battlefield-2042

[merry crypt]

We ain’t got a say with how you be spending it

[arctic grove]

gotta have fit to play these type games bru

[merry crypt]

Nah bro I be playing at the most random of fits and random of moods

[arctic grove]

personally i feel like sht if i John Wick ppl with default skin icl

[merry crypt]

That’s even funnier

[arctic grove]

still

[merry crypt]

Turn sensitivity to max and start headshotting people

When you do, start spinning

Watch as the reports fly

[arctic grove]

there any false bans?

[merry crypt]

Ofc every game has that

[arctic grove]

fk

[merry crypt]

Some dudes be getting mad you’re better than them

But you should be fine

[arctic grove]

bro i get 30-40 kills every match though

[merry crypt]

Ayo i didn’t mean it like that

[arctic grove]

will that sht get me banned?

[chilly jacinth]

havent seen any false bans in this game

[merry crypt]

I’d say no

[arctic grove]

i do teabags too

[chilly jacinth]

also that many kills isnt even close to sus

[arctic grove]

that banable?

[silver halo]

even cheaters don't get banned so its ok

[merry crypt]

I think some people would flag that as toxic

It shouldn’t be bannable but it is

[arctic grove]

damn

fkn minors

[merry crypt]

Yeah it’s supposed to be psychological warfare to teabag

Not even some grown ass adults report that

The kids don’t know how to report yet

Oh damn we got tracer darts in 2042?

[arctic grove]

bro there's teabaggin festival in the finals sht is a taboo in that game

[merry crypt]

I think the last time I teabagged was in Halo: Reach

Also I think my stats ingame are messed up to the max

It says 72 kills on the AC-42 but when I look at the challenge it says 99/100

[torpid wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[merry crypt]

Even if I put in 14 headshot kills it still isn’t enough

Damn Todd Howard

The Elder Battle 5: Skyrimfield

[ebon pilot]

I feel like a lot of the stats use completely different definitions for kills. Some use "kills" where you kill someone and they don't get revived, others use "kills" where you kill someone and it counts whether they revive or not, and some might use assists where you dealt the most damage too.

[merry crypt]

Well the only thing I know is entirely correct is accuracy

Not one gun that isn’t a shotgun is more than 20% accurate

[full burrow]

I think headshot accuracy is one of the my worst stats

but I never really try to aim for the head

I did one point when I was using DMRs but I havnt really been able to get into them lately

[merry crypt]

It’s just too much work to aim for heads when you’re running around

Sure if the gunfight lasts more than 1 second you will adjust but most of my kills stem from just reactions and centermass shots

[arctic grove]

when ur in close quarters you dont have time to react perfectly, u just try to get the first shot off

[merry crypt]

Yep and that’s when my ability to aim reaches zero

Last game choked an ambush two times

[full burrow]

if its like point blank try to hip fire

[merry crypt]

Do not underestimate how ass I can be in certain moments

Also does double xp waste itself in bots only?

[vocal tusk]

Its active whenever you are in a game

[merry crypt]

What a waste

[remote kiln]

..?

[merry crypt]

Nah I was just having fun in bots mode watching them do weird stuffs

Now I have 15 min

[remote kiln]

ye I mean the timer does tick down

[merry crypt]

Unfortunate

Spawned into a vehicle ram immediately

[spring shale]

is it better to revive tap and heal

or revive full

[patent pivot]

I think for uhhh

[spring shale]

falck

[patent pivot]

Fuck, what's that dudes name with

Supply drop

He can revive fully without hold

Falck cannot

[remote kiln]

always revive full when you can

absolutely always do this, if you try and heal them you leave yourself vulnerable to being killed by other players

[chilly jacinth]

theres no reason to not full revive as Falck

she has by default faster revives

[patent pivot]

I don't think she has the full HP revive tap

Only the uhh

The other dude

[junior galleon]

i love the other dude

[chilly jacinth]

Angel gives ammo when he revives

[patent pivot]

Angel!!

[chilly jacinth]

and Irish gives gadget ammo

[patent pivot]

Then did I read his description wrong?

Can you recall angel

[chilly jacinth]

you probably read it wrong

[patent pivot]

So he gives ammo upon revive

[chilly jacinth]

yep

[patent pivot]

Damn ok

[sacred turtle]

I need huge help

I cannot level up my air vehicles, its so hard to get them and their default weapons suck especially for the planes

I cannot find portal servers with bots where they incrase your attachment progression

[chilly jacinth]

just host a portal server yourself and kill bots

[sacred turtle]

the servers I host have no bots

[stone cradle]

full always

[chilly jacinth]

you need to set it so it does have bots

[merry crypt]

Bouta do that for the AA tank

There is infection?

[modest ivy]

got this guy in my squad

[stone cradle]

you found colonel 100

[merry crypt]

I’m worried for his well being

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/bffs-soldiers-chopper-gif-13800027

[chilly jacinth]

dont be

[merry crypt]

Talking to women means you’re not playing battlefield

Going to work means you’re not playing battlefield

[modest ivy]

perks of being a woman is I can do both AND be insane, all at the same time

[merry crypt]

Being insane and talking to yourself means you’re communicating with your team which means more kills

[lone void]

if you're a woman who streams battlefield for a living, you have the unholy trinity right there

[robust vapor]

be a d0k

[modest ivy]

I don't stream

[lone void]

damn

missed out

2/3 will do

[merry crypt]

Eh as long as you can so objective it matters not

[lone void]

most people in 2042 have never heard of the word

"objective"

[patent pivot]

Might as well have tdm permanent

[merry crypt]

Regular tdm goes too quickly

[sacred turtle]

will solo/coop work?

[modest ivy]

for what?

[sacred turtle]

unlocking vehicles attachments what else

[vocal tusk]

Yup

[modest ivy]

yup

[vocal tusk]

Is it possible to make a portal mode with AI and get moderate XP?

[fickle wharf]

yes

[ionic gale]

yes in normal solo/coop you can unlock all attachments for weapons and all unlocks for vehicles

[sacred turtle]

for heli rocket pots does this yellow circle mean when they will hit? or does that only work for the machine gun?

[arctic grove]

Is it me or explosions in the game seem a bit off the colour doesn't look like fiery just a red ball really?

[merry crypt]

It means you fully locked on. Doesn't mean it'll hit but your missiles will try to hit

[sacred turtle]

like sometimes its gray and I can still shoot rocket pods

I just dont know if they shoot at the center fixed crossfire or the moving yellow circle crossfire

[merry crypt]

It fires in the middle at first but if you managed to turn the thing yellow it should try to follow

Wait you can fire when it's gray?

[sacred turtle]

yes

[merry crypt]

Damn

[fickle wharf]

yellow circle is the point of impact

[torpid wadi]

Gonna miss that free weekend

Now I won’t be able to play with my friend

[fickle wharf]

dont have 10 bucks for the game?

[torpid wadi]

He don’t think it’s worth 12

[fickle wharf]

[torpid wadi]

I can’t blame him

[sacred turtle]

yeah I just learned this finally when I have time to play around with bots, this is why I was missing every single bullet with plane and heli

i was never aiming with the yellow circle

so all bullets miss

[pine roost]

Don’t forget to account for the displacement of the actual rocket pods

Up close you need to do a little side to side shimmy

[deft tinsel]

what the fuck is wrong with the rpgs

you shoot someone in the face and it does -39

[pine roost]

Desync most likely.
Shouldn’t be doing that

[ebon pilot]

and you're not supposed to use it on infantry

[arctic grove]

Yop, I need help with BattleField 2042. It won't launch despite reinstalling Windows 11, reinstalling the game (via Steam), updating my graphics drivers. I tried to contact support by chat, but they only told me to update my drivers before closing the ticket. Do you have a solution?

[vocal tusk]

What happens when it launches...does it always fail to launch and at what stage?

