 4 entry points

[spiral peak]

Is the servers down I’m getting a lot of lobbies with bots

[bold charm]

amazing team cause somehow theres a dude that got 82 kills on my game in redacted

am i supposed to be surprised here

cause 82 is a lot

[brittle wind]

Zain will always be useful

Due to his passive

[simple galleon]

https://youtu.be/fKjrj5jRU7Y?si=k3Z1eMaZZmT6pp0J

Y embed no work

[naive ember]

[naive ember]

Feb 1 is goated

[broken vine]

Hi where can I find squadmates?

[acoustic seal]

damn, 2042 really rattled focus's brain

[brittle wind]

#lfg-pc

[broken vine]

Thanks

[frozen loom]

What an odd skin.

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/isaac-clarke-skate3-isaac-skate-dead-space-make-us-whole-gif-27485812

[frozen loom]

He's the Everyman.

Can do it all.

[brittle wind]

I hope next BF stays away from ridiculous skins although I would've liked to see more skins from EA games

Where is Mirror's Edge inspired Paik skin?

[stone cradle]

Wouldn't the Faith skin fit Mackay better since he can run faster?

[brittle wind]

Faith is an asian female similar to Paik though

[brisk robin]

Hello

Whats is you favourite battelfild?

mine 4, 1 and 2042

[brittle wind]

3, 5 and 2142

[weary python]

bfp4f, 3 and 4

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption-ii-rdr2-the-dancer-red-dead-redemption-rdr-gif-26241564

[frozen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-space-stomp-stomping-isaac-clarke-stop-it-gif-27372414

Doom 3 is still scarier.

Sam Fisher or Solid Snake would work as a skin in BF 2042 I think.

For the right operator.

[orchid tusk]

when'd you find that?

[brittle wind]

Boris Sam Fisher, Mackay Solid Snake?

[frozen loom]

Just now.

MaKay with

Apex Legend's Pathfinder skin.

Boris is pretty much fat Fisher.

[brittle wind]

Mackay has skins that looks like Titanfall 2 characters honestly, looks pretty cool

[frozen loom]

MaKay could also be the guy from Just Cause.

https://tenor.com/view/just_cause_3-rico-rodriguez-videogamedunkey-car-open-world-gif-24481822

Boris is a prime example of what happens when anyone gets older. Their facial bone structure gets wider, but his is extreme.

I'm not a fan of wide faces.

[brittle wind]

His concept art looked cool

[frozen loom]

How so?

[brittle wind]

Mackay's T1 skin also looked better in concept art

[frozen loom]

Casper looks the best, imo.

Because he's always cloaked.

Same with Dozer.

[brittle wind]

You can look up to it in BF wiki

I don't want to share links I might get a timeout

Youtube is fine but some others gives me timeout

[frozen loom]

The ski mask is not doing him any favors.

[brittle wind]

Yep, this

[frozen loom]

He basically looks like the gun shield guy from R6.

Side note: the guy just got a rework.

Blackbeard.

[brittle wind]

What happened to blackbeard? I haven't played siege in like 2 years

[frozen loom]

He has a giant shield now. Got it in the last update.

[brittle wind]

Too bad

[frozen loom]

It looks like a better kit, tbh.

[last island]

Hi there, just got battlefield 2042 cuz I was bored and just wondering why this game is hated on so much? I’ve played it for the last couple hours and have loved every minute of it.

[brittle wind]

I don't think siege needed another shield operator

[frozen loom]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Q3UV_IFQew4?si=OB3UwuIzpmgYXAHv

Makes Oryx useless.

Well. Not really since they're on opposite sides.

[acoustic seal]

lack of content, poor map quality, lack of post-launch support, bugs, poor balancing, poor operator design

[kindred flint]

so basically your standard BF rollout then?

[acoustic seal]

at least these days lol

[naive ember]

Who hates the game?

[kindred flint]

its also a much better experience with all the content available to you instead of waiting for it to be drip fed out

sure you have to unlock battle pass weapons but that can be done in 10 mins vs bots so, not a real struggle

[acoustic seal]

yeah it took about 2 years of patches to get the game up to where it should've been on launch and then they soft-dropped support lol

except for the input bug which is still in the game

[frozen loom]

The Office is overrated.

Popular opinion.

[naive ember]

Only yours

[frozen loom]

[naive ember]

[main vale]

2042 Riddle I'm shot from the Earth. I Screech in the sky. I spot you with my little eye now you must die. What am I.

[naive ember]

A bug

[vocal tusk]

blocked

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

ICYMI: Registration for #Battlefield Labs is officially open! 🟢

Join us on Discord to learn more 👉 http://discord.gg/Battlefield

It’s time to start cooking.

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Feb 6, 2025, 4:04 PM

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[broken vine]

Anyone wants to play? Looking for a squad

[chilly jacinth]

A broken AI

[long herald]

That quirky screen tv missle thingy

[thorny wyvern]

As a digital Artist and 3d modeler, I would love to see the new things coming, I'm very exited to see if the new game will bring a realistic global illumination and realistic details on weapons. Personally the BF1 illumination and environment dinamics was very good. My clan and I have been playing battlefield together for more than 15 years now. Let's make it happen

[pine roost]

I don’t even care if it’s graphics aren’t realistic, just look good

[still vault]

I would not think that graphics and animations are the most important thing for early builds

Wasn't in the CTE at least

[pine roost]

Need white box maps again

I do absolutely love how deadlock is handling it. Giving people heroes that are as simple as can be to set mechanics and interacts before visuals

[still vault]

Deadlock is simple on the surface like Overwatch was simple on the surface. The reason they work for e-sports is due to the fact that they are not simple.

Lots of complexity under the hood.

[hazy viper]

I have recently upgraded my hardware and thus doubled the average FPS in game...
...and I sort of feel like I am doing much worse now. Can't hit a barn.
Makes sense, or am I being just too lame? 😃

[still vault]

Muscle memory takes time to change

[pine roost]

Yeah, and putting mechanics before the graphics of these heroes really does feel like you’re actually having an impact in how they are shaped

[still vault]

expect to get worse when getting new hardware

[rain violet]

Framerate helps with visual clarity but you still need to develop mouse control.

[pseudo mountain]

What do you guys think of the ability to choose teams as you progress in the solo matches

AI teammates that is

[kindred flint]

i watched the series once a couple years ago... and the amount of scenes i was fast forwarding with Michael being an idiot was really high

[lucid tide]

pq q vc escreve assim cara

[stuck galleon]

did they change the ip for middle east servers

i can't block servers

[dawn sentinel]

I need two people to have a full squad if anyone want to join me!

[stuck galleon]

i want someone to join to play in europe servers

[ionic wolf]

Is it just me or is crossplay just shit?

Like I’m playing against pc but those ppl prefire hard af, kill me through smokes with headshots from afar, I’m exploding randomly because of whatever lmao

[stuck galleon]

can you taxi me into Europe servers?

[stone gazelle]

bruh this game is weird bro

Ive spawned in and instanty died like 10 times this game

[wooden ridge]

I hope they include a server browser. Sure, include SBMM for those who want it, but one of the things that made gaming great in earlier years of online gaming (as well as some games still) was finding a good server with good regulars and good admins. Once you find out, you get a good/fun/consistent gaming experience, and you actually get to know people, even if you've never met them. Back in the TFC/Counterstrike days multiple people I knew in person played on a well-run CS server here on the west coast called "Hostage Down." There were lots of people that had never met in person, but through gaming the the servers associated forums, got to know and feel like friends, to the point of eventually getting together for a BBQ/cook-out at a park. It was a blast getting to meet people in person and having that kind of community really made gaming fun. You just never get that kind of community built when limited to SBMM. You're always just playing some other random people, not building relationships or communities. In addition to that, with 2042, for example, instead of just being able to join a server where you're likely find some of your friends already playing, you have to join them via the friends list, which can be fine until you get more than 4 friends that want to play together, and then it becomes a pain to get on the same server and same team. SBMM for people who want it, but I sure hope they include a server browser.

[plain iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255205735567065200/1326680473870532708/caption.gif

[stuck galleon]

This please

[polar crag]

haven't played bf2042 in a while, is there anything new? what weapon will you recommend

[stuck galleon]

yes a lot, just play and let me join you xD

[silver rain]

@stuck galleonwhy not play on your own server?

[stuck galleon]

the problem is i can't join any game

they put me in a server alone

[silver rain]

Is there no option to switch servers?

[stuck galleon]

nope

[silver rain]

in which region do you play

normaly

[polar crag]

ak5c still god?

