thought metro was bf3
#battlefield-2042
tough folio
solar obsidian
dawnbreak was iconic
solar obsidian
thought metro was bf3
3 4 and 5
hexed mango
i cant wait for them to add a canted thermal, like a sight thats both thermal and not thermal
plain needle
That’ll be dope
solar obsidian
suddenly smoke launcher meta
tough folio
metro was in 5?
plain needle
2x with a canted Red dot or thermal would be dope
acoustic seal
smoke launcher is already the secret meta, gotta make your own cover on these maps
plain needle
smoke launcher is already the secret meta, gotta make your own cover on these ma...
Thought I was the only one
solar obsidian
remove blue color tint, take old assets and degrade them less, metro 4 done
solar obsidian
smoke launcher is already the secret meta, gotta make your own cover on these ma...
what is your framerate in game ?
acoustic seal
lol wut
solar obsidian
just curious
acoustic seal
lower than it should be
solar obsidian
its much if you are closer to 60 most of the times, compared to like 90+
it might be ideal to set your screen refresh rate to 60hz
even with gsync and freesync
hexed mango
javelin so fun
drowsy shuttle
Remove the fucking ranger from the game. Holy shit
solar obsidian
buff ranger
solar obsidian
its melting to high power ammo
drowsy shuttle
Id like to see the real ping we have.. i dont trust the latency that is showing in the scoreboard
acoustic seal
ranger should have like 1/10 of the hp it does now
whatever the boris turret has now
sterile flint
errrrr no
drowsy shuttle
ranger should have like 1/10 of the hp it does now
Seriously 1 magazine of an assault rifle doesnt even bring down half of his health at a distance of 10m
solar obsidian
you screen resolution increases the damage and life of ranger 🙂
@hexed mango
watch me launch this game in 8k 60fps
acoustic seal
errrrr no
nah, come and kill me yourself instead of getting the invincible aimbot dog to do it
drowsy shuttle
Ranger and boris turret are like moskitos and flies... they exist just to annoy people.
hexed mango
Seriously 1 magazine of an assault rifle doesnt even bring down half of his heal...
good.
sterile flint
nah, come and kill me yourself instead of getting the invincible aimbot dog to d...
ranger is def better in 3.2 patch finally. it's tendancy to shoot at things far away is irritating but at least it is more effective
solar obsidian
players using close combat mags and complain about low damage output to armored targets
high power does well against them
armor piercing is just a joke how easy they melt
sterile flint
it's almost like we have to use the tools available to us now
solar obsidian
it's almost like we have to use the tools available to us now
shh,
they expect everything can be beated easily by there own playstyle
eager spire
why would you ever use close combat mags
no seriously why would you ever do that.
do you gain anything from doing that
hexed mango
and seeing as there's only like 2 rangers max per team. why shouldnt it be effective
solar obsidian
and seeing as there's only like 2 rangers max per team. why shouldnt it be effec...
its THAT LOW ?!
eager spire
and seeing as there's only like 2 rangers max per team. why shouldnt it be effec...
- it's annoying
- it's annoying
- it's annoying
- i hate it
solar obsidian
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
hexed mango
yeah there are 2 per team
solar obsidian
that has to be the worst thing to cry about hahaahahaha
hexed mango
he a good boi
solar obsidian
he is my robo dog
acoustic seal
come and kill me yourself instead of getting the invincible robot dog to do it for you
same reason boris turret was thrown into the dumpster early on
hexed mango
boris needs a buff still
hexed mango
come and kill me yourself instead of getting the invincible robot dog to do it f...
again. 2 per team. 2.
solar obsidian
come and kill me yourself instead of getting the invincible robot dog to do it f...
"i cant handle the game mechanics, so i try some cod 1v1 mental breakdown on how to solve things"
acoustic seal
same cringe as mortars in the games before it
low effort mechanic that rewards you kills for some reason
solar obsidian
low effort mechanic that rewards you kills for some reason
"uhh no my ads time its a tiny bit slower"
acoustic seal
the ads change was stupid for entirely different reasons
hexed mango
"uhm actually" 🤓
eager spire
it was stupid because it was cosmetic and also made the game feel bad for basically no reason, and also the weapons designer was quoted as not being sure if that was the right direction to take, but implemented it into the game anyway, only for it to be announced that it's getting reverted after 3 days.
hexed mango
so in the end its getting removed hence why so butthurt in one of the biggest updates in the game
eager spire
Also, giving a shit about this over a year into the game's life is a bit late to suddenly decide that this is a problem, and also, why is this a problem but the LMG's are fine
eager spire
so in the end its getting removed hence why so butthurt in one of the biggest up...
It's getting removed because people complained. To be frank, this and the sprint to fire change are the only issues with the patch that i can see.
solar obsidian
It's getting removed because people complained. To be frank, this and the sprint...
yeah the black screen and ads bug with sfar are not an issue 😄
acoustic seal
It's getting removed because people complained. To be frank, this and the sprint...
600m better turn rate lis missile has entered the chat
eager spire
yeah the black screen and ads bug with sfar are not an issue 😄
WITH THE PATCH.
WITH THE PATCH.
solar obsidian
black screen actually started this patch
eager spire
600m better turn rate lis missile has entered the chat
that is in the realm of "why did you buff this"
solar obsidian
at least for my squad
eager spire
ADS bug with the SFAR is not a new issue.
solar obsidian
i know
solar obsidian
just amazed how that game breaking glitch is still there 😄
hexed mango
yeah i know, and it is annoying. to which i agree. but my issue lies with people saying "one step forward, 2-3 steps back" like is this not singularly the biggest game changing updates ever
obviously, the issues persist, and im not justifying them, but i mean idk the complaining about stuff that doesnt necessarily take away from the massive good the update has is just annoying to me
(but yeah glad ads is being reversed, and please fix sfar bug)
solar obsidian
Black screen, never heard of it prior to now.
when you quit a match to main menu, sometimes the screen just goes black like infinite loading
happens for all in my squad, me included
eager spire
yeah i know, and it is annoying. to which i agree. but my issue lies with people...
I mean "one step forward, 3 steps back" is basically DICE's M.O. at this point.
hexed mango
yet this update is not one step forward, its a massive step forward. and while the ads bug is annoying, its not 3 entire steps back.
solar obsidian
patch is great yeah,
eager spire
On it's own, no.
acoustic seal
gadget restrictions did not change the game in the way you think they did
hexed mango
yeah they quite did.
acoustic seal
the most contested mechanic was specialist abilities which were mostly untouched
eager spire
i remember when people were saying this update was gonna be a vehicle buff
hexed mango
yeah but the pairing of those gadgets with the open gadgets.
solar obsidian
ammo and health crates for everybody was nice they got rid of that
eager spire
and then they added the javelin/tracer dart combo.
eager spire
ammo and health crates for everybody was nice they got rid of that
they also got rid of like, ammo stations on the map like BFV
hexed mango
i mean ive been seeing a lot of healing in 3.2, not as much ammo, but more healing and reviving than before
solar obsidian
yeah
white ginkgo
yo real talk my weed taste like perfume i dont got time to ask reddit do i put the shit out orrrr
beyond off topic ik
eager spire
yo real talk my weed taste like perfume i dont got time to ask reddit do i put t...
