battlefield-2042

[next onyx]

Doesn't matter about the spam. People would throw fire bombs and rush areas.

I would be that one sitting back with the scar and tear gas grenades.

[keen loom]

[next onyx]

Then when people started putting on their own masks I would switch to my own gadget like breaching charges or ballistic shield.

[eager spire]

still, seems like an incredibly situational gadget. It wouldn't see much use.

[next onyx]

Yeah true.

But you can make some fun playstyles out of it.

[eager spire]

meh

[next onyx]

We just need another blood money.

[upbeat sand]

Give us hazard zone missions

[upbeat sand]

Give us special cosmetic unlocks if you play hazard zone

[tame cobalt]

give flamethrower to support class

[upbeat sand]

Genevia

[last swift]

😂

[eager spire]

I think they should just let Hazard Zone die.

it ain't working.

[upbeat sand]

I miss it

[tame cobalt]

Either way, assault and support should be where they focus for future gadgets

[keen loom]

Hazard Zzz

[tame cobalt]

With the rate things are going, we'll only get 2 more gadgets so hopefully both of them are either assault or support

[keen loom]

[tame cobalt]

assault is truly fucked because armor plate is hated (by me) and c5 with mackay/sundance is also hated

[mossy badge]

[eager spire]

They also made it so the SCAR 2 headshots armor users.

[tame cobalt]

so that would leave them with... smoke launcher

[eager spire]

effectively removing the point of running Armor

[tame cobalt]

lol rip

[eager spire]

As well as any AR's that do the same amount of damage as the SCAR

which i think is most of them except for the M5 and AM40?

[tame cobalt]

scar has lowest btk afaik

[dusk zodiac]

Yeah it does

5 shots to kill

[tame cobalt]

4

[eager spire]

yeah but there are guns that do the same damage, just not as long range. Those would have the same BTK in that range.

[dusk zodiac]

Oh yah

[eager spire]

I know the AK24 does

[edgy oriole]

m5>all

[violet meteor]

There is this battle rage ability that is pretty much paik XD dope

[tame cobalt]

Still waiting for a 3hk automatic gun (besides bsvm high power)

[eager spire]

SCAR is 2HK

[tame cobalt]

i mean body shots

[eager spire]

i assumed the H meant headshots.

[tame cobalt]

i assumed it meant 3 hit kill

dunno

just want those chauchat vibes

[keen loom]

[eager spire]

anyway i'm illustrating how stupid the SCAR is after they buffed the headshot multiplier on AR's for no reason

[tame cobalt]

Good

[violet meteor]

Good indeed

[eager spire]

I donno, I don't think it was justified, I don't think anyone was really having a problem killing people with AR's before the change.

[violet meteor]

They certainly won't now

[full burrow]

probablt to make it easier to get kills at longer ranges since due to many shit there is a lot of distances in the game

[eager spire]

but that was already very possible.

[mint crown]

Yo I can't find nobody to hang with cuz I'm on PS4 so I can't technically join anybody else I'm losing hope in this game

[eager spire]

Sure there were guns that weren't great at it but it was possible, and i feel like a change to the drop off distances would've been more justified than the headshot multiplier change.

[full burrow]

very possible sure but I dont like engaging at further ranges and before I used to get a lot of ooh a headshot shouldnt be much hp left and then another bullet still doesnt kill ect

hmm dunno

as long as smg can still win vs ar up close its all good

[eager spire]

eh, that's debatable. SMG's got shafted for no good reason.

[full burrow]

dunno I was running with pbx doing the missions and even without many unlocks its good

at its ranged you can hold down mb

[eager spire]

still, it's no contest against an AR, especially if the AR happens to get headshots on you.

[full burrow]

whereas say AK or Scar at their ranges (bit longer) I would want to tap fire

[eager spire]

well you can still 2 shot someone with armor to the head up to like 75 meters.

[full burrow]

I got a 15inch laptop I cant even see heads >.<

[eager spire]

well that's not really a game issue, i don't know what you expect anyone to do about that.

[full burrow]

magic mushroom gadget

makes enemies heads appear bigger for easier aiming

[keen loom]

[violet meteor]

I have good news

I learned to get good with handguns in cod mw2 beta

https://tenor.com/view/the-mask-thank-you-award-gif-15024738

[edgy oriole]

[keen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-quarantine-sleeping-sleeping-beauty-beauty-sleep-gif-16980796

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/munchlax-sleepy-sleep-pokemon-night-gif-18513926

[full burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-gif-18759864

[still vault]

#other-games

[tame cobalt]

Snorkel

[mossy badge]

munchlax

[full burrow]

i play

[loud flower]

Y'know what
I think they added all those vehicles in MW22 to t-pose all over Battlefield
Just to prove they can do battlefield better than battlefield
I can already picture ground war/warzone rumble full of people with vehicles everywhere dropping ordinance and paratroopers all over the place, snipers, MG positions and mortar call ins with rocket launchers popping and flares dropping about literally every single second but in a cooler way

No carbonic, it concerns BF42 so I'm still technically in the nails on that one

[summer zenith]

Mw2 doesn't even have the bf feeling lmao

[quaint wigeon]

i prefer BF over COD bc of how BF plays

[summer zenith]

Same

[eager spire]

What is the BF feeling?

Really?

[summer zenith]

Cod is just not fun anymore

Its just use the best gun or die

[loud flower]

not yet, they haven't released the big maps for now

[eager spire]

that's how most FPS games operate.

that's not exclusive to CoD.

[quaint wigeon]

i mean i liked ground war but i feel like cod just doesnt do it well enough

[loud flower]

well
actually no
not this time
I've tried most of the guns available
and aside of the shotgun being on the weaker end, it's pretty darn balanced tbh

[quaint wigeon]

nor is it a popular game mode really

[summer zenith]

Its the beta

[eager spire]

Shotguns should be on the weaker end in my honest opinion.

[loud flower]

that's fair but 3 shells mid thorax (which is already a feat in itself with that slow ass firerate) and still don't get the kill is just lame at that point

[eager spire]

that's just funny to me

I don't really like shotguns in PVP shooters anyway.

[loud flower]

well since MW19, the betas have been almost identical to final release gameplay so...

[loud flower]

yeah but in CQB they're a good addition to the available arsenal
I can use ARs and SMG in close range but sometimes I shit my aim all over the place but where I wanna shoot when I'm in a panic so I kinda want something like a shotgun that I can hipfire confidently

[eager spire]

eh, i feel they appeal to people who can't aim and aren't willing to learn.

[summer zenith]

I mean a shotgun is goot for clearing rooms

[eager spire]

I personally find that incredibly annoying, as someone who generally likes getting better at video games.

[summer zenith]

Play ranked ez

[eager spire]

is MW22 even gonna have ranked play?

...Oh god that would be fucking cancer with crossplay actually, unless aim assist is disabled

[summer zenith]

I heard its gonna have one

[eager spire]

they didn't say anything about it, i don't think.

[loud flower]

I can aim and I'm willing to learn how to aim a new gun
(hell, I'm obligated to just for the camo grind)
but when I don't feel like overclocking my brain to get a few kills, I want something of simpler brain power requirement

[next onyx]

Cod vehicles aren't particularly good.

[loud flower]

have you tried them ? which game mode are they in ?

[next onyx]

I have.

And they're bad.

[eager spire]

Eh, it's not about overclocking your brain, it's just that shotguns require literally no brain activity to use, really.

[next onyx]

No countermeasures. Limited view arc, no way to repair.

[quaint wigeon]

you could also shoot down cod killstreaks pretty easy including helis

[loud flower]

which game mode are they in ?

