battlefield-2042

[eager spire]

well i mean we're over a year into 2042 and it's still not good

[arctic grove]

But when I really think about it BF2042 started stabilizing with technical issues in April 2022 which was 5 months after the game came out

7, if you count the June update which really started getting the ball going

[eager spire]

it's okay but not good.

It has a lot of issues, still.

[ruby saffron]

Its one of my preferred bf games at the moment

[fervent rose]

it has almost reached "release" quality

[ruby saffron]

Id rather play it than 1 or 5, and 4 is beyond dead on my platform

[fervent rose]

still needs squad management

[drowsy shuttle]

Updated Dozer's Mastery requirement from 20 Kills with the SOB-8 Ballistic Shield to 40 Close-distance Kills, to allow for a more varied playstyle with Dozer, but still making sure he gets up close and personal <- finally... time to t1 dozer

[arctic grove]

Only thing I fuckin hate about squad management is the odd chance everyone locked their squad

[eager spire]

That's not stiff competition, though. BF1 and BFV are not great.

[arctic grove]

so I play alone and have no squad mates to spawn on

[fervent rose]

that happens in 2042 too, but not the locking part

[ruby saffron]

I mean is it more fun to me than bc2 or bf3 was? Nah they were goated

But do i still have a lot of fun? Yeah

[drowsy shuttle]

i rather walk than spawn on clueless in the open teammates

[eager spire]

eh, i donno why people think BC2 was fun. Was probably that way in a time before BF3 existed, but eh.

Now it 's just annoying.

[acoustic seal]

i see people defending bf1 in the wild and that's just crazy lmao

[eager spire]

And even BF3 has aged poorly.

[fervent rose]

because it was fun at the time

[arctic grove]

Yesterday while playing Renewal BT my entire squad was camping the roof of the wall thing that cars can go through

[ruby saffron]

Bf1 is so fucking bad

[eager spire]

yeah. absolutely bonkers.

[arctic grove]

was like “wtf are these guys doing”

[ruby saffron]

Im sorry but i cant with that game

[naive quiver]

I cant play the game a week after its released such beautiful

[eager spire]

I donno why people are actually lying to themselves by saying BF1 is a good game

like bruh you're gaslighting yourself.

stop that.

[ruby saffron]

From gameplay id say 1 is the lowest point in the series

[fervent rose]

bf1 is a disaster in gameplay loop

but as a total product it's obvious why casuals love it

[eager spire]

It really says something when literally the only thing people talk about with BF1 after the fact is "oh it looks good"

That's it.

That's all they have to say about it.

[fervent rose]

thats the thing about casuals

[eager spire]

because there's nothing else to talk about.

[ruby saffron]

They claim its “immersive”

[fervent rose]

they do just want a pretty game that sounds good

like bf3

they dont care about gameplay

[naive quiver]

BF1 is a good game compared to many battlefield in history

[spiral folio]

Bf1 had better vehicle balance too

[acoustic seal]

nobody ever talks about the real things bf1 did right, like implementing spread in a way that stopped you from getting AEK'd from narnia

[spiral folio]

And better antitank rifles

[arctic grove]

BF1 gameplay is only a problem for you if you’re really into competitive gaming, which doesn’t happen to be most of this franchises players anyways, it’s a lax game which is fine considering the gaming scene when it came out

[eager spire]

What???

[ruby saffron]

Bf1 made me want to eat sand

[spiral folio]

Bf1 is the only time a large caliber rifle was well represented

Rare and powerful

[eager spire]

BF1 is really like World War 1. It's so much like that time period that I don't want to be there.

[arctic grove]

BF1 was a mix of a passion project for DICE and a golden opportunity brought on by CoDs failure and the general wishes of FPS players in 2016 for “boots on the ground” gameplay and it did well being the more casual friendly game in the franchise

[spiral folio]

Bf1 is about as much ww1 as bf heroes was

[arctic grove]

Some of the best post launch support maps I’ve ever played

[ruby saffron]

The hipfire trench assault guns tho

[fervent rose]

yea bf1 has some dank maps

[ruby saffron]

So ass

[arctic grove]

I’m being deadass too, BF1 is wildly over-exaggerated

[eager spire]

If BF1 is a passion project then their passion must not be to make good video games.

[arctic grove]

[fervent rose]

i'd love to see a few bf1 maps return in a better game

[ruby saffron]

Hardline was more fun than bf1

[eager spire]

Because Hardline played like BF4.

[arctic grove]

oh yeah, that’s why it’s 99% dead lol

[drowsy shuttle]

Smoke grenades now explode underwater, sorry Penguins <- praise the lord.. will be handy in kaleidoscope

[arctic grove]

[spiral folio]

Bf1 wasnt really like ww1 it was more like ww1 flavored

Ww1 inspired

[naive quiver]

I would like to play battlefield 1 if there no Battlefield 5 or battlefield 2042 exists

[ruby saffron]

Hardline was fun as fuck when it came out, great mp

[eager spire]

it's dead because people are fucking petty.

[arctic grove]

I don’t know why anyone would expect BF1 to be an exact reenactment to WW1 tho

[fervent rose]

petty?

[arctic grove]

It’s a video game. It has to strike a theme and gameplay balance

[spiral folio]

One review was like
"BF1 does ww2 better than cod ww2"

Cause bf1 was like all smgs and machineguns

[arctic grove]

People wouldn’t say that about BFV if you couldn’t play females but I digress cause that shit is just a hornets nest

[eager spire]

it's nothing to do with the game itself, people just looked at it and were like "WHAT IS THIS SHIT THIS ISN'T MY BATTLEFIELD #NOTMYBATTLEFIELD GET THIS COPS AND ROBBERS SHIT OUT OF HERE"

[fervent rose]

it was the first battlefield that dice didnt make and it released at a time that basically guaranteed its failure

[eager spire]

It was still a good game.

[fervent rose]

blame visceral for its failure, not gamers

[ruby saffron]

It was a fun game mechanically

[fervent rose]

or EA, whoever forced it to release when it did

[eager spire]

WHY SHOULD I BLAME VISCERAL? They made a good game!

[fervent rose]

because they put the game out in a window where NOBODY wanted to buy it

not smart

[spiral folio]

Nobody but trolls cared about the female soldiers thing

It was the perrenial
"I NEVER PLAYED THE GAME BUT THIS IS WHY I HATE IT" thing to say

[ruby saffron]

Its release window was psychotic

[arctic grove]

People forget when talking about BF1s representation of WW1 that it literally still included the standard service rifles of the major factions, just added in new guns so the game wasn’t extremely stale

[eager spire]

That's not Visceral's fault, though!

[fervent rose]

same thing with titanfall 2's release

they chose that shit

[drowsy shuttle]

It’s no longer possible to heal Ranger by the S21 Syrette Pistol <- da fuq lol didn't even knew this was a thing

[fervent rose]

Wildly stupid

[ruby saffron]

Rest in peace titanfall 2

[spiral folio]

BF1 was like "forgotten weapons .com" the game

[drowsy shuttle]

Irish’ APS-36 Shootdown Sentinel now intercepts the Ghostmaker R10’s explosive bolt <- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[arctic grove]

If anything BF1 character models make me think the real deals are boring

Like why didn’t Germany think to make all their soldiers look like the Assault class character?

[spiral folio]

The campaign did some good views of ww1 but like the gameplay was not quite historical you could say

[eager spire]

BF1 could've been a better game if they'd done a few simple things to how it played.
-Not fuck with the sliding mechanic
-Remove suppression
-Remove sweet spots
-Remove visual recoil/sight sway
-Add bullet tracers in first person

[fervent rose]

neither was bf5

it wasnt authentic ww2

[arctic grove]

BF1 is absolutely more of a theme and immersion oriented game but it makes up for the casual gameplay well with those said facts in mind, really not that big of a deal for most players

[fervent rose]

and thank god, garand vs k98 for most players isnt fun

[spiral folio]

Watch "all is quiet in the western front"
"Sir .... i was given somebody elses uniform it has their name in it"
-rips off nametag-
"Its yours now"
-camera pans to pile of nametags-

[drowsy shuttle]

still no RM68 nerf... Very cool, Dice. Thank much very you.

[fervent rose]

@drowsy shuttle level 40 on the battlepass. expect a buff first

then a month later a nerf

[arctic grove]

I genuinely wanna know where some people’s actual disdain for BF1 comes from, like some people fucking H A T E that game and it’s intriguing

[drowsy shuttle]

almost everyone has the rm68 by now

[fervent rose]

sweet spot, horses, elite kits, gas grenades, i can go on

really bad movement

[eager spire]

I've written a whole list of my problems with BF1 in the past. Lemme go find it.

[spiral folio]

Probably people whos lives depend on guided munitions

[arctic grove]

Also that’s directed at nobody here, talking about random Reddit and YouTube funniness

[fervent rose]

the visual recoil on guns was obnoxious

[arctic grove]

Understandable all except elite kits

[green bough]

What was wrong with the movement

[fervent rose]

it's geriatric

[spiral folio]

Reddit is a cesspool where idiots go to be told theyre right for upvotes by saying the same thing everyone in the sub is saying

[arctic grove]

I really don’t understand the issue with the elite kits. They’re all bayonet 1 “shot” and half of them either have gimped vision or movement

[drowsy shuttle]

meh. very underwhelming update... i was expecting discarded rework at least.

