while other keyboards you are more directly spending for the quality
#technology
storm osprey
storm osprey
and you know thats a better feature
you could get a gmmk for about 100 bucks thats hotswappable and comes with doubleshot keycaps
and the blackwidow elite is probably around 100 bucks for soldered on switches and laser etched keycaps
storm osprey
the keycaps broke?
lime raft
there still in the box
bought them month ago
this has the greenswitches, but older ones so it not has the half circle around it
its just a a star
and the one i now use is blackwidow ultimate 2013 battlefield 4 edition
I would be more pissed if it was my mouse
Which people sell second hand used for 250 
chrome skiff
pretty good mic, the elgato wave 3 is pretty good for its price too. hardware canucks did a video on the mics I believe if you want to hear them
storm osprey
Unless if you are trying to do professional work like a podcast or YouTube channel you might as well get something like a fifine 669b iirc
Or something convenient like a modmic.
Personally I think it’s a bit odd to get a usb mic for over 100 bucks when you can get decent xlr set ups for that price.
chrome skiff
yeah fifine has a whole arm pop filter and shock mount with the mic for under 100 bucks. moana is good too.
Yes shure makes amazing caridiod mics that are xlr and don't even need phantom power. like 40 bucks then also gotta buy an interface
everyone has their uses and situations but I hate mod mics. they sound awful and aren't even cheap. can get much better off a cheap usb mic
storm osprey
Agreed, I got a modmic but all I use it for is discord and I like the convenience. As long as people can hear me clear enough I don’t care about the rest, but if quality is a concern don’t get it.
chrome skiff
I had headsets with microphones built in and I hated how is sounded and when people used their own headset mics. just such a lackluster sound to me. I went with a yeti and fell right into the 90% of other people with yeti is they all kinda sound the same you can almost pick it out everytime someone talks with one. not a bad mic but too expensive and over purchased.
ended up going xlr recently and got a blue ember yeti and the voice quality is on par even to their 2000 dollar kiwi mic. its 100 bucks but worth it if you need quality
blue ember*
vs like the quad cast for 150 bucks id go with the ember. get a beringer xlr interface for 50 bucks and you're set
latent light
Waiting for RX 6700(XT), 6600(XT), 6500(XT) and RTX 3060(Ti), RTX 3050?(Ti)
Just need new options for mid and low range GPUs something to replace the RX 5000 series, GTX 1600 series and RTX 2060
frigid jetty
So... Rx6900xt vs 3090 vs 3080 should be interesting
analog mason
Im using the mic on my razer nari ultimate right now but I'm tired of my friends complaining about the audio quality. I just want to find the best mic I can now without having to upgrade in the future
molten bramble
If you have the ability to accept XLR inputs/provide phantom power, the AKG P-120 Precision is a solid bang for the buck.
stone basin
Any mouse up to 25$?
supple bane
Technet raptor pro if it is sold in your region @stone basin
V good mouse for the price
chrome skiff
the usb mics would be fine or you can go all out its up to you really xlr mic interface pre amps even a mixer if you want. but the USB mics would suit you fine. Buy it on Amazon test it out if you don't like it return it
oh I just saw its a tonor usb mic. I got one of them for one of the kids I look after and it came with the whole setup for 50 bucks sounded almost as good as my yeti. It should be much better then your headset mic
TONOR USB Microphone Kit, Streaming Podcast PC Condenser Computer Mic for Gaming, YouTube Video, Recording Music, Voice Over, Studio Mic Bundle with Adjustment Arm Stand, Q9 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JMYG6LF/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_i_kS.MFbVBGFAH6
delete then link if It isn't allowed but thats a whole kit and it's 10 bucks off today.
@analog mason
turbid verge
@storm osprey nvidia promo changed btw. Its not watch dogs and switch to cod cold war
coarse nimbus
That's... actually worse
kind relic
Boooo
storm osprey
id actually play cod over watch dogs
(ive never played watch dogs)
@stone basin look for g203, hyper x pulsefire, nixeus revel, and corsair katar if they are in your price range
also consider hand size
pseudo mesa
I have a calculator from 2008 and I am wondering If it should be able to do Basic Algebra.
I am willing to increase by $30
I am looking to get around 60FPS
I would enjoy if I could keep the navy blue color it is in
pseudo mesa
See I was thinking about that but do not want to void the warranty
slate ivy
I actually had to install custom firmware on my calculator cause it wouldnt boot anymore after putting in a aftermarket battery 
pseudo mesa
Rip
slate ivy
but with the cfw it can play doom and pokemon
pseudo mesa
Idk I would by a razor Calculator just for the joke of it.
What if had RGB backlittle numbers to press
slate ivy
i still hate my calculator for that fact it has a keyboad like this https://babyhuehnchen.com/i/ttwa4.png
opaque saddle
I'm going to get a small RGB mini IPS display and stuck it on the desktop case window
7" display for 33 bucks (without shipping)
that can read the stats of my pc
astral merlin
Cursed keyboard
latent light
RX 6000 series compared to RTX 3000
storm osprey
any info on said games?
glossy plinth
3060 stronger than 2080ti right
storm osprey
2080ti = 3070 < 6800 < 3080 < 6800xt
storm osprey
at least you got yours for free
coarse nimbus
Wipe those tears away with the $1200 you saved not having to buy it
storm osprey
coarse nimbus
Hmmm start the graph at like 2500, and extend it to 10k the it will seem more drastic
wanton carbon
are u getting a new one from them
supple bane
Hopefully
wanton carbon
i cant see the writing . think i need to get my eyes tested lol
supple bane
Just says it is confirmed as faulty and they will be I'm touch
storm osprey
opaque saddle
Well there are many issues that can caused it
storm osprey
varus is a adc character in league of legends
opaque saddle
You can check it with windows defender
The virus
So what about this
Do you think your computer is being slow?
