battlefield-2042

[jovial jay]

but I'm too afraid to tell what it is

[lament iron]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-bank-stare-meh-gif-9603576

[safe bramble]

embed fail

[torpid lotus]

anyone having issues with their social tab showing 0 friends online. Ive unistalled both the game and EA app and still no luck

[robust vapor]

What launcher did you use?

[thick robin]

12M Slugs with scope

[robust vapor]

EA or steam?

I had the same issue once

[thick robin]

S500 with slugs

[robust vapor]

And the fault was me launching with steam despite having friends online

[torpid lotus]

steam

[robust vapor]

Closed the game and relaunch with EA

[torpid lotus]

copy thnx

[robust vapor]

2042 can be launched with both platforms

So if you add friends on EA

Launch with the EA app

Vice versa

[dusk falcon]

you can put a shotgun on a shotgun?

incredible

[robust vapor]

you can cut your middle finger and use it as a slug too

backup ammo

[reef cedar]

yeeeahh, true. I just like fighting with and against the variety of specialists, hopefully they give bots that upgrade to make them feel not as dry
not like training AI is hard at all nowadays either

[idle lion]

soooo.... where players?

[karmic egret]

no, im suprised I even T1'd the s22

playing with shotguns feels like a chore

[next onyx]

Asides from the 880. Shotguns aren't hard to use.

S22 for what it's worth feels balanced.

[karmic egret]

just add more pellets to the 880

and increase the spread circle

[patent path]

the 880 is both accurate and inaccurate at the same time, I don't get it

[next onyx]

Just swap around the shortys damage model with the 880.

[dire salmon]

I wanted to try hazard zone for the first time, turns out, nobody is playing it

[next onyx]

A secondary shouldn't replace a primary.

Unless it's the p125 which by itself is so fucking solid.

[karmic egret]

even the shorty is inconsistent at times

[next onyx]

Maybe but it's much better than the 880.

Literally asides from capacity the shorty is superior.

[karmic egret]

oh shit yeah

[next onyx]

Pump, damage, reload.

Flechette 880 was fucking rude but it was at its best.

[karmic egret]

is flachete any good

[chilly jacinth]

No

[next onyx]

Not anymore.

[chilly jacinth]

Slugs are also useless on everything besides the 12m

[next onyx]

880 flechete cunt.

49m ohk range if they all hit.

Which wasn't difficult.

[karmic egret]

i fucking hate the ads realod

mtar still fucking slaps

[waxen turret]

What is the average player count at the moment?

[thorny oracle]

I got 108k damage in conquest lol

[naive quiver]

Well done dice early morning crashed

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-chris-rock-jada-pinkett-smith-oscars2022-smack-gif-25234614

[karmic egret]

i used the new grenade

[chilly jacinth]

I died to it yesterday cause it blew me up through a wall

I was only slightly mad

[blazing terrace]

I think the spring grenade is poo poo

I wish the AT grenade did a bit more damage

[acoustic seal]

i wish the AT nade was on a class i actually use

feels kinda like dead content considering you can just bring scar AP underbarrel

[chilly jacinth]

AT nade is good though

[blazing terrace]

I cannot describe the suffering I went through to get the promised land background

The spring grenade and minis are both ass

[robust vapor]

is the rm68 nerfed yet?

[chilly jacinth]

Yes

[robust vapor]

good

[chilly jacinth]

But its still very good

[robust vapor]

at least the performance isn't as optimal before

[blazing terrace]

The RM68 is easy to counter

It’s called hitting the whip with a .50 caliber anti material rifle

[acoustic seal]

the 4hk range is slightly less than it was but we're still fucking around with a 4hk range so you're still going to see it very often

[karmic egret]

bruh just remove the shortend barrel

[blazing terrace]

Hit the whip on em

[karmic egret]

thats it im getting political

[blazing terrace]

Oh god

Someone

Getting political

[karmic egret]

trump

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-fake-news-gif-11382583

[blazing terrace]

Aaaahhh

A guy I don’t care about

He’s not my prime minister

[karmic egret]

albasleazy

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/rude-jack-black-jumanji-jumanji-movie-gif-11210109

[karmic egret]

scumo

[blazing terrace]

Albino albo

[blazing terrace]

Hey

Look at my Xbox name

We don’t talk about sco mo

[karmic egret]

rudd the dudd

[blazing terrace]

Even though he shit himself in a engadine MacDonalds in 1997

Bob Hawke the legend

[karmic egret]

the red headed clown

[blazing terrace]

Paul Keating

He doesn’t have a fun nick name

[karmic egret]

i hate paul keating

sooooo much

hes a massive prick

[blazing terrace]

I think we’ll agree on my next point

Fuck tony abbot

He’s a useless tool

[karmic egret]

ehhhhhh

bob hawke was pretty good

john howard was decent aswell

[blazing terrace]

But tony abbot

Grr

Also fuck Malcom turnbull

NBN is a scam

And adani

[karmic egret]

malcolm turnbull is a snake

knifed abbott for the leadership

[blazing terrace]

He is greed made flesh

[karmic egret]

power hungry

[blazing terrace]

I’m not gonna sell Australia blah blah

Proceeds to shill out to coal and gas companies

[karmic egret]

we havent had a decent prime minister since howard

[blazing terrace]

Who was the worst in recent memory

For me sco mo

[karmic egret]

ehhhh im not sure tbh

they are all equally as bad

[blazing terrace]

I’m still angry about the biblical apocalypse he did Jack shit about

[karmic egret]

imma give albosleazy a pass till the next election

[carmine rover]

meow

[blazing terrace]

We’ll see how sleazy does

[karmic egret]

yeah scomo was ok at first but after black summer yikes

[fickle wharf]

????

[karmic egret]

Australian politics

[blazing terrace]

We had a literal biblical apocalypse basically

[fickle wharf]

Sure is bf 2042 related lmao

[blazing terrace]

Fires floods Covid the economy going to shit

[blazing terrace]

Well I sco mo#2221 play 2042 so it checks out

[karmic egret]

floods were out of his control

[blazing terrace]

Divine judgement

[karmic egret]

but fucking off to hawaii was not a good look

[patent path]

I caused the flood in Australia

[blazing terrace]

Are you Australian

[patent path]

sorry

I'm not

[blazing terrace]

You don’t get to talk lot of people lost everything

[patent path]

lol okay

[karmic egret]

maybe dont live in a flood zone

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-wait-thats-right-its-true-smile-gif-20160920

[blazing terrace]

I mean I’m Tasmanian so I’m immune from all your main land bs

We got Covid like 2 months after everyone else we held it off

[karmic egret]

nup if i become prime minister im building a big beautiful bridge

[blazing terrace]

Until one actual crack head from bridge water lied to authorities

[blazing terrace]

Damn

But what about the big boat

That’s like 50% of images

[karmic egret]

ill get the navy to torpedo that shit

[blazing terrace]

And the other 50 is the jackjumpers and eshays and ofc the Glenorchy bus mall

[karmic egret]

im in Queensland

[blazing terrace]

Boo how’s the weather up there it’s raining down here

[patent path]

just move to New Zealand

it's just better

[blazing terrace]

Bruv don’t start

Well bring in the sheep stuff

And I’ll say the most offensive thing to a kiwi

Aren’t you just east Tasmania

[patent path]

[blazing terrace]

I’m coming over the right now

[haughty helm]

hi

wgat up

what

[patent path]

good, leave Tasmania, come to Welly

[haughty helm]

huh

ah

[patent path]

Welly has great roast duck

right next to a strip club too

perfect combination

[robust vapor]

Welly has great roast duck ~Cats

Aight time to change my spirit animal

[blazing terrace]

I’d rather die than live in Wellington

[haughty helm]

hey guys

[blazing terrace]

Auckland gang

[haughty helm]

got a question

[blazing terrace]

If it’s over which country is better

It’s Australia

[haughty helm]

about the Portal section in the game

[blazing terrace]

Go for a lobster

[haughty helm]

does the game mode rotate'