do we look like the weed discord to you
solar obsidian
yo real talk my weed taste like perfume i dont got time to ask reddit do i put t...
stop showering in axe deodorant
white ginkgo
fuck the closest to my keyboard
zexten thats wrong
i melt it like cheese on the stove then fill the tub and bathe in axe deodorant
hexed mango
pass it
hexed mango
to me
eager spire
but yeah, DICE has a really annoying habit of having decent ideas, using them, and then forgetting about them. Either that, or they'll have a few good ideas, but there's just some major thing that's fucked up that brings down the whole experience.
hexed mango
same
white ginkgo
except theyre only good ideas in my mind
hexed mango
sure...
eager spire
There's a reason why i say that DICE's M.O. is "One step forward, 3 steps back", because that's generally what ends up happening. They never seem to keep good ideas around.
white ginkgo
and forget cause of the adderall motivation
charred stag
Do you guys think we'll be able to customize vault weapons next season?
white ginkgo
There's a reason why i say that DICE's M.O. is "One step forward, 3 steps back",...
ill stop disrespecting ur ted talk i get what u mean
eager spire
Do you guys think we'll be able to customize vault weapons next season?
doubt it
charred stag
Aw
solar obsidian
but yeah, DICE has a really annoying habit of having decent ideas, using them, a...
different players have different opinion on how they want there game to be played, what meta they want, and so on,
white ginkgo
i mean we can, but barely
eager spire
different players have different opinion on how they want there game to be playe...
I mean, there are things that i feel are generally considered good ideas.
charred stag
Yeah but I mean skin and charm wise
solar obsidian
the complaining will never stop even if dice throw out a 10/10 game in pure polish and cotent
solar obsidian
I mean, there are things that i feel are generally considered good ideas.
i see the quick attachment switch as a brilliant idea,
some dont
white ginkgo
products will always have a reason for someone to complain, no one nor anything is perfect thats just the way it is i agree with you zexten
arctic grove
Ammo stations on the map from BFV. Good idea.
Taking ammo and HP off supports/medics from V
eager spire
The Plus System is interesting but poses problems for balance.
arctic grove
Also it’s squad management stuff
cyan trout
I disagree I think it would stop if dice put out polished content on release
white ginkgo
imagine how funny this shit would get with prox chat between both teams
solar obsidian
The Plus System is interesting but poses problems for balance.
i truly give zero fuck about balance, non of battlefield games have been remotely balanced,
arctic grove
I disagree I think it would stop if dice put out polished content on release
Updates would be like 3 months apart probably lol
white ginkgo
i could imagine the condor bombers just screaming at me as they ram
eager spire
i truly give zero fuck about balance, non of battlefield games have been remotel...
I quite like things to be balanced.
hexed mango
plus system needs to be in the next game
eager spire
I think things being unbalanced is not very fun.
hexed mango
or else im not buying yo
solar obsidian
yes, but its just not possible in a game with this scale, and the outcry for so many gadgets to bee there
eager spire
Just because people want some things to be there doesn't mean they should be.
solar obsidian
something will just be better than the rest,
white ginkgo
do i spend money on the shop and regret it in a month like i did with mw2?
yes, yes i do
hexed mango
nope
white ginkgo
bro
drowsy shuttle
plus system needs to be in the next game
Pretty sure.they going to put it in future battlefields. Its the best feature of the game.
white ginkgo
ur supposed to pressure me into buying
solar obsidian
balance a game is such an impossible task, as a dev you mostly just tuning down whatever is good and overused, and buff the underused
hexed mango
Pretty sure.they going to put it in future battlefields. Its the best feature of...
concur
arctic grove
Buy more boins
queen trout
It’s a good things they brought classes back
hexed mango
no
cyan trout
If division 2 can somewhat balance pvp and pve. Battlefield should be able to balance a PvP only game.
eager spire
balance a game is such an impossible task, as a dev you mostly just tuning down ...
I mean i donno, i could probably balance a game well.
how hard can it be.
white ginkgo
If division 2 can somewhat balance pvp and pve. Battlefield should be able to ba...
whats division
hexed mango
you say that but you wont
solar obsidian
and even then if the meta suddenly change, because some found the best playstyle, tons will mimick that
white ginkgo
you say that but you wont
i will i need to find somewhere i can send screenshots
solar obsidian
I mean i donno, i could probably balance a game well.
if you honestly could that you would work as a game dev in some large company earning massive amount of money
eager spire
if you honestly could that you would work as a game dev in some large company ea...
i mean working for the game industry is fucking trash though
hexed mango
lel
eager spire
like, seriously.
solar obsidian
i mean working for the game industry is fucking trash though
only if you are the one who can be replaced
cyan trout
Division is a staple of Ubisoft and Massive.
hexed mango
make ur own game then if you have the epic abilities of balance
solar obsidian
same as any other competitive buisness
eager spire
make ur own game then if you have the epic abilities of balance
lol.
hexed mango
thats what im tryna do in college lel
sterile flint
can you say heli admin from bf4
copper fulcrum
i mean working for the game industry is fucking trash though
Working is trash
solar obsidian
if you are good enough at something, you get to be a sought after as worker
drowsy shuttle
MTAR is good but not great.
solar obsidian
if you suddenly get fired
hexed mango
vault weapon 🤢
solar obsidian
you can easily find another place to work
eager spire
Working is trash
i mean yeah but not having money sucks shit
cyan trout
Sounds like you haven't worked much. Set the bar low going in so you always exceed expectations but not to the point of being taken advantage of
eager spire
you can easily find another place to work
I have my doubts.
eager spire
Sounds like you haven't worked much. Set the bar low going in so you always exce...
I don't wanna set the bar low.
I don't wanna waste my damn time.
hexed mango
so dont
white ginkgo
https://imgur.com/snNIyQ5 say i wont
cyan trout
Enjoy doing everyone else's work too then
hexed mango
first step: get off discord 
copper fulcrum
https://imgur.com/snNIyQ5 say i wont
ok
solar obsidian
I have my doubts.
take a look at the most important personal in most devs team, they either tend to stay for a good while, or change to other dev teams
they dont have around without job
nothing wrong with being fired after a job is done, either through contract ending or just you getting replaced
but if you are good enough, you properly wont be replaced at all
white ginkgo
bro ea charged my card a dollar and then said it cant verify
scammerz
IT DID IT AGAIN
BRO?
copper fulcrum
If it can't verify then they're not taking your money lol
white ginkgo
i wAnT my 2 DOLLARTH!! 🤓
solar obsidian
poor one
hexed mango
what did you say
white ginkgo
ik its gonna refund
eager spire
@solar obsidian i mean i've had a family member who worked with a company for years only to get laid off. he can't get a job anywhere else at this point, because according to every job he's applied for, he's "overqualified".
white ginkgo
im not this slow lol im just toying cause its rejecting
solar obsidian
<@178211744785629184> i mean i've had a family member who worked with a company ...
if he is overqualified most of the places he is aiming too low for his search for work,
if he cant find one with his qualifications, he can take a cut and work at a lesser role
eager spire
if he is overqualified most of the places he is aiming too low for his search fo...