To the point where it becomes unresponsive and slow?
near rune
You cant get a virus or malware if you didnt download anything fishy
opaque saddle
If yes then you may have to check whether you hard drive is running fine
So my recommendations are:
- Do a backup for your computer right now. Back up to cloud, USB or another hard drive
- do a hard drive test (to check for bad sectors)
storm osprey
do you have any important docs you cant just put on an external drive right now?
or any reason you can redownload?
personally i would just clean install/format
latent light
near rune
Making a backup would take hours with a slow hdd
opaque saddle
Well backup important files
Doesn’t mean to backup the entire system
Back up the most important stuff before switching off your pc tonight
near rune
U sure you dont have origin
Did u try to go from the file directory
Is your hdd full?
opaque saddle
That could happened if there is a malfunction hard drive (with bad sectors)
Read what I have written for the recommendations. Do a backup, do a hard drive check.
If your computer have failed the S.M.A.R.T test then you have to replace a hard drive. If you still got warranty on it, claim your warranty
What about bad sector test?
storm osprey
accurate
coarse nimbus
lol my friend linked me that about 20 mins ago
is that graph fairly accurate to rl though, with vega 64 being trash? 
opaque saddle
They forgot Intel HD Graphics 6000
@prime jasper get a new hard drive, or claim for replacement if it is still in warranty
ashen ether
Can anyone suggest an $800 whole build pc (including perihps)
Also, add around 10% the srp for price inflation
opal cliff
So tempted to start researching for upgrading my computer for Christmas lol
storm osprey
!!build @ashen ether
silent oasisBOT
- What's your budget/currency and country of purchase? Any preferred physical/online shops?
- Gaming? Streaming? What's your resolution/FPS targets? What games are you playing?
- Not gaming or professional/hobby use cases? What are the applications you will use and workload involved? Kindly elaborate as much as possible.
- What else do you need to buy? (monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, speakers, Windows, WiFi)
- Anything else you want to tell us? RGB, Small Form Factor, already have a part list? Tell us!
- If you have a build list and are looking for a second opinion or are upgrading an existing system, please have a PCPartPicker permalink for it (https://pcpartpicker.com/list)
opaque saddle
800 USD or euro
ashen ether
@storm osprey
- PHP, physical shop
- Gaming for a stable 60 to 100 fps on low setting
- Programming (netbeans, visual basic and android studio)
- Preferably a 144hz monitor if possible for my budget
- Atleast a GTX 1650super
800 USD
storm osprey
What is php?
storm osprey
It’s gonna be rough putting together a build for a physical foreign shop.
At least got a webpage for a shop?
ashen ether
I really dont trust online prices, they're mostly outdated in here
Maybe if you can try suggesting a build from your own currency then just add around 10% for a realistic and actual price in here
storm osprey
ehhh, that usually doesnt translate well, especially with USA because we basically have everything and at good prices
errant thunder
might as well just make a new currency at that point when its worth toe nail clippings
ashen ether
Thats the wrong peso lmao
sage sage
for some reason on my rtx 2060 card i am getting 80-110fps on this game and my mate is on high settings getting 120fps and i have an i5 9400 can anybody help?
supple bane
what are his specs?
next cobalt
yeah what i was asking
nerm you should give a full specsheet
but it might just be, you simply have less fps cause of cooling or maybe he has overclocked
sage sage
ye i just tried his
next cobalt
i see
supple bane
what are specs of both you and your friend
sage sage
and i got 60-70
next cobalt
well do you have the same programs installed tho
next cobalt
you probably have more services and programs installed than him
andf they are all running in the background
supple bane
that wont make a different on a new pc
next cobalt
yeah it does
supple bane
no it doesnt lol
supple bane
maybe like 1-2%
sage sage
how do i close them
supple bane
nothing noticeable
next cobalt
its probably not that nerm
if you keep stuff like google chrome open while you play its gonna lag a bit
supple bane
based on what he has said it is probably just his friend has a faster pc
next cobalt
you shouldn't have other windows open, besides maybe discord if you want
supple bane
since he cant name the specs
next cobalt
based on what he has said it is probably just his friend has a faster pc
@supple bane i think they have the same
nerm do you have the same gpu and cpu
supple bane
what cpu does he have ?
sage sage
i have a i5 9400
supple bane
and what settings are you both using
supple bane
1080p?
sage sage
anye both 1080
supple bane
well that will likely cause a gpu bottleneck on a 9400..
your fps sounds about right
next cobalt
a little low tho
sage sage
should i upgrade my cpu
next cobalt
its still an i5 9400
supple bane
this game is incredibly cpu intensive, and the lower resolution and in game detail the more cpu bound it becomes
next cobalt
i mean not if you dont need more than 60fps
supple bane
i bet your gpu is only running at 60% usage
next cobalt
try using higher settings nerm
supple bane
i have the same issue, i get more stable fps on medium/high than what i do on low
next cobalt
also you might want to get newer drivers because sometimes they make the gpu run faster and less dependant of cpu
thats what happens on minecraft
its cpu bound but fancy uses less cpu and more gpu
if you have it on fast without optifine it will kill an i9
sage sage
fps is more stable on high preset
but it keeps dipping to like 60 sometimes whats up with that
supple bane
what ram do you have ?
supple bane
mainly is it dual channel or single channel
next cobalt
he has 2 sticks
supple bane
ie do you have 1 or two sticks
sage sage
dual
next cobalt
nerm
is your monitor 60hz
or more
it likely drops because you keep your fps uncapped so it chokes when it gets to high fps
you should cap it to something in the middle of 60 and your higher fps (if you have a monitor thats more than 60hz)
sage sage
no i got 1 144
next cobalt
that you usually get tho
next cobalt
then cap it on 90fps
sage sage
stutters
next cobalt
do you know how to open task manager
you should have task manager open on performance tab and when you lag you alt tab onto it to see whats causing it
i have a 1060 and an i5 8400 but what causes lag on most games for me is the fact i only have one stick of 8 gigs of ram, so like destiny or gta, the computer starts to fill up the ram and it uses "virtual memory". Virtual memory is a space your computer allocates onyour hard disk to use it as RAM, the problem is the hard disk is around 100 times slower than RAM so it lags when it tries to do that
you might be filling up your ram, or your hard disk might just go to 100 for no reason at all and thats because you have windows defender on
sage sage
hm ok
sage sage
how do i do that
next cobalt
there's a program for that, let me see
opaque saddle
If you have another antivirus software, then you can disable it
next cobalt
no you just should disable it anyways but yeah if you do you should get another antivirus
you likely wont need an antivirus ever
but yeah
sage sage
my cpu is also at 100% when playing
opaque saddle
But in general, personally I do not recommended to disable it
next cobalt
thats normal
sage sage
how do i check my gpu
next cobalt
But in general, personally I do not recommended to disable it
@opaque saddle well i recommend it, it's made a huge impact on my computer, especially ram and cpu
Nerm you go to task manager, then Performance tab and i think you have to right click somewhere to add it
let me see
it should be there by default
lets be real you don't really need an antivirus in 2020, you can google if the website you want to download something off of is safe
i have malwarebytes for scans
but you absolutely dont need real time protection
and windows defender is very bad at that
opaque saddle
Unless people make it for schedule check, coz windows defender can do great against virus or malware. So if you don’t have any third party antivirus software installed, your computer is much less safe to use if you disabled it manually
molten coral
I only use windows defender and haven’t got a virus in years.