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[blazing terrace]

Depends on de server

[robust vapor]

Each week yes

Weekly events

[blazing terrace]

1942 rendezvous kinda meh

[robust vapor]

Some of them are repeats

Some are new

[haughty helm]

cool

[blazing terrace]

I want more BF3

[haughty helm]

good to know

[haughty helm]

same

[haughty helm]

thx for the info mate

[robust vapor]

You'll get to see them update on a Tuesday normally

[haughty helm]

i was wondering the thefuck we had this "Eras" classes" but no way to use them

except 1942 atm

[haughty helm]

nice

[robust vapor]

Last week's portal event had all available eras for the game

1942 bf3 2042 and bc2

[haughty helm]

im reinstalling the game

[robust vapor]

rush and conquest only

[haughty helm]

oof

[robust vapor]

The cycle can be told easily. Rush > Conquest and it repeats

For the eras its RNG

[haughty helm]

i dont a problem with that

[blazing terrace]

I need more BF3 so I can get the tour of duty backgrounds

[haughty helm]

i like both modes

but i want the old bf3 feel

i found weird there is no bf4 "Era"

[blazing terrace]

It’s basically just be BF3

There should be a bf1 era

I’d love to hit the whip with a mp18 on reclaimed

[haughty helm]

imagine Ubisoft does something like that

and you're in the future doing your shit

like all the storytelling they create

and then you become a fucking caveman

idk

BF 2042 has the potential for that

[blazing terrace]

Me and the boys in the mammoth bouts capture objective booga

[haughty helm]

ikr and this semiguy summons a sabretooth while still being on the mammoth

the feline kills a couple of enemies, says sup and leaves without elaborating

[fickle wharf]

uhh

since when is the railgun 40 damage to body?

[haughty helm]

dumb fact: i played BF2042 on pc gamepass, liked enough so i bought a steam key really cheap just so i could have my prpgress on steam hehe

[haughty helm]

the what, now?

[fickle wharf]

yeah

was it always like that ?

[haughty helm]

idk i started playing like yesterday or so

[fickle wharf]

railgun yes

[haughty helm]

im telling you bro, i have played 1 and a half days

idk recognize the railgun

xd

sorry

[fickle wharf]

check the utility weapon section in collection

[haughty helm]

im reinstalling the game bro

[fickle wharf]

rocsh? mk4

[haughty helm]

its finishing in like

and hour and a half

[misty pumice]

Why tf are there so many shield players all of a sudden

[haughty helm]

too OP

1 hit kill

[misty pumice]

But there never used to be

[haughty helm]

ridiculous

[misty pumice]

They always were 1 hit

[haughty helm]

still

they seem to enjoy it

[misty pumice]

So cringe

[haughty helm]

in COD using the shield was a nightmare

BF2042 its way too OP IMO

[misty pumice]

Theyll go 5 and 20 coz they can only get kills w their shield

[robust vapor]

part of the weekly mission

[haughty helm]

uuuuoooououoouh

what about it

[robust vapor]

use the shield specialist to progress faster

[haughty helm]

lol

how convenient

[robust vapor]

it's in the battlepass

🙂

[haughty helm]

dx

in my defense, dont really look at all those details

because i aint buying the battlepass

at least not this one

he

[robust vapor]

That guy is just wondering why there are so many shield players

the battlepass weekly mission is the answer

[haughty helm]

ye

[robust vapor]

pretty sure most of them mentioned didn't main the shield specialist

just for the sake of the mission

[haughty helm]

i actually enjoy using Dozer

and his shield

but not the way everyone i had encounter

usually to get some intel by peaking, crusing streets and shit like that

[misty pumice]

Intel in a battlefield game lol

[haughty helm]

wha

like pointing out enemies

marking

[dusk falcon]

thats spotting

just call it that

[haughty helm]

getting intel by spotting

for the rest of the seam

team

[dusk falcon]

anyways any tips for being better at controller

i suck ass against pc players

[robust vapor]

play tactical

[dusk falcon]

i dont wanna sound like a crossplay bad cunt

but when the lobby is 75% PC you kinda struggle

hell maybe 85%

[robust vapor]

I was using a controller on my pc a while ago and my playstyle changed

[chilly jacinth]

gotta see your gameplay to give any meaningful tips

[robust vapor]

you don't go rambo with it

[chilly jacinth]

other than git gud

[dusk falcon]

the only gameplay i record is when i hit lissiles on helis

i rewatch it sometimes to make me feel better about myself

[chilly jacinth]

[proven obsidian]

still you sound like one

you can disable crossplay, there is enough people in the game anyways

[dusk falcon]

mate i live in eu and i cant find full lobbies

and the ai fight like theyve got a stick up their ass

the struggle is real

[proven obsidian]

so you deal with it, like we deal with controller aim assist people shooting us full spray at 200m without missing

it is what it is

[dusk falcon]

i got aim assist and snap at 100 and i still miss

maybe it really is a skill issue

[proven obsidian]

part of it is, part of it is due to the game design and the rest is kinda bullshit reg and servers

we all struggle don't worry, even higher K/D people deals with bullshit 24/7 on this game

just play as you want and enjoy your time without being a pita for your team and all good

[zinc glade]

K/D isn't something to be stressed over

it's a game

[proven obsidian]

yeah but people play if for different reason

idc about it, just i'd rather take a high K/D swag player over an useless dude sitting on a rock the whole game without contributing at all for anything besides ... his personal K/D

[zinc glade]

@dusk falcon if you're struggling to get kills at least find a role in reviving or resupplying your squad/team

[proven obsidian]

it's the beauty of BF - find your role and be good at it

[dusk falcon]

i tend to be anti vehicle but of course i play medic if the team is missing support

this bf really is one of the easiest support experience ever

falck revives in 0.45737 zeptoseconds
angel has infinite ammo
irish says no to explosives

[proven obsidian]

i would advise you to go medic buuuuut...even if the team if composed of 18 engineers, there is a lack of skill that leads to vehicle spam and Recon being better at the job

[proven obsidian]

it is, and you are rewarded for pretty much any little actions you partake in

so don't stress over and enjoy your time buddy

[glacial knoll]

Hey guys is there any app that can track my stats?

[arctic grove]

There is a website

[dusk falcon]

battlefieldtracker.com

[zinc glade]

Also having a squad of people to play with is far and away a better experience than matching up with randos that you can't even communicate with. @dusk falcon

[arctic grove]

There you go

[glacial knoll]

Thanks guys

[pine roost]

I'd rather just play against and with my own input device to avoid any ambiguity

[crisp scarab]

Anyone know how to fix matchmaking failed error?

[arctic grove]

Uhh they removed breakthrough? why do they do this to me

[gleaming oriole]

I think input based matchmaking should be standard. There's no reason to put keyboard and mouse against controller and vice versa.

People say it'll kill the game... But battlefield has thrived the past decade without crossplay. Why does it need it so badly now all of a sudden to succeed when it never has needed it?

[pine roost]

Trouble is, even when crossplay wasn’t a thing you’d still be matched against controllers since you can plug one in anyway

In an ideal world I’d love to stick to mouse players only but even with crossplay off I can’t see that happening as it’s too much of a faff

[mental delta]

https://tenor.com/view/my-reaction-to-that-information-meme-my-reaction-to-that-information-mike-o-hearn-gif-13257779959215558930

[gleaming oriole]

The thing is. When you play on PC you have the option to play with whatever input you choose. And you're knowingly putting yourself at a disadvantage, but you have that choice.

Consoles have to use controller and we don't get that choice. We just get fucked and told too bad you're playing at a severe disadvantage get over it.

I know games like CoD and Halo have hella aim assist to make up for those disparities, but battlefield doesn't.

It's honestly hard to give us aim assist that would actually make a difference too when nothing in the game is hitscan. Projectile based shooters are near impossible to implement aim assist that would actually be of benefit.