i mean he's looking for places that are closer to where we live. also he's doing the latter but he's still getting the "overqualified" schtick.
solar obsidian
shame
eager spire
it's ridiculous.
hexed mango
quite crazy
perhaps he could work for somewhere virtually?
or is the skillset different
vague nexus
Is the UI Resolution bug on resolutions above 1920x1080 ever going to be looked at?
solar obsidian
Is the UI Resolution bug on resolutions above 1920x1080 ever going to be looked ...
bug ?
white ginkgo
wow
vague nexus
I know that 75% of players still use 1080 and will not likely go above but come on
solar obsidian
explain
solar obsidian
https://i.imgur.com/u2wKyG4.png
spicry
vague nexus
The UI at 2560x1440 or above is just blurry
solar obsidian
hmm
i not noticed that on my 4k screen, have you tried tooling around with windows scaling tool ?
vague nexus
can you screenshot your main menu real quick for me
vague nexus
DM me with it when you can
solar obsidian
its not happening today 😄
vague nexus
I'm patient
I've checked this on three independent PCs
With various monitors, and it's still happening
Maybe the issue is with 1440, but 4k and 1080 work fine?
Although if they do have 4k icons it would be better to downscale them to 1440 and not make blurry 1080 icons on 1440
white ginkgo
bro this is not okay
remote kiln
Is the UI Resolution bug on resolutions above 1920x1080 ever going to be looked ...
doesn't need to be looked at, it's your high DPI scaling, not the game, override it
white ginkgo
EA just signed me into my paypal i did not enter jack shit but the email and restarted the process
vague nexus
doesn't need to be looked at, it's your high DPI scaling, not the game, override...
I do not have high DPI scaling on
white ginkgo
im tweakin tweakin yo
remote kiln
I do not have high DPI scaling on
yes, switch it on lol
vague nexus
This monitor is not high-dpi, though?
granite island
white ginkgo
i like how when im buying points "great game garuntee: Not Eligible"
lmfao
kinda wack of EA to put that onto 2042 products the game is good
- flex 5k bfc
good chunk of labor
ok fine i hate you too
schizo ahh
solar obsidian
arctic grove
You mean
white ginkgo
lmfao
remote kiln
it's literally a microtransaction, they can't put that by law lol
solar obsidian
skill issue
white ginkgo
so yeah kinda
i had to use the same card it was declining EXCEPT on the paypal portal
like ok..
def skill issue
was in front of my face
vague nexus
that is high DPI
its only got 10dpi more than my 1080 monitor? I use windows with 100% scale on everything and everything except 2042 looks good
white ginkgo
the problem is 1080p
vague nexus
27" * 2560x1440 = 108dpi, 24" * 1920x1080 = 96dpi?
arctic grove
game shit pants when I get into intensive areas on the map
white ginkgo
but how much for that crack cause where the fuck u coming up with this math
vague nexus
but how much for that crack cause where the fuck u coming up with this math
how do you think DPI is calculated?
remote kiln
its only got 10dpi more than my 1080 monitor? I use windows with 100% scale on e...
isn't how you calculate it, it's a process called pixel per inch
remote kiln
PPI not DPI
vague nexus
PPI not DPI
yeah sorry, not DPI, i used the name because you said "high dpi" and dots and pixels can be used interchangeably with lcd monitors, its not a printer
remote kiln
yeah sorry, not DPI, i used the name because you said "high dpi" and dots and pi...
the setting is called high DPI, the calculation is not
vague nexus
okay, where do I turn it on then, let's test it
white ginkgo
yall making me think bruh
say shit i understand
i wanna watch u talk
moves to dm
remote kiln
white ginkgo
wait should i do that just because i did it in rust too
like does that actually make a difference in anything
solar obsidian
hey looks thats what i was sending him 10 min ago
remote kiln
if you don't have scaling issues don't do it
white ginkgo
nope
im gucci
damn i bought the credits now im just sitting here
did it to flex
vague nexus
I did that, that's what I thought. It did not do anything.
white ginkgo
real big kid shit
vague nexus
My monitor is not high dpi.
remote kiln
my guy anything above 1080p is considered high PPI
vague nexus
PPI is the density of the pixels not the resolution.
vague nexus
If you spread 2 pixels over 2 inches you've got 1 PPI, if you spread the same 2 pixels over 1 inch you get 2 PPI. Pixels stay the same, PPI changes.
white ginkgo
so 1080 is bound to be ass for me
remote kiln
dude PPI is the calculation, DPI is the calculation the OS performs when subdividing a render
it has nothing to do with what you're thinking
white ginkgo
If you spread 2 pixels over 2 inches you've got 1 PPI, if you spread the same 2 ...
PPI is literally the amount of pixels per inch on your monitor
you cant remove pixels
you can change the resolution
but the pixels will always be there
vague nexus
Okay, If an application is scaled incorrectly, will it render 3D correctly despite rendering raster images and text wrong?
white ginkgo
it means you are trying to run a game not in native resolution probably without your gpu scaling settings set up but this is just IMO
remote kiln
it's the HUD area and associated render text only, it's not the only game that this happens with
white ginkgo
just a thought
remote kiln
or software, infact far from it
vague nexus
it means you are trying to run a game not in native resolution probably without ...
I am running the game in 2560x1440, my monitor's native resolution.
white ginkgo
im gonna guess you recently re installed correct?
i had fucky issues after re install non stop
remote kiln
and actually make sure you reboot the game when switching on scaling
white ginkgo
you have to delete the config file from the documents bf2042 folder, repair the files and it fixed any issues i had but also reset every setting and keybind
vague nexus
It happens in, nor has ever happened in, any other game or software except SWBF2 and BF1. I did not play BFV, but it seems like someone thinks >1080 players are margin enough that it's not worth making proper GUI over that res.
remote kiln
yeah, for you
remote kiln
it's called occurrence probability my guy
vague nexus
On three separate desktops with three different 1440p monitors.
remote kiln
ok?
white ginkgo
okay okay now im smelling fish
vague nexus
Deco, what resolution do you play on?
remote kiln
the same as you lol
white ginkgo
480x480\
vague nexus
Okay, is the main menu sharp for you?
remote kiln
yes
white ginkgo
yes
vague nexus
Okay, can you show a screenshot of your main menu to me?
white ginkgo
i will too
vague nexus
My DMs are open.
vague nexus
okay
white ginkgo
opening sec
remote kiln
I'm not on my pc right now
white ginkgo
i got him dw
solar obsidian
@vague nexus you gotten the almost exact same answer from two people in here,
remote kiln
old one I've just found
white ginkgo
dont mind the shadows on the character im using a performance cfg
vague nexus
you have the exact same issue as I do. It is the game's fault. 100%.
solar obsidian
you have a problem, we trying to help, dont argue that you dont have a high dpi monitor
white ginkgo
this is my game 1440p
vague nexus
Just look at the text sharpness on this screenshot.
vague nexus
It is not, it looks exactly the same as mine
white ginkgo
bro dont tell me ur talking about the SLIGHT fuzz around text
how fucking OCD are you
remote kiln
their target sc resolution is 1080p..