[loud flower]

that's the beta

[quaint wigeon]

if i could do that in BF

man

id have a ball

[loud flower]

I thought they added flares this time ?
and gas stations enable repairs apparently

[eager spire]

I donno, I'm probably not gonna play Ground war.

Maybe the 20v20 Invasion mode but that's it

[summer zenith]

Im probably gonna wait untill its like 20bucks or something

[loud flower]

you can't say anything about it if you don't even try it tho

[loud flower]

when would that be lol

[eager spire]

yes i can.

Who's gonna stop me?

[next onyx]

Ground war in itself is just people camping for streaks.

[summer zenith]

The game is gonna last 3 years they said

[loud flower]

your opinion is quite literally invalid if you judge something that you aren't even gonna try once tho

[eager spire]

Can't really expect me to play something i'm already not that interested in from the outset.

My opinion is that i am not interested.

I'm more of a smaller scale player, 6v6 is fine for me.

[loud flower]

then you and me have played different games
because while there is sniper campers like in BF but slightly worse, people do move around a whole lot

[next onyx]

Amazing to hear people moving around in that mode considering the quick ttk and that.

[pine roost]

Nothing has been able to recreate that battlefield feeling successfully

[eager spire]

On a different topic, I'm surprised that one map they showed off that takes place on a race track isn't in the beta.

[next onyx]

I can play hardline with better crafted maps and similar TTK.

[loud flower]

@next onyx you didn't tell me which game mode has the vehicles
I tried TDM, Dom, prisoner rescue and knock out and they're all 6v6
were you invited at COD NEXT then ?

[next onyx]

Ground war vehicles. If that wasn't obvious enough.

[eager spire]

I'm still not sure what people mean when they say "that battlefield feeling".

That seems like an incredibly subjective thing.

[next onyx]

My view is coming from the mw beta and the free weekends.

[pine roost]

Combined arms, team oriented, heavily strategic combat

[loud flower]

you meant MW19 ? I thought you meant MW22 all along because that was the subject at the start when I talked vehicles bruh

[next onyx]

To be fair I don't expect them to learn much with the vehicles.

If I wasn't clear enough my bad.

[eager spire]

I've only ever experienced 1/3 in an actual Battlefield game.

[quaint wigeon]

COD should take away the one shot kill dmg from snipers lol

[pine roost]

It certainly is subjective, to some people bf is just cod but on a bigger map, I on the other hand feels it’s far different

[eager spire]

why?

[quaint wigeon]

make it a certain distance haha

[next onyx]

Playing cod with that quick ttk. It feels cheap but it doesn't ironically.

[loud flower]

considering how greatly improved are the weapons and the maps, I wouldn't be so sure about that

[eager spire]

That's stupid.

it was stupid when BF1 did it.

[quaint wigeon]

im just saying no good reason really lol

[next onyx]

Battlefield does vehicles better for the most part.

Playing through vanguard and fighting Sherman's all they were were just glorified battering rams.

Different game but you know. With the time they've had to improve I don't expect much.

[eager spire]

I mean, BF is an arcade shooter that takes itself more seriously. That's all it is.

[mossy badge]

when i played 2042 it also felt sooooooo cheap

[narrow stag]

I hope the next bf will be bettee

[next onyx]

Battlefield has a longer ttk.

A slightly longer ttk.

[loud flower]

I'm sorry but having no traction whatsoever on the light truck, no balance whatsoever in the air vehicles and blowing up at the slightest touch in armored vehicles doesn't feel so much better than ground war

[narrow stag]

Has it decreased scince bf1?

[pine roost]

Besides, cod just doesn’t look fun to me. Too many cheesy mechanics and pretty dull combat

[next onyx]

And the guns that kill quick are often very limiting.

[eager spire]

It looks fine to me.

[jade hill]

As long as its not fast as mw19 il'get it

[next onyx]

Light truck? You mean the arty truck from bf1 or the C RAM from 2042? 2042 doesn't do land vehicles much justice. It's why I said for the most part.

[jade hill]

Mw19 felts like ur on crack

So speedy

[eager spire]

That's the appeal.

[jade hill]

Its like battlefield but playing it on 3x speed

[eager spire]

I like going fast.

[jade hill]

I haze it

[mossy badge]

2042 doesn't do justice to anything

[jade hill]

Black ops 2 most gun I've had fun with

Game*

[loud flower]

Yeah I meant 42
I get your point

[next onyx]

I mean it does justice to its gunplay and air vehicles.

[pine roost]

That’s just based on what I’ve seen though, I’ll wait to play the beta before a final judgment

[full burrow]

wtf does the RAM AA have a lock range of like 200m?

[mossy badge]

felt really cheap to me

[next onyx]

@jade hill BLACK OPS 2 BASED.

Best cod, runner up with og mw2.

[mossy badge]

subjective i guess

[eager spire]

I have 1k hours in Black Ops 2 multiplayer on PC.

[mossy badge]

[eager spire]

I don't remember much about it at this point.

[next onyx]

Air vehicles are cheap.

It feels like another life time for me. @eager spire

[jade hill]

It was simple

[next onyx]

Simple yet fun.

No shit metas.

Simple progression.

Good maps.

[jade hill]

Ye

[next onyx]

Little bullshit.

[jade hill]

I mean there was meta, but like

[next onyx]

It wasn't too overbearing.

Hey look you can run a funny type 25.

Sorry I gotta watch breaking bad. Take care!

[jade hill]

:(

[mossy badge]

cya

[summer zenith]

Like now you have no recoil guns that even an 8 year old can use

You need zero skill

[violet meteor]

I got pinged by a mod almost an hour later for saying a cod related comment here lol

Then the discussion just shifts to cod involving a separate mod

The fuck

[pine roost]

We’re discussing the differences between cod and bf

[eager spire]

skill issue

[pine roost]

Also yes, skill issue

[quaint wigeon]

skill issue my friend

[violet meteor]

Also, I've been called so many horrible things today, and that's just the beta

XD

[mossy badge]

proximity ?

[violet meteor]

Nah just the usual end of round shenanigans

Totally not surprised

[mossy badge]

🤣

[violet meteor]

Although proximity is nice

[glass trail]

proxy will only be in dmz and warzone 2 sadly

[mossy badge]

in my battlefield experience these things happens with texts
using bad words and calling each other cheater 😂😂😂

[glass trail]

wouldve been funny if it was in mp as well

[violet meteor]

Bf is just "*******"

[eager spire]

would likely be a problem due to the size of the maps in 6v6

would make team communication a pain

[glass trail]

imagine being behind some and you just whisper

[mossy badge]

then execute the enemy

[glass trail]

[violet meteor]

I only heard 1 person using a mic to talk strategically lol

[mossy badge]

[violet meteor]

The rest were people with unmuted controller mics or just angry when they die

Such is the way of the duty of call

[pine roost]

I use text chat more than voice most of the time, since most of the time, people in my squad don’t speak English

[mossy badge]

i think people communicate a lot in rainbow six siege to blame each other

[glass trail]

still haven’t found the typical cod match

[violet meteor]

Entertaining nonetheless

No complaints here

Proximity is tricky tho

I've only seen it in mmo games like elder scrolls online. I can't imagine it being in 2042

Lol just hearing it in breakthrough I'd lose my mind

[full burrow]

generally in games that have local/global whatever voice its a good idea to mute

unless you want earrape for content and shit

[violet meteor]

[arctic grove]

Is 2042 on the gamepass yet?

[uncut bay]

no

[arctic grove]

Alright thanks

[violet meteor]

Can't you just like, search for it on gamepass?

I know jack shit about it

[cobalt dove]

Hey attachments I have the necessary kills for arent unlocked what do I do?

