and if its too annoying then id get a 1080p one i guess
#technology
fallen harbor
fallen harbor
as for now id only get the gtx1650super then
weak girder
thx for the advice
fallen harbor
np bro
glossy plinth
or 1660ti.. ya kno
fallen harbor
are you trolling
glossy plinth
no
glossy plinth
isnt he gonna change it?
fallen harbor
no
glossy plinth
oh
weak girder
not regarding the bottleneck, 1660 ti overkill for 1080p but underpowered for 1440p
weak girder
not overkill
glossy plinth
then theres me gaming 1080p with a 5700xt
fallen harbor
1660ti is slightly overkill for 1080p indeed tbh. The only games that cant reach 60fps on a 1660ti are those that are shitly optimized that dont run well even on a 2080ti
weak girder
looking at you red dead redemption 2
fallen harbor
i have an rx590 and it's more than enough for 60fps and 1080p, and it's slower than a 1660ti
weak girder
Im not a big doom fan
weak girder
other than that my main games are apex, sea of thieves, rdr2 and minecraft
so I dont need the ost expensive hardware indeed
glossy plinth
maybe get expensive hardware so you'll get a competitive advantage on apex but ay
you do you
weak girder
60 fps is butter smooth for me
glossy plinth
yo ando, i dont think this seb guy experienced above 60hz
fallen harbor
i never experienced above 60hz either
weak girder
nah I didnt
weak girder
I have a friend who has a razer blade 15 but I never got to try it ;-;
green lintel
How I can buy compatible parts for my mother board?
fallen harbor
and your shit hardware is 200% more expensive here than where yo ulive
glossy plinth
no i want coke
fallen harbor
i can give you a damn trophy if you want
green lintel
Answer me guys. How?
glossy plinth
@green lintel Pcpartpicker .com
weak girder
yeah
green lintel
@glossy plinth Alright
weak girder
can I stay above 60 fps all the time in bg5 high settings with the 1650 super?
fallen harbor
yes
weak girder
what about ultra
weak girder
no point if I cant upgrade the gpu along with it
glossy plinth
save some money?
glossy plinth
ask parents for some help?
mild siren
I mean
No problem in saving up for a year or more
Just set a set amount of money that must never be used
fallen harbor
did you check on youtube?
weak girder
my parents dont see the point in gaming
fallen harbor
look for "i3 8100 gtx1650super battlefield 5"
glossy plinth
ryzen 5 3600 is better than i5-9600k
glossy plinth
pssst seb
weak girder
why do some tech youtubers seem like they get much more fps on the same gpu and cpu that I have
glossy plinth
1660ti
weak girder
lol
fallen harbor
why do some tech youtubers seem like they get much more fps on the same gpu and cpu that I have
probably because they have a better cpu
also depends on the ram
weak girder
I may be dumb but Im not stupid
fallen harbor
your cpu is decent, just not great
weak girder
it was budget 2 years ago
glossy plinth
ryzen 5 3600, 1660ti, bam were done here
weak girder
what gpu?
chrome skiff
what game?
prime jasper
bf5
weak girder
I can get 60fps on medium low settings
prime jasper
i think he on about
weak girder
with the 1050 ti
prime jasper
surprising
glossy plinth
Diabetus elitus
weak girder
surprising
@prime jasper nah
fallen harbor
what gpu?
@weak girder gtx1650
chrome skiff
prime jasper
on a 3700x with a 1650 super ucan get 90 fps on high
but i dont think ur gonna be getting a cpu like that
chrome skiff
if its battlefield the 1650 is very capable
fallen harbor
doubt it
why nobody watches the video?
weak girder
*super
prime jasper
who cares about ur vid ando
the super is quite a big setup to the 1650 base
actually
fallen harbor
who cares about empiric evidence am i right
prime jasper
i dont care
chrome skiff
welp i tried
glossy plinth
woah
fallen harbor
okay dumbass
glossy plinth
is he discriminating against profile pictures
prime jasper
yea
weak girder
is he discriminating against profile pictures
@glossy plinth if I can get my parents to buy part of the ryzen 5 3600x for christmas, maybe I could get a 1660 super
them get my borthers monitor
fallen harbor
or else thers no point in upgrading
@weak girder ngl the step from a 1050ti to a 1650super isn't gigantic. It is considerably better but not terribly better
weak girder
@weak girder ngl the step from a 1050ti to a 1650super isn't gigantic. It is considerably better but not terribly better
@fallen harbor yeah
fallen harbor
@glossy plinth if I can get my parents to buy part of the ryzen 5 3600x for christmas, maybe I could get a 1660 super
the regular 3600 is better for the price
prime jasper
unless the x model is very close to the base 3600
weak girder
1 gen isnt a huge step
prime jasper
then dont get the x
opaque saddle
i dont think it worth paying for the x
weak girder
the regular 3600 is better for the price
@fallen harbor good to know
prime jasper
in prices
glossy plinth
get the x cause its cooler
prime jasper
????
opaque saddle
if you want a better stock cooler tho
prime jasper
water is a big troll cant even lie
weak girder
get the x cause its cooler
@glossy plinth rolls of the tongue
prime jasper
the base cooler from the 3600 is f ine lol
chrome skiff
you should get a non x since they are normally cheaper and/or look at prices of the 2600/2600x They arent top of the line but still plenty for gaming
opaque saddle
if you reckon youre getting the 3rd party cooler than dont go for the x
weak girder
Im just gonna go r5 3600
chrome skiff
seb what cpu are you coming from?
weak girder
i3 8100
storm osprey
@storm osprey Why?