vague nexus
EA is targeting 1080
white ginkgo
mainstream is 1080 thats why its designed that way
yes
because 90% of gamers have 1080
vague nexus
then how any other game can properly handle high resolutions?
vague nexus
because 90% of gamers have 1080
that's the argument I started with
solar obsidian
then how *any* other game can properly handle high resolutions?
thats also a lie though
solar obsidian
*anno does so any other game must"
white ginkgo
gta v doesnt support 1440p ui
remote kiln
it doesnt, that's why high DPI scaling exists
vague nexus
its small in 3 but it does work well
vague nexus
gta v doesnt support 1440p ui
it does?
vague nexus
it doesn't look as blurry as 2042
remote kiln
no he's correct my guy it doesn't support 1440p for the rendered UI on GTA v
solar obsidian
did is popcorn worthy
white ginkgo
lmao zexten
bros tried to call me out saying im new 😦 mfk im back after the failed launch
battlepass worth it or just buy shop shi?
vague nexus
ffs, these icons are rasterized vectors, same with the font. All EA would have to do to "fix" this is to render them at a higher DPI (yes I used that correctly) and then downscale it for 1080p. Not so hard to do.
solar obsidian
it doesn't look as blurry as 2042
but if that tiny amount of blurring of text are annoying,
try take a look at how your response times are on the monitor, and how blurry stuff looks in motion
white ginkgo
ffs, these icons are rasterized vectors, same with the font. All EA would have ...
but who says theyre using adobe illustrate to create their UI 
eager spire
Even UI in god damned BF3 and 4 looks better.
UI in BF3 is literally not designed for resolutions above 720p.
arctic grove
battlepass worth it or just buy shop shi?
Well I mean the shop is meant to have the better cosmetics, but if you see something you like in the Battlepass go ahead
white ginkgo
bros talking vectors
remote kiln
I really doubt you have a clue how the subdivision actually works
white ginkgo
sorry for the rudeness
solar obsidian
UI in BF3 is literally not designed for resolutions above 720p.
im getting flashback to dragon age 1
vague nexus
I really doubt you have a clue how the subdivision actually works
no I really don't. maybe I can't express myself correctly but I do believe I might have some idea in how lcd monitors work
white ginkgo
but if that tiny amount of blurring of text are annoying,
try take a look at ...
thats related to refresh rate, hes talking about the sharpness of the image
vague nexus
considering that's the stuff i major in
white ginkgo
that would be based on the topic of "why do the pictures on my game look like im watching a scratched up CD in 2010"
remote kiln
no I really don't. maybe I can't express myself correctly but I do believe I mig...
sorry my guy you don't, your description of that is infact entirely wrong for how HUD overlays work (there is no rendered icon, it's a vector)
solar obsidian
thats related to refresh rate, hes talking about the sharpness of the image
its related to both framerate, refresh rate, and how all lcd monitors have this persistent blur,
and then we have the difference in quality of the response time of our monitors that can make or break a picture in motion
vague nexus
but it looks like it's not
white ginkgo
sorry my guy you don't, your description of that is infact entirely wrong for ho...
well shucks i learned something new, i called him out for saying vectors my fault @vague nexus for that matter
remote kiln
you know what happens with static images when in motion?
they fuck up and don't work
vague nexus
but some things are done properly!
for example the splash screen
before the game loads? that looks correct. and it's a 2d image! how did they do that, huh?
white ginkgo
its related to both framerate, refresh rate, and how all lcd monitors have this ...
and i get that, i know what you mean im just saying for his specific matter hes upset about the text in the menus, if you cant match refresh rate in the menus bruh shouldnt even be trying to play the game
vague nexus
it **can't** be
of course it can be, it's a 2d texture, of course it can be pre-rendered
remote kiln
please stop making things up
white ginkgo
its related to both framerate, refresh rate, and how all lcd monitors have this ...
ive got 165 hz, i started on shit pc ik how it works brodie no need to explain 💯
vague nexus
it probably is but I have no idea why it would be as that is neither saving memory nor runtime resources
solar obsidian
and i get that, i know what you mean im just saying for his specific matter hes ...
refresh rate is not the issue he is having,
im just trying to explain he is having such a non issue, compared to how his game looks the moment he moves the aim
remote kiln
you're just saying words when you clearly don't have a clue how the frostbite engine actually works for rendering
white ginkgo
refresh rate is not the issue he is having,
im just trying to explain he is ha...
mrrrrr i knowwww
vague nexus
sure, I don't know.
white ginkgo
we are talking of the same thing now
zexten long story short were on the same page now sorry lmfao
remote kiln
good then don't make inaccurate claims which aren't true
vague nexus
ffs, that was sarcasm, I am majoring in graphics. I. know. how. monitors. and. 3d. rendering. works.
solar obsidian
if the game was not a competitive multiplayer game i would had played it with 60hz and bfi turned on,
white ginkgo
i-
bro 60hz is so unplayable to me
i look at a 60hz phone and literally get nauseous
next onyx
I don't think 60 is bad as long as it's stable.
remote kiln
are you sure? because what you should know is prerendered images when put into something that has geometrical space (e.g. a game) becomes a blurry mess, because it's 2D
you can't scale 3D and 2D dude
solar obsidian
bro 60hz is so unplayable to me
we use limit cap to 59.98 or what is JUST under our refresh rate at 60hz to reach lower inputlag
vague nexus
are you sure? because what you should know is prerendered images when put into s...
and that is exactly why you use vector-based fonts and icons
for gui
vague nexus
if it did it wouldn't be blurry
remote kiln
no dude, it's not what you're thinking
next onyx
Hey Deco say a cap my frames to 60, will I get the same response from my mouse and keyboard as if it's running on 165 Hz?
vague nexus
or perhaps someone messed up the part of the game that's responsible for rendering those 2d vector images and fonts
solar obsidian
I don't think 60 is bad as long as it's stable.
point is that 60fps looks better when matched with a 60hz refresh rate, compared to a 120+ refresh rate running 60fps
white ginkgo
even if i pull 70 or 80fps im still personally running 165hz otherwise i whif any form of mouse interaction cause the mouse slows as well i just learned to love no Vsync, Freesync, and sometimes dipping way below refresh rate but that just me yesssir
remote kiln
Hey Deco say a cap my frames to 60, will I get the same response from my mouse a...
for your keyboard and mouse yes, the polling rate doesn't change, what changes is the interrupt rate
in that it's slower
the end response will be processed slower, but there's no slowdown from the input
white ginkgo
mainly because of playing the game rust, mouse movement in menus with freesync 80-90hz was a pain
i have an idea
if we all just hopped into a game
we would all be content
Edit for the dummies:
in a state of peaceful happiness.