[stuck galleon]

Middle east

but no one is playing

[chilly jacinth]

That's a dead region

Gotta use a vpn

[wet pier]

how can ı fix directx problem

[arctic grove]

Can i do some challenge or something to get battlefield coins or do i need to buy them for real money?

[chilly jacinth]

Real money

You could get some for free when they had battlepasses going

[fading vapor]

Micro transactions that’s all the video game developers are about. Money and more money because they are fn greedy

I’ll bet mommy and daddy aren’t real impressed with shelling out money for skins or fake guns

[rain violet]

Just the desync in general, happens to us on PC where you empty into a console player's back and 30% of your shots don't reg and they turn around and one frame you.

[rotund ridge]

And its constant. Game is broke.

[vagrant saffron]

Kudo's to the ADD community for consistency and amount of activity on the BF Discord server!

ADD - Thanks for contributing!, keep it up.

[wet pier]

how can ı fix diretcx crash

[vagrant saffron]

Here are tips:

Screenshot every error and report them to the BF and EA support/forum/error-report-forms.
I prefer to share as much data as possible that is not related to Advertising tracking.

Driver update (((or reverse - ìf nothing works and the Directx errors are consistently displayed)))
Update game, Repair if errors consist.

Reinstall EA App, if need be reinstall the game.

Keep in mind, restart system after each steps to make room for àll desired (potential) patches.

[wet pier]

thanks

[orchid tusk]

how often are you getting them?

[vagrant saffron]

((EA and Battlefield Series))) fix methodology.

Personally I allow for one crash before I take action like after update related to Game, EA App, Hardware driver.

And after applying a fix of mentioned sorts.

A crash can be a trigger to a patch after all, I in memory deem the upcoming to be expected patch/update as unlikely so I do not forget to, Restart Game after error / crash - restart EA App & Game, Shutdown EA App then restart system, Update EA App then Game, Repair Game, Reinstall EA APP and if needed Game.

Keep in mind to

[trim nexus]

You can’t have SBMM if people can freely choose which servers to join

It wouldn’t work

[vagrant saffron]

My last Directx error was in the last 48 hours, I am faírly sure it was after a update.

[abstract night]

“Sure, include sbmm for those who want it” let me stop you right there. Nah

I will not buy it if it has sbmm

I only tolerate sbmm in cod cause the gunplay is good and I can go to BF for real gameplay. If BF adopts it as well tho I’ll probably just quit triple A FPS altogether

[stuck galleon]

GUYS I CAN'T FIND ANY MATCHES

[zealous ivy]

If they have a server browser they could just have sbmm if you search for a quick match

I don't see how that would be hard to implement

They'll try to force it in anyway I think

[vagrant saffron]

Why not, is there a way it could work?

[zealous ivy]

Probably keeps engagement high or something there's a reason why every game does it nowadays lol

[vocal tusk]

Skill number that tallies your last 25 games, then helps the auto balancer at start of round to make sure teams are even. 👍

[zealous ivy]

I hate it but the data probably shows it's a good thing to have

[balmy copper]

i feel like SBMM babies people. I would rather be killed 20 times to learn how to improve my tactics

[remote kiln]

they were pretty clear that they didnt want sbmm in 2042, no reason to think theyd want it for the next game either

[zealous ivy]

They hired people who worked on cod your crazy if you think they won't try the same type of shit lol

[remote kiln]

no they hired bryan beede who made warzone

he has nothing to do with matchmaking

[zealous ivy]

I mean pretty much lol

[remote kiln]

besides he was hired literally years ago at this point and they never included it in 2042 anyway

[zealous ivy]

EA has been trying to make battlefield more like cod for a while now

[dense helm]

hi

[next onyx]

A proper team balancer may come though.

My favourite thing to do with my friends on bf5 was swap to the losing side and bring the game back.

[zealous ivy]

Why would they remove the server browser then?

What do you think the end goal of that is

[next onyx]

You ask them. Not us.

[zealous ivy]

I would bet if there is no server browser again they'll have some form of sbmm in the game

[round sentinel]

how does that correlate at all?

^^ a lot of MP games nowadays do this because most of the anticheat is run server-side

[zealous ivy]

Either way almost every multiplayer has some form of sbmm you act like it there's no chance of it being in this game

[brittle wind]

Appearently 2042 was supposed to have SBMM, but they ditched the idea after they lost 90% of their playerbase, at least that's what people on the server told me

[zealous ivy]

All I'm saying is don't be surprised if it's there

[brittle wind]

I ain't playing if it has SBMM that's for sure

[zealous ivy]

Obviously judging by every other game devs must have a really good reason to use it even though almost everyone hates it

[round sentinel]

It's not a binary. SBMM done properly is a good idea. Would you enjoy getting put into games vs ttv sweats and pro players? I doubt it

[rain violet]

I sincerely doubt DICE would implement EOMM after watching Delta Force catch so much flak for it.

[zealous ivy]

I just want a server browser

[chilly jacinth]

There are plenty of games that don't use it too

[brittle wind]

Those players are less than 5% of total playerbase, in reality there is little chance you will ever encounter them

[rain violet]

Team balancer yes, EOMM no. Maybe in like the BR mode they're building but definitely not the standard modes.

[zealous ivy]

That's all I'm asking for but they've been going away from that since bf1 so I doubt it's ever coming back

[chilly jacinth]

Like you know the entire battlefield series

[quartz raven]

Anyone know why im stuck at the sattelite loading screen?

[zealous ivy]

What multiplayer shooter doesn't have sbmm rn?

[round sentinel]

Obviously that's the extreme, but if you're in the bottom 25%, then more than a majority of the players are better than you and you're not going to have a very good time

[chilly jacinth]

Just restart

[quartz raven]

I have multiple times and it still happens

[chilly jacinth]

Did you not read what you replied to?

[zealous ivy]

Sbmm is horrible for anyone that is slightly above average

[still vault]

SBMM is not either bad or good. It all depends on how it's setup and how it works for that particular game.

[brittle wind]

@eager spire

[chilly jacinth]

Talking out of their ass

[vocal tusk]

2042 didnt have SBMM at launch haha

[brittle wind]

I'm better than average player, I don't want to be punished for being better than average player, I had 1.4 KD in CoD, average is like 0.8

[zealous ivy]

I swear it did have some form of sbmm but I can't say for sure

[round sentinel]

a lack of SBMM causes a player decline because the bottom 25% either quits or become sweats to get to the top, pushing other players into the bottom 25% and the cycle restarts but ideally SBMM creates groups where the bottom 25% can be playing against the bottom 25% and they have a fair chance

[still vault]

Reddit is always a source for everything not true 😄

[zealous ivy]

I remember there was someone who tested it out and it was kinda suspect

[orchid tusk]

hows it handle switching classses and playstyles throughout a match. just an average?

[brittle wind]

Existence of SBMM makes 70% quit the game as can be seen in BO6, 3arch would rather see their game die than to turn off SBMM

[vocal tusk]

SBMM just keeps you playing the same match over and over. You eventually reach your average performance level, and the games just become monotonous and boring

[brittle wind]

CoD sales went down since MW19, not went up

[zealous ivy]

Obviously not it was probably 3-4 years ago lol

[west cairn]

Tarkov, old bf

[round sentinel]

how exactly are you punished? you're just not having your kd boosted by deleting all the casuals from the game

[zealous ivy]

Anything else?

[brittle wind]

I have to sweat in every single game

[round sentinel]

you still have all the content and gameplay of the game, just against people of your skill level

[brittle wind]

In order to have fun

[west cairn]

What else do u need

[brittle wind]

SBMM makes every match tedious

[round sentinel]

you have to try! there you go! that's exactly what the bottom 50% would have to do if there's no SBMM

SBMM just makes you have to actually try to

[orchid tusk]

that chinese game just levels shit out right?

[west cairn]

Sbmm exist for games that needs competitive fairness

[round sentinel]

if you don't want to try, go play coop

[zealous ivy]

It's no point bro they haven't played cod I guess. sbmm is so annoying it's crazy

[round sentinel]

or just don't care about stats and play for funzies

[brittle wind]

SBMM is just handout wins for skilless players

Why do you want to have fake wins in a multiplayer game?

[rain violet]

Opposite really, you have no game variety except when you haven't won in awhile and the game gives you a free lobby to stomp, or after enough wins it makes sure every match you play is a loss. Wins don't feel good, losses feel inevitable to your performance, it just feels repetitive and controlled.

[brittle wind]

I don't want my every match to be dictated by an algorithm

[orchid tusk]

cod is alright but xbox app for pc is not

[zealous ivy]

Go 50-10 one game then 20-20 the next 10 lol

[round sentinel]

yes, so they can enjoy the game?

