battlefield-2042

[ebon pilot]

i also work in programming land i don't think it's complicated at all

[vocal tusk]

Obviously no, but I work in design and animation. More states multiply cost and complexity

[ebon pilot]

unless those states are actually distinct from the weapons themselves

which is what i would've done as a programmer

[amber kelp]

once the tac sprint system exists, it doesnt have to be remade. Theres new values to tweak when balancing it but thats not too much of an issue. It does add a new required animation

[chilly jacinth]

bf5 has more animation complexity than this game

[vocal tusk]

Many more yes

[stone cradle]

Give me my tactical roll and crouch sprint back

[vocal tusk]

Crouch sprint is a nice utility, yeah.

A bit unnecessary given the maps of 2042 tho.

But for next game, it would be good to have.

[next onyx]

Crouch sprint was amazing.

Nvm tactical rolls.

since they had an actual use, Being it would minimise fall damage.

Which got very annoying.

[amber kelp]

tac roll us just a cleaner way to do the "parachute just before you hit the ground" thing. Its neat

[next onyx]

Silent parachute basically heh.

[ionic gale]

well you could avoid that by just being lenient with fall damage, like it was at release. Now you just get 10 damage whenever

[ebon pilot]

sometimes it feels like i'm the only one really trying to fight air vehicles in this game

[naive magnet]

Are you me

[ebon pilot]

are you also pulling off sick rocket launcher kills like the clips above?

[vocal tusk]

Most of the time air vehicles barely affect me tbh. I'll only swap to AA if they actually start affecting me,my squad or my team. Outside of that my concentration is flag capturing, defending and keeping my squad alive.

[ebon pilot]

On Orbital it's really helpful to hold A since you can jump from it to B sites. But because it's a roof there's a constant barrage of air vehicles trying to kill everyone on it

most of the people standing on it have zero situational awareness to recognize that vehicles are attacking it

[safe palm]

Just like c on shanghai

[uneven ibex]

Posted

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[mental delta]

Hope next game features this map has legacy content or shit like this

[kindred flint]

what....something that gets giga focused in the first 2 mins of a match?

ive forgotten since havent played this year...did they already nerf guns, or is that stuff all coming in 7.0?

[mental delta]

They're adding visual recoil which basically modifies how most guns "behave" when you're using those

It's a good addition imo and I really want to see where it leads

Even though I don't get the point of adding such a game-changing feature 2 years after the game launched

[kindred flint]

data for the next game

jk dice doesnt use data from their previous game...instead spends over a year balancing shit that should have been sorted out in the alpha/beta tests

[ebon pilot]

it's not even a game changer

it's an animation tweak

[vocal tusk]

There being another 1.5-2 years to the next BF game seems like a decent reason

[mental delta]

Yes someone said that but idk lol, I just think they'll make a whole new game that doesn't really reuse anything that has been done in BF2042

[vocal tusk]

At least next game won't be held back by last gen console.

Not that this is an excuse for a sub par game. (2042 at launch)

[mental delta]

Hahaha yes but the fact next game releases in late 2025 doesn't mean BF2042 is gonna be supported so far, if I could take a guess I'd say season 8 is the last one and it's gonna be longer than usual with maybe a few additionnal quanityt of content if they're cool

[vocal tusk]

I also assume S7/8 will be the last. But it's better to leave the game in a good state imo.

[mental delta]

BF2042 problems at launch were far from only being that game was held back by last gen yes lol, game was just unfinished and lacked content

[mental delta]

Season 7 is,'t gonna be the last one imo, they would have probably told us otherwise, it seems like they're going all for one to end of support with season 8, maybe with a map remake from a previous game ?

[round rose]

is devolping very complicated?

i need a backup career and it sounds fun and interesting

[unborn herald]

how is it after 2 years and half this game still has annoying bugs

it doesnt let me in modes sometimes

[vocal tusk]

Every game will always have bugs. This is why

[unborn herald]

and the texture loading oh god

its still there

its so slow

[vocal tusk]

Get an ssd

[mental delta]

Yes it got more complex over the years due to player's expectations being more important I guess and due to the fact standards in terms of graphics, playability (and realism sometimes) increased

[unborn herald]

its on ssd

m.2 even

[fickle wharf]

works on my machine

[unborn herald]

theres a map where it wont load quickly

i forgot the name but it has snow

[ebon pilot]

M.2 describes form factor, what's the bus interface? NVMe or SATA?

[round rose]

which side do you think got the most complex the graphical standpoint or the actual programming

[unborn herald]

yeah shouldve been clear, nvme.

sorry

[vocal tusk]

Both. Neither works without the other

[unborn herald]

yeah the map name is reclaimed

when i load in

the ground isnt even loaded

it keeps telling me to parachute

[round rose]

where would you even go to learn these things

[ebon pilot]

the internet

[round rose]

is it all locked behind a college class

[kindred flint]

did they fix the falling into the ground bug?

[mental delta]

Both, at least for games like Battlefield because you know programming a game with that many players and with such levels of destruction might be hard, but they got the ressources to make good games they just take incredibly bad decisions

[unborn herald]

reclaimed map?

[kindred flint]

was that the only one it happened on?

[vocal tusk]

C++ courses, college, online tutorials

[unborn herald]

yep

[vocal tusk]

Then just practice

[round rose]

where did you learn through

[unborn herald]

it takes a while to load

[vocal tusk]

I'm not a programmer

[ebon pilot]

I'm a programmer

I learned on my own since I dropped out of college

[unborn herald]

damn even worse i pre ordered this game

[round rose]

is it a fun thing to do or is it stress inducing or maybe like a good mix for the outcome

[ebon pilot]

I think programming is fun. It's the weekend and I'm working on my own personal project right now

[vocal tusk]

Could equally be a hardware issue if you have a fast enough ssd. Perhaps gpu or driver issues. Do you use AMD Radeon by any chance?

[ebon pilot]

When you combine programming with super tight deadlines it can become stress inducing

But when you do it without deadlines to learn and experiment with ideas I think it's a lot of fun

[round rose]

Sounds fun to work at your own pace

Whats your personal project about

like if you could describe it to me

at least the end goal so far

[ebon pilot]

My personal project is an implementation of a data format called Cap'n Proto. My goal is to make the best Cap'n Proto implementation there ever was.

[mental delta]

What's a Cap'n Proto though

[round rose]

sounds like a rework of a program is that kinda what its like

[ebon pilot]

It's a serialization protocol. Essentially a way of structuring data in a standard way. Different programming languages and CPUs have different ways of representing data that are mostly incompatible with each other. With a serialization protocol you can describe data in a special way that can be used by any language to "serialize" data in a way that other code that can understand Cap'n Proto format can "deserialize".

[ebon pilot]

Kinda. It's more of a piece of a program, not a program itself.

[round rose]

that sounds interesting so its strongpoint is that most cpus can read it?

[ebon pilot]

Technically any CPU can read it. You just have to write code to convert the data from the Cap'n Proto format to the native format. That's what my code does!

[fossil dock]

Aight time to chose the next AR to T1. Which one of these do you enjoy and recommend? I primarily use it mid range.

• M5
• Gew
• RM68
• ACW-R

[ebon pilot]

RM68

[mental delta]

Looks interesting but too hard for me to understand lol, good luck with your project dude

[ebon pilot]

thanks i've been working on it for 4 years

[mental delta]

[mental delta]

And you're close to end or not really ?

[ebon pilot]

i'm close to a specific milestone

[mental delta]

That's good enough

That progresses

[ebon pilot]

note: i've been basically working on and off on it for 4 years, but most of the progress happened in the last 2

[mental delta]

Well that looks good

[ebon pilot]

i've been experimenting with a lot of different ideas for improvements. some of them worked, some of them didn't. it's also a side-project, so i really only get to work on it on weekends

or "vacation"

[mental delta]

You look dedicated to it which is probably the most important

[unborn herald]

does anyone have any other solution for the bug where you join a mode then it pretends it’s loading through a black screen then it returns you to the main menu

restarting my game is annoying af

[oak sedge]

I just thought about this right now, do we know if Season 7 launches with both Haven and Stadium?

[unborn herald]

both

[oak sedge]

cool

it's just the stealth bomber that won't be at launch then

[unborn herald]

no way it won’t be at launch lmao

[oak sedge]

they already said that it won't be in until update 7.2

it's in the fine print at the end of the trailer

[unborn herald]

that’s stupid

[kindred flint]

uhh didnt they say stadium would be later?