[willow citrus]

Reach the next kill milestone

[cobalt dove]

I’ve got like 9 attachments I can’t use

[uncut bay]

get to the next mastery rank

basically get 30 kills

[arctic grove]

Well I can't really do it rn so I thought about asking

[loud flower]

Or wait for DICE to fix that bug

Spoiler alert, they won't

[uncut bay]

probably will eventually

just don't hold your breath

[limber garden]

You guys should create a new class named dead weight

[chilly jacinth]

its already a thing and its called squadmate

[next onyx]

Nah it's called recon.

[tame cobalt]

Spotting and insertion is very useful

Limiting them to only snipers was dumb though

[chilly jacinth]

beacons are so useful at the back of the map

[tame cobalt]

Only engineer and recon should have snipers, but they shouldn't have just snipers

[rustic root]

i miss carrying repair torch and rocket launcher

[wraith ridge]

Haha classic setup

[rustic root]

i also miss shouting at allie’s “HERES YOUR AMMO GO GET IT”

[wraith ridge]

What time zone are you in? I have a PS4 as well. I'm in EST. I usually play on Saturdays tho

[spring locust]

It was easier to get the m60 in 2042 then it was in bf4. Thank the lords

[little lagoon]

Every time I play for the first time, it's the end of a round whhhyy

[arctic grove]

Cus some people leave if they're losing and you get dumped in

[celest sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/neowww-nyoom-gif-20483739

[rustic root]

nah man i got the m60 in bf4 when them russians turned to The allie’s in D-Day

[eager spire]

The BF4 M60 sucked, for some reason the front sight was always present and it blocked your vision

it was really annoying

[little lagoon]

Sad

[modest ivy]

Rush XL gotta get a longer timer
We were attacking on noshahr canals and had been slowly pushing forward
Last sector, last mcom about to be armed
"Defeat"... sadge
Gotta have a timer per sector rather than match timer

[silk jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDHoewR5UQg 😍

[cobalt dove]

Hey btw

I spawned on this weird beacon which spawned me in the air

Looked like a radar dish

Wtf is that?

[full burrow]

thats the ebcram deployable spawn beacon

if its placed outdoors it spawns you in a paachute

[cobalt dove]

I don’t know what that is

It’s not equipment is it?

[full burrow]

the ebcram is the new tank thingy

[cobalt dove]

It can place a spawn beacon?

[full burrow]

yeah

the driver has it

[cobalt dove]

[full burrow]

just hide it rly well and cos it starts you so high up you can basically just fly anywhere

[cobalt dove]

When I spawned in I couldn’t move for ages

[full burrow]

skill issue

dear battlefield please let me sit in a que instead of joining a game about to end

[sharp marten]

No

You’ll join that game ending and you’ll join it with a ducking smile

[cobalt dove]

What w are re the best bsv scopes for console?

[chilly jacinth]

the one that comes with the gun

[cobalt dove]

Though so

I’ll keep a 6X for when I’m sniping

[late bloom]

Hello

[rich flicker]

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-dancing-duck-walk-away-gif-21526535

[quaint mural]

Anyone interested in joining a milsim server

[spare quest]

No

[quaint mural]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[spare quest]

nice link

[quaint mural]

Thanks I’ve been working on it

[rotund vortex]

Is the AM40 worth grinding attachments for?

[still vault]

It's fine at ing

[rotund vortex]

It’s kinda inaccurate, feels like it should be an SMG

[spare quest]

The headshot damage and ammo count for the am40 are still bugged

[rotund vortex]

Just seems like a K30 with slower TTK

[solar tinsel]

It is kinda billed as one, to be honest.

I like the AM40, but I believe the ammo types are bugged, right?

The Standard issue magazines are 20 rounds, when they should be 30 I think

duh someone literally just said that above

hope they fix that soon

[upbeat sand]

Dice did say the am40 is a sorta mix in between smg and AR

Also headshot multiplier is bugged to use smg instead of ar

[vast cloak]

Finally got my m5a3 T1🤡😂

[spare quest]

yes

[vast cloak]

Am40 is good on the inside of the ship on stranded tho

[mint crown]

Who's down to play some battlefield with me I'm on PS4 it's a struggle

[late bloom]

let's do it

[vast cloak]

And inside of data center on exposure

[chilly jacinth]

i got it T1 so i wont touch it again

was painful to use all the way

[solar obsidian]

@vast cloak

[vast cloak]

Yeah I got all the attachments and I’m like is it worth continuing to use it?

[vast cloak]

PC MASTER RACE

[solar obsidian]

big brain

[vast cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-shocked-ashtonished-astounded-explosion-gif-4927161

[obsidian elk]

Yo is the m16 good?

[vast cloak]

Pretty Lack luster tbh

[obsidian elk]

Rip

[mental delta]

Recoil is crazier than the last LMG, a developer said they would patch it though, I hope it will come soon

[solar tinsel]

Its recoil pattern is substantially different than the rest - seems like they didn't do a "2042 balance pass" after all

That said, it's underbarrel grenades are pretty good, and it has decent punch if I recall

[mental delta]

It feels like a raw Portal weapon, I checked stats and they are the same with Portal version of the weapon so that's not surprising

[solar tinsel]

thats good to know at least

[mental delta]

Yeah I just hope it will get patched in the really next update

[solar tinsel]

I thought the whole point of 'waiting' was to make modifications to fall in line with 2042 weapons, add unlock progressions, cosmetic support, etc.

and none of that happened 😆

Shame, because S2 has been a nice season/update otherwise

[mental delta]

Me too and that's what they firstly announced, it seems like they made us wait for nothing special finally

[solar tinsel]

just a real random thing to swing and miss on

[arctic grove]

I feel like the Hk416 is the only decent portal weapon

[solar tinsel]

yeah, and thats not even in the lineup yet as a Vault wep in the coming future

hopefully one day it will

[mental delta]

It could be perfect in AOW tbh, I still don't get why we didn't get it yet

[arctic grove]

Well

Maybe in 2 seasons

[fiery dawn]

Because Dice is incompetent now

[mental delta]

After 2 seasons game is over anyway

[arctic grove]

Imagine it's the last weapon they're gonna release

[solar tinsel]

I think specifically, they had bad leadership and planning. The newer content is better, but I bet you some infrastructure thing made it harder to do something simple like port a Portal wep over to AoW. Because of poor planning earlier

[next onyx]

Within their own meta these guns are as powerful as they were.

[solar tinsel]

but hopefully the new leadership can turn the studio around

[arctic grove]

You know what I want? A modern but not xm5 m4 weapon

[mental delta]

Probably not a full team of dev o the game though, that makes things happen a way slower

[fiery dawn]

Yeah that would be real nice but I’m not holding out hope

[solar tinsel]

My guess is it's a typical "post-launch" dev team, which yes, is much smaller than production

[mental delta]

Like M4A3 ? Me too and that's what I expected as you can see this weapon in all artworks

[mental delta]

Yes while this game needed far more devs on it post-launch if they wanted to make as much content as they initially planned to do it, I just hope all the other devs are on the next BF

[arctic grove]

Something like that, maybe something from mw2, these types of m4s

[solar tinsel]

100% that's the crux of it, a standard post-launch crew was not enough, since the game literally wasnt even done

so that crew needed to finish a game AND make post-launch content

hence why everything took so long and why each update has not much

[arctic grove]

Man we're still 10 days away from the late sept update

Isn't it scheduled for sept 27-29th?