[zealous ivy]

So stupid lol

[brittle wind]

Real life won't give you handout wins

[balmy copper]

so true how you going to learn to adapt

[zealous ivy]

Gotta have a safe space for them lol

[brittle wind]

I have positive WL ratio in 2042

I'm not even good in 2042

[still vault]

It's just leagues without the leagues. People don't complain about sport leagues for some reason, although it also just groups people together depending on skill.

[brittle wind]

My KD is low

[rain violet]

Cry, report for smurfing, call them a sweat, the usuals

[orchid tusk]

those results sound pretty much just like bf1942 tbh

[round sentinel]

obviously, but it is a video game, that people play for fun, if you don't cater to the casuals you don't have a playerbase

[zealous ivy]

I think my KD is around 3-4 probably higher honestly this game is very easy

[rain violet]

That's what ranked ladder is for, you don't need ranked and ranked+ leaderboard

[brittle wind]

Which game sold more, BO3 or BO5?

[balmy copper]

kinda been the point since like 2009 everyone accuses each other for hacking or to touch grass

[next onyx]

Marvel Rivals was recently found to use manipulative match making. Sbmm is used as a term to help label these systems which has muddied the waters a bit.

[abstract night]

There’s no reason SBMM should exist in non ranked game modes. I don’t wanna keep getting put in 200ms ping matches every time I go more than even 1kd

[brittle wind]

How so?

I thought it had no SBMM/EOMM especially in casual play

[still vault]

BF is a hard game to SBMM anyway. A Player can be a beast infantry player, but if that player picks a helicopter for that game and is only low skill with that, the entire SBMM goes out the window.

[zealous ivy]

Basically it's always a win streak then a loss streak then another win streak it's weird AF lol

[round sentinel]

I don't know

[zealous ivy]

Like you win 4 then lose 4 then win 4 again

[abstract night]

It’s win loss win loss and the worst part is the scores are still like 98-100 or 100-99

It’s an insufferable environment

[brittle wind]

That's what happens in CoD too, if you get good KD with meta weapons and decide to switch weapons for camos or something then you will see the change in pace

[brittle wind]

BO3 sold more, BO5 had 10M less sales than MW19 which was comparable to BO3

[still vault]

That's just changing a weapon though.

[zealous ivy]

Apex has the worst form of sbmm I've ever seen lol

[abstract night]

I’ve never even played apex tbh so I believe you

[round sentinel]

I enjoy bo6 though as a medium skill casual, play it regularly because of the sbmm, I don't have to climb the ladder to the top to have fun

[zealous ivy]

And guess who's one of the heads working on this game😭😭

[brittle wind]

Nah, SBMM becomes more appearent, I'm not good with snipers so I was getting killed almost instantly

[rain violet]

Felt, MM in Apex is like 60% of the reason why I quit that game

[zealous ivy]

Basically they intentionally give you terrible teammates when you have good games while putting you in hard lobbies

[round sentinel]

and you're cherrypicking examples, because bo6 actually has sold more than any game in the franchise's history and it has sbmm, so your hypothesis doesn't really seem to hold true

[abstract night]

What works for me to have a 1.4 kd in mw22 and 1.56 kd in mw23 is literally to just ads everywhere. You can still move, you don’t gotta camp, just initiate movement but ads everywhere and you can usually have like 1.5 kd in most matches

[brittle wind]

If SBMM was about player retention we would've seen those numbers go up, not down, we don't know MWII sales but it sold less than Elden Ring in that year, ER sold like 25M or something in it's year, MWII sold less than that, which is 10M less than Cold War

[rain violet]

Uh what? BO6 has sold less than the other titles. They were forced to reveal sales data due to court shit.

[brittle wind]

SBMM makes people quit the game, it's about manipulating ''whales'' to spend more, keep the whales in their protected bracket just so they can spend more on skins and bundles

[next onyx]

No one likes exclusively playing with meta. One big thing about cod and especially gun bench is experimentation. While you can TECHNICALLY do it. It'd guaranteed to end up terribly.

[round sentinel]

welcome to microtransactions. literally every game needs to do this to make money. in what world are you going to convince a for-profit company to not value its customers

[next onyx]

I don't want to swap to the best gun all the time.

[rain violet]

Yup, cosmetics and battle passes only work financially if you are able to retain a sizable playerbase and the worst players just happen to be the largest portion.

[balmy copper]

if they just slap the Bf4 or Bf3 ui and concept ill be happy im tired or sliding around unless it's running towards a tank

[round sentinel]

bo6 ad: guns are balanced and I have largely been able to use whatever and have a decent kd

[still vault]

SBMM is a double edged sword for game developers. It solves a lot of problems, but at the same time it also causes a lot of problems. You basically just pick who, and not if, you will pisse off.

[zealous ivy]

Everyone just goes on youtube and finds the most meta loadouts in 2 minutes

I can probably download bo6 again search up the most meta guns and everyone in my first lobby will be using them lol

[round sentinel]

people just find something to complain about nowadays, either you tick off the casuals with a lack of sbmm, or you tick off the youtubers with sbmm(they want to farm free clips on casuals for their epic youtube channel) imo the casuals are more important than the youtubers even though the youtubers are largely driving sales

[brittle wind]

Krig is the only AR with 4 shot kill range up to like 40-50 meters

Others are 5 shot kill

[zealous ivy]

It's not even about farming people for me it's the fact I get punished for being a good player

[round sentinel]

and largely its just youtubers rage baiting for clicks too, "SBMM ruins bo6" gets more views than "I enjoy bo6 and its a good game for casuals"

[rain violet]

Here's a question: if casuals don't care about the game itself but only care if they don't get shit kicked, are they really a customer? I'd personally rather go after a target audience for my product than appeal to the exact opposite and just hope they stay.

[round sentinel]

your punishment is a challenge in a competitive environment? imagine if nba players started crying because they weren't playing against high school teams anymore

[jovial mist]

a customer is a customer, end of the line

[next onyx]

I don't fight meta builds here and there but you know. Lemme fight the one dude who's cracked with pistols that while aren't meta. They're encouraged to go sicko mode as they don't have to try hard against the same meta builds.

[round sentinel]

I don't use the krig and I do fine, yes a gun will always be slightly better but its not like its a hard meta

[brittle wind]

I didn't sign up for competitive environment when I play a casual game though, shit isn't CS or Siege or Valorant

[still vault]

If you value playing against people as good at yourself it's actually punishing instead of rewarding. But it can feel that way too ofc.

[brittle wind]

CoD is 100 times more tiring due to how fast everything is

[next onyx]

Did my autocorrect just break that sentence?

[round sentinel]

then be fine with losing every once in a while, take a loss with grace that's part of the casual experience

[balmy copper]

True i spent 200 dollars on games i dont even play they been sitting on the shelf collecting dust i just support the devs even if its shit

[rain violet]

If a customer isn't after the product they're fickle and will leave for a number of reasons. They just have sheer volume of numbers. You make a core audience happy and you get repeat customers and ensured retention.

[round sentinel]

you don't have to tryhard with SBMM, just play how you do and the game should give you a fair shot

[brittle wind]

Worst part is that you can manipulate SBMM crazy with quitting matches, if I quit like 10 matches I will be sent to protected bracket I shouldn't be in

How is SBMM good now?

[round sentinel]

that's just a solvable implementation issue though

[zealous ivy]

It's the fact that the matchmaking purposely puts me in the most sweatiest games just because I had 1-2 decent games. When I want to play competitively I play ranked that's why it's there

[brittle wind]

People use VPNing and twoboxing in BO6 still, I think twoboxing is patched but VPN still works

[zealous ivy]

What's the point of having ranked when literally normal matches play the same way

[brittle wind]

I don't think they can patch quitting though

[jovial mist]

What if, it's not the matchmaking that became sweatiest, but just the people ? That's what happens when you put ranked modes, elo and battle royale in every game

[round sentinel]

and these are all settings that the devs can tune, I do prefer the type of SBMM that uses a more fast-adjusting downwards curve and slower on the upwards so that this doesn't happen

[next onyx]

I'll admit I'm sweaty but I don't like it when I'm forced to play 100% all the time. Shit leads to burn out.

[zealous ivy]

I use to make fun of my friend for two boxing on bo4 lmao

[round sentinel]

literally just when the server calculates the sbmm ratings for the game you just if the player quit the game, don't touch their rating? and cod already has an afk system that detects most macros

[rain violet]

Exactly, I like having matches where I can try different builds or just go for clip farm if the enemies aren't putting up a fight to challenge myself in some way. I hate feeling like a win is just handed to me because I put up with two hours of abuse.