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/huang-jensen-nvidia-ceo-gif-19751265

[haughty helm]

play it safe

[pine roost]

I wouldn’t mind them adding mouse as an option for controllers if you could actually matchmake based on input for once

[gleaming oriole]

This. Don't rush. Pace yourself and be aimed already when cornering. You aren't going to out flick a mouse on reaction alone.

[haughty helm]

i still have my progress from gamepass version

amazing

[gleaming oriole]

This and they need matches to start regardless of the amount of players present.

[haughty helm]

Like fill it with bots and let the players take their place when connecting?

[south moon]

where's breakthrough?

they removed it?

[haughty helm]

no idea

[gleaming oriole]

Yeah. It's one of the reasons people don't turn off crossplay. Because there are people playing but it's impossible to get a match rolling because of the minimum player requirement

[south moon]

nvm its a bug

[gleaming oriole]

No. I just finished a match

[pine roost]

there's something fun about playing in lobbies that are still filling up

like the skirmish waiting matches in overwatch

people just kind of mess around

[shell ermine]

Sticking the compensator on the Scar that increases accuracy seems to has negated the new dispersion

[haughty helm]

makes sense

[gleaming oriole]

Eh. I just don't enjoy playing against mouse and keyboard. I'm a good player and usually top of my team. But anytime you bring up separating players based on input. People want to pull the "You're just trash" card.
No I'm not. I just don't enjoy being told to be thankful I'm being allowed to play at a disadvantage and I should just accept it.

[shell ermine]

The best 2042 has ever been is when crossplay was bugged and kept PC players out of console lobbies

I'm getting tired of being beamed by PC players with weapons at ranges and shots that aren't possible on controllers

[gleaming oriole]

I agree. I'm usually top of my team despite going against a mostly PC team. But I don't enjoy it. I win my engagements because I approach them intelligently. Not because controller can actually compete on an even playing field.

[pine roost]

just like how I don't enjoy playing against controller. I don't like engaging with the whole mouse vs controller thing cause it is just a slippery slope that goes nowhere, all I want is to ensure I'm on an even playing field so it feels fair to play

[gleaming oriole]

Exactly. People love to cry about battlefields non existent aim assist...

But they won't talk about getting headshotted by an smg from 200+ meters away with only a pixel of your head showing. I can't count how many times I've been 400+ meters away with a sniper only for a PC player to full auto me at that distance without missing a single bullet.... But WaH... Aim assist

No controller player can full auto anyone at a fraction of the distances PC players kill me at. Literally strafing back and forth like a madman laying on the trigger and never miss a single bullet

[pine roost]

that's why they are addressing spread

[gleaming oriole]

I hope so. They need to nerf Mackay while they're at it. Really just need to remove that fucking grappling hook all together

[shell ermine]

They need to give everyone MacKay's aim movement speed

[pine roost]

Most of the specialist gadgets never should have been introduced in my personal opinion

[gleaming oriole]

He can move faster while aiming while he's crouched than any character can move while aiming standing up

[shell ermine]

Like I said, give everyone his aim movement speed

Don't nerf his

[pine roost]

they tried that a while ago but it's hardly noticeble, I hope they commit to doing that in future

[shell ermine]

Idk what it is with devs today making aim movement speed as slow as walking through molasses

COD has this problem too now

[gleaming oriole]

I don't care about his strafe speed. I don't like how they rework maps and add cover and key choke points to balance attack and defense and he can just bypass all of it.

[shell ermine]

I only play as MacKay, unless I'm doing a challenge, solely because of the aim movement speed. Everyone else feels like ass

[pine roost]

movement abilities like his just ruin any sense of map flow and consistency

[gleaming oriole]

I hate how they removed all the ziplines and stuff to get him off of roofs and container stacks.

[shell ermine]

The maps need to actually have flow to begin with to be ruined

[gleaming oriole]

At least Sundance has to get altitude.

[pine roost]

while I absolutely adore grapple hooks in most games, battlefield's map design is less like an arena and more of a set of paths to take

[shell ermine]

Worst maps in franchise history in this game

Even with the adjustments

[pine roost]

yeah sundance is a bit fairer since you need altitude first, which is based on the map's design and can be controlled. mackay just neuters that

[gleaming oriole]

Without Mackay being able to bypass all key cover they do. He's the one who fucks map flow.

[shell ermine]

Half of the geometry in most maps is indestructible shipping containers. If the game actually had meaningful destruction it wouldn't be as big of an issue

[gleaming oriole]

Since you main him your point of view makes sense. If you couldn't just grapple over anything and everything at will I garuntee your view of the maps would change. Mackay is the problem with most maps.

[pine roost]

When mackay could use spawn beacons is when everything felt so darn chaotic and unpredictable

[gleaming oriole]

Literally everyone played as angel and Mackay. Angel could rez, give armor and ammo and heal plus equip a launcher. And Mackay could put spawn beacons down. Two OPs could cover all 4 class roles.

[shell ermine]

Specialists existing is one big reason why 2042 will never be a good Battlefield game

[gleaming oriole]

I think it's fun despite it's issues. But it can def be a lot better

[pine roost]

many things I like about it despite it's shortcomings

[gleaming oriole]

I just hope they go back to the Battlefield 4 style of game with the next entry

[shell ermine]

The whiplash going from the mechanically best Battlefield game in V to the open septic tank that is 2042 is nuts

[gleaming oriole]

Like I hated BF1 and BF5. The sweet spot mechanic with snipers killed those games for me especially when they made the maps linear as hell

[shell ermine]

2042 is a compenent shooter now but it's still the worst mainline Battlefield game

Sweet spot wasn't in BFV

Honestly BF1 is the second worst Battlefield imo

[gleaming oriole]

Yes it was. BF1 and BFV are the only two games where you could one tap to the body with snipers

That's because of the sweet spot mechanic

[fervent rose]

bfv didnt have sweet spot

only the panzerbusche and boys AT one shot to the chest

[gleaming oriole]

Yes it did. You didn't have to aim for the head at all in BFV. I only sniped in both. I never aimed for the head and one tapped everyone I shot.

[fervent rose]

no, it didnt

[pine roost]

it wasn't a think in V

I can assure you that

[fervent rose]

i dont know how to explain it more than: you are wrong

[shell ermine]

V is my most played BF by far. It wasn't in the game

[fervent rose]

dunno where you got the idea that bfv had sweet spot because it simply doesnt

load up the game right now

stop arguing with me and prove it

or shut up

[pine roost]

you can even look up sym yourself and see it doesn't exist

[gleaming oriole]

Ok yo. I forgot you know absolutely everything and nobody else knows anything even though I played the damn game and know for a fact I only body shot people and got one shots every time I pulled the trigger. Not like I experienced what I'm talking about

[fervent rose]

i do know that bfv has no sweet spot

i played with the lee enfield and krag rifles enough to know that

[tacit sphinx]

lol

yeah the only weapons that could one shot to the body were anti materiel rifles

[fervent rose]

you had to be prone with BoysAT/Panzerbusche to one shot to the chest

[tacit sphinx]

(and shotguns i guess but kind of hard to mix up an m1897 and a bolt action)

[pine roost]

bfv vs bf1

[gleaming oriole]

Ok man I'm not arguing. As I said. I've played the game and I know for a fact I one tapped people to the body constantly with every sniper in game. I never cared to headshot anyone because you legit didn't have to.

[fervent rose]

you are arguing

and you're fucking wrong

dunno how you can be so obstinate about something that didnt exist

[tacit sphinx]

idk what to say maybe you were on a double damage server or maybe you managed to exclusively target people on low health

[pine roost]

well one shot bodyshots don't exist so I've got no idea what you were experiencing

[tacit sphinx]

but it’s like not a matter of opinion or some shit it objectively and verifiably did not have sweet spot or OHK snipers (outside of obviously headshots)

[gleaming oriole]

Dude go fuck yourself. You've literally been shown video proof of shit and you still sat here calling video evidence wrong. Even with proof you'll still sit here insulting people like you're this omnipotent being or some shit. Fuck you

[fervent rose]

when did that ever happen

[spare quest]

[tacit sphinx]

what

[spare quest]

Whats wrong with this kid

[fervent rose]

he's angry with me because i've called him out on his bullshit before

he doesnt like that

[gleaming oriole]

Yo is a fucking troll and does nothing but start shit. Dude has literally been proven wrong on multiple occasions with video evidence and will still sit here and call people wrong....