"he seemed more content, less bitter"
vague nexus
let's establish one thing. we can take a vector "image" of a line, which has got a set width, let's say this line is diagonal. if we render it on a 200x200 raster and then upscale that raster to 400x400 it's gonna be a bit blurry, depending on the kind of scaling algorithm we use, right?
but we can also render that vector line on a 400x400 raster, which makes it as sharp as it can be.
what i'm saying is bf2042's fonts and images are rendered on the same raster on high res as they are on low res. And I think the issue is deep within the engine (which makes sense) and is the reason why the same issue can be noticed in swbf2 and bf1
solar obsidian
@vague nexuswhats your monitor ?
white ginkgo
let's establish one thing. we can take a vector "image" of a line, which has got...
but iann dior
plain hare
EOD bot
remote kiln
what you'll find dude is rendering at 1080p is the standard across games
vague nexus
yes, I said that in the beginning
remote kiln
it's then upscaled accordingly, 1080p isn't low DPI, it scales linearly with 1440p and 4k
vague nexus
what you'll find dude is rendering at 1080p is the standard across games
frostbite was developed with this in mind, of course
white ginkgo
ive learned from observation that u guys are conflicting for no reason, he understands it and so do you 😦 theres nothing we can do about the UI other than leave a note in #948574259209437264 pls 😦
remote kiln
there's no conflict
white ginkgo
my anxiety says otherwise i feel the tension lmfao
vague nexus
downscaling creates alias and upscaling creates blur
remote kiln
that's just you my guy
white ginkgo
u right
remote kiln
we're having a normal conversation
white ginkgo
i should see a psychiatrist huh
vague nexus
which is why the raster for rendering 2d vector images for ui should take the resolution into account and not scale the rasterized textures afterwards
white ginkgo
schizo prolly
solar obsidian
@vague nexuswhats your monitor? 😄
white ginkgo
@vague nexus yaknow.... dice is hiring
be the change u wanna seeee!!!!!!!!! oh yeah! but dont forget about me
gime alllll da battlebield bredits
remote kiln
the scaling is done by the OS, not by the game
vague nexus
i believe the rasterization system within frostbite was designed around 1080p perhaps with downscaling for smaller resolutions too. then 1080p+ was solved as an afterthought
vague nexus
the scaling is done by the OS, not by the game
wouldn't rasterization be handled by the graphics library or the gpu directly, though?
rather than the OS
vague nexus
yeah dx12 is windows to some degree but it's wrong to call it an os still, its a graphics library still
remote kiln
the scaling call is done by the OS, DX calls the OS
vague nexus
but the engine probably still controls the raster resolution for rendering vector images
regardles of what actually does the rasterization
remote kiln
it doesn't
white ginkgo
guys i’m aboard the choo choo poo poo train y’all proud?
vague nexus
hence why an example game, anno 1800, can do it differently using the same libraries, it has sharp text, even on 9k
remote kiln
if it did it would be a mess
accounting for 400 different combinations with granularity is extraordinarily difficult, and would be impossible to do by a game development studio handling their own rasterisation
vague nexus
if it did it would be a mess
according to MSDN you do rasterization yourself through directX
white ginkgo
🇭
🇸
balmy basin
How do I get my old controls back?
vague nexus
according to MSDN you do rasterization yourself through directX
as in you specify the parameters for it, etc
remote kiln
according to MSDN you do rasterization yourself through directX
yes - the rasterisation of textures, UI elements are not textures
white ginkgo
herpewees
remote kiln
they are separate
white ginkgo
hercules*
white ginkgo
idk i just got back from 2022
vague nexus
yes - the rasterisation of textures, UI elements are not textures
aren't UI elements vectors that get rasterized somewhere along the line (because they have to in order to be displayed on the screen)
white ginkgo
No I mean how do I get the control scheme from before the update?
i HAD to delete config and repair files
vague nexus
but separately from 3D
white ginkgo
til i did that everything was just not possible
remote kiln
yes, they're not part of the texture asset class
drowsy shuttle
Is everybody sleeping on the aks 74u or its me that im good?
remote kiln
if they were 1: the game would perform like shit
vague nexus
and pixel-based UI elements probably aren't rasterized at all
as in they're just painted on
in a low-level sense
remote kiln
yeah, it's an overlay
vague nexus
yeah ofc, that's why the images stay sharp
so it's just a problem with rendering/rasterization of 2d vector images and fonts (which are also 2d vectors)
and its obviously not an issue within dx itself since other games do it fine
so probably an engine issue
remote kiln
I get what you're trying to say but your wording is throwing me off
vague nexus
which means it either gets fixed in the next frostbite, or never will
vague nexus
I get what you're trying to say but your wording is throwing me off
english isn't my first language, that's probably why
remote kiln
no problem
vague nexus
but if someone takes this to a frostbite dev
maybe, just maybe they'll at least confirm it or deny, if it's even worth their time and there's a huge chance nobody will pay for it since, as you said, 90%+ of players are either on 1080, or sit far away enough from their 4k TV hooked to their console not to notice this
and then would require an engine update to a released game...
yeah not happening
balmy basin
I don't know what they did to the controls but it's giving me suicidal identations
remote kiln
well you got the second part of the equation with consoles
vague nexus
i mean you haven't noticed and you use a 1440p monitor
so it's just me and my OCD then
solar obsidian
i havent noticed either, and im here on 4k
vague nexus
well, good enough reason as any to not sit in the main menu and play the game instead
a scale slider for the HUD would be cool tho
and not only for this reason
balmy basin
Does anyone have a screenshot of the control screen from before the update?
remote kiln
there's a more call it sinister reason you shouldnt stay in the main menu than that oddly
vague nexus
really
balmy basin
I have no idea why in God's name they had to modify that but Jesus Christ
remote kiln
yes, that background you see isn't a 2D render, it's actually rendering a map in the background
vague nexus
of course it is
remote kiln
the full 3D geometry and textures on the actual game map
vague nexus
it's more flashy this way
remote kiln
tldr it eats your card's power
vague nexus
i was wondering if it loads a full map or just a frustrum culled part since the camera's static
vague nexus
tldr it eats your card's power
yeah i can hear that
vague nexus
oh ffs why wouldn't they cut out the part that's seen
that's just a waste of loading time
remote kiln
your guess is as good as mine
vague nexus
that's even more frustrating than blurry rasterization
remote kiln
you can enter console and enter camera freecam mode and explore it, just a waste of resources
vague nexus
my hobby in the future is gonna be joining companies, fixing bugs which are irritating for me but too small to be reasonable to fix when someone has to pay for it, and immediately leaving
i mean
maybe i could just
learn hacking, and just make a cheat that fixes this
vague nexus
learn hacking, and just make a cheat that fixes this
and other stuff
it's how sometimes game cracks also patch certain bugs
becuase the crackers were too fed up waiting for devs to fix stuff
remote kiln
er it's rare unless the source code has been compromised
black box reversing is its own landmine
vague nexus
unfortunately if you try that you'll get fired
if they don't roll back the fix then it's a price to be paid
vague nexus
sigh, i wish we went back to times of building software because we wanted useful stuff and not to fit into quarterly profit
anyway
vague nexus
my issue is fixed through finding out it's probably too deep and too minor to fix
vague nexus
hasn't been that way in decades
yeah, i'm missing times i wasn't even around to remember
solar obsidian
it called being a kid
vague nexus
i'm 22 :/
remote kiln
even hobby software is corporate more or less from the getgo
time is money after all
white ginkgo
fire team bundle, yae or nae? will i just be a glowstick..