[zealous ivy]

Back in mw2019 and mw2 I would literally only play like 2-3 games because after the first one it was always super sweaty

[brittle wind]

It's not the case, I played 2042 and BO6 for similar amounts of time, I can play 2042 for hours to no ends, I couldn't play more than 3 matches of BO6 before I deleted it, my first match was going to be easiest in every day anyways

[zealous ivy]

I would just play something else atp

[round sentinel]

so you want to feel like a win is handed to you because you're playing against players substantially worse than you?

[brittle wind]

This

[brittle wind]

What if bad players learned the game if they wanted to win?

[jovial mist]

BF has no ranked, no displayed Elo and even the levels don't matter at all, so my point still stands

[next onyx]

Most fun on black ops 2 when i could be a pistol main and or push for weird guns.

[zealous ivy]

That's another thing I forgot about trying to rank up you weapons and shit and you accidentally had a good game with a shit weapon now you are gonna get punished because you are using something off meta lol

[rain violet]

You get that anyway with EOMM because the system doesn't want to lose engagement and gives you a free win against even worse lobbies. It's literally doing the opposite of what you're even asking for lol

[brittle wind]

CoD has SBMM in casual too

I never played ranked

[jovial mist]

yes and ?

[round sentinel]

then the current "meh" players become the "bad" players and the cycle starts over

[jovial mist]

regardless of how the matchmaking works in CoD, people will always sweat in those games nowadays

[round sentinel]

this is the aforementioned forced "sweaty" experience you want to avoid?

[brittle wind]

I'm fine with naturally sweaty matches

I'm not when it's an algorithm deciding that

[valid wolf]

Why has this game not got a campaign

[zealous ivy]

Did you see how the game released?

[jovial mist]

because it got an amazing tarkov like mode 👀

[round sentinel]

precisely, because some youtuber told you "sbmm bad always and forever" and you can't get past the fact that algorithms decide our lives now. See credit scores

[zealous ivy]

Be glad there wasn't a campaign lmao

[rain violet]

Also just because people are skilled doesn't mean they try to actively win either. If I'm playing casual lobbies and modes I literally couldn't care less about if I win the TDM lobby. I just want variety of matches instead of "play five stomp lobbies and get one easy shitter lobby free!"

[balmy copper]

Microtransactions and Hazard zone

[valid wolf]

Yes in shambles

[valid wolf]

In English plz 🙏

[jovial mist]

Microtransactions and Hazard zone

[valid wolf]

What’s that

[zealous ivy]

Chasing trends and failing hard at it

[brittle wind]

I never knew SBMM was that bad till I played BO6 lol, I was an avid defender of it, BO6 was my first ''nuCoD'' game, not technically first but practically first

[jovial mist]

Hazard zone = tarkov mode

[balmy copper]

^

[zealous ivy]

Did you play mw2019?

[valid wolf]

That’s a type of gun

Wdym

[brittle wind]

Warzone a little bit, maybe like 2-3 matches of mp

[jovial mist]

Escape From Tarkov ?

[round sentinel]

if you don't want to play against players of your skill level, then you have 2 options: don't buy the game or play coop

[zealous ivy]

That was the first game that I realized how bad sbmm was

Then it got worse each game

[brittle wind]

How about locking SBMM to ranked?

[balmy copper]

Find hard drives and then escape in a helicopter and defend it while waiting to leave

[round sentinel]

sure but then the top 50% wouldn't queue ranked and would just queue casual to farm clips

[brittle wind]

There is no top 50% in CoD

There is top 20%

Most players are average at 40%

Then they become worse

[zealous ivy]

What's your KD in cod usually?

[brittle wind]

1.4

Is my average lifetime in BO6

[round sentinel]

math kinda says otherwise... there is always a top 50% in a distribution like what are you on about?

[next onyx]

Cods match making can be more accurately described as EOMM.

[zealous ivy]

You don't know how painful it really is yet lol

[balmy copper]

mine .4 in cod and in bf 2.1

[next onyx]

I hit a 2kd on mw3 and bo6 and hated my life.

[rain violet]

So what should casual players do if they don't want to play against players of their skill? I mean they surely want a win too right?

[next onyx]

Actually kills all drive.

[spare crest]

God this game is hard literally just started playing it today and I’m ass lmao

[zealous ivy]

I had a 2.8 and literally it was probably the least amount of fun I had lol

[brittle wind]

No, they gave us data on it, most players are 0.85 KD, 40% of them, above 1.1 KD makes you top 20%

[round sentinel]

you get wins playing against people of your skill level? literally the point of sbmm is that it creates a 0.5WL ratio, assuming 0 variance

[rain violet]

Yeah, most matchmaking algorithms in games don't fall under SBMM or ELO it's just engagement oriented.

[round sentinel]

yes 40% of them fit into a bracket, but there is always 50% of players who have a higher kd than the other 50%?

[zealous ivy]

Legit when you get put into those sweaty games and everyone in the game is barely at 1kd

[rain violet]

Except EOMM wins aren't against skilled players, they're handed out wins in easier lobbies to keep you from leaving.

[zealous ivy]

So unfun for everyone involved

[brittle wind]

You don't understand, it's a steep skill gap, 60-70% of the players are either average or bad

At least in CoD

Above 1 KD makes you top 30%

[round sentinel]

never said I was for eomm, but sbmm does serve the same purpose by giving you a chance to win

imo the "chance" to win keeps you in the game longer, like gambling

[rain violet]

EOMM is used in the titles you're talking about

[zealous ivy]

It's actually insane the difference between a 0.5 and a 1.0 KD player in cod is

[next onyx]

Don't think you'll see people complaining about SBMM in a ranked mode because that's literally what you're signing up for.

[brittle wind]

It used to be more varied according to people who were there back then, like you could see 4KD or 2KD people easily, now if you see them 99% chance they are cheaters

[rain violet]

Rotational aim assist definitely helps with that too lol

[next onyx]

Sbmm is a catch all term for cods matchmaking so it's easier to understand.

Like why don't people think this.

[round sentinel]

yes, but if I have a set of [0.8, 0.85, 0.86, 0.87, 1.7, 2], then the "top 50%" would be 0.87, 1.7, 2. Of course you wouldn't want to put 0.87 with the other 2, but if you have a at scale matchmaking system, then there are more than enough 1.7s and 2s to go around and make matches with

[zealous ivy]

Fr like in overwatch rivals and siege I literally only play ranked because those are competitive games

[balmy copper]

but sometime queues are like 5 mins

[rain violet]

It's hilarious because Apex's MM was so egregious I'd get easier lobbies going from bronze to diamond than my unranked

[zealous ivy]

Overwatch yea but not rivals and siege

[zealous ivy]

Unranked was literally Harder than ranked for me too lol it was wild

I had a 5.3 KD in apex and couldn't play unranked

[rain violet]

Unranked was three stack Preds and your teammates would be level 20s who couldn't find their feet

[zealous ivy]

I'm actually getting pissed off now that you are reminding me lol

Legit forced to play ranked because it was less sweaty lol

[balmy copper]

i still get all 20s and below in my squad every match i play in 2042

[round sentinel]

yeah I literally quit apex because there was no sbmm, every game was literally just getting stomped, barely could get my feet on the ground

I didn't even have a chance to get into the ranked mode before I gave up

[brittle wind]

Apex has same SBMM as CoD

[zealous ivy]

That's so cap apex has very heavy sbmm

[brittle wind]

Maybe not exactly same but very heavy

[zealous ivy]

Nah it's way worse than cod lol

[round sentinel]

granted this was back in like 2020ish, don't know how it is now

[brittle wind]

What about Rivals? I see people claiming quick match has no SBMM but not sure

[halcyon epoch]

Hello

[zealous ivy]

You are forced into lower level squads if you are a good player in apex

[balmy copper]

its bad there still people scripting

[brittle wind]

I don't play hero shooters much so I dunno, I played Siege and 2042(if you can call it a hero shooter)

[zealous ivy]

I actually don't know I never played quick play once I unlocked ranked lol

[brittle wind]

I've seen people finding matches in a second so I assume it has no SBMM, can you try it when you find the chance?