@molten bramble like 2 weeks before getting my 3080 i was getting huge random fps drops, since putting in 3080 ive lost fps in some games (warzone specifically)
prime jasper
it loses in a lot but when it wins it destroys
weak girder
5700xt is rly good
latent light
Assassins creed Valhalla doesnt run that good on Nvidia
prime jasper
dx 12 and newer titles usually are pre good with amd
storm osprey
so it seems like on average the 6800x and 3080 are neck and neck
latent light
6800XT comes out ahead
chrome skiff
well you paired a 3080 with a 4th gen cpu so that could be it. Also @weak girder yeah the 3600 for now then see how you feel about a gpu. It might make you happy just getting the cpu
chrome skiff
4000*
glossy plinth
and i get smooth gameplay when i use dx11
prime jasper
raytracing on the amd side is awful so if u want that try find a 3000
glossy plinth
but thats just from me tho
prime jasper
oh its 1440p
weak girder
Im happy with the i3 8100 its like I do rly demanding stuff with it except gaming
prime jasper
they're for both
storm osprey
imo if youre buying a 3080/6800xt for anything less than 1440p youre wasting money
prime jasper
i was referring to 4k
however
not 1440p
when i said theres big gains
on both sides
glossy plinth
I was actually planning to just use 3070 for 1080p
storm osprey
glossy plinth
lol
storm osprey
4k 3080 wins?
chrome skiff
@weak girder Im sure its a great cpu but just for gaming in battlefield or other cpu heavy games its gonna chug along. I was just offering an upgrade idea
prime jasper
thats an average
weak girder
y> @weak girder Im sure its a great cpu but just for gaming in battlefield or other cpu heavy games its gonna chug along. I was justs offering an upgrade idea
@chrome skiff yeah
storm osprey
bUt WhAt aBoUt vRaM LiMiTaTiOns?!
latent light
For some reason RX 6800 series is faster at lower resolutions
prime jasper
it is
weak girder
ngl why would someone wanna game in 4k
storm osprey
ngl why would someone wanna game in 4k
@weak girder i have a 4k tv in the front room that ill be playing casual games at 4k with...
glossy plinth
like example: Nyphon
chrome skiff
Starring at valhalla at 8k on my tv 😦
weak girder
@weak girder i have a 4k tv in the front room that ill be playing casual games at 4k with...
@storm osprey oh
Im talking about monitors
coarse nimbus
Nah that graph is faulty showing the 3080 winning
weak girder
like 27 inch 4k monitors
coarse nimbus
But correct when it loses by 4 fps
glossy plinth
27inch for 4k, isnt that bad
storm osprey
yea, imo 4k monitors for games unless not competitive gamers is weird
but, whatever, they do what they want
storm osprey
so really, the only real advantage to 6800x over 3080 is more vram which will be a peace of mind going into the future
fallen harbor
I could go rx 580
@weak girder amd has better performance on frostbite engines than nvidia, but the rx500 series consume a lot of power. Make sure to have a powerful enough PSU for a 580
weak girder
650 watt
fallen harbor
ah you are fine then
glossy plinth
id reccomend 1500watt psu
weak girder
lmao
fallen harbor
my rx590 makes bfv fly
chrome skiff
i.....i draw 800 watts full load....
coarse nimbus
Is the 6800x the $1k one
prime jasper
no
storm osprey
no
glossy plinth
zak be sayin facts
prime jasper
the 6900xt is
storm osprey
6900x is
glossy plinth
corsair do be makin best stuff
coarse nimbus
Oh right
storm osprey
zak and water not saying facts, corsair doesnt even make their psus
glossy plinth
if it says corsair then its corsair
prime jasper
no corsair design from ground up!
prime jasper
yea!
weak girder
next thing Im gonna stick some leds to my wall
coarse nimbus
6800 is $580? What's the xt
prime jasper
649
fallen harbor
corsair is good but it's not the best
prime jasper
i believe
weak girder
to imrpov> next thing Im gonna stick some leds to my wall
@weak girder to get 4x more fps
glossy plinth
@fallen harbor then whats the best
prime jasper
its $50 cheaper than whatever the 3080 is
glossy plinth
what could be better than corsair psus
fallen harbor
seasonic is the best
glossy plinth
eh, cant argue that
prime jasper
corsair make seasonic psu
storm osprey
seasonic is the best
@fallen harbor seasonic
storm osprey
corsair make seasonic psu
@prime jasper other way around, if youre trolling please dont do it while recommending people to spend their money
prime jasper
then next in line for best psu maker is gonna be msi
its quite obvious im trolling if a person listens then its their fault
corsairs shit
coarse nimbus
So for $50 less you get more vram but a little less performance? 