[unborn herald]

never seen that

[oak sedge]

i don't know, they didn't say anything in the trailer

[kindred flint]

Stadium - Arriving later in Season 7

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-7-0-0

[oak sedge]

welp not even surprised

[unborn herald]

well

[kindred flint]

[unborn herald]

first time for everything

[kindred flint]

i mean youve already played the map so not going to be new or interesting

but we gotta drip feed that content

[unborn herald]

genuinely think more devs are being moved to work on the next game

[kindred flint]

whaaaaaat?

[patent path]

why bother thinking, it's true

that's how game development works

[kindred flint]

why do you think s6 was the longest one yet

[remote axle]

Hi, anyone have this error launching the game? "There is a problem with your game configuration. please reinstall it" i cant play, i already have all my drivers, direct x, vc redist, etc updated and steam verified files

[patent path]

have you tried reinstalling the game

[remote axle]

yeah, two times

i have W11 full updated, and nvidia to

[mental delta]

They were probably reorganizing their teams to send some devs on next game or they began progressing on season 8's map so they can send devs to next game once they're done making season 8

[patent path]

uninstall the game and the EA app then reinstall maybe?

[remote axle]

I did it too, I play BF V too and I don't have any problems

[mystic current]

Does the Impact crosshair on Nightbird's 20mm shows correctly?

I find it that my bullets follow the static crosshair quite accurate

[ivory canopy]

BF2042 is $9 USD online rn

[stone cradle]

You don't say..

[shy bronze]

#release seaosn 7 early

[naive quiver]

Soon

[still vault]

Releasing early would mean delighting like half the community and pissing off the other half. Also, might not be the best timing with most people having the weekend off at DICE. You should never release friday-sunday if you can avoid it 😄

[naive quiver]

So why is it always Tuesday? What’s special meaning does this day have for dice?

[still vault]

You use monday to plan everything, tuesday it is

[naive quiver]

you can use Friday to plan everything, then Monday it is

[still vault]

lots of things can happen during a weekend

[naive quiver]

for example

[still vault]

people could get sick, or pregnant, or both

[naive quiver]

Maybe they had too much fun over the weekend and can't come on Monday.

[still vault]

Also, planning everything just the day before makes it fresh in the memory

[tidal trail]

Rockstar exclusively releases content on a Tuesday as well

Gta v was released on a Tuesday

[vocal tusk]

It's an optimal day to release. Everyone is back in work a day already, and in the event of issues surrounding release, your team has 4 full work days to work on any potential issues.

[drowsy shuttle]

So they hotfix whatever they going to break with the update during the rest of the week

[pine roost]

It’s just the 4pm trailer and note drop times perfectly coincide with my journeys back home from uni, on a train ride with no signal

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/peach-cat-irritated-pissed-mad-gif-23282004

[pine roost]

Cause it just so happens the days I go down are Tuesday and Friday…

[arctic grove]

yeah still too much for what the game's worth

[naive quiver]

$9 is a good price for battlefield 2042

[drowsy shuttle]

Yes it is

[pine roost]

You aren’t really going to get much lower than that

[tidal trail]

It'll be free from March 21 to like the 29th or something like that

[pine roost]

True

Try it out then

[tidal trail]

Then buy it if you like it

[fading hawk]

Does anyone at times find that their guns don’t actually fire? Only happens at the worst moments like 1v1 gunfights and leaves you severely disadvantaged. I’ll be clicking my left click and nothing is happening and then I die.

[pine roost]

I’ve had moments where enemies just become invincible, but so far no mouse clicks failing to register in the last year or so

[fading hawk]

Have never had this issue on call of duty for example

[fading hawk]

Probably the current 2 hit kill with headshots thing for a lot of the assault rifles which is being fixed in the 7.0 update.

[arctic grove]

Why is the. Bullet registration so wonky with a snipers, I'm.seeijg the teace of the round impact the layer but no damage was being done

[fading hawk]

Because you are playing on 45hz servers

[arctic grove]

Haven't had that specific issue but I know the mouse input in general is trash af in 2042. Huge difference from MWIII

[pine roost]

Well I doubt that’ll change me pumping 6 shots into someone and no damage being dealt

[fading hawk]

Which is essentially what BF4 used 10 years ago.

[pine roost]

But that was mostly just down to a fluctuation in server performance in that instance

[fading hawk]

I have a gigabyte connection on Ethernet with sub 10-20 ping 99% of the time and I still feel it.

[arctic grove]

Yea Like the guy is Only 150 so aiming the scope where it needs to be shot and somehow the bullet travels through him but doesn't do damage

[fading hawk]

That’s the tick rate

[arctic grove]

And There is one guy who no matter what always seems to be a le to snipe me as I spawn and go to a location like he knows where I'm going to pop up from

[fading hawk]

Still using those BF4 release servers as the technology isn’t there yet for a multi billion dollar company.

[pine roost]

Well there’s a slight difference between handling 64 players on a server compared to 128

[fading hawk]

Even on 64 player servers it’s the same

[tawny carbon]

https://x.com/sgtdangercow/status/1769084328342864061?s=46

SgtDangerCow (@SgtDangerCow) on X

Previous BFs were much more realistic

Twitter · Mar 16, 2024, 7:32 PM

[arctic grove]

This round is barely enough players half the lobby is bots.

I also need to unlock the SoFlam so I can scope in without that sniper glare that gives away my area

[fading hawk]

Still released like a pack of mouldy cheese though. Shame to see nothing has changed in a decade.

[bitter mulch]

damn but those graphics, so much better then what we have now

[cloud plover]

Is bf2042 the best bf for a new player? Or is there one that's better

[fading hawk]

It’s poopoo if you want good play BF4 or BF3

[tawny carbon]

Every game have cheese

[pine roost]

I was going to ask for context but I can’t be bothered

[cloud plover]

Ok, thanks

[tawny carbon]

Wym

[pine roost]

I just tired

[fading hawk]

Honestly it’s quite tiring.. I miss completely offline single player games you could just sink your teeth into without this live service battlepass bullshit

[tawny carbon]

Live service is meh yea

[arctic grove]

Dude I hate being on the defender side of Breakthrough, for some reason even if we are holding the position the game.allows the other team to take it

[tawny carbon]

Defender is fun

[hollow gale]

you just got bad team

[pine roost]

Having servers for singleplayer games is horrible

[dusty sparrow]

Usually either Tuesday or Thursdays

[fading hawk]

Why is it even needed unless it’s for saving data.

[pine roost]

I get why they exist, but it’s just so irritating when you can’t play some game because of server maintenance

[fading hawk]

We used to have that shit to SD cards in the front of the system and local storage.

You could carry your save data physically

[pine roost]

I know ghost recon breakpoint hit me int the face with its maintenance periods right when I was yearning to play it

[tawny carbon]

Live service updates, idk

[fading hawk]

I could take my hard drive from my 360 to my friends house and use it there.

[tawny carbon]

Fax

[fading hawk]

Or the little SD card from the GameCube

[tawny carbon]

The good ol days

Or ps2 memory card

[fading hawk]

True

Just bs lol

https://tenor.com/view/angry-panda-mascot-mad-seccato-gif-18347435

[tawny carbon]

Usb flash drive was my save file/profile holder for 360

[arctic grove]

Bro we had 3 players left to kill and we still couldn't win.. I swear I'm getting put on teams with some smooth heads

[fading hawk]

And calling changes which should’ve been there on release a “turning point” is pretty funny.

[arctic grove]

Like I'm a sniper and dropping more.killls than most.my.team. .

[pine roost]

Regardless of timing, it’s still a solid update

[fading hawk]

It’s been 2 years needed

[tawny carbon]

Tru

Atleast the game is better than it was. Sad to see 128p no support gone

[fading hawk]

It was only in the game because it’s pretty obvious 2042 was a standalone BR title that was scrapped and the player count was haphazardly put into what it was on release.

[arctic grove]

I don’t see any reason it wasn’t originally a BR, I know some people still deny that claim but I feel like the maps and specialists are big give away

[fading hawk]

For sure

[arctic grove]

I also get that with a ipers headshot are the only one shot kill at long range but that kinda makes them worse than the DMar since the rate of fire is slower incannget more shots on target with the DMR and more.aucceaful kills

[fading hawk]

There are still rumours about a BR for the next battlefield as well.. it’s like “let it go ffs” you fucked it the first time.