[ruby saffron]

1. Everything

[arctic grove]

See

[eager spire]

@arctic grove >Gas grenades go through floors and walls

Visual recoil is a thing in BF1 despite being removed from BF4 because it was distracting and nobody liked it
The SMG 08 exists, despite assault already having a gun with over 50 rounds in a mag. It is entirely too strong after the buff it got. I don't understand why it got buffed in the first place
The Sweet Spot mechanic caters to people who can't or don't want to aim for the head with bolt actions. Arbitrarily having a oneshot distance out to like 50-75 meters is stupid. I am aware this was done for the sake of iron sight bolt actions, but if that's the case, i feel like they should've just not had that mechanic at all for scoped bolts, and in place of that, infantry/iron sight bolts should get oneshots up to 10-15 meters away so they're still viable
BF1 changed how Domination and Conquest work, the team with the score advantage keeps scoring even if they lose flag majority. This makes it so games seem closer than they actually are, and makes comebacks very unlikely.
Sliding did not need to get nerfed twice. The first nerf, where you could slide once at full speed but if you tried to slide again immediately after you got a slowdown, was a perfectly fine nerf. They did not need to nerf it again.
Suppression exists. BF1 would be a better game if it didn't.

[fervent rose]

more hp by picking up an upgraded gun is a horrible idea

[spiral folio]

Elite kits were made to prevent rare and strong weapons from being too common. Ie the tankgewehr

[arctic grove]

Like it’s one thing to hate garbage mechanics and franchise trends. But holy hell my guy

[fervent rose]

elite kit was fucking dumb. battle pickups in other games are just fine

[spiral folio]

While still being able to have them in the game, but rarely

[eager spire]

Also, problem with elite kits is that they have 150 HP and basically serve to give people who can't play the game free kills

[ruby saffron]

Trench raider

[spiral folio]

So you wouldnt have 10 guys with flamethrowere and tank rifles

[green bough]

Your entire list has like 6 points

[arctic grove]

Again tho, elites were so s l o w

Either that or you could barely see anything past direct line of sight

[fervent rose]

by interacting with the elite kit you become a miniboss

it's stupid

you dont earn it

[spiral folio]

The alternative.

Is to have anyone able to use them.
And nerf them into worthlessness like the bf5 AT rifles or the ntw

[eager spire]

To be honest i probably have a longer list somewhere but i'm still looking for it.

[ruby saffron]

That one that gives you the suit of armor

[arctic grove]

The only exceptions being trench raider and the one tank hunting one but those are super situational elite classes

[brittle forge]

Yeah I didn’t elites were bad tbh, although some where clearly better than others

[green bough]

The trench raider was so good

[spiral folio]

Yea like if everyone was a frigin sentry

[fervent rose]

battle pickups are a million times better than elite kits

[arctic grove]

Trench raider gets bullied in any real gunfights, the tank sniper was handling a giant, slow gun

[green bough]

Not with smoke and a medkit

[brittle forge]

Villar Pillarsa, Trench Raider, and Tankgewehr were the only ones that are like some op threat imho

[spiral folio]

Youd get like 20 sentries pinging each other while 5 tank hunters 1 shot em and random trench raider and flamers going around

[eager spire]

and their existence was annoying and sucked ass.

[green bough]

Bro there were like 2 elite class kits per game

[karmic egret]

Is all chat coming back in 4.1

[arctic grove]

Battle pickups are fine imo. Literally half the time I used them I turned super cautious because I didn’t wanna die

[green bough]

Up to 4 on verdun tho

[ruby saffron]

Probs 4.2 or later

[spare quest]

Season 5, bet

[eager spire]

Both are terrible fucking ideas

[karmic egret]

FUCK

[fervent rose]

@karmic egret at this point its probably gonna be some portal only bullshit

[spiral folio]

I mean like if you could freely pick elite kits like a class if you paid attention

[brittle forge]

Villar Pillarsa was the one I hated cause it was in tdm for some stupid reason

[ruby saffron]

Hey the katana in the pacific maps on bfv was goofy as fuck

[spiral folio]

Or if it want obvious enough

[green bough]

No you can’t

[spiral folio]

Omg illiterate

[ruby saffron]

I did like the sword

[fervent rose]

bfv katana and flamethrower were enjoyable additions to the game

[spiral folio]

Id say hypothetical if you could sound it out

[brittle forge]

The Barrett in BF4 was fun af ngl

[karmic egret]

THIS IS SOME BULLSHCEIßE

[spiral folio]

The? Barrett?

[brittle forge]

The M82A3 i think

[spiral folio]

I didnt play bf4 so i dunno which

[brittle forge]

The battle pick up

[spiral folio]

Ah ok

[fervent rose]

it was like cod sniping, the battle pickup 50 cal was really powerful

[spiral folio]

Well ... yea it should be but dont tell bf5 that

[arctic grove]

What’s wrong with battle pickups? I’m curious

[fervent rose]

but it was really limited

[arctic grove]

They’re strong but really limited in ammo iirc

[eager spire]

Getting oneshot by some idiot who runs straight to the Barrett pickup when the round starts is fucking annoying.

[karmic egret]

DICE NO ALL CHAT ME ANGY FIX

[eager spire]

It's the same issue i have with Elite Kits. It's free kills for people who are bad at the game.

[spiral folio]

Pickups kinda help limit powerful weapond

[sudden matrix]

Are nades bugged rn? I keep throwing them miles away lol

[eager spire]

OR, CONSIDER THIS, DON'T HAVE THEM IN THE GAME AT ALL.

[spiral folio]

Lame

[eager spire]

NOBODY WOULD COMPLAIN IF AN M82 WASN'T IN BF4.

[spiral folio]

I would if i played bf4

[arctic grove]

That’s sorta fair, like as limited as they are I fucking hate being 1 shot by almost anything that wasn’t a sniper headshot, makes me mald

[eager spire]

Considering the amount of semi auto marksman rifles in the game i don't see it as a reasonable complaint to have.

[spiral folio]

Like a rare powerful weapon is rare and powerful

[arctic grove]

It’s why I hate the NTW with everything in my soul

Or crossbow explosive bolts

[spiral folio]

Ntw should be a pickup like an elite kit or whatever

Like no damage to tanks but lots of damage to light armor and infantry. Low ammo capacity

[arctic grove]

NTW deserves nothing 😈

[spiral folio]

Explosive rounds also

[brittle forge]

Honestly the battle pickups were limited enough I didn’t even mind getting one shot by them. It rarely happened

[arctic grove]

Yeah they are pretty rare tbh

[spiral folio]

Yea they dont "usually" change battle outcome

[arctic grove]

They’re not super invasive

[sullen merlin]

What level is s039 I see weird numbers like that

[brittle forge]

It’s not like any decent sniper wouldn’t one shot just with a normal headshot

[spiral folio]

(Unlessyoukeepfeedsingmeammo)

[eager spire]

It's still annoying. Like i said. Free kills for shitters.

[spiral folio]

I had one round of bf1 soisson with my brother just piling ammo on me with the hunter kit.

I had to of killed 16 tanks with 8 uncredited

[brittle forge]

Don’t care tbh. It was fun doing it back to em

[sullen merlin]

Could someone please explain?

[eager spire]

okay i wrote a longer list of my issues with BF1 since apparently i've never compiled all of them on a single list. This is without elaborations because if i put those it'd probably not fit in a single message.

BF1 issues:
-Suppression existing
-Nerfed sliding mechanic despite that being the only unique movement mechanic the game has
-Visual recoil existing
-Sweet spots
-Elite Kits/Behemoths existing
-Gas and fire grenades going through walls and floors
-Gunplay with SMG's largely being hipfire focused
-Spread being an unintuitive mechanic due to no bullet tracers in first person
-Conquest and Domination being changed from previous games, the team with the score advantage keeps scoring even after losing majority of flags
-Support MG's basically becoming suppression dealing laserbeams with the bipods
-Lighting being fucked due to HDR support
-No test range, for some reason

[arctic grove]

oh come on, you know you like the Behemoths, everyone loves the behemoths

[eager spire]

:I

[arctic grove]

I played heligoland bight a week ago and I had the absolute pleasure of my dreadnought driver just SITTING IN SPAWN

[eager spire]

but yeah that's all my issues with BF1.

[arctic grove]

TLDR average DICE silliness, plus frostbite bugs, plus old Battlefield game trends

[eager spire]

🙄

[brittle forge]

Its like post game mastery ranks kinda. They start after you complete rank 100.

[arctic grove]

I’m not saying I don’t understand tho. Just messing around

[brittle forge]

You don’t get any unlocks past 100 it’s purely a measure of how much you’ve played

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah I forgot to reply but yeah, just mastery ranks

[eager spire]

like yeah i guess it is average DICE bullshit but it doesn't mean it's good or justified. Literally none of these things would be issues if BF1 was a good game.

[arctic grove]

1, 2, 3, 6 points make sense to me for existing. Somewhat

Definitely not good or justified things, but they largely exist considering BFV was when Battlefield started doing new gunplay mechanics anyways, so most of those things aren’t just in 1, but even older games

[eager spire]

i don't even like BFV's gunplay, spread to recoil conversion was horrible.

[arctic grove]

I basically mean those points for the most part are constants with games 1 and older

Like suppression we all know could’ve been way worst, like with BF4s DMRs….

[eager spire]

SUPPRESSION WAS A MECHANIC THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN SCRAPPED AFTER BF3

WHO THE FUCK WAS THINKING THAT WAS A GOOD THING TO KEEP AROUND FOR YEARS.

[sullen merlin]

So the higher the number the more you’re level?

[safe bramble]

suppression is a good mechanic

punishes lone wolf losers who abuse bhopping lmao

[brittle forge]

Yes, you’ve played for longer

[eager spire]

you know what also punishes lone wolves who abuse bhopping? Shooting them.

And killing them.

[sullen merlin]

I’m a very super skilled rpt thermal scope user 🥳🥳🥳🥳

[eager spire]

WHY THE FUCK SHOULD THERE BE A MECHANIC THAT REWARDS PLAYERS FOR FUCKING MISSING

[sullen merlin]

Bc it’s a element of war

[arctic grove]

That justification doesn’t make sense for BF1 though to be fair

[eager spire]

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT.