[arctic grove]

i've a crash report handler

[pine roost]

Just had a thought, if the bomber is going to be added later, would that mean it’ll just be a set of challenges to unlock

[arctic grove]

"The application has encountered an unexcepted error"

Can't create directory \??\C:\ProgramData\eaanticheat\Crashdumps\: C0000022
Code: C0000005
Address: 00007FFAC9800000
RAX: 0000000000001040   RCX: 43e28b05dd7d4d00
RDX: 0000000000010001   RBX: 43e28b05dd7d4d00
RSP: 000000efab3fd3b8   RBP: 000000efab3fd4b0
RSI: ffffffffc0000022   RDI: 00000000000000c8
R8:  43e28b05dd7d4d00   R9:  00000000000000c8
R10: ffffffffc0000022   R11: 0000000000000246
R12: 00007ffac8540000   R13: 0000000000000000
R14: 00007ffab50b5000   R15: 00007ffac9040000
If reporting this error, please include all of the above lines.
Failed.

[pine roost]

Of course it’s the anticheat

I remember with eac you could manually delete it and rebooting would refresh its files, can you do that with the new one too?

[merry crypt]

Anticheat works more on regular people than cheaters

[vocal tusk]

Try repairing the anticheat.

Go to wherever the game is installed > EAAntiCheat folder > Run EAAntiCheat.installer.exe > click repair

[arctic grove]

ty i'll try this now 🙂

I've "Install success" from the installer

[vocal tusk]

See if the game launches now

[arctic grove]

uh

mmh

Dumping finished. File:
C:\ProgramData\eaanticheat\Crashdumps\PACKER_9671656_31204.dmp
Finished.

I've this now

"The application has encountered an unexcepted error"

[pine roost]

Well i guess something’s changed since it can dump the file properly

[vocal tusk]

You might just try deleting the EAAntiCheat.GameServiceLauncher.exe and EAAntiCheat.GameServiceLauncher..dll in the main folder where the game is installed, then relaunch the game.

[arctic grove]

I'll try, ty

Now he doesn't want to take the plunge
EA displays "Game preparation" then the game closes (Steam changes the game status from "running" to "play")

[vocal tusk]

So its at least getting further?

[arctic grove]

bro game's cool and all but why's it +80GB???

i mean there no campaign mode or anything

[arctic grove]

i think

[patent path]

try launching the EA app first then launch the game via steam

or run EA app updater first

[modern stirrup]

Which one should I use for accuracy, tactical comp or arcom/champion? Tactical has +accuracy but arcom and champion has better accuracy numberwise

[patent path]

this one

[arctic grove]

ty, i'll try this

[vocal tusk]

20 maps, 7 of them have 2 versions for just conquest. All of those maps have different layouts and cover for Breakthrough, rush and TDM also.

100+ weapons with different skins and unique models, 60+ vehicles, many with different skins and models. 80gb seems about correct by decent modern standards.

[arctic grove]

istg this EA luncher is unnecessary bru it only fuksup everything else from ping to what bro is facing rn

i've this : EA app version 13.152.0.5665 will be upgraded to version 13.162.0.5675. So I'm updating, ty 🙂

[arctic grove]

u got the game for free?

I bought it during the spring steam sale

8€99 iirc

cool

enjoy bro

thx 😄

i mean at least it's better than cod

[vocal tusk]

Tis different to COD, and I prefer it also...but it is severely lacking in content.

[arctic grove]

never played cod except bo2 on wii and cod mobile

[vocal tusk]

But as a new player that probably wont be an issue for you for a while. Just resign yourself to the fact that through normal matchmaking...youll likely not get to play a lot of the maps this game has to offer. 😄

[pine roost]

On the Wii? Sheesh. Didn’t even know they put their games on there

[arctic grove]

wii u*

[deft tinsel]

i feel like dice's first priorities for every little update are to buff helis in some way

[arctic grove]

bro I've never liked cod except bo2 hell haven't bought any of the cod after bo2 but i used to play the warzone nd all that got tired of it but i always liked bf series started with bad company 2, b3 next and b4 and hardline haven't played bf1 or V though but yh battlefield has special place in ma heart ong would buy them later battlefields 1,V,2042 if had stronger PC

[pine roost]

Well they did just nerf them

Raised flare cooldown

[arctic grove]

yuh cod bo2 was sick

[pine roost]

Take that as you will

[deft tinsel]

lmao then nerfed the wildcat

and rao hack again no?

[vocal tusk]

Rao was nerfed

[deft tinsel]

1 step forward, 2 steps back

i love dice

[pine roost]

I don’t mind since I just use the gustaf against helis anyways

[vocal tusk]

Wildcat nerfed also, it was justified. And is also AA only now.

[pine roost]

And I enjoy flying myself

[deft tinsel]

i mean sure make it AA only, that's not the problem

the problem is nerfing its AA capabilities as well

literally why?

[full burrow]

trying to counter helis is so stale tho, if you get a lock and shoot they just hide until flairs are back up, a bit boring trying to babysit it the whole time

[arctic grove]

bro wut worries me is that now that i could get myself a budget laptop to play bf2042 it's Asus TUF gaming laptop they wanna kill it 😞

[deft tinsel]

don't even bother

boring as shit

[pine roost]

Well what else do you expect

[deft tinsel]

you watch the skies 24/7 then get called shit for not having 69 kills

[vocal tusk]

Cos they made it's range buff to support 128 conquest maps, but all maps were made smaller. The Wildcat doesn't need max damage beams that reach one side of maps to the other.

[deft tinsel]

god forbid 1 thing to scare heli players, can't have that

[pine roost]

Wildcat also had indefinite vertical lock range for some reason

[full burrow]

idk map design that doesnt give them tons of hiding spots you cant reach?

AA lock range is 500m no?

[errant patio]

How does the clean exit trophy work

[pine roost]

Oh yeah and the wildcat turret got its turret rotation buff

[full burrow]

which oftne really doesnt feel like a lot

[arctic grove]

What should I do now? My game still won't launch, I've just emptied the EA App caches, but still nothing :/

[errant patio]

Is it voided if someone gets downed or what

[arctic grove]

haven't saw or got killed by any heli players though maybe was busy farmin ground bots but yh haven't noticed anyth bro

[full burrow]

different topic but im guessing the bc2 maps had varying texture/terrain "glitches", was it compulsory not to fix them?

[pine roost]

They’ve been deploying various fixes to the portal maps but some can go unnoticed

[arctic grove]

did you got the game from steam?

[pine roost]

Have you submitted a report of it?

[full burrow]

no but there is no fucking way the ones im thinking off are unnoticed

[arctic grove]

or from their EA store or Epic or sum

[full burrow]

these are huuge relatively speaking, not like a small peak hole

[pine roost]

What kind of stuff do you see

[full burrow]

so you know the hill behind one of the B spots on arica harbour were people sit the one nearest to C

[arctic grove]

yes 🙂

[full burrow]

there is a massive fucking out of place texture you can fit a car into

[arctic grove]

damn bro i got the game yesterday had no issues tho

[modern stirrup]

Which one should I use for accuracy, tactical comp or arcom/champion? Tactical has +accuracy but arcom and champion has better accuracy numberwise

[arctic grove]

fire rate + accuracy

[pine roost]

Ive not come across that one, granted ive not touched Arica much

[solid imp]

accuracy through volume

[pine roost]

Again it might be worth putting up a forum post on it, could get it fixed

[full burrow]

theres no in game report function?

[pine roost]

Not for bugs

Forums is the central place

[full burrow]

fair

[arctic grove]

damn bro w bio (2500 hours on bf2042 that's whole ass years lmao)

btw i got like 7 achievements will i be able to 100% by the time next ones comin out??

i mean ppl will leave as soon as they stop makin content for it

im tryna 100% this sht

[pine roost]

I won’t

Just play at your own pace

[arctic grove]

i mean i will but also worried for the matchmaking

[pine roost]

Considering that bf1 is still easily playable and that launched in 2016, don’t worry

[arctic grove]

can i upgrade to elite edition though? i already got the standard version bro

like after some time

i wanna get those season 1-4 missables

[pine roost]

Don’t bother

[arctic grove]

why

[pine roost]

It’s all free anyways

You’ll just be wasting £20

[arctic grove]

wha

[pine roost]

Takes like 2 games to get any of the weapons or gadgets

[arctic grove]

i meant the cosmetics bro

[pine roost]

Oh, in that case it depends on whether you’re willing to shell out the money for them

Only you can decide that

[arctic grove]

if it gonna expand game's lifespan im willing to shell hell im willing to suck all the DICE employees dryup fr

this ain't nothing

imo they shouldn't work on any other IP bro smart would be make this title a forever never ending live service game

[pine roost]

Glad to see someone actually wanting them to carry on with this game

[arctic grove]

keep the game live and bring new stuff keep polishing this gem fr it's good enough for me icl

[pine roost]

But in the end it’s just down to whether you like the skins

[arctic grove]

yuh gotta look slick in the warfield

[ebon pilot]

found a guy with the name IIllIlllIIIIllI

[pine roost]

No way it’s level cap

[arctic grove]

bro i mean even game's battlefield 2042 name is sth special unlike any of the precious ones i mean they could make it a forever never ending title like Fortnite yk?? like each time they make big changes after 10 seasons or sth into the game like add big stuff they could add +1 to the 2042 like 2043 with new maps better visuals, new reload animations and features and sht yfm G???