[amber kelp]

BF would have likely attempted 128 anyway. This was by far the most requested change before it released, and the popularity of BR's and milsims made battlefield's "large battles" feel small

[arctic grove]

Honestly it being a BR makes sense as to why it was so barebones at launch, they probably just kinda rushed together something at the end. While leaving aspects of the original BR plan in it

[fading hawk]

It did release at like the height of BRs being popular hence why they probably jumped on the gravy train but butchered it.

[arctic grove]

It can only either fail to meet EAs expectations and be canned, or succeed, which also probably means it might take content primacy from the rest of the game

Since it would need at least a few BR map updates to keep people interested, plus your average sized map in a battlefield game

[fading hawk]

Rinse and repeat the last 10 years lol.

[arctic grove]

I get souch XP just from using the Spotted from though so long as my team.is getting alot of kills

[fading hawk]

Best thing that could happen is EA are bought out like Activision.

[arctic grove]

That’s why I don’t want a BR in a battlefield game. Dice showed us with 2042 how difficult it was with their circumstances to get out a decent amount of good or acceptable maps now you want to have tens of thousands of people focused on a free mode that’s eventually gonna need consistent events and content

[fading hawk]

Otherwise you are always going to have that rot

[arctic grove]

EA rally is possibly one of the worst publishers like they are the definition of low effort, the way they did anthem 2.0 was dirty.

[fading hawk]

It’s what you get when you have 60-70 year old shareholders who’s only experience of “games” is checkers and connect 4 in primary school.

[arctic grove]

[vocal tusk]

I don't even understand why EA would sanction another major IP BR game. They already have one in Apex. All that having another BR on the market does is make that game have more competition.

[fading hawk]

Like how congress is trying to argue this whole TikTok thing and they haven’t the slightest clue what they are saying.

All boomers

[arctic grove]

I could mention how involved the R&D’s are in their own corruption and spying campaigns but nah

[fading hawk]

Greed mostly

[arctic grove]

As if the problem is a fucking app

[fading hawk]

People don’t make video games out of love anymore

It’s all chasing the dollar

[fading hawk]

Doing away with origin was a sad moment.

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah I meant about TikTok but yep the ea app is weird. I’m a console player but damn I tried to make BF3 work (which it did with origin fine) and now it’s telling me I need a product key and my “pc is offline” and all sorts of craziness

[fading hawk]

I think I read something where Activisions 600 or so QA testers were voting to unionise so it shows you how bad the industry is as a whole at that level.

Was a euro gamer article

[bitter mulch]

they did tested more then 64p with bf3 but it just didnt work, the gameplay was bad and everything so they stayed with 64p

[fading hawk]

64 players on BF3? Good lord.

[amber kelp]

what they never mention in that is if those tests were on BF3 maps or custom made maps

BBR is a proof of concept for 128 and even 256

[bitter mulch]

ex dev from bf3 told that

[amber kelp]

and he never mentioned if it was on BF3 maps or custom maps

[fading hawk]

I’d like to think that the only solid FPS title right now at a core level is Valorant.

[bitter mulch]

idk about that, but still thats more then 10 years ago

[amber kelp]

its an extremely important detail. And as I said, games have pulled off 128 with little issues

[fading hawk]

Yeah but this is EA here

It’s not technologically possible to be competent enough to properly implement 128 players when you are EA

[bitter mulch]

yeah, but with BF scale i think its too much to handle

[fading hawk]

The last good title from them was NFSU2

[amber kelp]

BBR is just low poly BF

[fading hawk]

What’s BBR

[amber kelp]

battlebit

[fading hawk]

Ah that thing

Wasn’t that built using the Roblox engine?

[amber kelp]

its on unity

[fading hawk]

Explains a lot

[bitter mulch]

Well you cant compare Unity engine with Frostbite

[fading hawk]

Frostbite can be compared to a pile of doodoo at this point

[ruby citrus]

battlebit got killed by developers wanting to make battlefield and arma at the same time, and failed at both
amazing map design though, wish we had more urban maps in 2042

[amber kelp]

1. Yes I can
2. this is about game design specifically

[hoary willow]

Can anyone tell me why, 3 years after the release LAV-AD (aa tank from the portal), it is able to shoot at me literally all over the map and its range limit does not exist? How is it possible that such buggs still exist after all this time?

[fading hawk]

Looked good just with vehicles and destruction don’t know why they needed to kill it.

[amber kelp]

As I said, its a proof of concept. It shows that a 128 player game like battlefield can be fun.

[ruby citrus]

correction, wish we had AN urban map in 2042

[bitter mulch]

well tehnicaly you can, but the same thing in unity made with frostbite consoles could not handle

[ruby citrus]

they wanted to make a milsim, most of the community wanted an arcade shooter, tried to please both audiences, pleased no one in the process

[fading hawk]

Just make like an airport, a market square or something like the favélas into a map.

[arctic grove]

I feel like the problem was people shitting on it for not being a carbon copy of a Battlefield game, as well as its graphics despite the fact that it had to compensate somewhere to make 256 possible

[fading hawk]

The graphics were pretty poor tho

[amber kelp]

we already have frostbite running 128 people on console. The issue is shit map design, simple as that.
The maps are still shit on 64 players and even on TDM.

[ruby citrus]

i dont think graphics were the issue, I personally quit the game because of the milsim esque mechanics that just felt like they were there to intentionally slow down the combat and the action, like spending 8 seconds healing behind cover after getting nicked once

[arctic grove]

Yeah that’s fair enough

[amber kelp]

yeah but that was deliberate.
BBR runs extremely well with more in depth destruction and a 256 player counts. Thats why it looks like shit, thats the tradeoff

[arctic grove]

I feel like there some people who didn’t appreciate it as an indie proof of concept project, but that’s not to say there weren’t issues with it either

[ruby citrus]

once i realized that I was spending a third of my matches in a healing animation I got super bored

[amber kelp]

end of the day though it is evidence of battlefield gameplay working with this playercount, hard stop

[bitter mulch]

yeah thats true, cuz maps were first made for 64p. My point is that maps lack alot of stuff they are simple made. I dont think if they remade strike at karkand map the same as it was in BF3 and put 128p on it it would crash

[arctic grove]

If a team of a literal few people could do it what could DICE theoretically do with EAs backing

[fading hawk]

I couldn’t see the enemies before I died.. half the time.

[junior galleon]

a battlefield battle royale would probably end up being one of the worst battle royales ever

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah for sure

[amber kelp]

it already is look at firestorm

[fading hawk]

DICE do that.. but it’s released in a shocking state due to the elderly pensioner higher ups thinking that they know better than people who’ve literally studied to do the job they are doing.

[junior galleon]

lol for real

[arctic grove]

Yep and plus the core community who pretty explicitly can state what they want

but ya know how lucky people get with that

[fading hawk]

It’s what happens when you listen to the loudest voice rather than being competent and confident enough in your own abilities to produce a product.

So it ends up being someone else’s vision rather than a collective coming together as 1

The finals is a collective collaboration rather than a corporate one

And you can see what’s technologically possible

[arctic grove]

Inb4 “but everyone wants something different”

, like maybe on theme and stuff sure but damn we can all agree some stuff just should not be missing or broken

[pine roost]

Technology aside, it’s just fun

[arctic grove]

I haven’t tried the finals yet. It seems like a more comp esque game to me, I might get crucified for this but I’d personally be interested in more arcade game mode options like maybe TDM

[fading hawk]

But as a company like EA I’m sure you have to follow stupidly strict margins and completely unrealistic targets and goals to please the elderly palpatines upstairs.

Or you get the boot

Now you see why so many people have left recently and in the last few years.

Because it’s probably a completely shit environment to work in.

Games industry in general but under EAs control even more so.

DICE would need to unhinge and go solo as a company to really shine.

[arctic grove]

lol the elderly palpatines

But ye I hear ya

[mental delta]

https://tenor.com/view/cackles-star-wars-sheev-palpatine-gif-15366449

[arctic grove]

I should probably try sniping in conquest, instead of brwakthrough

Idk though this game just doesn't feel as good as BF4

[arctic grove]

Breakthrough is a lot more linear so yea

[acoustic seal]

EA doesn't make the day-to-day balance decisions, i'm so tired of people blaming them for dice dice-ing their own games

EA didn't tell them to implement bf5 5.2

[junior galleon]

lol yeah so tired of this misconception

something bad happens? EA!