[brittle forge]

I like suppression if it’s purely a visual effect

[arctic grove]

It’s very grounded

[eager spire]

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PLAYING FUCKING SQUAD OR ARMA I'M TALKING ABOUT BATTLEFIELD.

[arctic grove]

Like for BF3/4 EHHH? Because the movement in those games was weird

Like that’s IF that’s what DICE intended suppression to be used for

[brittle forge]

If suppression is restricted to machine guns that also works for me

[weak moss]

Does anyone know how to set up an aim trainer? Looking for something to help practice my shooting, aiming, recoil, etc. I remember in other BF you had the gun range and flight testing but can't find it on 2042.

[arctic grove]

There’s a popular one I can find you the code for

[eager spire]

I'm just not fond of a mechanic in a game that rewards players for not actually fucking hitting me, but fucks up my aim so i can't shoot back at the motherfucker who's trying to shoot at me and failing to do so.

[arctic grove]

If someone doesn’t beat me to it

[safe bramble]

words from a guy who can't find value in playing smarter

[eager spire]

Like if you can't fucking hit me and I kill you in return, then that's on you.

[arctic grove]

AANJ7Z

[eager spire]

Fucking aim better.

[safe bramble]

if your playstyle relies on rushing and gunning, you deserve to get punished for it

cope otherwise

[arctic grove]

Do you like MW22?

[brittle forge]

Leviathan is talking about a portal server, but you can also play solo against ai bots as a pseudo practice range

[safe bramble]

last cod i played was world at war

[eager spire]

IF your playstyle relies on not fucking hitting people then you deserve to get punished for that, you're fucking missing, you should die.

[arctic grove]

I read that and that’s the first thing I thought to say lol

[safe palm]

Suppression needs to be locked to constant incoming lmg fire

[safe bramble]

waaah i can't do anything but w+m1 waaah i shouldn't have to use my brain in a warzone

[eager spire]

You missing should not effect my ability to hit you once i notice you.

[safe palm]

If you can get suppressed by any random goober taking potshots at you with a pistol it just becomes annoying

[eager spire]

Call your ISP and tell them you've had enough, seriously.

[arctic grove]

I wouldn’t even mind something like OG suppression on LMGs only. I mean if we wanna stretch it, I’d say on LMGs similar to BFVs MMGs, they’re already slow to handle so ehh

[eager spire]

"i shouldn't have to use my brain in a warzone" motherfucker we're talking about an arcade shooter with large maps. we're not talking about fucking squad or arma here. I use my brain fucking plenty as it is without having to worry about not being able to fucking hit anything cause some dipshit is spraying near me and fucking missing.

You wanna punish lone wolf players? Fucking shoot them and kill them.

It's not hard.

[arctic grove]

no I have the perfect idea to nerf lone wolfs and this is very very balanced and fair you’ll love it

attrition

[weak moss]

This is the code? Thank you for the help

[inner roost]

Lol this guy is the type of person MW2 devs love, "Sentinel" player

[eager spire]

honestly

[arctic grove]

Yes, no problem man

[weak moss]

Thanks, much appreciated

[safe bramble]

battlefield isn't an arcade lmao, that's shit like tf2

battlefield is a combined arms shooter

[safe bramble]

Literally

i feel like allchat was removed solely because they knew people would be throwing insults left and right at losers for abusing the meta

[karmic egret]

spam the devs in retalliation s/

[karmic egret]

thats the best part

[safe bramble]

ik, im just saying thats probably why

i think shit talking in allchat is funny

staple of battlefield really

bf4 wouldn't be so good if i didn't have a guy telling me to touch grass cause i shot him in an apache

[fervent rose]

staple of mp gaming

[arctic grove]

Battlefield is an arcade shooter for a lot of reasons like TTK and movement

[karmic egret]

at least the chat box is getting some well needed improvements

such as an opacity slider

[safe bramble]

bf doesn't have realism like arma, hll or the like but it's def not arcade level

[arctic grove]

Plus body damage modeling or whatever it is, basically like getting shot in the leg slowing you down or removing sprinting altogether, etc

[karmic egret]

battlefield is semi realistic but no arcade shooter

[arctic grove]

Fair, I see what you mean about tf2

[karmic egret]

its more of a sandbox

[fervent rose]

i can bunnyhop into an ally for an instant revive with defibs. it's an arcade game haze

and 2042's not the first faster paced battlefield

[safe bramble]

nobody calls csgo an arcade shooter and you can do the same thing (minus defibs)

[fervent rose]

csgo is not realistic or a simulator

it's an arcade tactical fps

[safe bramble]

you can't have arcade and tactical at the same time

[fervent rose]

you literally can

[safe bramble]

that defeats the concept of arcade

[fervent rose]

cs does it pretty well

Siege also

[eager spire]

yes it is. It being “combined arms” does not stop it from being arcade, because it’s certainly not tactical, nor is it a simulation.

[fervent rose]

funny how when i google arcade fps cs go is the first thing google tells me

[arctic grove]

I will infer that MW22 is also arcade and tactical

[eager spire]

"Battlefield is not an arcade shooter" what the fuck is it then? Combined Arms is not a category of video game, that is a type of combat, and guess what, Squad and ARMA have that kind of combat, but that doesn't make them not milsims because they are clearly games intended to be military simulations. And what about the recent Call of Duty games, MW19 and MW22, with Ground War having vehicles? Are they suddenly not arcade shooters anymore because they have infantry and vehicles?

AND IF WE'RE ON THAT TOPIC, HOW DO THE TITANS IN TITANFALL NOT COUNT AS VEHICLES

[arctic grove]

[eager spire]

BY THAT LOGIC TITANFALL IS AN COMBINED ARMS SHOOTER AS WELL, AND THEREFORE NOT ARCADE

[drowsy shuttle]

battlefield is not 100% arcade, but its way more arcade than sim

[eager spire]

Battlefield has basically been prototyping what MW19 and MW22 did in Ground War for years before those games came out. I think Battlefield could reasonably be considered an arcade shooter.

[brittle forge]

Arcade shooter is damn near meaningless teem tbh. Fucking R6 Siege is an arcade shooter, when every previous series entry was a tactical shooter

[kindred flint]

monka what.... RPK finally????

[eager spire]

well yes but considering the argument i'm going to keep using that term

because frankly this is fucking annoying me

[brittle forge]

Battlefield also emphasized its immersion and authenticity way more than other arcade shooters, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to go nuts because the game has a pseudo realistic mechanic

At least it used to

[eager spire]

The only game they did that in was BF1 and BF1 sucked ass.

for previously discussed reasons.

[brittle forge]

No and no

[fervent rose]

it's not a meaningless term. people just have to learn what words mean

[brittle forge]

But I don’t care to really discuss it with you tbh, I agree with some reasons to why BF1 has issues but overall I love it and you’ll just continue to scream about how much it sucks when I fundamentally don’t agree

[fervent rose]

👍

[brittle forge]

Personally I don’t like BF1’s explosive spam and random bullet spread. Everything else I’m more or less ok with

[arctic grove]

Everything else is manageable in BF1

[eager spire]

Explosive spam is also a fair complaint since i also hold that complaint against BF2042.

[brittle forge]

That message wasn’t for you just so we are clear

[eager spire]

I forgot to put that in the list.

[arctic grove]

Totally agree about that

Hell, I love BF1 and even I think airburst mortars for instance can go to hell

[eager spire]

The spread, eh, i don't think it's a bad balancing mechanic, just very unintuitive for the reasons that i've mentioned before.

[fervent rose]

either way, im not hating you for your opinion. i just cannot agree with what they did in bf1

[brittle forge]

Spread on smgs I actually didn’t mind, on the medic rifles it was fucking obnoxious. BFV did semi autos waaaaay better

[fervent rose]

that game had really bad retention problems, so its clear it also didnt work as much as bf1 fans insist

[eager spire]

I don't mind the spread on the medic SLR's, suppression and visual recoil were bigger problems for me on those rifles.

[arctic grove]

Retention problems? Like with its player count?

[fervent rose]

players quitting

[arctic grove]

Ah

[kindred flint]

bf1 had shit balance for so long lol

the amount of rose glasses people have when praising it is amazing

[brittle forge]

Tbh I don’t bf1 is really remembered for its gameplay over other games, people liked the atmosphere of it

Which is frankly unrivaled compared anything else in the series

[arctic grove]

Eh, if BF1 really is like that for so many people then it’s not like I can fight for them back. I think it’s gameplay falls behind depending on what players you ask, but it’s still got some of the best post launch support content and masterful theme execution to accommodate it. If anything I think it’s largely influenced by appealing to as many people as possible considering the shitstorm that was IWs feedback

[eager spire]

i mean yeah it looks great, but personally i'm not playing a multiplayer shooter for the "Atmosphere", i'm playing it for the gameplay.

And if the gameplay sucks, well, the game sucks.

[arctic grove]

Gameplay is just more casual and lax

Presentation is imo just as important as gameplay

[brittle forge]

I thought the gameplay was perfectly fine for what it is, I like BFV overall way better but I don’t pretend its a WW2 game like it wants me too

BF1 I can appreciate for committed to themes it is

[eager spire]

yeah, like i said, BF1 is just like world war 1. so much so that i don't want to play it anymore.