[pine roost]

Won’t be as long lasting as that, Fortnite kicked off excellently, this…wasn’t quite as successful. But I applaud your enthusiasm

[ebon pilot]

is level cap only S039

always using the pp-29

and spawn in the only heli in the match just to bail from it immediately?

[pine roost]

No clue.
I just know he’s used that name many times before

Or rather some combination of bars

[pine roost]

Such a chad move though

[arctic grove]

i jus dnt want it die fam 😭

[pine roost]

Will admit they are still pushing some good changes

[arctic grove]

and this my first game on first new gaming machine ong

[pine roost]

Ah

Reminds me of me getting into bf4 :)

[arctic grove]

ong it feels the same bro

i use the bf4 gun in here too bro reminds me of bf4

its bf4 allover again

[solid imp]

just keep playing and do things that are fun for you.. like I'm finally getting around to pushing Rao to 999 🙂 been on my to-do for awhile and haven't sat and focused on it

[arctic grove]

ong gonna play this till the new one comes out (though i hope it never does and they decide to focus on this)

[pine roost]

Well the next one has been in dev for a little while now, and while from and outsiders perspective it looks to be rather rocky, I imagine 2042 will keep getting patches

[arctic grove]

ong bro like i jus bought this gaming laptop to play this and GTA VI when drops

bro if they keep this battlefield in their radar and keep making seasons and sht like new maps and all ong i will go to places bro like ong i will fall onto ma knees ong im folding rn

[tawny carbon]

Sheesh, Rao to 999, that’s wild

[solid imp]

eh it's fast if it's all you do for awhile

i'm at 745

[arctic grove]

you on steam?

[tawny carbon]

Like S rank or mastery rank?

[solid imp]

mastery

[tawny carbon]

[solid imp]

😄 if it helps I'm at like 465 or such S rank

[amber kelp]

mmmm
42 has no server browser and comm severs are limited to portal. I dont think it will last as long

[arctic grove]

oh you has PC role mb

[tawny carbon]

Ngl, that would be me with Paik but I wanna T1 other specialists

[arctic grove]

bite yo tongue man 😭

[solid imp]

imo the red looks good most of the time... a few not great but mostly good

the t1 red

[next onyx]

No server browser for aow hurts this game massively.

[tawny carbon]

I like the T1 for everything. I just been hopping around different weapons and specialist to much set of only focusing on one thing till it’s done

[arctic grove]

so why not just tell them to add bro ,

[amber kelp]

we have been asking for a server browser in 42 for years

[arctic grove]

damn

[next onyx]

What do you think we've been protesting for since launch.

[arctic grove]

ayo im sure there DICE employee or sum in here

[amber kelp]

trust me they know

[arctic grove]

ayo be a bro and add server browser man

🙏🏻

[tawny carbon]

I mean 😪 new devs, different pov

[next onyx]

The game can be fun but having no choice over what server we choose just makes the burn out worse.

[amber kelp]

just cause they know dont mean theyre gonna do it tho

[pine roost]

Will definitely have a tangible impact once services start rolling down I will admit

[next onyx]

When rush XL was live I literally almost played the entire rotation and didn't realise how far time flew.

[pine roost]

Not being able to choose maps is the absolute worst

[next onyx]

But that's also a thing into persistent servers as well.

I'd be willing to sit down and learn the map rotation to play and avoid the worst of the worst.

[pine roost]

There’s me not really liking any to begin with, but not ensuring I play ones I marginally like is a tremendous pain

[next onyx]

Lemme guarantee an orbital match.

Or some shit.

[arctic grove]

dk wut to say man hope they gonn reconsider bout allat i mean like why tf not give what players ask it just gonna add gazillions to their social credits

[pine roost]

This late I don’t think they will

[arctic grove]

its never to late bro

[pine roost]

In past titles the browser was the main way to find official experiences, but average Joe’s won’t get the player counts to make making official-like servers worth setting up since it’s out of the way and not the core method of actually getting matches now

[amber kelp]

its likely a cost saving measure. They are probably using serverless architecture: it deletes empty servers and creates new ones when theyre all full, so only the optimal number of servers are used. Cant have people staying in the server with that system

[arctic grove]

i mean for example most ppl left the game cuz of all that or whatever tf the reason and i know they all are like "this sht is ass so ima wait for the new bf" but when they realize there won't be any new bf and that them devs just gonna fix/change/add things on here bro on god i know i just know the game servers will be flooded and run out of space for real

[amber kelp]

Can you write in english please?

[arctic grove]

💀

i didn't misspelled none bro wdym?

[amber kelp]

bro ong ik i jus kno

[arctic grove]

bro I fixed it

bro if i could just work in DICE for battlefield on god i could save this game

[ebon pilot]

lol

lmao even

[arctic grove]

game would be on top of market stock fr

[pine roost]

Swag

[tawny carbon]

Idk about that. The community for battlefield is always having mood swings recently of what they want and what they don’t want, and what they feel about content and how they shit on the devs anyways, playing or not playing the game.

[solid imp]

this always seemed most likely to me.. it's not only cost savings but faster update deployment/smaller patch windows

[pine roost]

Ive come to realise the ebb and flow since i started engaging more the community on this one

[solid imp]

I think it's also that it's one of a pretty short list of major fps games that have managed to legitimately span multiple generations

[tawny carbon]

Community is always priority obviously. It also depends on the man power and how the game is also. Not everything can or will be in the game. Input is also something to look at for ideas/suggestions.

[pine roost]

They’ve done a pretty good job of filtering through and being clear about their changes thus far

[arctic grove]

there's a saying "if you are gonna stir the pot of shit then be prepared to lick the spoon" bro idk about game's community but it seems that DICE and EA were treated like sht by their gamers community so why tf would they take notes of what they want

[pine roost]

With a few exceptions though unfortunately

[solid imp]

in spite of the playerbase not being the same way, at DICE they are professionals doing a job 🙂

they listen

they have no incentive to ignore players

nor turn out a crap product

[arctic grove]

w devs

[hybrid flint]

can I unlock the portal guns for use in the main game

[pine roost]

Yes

Most of them, not all though

[hybrid flint]

the bad company ones?

[pine roost]

They’ll have set challenges needed to unlock them. The ones that can be played in the main game can be seen when you look at the collections tab for 2042’s weapon pool

[tawny carbon]

Yes. But there is also a limit to how much power to the community also. Devs also have to take into account for their roadmap to. If they have to side track to add it or can it be added during the roadmap. Some things do take forever and something can’t be implemented also.

[hybrid flint]

how do i know what the challenges for them are

[tawny carbon]

It also depends of how well it would fit into the game to

[arctic grove]

ik bro but i meant it by all the negative reviews i see even now on steam it's time to thaw the ice between the players and them fr

[pine roost]

Should be on the weapon itself, it’ll be greyed out with a little bf3, bc2 tag on the corner and should show it once clicked

[hybrid flint]

Thanks guys.

[pine roost]

Fortunately they’ve been doing a lot of community involved feedback sessions over the years

[arctic grove]

ur wlc

[arctic grove]

sick sht

[tawny carbon]

It helped them out a lot

[solid imp]

That's just a fact of AAA games. Everyone looks at Indie games like it's the gold standard for quality but even they have a roadmap that makes it hard to give the loudest players what they want. AAA just multiplies those challenges because the studio answers to shareholders not customers, even though those two are kinda sorta linked in ways.