weak girder
mine iz EVGA
fallen harbor
id ban this person i was mod tbh lmao
chrome skiff
my friend can't overclock his gpu due to his corsair 850 watt transient reposnse is garbage its 150 mill seconds response
storm osprey
its obvious that youre trolling, its not easy for others
prime jasper
unfortunate
coarse nimbus
Lmao imagine asking for help and expecting to know when some shithead moron is trolling
prime jasper
🤣
coarse nimbus
You're no better
opaque saddle
Can you guys drop the convo thank you
glossy plinth
wdym
chrome skiff
good thing my seasonic psu has a response of 41 ms
glossy plinth
all you gotta know is that corsair is top tier for psus
chrome skiff
seasonic is made in house they don't buy parts from other vendors in a certain spec range/price. if you were measuring response of psu and bought 3 different corsair psu all the response times would be different
weak girder
I just know the corsair vs evga thing
chrome skiff
while seasonic makes their response time a reliability point when selling a psu
storm osprey
I just know the corsair vs evga thing
@weak girder neither make their own psus, and the good psus from those brands likely come from seasonic
chrome skiff
and makes their own parts all in house
fallen harbor
I know nothing about that
99% of people youll find talking about it are biased
prime jasper
wrong
weak girder
you know what guys, Ill just get an imac
sound like a great idea
glossy plinth
i tried to convince my parents to stop buying imacs and buy windows instead
never listens lol
chrome skiff
thats a tough spot to be in because they are probably just used to mac os not the pc being faster or better
glossy plinth
pain to see them buying $3000imac when they could get a better computer for lower price
storm osprey
so 6800(x) are pretty damn good, they dont destroy nvidia, but they are better bang for buck. (they were with 5000 series too though, so lets see how stability is)
glossy plinth
just buy an rtx card to flex
weak girder
I mean depends for what you wanna do
macOS is awesome
mut macs are not made for gaming
and are pricy
chrome skiff
yeah i built a hackintosh with a 3770x at 2-3 grand cheaper then their 28 core 6800 dollar pc
opaque saddle
coz 5k display is like 1900 bucks from here
glossy plinth
yeah but like my parents
spends thousands of dollars on imacs
just to only use google
literally nothing else
weak girder
thats dumb
chrome skiff
my friend was gonna buy it and i told him i can build something better and its paid off so far
opaque saddle
if older people wants a larger screen all in one computer then they are more likely aiming for imac
coz they have difficulties to look at the screen
especially from a smaller screen like laptops
storm osprey
just buy an lg 48" cx oled tv xD
chrome skiff
my parents use a white wall and a projector for movies lol
they have a smart tv but they use the pc for hulu netflix etc
glossy plinth
imacs are impossible to use and navigate
weak girder
and the retina display is gorgeous
glossy plinth
well for me atleast
opaque saddle
well its true but depends on what you wanna do with it
weak girder
I used my borther sold imac bedore getting my pc and I think macOS is much easier and better to use than windowd
opaque saddle
one of the reasons uni students went for macbook is because windows updates makes things worse
glossy plinth
i guess its just personal preference
chrome skiff
its pc personal computer so anything past school would be your preference
opaque saddle
i use macos coz it makes my life easier doing my uni work
storm osprey
i doubt most uni students even know about os updates, they pick mac for bragging right and think price means quality
opaque saddle
coz i know many of those who want simplicity. a windows update makes a lot of issues for them
glossy plinth
doesnt macbooks easily get hot tho
chrome skiff
laptops do not just mac
glossy plinth
alienware laptops dont
opaque saddle
it happened where i went to uni. pretty much it happened once every 2 weeks where a person got stuck on windows update loading screen
chrome skiff
i mean heat is still a thing regardless if the laptop has good cooling then it is moving the air out fast enough but the heat is still there
prime jasper
mac os is so much better than windows for anything other than gaming
storm osprey
unless youre buying a gaming laptop that focuses on thermals, yea, laptops get hot
prime jasper
thats why students buy them a lot
opaque saddle
for people who knows computer and coding, they opt for linux
glossy plinth
for gamers, they go for windows
chrome skiff
I have a dual boot for my linux servers when i need them
prime jasper
@glossy plinth of course alienware laptops dont get hot
revolutionary tech
from dell
opaque saddle
as far as i know IT students opt for either windows laptop or windows laptop with linux on it
opaque saddle
but students who are on the creative degree of the uni, tends to get macbook
i rarely see people not getting macbook in class. based on my personal experience coz i was doing a dual degree back then
glossy plinth
most of my friends are using gaming laptops for college class
opaque saddle
and of cause 1% of them use gaming laptop but they are heavy and thick
opaque saddle
but for me, a phone or an ipad will do most of my job in class, since i'm doing film at uni
chrome skiff
I was gonna say i used my samsung dex and a 8 inch screen that was like the size of a notebook and i did all my school on my phone
Wireless dropped it to my pc when i could and did everything that way
opaque saddle
depends on what course you are in. personally i use my phone to make notes, others use a cheap laptop to do their work
chrome skiff
phone was already paid for dex was 100 bucks and the screen was 50 bucks much cheaper then a whole new laptop for no benefit for me
opaque saddle
i would say, the tool that i need is easy access, pick up and go is whats important to my degree
chrome skiff
Well ofcourse it depends. If you do any live rendering a phone isnt gonna help. but saving auto desk/cad skits and pulling them up already rendered was a breeze i never did any live rendering in class
opaque saddle
a lot of students these days use their phones more than laptop
i do most of the video rendering on laptop. model rendering on desktop
chrome skiff
i dont use a laptop but same lol its all done on my workstation at home
opaque saddle
yeah depends on your course and the types of work youre doing
not every tools fits everyone
prime jasper
corsair should make an os
chrome skiff
I have power tripps so i like to just have all the power
I have some pretty cool 3d renders now and im 3d printing destiny 2 items and lathing some brass for medallions have that all done off my workstation atm
cutting some brass on a lathe might be better
wanton carbon
corsair should make an os
wtf
storm osprey
hes trolling
chrome skiff
Isnt corsair icue already like an os? I mean it does stuff it shouldnt it takes control of other devices and it doesnt shut down when you tell it? Ive had bad luck with icue
Im putting my 3080 on my 4.5ghz 2600k atm to feel real pain. I wanna know what pain is
storm osprey
real pain is 4790... non k =[
wanton carbon
1 more day until i can see if my computer can go back and me get ma DOLLAR DOLLAR
storm osprey
good luck
at some point i think i have to convince my fiance that i gotta upgrade again, i think my cpu is dying
wanton carbon
lol what
chrome skiff
how is your cpu dying?