[arctic grove]

It should be considered that BF1 has a general reputation for genuinely being a complete shitstorm all around, I don’t blame them for capitalizing on that first

[brittle forge]

Also yeah BF1’s dlc is cracked as hell

Loved almost every map they released

[arctic grove]

BF1s theme and atmosphere is engaging in a way I’m still struggling to find words for and it’s irritating the hell out of me lol

So I’m all over the place rn

[eager spire]

ALSO, something i didn't put on the list but probably should have:
-Community hosted servers are just in a permanent state of scuffed because plugins do not exist for BF1 so if someone is cheating or being fucking racist then mods have to ban people personally, and normally servers have limited ban slots but there's some method to get around that, and also official servers are entirely unmoderated so if there's a cheater on one of those, good fucking luck.

[brittle forge]

The only war game that has as strong and atmosphere that I’ve played is World at War

[arctic grove]

Makes sense, as a console guy if someone’s toxic they either t bag you or send you a nasty message through the console messaging (then they get their account beamed)

So that whole issue I couldn’t comment on

[arctic grove]

World at War is another game I’ll infer for why I think theme and atmosphere is just as important, that game is DARK

Super captivating game

[eager spire]

World at War, I only remember that game because one time i installed it, got on a crouch only hardcore server, got a triple collat with the Springfield, and then uninstalled the game.

That's my defining memory of World at War.

[brittle forge]

I’m honestly not sympathetic to most moderation complaints outside of cheating. Which granted was a problem in pretty much every bf game, but especially V since it never got community moderation ever

[arctic grove]

I only played its MP when I was real young personally but I love it’s campaign

[brittle forge]

Don’t play World at War for the multiplayer lmao

Especially now

[arctic grove]

Old CoDs by todays terms def aren’t worth it to play anyways yeah lol

[eager spire]

I am, mostly because i've moderated servers, mostly not for games but for other things, so not being able to just make it so people who are fucking racist get automatically banned is very annoying because you're gonna have to stop what you're doing and get on there to get rid of the dipshit.

[cosmic sequoia]

shit servers take a shit?

[jovial furnace]

Yup

same for me ;-;

[cosmic sequoia]

they're having trouble keeping the lights on at EA

can't keep the servers up

let the interns manage the servers for the weekend

np

[brittle forge]

I just don’t care for “I don’t like internet person they’re mean and say bad things” bs. Granted in the old bfs you didn’t have a block button so it is a tad more serious but you could just mute chat yourself

[jovial furnace]

Now that I’m here, anyone play Rao 🤔

[neat crane]

are ea servers okay

[brittle forge]

If you set server rules and they’re broken that’s something else

[jovial furnace]

I’ve reconnected, you may be able to as well

[arctic grove]

wtf happened lol

[eager spire]

eh, it's the principle of it. if you regularly remove players that are being racist or just otherwise being a dipshit, then less people will feel motivated to be like that unless they also want to be removed.

[arctic grove]

Servers must’ve REALLY imploded

[eager spire]

it's the kind of thing you can't just let go, not unless you wanna cultivate a userbase full of dipshits.

[arctic grove]

I agree about that

No censorship just, enables really stupid shit

But it’s the internet and it’s not like we can physically prevent someone from typing something purposefully awful so it’s just a gigantic circle tbh

[brittle forge]

Yeah I don’t care for the often power hungry jannies who get off on banning everything they don’t like. Slurs are one thing but it’s never just slurs with these people

[arctic grove]

Just have moderation, that’s all you can really do. Or no all chat at all, which I’m not opposed to in 2042

[brittle forge]

It’s “you killed me with c4”

[eager spire]

But by that same token, it's the internet and if someone is saying some dipshit stuff, you can just remove them. It's not like that's hard to do and it benefits everyone who actually wants to have decent and genuine conversations.

[brittle forge]

Or “you camped too much with a sniper”

[eager spire]

i mean it is mostly just slurs though.

[brittle forge]

You shouldn’t be using all chat for a genuine conversation ngl

[brittle forge]

Not it isn’t lol. Maybe for your server specifically it was

[arctic grove]

I feel like DICE targeting all chat makes the situation worse in a way. It’s hard to explain, but when people looked into why they removed it it’s like people went back to old games just to abuse the lack of any real moderation

[eager spire]

to be frank i feel like the only reason DICE targeted all chat is to save on actually having to moderate chat. Like, in an ideal world you'd immediately get kicked out of a server if you said some racist bullshit. That's how it is with plugins in BF4 servers.

but DICE doesn't seem to want to do that, for whatever reason.

[brittle forge]

If you have a block, mute, report button in your game, which granted not all the old ones have, moderation complaints are 99% from self-victimizing crybabies or powerhungry dipshits. You’d have all the tools you need to avoid whatever problems at that point

[frank sequoia]

What if

[brittle forge]

Especially now that the chats have permanent filters

[frank sequoia]

Battlefield made specialists like how heroes are on battlefront. Each team can select a specialist with a certain amount of points or certain points, but can only be used by 1 person between both teams until they die with them

[safe palm]

What if specialists went away and never returned

[edgy oriole]

i would like elites to replace specialists tbh

[safe palm]

There’s no turning back for 2042 but if the next one isn’t traditional class based I legit think the franchise might die

[eager spire]

Okay but here's the thing about that, that works in Battlefront because it's associated with Star Wars. Star Wars has a lot of recognizable characters that people would wanna play as, and all of them have unique combat tactics or powers, that simply would not be the case for Battlefield.

[edgy oriole]

but specialists dont bother me really so i wouldnt care if they are in next game or not.

[eager spire]

Battlefield does not have many recognizable characters. At all.

and they all shoot guns.

[kindred flint]

that dozer mastery change is so hype too

[radiant prism]

;-;

[edgy oriole]

whats the change? damage?

[brittle forge]

I think might die is a bit overdramatic but they’d be doubling down on an ultra criticized element, which is kinda stupid

[radiant prism]

It’s not just shield kills anymore

[kindred flint]

nah killing up close works to the mastery now too

[safe palm]

Exactly

[edgy oriole]

so damage or.

or both

[radiant prism]

Kills up close

[safe palm]

BFV was a miss in a lot of peoples eyes

[edgy oriole]

boring

[safe palm]

2042 was worse

[radiant prism]

was

[safe palm]

If they don’t make a bf3-4-1 style battlefield next it really might alienate a lot of people completely

[brittle forge]

If they want to have a similar thing to specialists bring the combat roles from BFV back

[edgy oriole]

bfv pacific was peak battlefield for me

when i think of battlefield i think of pacific

[kindred flint]

then EA went fuck off, game ded

[arctic grove]

Classes is just how guns and gadgets are organized but I understand you 100%, I would much rather feel more immersion playing character models that depend on my class and faction that aren’t supposed to be anyone unique. Just an ordinary grunt. Specialists are poorly excused with “how else would they make money” when V had customization without what we’ve got now

god I’m typing paragraphs today

It’s funny because BFV customization would’ve been perfect considering No Pat lore

[safe palm]

Gadget and weapon organization is very important to how teams and squads function together tho

[eager spire]

BFV customization would've been fine. in fact BFV would've been fine if spread to recoil conversion didn't exist.

[brittle forge]

Yeah no kidding. That was by far the best system too

[safe palm]

Which is what a lot of players come specifically to battlefield for

[arctic grove]

100%, I’m just saying that classes don’t necessarily mean the grunt models, although I didn’t mean to seem like I was disagreeing with ya

[safe palm]

No yeah for sure

[brittle forge]

If the next game had the setting, classes, and sandbox of bf4 with the gameplay elements of BFV and gunplay of 2042 you’ve got a slam dunk pretty much

[safe palm]

I think atmosphere is incredibly important and it really burns my ass how every game tries its hardest to fill itself with neon clowns and such now

[arctic grove]

There you go DICE

[safe palm]

But classes are just as important to gameplay as they are to theme and setting

[arctic grove]

I’ve heard this so many times i almost comfortably believe this is the genera consensus opinion for the next game, it just seems ideal

[eager spire]

I donno about 2042's gunplay. 2042's gunplay needs some work.

[shell ermine]

Gunplay of BFV

[eager spire]

BFV's gunplay would be fine if spread to recoil conversion was removed.

[acoustic verge]

2042 is the only BF I’ve ever actually been able to get kills in idk if that means the game is bad or I’m bad but I’m having fun so far 🤷🏼‍♂️😂

[safe palm]

I see a lot of people complain about bullet spread but I think it’s pretty damn important

[arctic grove]

Just have spread when shooting after an extended period of time on top of 2042s easy control, that way it’s not super annoying but you also keep range restrictions

[safe palm]

Warzone made people think that every gun should be a laser beam

[brittle forge]

2042 pisses me off a lot just because of how much shit from V was removed. Rolling crouch, sprinting, and although I get fortifications being removed that was a great feature

[fervent rose]

bfv's gunplay is fine, period. better than 2042's current gunplay where any full auto can hit 100m

high rof guns beam way too much in this game

[eager spire]

yeah but people hate spread it's apparently a bad mechanic, even though it never was, really.

[fervent rose]

high rof was at least sort of balanced in bfv

[brittle forge]

I mean I would’ve said V but no bf gunplay model doesn’t have a problem, and they need to stop completely remaking it literally every fucking game

[eager spire]

DICE has amnesia every time they make a new game, they completely forget everything that the previous games did.