[tawny carbon]

Fax

[pine roost]

And in general indies tend to specialise into a certain niche, so they know the playerbase they are capturing and can make more intuitive decisions based on that

When I don’t need to tell you how complicated battlefield can get in terms of how players approach the game

One change always affects some other part of the playerbase, making it incredibly fragile

[solid imp]

Well that's where I was going with the thought that BF has managed to span multiple generations, unlike a lot of FPS.

[tawny carbon]

Indie game is easier to work around with compared to AAA games that have thousands of devs and different devs teams also.

[solid imp]

Expectations and wishlist items are just... different to people with different perspectives and history with the game as a whole

[pine roost]

But a change in stardew valley will hardly cause an issue

[solid imp]

😄

meanwhile a AAA like xDefiant is sitting on the sidelines hoping for any players at all

[vocal tusk]

Indie isnt even what most people think anymore TBH. I work for an "Indie" studio...but we have 500 employees.

[stone cradle]

great idea man

I totally trust you

DICE just need to hire alot of fans and Activision will be in bankruptcy with how good Battlefield is

[tawny carbon]

XDefiant will do amazing. Sucks that it gets delayed a lot recently kek

[vocal tusk]

It will not

[stone cradle]

I doubt that

[vocal tusk]

there is no way it will do well IMO. It stands almost zero chance.

[stone cradle]

Because it seems like there's internal conflict on what the game even is now

According to the article henderson wrote out recently

[solid imp]

well... rubin replied to that but still

[tawny carbon]

Fun fact. MW19 hired modders on the low to help out work on the game to make it better than it was. That’s also before trash new IW dev team before MW22.

[stone cradle]

Replied, more like dancing around the truth

[vocal tusk]

Its been delayed months to miss out on other key game releases. And even its owner/lead dev stated that since the last beta (Months ago) they are not adding any new features aside from more social features.

I cant see a world in which the game I played back then...releasing in a full version is going to be a success in the current FPS landscape

[tawny carbon]

I’m speculating it’s gonna be a spring release and it’s probably a better timing anyways.

[vocal tusk]

I dont really think it matters when it releases.

[stone cradle]

They targetted 31st of march

We're almost there and zero communication

Another delay to summer ig

[tawny carbon]

It’s not gonna be in march just saying

[vocal tusk]

Same with the new Delta force. I dont think that it will sustain a massive playerbase post release. People are just sick of hero shooters

[tawny carbon]

It’s gonna miss this current quarter 100%

[stone cradle]

lmao delta force will flop

[pine roost]

You say that, but if that’s true then it would have never stood a chance even if it launched earlier. Would have been overshadowed by mw3 later on anyways

[solid imp]

that's why I just sit here and keep grinding 2042 🙂

it's fun

and released

[tawny carbon]

[solid imp]

and with players

[stone cradle]

I feel bad for saying that to the devs but it's true

It feels like a mobile game ported to pc

[vocal tusk]

But all the delays and people just dont care anymore.

[pine roost]

I’m surprised if people who looked forward to it suddenly don’t care

[tawny carbon]

I’m just saying, XDefiant will be releasing in the next quarter. Not this current one.

[solid imp]

this is what BF hit as well... it simply took a long time for some core bugs to get fixed and too many people quit waiting

there's a window in time, and if you miss it.. you've missed it

[vocal tusk]

You can see how people comment on their posts/posts by their lead dev. Its a shame, cos maybe it would evolve into somethoing good post release/player feedback. But I dont think it will be all that much different from beta > full game. And the beta was kinda just OK.

[tawny carbon]

I have a strong feeling XDefiant will drop in either June or July. I’ll be surprised if it’s may or April.

[vocal tusk]

This game kinda had to do that TBH. They had to rip out the insides and redo most fo the game.

[pine roost]

Well from my perspective, the beta was fun, I want more of that, so I’m happy waiting

Nuff said really

[stone cradle]

No SBMM and classic Black Ops feel is why so many people like XDefiant. The second they change those 2, I don't see it having a chance at all

[remote kiln]

it's not changing

[tawny carbon]

^

[remote kiln]

lol

[stone cradle]

I'm just saying they might because they supposedly want to chase cod more than do their own thing

[solid imp]

ok I was part of starting this tangent but I feel like I should reel this back to the #battlefield-2042 topic 🙂

[tawny carbon]

SBMM is strictly in ranked as it should be. Newcomer playlist will have some sort of SBMM but not strong. CBMM is priority anyways in XD.

[remote kiln]

https://fxtwitter.com/PixelsofMark/status/1771668345315565767?s=19 they're not stop spreading misinformation

[tawny carbon]

🫡

[remote kiln]

after discord doesn't update with the mod message* cool

[solid imp]

haha I just assumed you had that round chambered already

[remote kiln]

nah lmao it got queued then everything mass updated at once

[vocal tusk]

2042 also had to have longer than 1 year of support, to get away from the stigma of BFVs quickly ended support. You had so many people around season 3 of 2042 saying "They are gonna drop support after the year 1 pass content is finished and move on". Had they done that, the franchise would have forever been tarred with that brush.

For the next game...people will at least have faith that it will be supported for long after release. Hopefully the next game is better from day 1, and is more plentiful content wise post launch tho.

[stone cradle]

Oh I didn't see that tweet, only his half truth response to the Henderson article

[tawny carbon]

Anyways. I hope next BF title have levolution. They need to bring that back from BF4

[solid imp]

what would levolution have been in 2042 🤔

[pine roost]

Only if it is actually fun in both states

[stone cradle]

I don't care about levelotion, that's overhyped imo

[remote kiln]

30hz tick servers

[solid imp]

LOL

[stone cradle]

I prefer consistent destruction

Levelotion is flashy

[vocal tusk]

2042 has one levelution event. the rocket on Orbital.

[tawny carbon]

I mean. They can do 60hz ez. Let’s be real kek

[pine roost]

And the crane on kaleidoscope

[vocal tusk]

They can if they go back to 64P

[tawny carbon]

It barely changes anything about the map tho

[stone cradle]

I mean it does, no more rocket

[vocal tusk]

It changes the entire flag , so hardly true

[stone cradle]

[solid imp]

I think there's room for something in between "standard" destruction and levolution... something that changes the flow of gameplay but doesn't have to be this big bombastic event

[stone cradle]

And all the debris around the objective

[solid imp]

Kaleidoscope final BT base... damage the building enough and new openings appear and rubble piles up to ramp up to the second floor

[stone cradle]

Can we have all the natural disasters from the lore of 2042 instead

[tawny carbon]

Meh. It’s alright. I wanna see the main tall building fall tbh

[vocal tusk]

Even cooler when a tornado hits the rocket and it explodes.

[stone cradle]

Like floods/tsunamis and landslides

[tawny carbon]

To much work

[vocal tusk]

IIRC, Exposure art shows a landslide

[stone cradle]

Or you know.. A Firestorm

[solid imp]

it's called Breakaway, implying something... breaks... away

[tawny carbon]

You have to take to in account for last gen consoles for 2042 also

[stone cradle]

Yeah I've heard they wanted to add much more than just tornados but had to cut ambitions because of time

[chilly jacinth]

the landslide is why youre on the map in the first place

they say as much in the intro to it

[solid imp]

that holds up on Exposure as well

I mean Breakaway smh

oops

[tawny carbon]

[chilly jacinth]

smh my head

[stone cradle]

Should we believe them really if we never see the landslide for ourselves?

[solid imp]

tin foil moment?

[tawny carbon]

[stone cradle]

[tawny carbon]

[stone cradle]

It's a conspiracy to give justification to attack the facility

[solid imp]

yes but

is it 20 tiers of classified?

[tawny carbon]

Average Community response: If I don’t experience it, it’s called laziness on the devs part

[stone cradle]

No it's a lie to convince us natural disasters are real and not manmade

[tawny carbon]

Is it real tho

[solid imp]

oh so you don't want your families well fed by taking back that agricultural wonder?

[stone cradle]

if we never saw them, then did they really happen?

[stone cradle]

Oz absolutely had some blackmail to get people to join him

[tawny carbon]

He is onto something here

[vocal tusk]

I really wish that instead of having that server building in the middle of Kaleidoscope...there was a skyscraper. It would have made for such an interesting map to have the central point be a high and a low flag. AKA...like siege of shanghai.