[solar tinsel]

I thought it was a soft "late sept, early oct"

[mental delta]

Yeah just crazy after 10 months we only got 5 new weapons and 2 maps, bot what they promised at all and not what we expected

[solar tinsel]

but - so far - they've been hitting their monthly cadence, so unless something holds them up, I'd expect it in Sept.

they were actually even early last month if I recall

[arctic grove]

Dice is not capable of releasing two big updates a month so I'm assuming it's late September

And then mid October we get orbital rework

[solar tinsel]

yeah it's roughly a month, they were a bit faster last updates, 8/1 was 1.2 and 8/28 was 2.0

so yeah I think late Sept. is where we'll be for 2.1

[mental delta]

I really wonder what season 3 and 4 will look like, I don't see them getting us more content than they did with these first 2 seasons

[solar tinsel]

I imagine it will be the same, theyve even said that

[arctic grove]

Maybe we'll get real weapons

So far we've got an abomination of an assault rifle and an lmg that punishes you too hard

[solar tinsel]

1 new map, 2-3 new weapons, 1 gadget or throwable, 1-2 new vehicles, 2-3 map reworks throughout the course of the season, 5-6 vault weapons throughout the course of the seasn

[arctic grove]

Oh and don't forget the crossbow with the bsvm

[mental delta]

Yeah and considering game will die after season 4 we'll never get the game's major improvements we wanted like night maps and more important, naval combat maps

[solar tinsel]

I could see night maps happening. Naval would be tough, because I don't know how good their water mechanics are, doesn't seem as good as BF4/BF1 etc

[mental delta]

Still not new weapons to me as crossbow is a gadget and BSVM just a remastered AS VAL

[solar tinsel]

Given Zampella's recent comments too, I anticipate a total "back to basics" for the next Battlefield entry

or, at least, back to prioritizing fun that people enjoy

[mental delta]

Yeah I think it's over for naval combat gameplay, the core game doesn't seem to have these BF4 naval features like going under water and doesn't even have maps with a decent water area

[late bloom]

lol

[solar tinsel]

right

obviously the work wasn't done in time, maybe they wanted to, but had to cut it

[arctic grove]

They're all uninteresting for me. I'm yet to say "damn this weapon looks sick" to all so far seasonal weapons

I want some tactical weapons

[solar tinsel]

I've enjoyed the new weapons to be honest

[arctic grove]

mp5, ar-15 variants

[mental delta]

Yeah they really have to make fans to trust the franchise again and that will be hard of they make the next game like BF2042, I hope we'll get classes back and a decent amount of content unlike this game has

[arctic grove]

Proper scar-h without the gl

This thing is first on my wishlist

[mental delta]

Yeah I understand I also feel disappointed by new weapons, but as excited as I was to see new weapons coming to BF4 for example

[solar tinsel]

I think they need to move to classes again, but I'm ok with specialist-like abilities you can equip.

Then if they want to monetize, let players customize their solider with gear from battle passes, etc: helmets, backpacks, camos etc.

but each class has its own trademark gear item, etc.

[mental delta]

Game lacks real existant modern weapons like M4, AKM or L96 to me

[arctic grove]

Exactly

How the hell do you screw up the laser sight and still have it broken after 10 months

[solar tinsel]

It's an interesting time to be a Battlefield fan. 2042 is at least more or less fun and enjoyable now, but it truly signals the end of an era. Hell, Gustavsson's departure alone signals that

[mental delta]

The real problem I have with specialists is they don't instigate templay at all for some of them, I really want classes back but I am not against some specialization gadgets like Angel's or Falck's ones

[solar tinsel]

So, it's a new era now under Zampella/Coutaz. Zampella has an amazing resume under his belt, so it will be interesting to see if and how he can improve Battlefield

[arctic grove]

I want them to make a ltm where you can play as AI skins

With classes

[mental delta]

Major error they did to me was to think they had to follow recent trends and do it like COD or Apex with specialists and lot of cosmetics, BF is BF and if they want to make a great game they have to make it look like a true BF game to me

[solar tinsel]

Right, and the problem is even if they followed a trend, it could have been pulled off if fully realized, thought out, playtested, etc. and it wasnt. SO much so that they had to pivot at the last minute, the wreckage was the resulting game

[arctic grove]

Battlefield Moment

[solar tinsel]

No solid vision from the beginning,

[celest sinew]

Tis why I love playing the game

[obsidian elk]

Is there any upside to using the SVK over the DM7?

[solar tinsel]

They didn't even do a good job of monetizing cosmetics, attachments.

[arctic grove]

Imagine scraping a 20 year old Battlefield standard also known as "classes" to follow trends

Wtf is this mindset

[mental delta]

A lot of people have been asking for that since launch but they really want us to play specialists, would be a shame for them if they had to recognize specialists were a bad idea and letting you play without specialists is equivalent to doing that

[solar tinsel]

Because for that market to work, they need to have LOTS of things to buy... and there's NO weapons!

[next onyx]

I don't think anyone knows what went on behind the doors for dice.

[tepid agate]

@lucid goblet you still popping up on my twitter although I hardly play this game anymore. I once got a double headshot snipper kills through smoke. Nice tripple kill.

[obsidian elk]

Yeah because why innovate? Do the same thing for 20 years and don't try to push the envelope as designers. That's a good idea, huh?

[arctic grove]

They're trying to make us cope.

[next onyx]

What they were told to do, What their mindset is, etc.

[mental delta]

Yeah they just thought they could copy paste specialists trend on other FPS games but it seems like they didn't even figure out that gameplay was negatively impacted by specialists before launch

[solar tinsel]

For sure, but I can speculate it came down to lack of continuity in the pipelines between the fibers of EA and DICE

[mental delta]

Cope ?

[next onyx]

For sure Sync.

[arctic grove]

Their Major Error was being money hungry greedy bastards thinking the battlefield community was like the cod fanbase that would eat any shit up that the company would feed us.

[next onyx]

EA wanted this game out, They know people will buy an unfinished product.

[arctic grove]

It's called a core Battlefield feature. The whole franchise was built on that, they could literally innovative in any other way except fucking up the structure of the game

[next onyx]

They get more money off micro DLC than they do off the actual game itself.

[gloomy wyvern]

Not to mention that this is in the agreement

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/doggo-dog-thx-thank-u-thank-you-gif-19863377

[solar tinsel]

The silly thing is I could think of a greedy, money hungry version of Battlefield that actually was fun and kept players in. Again, keep classes, and monetize the fuck out of player customization

[arctic grove]

Exactly: Money is the motivation behind these decisions

[mental delta]

I said that months ago but most of people weren't agreeing with me at all, glad to see I am not the only one thinking that

[tepid agate]

I gave up arguing about it and stopped playing lol

[arctic grove]

Accept the fact that we'll not get the AI skins and classes without specialists

[obsidian elk]

Core Battlefield features are large maps with lots of dynamic elements and ranges of engagement in a team based environment. "The character you're playing as" has nothing to do with the Core Battlefield Experience, you're just bringing that topic up because you subjectively think Classes were core. They're not. Your subjectivity is blinding you

[orchid root]

Is there any xp portal servers on rn

[late bloom]

stop distrubing me with notification

[next onyx]

Classes are the core of how these games functions.

[late bloom]

And stop arguing

[gloomy wyvern]

Hello

[fiery dawn]

Yeah I’m at that point now too lol

[late bloom]

Hello

[solar tinsel]

you can mute channels/servers

[gloomy wyvern]

Humans argue

[late bloom]

Yes don that

[arctic grove]

💯 since 1942

[next onyx]

Yeah we've all learned to move on. People still feel the sting of launch.

[solar tinsel]

👍

[late bloom]

lol

[tepid agate]

I think I got to S60 something but probably never make 100 now

[late bloom]

wow battlefield has a lot of fans

[mental delta]

Ha yes I get it, and yeah now it's over gameplay will never majorly change and that's why I don't have any hopes for this game to really get better, I just hardly hope they will not commit same errors in the next game

[gloomy wyvern]

Launch was better than this...

