battlefield-2042

[hasty walrus]

And what do u know

It's available on EA play

🫡

[quaint vector]

HC with limits is fun.

But i will stick to my Breakthrough main..

[royal swan]

Oh god the railgun in hardcore is going to be busted lmao, a hit scan weapon with different fire modes that eats vehicles

Yikes

[wise zodiac]

I disagree.

I feel hardcore is MUCH more unforgiving, so you have to play WAY more tactical. You have to plan your movements, you can't just run out.

[royal swan]

Put it simply, camping

[spiral folio]

Well its only more forgiving cause you play like it matters to be shot

[wise zodiac]

No, not at all.

[royal swan]

Way more tactical, can't just run out, plan your movements, that just camping

[spiral folio]

Play world of tanks if you hate camping. Youll foam at the mouth with impatience

[wise zodiac]

More unforgiving, and yes, it does matter on hardcore. It's the difference between winning or losing.

[spiral folio]

WoT is 15 min battles 1 life

[hexed mango]

https://media.contentapi.ea.com/content/dam/battlefield/battlefield-2042/common/season-03/s3-page/videos/bf-2042-inline-video-s3-esc-tank.mp4

fun to watch

[wise zodiac]

And you should play that game slow and methodically. Angles, ammunition type, tank armor, etc all also matter.

[granite island]

I like the background noises in spearhead

[quaint vector]

Lowrider Tank..

[spiral folio]

I played a custom mode on an old game with 1 life per player. You do things differently when it matters to get hit

[wise zodiac]

For sure.

[royal swan]

I never said I hate camping, I just say that camping is common in hardcore

[sturdy patio]

I bet that building there won't even be destructable

[wise zodiac]

Camping is always common place - I find more campers in core than hardcore.

[spiral folio]

Most modern shooters its "ah died... " -hold down spawn button-

[wise zodiac]

But, everyone complains that camping isn't a legit strategy.

[lean bridge]

Hello

[royal swan]

Nah, then core would be more boring

[torpid wadi]

Howdy

[hexed mango]

we will see ¯_(ツ)_/¯

im inclined to agree with you but i hope the opposite

[wise zodiac]

I can't tell you how many campers I find sitting in corners or in buildings.

Do you think snipers are campers?

[sturdy patio]

Same

[hexed mango]

light work

[torpid wadi]

I would be highly surprised if you could severely damage the main cube buildings

[wise zodiac]

What about LMG/MMG users who have to go prone to have less recoil?

[royal swan]

What game mode do you even play

[lean bridge]

Check my dms

[sturdy patio]

Hopefully DICE is also planning on optimizing the game a little bit

[wise zodiac]

I play Breakthrough & Conquest. I prefer Breakthrough though.

[lean bridge]

I already have it ea pro in rights

[quaint vector]

Optimalization is still on the list for every Update

[lean bridge]

I buying with my own monney in right I don't have it monney

[sturdy patio]

Good to know because my GTX 1650 is crying right now

[wise zodiac]

GeT a BeTtEr GpU/CpU

That's what people will tell you. Lol

[royal swan]

Breakthrough is harder to explain because camping helps, but even that mode has as many lone wolfers as campers

[sturdy patio]

prices are 4 times more in my country

I wish

though

[wise zodiac]

Yeah its ridiculous. I got a 3070Ti for 600.

[sturdy patio]

bro

bro

bro

sharing is caring mate

[royal swan]

How many lone wolfs do you see in hardcore, I barely see any in hardcore

[wise zodiac]

Here's the thing though; camping is a legitimate strategy.

If I know that this hallway is contested, you bet I'm gonna prop up with an LMG/MMG and hold that hallway.

[wise zodiac]

I used to play 4, religiously, on hardcore. I would find SO MANY LONE WOLVES and it would cause me to lose the game because my team couldn't coordinate.

[lilac dust]

MP9 feels goooooood

[royal swan]

I don't believe you

All of my hardcore games are the most boring bland matches I ever seen

[wise zodiac]

I play BFV more so now, with some BF2042 sprinkled in.

[topaz field]

Now that i think about Zain...he def has some sort of cyber implant in his body.....

no way he's 100% flesh and bones

[royal swan]

You can't flank, lone wolf, or push in front because there is always campers on the other side

[topaz field]

maybe he has a mechnical heart?

[royal swan]

Vehicles don't work as they are a marker of death

[wise zodiac]

I disagree. I had a massive flank the other night on BFV because the other team was focusing on where my team was coming from, and not their rear.

[royal swan]

Isn't bfv maps small

I'm still talking about 2042

Maybe I should clarify that hardcore in 2042 is bland and boring

[radiant prism]

Depends on the map, some maps are tiny but others are huge

Also hardcore in general sucks

[wise zodiac]

Depends on the map.

[radiant prism]

BFV hardcore was a snoozefest, I’ve never been so bored hitting 100 kills in my life

[wise zodiac]

I haven't really messed with 2042's hardcore; haven't had the time or inclination to try it as I don't have a really good team presence.

[radiant prism]

People say it takes more skill…it just doesn’t.

[royal swan]

Ok 2042 hardcore sucks and other games with hardcore don't suck

[wise zodiac]

After having a solid group of people to play with, I won't go back to playing solo ever again lol

[royal swan]

The maps are just too big to make it fun

To flat

To open

[radiant prism]

Doesn’t matter about the map size, hardcore even in CQC it sucks

[royal swan]

Hardcore in rush is revolting

[radiant prism]

I distinctly remember in BFV on Solomon Islands just destroying the enemy team without so much as breaking as sweat

[final trail]

stuck on waiting for players

[wise zodiac]

But you're also a freakin beast on BFV, soooooo

[quiet shell]

Why did DICE get rid of 128 player breakthrough but then kept the 128 breakthrough layout for manifest

[quaint vector]

Turn CrossPlay On.. Or try to leave and join another match

[final trail]

i have it on lol

[radiant prism]

Yes, but hardcore was a whole new level of stupid

[quaint vector]

Or even try to restart the game

[hexed mango]

[final trail]

doing dis since 7am

[wise zodiac]

I love hardcore if I'm playing it tactically.

[quiet shell]

Breakthrough lost a lot of its specialness when they axed 128 player

[wise zodiac]

But if I don't have a solid team, I don't bother lol

[quaint vector]

Ouch... What's your region.?

[pine roost]

No tracking aim just dull to me

[final trail]

oce

[wise zodiac]

That's your problem

[quaint vector]

Maybe that's why

[wise zodiac]

OCE has nobody playing because it's OCE lol

[radiant prism]

Its also stupid early in the morning there isn’t it?

[final trail]

9am

[wise zodiac]

On a Saturday too

[final trail]

ye

[wise zodiac]

All the kiddos are asleep still lol

[radiant prism]

Hm

[quaint vector]

Welp, Wait a little longer...

[radiant prism]

And also make sure crossplay is turned on

[final trail]

will changing my console reigon work

[radiant prism]

No one turns off crossplay, even back at launch

[final trail]

will changing my xbox reigon work

[quaint vector]

If its Xbox, maybe... But i don't really know about this stuff

[radiant prism]

I’d imagine it would yeah

Just be prepared for high ping

[cloud kestrel]

Perhaps. I know console region affects stores in most games, like Belgian console regions not being able to buy lootboxes and such

However I doubt it works like a VPN, changing who/where you connect to

[wise zodiac]

A VPN makes a difference, if you have one.