solar obsidian
i mean back in times when we did not care about issues in games¨'
we did not have a baseline for what was good or bad
vague nexus
even hobby software is corporate more or less from the getgo
yeah, and we have courses about it at uni
solar obsidian
we just played what was fun and what we had
remote kiln
what you'll find that course doesn't teach you is that someone's time isn't free, and there's a cost for everything in development
vague nexus
we did not have a baseline for what was good or bad
golden age for me was from minecraft, skyrim, through bf3 and dying light 1, those were good games
solar obsidian
i feel old
remote kiln
software engineers aren't millionaires, most of them aren't anyways, and their time is a resource
vague nexus
what you'll find that course doesn't teach you is that someone's time isn't free...
yeah but people even 10 years ago could still get paid from making stuff they enjoy instead of stuff being calculated for maximum profit
remote kiln
it was the very rare occasion my guy
vague nexus
it's not the engineer's fault but the manager's
remote kiln
people back then didn't make a living on what they built
only a select few, the ones who got popular did
and it's partly responsible for the landmine mess we have today because of scrappy foundations
vague nexus
was it worse than what we have now? what with all the microtransactions and battlepasses stuffed everywhere? and making games barely good enough for release and fixing them for 2 years after?
remote kiln
far worse yes
code was indecipherable, non documented, using what a developer wanted and nobody cared about standardisation or took the time to care
solar obsidian
was it worse than what we have now? what with all the microtransactions and batt...
10 years ago was the time ea and other publishers tried to pull off online passes and bonus content behind a single use code in brand new games,
it was ideally a 10 euro fee for all used games
remote kiln
as much shit as I give corporations, compared to back then it's a night and day difference
if we had those times now, the game wouldn't work on half of configurations period
and nobody would care about it either
arctic grove
95% of the software developed now isn't even seen by the average person
vague nexus
code was indecipherable, non documented, using what a developer wanted and nobod...
i've got an exam coming up (on wednesday) about "process management in software engineering"
i've read a 1500+ page on standards and documentation
this gives me ptsd right now
remote kiln
a lot of that only came into existence in the last 20~ years
and is impossible to put in for already built stuff
next onyx
Roller coaster tycoon on god damn assembly code.
solar obsidian
some of the 3d games on pc in the 90s hardware hell
next onyx
And then that was translated into a different format for other devices.
arctic grove
Roller coaster tycoon on god damn assembly code.
This is still one of the most bonkers coding facts I know
remote kiln
And then that was translated into a different format for other devices.
actually was just assembly
vague nexus
but the good times, the skyrims and the battlefield threes, what do we have now that's better and not a money-making scheme packed with fees
except indies
remote kiln
you don't need cross translation from assembly
remote kiln
but the good times, the skyrims and the battlefield threes, what do we have now ...
red tinted glasses my guy
they were all messes too
kindred flint
tfw m16 out ranges your lcmg 
remote kiln
battlefield 3 had terrible design making decisions that today look like a stone age coffin, and that's before the part where it didn't work for over a year on release
vague nexus
oh yeah, that
remote kiln
Skyrim ha(s) numerous bugs that make the game unplayable in certain sections
solar obsidian
skyrim on ps3 HAVE the played time performance degradation bug that would turn your save game unplayable after a good while
never fixed
vague nexus
"hey guys, i cracked EAC! I made an undetectable cheat that can't get you banned!"
"cool , what's it do? aimbot? esp?"
"makes text in main manu sharper!"
vague nexus
isn't it overriding some raster's dimensions
so like one well placed detour or even a memory substitution
remote kiln
no, to do that you need to inject into the pipeline before the game instantiates
vague nexus
well i actually have no clue what it is i'm only guessing
remote kiln
the hacks you're describing are in place memory changes
vague nexus
so i'd need to inject into dx instead of the game and possibly fuck up everything else that uses dx
vague nexus
when i saw you say "webhook" i was like "what, they're pulling these icons from a webserver?"
remote kiln
lol 3am autocorrect
vague nexus
or maybe they're already rasterised and packaged with the game
it would be as unreasonable as it can be
but it would mean you just have to swap them out
white ginkgo
i just uncovered my pc ventilation top hole it had a rag on it 
im like why my shit so hot
remote kiln
yes rasterised textures are not the source ones that are used by DICE
it would be impossible to do that
vague nexus
of course, but i thought the game keeps at least the vector source of the fonts
and not rasterized letter textures that get stitched
remote kiln
they do not, mostly cause it's expensive aswell
vague nexus
wouldn't vector be less expensive than raster images storage wise?
i mean depends on the amount of control points and what not
but i'd imagine a font would be easier to store as a vector, omitting the fact that it's a standard to store fonts this way
remote kiln
they're more expensive, it takes more memory to hold those source assets all the time, AOT means that you only need it on demand
vague nexus
so they render these texts once
what if they need for example a chat message
in the ingame chat
remote kiln
the chat box does use prerendered fonts, but that's because it's a tiny area of the game
mellow gull
Guys i bought the ultimate edition of 2042 a while ago but i still haven't received all of season 1 rewards they only gave me the angle skin from season 1
vague nexus
i'm not really sure how code compilation is related to textures
remote kiln
they only go up so much
remote kiln
i'm not really sure how code compilation is related to textures
it's all about swap
vague nexus
yeah i probably know what you're talking about
but i'll refer again to the fact of the current time
so
i think i'm dozing off now
it's unsual to be able to disagree with someone and still come out with a common mind
especially on the internet
remote kiln
Guys i bought the ultimate edition of 2042 a while ago but i still haven't recei...
you don't get all the rewards, only the ones you completed
ehh more common than you'd probably think
vague nexus
halfway through this conversation i was expecting on getting a slap on the face from the mods for arguing
remote kiln
there's language translation going on here too
mellow gull
you don't get all the rewards, only the ones you completed
Oh alright ty for resolving my question
remote kiln
np
mellow gull
Gn
vague nexus
yeah even though im typing english words probably have different meanings for you or terms or stuff
especially because this is all technical
idle lion
gotta love joining right at the end of the game
remote kiln
nah I get what you're trying to say so just blank out something if it's incorrect
idle lion
"hey guys, i cracked EAC! I made an undetectable cheat that can't get you banned...
lmao
i want that
clear moon
How do you type to the game chat on Xbox?
idle lion
also cracking eac isnt something that hard to do
vague nexus
yeah i felt like sometimes you wouldn't be able to get what i was trying to convey
vague nexus
also cracking eac isnt something that hard to do
no no the other part is worse
idle lion
which part
vague nexus
the part where you make the text sharper
remote kiln
How do you type to the game chat on Xbox?
is pc only
idle lion
the part where you make the text sharper
OH no whatever shall we do
the menu text is sharper
clear moon
Are you sure? I've been able to type on ps5@remote kiln
arctic grove
I’m actually really liking these new camera movements during certain movement
idle lion
we are all doomed
vague nexus
because you have to hijack a rasterizer, make sure it does its job under new params and then let go of it before anything else breaks
arctic grove
Seems to be a little delay for transition between walking to running and running to tac sprint
Which is also nice
vague nexus
and do all that with nothing but straight memory and assembly code
idle lion
because you have to hijack a rasterizer, make sure it does its job under new par...
oh i thought you were gonna say its bad for the game
vague nexus
dx is closed source too, right?
idle lion
dx is closed source too, right?