[stone cradle]

Man, I thought hourglass from the reveal trailer was going to be siege of shanghai but in a desert

Night only map

[vocal tusk]

I actually do really like fighting in the city part of Hourglass

[tawny carbon]

They had that in the OG launch orbital. “It didnt work as intended” so they revamped the flags

Top and bottom flag

Of the same building

[solid imp]

I think Doha has a subway system... that should have been in the city area to give it more depth

[vocal tusk]

The big hill that split the map and was an 800m square empty area is what killed OG orbital for me. I really like the remake of orbital for Conquest Large

[stone cradle]

I thought the whole map was going to be the city

[tawny carbon]

Look at the hourglass from its development

[stone cradle]

Was excited for a proper middle Eastern urban map since Tehran from BF3

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, even the trailer basically only showed combat in the city, in elevators and on rooftops. I felt a bit baited lol

Yeah, concept art for hourglass shows what it could have looked like as a current gen only map

[stone cradle]

[tawny carbon]

I wish they cut out last gen for this

Last gen ruin good games

[vocal tusk]

You cant...not with how few consoles were sold at the time 2042 released.

[solid imp]

I'm seeing a map designed for hazard zone there.... 👀

[tawny carbon]

They can easily make it new gen only. Fuck the last gen players. It’s their fault for not upgrading

[tawny carbon]

“Was”

[stone cradle]

I can't imagine EA would be happy

Now it's much safer to go current gen only

[ionic gale]

the notion that an only current gen BF would have had better performance and would have been an all around better game is rather ridiculous

[stone cradle]

yeah the game was still very rushed

[tawny carbon]

That reminds me of something. But that’s another game tho. Don’t wanna go off topic. (BF2042 topic)

[solid imp]

[tawny carbon]

[vocal tusk]

This game was cursed from the start it is true. But there is no denying that not having to essentially design 2 games at the same time, across 2 console gens, and multiple console skews on those gens wouldn't help things.

[stone cradle]

They should make hourglass but it's just the city and heavily extended as a BF6 map and it's set at night. I'd play that

[tawny carbon]

Eww night maps

[stone cradle]

hey this isn't like BF1 night maps

You can actually see everything with how bright the buildings are now

Fighting on neon-lit rooftops, what could've been

[junior galleon]

so dawnbreaker?

[ionic gale]

the game was designed for ivory tower rigs that noone had in that time and the biggest issue was to think they could double the scale and the game suffered in all aspects for this hubris

[tawny carbon]

If it’s dim, sure. It’s its pitch back dark with light from streets lamps and buildings like from BF4 night op maps, Eww 😷

[cosmic dragon]

i hate most of the maps in 2042

[tawny carbon]

Zavod from BF4, sum like that.

[stone cradle]

never played on dawnbreaker as I barely played BF4 compared to 3. But yeah I guess. Dawnbreaker but set in Doha

[solid imp]

Dark/light areas of the map would be nice.. Stranded inside the ship could be really dark for example

[junior galleon]

yeah, dark like tehran highway or the night bc2 maps is fine, completely dark is meh

[arctic grove]

wouldnt it make making new maps a bit quicker if you dont have to think about a 10 yr old console as well as current gens

[cosmic dragon]

had a few good ones likes exposure, redacted and spearhead but the rest are either shit or just eh

[solid imp]

just overall fewer ambient light sources when you're out of the direct sunlight if it's all going to be day maps

[tawny carbon]

Completely dark maps turns into a hardcore camp fest. Aka boring to me.

[solid imp]

make flashlights useful again

[tawny carbon]

They blind targets

[vocal tusk]

IMO, haven would be a better map if C and B, or C and D were parts of the same sector.

[junior galleon]

purpose of flashlight is mostly to blind

[solid imp]

when you see emergency lighting in buildings running off generators or something, it's really not "well lit"

it's lit.. enough to move around

[dense patio]

Night vision time for the game

Has bf ever done that? Or just thermals

[solid imp]

BF2:SF expansion 🙂

[opal swallow]

anyone else got issues with the game, my bullets most of the time dont deal damage and enemies seems to shoot 1 bullet and kill me i can see and hear just 1 hitting me and im gone?

[tawny carbon]

Be prepared for flashbang and flashlight spam with flares

[solid imp]

yeah but that's fine, the map can still be daytime I just want there to be that flavor of gameplay in the areas that really should be dark

[ionic gale]

Possibly, but if that is, along with the pc crowd, like 60% of your market it might also be that audience you should develop the game for. And it ist also far easier to design maps for 64p or less.

[solid imp]

unless this hidden cliff facility is still fully powered while being bombarded by tanks and helicopters

and having sustained a landslide

[tawny carbon]

me when i experience that happening

(Mentally)

[dense patio]

I haven’t played 2042 since August 23 has a lot happened ? Haven’t followed news at all

[ebon pilot]

Then it's just TDM. Both teams hold their spawn sector, then there's one sector everyone fights for

[vocal tusk]

I think what annoys me the most about BF as a franchise. I show the modes have not really evolved. Take conquest for example. there is so much you could do with this mode to flesh it out to a wider audience.

For example instead of just having capture flags which score you points...have other sub-objective areas that also can be captured or interacted with (MCOM style) to grant your team an advantage. Advantages like enhanced mini-maps, ability to call in vehicles in X sector, active air radar so your air vehicles can better see others, additional vehicle reinforcements...and so on.

[vocal tusk]

Arica Harbor is setup in exactly this way and it works great.

[ebon pilot]

it's also a lot bigger

[vocal tusk]

It is not really on conquest. Its about 700M from A to C flag.

vs 680 from A to E on Haven

[ebon pilot]

That's the entirety of the map!

[vocal tusk]

As it is on Arica

Haven is also wider. 600 vs 460

[ebon pilot]

Wait that doesn't seem right. We're comparing the long end of a triangle to the length of a rectangle

[solid imp]

This was definitely a thing in BF4 with the commander benefiting from specific flags

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, it was just ignored in future games, when it really should have come built in

[solid imp]

What I really miss are commanders in BF2 having access to howitzers.. and that they can be blown up by the opposing team

It's not dependent on anything it's just an asset out in the field that you can use

[sacred umbra]

LF2 to squad up for causual play

[tawny carbon]

Commander worked very well with the theme and pace that BF4 have.

[vocal tusk]

Older commander positions being a physical think in map space was also so much better.

[tawny carbon]

!!LFG

[vocal tusk]

I miss more parts of the game being built into the maps being a thing. Liek every map having airfield/air craft carriers, ETC...and proper home bases, not just a "spawn"

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[solid imp]

yeah a place where a plane could go quickly repair/rearm just by buzzing the strip

or tanks same thing by going back

[sacred umbra]

invite to server sent

[vocal tusk]

Or in BF3 there being a no fly zone near enemy bases due to the auto AA

[solid imp]

YES

[vocal tusk]

It added a lot more to the air combat

[tawny carbon]

No thank you. Go ask in the LFGs

[vocal tusk]

I get that its easier to just spawn players in an already flying jet...its just much more lame also

TBH...I also hope the next game brings back the vehicle specific classes like BF1 had. Set loadouts you spawn with then hopping in a vehicle. I lived that part of the game.

[solid imp]

Why isn't this everywhere?? 🙂

[vocal tusk]

IS that an edited image?

[solid imp]

lol yes of course

[vocal tusk]

lol, I was wondering.

[solid imp]

imagine though... more pantsir r2d2 dome heads especially on BT

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, haven has it...but there is next to no reason to use them cos its just 1 nightbird per side.

[solid imp]

not pantsir

what am I thinking of

[tawny carbon]

We have plenty of AA in the game. We don’t need more

[solid imp]

phalanx?

[vocal tusk]

This is discussion of home base design of past games.

[tawny carbon]

It’s nonstop spam

[vocal tusk]

The issue with air in this game, is there being no decent set down zones for repairing ion a lot of the maps.

[solid imp]

Well the other answer is the one they went with... remove gunships from attackers on BT

[vocal tusk]

Like in BF4 there were a lot of places you could go that only are reachable by jets, or other helis.

[solid imp]

However those places were generally far away from the action right?