[obsidian elk]

Does the SVK have any actual advantages over the DM7? I feel way better using the DM7 over the SVK

[next onyx]

Launch was awful.

[solar tinsel]

Despite the most recent game, it is a long-standing and generally well-respected franchise in FPS

[late bloom]

yes but 4 is better

[cobalt dove]

Idk what to focus on, the bsv or the dxr

[solar tinsel]

The franchise still has value

[fiery dawn]

Yeah… I’ve jumped back on the Destiny train again and when I want something pvp I play Shatterline

[next onyx]

I don't care that bf4's was worse. Launch for this was dreadful.

[gloomy wyvern]

At least weapons were more realistic than them trying to force ARs on us

[late bloom]

Funny it is the best

[next onyx]

What?

Trying to force AR what?

[solar tinsel]

I find both for different reasons. BF4's launch was worse for servers/connections. 2042 for gameplay/content/maps

[arctic grove]

The visual recoil is annoying

On svk

[late bloom]

battlefield 4 is better than 2042

[cobalt dove]

Is there a reason to use the sws when you have the bsv and dxr?

[next onyx]

Nvm the technical aspect of this game's launch.

[gloomy wyvern]

They have been trying to copy CoD and force players to use ARs

[solar tinsel]

I think everybody here would agree haha

[next onyx]

SWS is a bit of a better middle ground.

[late bloom]

lol

[arctic grove]

But ARs are cool

[mental delta]

Battlefield has also always been about teamplay and this game doesn't really have it to me, it's mostly due to the fact a lot of specialists don't instigate teamplay at all because they are made to be individual ways to play

[next onyx]

You're still making no sense because assault rifles have never been forced. They are very good yes, But so are submachine guns and LMG's.

[gloomy wyvern]

And not meant to dom the cqc feild

[tepid agate]

I mix a little bfV but just weekly missons. I saw recently on my twitter some leader working at the company admits the team strayed too far away from"battlefield" with the new ideas. I stopped arguing now anyways just moving on. Literally came back to congrats Carpo on a nice kill because he popped up randomly on my twitter again 😆

[solar tinsel]

They still don't have a repair specialist, an really won't until late S3 class rework (bc all Enginers will have the repair tool)

[late bloom]

Good day all gameloft update battlefield 4

[gloomy wyvern]

Meet angel

[next onyx]

I've just been watching TV like always.

[late bloom]

it is better

[arctic grove]

Everything in this game repairs itself already

[solar tinsel]

nah he's no repair specialist haha

[next onyx]

Repair tool kinda helps.

[fiery dawn]

Yeah I saw that too. I’m glad they acknowledged that out loud. Gives me a little bit of hope for the next BF entry. So until then, we play other things I guess lol

[obsidian elk]

Personally I prefer teamplay in BF2042 as the "optional, yet also optimal" way to win, as opposed to the "absolutely required" from the older games.

It makes the game more casual, more approachable, and more rewarding for those who actually put in the effort to work together.

It's better

[solar tinsel]

Yeah but not to the same extent of having an engineer

[next onyx]

It really does help even if vehicles can repair themselves in bursts.

[mental delta]

Yeah for example and that's what makes me upset so hard, specialists gadgets are just meant to be individual while they could have built them around teamplay like Falck's pistol for example

[gloomy wyvern]

But he's God compared to this new specialist

[next onyx]

Falck is a better medic than Angel.

[tepid agate]

You got that right 🍻

[solar tinsel]

I do think his ability is more useful, but Crawford is nice for point defense - good in certain situations

[next onyx]

Crawford is an engineer support mix.

[gloomy wyvern]

But she can't gib ammo so....

[solar tinsel]

Falck and Angel are more offensive support, so a defense support makes sense too

[next onyx]

Ammo crate.

[hexed mango]

don’t hate craw like that

[next onyx]

Angel cannot resupply gadget ammo outside of his loadout crates which are already finnicky.

[fiery dawn]

[mental delta]

I prefered BF4's kind of teamplay, like you really needed to play with your mates and help if you wanted to win the game, gameplay seems more individualistic in BF2042 to me

[next onyx]

Run an ammo box on falck and you're doing Angel's job but better.

[solar tinsel]

I like Crawford. With a well placed turret, you can really fend people off and kill careless players. Or soften up players for teammates (sorry wrong reply)

[gloomy wyvern]

Angel: revive @ 1/2 + ammo

Falck: revive @ full + no other

[solar tinsel]

But like I said, he's very defensive minded

[gloomy wyvern]

His spread is wider than an elephant...& It overheats after 2s

[next onyx]

Just throw down ammo crate and your worries will be fixed.

[fiery dawn]

poor Top G getting dissed on for no reason

[hexed mango]

skill issue

[next onyx]

Ammo is relatively easy to come by anyways.

[solar tinsel]

I just wish Craw's turret health was a bit higher. He's easy enough to snipe out anyway, so might as well give the turret some meat

[gloomy wyvern]

EA issue

[fiery dawn]

Not to mention you can carry three different mag/ammo types and just switch to your others when you run out of one

I think that’s probably what you meant though

[next onyx]

To a degree. I mean with Scavenging.

[arctic grove]

Crawford mfs when I force them to play on ps4 and xbox one (the minigin heats up 50% faster)

[fiery dawn]

True

[next onyx]

But yeah switching your ammo types helps too.

[gloomy wyvern]

It's bs

[gloomy wyvern]

Not in combat

[arctic grove]

Wdym bs

[next onyx]

I do wish that instead of each mag type having their own ammo pool.

[gloomy wyvern]

The turret is bs

[arctic grove]

Yea

[next onyx]

It's extremely easy to empty your mag, mid reload put a new mag of a different type in.

it's really easy.

[fiery dawn]

Agreed

[next onyx]

Again. If ammo types shared a collective pool instead of being individually owning their own numbers that'd be nice.

You can carry 200 / 250 rounds if you fill up all your slots with standard ammo on the AK.

[gloomy wyvern]

If shotguns were a 1shot @ 20m or less that'd be nice

[next onyx]

Or 200 rounds of heavy ammo in your SCAR with Drum and Mag in it.

Learn to aim then.

[gloomy wyvern]

We've already gone over this....

[fiery dawn]

They’d be way overpowered

12m already has no issues at that range tbh

[next onyx]

Yeah we have. It's not all too difficult. Just abuse people with the saiga anyways.

[fiery dawn]

Especially with slugs being broken

[gloomy wyvern]

They'd represent true cqc -_-

[fiery dawn]

12m is already extremely strong in cqc

[next onyx]

They should increase the hipfire spread on the 880 and make it a proper shotgun, Not a sniper shotgun.

[fiery dawn]

and you’ve got smgs as an option for cqc as well

[next onyx]

And it should only be a sniper shotgun with slugs.

[gloomy wyvern]

A sfar is 2 shots @ 10m

12m is 3 -_-

[next onyx]

The SCAR kills you in two shots if in the head.

[fiery dawn]

if you land both headshots lol

[next onyx]

Normally it's a 4HK.

Yo Rebel have you tried out the PBX?

[fiery dawn]

Yes, it’s my favorite SMG

I love it stylistically as well. Big fan of the Striker 45

[gloomy wyvern]

That is my main when I keep getting killed be ARs

[next onyx]

People with the vector are funny.

SCAR H is fun for sniping people.

[tough sonnet]

Wait they added the BF4 medic helmet for Dozer 😩

[fiery dawn]

mmm nice

[next onyx]

And then if you just want to push use the PBX.

It's not much of a clip.

I just found the end funny.

And the predicament I was in.

"Oh no bad timing"

[fiery dawn]

PBX feels a little better at slightly longer ranges than the other smgs as well that’s the main reason I prefer it

[next onyx]

I just like how quickly it kills at close range.