[fervent rose]

absolutely not reality^

[tacit sphinx]

battlefield V did not have a sweet spot mechanic

[fervent rose]

again hjall with another L

[tacit sphinx]

this isnt a thing to be argued lol it just didnt

[spare quest]

Maybe he played too much hardcore

[left hollow]

Hello

[tacit sphinx]

idk where the video evidence is but here’s photo evidence ig

[fervent rose]

"dude has been proven wrong with video evidence" my man is dreaming

[gleaming oriole]

My dude nothing involving you is an L.

[pine roost]

well we have proof here that you are wrong in this case so I don't know what to say

[fervent rose]

Correct it's all W's when I'm involved

thank you

[gleaming oriole]

No it's not. You literally looked at video proof stuff has happened and sat here arguing it was impossible with video proof in front of you. You literally think you're infallible.

[fervent rose]

When did that happen

you cant even mention what it was about because it didnt happen

[tacit sphinx]

sorry is this an earlier discussion or

[fervent rose]

not one i recall

[gleaming oriole]

Multiple times. As I said I'm done talking to you. Your nothing more than a troll with an over inflated ego. Blow me.

[fervent rose]

I'm not a troll, you're a whiner who doesn't know what you're talking about

just earlier you said you cant count how many times you've been beamed at 400+m in 2042 by full auto guns

hilarious

400 beams

hahahahaa

[gleaming oriole]

Yes. There been multiple different instances of me saying stuff for him to come in and call me a liar only to be given video proof it happened only to still sit here and act like he's right and everyone else is wrong. I've blocked him. I'm done with his shit day after day.

[fervent rose]

^ false information

[tacit sphinx]

ok

there is still no sweet spot mechanic in bfv

this isnt people lying to you it just. is how the game is

[stray surge]

Why is my game crashing?

[gleaming oriole]

Ok. Then explain why every sniper one tapped to the body? Only thing that would explain that is the sweet spot. That mechanic is the reason I stopped playing the game. Because snipers were literally everywhere and dominated at every engagement range because of the one shot body shot. You honestly going to sit here and tell me I just made up and imagined a whole year of playing the damn game?

[pine roost]

well yes, because it doesn't exist

[spare quest]

Bruh

[pine roost]

maybe you found yourself on a server with amplified damage

[fervent rose]

man played cod vanguard and thinks he played bfv or something

how can you be so wrong?

[tacit sphinx]

i mean i guess so

[pine roost]

but no sniper oneshot body shot aside from the AT rifles, not even at point blank

[gleaming oriole]

For every single match I ever played?

[tacit sphinx]

genuinely how is this an argument lmao

[pine roost]

I honestly don't know what you experienced but it 100% was not a sweet spot

[spare quest]

Hjall is clearly a troll

[fervent rose]

no i dont think so lmao

he blocked me like a sensitive person would

trolls dont block

[spare quest]

Good point

[gleaming oriole]

Dude I'm done with this server. Lol I've had people tell me sweet spot wasn't a thing in BF1. Every time I bring anything up I get ganged up on when I know for a fact I experienced what I did. Whatever I say there's always a group of people on here that's gonna call me a liar.

[tacit sphinx]

no one is saying bf1 didn’t have sweet spot lmfao

it did

bfv did not

[fervent rose]

"why do people keep telling me i'm wrong when i say wrong things!?!?!"

[gleaming oriole]

I've had people say it

[pine roost]

then they are stupid and denying the facts. Like you are denying the fact that it doesn't exist in bfv

it simply isn't a thing

[tacit sphinx]

i’ve had people say bfv had sweet spot when it didn’t 🤷‍♂️

[fervent rose]

nobody here would ever say bf1 didnt have sweet spot

[pine roost]

period

[gleaming oriole]

I've complained about it only to be told it didn't exist and be jumped on just like y'all are doing now.

[fervent rose]

it's the most common complaint about bf1

[tacit sphinx]

because it fucking didnt

[fervent rose]

sweet spot

[tacit sphinx]

good lord

[fervent rose]

"jumped on" by facts

[pine roost]

bf1 - does exist, even if people say it didn't, it did.
bfv - doesn't exist, never has, never will

was it you doing the shooting in this scenario or you being shot at?

[gleaming oriole]

In 2042 I've been full auto beamed to the head with an smg with ironsights at well over 300 meters away. Was called a liar. Posted a video with proof. Was still called a liar. So fuck all of you at this point.

[fervent rose]

does it matter?

[tacit sphinx]

a few rifles in bf1 didn’t have a sweet spot which could have been what was talked about

no weapon in bfv had a sweet spot so i don’t know what you’re talking about

[pine roost]

could I see the vid?

[tacit sphinx]

once again this is just like an objective and pretty easily verifiable fact lol

[fervent rose]

haha now the fuck you is extended to the rest of you folks

[upbeat glen]

where do i go for tech support? After the new update my game wont boot past anti cheat

[gleaming oriole]

Don't have it anymore. Deleted it after I posted it

[pine roost]

have you tried repairing files?

[gleaming oriole]

I only clipped it to show as proof

[upbeat glen]

Yes and reinstalled the game, tried clearing ea cache as well

[spare quest]

Sure

[pine roost]

I've killed people from 100m out with full auto assault rifles but 300m is nigh on impossible

[fervent rose]

the only way somebody gets full auto beamed by a smg in 2042 at 300 is a cheater being in the game

[pine roost]

with an smg no less

[gleaming oriole]

Happens at least once in almost every match I play. It's why I want crossplay gone.

[fervent rose]

Ha

[pine roost]

record another clip when you get the chance, I wanna see it

[gleaming oriole]

Got you.

[pine roost]

if anything it could just be a bug that displays the wrong weapon type :/
I've had some funny ones when the game came out

[tacit sphinx]

could you also go and find some footage of this apparent one shot sniper mechanic bfv had that no one else has heard of

[gleaming oriole]

I've had my fill of battlefield for the day though. Last match I played I was getting beamed no matter where I went and what I did. Fucking strafing like a crackhead in every single direction yet can land every bullet just laying on the trigger from well over 100 meters. Shit gets old

[pine roost]

without video evidence there's not much we can do

[fervent rose]

"strafing like a crackhead" why do bad players insist on phrases like this? players who use their movement inputs are on drugs apparently

[gleaming oriole]

Dude I'm done talking about it. Even if I did provide any evidence youd still sit here saying I'm wrong like every other time I've provided proof

[fervent rose]

god forbid you try to not get shot in a pvp shooter game

[spare quest]

Where‘s the video evidence that bfv has sweetspot

[gleaming oriole]

I don't give a shit anymore

[spare quest]

Becaue you are lying

[stray surge]

I'm having a strange experience. I haven't been on in 3 days and today the game is stuck on connecting to online services, it's an infinite loop.

[fervent rose]

repair game files

[stray surge]

I'm on the Xbox

[fervent rose]

then reinstall if that doesnt work

[gleaming oriole]

Go fuck yourself.

[spare quest]

Clear ea app cache and 2042 cache

[tacit sphinx]

i don’t believe i’ve ever spoken to you
and yeah if i’m honest i probably would find it pretty hard to believe considering i have like 900 hours in bfv lol

[stray surge]

I can try reinstalling but this is very strange

[gleaming oriole]

Happens sometimes when you have a moderate nat.

[pine roost]

I mean so far you've made a claim that has been disproven, it's not people ganging up on your it's just us stating a fact. What you've experienced must be caused by something else because it simply isn't possible. If we could see some footage we can see what's actually going on

[stray surge]

My connection is open

[gleaming oriole]

You can't disprove something I experienced first hand in game. You can say it doesn't exist. you can provide all the charts and shit... That doesn't change what I personally experienced in game.