Whereas on Renewal when the attackers had a Condor, they could just dip behind the great wall and be immune until flares recharge and they're meters from the base they're attacking

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, but you went there after winning for example a heli to heli fight...to have your gunner, or you fast repair...and get you back in teh action

[tawny carbon]

I get that yea

[ashen siren]

BF1 had places only accessable for aircraft to fly/repair. It was a good system that promoted fairness to both infantry and pilots

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, it was decent too

[tawny carbon]

Be a real G and land your plane middle of the battlefield

To repair it

[vocal tusk]

BF1 also had the specific vehicle classes. I loved it...like you have to bail out and it actually felt like a fight for your life...cos you dont have amazing weapons...but you have the tools to do some damage.

Instead of...bail out...back to your scheduled infantry combat...that vehicle death measn nothing to you or your team

[solid imp]

Actually.. I wasn't a bit fan of BF1 but that was one really great idea. It did promote focusing on being good at that vehicle

[ashen siren]

They got so much right with BF1, and it was pretty much down-hill from there

[vocal tusk]

There was just no need for a lot of the stuff that annoyed players in BFV...like attrition for example. I didnt mind it...but it was just something noone was asking for

[tawny carbon]

Shush it’s “community’s favorite”

[vocal tusk]

Liek I said, I didnt really care either way. But it was clearly an unnecessary point of contention

I enjoyed BFV in the beginning. Ill always love the battle of narvik map.

[tawny carbon]

BFV was fun at the beginning. The they fucked it up hardcore. It’s boring 🥱 and lame now

3 TTK changes made me leave the game for good. Gameplay felt like cod more than battlefield to me also

[vocal tusk]

I played it recently and it for sure doesnt feel like the game I used to play.

[tawny carbon]

Launch was fun. After that it went downhill drastically from there for me.

[junior galleon]

i played the beta and noped out until 2021 so i didnt experience the shitshow

[stone cradle]

Narvik soundtrack

https://open.spotify.com/track/7kyyLfqg53lbT7XQUMhppP?si=HAatqJMvRZumOkbVpCFSXw

[gilded goblet]

bueaty

the legacy theme is banger aswell

[stone cradle]

Absolutely

BF1 and BFV's tracks are the best among the series imo

[gilded goblet]

yes sir

BF 4 warsaw nice aswell

aslo BF 3 solomans theme is banger

[stone cradle]

I hope the next BF has a good one too

Maybe bring back Johan and Patrick

Or even the ones for the BF4 and 3 stuff

[gilded goblet]

ye!

[next onyx]

Im glad they rectified ammo attrition.

Health attrition was still a load of bullshit.

Game flowed well thankfully.

[azure rampart]

bf5 did tanks well im totally not biased

[vocal tusk]

AK5C with wrapped supressor is pretty damn good.

[gilded goblet]

Ye

[vocal tusk]

I really liek this weapons base skin also 😄

[hybrid flint]

why does the m416 suck in this game it's always been decent 😦

[vocal tusk]

Crawford looking well

[quaint vector]

When it has no skin, you don't call it base skin..

[vocal tusk]

Maybe YOU dont!!! 😛

[arctic grove]

what day do the weeklies reset?

[vocal tusk]

I do hope the change the zoom on the SRAW tho...its WAY too zoomed in what the heck!

Weeklies reset every Tuesday at 12PM CET IIRC

[arctic grove]

ah thank you. I still need all the team revives on this weeks though. I need that, take downs, and one more icant remember off the top of my head

[vocal tusk]

As long as you do the bonus mission...you can complete the other missions at anytime throughout the season. So dont stress

Only the bonus needs to be done in the week its from.

[arctic grove]

yeah i got the bonus done without even trying when playing as sundance lol

Usually i play portal when im playing on my ally at work. going to have to find some people eventually to run with though. ill try lfg later when im actually going to play

[drowsy shuttle]

90% of the factory skins are better than premiums

[vocal tusk]

IMO, the ticket increase did help a bit with how Haven plays...but it still favors the RU side I feel.

Maybe im just gettign better teams when im on the RU team tho. Hard to tell 😄

[remote kiln]

yeah it won't change unless they adjust the flags

[ebon pilot]

it still feels pretty 50/50 to me

a lot of games I play the US side dominates, sometimes the RU side does

[vocal tusk]

I just find it next to impossible to escape a US spawn camp.

Still think adding pondhawks is one solution to this issue

[ebon pilot]

Yes there should be transports. Or at least light world vehicles like trucks

Very difficult to break a spawn trap on either side

[vocal tusk]

RU side is pretty easy, cos you have OOB cover on the B side

[ebon pilot]

There's often people sitting in the buildings on B side waiting for you to show your face over the hill

[vocal tusk]

True, but a decent smoke push can get you though

Cos they cant occupy the area to your right as you approach B

While on US side you have to run here to get to D...and its all just open with little cover from elevated positions. With nothing but a lake on your right.

While the RU approach to D has heavy cover

[ebon pilot]

that also means the defense at D has heavy cover too

[vocal tusk]

D ironically has little to no cover for defence

I wish D flag capture area at least included this truck and building for some much needed hard cover. Woudl also help the US side, wo I think are disadvantaged in approach to this area re-capture and defend it

But id also love if it came back to cover the rear area beside the lithium pools. That way you wouldnt need to stand in stand in view of Defenders from the town side, and those defenders would need to engage on the capture area to actually defend

D is just criminally small compared to its opposing flag at B

Maybe it actually isnt, but the difference in areas you can fight and/or defend from is very different.

[vagrant saffron]

How about adding quadbikes?

[vocal tusk]

This bin is humorously the best place to cap D flag from 😄

[slate meadow]

why did they get rid of three c4?

i cant solo kill tanks as sundance now

[remote kiln]

thats the point lol

[vocal tusk]

You can, just use a bit of skill and place the charges on the rear

But yes, that was the intention of that change. To stop assault players rushing vehicles for EZ kills with their high mobility

[slate meadow]

all they have ever done is nerf sundance so hard

[vocal tusk]

Its ALMOST like they have massive regret over adding them and Mackay to the game

[slate meadow]

yeah

almost like they should have just done traditional soldiers from the get go

[next onyx]

They could have made it so that Mackay and Sundance can't use gadgets for 5 seconds after disengaging.

It's cucked me who uses zain.

[slate meadow]

it wasnt exactly easy to kill tanks with sundance

you still had to time everything well

[vocal tusk]

Easier than with any other class tho.

[azure rampart]

i never had much trouble with assaults

[slate meadow]

and a decent tank player could always out pace you if they spotted you

[azure rampart]

just stay aware lol

[slate meadow]

but yeah why dont they just take all skills away at this point

[next onyx]

Mackay tank grapples got increasingly difficult as time went on.

[slate meadow]

yep

[next onyx]

To the point where it's kinda on you for that. Sundance was the main issue they should have focused on.

[vocal tusk]

Compared to an actual anti-vehicle class and how they have to deal with vehicles, it didnt really tho.

[slate meadow]

they deffo changed how sundances suit worked

[next onyx]

I don't even think it made sense for recon anyway as their spotting gadgets are more powerful.

[slate meadow]

i use to be able to activate it from very small hights

and now i cant

[next onyx]

My honest true concern with this change is that now you have more armour shitstains existing.

[slate meadow]

yeah everyone is running body armour now

camping in a stairwell

[drowsy shuttle]

I use the SPH

[slate meadow]

with body armour on and a shotty or smg

[vocal tusk]

Well armor is terrible in this game, so maybe the average player will try to use them now that 3/4 of the classes cant rush kill you with C5. 😄

[pine roost]

I always just used smokes from the get go, too useful to pass up

[azure rampart]

i barely if ever use the assualt gadget

i treat the scar gl as its own

[drowsy shuttle]

Sph is pretty fun.. its almost like the explosive arrows on the ghostmakwr

[slate meadow]

did they nerf the scar?

[next onyx]

No.

[drowsy shuttle]

No

[slate meadow]

deffo feels like it hits weaker than before

[vocal tusk]

Yes

[azure rampart]

i love the scar so much

[vocal tusk]

It does 26 damage now, instead of 28

[slate meadow]

is it dmg or ROF they changed?

[next onyx]

All the assault rifles got nerfed. Not exclusive to the scar.

[vocal tusk]

But it did get nerfed

[slate meadow]

when was that nerf done this season?

[vocal tusk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[next onyx]

Armour allowing you to survive one extra shot by the way is huge.

People don't realise how good that is.

Pre nerf m16 was great because it disregarded armour.