If not, well...

[final trail]

na on xbox vpns no work

[wise zodiac]

Oh; he's on console?

Yeah, good luck lol

[cloud kestrel]

☝️

[arctic grove]

bewm bewm

[arctic grove]

Day 929392958389193 of asking for 128BT back

It keeps appearing on those friggin surveys too

[quiet shell]

I WISH I WOULD GET ONE OF THOSE SURVEYS BUT THEN NEVER SEND ME ONE

[arctic grove]

I got lucky on the most recent one myself

[lean bridge]

Anyone did you're play battlefield 2042

[arctic grove]

Yes

[cloud kestrel]

This is the benefit to nolifing bf games; they send you surveys and cool "friend of dice" cosmetics

[final trail]

we need a reigon switch

[arctic grove]

If I befriend dice will they send me a PC with the best stuff in it to no life their games? /j

[wise zodiac]

No

[arctic grove]

[wise zodiac]

I need to get me a bunch of shit to finish my PC build

[quaint vector]

** Time to delete my bio **

[wise zodiac]

Cpu, cooler, psu, ram...

[arctic grove]

[cloud kestrel]

If you make generic update videos and "old battlefield game is still healthy" every week then they will 😉

[arctic grove]

I know what I’m gonna do today

[wise zodiac]

Oh so I should stream my bfv games then? It's outdated though

[granite island]

Stream 2042

24/7

[wise zodiac]

When do I eat?

[granite island]

When the match ends

And before match atarts

[wise zodiac]

I dont care about sleep

[cloud kestrel]

P sure BFV is neck and neck with 2042 in players

[wise zodiac]

I should probably start streaming my BFV matches again though

[granite island]

Hit crazy clips

[cloud kestrel]

Thog dont caare what game u stream as long as you're entertaining

[granite island]

Ride a enemy condor and snipe a enemy heli while doing it

[kindred flint]

even 3D spotting is making a return as well! Yep, you read that right! Battlefield 2042 3D spotting will be a thing very soon. -insert Michael scott NOOOO gif-

[cloud kestrel]

BFV creator market is immensely dry so breaking in shouldn't be hard. There like 4 tubers and matimio is the only good streamer of them

[calm bison]

Wait what

[kindred flint]

https://mp1st.com/news/battlefield-2042-3d-spotting-is-being-added-back-significant-rework-of-ping-system-planned-by-dice

[granite island]

What's 3d spotting

[arctic grove]

One step closer to a more classic experience?

[kindred flint]

uhh shoot the red triangle over the enemy?

[granite island]

Oh that's nice

My teammates are apparently blind so they need that

[wise zodiac]

No idea who any of them are; so #winning, I think.

[radiant prism]

Oh fuck no

Ping system is so much fucking better

Please no more 3D spotting

[kindred flint]

bf4 gameplay consisted of not looking for enemies, and just spamming Q (spot) to get a 3d red triangle above their head and you shoot at that, through bushes etc

[strange crag]

There’s like 50 million ways to spot in 2042 already

[arctic grove]

Hmmm good dissenting arguments

[granite island]

Be rao player

Be meat shield

[cloud kestrel]

The kid named finger is right

[radiant prism]

Same goes for BF1

[oak fable]

It only took a year but I'm finally excited to play bf2042

[cloud kestrel]

Bf needs to go f2p already

[arctic grove]

no

[cloud kestrel]

Series has been struggling hard for the last decade

[mental delta]

I hate ping system

[arctic grove]

N O H

[wise zodiac]

Yeah, gross. 3d spotting was garbage.

[mental delta]

I've just said it I feel better now

[arctic grove]

The last decade has brought its best titles though

[kindred flint]

im literally not surprised by this tbh

[radiant prism]

If people don’t want more micro transactions and cosmetics, going F2P is not going to get that

[fierce gull]

my battlefield keeps crashing

[cloud kestrel]

Yeah 2 years after they launch! Name 1 good bf launch since 2011

[kindred flint]

it perfectly tracks with dices track record of going in the right direction and then doing something absolutely fucking stupid

[strange crag]

BFV did spotting relatively fine. Definitely better than 2042

[arctic grove]

Are we talking about good games or good launches?

[cloud kestrel]

Yeah but free battlefield game funded by dudes who waste their money on skins nobody cares about

[radiant prism]

[kindred flint]

see ttk reverting back to the horrible system after they said "we wont do something dumb like that again!"

[arctic grove]

Isn’t it literally almost the same?

[radiant prism]

Oh, you sweet summer child…

[spare quest]

[lean bridge]

I have battlefield 2042 ultimate edition

Is fun

[arctic grove]

I haven’t played much BFV so genuine question, but don’t they both use the ping system?

[radiant prism]

BFV was pretty bad, i think even worse than 2042

[radiant prism]

Correct

[strange crag]

I thought it was better at least. Don’t burn me pls

[mental delta]

[radiant prism]

BFV had a pretty rough launch in terms of stability

Also content

Which people conveniently forget

[arctic grove]

How was it before Pacific?

[spare quest]

bfv is better than 2042, just compare the active player count

[arctic grove]

Honestly it’s PR was bad so I skipped out on it

[radiant prism]

I mean it was fun

But it was pretty unstable

[arctic grove]

Ah, I did notice how a lot of the menu elements were blue then turned yellow with pacific after watching old videos. It was like a facelift for it in most aspects apparently

[radiant prism]

It’d gotten a decent amount of content before pacific, but the first 6 months or so was pretty slow

[arctic grove]

I’m a bit sad the Soviets didn’t make the cut to it ya know?

[radiant prism]

Yeah, but it was time for BFV to go

[arctic grove]

I mean, not like I personally agree with their actions. It was just an opportunity for more content was all

[strange crag]

Man i defended BFV for months until it’s poor state caught up to me and i turned bitter

[radiant prism]

I played BFV from the day it launched to the day 2042 did

[mental delta]

BFV poor launch was especially due to the horrible trailer that disencouraged people to play it, then poor Dice communication came in and it was the beginning of the fall

[strange crag]

I definitely played BFV the first few months more than i did 2042’s anyway

[radiant prism]

Thing is, BFV’s reveal was a black sheep. Every other trailer was fucking banger

Especially the launch trailer

I’ve talked about this before

[arctic grove]

Did it really upset people that much that there was a gas mask in the game from the 60s? And the prosthetic? These probably seem like really iconic cliche talking points, it’s all I really remember from it

[mental delta]

I bought it one or two months after its release and loved it, was fun, had pretty good content, and somehow felt a way more immersive than in the trailer

[radiant prism]

A bit. Thing is the prosthetic arm never made it past the reveal trailer

[arctic grove]

Hmm interesting

[strange crag]

See i wasn’t even hating on the reveal trailer. I was just disappointed it was yet another WW game. I mean in 2016 we had BF1, in 2017 there was COD WWII, and then 2018 BFV was WW2 i was sick of that era by then

[arctic grove]

2042 honestly is the first BF I’ve been present for since launch

[granite island]

I thought the bf5 trailer was cool

[kindred flint]

cod ww2 was trash though

[granite island]

Take that back

[mental delta]

I was also disappointed when I saw it was another WW cause I wanted a modern BF game after BF1 but what pissed me off was the trailer ngl, it was like they really didn't want people to buy their game

[kindred flint]

we talking about vanguard?

[granite island]

Oh ok

[kindred flint]

(wait there was another trash one too?)

was that the one with furry cosmetics n other shit like that?