Just think about where you download something from
next cobalt
yeah exactly
i have win defender turned completely off and i have never gotten a virus
you can use virustotal for smaller files
sage sage
my gpu at 60%
next cobalt
and malwarebytes
yeah nerm its pretty normal a 2060 with an i5-9400 is a normal cpu bottleneck
opaque saddle
You should look at whether you CPU fan is working properly or with abnormal high temp
sage sage
ye
next cobalt
i suggest you turn off win defender then get 1 or 2 games to see if that makes a change
then turn it back on
i can give you a small program i found that does that, i checked and its safe, you can check too (or i can just give you the name)
sage sage
i just turned it off
next cobalt
you cant turn it off from settings it will not turn it off
sage sage
ok send program
lilac delta
When I plug my earphones in my new monitor (3mm) the volume is very low even on 100% while on previous monitors i was mostly too loud so I had to put it on 50% ... the output seems to be high or low depending on monitor. Anyone knows an explanation or fix for this?
opaque saddle
adjust the volume either via monitor settings (panel) or volume control on windows
prime jasper
windows defender is better than 90% of anti viruses lol keep it on if u want but if ur not stupid u wont get a virus
manic solar
norton 360
next cobalt
lmao norton is sooo bad
and win defender is definitely not better than 90% of antiviruses, its only decent because its "free"
but it has one of the lowest detection rates of any av
molten coral
Maybe it’s not the best but as I said earlier if you aren’t dumb and think about where you download X program than 99,9% of the people will be fine.
manic solar
and logs all the activity while ur away or using your pc
next cobalt
norton is overpriced and has a super low detection rate
ofc if you're not dumb you just
dont need a real time protection antivirus
thats why i have malwarebytes free and win defender is off
near rune
Wd is easy to bypass
So is norton
And avast
Wd is good for general people who just use the internet and play games
Theres really no need for an av unless you dont click download every single thing on the internet
That you see
vestal dust
i really hate my av
quartz fox
i have the best antivirus
wanton carbon
does anyone know any pc's that could run games at 1080p and is about 700-750 pounds for a friend
vestal dust
i can't even remember the name but its so fucking shit, i got a virus from a game qnd it didnt help
quartz fox
tell him to wait till ryzen 5th gen is out and new GPUS are out because prices will go down
also build a pc its way cheaper and you get decent parts compared to chinese psu which is a actually a time bomb if you try to upgrade it
pretty easy to
wanton carbon
its his first pc
and his parents dont want him to build one incase they dont know what he is doing and breaks something
quartz fox
he wont break something just follow a build guide and youll be fine itll cost him more money if he buys a prebuilt as you wont be able to upgrade it that easy
prime jasper
just get a 2600 for 120 or used for cheaper
buy an rx 570 or some shit
and ur fine
wanton carbon
no i mean like his parents wont let him build one
prime jasper
only pre build shop that iknow that does eu that is any good is pcspecialist
quartz fox
nzxt bld is his best bet then
prime jasper
thats only na
quartz fox
its not
prime jasper
unless they changed recently
quartz fox
i can get it in uk
prime jasper
u can?
vestal dust
yh pretty sure
prime jasper
probs only ships to a few countries
depends where hes from
but if they ship to his country then yea go with them
they're not too bad
quartz fox
it ships to germany so it would ship to uk i imagine
prime jasper
their customer service is shit tho so watch out for that
if u tell him to go with them
prime jasper
if what ur saying is right then these guys need to go update their page lol
shit is still saying january 2020 and saying they only ship to canada and us but obviously its october now
quartz fox
go on the german site
and then
translate
@wanton carbon what AAA games is he going to be playing
prime jasper
damn that starter pc
can easily be better if they change it up a bit lol
but i guess they have a build fee too
prime jasper
most wont
they just look ugly
and unappealing
but i see what ur saying
i wouldnt want one in my pc for sure
wanton carbon
he plays games like R6 , cod ,
quartz fox
not very upgradeable
prime jasper
idk why nzxt would go with an i3
quartz fox
i imagine BF
wanton carbon
no
prime jasper
yikes
quartz fox
https://www.nzxt.com/de/bld/step3?price=1000 this one is 899
in £
according google as it doesnt have £ on there it has euros so i just converted it
prime jasper
what country is ur friend from @wanton carbon
wanton carbon
uk
wanton carbon
yeah
quartz fox
yeah ive heard of them
wanton carbon
i will have a look for him
quartz fox
just dont get any NEW prebuilts from ebay cuz they are mostly underpowered or OP but you might find a good used gaming pc on ebay but hey
wanton carbon
he looks on amazon all the time
prime jasper
amazon pre builts are awful too
quartz fox
i wouldnt look on amazon either
prime jasper
u really would want to buy one from an actual company
wanton carbon
but i dont want him to buy off there , because they use shit ram , and shit psu's and probs shit mobo's
wanton carbon
if its broke when it arrives i doubt he will have a warrenty on i
quartz fox
and you can configure
prime jasper
the ones on pc specialist have vat added too it sadly
quartz fox
it all has VAT
prime jasper
yea i guess
go on pc specialist configure one then go on other sites an see what u can get too
wanton carbon
is VAT like tax or something ?