It's always been a sleeper.

But now people have recognised hey it's a good gun.

Just fun abusing people who use the vector with it.

[gloomy wyvern]

Imo the K30 should beat the PBX....

[fiery dawn]

I agree. I’ve been running around inside the ship with the AM40 like it’s an smg doing similar things. With wrapped suppressor and subsonics it’s a 0 recoil shred machine up close

[next onyx]

Subsonic reloads super fast.

It's like an M5 but it's also frankly a bit shit.

[fiery dawn]

Yeah it’s great

The reload speed that is

[next onyx]

Yeah it has that going for it.

I'm not sure what would make it better but not overpowering.

[fiery dawn]

When I’m outside I usually have the drums equipped but the reload speed is slow so inside the ship running around like a maniac the subsonics are nice lol

Subsonics feel fine to me inside because it’s all super close range

I immediately feel the difference if I step outside and need to shoot someone further away though

And overall the AM40 still sucks real bad at medium-longer ranges

It would help if they fixed the headshot multiplier

[next onyx]

I run HP extended.

With the tac comp.

I wouldn't mind it if HP extended had a bit better range to incentivise the use of it.

It's a 5HK 800 RPM gun you should do better than that.

[fiery dawn]

Yeah I like the HP ammo for outside at longer range. I actually think all the gun is really missing is a long barrel option tbh

[next onyx]

Would rather a BF4 heavy barrel.

That increases velocity, vertical recoil and accuracy.

[fiery dawn]

Just something to increase the effective range a bit

👍

[next onyx]

Infact I think the portal heavy barrel is the pre buff heavy barrel.

[eternal turtle]

is this the place where i can ask some adice

advice*

[fiery dawn]

Sure but no guarantees we’ll have the right answers for you haha

Ask away though

[eternal turtle]

im seriously considering buying this game but i was wondering is it in any better state than launch

im on ps5 btw

[next onyx]

I swear it increased the velocity.

The game is in a better state than it was from launch.

There are a bunch of issues still present but it's mostly playable.

[fiery dawn]

Definitely a better state than launch, but you’ll receive mixed opinions about whether it’s worth buying at full price. I personally am still disappointed in the quality of this BF entry overall so I’d say wait for a sale

Still fun to play though

Tbh there’s not a lot of good options in the FPS world right now so it has that going for it lol

[eternal turtle]

it seem like it truly but i was wondering is it still worth full price

[fiery dawn]

In my opinion, nah

[hexed mango]

yeah if you’re on the edge just wait for a sale

[fiery dawn]

What is full price anyway? Still 60 USD?

[eternal turtle]

70

[fiery dawn]

Good grief

[eternal turtle]

im next gen

[hexed mango]

[fiery dawn]

Yeah I’d wait for a sale for sure

[eternal turtle]

i was waiting to get 2k on sale too lol

[fiery dawn]

Yeah I’m on PC I can’t even remember how much I paid

[tacit sphinx]

i mean... it often does if you actually hit your shots, which the enemies in that clip quite clearly didnt lmao

using a specific gun isn't an instant win button lol, stats don't mean anything if you can't aim

[next onyx]

I will say that before, The vector was an instant win gun.

Now it isn't so much.

Wouldn't mind it if the vector was powerful and you know... They increased the recoil so it doesn't beam from a range.

[obsidian elk]

Does anyone play Hazard Zone?

Is it good?

Has Dice said anything about Year 2?

[next onyx]

We're not sure.

[still vault]

-Yes
-Some people love it, some people dont
-No announcement so far

[next onyx]

It's left up to speculation weather or not this will be scrapped.

[still vault]

You can say that about every other unannounced season for any other Battlepass game too though

[cobalt dove]

I’m not sure wether to focus on playing with the bsv or dxr

[arctic grove]

Play with m5a3

[still vault]

Why focus? Just play them all, get some variety in there

[arctic grove]

God m5 with the extended barrel sounds beefy

[obsidian elk]

Honestly I don't mind if they don't do year two and just skip straight to the next BF game. Because as much as I love 2042, I just love Battlefield in general...so either way it's a win-win for me

[arctic grove]

How about they supprot the game till the next bf drops

And a modern game shouldn't take 2 years to develop

[obsidian elk]

Has anyone tried AK24 with High Power Long Barrel? It's pretty satisfying. Feels strong at long range while still having fair usability up close

[hexed mango]

coughs in ea

[obsidian elk]

It fires slow enough that you might die up close when the opponent is one hit left

[arctic grove]

Very very slow rof

[obsidian elk]

but it's worth it imo

[still vault]

lul what

at least 2

[arctic grove]

2 years is not enough

[obsidian elk]

Games shouldn't actually take less than three in my opinion

[still vault]

that is not what it sounded like you said 😄

[obsidian elk]

Three should be the minimum

If a game is four years or longer in development then it should be $70 and be fully featured

[hallow sierra]

how much was cyberpunk again

[obsidian elk]

I'm actually part of the group that sees the advent of $70 games as a good thing

It depends on how much you get for the $70 though

[still vault]

How long games take is kinda besides the point. If the game is amazing they can spend 1 week or 8 years for all the consumers should care. (as long as they treat the devs properly ofc.)

[mossy badge]

I think 30$

[obsidian elk]

What I expect from $70 games is to basically match or exceed Red Dead Redemption 2 in terms of pure quality and enjoyment

[still vault]

That is not how it works. Movie tickets also cost the same but the movies don't need to all be masterpieces. It's art, expectations like that will get you nowhere.

[hallow sierra]

wow didnt know it was $30

[remote kiln]

it was $60 lol

[obsidian elk]

There's the argument of "art", and then there's the objective fact of quality

It also depends on the person on how they want to spend their money, be it on artistry or quality of enjoyment

For example, Prey is an amazing game artistically

[remote kiln]

sorry bro you're getting your hopes into heaven if you're expecting red dead redemption 2

[obsidian elk]

and it's highly enjoyable too

and it's nowhere near $70

[mossy badge]

It's on sale deco

[remote kiln]

that game was financed by microtransactions from 2 monolith titans of multiplayer

its a $100 quality game, not $70

[still vault]

it was a full price game at release

[obsidian elk]

Any triple A studio can make a game that good

They all have the resources

[remote kiln]

yeah you dont know what you're talking about sorry

[remote kiln]

ah gotcha

[obsidian elk]

I also feel like approaching games with the mindset of "I don't know what I'll get, I'm just going to take it as a piece of art" is, while a totally valid approach, not exactly the most frugal one

And I was arguing on the concept of frugality

On that basis my point stands that a $70 game should be RDR2-level

When we're talking about worth on an objective level

If you take the artistry argument, then subjective and personal values start to factor in

and those cannot be argued

[remote kiln]

your expectations are entirely flawed, RDR2 was financed on billions of sales of a multiplayer game that has been out for a decade, and rockstar are a studio, not even DICE have anywhere near the resources at their disposable as rockstar north lol

[obsidian elk]

because everyone is entitled to their opinion

[obsidian elk]

As I said earlier, any AAA studio can make a game as good as RDR2. You're right that they had the money to add an absolutely insane number of details to the game, but you don't need horse balls to make an insanely good game that is worth almost a hundred dollars disregarding special editions.

[remote kiln]

what? of course you do, why do you think it's $70 and not $100?

[obsidian elk]

We're getting into personal opinion territory

IMO you don't need such minutia to have a good game

[keen loom]

[obsidian elk]

It may validate the price in a way, because of the added detail

[remote kiln]

no we're just getting into having unrealistic expectations with the title of "triple A"

not every game studio is a multi billion behemoth like rockstar

[obsidian elk]

I didn't say they were.