[round sentinel]

no cap, lifetime 4 kills with around 20hrs I believe

looked my xbox account up on trn

[zealous ivy]

Ranked is the same queue times less then 5 seconds most of the time

[zealous ivy]

That's wild ngl lol

It's definitely a hard game to get into at first tho

[brittle wind]

Well you can still validate that with the game feel

[zealous ivy]

I'm in platinum rn and most of the games are competitive I never get any squash matches at all

The sbmm in that game is actually good at least from what I played

[round sentinel]

but my point is that's basically the casual experience without sbmm, even if its looser at around a 2-2.5 rank tolerance, at least it gives me a chance, because I can tell you for sure I didn't feel like I had a chance with apex, and that's why I uninstalled. Wasn't even trying to play casual or anything, actually trying and just getting stomped

[zealous ivy]

But it's different for hero shooters like that

[brittle wind]

I wanna know about quick match though, quick match for you should be significantly easier

If it has no SBMM at least

[zealous ivy]

I think it would be a little harder to do strict sbmm in that game since it doesn't have role queue

[round sentinel]

at least from google all modes have sbmm, but quick play is looser apparently

[zealous ivy]

Yea I assume it's pretty loose

[round sentinel]

from experience I can tell you the first 5 ish games of rivals with a new acc are against bots(generated names, very obvious), but after that it does have a solid curve and I did enjoy marvel rivals, don't play too much anymore since friends stopped

not too big a fan of the bots, because it creates a really steep curve after the introduction of real players, but I think a clear tutorial game is a good idea

bf2042 kinda has a variation of this where you're put in a vs ai game when the game is still installing but in its "ready to play" mode

[zealous ivy]

Yea I thought they did a decent job of ramping up your opponents while you are learning the game

[round sentinel]

but yes the opponent ramp up is good

[zealous ivy]

But I usually hate when they do this bot matches when you first start apex does the same thing now

[brittle wind]

Google tells me nothing though

No one knows if it has SBMM or not

In casual modes

[zealous ivy]

Like I made a new account for Apex and I dropped 30 kills in the first game lol

[ebon citrus]

j'aimerai bien testé le futur bf ,comment faire ?juste attendre?

[next onyx]

English!

[round sentinel]

I'm fine with one as a clear tutorial, but after that I think it just creates unrealistic player expectations that hurt them once actual players are introduced and just obliterating AI for like 5 games in a row dropping 40 kinda devalues the achievements they will try to get later

[zealous ivy]

What language is that anyway French? Lol

[round sentinel]

I would still use bots for the first game, but only fill the lobby to a half or third of the normal so that they can only drop 8-12 and not something ridiculous like 30

[zealous ivy]

In apex it used to be up until you got level 4 or something but the main problem is the matchmaking kicks in straight away so you are gonna have a 10+kd when you first start

[zealous ivy]

Ping used to do that

Have like 20 bots mixed in with real players

[ebon citrus]

I would like to test the future bf, how to do it? Just wait?

[round sentinel]

you have to get an invite, and considering there are a lot of applicants and they said in the video that they were inviting "a few thousand people", your chances are small, so cross your fingers but be prepared for the likely occassion that you won't have the opportunity

[ebon citrus]

ok

[round sentinel]

they want to do a closed beta test, meaning that they don't want their not-production-ready build to be the face of battlefield and kill the game before it starts. This also means that anybody participating in the tests is probably going to be under strict NDA, I think its just important to keep in mind that any leaks at this point aren't going to be accurate for release, the point of them doing this earlier in the cycle is that they have time to iterate before launch.

[uncut bay]

thousands at first, increasing to tens of thousands in the weeks after

still a slim chance

[round sentinel]

yeah at least its not FCFS so I have some hope

[balmy copper]

to be honest i would let everyone in the more feedback the better plus it would let them test server stability

[runic rapids]

huge hope here too and its always good to iterate before lunch

[round sentinel]

but the problem with that is then you can't control the leaks, and people will see the current state of the game as the release state of the game and trash on it

[zealous ivy]

They are gonna get plenty of feedback the problem is will they actually listen to it this time

[zealous ivy]

It's gonna get leaked hard regardless haha

[runic rapids]

yes

[balmy copper]

true But you gotta slap a giant ass BETA watermark in the middle of the screen

[runic rapids]

lol

[round sentinel]

maybe, but at least with a few thousand people dice can hire that many hitmen dice can select people who have some more moral integrity

[runic rapids]

lmao

[zealous ivy]

Yea I played a couple of early FIFA betas and they always slap a big ass moving beta watermark lol

[uncut bay]

it's not an open beta, they have to control it at such an early stage

[round sentinel]

it never matters, the youtubers will take anything they can get their hands on and use it for clickbait, which is usually negative about the game

[runic rapids]

they have BO6 for that

[zealous ivy]

I just hope they don't do anything stupid with this game

[runic rapids]

wink

[zealous ivy]

Like I have a bad feeling they'll do something weird again like what they did with the specialist in 2042

[runic rapids]

if they have some operator giggling and joshin around im going to barf

[round sentinel]

bo6 aint even that bad, I genuinely play a lot(720hrs on COD launcher), yes the skins direction I am not a fan of but the game still has a fun core

[balmy copper]

They just need the dumbass bf3 lines

[round sentinel]

its a good casual experience imo

[zealous ivy]

I just want character customization like bfv

[zealous ivy]

I'm so burnt out on cod I tapped out after like 20 hours lol

[runic rapids]

agreed thats why wink Ohm

[cursive scarab]

I just want destruction and the real weapons of BF3.

Just that

[zealous ivy]

I just want bf3 remastered lol

[cursive scarab]

yes

[runic rapids]

lol

[cursive scarab]

Siene Crossing!

Operation FireStorm

Back to Karkand (again)

[zealous ivy]

Ziba tower 😍😍

[cursive scarab]

Metro!

[runic rapids]

i want a can o copenhagen a rifle and a slew of heads

[round sentinel]

campaign was very cool this year though, glad they decided to give it the love it deserves

[cursive scarab]

Tehran Highway

Grand Bazaar

[zealous ivy]

Death valley bandar desert armored shield literally all I want in this game lol

[zealous ivy]

I never finished it lol I just played zombies mostly then deleted

Cod just isn't fun anymore for me

[runic rapids]

you dont like sweat? you got a mma pic

[round sentinel]

its worth it, they gave it a lot more gameplay depth, story is the usual but the setpieces are great this time around too. my only complaint is that the game makes you sit through way too much side dialogue at the base every time before selecting the next mission

how far did you get?

[runic rapids]

i quit at scary crash dummies

[zealous ivy]

I was done after that creepy ass mission with the mannequins lol

[zealous ivy]

Lmao

[round sentinel]

yeah that mission is my least favorite

[zealous ivy]

That mission was actually pretty good but I just didn't care for the story enough

Like the last good cod campaign that I really liked was infinite warfare

[round sentinel]

the game kinda takes the cliché black ops identity questioning story route after that, but there is a bit of a different spin on it

[runic rapids]

gotta go boss is comin

[zealous ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/run-gif-12578901436723796885

[round sentinel]

that's one of the only ones I haven't played yet. might buy on sale

[zealous ivy]

It's really good

WW2 was pretty good too if you never played it

[round sentinel]

haven't played that one either

[zealous ivy]

WW2 was depressing lol

I loved it tho

Nothing will top waw and bo1 tho

[round sentinel]

I've done waw(in progress), MWR, Mw2(2009), Mw3(2011), bo1, bo2, iw, mw19, mw22, mw23, bo6

[zealous ivy]

Waw is so good

Love that game and story

[round sentinel]

meh I'm not enjoying it that much(maybe because I'm playing on vet for the trophies)

[zealous ivy]

Getting grenade spammed lol

[round sentinel]

I'm about halfway through I think

[zealous ivy]

It's rough on veteran

But I love the story and how brutal it gets towards the end

[round sentinel]

someone gotta give us console players hacks for campaign 😭

[zealous ivy]

Lol gotta get a jtagged 360 for that lmao

You gotta play Advanced warfare campaign too

It was decent

Ghost was good too

[round sentinel]

yeah I'm playing on xbsx, would be interesting if I could run it in devmode, that's the other thing I'm thinking of buying since I have a gamedev project going and am considering UWP support, but the 20$ fee is a bit annoying

[cursive scarab]

hey hahahah i found a old video of me playing BF3

https://vimeo.com/34389440

13 years

[zealous ivy]

I was thinking of buying the dev mode thing and setting up a emulator

It's probably worth the $20 honestly

[round sentinel]

probably, I'll get it when I actually have the time to set it up properly with CICD and all, I don't think you can pay me to touch another github actions file for a little while now

but at the same time I love them and they save me eons of time building and deploying to the testing server

[zealous ivy]

Yeah I'll probably get around to doing it pretty soon I think I want to get a og Xbox and GameCube emulator running

[round sentinel]

the xbsx can actually natively emulate og xbox games, provided they don't use any funky hardware like the kinect

[zealous ivy]

Yea I want to get burnout 3 midnight club and Def jam working. I managed to get them working on PC but would rather have them on my Xbox

I wish those were just straight up backwards compatible tho

That would be easier lmao

Damn rockstar said GTA 6 is still coming out in the fall

Looks like bf6 is coming in 2026 lol

[round sentinel]

I'd advocate for bringing the kinect back now though. Technology has advanced a lot and motion tracking would work a lot better now with AI, and as multiplayer games have evolved to make a microphone almost a necessity, it would be a really good spot to put an integrated one in

[zealous ivy]

You ever played steel battalion?