[granite island]

I don't think cod WW2 had anything

It just had weapon paint skins

And emotes

[strange crag]

Yeah I genuinely had fun playing when I wasn’t getting Hamada and Narvick in the rotation

[arctic grove]

I was never the biggest fan of WW shooters personally

[spare quest]

And terrible gun sounds

[kindred flint]

dude hamada was a fucking master class of shit map design

SO MUCH WASTED DEAD SPACE

[arctic grove]

But what I like about 1 was how much they covered the theme, so it made me genuinely interested in WW1

[spare quest]

why are you talking about dead space thats a different game

[strange crag]

[kindred flint]

if you controlled the back 3 objectives youd totally annihilate the german team

[mental delta]

I loved Narvik a lot but Hamada truly felt to large

[spare quest]

remember when the german bomber had 32 bombs

[kindred flint]

narvik was pretty fun in the city area to train tracks section

[granite island]

Now the background for spearhead is amazing

With the missiles firing

[strange crag]

That and i really hated the haze effect that covered hamada. I had to be squinting to see shit

[granite island]

And sometimes shaking the screen

[strange crag]

Agree

[arctic grove]

Weren’t the BFV maps based all on real locations?

[granite island]

Yeah

[spare quest]

based

[kindred flint]

other way around

[granite island]

And the 2042 maps are also real locations

[mental delta]

Ha yes lmao it was so fucking disturbing, they should have got us a sand storm isntead ngl

[granite island]

But different

[kindred flint]

dice are time travelers

[granite island]

I don't think spearhead is based around anything tho

[royal swan]

Seems like we get 14 weeks instead of 12

For this season

[strange crag]

Sand storm? Wym clearly we needed 2 tornadoes

[lilac dust]

So spearhead's map layout on the menu is more zoomed out I'm guessing than stranded which is why it looks smaller but is actually bigger?

[granite island]

2 tornadoes

Nah

We need a snow tornado

[kindred flint]

this is the beginning of the end bois...game going into maintenance mode

[spare quest]

[frail hill]

So who is waiting for Aimbots and Wall Hacks in Season 3 I mean that is essentially what the Railgun and Grenade Launcher are

[kindred flint]

i saw comments talking about the gameplay of the railgun...havent watched the video though, is it just absolutely broken af?

[royal swan]

You mean bitch and complain, you got it

[granite island]

Air burst is basically if you're not going to peak I'm going to kill you anyway gun

[strange crag]

Paik exists already

[kindred flint]

or just mostly broken

[spare quest]

typhoon or a blizzard weather effect would be nice

[royal swan]

Yep lol

Hit scan

[frail hill]

have you seen the new grenade launcher

[royal swan]

And can kill vehicles

[kindred flint]

damages vehicles?

[royal swan]

Oh yah

Very

[kindred flint]

like...AP round damage?

or more

[royal swan]

Nooo

[strange crag]

The airburst? Yeah

[royal swan]

More

[granite island]

Oh what the

[royal swan]

Way more

[hexed mango]

xm3

[kindred flint]

how does this pass testing?

beyond the usual BP=op shit so people grind for it/spend money

[hexed mango]

yeah its op

[granite island]

You have to charge to shoot for all modes for the railgun

[spare quest]

they don't do any testing

[granite island]

That sucks

[spare quest]

[strange crag]

You think they test?

[arctic grove]

It damages WHAT?

[granite island]

I thought one was charge

[hexed mango]

zain gonna be a pain, as i said

[kindred flint]

like i thought the bsv m was broken af

[granite island]

and one was constant shooting

[royal swan]

Vehicles

[spare quest]

the new weapons are gonna be op as fuck in the first weeks

[arctic grove]

[spare quest]

then they get nerfed

[hexed mango]

isnt that how the old xm3 was back when

[kindred flint]

avancys was like...ok fast rof weapon its going to kill fast, but the recoil was so minimal

[royal swan]

Oh it can kill tanks

Tanks, helis, jets

[kindred flint]

but now this railgun can hitscan and fuck up vehicles

[arctic grove]

Bruh

[royal swan]

At least we can kill stealth helis

[kindred flint]

although this does make me happy....if vehicle sweats cry about it

[royal swan]

FUCK YOU SKY BOX STEALTH HELI

EAT SHIT

[hexed mango]

https://youtu.be/M2pdBs2MZto
watch this shit

[strange crag]

“But guys its set in the future of course things will be overpowered by then “

[kindred flint]

reminds me of the good times of launch days fliegerfaust

[royal swan]

The shotgun is the most balanced primary

From the seasons

[slate meadow]

cant believe they still havent fixed this shit

[strange crag]

Oh man I remember

[spare quest]

oh boy those times were great, and to this day some pilot mains are still crying about it being too op

[kindred flint]

shotgun suffers from long reloads

[granite island]

Ntw and sniper homies rise

[slate meadow]

they need to stop the stealth choppers being in stealth and being able to drop bombs its a joke

[granite island]

We shall shoot down the skybox helis

[hexed mango]

https://youtu.be/3zojnGyZ-L0

[spare quest]

the panzerfaust can 1hit planes, even better than fliegerfaust

[silk surge]

Judging from Jackfrags video on S3... There's so many new actual hitscan weapons that I'm worried that it will completely fuck the meta. Why use anything else when there's a sniper that can 3 shot hitscan helis out of the sky and is also able to full-auto?

[royal swan]

And fall, bow down to the utility rail gun

Utilities will rule

[kindred flint]

gotta love the pilots that thought they werent just blatantly op on maps like fjell...where you only had static AA to deal with them

[spare quest]

jackfrags

[kindred flint]

you couldnt even kill them while they 1 pass bombed you

[strange crag]

Jackmeofffrags

[hexed mango]

railgun has burst and full auto

[keen arrow]

Well, how's it going 2042?

[royal swan]

That still damages vehicles

But I would use the single shot one

[hexed mango]

yeah damn the hitscan fuck

shit gonna be op

[strange crag]

F-f-f-f what now

[hexed mango]

you heard me waltuh

[royal swan]

Oh yeah, it auto fires

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bWGrh.gif

[royal swan]

Less damage but

[hexed mango]

also the map looks so good

[royal swan]

Still hurts vehicles

[strange crag]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-walter-heisenberg-crawl-space-gif-19584363

[granite island]

By watching levelcapgaming video of season 3

[royal swan]

Stealth helis are going to be more easier to kill

Going to be so happy

[kindred flint]

IT HAS 132 AMMO AND THAT DAMAGE MODEL?

[granite island]

It actually seems hard to get a kill with the railgun sniper mode

[kindred flint]

lmao...what the fuck

[last sable]

How am I just getting 90 fps with graphic setting all the way low? I got 2070s tf

[spare quest]

I don't think there's any good battlefield youtuber left

[hexed mango]

the cube panels are destructive

[royal swan]

No bullet drop lmao

[slate meadow]

cpu dependant

[hexed mango]

cause the game is CPU intensive, not gpu

[last sable]

I7 9700f??