But the ones on their level absolutely can do it.

-wooshes through the air stealthily-

[remote kiln]

like who lol

[obsidian elk]

Well to call back on one of my earlier examples

[remote kiln]

no which studios have the same resources as rockstar north

[obsidian elk]

Prey with Arkane Studios.

Arkane, despite having only a fraction of Rockstar's budget, made a game chock-full of details just like RDR2

[buoyant coyote]

whats the best m5 attatchments

[obsidian elk]

I'm not talking about exact resources

I'm talking about capability

Resources act as a force multiplier

to capability

Arkane stuidos, medium resources very high capability = Prey

[remote kiln]

prey? that game had save file corruption bugs the week after it launched

[obsidian elk]

Rockstar, high resources high capability = RDR2

[remote kiln]

it was a total ridden mess for literally a month

uncompletable missions things not rendering properly

[obsidian elk]

I don't see your point. RDR2 still has issues to this day

Sometimes I get on and my pistol is replaced to the default Volcanic

and I have to manually switch it back

All games have bugs, my guy

[mossy badge]

What do you think about elden ring ?

[remote kiln]

the point is RDR2 doesn't have anywhere, near, those levels of issues whatsoever

so I ask you, again

what studio, has the same resources, as rockstar north

[obsidian elk]

RDR2 absolutely did, and still does

I won't answer the question again because you aren't listening

[remote kiln]

and it's a pretty straightforward forward question because the answer is, no game studio has the same level lol

and you know that

[remote kiln]

elden ring bad game needs lower skill floor

[buoyant coyote]

elden ring good game we just need to get better

[mossy badge]

people already calling it best game and goty

[remote kiln]

it's a good game but goty ehh idk

[mossy badge]

Which game do you think deserves goty ?

this year I mean

[obsidian elk]

BF2042 obviously

[remote kiln]

it's too early to tell, but I think mw2 will probably be in the running

based on what's been shown anyways

[warped pulsar]

2042 is killing the Halo infinite player count, weird, I would think F2P games would have more

[calm bison]

BUFF THE F35

Also MW2 looks eh

[mossy badge]

Imo its goty if there was a worst game of 2022 category

[remote kiln]

DL2 has better quality than elden ring I'd argue tbh most of the fun content were post-launch additions

[buoyant coyote]

is there a way to mamke underbarrel shotgun shoot faster

[remote kiln]

no it's limited

[buoyant coyote]

it shoots so slow bru

bf4 shot s ofast

[topaz field]

Today i learned what SFAR means = Small-Frame Autoloading Rifle

[mossy badge]

Soo MIIW and DL2 hmmmm

[arctic grove]

Nah it means stupid fucking assault rifle

[topaz field]

wow...

man's woke up angry lmao

[arctic grove]

Swear words = angry

[remote kiln]

elden ring is a good game, but it's a game that doesn't appeal to everybody, and goty doesn't fit those types of categories

[arctic grove]

Nice thinking

[remote kiln]

as much as I appreciate the lore and universe thats built I'm also not oblivious to the fact that 30% of players quit at the beginning

[keen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/choujeki-eating-popcorn-gif-14739088

[mossy badge]

Have you tried it too 😳

[remote kiln]

I've completed it

[mossy badge]

wowwww 😎

[silk surge]

I'm actually afraid to use EBLC-RAM because I might get falsely banned. I've had so many people DMing me accusing of cheating bc they don't know how APS works.

[remote kiln]

from software aren't immune from criticism for elden ring I don't agree with many of their decisions to axe content just to turn them into a dlc

as much as the cult following has around it anyways

the blood ending is the clearest example

[mossy badge]

what's the pros and cons ?

[remote kiln]

wdym

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🤔

[buoyant coyote]

whys this cvhat never about 2042

[hexed mango]

i used it…. i’m not banned

[mossy badge]

I mean what is good and bad about er

[remote kiln]

it's bad in that it's a lazy way to bring about expansion content

[rich flicker]

I think the auto shotgun needs a good Ole nerf outta existence lol

[remote kiln]

there are a litany of things in the game that got removed that were clearly meant to be in the base game, mohg for example has an entire questline where the age of blood comes around

but it got axed and the fact it's half a story then just has 0 ending means they're going to turn it into a dlc

it's a pre emptive and to be quite frank lazy motivation to charging folk for content on what should be, a new story

[buoyant coyote]

whahst beter k30 or am40

[mossy badge]

🤔 what about gameplay

Story

Graphics

[remote kiln]

you can fight mohg

[mossy badge]

What is mohg

[remote kiln]

and you shouldn't be able to, because it leads to nowhere

[proud gorge]

@hexed mango @arctic grove

Gaming today?

[buoyant coyote]

whahst beter k30 or am40

[remote kiln]

you don't come across him in the main questline

[tame cobalt]

Mp9 with extended or drum mag

[remote kiln]

he's referenced in the lore but to actually fight him you need to do some story choices

but the tldr is you fight him, and that's it

[mossy badge]

it will be paid dlc right

[remote kiln]

99% yes

the age of blood is referenced multiple times in the game files

[mossy badge]

because I think old dark souls game you pay for dlc

Still deco how much will you give it out of 10

[remote kiln]

8/8.5 probably

[mossy badge]

that's nice 🙂

[keen loom]

[arctic grove]

Should I buy the game

[remote kiln]

2042?

[arctic grove]

Ya

[remote kiln]

it's good so I don't see why not, look at some reviews of season 2 at least

[arctic grove]

Yeah at night. Im leaving home right now

[proud gorge]

no

you take with you

[topaz field]

🤣

[keen loom]

[arctic grove]

Fumizuki is low key my bff

[proud gorge]

[sharp marten]

How long has zanpella been in charge of bf?

2042 that is

[arctic grove]

Since December or January

[sharp marten]

You see what he said?

[arctic grove]

Nope

what he say

[sharp marten]

“I think they strayed away to what battlefield really is” they tried a couple of things that were to ambitious”

“It’s not inherently a bad idea," he continued. "The way they were set up and the way they executed just didn’t allow them to find the best thing possible.”

As part of this Battlefield connected universe, EA announced an all new studio, which will be undertaking the task of creating a new campaign. Ridgeline Games, as it's called, will be headed up by Halo co-creator Marcus Lehto. Considering he created one of the most recognisable characters in video games, and some of the initial lore, Lehto could be just what EA needs to turn the tide.

"It is a great honor to have the opportunity to collaborate with DICE and Ripple Effect and lead the charge on expanding the narrative, storytelling, and character development opportunities in the Battlefield series," said Lehto. It's obviously going to be a while before we see even a hint of this new campaign, but it will be the start of this new Battlefield universe.

[sullen kraken]

Anybody having persistent data error ????

[arctic grove]

I only worry that Vince will turn the next bf game into Titan Fall.

Tho i do like Titanfall

[sharp marten]

Titanfall do be slappin

[arctic grove]

Yeah but i just want an updated bf3/4 game

[radiant prism]

People say that all the time but I don’t think many of them actually know what that specifically entails

Not to rip on you personally but I’ve heard that so many times and I still don’t know what it means

[sharp marten]

Don’t get me wrong I like 2042 but I want the next bf to be better

[radiant prism]

Agreed

I think we all do

[daring mural]

Bf2042 had much potential. And still has. If dice won't fuck it up from now on it can pretty good game, but not as good as previous one's

[chrome rose]

oh my god

why is the fucking super hind so fucking op

[daring mural]

It has lot of firepower

[chrome rose]

it's fucking insane

[daring mural]

Ig

[radiant prism]

I mean it is a gunship

[chrome rose]

it just chases attack choppers down

[sharp marten]

I mean having Marcus lehto making the campaign that might be a huge W

[chrome rose]

no

it's not a gunship

[daring mural]

Same as Condor

[chrome rose]

it's a transport vehicle

no

condor has way less health

[sharp marten]

It’s a gun ship

[radiant prism]

Well it is a gunship

[daring mural]

Yeah it's a gunship

[radiant prism]

It’s called a transport but functionally it’s a gunship

[chrome rose]

it's fucking op

[radiant prism]

It’s really not

[chrome rose]

most people cant use the condor appropriately

yes it is

[radiant prism]

A rao and a couple AA launchers and it’s fucked

[chrome rose]

it destroys air vehicles

[radiant prism]

Just like any other helo

[chrome rose]

no

it's not

it can take 6 rockets

[wide shore]

Compared to how it was, it’s nothing.