[round sentinel]

haven't heard the name so no

[river silo]

I loved that mission but I also will never play it again, I did it on veteran at 2 AM and it was terrifying

[zealous ivy]

Look up steel battalion on Kinect on youtube that game would be so good if it had modern technology

It's a og franchise from back in the day but the Kinect killed it with the terrible controls

[zealous ivy]

Yea it freaked me out the sound design was amazing

[river silo]

fr, I would play BO6 so much more but I'm just burnt out on gaming in general, I might play siege for a couple days since they have a very unique special event rn but besides that, I'm gonna wait till GTA6 and BF6 release before I play games actively again

also ik ya'll don't want to pre-order BF6, but would you pre-order GTA6?

out of curiosity

[zealous ivy]

I'm pre ordering both💀💀

[river silo]

same 😂

[zealous ivy]

It's a good year for games

Mafia coming out soon too

[round sentinel]

probably was the intent XD

[zealous ivy]

Killing floor 3 also

[river silo]

mhm, even if BF6 ends up being a mess, I'll enjoy it once they fix it

[zealous ivy]

I enjoyed every bf aside from bf1 even if bf6 is a mess I'll still put hundreds of hours in lol

[river silo]

the one thing that I disliked about it was how long it lasted, the prop hunt thing took me absolutely ages (it was the only mission I couldn't figure out how to do so I had to look up a YT tutorial for it)

[round sentinel]

yeah the length kinda sucks too

[river silo]

I'm relatively new to the BF scene, I played a tiny bit of BF4 and I saw my older brothers play BF1, but the only BF I played actively was 2042 (and I did enjoy it quite a lot actually, at least until they stopped adding interesting modes)

I would have loved portal if people actually played it lol, I can't find anyone in it

[zealous ivy]

Ngl I feel bad for you having to get in at 2042

[river silo]

I bought it a few years after release when it was on sale for 8 pounds

[zealous ivy]

You missed out on bad company and bf3😭😭

[river silo]

yeah haha I know how good BF3, BF4 and BF1 were, I hope this will be similar to BF4 but with even better destruction, a bit of innovation to the gameplay (but not too much) and a graphical remaster

[zealous ivy]

Assuming they play it extremely safe that's what this game will be

[river silo]

I have no idea what bad company and hardline are, I saw some clips of them before but I can't make sense of it

like I think hard line is about policemen? but they have RPGs and are fighting mass ground-wars for some reason?

[zealous ivy]

Hardline was weird but the game modes were the most unique in gaming honestly lol

[river silo]

mhm?

[zealous ivy]

Like hotwire is probably my favorite game mode in bf history

Basically conquest but the objectives are the cars and the only way to get points is by driving around the map

[river silo]

ooooooooooo

that's actually really cool

[zealous ivy]

The car chases were so fun lol

[river silo]

they should do smth like that in BF6 but with jet fighters or smth more military-type

[zealous ivy]

It's just hard to do with when the game is straight up military

Hardline barely had any tanks or major anti armor stuff so it worked

Like you could only find RPGs around the map and they only had 1 shot iirc

Idk how they could bring it back unless they made a hardline 2 or something lol

[river silo]

watching a vid about hotwire now

I wanna see what this actually looks like haha

[zealous ivy]

It was so fun look at the heist mode too that was my favorite also

[brittle wind]

Dirt bikes like BF3 endgame?

[zealous ivy]

Don't think it would work too easy to shoot people off

[brittle wind]

Armored tuk tuk?

But engineer exists so I dunno how it can work best bet is like something with jets

[zealous ivy]

Too much explosive spam😭😭 I just think it worked perfectly with hardline because of the setting and the equipment the game had

[zealous ivy]

Maybe boats like a naval supremacy type mode lol

Damn bro making miss hardline lol might have to download it again and see if I can find a server 🤣🤣

[obsidian arch]

why did they put the console button as `?

[zealous ivy]

The money system was so cool too I loved having to buy you guns and equipment when you unlocked them

[river silo]

yeah haha hardline looks really weird but also really unique at the same time

hotwire looks so cool but also looks tedious if you don't get a car

but mostly looks cool

I defo think BF6 could have hotwire, it's more than possible for them to just add in the mechanics of it but then just style it in a military way and remove/limit certain elements that are present in other modes

probably not with jets though, that's a bit too odd

[zealous ivy]

Look at the heist mode too that was really fun. But yea hardline was definitely weird at the time fun but weird

[patent pivot]

Hardline is still better than 2042

[prime tulip]

Been a casual COD player for the past 15 years and never played any Battlefield ever. Just got 2042 a few weeks ago and its great!! Never going back to COD fr and definitely gonna try out some games similar to BF now

[patent pivot]

Admit it

[copper spruce]

should definitely try the older games if you like 2042 XD

[shadow bison]

Try BF 3 and 4 and the new one if you're into modern stuff and try 1 and 5 for ww1 and ww2

Nice to hear that you like Battlefield

[copper spruce]

BF3 servers still active on PC?

[shadow bison]

Not sure

4 is 100%

[copper spruce]

yea I mean I play 4 every day

would be interested taking 3 for a spin though if there are actual servers

[shadow bison]

I mean I only got into Battlefield at 1 and 5...
If the new one is on par or better than 3 and 4, I l'm just waiting for that instead of bothering with the old games now...

At this point...

[copper spruce]

respect

I would encourage playing Battlefield 4 either way it still holds up extremely well to this day and I have a blast playing it over bf 1 & 5 (not that those are bad games or inferior)

[obsidian arch]

BF4 is dead. Haven't looked at 3 yet

[copper spruce]

BF4 is not dead 🤣

at least not on PC

[shadow bison]

Ye I get that.
For me I'm actually not sure whether I like the modern or the classic setting more...
Modern combat is more dynamic of course, but trench warfare in ww1 or mobile ww2 combat is also very interesting...

I guess I like both

[patent pivot]

More like it's dead due to boring ass servers

[copper spruce]

I love both settings as well.

[copper spruce]

I don't know what this even means

[junior galleon]

it means the servers have garbage map rotation

[patent pivot]

Always conquest, same map rotation

Never anything different

[junior galleon]

to be fair bf4 rush is not worth a shit

[prime tulip]

Only got PS5 rn though, so I guess 2042 is my only option? I've heard hell let loose is good

[patent pivot]

Idc bruh

I'll play it with bots only

And I'll still enjoy it

[fast kindle]

Idk how but I’m playing 42 on my old Xbox one 😆

[copper spruce]

HLL is good as well but it's a lot slower than Battlefield but definitely give it a shot

[junior galleon]

ea give us a good rush mode and maps for bf6 and my life is yours

[fast kindle]

Arma looks really good. I’ve seen it on reels.

[copper spruce]

I need Frontlines game mode that shit was amazing

[patent pivot]

All of those past BF titles

Could've been worth my enjoyment time if they had bots

[copper spruce]

Arma is even slower than HLL and I've had annoying mod/server issues with it but don't get me wrong it's also fun as fuck

and the queues can be ridiculous

[prime tulip]

Also, even though I've only been playing it for 3 weeks so far I still top the leaderboards everytime. Really does feel like most people in the lobbies are terrible, and I'm not talking about the bots you'll have sometimes

[fast kindle]

I don’t think my Xbox Could handle the game

It crashes when I fly a jet in 42 😂

[copper spruce]

maybe you just built different idk

[fast kindle]

Just wanted to fly a a10

[copper spruce]

try the older games and your experience may differ 🤣

[copper spruce]

Honestly those games are way more mil sim and if you are limited on playing time it's almost not even worth your valuable time just for the queues alone

[prime tulip]

Past 2/3 days I've been grinding close quarters conquest and it's like a killing fest on this mode it's a bit like cod ngl

[copper spruce]

to be fair I haven't played 2042 in a long time

I liked the gunplay but the destruction was such a let down compared to the older games

[prime tulip]

Yhh even as a new player, really thought there'd be more destruction.