[brittle forge]

BF4 is a dogshit spread mechanic ngl

[fervent rose]

bf4 is spread increase per shot on steroids

[acoustic verge]

I still have no clue how folks drop the crazy high kill games I’m really happy if I can cap points and get a kill or two before I get clapped by someone I haven’t seen yet lol. I will say the atmosphere of the game is amazing though it’s so cool to feel like you’re in a giant battle

[fervent rose]

and it isnt good either

[arctic grove]

They have this fear of hearing “same game just reskinned” so they decide to completely fly around the place with game design

[brittle forge]

Honestly BF3 gunplay without surpression is decent choice

[safe palm]

It really isn’t that bad

[upbeat sand]

Do the

[safe palm]

All you have to do is tap/burst fire

[upbeat sand]

Do the patch notes

Have a

Angel does it again joke

[kindred flint]

bf3 is ruined because of its blue tint

[upbeat sand]

What the f

[safe palm]

Quit trying to beam people from a mile away and you’ll get kills

[arctic grove]

Blue tint is so weirdly nostalgic

Even though it’s kinda annoying

[eager spire]

BF4's spread isn't that bad, really. like spread is genuinely not a problem if you know how to play the game. And also run stubby grip. just run stubby grip on everything.

[kindred flint]

i hated it ever since the beta lol

[eager spire]

why not run stubby grip.

[safe palm]

Because I like ergo grip

[kindred flint]

the alpha not having it, looked so much better

[acoustic verge]

See I kinda figured that out but haven’t quite mastered rushing without being sniped yet lol

[safe palm]

Also the qbz 95 1 has pretty decent spread by default

[brittle forge]

In its heyday it actually wasn’t but they did a late cycle patch that gave every fucking attachment absurd spread recenter penalities

[safe palm]

Very underrated gun

[delicate whale]

No

[acoustic verge]

Okay so I actually played at launch and deleted it almost immediately but after trying it again since it’s on ps plus I’ve been having so much fun.

[safe palm]

Not the carbine type 95

The ar qbz 95 1

[brittle forge]

A gunplay that relies on a single attachment clearly being better than the rest is a bad gunplay model imho

[delicate whale]

True

[fervent rose]

2042 has similar issues

[safe palm]

Again I find you really don’t have much trouble if you just don’t full auto all the time

[fervent rose]

short barrel is god

[kindred flint]

i wont lie, i do have a soft spot for the bf3 campaign though ...that first time seeing the Tehran mission promo was damn cool

[acoustic verge]

So being a BF super casual, are there like meta guns in BF like there are in cod? I’ve been doing decently well with the standard AR with a mid range scope but are builds really important here?

[safe palm]

Spread can be annoying but it does a damn good job of enforcing short controlled bursts

[eager spire]

True, but I still don't think spread is a bad idea.

[kindred flint]

on m5?

[fervent rose]

on all

if gun has short

run short

[kindred flint]

WRONG m5 short barrel is objectively terrible

[upbeat sand]

Was the the RPK always in portal cause I never noticed it or is it a MTAR situation

[delicate whale]

Well battlefield 4 is like still running with people in it has no issues

[kindred flint]

stop being like way

[drowsy shuttle]

Almost 15min to get the game to launch.. get your shit together, EA. Holy shit.

[safe palm]

Mtar

[kindred flint]

...shit im running SB on the bsvm

[safe palm]

The aek and the mp443 were in portal already but the rpk is new to both 2042 and portal

[brittle forge]

Also the spread really is that bad if you use a dmr that isn’t the RFB. DMRs/semi autos are my favorite weapon class and Bf4 made all but one pretty painful to play

[upbeat sand]

Welp new shit is new shit

[safe palm]

Tell that to the sks

[upbeat sand]

I wonder if I instantly get the aek cause I already did the bf3 portal mission for it

[kindred flint]

does 2042 even have DMRs? i dont think they put any in the game

[eager spire]

well i never use DMR's anyway, frankly i don't even know why they're in the game.

[upbeat sand]

Ages ago

[kindred flint]

but they mislabeled what the bsvm is

[safe palm]

They’re cool and fun

[eager spire]

they're just sniper rifles for people that can't fucking aim

[gilded wind]

or they're ARs for people that aim awesome

[brittle forge]

On full autos BF4 spread isn’t terrible if you aren’t running attachments cause of that dumb patch I mentioned

[fervent rose]

are you asking why guns are in the game

[safe palm]

Those guys deserve toys too

[delicate whale]

Just snipers

[gilded wind]

DM7 w/ short barrel and subs is fun af to use

[kindred flint]

svk slapped so hard at release ...those were fun times

of course the uhh issue of all other guns in the game except the pp being absolute dog shit didnt help

[eager spire]

i am asking why DMR's are even in the game considering they're sniper rifles for people that can't aim, keep up

[brittle forge]

Yeah so I think the BF4 spread is bad, cause it is, since it absolutely massacres and entire weapon class

[kindred flint]

so svk seemed waaay better with its massive 2 shot range

[safe palm]

Because dmrs have a good niche

[fervent rose]

so you want to remove all dmrs. sounds really fun

[kindred flint]

really brought me back to the bfv SLR supremacy days yes i was one of those people

[fervent rose]

lets all just use the same weapon type

very exciting

[brittle forge]

Spread generally isn’t necessarily bad, in BF3 it worked well not counting suppression

[safe palm]

I don’t think that “they’re for people that suck” is really a good reason to not include something

Especially when it isn’t really very true lol

[eager spire]

i think it is.

[gilded wind]

it's definitely not true

[brittle forge]

It isn’t even true.

[gilded wind]

the svk has a faster ttk than most ARs if you land your shots, out to 100m

that's far from useless

[upbeat sand]

THE ONKY GOOD GUNS ARE GHSIT MAKER AND GVT

FIGHT ME

[eager spire]

i feel like at some point we got confused, i am talking about BF4.

[safe palm]

Add the mares leg you cowards dice

[kindred flint]

WHO IS STILL PRODUCING 45-70 ROUNDS IN THE YEAR 2042??

your gun is shit and takes shit ammo

[upbeat sand]

Already in the game

[eager spire]

IT ALREADY EXISTS IT'S CALLED THE GVT

[gilded wind]

ooohh my fault

[safe palm]

That’s a primary

[eager spire]

yes

but it's the same thing.

[gilded wind]

I came into the convo late bored at work

[brittle forge]

I should you’ve put BF Hardline’s gunplay in my next BF pitch just to fuck with you all. But unironically it’s like one the best models in the series outside of TTK being a bit too fast

[upbeat sand]

It deserves to be a holy primary becuase it is our saviour

[safe palm]

Ah but if they add the mares leg you could have two in the same loadout

[eager spire]

Hardline's gunplay is like BF4's tho

[fervent rose]

it was fine, serviceable. but not peak or ideal

[gilded wind]

I dunno man DICE guessed correctly on who would win the NGSW contract with the sig spear being the m5 in 2042, clearly 45-70 is here to stay, they seem to know things we don't

[brittle forge]

Generally Except way tighter imo

[upbeat sand]

Closest thing you can do is get the revolver with X4 scope

[arctic grove]

Hell, i have never touched hardline so I’d just watch the backlash lol

[eager spire]

yeah. which is fine.

[brittle forge]

It was BF4 gunplay without the bullshit, so it’s good

[arctic grove]

Although y’all make me curious to try it just to see it all for myself

[full burrow]

why the fuck you sending me to twitter just to then link your website

[brittle forge]

No suppression either

[kindred flint]

that sig m338 LMG is scary

[arctic grove]

I honestly think judging by the far and few hardline MP gameplay videos I’ve seen that it IS pretty cool looking

[gilded wind]

hardline was low key a ton of fun imo, sad they ruined it locking 80% of the content behind the dlc crap back then

I loved that game though

[eager spire]

Hardline is good and i'm sad that it's dead

[gilded wind]

the couch was awesome

[arctic grove]

When I think hardline I think of that couch yeah lmao

[upbeat sand]

Improvised gun when

[brittle forge]

2042 still hasn’t added the HK433 so it’s still trash /s

[safe palm]

I liked how it had an uzi

[gilded wind]

with 2042 doing vault stuff and all that...couch call-in vehicle as a battlepass reward isn't totally off the table...js

[brittle forge]

Hardline had valid critiques about it’s price and frankly awful SP but people were WAAAY too harsh on it

[gilded wind]

agreed, I honestly always felt if they just called it "Hardline" not "Battlefield Hardline", it would have been received better by that title change alone lol

everyone was SO mad about cops vs robbers instead of military

[safe palm]

Because a battlefield title without attack helicopters and tanks and such is pretty strange

[eager spire]

Question, if you buy Hardline on the EA App right now, would it come with the DLC?

[eager spire]

But it was good

It was fun

[safe palm]

If it had been its own thing it would have done fine

[gilded wind]

yeah

[hybrid totem]

Kinda like portal

[brittle forge]

Especially the whole “not a military, not battlefield” stuff. I’m usually sympathetic to stuff like that but they could not have been more clear that Hardline was supposed to be a spinoff

[safe palm]

Portal just doesn’t have enough shit in it

[gilded wind]

their primary mistake (aside from the DLC way of releasing the rest of the game, with not much of a game on launch), was calling it a battlefield title

[fervent rose]

portal is low quality and low content

[acoustic verge]

Is there like a battlefield noobz chat lol because I’ve been playing these games for a while but purely for the atmosphere and have literally never been any kind of good at them and reading this chat like, I have absolutely no clue how to get close enough to someone to be consistent with an smg lol. Is it mostly about just learning the maps? Because they’re so huge that I feel like I get hit by someone I don’t see just as often as I lose a gunfight. Like is there a strategy I’m missing here or is it just getting a feel for the game?

[arctic grove]

Hell, me personally judging by my love for typical military shooters, I would’ve skipped it when it were new too (and did)

[mild crystal]

How does crossplay work on ps4

[gilded wind]

like if Apex was Titanfall: Apex, it would have done way worse.