fallen harbor
cpus dont be "dying" afaik, they either live or die instantly
chrome skiff
no degradation is a thing in all pc parts
Doesnt mean they just up and die
speaking of it my 2600k is at 4.5 at 1.325 volts when it was stable at 4.6 2 years ago. Things degrade
and its been overclocked since like 2011? so it wasnt overnight its been beat its whole life
fallen harbor
oic
opaque saddle
the only time where i found a malfunctioning cpu is when i got a surface pro 4
it can load in to desktop screen but did not response to any task
chrome skiff
I never had a cpu die on me from all my overclocking delidding lapping anything crazy ive done ive never killed a cpu. I bent amd pins and i fixed them the cpu runs rock solid. Cpus are super hard to kill. They can be if you just say screw it and blast the voltage or something but they are very very hard to straight out kill
Or dump water on it while its running you know pick your poison
opaque saddle
i got a refurbished laptop from microsoft but they sent me a faulty unit by accident 
chrome skiff
I had a friend ask me to look into his pc cause everything would say nosignal or not responding and it would occasionally boot into windows he had his gold triangle on a 1700x in the opposite corner and it was smashed in there. Still got into windows though what a champ
I never had a cpu that didnt freely fall out of the socket once the brace was lifted until that day
Bfv is running like crap per the usual. Cant even get 120 fps steady
I engine limited it to 140 fps to take some load off and laxed the cpu setting and its still chugging
bUt ItS pLaYaBlE i feel like im watching a slide show when explosions go off
You know what i wanna correct myself this cpu is 100% fine if you're a pilot. Flying in the place dropping bombs shooting and being shot at i was pinned 140 fps. Cpu is still good for pilots
glossy plinth
@chrome skiff DX12 or Vulkan
chrome skiff
I didnt know bfv had vulkan? Im in dx11 will try dx12 in a moment
glossy plinth
nah i dont think bfv has vulkan
chrome skiff
Wait im gonna change thread count to 3 and see if not maxing out the cpu helps
actually im gonna go from 3-8 and see
3 was....was not the right play im at like 50 fps stuttering
turbid verge
pretty much what I expected from the AMD
good numbers similar to the 3080 and 3090
when it comes to the ray tracing looks like the first gen ray tracing of nvidia
chrome skiff
dx 12 is worse in this scenario its constantly running like crap
But its playable i guess
storm osprey
yea i think i was pretty spot on with my assumptions for these amd cards
void belfry
:op=°°
/Lm
chrome skiff
bUt CaN iT rUn MiNeCrAfT?
just thought it was funny linus trested minecraft with ray tracing
broken vortex
lol
linus
what a fella at times
but its the all important question
if i cant run mc with ray tracing it is automatically bad
chrome skiff
even though they run marty mcflys reshade ray tracing way better then nvidia if it aint real ray tracing it isnt good enough lol
storm osprey
so amd won cpus, and just made gpus competitive
id personally buy a 6800xt over 3080 if i had a freesync monitor (assuming amd is stable), but anyone buying a 3080 isnt really missing out
unless they are playing at 1080p...
glossy cobalt
Is any of you using specialized card for recording? I can play BF 5 with all maxed out on 60fps+ stable, fullHD, but OBS is not catching up so final video have freeze parts although the game was smooth...
glossy cobalt
i have older ryzen, 6 core
fallen harbor
the gpu i mean
glossy cobalt
yeah, i will give it a shot, sound simpler than buyig capture card, ah gpu, ok, rtx2070
storm osprey
i know nvidia is better for streaming, idk about recording though
glossy plinth
eh i heard alotta people still complaining for freesync
fallen harbor
yeah, i will give it a shot, sound simpler than buyig capture card, ah gpu, ok, rtx2070
shadowplay then
glossy cobalt
I will try that, thanks a lot for simple tip @fallen harbor
fallen harbor
np
chrome skiff
make sure you are setting obs to high priority to ensure stream quality over fps
i get my 6800xt in a few days so i will see how it stacks up to my 3080. Drivers on 5700xt have been great as of late so im sure the amd drivers will be fine
storm osprey
ive seen 2 reviewers mention games shutting down on them
coarse nimbus
Just casually dropping he bought a 3080 and already secured a 6800xt just to test
storm osprey
xD
coarse nimbus
I'm in dire need of more frames in Valhalla now
glossy cobalt
@chrome skiff i tried run OBS as admin but it does not helped much
chrome skiff
well did you up its priority? if try that also instead of admin
glossy cobalt
if you run program as admin it gets highest priority or not? i will try to set it manually though, but definitely trying that shadowplay as well
glossy plinth
Is Valhalla even good
coarse nimbus
I mean I'm a fan of the series...I'm 39 hours into it and like 40% completed by the launchers tracking not rushing through it.. getting side tracked exploring collection stuff every 10 minutes
chrome skiff
I think valhalla is amazing great story indepth good characters less god like from odyssey but also has good lore or religion connections
prime jasper
@chrome skiff how come u bought a 6800xt too
fallen harbor
prime jasper
Shut the fuck up stupid weeb
ebon yarrow
Hey there, now that's not very nice to say
latent light
i9-11900K will have 8 cores and 16 threads, will still beat the 10-core/20-thread i9-10900K in multithreaded performance
Will retake the single-core performance crown from Ryzen 5000
fallen harbor
yeah but isn't i9 high tier when ryzen 5 is mid tier?