[acoustic seal]

EA didn't design the maps

[junior galleon]

happens to all big publishers

[fading hawk]

No but its up to the publisher and the rightsholders of the franchise to make those decisions which in this term is EA.

DICE are under EAs watch they arent solo developers... im sure they have some say in it but ultimately its up to the people in the corporate seats to make the final decisions.

[remote kiln]

if DICE was a solo company they would be bankrupt lol

[acoustic seal]

corporate isnt breathing down their neck to implement visual recoil or IRMs

[remote kiln]

it's a good idea if you want battlefield to cease entirely as a franchise

[acoustic seal]

you cant blame EA for everything all the time

[fading hawk]

I dont? And you read what i said wrong.. They are owned by EA.

[acoustic seal]

holding dice to zero accountability for bf5 is why we got 2042 and it's fucking deserved frankly

[remote kiln]

yes if they went independent tomorrow and was under their own shareholder structure they would be insolvent within a year

[fading hawk]

Nobody has held them unaccountable? Im just saying that No matter what the ultimate decision is in the hands of the publisher and rightsholder of the franchise in question.. DICE are responsible for alot of the poor decisions of course but do you really think a corporate entity as large as EA would leave the developers the final say on what happens with their cash cow?

[remote kiln]

battlefield cash cow?

have you seen the latest title?

[vocal tusk]

EA didnt design the maps, no. But they did set the start and end times/release date for the game, which if it isnt enough time would affect map/game quality. At the same time you cant blame EA for everything. DICE would have accountability for a lot of the mis-steps in the last few games.

In saying that...I do think that the majority of the changes made to 2042 post launch have been good changes.

[fading hawk]

Brother it was a figure of speech

[remote kiln]

it's not a very good one

they're probably not even making money as of yet lol

[fading hawk]

Cheers Walmart Mr beast

[remote kiln]

a independent DICE would literally be bankrupt if they tried surviving a battlefield 5 failure or a battlefield 2042 style revenue failure nevermind both combined

[fading hawk]

Its been the same for the last 20 something years

[remote kiln]

like you cannot ignore the reality of how games have went

[acoustic seal]

do you remember when they completely cancelled development for both battlefront 2(2) and bf5 to work on 2042 and it stll turned out dogshit?

[fading hawk]

Embark Studios is essentially an independent DICE with how many ex devs that moved there

[remote kiln]

they also didn't have a corporate failure which took tens of millions to make in the first place

[fading hawk]

You think devs made that decision?

[remote kiln]

"this that studio" is a extremely bad argument

and also embark aren't independent either lol

they're literally owned by nexon

[acoustic seal]

what did the man-hours go to if not making 2042 good? were they spending all day staring at the walls in the office?

[fading hawk]

Yeah but its like splitting up from Walmart and moving to walgreens

[remote kiln]

no it's not

nexon own the entirety of embark studios

[fading hawk]

Its only partially owned by Nexon

[royal swan]

Like a partnership deal

[remote kiln]

Following the transaction, Embark will become a consolidated subsidiary of Nexon Group.

a consolidated subsidiary

[vocal tusk]

If rumors are to believed...they were tasked with making a game that DICE didnt want to make (A BR/Extraction shooter), then 16 months before release were told to instead shift focus to using everythign they had made to cater to a core battlefield experience.

[fading hawk]

Thats not 100%

[remote kiln]

dude that's for 2019

[vocal tusk]

Its is a controlling stake

[royal swan]

I believe EA is in control of the fundamentals, the foundation that the game will stand on, and how it will make money

[remote kiln]

did you read the deal?

The deal was made in two tranches, one for $96M, giving Nexon a controlling stake of 66.1% in Embark Studios, which a month later was increased to 72.8 percent. The rest of the shares in the company are to be acquired within 5 years.

[fading hawk]

Yes of course

[remote kiln]

they own them entirely now lol

[royal swan]

Dice is doing the other work building on that foundation

[acoustic seal]

and apparently NOBODY LEARNED THEIR FUCKING LESSON because the next game is going to be a BR too

[remote kiln]

https://nordic9.com/news/nexon-purchases-another-third-of-nexon-for-96m-news5839049909/ it's right here

[fading hawk]

Still seems to allow 1000x more creative freedom than working under Electronic Assholes.

[remote kiln]

that's what happens when a game succeeds and one doesnt

[royal swan]

That's how I see it, if I hate the foundation I blame EA, of it's any added work like maps, guns, or bugs I blame dice

[remote kiln]

don't be surprised

[vocal tusk]

A BR game ALA Firestorm I would actually love TBH. The issue isnt the game type...its poor execution/direction on past games.

[remote kiln]

2042 was DICEs own failure in their making and pretending like it was EA is a misnomer

[fading hawk]

The core of the franchise has always been poopoo.. since 2006 when EA aquired DICE

[acoustic seal]

not a soul cared about firestorm or hazard zone and they won't care about dice br #3 either

[remote kiln]

battlefield 3 and 4 are regarded as the best games in history so how do you rationalise that lol

[vocal tusk]

You clearly werent around here when Firestorm released then. It was enjoyed by a lot of people, still is. The issue with it, BFV was its lack of support and a competent anti-cheat.

[fading hawk]

Were you there for BF4s launch dude? that was a catastrophe

[remote kiln]

of course I was there

that was over a decade ago

this is now

[fading hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[remote kiln]

if you want to doubt it you can view my battlelog lol it's all public information

[patent path]

Goddamn, Lehto's recent tweet just makes him look like a twat

[remote kiln]

you can't sit there and make claims and act all confused or everyone else is wrong when you get pushed back on

[fading hawk]

Im not confused? How did you judge that?

I should turn my webcam off....

...

[patent path]

left EA suddenly which led to his team being cut due to lack of leadership
"I have nothing nice to say about EA considering how they cut my team"
Bro YOU caused that

[remote kiln]

a immediate reaction of saying a person didn't experience a launch is asinine lol

you gave yourself away

[acoustic seal]

yeah man, go blame those victims

company treats the guy like shit and they treat his team like shit as retaliation for him leaving

[remote kiln]

there's no evidence they done that

[patent path]

I'm not blaming ridgeline, I'm blaming Lehto, considering all other employees have been saying EA is great to work with

[remote kiln]

all we can go off from is what we know

[patent path]

Lehto's statement is the odd one out

[remote kiln]

EA said he left on personal terms themselves and that's why they shut the studio

[fading hawk]

You saying that about BF4 and BF3 when at the time both had a shit load of controversy surrounding their releases and BF4 was half finished when it released. Maybe prolific in the FPS community but I dont have a single friend who plays battlefield.. everyone plays call of duty.

[remote kiln]

until lehto says something that he was mistreated etc we have nothing else

[acoustic seal]

who are these "other people" lol

[junior galleon]

yes?

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[remote kiln]

I have been here since I joined saying they both had shit launches, it doesn't change how it's perceived 10 years on dude

they're still regarded as the best games in the franchise by many

you can go on and be bitter or something I guess that's your right but it doesn't change much

[fading hawk]

Of course but its merely tainted by it having such a poor start much like 2042..

Theres a theme

Probably also known as crunching

[remote kiln]

there was no evidence during 3 or 4s launch that DICE were crunched and there isn't any for 2042, we know how 2042 came out because DICE managers literally gave interviews about it so there's no blame something else here

turns out when you give a studio too much creative autonomy they don't have a good sense of direction in what to do

yes that's heresy according to many but it's true

[royal swan]

That's why some that do have that freedom depend on the community for that direction

Bold on the some

[patent path]

my personal connections and you can literally find all these former EA employees literally being cut from Ridgeline giving EA praises

[remote kiln]

depend on? lol DICE were arguing with their community for eons

[fading hawk]

The games industry as a whole is crunched bro...

has been for the last 10 years

[royal swan]

That's why I said Some

[remote kiln]

they have always had a culture that they know better than anyone else including their own players

it only took a 2042 style launch for that to go away

[fading hawk]

They go by data and spreadsheets they dont go by the voices of their fans.