prime jasper
yea
wanton carbon
yeah i made on on pc specialists cheap as i can and it was 650 pounds for 8gb ram , 1660super and a ryzen 3 something
but it ended up being 770 as it included VAT
prime jasper
yea
that system would 100% play 1080p aaa games tho
maybe with 16 gigs of ram instead since i know some games use more than that
like cod
quartz fox
wanton carbon
i play 8gb ram rn
quartz fox
they are based in london
wanton carbon
but i am getting 15gb for xmas
quartz fox
i would get 16gb if its not much more
definatley worth it
just dont get any because some mobos have mhz limits
make sure you mobo can support the frequency
wanton carbon
thats why i would rather him get a prebuilt because he could buy a mobo that doesnt support the cpu and shit
its his first pc too
quartz fox
it very hard to buy the wrong CPU if you have a brain
wanton carbon
yup
prime jasper
most b450 + mobos can support past 3600mhz
so u shouuldl be fine if u go ryzen and b450
which u should only go b450 for that price
theres some real good mobos for 100 anyway for b450
so you'd be fine
wanton carbon
i mean i have fans he could have , also a 550 watt psu
prime jasper
is this a real life friend?
if its u could build it for him and ship it to him or sokmething
quartz fox
if he does his research and watches a few build guides and if he doesnt impulsively buy anything he will be fine
prime jasper
yea if u know how to uild them which is quite easy u could do it ffor him
wanton carbon
yeah
prime jasper
will be quite cheaper too if u give him that psu
wanton carbon
i could send a picture in a bit
prime jasper
of what the psu
quartz fox
is it 80+?
prime jasper
cooler master isnt the best but i'd gess it'd be ok
wanton carbon
i have to go rn and do something but in like an hour i can send a pic
prime jasper
for 550w u cant go wrong in many places
wanton carbon
idk if its 80+
quartz fox
should be
wanton carbon
i just know its a 550 watt psu
wanton carbon
i will take it out the case later and send a pic
quartz fox
with the sticker on obvs
wanton carbon
oh ok
wanton carbon
yeah i will go get a pic of it now
prime jasper
alr
wanton carbon
I do have a case aswell
prime jasper
what case
prime jasper
what?
lilac delta
@opaque saddle I mean, when using earbuds plugged in 3,5mm jack of a monitor, 100% volume on one monitor sounds like 25% on the other one. It has nothing to do with settings since these are checked and the same. On some monitors there's the volume is too low (on 100%) while on others it has decent sound on 25-50% already. This issue appears on 50% of the monitors I used to have.
prime jasper
@wanton carbon yea they're fine
its*
it'll do the job and wont catch on fire or anything
wanton carbon
oh
prime jasper
why'd usay oh fuck
prime jasper
no its small
500w will still be able to powera lot
i mean a 1660ti which is practically a rtx 2060 can go 450w
450w being the whole system including the gpu
and a 2060 is recommened for 500w
so you'd be fine
and those two gpus are very good for 1080p gaming
chrome skiff
they have a wattage calculator you can figure out your whole pc power draw
pc part picker has a pretty good one too its close enough
prime jasper
u dont really need to use one tbh
chrome skiff
well he seemed worried about his psu and power draw so sometimes its nice to see something like that.
chrome skiff
I didnt say it wasnt i agree he should be fine
chrome skiff
My cpu makes up for a lot of the headroom on this but also not by that much. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/52369950?
This is my oc'd profile where my 2080ti is 16% slower then my 3080. My 3080 scores about 18500 or close to it for the gpu score. Benchmark cant really stress this high of a core count cpu to its max neither. So this is a 3900xt at 1.1volts doing 4.3-4.4. Scoring in the range of my 10900k at 4.9ghz. If i undervolt it both cpu and gpu i get a 14800 and i run almost 140 watts less of power at 445 watts vs 591-600.
Underclocking the whole system on air performs within 15% of my water cooled 10900k 3080 system and draws much less power. Air cooled 3900xt and 2080ti never really goes over 60c While my water cooled system also hiuts about 60c on average
Idk if anyone else here has a 3080 they would compare cause my 3080 will not overclock and wont underclock. it only reacts to my power slider. I feel i can push that gap to 20% headroom but the card doesnt like evga px and msi isnt helpful either
keen geyser
is it normal to have 100% cpu usage most of the time?
chrome skiff
it depends on the cpu and what you're doing
keen geyser
bfV
chrome skiff
bfv is cpu heavy, what cpu
keen geyser
i have an i7-8700 and rtx 2080
chrome skiff
Yeah i hit 100% cpu on my 8 core here and there. Open up task manager if you can and see if anything else is up
molten coral
I’ve the same with the i7-8700k
chrome skiff
I wouldnt look at it as bottle necking. Not enough to worry about it. But if you start dropping big fps and stuttering hard id maybe keep look at task manager. It shouldn't be hurting your performance much at all
keen geyser
okay good
was wondering that cause it's one of the very few games that do that for me
chrome skiff
well bfv is a game that can and will use more than 6 cores/12t especially with a high end gpu and doing high refresh. I wouldnt worry about it though
prime jasper
The 10900k oced takes so much watts its mad
chrome skiff
Maps like narvic and rotterdamn when it gets hectic with strikes being called in and a heavy focus objective ive hit 100% usage on 8 core/16 t
10900k is such an ugly champ. It costs more for 2 less cores and the single core isnt that much better if at all. I have my 3900xt all core oc'd while still having my 1-2 core boost. So when i benchmark my 3900xt at 4.7 single core its 4 points higher then a stock 10900k. But that rarely happens because even old games still push amd cpus into all core mode and lower the clocks
Plus turning off the p states and turning all the power safety things off the 10900k still draws more power then my 3900xt even it ifs just 20 watts. What do you expect with 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++ 🙂
coarse nimbus
smh imagine being twice as big in your NMs department and only just get beaten by something half your size
chrome skiff
I mean it still wins for gaming in my book. Price sucks and if intel dropped 100 bucks on it and made sure they could keep it in supply im sure a lot more people would go intel. The unfortunate side of competition
chrome skiff
Just be weary this is also on a 5000 series amd cpu with a x570 mobo. They talked the technology up a lot and this can be a counter to nvidias dlss. Strictly speaking technology vs technology
They are good fast cpus like faster than intel per the claims and they have other tech they talked about showing off sam smart rage etc. Im not saying they wont be good but i would wait till you get reviews from actual reviewers
coarse nimbus
but from other charts....SAM doesnt do shit
chrome skiff
Im talking about to make the gains as big as possible. They have a 5000 series cpu and that alone comes with big gains. its a 5900x. That with sam and maybe rage could all together make the numbers look inflated
They could of easily made that graph more relevant by putting a 36/3700x in there or even a 3900x.