isn't the proper competition i9 vs ryzen 9?
storm osprey
single core performance hardly changes within a gen
prime jasper
when he said ryzen 5000 he meant the whole lineup
storm osprey
its why 5600x and 10600k are recommended for builds instead of their higher tier counterparts
because the higher tier parts are mostly core count increases
chrome skiff
uh because I wanted to? I'd be fine with an all amd system if they keep up the numbers
but I also have a good intel system nvidia system so either way I'm not missing much
glossy cobalt
@fallen harbor shadowplay seems to works great, no freezing on ultra, but i dont see option to record mic into separate track
but besides that A+++
fallen harbor
hmmm idk if you can separate the mic track. I can't try myself because I don't own a nvidia card, i'm sorry
supple bane
wanton carbon
is there any decent headsets out there
its for a friend who plays xbox
tried looking at logitech for him but the audio seems shite
prime jasper
corsair
storm osprey
@wanton carbon budget?
storm osprey
how much is pc37x/gameone there?
wanton carbon
160
storm osprey
i had the first clouds and as far as gaming headsets go, they are pretty solid
i really dont know headsets that well
glossy cobalt
Alt+z > settings > audio
@supple bane this is fantastic, better than OBS
dense tangle
@storm osprey do I really need a hard disk to run a GTX 1660 TI, I only bought a 2TB ssd
dense tangle
Well it says on the box 1.5 GB available Hard-Disk space under the minimum system requirements
fallen harbor
applies to ssd too
glossy plinth
isnt it only $250 nw
storm osprey
wording really should be "1.5gb of storage" not HDD
glossy plinth
hey its nyphon
storm osprey
just like other activities i partake in
dense tangle
The RTX 2060S demand is STILL through the roof
storm osprey
where?
prime jasper
Wrong channel
unkempt beacon
molten bramble
@molten bramble like 2 weeks before getting my 3080 i was getting huge random fps drops, since putting in 3080 ive lost fps in some games (warzone specifically)
@storm osprey Last Night when I installed, I initially had the same. Then, did a full clean install of the latest drivers and it cleared up.
It seems unlikely, but I think somehow the system still thought the old cards were in it.
storm osprey
i did a clean install already
molten bramble
Could it be underpowered then perhaps? What size PSU?
storm osprey
didnt get to test it a lot but im getting the same performance but now im getting fps drops to the single digit for 5-10 seconds
evga g2 850w psu
storm osprey
ive not installed it since clean install
molten bramble
Gotcha
storm osprey
i did drivers, windows, and games to test
molten bramble
Guess you’ll have to do a long run on HW64 and see if something is throttling/impeding.
Which card did you get exactly?
molten bramble
That’s supposed to be a pretty solid card, though I thought those were supposed to draw more power than the others.
storm osprey
nvidia recommends a 750w psu, and thats with the reservation of using something like a 10700k OC
most builds can get away with a 650w psu, especially if you go ryzen
glossy plinth
!!Granty
chrome skiff
have you tried under powering/voting the card @storm osprey
coarse nimbus
damn that video is cringe
chrome skiff
the new cards peak a lot even linus said its the first te he recommend 20% over what nvidia said because of the gpu peaks. I can attest my 3080 peaks hard. Its 3 8 pins and 75 watts from pcie lane and well into the 380 watts range when it peaks
like stock i can oc and gwt over 400 watts
molten bramble
Which card do you have? Sounds like the ASUS Strix?
molten bramble
I believe the OC'd cards have them.
coarse nimbus
well FE is the weird 12 pin from nvidia, powered by dual 8s, which got turned into traditional dual 8s on most of the aib cards? but some have triple for reasons
chrome skiff
I have an asus after my evga pooped out i went back to asus
molten bramble
well FE is the weird 12 pin from nvidia, powered by dual 8s, which got turned into traditional dual 8s on most of the aib cards? but some have triple for reasons
@coarse nimbus Yeah, mine has the dual-8s, but I am pretty sure the ROG Strix OC'd card had triple-8s. I'd have to look it up.
coarse nimbus
i wouldnt doubt the ROG 3070 has triple as well...because we dont know the definition of overkill 👀
chrome skiff
and also my evga ftw 3 oc required 3 8 pins also
storm osprey
well i got an 850w evga g2
coarse nimbus
was the 20% over spec only pertaining to the 80/90 cards?
chrome skiff
id download gpuz and see what it tells you
it should throw and error or limit factor before it crashes the game
coarse nimbus
huh, didnt think they 70s would be that power hungry with it being a different chip..id have to go look at the benchmark specs
chrome skiff
if your whole pc shuts down then its good to say its a power issue lol
storm osprey
games dont shut down, pc doesnt shut down either
yesterday i was getting single digit fps for like 5 seconds
chrome skiff
I was just saying benchmarking if it goes down you know why
ok what gpu usage did msi after burner say?
storm osprey
ive not installed after burner yet
molten bramble
Not sure how long that sample is, but the loads don't look like they're having any discernably odd spikes and temps seem fine.