[patent path]

you can shit on EA for being money grubbing and whatever but they don't treat their employees like Blizzard or Riot lol

[remote kiln]

no they do

[acoustic seal]

ok so who are they and where are they saying this

[remote kiln]

they just didn't think they know what they were talking about the vast majority of the time

[acoustic seal]

"trust me bro" doesnt work here

[remote kiln]

which they are correct about

just not for everything

[fading hawk]

There was a tweet some years ago about making changes to an EA published title because of "data" even though it went against just about every media savvy player in the community and then it caused massive backlash.

[remote kiln]

they ofc use data for how they build things but it's not some overarching authority of decision making

it's just personal judgement

[fading hawk]

Its how a business works.. they rely on data for 99% of their workload.

[remote kiln]

?

[fading hawk]

Unless it financially smacks them in the face aka.. battlefront. Then they arent changing. They arent listening to the fans.

[royal swan]

?

[remote kiln]

I really don't know what you're saying lol

you sound bitter

[fading hawk]

On the topic of data

you orange

[junior galleon]

you orange?

[royal swan]

What

[remote kiln]

I'm orange? I guess

[fading hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-dumb-gif-20952040

Tis what this server feels like

[vocal tusk]

The thing with people like Letho, is that they likely already have "Fuck you money" so when they leave/get fired from a company...they dont need to tow a specific line.

that being said, I did think that his comments were unprofessional.

[patent path]

he literally caused the death of ridgeline then went on to blame EA for it

kind of a dick move

[remote kiln]

ehh I mean it's unprofessional, understandable he'd have that sentiment

[royal swan]

No idea what's going on anymore

[remote kiln]

when you build a studio personally and it all goes away you're going to be bitter

[junior galleon]

maybe your point just sucks

[fading hawk]

Hes 61 as well so probably taking that sweet early pension.

[fading hawk]

You werent here for half of it.. you walk in the room and expect immediate context but you just spout bs

[remote kiln]

lehto can say what he wants hes bigger than any studio who hires him anyways

[royal swan]

I heard suppressors lower the visual recoil, haven't seen that much information, probably a placebo effect.

[fading hawk]

You think that? you know him personally?

[remote kiln]

you create halo, you become a living epiphany lol

simple as that

[vocal tusk]

I wouldnt be very happy if I was headhunted to lead a new game/studio...and before even getting close to releasing said game...it is shit canned. So I can understand frustrations. It mainly sucks for his team members tho.

[fading hawk]

Goes back to my point of EA being the main say in just about every decision made.

DICE have a tiny voice.

[tidal trail]

Put the ego aside, he can only do halo nothing more

The job was too big for him

Halo 5 and infinite are dog water

[fading hawk]

The only decent halo is the original

Timeless

[tidal trail]

Halo died when bungie left it

[royal swan]

Halo infinite is actually fun

Decent game

To bad it took to long to get it to that spot

[tidal trail]

2 years to include forge and coop.

That's pathetic

[royal swan]

Yep, way to long

But it's a fun game now

[tidal trail]

And they couldn't even get split screen to work lmao

[patent path]

it was led by a bunch of morons

[royal swan]

They did a little redemption arch.

Little

[remote kiln]

“Then again, we are the development studio with creative freedom, I would argue. We would not try to pitch something that we didn’t believe in, and that takes time. Sometimes you want something but you don’t really believe it will pan out that well.”
I guess DICE themselves saying it isn't enough lol

[royal swan]

This ain't nms level of redemption, not even fucking close

[fading hawk]

How much were they paid to say that?

[remote kiln]

paid?

it's a interview with the media lol

[fading hawk]

Brother you cant defend EA.

[remote kiln]

you can't start conspiracy theories

[fading hawk]

Theyve shown since their formation how shit of a company they are

[worldly token]

What's the difference between "Full XP" and "Moderate XP"?

[fading hawk]

As bad as Activision

[royal swan]

Pulled that out of your ass or what

[tidal trail]

Point is, Halo and Battlefield both fell off. No reason for it either

[fading hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/conor-mc-gregor-who-the-fook-is-that-guy-who-the-fuck-interview-gif-9518656

[vocal tusk]

Moderate XP is throttled to like 500 XP per minute AFAIK

[remote kiln]

man your bitterness is really looking absurd right now lol

[patent path]

it doesn't matter what the truth is, EA is still the bad guy. People still think they are wholly responsible for the death of titanfall 3 by the way

[remote kiln]

apparently so

[fading hawk]

How am i bitter? Its a discussion..

[remote kiln]

dude do you realise what you just said or?

[royal swan]

Was Titanfall 3 even supposed to be a thing

[fading hawk]

That EA is a shit company?

yes

[remote kiln]

..

[patent path]

it was being worked on by respawn for a few months then canned by respawn themselves since they thought apex would be more profitable

and they were right

EA didn't even know about the work on titanfall 3

[remote kiln]

https://www.videogamer.com/news/how-dice-won-ea-over-with-mirror-s-edge-2/ for folk interested in dice interviews, they span a decade+, fascinating stuff

[fading hawk]

Man thinks everything is an arguement

[remote kiln]

right lol

anyways

[royal swan]

I feel like they should know a bit about that

[tidal trail]

EA closes studios whether they do good or not. EA killed some of my favorite studios like Pandemic and Visceral games (dead space)

[patent path]

yeah they knew when it was cancelled lol

[fading hawk]

Blackbox studios also

[royal swan]

Lol

[patent path]

respawn wasted a few months on tf3 but apex did so well so eh who care

[remote kiln]

it was a year roughly

[digital marlin]

all the battlefield games on sale rn ive never played one are any of em good ?

[patent path]

the internet will always blame EA because they was voted worst company in like 2012? They have been consistently winning best workplace for a while now

[worldly token]

link to source?

[royal swan]

I believe they lost that spot

[remote kiln]

tldr:
hardline/battlefield 5 - bad/unplayable
3, 4, 1, 2042: worth to buy

[fading hawk]

EA and Activision are much alike.

[patent path]

lol not even close

[royal swan]

Ubisoft is honestly the worst

[fading hawk]

Hardline was a strange release

[digital marlin]

thanks fam :

[remote kiln]

np

[digital marlin]

may i ask what happened to 5 ? thought it was popular ?

[fading hawk]

Well now you get Ubisoft+ for twice the price lmao

[tidal trail]

Activision will be worse under Microsoft

[remote kiln]

the game has been infested with hackers on pc since it was discontinued for support

[patent path]

literally impossible

[remote kiln]

they make up a majority of the players now in some form

[digital marlin]

i wanna buy on pc

[royal swan]

It would be the exact same, Microsoft does jack shit in influence

[patent path]

activision before microsoft covered up a lot of workplace harassment

[remote kiln]

then don't buy 5 lol

[fading hawk]

One company has moral standards the other is a bargepole away from human rights abuse.

lol

[digital marlin]

bet

[digital marlin]

do u mind telling me ur personal tier list for the games ?

[remote kiln]

uhh

depends how you're asking exactly

[digital marlin]

gameplay

[remote kiln]

in that order 2042/4 -> 3 -> 1

[fading hawk]

Hardline- BF3-BF4-BF5-BF1-2042

[junior galleon]

dont buy hardline nobody plays it

[royal swan]

Bf1 would be my highest

I got a bias for bf1

[fading hawk]

Ye bf1 was amazing

Actually lived up to the hype of the trailer which is rare.