They even say in the graph its enabled again just see how they turn out with reviewers
latent light
Jensen hasn't said a word about RX 6000 reveal
Back when the Radeon VII or RX 5700XT launched Jensen said it was lousy and underwhelming
wanton carbon
what sonos
molten coral
Sonos is a wireless sound system
wanton carbon
a sound bar ? speaker
molten coral
it works via WiFi
wanton carbon
ohh
molten coral
they have multiple products
wanton carbon
ngl that rectangular one just above the sound bar on the left looks cool
chrome skiff
I have audioengine a2 wireless
the white ones pretty great monitors imo
is there something making you want the sonos more? is this for a pc setup or home audio?
molten coral
The only reason why I think about getting sonos is because it's very easy to use and I could expand it around the house with other sonos products.
wanton carbon
buy like 10 speakers and put them in every room of the house 
molten coral
I had some harmon kardon soundsticks before and they were amazing but I kinda hated all the wiring
wanton carbon
are them the ones which was on your older desk
molten coral
yeah
wanton carbon
the glass tower i think they was
molten coral
I broke it
molten coral
eh heck it going for the sonos speaker
chrome skiff
I was gonna say the a2z are amazing but lack a sub so if you want ot need that maybe go sonos
actually I'd look into focal if you don't have a budget >.< I have a focal sound system in my car and 2 floor speakers for my living room tv amd they are very very good
molten coral
Focal is way too expensive for me
My budget is around 400 and if I really think it would be great 500
chrome skiff
has to be wireless?
molten coral
Well it doesn't have to be but my preference is going to be wireless
Easier to setup and no hassle with cables
chrome skiff
I would wait for the sales and see if you can find Nakamichi sound bars on sale. they sell a whole kit but its usually 800-1000 goes on sale for 5-600 a lot. but you might be right on the money with sonos and your budget
thats like Dolby atmos and stuff too
the 2019 nak kit was on sale for 499 for their summer sale but idk what their 2020 sale will be like
prime jasper
@latent light he only does it when his competition does bad aka radeon VII or when the 5700xt released he didnt say anything because it didnt compete at all with the 2080ti or 2080 which was his top models
now hes losing hard
molten bramble
They are good fast cpus like faster than intel per the claims and they have other tech they talked about showing off sam smart rage etc. Im not saying they wont be good but i would wait till you get reviews from actual reviewers
@chrome skiff I was thinking the same. The baseline here is a component framework that caters to AMD, so results may vary on other hardware combinations, especially if involving Intel sockets.
It's speculation at this point, I'll wait and see.
coarse nimbus
thats 4k benchmarks too?
chrome skiff
Doesnt mean their tech like dlss isnt advantageous. We arent saying the cards are bad or arent worth it just to simply wait before pulling the trigger i wouldnt say we havea winner just yet
opaque saddle
depends on what people wanna see. coz benchmark and in game performance are two different things
coarse nimbus
which ever shows our tech at the top..gib more of that one
prime jasper
yea its 4k
opaque saddle
it is like AMD is top of the benchmark leaderboard but gaming performance is not as fast as intel
but using amd processor gives better value in content production (apart from using intel quicksync) compared to intel. so same thing
prime jasper
amds smart
they've realised they're the only ones making gpus and cpus and capatalized of that
consumers will have to see if using an amd cpu with an amd gpu now is actually worth it and if it really is then amds got a kid buying a gpu and a cpu now
which is better for them obviously
opaque saddle
so i wouldn't call amd or nvidia's card is a winner of another until people have fully tested
prime jasper
i think amd will sell more this time imo
so i guess they win in that aspect but if the gpu is better or not no clue
just gonna have to see
but it'll be a while till the 6900xt releases i believe too
opaque saddle
people will just wait and see which one to get. Nvidia tends to have much better overall (on average) graphics drivers
prime jasper
100%
i heard amds drivers have been a bit better recently so
cant say since i dont own an amd gpu tho
opaque saddle
recently yes because of the 3080s
chrome skiff
not to mention if the values are correct across the board. I just showed my personal 2080ti system only being 16% slower then a 3080 when the claims are much more than 16%. My 5700xt is fine for 1080p gaming and it does 1440p and 4k but istill feel like its a 1080p card to me
coarse nimbus
buy amd, forget nvidia (aka leave more stock for the rest of us) 
prime jasper
i reckon they'll win in that aspect like the 570 580 vs the 1650 etc
opaque saddle
you have to know "what product manufactures want you to see" is different from "the expectations people are expected to see"
prime jasper
i doubt they would change their results past 5% better than what it really is however
thats still a big amount tbh
opaque saddle
depends. coz different games run on different cards perform differently
like 5700xt is faster than 2070 super in FH4 (26% faster) at 1440p but 13% slower in R6S
chrome skiff
then throw dlss in it and have the cards compete at 4k and its a whole different story
it depends on the game and technology just like the amd benchmarks are doing
fallen harbor
wanton carbon
😂
latent light
RX 6800XT is 5% faster than RTX 3080 in 4K, 9% faster in 1440p, 11% faster in 1080p
So RX 6000 is even faster at lower resolutions
coarse nimbus
Anyone done 480p benches yet?
latent light
chrome skiff
dun dun dun
wanton carbon
ember stone
can anyone lend a hand on an issue im having on BF5?
storm osprey
Just ask
leaden osprey
ASK
prime jasper
i know this is stupid but is it possible to run windows on a raspberry pi?
opaque saddle
Yes it’s possible but it turns really badly due to different construction sets. I wouldn’t recommend you to do so.