[pine roost]

yeah so I want to see what it is you've experienced to figure out what is actually happening.

Because based on all the concrete evidence supplied by multiple sources, what you've experienced isn't possible

[tacit sphinx]

i mean this is what one guy says he experienced vs multiple other people and the numbers directly from the game and the code of the game say

[pine roost]

therefore there must be some other explanation

[gleaming oriole]

I haven't played BFV in years. I quit playing before the Pacific dlc dropped

[gleaming oriole]

You have no clue what the game code says because you don't have access to it.

None of us do

[tacit sphinx]

i can pretty confidently say there’s no sweet spot mechanic though

[pine roost]

we don't have game code but we can perform tests, which the guys over at sym have done

[tacit sphinx]

perhaps a dick move to look up stats and compare them but your xbox is displayed on your profile and like. what they say and what you say don’t add up

[pine roost]

and in all my time playing there has never been an instance where I've killed someone or died to someone instantly due to a sweet spot

[tacit sphinx]

it was in fact something quite commonly asked for because it was seen as being missing moving from bf1 by some people

[fervent rose]

i genuinely cannot believe this guy is still going on about bfv sweet spot

a thing that did not exist

[gleaming oriole]

My dude I said I haven't played in years since before the Pacific dlc. Which for one you can't stat check. For two you also can't stat check for one taps. It's not something you can even look up. So idk how you're able to see stats that aren't tracked and never have been.

[tacit sphinx]

what

[fervent rose]

we're going on 40 minutes of this dumbass conversation

[tacit sphinx]

if it was one hit kills then shots hit would be the same as kills lol

[patent path]

there is no sweet spot in bf5

[tacit sphinx]

you also have played since the pacific but tbf only like ten matches overall here and there so i’ll let you off on that one lol

[patent path]

what are we arguing about again

[tacit sphinx]

extremely verifiable nugget of information that apaprently everyone decided to collectively lie about because that’s simpler than one guy being wrong

[left hollow]

This has been going on for ages

[patent path]

is this about sweet spot in bf5?

because it doesn't exist

[wise zodiac]

What am I reading?

[fervent rose]

40 minutes of a man refusing to accept that he's wrong about something really basic

[wise zodiac]

Can I get the tldr, @tacit sphinx?

[gleaming oriole]

You just claimed you stay checked my battlefield and that the stats you saw don't line up with what I said ... You can't look up the last time someone played and you can't see how many one taps they have .... And also no not really. Because hitting an arm or leg wouldn't result in a one shot regardless. so the hit to kill ratio doesn't really mean anything

[fervent rose]

hjall insists theres bfv sweet spot for recon Rev

a thing that doesnt exist

[tacit sphinx]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/xbl/Hjallbjorn/

[pine roost]

Hjall says that he kept getting oneshot body shot by snipers every match in bfv or something, which by all accounts is simply not possible

[tacit sphinx]

it’s all on there

[pine roost]

I feel like something else is at play because the sweet spot simply doesn't exist

[tacit sphinx]

yeah pretty much this except apparently everyone is lying to him rather than him being simply wrong lol

in less strong words

[wise zodiac]

I mean the only way you're getting one-shot with small arms is if you're in a certain distance with either a shotgun or a certain distance with a bolt action rifle (or AT gun), or get shot in the face.

[gleaming oriole]

Yeah bro. Because I simply imagined every match I played.

[wise zodiac]

Unless I'm completely misreading what's going on

[pine roost]

changed the message to be more specific

[wise zodiac]

[tacit sphinx]

for the record i don’t really like bringing up someone’s stats for an argument but i was just curious

[tacit sphinx]

so no one else stumbled across this mechanic? in probably a cumulative of over a thousand hours vs your 50?

[wise zodiac]

I mean, unless he's getting shot in the head.. or if he's in like 50m of the person, he's getting two shot.

[gleaming oriole]

They're saying getting one tapped to the body in BFV is legitimately impossible. I'm lying and there's absolutely no way it ever happened.

[fervent rose]

every once in a while you get two shot by separate people at the same time

[tacit sphinx]

i mean… yes, that is how the game worked

[wise zodiac]

I mean, each bolt action rifle has different damage outputs at range.

[pine roost]

even then no snipers beside the AT rifles can oneshot bodyshot up close

[fervent rose]

thats the only way i can see being confused by that..

[gleaming oriole]

Bro a mod literally just said you could get one tapped within 50m... So he's full of shit too huh?

[tacit sphinx]

there are two weapons that can do that, the AMRs

[gleaming oriole]

I love how someone else a mod even just confirmed what I'm saying is possible and you're still saying I'm wrong. See. Like I said even with proof or other people you still would say were lying

[fervent rose]

if a mod insists there was a regular bolt action that 1 shots to the chest in bfv, yes they are wrong too

them being a mod doesnt matter

[wise zodiac]

Except I didn't.

[fervent rose]

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-win-pines-gravity-falls-grunkle-stan-gif-12897342

[chilly jacinth]

selective reading moment

[gleaming oriole]

Bro I'm telling you this and then I'm blocking you again. Shut up. Stop trying to talk to me.

[tacit sphinx]

you haven’t given any proof though
on the flip side you have been offered stat charts taken directly from the game and a wealth of direct experience + footage at your fingertips by looking up “bfv sniper gameplay” on youtube but here we are

[wise zodiac]

Damage values for the rifles. No bolt action rifle does 100% damage output.

[fervent rose]

lmao go ahead and unblock me to talk shit and re block

what a funny lad

[tacit sphinx]

fwiw this was already shown and uh idk what happened to it

didn’t agree with it i guess

[wise zodiac]

Well, I have it.

[wise zodiac]

@gleaming oriole,

These charts show the only two weapons that will one tap are the Boys & 'busche. Outside of that, you are not getting one tapped by a bolt rifle.

[gleaming oriole]

You literally said you could die to one shot within 50m now you're changing you're story. Ok cool shit bro.

[wise zodiac]

No, I actually didnt.

If you're getting shot in the head = one shot

[fervent rose]

reading comprehension is tough

[wise zodiac]

If you're in 50 meters = two shot

[patent path]

[tacit sphinx]

has anyone heard of occams razor

[fervent rose]

the meters doesnt even matter, snipers 2 shot to the body at 5m

they do at 30m and 50m and 200m

[wise zodiac]

The very first image literally confirms that between 0-50 meters, you're getting two shot.

And after 50m, you're still also getting two shot.

The second image, from 0-100m, you're getting one tapped by a Boys/Busche.

Then it drops off, and you're getting two hit by those.

unless you're getting headshot.

[solid imp]

Oh... The underlined markdown is out now.

[fervent rose]

unfortunately using sym's weapon page doesnt really prove anything about sweet spot

[wise zodiac]

@solid imp yessir

[gleaming oriole]

Dude I genuinely don't give a shit anymore. I don't. As I've said. I could say something with proof of it happening and I'd still be called a liar. So i don't give a shit. Why should I care about any proof you have when if I Did have proof you'd deny mine.

[fervent rose]

however we all played bfv

there's no sweet spot

[wise zodiac]

UwU

[solid imp]

I didn't play much bfv, I personally couldn't stand the feel of it so I don't have a dog in this fight

[tawny carbon]

Mods out here speaking Facts, uwu

[pine roost]

looked back at my bfv clips while discussing this and man it makes me want to play it again

I think I've taken a long enough break from bf now

[patent path]

bro couldn't have thought that he simply one shot someone over 100 meters because they weren't at full hp

[wise zodiac]

We're telling you it's mechanically impossible.

We're not saying we don't believe you, we're saying it physically cannot happen because the games damage values are not coded for sniper rifles to one hit kill.

[gleaming oriole]

Never said that wasn't a possibility.

[patent path]

especially when in bf5 you didn't heal to full hp without med kits

then why the fuck are you guys arguing

[tacit sphinx]

the bf1 page has the sweet spot represented

[fervent rose]

hey you're right

i was wrong

see how easy that is?