[strange crag]

They answered our prayers, but at what cost

[royal swan]

The railgun has almost no bullet drop

[last sable]

come on man I get over 144 fps on Warzone 2

[hexed mango]

yeah welcome to my world, i have a i7 10th and i get mid fps

[royal swan]

And jets get their own category

[kindred flint]

im impressed again tbh...they exceeded my expectations for how fucking dumb this weapon is

[hexed mango]

xm3 gets 10 shots before needing to refresh

[royal swan]

So if it isn't the railgun doing damage it's the jets that would take it's place

[kindred flint]

that 6x scope, or is it more? and you dont have to compensate for drop

[spare quest]

they need to buff jets

[strange crag]

Balanced

[spare quest]

ramming into helicopters with jets should destroy them

[hexed mango]

you can also mark distance and the projectile will explode at that range

[royal swan]

It really makes the shotgun look balanced

[spare quest]

go full japanese mode

[kindred flint]

and it can tap that nightbird out of the sky lmao

remind me again why anyone would use the fucking nwt now?

[royal swan]

A few taps but yeah

It's two shot to the body and one for the head for the railgun

[strange crag]

Just minding your own business in a heli and you get shot down by a Godzilla beam

[hexed mango]

yeah full auto on the railgun seems really busted

[spare quest]

Idk if it's true or not but someone told me that hitting a stealth heli with the nwt will disable the stealth mode

[kindred flint]

the tank just got shit on by a couple energy guns

[spare quest]

is that even true

[kindred flint]

(apparently any damage does that?)

[spare quest]

idk

[kindred flint]

but who cares when the thing just fucks off anyways

[hexed mango]

fr fr

[spare quest]

I usually hunt them with the TOW which always kills them in 1hit

[hexed mango]

throwing knife animation is

[kindred flint]

unless i had AP rounds on my gun ready to go then knocking it out of stealth as a ground player is a bit harder than as a wildcat

[granite island]

Oh there's actually 3 cubes

It just 1 is far in the background

[hexed mango]

yeah but isnt out outside

yea

[strange crag]

I better see you hit a nasty trickshot

[hexed mango]

shotgun looks ok

[spare quest]

ravic is gonna love the throwing knifes

[hexed mango]

you bet your sweet jippy i will

[granite island]

Would be cool if the missiles from the background had a chance to hit the battlefield

[royal swan]

Oh yeah the wildcat is now in a different category along with the RAM

[slate meadow]

bruh the assassination's in this game are so weird a guy is prone and you stand the person up instead of just stabbing them right through their cranium

[spare quest]

you have brutal expectations

[granite island]

Not a expectation

[slate meadow]

these expecations are brutal

[royal swan]

And the bolte is in a land transport category along with the MAV

[kindred flint]

oh what the fuck is this bullshit now...the airburst gets 10 rounds (5+5) but will replenish your ammo even if you didnt fire all 5 shots of your first mag???

[royal swan]

The air transport has it's individual category

[near quiver]

I'm getting a comm error starting the game, anyone else?

[strange crag]

What? You don’t help the enemy up before jamming a screwdriver in their ear canal?

[kindred flint]

flacks heal pistol better get this same system

[hexed mango]

jackfrags just fucking took on an entire hind with the railgun and won

[royal swan]

Wildcats, jets, railgun, the helis have zero chance

[slate meadow]

no its very rare that its the ear canal im entering if the enemy is laying down its normally another orifice

[royal swan]

All this shit talking but I haven't seen the opinion of a heli main

[spare quest]

this is something a heli main would say

[hexed mango]

railgun also has very high bullet velo

[strange crag]

[granite island]

Being a heli main is hell

[lean bridge]

I have subscription ea play pro

[granite island]

Missile dodge simulator

[spare quest]

what about those cowards who are flying as high as possible while dropping bombs on objectives

[royal swan]

Nah, I hate helis main, they can suck ass, and now they can with my railgun

[strange crag]

Don’t forget that one condor that targets you for simply existing

[granite island]

Can't even go near the walls of a objective unless I want 6 lock ons

[royal swan]

Lmao, they have a lot of health, it's the jets that are going to fuck em up

[granite island]

I'm a actual useful heli player

[hexed mango]

who

[royal swan]

Please explain, if you use stealth or nightbird, then you are a lying shit

[kindred flint]

oh you only single reload 1 the shotgun

[granite island]

What's wrong with nightbird

And I use the slow heli

[royal swan]

It ain't helpful

[kindred flint]

it flies? thus its a bastard

[royal swan]

Does it kill tanks, as fast as anything else

Does it transport people

[spare quest]

it's kinda sad to see that nobody is using jets in 2042

they just weak af

[near quiver]

Vehicles in general needs to be nerfed.

[royal swan]

Well they should be around with their own category

[hexed mango]

@lean bridge why

[kindred flint]

alright where is alex

he has a lot of explaining to do

[hexed mango]

alex is daddy

[lean bridge]

I'm am sorry

[hexed mango]

@ripe hedge <3

[spare quest]

The thing i miss the most is the old c5 kamikaze drones

[hexed mango]

[royal swan]

Bro just @ alex

[hexed mango]

he loves me

[spare quest]

who is alex

[hexed mango]

game designer

[lean bridge]

I'm am sorry for inconvenience

[hexed mango]

works on weapons

[royal swan]

Weapons designer

[low timber]

Bullpup lover

[royal swan]

Railgun maker

[hexed mango]

i would make the questions about railgun to him, he might know more than most

[kindred flint]

can he supply the rest of chat with what ever drugs he was on designing that railgun?

[spare quest]

@ripe hedge

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/bz72N.gif

[hexed mango]

ok dont do it twice in a row, but yes

[spare quest]

i only did it once

[hexed mango]

yes but i just did it as well

just being safe

[low timber]

Is Sam still on Vacation?

[hexed mango]

no

[royal swan]

A third time a magical individual will come and remove you from society

[hexed mango]

he got a promotion, of sorts

[low timber]

Oh, good for him

[hexed mango]

ong

[arctic grove]

[low timber]

Btw, I got the M44 to T1 a few hours ago

[hexed mango]

epic poggers

[granite island]

Wait how many tanks can you use on spearhead

[low timber]

The sidearm I though I’d never use was the first sidearm I T1’d

[hexed mango]

probably same as other similarly sized maps

[granite island]

Oh

I wanted 3 tanks

[kindred flint]

more targets to fuck with a railgun?

[hexed mango]

in jack's video i think i saw 2 per team, might be mistaken but yeah

[granite island]

More for my c5 t1

[hexed mango]

[granite island]

For some reason my c5 vehicle kills aren't counting

[low timber]

I wonder what’s the railguns (tank and rifle) damage outputs on other vehicles

[spare quest]

I wish there was a mastery for the rao drone

[royal swan]

I just realized, the railgun is just a reskin of the tf2 default sniper

[low timber]

Rao drone?

[hexed mango]

rao what

[spare quest]

his drone + c5

recon drone kills

[hexed mango]

uh

he doesnt have a drone

youre thinking of casper

[low timber]

Rao is the hacker

[spare quest]

oh wait it was casper lmao

[hexed mango]

and no, casper is just spots iirc

[low timber]

What’s my password?