[copper spruce]

gotta play the older titles man you will definitely notice the difference

[prime tulip]

You should be able to basically level everything? Just like real life

I definitely have to check them out now

[copper spruce]

It depends because leveling everything drastically changes the way you play a map so I think the game devs keep that in mind

[prime tulip]

Yhh true

[vital quail]

Only 1 building on siege of Shanghai falls and it's a scripted levolution event

[copper spruce]

"building" is a broad term it's literally a skyscraper and completely changes an entire third of the map after it falls

and for someone who has never seen that happen before it's quite a spectacle even 11 years later

[severe scaffold]

go guys get to the que for 128

[vital quail]

Dawnbreaker has like 10 "skyscrapers" and none of them fall either

Every bf has buildings that are always static and take no destruction

[copper spruce]

yes but to deny that the older battlefield games had less destruction than 2042 is just wrong

[vital quail]

I'm not saying they have less but thinking that you can level everything in sight is wrong

[copper spruce]

right

you're not wrong I just think the presentation of the older games destruction is way better than 2042's

[vital quail]

They definitely have more but most structures are just copy and paste empty buildings that are on each map which I'm not personally a fan of

[copper spruce]

understandable

[vital quail]

Like haven in 2042 is like the same building everywhere

And same with arica harbor which is from bc2

Which they might even be the same building honestly, I haven't played either map in a while

[copper spruce]

I think my original point was also that you can't level EVERYTHING in sight in the games because it drastically changes map design

[obsidian arch]

having around 3-4k players is not dead?

[copper spruce]

not for an 11 year old that has multiple 64 man servers filled to the brim with queue's

If the game was struggling to fill up 1 maybe 2 servers then yea I would say it's dead but if you can find multiple servers to play on it's not dead by any stretch 🤣

unless you are referring to console or in a completely different region, than I can't exactly speak on that, but in NA on PC the game server's are not dead.

[runic rapids]

Lol

[frozen loom]

Having the east end as the base for the Reclaimed map seems better.

There are so many areas to put spawn beacons on the west end at higher elevations.

By using Rao, I kept pushing the enemies back to their spawn point.

[limpid pond]

Sup nerds

[frozen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-anime-flip-over-hit-strike-gif-16346949

[limpid pond]

Bro got punched out his clothes

Massive w

[frozen loom]

That's me Rao-ing against enemy aircrafts.

The clothes are the turrets on them.

[limpid pond]

Now if only Rao disabled the flares too

[sterile canyon]

[frozen loom]

Still makes enemy aircrafts panic and set off their flares pre-emptively.

[sterile canyon]

Sup

[frozen loom]

Saves me from SOFLAMing early.

[limpid pond]

I need flares gone

To op

Dice nerf flares pls they're super op

[frozen loom]

True

[limpid pond]

All of community wants them gone even pilots

Trust me

[runic rapids]

[limpid pond]

Dice I'll pre-order new bf if you remove flares

[sterile canyon]

Dice I'll pre-order new bf if add bad company easter eggs or weapons

[frozen loom]

Flares are indeed the worst part of vehicles.

[tranquil turtle]

bring back active protection

[brittle wind]

Dice I'll pre-order new bf if you remake metro for the 4th time and add an overpowered 16m/s controllable slide

[frozen loom]

Because I use Rao, enemy aircrafts can either keep their flares or put up with me hacking them.

[limpid pond]

Slide is pre-ordering bf already because of p90 t1 skin

[main vale]

Rate the new pfp

[limpid pond]

L Pfp

-10/10

L+Bozo

[naive ember]

10

[rough spire]

Why cant there be more 1942 maps?

[frozen loom]

Don't mess with my DXR-1.

[restive dragon]

I need more 2042 maps i liked the idea of maps being manipulated by nature even tho there wasnt alot in 2042 but tornados and a map that obviously has been thru a landslide that was fun but they shuld include more natural elements changing up the map

[hardy bronze]

earthquakes would be sick tbh

like, a major mark of the map is just ripped in half after 15 mintues in a game or smth

[patent pivot]

Epicenter be like

[hardy bronze]

real

[main shard]

There’s not many other maps from 1942 that were super popular

And most of the modern playerbase hasn’t played 1942 so it wouldn’t really resonate with the most of us

[frozen loom]

Just give me Paracel Storm map.

https://tenor.com/view/henya-vshojo-thumbs-up-smile-gif-9722815432965545994

[main shard]

Definitely

I don’t personally know anyone who has

[untold kelp]

i played it back in the day, it was really fun

[urban plinth]

me too! Good ol' days of LAN parties in the garage

[main shard]

I recently found out when reading about 1942 that it had a class system but no squads

And had more than 4 classes

[tired hinge]

To be fair, I did play it, but not until MANY years later. BF3 was my first because I simply didn't play fps games until I was about 20yo.

[main shard]

My first was bf4 and I didn’t know what I was getting into. Thought it was like call of duty

First conquest match felt like dropping acid

Loved it ever since

[tired hinge]

BF4 was kind of my intro to group play. I had many 100 hours in it and doing really bad, super lost at the scale of conquest. I made a post on the forums and found some dude who wanted to start a platoon. We ended up building a group of over 200 people and had thousands of hours in BF4 before "the end". Been friends with some of those guys for more than a decade now. Actually just played some 2042 with 2 fulls squads of them last night.

[main shard]

Bf4 basically taught me that large scale fps games exist. It wasn’t until bf1 that the series resonated with me on an emotional level

I remember the day I got it and some of my first ever match

[kindred flint]

well first game of the day started off well.. heli doing nothing on stranded except getting shot down by a nightbird... 3 vehicles camping the hill by D on stranded, and the enemy takes the rest of the map right away not sitting in that lobby

oof redacted definitely a mistake too

nah not the day to play...it would probably give me another blue screen anyways

[frozen loom]

Did you try Rao-ing it up again?

[kindred flint]

no i was actually going falck to work on ribbons

third match was the start of an exposure match...where i watched our heli hovering across the fucking map again

so a couple mins in we only had A/B/C.. and the enemy had the entire rest of the map and people were already camping soo i said fuck that match too

[frozen loom]

I tried for a long time to take helis down, but I got fed up, so now I'm just annoying them all game.

[kindred flint]

it looked like the enemy had a nightbird sweat too

so even more reason for me to leave that one

[frozen loom]

My new favorite map is probably that Al map with the desert.

And then Battle of the Erection.

https://tenor.com/view/misaka-mikoto-index-railgun-shoot-gif-22274805

That's me with enemy aircrafts.

[runic rapids]

i love dessert

[tropic cliff]

What's this new helicopter drone I'm seeing

[vital quail]

On arica harbor?

[tropic cliff]

yes

and that's the only map you can use it on?

Because that's some bull

[kindred flint]

its from bc2

[vital quail]

Valparaiso also has it but only on like breakthrough or something

Or rush

[south swift]

hi all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQS4giRefnI&t=15s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2j69DOh60A

[kindred flint]

is this self promotion?

[south swift]

No. Just the best parts. )

[obsidian arch]

what is it with snipers camping in this game? half the enemy team were camping

if thats how they like to play that's just pathetic

[kindred flint]

pretty bad isnt it.. camping no where near an objective

[young wharf]

It makes any somewhat out in the open tactic useless because of how many of them there are

I played a game where I tried to MG, but half a dozen snipers tried to constantly kill me. They lost the game, but made it very unfun to play.

[merry heart]

man so many cheaters on tonight

1-shot body shot with a NVK pistol from 700m?

yup

[kindred flint]

skill issue on your part tbh

[vital quail]

Feel like we need some proof of something that crazy

[merry heart]

issue skill

[merry heart]

[rocky gust]

imagine sweating in a 4man squad as 4 falcks with pp29s and getting squad wiped 5 times

[vital quail]

I mean... like 99% of cheats that people post about is aimbotting

[rocky gust]

uninstall the game wannabe sweats

[rain violet]

Sounds like your average TDM stack, just hide in corners and win a war of attrition because as long as one survives you can all get picked up.

[rocky gust]

nah was playing infy BT

[rain violet]

Either way, embarassing.

[merry heart]

and install the kissing

im kidding btw

[next onyx]

One thing I like to do when dealing with a squad is after killing one or two, run and then see who trips the claymore in an attempted flank.

[rain violet]

I love just waiting a second because no one will try and finish you before trying to revive so you get a free kill maybe two if they get the revive off.

People just rush that revive without thinking.

[merry heart]

hmm El Alamein isn't my cup of tea because of the vehicle combat, which might be great for others. so i just sit back, sip a coffee, relax, and snipe.