[vocal tusk]

BF3 > 4 > 1 > 2042 > V > Hardline

[arctic grove]

BF4, BF1, BF3, BFV, 2042

For what I played

[junior galleon]

whats your budget

[digital marlin]

i can buy them all rn since they on sale fr

[remote kiln]

I like 1, I don't like the setting of the game

[patent path]

2042 is like 8$ right now isn't it

[remote kiln]

it's a good game, just dislike the gameplay

[fading hawk]

Its unique

[junior galleon]

just buy them all minus hardline because its dead as hell and 5 because of hackers

[remote kiln]

hardline peak players is something like 20-30 per day

[arctic grove]

V also has some stranger gameplay design elements that I don’t really suggest it to anyone because of, like its attrition mechanic

[remote kiln]

predictable when it wasn't even DICE who made it

[fading hawk]

I still think we should get a battlefield set like the movie 300 or the Battle of Thermopylae

[arctic grove]

[junior galleon]

legit or sarcasm

[fading hawk]

Would be sick

[patent path]

just play chivalry

[arctic grove]

DICE cosmetic designers would prolly make a badass looking Roman soldier tho

[digital marlin]

wont get em all but im seeing a lot of 2024 and 4 so i think ill get those, maybe 3 aswell

[patent path]

3 is dead af

don't bother

[fading hawk]

Na but first person charging at the enemy team, shield and sword with 100 others around you with frostbite graphics

[arctic grove]

2042 is recent, 4 is like the most well received besides 1

[arctic grove]

Yeah BFV game design was trash. I think it's the worst BF game. Can't even heal 100% without medpacks

[digital marlin]

i remember watching youtube vids with the battlefield theme blaring when cool stuff happens, it was very cool

[patent path]

add new mechanic to promote teamplay, remove said mechanic literal months after launch because of constant bitching on reddit

[junior galleon]

its still got a few hundred players, main issue with it is battlelog spoofing and launch issues, but for one dollar for standard edition its worth it lol

[royal swan]

Oh 2042 after 2 years are now adding squad wipe xp

[remote kiln]

you will come out hating battlefield 3 lol

it's not a very good game design wise with it's age

[fading hawk]

Lovely

[arctic grove]

BF3 is really a product of its time yeah

[fading hawk]

Its certainly stood the test of time graphically though

[arctic grove]

I mean it’s absolutely playable and active it’s just, old

[patent path]

the cancerous blue tint

[fading hawk]

Its what makes it tho

[royal swan]

I love tinting

[arctic grove]

BF3 still plays very good, way better than Trashfield V

[fading hawk]

bf3 without the blue tint is awful

[remote kiln]

one word: suppression

[arctic grove]

Maps especially hold up

The blue tint is really cursed but on some maps it’s barely visible

[remote kiln]

that's all that has to be said

[bitter mulch]

it is

[arctic grove]

True that

[junior galleon]

suppression is not that bad and ill die on that hill but 🤷‍♂️

[fading hawk]

The birth of metro too

[digital marlin]

back when cod and battlefield were fighting orange tint was the way

[fading hawk]

You get used to it

[patent path]

Yeah I kinda liked suppression

[remote kiln]

it's easy to say without actually visualising it

[arctic grove]

It should be visual only imo. But yeah you do get used to it

[digital marlin]

good god

[fading hawk]

I cant keep up with cod releases nowadays feels like they all have the same name.

[royal swan]

The only time I liked suppression was when I was giving suppression

[bitter mulch]

they have

[remote kiln]

if you don't want that don't play 3 lol

[digital marlin]

yea man and cods gone downhill aswell lmfao

[fading hawk]

Just dont get hit bro

[junior galleon]

it doesnt help this image is compressed as hell

[digital marlin]

why is it so blurry ?

[remote kiln]

that's the suppression effect in 3

yes as dumb as it sounds

[digital marlin]

what is supression effect ?

[arctic grove]

CoD has really good gun play tbh just fuck their version of sbmm

[fading hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPP5OHk5s6w

[digital marlin]

thx

[junior galleon]

if shots land near you your screen is blurred and accuracy is lowered, its not as bad as people make it out to be in my opinion plus there is a perk to negate it

[fading hawk]

np!

[junior galleon]

but thats just me

[remote kiln]

tldr: the game has a extremely moronic suppression effect where if bullets are fired past your character model your camera view is distorted and your bullets will randomly go in a direction where the crosshair isn't centre

[fading hawk]

I just posted a video above demonstrating

[remote kiln]

yes I know you did

[fading hawk]

(y)

damn

[digital marlin]

this concept seems cool but it looks bad design wise in this clip

[remote kiln]

yes it's extremely bad

now add 31 players firing at you

you get the idea

[fading hawk]

I mean you arent being fired at from 31 people 24/7 but yeah it was pretty bad

[junior galleon]

its in every battlefield game in some form until 2042

btw

with different changes

[remote kiln]

^ somewhat

[fading hawk]

At least with 2042 you can see when you are being shot

[remote kiln]

it's a bit different since it got overhauled with 4+ but yes that's technically correct

[novel zephyr]

because there's no assets or textures with depth....

[fading hawk]

Playing on low settings does that

jk

[royal swan]

Lmao

[remote kiln]

last gen moment

[royal swan]

2042 should've never released on last gen

[fading hawk]

Its a pretty stunning game on PC idk what you are playing

[junior galleon]

next gen had only been out for a year when it released tho so they couldnt resist the fat stacks they could potentially earn from last gen

[novel zephyr]

har har, but seriously even on PS5 it sucks. Just feels like a diet lacroix

[broken jasper]

Gameplay, over visuals, children. Looks fine on my XB and PC.

[fading hawk]

Yeah Next gen consoles will always feel last gen due to their release dates and the fact that PC is infinitely upgradeable in comparison.

[novel zephyr]

Keep in mind PS5/XBS came out in about the same time as 2042 so just like Black Flag, CoD Ghosts and BF4 even, they had to compensate for the release of the then current generation given the mixture of covid making distribution and purhcase of said new platforms borderline impossible.

[fading hawk]

You are never going to have a console more powerful than a PC

[fading hawk]

I swear they originally said they werent going to support old gen but they did anyway

[digital marlin]

always

gameplay will always come first

[broken jasper]

Absolutely

[patent path]

if a game looks like dog vomit I wouldn't want to play it to experience its superior gameplay

[novel zephyr]

That's a fair backtrack given that was probably a choice made before covid killed any plans for a 'timely' dispersal of PS5/XBS to storefronts and online distributers.

[broken jasper]

I came here to make Battlefield buddies... I guess this is just a spot for consumers tears lol.

[fading hawk]

At least frostbite has always been visually stunning

Ill give them that

[patent path]

there's being artistic and there's just being an ugly ass game

[arctic grove]

Right

[fading hawk]

PS5 is still a struggle to get for some even now

Completely fucked that launch

lol

[broken jasper]

If I wanted visuals... Id go outside lol

I game for gameplay

[digital marlin]

lmfao

[patent path]

you can't shoot up 50 people outside

[broken jasper]

Yes

Address pls

[arctic grove]

[novel zephyr]

Because people actually wanted it unlike Series S. That and phishing scammers used bots to buy hoards of them to then re-sell at a forcibly inflated and gouged price.

So that was pretty shit.

[fading hawk]

Also to do with not making enough supply for demand.

[junior galleon]

you can but Friendly fire will not be tolerated!

[novel zephyr]

Again covid.

[kindred flint]

alpha stage looks so much cleaner..

[junior galleon]

gray metro

[arctic grove]

On a map like metro that blue tint is honestly really terrible to look at

But metro by design isn’t exactly the most lit up map so

But something like operation firestorm you’ll barely notice it

[digital marlin]

2024/4

[novel zephyr]

"want to feel like 100 florescent lights are burning out your retinas?"

"The hell? NO!"

releases the entirety of BF3 that way anyway

[junior galleon]

the blue tint wasnt even that bad lol

the worst it did was make some of the colors washed out

[remote kiln]

it was bad, just more noticeable on maps than others

like the godrays too

[junior galleon]

the sun was pretty bad lol thats true

[mental delta]

BF2042 looks ok to me

[bitter mulch]

depends on the map

[digital marlin]

it looks bland imho

[patent path]

some maps look great while some are just meh

best looking bf game recently has to be bf1

ugliest is bf5

[junior galleon]

bf5 hand models

[mental delta]

[patent path]

clunky mess

doesn't matter how good the maps look, 70% of your screen is covered by your hands and weapons and they look awful

[arctic grove]

Even in 1 they’re quiet…. Detailed

[royal swan]

[mental delta]

But this has more to do with map design then, imo BF2042 looks good but maps absolutely don't have that war feeling

[digital marlin]

from the gameplay im watching rn i agree

[bitter mulch]

Soldiers and gun models are really bad

[patent path]

running or proning on your back then seeing your hands/weapons clip into your body just breaks any immersion you are having

[mental delta]

It's terrible how it ain't a BF game lol

[bitter mulch]

guns in fortnite have more details

[royal swan]

2042 is alright with weapon detail, not the best

bfv was really good on weapon detail

[junior galleon]

the clothing textures look really off, especially on the portal models

the protal models are hot garbage

[digital marlin]

lol

[junior galleon]

portal*

[bitter mulch]

even the shape of characherts its just off

[digital marlin]

what is this portal i keep hearing abt ?