[royal swan]

It hit scans, it charges up for more damage, and one shot to the head

[hexed mango]

password, obviously

[granite island]

I wish Casper had EMP on drone

[royal swan]

It's the tf2 sniper rifle from team fortress 2

[low timber]

He has

[spare quest]

he does

[granite island]

Well then make the range for EMP longer

[hexed mango]

its a lockon

[spare quest]

[hexed mango]

not a grenade like the stealth chopper

[low timber]

But you need to get a lock before it can EMP, and the max range it can lock is 25m

[spare quest]

25m? feels like a longer range

[granite island]

So what you're saying is that it's impossible to EMP air vehicles

[hexed mango]

no

its not impossible

[low timber]

I’ve done it

[hexed mango]

just unlikely

[low timber]

Even today once

[granite island]

But whenever I try they just crash through my drone

[spare quest]

no crabs? ok

[kindred flint]

chad rao just hacks a vehicle from range ....meanwhile non-based casper has to fly drone point blank next to vehicle

[hexed mango]

on god.

rao = 🐐

[spare quest]

I love playing rao because he still keeps many heli pilots away from the battlefield as soon as you start to hack

[granite island]

Rao the stealth chopper repellent

[hexed mango]

rao is my dad

[spare quest]

I wanna T1 the AA launcher with him but this will take a long time

[hexed mango]

lets see if i can find smth

[kindred flint]

and come 3.2 you cant use the AA on rao

[spare quest]

wut

[kindred flint]

his class doesnt get access to launchers?

[spare quest]

aw shit

[spare quest]

well that means even less players will use rao then

[hexed mango]

unfortunately not

engineers only

hopefully that means if i hack shit people will actually shoot at it tho

[kindred flint]

why you tagging me, i knew that info

[hexed mango]

@kindred flint

[calm bison]

That is more satisfying than the plane kill Sound from BFV

[kindred flint]

welcome to the shitlist

[hexed mango]

🥵

[dapper river]

Season 1: season of stealth
Season 2: season of hybrids
Season 3: season of bullpup

[calm bison]

Also no one has been able to figure out what my PFP is

[quiet shell]

Season 4 will be the season of homemade guns (The ATF doesn't play this game)

[spare quest]

fallout guns

[quiet shell]

I was more thinking slam fires and Luty's

[hexed mango]

🍰

[arctic grove]

Cake

[hexed mango]

yes good, you have eyes

[calm bison]

I don’t have eyes

[arctic grove]

I have cybernetic eyes

[lean bridge]

Wich benefits for ultimate edition games

[spare quest]

yes

[hexed mango]

chrome

[arctic grove]

I can see gooey a mile away on Orbital

[spare quest]

sus

[hexed mango]

lmao

[arctic grove]

[hexed mango]

gooey do be built like that tho

[low timber]

Once 3.2 launches new players have only one engineer, Boris

[spare quest]

boris useless

[hexed mango]

boris needs buff

i mean crawdaddy, boris and lis

[arctic grove]

[low timber]

I hope S4 specialist is an engineer, so we’d have 3 engineers that can choose the launcher.

[hexed mango]

it is

[hexed mango]

we already have 3

oh

nvm

nvm

[low timber]

[spare quest]

Lis would be fine if the rockets would actually do damage everytime you hit a vehicle

[hexed mango]

i forgor about lis restriction

[low timber]

Well, already Lis can equip the AT mines without putting her self in a disadvantage

[hexed mango]

i think from what i remember:
S1 - Engineer
S2 - Support (-> Engineer as Irish moves)
S3 - Assault
S4 - Recon

[low timber]

Tbh I think the AT mines should be also given to one other class

[hexed mango]

assault maybe
recon wouldnt be a bad option either

[spare quest]

I think i never saw an AT mine before

[low timber]

Assault would be a good one as they have speed so they can get them in good places easiest

Maybe even swap the C5 to AT mine on Assault

[quiet shell]

I've noticed in the season 3 creator footage when you're low on health you can hear your characters heart beat

[drowsy seal]

Can't wait for class restriction with the recoiless

[quiet shell]

It'll make vehicles stronger since there wont be as many anti-vehicles around

[drowsy seal]

Yea

[lilac dust]

oooh more immersion? 👀

[drowsy seal]

Such an interesting concept with the new tank. Hopefully not too overpowered

[pine roost]

Oh please don’t add that

A heart beat effect genuinlly makes me feel sick

[eager spire]

i mean vehicles in 2042 were already shit due to that and tanks not having APS or any really kind of defensive measures

[lilac dust]

Well you hear and feel it IRL when you're fighting a war cos shit gets that crazy

[pine roost]

I know

But it makes me feel feint whenever anyone brings up the heart

Like if anyone asked me to check my pulse, I just couldn’t bring myself to do it

[lilac dust]

I'm not a fan of that to an extent either but I don't mind it in games if it's done right personally

[pine roost]

I get that it’s good for immersion, but it makes me feel awful when playing

Might ask them to make it a toggle if possible

I can’t be dealing with that in game

[drowsy seal]

I wonder if the new specialist will knock Mackay off the thrown for best specialist

[pine roost]

I know it’s stupid but it’s just one of those things that has always made me feel queasy

[lilac dust]

Ahem Sundance would like a word

[green bough]

Sundance hasn’t been good since season 1

[lilac dust]

Incorrect.

[quiet shell]

Nah, doesn't have McKay's nimble, He'll still win most gun fights

[green bough]

Since she lost a grenade and lots of speed on the wing suit?

[drowsy seal]

Sundance can be countered with Irish's APS

@lilac dust

[lilac dust]

You can still fly as far as you want. You just have to know how to control it and what height from.

If anything you can fly faster now

[green bough]

Untrue

[quiet shell]

I wonder if the MCS 880 will get a wider spread since the new shotgun has a wider spread

[lilac dust]

Incorrect.

[drowsy seal]

@lilac dust I still find myself shooting Sundance out of the sky like hunting for geese

[green bough]

Can you prove it?

[lilac dust]

Yes

[drowsy seal]

She honestly has not changed speed

At least not enough for me to notice and she my second main

[green bough]

Please do

If Sundance isn’t changed that’s honestly great

[drowsy seal]

I'm big on flanking so it will be interesting how much I can do with Rasheed

@quiet shell probably not lol

[drowsy seal]

.

[limpid pond]

Yo hey guys on my final 15 before I'm off work

How's everyone been

[spare quest]

what

[limpid pond]

Also here's the new season 3 vehicle rework

[spare quest]

we know

[drowsy seal]

Oh sweet thanks

@limpid pond

[quiet shell]

That's so fucking weak.

[limpid pond]

Yeah but its something.

[drowsy seal]

So whats the point of this rework?

[quiet shell]

Should be atleast 4 light transport, 2 armoured transport, 2 light armor, 1 tank, 1 air transport, 2 attack heli, and 2 jets

[spare quest]

That was something right?

[quiet shell]

Fucking BFV had twice the amount of avaliable vehicles

[drowsy seal]

I want the dirt bike in light vehicles please

[limpid pond]

Yeah well they have an issue with balancing vehicles in this game so it makes sense

[pine roost]

In all honesty I think one jet will work out fine. It can kill an attack heli in one strafe and the transport in 2-3, two of them would be a bit much

[limpid pond]

Plus we're supposedly getting double the content in year 2

[drowsy seal]

So I can knife kill someone while riding

[quiet shell]

The issue isn't the vehicles themselves its the fact that gave everything 30mm and 50mm guns.

[spare quest]

one new vehicle each season

[lilac dust]

2 attack heli. This man gets it! 👍

[green bough]

Really

[limpid pond]

Trust me I know. I played against it at launch for 3 months straight.