yeah unlike vulkan
arctic grove
New breakaway is ehhhhh for defenders. But maybe it’s just a bad team
remote kiln
Are you sure? I've been able to type on ps5<@162568099839606784>
actually nvm I was wrong, start - RTL and A is how you get to get to the chat box
vague nexus
yeah this is gonna be my new pet project
idle lion
New breakaway is ehhhhh for defenders. But maybe it’s just a bad team
its pretty op for defenders
clear moon
Ah ok thanks @remote kiln
remote kiln
Ah ok thanks <@162568099839606784>
np
idle lion
with cheats
sounds cool
vague nexus
in rust
idle lion
try not to get banboozled tho
vague nexus
for sharpening fonts?
i'm gonna hit up the guys who made the unofficial bf3 multiplayer thing
although
yeah
im gonna hit the mf bed first
goodnight to y'all
remote kiln
cya
wide shore
I don’t remember who recommended I use the SVK but bless your soul. That thing with the mid range thermal is just pure cheese
gilded wedge
What’s up guys I’m new here
azure basalt
i want to unlocked all the thermal scope, but im to busy abusing the m93 EMR to tier 1 it please don't fix it just yet :((
arctic grove
So glad they fixed the revive aim at sky bug
feral vortex
why is rebinding keys such a pain
remote kiln
cause the controls section was built with controller in mind for consoles
feral vortex
just doesnt register half my clicks half the time 😴
vocal zenith
lol remeber the china spy ballon, its actually was a spy ballon and better yet had explosives lol
gilded wedge
Nice
arctic grove
based and nukepilled
remote kiln
probably not the best idea to discuss that here with unconfirmed details
the balloon hasnt been recovered, it's simply a could be
vocal zenith
i mean china already responded lol
remote kiln
they said it was for civilian use, the US military or government haven't said anything about what it houses
because they don't know themselves until they get it
vocal zenith
they said it was for civilian use, the US military or government haven't said an...
if it was for civilian use then there are formal ways of getting permision to fly over us air space
remote kiln
it isn't US airspace
vocal zenith
you cant just enter another country's airspace without permission
remote kiln
anything above 45kft isn't part of a country's airspace
kindred flint
something something emp trial run 
arctic grove
doj confirms it was in US airspace
remote kiln
it was flying over US territory, it was not US airspace
vocal zenith
anything above 45kft isn't part of a country's airspace
even if it isnt u dont just enter another country like that
arctic grove
vocal zenith
also it was flying over senstive military instalation
arctic grove
feel free to read it
vocal zenith
also if the rumors if it containing explosives to prevent capture is true, what kind of BS civilan ballon needs explosives
arctic grove
??? the doj confirmed it?
remote kiln
they did not confirm it, there is specific wording for American airspace
vocal zenith
the US has final say in it regardless and they said its intruding on us airspace
remote kiln
they are talking about over its territory
remote kiln
radar signals detected it because it entered the geographical boundaries for airspace, that doesn't change that above 45k ft is not part of it
remember, there's 3 dimensions
arctic grove
6 miles is less than 45k
vocal zenith
even if it isnt in us airspace it still a huge red flag for the US goverment and really any goverment
remote kiln
it was 60k ft in the air
remote kiln
even if it isnt in us airspace it still a huge red flag for the US goverment and...
sure
vocal zenith
look
gilded wedge
I’m just upset we can’t talk about the Chinese in an American chat. They won already I guess.
vocal zenith
if china has a steath bomber that can fly at 50k feet do u think the us isnt gonna respond just because it isnt "technically" in their airspace
remote kiln
? I agreed with you
thick shadow
I’m just upset we can’t talk about the Chinese in an American chat. They won alr...
Watch me do the pyrocynical chinese meme and get kicked
remote kiln
I said sure because it's a valid point
vocal zenith
point is why did china even attempted this stupid thing, feels like their doing this just so they have a reason to retaliate
remote kiln
no idea, we're not the Chinese government, one thing it definitely isn't for is spying
white ginkgo
weve been trying to reach you
thick shadow
Zai xianggang
remote kiln
we've got no idea what it's for till it's recovered
idle lion
no idea, we're not the Chinese government, one thing it definitely isn't for is ...
they wouldntve reacted so badly to the US shooting it down if it wasnt for something else thats nefarious
vocal zenith
no idea, we're not the Chinese government, one thing it definitely isn't for is ...
i mean it could very well be but why lol, there are satellites in orbit that can do the same thing even better
white ginkgo
the mist is the zombie virus
remote kiln
yeah, precisely
white ginkgo
ikr
remote kiln
a balloon doesn't make sense
idle lion
i am so sick of people completely ignoring soflam darts when they play as an engineer
remote kiln
they wouldntve reacted so badly to the US shooting it down if it wasnt for somet...
they told them it was a bad thing, not exactly the biggest of reactions lol
kindred flint
meanwhile im over here wondering where all the vehicle spots are when playing engineer 
arctic grove
too many people running McKay
thick shadow
Idk about you guys but the balloon was obviously from a child that lost it, John cena told me
idle lion
they told them it was a bad thing, not exactly the biggest of reactions lol
they literally went full wolf warrior
kindred flint
yo someone say bing chilling? 
remote kiln
how
thick shadow
Bing chilling
vocal zenith
they told them it was a bad thing, not exactly the biggest of reactions lol
geopolitics is complicated even the most minor of things can escelate to serious matters
kindred flint
way gunna ruin it
thick shadow
Welcome way
remote kiln
which is why this entire thing has a 90% chance of being a nothing burger
next onyx
BING CHILLING
kindred flint
nvm way is cool
remote kiln
even US analysts who looked at the balloon before it was shot down said it was probably for civilian beaming
thick shadow
Loves bing chilling *
kindred flint
whats with the targeting on the javelin being so fucking dog shit when another vehicle is within your box?
next onyx
If I were china id advise the u.s on what is happening.
A balloon is headed your direction yadda yadda.
thick shadow
Anything can be resolved with bing chilling
remote kiln
these types of things are more common than people realise, jumping immediately to they're spying doesn't solve anything
kindred flint
like im following an enemy vehicle with my crosshair...actually in the center of my targeting box, and the game is like "DID YOU MEAN TO TARGET THIS EMPTY TRANSPORT TRUCK??" and resets the fucking lock 
vocal zenith
look if it is truly for civilian use, just ask for permision lol, like every other person do
remote kiln
not that type of civilian use
next onyx
It does look bad when you don't say anything.
kindred flint
(spoiler, its not)
remote kiln
civilian use as in, civil purposes
thick shadow
Is the javelin only in portal or?
next onyx
No.
kindred flint
it was just added to AOW with 3.2
i saw a tank or two get soflamed by my teammates during a renewal match
willow sky
having an engineer + recon is the best
thick shadow
Dawg how do I obtain that metal pipe with heat seeking dynamite
kindred flint
dont think i saw a single fucking heli the entire game get painted.... you gotta love it
solar obsidian
3 lis and a medic
vocal zenith
not sure if this is confirmed but i heard china said it was a "civilian airship" whatever that means
wtf is a civilian airship
willow sky
3 lis and a medic
thats so unbalanced 😔
vocal zenith
like are there ppl in the baloon
vocal zenith
ah
remote kiln
weather forecasting/internet etc
solar obsidian
thats so unbalanced 😔
its actually funny how bonkers broken lis rocket launcher is when using it as a squad of them
gilded wedge
So is this where we get on to get a squad together?