[arctic grove]

But conceptually it’s pretty darn nice

[brittle forge]

Portal weapons are genuinely awful and need a complete rework

[fervent rose]

to do portal properly is a really fucking huge ambitious project

they did like a tech demo

[gilded wind]

learn maps, use smokes well, permanently force your W key to the floor

[eager spire]

You wanna know what pisses me off

[acoustic verge]

Am a lowly ps5 user unfortunately

[gilded wind]

you play on PS4 and die to people with vastly superior PCs and consoles

[eager spire]

THEY'RE SELLING HARDLINE WITH ALL THE DLC FOR $40 ON STEAM

$40 is way too fucking much

[safe palm]

Black ops 2 is still 60 bucks

[gilded wind]

even easier, rubber band around the stick forward

relieve that thumb tension

[eager spire]

The game is already dead. It should be $20, it was that much then it came out on Steam.

[fervent rose]

its not like they want you to play hardline

[brittle forge]

Portal done properly is an entirely separate triple AAA game. Like a Garry’s Mod for Battlefield

[arctic grove]

PS5 here. Went 52-11 on one of my games yesterday

It is definitely about learning the gunplay muscle memory, knowing your weapon categories strengths, and learning the maps

[gilded wind]

lmao isn't 2042 still up for $18? But BFH is $40???

[acoustic verge]

And I absolutely love the default assault class smoke launcher! It’s so cool to set a screen to rush over open ground to get to a point

[fervent rose]

they want you on a newer game with MTX and in game store

[gilded wind]

yeah that thing is super useful

[eager spire]

nah it's back up to $60 now

[gilded wind]

ah

well still, it was 18 for a bit there and has been 30 multiple times

insane that hardline would be 40 lmao

[acoustic verge]

2042 is free for PlayStation right now which is why it’s popping off so much with active players

[fervent rose]

ya exactly. and it would take years

[full burrow]

Falck

It’s no longer possible to heal Ranger by the S21 Syrette Pistol

[brittle forge]

Any curious lurkers do not buy 2042 for 60 fucking bucks lmao

[full burrow]

wtf I had no idea

[eager spire]

Genuinely I think all of the DLC for past BF games should be included with purchases of games made after their lifespan has ended.

Like, It's annoying that the price of the game is basically inflated due to required DLC costs.

[safe palm]

I got bf4 premium for like 6 bucks

[acoustic seal]

i bought 2042 for $18 and still feel scammed, woe be upon those who decide to spend $110 for ultimate edition

[gilded wind]

couldn't agree more, they really need to capture how good portal could be. 2042 could still even with its track record be a fantastic game in the long run through that alone

[shell ermine]

Every tank needs the S-Mine launcher that the CAV has or they need to make the APS counter C5 again

[brittle forge]

I fucking hate the CAV lmao

That thing is damn near impossible to kill as infantry

[acoustic verge]

Yeah right now I’m just having so much fun participating in the chaos haha! I’m kinda learning the flow of which points are good to get first on which maps and such. Like it took me a few games to realize that one map has points that are complete overlooks of others and that if the other team has those, you’ll never cap the lower points and such.

[shell ermine]

Or in addition make it take 4 C5 to kill a MBT

[mild crystal]

Can i play with ps5 or pc if im on ps4

[arctic grove]

…… yes.

YES.

[drowsy shuttle]

Only 64p servers

[gilded wind]

learning maps is definitely huge. If nothing else just try to be in a squad with someone else who's doing well and follow them around (just don't be up in their junk and annoying)

[brittle forge]

Isn’t it already 3 sticks? That’s enough c4

[fervent rose]

4 c5 to kill mbt would be such a poor decision

you should ALWAYS be able to solo a tank with c4/dynamite in bf

[gilded wind]

hard agree, i hope that never changes and never should

[fervent rose]

i dont mind the brawler having a unique hp model, the driver doesnt get to solo free farm

[arctic grove]

….

no (get out of here with your sane balancing decision take)

Nah just fuckin around

[fervent rose]

but also remove c5 from sundance

[arctic grove]

yes

Jokes aside. Fucking yes

[gilded wind]

cool but give it to falk and let me keep ammo box too

[fervent rose]

mackay should keep it, because they already nerfed his horizontal grapple

but sundance flies in from a mile away

[arctic grove]

Mackay is a little eh but he does have to get on top of the tank and be a lot closer to do so so yeah

[shell ermine]

Fuck no that's so dumb

[fervent rose]

it's dumb, good argument

[gilded wind]

it's been that way in every battlefield since 2002

[fervent rose]

every bf ever

[gilded wind]

even the weird little battlefields like heros and 1943

[shell ermine]

Yeah but they finally fixed that nonsense with BFV

[fervent rose]

tanks are free killstreaks. c5 countering them is great, if you get that close you deserve to get exploded

[shell ermine]

Then APS needs to work on C5

[gilded wind]

ah yes BFV a pinnacle of success for the series full of excellent balancing decisions

[mild crystal]

@drowsy shuttle ty

[fervent rose]

no, they had it work like that before. and it was broken

[brittle forge]

I can see the argument against for 2042 cause of sundance/mckay mobility, but in previous games c4ing a tank required a pretty good player or a dumb tank driver

[mild crystal]

Anyone got controller flying settings?

[acoustic verge]

Yeah I was gonna say it does seem like I do so much better when I have a squad that actually sticks together. I wish other folks would the orders thing when I’m not leader though.

[fervent rose]

bfv also had soloing tanks with dynamite, so the guy isnt right

[shell ermine]

You had to resupply before you could

[fervent rose]

false

[gilded wind]

yeah unfortunately battlefield is overall a really casual shooter so people aren't too invested in paying attention to their team more often than not. Can always try adding people you enjoy playing with and partying up, or even give this Discord a shot. I've never joined the VOIP here but it's always bumpin.

[acoustic verge]

Also is there a metric to how vehicles become available? At first I thought they were all just on a respawn timer but then I look back and they’re just greyed out the whole match aside from maybe a little jeep.

[shell ermine]

Spawn amount of dynamite could not solo a medium or heavy tank

[fervent rose]

i also halftrack rammed/jeep rammed like 200+ tanks in bfv with dynamite

but you can insist dynamite cant solo tanks

[gilded wind]

oh did it lol, I only ever sniped in bfv, krag jorgy was the end-all be-all for my gameplay in that game. Didn't play it a ton

[fervent rose]

yea, you max at 3, of course you go grab one from the ammo crate and then kill the tank

[acoustic verge]

Oh yeah and I’ve always just played super casually because I’ve never been good but all of a sudden in this game I can actually hit people I’m aiming at usually and get shots off in time to win fights so I’m actually trying to learn from folks who play these all the time.

[fervent rose]

you could also easily solo them with spawn equipment on support

no crate visit needed

[shell ermine]

Exactly, so you couldn't have field spawning sneakyboys soloing tanks

[fervent rose]

except 2 + the piat + at grenade did kill everything except the tiger

you didnt play the game much maybe

[acoustic verge]

I took out a jeep with whatever kinda super grenade the lady assault class starts with and it was the coolest thing I’ve ever done in an online shooter lmao. Just a dramatic as hell moment

[fervent rose]

i did a lot of tank hunting solo in bfv

[acoustic verge]

I guess that’s what y’all call a “only in battlefield” moment

[karmic egret]

I hope we get the ability to customise the opacity for sights

[gilded wind]

ooooh right bfv you didn't start with max ammo, so that guy was claiming you couldn't solo them in V because of starting with 2 vs 3

gotcha

[gilded wind]

haha you'll definitely get it from just playing and trying things. helps to learn the strengths of guns & attachments as well, the in-game stats are extremely deceptive (or flat out wrong in some cases)

like "firepower" is an absolutely meaningless stat, says the AM40's firepower is way lower than the M5, but the AM40 kills in one less bullet at all ranges, with a higher ROF, and is a laser beam

(for example)

[arctic grove]

@copper ice (sorry if you’re busy)

Figured you’d like to add onto that lol

[gloomy otter]

$5 pls it only has 34-60 as a daily playercount

[eager spire]

$5 on sale, but $20 otherwise

Because i feel like the amount of stuff you get in the DLC is justified with $20

even if the game's dead.

and it'd be even more justified if more people were playing it.

[gloomy otter]

and they closing down the servers of bfbc2, which still gets around 400-500 players everyday

(steam playercount)

[shell ermine]

I mean it shouldn't be difficult for custom servers to get set up for the PC version

Happens with a lot of shut down games

[arctic grove]

BC2 seems to be getting it’s official servers shut down not cause playercount but just age

[shell ermine]

They gave plenty of warning so the people who do this kinda stuff will have plenty of time to packet sniff to get all the info they need

[gilded wind]

lol was definitely just one of many examples how the in-game stats lie to your face

[arctic grove]

Oh absolutely. I noticed chunky talking about that once so I thought you’d dig a convo with them about it

[gilded wind]

lol i don't know why cod and bf are both notoriously bad for completely made up in-game gun stats, it seems like SUCH an easy thing to do right and probably one of the only changes they could ever make in a battlefield game that would be a positive change to 100% of the community

[drowsy shuttle]

Using C5 with FNB phisics its pretty cool

[arctic grove]

Like how BF1 had weapon damage drop off stats

In the in game weapon menu too ^

[gilded wind]

yeah i mean would it kill them to just put "damage: number" versus "firepower" and just leave you guessing wtf that is supposed to even mean

rather than making some nerd sit there and personally test it all and put it on a spreadsheet

and including muzzle velocity and things like that would just be so nice and convenient

subsonic rounds for example in-game look like they carry HARSH downsides for very little upside, but they're low-key the absolute shit on 99% of the guns that have them

[arctic grove]

BSV being one of the only times it’s good because it has extended subsonic

[gilded wind]

dm7, am40, and avancys with subs are all super fun to use, people are clueless without tracers and damage indicators

[fervent rose]

because damage fall offs are complicated and ever changing

[arctic grove]

$118 is cheap compared to Ascent Free-Roaming VR Experience for ($999 on steam)

[hot hedge]

Dear Electronics Art Team Please delete the stupid xm370a its annoying asf

[gilded wind]

publishers don't do much developing homie

[mild crystal]

I wanna learn hownto fly on 2042 but uts kinda hard

[gilded wind]

they don't need to dive THAT deep. But just let me know the AM40 is 26 damage out the barrel, and the M5 is 22, for example. Call it damage and display the damage per bullet value. Drop off and all that, sure I get it that's more complicated, and they can give that general idea with the "range" value as they do.