wanton carbon
glossy plinth
but fr tho
the i9 packaging looks so damn cool
ryzen needa make better packaging and have style
chrome skiff
I sold my og i9 and kept the box mwahahaha
chrome skiff
no it stays on my shelf. it over clocked like a champ and deserves to be remembered
wanton carbon
what ghz even is it
chrome skiff
stock is 4.7 all core boost to 5 on single threaded crap. I had a 5.2 all core at 1.325 giggly hurts
oh and 4 sticks of wham at 3600mhz cl15
latent light
Xbox Series X|S features machine learning shader cores, which hints at a DLSS-like performance enhancing image reconstruction technique.
chrome skiff
well its amd so it would be virtual super resolution and image sharpening
its open source and cross platform for playstation xbox and ofc pc
latent light
"Additionally, we also know from AMD that they're working on an open, cross-platform alternative to NVIDIA's DLSS, which again suggests this is being used on both PC and Xbox Series hardware. The developers at Gaijin Entertainment told us last week they're already exploring DirectML uses for their games, so it seems like only a matter of time before this potential hardware advantage materializes."
Apparently PS5 doesn't get this feature
chrome skiff
Its still amd internals, as yes they might not have it for ps5 i wouldnt expect it to never come to ps5. it would be as simple as an update since the hardware supports it
like dlss 1.9 was shaders and texture changes. Then dlss 2.0 was moved to using tensor cores. So id imagine they would have something even if it isnt hardware based
and sony has a patent on their own thing for super sampling they just use the old school checkerboard stuff that amd has been using. But it will be refined for ps5
chrome skiff
do you have a link? Rdna 1 and rdna 2 are different architectures. Everything i see says its only rdna 2
the only thing hybrid i can think of is it being an apu. Where it has cpu cores and gpu cores in a sense similar to a 3400g. Much faster obviously
prime jasper
why would it be an older architecture mixed with a new one
latent light
@chrome skiff
Rosario Leonardi, an engineer at Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, gave us some interesting explanations, responding to a private message on social media: “I know you are curious, but I am legally bound and I cannot say anything that has not been made public. As you probably know, the architecture of PS5 is a middle ground between RDNA1 and RDNA2, with unique characteristics. Even PlayStation 4 Pro was a sort of hybrid between GCN 2 and GCN 4 "
prime jasper
i guess it'd be cheaper to make but im pretty sure its the rdna 2
chrome skiff
link my i dont want copy pasta
chrome skiff
no gcn 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0 is like avx instruction or sse. Its a type of instruction not a architecture
it could be optimised for an architechture but no it itself has nothing to do with the gpu in there let alone rdna1/2
It is simply for making apu runs faster or using it asa efficiently as it can. Its a instruction that can be used by the cpu and gpu cores if needed
latent light
GCN 2.0 and 4.0 are whole different generations lol
prime jasper
and
chrome skiff
gcn and rdna 1 and 2 are different generations? What are you getting at?
you cant run gcn on rdna 2. So yes what are you getting at>
i would expect the ps4 to be gcn simply due to how long amd used it. It clearly states ps5 and xbox are rdna 2
latent light
Engineer at Sony made the claim that PS5 is a middle ground of RDNA1 and RDNA2
prime jasper
u still havent linked anything for that
chrome skiff
yeah im just waiting for a link
chrome skiff
5700xt is a rdna 1 gpu, the new gpus the 6800xt is rdna 2
chrome skiff
They said it was because of the price to performance. I know its rdna 2
So if they used rdna 1 gpu and optimized it maybe they can call it rdna 1.5 but its confirmed and has been confirmed its rdna 2
latent light
Sony says "custom" RDNA2 but that could mean anything
chrome skiff
no thats rdna 2 thats been optimized for their apu/ console stuff.
its rdna 2 thats custom
idk why you cant link me on it
chrome skiff
Like i said gcn 4 can use gcn 2 instructions. The rdna 2 can use rdna 1 instructions. By being the newer generation think of it as backwards compatible. Its rdna 2 with some of the games not needing an update to run on it.
zak link was literally october 7th and probably the best at explaining it. Its rdna 2 that wont use all the rdna 2 features like ray tracing. Its still rdna 2
"yet"
latent light
DirectML for Xbox Series and RX 6000 GPUs is looking promising
DirectML could be huge because it's open source and platform agnostic
chrome skiff
Hopefully with more games using ml it will be more generally optimized and will lead to pc getting better optimizations. We can only hope our pc hardware gets fully utilized
latent light
Man why don't AMD put console APUs in desktops
I know that DDR memory is currently too slow for high-end performance out of a iGPU so they'd need to put on-board HBM but that wouldnt fit on AM4 socket so I think they would have to use TRX40 socket to be able to fit an I/O die, CCD, GPU die and HBM die on the same package
chrome skiff
well its a lot easier to make 2 designs 1 for xbox and 1 for playstation and mass produce it. Pc already have dedicated swappable part
latent light
Microsoft should just give us the option to install Windows 10 on the new Xbox and use it like an actual gaming PC, even tho that would kill the low-mid range DIY gaming PC market
Since the GDDR6 on PS5/XSX are shared between CPU and GPU, I wonder how much faster a Zen2 based Ryzen CPU is with GDDR6 bandwidth
coarse nimbus
i thought the point of the hardware in a console was...custom engine that had basically no bloat to it so it can run more efficiently than PCs
chrome skiff
that is also true
coarse nimbus
which why horrible console ports run like crap on computer (cough legions) so if you installed win 10 on an xbox ...wouldnt it perform like a shit pc?
chrome skiff
custom os custom everything for well optimization
I wanna say linus put windows on a playstation or something iirc but yeah it runs like poo
coarse nimbus
i saw a linus vid pop up last night...some custom pc for a "client" that was in the shape of an illuminati pyramid lol, with dual 3090s...like why
chrome skiff
cause linus has M O N E Y that boy is rich
coarse nimbus
well it might be for elon musk people were saying in the comments due to tesla hints being dropped
so who ever theyre making the pc for.."heard this card was faster so i want it instead" (over a 3080 i believe) but like why the fuck are you doing SLI thats just dumb
chrome skiff
i mean the ev hummer was just announced and it looks pretty good
coarse nimbus
how much torque do you want....yes?