storm osprey
ive no idea what to look for honestly, ive not had problems with my builds ever
coarse nimbus
have you messaged evga
coarse nimbus
the have an online chat iirc 
wouldnt hurt to probe with questions
molten bramble
i was getting weird stutters with my 1080
@storm osprey So other GPU-related issues have occurred previously then? Perhaps it's the board. Have you tried seating in a different PCIE slot?
storm osprey
ive not been able to do much troubleshooting
playing warzone for 5 minutes '
its a stuttery mess
70-80 fps average, with drops for 40
chrome skiff
im at work id Google the perf reason and hoe to find it on gpuz
storm osprey
common drops to 40
molten bramble
im at work id Google the perf reason and hoe to find it on gpuz
@chrome skiff Googling hoes? That doesn't sound very tech. 😄
chrome skiff
how* but ok
molten bramble
Yeah, I knew what you meant, but when you see the window of opportunity... 😄
storm osprey
vRel = Reliability. Indicating perf is limited by reliability voltage.
VOp = Operating. Indicating perf is limited by max operating voltage.
Pwr = Power. Indicating perf is limited by total power limit.
Thrm = Thermal. Indicating perf is limited by temperature limit.
Util = Utilization. Indicating perf is limited by GPU utilization.
chrome skiff
I gotcha other then that nyphon i would say you should got a 3090 lol
yes those but there are more when its cpu limited
storm osprey
blue is vrel, orange is vrop
chrome skiff
I also had to rma my evga card twice
strong breach
i wish i even had an RTX3080 to complain about :)
it's been exactly 2 months when i bought it now
ebon yarrow
Imagine...
ebon yarrow
I had to wait for 3 months for my VR headset so I know the pain
But the day it finally arrived 😍
@strong breach hope you get your graphics card soon 
strong breach
probably around new years
ebon yarrow
ebon yarrow
Well, not a techy question, but you a December boy or a January boy? 
strong breach
Jan
ebon yarrow
So big boi then
ebon yarrow
2am and drunk here.
Good thing I have tomorrow off
Nightsies then 
wise glade
alright i got a weird issue
for whatever reason my mic in discord gets worse whenever i play battlefront II or battlefield v
like it goes all robot
but only in those 2 games
i think it could be origin or something to do with frostbite
because these problems just started happening
chrome skiff
yeah my gpu will also be my birthday/christmas present too... yeah it plays out perfectly
prime jasper
thats same specs i got
weak girder
nice
prime jasper
im probably going to upgrade to a 2060
weak girder
not worth it man
prime jasper
no super
weak girder
if you're gonna upgrade go rtx 3070
prime jasper
2060 super
manic solar
not worth it
prime jasper
i live in au
manic solar
the 5700x has better performance for less money
prime jasper
the rtx 3070 is like 900 dollars
manic solar
no ray tracing though
prime jasper
in au
weak girder
the 2060 super is just not worth the upgrade
manic solar
yeah
weak girder
its like 1.5 times the fps
prime jasper
the rtx 3090 is 4000 dollars no joke in au
prime jasper
the rtx 3080 in au but in american dollar is still 900
weak girder
ok
prime jasper
Austraulia is just a exspensive country even with the price difference
weak girder
what res is your monitor though?
prime jasper
1080 to 1440p
weak girder
so its 1440p?
prime jasper
yeah
weak girder
well you can just say 1440p lmao
weak girder
yeah for that refresh rate and res I'd go with a more beefy gpu
rx 5700xt like badjo said
manic solar
yeah
weak girder
its 2070 performance
manic solar
even better
prime jasper
i think so
weak girder
370 where I live
but yeah rx 5700xt at least
or more
rtx 2070 super is 450-550$
I would wait for rtx 3060 though
weak girder
why not
mild siren
He wants to have a pc now
manic solar
3080 dlss
mild siren
Not in god knows when
manic solar
bro
weak girder
december 2nd
mild siren
Kk
manic solar
when it comes to pcs
manic solar
aha comedian
weak girder
my friend bought his one: gtx 1650 super. ryzen 3 3100 even though he could've waited for christmas and pay less and he's broke now
manic solar
@weak girder exactly
mild siren
Monitor made from tv from toilet of McDonald’s
weak girder
Chinese bootleg 2080
@mild siren you got balls
manic solar
amy schumer
mild siren
The acomedían
weak girder
*claps
weak girder
@prime jasper yeah go minimum rx 5700xt to make the upgrade worth it or wait for reviews for the 3060
manic solar
what about the 6000 series radeon cards?
weak girder
and the 6000's series are quite expensive...
manic solar
yeah, i just checked
tiny pulsar
I'm laughing so hard because I can't even get a stable 90fps on Battlefield 3 or newer on a Ryzen 5 and 2070 Super.
glossy plinth
you know what you need
tiny pulsar
jesus
glossy plinth
no
tiny pulsar
/s
tiny pulsar
Ray tracing has never been on.
glossy plinth
oh nvm u on bf3
tiny pulsar
This is in every single Frostbite game I own.
So, yeah, it's a bit silly.