[vocal tusk]

Armor is BS...I really hate that they spent so much time on its mechanics. terrifies me to think that they might try to keep it for the next game. Its fine for a BR where all soldiers can use it/its a resource...but it doesnt belong in a main title IMO

[drowsy shuttle]

I highly doubt all the changes they did to the weapons are working properly... just like some weapons/sights have bugged visual recoil.. probably some nerfs/buffs are also bugged or not in effect

[azure rampart]

eh seems too occasional in the grand scheme of things

[next onyx]

Using the m16 is disregard armour?

[azure rampart]

armor in general

[next onyx]

I unfortunately encounter it all the time and it fucks up gunfights.

[drowsy shuttle]

I've been saying this for months... but some smart minds said "skill issue" lol what else is new on this channel tho

[vocal tusk]

It doesnt belong in a skill based FPS whre not all people can use it

[drowsy shuttle]

Yep. Really annoying some scrub surviving because of that bs... but oh well

[next onyx]

The same people who say armour doesn't make a difference are the same people that complain their easy mode weapon gets nerfed.

Nvm control recoil.

[drowsy shuttle]

100 %

[azure rampart]

what are the easy mode weapons now? i havent played in a while lol

[next onyx]

Vhx, pp29.

Off the top of my head.

[azure rampart]

i see

[vocal tusk]

AK5C with CC ammo and wrapped suppressor lol

[next onyx]

Ak5c is fine.

It kills slower than your average weapon. Close combat could use a little less range but overall not a bad gun.

[vocal tusk]

CC makes it decent at range and up close thanks to the ROF boost...then the wrapped suppressor not terribly affecting your range, plus keeping you off the mini inside 15m is great

It also feels nice to use, which is something I need lol.

[ebon pilot]

battle of the ages

[molten needle]

anyone looing to squad up

[vocal tusk]

So many with 0 captures

Why is the scoreboard opacity so scuffed at the end of round?

[next onyx]

I like the 5c because of its super consistent damage model.

[ebon pilot]

because all the players are "dead"

dead players are less opaque than live players

[arctic grove]

ok

[next onyx]

It's a balanced gun that gets devoured by submachine guns and close ranged assault rifles in of course close range.

When they fix Kobra I'm going to go back to m16 main.

[vocal tusk]

*If

[next onyx]

I know they will fix it.

[arctic grove]

bro i want to get hitman world of assassination sht is off rn for $28 or sum but was $12 on spring i just missed 😭

[next onyx]

Just portal stuff is fucky.

[azure rampart]

never bothered with portal guns except for the gol

[molten needle]

anyone trying to group up?

[azure rampart]

always felt they were very underpowered

[next onyx]

Some were.

They occupied niches that kinda didn't need to be filled.

But things like the m16, xm8 lmg and p90 fit in very nicely.

[calm bison]

I’m still waiting for my M98B

[next onyx]

P90 is literally superior over drum mag mp9.

Xm8 lmg is an avancys with a drug mag allowing faster reloads.

[azure rampart]

i just play assault rifles and very rarely smgs or lmgs

[next onyx]

M16 works as a more ranged m5a3.

[arctic grove]

m5a3 on top y'all trippin

[azure rampart]

i have more fun with the scar or the rm

[next onyx]

The m5 is good but it isn't the only good gun.

[full burrow]

bit late to the topic but I think armour is fine, I mean if they have armour they dont have c5 right soooo

[azure rampart]

specially after the thermals were added

[next onyx]

Am40 and vhx eats everything alive close range.

[vocal tusk]

Armor existing breaks gunplay, I wont change my mind there.

[next onyx]

Scar and the rm have more consistent damage models at a range.

[vocal tusk]

It totally fucks up player muscle memory

[azure rampart]

yeah i dont really like close fights

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind it if armour shut down explosive damage.

That would make sense.

Give them 50 armour and it only protects from explosive damage.

[azure rampart]

doesnt it already negate the 1 shot ntw or was that changed?

[next onyx]

Yea changed.

[azure rampart]

thats a new one

[next onyx]

Ntw does 120 damage within 100 metres.

[vocal tusk]

I also REALLY hate how the Brawler can take close defense system and APS at the same time...AND has resistance to C5 and mines. IMO this vehicle should need to choose between close defense and APS.

[arctic grove]

thermal view gun is fkn cheat

[vocal tusk]

They make the game too easy, I just never used them.

[merry crypt]

Is there a delay between getting revived and getting hit with a throwing knife?

[arctic grove]

yh idk what guns has that also dont wanna knw anyway

[vocal tusk]

Most of the non portal weapons have those scopes IIRC

[azure rampart]

find it a bit weird how i dont usually see them that much

[next onyx]

The thermal reticles feel weird.

I don't like how they sway.

I had the 2.5x on my scar for ranged engagements but it just felt bad.

[robust vapor]

HappyD0kNoises

[calm bison]

Congratulations

You got a gun

[robust vapor]

DeadD0kNoiseless

[calm bison]

Yikes

[robust vapor]

I was sniping all the way until I simultaneously T1ed Gol Magnum and unlocked AK5C at the same time

Now I don't have to sniep anymore

Fuck sniping

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, you mean the thick chevron?

[azure rampart]

I wish it was a bit thinner

[vocal tusk]

I mean, I guess they deliberately make it not as good so as they don't have multiple advantages.

[next onyx]

No they have issues as they're glued to the scope.

I don't care about the 1.25x.

The 2.5x has issues.

[ebon pilot]

fr fr

[robust vapor]

Pls no new sniper in Season 8

[azure rampart]

Eh fairs

[arctic grove]

gooseass ppl snipe

i mean it's fine to snipe if u have 2,3 disabilities though

[raw matrix]

Anyone know when the stealth bomber is coming?

[quaint vector]

Its supposed to be May in the Update 7.2

[gilded goblet]

[gilded goblet]

id like it

[arctic grove]

is that new specialist?

[remote kiln]

no new specialists are being added anymore

they stopped after season 5

[ivory canopy]

I had one of those moments once

I'd share but I have no image perms. Besides, some of what he said is pretty bad.

[torpid rune]

Can I T1 a Specialist in a Portal server? I'm trying to T1 Zain but he's a complete pain in the ass in the main servers.

[remote kiln]

yes

[torpid rune]

@remote kiln past Mastery 12? I know if I go in a lobby by myself that's all I can get up to, but if there's other players I can go beyond that or?

[arctic grove]

BFV is definitely the worst BF ever. People hating on 2042 and then suck off Trashfield V like what??? 😂👍

[remote kiln]

portal servers have a daily xp cap for restricted servers, you can get up to xyz per day, theres no restriction on mastery acquisition though

just beware your xp gain is halved

[torpid rune]

Ah okay great. Thank you!

[remote kiln]

for guidance

[torpid rune]

Great

[gilded goblet]

god danm

skill issue for him

[next onyx]

Bf5 had way less issues than this damn game that's for sure.

[remote kiln]

https://fxtwitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1772413737405673835 cc

[hybrid flint]

i feel like rocket launchers are worthless in this game

they don't do nearly enough damage

[remote kiln]

they do lol

[copper fulcrum]

They each do about 27 damage and can reach far distances. That's good enough lol

Considering the player count as well, that's more than good enough

[remote kiln]

nooo they should 1 shot vehicles they too op

[vital quail]

Rpg does 35

[kindred flint]

these fucking dogshit snipers who sit in the spawn on the US side.....why do they do it

[ashen siren]

It's a sniper-fest, and not in any shape enjoyable to play.

[kindred flint]

i mean i joined the match RU 700-500, and we won handily...but holy shit so many scope glints just sitting in the back while they only have a... and we wonder why matches just devolve into the US team only having a so often

[ashen siren]

The whole thing is an untested shambles tbh. Nothing was throught through properly from the get-go, and it really shows. It's just sniper-alley, that's a frustrating chore to play, with no flow, and completely one-sided domination. I've got zero interest in playing it (like most other maps too tbh).

[spiral ibex]

why am i just stuck looking at the flooor

[lean temple]

mmmm i don't think i care for haven conquest. every match has been almost completely one-sided and very short.

haven breakthrough was a fair bit more enjoyable, but I still didn't really care for it.