[bitter mulch]

never played portal 1 or 2 from valve?

[acoustic seal]

bf5 zero visibility and 2042's bland everything makes blue tint seem genius lmao

[junior galleon]

custom gamemode maker thing with a few old maps and guns from old battlefield games

mostly used for 600% damage milsims matches and xp farms

[royal swan]

mind you they picked terrible old maps

[digital marlin]

oh

[royal swan]

Caspian border is overrated garbage

[junior galleon]

not terrible just the most uninspired choices

[royal swan]

I'll die on that hill

[bitter mulch]

so we can say the portal is done, dont think they will add it in the next BF

[junior galleon]

like of course they picked caspian and noshahr, what else?

of course they picked arica harbor and valparaiso

just very boring picks

no shade to arica or valparaiso

[royal swan]

arica is mid to alright

[junior galleon]

arica is a great map just not the best bc2 map imho

[royal swan]

valparasio was that map where they removed the water right

having that open ass area that ruined the entire map

add the water back, and I'll like that map more

[junior galleon]

the one map they picked that was straight bad is el alamein

[royal swan]

yep

FUCK EL ALAMEIN

[junior galleon]

people only liked that map because of bf1942s mechanics, remove that and you go from a terrible but kind of fun map to a terrible map

[royal swan]

if walking simulator was just a map it would be el alamein

like even hourglass was never this shit

[junior galleon]

people only liked el alamein because you could baserape the enemy team and steal their planes and have dogfights

if you could even take off before being blown up and repeating the process of baseraping

[bitter mulch]

Why dont they remaster BF2 maps, they were the maps

Oman, Sharqi, Karkand, Dragon Valley, Dalian Plant..

[royal swan]

if only they added wake island

[junior galleon]

im assuming they thought it wouldnt resonate with the newer battlefield audience

not that bf2 isnt iconic but the games that are in the spotlight the most these days is bf4, bf3, and bc2

and 1942 is the first battlefield so easy shoe-in

[patent pivot]

not for me

pacing is slow

[novel zephyr]

It was still annoying

[bitter mulch]

well they resonate with kaledioscope

[novel zephyr]

Wake island is technically a bonus golf course in one of the billions of EA sports games

[junior galleon]

wake island has been in every other battlefield game ever made so it was cool they were actually going to remaster some maps that werent wake island

[novel zephyr]

No wait, I meant Paracel Storm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biCY0qgT8fs

GOt my wires crossed, my bad.

[junior galleon]

only issue is wake island is the only 1942 map that still holds up

[novel zephyr]

El Almien looked promissing

[junior galleon]

how? el alamein was always a bad map and it was only fun for bringing 1942's mechanics to their knees

[novel zephyr]

The sense of scale was pretty cool, only issue being is that it was without much cover

Sort of like that BFV map where you spawn right next to the enemies

[mental delta]

They could have given us Operation Metro or fucking Karkand but no

[junior galleon]

to be fair if they remade metro people would still be mad

[mental delta]

Agreed, metro fans are the worst kind of BF players, it's the type of dudes you don't want to be in a bar by peaceful time but also the kind of dudes you want in a bar if something goes wrong

Metro is repayable a lot

And there would have been a lot of dedicated servers for it

[junior galleon]

yeah

agreed

[pine roost]

people are mad no matter what

[patent pivot]

well im mad over here for poor flexibility in solo pve

[pine roost]

well 2042 is the first game I know to offer it

[patent pivot]

i cannot determine if classic BF or 2042 have better flexibility

one pro for 2042 is maximum bot count

classic is locked to like

under 16

[pine roost]

but like, did any of the titles before 4 have the same ai solo / coop bots type mode

I genuinely don't know

was curious

[patent pivot]

I know 2 and 2142 did

[void gorge]

look.. you can even call me crazy but the close voice in bf is sorely missed.. I'm playing 2042 and I had a tank with low health, I had a support ally nearby and I don't know why he did that, I'm not coming to help despite ask for help using the function......

[arctic grove]

Yea BF3 had a co-op mode

Though instead of ai battles it was more so intended to be a more flexible version of the campaign I suppose

[mental delta]

It was incredible

Really

[upbeat sand]

Did dice change redacted 64 ever outside that 1 time where all the metro hardcore got extremely hateful

[arctic grove]

Close voice?

[arctic grove]

Yea they were cool

[snow cliff]

went to launch the game now and i just got this

message

to login on EA to activate battlefield

wtf is that

anyone else with this ?

[frank tartan]

why is my bf2042 stuck in season 6?

[pine roost]

funnily enough, it's because we are in seson 6

[frank tartan]

oh yeah just saw the release date

[zealous citrus]

I have BF 2042 installed through Steam. If I get another copy of the game and use it through a second Steam account, will it just have access to the original install of the game or will it actually install the game again in a different location? If not and if the second account has access to the original install, will it have any effect on my stats and progress of the first account?

[prime lotus]

whats the gamemode that squid plays with huge maps

and like helicopters and jets

[tawny carbon]

Conquest

I think

Or breakthrough if it’s attacker vs Defenders only

[prime lotus]

ok thank you

[acoustic seal]

2042 installs in /steamapps/common so both steam accounts would use the same install, and i think you would have to make an alt account through origin/EApp and switch between the two if you want to keep your ingame identity separate

if you have the stub version of EApp from steam's 2042 install then you would need to install the full version over it to do that

it's just a pain in the ass no matter how you slice it

[ruby citrus]

god, no better feeling than lizzing a killstreaking nightbird

[ebon pilot]

what about M5ing a killstreaking nightbird

[ruby citrus]

the liz feels more fun, esp if you do it like 400m away

[zealous citrus]

Thanks. Maybe I'll just get it through the EA app with it's own account to make sure it's all seperate.

[ebon pilot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1218578850162671616/orbital_heli2.mp4?ex=66082cfd&is=65f5b7fd&hm=7a5271ebdb29db680ebba7d61fac9610df814ff39d8787adceb82f6d1abdf224&

[ebon pilot]

idk when you get them as they think they just got away it's pretty good

[arctic grove]

do we think bf 2025 will be $60?

More than likely yea

[patent pivot]

Who wants to bet the servers will be overwhelmed on 19th

[ruby citrus]

$60 at launch and $20 on sale 5 months later

as are all battlefield games

I think I spent like $50 in total on battlefield games and I've been playing since 3

got bf1 for like $3, bfv for $5, 2042 for 10ish iirc

[arctic grove]

if the game isnt too exciting and bf 2042 servers are still going ill wait the 5 months

[tidal trail]

It's $9 now on ea app

[arctic grove]

not bf 2025

[tidal trail]

Oh

[arctic grove]

yeah lol, i meant 2025

how can i train my aim on this game lol

or warm up, rather

[pale wadi]

js play

[tawny carbon]

Sheesh, to early for that. It’s 2042 that we are focused on

[arctic grove]

i’ve been playin, but it’d be nice to have smth to warm up with beforehand. i’m still doing decently well but it’s just kind of annoying

[pine roost]

abgrnr, chuck that code in portal

[arctic grove]

it showed an undefined error, i tried but idk why

[pine roost]

yeah it wasn't updated, works now though

[pale wadi]

i die to x box players with lmgs

laying down

or in corners

[next onyx]

Aanj7z hasn't been updated for a while I believe.

[chilly jacinth]

seems like the newer test range is also broken

[arctic grove]

i tried all the codes on portal and none worked

[chilly jacinth]

i tried it like 2 days ago and it didnt work

[arctic grove]

there was a rlly poor practice map made by someone else that posted there

the code didn’t work either but i copied the setup into my portal and tried it with the new code it gave me and that worked

but then i started it up again today and it stopped working too

[chilly jacinth]

portal is probably just broken right now

[pale wadi]

portal is garbage

[arctic grove]

is DICE gonna fix it anytime soon?

[chilly jacinth]

hopefully it will get fixed on the 19th

[pale wadi]

the only thing good on there is bf3

[arctic grove]

kinda weird to not have an official shooting range mode added to the game officially

[frank tartan]

i swear the new generation of battlefield players are so god awful

[tawny carbon]

Portal been broken for a while.

[pine roost]

Yeah it fixed itself earlier today funnily enough

Played it an hour ago

This is the one game where I have to take breaks like once an hour just so my eyes can adjust

Goodness

I do seriously wish they add a decent range next time around

[ivory canopy]

I am in love with the M60

[arctic grove]

wait its working again?