Considering I haven't had a single issue with any other game.
glossy plinth
try didferent dx versions?
tiny pulsar
I have, no change.
mild siren
@tiny pulsar Yeah I’ve noticed that too
I couldn’t go above 115fps in bf4 when I was on my 2070 super
It was more like 105 fps
No matter what settings
loud hull
apparently the rtx on the 6000's series is quite bad
@weak girder but it is their first rt card so it is gonna be a bit bad
weak girder
yeah but the rtx 2000's lineup were the first rtx cards ever
and their rtx is muc better supported
storm osprey
Ask me what?
apparently the rtx on the 6000's series is quite bad
@weak girder its not bad at all unless there are stability issues, its better value than ever competitor from nvidia
warm blade
what is your computer?
storm osprey
who?
warm blade
you all
storm osprey
4790, 16gb ram, 3080
night stratus
hi
primal pier
night stratus
before i buy the game my specs are AMD Ryzen 5 2400G with Radeon Vega Graphics 3.60 GHz
Ram is 8.00 GB (5.92 GB usable)
System type is 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
can i run it?
storm osprey
unlikely
night stratus
?
storm osprey
2400g is a cpu with integrated graphics, its not really ideal for gaming other than indie titles or easy to run esport titles like valorant
id REALLY be surprised if you could get consistent 60 fps
@night stratus
warm blade
my fps are 25
fallen harbor
what game is pablo even talking about
storm osprey
that is with a 2400g at 1080p, generally low fps, 75% resolution scale, and they are getting 45ish fps
fallen harbor
and why only 6gbs are being usable out of 8
storm osprey
this video was also taken in 2018 which bfv has probably gotten worse optimization wise over the years
night stratus
so am i able to run it?
fallen harbor
run what
night stratus
battlefield V
fallen harbor
it's a desktop pc right?
storm osprey
2400g is a desktop cpu unless afaik
fallen harbor
yeah iirc thats desktop thats why i ask
it's a good enough cpu for bfv
if he got a dedicated gpu i mean
he doesnt but
if he has the money he could run bfv smoothly
engouh for 60fps
storm osprey
according to his list no, so hes gonna try running off the igpu which will get him probably 30 fps at 1080p/low
fallen harbor
if he has the money he could run bfv smoothly```he would only need to get an entry level gpu
and he-d be set
storm osprey
that assuming he has a psu that will work
fallen harbor
hmmm gtx1650 phoenix works in any generic modern psu i afaik
consumes only up to 65w i think
storm osprey
i mean, you got gpus that dont need vga connections to work, but youre still concerned about wattage
fallen harbor
i kno i kno
loud hull
Core 2 quad and r5 240 bfv if a 2400g with Igpu this might run it a bit better
glossy plinth
isnt the minimum for gaming rn 4 cores
storm osprey
pretty much
fallen harbor
every single game can run on 2c 4t
loud hull
Would not be that good
fallen harbor
just not normally at 60fps on medium settings and 1080p
the sweetspot is 6c
4 is good
2 is eh, but not necessarily unplayable
loud hull
The sweet spot is 64c
fallen harbor
youre my sweet spot bro
loud hull
Bro
storm osprey
uhhhhhh
glossy plinth
!!Banned
storm osprey
i dont see nvidia taking much market share from nvidia with 6000 series, even if stability is not a problem
i feel like most people are gonna see a 50 dollar sway in prices and just go nvidia off brand loyalty
latent light
APUs gonna be get real impressive on AM5
Only a matter of time before AMD slaps a chiplet sized iGPU onto an AM5 CPU
AMD's next-gen Rembrandt Ryzen APU family will feature next-gen Zen 3 CPU cores, RDNA 2 GPU cores, on the 6nm node with DDR5 support
Expected to launch end of 2021/beginning of 2022
storm osprey
what are your thoughts on 6000 gpus grim?
latent light
Impressive comeback
storm osprey
i thought 5000 was more impressive in terms of price to performance in a price bracket that seems more relevant
latent light
Ryzen 6000 APUs won't be using Zen4 cores or RDNA3 iGPU, they'll be using Zen3 refresh and RDNA2 refresh on 6nm
prime jasper
and why only 6gbs are being usable out of 8
@fallen harbor I’d guess it says that because 2 would be reserved for the gpu
fallen harbor
ooh
latent light
AMD is promising its super sampling technology, called Super Resolution, will be open source and cross-platform, which means it will come to next-gen consoles like the Xbox Series X|S and PlayStation 5. AMD is working with a number of partners on this technology, and it’s expecting very strong industry support across several game studios on all platforms that use it. Unfortunately, this feature won’t be ready for the launch of the three new Radeon RX 6000 Series cards.
lime ferry
green lintel
Which one better. 1080 ti OR 1660 super?
storm osprey
1080ti
green lintel
The ti models are better than the supers right? @storm osprey
storm osprey
uhhh... thats not a fixed rule, especially in this scenario
1080 ti comes from nvidias 1000 series cards, it was top of the line too when it came out in 2016ish
1660 super came out like a year ago, it kind of falls under the 2000 series gpus but they didnt name it 2000 because it doesnt have ray tracing
so they started another line at 1600
its complicated hence "thats not a fixed rule, especially in this scenario"
molten coral
Dunno for what price you can get the 1080ti but if it's over 250 I would personally save a bit more and get a second hand 2080
wanton carbon
@lime ferry NICEEEEE , what cpu did u get
green lintel
So why the 1080 ti is better than 1600 series isn't it supposed to be more power than the old gpu?