[radiant prism]

Ok great so does the fighter

[daring mural]

If the pilot good than it's op

When I'm getting into it i get smoked instantly

[radiant prism]

It’s almost like skillful people do well with vehicles

[daring mural]

So you just need to have good players

Everything in hands of good players will be OP

[chrome rose]

anyone that's flown helicopters competently will be able to get so many kills and points

[radiant prism]

If it was OP, anyone could just hop in and instantly demolish a map on their first try

Man it’s almost like the game rewards skill and teamwork or something

[chrome rose]

LMAOOOO

"game rewards skill and teamwork"

[radiant prism]

It’s almost like the hind and condor rely entirely on gunners and pilots working together

[chrome rose]

game just got squad chat, no proximity chat, doesn't allow squad leaders or squad leaders to communicate together

but yea

we'll go with that

[radiant prism]

You don’t need to physically be able to talk to someone to work together, that can be done non verbally and is the very reason the hind is so powerful sometimes

[chrome rose]

really rewarding to have a "transport" vehicle that can annihilate any air vehicle, while also taking 6 rockets

[radiant prism]

Shit pilot? You’ll be shot down in no time. Shit gunners? Might as well be unarmed. You need a good mix of both

[daring mural]

If the pilot and gunners aren't complete idiots than they can work together without even communicating

[cobalt dove]

I HATE THE STUPID ATTACHMENT BUG.

[chrome rose]

so anyone with both their hands in tact

[cobalt dove]

[chrome rose]

can basically dominate the skys

[mystic tapir]

whats the best sniper to use?

[chrome rose]

with minimal counterplay

amazing

[wide shore]

Depends on the range you’re sniping from.

[daring mural]

No they can't

[sharp marten]

Dudes about burst a blood vessel over the super hind

[mystic tapir]

mid range, infantry

[chrome rose]

because it's so annoying to be flying an ATTACK vehicle

and this "transport" vehicle

[daring mural]

I said i tried to fly it and i failed miserably

[radiant prism]

Also if it was weak health wise, people would see it as a free multi kill and not the actual threat it’s supposed to be

[chrome rose]

comes flying from above and just 2 shots you

it's insane

[wide shore]

Probably the NTW then. As it is a 1 shot kill within 100 meters.

[chrome rose]

bf4 is balanced good. the transport choppers are so freaking weak

[sharp marten]

It does not 2 shot you lmao

[tacit sphinx]

doesn't matter a ton tbh

[chrome rose]

100% does

the 50mm

[daring mural]

The other team can also WORK TOGETHER to shoot it down with AA missiles

[chrome rose]

2 shots on an attack helicopter and it's basically done ofr

it's like getting with 2 missiles

[radiant prism]

If you’re getting shot down by that slow ass 50mm, that’s on you LMAO

[tacit sphinx]

if you're dying to the 50mm in air to air youre doing something wrong lmfao

[wide shore]

Slow bolt speed and bullet travel time tho.

[radiant prism]

That thing is damn near useless nowadays

[tacit sphinx]

that's just hovering and letting it shoot you

[chrome rose]

either it needs to lose the 50mm, or it needs to lose half its health

[daring mural]

Imagine getting called by 50mm

[radiant prism]

Damn imagine calling for ANOTHER 50mm nerf

[chrome rose]

some of yall obivously never flown before so lmao

[daring mural]

Slowest projectile in history

[chrome rose]

you'[re so dumb and obvi never flown b4

lmao

maps are huge

[tacit sphinx]

sure

[daring mural]

Yet you're the one getting mad at helicopter

Grow up

[chrome rose]

you'll be hovering for one second and then boom

because it's op? I cant get mad at something?

O I forgot

[radiant prism]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-homer-stupid-gif-5030192

[chrome rose]

this is where the infantry plebs come to play their little violin

[daring mural]

Fr

[mystic tapir]

i feel like air units suck, never really have a problem with them.

[radiant prism]

They’re only a problem if people aren’t actively countering them

[chrome rose]

not true

[tacit sphinx]

i think i can count on one hand how many times ive been killed with the 50mm in air to air and most of those i wasnt in control of the aircraft lol

[chrome rose]

like you said, a good pilot will just alternate sides of the map

the new map for example

that huge ship is perfect for just hiding behind

[tacit sphinx]

ok

[chrome rose]

absolutely fucks everyone trying to shoot a rocket at it, because you can't run to the other side faster than he can get health + flares

it doesn't help it takes literally like 6 rockets to bring it down

[tacit sphinx]

"guys people can fly helicopters and use cover to their advantage "

[wide shore]

Sounds like you should just pilot the super hind.

[chrome rose]

lmao someone literally said that

so idk who you're quoting clown

[daring mural]

From all games i played the only time when helicopters were harassing team was only when nobody was shooting or countering them

[chrome rose]

it shouldn't take 6 rockets to bring down a helicopter

period

keep the 50mm

[radiant prism]

People need to realize that making a vehicle fall back is functionally the same as shooting it down

[chrome rose]

but it shouldn't be able to slaughter attack vehicles

lmao

not when you have 1-2 people repairign you

[daring mural]

It has only 50mm which is slow af and 2 mini guns

[tacit sphinx]

it can't, unless the enemy pilot sucks

[chrome rose]

do you think bro]

[radiant prism]

A competent attack vehicle pilot won’t let themselves get shot down by a transport

[tacit sphinx]

so

[chrome rose]

youre joking

there is no way to 1v1

[daring mural]

So it need to have more hp to survive

[chrome rose]

a super hind

with an attack vehiocle

it is literally impossible

[tacit sphinx]

lmao

[daring mural]

Bruh

[chrome rose]

unless the gunners are high af

the super hind*

the condor yes

[daring mural]

It's not a vechcile you 1vs1

[chrome rose]

the condor is balanced af

[daring mural]

It's like trying to 1vs1 a tank

[radiant prism]

Hmmmmmmm man it’s almost like I mentioned that earlier or something

[chrome rose]

okay, the gunners have to be like literally borderline chimpanzess

like

iqs in the double digits to not hit an attack helicopter

[radiant prism]

That’s more common than you give it credit for

[tacit sphinx]

mfw the transport helos are bulky, slow targets with limited manoeuvrability and a ton of blind space that a chimpanzee could take advantage of instead of waiting to get shot by the 50mm

[chrome rose]

yeah i get it

theres a lot of console players

500 ft from the screen

but idk everytime i encounter one

I just get absolutely fucked in the ass

[tacit sphinx]

and noone else has that issue 🤔 i wonder what that might say

[chrome rose]

I'm not a bad pilot either, per se. I have the mastery skin on hokum, apache, little bird

you mean

[chrome rose]

you mean the small sliver of community that stuck around and still plays using the vehicles doesn't come in here and complain?

[tacit sphinx]

what

[chrome rose]

or rather you don't hear their opinion?

what?

are you dumb?

it was in english bro

read it