[quiet shell]

If they removed those in there entirety the vehicle problem would be instantly solved

[drowsy seal]

@spare quest basically

[limpid pond]

Yeah ea had a change in leadership over battlefield

[spare quest]

2 jets yet nobody wants to use them

[green bough]

Let’s hope the new leadership does well

[arctic grove]

Guys

[green bough]

I’m glad they’re not abandoning it

[drowsy seal]

Bc people suck at jets idk why its not hard

[arctic grove]

When's the update? I forgor

[lilac dust]

Nobody uses them because they're in the heli category genius

[spare quest]

22th

[limpid pond]

Well it's the ceo of titanfall and apex that's in charge of battlefield so yeah its gonna be good

[spare quest]

still

[arctic grove]

Alright, thanks

[pine roost]

I desperately do

[quiet shell]

I'd love to be able to talk to the DICE dev who handles vehicles and tell them to get rid of the 30 and 50mm guns. balancing problems INSTANTLY solved

[limpid pond]

I personally don't use any vehicles except the latv recon

And that's juts to drive to an objective

[spare quest]

I only use the hovercraft for the TOW missle

[limpid pond]

That's not how that works

[lusty temple]

Make hovercrafts fly again I say

[quiet shell]

Yes it is, they have no problem axing one of Sundances grenades (it wasn't even the one causing problems)

[pine roost]

So glad I’m going to be able to consistently take jets and actually have someone to target

[quiet shell]

They can easily axe those heavier turrets

[limpid pond]

No it's not lol. There's a reason why video gaming devs don't just remove stuff.

[quiet shell]

And whys that?

[limpid pond]

Because of code that interferes with other parts of the game lol. They axed the gernade because she had 3 and that's not right considering she can pair it with frags on top of that. It also was tied to nothing else in the game. 30mm and 50mm is on every vehicle. They then have to find replacements for those missing weapons without making the vehicle utterly useless

[pine roost]

It’s a jeep

[limpid pond]

Your reasoning will just lead to more complaining from both sides infantry and vehicle player s

[pine roost]

It shouldn’t have a 50/30 mm cannon on it

That’s one of the main things that has confused me about the small transport vehicles is that choice of weaponry

[quiet shell]

Okay then how about this, add recoil to the heavier turret. It's a problem lighter vehicles have when you start putting heavier guns on them

[eager spire]

i'd argue that some things in games are absolutely worth the effort in removing for balance and gameplay purposes. Visual recoil was worth removing in BF4 cause it was a distracting piece of shit mechanic. The SMG 08 in BF1 should've been removed.

[limpid pond]

Oh I'm not saying it's not worth removing but look at how many people worked on that game also. Nerfing things are simply easier than removing them

Hence why it's easier to add bloom to the avancys instead of nerfung it

[eager spire]

sure nerfing things is easier, but sometimes things are just bad ideas that shouldn't have been introduced at all.

[limpid pond]

It's already a code that they can just copy over and boom gun issue is somewhat solved

[limpid pond]

I'm not saying they are good ideas. Some ideas are terrible but not enough people to consistently work on them to fix by taking the longer route is all I'm saying

Surely if 2042 had 5× the support it has now it would be no issue removing the cannons

[quiet shell]

Just seems like the easiest possible fix

is to just remove them

[limpid pond]

It's by far not. Think of it as a cashier at Walmart needing to void an item off your purchase but they can't because they need manager approval. But you also have 300 items on the receipt. If you say just void the whole purchase and start over. It's not easier than waiting for the manager to come and fix it.

It would be easier whoever if you had more than one person helping and that's the biggest issue here. They're already short staffed and then have to run a whole game that has issues 24/7. Removing something then tryna figure out what issues it caused elsewhere would be a waste of time when you could just nerf it

[slender isle]

Isn’t the 30mm like useless now? It does next to no splash damage and hardly any actual damage

[limpid pond]

Nah it does hella splash

[slender isle]

Swear they nerfed it into the ground

I prefer the 50mm

[limpid pond]

On the bolte they did

[slender isle]

And on the Helis

[quiet shell]

Yeah that so fucking stupid

[limpid pond]

They mainly nerfed the stun on it

You actually couldn't even run with the stun affect on the 30mm

[quiet shell]

I hope the creative lead who decided to put 30 and 50mm guns on light vehicles doesn't work at DICE anymore

Cause that shit should've been axed in pre-production

[limpid pond]

Eh not the best idea doesn't mean to fire or someone should lose their job

[slender isle]

Light transport you can just insta kill half the time

[limpid pond]

That's the same as saying if you mess up and accidentally steal a pack of gum you should be nailed

Jailed

[sick rampart]

Anyone knows why my vertical recoil so high

[slender isle]

Skill issue

[arctic grove]

What FOV do you play at?

[quiet shell]

If that's the best creative decisions they can make then yeah maybe they shouldn't be the creative lead

[pine roost]

Maybe you’ve got attachments that increase it

I use those in favour of reduced horizontal

[limpid pond]

Well when you look at the creativity in general in bf 2042 you're basically saying ea shouldn't exist

[arctic grove]

Higher fov is good for reducing visual recoil effects so make sure you start with looking there

[eager spire]

EA shouldn't exist

[sick rampart]

corny ahh

[quiet shell]

I don't see the problem with that

[sick rampart]

95

[eager spire]

you know that bit in the simpsons where a lawyer imagines a world without lawyers?

[limpid pond]

Exactly you'd be complaining about a different game instead

[cosmic pike]

when s3 starts?

[eager spire]

also there are plenty of design decisions that i think would only lead to whoever made them not working on FPS games anymore.

[arctic grove]

Hmm, I play at 100-105. Make sure you check your attachments. Also modify your settings for better control with what’s comfortable for you

[quiet shell]

Yes, because DICE would've made a better battlefield game without EA

[arctic grove]

I don’t know about that

[sick rampart]

Nah fr in this game i Can barely move down my mouse while shooting in ads while i perfectcly Can in other games

[limpid pond]

Doubtful

[arctic grove]

EA is shoddy, but their resources are large

[sick rampart]

Like any other fps

[arctic grove]

Well 2042 has simplified gunplay.. so I’m not sure what to say, I suppose keep experimenting

[pine roost]

You got a clip you can share that shows it off?

[quiet shell]

The biggest fallout of 2042 is that EA took in too much power with the franchise and tried to use it too trend chase, and look what happened

DICE would know better than to trend chase

[arctic grove]

Yes, but at the end of the day nobody else can really replicate 2042 in the FPS Industry

EA did a stupid thing but BF does have massive resources behind it

[limpid pond]

Mouse delay was significantly improved and addressed so that has to be cap

[arctic grove]

That’s just my thought anyway, I don’t mean to debate you or anything, and I could be wrong

[pine roost]

I’ll still love bf no matter what

[eager spire]

It is fucking ridiculous that 2042 has better movement than the modern CoD game.

[pine roost]

Yeah that’s pretty funny

[eager spire]

improved and addressed, but not fixed.

It is not fixed. It's mitigated.

[sick rampart]

I'm in my bed sorry but imagine yourself trying to control a recoil and your control of thé vertical recoil is like nerfed

While on the horizontale i have no problèms

[drowsy shuttle]

bf 2042 is so much better than cod mw2 is not even funny anymore saying it.

[eager spire]

it's sad.

this is stupid.

[arctic grove]

Does it actually work to check corners and utilize walking more in that game? More like a more ‘tactical’ or “sentinel” play style, curiously asking

[eager spire]

in MW22? Moving is basically a straight penalty, you only get punished for that.

you try to play it like a regular CoD game, it's terrible.

[quiet shell]

Compared to Battlefield V though...

[arctic grove]

Yea, just asking since I figured when I get it I’ll try out the more navy seal team 6 type stuff and see how I do

Might be what CoD intended for

[eager spire]

...No.