solar obsidian
they regen ammo
vocal zenith
because aparently the chinese ballon was over 200ft tall which is fkn huge
solar obsidian
you dont need support
thick shadow
Why would a civilian airship from China be flying above US territory??
remote kiln
it's 60k ft high, it has to be long to sustain that height
solar obsidian
Why would a civilian airship from China be flying above US territory??
kirov reporting
willow sky
its actually funny how bonkers broken lis rocket launcher is when using it as a ...
ive seen videos of people doing lis squads and having like one medic for revs
thick shadow
Wat dat yo
willow sky
its insanely funny
remote kiln
pressure increases the higher altitude you are in the air
vocal zenith
its the size of a jetliner lol
solar obsidian
ive seen videos of people doing lis squads and having like one medic for revs
yep, even two lis are enough to cancel any tank in progressing forward
vocal zenith
the actual survelance stuff not the ballon
remote kiln
its the size of a jetliner lol
seem familiar?
they are all massive when you are that high in the stratosphere
it's not some small balloon
vocal zenith
yea that makes it more sus lol
remote kiln
how?
thick shadow
Why does it look like a stretched out bao bun
vocal zenith
it has that much solar panels and for what if not being used for something like survelance
if they legit think spy balloons is the way of the future for spying on ur neigbors i just cant lol
vocal zenith
dude, that's a NASA satellite
nasa uses these kinds of ballons for gathering data
remote kiln
yeah
vocal zenith
its not much of a strech to slap a huge ass camera and live feed it for intel gathering
remote kiln
yes it is?
remote kiln
because what substantiate evidence exists? the fact it's Chinese?
vocal zenith
im looking at the center and i see a huge ass camera
remote kiln
thats a satellite..
vocal zenith
thats a satellite..
bruh
thats literally the satelite that was shot down
if you dont belive me look at the live video it looks exactly the same
vocal zenith
also thats not the moon
rocky bear
Did lmg recoil get raised?
remote kiln
do you know how big a lense has to be to record from that height?
vocal zenith
do you know how big a lense has to be to record from that height?
remeber this ballon is the size of a jetliner
the balloon is 200 ft in diameter
remote kiln
.. the balloon.. is not the same as that..
vocal zenith
you can clearly see from this image that the non ballon part of this spy ballon is nearly as long as the diameter of the balloon
its frkn massive
some satalites we put on orbit isnt even this big because u know it needs to fit in a rocket
remote kiln
here's an idea my guy, don't make some wild claim because it's chinese
vocal zenith
here's an idea my guy, don't make some wild claim because it's chinese
im not
here is the reddit where i got this picture
remote kiln
idk about that lol you had the audacity to claim that NASA use it for data collection, and this one is apparently different because.. something something
there's no coherent reasoning here, you have no idea just like anyone else
rocky bear
Isn't spying just data collection on somebody else though
vocal zenith
idk about that lol you had the audacity to claim that NASA use it for data colle...
NASA uses it for collection, and im crazy for thinking the chinese one is also use it for data collection? wow
its almost like both of them does the same thing
remote kiln
yeah you are, because you have no idea
arctic grove
vocal zenith
u agree that nasa uses balloons with hardware on them to collect data? why is it so hard for u to think the chinese one isnt doing the same thing
remote kiln
what do NASA use that data for?
arctic grove
Talks about the spy balloon in a 2042 channel, seems legit
vocal zenith
what do NASA use that data for?
data is data, u can use it for scientific purposes or military it depends on how u use it
vocal zenith
a guy taking picture of a russion convoy is just a picture to a civilian but to the military , if that picture has a geo tag on it then they can literaly call in a strike
remote kiln
what?
arctic grove
Yawn
vocal zenith
my point is data is just data, it depends on how u use it
remote kiln
no your point is you're not going to answer because "how you use it" depends on the country
arctic grove
a guy taking picture of a russion convoy is just a picture to a civilian but to ...
I think that would be OSINT
vocal zenith
I think that would be OSINT
yea open source inteligence
arctic grove
Some dudes are crazy, fucking find the exact street a random meme video was filmed on
remote kiln
you're insane for making such wild claims
arctic grove
Cool stuff tbh
vocal zenith
its literaly happening rn lol
arctic grove
Did lmg recoil get changed yet
?
rocky bear
No?
arctic grove
It will be in the ‘near future’
vocal zenith
you're insane for making such wild claims
look if nasa sends their ballons over shaghai u think it isnt sus for the chinese goverment?
even if nasa claims its for atmospheric data
it doesnt matter
remote kiln
how would I be able to answer that?
what NASA use data for is public information dude
going into the land of conspiracy theories isn't helping anything
vocal zenith
what NASA use data for is public information dude
information is information why do u think google maps blurs military bases, because it can be used againts them
fresh grail
So I've come to realize the M305A23 whatever default AR is the best
remote kiln
no.. because the department of defense forces Google too
fresh grail
Portal guns suck
vocal zenith
no.. because the department of defense forces Google too
why? tho because its a security risk its literaly in their name the DOD department of defence they are responsible for US security
remote kiln
yes?
arctic grove
information is information why do u think google maps blurs military bases, beca...
Strangely Okinawa AFB just casually shows a bunch of F35s lol
vocal zenith
giving so easy access to clear hd images of military bases is dumb for security
remote kiln
uh huh?
rocky bear
you good bud?
plain needle
Bitches act like they’re gods gift but all they do is fucking lie
arctic grove
Oh no
plain needle
It’s so funny, that’s all
vocal zenith
some one is having a bad day lol
plain needle
Nah nah I’m not having a bad day, just done with the bullshit
Prolly gonna go drink myself to sleep or something
vocal zenith
well GL with that
plain needle
I will, I actually just picked up a bottle of whipped cream vodka
Actually fuck that I’m getting hammered and playing 2042
arctic grove
Yes
Update has presented some weird issues with input and choppy animations on ps5
Either that or servers are a tiny bit wonky
plain needle
Update presents all sorts of issues like all the time ever
arctic grove
True
plain needle
Fucking interns
arctic grove
I hate the new fall damage changes
I've died so many times cuz of bs fall damage
Like grappling onto the renewal wall and dying after hitting the roof
thick shadow
Not as bad when you shoot an enemy while ads on exposure and suddenly fall off a cliff
arctic grove
Or jumping out the condor, opening the parachute, cutting it 2m away from the ground and dying immediately
arctic grove
Not as bad when you shoot an enemy while ads on exposure and suddenly fall off a...
Exposure cliff on its way to be 90% fake
thick shadow
Exposure cliff on its way to be 90% fake
What do you mean
arctic grove
Like
There's so many places where you can clearly stand without falling
But you actually can't
thick shadow
Jumping off the cliffs on exposure is fun
acoustic seal
dying to the stumble animation is cool and fun and engaging gameplay
thick shadow
Ragdolls have me dead in battlefield
arctic grove
I'm getting stumble animations when walking over ice rocks on breakaway