chrome skiff
Sli was announced to be dead but if he has other uses for it
coarse nimbus
I dont even remember what intel is
prime jasper
@coarse nimbus the client wanted 4 titans before the new 3000 reveal
i'd hate to have to talk to him
chrome skiff
i mean when talking ms response i like to look at shroud and his pc. He has that new 360hz monitor with nvidia reflex. I also like to think of pc's like cars. You can have a fast 11 second car but to make it sub 10 you gotta get a lot more power and tweaks done to it
prime jasper
rich people man..
chrome skiff
I mean intel isnt the best value but i still appreciate my 10900k. It runs insanely well. Shroud still has a 9900k and a 3090
latent light
Y'all realize most top players in esports can't even tell between 144hz and 240hz
chrome skiff
I mean at 1440p my 2080ti gets220 fps on bfv? So i think if people change their settings they can reach 360hz
coarse nimbus
lol 220 fps...
chrome skiff
at 1440p
coarse nimbus
smh wait till a 6800 comes out, youll get 225 easy
i hope you feel bad with your 2080ti now /s
chrome skiff
they said the whole system response is somewhere between 45-55ms and with with reflex its like 15ms
latent light
6800 priced so fucked when the 6800XT is just $70 more
chrome skiff
yawn no i dont feel bad buying gpus it still is a 2080ti its not like it got slower
latent light
Price/perf went down tho
chrome skiff
I also have a 3080 and it isnt "30%" faster its 16% faster. My 2080ti overclocked scores right where it should be and my 3080 scores 16% higher
on average i should say. some games it kills but still outliers
I didnt buy a 2080ti for price to performance lol
latent light
It's funny that a lot of people bought RTX 2000 cards before Ampere announcement because people thought Nvidia were gonna raise prices once again and Ampere wouldn't offer much better value
chrome skiff
its right where its always been. 980ti to a 1070, 1080ti to a 2070 and a 2080ti to a 3070 this isnt new
latent light
1080Ti to 2080
chrome skiff
prime jasper
if i had a 1080ti i wouldn't see the purpose of upgrading
al lthe other cards are shit
chrome skiff
only difference is thats a super which assumed the non super price. You were able to buy 2070 non super for 380 bucks
chrome skiff
I mean 1440p is demanding. I simply want my pc to offer the best performance. If at 1440p Thats only 15-20% more so be it
latent light
1080Ti is ~60% faster than 980Ti
2080Ti is ~30% faster than 1080Ti
3080 is ~50% faster than 2080Ti
chrome skiff
If i was playing 1080p i dont think id worry that much
prime jasper
highly doubt the 3080 is 50% faster
latent light
Pascal still the largest generational leap of the decade imo
chrome skiff
timespy is a synthetic benchmark and can be found with a simple google search that 3080s score in the 18500 range
my 2080ti scores in the 15600 range
which is 15%
16% on average
wanton carbon
yeah fuck my computer
I SWEAR IF THIS SHIT IS BROKEN AGAIN
i go on warzone and LAG shitlessly
max fps i got was 100 and that was in the lobby
i play low settings all the time
absoluet bs
latent light
The GPU in the Xbox Series S only has 4 TFLOPs, whereas the Series X has 12 TFLOPs, so this should mean around 1/3 of the performance. That doesn't sound good until you learn that the Xbox Series S still has a faster GPU than the Xbox One X.
supple bane
@wanton carbon you might need to install shaders
wanton carbon
oh
supple bane
just restart the app and you should get a little thing at the top saying "downloading shaders"
wanton carbon
I will look now
glossy plinth
overrated cpu
supple bane
Why?
near rune
Because intel is overpriced and its obviously better
molten coral
lol
wanton carbon
all of them arent overpriced
prime jasper
yo
latent light
PS5, Xbox Series X, Series S size comparison
prime jasper
cool
molten coral
PS5 has a super big cool system
latent light
PS5 is like 4 inches taller than Xbox SX
nocturne lion
I'm still getting that mini fridge 
latent light
PS5 cooling ain't even as good as the Xbox either
prime jasper
didnt they acc make an xbox fridge
How much difference is there?
@molten coral bruh it november
why you chirstmasty already
latent light
That data measured from Red Dead Redemption 2 gameplay
molten coral
hmmm
prime jasper
aight
molten coral
That is pretty good though ngl
prime jasper
what is
molten coral
I haven't seen any numbers about the PS5 so i'm kinda wondering about that
latent light
Xbox Series X only pulling 130 watts on RDR2 at 4K, that's less power draw than most graphics cards
grim pagoda
test
glossy plinth
happy holidays tech friends
subtle girder
mild siren
Holidays just ended bruh @glossy plinth
opaque saddle
@latent light ain't that surprised tbh, if you can recall what i said a few months before it launched
glossy plinth
@mild siren winter holiday started yesrrday
mild siren
Bruh
Mid term break ended for me today
Winter holiday starts in 31 days
You in uni? @glossy plinth
That would explain it
glossy plinth
ye
prime jasper
The Xbox series whatever can hit like 56 under heavy load so it’s pretty good cooling
strong breach
sounds really good actually
storm osprey
yoooooooooo cpus drop soon
lilac delta
When I am in BF5 my sound is lower and less intense than when hearing the same music in background. How to fix? I have headphones G935 wireless (7.1 surround enabled).
So when I alt+tab out the sound goes up while in BF5 the sound is cutted/lower and seem not even to be surround although I set it up like that in audio settings?
molten bramble
Check your Nahimic driver panel and your sound settings in Windows perhaps. Also, might have other codecs like DTS running.
How exactly are you running 7.1 Surround on two speakers? Makes no sense. Ah, it's DTS 7.1 emulated, not actually 7.1.