[gleaming oriole]

Oh getting headshot through the map by some dude laying in his deployment with an LMG is mechanically impossible too. Yet I've had it happen.

[next onyx]

Oh yeah I'm gonna take this as a compliment.

[tawny carbon]

Same here, it happened before

[gleaming oriole]

Because rather than discuss any possibilities I was just called a liar from the jump and ganged up on.

[next onyx]

(Bullet hit the head it's still possible for the headshot to register)

[pine roost]

I once got a cheeky snipe through a bush that you wouldn't like

[next onyx]

It's literally not mechanically impossible.

Dude I keep violating these people with the RPL-20 as a Boris.

And then I go play as Zain and I violate the Boris's even harder.

[pine roost]

[copper ice]

Have they buffed boris yet

[next onyx]

Please don't take that literally I am not what you think.

[gleaming oriole]

Zain is very powerful especially with his health regen

[next onyx]

I'm just some battlefield junkie.

[copper ice]

Joke question, hell clearly has not frozen over

[solid imp]

Boris has had a hard enough life, that man needs a buff

[next onyx]

Ironically though.

I like playing as him.

He's... Weird.

Just sending RPG's up peoples asses.

[copper ice]

I would love to enjoy rpg man

[copper ice]

Unfortunately he has an empty gadget slot that they don't allow you to fill

[gleaming oriole]

I've been playing Boris since I got Lis to T1... I'm having fun tbh but he does need a buff

[copper ice]

[next onyx]

Nothing makes me so mad than sending an RPG into a hind and it survives on one health, Then a teammate steals it.

[frigid violet]

Teamwork!

[pine roost]

if they did some mild reworking of his kit that would be ideal.

[next onyx]

Makes me actually want to detatch the keys from my keyboard and press the D key hard into my forehead.

[wise zodiac]

[next onyx]

Spot the RM nerd on the other side.

[fervent rose]

there need to be more ammo crates on the field. And boris also needs a passive rework

[gleaming oriole]

His turret is spotty. I have issues with mine shooting shit directly in front of it but it seems like Boris turrets will lock onto me from across the map

[copper ice]

Change his passive to give extra launcher ammo, change turret to have severely reduced range but increased damage so it can function like c5/AT mine; boris needs this as the one slot he has is filled with a launcher and the other slot is a fucking useless turret instead of c5/mine

[next onyx]

Dude was laying down and took 5.45 to the head.

[frigid violet]

What we really need a is “Recruit” class a la siege but he would have two gadget slots and can use any gadget. No weapon bonuses. Bot RU/US skins

[pine roost]

They buffed it’s range a while back but nerfed it’s damage, that’s the thing though with turrets like that, it just does what it wants

[fervent rose]

having players hiding in bot skins is a terrible idea

[solid imp]

My survey response reads:

Option 1: Give his turret different ammo types which the player can swap between with a + menu
Option 2: Allow Boris to choose between multiple turret types upon deployment, functionally the same way Irish chooses between shield/APS. Possible selections could be AA Mine, short-range (10-15m) incendiary launcher, or standard rounds like the current version.
Option 3: Give the player remote control of the turret

[chilly jacinth]

lmao

[pine roost]

It’s funny sometimes seeing someone hiding somewhere and you just scare them to death

[copper ice]

lis is the AA engie, crawford is the repair engie, it makes sense for boris to be the AT engie; unfortunately he's just a pile of shit they refuse to buff because they don't know what to do with him

[frigid violet]

Skins don’t matter

[fervent rose]

they do, i see a bot i know its a bot

[solid imp]

Also Boris' turret should deploy with a built-in shield to cover it's front 180 arc so only the barrel is poking through

[copper ice]

We don't need a remote controlled shielded crawford

[solid imp]

We do

[frigid violet]

You sound like those clowns who whined about not being able to tell friend from foe due to the specialists all looking the same

[solid imp]

[gleaming oriole]

I think it's vehicle damage needs to increase personally. I don't like the idea of an automated infantry killer.... It's essentially just a stationary ranger at that point

[copper ice]

[ebon pilot]

severely reduced range
you can literally just run up to it and melee it to destroy it today

[fervent rose]

that's a genuine issue with the game sometimes. and they also added red/green lights after those complaints

[solid imp]

Dozer can disregard every turret

[copper ice]

I forgot to mention it only should attack vehicles

[solid imp]

oof

[copper ice]

because he's fucking anti vehicle class

[solid imp]

crawford vulcan should do 0 damage to infantry..??? 👀

[copper ice]

shooting humans for 6 damage per bullet is not helpful when your c5 slot is filled with this dogshit gadget instead

[gleaming oriole]

Idk. Lol I die through my shield nonstop. Then I see enemy dozers eating tank shells

[copper ice]

Crawford is gimped enough by having the headshot hole on his gatling gun

[solid imp]

if every anti vehicle class did 0 damage to infantry with their specialty/gadget that would be pretty rough

[fervent rose]

crawford turret is one of those things where if its buffed, it's hella obnoxious

[copper ice]

Boris essentially already does 0 damage to infantry AND vehicles

[solid imp]

exactly-- let's make him viable

[copper ice]

I have never been killed nor killed with a boris turret

[fervent rose]

like launch boris turret was hella obnoxious

[solid imp]

oh wut... that's happened plenty but it's still tough to do on demand

[gleaming oriole]

That's his only weakness. A turret with the massive hp pool his has would slaughter if he couldn't get capped out of it.

[copper ice]

its got a silly amount of health

[dusk falcon]

boris turrets are just annoying at the moment, like im flanking and this thing takes my 20 hp but everyone now knows im there

[gleaming oriole]

We are talking about Crawford right?

[solid imp]

but let's put that in the category of 2042 overall having a lot of spotting mechanisms

[copper ice]

I'm talking about boris mostly

Crawford I don't think is good but is viable

Boris is not

[fervent rose]

boris needs anti tank buffs. crawford doesnt because he's a repair man

[patent path]

you can spawn at your squad's Crawford minigun? this is new

[copper ice]

Useless passive and functionally useless gadget

[solid imp]

it's really just spawning on him

[gleaming oriole]

Oh Boris turrets is made of paper. I'm talking about Crawford's Vulcan... Shit has a ton of hp

[solid imp]

the vehicle spawn icon is misleading

[patent path]

oh, lmao

[solid imp]

at least I think... unless crawford really does let you disregard being "in combat" or such... 👀 now I want to test it

[copper ice]

The only two specs in the game that have access to launchers (lis gets her own thing) are crawford and boris; crawford is clearly repair and defence focused, so it makes sense for boris to be more aggressive. he can't do this because his passive is literally useless and his gadget is functionally useless

[next onyx]

Like Dozers shield! Which has no sense of balance!

[solid imp]

wym it's balanced fine

[fervent rose]

well it was balanced better before

but riot shields in fps games.. ugh

[copper ice]

From a design standpoint boris requires his gadget to fulfill the c5/at mine role because he can't take those alongside rpg

[patent path]

Crawford's minigun needs more hp imo

[solid imp]

yeah but it's another case of FPS needing to balance something in which is inherently really really hard to balance in

[gleaming oriole]

I think dozers shield is iffy. sometimes you can run through everything and then other you die through your shield.

[solid imp]

like sniper rifles at all

riot shields, turrets

[fervent rose]

gotta give the casuals their haha bonk class

[next onyx]

I don't mind shields in first person shooters.

[solid imp]

👀 vehicles 👀

[copper ice]

those dozer buffs looked scary in the patch notes

[next onyx]

It's just that Dozer's shield is bullshit.

YAY ONE HIT KILL.

Hey guys lets encourage idiots to rush in with a shield instead of using a shield to actually cover teammates.

How about that.

[solid imp]

yeah but you have to do a fair bit of work to get there to make those kills

[next onyx]

You barely have to do anything.

Throw down smoke.

[gleaming oriole]

If it were two hits you'd never get a kill with it though.