[spiral ibex]

update, a glitch from 2/3 years ago is still here

[tropic tree]

Hello

[ashen siren]

Haven's utter garbage, and would honestly rather it doesn't exist

[shy viper]

the visual recoil changes make me not want to play, DICE should revert those changes entirely

[ashen siren]

I used to play 2-3hrs most evenings, then Season 7 dropped...since then it's actually stopped me playing, such as the utter shitness it's brought to an already pretty poor game

[shy viper]

I was like that too

[kindred flint]

just do your missions each week then barely play

[shy viper]

I will skip the do your missions part

[kindred flint]

i played for like 12 mins maybe...quit the game

[shy viper]

before that asinine change I quite liked the game

[kindred flint]

why are the subsonic rounds on the new smg so fun though

[ashen siren]

Knowing that a new BF won't be coming out til late next year, there's zero chance I'll be persisiting with 2042. I'm currently looking at sim-rigs to fill that void in my gaming life, haha!

[shy viper]

the other fps I play lots is Destiny 2 so unfortunately I have been going back to that

[royal swan]

Honestly I can't even notice the visual recoil

[shy viper]

pvp is about as abysmal there as well

[spiral ibex]

ong

[shy viper]

at least there is no chance my camera will start free spinning when i shoot and mouse inputs are not dropped when I'm trying to control recoil in Destiny 2

[royal swan]

Yeah I don't notice any of that

[spiral ibex]

i don't think there's a single, like really good fps out rn, most of them have a lot of problems

[ashen siren]

I genuinely fear that come late next year with the new game, nobody's going to care anymore and BF will be finished. Hope not, but they've given us no incentive to continue playing...only pushed more people away from the game

[shy viper]

yeah fps is in a rough state in 2024, especially for mnk outside of CS and Val

[lean temple]

drone not being able to hack-destroy light placeables anymore feels bad

[spiral ibex]

game's in general tbh

[shy viper]

Osu is the videogame promise land

[spiral ibex]

at least we going mildly uphill rn with casual games like lethal or helldivers

[shy viper]

any of the modes

[spiral ibex]

but in terms of pvp... no.

[shy viper]

when I pick up a sign Lethal Company becomes a pvp game

😈

[spiral ibex]

AMEN

[ashen siren]

FPS are all terrible for the forseeable future, so I've made the decision to move away (reluctantly), and put my full focus into sim-racing. It's a maturely-evolved thing that's only going to get better, not worse (unlike BF).

[spiral ibex]

we can only hope that a small studio starts working on a fps rn, or that one cod clone comes out

[spiral ibex]

the clone ubi was working on

[shy viper]

I wish I could play Halo Infinite but the mouse has controller type aim assist which I do not want on my mnk fps

[royal swan]

I'm going safe and putting money on indie games mainly

No trust in anything triple A, bf is on its last chance to be better than 2042

[spiral ibex]

yup, only AAA game i've bought recently was tekken

[ashen siren]

Exactly right!

[spiral ibex]

and helldivers if that even counts

[ashen siren]

I reckon BF is going to struggle with player-retention to get them through til the next game. Season 7 might end up being the thing that killed any last chance of this series existing.

[worthy inlet]

I’ve stopped playing fps for years now and been going through the yakuza series

Well, a year as I quit destiny last year

[ashen siren]

There's so many people complaining and walking away from the game rn, it's hard to see any future in what was once a kickass series. 1.5yrs is a long time to expect patience and loyalty from a fanbase you've consistently screwed over and gaslit.

[spiral ibex]

i've heard that the newest yakuza game has horrible microtransactions, god i hope that game doesn't get ruined by greed too

[worthy inlet]

Not played it I’m still 3 games behind lol

[royal swan]

The most fps game I been playing and enjoying is DRG

Love that game

[worthy inlet]

Destiny is almost good

It’s a pity they’ve shit the bed so damn hard with it last year

[royal swan]

I only played destiny 1

Never touching destiny 2

[worthy inlet]

Good call

[royal trail]

we need a pc port of destiny 1

[worthy inlet]

Imo it’s only good if you have an active group AND you started at D2 launch

[spiral ibex]

i feel like the game is not good in that case

[worthy inlet]

Yes

[spiral ibex]

cause u can play almost any game with friends and have a good time

[worthy inlet]

It’s almost good

[spiral ibex]

if you can't even do that, then u know it's absolute dog

[worthy inlet]

It was very good year before last

But then lightfall happened

[spiral ibex]

when a good game goes bad sadge

[royal trail]

destiny 1 pc with raytracing when?

[worthy inlet]

Me when battlefield

Not been good since bf1 for me

[spiral ibex]

honestly every game in BF started off horrible and then slowly became good, in the case of bf1 and bf5, they even became fan favs after it died

but i feel like bf2042 bout to break that cycle

[worthy inlet]

I had some fun in the beta for bfv and a month after 2042 launch but that’s it

[ashen siren]

The issue is 2042 is getting worse, not better. It's not even fun to play, and is one endless grind of nothing...hardly enticing to play

[spiral ibex]

gotta love all the unique weapons in the game

those include

smgs that feel the same, Ars that feel the same, Snipers that mostly feel the same, lmgs that mostly seem the same, and a crossbow

[royal trail]

eh i still enjoy bf2042. even if its not perfect

[worthy inlet]

Did 2042 add weapons etc that you unlock via assignments like bf1?

[royal swan]

Called vault weapons and season weapons when you didn't unlock them from the bp

[stable sail]

Bring back fking Rush holy shit

How hard is it to keep it as a game mode

[ashen siren]

There's so little variety of weapons in each category, they're much the same. Vault weapons are more enjoyable to play with and offer more unique experiences

[worthy inlet]

Bfv had the 1906 which was my baby but that’s really all that game had

[spiral ibex]

if u didn't unlock a weapon in the season it gave u some tasks to unlock it later, but aside from that no

[ashen siren]

Avtomat Optical in BF1...that thing was a beast

[remote kiln]

just use a monitor crosshair lol

[worthy inlet]

That one was okay

[royal swan]

Oh yeah, I need to find out if my monitor has one

[worthy inlet]

I was absolutely a 1906 factory and Farquhar hill optical man though

[spiral ibex]

for what vault weapons are, they feel way too similar to default weapons, all they really are usually is just much less attachements and higher recoil/damage

[worthy inlet]

Just put a piece of bluetack on the screen

[ashen siren]

Oh the Farquhar had such a chungus-hit on targets, that was great to play with!!

[spiral ibex]

simply just write with sharpie on ur monitor

[ashen siren]

2042 is such a below-average game, which given the past experiences/development work they've had to draw from in previous titles, is mind-blowingly bad.

[spiral ibex]

it was just too many ideas

and little time

[royal swan]

It was inevitable

[worthy inlet]

The worst thing in 2042 is they removed the hovercraft climbing skyscrapers

[royal swan]

2042 was never going to be good from the start

It was impossible

[spiral ibex]

and then the ones in charge forced the game to be released early cause MONEY

[ashen siren]

It's like they had an ideas vomit and nobody decided to say "that's enough". Nothing has been implemented properly whatsoever

[stable sail]

Kinetic or Volley pod

[spiral ibex]

honestly i feel like bf2042's systems would really fit in a br which it was originally supposed to be

it might actually even be fun

[shy viper]

no, I will instead not play and complain until visual recoil is in an acceptable state

[remote kiln]

[spiral ibex]

can someone quickly just explain to me what visual recoil he's talking about?

[ashen siren]

If they cannot even respect their customer to provide a half-decent experience, why should we use their product?

[worthy inlet]

Just bring back bullet deviation from bf1

[spiral ibex]

cause idk why but i don't even remotely feel a difference between this and last season

[remote kiln]

no fuck bullet deviation

anything that isnt visual is a bad mechanic

[stable sail]

bullet bloom is cancer lol

[spiral ibex]

god bullet bloom is horrible

[worthy inlet]

I’m aware it’s a hot take which is why I love saying it

[remote kiln]

the guns got a animation overhaul to add visual recoil to them which means they kick with continuous fire

[spiral ibex]

so it's just a mf skill issue these people having

understood

[remote kiln]

no

it adjusts the centre point of crosshair, even if it doesnt affect your actual bullets, it causes players to go off centre

visual recoil is a bad mechanic masquerading as balance, but people are coping

[shy viper]

bloom is bad