[rotund shore]

she battles on my field till im 42

[jade belfry]

Anyone here from Australia still playing BF2042?

[full sluice]

ayoo

[vital quail]

They really need to take breakaway out of rotation

It's crashing way too often

[vital quail]

First map after coming back on is breakaway again... smh

Can't even make a bug report on it because it isn't even happening to me personally

[frozen loom]

You don't like the map?

[vital quail]

It's crashes a lot after one of the recent updates

[frozen loom]

Never had that happen to me.

[vital quail]

Most recent one had 62 players on my team and 61 on the other. 2.5 minutes later I check the scoreboard and it's 23 mine and 28 other team.

Idk when it happened but I definitely noticed a lot more bots like a minute before checking the 2nd time

[frozen loom]

[frozen loom]

Just played Breakthrough.

582-0.

[proven falcon]

[frozen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-soul-eater-excalibur-sipping-drinking-gif-17500286

[twilit thorn]

I think it's a great idea! Let's just say I'd exclude the reddit members! I'd really rather look for old bf2-3-4 clans than the cousins ​​transferred from cod, but I'm a beginner with a sniper and what do I care what's going on with my squad, I just want the smart guys to have good k/d! Unfortunately, we've reached the point where we're in real life with the under 35 age group...not great, but they're damn smart and they tell everyone what's good... Teamwork zero! Tactics zero! It's true that these old locker, metro brains still swear that a heli will humiliate them on a vehicle map... Heli is too op! 😄 I'm not even talking about the latest stealth bomber with kerosene bombs when you come down with stats over 100/0 😄 The point is that it's good, that we can really help with the development. It would be good to find a server, it would be good to have an external server for rent like in the past, administrable with procon. With as many community missions as possible, so that the team has to work together to get an attachment. I really liked the bf4 LA Dice camo mission! It was a plus that it had to be obtained on last season's maps.. I really want the Hungarian community to revive too.- I loved it when there were still 15-25 active Hungarian clans playing and we could organize amateur tournaments 🙂 I pre-order without seeing it, of course, you can fic, but when 2 cartons of cigarettes cost more, when we spend half and a million just for a new GPU, then I feel a bit like crying... Anyway, I put 5000 hours into bf2042, I have an s999 and an s260 account. I think the game is good, I like it and I'm also very happy that I met 2-3 cheaters who were banned, and the anticheat system also tested well! Of course, I see that 80% of gamers go with the usual zero tactics, zero teamwork attitude.... This is a bigger problem than the fact that there may be bugs in the game.

[lapis sluice]

🐎

[vital quail]

Wrote a damn book

[tall brook]

Scribe o 2042

[mystic jacinth]

Battlefield 2042 witht the ultimate upgrade for $18. Worth it now?

[vital quail]

Unlocking most, if not all of the post launch stuff is not very hard

[brittle wind]

Nah, you can unlock everything ultimate has

[naive ember]

Nah it's been dead for a few months

Should've came back like I did when s6 came out

Insane experience now it's just bad

[chilly jacinth]

Why do you always talk shit

[vital quail]

The bait master

[azure basalt]

holo point CS sight for ak5c is not 1.25x its 1.5x cmon dice

[zenith nacelle]

مين يلعب بتل فايف ؟

[brittle wind]

Holo is 1.25 afaik

I use it more than Fusion because it looks better imo in terms of clarity

[azure basalt]

no its fusion holo yes this new sight for ak5c only is 1.50x

Holo point CS

[brittle wind]

It says 1.25 on description but I wouldn't be surprised if stat page is inaccurate again

[azure basalt]

its inaccurate

i tested it

[brittle wind]

Sorrow's page says 1.25 though but you might be right too

[azure basalt]

dice pls

[brittle wind]

They ain't fixing that

They didn't fixed barrel issue of SWS and SVK for years

[azure basalt]

Lol

but a sight change wont be that hard right dice

just change the value lol

[chilly jacinth]

They wont change it

[azure basalt]

also why they have a zoom setting for 1.00x scope when the game it self doesnt have it

[azure basalt]

yeah very unlikely

i wish for the next BF have pure 1.00x sight scope.. i play on low FOV i don't want my gun to zoom even more

[remote kiln]

do you have your ads fov as affected?

[azure basalt]

nope

ads fov is on

so its doesnt use zoom fov

[remote kiln]

iirc iron sights are 1x from memory but i may be wrong

[azure basalt]

no.. it 1.25x

i tried using Iron sight

[remote kiln]

with that being said there hasnt been any "true" 1.0x scopes in any battlefield game since bad company 2 because of how the magnification works, so it was probably sticking to tradition

[azure basalt]

bf 5 and 1 have it

it doesnt zoom your fov at all

[remote kiln]

they are not actually 1x scopes

[azure basalt]

if you choose 1.00x of course

[remote kiln]

no, thats only 1.0x before the magnification takes place, same of how it works in this game, 1.25x is actually closer to 1.75x

[azure basalt]

but both game doesnt change my fov though

[remote kiln]

it doesnt need to

all scopes have an added multiplier

fov =/= magnification

[azure basalt]

well... nonetheless i doesnt change my hip fov

so i can ads with my hip fov

[remote kiln]

not entirely? sure why youd play on low fov tbh considering a wide fov gives you a massive advantage but oh well

[azure basalt]

well not really low i mean in the middle like 90

[remote kiln]

resolution?

[azure basalt]

1920x1080

[remote kiln]

mid 90's/1080 is quite low all things considered

[brittle wind]

I play on 90 too, what should be the ideal FOV?

[azure basalt]

dang... never thought of that lol but i just feel right using that fov

[remote kiln]

if it feels right then theres no problem per say, you may just not be aware of how the coefficient works

[azure basalt]

i used to have 105 back in 3 4 1 V

idk why 2042 feels right using 90 im going back and fort to 105 and 90

[remote kiln]

depends on a few things, your dpi, screen resolution being the primary ones, higher resolutions mean you can drop the fov because there is already more things on the screen (1:1) for the same percent, e.g. 4k at 90 will have significantly more things than say 1080p, id generally say 100-110 is ideal for 1080p because your screen res is already quite limited

[next onyx]

I use 133% i believe?

[remote kiln]

just make sure to avoid fisheye

[brittle wind]

Ok thanks

I might try 100

[next onyx]

Wait this is fov not USA.

I just run 89.

[remote kiln]

just make sure your coefficient is set correctly

if its not and you change your fov your aiming will be off, significantly

[remote kiln]

the % differs per size of the screen

16:9 21:9 etc

[azure basalt]

theres more than 105 fov ?

i thought its only 105 max

[glass apex]

I’m excited to be here !!!!! Goodmorning all . 2042 turned out to be good but I hope this new one give feels of BF3 or BF4 !!! Those were top tier. Bfv too

[azure basalt]

welcome my guy

glad you enjoy 2042

[glass apex]

Yerrrooooooooo

[next onyx]

I remember there being a mix of resolution and screen. I believe the most commonly known ones are 133, 189 and 200 something?

It's been a really long time since I've had to do my USA.

[remote kiln]

its the max available via the settings, but you can go higher via the config files, 110/120 etc

[azure basalt]

HOW
?

TELL ME

[remote kiln]

just be aware there may be fisheye effects

[azure basalt]

I wanted to try it out tbh

[next onyx]

I ran max on bf5 but I found it to be no longer necessary.

[remote kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyNIwncIyJc

[azure basalt]

thank yoU!

i might like it

[remote kiln]

no worries

110 at 3440 for me causes massive banding so i just use 95

[azure basalt]

its not bannable right

[remote kiln]

cant recall the figures off the top of my head

[remote kiln]

supported, no, bannable? theyd have done it way before if so

[next onyx]

I might have an excuse to open the game up now that interest has been renewed somewhat.

But fuck.

[remote kiln]

ive not touched the game in a few months, the input bug is too frustrating

[next onyx]

I don't feel it on mouse and keyboard but I feel it on roller.

Kinda funny huh

Let's hope they don't fuck up the engine huh

[azure basalt]

yeah

[remote kiln]

id be very, very surprised if that happened under sirland's watch

[azure basalt]

pls having a good mouse input for the next BF

[brittle wind]

I hope it runs on my 3700X CPU

[remote kiln]

of course itll run

[brittle wind]

Well 2042 runs too but 128 was constant slow mo for me

[next onyx]

3800xt3d

[azure basalt]

good thing next bf is not 128

[remote kiln]

128 is axed and not coming back, in fairness the 3700x is pretty bad by modern day but you should be ok

[next onyx]

I feel like since 128 being removed it won't be strangling the CPU so it should last a little longer.