[next onyx]

Run in like a fucking dumbass and you're rewarded with a multikill.

This game is fucking braindead cunt.

[solid imp]

[next onyx]

Jesus christr.

[dusk falcon]

then reduce the range

[solid imp]

Way is at the end of a long day

[dusk falcon]

rn the range is too big for the shield

[solid imp]

it does reach pretty far, range could be pulled in for sure

[fervent rose]

yea dozer's gameplay loop of run at people and 1 shot them with melee is pretty fucking dumb

[patent path]

dozer should be 2 hit kill for sure, 1 hit is kinda op

[next onyx]

They need to reduce its damage and encourage people to use his shield to protect teammates over an offensive attacking tool.

[fervent rose]

specialists were and are an awful thing

[copper ice]

the counter to dozer being, uh, hope you have an ally

[dusk falcon]

dozer is the most fun you can have in this game rn seriously, especially bonking snipers

[solid imp]

But now see I've asked for adding in things like people tapping E to match Dozer speed with the shield up and was told "But iTz NoT SiEgE"

That would be a good "block for your teammates" mechanic

[copper ice]

if you dont 180 sprint away from dozer you get bonked, if you 180 sprint away from dozer you get shot in the back

[dusk falcon]

nah decrease the range

2 hit he'll be useless

[fervent rose]

no the running away part is easy

you just 180 slide bhop backwards over and over

i've practically never died to a dozer that way

[patent path]

he's not useless he literally has a shield that deflects bullets back to the shooter

[copper ice]

playing as dozer prebuff was some of the most powerful I ever felt in 2042 given we were in a section of the map that wasnt made poorly

[dusk falcon]

and then melee since the takedown range is suprrisingly big

[copper ice]

(This is a big give)

[fervent rose]

no i mean you're running directly away from him

he's slower and cannot catch up

[gleaming oriole]

Yeah his shield would be useless if it required 2 hits.

[fervent rose]

you can slide and bhop away from him while facing him

so you keep a window open to kill him easily

[dusk falcon]

what if the dozer has an am40 and just shoots me while i run away from him

[gleaming oriole]

Yeah not everyone can abuse movement because we don't all have a M&K.

That's not a valid argument to try and say dozer is easy to run from

[dusk falcon]

this aint warzone we cant run circles around people in 0.94635 zeptoseconds

[fervent rose]

you can kinda though

[ebon pilot]

just do a grenade boosted accelerated back hop toward your spawn, call in an LATV, and just run the dozer over

[gleaming oriole]

😂

[gleaming oriole]

This is valid

[fervent rose]

you can either learn how to win or make fun

[dusk falcon]

do it like the quad in the season 5 trailer

they know how its done

[fervent rose]

it's VERY easy to do the moves i described

unless you're a console bot

[next onyx]

Which is what this game caters to.

[fervent rose]

and it's great that we mnk players still get to have fun

[gleaming oriole]

I just don't like dozers inconsistencies. It's wierd right now. Sometimes you're a god and just run through and tank everything.... And others you just drop dead for absolutely no reason because somehow you died through the shield.

[fervent rose]

instead of console player catering removing our fun

[pine roost]

The movement is one thing I really like

[dusk falcon]

im a console player and dice sshould cater more to pc honestly, almost the whole playerbase is pc

most of my games are 75% pc players

[pine roost]

Regardless it just makes it more fun

[gleaming oriole]

You literally have the advantage as a m&k player. Lol you have a massive advantage over anyone not using a M&K

[pine roost]

When there’s more options there are more ways to express yourself in gameplay

[copper ice]

advantage is not the same as fun

[pine roost]

People can still play well on console, Jordy was one of the best controller players I ever knew and he beat countless pc players

[gleaming oriole]

Yeah on the new gen version. Most console players left the new gen to play the old gen version so they could play against other consoles players.

[dusk falcon]

or they went to bf1 or bf4, which is way more likely honestly.

[fervent rose]

and most people still dont "abuse" movement like they could. i rarely see people jump into a directional slide, they almost only ever use it facing forward

[gleaming oriole]

Nah. I have to play the old gen version to play with a few of my friends. The old gen version of 2042 is beyond thriving.

[next onyx]

It would be nice if things in this game just weren't so cheesy.

[dusk falcon]

bring back the end of round lines and it will become a full on grilled cheese sandwich

[copper ice]

how are your squats feeling lately

[dusk falcon]

god those were some dark times

[gleaming oriole]

I can play any more any time of day on the old gen version and it's full lobies with zero bots at all times

[dusk falcon]

can you play old gen on xbox series x?

[gleaming oriole]

Yep

[dusk falcon]

fr???

downloading rn

[fervent rose]

it really is cheesefield

[gleaming oriole]

Yes. It's playstation Xbox crossplay only

[copper ice]

im pretty sure most people still haven't updated to next gen

[dusk falcon]

does your level and account progress copy bewteen gens?

or is it a different account for each game

[copper ice]

"Next" gen

[fervent rose]

definitely not, theres like 120m ps4's sold

and less than 20m ps5s made so far i think

[next onyx]

Hmm yes Lets fix the game by adding more content and making specialists even more obnoxious.

[fervent rose]

Add TOR, Add Zain

Add sph

CHEESE IT UP

[gleaming oriole]

I talk in team chat a lot and most people are playing on new gen. They just don't play the new gen version because they don't wanna play with PC. That's why the new gen is dominantly PC players. All the console players left to play the old gen so they only play other console players.

[fervent rose]

add cheese secondary shotgun

[idle lion]

who in their right mind keeps putting 128 rush on FNB even though theres not enough players to even fulfill 1 server

[next onyx]

It's on 128 rush wot. Oh well.

I'm in one.

SCAR ripping into people.

[idle lion]

is it full?

[dusk falcon]

1. its 64 players 2. ive always found full servers on offcial rush xl

[next onyx]

By the way, Yo.

[gleaming oriole]

Yes everything is the same across the two versions. You can go back to new gen and keep all progress made and vice versa

[next onyx]

The SCAR despite getting worse off spread is better cause of MB.

[dusk falcon]

damnnnnnnnnnnnnn why did no one tell me sooner

[idle lion]

i havent been able to find any this and previous week

[fervent rose]

sorry mb?

[next onyx]

microbrust.

[gleaming oriole]

I've said it quite a bit. There's some differences between the versions though. Particularly the map layouts

[fervent rose]

yea i suppose

[dusk falcon]

i mean its for 64 players tho

of course theyll be different

[fervent rose]

i think the scar has really funny IRM numbers compared to the rest of the guns

another weird balance discrepancy

[gleaming oriole]

I think the old gen version is better. New gen looks better but old gen is much more fun because matches are actually fair

[next onyx]

Doesn't really matter anyways cause the RM with the short barrel is STILL better.

[gleaming oriole]

The visual recoil can look wierd sometimes but the guns actually have recoil in the old gen version too

[next onyx]

Like really.

[copper ice]

I'd love to play pc only but forced crossplay is a bitch

Every time I've turned it off there were literally no PC only games available

[pine roost]

dang, first match of bfv and I see a cheater. that's the 4th i've seen through my entire time playing. F

[fervent rose]

game's absolutely infested

[pine roost]

I didn't realise it was that bad

[fervent rose]

i think ive seen upwards of 500 cheaters on bfv over my time

maybe more

[pine roost]

all the tdm lobbies are full too which is a pain

[gleaming oriole]

Because PC players want crossplay. It benefits them. They have an unfair advantage and can stomp all day with little to no consequence. There's a reason you don't see many console players... They all left for the old gen version. If the old gen version didn't exist... The game would be 100% dead

[pine roost]

depends what type of player they are

I for one would rather play on a level playing field

[copper ice]

tbh i think it's mostly because it's on by default and the average player doesn't even check the settings menu

[fervent rose]

personally i think bfv pc only was more fun but crossplay is needed for 2042 because of the even lower player counts

[copper ice]

^

[gleaming oriole]

I didn't mean all PC players are like that. But a lot on this server are.