storm osprey
man so much to answer xD
coarse nimbus
its a budget gpu
storm osprey
xx80 ti determines the "tier" in that launch line
coarse nimbus
1080ti was the top of the line at the time (discounting titan)
storm osprey
being an xx80ti means it was top of the line, and youre looking at a newer xx60 super
glossy plinth
all you gotta know is that
super is super
and ti is titanium
and titanium is stronger than super
so that means ti is better
green lintel
@glossy plinth that what I was looking for. Thx
storm osprey
ti is basically used for planed gpus that are a step up from their counterparts, and supers are mostly refreshes
glossy plinth
your welcome
storm osprey
ti is not stronger than super
glossy plinth
@glossy plinth that what I was looking for. Thx
i know all tech bro
molten coral
green lintel
@glossy plinth I had an argument before with my friends and he said that the supers are better than the ti models.
glossy plinth
crackle crackle lit boom
coarse nimbus
get new friends
molten coral
1500 watt psu ? Is this a joke
green lintel
Well I laughed at him that day
storm osprey
we have really only had 2 instances of super gpus btw..
coarse nimbus
no he bought a second hand 1500 watt psu from his friend because hes a moron
storm osprey
and that came because amd put out competition and nvidia had to refresh to respond
green lintel
What does psu mean?
glossy plinth
power supply unit
storm osprey
power supply unit
green lintel
Ah alright
storm osprey
1080ti is better than a 1660 super
storm osprey
theres like 5 other reasons than that
and it mostly has to do with it being an xx80 ti vs a xx60 super card
vague gale
the 1080ti has more cuda cores doesnt it
glossy plinth
yurr
storm osprey
im gonna assume it does, but cuda cores are not the all important spec
green lintel
The vram too
molten coral
vague gale
no no no i know, clock speed mem clock speed i know i was just being very broad
molten coral
the heck are you talking about
coarse nimbus
wow did you just site userbenchmarks??
molten coral
What you saying makes 0 sense tbh
fallen harbor
water is kinda trolly from time to time
coarse nimbus
wow fake news over there
vague gale
lmao
storm osprey
that doesnt mean a 780 ti is going to be better than a 2080 super...
vague gale
im so confuseed
green lintel
Why the gtx 1080 ti still expensive
coarse nimbus
because they dont make it anymore
green lintel
It's a 3 years old
molten coral
i never troll
doubt
glossy plinth
cause i think its like
storm osprey
Why the gtx 1080 ti still expensive
@green lintel where? if its a retailer supply and demand, 2nd hand it should be around 300 bucks
glossy plinth
same perf as 2070
molten coral
you are just making things complicated
green lintel
Or 4
glossy plinth
i think
coarse nimbus
actually is it still being produced by nvidia? but yeah 2nd hand market if more people want to scoop them up now that there are "superior" cards then theyll determine the price
storm osprey
i say SHOULD according to its performance and comparing it vs 3070, doesnt mean people arent asking more
green lintel
@storm osprey I'm talking about the the web site that nacho showed us before
molten coral
No, iirc it already had stopped being produced years ago.
green lintel
It's 700 bucks lol
storm osprey
@storm osprey I'm talking about the the web site that nacho showed us before
@green lintel that likely shows msrp at launch
glossy plinth
its $260 on best buy on where i live rn lol
green lintel
@storm osprey ah. Alright
glossy plinth
oh nvm thats the 1660 super
green lintel
And how much is the1660 super?
wanton carbon
water is kinda trolly from time to time
in all fairness yeah he is
molten coral
Yeah, the prices on the site are msrp launch prices
glossy plinth
1660s in bestbuy is $260
storm osprey
i hope you are, i cant tell
glossy plinth
but you know im not..
storm osprey
im not good at reading people in general, especially through text
green lintel
1660s in bestbuy is $260
@glossy plinth I thought you were talking about the 1080 ti when you said its 260$ on best buy
prime jasper
1080ti is much better card than the 1660s, but noone buys those new. As a used card for a good price it can be a good option since it is around 2070-2080 performance. Now the used 2000-series are getting more common and might be a better option.. it all depends on prize
finite torrent
im not good at reading people in general, especially through text
that is why i try to spell good and use punctuation, helps to tell how something is being said... not enough people use commas
glossy plinth
!!Nyphon
storm osprey
Ehaaaaa
warm blade
what do you think about my dell latitude 5580?
glossy plinth
its the most expensive gaming rig in this battlefield server
warm blade
cool
latent light
storm osprey
I called all their “requirements to prevent bots” was bs. I’m just waiting on them to say “ we did everything we could but demand was too great”
coarse nimbus
the team red bit was pretty funny..wonder how much backlash they will suffer from
latent light
latent light
Ryzen 7 5800U - Zen3 - 8 cores/16 threads
Ryzen 7 5700U - Zen2 - 8 cores/16 threads; effectively a refresh of the Ryzen 7 4800U
Ryzen 5 5600U - Zen3 - 6 cores/12 threads
Ryzen 5 5500U - Zen2 - 6 cores/12 threads; effectively a refresh of the Ryzen 5 4600U
This is important to know if you're looking into Ryzen 5000 series laptops
fallen harbor
what does zen stand for
prime jasper
dont tell them
warm blade
how is intel i7?
latent light
Depends on what i7 it is
warm blade
7820
latent light
Laptop?
warm blade
yes
latent light
It's like an underclocked i7-7700 tbh
iPhone in 2021 to use 5nm enhanced silicon, 4nm in 2022
iPhone 12 is using first gen TSMC 5nm EUV
lofty light
Have you looked into the perf benchmarks for the new M1 chip?
lofty light
I've been eyeing it off
Battery life 
Main problem is if I got one I'd be using Rosetta for everything
latent light
How good is battery life
lofty light
20 hours
latent light
Thats really good
latent light
20 hours at max brightness and watching video?