[arctic grove]

(Besides appealing to more casual players)

[eager spire]

CoD has never been intended for doing tactical shooter shit. It's never done that.

it's always intended to be an arcade shooter. And it always was.

[pine roost]

Well on my end im not having too many problems, do some smooth tracking practise

[arctic grove]

Yeah my bad, clarifying here but besides appealing to casuals I figure that’s the best solution is to play more “tactically”

Or just camp

[eager spire]

those are ass solutions to solve problems that shouldn't even be a thing to begin with.

[pine roost]

I’ve seen snippets of gameplay from old cod games and they seem way faster

[eager spire]

IW just got their heads up their asses.

[eager spire]

you'd be right

[arctic grove]

2 years so… do you think they’ll eventually revert some changes?

[eager spire]

they are

[drowsy shuttle]

Only 3 things i would like to see in bf 2042 from mw2: a) gun smith, the weapon variety and costumization, etc... b) some operators skins/models ... c) the fact you can walk around inside a chopper and the smoothness jumping from one.

[eager spire]

I don't think so. I think they'll double down on this ridiculous "casual/tactical" bullshit they're doing.

They're also charging $70 for a premium expansion in year 2

so

[arctic grove]

Hmm yeah. Guess we’ll just have to see where it goes. I heard the devs upped the footstep sounds again today or some time recently

[pine roost]

Huh?

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[robust vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zojnGyZ-L0

[arctic grove]

I also do like it’s animations in general though

[robust vapor]

rail gun?

[pine roost]

The animations are good aside from shooting

[arctic grove]

I kinda like the visual recoil, on the M4 at least. It’s all I played with in the beta

Makes getting kills more satisfying at least in my personal opinion

[eager spire]

the visual recoil is obnoxious.

[arctic grove]

I learned it pretty quick tbh, but it gets in the way of ranged shooting

[eager spire]

Also it's a nerf to KBM players cause that's more bullshit you have to filter out to actually aim properly

meanwhile controller players don't have to do that

because aim assist is a thing and it's blatantly bullshit

[arctic grove]

I played with KBM during the beta

[pine roost]

Everyone knows that the goal, to make it more satisfying, but it impedes on your ability to acquire and track the target which is a big no no

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah I understand the disinterest for it

[pine roost]

It is possible to aim with screen centre, but the sight often blocks that

[eager spire]

tracking people with the M13 in MW19 was satisfying.

It didn't need obnoxious amounts of visual recoil for that.

[pine roost]

Gundam visual recoil go

[arctic grove]

What’s up with them upping the recoil effect? I saw a side by side with the M4 in MW19 to emphasize how much it’s changed

[eager spire]

they wanted to make everything more "tactical" and "realistic".

despite the fact that shooting an M4 full auto like that would not fucking shake around that much.

not if you're using it properly.

[arctic grove]

5.56 doesn’t kick around that much anyway according to what I’ve heard

[drowsy shuttle]

i know im late to the party, but i just saw the trailer for the season 3, and once again Dice marketing never disappoints... pretty damn cool...

[drowsy seal]

Depend on who is shooting it @arctic grove

[eager spire]

no it doesn't. there's a reason why it's so widely used.

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah it’s pretty cool, I’m glad they didn’t choose an infantry meatgrinder again

[arctic grove]

True

[slender isle]

You should watch the gameplay vids, map looks great

[drowsy seal]

I've seen some really ridiculous people shoot 5.56 when I was in the service

[arctic grove]

Oh, you served? I thought I read some messages from you about it. Army I think?

[drowsy seal]

Yea

[eager spire]

i'm sure you have. Everyone in CoD is meant to be like, a professional soldier, though.

so they shouldn't have any problems with that.

yet the gun shakes around like they're not even shouldering it properly.

[arctic grove]

Judging by the anims for how they reload and hold the guns they’re clearly proficient with them

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah i will watch it

[drowsy seal]

Well I was thinking the same recently but its more of the player and not the actual character

[arctic grove]

Or at least should be when it comes to firing

[lilac dust]

So the gameplay embargo is lifted and there seems to be no signs of a new weather event.... So we got tornadoes again on stranded and now nothing on spearhead just like exposure .... Sigh

[arctic grove]

Soon brother. Soon

[eager spire]

okay but here's the thing: that's dumb.

[spare quest]

[eager spire]

If you're playing as a professional in the video game, you should handle the gun like a professional.

This isn't an RPG, you're not leveling up your gun handling stats.

[wooden nymph]

People be talking about realism, but even professionals in real life some times close their eyes before shots? Should we have a microsecond of a black screen when shooting too? Also visual recoil, huge muzzle flashes and gun smoke are extremely unrealistic.
Just saying

[drowsy seal]

@eager spire which they do by the way they hold and reload cant give the gamer the ability of a professional soldier because then everyone would have crazy ass accuracy

[eager spire]

controller players already do, due to the aim assist the game has

[drowsy seal]

Yea so imagine with zero recoil

[arctic grove]

It depends. Visual recoil exists, muzzle flashes really depends on how guns are built sometimes, gun smoke happens

[drowsy seal]

The game would not be fun

[eager spire]

I'm not saying no recoil.

I'm saying no visual recoil. Recoil can still exist without fucking shaking the gun all over the damn place.

[arctic grove]

Not a smokescreen after a single mag tho, but that was taken out of the game during the betas first week iirc

[pine roost]

Realistic isn’t fun either

[drowsy seal]

Games are build to give the player the ability to improve and actually get better.

[eager spire]

Also that, realism fucking sucks.

[pine roost]

Which this doesn’t

[drowsy seal]

@pine roost it really isn't, we live life gaming is to escape that

[eager spire]

And they do that through map design, learning recoil control, and learning how to move effectively. None of which MW22 rewards or even bothers teaching. Controller players literally have the game fucking aiming for them.

[wooden nymph]

Visual recoil doesn't look like how it shown in games
Most modern guns have zero to non flashes
Just like you've said, you shouldn't see smoke after one mag. Your gun is in bad shape if you do

[wooden nymph]

In an arcade shooter*

[arctic grove]

I don’t think the guns smokescreen anymore in the game tho?

[eager spire]

nah in general

[arctic grove]

Or do they, just asking

[eager spire]

the honey badger seems to but that also technically isn't released yet

[wooden nymph]

I want games like Insurgency too, don't take it away

[drowsy seal]

Flash does happen and being able to see the round. Shoot a gun at night to have a better visual

[arctic grove]

Muzzle flash I feel depends on what you’re shooting

I’ve shot handguns and seen it, now for full scale ARs I’m not sure lol

[drowsy seal]

They do

More gunpowder in the rounds so deff will see it

[eager spire]

but yeah MW22 is an arcade shooter trying to be a tactical shooter and failing at both while also catering to the lowest possible denominator for the sake of microtransaction and DLC sales for a $70 game.

[arctic grove]

What was your MOS btw?