[ivory canopy]

64p TDM my beloved

[pine roost]

yup

[fading hawk]

The one thing I hope they fix in the next battlefield is this spotting system. Why is it squad only? How does that make sense lmao.

[arctic grove]

it’s the abgrnr one right?

i skimmed thru reddit and apparently it works if u spam the host button like 10 times or so

did u do anything specifically that made it work?

[low maple]

Anyone on ?

[pine roost]

nope, just type in, set password, press play

[arctic grove]

hmm

odd

i’ll try tn when i get home

[royal swan]

ooh you got the game. How is it

like is it alright

oh yall talking about training portal maps

honestly i test it in coop

[arctic grove]

it’s decent, not as good as older titles fs

[arctic grove]

yea i just want a test range thing that i can use to warm up before playing a few rounds

[royal swan]

nice, should do it again tho, the next update will be changing headshot multipliers and how most guns perform

[dense pier]

whoever decided to make 4x scopes have no glare im finna kiss you

thought I was gonna have to use 1.5 forever

[ivory canopy]

Holy shit if I run another session of 64pTDM like this, I'll have the M60 at T1 in no time.

If I do manage to T1 every specialist then I'll just run whoever I feel like from there on

[pine roost]

I don’t know if I’m the odd one out but I’ve never used anything but the 6x or red dot

Anyone else?

[dense pier]

I use the tv 2x

[void gorge]

You must already have a Warzone player? It's because during the game you can activate a function called "approach voice" and that's what I'm referring to

[pine roost]

You mean proximity voice

This game doesn’t have that. Only your squad can hear your voice

[karmic egret]

hey does anyone use rivatuna

cuz mine aint working in 2042

nevermind its the anticheat

thats blocking it

DICE fix

(

[patent pivot]

or just geforce overlay?

[chilly jacinth]

You don't need rivatuner

[karmic egret]

im using amd

[patent pivot]

whats their GPU software called

do they have their own overlay

[tawny carbon]

I was watching jackfrags play the new map of S7 from the creator preview and visual recoil and feels abit heavy, change looks beautiful

[undone dragon]

I can't wait till my game has downloaded

[tawny carbon]

S7 drops on the 19th

[patent pivot]

you wanna bet the server will be overloaded

[tawny carbon]

That’s just a early preview from the EA creator network

[jade trellis]

Hello players

[tawny carbon]

It always will on the first day of each season for games

[patent pivot]

might as well play on next day

[undone dragon]

yea I saw in the steam news section

[jade trellis]

Too bad I might not be in the day of the season launch

[tawny carbon]

Imma play it early as I can. But I’ll be on in the evening of USE time kek, I get off of work by then

[arctic grove]

I feel like it’d look better with some screen shake or something

But I think that looks good

[tawny carbon]

Naw. But it’s not even that bad what people made it look like tbh. But it’s great 👍

[arctic grove]

The changes were to simulate recoil effect better correct?

[tawny carbon]

It’s basically of what they showed in the update vid.

[tawny carbon]

Yes. Without affecting the gun itself and spread

You see jackfrags holding down fire on the weapon. Still beaming players with the AKS

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah in that case if that’s what they wanted I personally think it’d look better with some screen shake added or something, not much tho

[arctic grove]

Why were people complaining about it again

[tawny carbon]

People said It will affect spread and ect. It will do bad for the game. And it’s too late to make these changes.

They said themselves aka devs that it won’t affect the weapon. But it’s mainly focused on to make the gun feels better and increase the skill ceiling abit more.

You see the recoil and visually a lot more but it’s not affecting anything about the weapon itself

I’m just happy for this change, weapons right now feels so boring 🥱 and dull. I feel like I was playing cod MW09 all over again. I’m glad it got updated.

[arctic grove]

Yea guns felt incredibly ‘weak’ and boring tbh

[tawny carbon]

Gunplay don’t have to be the best. I just don’t like plain. Especially the weapon feeling. That’s why i enjoyed MW23, the guns actually feels amazing. You feel the recoil, visual recoil also. And ect.

Now for BF2042 for S7, it just feels abit heavier and not plain. Bullets still go to middle of your screen as intended. With dispersion for spread overtime.

[ivory canopy]

M60 feels stupid accurate right now

So I'm intrigued by the changes

[onyx mica]

new season!!! welcome to bf 2042 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaGUbLynISk

[naive magnet]

Running people over with dozer counts towards his T1 progression 👀

[dawn cedar]

yet people praise bf4 even tho every gun was a 0 recoil laser xdd

[arctic grove]

2042 and it's version of skill-based matchmaking with no server browser (away from Portal) is the worst thing to happen to FPS. There, I said it.

[arctic depot]

Hello, I started playing 2042 yesterday. When I clicked on the portal section, it suggested me a free for all mode.But I can't find that mode in the same place anymore. In the browser section, there are only options such as all, conquest, rush, custom, followed.How can I find the (free for all) mode I played yesterday?

[arctic grove]

That’s fair enough

[arctic grove]

Bloom reset and tap firing added a decent and simple skill gap to that gunplay. And they’re not really lasers, though they do look like it if you play with a high FOV

[arctic grove]

A server browser will always be superior for matchmaking in battlefield (I’m neutral on battlefields team balancing system, mainly because I don’t fully know how it works besides sometimes moving players ‘according to skill level’)

The team balancing is not as big a deal as the "lower skilled players don't take damage and have shorter TTK" kind of balancing. The worst part about it is most players even notice and the devs did it because they have to sell games.

The game literally GIVES lower ranking players kills so they can sell more games to Little Johnny who can't afford a PC. Then, when PC players disable crossplay, guess what? There are zero games and NO SERVER BROWSER.

I'm not even going to start on the aimbotting aim assist for gamepad users. Having an actual TTK multiplier for gamepads PLUS aim the strongest aim assist in any game ever created is just wild.

[naive magnet]

You can try searching for it in the portal, maybe try free for all or ffa under your search, it’s not a “standard” playlist though

[acoustic seal]

i hate to defend 2042 but you are literally just making shit up here

controller gets 25% less recoil + whatever snap AA does, strange instant deaths are usually caused by players on shitty wifi and laggy overheating consoles

dice isnt smart enough to add conspiracy-based matchmaking

[naive magnet]

“Conspiracy based matchmaking” lol

[next onyx]

Activate windows

[arctic grove]

Nope. Public information.

[acoustic seal]

public information... in an activision patent

did activision make 2042?

[naive magnet]

Who’s the easiest to T1 in recon?

I’m thinking Rao

[next onyx]

Rao has potential to steam roll though Paik is the most consistent due to eagle eyed.

Actually wait.

Blasco.

[naive magnet]

Blasco redacted spam?

[next onyx]

Yeah possibly.

[tawny carbon]

I think BF3 till now have bloom or dispersion. I’m not to sure for older battlefields before BF3.

[next onyx]

I was thinking of when she was released.

[naive magnet]

She needs a ton with her utility compared to Rao though, and grinding redacted is meh

I think I’ll mess with Rao and see how many i get naturally

[next onyx]

You'd be surprised how quickly blocked spots stack.

[dawn cedar]

casper on spearhead 128

[naive magnet]

Maybe you’re right I’ll try both and see what I get for each

[acoustic seal]

it wouldn't even work cuz the game is on life support and there are maybe one and a half lobbies per gamemode per region

[tawny carbon]

SBMM never been a thing in battlefield games. Team balancing is also a form of SBMM. Official servers never have that. Battlefield is a pure casual game.

[acoustic seal]

they had skill-based team sorting in bf1, it never worked right though

[tawny carbon]

Skill ceiling is very different than SBMM

[arctic grove]

People thinking games without server browsers don't have SBMM is wild.

[tawny carbon]

BF1 don’t have SBMM

Or anything close to it

[arctic grove]

Did BF1 havea server browser?

Exactly

[acoustic seal]

it would try to balance teams by moving squads when you got to a new map, it sucked shit because it wouldn't ever try to break up squads lol

[tawny carbon]

You only see SBMM or alike methods in competitive games like cod/val ect. Battlefield is to casual for that.

[arctic grove]

Again, balancing is not the same as SBMM

[tawny carbon]

Balancing is a form of skill based.

Both still try to keep it even on both sides either way.