[acoustic verge]

I usually play shooter games by just focusing on leveling one gun at a time. I haven’t found one that is performing as well for me as the starting ar though I’m not sure what the name is right now but is that considered a decent enough gun to use for awhile or should I drop it once I start unlocking other ones?

[gilded wind]

Just change "Firepower" to "damage" and make the number the bullet damage at 0m

[acoustic verge]

I gave up after I killed my whole flight crew like three times in a row last night lmao. Door gunner for life.

[fervent rose]

that's one way to do it but i also think that is flawed

just showing 0m damage is misleading

[gilded wind]

that's the M5, definitely plenty solid. Try short barrel, subsonic rounds, LWG grip, and whatever your fav optic is

[gilded wind]

not as misleading as the AM40 showing "25 firepower" and the M5 showing 45 or whatever

[fervent rose]

well thats most likely an error

there are many ui errors

[acoustic verge]

Thanks!!! I really like the mid range scope so far and have just started to unlock the attachments as of last night. Appreciate the advice

[mild crystal]

U on ps4 or 5

[acoustic seal]

2042 could be a normal game and list the max and min damages (28@30m - 22@50m or whatever)

[acoustic verge]

So I feel like most of the range of engagements I’m getting into is a little farther out than say a shooter like cod, is the short barrel not going to be a little disadvantageous for firefights that happen at longer than average ranges?

[fervent rose]

doesnt matter, short barrel all the way

[acoustic verge]

I’m on 5 I tried to play it at launch on ps4 and deleted it shortly after lol

[mild crystal]

Are we able to play if im in ps4 @acoustic verge

[arctic grove]

You can only play with other ps4 users and Xbox 1 as well

[fervent rose]

@acoustic verge in very very long ranges theres situations where i'd not use short barrel like on the bsvm. but thats like 200+

[mild crystal]

Rip

[fervent rose]

but for general AR spraying, even to 100m, short barrel all the time

[acoustic seal]

if 2042 listed weapon stats like this, we'd probably have world peace https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/491715495905591306/1088965877396930580/14lioi1.jpg

[eager spire]

yeah, but instead DICE have to make up statistics that don't represent anything and are basically useless

[spare quest]

[fervent rose]

that's more ui work

[eager spire]

or, in a lot of cases, are just blatantly wrong

[fervent rose]

they have to have a graph for every fuckin ammo type due to plus system

[eager spire]

THEY GET PAID FOR IT

[arctic grove]

“How dare you ask for decent UI?”

[fervent rose]

right but they do the least work possible

[safe palm]

Not a fan of the plus system at all honestly

[fervent rose]

because EA wants to spend as little as possible

[spare quest]

Skill issue

[safe palm]

Fundamentally I don’t think it’s a good idea

[fervent rose]

i'm just explaining why we get what we get. they should invest more into it

they cheap out and we get a shit ui

[eager spire]

I agree, I think the plus system adds more issues than it solves.

[acoustic seal]

plus system could be fine, switching to other ammo types needs to not give you an extra ammo pool OR remove ammo switching

[fervent rose]

ammo types having different damage models is fucking dumb

[safe palm]

Nah it’s more than that

[fervent rose]

i hate it

[arctic grove]

Ammo switching is fine, just yeah remove the extra pool, or decrease it down to one extra mag of that type

[gilded wind]

it largely depends on the weapon, but for the most part no the short barrel will reduce velocity making it a little harder to lead at range, but same bullets to kill

[safe palm]

Plus system means there’s absolutely zero strategizing or specializing with weapon attachment builds

[spare quest]

[safe palm]

You can lug around 3 entirely different guns if you really want to

[acoustic seal]

there never was in the first place, every AR is a near identical turbo laser

[safe palm]

All of a sudden every goon with an assault rifle is effective at all ranges

[fervent rose]

you dont need to swap attachments to do that

the gunplay is that basic

[safe palm]

Close range, and I have a long range assault rifle? Well I guess I’ll just turn my gun into an smg

It’s dumb as hell

Let alone what its presence does to console control schemes

They couldn’t put the plus system button on the dpad because that’s where the gadgets go and you can’t have people editing their weapons when they’re trying to pull out their rocket launcher

[arctic grove]

I just hate how I can’t open my plus menu with L2 anymore

[safe palm]

So they put it on the left bumper

[arctic grove]

Hold triangle, use DPAD

like ytho

[safe palm]

Which is where grenades usually go

[fervent rose]

plus system controls like a dream on pc, sorry boys

[arctic grove]

Ah I see what you mean

[fervent rose]

side mouse button is so nice

[arctic grove]

Cause L2 is usually frags. That makes sense

[safe palm]

The only place grenades can go now is the dpad, and because the dpad again is where the gadgets go, you now have to equip grenades and manually throw them

Even if you turn on the auto throw it’s slow and clunky as hell because otherwise that would be an advantage over people without the option turned on

[arctic grove]

It was fine here too till the classes, I’m not too mad at it tho since it had to happen

[safe palm]

It’s a gameplay strategy dumpster fire and it clunkified the control scheme for the console base

[arctic grove]

That explains why I turned it on then automatically turned it off again. Figured it’d be like older games where you press it and your character just tosses the frag

[slow tulip]

BTW BF Bad company 2 was a lot better than BF2042

[gilded wind]

for example on the M5A3 (starter gun you're using), it's a 5-shot kill at <30m, 6-shot 30-75m, 7-shot 75m+, with the stock (standard) rounds, regardless of short, default, or ext barrel.

[acoustic seal]

tell us something we don't know

[gilded wind]

I agree with a lot of guns but there are definitely some that are fun to hot swap around attachments for various reasons

rorsch being the #1 obviously given that it's 3 entirely different guns

[safe palm]

It can be fun but it’s definitely not very conducive to battlefield style gameplay

[fervent rose]

i feel like thats only well done on 4-5 weapons

[gilded wind]

maybe YOUR style 😛

[safe palm]

No for real

[fervent rose]

and it just complicates the rest of the game for almost no good reason

and switching ammo types due to low individual pool is tedious

[safe palm]

It’s bad enough already with medics that can heal themselves sitting around with sniper rifles with infinite health and ammo boxes

Plus system eliminates the idea of careful loadout creation

[gleaming hull]

Anyone tryna play, ps5?

[safe palm]

Why try and specialize when I can specialize in everything?

[acoustic seal]

#lfg-playstation

[eager spire]

yeah it's just really fun when everyone can suddenly have a grenade launcher or a shotgun attachment on their gun, and can just do that whenever they feel like, as if you can predict that.

[fervent rose]

its very funny how the grenade launchers have 3(4) per slot

[arctic grove]

You should expect to get hit by something like a GL or masterkey if you chase a guy indoors after shooting him, or if you disengage from a gunfight by going into cover

Or at least I do anyways. I’m always thinking about something like that, but funny enough, people do NOT use the Masterkey and UBGLs that much (unless it’s the SFAR)

[fervent rose]

makes a ton of sense to spawn in with 9 nades on scar/ak

[acoustic seal]

so far i haven't even bothered with ubgls since you can take zain and sph at the same time

game design is my passion™️

[fervent rose]

por que no los dos

zain and ubgls

[arctic grove]

Yeah they gotta change the sph ubgl zain combo funny

[fervent rose]

you dont have to shoot a bullet

[acoustic seal]

by the time you blow your sph shots, the airburst mag will have already regenerated

[dire quarry]

god I hate the airburst

[eager spire]

okay but consider that i'm not gonna be expecting that literally every single time that scenario comes up because if i was expecting that then i'd never bother to do that for that reason and if i can't chase a guy who runs away from me after i shoot him or i can't actually trust the cover i got into after shooting someone and having to disengage, then i might as well just not play the fucking game because i can't do fucking anything

[fervent rose]

airburst is like the launch stealth heli. obnoxious and needs change

overtuned in all areas

fire rate, distance, aoe, damage, recharge rate, what does it do poorly

[acoustic verge]

Thanks for the tips y’all!

[arctic grove]

My point being whenever you enter a UBGL or a Masterkeys area where it’s a viable option, be aware of it, no matter the situation exactly

[acoustic seal]

they need to break off this idea of specialist gadgets always regenerating, you can't have infinite TGMs or airburst

[acoustic verge]

So what is y’all’s favorite map and why is it Exposure?

[arctic grove]

Lis losing regen might make me hate her less

[acoustic seal]

spearhead C tier, exposure and flashpoint D tier, all other maps F tier

[fervent rose]

old exposure was gold

[acoustic verge]

I just really like the cliffs in exposure haha. Diving off the D point to go get E is so incredibly fun lmao

[arctic grove]

Orbital, Manifest, Exposure are fun. I have massive burnout on Spearhead and Stranded so I hate them rn

[fervent rose]

but old exposure would probably be shit now anyway with zain

[arctic grove]

don’t think I’ve played a full stranded game in a bit….

[fervent rose]

[acoustic verge]

Exposure was the map I mentioned earlier where it took me way too many games to figure out that if the other team has D your ass is just never getting close to E unless you’re incredibly lucky lol. I got sniped by mfs on those cliffs so many times before I figured it out

[acoustic seal]

oh god i never touch conquest

there is not a good cq layout in this game

[arctic grove]

Orbital, Manifest, Exposure and new Hourglass are enjoyable. Not the biggest fan of the others in general, but I’ll play anything that isn’t Hourglass

[acoustic verge]

Isn’t that like the Battlefield mode??