[fervent rose]

and the avg pc player is not good

[copper ice]

There's definitely people that like stomping, but the average player (the like 90% that fill up player numbers) just hit matchmaking and play whatever they're given

[fervent rose]

more aware due to more headset usage but thats about it

[copper ice]

To have literally 0 pc servers without crossplay is indicatory of a playerbase that doesn't give a shit

[pine roost]

honestly I'd rather go up against better players than ones worse than I am

a good mix of skill helps you feel like you are progressing while providing some challenge

[gleaming oriole]

I can agree somewhat. Nobody is going to fight against and turn down free wins. If you know you're at an advantage and you're going to stomp most people won't complain if they aren't on the receiving end of it.

[cosmic dragon]

is it bad that i only play hardcore on bf4

[fervent rose]

no (yes)

but you do you

[gleaming oriole]

No. Not really

[cosmic dragon]

i kinda like the quicker ttk

[gleaming oriole]

I agree with you 100%>

[gleaming oriole]

I thought BF4 was already pretty fast ttk wise. Hardcore wasn't really necessary imo

[next onyx]

Crossplay just means more players to play against.

Really that's all we want.

[fervent rose]

I'd love it if DICE made a good enough game that crossplay on Launch wasnt necessary

but i dont want another bfv situation with basically no servers

[gleaming oriole]

You do realize if the old gen version didn't exist all you'd have left playing is PC players. That version is the only reason the console playerbase is even active.

[chilly jacinth]

huh

[fervent rose]

when i hit scoreboard i constantly see console player icons

[pine roost]

If the old gen version didn’t exist it wouldn’t affect any pc players in the slightest

[gleaming oriole]

Yeah there's a few playing new gen but a majority of the new gen player pool is PC. Because all the console players either quit or went to the old gen so they had fair matches.

[chilly jacinth]

what

[next onyx]

You say that as if it's the sole reason. There's also the thing that people have theirt xbox one's and ps4's still because they can't be bothered moving on.

Really that's just it.

[fervent rose]

someone post the source: i made it up gif

[next onyx]

Plenty of people I know sit in next gen.

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[next onyx]

Plenty of people that I know from xbox.

[gleaming oriole]

More people are on new gen than you think.

[pine roost]

Or can’t get the console itself

[idle lion]

i mean, if youve ever taken a look at your squadmates platforms...

its mostly pc

[next onyx]

You say that but than again, The majority of xbox players that I know from bf5 days are on next gen.

[chilly jacinth]

i always get put in with a mix of people

on pc

[next onyx]

Yeah same.

[fervent rose]

it's always a mix for me too

i RARELY have a 4 pc player squad

[idle lion]

i have too many

[next onyx]

I don't really tend to notice or care for the amount of players on a specific platform on the other side.

[chilly jacinth]

more often than not i have 3 console peeps

[next onyx]

Console or PC I farm anyways.

[gleaming oriole]

Anytime I play new gen regardless of day or time at least 80% of the lobby is PC players.

[next onyx]

and I see plenty of console players.

[gleaming oriole]

I don't.

[fervent rose]

if anything i'm constantly frustrated by my console bot squadmates having zero awareness

[next onyx]

Server just started up.

But it's pretty much how my games go.

[gleaming oriole]

Console bots? Lol you know how many PC players I've seen walk past a pinged enemy and get absolutely shredded. You're an arrogant fucker aren't you

[copper ice]

That's why i wanted no crossplay

console players cant communicate

[idle lion]

i just realized i joined your game, yep nope im leaving

byyeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[fervent rose]

console players almost never react to stuff you type in squad chat

1 out of 1000 times they will

real ai bots do better

[copper ice]

spent match after match after match trying to ask for help and idk if the chatbox is invisible to console players but god it felt like it

[gleaming oriole]

Yeah. No cross platform in game chat and we can't use keyboards to type.. battlefield has no console keyboard support

[copper ice]

If you won't make vehicles soloable then you need to make communication methods for your team

[fervent rose]

you dont need keyboards to read

[gleaming oriole]

You need them to communicate back smart ass

[copper ice]

yeah but if i make people mad and they have a keyboard they read what I'm saying so they can flame me in chat

if they can flame they can read

[next onyx]

You won't get better if you become complacent.

[copper ice]

then you just have to corral them into helping you

[pine roost]

You can’t type on console can you?

[fervent rose]

sure you can

its some in game keyboard thing i think

[copper ice]

"yeah you're so good man sure i bet you can't kill that camping tank lmao"
works every time

[gleaming oriole]

Way there's a difference between playing better players and improving and walking into a genocide.

[copper ice]

well it would if you could kill camping tanks

[next onyx]

I know.

[crude juniper]

hey guys what happaned to the new running animations its back to the old ones?

[gleaming oriole]

There's an in game keypad that you need to navigate with a controller. It's too slow to actually type in chat and communicate accuracy

[fervent rose]

its camera stuff. and its on by default but theres a setting for it in accessibility

[frigid matrix]

Most ignore it or don’t know how to. Im on the X and I’m that chat all the time and reading/reacting to pings and messages. Even coordinating with my teammates/squad mates

[crude juniper]

k will check

[gleaming oriole]

You are an absolute freak of nature. I'm a good player and I would dashboard if I saw you on the enemy team

[frigid matrix]

They also make it complicated to type in the chat for Xbox, plus most don’t have a keyboard attached to their console like I do

[gleaming oriole]

I have one and can't use it.

[copper ice]

Average player doesn't even want to communicate

W + m1

[gleaming oriole]

I can only use my keyboard to type in games with native support for k&m

[copper ice]

well, left stick up and right trigger

[fervent rose]

exactly, the majority of pc players also dont read or respond

so the console players are like talking to a wall

[copper ice]

I normally play games with lower playerbases which tend to be a lot more communicative

[pine roost]

holy moly another one! Someone joined and shut down the entire server!

[copper ice]

Its kind of insane how unresponsive to anything people are in 2042

[fervent rose]

they can get your ip and doxx you too

[copper ice]

I had better luck pinging shit on console in bfv than using the actual text chat in 2042 to try to get anything done

[pine roost]

don't think i'll be playing that then

[copper ice]

console bfv the definitive experience

[gleaming oriole]

Hackers are the main reason console players don't like PC players in the matchmaking pool. There's zero consequences for hacking. Even if you're caught and banned you can just make a new free account and get right back at it

[copper ice]

due to it actually not having hackers

[pine roost]

I can understand that

[fervent rose]

okay but 2042 does not have a rampant cheating problem

[next onyx]

It really actually doesn't.

[ebon pilot]

and then buy the game again?

[fervent rose]

bfv did and 2042 is almost cheater free in comparison

[next onyx]

Which I'm happily able to say.

[pine roost]

I just wanted to play some bfv man

[obtuse harbor]

Turning crossplay off means I can’t find games (I’m on Xbox) - has the player count dropped a lot?

[copper ice]

implying anyone hacking in bfv ever got banned

[gleaming oriole]

You don't need to. As long as you can log into your steam any account on that computer can access those games

[next onyx]

@idle lion I might of domed him in the head with 5.45.

[frigid matrix]

Most are on PC

[fervent rose]

yes the player count is low. everyone plays crossplay on

[obtuse harbor]

Oke doke

Wish there was KBM support

[copper ice]

Crossplay being off means that you only get matched with other people who turned crossplay off; 99.99% of players have crossplay on

[gleaming oriole]

Download the old gen version. Playstation Xbox crossplay only

[obtuse harbor]

Ah why can’t they do this for the new gen version

The mind boggles

What’s the diff between old and new gen tho

I have a series x

[fervent rose]

old gen is 64 player only

[gleaming oriole]

Most of the console playerbase left to the old gen version because of the PC cross play. Old gen version you can queue up for any mode any time and day and servers are packed.

[frigid matrix]

I KNOW. Fortnite and mw2 allow console players to use mouse and keyboard but why can’t 2042 :/

[obtuse harbor]

Nice thanks