You should also check the Logitech G Hub control panel to ensure that it's not hindering performance (G Hub can load settings by-game; for instance, I use a different keymap/color combo on Rainbow Six Siege than I do on Star Citizen).
glossy plinth
1st
glossy plinth
architecture
wanton carbon
architecture is cool
lilac delta
Is this good setting for BF5 headphones?
storm osprey
eq for headphones varies on headphones...
for fps, reduced bass and emphasized mids are good, which assuming a flat sound signature that eq would promote
storm osprey
ad700x headphones are god tier for fps gaming
glossy plinth
corsair rgb void elite wireless is top tier
glossy plinth
corsair > whatever the fuck that brand is
storm osprey
only gaming headphones i like are sennheiser, steel series, and hyper x
you like corsair a bit too much
storm osprey
corsair is mid tier everything they make ever
supple bane
corsairs headphones are fine, but you overpay for the sound quality you get imo
storm osprey
their mices are shit
glossy plinth
trueee
storm osprey
their keyboards are ok
supple bane
you are paying for the rgb and the microphone,
glossy plinth
i bought their $70 mouse and it started double clicking
storm osprey
everything about them is ok
wanton carbon
their mices are shit
some look good ?
opaque saddle
i remember i paid for $90 for a headset with 8 speakers inside
opaque saddle
the real 7.1
storm osprey
looks are at the bottom of the priority when it comes to mice
storm osprey
any corsair mice i knew of had problems within a year
glossy plinth
then quality
glossy plinth
but all yo stuff look like shit
storm osprey
because its powerful components
wanton carbon
nyphon , i thought that mouse was good ? never had it but it looks good
storm osprey
ew g502 rip off?
glossy plinth
rgb glaive pro is their best mouse
storm osprey
might as well as get the g502
storm osprey
imagine wanting a g502 clone but lesser quality
wanton carbon
the razer basailisk looks alright tbf
glossy plinth
facts
storm osprey
ill use a mouse that literally looks like poop as long as the shape works for me and the components are good
storm osprey
yes
storm osprey
ill be cracking headshots and ranking in top 5% while you got rgb everything and are gold
wanton carbon
i would always have to get an RGB mouse
glossy plinth
looks are top priority in gaming setups
wanton carbon
i look at my mouse all the time when im watching yt
glossy plinth
like imagine walking to your gaming setup and be like "aw shit, why does it all look like shit but works so well"
supple bane
i would rather have a 3090 and a threadripper and it look garbage, than having a 750ti and a pentium and it being a watercooled masterpeice
wanton carbon
what if ur equal ?
storm osprey
"aw shit, why does it all look like shit but works so well"
thats exactly how it is
storm osprey
well it doesnt look like shit, but its definitely standard looking
glossy plinth
wireless charging
wanton carbon
u seen the razer RGB toaster
glossy plinth
no
wanton carbon
includes razer synapse lolll
glossy plinth
ive seen the xbox fridge tho
wanton carbon
safe geyser
gentlemen
wanton carbon
safe geyser
thanks
chrome skiff
I agree with the looks thing. I can play on something from the trash can as long as it runs well and febreeze takes care of the smell. as long as it runs good
chrome skiff
although I've been enjoying the blue colors for rgb or my cosmetics side of my pc. I even painted my pc room blue.
storm osprey
razer credit card only in singapore iirc
chrome skiff
is it a credit card? I thought I saw it was a prepaid card you can refill. Didn't look into much tbh lol I don't think I would be able to use it infront of people lol
storm osprey
i keep saying credit card, yea its prepaid but it has credit card perks?
glossy plinth
soon all cars gonna have rgb
chrome skiff
@dull olive i saw your battlefield comment. If you dont play at 4k on bfv you cant use dlss. It has to be 4k to use it
dull olive
Ah. Well. That sucks. Guess there's no point in using Raytracing then either. Thank you!
chrome skiff
I mean it is a 3080 you can do it. But if playing multiplayer it probably isnt worth the frame loss
nvidia told us we can just "brute force" it
dull olive
Yeah, doesn't seem like it would be worth it. At least I can, hopefully, play at ultra settings without raytracing then
chrome skiff
You can play at ultra 1440p with that card easy. If not you have something else going on
dull olive
Dare I ask, also running smooth at 144hz? 🙂
chrome skiff
I get about 160 fps at 1440p ultra in my system
finite torrent
I still don't really get the obsession with raytracing, doesn't it just make shadows and reflections more realistic?
chrome skiff
Depending on the map it goes up and down but yes i average 160 fps
dull olive
Honestly, I don't mind too much either way. Just wanted to test the new card I got. 🙂
chrome skiff
@finite torrent whether people think its a scam or not we will at one point have no benefit of raising resolution anymore. is 16k worth it? They need different technology to make games look better instead of just increasing resolution. So with ray tracing it adds an incredible amount of real world light detail and can be used for more than visuals. You can ray trace audio and with a wall having a certain density you can get a value on the other side of the wall from the audio you heard. ray tracing is much bigger then lights
Watch dogs legion has a very nice ray tracing example on windows and glass and stuff, pretty game.
finite torrent
Could a game dev use raytracing to see how the game would look and then try to copy it into the game?
chrome skiff
Well with just the title ray tracing no, epic is working on ur4 updates for ray tracing along with unity engine. unreal 4 for the most part can overlay cutscenes from a game and roughly port it over to unreal and it will need to be optimized but its the closest thing i know off. Then they can add ray tracing to it
But ray tracing is between nvidia and a game developer and optimizations and even the type of ray tracing that would be used. There are a couple forms of it
coarse nimbus
Elaborate troll?
wanton carbon
guys . i finally found something worth buying , on scan found some RGB ram 2x8 3200mhz
mild siren
Hot
coarse nimbus
You mean base GTA v single player released again for next gen
mild siren
They will release gta o too
coarse nimbus
Imagine if they had story expansions too 
prime jasper
damn
mild siren
Well
prime jasper
i got whacked
coarse nimbus
Rockstar needs more money to invent bullshit for online
wanton carbon
anyone know any large mouse mats , i wanted to get a corsair mat but they are like 30 pound
chrome skiff
amazon basic :)
Ktrio Extended Gaming Mouse Pad with Stitched Edges, Large Mousepad with Premium-Textured Cloth, Non-Slip Rubber Base, Waterproof Keyboard Pad, Desk Mat for Gamer, Office & Home, 31.5 x 11.8 in, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0788LMLZL/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_i_hygOFb3AHN1K3
has stitched edged and cheap
wanton carbon
i wanna get a corsair one mainly as they look nice
like them , but i cant find one cheap enough , 40 pounds base price is alot for a mouse mat
storm osprey
arctic ❤️
wanton carbon
420mm