I thought playing the giant conquest maps with 128 people was like the point of playing battlefield

[acoustic seal]

surprise! it's been shit since they forgot how to lay out maps for cq around bf5

[acoustic verge]

Oh lol I mean I haven’t quite noticed bc I’ve been extremely casual with BF always. I’m sure if you’re a hardcore player it’s more noticeable

[fervent rose]

yea there isn't a single decent conquest map in 2042 compared to 1 and 5

and 5 only had a handful of great conquest maps

[acoustic verge]

I have definitely noticed that the maps weirdly get flipped all the damn time though. Like why are my teammates not defending the closest point to our base but somehow holding the one on the whole ass other side of the map??

[acoustic seal]

it's not even a matter of casual vs hardcore as "i don't want to run through 200m of open nothingness and get sniped along the way"

[acoustic verge]

Haha I have to say that I expected way more of that than I’ve encountered so far

[arctic grove]

[acoustic verge]

I try to avoid sprinting across open fields since I usually do end up getting sniped lol.

[fervent rose]

and its either that or random assets with no real flow

[arctic grove]

There’s some deadzones in the maps but map knowledge is still important to have. If you’re crossing open spaces use a vehicle

I’m strictly referring to reworks with that btw, not discarded and hourglass

[acoustic verge]

The annoying thing for me is when it turns into like a hallway of dudes all trying to peak a corner vs another group of dudes doing the same thing from like 200m out so no one ends up actually moving just playing a weird game of chicken until one side wises up and just air strikes the other lol

[fervent rose]

game has too many long range open sight lines combined with the laser beam gunplay

you get killed very fast if you position yourself poorly

and the movement is clunky

[acoustic verge]

Shoot I wish I could get some of that laser beam gunplay lol. And I actually kinda like the quicker ttk in BF I always have especially since there’s revives

[fervent rose]

im just saying thats why the avg player is scared to move up

[wary portal]

i got one more week to go till im free.

[jade stratus]

mainly because of no engagement distances

like just yesterday I got outsniped by a pbx user

like bro snipers have no use in this game

[wary portal]

still with 7 weekly missions im gonna be rank 70 or 60. so i won't make it to finish this battle pass

[jade stratus]

just use an assault rifle or lmg

[fervent rose]

railgun is busted but otherwise i agree

the bolt actions are pointless in 2042

[jade stratus]

I can’t aim with it so yeah

[fervent rose]

i dont mind them being a "for fun, high skill" category though

better than bf1 sweet spot garbage

[jade stratus]

Aside from ntw but that’s kinda just an infantry tankgewehr

[fervent rose]

ye its a noob shitter cannon

[jade stratus]

I liked that only because of the martini

funny because I’d rather have that in bf1 than random bullet deviation

for some reason

[jade stratus]

using the ac42 with a distance build I outsnipe from 150+ meters

like bro damage falloff is a thing but it’s useless without engagement distance

[spare quest]

ok

[hybrid wren]

Did the a12 get nerfed to shit?

[wary portal]

man this sucks. maybe this battle pass ain't worth shit

[drowsy shuttle]

Lol

All battlepasses so far were only worth it 1 or 2 items

[jade stratus]

I just go until I have enough currency for the next time so I don’t have to give ea money

[jovial tusk]

any word on 128 breakthrough return?

[wary portal]

so how many seasons left before this games KIA.

[jovial tusk]

alot since there was a leak tht theres gonna be a another 4 seasons or year 2

[fervent rose]

who knows. there was a leak about year 2 but im waiting for a real announcement before i think thats real @wary portal

[wary portal]

so more seasons? maybe i still gonna killed time.

[jovial tusk]

yea thts wht 2 leaks said

[magic bloom]

I got the rao skin I wanted

[acoustic seal]

season 5 is verified to exist, "year 2" only exists as a half implemented dlc on origin

[hybrid totem]

But if we hope enough...

Then we can be disappointed for twice as long!

[frank sequoia]

Year 2 is the campaign

[wary portal]

ea still keeping this shitty game alive

[frank sequoia]

Game is dope

[wary portal]

so their gonna put a campaign this year?

[hybrid totem]

See how quickly misinformation disseminates

[arctic grove]

No

Turlur is either messing around or just doesn’t know, but no, 2042 isn’t getting a campaign

[limpid pond]

Bro the aim trainer is nice

It tells you the ttk and everything

[ruby saffron]

Games good now lol

[arctic grove]

Game can use the Year 2 and ideally the extra 3 seasons for the much needed polishing it needs. IF that’s what it’s given

I won’t argue with them extending the service life, assuming that’s how it’s used

[limpid pond]

Hopefully with the extended year service they'll actually make decent skins to sell. 70% of the skins they put in the shop no one would buy. If they're worried about money like they are they should put better cosmetics into the game along with more maps in general

[arctic grove]

Yep for sure

I’ll always dislike specialists but hell if they wanna make everything else better I’ll take it

They’ll eventually funnel in enough skins so I can make all mine look tacticool (I’m a free skin hoarder otherwise I’d buy some of the bundles I like)

[drowsy shuttle]

87 kills 12 deaths on conquest pearhead using SWS lvl 40... legit? I dunno.. maybe smurf...

[arctic grove]

Again?

Damn 90 to 12 is rather high

[drowsy shuttle]

Conquest not BT.. BT is easy

But conquest everybody is spread out

I dunno... i wouldnt put my hands on the fire

[sturdy socket]

lmao

[arctic grove]

Sheeeittt

Conquest?

[sturdy socket]

another game, another loser immediately locking the tor tank and using the massive hills to attempt to snipe a heli he just lost to

[drowsy shuttle]

Yeah.. thats the thing... also lvl 40

[sturdy socket]

changed my mind, can't wait for community servers to completely disable it

[arctic grove]

79% sure it’s a hacker then lol either that or he’s wicked at the game

[drowsy shuttle]

Yeah maybe smurf.. but i dunno..

Or maybe someone really talented.. but really really good fps players dont play battlefield 2042

With exception maybe for streamers

[hybrid totem]

Impressively insulting the entire player base

[acoustic seal]

have you seen this player base? they've earned it

[wary portal]

the fuck is year 2 about?

[karmic egret]

been playing 2042 for 21 hours (according to discord) the grind never stops

[acoustic seal]

idk man they'll probably put more infantry explosives in the game

everyone loves infantry explosives, right?

maybe another mav/cav clone

[drowsy shuttle]

lol sorry, but its true... usually those players play competitive games like cs go and things like that..

bf is and always will be a casual game

and thats okay.

[acoustic seal]

team fortress 2 is a casual game, battlefield is a shitter game

[drowsy shuttle]

funny enough i left tf2 for battlefield.. cause for me they are both casual games, just to spam and frag and pass the time without sweating

[hybrid totem]

"competitive" does not equal "good"

[cosmic sequoia]

2042 is the best game ever

[acoustic seal]

bf2042 is certainly one of the games of all time

[jolly gust]

RIP

[eager spire]

Team Fortress 2 is basically the peak of multiplayer shooters if you think about it

Especially class based ones

[ruby saffron]

One of the best shooters of the 2020s

With such stiff competition like… cod vanguard… halo infinite…

Truly games ever made

[next gulch]

CS Source was peak multiplayer shooters, that is if you're also a boomer

[ruby saffron]

CS 1.6 tho

[eager spire]

nah, see, CSS doesn’t have the fun factor that TF2 does.

[ruby saffron]

Real gamers remember when counter strike was called half life: counter strike

[eager spire]

And it just never will.

[acoustic seal]

someone didn't play on minigames servers

[woeful python]

is the game not launching for anyone else?

[acoustic seal]

it does that, you just have to keep retrying until it does launch

[hybrid totem]

Constantly. Takes me just an average of three to get a launch

[eager spire]

The game is just like that

Only God knows why, and even that’s debatable. Because DICE certainly doesn’t.

[woeful python]

usually it takes a couple tries but its been at leat 10

[ruby saffron]

Its immersive because everything in the 2042 universe is junk

[woeful python]

ha it just launched

[acoustic seal]

new in update 4.2: the chinese capacitors on the railgun have a chance of blowing up in your hand during extended use

[karmic egret]

LMAO

[ruby saffron]

Ngl tho 2042 is a pretty grim picture of the future

[woeful python]

lol

[eager spire]

if the future is anything like 2042 it’s gonna be badly programmed

[acoustic seal]

we're already in the future where everything is made out of Chrome(ium)

[ruby saffron]

Im thinking more along the lines of superstorms, global famine, endless war

[woeful python]

feels feasible tho

bruh absolute geniuses they make friday night battlefield the same game mode they already have in the rush playlist lol

[ruby saffron]

It must be awkward being a nopat tho, living on your supership yet fighting for different sides “hey i saw you”

[eager spire]

entirely unrelated but at some point I wanna get a shirt with this genuine quote from Battlefield 3 on it

“America was built by terrorists, for terrorists. What do you think the fuckin’ revolutionary war was?”

[ruby saffron]

Bf3 had some lines for sure

[eager spire]

It is genuinely the only thing I remember about BF3’s campaign

[acoustic seal]

i feel like you just kinda live with it in the mercenary life

honor among thieves sort of thing

[eager spire]

like in terms of lines that take up space in my head, that’s one of them

[ebon pilot]

rip this dozer

[copper fulcrum]

I mean it is in the name

"Dead Soldier"

[radiant prism]

Me

Not actually

But

Accurate dozer gameplay