[wooden nymph]

There is a video of people shooting RPK until it explodes and the gun barely has any flash before they reach about 500-750 rounds

[drowsy seal]

92A, logistics but never touched it lol

[arctic grove]

Ah, never touched what tho? Confused by your wording a little bit

[drowsy seal]

Drove LMTVs and HEMTT

Oh like I never did logistics until the end of my contract

[arctic grove]

Oh gotcha

[pine roost]

Found out how to do a jumping slide like in bf4

[arctic grove]

I’m willing to try it out with a more tactical playstyle personally

[pine roost]

Harder to do actually

[limpid pond]

Huh? Tell me how

[eager spire]

yay, you did it

[pine roost]

You just need to make sure that you hit the ground without any movement input and without holding ads

You can ads and shoot mid jump and let go before you hit the ground, then if you let go you’ll slide and can ads again

[eager spire]

you can try. you'll probably just die to controller players holding angles though.

[pine roost]

Difference is that in bf4 you can do it while holding ads

But you also can’t really shoot in the air in 4

[ebon matrix]

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[arctic grove]

Yeah I’ve seen gameplay and it seems like there’s 300 different doors and angles too so that’s concerning, but, anywho

[ebon matrix]

w username

[eager spire]

yup. which is impressive since the maps are smaller than they were in MW19

[arctic grove]

Thanks man

[eager spire]

it's incredible that they stuffed even more doors and angles.

and you can also go underwater

[limpid pond]

That sounds like the slide jump slide

[spiral folio]

I wish they'd say before you order that a pizza will tale 50 frikin minutes

[eager spire]

yeah except it's just the jump slide

it's good tho, it's one of the pillars of BF4 movement

and it's why i like the game.

[pine roost]

You can’t initiate a slide after jumping from a slode, you lose your speed after the first. So it’s just a jump slide. But you can’t string them together like 4 unless you build up momentum again

Which usually requires the trav sprint and a small amount of time

But you can do a jump with ads then flick to the side, fast sprint then do a slide while ads to throw off your enemy

That’s really all the movement there is

When of course in 4 you can jump around like a madman constantly sliding with complete control

[royal swan]

Still confused why the railgun will be in the utility

Wouldn't it be idk in the marksman

Or sniper

[pine roost]

Well it’s everything really

So it makes sense to me

[royal swan]

Maybe I'm confused on why utility with be a class proficiency

Yeah maybe that's it

If it's the shotguns then move the shotguns to a new category

They don't need to be in utility

[lean bridge]

I donlowad game in my computer

[eager spire]

I personally don't have much problem with shotguns being in the Utility category.

Shotguns shouldn't get proficiencies.

[royal swan]

Bogus claim you just hate shotguns

They just don't fit in a category with a railgun

[eager spire]

You can't look at the 12M auto and tell me that thing deserves to exist.

[royal swan]

Imagine a proficiency with a railgun

Especially when it's still in it's broken op state

[spiral folio]

Probably so you dont get combinations with various hero-gadgets

[eager spire]

What makes you think it would be OP? The gun's not even out yet.

[spiral folio]

Like how the Lis rocket wont let you carry another rocket launcher

[royal swan]

Play test, YouTubers got the hand on the preview

[spiral folio]

Thats my guess

[eager spire]

oh right i forgot that happens

i've not seen any footage of it.

[pine roost]

You’ll enjoy it

Trust me

[royal swan]

And I'm serious when I say this the shotgun is the second most balanced thing to come out of this season

[pine roost]

The thing is a one shot headshot practically hitsxan sniper with a half second or so charge up time

That apparently also damages vehicles

[eager spire]

That reminds me of the P06 from Black Ops 3.

[pine roost]

Then of course the air burst is the air burst

[eager spire]

But the P06 was a 3 round burst.

[spiral folio]

Damages doesn't mean damages a lot

[royal swan]

The shotgun is just fucking tame compared to the railgun

[pine roost]

If it can damage it at all with a practically hitscan projectile, that’s pretty important

[spiral folio]

The nsfw50 does like 2 damage to tanks

[eager spire]

so wait

[pine roost]

Means anywhere in the map you can take damage

[eager spire]

if the rail gun is a sniper

why is it in Utility?

[pine roost]

It’s also an assault rifle

[eager spire]

why is it not classed as a sniper?

[spiral folio]

Lis rocket

[pine roost]

And a fusion rifle I believe

[eager spire]

bullshit

[pine roost]

It’s got attachments that completely change its function

[eager spire]

oh come on it's a fucking hybrid gun?

[royal swan]

It has a Burst and auto mode

[eager spire]

This is stupid.

Pick a mode and balance the gun around it, dammit.

[pine roost]

So yes it can become an ar on the fly

[royal swan]

Also the single shot, the sniper mode is a FUCKING HIT SCAN

No bullet drop

[eager spire]

It's the BSVM again.

[spiral folio]

Id sooner trust the awful aim on the P50 than a hipmfire burst on the rail

[eager spire]

UGH

[royal swan]

Fast bullet velocity

[pine roost]

P50 isn’t that bad

[royal swan]

And it deals MORE DAMAGE TO VEHICLES THAN THE AP BULLETS

[pine roost]

But I can’t imagine the hipfire of the rail will be all that accurate lol

[spiral folio]

Irl the p50 is good

Ingame its an automatic staplegun

[pine roost]

I’ve not seen it damage vehickes yet

[lean bridge]

Anyone did play I right battlefield 2042

[pine roost]

But as soon as it drops I’ll be testing damage values

[eager spire]

I would not mind it being a dedicated sniper rifle with the charge up time slowed down.

[spiral folio]

I do decently with the p50 v bots but they stand there and let you unload 20rds into em

[eager spire]

But the fact that it can be multiple types of guns as once is stupid.

[spiral folio]

Real 5.7mm is really good v body armor

Not plates though

[pine roost]

It only takes like 5 to kill doesn’t it

[spiral folio]

Kevlar

Head d maybe

I think body is more 10ish

[pine roost]

I swear it’s got a fast ttk

[eager spire]

oh hey, XM8 LMG is in this.

[royal swan]

You should see it fire in single mode, basically a hit scan

[pine roost]

I’ll check it out in the morning

[spiral folio]

Fast ttk because it fires like mad

[eager spire]

ugggggh

[kindred flint]

my expectations were low for this railgun but holy fuck dice outdid it

[spiral folio]

My expectation is always to be let down

[eager spire]

this is stupid, why do they keep doing this "oh this gun can be a sniper rifle and an assault rifle at the same time" bullshit

They did it with the BSVM aswell

[royal swan]

No bullet drop and fast bullet velocity, it really makes the shotgun look so fucking tame

[pine roost]

Can’t wait to turn the game into duck hunt and see if I can shoot jets out of the sky

[eager spire]

and that was OP as shit

[kindred flint]

the only "downside" to it is the delay in firing when up close..but then its got such high damage you kill them anyways

[spiral folio]

The "burst" will be low charge so that's why

[eager spire]

the delay is not even that bad

and if you're shooting at distance it doesn't matter

[royal swan]

And it can kill vehicles like tanks and helis with a couple of shots

[spiral folio]

Can you carry an ammo box on this guy?

[pine roost]

No shot

[eager spire]

It's literally like the P-06 from CoD Black Ops 3.

[spiral folio]

That'd be a huge nerf

[eager spire]

Except somehow even more OP

Which is amazing considering the P06 was basically the best sniper rifle in Black Ops 3.

[pine roost]

I look forward to testing this

I’ll stay as far back as I can, put on my pro sixshot glasses and see what can be done

[eager spire]

ALSO AT LEAST WITH THE P06 YOU HAD TO COMMIT TO CHARGING UP YOUR SHOT

[royal swan]

I'm going to abuse every single fucking stealth heli I see, they can all die and eat shit

[eager spire]

With this you can just cancel a shot whenever you feel like